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penguinlady
10-01-2008, 05:52 PM
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joolz
10-01-2008, 05:57 PM
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:seeya:I just got here. Did anything important happend today? And is there something wrong with the board? It's taking forever to load and refresh for me. TIA
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10-01-2008, 05:57 PM
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logbump
10-01-2008, 05:58 PM
Poster on Legaledge says Casey due in court in am. True?
Ladyhawk
10-01-2008, 06:04 PM
Poster on Legaledge says Casey due in court in am. True?
Her arraignment for check fraud was supposed to be tomorrow but has been rescheduled for October 14. It is unlikely that she will appear that day....her presence is not required.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-anthony0108oct01,0,6659609.story
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 06:07 PM
:seeya:I just got here. Did anything important happend today? And is there something wrong with the board? It's taking forever to load and refresh for me. TIAYes, it's taking forever. I'm wondering if it was slowed down for some reason. It almost crashed on me yesterday.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 06:09 PM
Her arraignment for check fraud was supposed to be tomorrow but has been rescheduled for October 14. It is unlikely that she will appear that day....her presence is not required.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-anthony0108oct01,0,6659609.storyThank you. I'm expecting a lot of delays in this case. imo
Katprint
10-01-2008, 06:09 PM
Funny story: I told my husband about Cindy Anthony's statement that their family does not badger Casey about where Caylee is; instead, they just walk around speaking generally about how much they love and miss Caylee. I marveled at the ludicrousness of a hypothetical situation where one of our sons was missing when my husband got home from work but I didn't tell my husband where our son was and we went about our business for a month without telling anyone. My husband gave me an incredulous look and said, "If one of our children went missing, there would be NO OTHER TOPIC OF CONVERSATION!" Which pretty much sums up how most normal people feel about this whole mess.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
Yes, it's taking forever. I'm wondering if it was slowed down for some reason. It almost crashed on me yesterday.
I think it is the website...I was just posting on the "OJ" thread and it takes for ever for the texting to catch up with my typing?
happy2bme
10-01-2008, 06:17 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17600620/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17600620/detail.html)
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony is the first -- and so far only -- person to be called a suspect in her daughter Caylee’s disappearance, the Orange County Sheriff’s Office told WESH 2 News on Wednesday.
She is the only one who can lead investigators to the truth about what happened to Caylee, who has been missing for 79 days, an agency spokesman said.
Until now, investigators did not call Casey Anthony a suspect, usually calling her a “person of interest.”
velvetbrown
10-01-2008, 06:20 PM
watching CNN now, they're talking about Casey, and piecing together a case against her...
desmom
10-01-2008, 06:22 PM
Ahhh, good work. Like a fresh pad of paper.
candle link- hope it works- http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle
Blu- please fix the candle link, I messed it up I think.
Not Blu....try this one....
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle
ETA ~ If you can still edit your post, you need to add a space between "works-" and the addy.
day2day
10-01-2008, 06:23 PM
Her arraignment for check fraud was supposed to be tomorrow but has been rescheduled for October 14. It is unlikely that she will appear that day....her presence is not required.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-anthony0108oct01,0,6659609.story
Thank you for the link!! Thanks penguinlady for starting the new thread!
kRaZEEdayz
10-01-2008, 06:24 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/17589277/index.html
Ladyhawk
10-01-2008, 06:26 PM
What is the point of no return in this case or is there one? Is there a point that Baez would say that going through with a trial would have a worse outcome than trying for a plea? I'm thinking on the fraud charges moreso that the neglect.
MyrDawn
10-01-2008, 06:27 PM
Can't wait for NG's bombshell tonight "Just minutes before we went on the air Casey has been named as a suspect"
:lol:
You sure called that one!
desmom
10-01-2008, 06:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/bigjuicykungfu has a ton of news link videos about Casey.
WillowInFlight
10-01-2008, 06:29 PM
Can't wait for NG's bombshell tonight "Just minutes before we went on the air Casey has been named as a suspect"
:lol: I will choke on my wine if she actually says that.
MyrDawn
10-01-2008, 06:32 PM
If Casey is the only one that can lead them to the truth does that mean there is nothing more to investigate, why would TES be comming back?
She can lead them to the truth, but I doubt they believe she will and it would be a terrible shame if Caylee's body isn't found.
Lilly12
10-01-2008, 06:33 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/17589277/index.html
Too bad she did not get up and do the Casey walk, or is it strut. Wish I had that swing on my back porch. moo
trich
10-01-2008, 06:33 PM
Funny story: I told my husband about Cindy Anthony's statement that their family does not badger Casey about where Caylee is; instead, they just walk around speaking generally about how much they love and miss Caylee. I marveled at the ludicrousness of a hypothetical situation where one of our sons was missing when my husband got home from work but I didn't tell my husband where our son was and we went about our business for a month without telling anyone. My husband gave me an incredulous look and said, "If one of our children went missing, there would be NO OTHER TOPIC OF CONVERSATION!" Which pretty much sums up how most normal people feel about this whole mess.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
Again NORMAL being the key word.
No one in this family is normal....too bad they can't be charged for being so UN NORMAL.
5boxersmom
10-01-2008, 06:34 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17600620/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17600620/detail.html)
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony is the first -- and so far only -- person to be called a suspect in her daughter Caylee’s disappearance, the Orange County Sheriff’s Office told WESH 2 News on Wednesday.
She is the only one who can lead investigators to the truth about what happened to Caylee, who has been missing for 79 days, an agency spokesman said.
Until now, investigators did not call Casey Anthony a suspect, usually calling her a “person of interest.”
I like the sound of that. I can't wait to hear Casey Anthony, guilty of murder. :)
day2day
10-01-2008, 06:34 PM
If Casey is the only one that can lead them to the truth does that mean there is nothing more to investigate, why would TES be comming back?
I think Tim will come back in time - I think he wants Caylee to have a proper burial. And once Casey is charged and she KNOWS she is goin to prison-she may try to make a deal-telling them where Caylees body is in return.
just a guess. jmo
WingNIt
10-01-2008, 06:36 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17596969/detail.html
"On-Duty Deputies Will Watch Anthony Home"
MyrDawn
10-01-2008, 06:38 PM
I saw it mentioned somewhere, sorry no link...
Tim Miller, the director of TES, gave a press conference just before they left Florida and promised they'd be back. JMO
Just noticed on their website in the Caylee area it says "Our search still continues and TES will be back soon."
http://www.texasequusearch.org/
crymeariver2006
10-01-2008, 06:39 PM
What is the point of no return in this case or is there one? Is there a point that Baez would say that going through with a trial would have a worse outcome than trying for a plea? I'm thinking on the fraud charges moreso that the neglect.
I can't believe he hasn't already attempted to work out a deal on the fraud charges.
Ladyhawk
10-01-2008, 06:41 PM
I found it interesting in reading some other boards that investigators actually read these boards and create pseudo accounts on myspace and facebook to glean information. If we can stay on topic and offer valid opinions and not argue, we can actually contribute to the case!
You never know who is at the other end of the Nic or what their purpose for being on the board really is. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there weren't professional board posters whose services are available to either side of a case. jmo
WillowInFlight
10-01-2008, 06:46 PM
The worst part about that is they are pulling them out of other crime areas to baby-sit the protestors and the Anthony's! LE everywhere is already understaffed IMO.
I really wish the Anthonys could be charged with all this money they are causing the city to spend.
martha
10-01-2008, 06:53 PM
I to think the a;s need to be billed for all the cost that le is having to put out on this case. no one needs to be watching the a;s house. casey is not going anywhere she has no money. well unless people have given a lot of money to them. I have not heard how much money has been given to them. or how much is in the fund to find caylee. jmho:rose:
joolz
10-01-2008, 06:56 PM
You never know who is at the other end of the Nic or what their purpose for being on the board really is. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there weren't professional board posters whose services are available to either side of a case. jmo
Tha'ts a really interesting idea. Do you know if that actually happens? And if so, where do put in my application? :D
day2day
10-01-2008, 06:57 PM
I found it interesting in reading some other boards that investigators actually read these boards and create pseudo accounts on myspace and facebook to glean information. If we can stay on topic and offer valid opinions and not argue, we can actually contribute to the case!
Thanks for sending me to the new thread! And yes you are right -I very much believe LE reads these boards...jmo
WillowInFlight
10-01-2008, 06:58 PM
Can you say Geragross? Why should he plea deal, when he can make $$$$$$$$ with a trial and the publicity he can get?I thought defense att. are supposed to do what is the best for their client? Taking the DP off the table is in his babykiller best interest. I think (imo) murder charges will come before her child neglect, being a thief charges. JMO
Her and SQDRISP would make a great sick pair, to bad they will live in prison and miss out.
Geragross.:lol:
jammies
10-01-2008, 06:58 PM
FYI
ZFG on Nancy tonight.
day2day
10-01-2008, 07:01 PM
Tha'ts a really interesting idea. Do you know if that actually happens? And if so, where do put in my application? :D
I wonder if it pays well?! LOL!! I can see a defense attorney doing this! jmo
Kathlb
10-01-2008, 07:04 PM
Mike Galanos, Headline News is going to discuss the homicide possibility without a body, coming up. Sure looks like the State is getting ready with that witness list! BTW, is that list available anywhere yet?
I would LOVE to see the witness list. ;)
klock777
10-01-2008, 07:04 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/17589277/index.html
Waste of time downloading - wish I had as much time on my hands as those stupid people.
AustinsMama
10-01-2008, 07:06 PM
I just went on FB and Casey is apologizing to everyone on her friends list for being harassed as a result of supporting the effort to find Caylee.....Seriously??? This woman disgusts me to the core! She has some nerve when she is the ONE PERSON who is NOT supporting the efforts to find her own daughter. All she has done is LIE, LIE, LIE!!! It's all out there and yet she is surfing the computer putting pics up of Caylee on her FB, bashing NG, and apologizing to her FB friends? What about her daughter? CASEY - ARE YOU NOT SORRY YOU DID AWAY WITH YOUR DAUGHTER?? The audacity of this punk 22 year old worthless, poor excuse of a mother to even say!! Good Lord what is going on in this world. She makes me sooooo sick to my stomach. IMO had to vent I am sooooooooooo sickened by her little catch phrases on FB.
SHE NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND SPEND THE REST OF HER LIFE IN JAIL WHERE SHE BELONGS! :flamemad:
bluwaters
10-01-2008, 07:08 PM
Please light a Candle for Caylee
click any unlit candle to begin
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle
:rose:
msjoni
10-01-2008, 07:09 PM
Mike Galanos, Headline News is going to discuss the homicide possibility without a body, coming up. Sure looks like the State is getting ready with that witness list! BTW, is that list available anywhere yet?
I saw the show at 5.........35 people on the witness list are LE.....
mosey2
10-01-2008, 07:09 PM
I keep forgetting to mention, did ya'll notice the other day when Casey was either arriving or leaving a meeting with her home confinement officer (I think they were in a red truck) that her "walk" didn't have as much "bounce" as it has in the past? Maybe she is wearing down a little? :shrug:
I imagine living 24/7 with psychomama in a 1,600 sq.ft. house is worse than solitary confinement! :D
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Would someone please call NG and ask her to stay on topic????Would someone please call NG and ask her to get someone that knows to comment on FLA's double jeopardy law, and how the evidence in the neglect trial will affect the coming murder trial?
crymeariver2006
10-01-2008, 07:11 PM
I would LOVE to see the witness list. ;)
It may not be released to the public for fear of witness harrassment or intimidation.
And not by any of us. ;)
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 07:11 PM
It's true, I spoke to the lead Detectives in another case a few years ago and they do follow the boards, it's not illegal..Yes, they do follow them, but posting is another matter, imo. Do you know?
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 07:12 PM
It has in Cental Fla,tomorrow night I'm staying at the hotel that TES used as their headquarters when they were here. If I get a chance I'll run down south of the airport and let you know.That would be much appreciated. Thank you. :cool:
aubrey04
10-01-2008, 07:14 PM
Would someone please call NG and ask her to get someone that knows to comment on FLA's double jeopardy law, and how the evidence in the neglect trial will affect the coming murder trial?
Yes! We need that question answered. People call in and ask the dumbest questions. I might try and email her show on the cnn site, but I hardly doubt they have time to read even a fraction of the emails they get.. So I am sure it will be a waste of time...but I will give it a shot.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 07:15 PM
I to think the a;s need to be billed for all the cost that le is having to put out on this case. no one needs to be watching the a;s house. casey is not going anywhere she has no money. well unless people have given a lot of money to them. I have not heard how much money has been given to them. or how much is in the fund to find caylee. jmho:rose:I agree. The only reason problems arise is because the Anthonys become confrontational. imo
MyrDawn
10-01-2008, 07:16 PM
I wonder if it pays well?! LOL!! I can see a defense attorney doing this! jmo
For the Casey Anthony case, I heard it pays 23¢. :D
RockStarGirl
10-01-2008, 07:19 PM
Hi All,
Any news except that she is now a suspect and ZFG on NG tonight? We really need more. REALLY!!:seeya:
day2day
10-01-2008, 07:22 PM
It's true, I spoke to the lead Detectives in another case a few years ago and they do follow the boards, it's not illegal..
Thanks Mr. Lucky-oh I realize its not illegal..And i don't blame them for reading!!
Have I mentioned i think LE is doing a GREAT job in this case!! They truly are the ONLY ones fighting for Caylee.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 07:22 PM
Yes! We need that question answered. People call in and ask the dumbest questions. I might try and email her show on the cnn site, but I hardly doubt they have time to read even a fraction of the emails they get.. So I am sure it will be a waste of time...but I will give it a shot.Thank you, aubrey. :cool:
WillowInFlight
10-01-2008, 07:23 PM
I imagine living 24/7 with psychomama in a 1,600 sq.ft. house is worse than solitary confinement! :D
I doubt PrincessPantsOnFire ever comes out of her room.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 07:26 PM
That's the ONLY deal I think Prosecution would accept at this point with Casey being so UNcooperative.
Look at the Green River Killer. He got a deal to spare his life if he showed where the other bodies were etc to give families closure and proper burial etc.
If ti comes down to it. I think Casey would take a deal to save her life. She is that self absorbed. IMOI agree. Good logic. Naming her as a suspect should dampen MissPrincessPantsonfire's optimism that her future is looking good, too. imo
SavannahStar
10-01-2008, 07:27 PM
:lol: I will choke on my wine if she actually says that.
Hey I choke on my wine at least 5 times during her show every night anyway. :lol:
:seeya:
dixie77
10-01-2008, 07:27 PM
I just went on FB and Casey is apologizing to everyone on her friends list for being harassed as a result of supporting the effort to find Caylee.....Seriously??? This woman disgusts me to the core! She has some nerve when she is the ONE PERSON who is NOT supporting the efforts to find her own daughter. All she has done is LIE, LIE, LIE!!! It's all out there and yet she is surfing the computer putting pics up of Caylee on her FB, bashing NG, and apologizing to her FB friends? What about her daughter? CASEY - ARE YOU NOT SORRY YOU DID AWAY WITH YOUR DAUGHTER?? The audacity of this punk 22 year old worthless, poor excuse of a mother to even say!! Good Lord what is going on in this world. She makes me sooooo sick to my stomach. IMO had to vent I am sooooooooooo sickened by her little catch phrases on FB.
SHE NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND SPEND THE REST OF HER LIFE IN JAIL WHERE SHE BELONGS! :flamemad:
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I agree with u 100%. Can u give me the link to her FB, please? thanks in advance
nana6
10-01-2008, 07:28 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17600620/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17600620/detail.html)
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony is the first -- and so far only -- person to be called a suspect in her daughter Caylee’s disappearance, the Orange County Sheriff’s Office told WESH 2 News on Wednesday.
She is the only one who can lead investigators to the truth about what happened to Caylee, who has been missing for 79 days, an agency spokesman said.
Until now, investigators did not call Casey Anthony a suspect, usually calling her a “person of interest.”
Why does it say that Caylee has been missing 79 days? Am I missing something here?
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 07:28 PM
I doubt PrincessPantsOnFire ever comes out of her room.I agree. All those clutching hands reaching for her throat are undoubtedly waiting outside that door. :chicken:
imo
Rayosunshine
10-01-2008, 07:30 PM
I would LOVE to see the witness list. ;)
I can't imagine a witness list being released. I know I wouldn't want my name put out for all the world to see. I've heard of cases where witnesses couldn't be found or were found dead.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 07:30 PM
Why does it say that Caylee has been missing 79 days? Am I missing something here?Maybe they know something we don't, or maybe they're just counting from the day it was reported. imo
AustinsMama
10-01-2008, 07:31 PM
Didn't someone say the other day that wasn't her on there, it's someone impersonating her ?
No it's her....she has over 700 friends and the email is her actual email.
crymeariver2006
10-01-2008, 07:32 PM
What makes me so mad about that is that the reporter gave her the chance to voice her opinion and she just sat there like an idiot, just to get her 5 minutes of fame. What REALLY makes me madder though is that when I reached up to turn the volume off, I dumped a Diet Coke in my lap!!!
That's why she was called the "Casey Impersonator".
Get it?
:D
MyrDawn
10-01-2008, 07:32 PM
Hey I choke on my wine at least 5 times during her show every night anyway. :lol:
:seeya:
You guys too? Guess I'm not alone...I need to wear a bib when I watch her. :D
I wish they wouldn't tease us with the witness list and just release it already! Some sites say there are 85 names on the witness list and some say 82 names. I wonder who can't count.
dixie77
10-01-2008, 07:32 PM
Would someone please call NG and ask her to stay on topic????
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I would love to tell NG to forget about ZG......to be honest, i am sick and tired of hearing about her. JMO
desmom
10-01-2008, 07:32 PM
Would someone please call NG and ask her to stay on topic????
I would LOVE to see the witness list. ;)
A Who's Who of the witness list!
AustinsMama
10-01-2008, 07:33 PM
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I agree with u 100%. Can u give me the link to her FB, please? thanks in advance
I pm'd it to you.
nana6
10-01-2008, 07:34 PM
Maybe they know something we don't, or maybe they're just counting from the day it was reported. imo
As usual, I have to thank you Joan. You always have answers for us.:)
dixie77
10-01-2008, 07:35 PM
I pm'd it to you.
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Thanks, AustinsMama
jakee
10-01-2008, 07:35 PM
Guess it depends which date you want to use 6/8, 6/9, 6/15 or 6/16
I was confused by the 79 days also. On this board we have Caylee missing 107 days. I hate to do math. :)
nana6
10-01-2008, 07:35 PM
I pm'd it to you.
Mama, Would you mind pm ing me too? Thank you.
AustinsMama
10-01-2008, 07:36 PM
wow... how dumb can she be ?
I notice that she keeps all the well wishers on her board - as soon as someone says something negative she deletes them and informs the board why she deleted them.. Yesterday a "friend" messaged her and said she should stop trying to discredit NG and actually go out and try to find her daughter. Today that post is deleted and that person is no longer her friend on FB.
margaret kep
10-01-2008, 07:37 PM
I just went on FB and Casey is apologizing to everyone on her friends list for being harassed as a result of supporting the effort to find Caylee.....Seriously??? This woman disgusts me to the core! She has some nerve when she is the ONE PERSON who is NOT supporting the efforts to find her own daughter. All she has done is LIE, LIE, LIE!!! It's all out there and yet she is surfing the computer putting pics up of Caylee on her FB, bashing NG, and apologizing to her FB friends? What about her daughter? CASEY - ARE YOU NOT SORRY YOU DID AWAY WITH YOUR DAUGHTER?? The audacity of this punk 22 year old worthless, poor excuse of a mother to even say!! Good Lord what is going on in this world. She makes me sooooo sick to my stomach. IMO had to vent I am sooooooooooo sickened by her little catch phrases on FB.
SHE NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND SPEND THE REST OF HER LIFE IN JAIL WHERE SHE BELONGS! :flamemad:
And Cindy/George should spend the rest of their free time toting a sign for other missing children:flamemad:
barskin&co.
10-01-2008, 07:37 PM
Why does it say that Caylee has been missing 79 days? Am I missing something here?
I guess they are counting the time from when she was reported missing.
Heyes
10-01-2008, 07:38 PM
Skipping through the room, singing loudly in my best neener, neener voice.....
Casey is a suspect! > > > Casey is a suspect! > > > Casey is a suspect! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Gotta go, be back to catch up.
:seeya:
crymeariver2006
10-01-2008, 07:39 PM
I notice that she keeps all the well wishers on her board - as soon as someone says something negative she deletes them and informs the board why she deleted them.. Yesterday a "friend" messaged her and said she should stop trying to discredit NG and actually go out and try to find her daughter. Today that post is deleted and that person is no longer her friend on FB.
I'm sure she and Baez are tracing IP's too. One of the "turncoats" will probably be named as a suspect pretty soon.
jammies
10-01-2008, 07:40 PM
Hi All,
Any news except that she is now a suspect and ZFG on NG tonight? We really need more. REALLY!!:seeya:
Wish NG would get someone interesting on this case. ZFG just doesn't cut it for me. (I miss Cindy calling in. lol)
nana6
10-01-2008, 07:44 PM
I believe it is going to be a long nite on this board. It is moving very slowly. Have you all noticed this too? I wonder if CW has noticed and can maybe do something about it? Oh well. Let's carry on for little angel Caylee:rose:
day2day
10-01-2008, 07:45 PM
I can't imagine a witness list being released. I know I wouldn't want my name put out for all the world to see. I've heard of cases where witnesses couldn't be found or were found dead.
Have you ever heard of a witness list being revealed before a person has even been charged?!:shrug:
ruth66
10-01-2008, 07:46 PM
I have a question that I have been wanting to ask for quite some time. We all know that Casey is sitting in Baez' office for several hours daily, my assumption is that she is doing something on the computer (don't know what). I also have a hunch she is on the message boards (maybe not this one but some MB) lurking and posting, even throwing out some of her tall tales. My question is, can LE subpeona the computers in Baez' office in order to find out what she has been up to? Let's say they check out an IP address and trace it back to his office, can they do anything then?
If anyone knows I would appreciate it....
barskin&co.
10-01-2008, 07:46 PM
I was confused by the 79 days also. On this board we have Caylee missing 107 days. I hate to do math. :)
If you count June 16 as the last time Caylee was seen alive (and, yes, I know, that date is disputed), then on June 17 she would have been missing for one day. Now, on October 1, she has been missing 107 days. If you want to dispute the June 16 date, remember, Caylee was seen alive during the day and into early evening June 15, so the difference is a matter of hours - or two days, if you use Cindy's method of calculating time.
steffaroob4
10-01-2008, 07:49 PM
I hate numbers, can someone please tell me, on the cell phone records for casey, is the duration in minutes or seconds???:shrug:
SavannahStar
10-01-2008, 07:49 PM
Any time I have clicked on a facebook link, I get a page that says you need to sign in, so I guess you have to have a facebook profile to be able to see hers. (or be on her friends list). I have myspace but not facebook. Mike Brooks stated on HN tonight that LE is getting an air tight case ready and there is no hurry to file the charges. They want to be SURE they have it all. But then again, look at the OJ case. I don't mean to get OT here but Marcia Clarke thought it was a slam dunk case and SHE rejected some very good evidence that should have been presented. So let's put our faith in OCSO and give them the time to get the air tight evidence that they need w/o a body. :patriot:
What show was Marcia Clarke on? Wow....talk about a blast from the past. She's a strange one. :D
jakee
10-01-2008, 07:54 PM
If you count June 16 as the last time Caylee was seen alive (and, yes, I know, that date is disputed), then on June 17 she would have been missing for one day. Now, on October 1, she has been missing 107 days. If you want to dispute the June 16 date, remember, Caylee was seen alive during the day and into early evening June 15, so the difference is a matter of hours - or two days, if you use Cindy's method of calculating time.
Thanks. I just assumed everyone was going by the June 16 day. Well, because of Father's day. I guess I should never assume! :)
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 07:56 PM
As usual, I have to thank you Joan. You always have answers for us.:)Thank you, nana. I enjoy your posts very much.
I am happy that they have finally put the "suspect" label on MissPrincessPantsonFire. imo
ruth66
10-01-2008, 07:58 PM
I wondered the same thing, but I think KC is carrying her laptop with her. I don't think JB would be stupid enough to let her use any of HIS computers! hammer
Well I thought that too (Baez not being that stupid) but he has that deer in the headlights look sometimes with her, so I guess I wouldn't put it past him (sorry to be accusatory). Casey just seems to be such a piece of work that I am not sure anyone could reign her in. :shrug:
day2day
10-01-2008, 07:59 PM
These are only the witnesses in the neglect charge...
Oh lord...that is a LOT of witnesses for a neglect charge!
It looks like WESH tried to post the list-it isn't working for me-i am gonna email them!
http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html?news/17601789/detail.html
SavannahStar
10-01-2008, 08:00 PM
I decided to register so I could look at her page. After I registered with an email address and a password, I was sent a link by email from Facebook saying go here (a url) and confirm you have given a valid email address, you know like you do to register on here.
I did that, and then when I tried to log in to Facebook, it kept telling me my password was incorrect. I knew it wasn't unless I'd made a typo when I registered, so I started looking for a link to have them send me my password.
Instead of finding something like that, I found a sentence that that said I needed to enter the password to my email address, not the password for my Facebook account ? Huh ? I don't think so.
:confused: Now THAT'S weird. I've been thinking of joining myself.....now that gives me pause. Maybe I'll try it though later.
Could you possibly have a virus in your computer? I know one of my computers, whenever I'd go online to pay a bill, would ask for my PIN number on my debit card. :eek: THAT was a virus.
SavannahStar
10-01-2008, 08:01 PM
No, I didn't say she (Marcia) was on a show. I was noting the fact that OSCO is taking their time to have solid evidence for an air tight case against Casey. In the OJ trial Marcia THOUGHT there was enough and didn't bring some other smaller, less evident things in. I read that in several books.
OH oh oh oh, okay.....I misread your post, sorry! :)
day2day
10-01-2008, 08:03 PM
Hi,
I'm new but I'm working on an Excel spreadsheet that has Casey's calls during pertinent times. Does anyone have the phone numbers of the players so I can put the names of people she is calling and texting. I have TonE's already. TIA
I'm searching for them now! Thanks so much Keys-we appreciate you!!
:seeya:
rosejustrose
10-01-2008, 08:04 PM
I wondered the same thing, but I think KC is carrying her laptop with her. I don't think JB would be stupid enough to let her use any of HIS computers! hammer
Yes, but if she uses a ISP from his office the IP address will be tied to his account, not hers. Maybe they just don't realize the hardware isn't the key to the IP address, it's the ISP. JMO.
steffaroob4
10-01-2008, 08:05 PM
I hate numbers, can someone please tell me, on the cell phone records for casey, is the duration in minutes or seconds???:shrug:
minutes or seconds???
anyonw know, I am assuming seconds, am I wrong?
day2day
10-01-2008, 08:06 PM
I hate numbers, can someone please tell me, on the cell phone records for casey, is the duration in minutes or seconds???:shrug:
IIRC-seconds!
Cury-us Coyote
10-01-2008, 08:06 PM
Why does it say that Caylee has been missing 79 days? Am I missing something here?
Caylee reported missing via 911 July 15th
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=7&d1=15&y1=2008&m2=10&d2=1&y2=2008
rosejustrose
10-01-2008, 08:06 PM
:confused: Now THAT'S weird. I've been thinking of joining myself.....now that gives me pause. Maybe I'll try it though later.
Could you possibly have a virus in your computer? I know one of my computers, whenever I'd go online to pay a bill, would ask for my PIN number on my debit card. :eek: THAT was a virus.
I tried to register Monday. I'm still waiting for the confirmation email to let me in:shrug:
Tiger
10-01-2008, 08:06 PM
:confused: Now THAT'S weird. I've been thinking of joining myself.....now that gives me pause. Maybe I'll try it though later.
Could you possibly have a virus in your computer? I know one of my computers, whenever I'd go online to pay a bill, would ask for my PIN number on my debit card. :eek: THAT was a virus.
I know some of those sites ask for your e-mail password because they then e-mail all your contacts in a mass e-mail telling them that you are on that site and to come join them and register. It is just to get more people to register. I am not for sure if facebook is like that.....I have a myspace myself and I have had it for 3 years and when I first registered it asked me to do the same thing.
~jomomma~
10-01-2008, 08:08 PM
Hi,
I'm new but I'm working on an Excel spreadsheet that has Casey's calls during pertinent times. Does anyone have the phone numbers of the players so I can put the names of people she is calling and texting. I have TonE's already. TIA
well, hey now! i'd be interested in seeing that when you're done! :D
i just simply have not had any time to try and put 2 and 2 together with all the docs....it's very frustrating...LOL
now, tonight, i'm getting ready to head out of town until sunday, probly won't be back online until monday and i am bumming.....i'm going to miss this place :(
i hope nothing major happens in this case until i get back here. i'll probably be missing NG also and i know i'll be too tired to stay up to watch the late late one. *sigh*
~jomomma~
10-01-2008, 08:09 PM
minutes or seconds???
anyonw know, I am assuming seconds, am I wrong?
i don't know steff...i haven't been able to check it out
rosejustrose
10-01-2008, 08:11 PM
i don't know steff...i haven't been able to check it out
I thought it was minutes. My provider charges a full minute even if I hang up when voice mail kicks in. JMO.
beckyj
10-01-2008, 08:11 PM
Yes! We need that question answered. People call in and ask the dumbest questions. I might try and email her show on the cnn site, but I hardly doubt they have time to read even a fraction of the emails they get.. So I am sure it will be a waste of time...but I will give it a shot.
It drives me crazy that they don't screen their questions better than that. Some of the questions are obviously from people who haven't been following the case, otherwise, they would have heard the answer 100 times. :shrug:
steffaroob4
10-01-2008, 08:12 PM
IIRC-seconds!
Thanks, I am driving myself carazy againhammer
trich
10-01-2008, 08:14 PM
I agree. Good logic. Naming her as a suspect should dampen MissPrincessPantsonfire's optimism that her future is looking good, too. imo
I don't think that will even phase Casey...She is so full of it I don't think she believes that LE will be able to prove her guilty of murder.
I think she is living in her own little fantasy world, which does not include any kind of guilt or sorrow or regret.
SavannahStar
10-01-2008, 08:15 PM
It drives me crazy that they don't screen their questions better than that. Some of the questions are obviously from people who haven't been following the case, otherwise, they would have heard the answer 100 times. :shrug:
I totally agree. Some of the questions are BEYOND dumb. "Do you think Casey might have killed Caylee to spite her mother?" :rolleyes: And then ALWAYS, Nancy says "That's a good question!!! What do you think,........so-and-so (turns to one of the attorneys or psycs). Sheesh, no HARD questions with hard answers.
steffaroob4
10-01-2008, 08:17 PM
June 16th
3:04pm- GA calls Casey 26 seconds 28.502844, -81.286333
3:35pm- Casey to Tony L, 22 seconds, 28.502844, -81.286333
4:10pm- Casey to Lexus of Orlando 34 seconds, 28.502844, -81.286333
4:11:25pm Casey to CA at work, 0 seconds, no tower evidence, just blank
4:11:49pm Casey to CA at work, 3 seconds, 28.4547222 -81.2636111
4:13pm - Cindy Anthony's Cell 2 seconds 28.502844, -81.286333
4:14pm- Casey to Lexus of Orlando 98 seconds, 28.502844, -81.286333
4:18pm- TEXT Casey to Tony L, 0 seconds, 28.5444,-81.2767472 looks like she is on the move from the house now, north
4:19:18pm TEXT Tony L to Casey, 0 seconds, 28.5444,-81.2767472
4:19:47pm Casey to Tony L, 58 seconds,28.5444,-81.2767472
4:21pm - Casey to Jesse Grund 75 seconds,28.5444,-81.2767472
4:25pm - Casey to CA cell 3 seconds, 28.5444,-81.2767472 moving further north
4:53pm incoming text 28.5444,-81.2767472
5:57pm incoming text 28.6039167,-81.2876111 tower is furth north
6:32pm Casey to CA cell, 3 seconds, 28.6039167,-81.2876111
6:32pm - Casey to The Anthony Home, 17 seconds, 28.5993583, -81.30325
6:33pm - Voicemail 28.5993583, -81.30325
6:34pm incoming texts 28.6039167,-81.2876111
7:06pm - Casey to The Anthony Home, 83 seconds, 28.6039167,-81.2876111
7:21pm - Casey to Amy H., 42 seconds 28.5993583, -81.30325
8:03pm - Voicemail,6 seconds, odd?? no tower information
8:03pm Mark H. to Casey, 6 seconds, odd again, no tower information
9:04pm- incoming text message, 28.5653389,-81.2958361
10:45pm - Text from Casey to Amy H., 28.5653389,-81.2958361
11:17pm -Text from Amy H.to Casey, 0, 28.5653389,-81.2958361
NOTHING for a long time for her
June 17th
10:52am -incoming text message, 28.5653389,-81.2958361
10:59am - checking voice mail, 37 seconds 28.5653389,-81.2958361
map (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=4937+Hopespring+Dr+Orlando,+FL+32829&daddr=%2B28%C2%B0+32'+39.84%22,+-81%C2%B0+16'+36.29%22+(28.544400,+-81.276747)+to:28.5653389,-81.2958361+to:28.6039167,-81.2876111+to:28.5993583,+-81.30325&hl=en&geocode=%3BFZCNswEdtdAn-w%3BFVvfswEdJIYn-w%3BFQ12tAEdRaYn-w%3BFT5ktAEdLmkn-w&mra=ls&sll=28.563115,-81.286469&sspn=0.141119,0.219727&ie=UTF8&ll=28.548338,-81.281662&spn=0.141139,0.219727&z=12)
day2day
10-01-2008, 08:17 PM
I have the witness list is it ok to post it? :shrug:
aubrey04
10-01-2008, 08:18 PM
Hi,
I'm new but I'm working on an Excel spreadsheet that has Casey's calls during pertinent times. Does anyone have the phone numbers of the players so I can put the names of people she is calling and texting. I have TonE's already. TIA
Welcome..
I sent you a private message with some of the numbers.. I didn't want to post them on here - even though they have already been published for all to see.
:seeya:
Cury-us Coyote
10-01-2008, 08:21 PM
Thanks, I am driving myself carazy againhammer
http://www.unitconversion.org/angle/seconds-to-minutes-conversion.html
MyrDawn
10-01-2008, 08:22 PM
I have the witness list is it ok to post it? :shrug:
I don't see why not. It was released to the public.
YES YES YES YES YES :D
aubrey04
10-01-2008, 08:23 PM
It drives me crazy that they don't screen their questions better than that. Some of the questions are obviously from people who haven't been following the case, otherwise, they would have heard the answer 100 times. :shrug:
Yeah, I agree with you. It's pretty pitiful. In fact, I don't think the calls do anything for the show at all besides derail it. If they aren't going to filter them better then I would rather them do away the calls completely.
Anyway I sent an email to Nancy and asked her (well whoever reads the emails LOL) to please "unleash the lawyers" to answer whether or not the evidence in Casey's child neglect trial can be used in a murder trial later on.
Personally I think it CAN be used but I dunno? :shrug:
desmom
10-01-2008, 08:23 PM
A great map of points of interest I ran across while googling....
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112207365672542480712.000455b4884de4fdc7516
rosejustrose
10-01-2008, 08:23 PM
<snipped>
Prison will reign her in. I think she will try and use her suductress sleazy "wiles" and will get rejected FAST!!!!!!!!!!
If Casey didn't want to have a child, and hid her pregnancy, why did'nt she have an abortion? I don't want to start a pro/ anti debate on abortion. But why even tell anyone she was pregnant/ I think I know the answer. And why if she wanted to give Caylee up for adoption would she allow her loser mom to overide her descision? This may have been dicussed I miss alot on here.JMO
IMO, George answered those questions best in his LE interview. He said he lives with a strong willed woman and his daughter has the same personality. It must have been something like - head, meet brickwall. JMO.
rosejustrose
10-01-2008, 08:26 PM
I have the witness list is it ok to post it? :shrug:
Wouldn't it be OK to post it as a link on the LINKS ONLY thread? :shrug:
day2day
10-01-2008, 08:28 PM
I don't see why not. It was released to the public.
YES YES YES YES YES :D
Sgt. John Allen, Orange County Sheriff’s Office
Karen Angel, Dora Nursing and Rehabilitation Center,
Mount Dora, where Casey Anthony’s grandfather lived.
Cynthia Anthony, Casey Anthony’s mother, Caylee Anthony’s grandmother
George Anthony, Casey Anthony’s father, Caylee Anthony’s grandfather.
Lee Anthony, Casey Anthony’s brother.
Deputy Charity R. Beasley, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Gerardo Bloise, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Rosanna Bonilla
Simon Burch, works at wrecker company that towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Brian Burner, neighbor of Cindy and George Anthony who loaned shovel to Casey Anthony.
Deputy Sandra G. Cawn, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Ann Marie Chase
Kristina Chester, friend of Casey Anthony.
David D. Clarke, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Danny Colamarino, works at tattoo parlor that Casey Anthony visited.
Dee Crawford, Event Imaging Solutions Group.
Matthew Crisp
Kiomarie Cruz
Jonathan Daly, Works at tattoo parlor that Casey Antony visited.
Kelly Deguzman, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Tanya DePalmo, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Annie Dowling
Deputy Ryan Eberlin, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Eric Edwards, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Rendon Fletcher, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Jason Forgey, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Thomas Galaida, Tom’s Auto Repair.
Harry Garcia, Sawgrass Apartments, where Casey Anthony said Caylee’s nanny lived.
Rich Garrad, Carlson Restaurants, Texas.
Zenaida Gonzalez, woman whose name Casey Anthony used as Caylee’s nanny.
Jessie Grund, Casey Anthony’s ex-boyfriend.
Mark Hawkins, friend of Casey Anthony.
Deputy Susan Hempfield, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Jeffrey Hopkins II, identified in police report as former high school classmate of Casey Anthony who ran into her in late June.
Jeffrey and Melissa Hopkins, Jeffrey II’s parents.
Reginald Hosey, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Roy House
Amy Huizenga, friend of Casey Anthony.
Sgt. Matthew Irwin, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Michael Kispert, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Maria Kissh
Anthony Lazzaro, recently Casey Anthony’s boyfriend.
Ricardo Lee, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Anne Lennington, from nursing home where Casey Anthony’s father was.
Nicole Lett, from wrecker company that towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Dannielle Lucey-Austin
Amanda Macklin, Sawgrass Apartments, where Casey Anthony said Caylee’s nanny lived.
Tom Manderville, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Peter Marino, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Awilda McBryde, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Joy McCabe, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
William McCoy, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Samara Melich, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Yuri Melich, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Officer William Moore, Orlando Police Department.
Ricardo Morales, dated Casey Anthony.
Custodian of 911 Calls, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Custodian of Records of Johnson’s Wrecker Service, which towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Custodian of Records of AT&T Wireless.
Ryan Pasley
Shirley Plesea
Melissa Remy, FDLE
Gary Ridgeway, Johnson’s Wrecker, which towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Pedro Rivera, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Kari Roderick, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Dante Salah
Deputy Michael Salamat, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Katherine Sanchez, Amscot
Nicole Schieber, Johnson’s Wrecker, which towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Deputy Michael Seagraves, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Renee Simpson, Valencia Community College.
Dianne Tighe, Colorvision
Dave Turner, Sawgrass Apartments, where Casey Anthony said Caylee’s nanny lived.
Leonard Turtora, where Casey Anthony said she worked.
Michael Vincent, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Appling Wells, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Jerold White, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Lance White
Bobby Lee Williams
Deputy Ryan Williams, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17601789/detail.html
steffaroob4
10-01-2008, 08:28 PM
http://www.unitconversion.org/angle/seconds-to-minutes-conversion.html
Thank you so much:D
north-eh
10-01-2008, 08:28 PM
I decided to register so I could look at her page. After I registered with an email address and a password, I was sent a link by email from Facebook saying go here (a url) and confirm you have given a valid email address, you know like you do to register on here.
I did that, and then when I tried to log in to Facebook, it kept telling me my password was incorrect. I knew it wasn't unless I'd made a typo when I registered, so I started looking for a link to have them send me my password.
Instead of finding something like that, I found a sentence that that said I needed to enter the password to my email address, not the password for my Facebook account ? Huh ? I don't think so.
Hey everyone, I have some info concerning Facebook if it helps.
I have been a member there for sometime myself, and never had any problems logging in or have never received mass emails of any kind. Once you have joined and you wish to have FB friends, they may ask you how you know this person or perhaps a few standard questions for your own security, but so far I have maintained my profile quite well there. I too have put in a request to Casey to add her as a friend, but I received word thru another friend, that she was not accepting anymore requests. Just my luck, figured as much! Now, if you do a search for anyone that is not on your friend list and they have their security settings on high, all you might see is their name and sometimes access to their friends, BUT you will NOT have access to their profile page. You would have to send a request and they would have to accept it in order to gain access to it.
Hopes this helps. BTW I have been following right along with you all each and every day and must say I admire all the hard work you put into this. Kudos to all of you.:beer:
N
rosejustrose
10-01-2008, 08:30 PM
Oh my! Look at the time! I have got to get some things done before NG comes on because after that I have my "Xanni" and am soon off to LaLa Land! (I get up very early). Keep on talking, guys, give LE something to think about! Where can Caylee be? I still tend to lean towards the swamps but that darned back yard keeps calling me back. In KC's words "gut feeling Caylee is close", "Caylee would be home for her birthday". Sure makes me think she is still in that back yard, or at least maybe a small part of her is back there. IMO Caylee's body was in that playhouse (or under it or near it). She was also in the trunk. Was she taken somewhere, burned, and the remains brought back and buried in the yard? An awful thought, I know, but I have seen it being tossed around. G'Night all, keep on puttin' it out there! :seeya:
See ya, MM:seeya: Watch that Xanni, we don't want you to wind up missing, too.
Cury-us Coyote
10-01-2008, 08:32 PM
Oh lord...that is a LOT of witnesses for a neglect charge!
It looks like WESH tried to post the list-it isn't working for me-i am gonna email them!
http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html?news/17601789/detail.html
Witness List In Casey Anthony Case
http://www.wesh.com/news/17601789/detail.html
ruth66
10-01-2008, 08:33 PM
IMO, George answered those questions best in his LE interview. He said he lives with a strong willed woman and his daughter has the same personality. It must have been something like - head, meet brickwall. JMO.
Yes, I listened to GA and CA interviews again today (for the upteenth time) and it occurs to me that GA is simply a body in that home. In his interview he says something about going to the bank to sign the stimulus check to put in CA account because his name isn't on that account. In CA interview she says something about GA not living in the home at the time of the rift with Jesse and therefore had no right to put his two cents worth in (my wording). GA also says that one of the reasons for the seperation was because of this daughters pregancy and arrival of his granddaughter. I take that as being the overbearing way that CA was dealing with the situation...
If I was GA I would pack my bags, call it even and run to the hills...;)
rosejustrose
10-01-2008, 08:33 PM
Sgt. John Allen, Orange County Sheriff’s Office
Karen Angel, Dora Nursing and Rehabilitation Center,
Mount Dora, where Casey Anthony’s grandfather lived.
Cynthia Anthony, Casey Anthony’s mother, Caylee Anthony’s grandmother
George Anthony, Casey Anthony’s father, Caylee Anthony’s grandfather.
Lee Anthony, Casey Anthony’s brother.
Deputy Charity R. Beasley, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Gerardo Bloise, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Rosanna Bonilla
Simon Burch, works at wrecker company that towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Brian Burner, neighbor of Cindy and George Anthony who loaned shovel to Casey Anthony.
Deputy Sandra G. Cawn, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Ann Marie Chase
Kristina Chester, friend of Casey Anthony.
David D. Clarke, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Danny Colamarino, works at tattoo parlor that Casey Anthony visited.
Dee Crawford, Event Imaging Solutions Group.
Matthew Crisp
Kiomarie Cruz
Jonathan Daly, Works at tattoo parlor that Casey Antony visited.
Kelly Deguzman, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Tanya DePalmo, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Annie Dowling
Deputy Ryan Eberlin, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Eric Edwards, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Rendon Fletcher, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Jason Forgey, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Thomas Galaida, Tom’s Auto Repair.
Harry Garcia, Sawgrass Apartments, where Casey Anthony said Caylee’s nanny lived.
Rich Garrad, Carlson Restaurants, Texas.
Zenaida Gonzalez, woman whose name Casey Anthony used as Caylee’s nanny.
Jessie Grund, Casey Anthony’s ex-boyfriend.
Mark Hawkins, friend of Casey Anthony.
Deputy Susan Hempfield, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Jeffrey Hopkins II, identified in police report as former high school classmate of Casey Anthony who ran into her in late June.
Jeffrey and Melissa Hopkins, Jeffrey II’s parents.
Reginald Hosey, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Roy House
Amy Huizenga, friend of Casey Anthony.
Sgt. Matthew Irwin, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Michael Kispert, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Maria Kissh
Anthony Lazzaro, recently Casey Anthony’s boyfriend.
Ricardo Lee, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Anne Lennington, from nursing home where Casey Anthony’s father was.
Nicole Lett, from wrecker company that towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Dannielle Lucey-Austin
Amanda Macklin, Sawgrass Apartments, where Casey Anthony said Caylee’s nanny lived.
Tom Manderville, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Peter Marino, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Awilda McBryde, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Joy McCabe, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
William McCoy, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Samara Melich, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Yuri Melich, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Officer William Moore, Orlando Police Department.
Ricardo Morales, dated Casey Anthony.
Custodian of 911 Calls, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Custodian of Records of Johnson’s Wrecker Service, which towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Custodian of Records of AT&T Wireless.
Ryan Pasley
Shirley Plesea
Melissa Remy, FDLE
Gary Ridgeway, Johnson’s Wrecker, which towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Pedro Rivera, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Kari Roderick, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Dante Salah
Deputy Michael Salamat, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Katherine Sanchez, Amscot
Nicole Schieber, Johnson’s Wrecker, which towed Casey Anthony’s car.
Deputy Michael Seagraves, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Renee Simpson, Valencia Community College.
Dianne Tighe, Colorvision
Dave Turner, Sawgrass Apartments, where Casey Anthony said Caylee’s nanny lived.
Leonard Turtora, where Casey Anthony said she worked.
Michael Vincent, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Appling Wells, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Deputy Jerold White, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Lance White
Bobby Lee Williams
Deputy Ryan Williams, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17601789/detail.html
Long list. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see Casey's grandmother, Cindy's mother on the list. I guess this means they didn't press charges against PPOF for stealing from her ailing granddad. Just sick, IMO. Hey, where's Yuri on this list, did I miss him too? JMO.
MyrDawn
10-01-2008, 08:34 PM
Snipped for length...
Sgt. John Allen, Orange County Sheriff’s Office
Karen Angel, Dora Nursing and Rehabilitation Center,
Mount Dora, where Casey Anthony’s grandfather lived.
Cynthia Anthony, Casey Anthony’s mother, Caylee Anthony’s grandmother
George Anthony, Casey Anthony’s father, Caylee Anthony’s grandfather.
Lee Anthony, Casey Anthony’s brother.
Deputy Charity R. Beasley, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Thanks! You're a doll!:beer:
day2day
10-01-2008, 08:35 PM
Long list. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see Casey's grandmother, Cindy's mother on the list. I guess this means they didn't press charges against PPOF for stealing from her ailing granddad. Just sick, IMO. Hey, where's Yuri on this list, did I miss him too? JMO.
Yuri Melich, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
He is there!! I don't see Grandma though :(. And I agree -I think Casey should be charged with that-and Cindy for covering it up.jmo of course
Kathlb
10-01-2008, 08:35 PM
Sgt. John Allen, Orange County Sheriff’s Office
*snip*
Thank you for the witness list!! :seeya:
jammies
10-01-2008, 08:36 PM
Long list. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see Casey's grandmother, Cindy's mother on the list. I guess this means they didn't press charges against PPOF for stealing from her ailing granddad. Just sick, IMO. Hey, where's Yuri on this list, did I miss him too? JMO.
Both are there. Check it again.
day2day
10-01-2008, 08:36 PM
Thanks! You're a doll!:beer:
YVW!! Glad i could help!! (this board is CRAZY tonight) these ads are terrible..:(
Pebbles
10-01-2008, 08:37 PM
I keep forgetting to mention, did ya'll notice the other day when Casey was either arriving or leaving a meeting with her home confinement officer (I think they were in a red truck) that her "walk" didn't have as much "bounce" as it has in the past? Maybe she is wearing down a little? :shrug:
That's because she can't walk and chew gum at the same time!:D
jammies
10-01-2008, 08:37 PM
Yuri Melich, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
He is there!! I don't see Grandma though :(. And I agree -I think Casey should be charged with that-and Cindy for covering it up.jmo of course
Shirley Plesea.
day2day
10-01-2008, 08:38 PM
*snip*
Thank you for the witness list!! :seeya:
YVW-this is a LONG list...lol!!
margaret kep
10-01-2008, 08:39 PM
Oh lord...that is a LOT of witnesses for a neglect charge!
It looks like WESH tried to post the list-it isn't working for me-i am gonna email them!
http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html?news/17601789/detail.html
Hi, it worked for me. Printed 4 pages. WhenI went into site....at left where it says search I asked for 'witness list' - good luck:seeya:
day2day
10-01-2008, 08:39 PM
Shirley Plesea.
Thanks! I missed it!
lonetraveler
10-01-2008, 08:40 PM
Funny story: I told my husband about Cindy Anthony's statement that their family does not badger Casey about where Caylee is; instead, they just walk around speaking generally about how much they love and miss Caylee. I marveled at the ludicrousness of a hypothetical situation where one of our sons was missing when my husband got home from work but I didn't tell my husband where our son was and we went about our business for a month without telling anyone. My husband gave me an incredulous look and said, "If one of our children went missing, there would be NO OTHER TOPIC OF CONVERSATION!" Which pretty much sums up how most normal people feel about this whole mess.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
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Yes, the Anthonys seem to be greiving Caylee's death in their own little way, eager to go on about their business as if she never existed. I do hope LE pulls the rug right out from under them and they are forced to wakeup to reality. Caylee's life should mean much more to them. This is the most cold hearted family I have ever see or heard about. Her death should be vindicated.:flamemad:
margaret kep
10-01-2008, 08:42 PM
Both are there. Check it again.
GGM - Shirley Plesea is listed.:seeya:
playnice
10-01-2008, 08:44 PM
Is anyone having trouble scrolling? I had trouble at work and home.
wow. the witness list. Casey will get to see all her friends again.
AustinsMama
10-01-2008, 08:45 PM
Hey everyone, I have some info concerning Facebook if it helps.
I have been a member there for sometime myself, and never had any problems logging in or have never received mass emails of any kind. Once you have joined and you wish to have FB friends, they may ask you how you know this person or perhaps a few standard questions for your own security, but so far I have maintained my profile quite well there. I too have put in a request to Casey to add her as a friend, but I received word thru another friend, that she was not accepting anymore requests. Just my luck, figured as much! Now, if you do a search for anyone that is not on your friend list and they have their security settings on high, all you might see is their name and sometimes access to their friends, BUT you will NOT have access to their profile page. You would have to send a request and they would have to accept it in order to gain access to it.
Hopes this helps. BTW I have been following right along with you all each and every day and must say I admire all the hard work you put into this. Kudos to all of you.:beer:
N
Hey North- i just messaged her and it was that easy. A couple of days later she accepted. Hmmm could it be different for others?
rosejustrose
10-01-2008, 08:46 PM
Yes, I listened to GA and CA interviews again today (for the upteenth time) and it occurs to me that GA is simply a body in that home. In his interview he says something about going to the bank to sign the stimulus check to put in CA account because his name isn't on that account. In CA interview she says something about GA not living in the home at the time of the rift with Jesse and therefore had no right to put his two cents worth in (my wording). GA also says that one of the reasons for the seperation was because of this daughters pregancy and arrival of his granddaughter. I take that as being the overbearing way that CA was dealing with the situation...
If I was GA I would pack my bags, call it even and run to the hills...;)
There were a lot of things in George's interview I wished they closed the loop on while they had him there. For instance, Casey in Cindy's SUV ~ when and where was it returned? And why when he talks about playing with Caylee in the yard does he not mention the pool only the playhouse? Also, why does he refer to her so often as "the little girl". As to what Caylee was wearing he does specifically mention white tennis shoes and did say the backpack that was in the car was not the one he saw her with. IMO, he seemed to be truthful for the most part. I don't think he was withholding crucial information. He even said he specifically remembered being called in to work and event the last day of June the 30th a Friday, ummm, it was a Monday. Do any of these people have any clue as to times and dates? Do they live in a vacumm? Someone posted a few days ago that George was an ottoman, that is so true, everyone in that house has their feet all over him. Such a shame. IMO.
need2no
10-01-2008, 08:46 PM
I just skimmed the list quickly, but does that look like 85 names?
spiritwolf46
10-01-2008, 08:47 PM
Thanks! You're a doll!:beer:
I second that! Thanx SO much Day2!!!!
:beer:
Kathlb
10-01-2008, 08:47 PM
Does anyone know who the guy listed below is?
Rich Garrad, Carlson Restaurants, Texas.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 08:48 PM
Witness List In Casey Anthony Case
http://www.wesh.com/news/17601789/detail.htmlThank you. Is this list for the neglect charges or the coming murder trial?
kakax
10-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Skipping through the room, singing loudly in my best neener, neener voice.....
Casey is a suspect! > > > Casey is a suspect! > > > Casey is a suspect! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Gotta go, be back to catch up.
:seeya:
Oh the visual, rofl! Hurry back!
playnice
10-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Does anyone know who the guy listed below is?
Rich Garrad, Carlson Restaurants, Texas.
I wondered too. Could it be for a Caylee sighting?
day2day
10-01-2008, 08:49 PM
I second that! Thanx SO much Day2!!!!
:beer:
Anytime my buckeye friend!!:seeya: Lots of LE on that list. :read:
spiritwolf46
10-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Anytime my buckeye friend!!:seeya: Lots of LE on that list. :read:
There sure is!!!! :seeya:
kakax
10-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Witness List In Casey Anthony Case
http://www.wesh.com/news/17601789/detail.html
Thanks Cury!
I don't see Mark Hawkins on the list, but I just did a quick scan. Hmmmmm.
steffaroob4
10-01-2008, 08:52 PM
Does anyone know who the guy listed below is?
Rich Garrad, Carlson Restaurants, Texas.
Could they own Friday's? Wasn't that where Raquel works? just my guess
lonetraveler
10-01-2008, 08:52 PM
If Casey is the only one that can lead them to the truth does that mean there is nothing more to investigate, why would TES be comming back?
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I think history points to a possibility that Casey will not talk! Therefore, TES will be coming back to do what they do best, search for a missing Caylee based upon any information that LE and evidence points to. Evidence points to a Dead Caylee, therefore, don't be surprised if they are trudging through swampy fields and woods looking for a place that Caylee's body is hidden. Casey is the only one who can lead them to the body unless she has an accomplice who also knows where Caylee is located. Unless she confessed to her family members and they personally went out to verify that she was for once telling the truth, She is it!!!!!!!! There are thousands of people who want to see that Caylee is respectfully laid to rest.
need2no
10-01-2008, 08:52 PM
Is anyone having trouble scrolling? I had trouble at work and home.
wow. the witness list. Casey will get to see all her friends again.
YES, I'm having a bunch of trouble on this board today... I just thought it was either my internet provider or my mouse since no one else was mentioning having a problem. Planned on going to get a new mouse tomorrow; thinking I've worn mine out but maybe not if you are also having a problem.
Yep, that should be so awesome for Casey....all her good friends in one place...maybe she or Cindy will take some new pics to put on MySpace . ;)
kakax
10-01-2008, 08:53 PM
Does anyone know who the guy listed below is?
Rich Garrad, Carlson Restaurants, Texas.
Probably the guy that confirmed that Raquell Farrell didn't work at TGI Fridays.
margaret kep
10-01-2008, 08:55 PM
I wondered too. Could it be for a Caylee sighting?
IIRC isn't he the owner of Ricardo's condo.:shrug:
desmom
10-01-2008, 08:58 PM
Does anyone know who the guy listed below is?
Rich Garrad, Carlson Restaurants, Texas.
Carlson Restaurants owns TGIF.
http://www.crww.com/
need2no
10-01-2008, 08:58 PM
is anybody else having a problem with the board????
Pebbles
10-01-2008, 08:58 PM
I just went on FB and Casey is apologizing to everyone on her friends list for being harassed as a result of supporting the effort to find Caylee.....Seriously??? This woman disgusts me to the core! She has some nerve when she is the ONE PERSON who is NOT supporting the efforts to find her own daughter. All she has done is LIE, LIE, LIE!!! It's all out there and yet she is surfing the computer putting pics up of Caylee on her FB, bashing NG, and apologizing to her FB friends? What about her daughter? CASEY - ARE YOU NOT SORRY YOU DID AWAY WITH YOUR DAUGHTER?? The audacity of this punk 22 year old worthless, poor excuse of a mother to even say!! Good Lord what is going on in this world. She makes me sooooo sick to my stomach. IMO had to vent I am sooooooooooo sickened by her little catch phrases on FB.
SHE NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED AND SPEND THE REST OF HER LIFE IN JAIL WHERE SHE BELONGS! :flamemad:
I thoroughly agree with your post. I can't understand how a little girl is missing and yet these lawyers and supporters stand behind Casey and the Anthonys. What is wrong with our country. A little girl is missing and her mother will not tell anyone where she is. Oh, I forgot Casey doesn't know where Caylee is, she was threatened by the kidnappers but Caylee is safe and close to home, did I get that straight.
Even though I disagree with the protesters, I get so angry at the people that are supporting the Anthonys when Caylee is still waiting to be found. George and Cindy are laughing at the media, LE, Tim Miller and the public, they want to show that their family is above the law. They want to file charges against the protesters, but defend their daughter who sits in their home and will not tell anyone where Caylee is.
I guess a little innocent girl's life isn't important. Maybe Cindy feels that Caylee was responsible for coming between her and Casey, so maybe without Caylee in their lives anymore, she can get another chance with Casey. Nothing else explains the way Cindy is acting.
:rose: For Caylee who will never get the chance to see another beautiful sunrise, so many people want there to be justice for you. We hope you are never forgotten and no other child will be taken from us in such an evil way.
playnice
10-01-2008, 08:58 PM
is anybody else having a problem with the board????
Big problem.
desmom
10-01-2008, 08:59 PM
is anybody else having a problem with the board????
I think it is the Nissan ad at the top. :cuss:
?noanswer
10-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Does anyone know who the guy listed below is?
Rich Garrad, Carlson Restaurants, Texas.
Rich Garrad is Human resourse manager for Carlson Resturants. Wonder if he is someone who can verify employment of some of the players in this saga. JMO
?noanswer
10-01-2008, 09:00 PM
Thanks Cury!
I don't see Mark Hawkins on the list, but I just did a quick scan. Hmmmmm.
He's there. Jmo
spiritwolf46
10-01-2008, 09:00 PM
is anybody else having a problem with the board????
YES MA'AM! I sure am having probs. today. Takes for ever to refresh and to get a cursor among other things.
debkay
10-01-2008, 09:01 PM
Anyone know who Bobby Lee Williams on the list of witnesses is?:shrug:
Cury-us Coyote
10-01-2008, 09:01 PM
Thank you. Is this list for the neglect charges or the coming murder trial?
Witness List Released In Casey Anthony Case
The state also released a list of witnesses who may be called to the stand if Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, is charged.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html
:shrug:
BANJO GRANNY
10-01-2008, 09:01 PM
I to think the a;s need to be billed for all the cost that le is having to put out on this case. no one needs to be watching the a;s house. casey is not going anywhere she has no money. well unless people have given a lot of money to them. I have not heard how much money has been given to them. or how much is in the fund to find caylee. jmho:rose:
Your talking about the donations, I wonder if the A's are trying to collect all they can so Casey would have alot of cash if she decided to run.
:rose:For Baby Caylee
need2no
10-01-2008, 09:03 PM
THANK YOU for responding playnice and desmom...I'm signing off now and will check back later....this is ridiculous, and making me nuts!
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:04 PM
YES, I'm having a bunch of trouble on this board today... I just thought it was either my internet provider or my mouse since no one else was mentioning having a problem. Planned on going to get a new mouse tomorrow; thinking I've worn mine out but maybe not if you are also having a problem.
Yep, that should be so awesome for Casey....all her good friends in one place...maybe she or Cindy will take some new pics to put on MySpace . ;)I was also thinking it was my mouse. Glad to hear I'm not the only one. Let's hold off and see what it is, first.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:05 PM
Witness List Released In Casey Anthony Case
The state also released a list of witnesses who may be called to the stand if Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, is charged.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html
:shrug:Oh, duh, thank you.
~jomomma~
10-01-2008, 09:05 PM
i'm not having any problems with the board tonight.
it seemed alittle slow last night for me tho
bchand
10-01-2008, 09:05 PM
Thanks Cury!
I don't see Mark Hawkins on the list, but I just did a quick scan. Hmmmmm.
I believe I saw him - he's listed as a friend
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:06 PM
I have a brand new computer at home and in work and I'm having the same problem. Someone earlier suggested jelly on the scroll key:biggrin:Yep, my computer is only a year old.
bchand
10-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Anyone know who Bobby Lee Williams on the list of witnesses is?:shrug:
From our links list:
Bobby Lee Williams
Tattoo artist, completed Casey's Bella Vida" tattoo on shoulder, last saw Casey on July 15th, 2008. His boss is Danny Colamarino, Casey scheduled another appointment for July 19, 2008
~jomomma~
10-01-2008, 09:08 PM
:flamemad: "Their gonna pin this on me!!" PATHETIC
:rose:Caylee, not forgotten by some!
yup! "all they care about is Caylee"
wah wah wah :rolleyes:
desmom
10-01-2008, 09:10 PM
Is Koby changing his tune tonight? Did he get fired by JB?
aubrey04
10-01-2008, 09:10 PM
Oh no! Nancy is still using Kobe!
Kobe still seems neutral to me though. I wonder how Baez is taking this? Kobe just said he expects there to be charges..
I think Baez might have hired him as a PR move thinking that Kobe would scale back his negative comments - if he was a paid expert.. don't think that's working though.
st777jo
10-01-2008, 09:11 PM
:flamemad: "Their gonna pin this on me!!" PATHETIC
:rose:Caylee, not forgotten by some!
Ha Ha, their pinning it on your wasted life because you did it.
ps: Better wear your sunglasses while your sleeping, oh odious one, because you won't be allowed to behind bars. Sleep tight, you need all the rest you can get.
aubrey04
10-01-2008, 09:11 PM
Is Koby changing his tune tonight? Did he get fired by JB?
I was wondering something similar.. Strange.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:11 PM
Is Koby changing his tune tonight? Did he get fired by JB?Maybe NG slapped him up side of the head! :punch:
desmom
10-01-2008, 09:11 PM
From NG TH....
POI - some LE suspects is associated, but no evidence.
Suspect - LE has evidence to tie a POI to a crime.
jmo
st777jo
10-01-2008, 09:13 PM
I think that Casey needs to step forward; she needs to tell what happened. There is no other answer for her at this time. She has shamed herself, her family, her neighborhood, her home, her friends, and has the answer to locate Caylee.
Please Casey, please without anyone present take them to Caylee. Please. Gig is Up; Sweetheart.
I think her family has shamed themselves, jmo, jo
Katt2
10-01-2008, 09:14 PM
I think it is the Nissan ad at the top. :cuss:
I think it must be an ad because I am not having a problem and have not had one all day but I have the ads blocked.
playnice
10-01-2008, 09:14 PM
From NG TH....
POI - some LE suspects is associated, but no evidence.
Suspect - LE has evidence to tie a POI to a crime.
jmo
I still think TES found something that needed testing. Maybe not caylee but something, her shoes, something of Caseys.
I think its just a matter of days before the arrest. They HAVE something linking Casey.
jmo
sofiesmom
10-01-2008, 09:14 PM
I'm adding "totmom" to my list of words I'm sick of....absolutely.
~jomomma~
10-01-2008, 09:15 PM
When TES comes back......I wonder where the new sitings of Caylee will be?.......Texas?........ or maybe some exotic locale like Aruba LOL......just to kinda mess with Tim's head again.........
oh, please, no!!!!!! not aruba!!! :chicken:
i'm pleased to hear she is a suspect now
playnice
10-01-2008, 09:15 PM
When TES comes back......I wonder where the new sitings of Caylee will be?.......Texas?........ or maybe some exotic locale like Aruba LOL......just to kinda mess with Tim's head again.........
Did Casey have any ex BF home from Iraq they can blame? Maybe a sighting there.:biggrin:
lonetraveler
10-01-2008, 09:16 PM
I agree. All those clutching hands reaching for her throat are undoubtedly waiting outside that door. :chicken:
imo
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Man, the visual I get with your post is mind jarring.
msjoni
10-01-2008, 09:17 PM
big problem.
same here......
lonetraveler
10-01-2008, 09:19 PM
is anybody else having a problem with the board????
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Lots and lots of problems. My computer shut itself down twice already. Verrrrrrry slow.
aubrey04
10-01-2008, 09:19 PM
Wow. Zenaida Gonzalez visited the actual vacant apartment that Casey pointed out. Oh no! Lenny is back!
ETA - He says that Casey was driving Tony's Jeep with the New York license plates, so even if Casey was driving around the apartments that day -- people might not recognize Tony's car. The real Zenaida has SIX children..
Zenaida has NEVER babysat any kids at all.. she never worked as a babysitter.
day2day
10-01-2008, 09:19 PM
Maybe NG slapped him up side of the head! :punch:
Obviously -not hard enough. :D He isn't all that. lol!! jmo
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:20 PM
Zenaida is a pretty lady. She also seems nice. imo
Nellie
10-01-2008, 09:20 PM
So NG's show is saying Casey is now a 'suspect' in Caylee's disappearance. Anyone know how this differs from 'person of interest?'
I'm thinking they're upping the pressure and I expect an arrest soon.
BANJO GRANNY
10-01-2008, 09:21 PM
I've been worried about that for a long time now. How easy would it be; to take off that monitor be out the door and at the airport. To another country?
Easy Peasy I say. Too easy. :cuss:
Omg that one page today that showed Casey slipping out the front window, hilarious! I spit out coffee on my screen.
IMO With George being a LE at one time, I would think that he would have conections with people who could get false Id's made, you know everything she would need to just go away to another country. IMO
I know they are not rich people, but look they found someone else to go her bond again. IMO If you really want to do something for your child you would move heaven and earth for them. It is a shame that Casey did not care enough for Caylee to do the same for her IMO
:rose:For Baby Caylee
sofiesmom
10-01-2008, 09:21 PM
Is Koby changing his tune tonight? Did he get fired by JB?[I]I think so! (About changing his tune) He also looks like he's lost weight. I hear that saying things against your better judgement is very stressful.
bchand
10-01-2008, 09:21 PM
Is Leonard wearing eye makeup?
lol I didn't notice. He's not been wearing his glasses lately. Wonder if he got contacts?
st777jo
10-01-2008, 09:23 PM
Zenaida is a pretty lady. She also seems nice. imo
Definitely. Compared to what some had to say about her the other day.
spiritwolf46
10-01-2008, 09:26 PM
lol I didn't notice. He's not been wearing his glasses lately. Wonder if he got contacts?
If he starts wearing candy apple red lipstick, I am DONE watching NG!
The interview with Zani is interesting. Especially the cars resembling each other. Goes to show you just how hard the princess studied yet another victim to try to get her arse out of trouble. SCARY!
So what do you know?? Our princess if finally listed as a suspect. About time!!
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:27 PM
IMO With George being a LE at one time, I would think that he would have conections with people who could get false Id's made, you know everything she would need to just go away to another country. IMO
I know they are not rich people, but look they found someone else to go her bond again. IMO If you really want to do something for your child you would move heaven and earth for them. It is a shame that Casey did not care enough for Caylee to do the same for her IMO
:rose:For Baby CayleeNo, I don't think just because he's ex-LE that he would have "connections." They're not omnipotent. imo
playnice
10-01-2008, 09:28 PM
Im glad she is sueing. even if she doesnt get a penny her message needs to be heard so people stop judging her . Can you imagine the cops showing up and raking you through the coals for a kidnapping you didnt do and in front of your children?
st777jo
10-01-2008, 09:29 PM
Didn't Casey, early in her interviews, say that she didn't know much personal things about Zanaida? Something to the effect that she was a private person. Then goes on to say all the rest of the bull. jmo, jo
desmom
10-01-2008, 09:30 PM
Little Bitty
A big thank you for the NG synopsis every night. You do a great job!
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:30 PM
Wow. Zenaida Gonzalez visited the actual vacant apartment that Casey pointed out. Oh no! Lenny is back!
ETA - He says that Casey was driving Tony's Jeep with the New York license plates, so even if Casey was driving around the apartments that day -- people might not recognize Tony's car. The real Zenaida has SIX children..
Zenaida has NEVER babysat any kids at all.. she never worked as a babysitter.Six children! The woman needs a job. Very nice lady, no airs, either. imo
dtviewer
10-01-2008, 09:30 PM
LE interviewing CA...again...she has nothing she can give them. More old clips. Wasting precious minutes of time on the show.
NG is awaiting the formal charges to FINALLY come down.
ZFG is on...Looks sharp with hair pulled back in a bun and wearing a black blazer and light blue silk shirt with collar underneath blazer.
ZFG first realized she was part of the disappearance when LE called her. LE asked if she was the mother of two children and driving a certain car. Her immediate reaction: In shock. Had never heard of Casey. She was in the store with her daughters when LE called her on her cell. She looked at the vacant apartment at the Sawgrass just the one time.
Her attorney John MOrgan is there: How did Casey get that information on ZFG? She filled out a visitor's card. May have gotten that information that way. Casey knew people that lived in the area.
Padilla: She knew Annie and Dante who lived in 218. Casey was driving Tony's jeep that day with a NY license plate on the day ZFG visited.
ZFG has 6 children. Why steal one more? After ZFG was told that LE thought she might be a suspect she was in shock and went home and told LE she would meet them there. Cops were there when she came home. Cops asked if she had gone to Sawgrass on a certain date. She showed them the car she was driving on that date. They showed her pictures of Casey and Caylee and she didn't know who they were. LE then informed her about Casey's lies. She had never babysat for Casey or anyone who worked for Universal. She is a cleaning lady.
John Morgan: ZFG was a basket case when he met her. Fired from her job...can't find a new one. Push back with this defamation lawsuit.
Heres what I dont understand.
The Sawgrass card Zaneida filled out said Zaneida Gonzalez. No Fernandez listed. So Casey could not have got the Fernandez info from there.
Also, early in the case I thought it was reported that Zaneida was ZG, with no Fernandez.
Hmmmmm...strange.
playnice
10-01-2008, 09:30 PM
What am I missing ? For several nights, Leonard P keeps mentioning - harping - that Casey was driving Tony's vehicle, not hers, on the day she supposedly left Caylee at Sawgrass with the invisible ZG. What is he implying ?
Maybe someone else had Caseys car getting rid of a body?:shrug:
ruth66
10-01-2008, 09:33 PM
Why does NG keep asking the questions about the scenario of the suspect telling her lawyer where the child is buried and what the lawyer's obligation is? She talked about this last night too. Does anyone think there is info. that we are not privy to?:shrug:
Nellie
10-01-2008, 09:34 PM
Heres what I dont understand.
The Sawgrass card Zaneida filled out said Zaneida Gonzalez. No Fernandez listed. So Casey could not have got the Fernandez info from there.
Also, early in the case I thought it was reported that Zaneida was ZG, with no Fernandez.
Hmmmmm...strange.
She looked her up on the internet....
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:34 PM
Didn't Casey, early in her interviews, say that she didn't know much personal things about Zanaida? Something to the effect that she was a private person. Then goes on to say all the rest of the bull. jmo, joShe also said to LE that ZFG was in her late 20s, and didn't have any children.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:35 PM
She looked her up on the internet....Yep, that's where she got the various locations, then she built up her lie and pasted the real ZG who looked at the apt. into it. imo
aubrey04
10-01-2008, 09:36 PM
Six children! The woman needs a job. Very nice lady, no airs, either. imo
Yeah, I bet that job loss really hit her hard. Poor lady.. She truly got thrown into the mix for no reason at all. Can you imagine walking around with the name Zenaida Ferendez-Gonzalez, especially in Orlando, Florida?
She also said to LE that ZFG was in her late 20s, and didn't have any children.
LOL! Yeah, boy did she get THAT wrong! The woman has 6 kids!
ruth66
10-01-2008, 09:36 PM
Im glad she is sueing. even if she doesnt get a penny her message needs to be heard so people stop judging her . Can you imagine the cops showing up and raking you through the coals for a kidnapping you didnt do and in front of your children?
I agree, if for no other reason to set a precedence that you can't just throw out a name, ruin a life and get away with it. If it happens to her, whats to say it couldn't happen any one of us.
msjoni
10-01-2008, 09:38 PM
I agree, if for no other reason to set a precedence that you can't just throw out a name, ruin a life and get away with it. If it happens to her, whats to say it couldn't happen any one of us.
I hope she wins her lawsuit.....
desmom
10-01-2008, 09:39 PM
Ooooh ... LE came right out and said that they think many of the 5,000 Caylee sighting tips have been 'smoke screens.' :eek:
Dog was barking and I could not hear what was being said.....
Did they give any other info about the smoke screens? Does LE feel these tips were sent into mislead them on purpose? TIA
I hope she wins her lawsuit.....
Me too! This is no game, Casey.
WillowInFlight
10-01-2008, 09:40 PM
Ooooh ... LE came right out and said that they think many of the 5,000 Caylee sighting tips have been 'smoke screens.' :eek:
Well what took him so long, we have been saying that for weeks. I wonder when she is formally charged with murder if she will start singing and I wonder who if anyone she will throw under the bus.
aubrey04
10-01-2008, 09:41 PM
Oh! John Morgan is alleging that members of the Anthony group were trying to sell pictures..
Also, he says that Casey used Zenaida on purpose for racial purposes. He said she was using the "race card" when ZFG was accused.
day2day
10-01-2008, 09:43 PM
Oh! John Morgan is alleging that members of the Anthony group were trying to sell pictures..
Also, he says that Casey used Zenaida on purpose for racial purposes. He said she was using the "race card" when ZFG was accused.
I tend to agree about the pics on 20/20. I would LOVE to know who got the licensing monies. I am pretty sure if the A's did, John Morgans gonna know....
There goes yer money ---byebye..jmo!!:read:
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:43 PM
I hope she wins her lawsuit.....Yes, she got death threats. That's horrifying. Her atty said she was a "basket case" when she came to him. Her phone number was made public. Who did that? :eek:
~jomomma~
10-01-2008, 09:43 PM
k...time for me to head!
y'all keep the board up and moving now!
i'll try to peek in from the hotel computer
:seeya:
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE!!!!! :rose:
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:46 PM
So when LE tracks down the ZFG that they did Casey can say..wrong one. I said ZFG not ZG. See...another goose chase. Mix a little of the truth with lies. Say, LE is not listening to me it is the wrong one...I said ZFG even though this was how I put the blame on ZFG.Yes, but it WAS the one who looked at the apt. That fact makes it an obvious lie. She got the car make wrong, too. Easy to see that she was lurking around, and planned to murder her little baby. :( imo
st777jo
10-01-2008, 09:46 PM
Dog was barking and I could not hear what was being said.....
Did they give any other info about the smoke screens? Does LE feel these tips were sent into mislead them on purpose? TIA
He said he thinks the purpose was to take the focus off of Casey.
Pebbles
10-01-2008, 09:46 PM
I agree. The only reason problems arise is because the Anthonys become confrontational. imo
I agree. :beer:
desmom
10-01-2008, 09:46 PM
Naticia Lance: LE feels that a lot of these tips that feel that they have seen Caylee but it is not. But the tips are coming from the anthony family and are not leading them to Caylee.
--snipped--
If I'm picking up with they're puttin down, that's absolutely :rolleyes: what they mean. LE even said, when asked if any of the tips or leads were credible, and I quote: 'In a word, NO.'
So the Anthonys are giving LE tips that are not credible. I am sure G & C will say they received the tip through an email or phone call, BUT if they are making this stuff up to take the focus off of Casey ......
WOW!
ETA ~ I sure hope they saved their emails.
ruth66
10-01-2008, 09:46 PM
Yep, that's where she got the various locations, then she built up her lie and pasted the real ZG who looked at the apt. into it. imo
I still think ZG may have parked her car and Casey was waiting (staking out as Lee said). ZG may have left her car open and Casey found something with ZG's name on it (mail, anything). She may have seen the apt. manager walk ZG to the apt to show it but Casey didn't realize that was what was happening (may have thought she was going to her own apt.). She may not have gotten a good look at ZG and thought she looked younger than what she is.
I am not saying I think ZG has a case or should get anything from it other than to clear her name but I also don't think that Casey and her family should be able to accuse anyone under the sun of the horrible things that Casey herself did.:shrug:
Cury-us Coyote
10-01-2008, 09:47 PM
Is Koby changing his tune tonight? Did he get fired by JB?
OR maybe when treated respectfully, he responded in kind.
jmo
WillowInFlight
10-01-2008, 09:47 PM
So when LE tracks down the ZFG that they did Casey can say..wrong one. I said ZFG not ZG. See...another goose chase. Mix a little of the truth with lies. Say, LE is not listening to me it is the wrong one...I said ZFG even though this was how I put the blame on ZFG.
But how many ZG have looked at that particular apartment?
dtviewer
10-01-2008, 09:47 PM
So when LE tracks down the ZFG that they did Casey can say..wrong one. I said ZFG not ZG. See...another goose chase. Mix a little of the truth with lies. Say, LE is not listening to me it is the wrong one...I said ZFG even though this was how I put the blame on ZFG.
But what throws me is the guest card only said Zaneida Gonzalez.
Casey said Zaneida FERNANDEZ Gonzalez.
This Zaneida Gonzalez who filled out the guest card, from what I heard in the interview on NG, her full name is really Zaneida Fernandez Gonzalez.
So how did Casey find out her full name (the Fernandez part) since it wasnt filled out that way on the guest card?
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:48 PM
Anyone watching NG in the Central Fla market-ZG's attorney had 1 of his commercials running during the break, I've seen him on other channels but never on Headline newsZG hired a good one, good for her. imo
day2day
10-01-2008, 09:48 PM
k...time for me to head!
y'all keep the board up and moving now!
i'll try to peek in from the hotel computer
:seeya:
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE!!!!! :rose:
Have a safe trip!! Hope when you get back we have a new inmate in Orlando!! :seeya:
aubrey04
10-01-2008, 09:49 PM
I tend to agree about the pics on 20/20. I would LOVE to know who got the licensing monies. I am pretty sure if the A's did, John Morgans gonna know....
There goes yer money ---byebye..jmo!!:read:
I don't necessarily believe movie rights have been sold but I do believe 20/20 paid for those exclusive rights to the photos/videos.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:49 PM
But what throws me is the guest card only said Zaneida Gonzalez.
Casey said Zaneida FERNANDEZ Gonzalez.
This Zaneida Gonzalez who filled out the guest card, from what I heard in the interview on NG, her full name is really Zaneida Fernandez Gonzalez.
So how did Casey find out her full name (the Fernandez part) since it wasnt filled out that way on the guest card?She did a people search, and found her in that area. imo
dtviewer
10-01-2008, 09:49 PM
Who does that? Releases a POTENTIAL witness list ..
This case is the most bizarre I've ever followed. :confused:
Thats actually not too uncommon.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:52 PM
I still think ZG may have parked her car and Casey was waiting (staking out as Lee said). ZG may have left her car open and Casey found something with ZG's name on it (mail, anything). She may have seen the apt. manager walk ZG to the apt to show it but Casey didn't realize that was what was happening (may have thought she was going to her own apt.). She may not have gotten a good look at ZG and thought she looked younger than what she is.
I am not saying I think ZG has a case or should get anything from it other than to clear her name but I also don't think that Casey and her family should be able to accuse anyone under the sun of the horrible things that Casey herself did.:shrug:Every legal TH
I listened to said she had an excellent case.
Pruddennce
10-01-2008, 09:53 PM
Yep, that's where she got the various locations, then she built up her lie and pasted the real ZG who looked at the apt. into it. imo
Im wondering if her "LE bunking connection" had something to do with looking up the plate # of ZG's car (based on a lie by casey perhaps about an auto accident, or some other story).....
and that is how she got ZG's name AND the style of her car (she got the color right, but the model wrong in her memory).
I think that A Rusciano got fired because he looked up a plate # for her (outside of policy)
IMO
best regards,
Pru
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:53 PM
Maybe the National Enquirer can get to the bottom of the money trail. They did a good job with Edwards. I really NEED to know if the Anthony's have taken money. Why? Because I want ZFG to get some of that money, and the rest should go to TES and the Orlando Police Department.Absolutely. The woman has six children. LE won't get any money, they're doing their job. imo
WillowInFlight
10-01-2008, 09:54 PM
Every legal TH
I listened to said she had an excellent case.
Good for her, I wish LE could sue the Anthonys after Casey is convicted of murder.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 09:56 PM
Im wondering if her "LE bunking connection" had something to do with looking up the plate # of ZG's car (based on a lie by casey perhaps about an auto accident, or some other story).....
and that is how she got ZG's name AND the style of her car (she got the color right, but the model wrong in her memory).
I think that A Rusciano got fired because he looked up a plate # for her (outside of policy)
IMO
best regards,
PruIt's possible, but wouldn't whomever the cop was get charged with a crime? I really don't think that happened. Casey didn't have a license plate number, it wasn't even discussed with LE. imo
day2day
10-01-2008, 09:56 PM
I don't necessarily believe movie rights have been sold but I do believe 20/20 paid for those exclusive rights to the photos/videos.
I do too. And i am pretty sure (i could be wrong) that Casey would have to sign something. Afterall, she was her mama. :(..
jmo:rose:
ruth66
10-01-2008, 09:57 PM
Every legal TH
I listened to said she had an excellent case.
I have heard that too (and would love to see her get it) but when you put a comment like that out there on this board, you incite people so ;)
spiritwolf46
10-01-2008, 09:58 PM
But what throws me is the guest card only said Zaneida Gonzalez.
Casey said Zaneida FERNANDEZ Gonzalez.
This Zaneida Gonzalez who filled out the guest card, from what I heard in the interview on NG, her full name is really Zaneida Fernandez Gonzalez.
So how did Casey find out her full name (the Fernandez part) since it wasnt filled out that way on the guest card?
Maybe Casey's police officer bed buddy ran the plates? :shrug: God knows that she could have lied to him by saying that she almost ran her off the road, etc. She prolly watched which Apt. she was looking at that figured she would get it and BAM, there is her alibi! Oh, I don't know, just trying to figure it out.
ETA: Well Pru, we thought alike, huh? ;)
dtviewer
10-01-2008, 10:00 PM
If you erase your blackboard completely and simply write the sentence: 'Casey is full of doodoo,' things make a lot more sense. IMO, you give the princess way too much credit when you assume that everything she did and every lie she told was part of some brilliant, well laid-out plan. It wasn't. She lied with abandon and didn't care whether any of it made sense. Most of it doesn't. End of story. More or less. :)
Oh no, trust me!! No mistaken anything for brilliance by Casey at all.
My point is:
Either Zanieda Gonzalez and her lawyer are 'fibbing' and her name is NOT Fernandez.
Or somehow Casey found more info about her than what was on the guest card.
Other than this peripheral smoke and mirrors crap, this is a very east case. All the muddying doesnt hide any of what happened.
desmom
10-01-2008, 10:01 PM
But what throws me is the guest card only said Zaneida Gonzalez.
Casey said Zaneida FERNANDEZ Gonzalez.
This Zaneida Gonzalez who filled out the guest card, from what I heard in the interview on NG, her full name is really Zaneida Fernandez Gonzalez.
So how did Casey find out her full name (the Fernandez part) since it wasnt filled out that way on the guest card?
IMO, Casey likes to over dramatize everything about her life...
Zaneida Fernandez-Gonzalez sounds more impressive than Zaneida Gonzalez.
She didn't have a babysitter, she had a nanny.
She didn't work at Universal, she was an event planner at Universal.
jmo
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 10:01 PM
Idol... practically every criminal trial's witness list is a list of potential witnesses.
Especially if it's the prosecution's list. ;)I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Anthony house tonight. :D
FrankieBones1
10-01-2008, 10:02 PM
](((snipping the long list as per Coldwater's request regarding quoting long posts)))[/COLOR]
http://www.wesh.com/news/17601789/detail.html
Thanks for the list and the link. I'm so glad they finally released it!
ruth66
10-01-2008, 10:03 PM
It's possible, but wouldn't whomever the cop was get charged with a crime? I really don't think that happened. Casey didn't have a license plate number, it wasn't even discussed with LE. imo
I once worked for a govt. agency and had access to very very personal information. We were told under no circumstance were we to look up anyone we knew, were related to or celebrity for that matter. There was something built into the system that alerted them if anything was searched. Maybe they just told us that to scare us and I was naive enough to believe it, but I did not even go close to anything that had a name on it of someone I knew crossed the street next to my house (exagerating of course) but you get the pic.
desmom
10-01-2008, 10:04 PM
Maybe Casey's police officer bed buddy ran the plates? :shrug: God knows that she could have lied to him by saying that she almost ran her off the road, etc. She prolly watched which Apt. she was looking at that figured she would get it and BAM, there is her alibi! Oh, I don't know, just trying to figure it out.
ETA: Well Pru, we thought alike, huh? ;)
If he did, there would be a record of his request in the dispatch centers computer records....or I know when a lic. plate is ran in our county, there is a record of other officers that have ran that plate.
jmo
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 10:05 PM
Oh no, trust me!! No mistaken anything for brilliance by Casey at all.
My point is:
Either Zanieda Gonzalez and her lawyer are 'fibbing' and her name is NOT Fernandez.
Or somehow Casey found more info about her than what was on the guest card.
Other than this peripheral smoke and mirrors crap, this is a very east case. All the muddying doesnt hide any of what happened.All she had to do was people search on her computer. Simple. ZFG would be on there, with her address. There wouldn't be any other info, though. She made up the other details (wrong) and saw ZG drive away, she got the color of the car right, but she didn't get the make right. That's it. imo
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 10:08 PM
You are correct about that.
I like hearing all the ethical questions being asked lately to defense attorneys about a client confessing and not having a body found etc.
I think it's possible that Baez was told something and may have to back away from the case or turn over certain aspects of the case to another attorney.
Scott Peterson case was a prime example of what has been stated in recent days about this. I was one of the first to say that Scott Peterson confessed something to his attorney Kirk McAllester and that was why he stepped away the way he di but got shot down by those who claimed to know the law and/or were defense attorneys on the board at that time.
If Baez is an ethical man or attorney he would do the same before trial. IMO IF Casey has stated anything to him.
They named casey a suspect today and i feel it will just be within days they charge her for the crime of murder.
Sorry for going off the topic of your post and on a tangent about this. I didn't want to have to create 2 posts to say what i wanted to say and reply to your post lolI agree, LO, and I think naming her a "suspect" is the next logical step in the process. She should be sweating now, and thinking about her options. imo
OneUp
10-01-2008, 10:08 PM
Six children! The woman needs a job. Very nice lady, no airs, either. imoI'm glad to hear her lawyer is polishing her appearance. As appalled as I was to hear some of the things said on this very board about her based on things like her appearance and allegations that she was evicted, I wasn't surprised. People are very judgemental about shallow surface things. Being Poor enough to be evicted is not only not indicative of being a bad person...but when one has 6 children to support it is far from surprising. For Pete's sake! Z F-G worjed as a cleaning woman! How upscale should she present herself? I'd imagine she wore a uniform at work or cleaned after hours when the clients weren't in the offices, etc.
I think some who fancy themselves Christians have forgotten that Jesus Christ spent the most important years of his life as a homeless person....Think on it people. How many might turn away those most deserving of kindness or support just based upon their personal appearance. I myself do not profess any Superiority morally or spiritually. But I wouldn't say vile things about a human being based only on their tattoo's or lack of grooming to meet my standards! Give her a break alreayd!
Can one of you say you wouldn't be as mad as Hades if your children were teased because some chippy flung your name into a missing chiold case? I'd be pretty PO'ed myself! If my children were harassed, that would be all the cause I needed to sue the carp out of someone attempting to "borrow" from my life to throw suspicion away from themselves!
JMO.
WillowInFlight
10-01-2008, 10:08 PM
:shrug: Sorry but I think Nancy is soooo fake....but I still like her~
:rose:Caylee, not forgotten by some
Really?, I think she is far from fake, I love how she calls it as she sees it.
Rayosunshine
10-01-2008, 10:09 PM
Casey says Zanni has no kids, ZG has 2 kids-Does Casey even mention what kind of car ZG drives or did this come from the Blanchard park story? Casey says Zanni lives at sawgrass, ZG does not-this is not the person Casey was talking about.
Per NG tonight, ZG has 6 children.
Cury-us Coyote
10-01-2008, 10:09 PM
Oh no, trust me!! No mistaken anything for brilliance by Casey at all.
My point is:
Either Zanieda Gonzalez and her lawyer are 'fibbing' and her name is NOT Fernandez.
Or somehow Casey found more info about her than what was on the guest card.
Other than this peripheral smoke and mirrors crap, this is a very east case. All the muddying doesnt hide any of what happened.
Do we know what time of day ZG visited Sawgrass? Maybe with the phone calls it will make more sense.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 10:10 PM
I once worked for a govt. agency and had access to very very personal information. We were told under no circumstance were we to look up anyone we knew, were related to or celebrity for that matter. There was something built into the system that alerted them if anything was searched. Maybe they just told us that to scare us and I was naive enough to believe it, but I did not even go close to anything that had a name on it of someone I knew crossed the street next to my house (exagerating of course) but you get the pic.Thank you, ruth. I think doing something like that would be a violation of the civil rights of the person searched. Not something to be taken lightly. imo
spiritwolf46
10-01-2008, 10:10 PM
If he did, there would be a record of his request in the dispatch centers computer records....or I know when a lic. plate is ran in our county, there is a record of other officers that have ran that plate.
jmo
I understand that, but LE just may have that info. they are holding in case of a murder charge. Just one more thing to keep and lay it on her during trial.
Again, just a thought. :seeya:
Katprint
10-01-2008, 10:12 PM
Idol... practically every criminal trial's witness list is a list of potential witnesses.
Especially if it's the prosecution's list. ;)
It's that pesky U.S. Constitution giving defendants the right to confront the witnesses against them. Those darn courts have interpreted that as including the right to know who those adverse witnesses will be before they appear on the witness stand, so that the defendant's attorney can prepare to confront them in a meaningful way. Such a bother! There would be many more convictions if the defense learned about the identity of the adverse witnesses for the first time when those witnesses were called by the prosecution to testify so that the defense couldn't do any background investigation to find out if the adverse witnesses had ever made any inconsistent statements or had any biases against the defendant, and so on. ;-)
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
ruth66
10-01-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm glad to hear her lawyer is polishing her appearance. As appalled as I was to hear some of the things said on this very board about her based on things like her appearance and allegations that she was evicted, I wasn't surprised. People are very judgemental about shallow surface things. Being Poor enough to be evicted is not only not indicative of being a bad person...but when one has 6 children to support it is far from surprising. For Pete's sake! Z F-G worjed as a cleaning woman! How upscale should she present herself? I'd imagine she wore a uniform at work or cleaned after hours when the clients weren't in the offices, etc.
I think some who fancy themselves Christians have forgotten that Jesus Christ spent the most important years of his life as a homeless person....Think on it people. How many might turn away those most deserving of kindness or support just based upon their personal appearance. I myself do not profess any Superiority morally or spiritually. But I wouldn't say vile things about a human being based only on their tattoo's or lack of grooming to meet my standards! Give her a break alreayd!
Can one of you say you wouldn't be as mad as Hades if your children were teased because some chippy flung your name into a missing chiold case? I'd be pretty PO'ed myself! If my children were harassed, that would be all the cause I needed to sue the carp out of someone attempting to "borrow" from my life to throw suspicion away from themselves!
JMO.
AMEN to that!! I think many are missing the point about ZG. I am glad she has come through with this suit, it may give the Anthony's pause about selling their story...:seeya:
playnice
10-01-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm glad to hear her lawyer is polishing her appearance. As appalled as I was to hear some of the things said on this very board about her based on things like her appearance and allegations that she was evicted, I wasn't surprised. People are very judgemental about shallow surface things. Being Poor enough to be evicted is not only not indicative of being a bad person...but when one has 6 children to support it is far from surprising. For Pete's sake! Z F-G worjed as a cleaning woman! How upscale should she present herself? I'd imagine she wore a uniform at work or cleaned after hours when the clients weren't in the offices, etc.
I think some who fancy themselves Christians have forgotten that Jesus Christ spent the most important years of his life as a homeless person....Think on it people. How many might turn away those most deserving of kindness or support just based upon their personal appearance. I myself do not profess any Superiority morally or spiritually. But I wouldn't say vile things about a human being based only on their tattoo's or lack of grooming to meet my standards! Give her a break alreayd!
Can one of you say you wouldn't be as mad as Hades if your children were teased because some chippy flung your name into a missing chiold case? I'd be pretty PO'ed myself! If my children were harassed, that would be all the cause I needed to sue the carp out of someone attempting to "borrow" from my life to throw suspicion away from themselves!
JMO.
:beer: Very well put.
Joan Weiss
10-01-2008, 10:13 PM
Really?, I think she is far from fake, I love how she calls it as she sees it.I agree. My ex detested her, but one night she said "BALDERDASH! to one atty, and he got up and cheered. He absolutely loved her after that. imo
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