Tuesday, Sept 30th Evening - Day 106

[FrankieBones1]

New thread for you all!

[warrkat]

New thread for you all!

LOL. Your bus runs faster than mine.

Question: I don't know if it matters at all, but do we know why Casey got fired from Universal (or Kodak, or whatever)?

[kakax]

Has Casey been arrested yet?:tongue:

:seeya: G'afternoon everyone...

[FrankieBones1]

LOL. Your bus runs faster than mine.

Question: I don't know if it matters at all, but do we know why Casey got fired from Universal (or Kodak, or whatever)?
Her boss wasn't crazy about her partying lifestlye. It's possilble she showed up late on occaision.

[FrankieBones1]

Has Casey been arrested yet?:tongue:

:seeya: G'afternoon everyone...

The only news I've heard is contained in this video...

Eighty five witnesses are expected to take the stand in the event this goes to trial.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17584838/index.html

[day2day]

Thanks for the new thread!! You are THE best!! :seeya:

[beckyj]

Good afternoon all. I was gone all day and hoping I would log in to some good news. Doesn't look like much happening though.

[Roux]

Her boss wasn't crazy about her partying lifestlye. It's possilble she showed up late on occaision.

Someone posted yesterday that Casey more or less abandoned her position with the result that they let her go. Supposedly she was a good employee and they anticipated giving her a promotion. I don't know where the poster got the info.

[warrkat]

Her boss wasn't crazy about her partying lifestlye. It's possilble she showed up late on occaision.

Or didn't show up at all.......
thx

[kakax]

The only news I've heard is contained in this video...

Eighty five witnesses are expected to take the stand in the event this goes to trial.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17584838/index.html


I have errands to run this afternoon, check back later!!:seeya: Holler really loud if something happens!

[day2day]

Good afternoon all. I was gone all day and hoping I would log in to some good news. Doesn't look like much happening though.

Hey...nice to "see" you!! Are you the same becky that has the cravings for the WM cakes? IF so i just wanted you to know that i have it now..
hammer And sadly-no news today.

[SavannahStar]

Someone posted yesterday that Casey more or less abandoned her position with the result that they let her go. Supposedly she was a good employee and they anticipated giving her a promotion. I don't know where the poster got the info.

I saw that post yesterday and it sounded familiar then, like I had heard that before. But after so many days in this case, so many interviews and articles.....who knows.

[day2day]

I have errands to run this afternoon, check back later!!:seeya: Holler really loud if something happens!

Be safe-i have to run too! I hope something happens while we are gone!

:seeya:

[Roux]

I saw that post yesterday and it sounded familiar then, like I had heard that before. But after so many days in this case, so many interviews and articles.....who knows.

I know what you mean! If it is true, I wonder what was going on at that time, i.e., what would Casey have been up to that she just quit going to work?

[beckyj]

The only news I've heard is contained in this video...

Eighty five witnesses are expected to take the stand in the event this goes to trial.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17584838/index.html

I see she's wearing her white sunglasses again. Thinks she's something doesn't she?
JMO

[snap4]

Frankiebones,

your sig line cracks me up!

Dead Squirrel Climbing...Coming to a theatre near you!

[beckyj]

Hey...nice to "see" you!! Are you the same becky that has the cravings for the WM cakes? IF so i just wanted you to know that i have it now..
hammer And sadly-no news today.

Not sure what WM cakes are, so I guess not! Hope you get some. :)

[marinewife5]

Not sure what WM cakes are, so I guess not! Hope you get some. :)

did someone say cake???? that's about all i can follow in this case anymore...supernatural zombie squirrels, cindy managing the sherriff's dept, casey and her imaginary posse following the invisible nanny, i am still muddling through all the new info.

jmo

[WillowInFlight]

Or didn't show up at all.......
thx

That's how I heard it, she just quit showing up.

[st777jo]

I know what you mean! If it is true, I wonder what was going on at that time, i.e., what would Casey have been up to that she just quit going to work?

Maybe because her job didn't include being horizontal all the time???

[luvinlife]

I know what you mean! If it is true, I wonder what was going on at that time, i.e., what would Casey have been up to that she just quit going to work?



My guess is she found it was a lot of work, having a child and working for a living.moo

[FrankieBones1]

Someone posted yesterday that Casey more or less abandoned her position with the result that they let her go. Supposedly she was a good employee and they anticipated giving her a promotion. I don't know where the poster got the info.
I'm pretty sure it was her old boss that was interviewed on TV. That's what he said, anyway. I'll see if I can find it.

[crymeariver2006]

Maybe because her job didn't include being horizontal all the time???

:eek:

No you di'int!!!!!

[snap4]

Hope no one minds but I just had to bring these over from this mornings thread because I am still laughing over them


Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnieLeigh7
Daddy hit a squirrel who shot off two offspring, stillborns, but yet they managed to crawl into the engine, where Casey found them after they were thrown from the engine and plastered onto the front of of the car, which made her trunk stink.



Is that better? Understand now?

Quote:
Originally Posted by snap4
I vote this the most creative post of the day, anyone else?

Quote:
Originally Posted by forensicnut
And their names were Chip and Dale and they were singing the Chip and Dale theme song.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnieLeigh7
That's chipmunks now, don't get everyone confused

Quote:
Originally Posted by ?noanswer
There were no squirrels, except as a figment of Casey's imagination. JMO

Quote:
Originally Posted by SayWHAT?
But did the imaginary squirrels have a concussion? Perhaps a large cut behind their wittle ears?

Quote:
Originally Posted by msgatorslayer
I've been gone all day but it gets my vote.
The story is so good - an Anthony could have wrote it, lmao.



Ok, so I should have let someone else try this, bringing over posts from the morning thread thing, because I am a novice, LOL beacuase, I ended up putting all of these posts right back on the morning thread somehow, so this is my second shot at this. Hope it worked, and I have to go soon and just wanted to say...Thanks to all the inquiring, imaginative, and humorous minds on here. You are always so interesting that I am now addicted to this site!! Have a great afternoon all
snap

[jammies]

I thought the boss interview was in the latest docs?

[crymeariver2006]

I'm pretty sure it was her old boss that was interviewed on TV. That's what he said, anyway. I'll see if I can find it.


I don't think it was her boss, seems like it was one of the red haired reporters that are on NG.

:shrug:

[crymeariver2006]

I thought the boss interview was in the latest docs?


You might be right, but I don't recall 'reading' it, I recall 'seeing' someone relay the story.

[FrankieBones1]

I don't think it was her boss, seems like it was one of the red haired reporters that are on NG.

:shrug: Thanks!~ Yes, his name is Mike Kozak.

I can't find the video but I did find something in the Sentinel.

Anthony's boss warns her about partying

In a deposition, Anthony's former boss at Kodak, Mike Kozak, said he once talked to her about her partying habits.

Kozak, who had a photo-imaging contract at Universal Orlando, told detectives that on one occasion he had told her that she can't manage people during the day and then go out partying at night.


Anthony worked there for a 5-to-6 month period in 2004-05, but left after giving birth to Caylee. She was in the manager-trainee program and Kozak said she got along with the crew, but she was young.

"We actually thought kind of highly of her,'' he said.

http://mobile.orlandosentinel.com/detail.jsp?key=168155&rc=top&full=1

[5boxersmom]

The only news I've heard is contained in this video...

Eighty five witnesses are expected to take the stand in the event this goes to trial.
http://www.wesh.com/video/17584838/index.html

Sheriff Berry said Working a homicide without a body. Guess that pretty much proves they are not looking for a live Caylee.:rose:

[st777jo]

:eek:

No you di'int!!!!!

No not I. Casey, lol

[WinnieLeigh7]

How it all began...

http://media.photobucket.com/image/squirrels/kosmicdancer77/squirrels.jpg


http://media.photobucket.com/image/squirrels/goingladybuggy/squirrels.jpg


http://media.photobucket.com/image/squirrels/Volksgirl26/squirrels.jpg

[GrannyB]

Her boss wasn't crazy about her partying lifestlye. It's possilble she showed up late on occaision.

I thought Jesse said she didn't party back then?

[st777jo]

Thanks!~ Yes, his name is Mike Kozak.

I can't find the video but I did find something in the Sentinel.

Anthony's boss warns her about partying

In a deposition, Anthony's former boss at Kodak, Mike Kozak, said he once talked to her about her partying habits.

Kozak, who had a photo-imaging contract at Universal Orlando, told detectives that on one occasion he had told her that she can't manage people during the day and then go out partying at night.


Anthony worked there for a 5-to-6 month period in 2004-05, but left after giving birth to Caylee. She was in the manager-trainee program and Kozak said she got along with the crew, but she was young.

"We actually thought kind of highly of her,'' he said.

http://mobile.orlandosentinel.com/detail.jsp?key=168155&rc=top&full=1


I thought she worked until April 06???

[GrannyB]

I saw that post yesterday and it sounded familiar then, like I had heard that before. But after so many days in this case, so many interviews and articles.....who knows.I

If I'd had any clue this was going to be this screwed up I would have kept better records. As it is I have a folder with so many links it take hours to find what I'm looking for.

[snap4]

more from the morning thread:lol: Winnie you kill me!!!!!!!


How the morning began....

http://media.photobucket.com/image/squirrels/kosmicdancer77/squirrels.jpg

[WillowInFlight]

I thought Jesse said she didn't party back then?

He did, he said they mostly went to the movies.

[msgatorslayer]

more from the morning thread:lol: Winnie you kill me!!!!!!!

:lol: Winnie's gonna make me pull a stomach muscle with all this laughing. A squirell stroller, lmao.

[WinnieLeigh7]

more from the morning thread:lol: Winnie you kill me!!!!!!!




:) Sometimes just have to replace the saddness with a lil' silly~ness for sanity purposes in situations like these

[ellegna]

Hope no one minds but I just had to bring these over from this mornings thread because I am still laughing over them


Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnieLeigh7
Daddy hit a squirrel who shot off two offspring, stillborns, but yet they managed to crawl into the engine, where Casey found them after they were thrown from the engine and plastered onto the front of of the car, which made her trunk stink.



Is that better? Understand now?

Quote:
Originally Posted by snap4
I vote this the most creative post of the day, anyone else?

Quote:
Originally Posted by forensicnut
And their names were Chip and Dale and they were singing the Chip and Dale theme song.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by WinnieLeigh7
That's chipmunks now, don't get everyone confused

Quote:
Originally Posted by ?noanswer
There were no squirrels, except as a figment of Casey's imagination. JMO

Quote:
Originally Posted by SayWHAT?
But did the imaginary squirrels have a concussion? Perhaps a large cut behind their wittle ears?

Quote:
Originally Posted by msgatorslayer
I've been gone all day but it gets my vote.
The story is so good - an Anthony could have wrote it, lmao.



Ok, so I should have let someone else try this, bringing over posts from the morning thread thing, because I am a novice, LOL beacuase, I ended up putting all of these posts right back on the morning thread somehow, so this is my second shot at this. Hope it worked, and I have to go soon and just wanted to say...Thanks to all the inquiring, imaginative, and humorous minds on here. You are always so interesting that I am now addicted to this site!! Have a great afternoon all
snap

:lol: :lol: OMG You get my vote too Winnie

[snap4]

more from the morning thread:lol: Winnie you kill me!!!!!!!

Sorry Winnie didn't know you had made it over here yet. I see you added to... the how the day started, Dang funny stuff!!

Have a great afternoon
snap

[forensicnut]

I thought she worked until April 06???

That's what I thought too. Caylee was born August 2005 and he said she quit when she had Caylee. Hmm....

If it was 2004, Casey would have been 18 years old and if I'm not mistaken, Florida drinking age is 21. So, she'd have to be doing her partying at people's houses.

[FrankieBones1]

He did, he said they mostly went to the movies.

Didn't Casey work for Kodak before she met Jesse? I know she was pregnant before she met him. Sounds like he really didn't know all there was to know about the disco queen.

[snap4]

:) Sometimes just have to replace the saddness with a lil' silly~ness for sanity purposes in situations like these

Agreed, and you are very good at it! Take a bow!:beer:

[FrankieBones1]

That's what I thought too. Caylee was born August 2005 and he said she quit when she had Caylee. Hmm....

If it was 2004, Casey would have been 18 years old and if I'm not mistaken, Florida drinking age is 21. So, she'd have to be doing her partying at people's houses.

Don't underage kids get fake ID's for the clubs and bars?

[WillowInFlight]

Didn't Casey work for Kodak before she met Jesse? I know she was pregnant before she met him. Sounds like he really didn't know all there was to know about the disco queen.

I think Casey played many roles depending on the situation at the time. I doubt anyone knows the real Casey including Casey herself. I think it's been a long time since she played her real self.

[WillowInFlight]

Don't underage kids get fake ID's for the clubs and bars?

I know I did a life time ago.

[num1barb]

I think Casey played many roles depending on the situation at the time. I doubt anyone knows the real Casey including Casey herself. I think it's been a long time since she played her real self.

ITA with you on this Willow.

[GrannyB]

Didn't Casey work for Kodak before she met Jesse? I know she was pregnant before she met him. Sounds like he really didn't know all there was to know about the disco queen.

He did take a DNA test. He must have met her right when she got pregnant or he wouldn't have needed to take a test? So if she quit Kodak before meeting Jesse it was close. Geeeez Why did they have to make this so confusing.

[msgatorslayer]

Thanks!~ Yes, his name is Mike Kozak.

I can't find the video but I did find something in the Sentinel.

Anthony's boss warns her about partying

In a deposition, Anthony's former boss at Kodak, Mike Kozak, said he once talked to her about her partying habits.

Kozak, who had a photo-imaging contract at Universal Orlando, told detectives that on one occasion he had told her that she can't manage people during the day and then go out partying at night.


Anthony worked there for a 5-to-6 month period in 2004-05, but left after giving birth to Caylee. She was in the manager-trainee program and Kozak said she got along with the crew, but she was young.

"We actually thought kind of highly of her,'' he said.

http://mobile.orlandosentinel.com/detail.jsp?key=168155&rc=top&full=1

Didn't earlier reports say she got fired in April of 2006? I thought that was the time originally given to LE when they inquired about her employment.

:eek:

[grammie/va]

Maps of Casey's cell phone pings.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1655021/detailed-cell-calls


Apologies if this was already posted.

[forensicnut]

If the tow truck driver opened the car door and smelled the odor, it obviously wasn't just in the trunk. And George smelled it will driving and had to keep the windows down. So....if it was from a decomposed body that had left fluids, the bacteria would continue to grow and the smell would continue to worse. Even until today, would be my guess.

If in fact it were an animal and that creature carcass, it would quit smelling when the thing completely decomposed.

So, I wonder why the trunk doesn't smell anymore? :shrug:

[GrannyB]

I think Casey played many roles depending on the situation at the time. I doubt anyone knows the real Casey including Casey herself. I think it's been a long time since she played her real self.

I wonder if Casey has a real self.:(

[dtviewer]

If the tow truck driver opened the car door and smelled the odor, it obviously wasn't just in the trunk. And George smelled it will driving and had to keep the windows down. So....if it was from a decomposed body that had left fluids, the bacteria would continue to grow and the smell would continue to worse. Even until today, would be my guess.

If in fact it were an animal and that creature carcass, it would quit smelling when the thing completely decomposed.

So, I wonder why the trunk doesn't smell anymore? :shrug:


Who said the trunk doesnt smell anymore???:shrug:

[WinnieLeigh7]

If the tow truck driver opened the car door and smelled the odor, it obviously wasn't just in the trunk. And George smelled it will driving and had to keep the windows down. So....if it was from a decomposed body that had left fluids, the bacteria would continue to grow and the smell would continue to worse. Even until today, would be my guess.

If in fact it were an animal and that creature carcass, it would quit smelling when the thing completely decomposed.

So, I wonder why the trunk doesn't smell anymore? :shrug:

Still trying?? :tongue:


When did it stop smelling exactly??

Cause I thought the smell was there when it was towed...

[WillowInFlight]

He did take a DNA test. He must have met her right when she got pregnant or he wouldn't have needed to take a test? So if she quit Kodak before meeting Jesse it was close. Geeeez Why did they have to make this so confusing.

I know, my head is spinning, where was she working when Jesse's dad babysat Caylee? Was that when she "became" the event coordinator? Now remember the girl that babysat Caylee until she was about 8 months old quit because she found out Casey wasn't working.

[CinTN]

So did the "King Sword of Zoro" bring us any Truth last night?:shrug:

He didnt enlighten me a bit... :read:

[forensicnut]

Don't underage kids get fake ID's for the clubs and bars?I know I did.

The drinking age in the state right next to the one I grew up in was only 18, when I was growing up. We'd just jump in the car and cross the state line. Never worried about drunk driving either, since it was no big thing back then. Our state changed to 21 in 1982, but I was grandfathered at age 19. Made it by 6 days!

I didn't think kids could get fake ID's anymore, but what do I know. I know my 4 teenagers couldn't get them. :shrug:

[snap4]

I have to go so that I can get something done around here like cleaning, supper, (you know all that stuff I should have been doing all day instead of reading all of the posts of the day) before my family blows a gasket. I have 45 min to get it all done...LOL wish me luck
bye
the clock is ticking
ticking for Caylee too:rose:
bye all see ya tomorrow

[dtviewer]

WHUT? Where on Earth did you get that?
Her boss liked her very much .. she was an excellent employee according to his statement. She was promoted and the ONLY thing he ever had to speak to her about was being too friendly with her subordinates... She was let go for job abandonment. Very shortly after Caylee was born... she just stopped coming to work.


Umm, Frankie got that from the statement from her boss where he states that he had to talk to her about her partying when she had to work during the day.

Where on earth did you get that the ONLY thing he had to talk to her about was being too friendly with employess?

[GrannyB]

I know, my head is spinning, where was she working when Jesse's dad babysat Caylee? Was that when she "became" the event coordinator? Now remember the girl that babysat Caylee until she was about 8 months old quit because she found out Casey wasn't working.

I wondered about that cause Jesse's dad said Caylee was at their house for babysitting the first year of her life. Said his office was there and another son was babysitting. I do tend to believe Jesse and his family so it just another question to add to the list.

[FrankieBones1]

He did take a DNA test. He must have met her right when she got pregnant or he wouldn't have needed to take a test? So if she quit Kodak before meeting Jesse it was close. Geeeez Why did they have to make this so confusing.

If memory serves me right, Jesse's dad is the one that told him that Casey was pregnant. She was in her 7th or 8th month and she was telling Jesse that she was not pregnant. She would tell him she was having 'woman problems'. Jesse's Dad knew better.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I have to go so that I can get something done around here like cleaning, supper, (you know all that stuff I should have been doing all day instead of reading all of the posts of the day) before my family blows a gasket. I have 45 min to get it all done...LOL wish me luck
bye
the clock is ticking
ticking for Caylee too:rose:
bye all see ya tomorrow

Bye :seeya:

I gotta another 30 minutes of "work" before heading out to get all that done.....ughhh I gotta go get groceries too

[warrkat]

He did take a DNA test. He must have met her right when she got pregnant or he wouldn't have needed to take a test? So if she quit Kodak before meeting Jesse it was close. Geeeez Why did they have to make this so confusing.

Can't begin to find a link for this, but I'm positive I either read or heard on a cablenews show that the two of them broke up, she got pregnant by somebody else, and then they got back together for a brief time.
Remember? Jesse's dad said that when she started coming to their house again, he noticed that she was pregnant, but she denied it.... said that she had a female problem.

[msgatorslayer]

I know, my head is spinning, where was she working when Jesse's dad babysat Caylee? Was that when she "became" the event coordinator? Now remember the girl that babysat Caylee until she was about 8 months old quit because she found out Casey wasn't working.

I'd like to know what happened with Casey that she decided not to go back to 'real work'. Did she have some sort of mentally weird breakdown? Or was it just self serving and she felt she didn't have to. The girl worked pretty hard at not working. And for 3 years!!!!:confused:

[WillowInFlight]

If memory serves me right, Jesse's dad is the one that told him that Casey was pregnant. She was in her 7th or 8th month and she was telling Jesse that she was not pregnant. She would tell him she was having 'woman problems'. Jesse's Dad knew better.

Yep, Jesse's dad told Jesse and Rick told Cindy.

[FrankieBones1]

I know, my head is spinning, where was she working when Jesse's dad babysat Caylee? Was that when she "became" the event coordinator? Now remember the girl that babysat Caylee until she was about 8 months old quit because she found out Casey wasn't working.
Yes, that girl's police interview in in the doc dump. I felt really bad for her. She really thought that Casey needed a sitter because she was a single mom and working. She wasn't please when she found out otherwise. Her name is Brittany.

[Joan Weiss]

LOL. Your bus runs faster than mine.

Question: I don't know if it matters at all, but do we know why Casey got fired from Universal (or Kodak, or whatever)?Here's her ex-boss' LE interview from Universal. He liked her, he put her in management training. He had to tell her she couldn't party all night with the people she was managing. She requested the Kodak job after she told him she was pregnant. Then she simply abandoned her job, so that's why she got fired.

Just click on the first page, and it'll come up bigger.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608mikekozak/indexGallery.htm

[GrannyB]

Can't begin to find a link for this, but I'm positive I either read or heard on a cablenews show that the two of them broke up, she got pregnant by somebody else, and then they got back together for a brief time.
Remember? Jesse's dad said that when she started coming to their house again, he noticed that she was pregnant, but she denied it.... said that she had a female problem.

Now that you mentioned it I do remember it. Don't know if I can find it again but I know you're right.

[forensicnut]

Still trying?? :tongue:


When did it stop smelling exactly??

Cause I thought the smell was there when it was towed...

I know....I'll beat a topic to death, lOL.

I thought Cindy has said over and over and over that the trunk had "NO SMELL. NO SMELL!" So I guess I just assumed that we would have still been hearing about it if it was now smelling from blocks away.

If I believe that Caylee was in the trunk then I'd also have to believe that Casey in the Devil in desiqner shades and walking amongst us. That is a terrible and bone chilling thought that I don't like to think about. I know how much my young daughter absolutely loves and cherishes her two small children, so I'm having a harder time than most people with believing Casey just flat out murdered her in cold blood and let her rot in the trunk. God,what a terrible thought.

Even it if was a accident, you still have to be downright evil to put your beloved child in your damn car trunk!

[forensicnut]

Yes, that girl's police interview in in the doc dump. I felt really bad for her. She really thought that Casey needed a sitter because she was a single mom and working. She wasn't please when she found out otherwise. Her name is Brittany.

I thought it was Lauren. Wow, I'm really losing it with all these players!

[crymeariver2006]

He did, he said they mostly went to the movies.


The operative word being "they".

I don't think Jesse knew what Casey was doing when she wasn't around him.

[desmom]

Didn't earlier reports say she got fired in April of 2006? I thought that was the time originally given to LE when they inquired about her employment.

:eek:



IIRC, Cindy said at the bond hearing, they did not hold her job for her when she was on maternity leave or something. She did return to work at Universal Studios but in another position per Cindy.....

jmo under the influence of NyQuil...

[GrannyB]

I know....I'll beat a topic to death, lOL.

I thought Cindy has said over and over and over that the trunk had "NO SMELL. NO SMELL!" So I guess I just assumed that we would have still been hearing about it if it was now smelling from blocks away.

If I believe that Caylee was in the trunk then I'd also have to believe that Casey in the Devil in desiqner shades and walking amongst us. That is a terrible and bone chilling thought that I don't like to think about. I know how much my young daughter absolutely loves and cherishes her two small children, so I'm having a harder time than most people with believing Casey just flat out murdered her in cold blood and let her rot in the trunk. God,what a terrible thought.

Even it if was a accident, you still have to be downright evil to put your beloved child in your damn car trunk!

Remember Cindy's 3rd 911 call. The car smells like a dead body,

[forensicnut]

Remember Cindy's 3rd 911 call. The car smells like a dead body,Yes.....a damn dead body. Since she said that herself, I wonder why she is now choosing to say it was rotten pizza. I can only take a guess and assume it's a defense mechanism (denial) to deal with the pain. :shrug:

[trich]

I thought Jesse said she didn't party back then?


IMO she had everybody fooled....except for those
that partyed with her.

[mickeymb35]

Question: I don't know if it matters at all, but do we know why Casey got fired from Universal (or Kodak, or whatever)?

My guess is that she was stealing money. JMO.

I hope Caylee is found soon and gets the justice she deserves.

[crymeariver2006]

So did the "King Sword of Zoro" bring us any Truth last night?:shrug:

He didnt enlighten me a bit... :read:


Of all the people in this sordid case that you choose to be sarcastic about.....

:rolleyes:

[Dogmatic]

I'd like to know what happened with Casey that she decided not to go back to 'real work'. Did she have some sort of mentally weird breakdown? Or was it just self serving and she felt she didn't have to. The girl worked pretty hard at not working. And for 3 years!!!!:confused:


two years is a long time to fool people that you have a job, when you don't.

She was either working for under the table money or something illegal like escorting, running drugs, or selling drugs. JMHO, of course

[WinnieLeigh7]

I know....I'll beat a topic to death, lOL.

I thought Cindy has said over and over and over that the trunk had "NO SMELL. NO SMELL!" So I guess I just assumed that we would have still been hearing about it if it was now smelling from blocks away.

If I believe that Caylee was in the trunk then I'd also have to believe that Casey in the Devil in desiqner shades and walking amongst us. That is a terrible and bone chilling thought that I don't like to think about. I know how much my young daughter absolutely loves and cherishes her two small children, so I'm having a harder time than most people with believing Casey just flat out murdered her in cold blood and let her rot in the trunk. God,what a terrible thought.

Even it if was a accident, you still have to be downright evil to put your beloved child in your damn car trunk!



So, exactly what forensic's are you nuts about??

**here comes pep talk LOL**

Because you know, while I agree, as sad as it is, reality is, there are people like this walking amoung us.

I wish there wasn't, most people don't want to 'think' about this kind of thing happening, but unfortunately it does.

to put on the big ol' sunglasses and shade yourself from the truth...well that's kinda stepping on Anthony's toes, isn't it?? They have that plan of 'denial' copyrighted by now! ;)

Seriously though, to put up your blinders to such a reality, because you want to 'believe' it to not happen, could very well be reason enough that some of these things are 'gotten away with' (not you, as in just you, just speaking in general).

For example...you always hear 'hindsight is 20/20'

The case that I was involved in helping with (Brandi Laurent)...

'after' the fact so many people were able to say "I heard this" "I saw this", etc. etc.
but they didn't want to believe something so horrible could happen in their lil' town...

It did and had some of these people took of those blinders, spoke up sooner, not be afraid that they were "over reacting", not be embarrassed to 'meddle' a lil (is it really meddling when you hear your neighbors screaming anyway??)....
if they would have followed their reasonable instinct...well who knows...

maybe she would have been killed anyway, but at least it wouldn't have drug out of months (like this one is)


Just like had the Anthony's came to bat sooner...
well "who knows"...


That'll be $200 for this session :)

[desmom]

I thought it was Lauren. Wow, I'm really losing it with all these players!


Lauren is the one that watched Caylee over an 8 month period. Her interview begins on page 1371 of the 9/23/08 document dump. Brittany is a school friend and neighbor. Her interview begins on page 1242 of the 9/23/08 document dump.

jmo

[oldbluesmith]

The operative word being "they".

I don't think Jesse knew what Casey was doing when she wasn't around him.
ITA, after Jesse took Casey home, even if he stayed for a while, I think she got up and left to go party since her parents don't seem to know her where abouts at times either. She probably crawled out her window at home and her car was not normally in the garage so she could drive away without normally waking the family. I think she got used to leaving Caylee alone in her bed at night and her habits didn't change after June 16th, 2008. She left Caylee alone at night while she partied all night. I also have looked at some calendar items about the cell phone calls and it seems she doesn't sleep at night. She seems to sleep in the mornings and leave around 9 AM thru noon. JMHO

[WillowInFlight]

Yes.....a damn dead body. Since she said that herself, I wonder why she is now choosing to say it was rotten pizza. I can only take a guess and assume it's a defense mechanism (denial) to deal with the pain. :shrug:

No she said a dead body in the damn car.

[Joan Weiss]

Who said the trunk doesnt smell anymore???:shrug:Nobody. LE still has the car, and they're not talking. imo

[WillowInFlight]

Of all the people in this sordid case that you choose to be sarcastic about.....

:rolleyes:

I was thinking the same thing.

[trich]

two years is a long time to fool people that you have a job, when you don't.

She was either working for under the table money or something illegal like escorting, running drugs, or selling drugs. JMHO, of course



Works I guess when you are stealing from your family and friends and using your mom's credit cards.
Until it all catches up to ya.

[oldbluesmith]

Nobody. LE still has the car, and they're not talking. imoI wonder, if and when Orlando proscutors come to trial, IF the prosecutors will be bringing that foul smelling trunk into the courtroom? or just have the jury visit it? Just an idea and JMHO

[day2day]

No she said a dead body in the damn car.

Yes-and she admitted to Yuri that she HAD smelled a dead body (and either she had or hadn't smelled a burned body). THAT bugs me. WHY o WHY would she even mention that?!
And since we know that she knows what a dead body smells like -and we know she KNOWS Casey is alive...why o WHY did she wash the pants-when she KNOWS Caylee is gone?

imo..

[WinnieLeigh7]

Niters all :seeya:
(for now anyway)...
gotta go start job # 2, 3, 4, 5.....
(mommy, housekeeper, financial advisor, nurse, chef, etc. etc.)

[Rayosunshine]

I wonder if Casey has a real self.:(

That is an excellent thought, GrannyB.

[Regina.Lampert]

Maps of Casey's cell phone pings.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1655021/detailed-cell-calls


Apologies if this was already posted.


Anybody know what the heck we're supposed to be viewing here? I can't get the map to work right. Help.

[WillowInFlight]

Yes-and she admitted to Yuri that she HAD smelled a dead body (and either she had or hadn't smelled a burned body). THAT bugs me. WHY o WHY would she even mention that?!
And since we know that she knows what a dead body smells like -and we know she KNOWS Casey is alive...why o WHY did she wash the pants-when she KNOWS Caylee is gone?

imo..

At the point she had to have had an idea it MIGHT have been Caylee, why would she refer to her as a damn dead body?:mad:

[kakax]

http://floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/BREAKINGNEWS/80930003/1086

Probably not related but skeletal remains were found in Titusville, FL. It isn't that far from Orlando...checking the distance now.

[day2day]

Of all the people in this sordid case that you choose to be sarcastic about.....

:rolleyes:

ITA. One of the ONLY people who really CARES about this littleone. :punch:

[trich]

Even it if was a accident, you still have to be downright evil to put your beloved child in your damn car trunk!




EVIL is the key word here.

[forensicnut]

So, exactly what forensic's are you nuts about??

**here comes pep talk LOL**

Because you know, while I agree, as sad as it is, reality is, there are people like this walking amoung us.

I wish there wasn't, most people don't want to 'think' about this kind of thing happening, but unfortunately it does.

to put on the big ol' sunglasses and shade yourself from the truth...well that's kinda stepping on Anthony's toes, isn't it?? They have that plan of 'denial' copyrighted by now! ;)

Seriously though, to put up your blinders to such a reality, because you want to 'believe' it to not happen, could very well be reason enough that some of these things are 'gotten away with' (not you, as in just you, just speaking in general).

For example...you always hear 'hindsight is 20/20'

The case that I was involved in helping with (Brandi Laurent)...

'after' the fact so many people were able to say "I heard this" "I saw this", etc. etc.
but they didn't want to believe something so horrible could happen in their lil' town...

It did and had some of these people took of those blinders, spoke up sooner, not be afraid that they were "over reacting", not be embarrassed to 'meddle' a lil (is it really meddling when you hear your neighbors screaming anyway??)....
if they would have followed their reasonable instinct...well who knows...

maybe she would have been killed anyway, but at least it wouldn't have drug out of months (like this one is)


Just like had the Anthony's came to bat sooner...
well "who knows"...


That'll be $200 for this session :) That sounds like my teenager.....it's all about the money, LOL.

I know, I know....you're probably right. She is a cold hearted, evil, lying murderess. She most likely murdered her daughter to spite her Mother. Even if it was an accident, she still is sick to do what she did and continues to do.

I will still sit here with my blinders on and hope that baby is alive. Until she's found, I have to hold on to a bit. A teeny, tiny, itty, bitty ray of hope.

Yes, Doctor....I'll be back for our next session. Same time, next week.:biggrin:

[kakax]

http://floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/BREAKINGNEWS/80930003/1086

Probably not related but skeletal remains were found in Titusville, FL. It isn't that far from Orlando...checking the distance now.


38 miles...

[forensicnut]

No she said a dead body in the damn car.

I stand corrected.

[desmom]

http://floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/BREAKINGNEWS/80930003/1086

Probably not related but skeletal remains were found in Titusville, FL. It isn't that far from Orlando...checking the distance now.

I saw this http://www.local6.com/news/17587744/detail.html earlier today. The skull looks to big to be that of a child. jmo

[day2day]

At the point she had to have had an idea it MIGHT have been Caylee, why would she refer to her as a damn dead body?:mad:

Sad isn't it. And admitting that she KNOWS what a dead body smells like was a mistake on her part. IMO. IF you KNOW what a dead body smells like and your grandaughter is missing-you obviously DON'T go taking knives and clothes out of the car to wash them. SHE knew better. IMO -obstruction.

[MyrDawn]

I know....I'll beat a topic to death, lOL.

I thought Cindy has said over and over and over that the trunk had "NO SMELL. NO SMELL!" So I guess I just assumed that we would have still been hearing about it if it was now smelling from blocks away.

If I believe that Caylee was in the trunk then I'd also have to believe that Casey in the Devil in desiqner shades and walking amongst us. That is a terrible and bone chilling thought that I don't like to think about. I know how much my young daughter absolutely loves and cherishes her two small children, so I'm having a harder time than most people with believing Casey just flat out murdered her in cold blood and let her rot in the trunk. God,what a terrible thought.

Even it if was a accident, you still have to be downright evil to put your beloved child in your damn car trunk!

I love and cherish my children, and hard as it is to believe a mother would do that to her child, there are a lot of other mothers that have murdered their children.

Cindy first said it smelled like a "dead body in the damn car", and then she changed it to the smell was from old pizza and maggots, and then she denied it ever had a foul smell. She's changed her story too many times for me to believe any of them.

[Rayosunshine]

Yes.....a damn dead body. Since she said that herself, I wonder why she is now choosing to say it was rotten pizza. I can only take a guess and assume it's a defense mechanism (denial) to deal with the pain. :shrug:

thought she said a dead body in the damn car.

[day2day]

I saw this http://www.local6.com/news/17587744/detail.html earlier today. The skull looks to big to be that of a child. jmo

Thanks for the link. How very sad :(..

[oldbluesmith]

38 miles...I would estimate that to be about 3 gallons of gas round trip. JMHO

[grammie/va]

Anybody know what the heck we're supposed to be viewing here? I can't get the map to work right. Help.

If you scroll down some it is triangulation of casey cell pings, using longitude and latitude to show where she was at on the date and time shown.

[day2day]

I love and cherish my children, and hard as it is to believe a mother would do that to her child, there are a lot of other mothers that have murdered their children.

Cindy first said it smelled like a "dead body in the damn car", and then she changed it to the smell was from old pizza and maggots, and then she denied it ever had a foul smell. She's changed her story too many times for me to believe any of them.

Then the people who owe the tow yard PUT the dead body in her trunk ;)...

[trich]

http://floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/BREAKINGNEWS/80930003/1086

Probably not related but skeletal remains were found in Titusville, FL. It isn't that far from Orlando...checking the distance now.


You would think they could determine whether the skull came from an adult or a child by looking at it.
But then maybe I watch too much tv....for instance BONES!:shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

I saw this http://www.local6.com/news/17587744/detail.html earlier today. The skull looks to big to be that of a child. jmo

Looks like a big chunk of bone missing from the skull. Poss. GSW to the face, possible. Seems the skull is the only thing they found. I couldn't tell size from the shot, but a child's skull is fair-sized.

[Rayosunshine]

Sad isn't it. And admitting that she KNOWS what a dead body smells like was a mistake on her part. IMO. IF you KNOW what a dead body smells like and your grandaughter is missing-you obviously DON'T go taking knives and clothes out of the car to wash them. SHE knew better. IMO -obstruction.

Agreed, and whether she knew it or not, she was covering something up.

[MyrDawn]

Then the people who owe the tow yard PUT the dead body in her trunk ;)...

:lol: Yep, Jimmy Hoffa's body. It started stinking after it thawed out.
:D

[kakax]

I saw this http://www.local6.com/news/17587744/detail.html earlier today. The skull looks to big to be that of a child. jmo

It sure does. I hope someone's family is able to put this person to rest. :(

[Texas48]

:seeya: I'm here! I'm here..finally managed to "squirrel crawl" over here.

[beckyj]

If you scroll down some it is triangulation of casey cell pings, using longitude and latitude to show where she was at on the date and time shown.

Wonder if she was in Titusville.

[Texas48]

I don't think it was her boss, seems like it was one of the red haired reporters that are on NG.

:shrug: I belive you are right. That is how I remember it as well.

[day2day]

:lol: Yep, Jimmy Hoffa's body. It started stinking after it thawed out.
:D

LOL-well there you have it!! Seriously i think that Cindy just tosses lies out there hoping one of them will stick.

jmo

[MyrDawn]

You would think they could determine whether the skull came from an adult or a child by looking at it.
But then maybe I watch too much tv....for instance BONES!:shrug:

Since it says "There was no word on if the skull belonged to a man or woman" I presume they mean it's an adult's skull.
http://www.local6.com/news/17587744/detail.html

[day2day]

Agreed, and whether she knew it or not, she was covering something up.

If I was a detective and I was interviewing her-when she admitted she knew what a dead body smelled like-i would have right then asked her WHY she destroyed that evidence. :(

jmo

[Texas48]

How it all began...

http://media.photobucket.com/image/squirrels/kosmicdancer77/squirrels.jpg


http://media.photobucket.com/image/squirrels/goingladybuggy/squirrels.jpg


http://media.photobucket.com/image/squirrels/Volksgirl26/squirrels.jpg Great. TY
for the links

[MyrDawn]

LOL-well there you have it!! Seriously i think that Cindy just tosses lies out there hoping one of them will stick.

jmo

Yep, it reminds me of someone else that does the same thing. Let's see now...who is that...hmmm...Oh YEAH, Casey! :rolleyes:

[Texas48]

I thought Jesse said she didn't party back then? I do not think Jesse knew her as well as he thought he did. He and his family seemed fairly confused as to how she turned into what she has become now. JMO

[ccnsd]

LOL. Your bus runs faster than mine.

Question: I don't know if it matters at all, but do we know why Casey got fired from Universal (or Kodak, or whatever)?

Mike Kozak said she basicly disappeared. Kodak filed termination papers for job abandonment when colorvision took over Kodak. Casey was suppose to go to a seminar to update her job application during the transition... http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/18%20Mike%20Kozak%20Transcript.pdf

[Texas48]

:) Sometimes just have to replace the saddness with a lil' silly~ness for sanity purposes in situations like these OMG Winnie..I have hurt myself over these squirrels..finally got my laughter under control...squirrel crawled over here and then I see this..I see you need a wig???? Squirrel hair is available. Gotta Stop..Gotta stop.

[oldbluesmith]

Since it says "There was no word on if the skull belonged to a man or woman" I presume they mean it's an adult's skull.
http://www.local6.com/news/17587744/detail.html
Since this article was not quoting anyone in particular:

Quote of the article:

"Some boys roaming a wooded area in Central Florida found a human skull and kept it secret for a week before turning it in to police.

The children found the skull in the woods near North Titusville.

When someone alerted the authorities of its existence, the boys then showed police where the skull was located.

There was no word on if the skull belonged to a man or woman.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story."

I can only presume since the author was not noted on the article and no one was claiming to quote LE, that this is someones misstatement and should have been male or female instead of man or woman. I believe newspeople get it wrong a great deal of the time. JMHO from reading the news for about 50 years. JMHO

[happy2bme]

I found this and i just had to share...Please look at post #5 (avatar)

lmao

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72327 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72327)

[SavannahStar]

I

If I'd had any clue this was going to be this screwed up I would have kept better records. As it is I have a folder with so many links it take hours to find what I'm looking for.


Oh how true, Granny! I am SO disorganized when it comes to this case. :( Little did we know, back then, huh?

[Joan Weiss]

Looks like a big chunk of bone missing from the skull. Poss. GSW to the face, possible. Seems the skull is the only thing they found. I couldn't tell size from the shot, but a child's skull is fair-sized.Agreed. Somehow I don't think this is it, though. imo

[SavannahStar]

If the tow truck driver opened the car door and smelled the odor, it obviously wasn't just in the trunk. And George smelled it will driving and had to keep the windows down. So....if it was from a decomposed body that had left fluids, the bacteria would continue to grow and the smell would continue to worse. Even until today, would be my guess.

If in fact it were an animal and that creature carcass, it would quit smelling when the thing completely decomposed.

So, I wonder why the trunk doesn't smell anymore? :shrug:

Your question is a good one. I've heard often enough you can NEVER get rid of the smell of decomp.

Oh and HI GIRL! :seeya:

[day2day]

Where is the link that tells about her "burned" body comment??? This is intresting. I dont thinkI have heard that before now.

it is in her videotaped testimony- second part. Just a second and i will find you a link-i have to help my littleone with her sick chicken :(...

[SavannahStar]

Yes.....a damn dead body. Since she said that herself, I wonder why she is now choosing to say it was rotten pizza. I can only take a guess and assume it's a defense mechanism (denial) to deal with the pain. :shrug:


I agree with that 100%. (I don't think many others on here do, however.)

[SavannahStar]

So did the "King Sword of Zoro" bring us any Truth last night?:shrug:

He didnt enlighten me a bit...

Of all the people in this sordid case that you choose to be sarcastic about.....

:rolleyes:

Thank you for saying that. I was thinking it. :(

[Regina.Lampert]

If you scroll down some it is triangulation of casey cell pings, using longitude and latitude to show where she was at on the date and time shown.

Thank yooooooo...... :seeya:

[oldbluesmith]

Your question is a good one. I've heard often enough you can NEVER get rid of the smell of decomp.

Oh and HI GIRL! :seeya:Actually you can use wintergreen oil to get rid of bad smells. I had a friend in Atlanta, GA who was purchasing a new home and while it was being build a cat climbed into the tub inclosure after the tub was in place and died out of reach. The builder used wintergreen oil on a cotton ball to kill the smell. JMHO Sorry about OT, but everyone was claiming you can't get rid of the smell and I know it can be over come it. My parents also used it when a mouse climbed into one of their boats and died under a welded seat on an aluminum boat. It worked. JMHO

[SavannahStar]

http://floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080930/BREAKINGNEWS/80930003/1086

Probably not related but skeletal remains were found in Titusville, FL. It isn't that far from Orlando...checking the distance now.

On the Atlantic coast right by Cape Canaveral, no not far from Orlando at all.

[Rayosunshine]

Wonder if she was in Titusville.

Any phone pings in that area, I wonder.

[Rayosunshine]

it is in her videotaped testimony- second part. Just a second and i will find you a link-i have to help my littleone with her sick chicken :(...

Aw, so sad.

[SavannahStar]

Actually you can use wintergreen oil to get rid of bad smells. I had a friend in Atlanta, GA who was purchasing a new home and while it was being build a cat climbed into the tub inclosure after the tub was in place and died out of reach. The builder used wintergreen oil on a cotton ball to kill the smell. JMHO Sorry about OT, but everyone was claiming you can't get rid of the smell and I know it can be over come it. My parents also used it when a mouse climbed into one of their boats and died under a welded seat on an aluminum boat. It worked. JMHO

That's animal decomp though, from what I have HEARD (and I have no first-hand experience), there is nothing in the world like human decomp and it is almost impossible to get rid of. IIRC, some posters here in the past have talked about this, with some examples. :shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

Was the info on the Today Show covered on the boards today?

[Texas48]

I know, my head is spinning, where was she working when Jesse's dad babysat Caylee? Was that when she "became" the event coordinator? Now remember the girl that babysat Caylee until she was about 8 months old quit because she found out Casey wasn't working.

This is what has me tooooooo confused. Casey drops Caylee off at babysitter and ges WHERE? Do you just drive around for 8 hors..go to the mall and walk around for 8 hours..Where does one go to kill 8 hours?Jesse's family and her friend and her mother was keeping this baby but where was she at? Looks like someone that knew her could answer that question,

[cassidy]

Was the info on the Today Show covered on the boards today?

I didn't see it. Care to share?

[Texas48]

Now that you mentioned it I do remember it. Don't know if I can find it again but I know you're right. It was Jesse on the Geraldo show and I believe Jesse's dad sated as much on NG. I'm looking also.

[desmom]

Was the info on the Today Show covered on the boards today?

Missed it! Anything new? TIA

[Texas48]

So, exactly what forensic's are you nuts about??

**here comes pep talk LOL**

Because you know, while I agree, as sad as it is, reality is, there are people like this walking amoung us.

I wish there wasn't, most people don't want to 'think' about this kind of thing happening, but unfortunately it does.

to put on the big ol' sunglasses and shade yourself from the truth...well that's kinda stepping on Anthony's toes, isn't it?? They have that plan of 'denial' copyrighted by now! ;)

Seriously though, to put up your blinders to such a reality, because you want to 'believe' it to not happen, could very well be reason enough that some of these things are 'gotten away with' (not you, as in just you, just speaking in general).

For example...you always hear 'hindsight is 20/20'

The case that I was involved in helping with (Brandi Laurent)...

'after' the fact so many people were able to say "I heard this" "I saw this", etc. etc.
but they didn't want to believe something so horrible could happen in their lil' town...

It did and had some of these people took of those blinders, spoke up sooner, not be afraid that they were "over reacting", not be embarrassed to 'meddle' a lil (is it really meddling when you hear your neighbors screaming anyway??)....
if they would have followed their reasonable instinct...well who knows...

maybe she would have been killed anyway, but at least it wouldn't have drug out of months (like this one is)


Just like had the Anthony's came to bat sooner...
well "who knows"...


That'll be $200 for this session :) Will you take CA credit Card?

[MyrDawn]

If the tow truck driver opened the car door and smelled the odor, it obviously wasn't just in the trunk. And George smelled it will driving and had to keep the windows down. So....if it was from a decomposed body that had left fluids, the bacteria would continue to grow and the smell would continue to worse. Even until today, would be my guess.

If in fact it were an animal and that creature carcass, it would quit smelling when the thing completely decomposed.

So, I wonder why the trunk doesn't smell anymore? :shrug:

That's very true about an animal quitting smelling. We had a squirrel get into our attic and he fell down into a wall and died there. that room smelled horrible. By the time the exterminators got here several days later, it had quit stinking.

[day2day]

Aw, so sad.

Thanks! She loves her little animals..and he just isn't doing well. I gave him some sugar water and i think he will be ok..:) Mom/Vet ..lol
Off to find the link for Cindy's interview..

[bungeebaby]

Was the info on the Today Show covered on the boards today?

I think so - something about a text message she sent to her bf and it was about Caylee "passing out", i.e. going into a dead sleep. General consensus was that all of us that have had kids have used this phrase before - like "my kid was so tired, she just passed out on the couch". So it was basically ignored. :shrug:

[desmom]

This is what has me tooooooo confused. Casey drops Caylee off at babysitter and ges WHERE? Do you just drive around for 8 hors..go to the mall and walk around for 8 hours..Where does one go to kill 8 hours?Jesse's family and her friend and her mother was keeping this baby but where was she at? Looks like someone that knew her could answer that question,

And what is up with Casey's handwritten statement to LE - Page 28 of the 400 page document dump:

"On Monday, June 9, 2008, between 9 a.m. and 1 p.m., I, Casey Anthony, took my daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony, to her nanny's apartment."

What is up with the 4 hour time span and the wrong date?

I know, I know, Lee explained it was Cindy that started with the June 8 as being the last day she saw Caylee, but I say BS! IMO, it would be embedded in a mother's heart and memory the day her daughter disappeared. It still does not explain a 4 hour time span.

[day2day]

Where is the link that tells about her "burned" body comment??? This is intresting. I dont thinkI have heard that before now.

here is a link to cindy's testimony. I believe it is in part 2.
:seeya:]
http://www.wesh.com/news/17564904/detail.html

[summer4meplz]

And what is up with Casey's handwritten statement to LE - Page 28 of the 400 page document dump:

"On Monday, June 9, 2008, between 9 a.m. and 1 p.m., I, Casey Anthony, took my daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony, to her nanny's apartment."

What is up with the 4 hour time span and the wrong date?

I know, I know, Lee explained it was Cindy that started with the June 8 as being the last day she saw Caylee, but I say BS! IMO, it would be embedded in a mother's heart and memory the day her daughter disappeared. It still does not explain a 4 hour time span.


someone else noted that tonyl has class from 9 to 1....maybe that's the tiny bit of truth in that statement...?

[steffaroob4]

Maps of Casey's cell phone pings.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1655021/detailed-cell-calls


Apologies if this was already posted.

I notice she is hitting on several different towers while she is at home, some of these people are assuming she is moving, but with us just having a tower location of a lot of these can just be calls from home.
I just wanted to pass that along, if the tower is close to the home, she might be at home.

[desmom]

Has this been posted?

Anthonys Agree To Move Prayer Vigils To Church
http://www.wesh.com/news/17588432/detail.html

Cindy and George Anthony attended a county commissioners meeting Tuesday evening where their neighbors discussed their grievances with the protesters in their neighborhood.

The meeting concluded with the Anthonys agreeing to hold their weekly prayer vigils at a church, instead of at their house.

[nana6]

I know I did.

The drinking age in the state right next to the one I grew up in was only 18, when I was growing up. We'd just jump in the car and cross the state line. Never worried about drunk driving either, since it was no big thing back then. Our state changed to 21 in 1982, but I was grandfathered at age 19. Made it by 6 days!

I didn't think kids could get fake ID's anymore, but what do I know. I know my 4 teenagers couldn't get them. :shrug:

Our kids, two girls got them easily back in 94 and 97. There was a kid who went nameless at Univ.of Wisconsin. He set up a big business making fake id's back then. No one ever knew who he was. You had to send money to a post office box for a certain amount and then you would get your id I hear he made a fortune. I am not sure what the kids do these days

[desmom]

I notice she is hitting on several different towers while she is at home, some of these people are assuming she is moving, but with us just having a tower location of a lot of these can just be calls from home.
I just wanted to pass that along, if the tower is close to the home, she might be at home.

Someone explained during the Trenton Duckett investigation, a phone call can be within a 5 mile radius of the cell tower. If the tower was busy, the call could bounce to the next closest tower.

With as fast as technology changes, this may not be true any longer.

jmo

[Joan Weiss]

I do not think Jesse knew her as well as he thought he did. He and his family seemed fairly confused as to how she turned into what she has become now. JMOI think his dad didn't know, but Jessie said she was a "chameleon" and a "pathological liar."

imo

[desmom]

Anthony Protesters, Fights Costing $4,000-A-Week, Sheriff Says

http://www.local6.com/news/17593427/detail.html

[nana6]

I agree with that 100%. (I don't think many others on here do, however.)

ITA I think the very minute she was told that Caylee was missing she completely changed her thought process to pizza and not a dead body. Her mind just could not go there. IMO

[day2day]

Yep, it reminds me of someone else that does the same thing. Let's see now...who is that...hmmm...Oh YEAH, Casey! :rolleyes:

Clint Van Zant (fbi profiler) said it best. He said the nut doesn't fall too far from the tree..:lol:

[steffaroob4]

I saw this http://www.local6.com/news/17587744/detail.html earlier today. The skull looks to big to be that of a child. jmo

I am shocked to see the actual skull, FL doesn't allow the media to use pictures human remains. (maybe it is a law that has to do with evidence already collected by LE, just seems weird to see skull like that.) I remember that from the AMW show about the sereal killer in the North Port area of Florida.

[Texas48]

That's animal decomp though, from what I have HEARD (and I have no first-hand experience), there is nothing in the world like human decomp and it is almost impossible to get rid of. IIRC, some posters here in the past have talked about this, with some examples. :shrug: It is very hard to get the smell out of anything. Where ever the fluid has leaked onto such as a mattress/carpet/wood flooring....Everthing has to be thrown out..Wood flooring that any fluid has leaked on has to be completely torn out where ever the liquid has seeped. ANYTHING the fluid has touched has to be removed and disgarded. Suppose the body decomp in a room..there is a machine with filters (some carbon) and this runs in the room w/windows open untill the smell is gone. There is also cleaning liquids (strong) that are used. Pretty much the smell just does Go AWAY. JMO

[nana6]

Do I hear an AMEN from those who think like I do that this was NO accident? Never was. Anyone who had an accident would have called 911. There would be no reason not to. IMO In the beginning of this case whe there was alot of conversation about whether this could have been an accident. I too tried to look objectively but now, after all this time, and the behavior and lies told to LE, I believe this was not an accident at all. In fact, as time goes by and we are seeing more documents I am leaning toward murder 1.IMO of course!

[mosey2]

So did the "King Sword of Zoro" bring us any Truth last night?:shrug:

He didnt enlighten me a bit... :read:
The truth he spoke of was just the fact that he was defending himself and his son against the unfounded accusations of Cindy.

I find it refreshing, that here, we have a man who does not want to embed himself into this case, but rather deal with it as it pertains to his personal life.
FYI- "Sword of the King" is straight from the bible and means to do God's work on earth
"Zoro"? Where's that come from?

[kakax]

Has this been posted?

Anthonys Agree To Move Prayer Vigils To Church
http://www.wesh.com/news/17588432/detail.html

Cindy and George Anthony attended a county commissioners meeting Tuesday evening where their neighbors discussed their grievances with the protesters in their neighborhood.

The meeting concluded with the Anthonys agreeing to hold their weekly prayer vigils at a church, instead of at their house.

Finally!!! Thanks for posting the link!

[kitty1182]

Does anyone recall the date CA gave to Greta about when the bush was moved in the yard? TIA..

[Pruddennce]

This is what has me tooooooo confused. Casey drops Caylee off at babysitter and ges WHERE? Do you just drive around for 8 hors..go to the mall and walk around for 8 hours..Where does one go to kill 8 hours?Jesse's family and her friend and her mother was keeping this baby but where was she at? Looks like someone that knew her could answer that question,

thats the million dollar question:

Lauren, who watched caylee during her first 9 months, got a bit miffed at her when she found out she didnt have a job at Sports Authority and wouldnt babysit anymore. (just here and there).

Grund Sr said he broached the subject with her and right on the spot said she had a babysitter lined up...the date that happened, of course was April 06 when she didnt have a job anymore...or perhaps it was right before she 'disappeared' from her job and since she lied about a babysitter being lined up, decided NOT to return to work.

around that time Casey started cc'ing her parents on 'work emails' so she could go out at nite.

so that had a few days home covered during the week.

Lauren Gibbs stated in her LE interview that she never mentioned Z's name when she spoke to her after she got the text msg about Caylee missing. Casey told her 'she's ok' I spoke with her yesterday from a private #.

we dont know, so therefore we wonder 'what DID she do' on those days.....since her bogus 'work emails' couldnt cover every single nite.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[mosey2]

Do I hear an AMEN from those who think like I do that this was NO accident? Never was. Anyone who had an accident would have called 911. There would be no reason not to. IMO In the beginning of this case whe there was alot of conversation about whether this could have been an accident. I too tried to look objectively but now, after all this time, and the behavior and lies told to LE, I believe this was not an accident at all. In fact, as time goes by and we are seeing more documents I am leaning toward murder 1.IMO of course!ITA. Casey was planning this as early as March this year with her internet searches of missing children.

MOO

[spiritwolf46]

Good evening all. :seeya:

Slow day today? Did I miss anything at all this afternoon?

TIA!

:rose: For CAYLEE

[bluwaters]

Please light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to begin

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[nana6]

Does anyone recall the date CA gave to Greta about when the bush was moved in the yard? TIA..

Not sure but I would think LE would go back there and dig that whole yard up AGAIN

[day2day]

EAXCTLY....A you do not park it in the garage to "air" it out unless you are hiding something. Wonder if garage door was closed when Lee got there??

I doubt it. And IF it was they opened it QUICKLY. There is something else that really bothers me. None of them have mentioned the "fight" after Cindy came back from her visit. I hope that comes out SOON!
jmo

[shelbar53]

So did the "King Sword of Zoro" bring us any Truth last night?:shrug:

He didnt enlighten me a bit... :read:

:lol: I love your sense of humor

[desmom]

EAXCTLY....A you do not park it in the garage to "air" it out unless you are hiding something. Wonder if garage door was closed when Lee got there??


From Lee's handwritten statement, Page 32 of 400 page document dump....

"My sister Casey Anthony has been MIA for weeks, I assumed with her daughter Caylee Marie Anthony. I came to the house this evening to see my mother and found Casey's vehicle in the garage and no sign of anyone. Casey and my mother showed up and both acted as if they had been fighting about Caylee..."

Cindy did take Casey to a police substation to have Casey arrested. IMO, they would not have left the house open while everyone was gone.

I vote the garage door was closed when Lee arrived at the house. jmo

[nana6]

Good evening all. :seeya:

Slow day today? Did I miss anything at all this afternoon?

TIA!

:rose: For CAYLEE

Hi there Spirit, not much. Infact, it has been rather pleasant on the board. We will see what happens this evening. Evening seems to bring out the trouble!!

[steffaroob4]

Someone explained during the Trenton Duckett investigation, a phone call can be within a 5 mile radius of the cell tower. If the tower was busy, the call could bounce to the next closest tower.

With as fast as technology changes, this may not be true any longer.

jmo

Well, I have found at least 3 different towers that she is hitting on while at home. If you look at days with all the crazy texts, you can see she is using different owers within seconds of each other, there is no way she is driving around. It makes no sense that she is moving, it will be same towers for 10 texts, then different tower, then back to original tower. Phone companies probaly had to add an extra tower in area just for her calling habits.

[day2day]

thats the million dollar question:

Lauren, who watched caylee during her first 9 months, got a bit miffed at her when she found out she didnt have a job at Sports Authority and wouldnt babysit anymore. (just here and there).

Grund Sr said he broached the subject with her and right on the spot said she had a babysitter lined up...the date that happened, of course was April 06 when she didnt have a job anymore...or perhaps it was right before she 'disappeared' from her job and since she lied about a babysitter being lined up, decided NOT to return to work.

around that time Casey started cc'ing her parents on 'work emails' so she could go out at nite.

so that had a few days home covered during the week.

Lauren Gibbs stated in her LE interview that she never mentioned Z's name when she spoke to her after she got the text msg about Caylee missing. Casey told her 'she's ok' I spoke with her yesterday from a private #.

we dont know, so therefore we wonder 'what DID she do' on those days.....since her bogus 'work emails' couldnt cover every single nite.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


And most importantly-WHO was watching Caylee..when Casey was doing "whatever". Casey's words haunt me. When she said -she left her on those stairs many times. IF that is true -who did she leave her with?!

jmo

[kitty1182]

Not sure but I would think LE would go back there and dig that whole yard up AGAIN

I think the spot the bush was moved too, should be dug up...The day Casey got that shovel, she could have dug up the bush, put Caylee in the hole, put bush back in and cover with dirt..IMO

[mosey2]

EAXCTLY....A you do not park it in the garage to "air" it out unless you are hiding something. Wonder if garage door was closed when Lee got there??
Hola, Tree!!:seeya:I wonder if George backed it into the garage when he drove it in from the wrecking yard. I do think Cindy tried to clean up the car's stench.

[SavannahStar]

It is very hard to get the smell out of anything. Where ever the fluid has leaked onto such as a mattress/carpet/wood flooring....Everthing has to be thrown out..Wood flooring that any fluid has leaked on has to be completely torn out where ever the liquid has seeped. ANYTHING the fluid has touched has to be removed and disgarded. Suppose the body decomp in a room..there is a machine with filters (some carbon) and this runs in the room w/windows open untill the smell is gone. There is also cleaning liquids (strong) that are used. Pretty much the smell just does Go AWAY. JMO


Doesn't the last part of your post contradict the first part of your post? Maybe I'm reading it wrong. :shrug:

[spiritwolf46]

Hi there Spirit, not much. Infact, it has been rather pleasant on the board. We will see what happens this evening. Evening seems to bring out the trouble!!

Sigh...isn't it the truth! ;)

:rose:For Caylee

P.S. Wonder what BOMBSHELL NG has this eve?

[nana6]

I think the spot the bush was moved too, should be dug up...The day Casey got that shovel, she could have dug up the bush, put Caylee in the hole, put bush back in and cover with dirt..IMO

sure she could have

[FrankieBones1]

I thought it was Lauren. Wow, I'm really losing it with all these players!

She used more than one friend to look after Caylee. Not many, though.
Before the 15th of June, I would think that George and Cindy were the main sitters.

[SavannahStar]

Do I hear an AMEN from those who think like I do that this was NO accident? Never was. Anyone who had an accident would have called 911. There would be no reason not to. IMO In the beginning of this case whe there was alot of conversation about whether this could have been an accident. I too tried to look objectively but now, after all this time, and the behavior and lies told to LE, I believe this was not an accident at all. In fact, as time goes by and we are seeing more documents I am leaning toward murder 1.IMO of course!

Nothing has convinced me it's first degree murder. I still think it was an accident, involuntary manslaughter. No amen from me. I sit with the minority, still. :)

[kitty1182]

sure she could have



I do wish they would dig it up and look...Something about that bush bothers me..

[jamma6]

Just took alook at the 85 witnesses video. I then went to one I hadn`t seen before of Caylee. OMG, it was so sweet, it just broke my heart all over again! How anyone could hurt this precious little angel is just beyond anything I could imagine. She was singing.

[SavannahStar]

I do wish they would dig it up and look...Something about that bush bothers me..

Something must have convinced them it was unnecessary to dig it up. I personally don't second guess LE. I really think they know a lot more than we do, which has not been made public.

[kitty1182]

Something must have convinced them it was unnecessary to dig it up. I personally don't second guess LE. I really think they know a lot more than we do, which has not been made public.

Hi SS..:seeya:

do you remember the time CA said the bush was moved? I can't find out..

[nana6]

Nothing has convinced me it's first degree murder. I still think it was an accident, involuntary manslaughter. No amen from me. I sit with the minority, still. :)

Believe me, I would love to hear it was an accident. But if it was then why all the lies? Why not just go for the accident theory to the police even if it was not an accident the A's, none of them have mentioned accident. It just seems to me that it would be a whole lot easier on them to say it was an accident rather than take a chance on a murder charge. IMO

[bluwaters]

So did the "King Sword of Zoro" bring us any Truth last night?:shrug:

He didnt enlighten me a bit... :read:

Hi CinTN :seeya:

Here's the link to Richard Grund's MySpace blog that he posted after NG last night.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=437141308

He was disappointed that he did not have much time to speak on NG and was not able to address the issue that he considers most important in all of this and that is Caylee.
I do think that he did a good job of defending Jesse from Cindy's attempt to incriminate him.
Here's a bit if RG's post:

Please do not forget that in the midst of all the misdirection and media frenzy over dramatic content that keeps us scratching our head,. that there is a little girl not sleeping in her own bed.

Casey is comfortable. Cindy is comfortable. George is comfortable. Warm shower and hot food. Clean clothes and their own shoes.

Little baby doll is all alone in the pile of toys who have a home but no one to share it with.

THERE IS ONLY ONE VICTIM IN THIS ENTIRE CASE.

ONE VICTIM WHO HAS HAD NO VOICE AND NO CHOICE.

ONE VICTIM WHO HAS BEEN OVERLOOKED AND FORGOTTEN.

CAYLEE....SHE IS THE ONLY VICTIM.

I think that the man is stating the Truth!

[Snoopy50]

Nothing has convinced me it's first degree murder. I still think it was an accident, involuntary manslaughter. No amen from me. I sit with the minority, still. :)
I have always believed accident, but I can also understand why so many others disagree with all that has come out recently.:seeya:

[bhardy1956]

Do I hear an AMEN from those who think like I do that this was NO accident? Never was. Anyone who had an accident would have called 911. There would be no reason not to. IMO In the beginning of this case whe there was alot of conversation about whether this could have been an accident. I too tried to look objectively but now, after all this time, and the behavior and lies told to LE, I believe this was not an accident at all. In fact, as time goes by and we are seeing more documents I am leaning toward murder 1.IMO of course!

Amen and Amen! I have thought maybe it was an accident, but why she didn't call 911 bothers me very much. Now having learned she was looking at a site for missing children way before Caylee "went missing", is a very telling sign on murder. IMO

[FrankieBones1]

WHUT? Where on Earth did you get that?
Her boss liked her very much .. she was an excellent employee according to his statement. She was promoted and the ONLY thing he ever had to speak to her about was being too friendly with her subordinates... She was let go for job abandonment. Very shortly after Caylee was born... she just stopped coming to work.

Kozak, who had a photo-imaging contract at Universal Orlando, told detectives that on one occasion he had told her that she can't manage people during the day and then go out partying with them at night.



That's how that quote should have read.
Quit putting words in my messages that do not exist. I never said that he didn't like her. Read it again.
Go and read his deposition, too.

[Joan Weiss]

I doubt it. And IF it was they opened it QUICKLY. There is something else that really bothers me. None of them have mentioned the "fight" after Cindy came back from her visit. I hope that comes out SOON!
jmoI belive they are holding that evidence for a coming murder trial. jmo

[oldbluesmith]

Do I hear an AMEN from those who think like I do that this was NO accident? Never was. Anyone who had an accident would have called 911. There would be no reason not to. IMO In the beginning of this case whe there was alot of conversation about whether this could have been an accident. I too tried to look objectively but now, after all this time, and the behavior and lies told to LE, I believe this was not an accident at all. In fact, as time goes by and we are seeing more documents I am leaning toward murder 1.IMO of course!Amen, even what used to be considered an accident is now negligent homicide. JMHO

[spiritwolf46]

Believe me, I would love to hear it was an accident. But if it was then why all the lies? Why not just go for the accident theory to the police even if it was not an accident the A's, none of them have mentioned accident. It just seems to me that it would be a whole lot easier on them to say it was an accident rather than take a chance on a murder charge. IMO


I totally agree with this. :beer:

[martha]

Yes I think g and c both knew what the smell was in the car and george went on to work and cindy tryed to clean up the car because they both knew what it was. they knew casey had something to do with what happened to caylee. by cindy asking casey what have you done now.real telling. jmho:rose:

[nana6]

Amen and Amen! I have thought maybe it was an accident, but why she didn't call 911 bothers me very much. Now having learned she was looking at a site for missing children way before Caylee "went missing", is a very telling sign on murder. IMO

yes it is a telling sign and just one more thing to make a juror lean toward murder

[summer4meplz]

Hi SS..:seeya:

do you remember the time CA said the bush was moved? I can't find out..

Hi Kitty,,,,I know I'm not SS, but I love my pitbull too :) IIRC, Cindy was telling Greta that as they walked around the yard....

[Joan Weiss]

Just took alook at the 85 witnesses video. I then went to one I hadn`t seen before of Caylee. OMG, it was so sweet, it just broke my heart all over again! How anyone could hurt this precious little angel is just beyond anything I could imagine.Do you have a link to the 85 witnesses? TIA

[Pruddennce]

And what is up with Casey's handwritten statement to LE - Page 28 of the 400 page document dump:

"On Monday, June 9, 2008, between 9 a.m. and 1 p.m., I, Casey Anthony, took my daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony, to her nanny's apartment."

What is up with the 4 hour time span and the wrong date?

I know, I know, Lee explained it was Cindy that started with the June 8 as being the last day she saw Caylee, but I say BS! IMO, it would be embedded in a mother's heart and memory the day her daughter disappeared. It still does not explain a 4 hour time span.

she was supposedly in the Anthony home until almost 1pm. according to George.

I hang my hat of belief on LE's confirmation about father's day, I dont see anything around that fact, that caylee was alive and well at the nursing home.

but when she came home to be retrieved by Casey.....

there is plenty to be suspect of regarding the nite of the 15th.

I truly believe she left that nite because of her 4 hour timeframe of a supposed drop off the next day: as you have pointed out.

LE has confirmed it never happened 'as casey said' as the apt was VACANT. the woman doesnt exist, AND her cell phone records have no # associated with ZG in the past. no calls coinciding with her statement in the present day either, most notably an incoming call when she said she got the call hearing Caylee.

its all bogus.

but why would the Anthonys compromise the timeline? I want to believe its a simple case of covering up Casey's less than stellar behaviour, but that date is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO important.

LE does care if she left in a huff, or unceremoniously. they needed to know the truth.

and IMO they have yet to provide the truth regarding the nite of the 15th.

best regards,
Pru

[Texas48]

It is very hard to get the smell out of anything. Where ever the fluid has leaked onto such as a mattress/carpet/wood flooring....Everthing has to be thrown out..Wood flooring that any fluid has leaked on has to be completely torn out where ever the liquid has seeped. ANYTHING the fluid has touched has to be removed and disgarded. Suppose the body decomp in a room..there is a machine with filters (some carbon) and this runs in the room w/windows open untill the smell is gone. There is also cleaning liquids (strong) that are used. Pretty much the smell just does Go AWAY. JMO Typo..Meanto post smell does NOT GO AWAY on its own.

[FrankieBones1]

I was thinking the same thing.

Same here. I think we are going to be hearing more of the same in the next few hours so I'm outta here. Catch up in the morning!

[Joan Weiss]

Hi SS..:seeya:

do you remember the time CA said the bush was moved? I can't find out..I would say it was not recently moved, no fresh dirt dug up. Cindy said they moved it when Caylee started going out in the yard. That could have been a year ago. imo

[kitty1182]

Hi Kitty,,,,I know I'm not SS, but I love my pitbull too :) IIRC, Cindy was telling Greta that as they walked around the yard....

Hi sweetie..I remember her telling Great that..I was wondering what day that bush as moved...I was thinking the ground may have still be soft and the bush could have been dug up again, dug a little deeper, something put in there and the bush put back on top..:seeya:

[kitty1182]

I would say it was not recently moved, no fresh dirt dug up. Cindy said they moved it when Caylee started going out in the yard. That could have been a year ago. imo

Ok, thanks!!!! :)

[nana6]

she was supposedly in the Anthony home until almost 1pm. according to George.

I hang my hat of belief on LE's confirmation about father's day, I dont see anything around that fact, that caylee was alive and well at the nursing home.

but when she came home to be retrieved by Casey.....

there is plenty to be suspect of regarding the nite of the 15th.

I truly believe she left that nite because of her 4 hour timeframe of a supposed drop off the next day: as you have pointed out.

LE has confirmed it never happened 'as casey said' as the apt was VACANT. the woman doesnt exist, AND her cell phone records have no # associated with ZG in the past. no calls coinciding with her statement in the present day either, most notably an incoming call when she said she got the call hearing Caylee.

its all bogus.

but why would the Anthonys compromise the timeline? I want to believe its a simple case of covering up Casey's less than stellar behaviour, but that date is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO important.

LE does care if she left in a huff, or unceremoniously. they needed to know the truth.

and IMO they have yet to provide the truth regarding the nite of the 15th.

best regards,
Pru

Hey Pru, Don't forget the man next door who says he heard fighting coming from their house. Wasn't he talking about the night of the 15th?

[hamebone]

Someone posted yesterday that Casey more or less abandoned her position with the result that they let her go. Supposedly she was a good employee and they anticipated giving her a promotion. I don't know where the poster got the info.

It was in the doc dump

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/18%20Mike%20Kozak%20Transcript.pdf

[Joan Weiss]

Believe me, I would love to hear it was an accident. But if it was then why all the lies? Why not just go for the accident theory to the police even if it was not an accident the A's, none of them have mentioned accident. It just seems to me that it would be a whole lot easier on them to say it was an accident rather than take a chance on a murder charge. IMOI can't understand how anyone could think it was an accident. Surely Casey would have called 911. And, there's the chloroform and the search on missing children's sites. imo

[nana6]

Hi sweetie..I remember her telling Great that..I was wondering what day that bush as moved...I was thinking the ground may have still be soft and the bush could have been dug up again, dug a little deeper, something put in there and the bush put back on top..:seeya:

Hi Kitty, And didn't Casey tell George,"Dad. she is very close"?

[jakee]

Nothing has convinced me it's first degree murder. I still think it was an accident, involuntary manslaughter. No amen from me. I sit with the minority, still. :)


I am still thinking accident too. But I must admit, once we find out when the chloroform searches were done I may have to rethink the accident. I am hung up on the flurry of phone calls to her mom. She panicked, called for help and didn't get any. I think it was a bad accident like striking her too hard, not drowning, and was too scared to call 911. After that she put it out of her mind because she is bananas.

I know it drives me crazy wondering what the hey she did all day without a job and hanging with invisible people, but Casey isn't right in the head.

I have to hear more about the missing children website before I make a judgement on that also. It does seem suspect. I am confused.

I am open to changing my mind though. :)

[SavannahStar]

Hi SS..:seeya:

do you remember the time CA said the bush was moved? I can't find out..

Personally, I don't even remember, myself. I have seen people post about it, on HERE.....but I never heard it myself. So I don't have a clue where to tell you to look.

[jamma6]

FrankieBones1 gave it on page one. Sorry, if I did something wrong. I am new at this.

[dixie77]

Do I hear an AMEN from those who think like I do that this was NO accident? Never was. Anyone who had an accident would have called 911. There would be no reason not to. IMO In the beginning of this case whe there was alot of conversation about whether this could have been an accident. I too tried to look objectively but now, after all this time, and the behavior and lies told to LE, I believe this was not an accident at all. In fact, as time goes by and we are seeing more documents I am leaning toward murder 1.IMO of course!
===============

I respectfully disagree, Nana. I still think it was an accident. I am still thinking that Casey left Caylee in the pool un-attended and the poor child drowned. I am probably wrong but i cant get it out of my mind.
jmo

[nana6]

I can't understand how anyone could think it was an accident. Surely Casey would have called 911. And, there's the chloroform and the search on missing children's sites. imo

I know Joan. This is really not hard for me. I guess people always want to think that no one could harm a child on purpose.

[Texas48]

Doesn't the last part of your post contradict the first part of your post? Maybe I'm reading it wrong. :shrug: No, you read it corectly..I typed it wrong..I corrected it as soon as I could. It meant to read..The smell will NOT go away on its own. Sorry...

[spiritwolf46]

FrankieBones1 gave it on page one. Sorry, if I did something wrong. I am new at this.


Jamma, just wanted to welcome you to the board. You are among some of the very best here. :)

WELCOME and I hope you enjoy it as much as I have! :seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

Quit putting words in my messages that do not exist. I never said that he didn't like her. Read it again.
Go and read his deposition, too.Let me get technical for a moment...it's not a "deposition," it's an interview. A deposition is video taped, and the person is questioned by an attorney, and cross-examined by the defense. imo

[nana6]

===============

I respectfully disagree, Nana. I still think it was an accident. I am still thinking that Casey left Caylee in the pool un-attended and the poor child drowned. I am probably wrong but i cant get it out of my mind.
jmo

Hi Dixie, I understand your thinking but I see the chloroform sites along with the missing children sites and no one calling 911 to report an accident and I am suspect.

[summer4meplz]

Hi sweetie..I remember her telling Great that..I was wondering what day that bush as moved...I was thinking the ground may have still be soft and the bush could have been dug up again, dug a little deeper, something put in there and the bush put back on top..:seeya:


Caylee certainly would have been close.....I went to a funeral once where the lady had been cremated...her ashes were poured into a deep hole and they planted a tree above her...might be o/t :)

[kitty1182]

Hi Kitty, And didn't Casey tell George,"Dad. she is very close"?

Yes...Yes she did!! I sent Decetive Yuri a pm about it , he posts on another board...I just told him I was curious about that bush..

[Joan Weiss]

I know Joan. This is really not hard for me. I guess people always want to think that no one could harm a child on purpose.I agree, it is hard. Susan Smith and Andrea Yates just killed me. imo

[Joan Weiss]

Yes...Yes she did!! I sent Decetive Yuri a pm about it , he posts on another board...I just told him I was curious about that bush..Yuri is posting on a message board? :eek:

[kitty1182]

Caylee certainly would have been close.....I went to a funeral once where the lady had been cremated...her ashes were poured into a deep hole and they planted a tree above her...might be o/t :)

From what I understand, Casey had that shovel for maybe an hr?
She had time to dig that bush up, put Caylee in there and put bush back..IMO

[day2day]

Hi CinTN :seeya:

Here's the link to Richard Grund's MySpace blog that he posted after NG last night.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=437141308

He was disappointed that he did not have much time to speak on NG and was not able to address the issue that he considers most important in all of this and that is Caylee.
I do think that he did a good job of defending Jesse from Cindy's attempt to incriminate him.
Here's a bit if RG's post:



I think that the man is stating the Truth!


I do too!! Thanks for posting this!:D

[SavannahStar]

I am still thinking accident too. But I must admit, once we find out when the chloroform searches were done I may have to rethink the accident. I am hung up on the flurry of phone calls to her mom. She panicked, called for help and didn't get any. I think it was a bad accident like striking her too hard, not drowning, and was too scared to call 911. After that she put it out of her mind because she is bananas.

I know it drives me crazy wondering what the hey she did all day without a job and hanging with invisible people, but Casey isn't right in the head.

I have to hear more about the missing children website before I make a judgement on that also. It does seem suspect. I am confused.

I am open to changing my mind though. :)

Ah, we think very similarly!!! The chloroform evidence is still nebulous to me. And I want to SEE facts about those searches. I also have doubts about the missing children website. Not that I don't literally believe it was up on that computer, but we still don't know who did the search, and even IF Casey there could be another explanation. And some people are talking about missing kids' site searches, but I have only seen one. So I think that may be incorrect, that there were (plural) searches.

The flurry of phone calls stands out in my mind also. And as far as her not calling 911 if it were an accident (someone mentioned that upthread, in response to my post), or why all the lies, etc., well I say just as you do: Casey isn't right in the head.

Maybe if it were an accident, she was so scared of her mom? She did say something which makes me cling to the idea of an accident, something to the effect of, her mom always told her she was an unfit mother, and "maybe I am."

I always believed that once a person tells a lie, the longer they keep it up, the harder it is to come out with the truth. The longer she plays this crazy Zanny the Nanny thing, the more difficult it is for her to ever own up to killing Caylee.

I also am open to changing my mind.

[MyrDawn]

Do you have a link to the 85 witnesses? TIA

Is this the one you want?
http://www.wesh.com/video/17584838/index.html

[nana6]

Well, I am now going to sign off for awhile. I will watch NG and then come back on. Carry on friends!! I hope the rest of the night goes along as nicely as it has been here...:rose:

[SavannahStar]

Yuri is posting on a message board? :eek:

I'm sorry I just can't believe that. If TRUE, God help LE. I would never trust them if that's the case. I would think that is VERY unethical. :mad:

[sunbunny]

Yes...Yes she did!! I sent Decetive Yuri a pm about it , he posts on another board...I just told him I was curious about that bush..

:seeya: but wouldn't the cadaver dogs have caught a scent from that area?

:shrug:

[jakee]

Hi Dixie, I understand your thinking but I see the chloroform sites along with the missing children sites and no one calling 911 to report an accident and I am suspect.

I may change my mind when we find out when the chloroform searches were done. As far as the missing children site, I have to wait and hear more. This was in March and Casey still was at home. Didn't Lee say the computer was Cindy's? Maybe Cindy looked something up? I don't know what the hey to think. grrrrr

As far as not calling 911, I think Casey hurt that child and killed her in a rage and knew she would look bad, if it was a drowning, people would feel bad for her because that happens a lot and it was not intentional. But striking her or some other such thing would be too awful to call 911. Does that make sense? I know I am not good with explaining.

Like I said, I am apt to change my mind. :)

[SavannahStar]

I know Joan. This is really not hard for me. I guess people always want to think that no one could harm a child on purpose.

No, you guessed WRONG. You need to read my post. My belief in an accidental death does NOT mean I "want to think that no one could harm a child on purpose!!!!" I've seen PLENTY of harm to children on purpose!!!!!

[nana6]

Ah, we think very similarly!!! The chloroform evidence is still nebulous to me. And I want to SEE facts about those searches. I also have doubts about the missing children website. Not that I don't literally believe it was up on that computer, but we still don't know who did the search, and even IF Casey there could be another explanation. And some people are talking about missing kids' site searches, but I have only seen one. So I think that may be incorrect, that there were (plural) searches.

The flurry of phone calls stands out in my mind also. And as far as her not calling 911 if it were an accident (someone mentioned that upthread, in response to my post), or why all the lies, etc., well I say just as you do: Casey isn't right in the head.

Maybe if it were an accident, she was so scared of her mom? She did say something which makes me cling to the idea of an accident, something to the effect of, her mom always told her she was an unfit mother, and "maybe I am."

I always believed that once a person tells a lie, the longer they keep it up, the harder it is to come out with the truth. The longer she plays this crazy Zanny the Nanny thing, the more difficult it is for her to ever own up to killing Caylee.

I also am open to changing my mind.

Hi Savannah, Good post, Do you think that the defense will go for insanity? Or some kind of defense in that area? I think after all that has come out they will for sure.

[jamma6]

Thank you for the Welcome Spirit. I have been lurking for a long time. Just had to say something about little Caylee singing. What a little angel!

[Acorn]

Let me get technical for a moment...it's not a "deposition," it's an interview. A deposition is video taped, and the person is questioned by an attorney, and cross-examined by the defense. imo

Not all depositions are video taped, but they are transcribed.

[nana6]

No, you guessed WRONG. You need to read my post. My belief in an accidental death does NOT mean I "want to think that no one could harm a child on purpose!!!!" I've seen PLENTY of harm to children on purpose!!!!!

Savannah, That is not at all directed toward you. In no way. I am saying that people never want to believe anyone could intensionally harm a child. It is hard for our minds to go there. I am sorry if I did not make myself clear. I do that sometimes.

[Joan Weiss]

Does anyone remember somewhere some guy said that he and a friend were driving on one of the roads in Orlando and he saw this girl off somewhat on the side of the road with a shovel, he found it odd and told his friend ,hey if someone comes up missing we will know where to find the body ,but he said he was joking about it at the time........this was sometime around june ..I was thinking he said like the 27th ,which doesn't coincide with the borrowed shovel ,but he may have said the 17th of june ,anyone remember this ..he also said he reported it to the sheriff after hearing caylee missing ,but noone returned his call...?As a matter of fact, many people travel with a shovel, and dig up wild lilies, lilac bushes, flowers and such. I see that a lot. imo

[hamebone]

Yes...Yes she did!! I sent Decetive Yuri a pm about it , he posts on another board...I just told him I was curious about that bush..

Link please, I hope his is not posting on a message board.

[steffaroob4]

Example (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=%2B28%C2%B0+28'+9.00%22,+-81%C2%B0+17'+30.00%22+(28.469167,+-81.291667)&daddr=4937+Hopespring+Dr+Orlando,+FL+32829+to:28.4 547222+++++-81.2636111&hl=en&geocode=Fa9nsgEdbZYn-w%3B%3BFUIvsgEdBQQo-w&mra=ls&sll=28.47691,-81.275595&sspn=0.070617,0.109863&ie=UTF8&ll=28.494342,-81.295395&spn=0.141212,0.219727&t=p&z=12)

I hope this works.
These are 2 of the towers I have seen get used when I believe she is home. B is the home tower A= 28.469167, -81.291667 seems further away, but only if you are driving. Tower C=28.4547222 -81.2636111
seems to be the one that she hits from home more often.

[kitty1182]

Cell phone pings..Boy, is she a talker or what?


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1655021/detailed-cell-calls

[SavannahStar]

Hey Pru, Don't forget the man next door who says he heard fighting coming from their house. Wasn't he talking about the night of the 15th?

No, he said the weekend, didn't pin down a date.

[SavannahStar]

Savannah, That is not at all directed toward you. In no way. I am saying that people never want to believe anyone could intensionally harm a child. It is hard for our minds to go there. I am sorry if I did not make myself clear. I do that sometimes.

Thank you. :rose:

[margaret kep]

Can't begin to find a link for this, but I'm positive I either read or heard on a cablenews show that the two of them broke up, she got pregnant by somebody else, and then they got back together for a brief time.
Remember? Jesse's dad said that when she started coming to their house again, he noticed that she was pregnant, but she denied it.... said that she had a female problem.

Hi, it's in Jessie G. statement that he had sex with Casey around 11-04 or 12-04 but did not know her. He states he first met her in 01-05 officially and that's why he thought he was baby daddy. But she was preg by some one other than Jessie. SODDI as NG always says.

[spiritwolf46]

Thank you for the Welcome Spirit. I have been lurking for a long time. Just had to say something about little Caylee singing. What a little angel!


You are very welcome and you are so right....what a little angel!

[Joan Weiss]

No, you guessed WRONG. You need to read my post. My belief in an accidental death does NOT mean I "want to think that no one could harm a child on purpose!!!!" I've seen PLENTY of harm to children on purpose!!!!!There's no need to yell at nana. I'll say it again, I don't see how you can believe accident with all the evidence revealed so far and combine it with Casey's bahavior. That's just not logical. imo

[Amy]

Hey Pru, Don't forget the man next door who says he heard fighting coming from their house. Wasn't he talking about the night of the 15th?

Wonder if the neighbor SAW any of those fighting? Could have been George and Cindy were fighting, maybe no one else was there w/them. OTOH, it could have been one or the other fighting w/Casey.

[SavannahStar]

There's no need to yell at nana. I'll say it again, I don't see how you can believe accident with all the evidence revealed so far and combine it with Casey's bahavior. That's just not logical. imo


Nana and I have it all straightened out between us, thank you very much Joan.

I'm sorry if you think my theory is not logical. I think premeditated murder isn't logical, for many reasons.

Isn't that what a message board is supposed to be about, differing opinions? In time, we will know the truth, I am convinced of that.

[kitty1182]

Link please, I hope his is not posting on a message board.

It's probally not for real anyways, but I did pm you..:)

[Joan Weiss]

I personally do not see a planned and staged murder. So many reasons for this :


If she planned this ,it was the suckiest plan EVER ,because good gosh ,my dog can trick me better then this .

There is no planning when all the evidence and facts that we know have no relation to one another ,except we can ascertain there are tidbits of truth here and there that WE can try to make connections with ,only because we have been forced to , because rin relaity we know nothing ! .LOL

Honestly if you think about it the searches for missing children back in march , have nothing to do with her plan .....because REALLY she had NO PLAN...nothing she has done or said in any of this sounds like any kind of a plan .......if this girl was plotting this murder ,this has got to be the worst murder plot in history ......I mean a girl who can fake a job for 2 years under everyones noses ,can't see that by not letting her mother talk to Caylee in a month wouldn't raise severe suspicion ?


No I can not agree there was any planning in this ....JMO , no offense. But I am open to hearing ideas for sure.I'm not getting your point. If Casey could fool her own parents for two years, figure out how to get money out of her GF's account, and convince Jessie for several months that Caylee was his child, I don't know what you think is bad planning.

20 year olds don't visit missing children's sites unless it's someone missing in their family. Please, Casey is/was a party animal. imo

[hamebone]

It's probally not for real anyways, but I did pm you..:)

Thanks Kitty...:seeya:

[kitty1182]

:seeya:

You are correct.

Casey definitely premeditated the murder of Caylee.

The fight on the night of June the 15th, verified by Cindy's brother Rick, pushed Casey's plan into place.


I agree and I think she took Caylee that night, maybe even while GA and Ca were sleeping..IMO I think Caylee lost her life that night or the wee hrs. of the morning Casey took her from that home..

[Joan Weiss]

I think it's time to say "See ya later." :seeya:

Yoo-hoo, wait for me, Frankie.

[kitty1182]

Thanks Kitty...:seeya:

Welcome..Starting to thunder pretty heavy, will shut down in a few minutes...:seeya:

[nana6]

I agree and I think she took Caylee that night, maybe even while GA and Ca were sleeping..IMO I think Caylee lost her life that night or the wee hrs. of the morning Casey took her from that home..

ITA AND I do not think that George saw them at 1:50 p.m. on the 16th leaving his house either

[kitty1182]

hmmm. "Rear Window."

Hi sweetpea..
Rear window, is she fixing to RUN:lol: