Tuesday, Sept 30th Evening - Day 106

[kitty1182]

ITA AND I do not think that George saw them at 1:50 p.m. on the 16th leaving his house either

I don't think he did either..

[marshmallow]

Ah, we think very similarly!!! The chloroform evidence is still nebulous to me. And I want to SEE facts about those searches. I also have doubts about the missing children website. Not that I don't literally believe it was up on that computer, but we still don't know who did the search, and even IF Casey there could be another explanation. And some people are talking about missing kids' site searches, but I have only seen one. So I think that may be incorrect, that there were (plural) searches.

The flurry of phone calls stands out in my mind also. And as far as her not calling 911 if it were an accident (someone mentioned that upthread, in response to my post), or why all the lies, etc., well I say just as you do: Casey isn't right in the head.

Maybe if it were an accident, she was so scared of her mom? She did say something which makes me cling to the idea of an accident, something to the effect of, her mom always told her she was an unfit mother, and "maybe I am."

I always believed that once a person tells a lie, the longer they keep it up, the harder it is to come out with the truth. The longer she plays this crazy Zanny the Nanny thing, the more difficult it is for her to ever own up to killing Caylee.

I also am open to changing my mind.




I tend to agree with what you've said.

[nana6]

NG on in 20 min!!

[kitty1182]

WHAT???

Is this for real? :confused:

I sent you a pm..Gotta go and get ready for NG:seeya:

[ginky41]

Hi everyone, I'm sorry to see there are no new developments. I sure would like some answers. :shrug:

[Katt2]

I am still thinking accident too. But I must admit, once we find out when the chloroform searches were done I may have to rethink the accident. I am hung up on the flurry of phone calls to her mom. She panicked, called for help and didn't get any. I think it was a bad accident like striking her too hard, not drowning, and was too scared to call 911. After that she put it out of her mind because she is bananas.

I know it drives me crazy wondering what the hey she did all day without a job and hanging with invisible people, but Casey isn't right in the head.

I have to hear more about the missing children website before I make a judgement on that also. It does seem suspect. I am confused.

I am open to changing my mind though. :)

I agree with most every single thing you posted! I still think it is possible she could have drowned.

[marshmallow]

There's no need to yell at nana. I'll say it again, I don't see how you can believe accident with all the evidence revealed so far and combine it with Casey's bahavior. That's just not logical. imo



Here's my theory:
if Casey is the person responsible for death and it wasn't an accident like unattended swimming. I'm afraid that I can see a possibility that Casey might've snapped and lashed out, harming Caylee.

Everything was going a bit sideways on her. She'd been caught stealing from her GG, Mom wasn't cutting her slack like she always had, new circle of pals and new boyfriend who were more active at night. Boyfriend didn't want Caylee sleeping over, friends making comments about her not bringing Caylee to parties and poker games, Amy's alleged sleepwalking shown as a lie, the house not really being her's so she and Amy have no real future place to live, a huge blow up with the 'rents, maybe Cindy snapped too, Casey grabbing her only weapon to hurt them with... Caylee and saying something like "fine, we're gone and you're never seeing us again".

And at some point with all this rattling around in her head, possibly Caylee says something, whines like kids her age do when they're tired and confused, or cries for Grandma, and yes, I do think it's possibly that Casey lashed out. No excuse though.

I had a hard time trying to imagine Casey losing it that way. But now seeing the tempers shared by the other family members (and yes, some was provoked) and getting a broader view of Casey's self created house of cards.
She had a mess and I still can't see her premeditating Caylee's demise but I can see her snapping. Especially after reading Amy's words and realizing how carefully Casey kept her "worlds" apart. Especially knowing that everything she'd built out of lies was coming down and knowing she must've been desperate. I think it's possible she then started thinking about making a new life for herself, maybe as an escort in Cal. But then Cindy showed up with Amy and the poop hit the fan.

[crymeariver2006]

Hi sweetpea..
Rear window, is she fixing to RUN:lol:

LOL

D@mn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

Run, Casey, run!

[kitty1182]

He is posting on another board but he isn't discussing the case, he can't FGS.

Correct..He was only talking about his accident...
Thanks for helping me out!! :beer:

[Rayosunshine]

I didn't see it. Care to share?

The info is posted on another site. I'll get the link.

[kitty1182]

LOL

D@mn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!

Run, Casey, run!

A poster on here did this for me the other day..LOL

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif

[Rayosunshine]

Hope the link works.

September 30, 2008
Today Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J73iLgdujXg
__________________

[jessjam]

Amen and Amen! I have thought maybe it was an accident, but why she didn't call 911 bothers me very much. Now having learned she was looking at a site for missing children way before Caylee "went missing", is a very telling sign on murder. IMO

Even if it was a accident, waiting 31 days to call the police, the lies, and the other million and one things cancel that out in my book.

[nana6]

I guess youreally do not have to be a grand mother to answer my question. What kind of people allow there child who stiil lives in their home and should go by their rules, to leave a house at night with a little 2 year old girl to go party? We have 6 grandchildren all under 5 and believe you me, if they were living here we would never ever allow it under our roof. If our girls wanted to go out we would insist they leave the child with us for the evening. If I am correct, Casey took Caylee out at night all the time. Why wasn't this little girl at home and in bed by 7?

[kitty1182]

http://bestsmileys.com/cops/8.gif

........:lol:

[kitty1182]

Sure, let the rest of us hang !! :no: j/k

:rose: Caylee, not forgotten by some

........ok:chicken:

[SavannahStar]

He is posting on another board but he isn't discussing the case, he can't FGS.

Then what's he doing on another message board, a CRIME message board, I believe? My opinion of him just dropped by about 500%.

[kitty1182]

Even if it was a accident, waiting 31 days to call the police, the lies, and the other million and one things cancel that out in my book.

I so agree...She could have called if it was an accident...
She gets no mercy from me..

[shelbar53]

Question, how do you get back to the board when you respond to a pm? im using the back arrow but is there a quicker way?

[SavannahStar]

I so agree...She could have called if it was an accident...
She gets no mercy from me..


I think it was an accident, and she gets NO MERCY FROM ME. Why does one have to cancel out the other?

[SavannahStar]

Correct..He was only talking about his accident...
Thanks for helping me out!! :beer:

He shouldn't be on a crime message board, PERIOD. :rolleyes:

[Freefall]

:seeya:

You are correct.

Casey definitely premeditated the murder of Caylee.

The fight on the night of June the 15th, verified by Cindy's brother Rick, pushed Casey's plan into place.

How many brothers does Cindy have? In the interview video at 6:05 she says she has a brother named Dan.

[crymeariver2006]

Question, how do you get back to the board when you respond to a pm? im using the back arrow but is there a quicker way?


If you see that you have a notification, right click and open in another window. Then you can read the pm and reply, close it out and never leave your place!

:D

[nana6]

Because she was "with Zanny"? :shrug: At least that is what KC was always telling CA when she wasn't at home. Time for NG, gotta go! :seeya:

I can see where she would tell Cindy and George that Caylee was with Zanny during the work day but at night wouldn't you expect Caylee to be home? Not with Zanny all day and then night too?

[day2day]

Then what's he doing on another message board, a CRIME message board, I believe? My opinion of him just dropped by about 500%.

Savannah
Posters were posting get well messages to him. He went there and thanked them He will NOT discuss the case. He said -don't even ask he won't answer. He said maybe after this case is OVER he might answer questions-not until then...

just wanted you to know!

[crymeariver2006]

How many brothers does Cindy have? In the interview video at 6:05 she says she has a brother named Dan.


I think Rick said she has three. She is the only girl and the youngest child.

[bhardy1956]

Even if it was a accident, waiting 31 days to call the police, the lies, and the other million and one things cancel that out in my book.

Me too, except that the "31 day" thing is a lie too by Casey!
She didn't wait 31 days and was doing her own investigation, all lies!!
I believe, IMO, something happened to Caylee around the 15th, 16th, or 17 of June, and again IMO, she didn't become missing, she was probably deceased at her momma's hands.
I am praying the LE is gathering all the evidence they need, and much more than what we hear to resolved this case. I really pray that Caylee is found so she can be layed to rest.

IMO ~ really!

[bchand]

A poster on here did this for me the other day..LOL

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif

That's hysterical kitty - perfect for you !!

[Freefall]

I think Rick said she has three. She is the only girl and the youngest child.

Thanks :seeya:

[desmom]

I was googling Caylee and ran across this.....you might want to grab the tissues...

http://respectance.com/Caylee_Anthony/memorial?gclid=CJCH6NvahJYCFQWlQAodJ0kXFw


:rose: Precious Little Caylee

[steffaroob4]

I think it was an accident, and she gets NO MERCY FROM ME. Why does one have to cancel out the other?

I am waffling back and forth, I am waiting to see the computer reports that tells us about chloroform searches and what types of missing child sites she visited, both of those thing are disturbng to me.

Do you think LE does computer searches for words like accidental death, to see if she searched about that?

[kitty1182]

He shouldn't be on a crime message board, PERIOD. :rolleyes:

Some think Tim (TES) should not have been on a message board either, but I sure don't hold it against him..

The case is NOT being discussed...

[marshmallow]

I think it was an accident, and she gets NO MERCY FROM ME. Why does one have to cancel out the other?

exactly and Savannah and I have just hit a new record for us agreeing :D there should be cake...

Casey gets no pity, no mercy, no nothing from me. I am disgusted with her behavior before, during, and after. I just am not convinced that she premeditated. I do lean more toward her hitting the child in some way, or losing control and physically causing death and I feel she should be punished as much as possible!

but I am more than willing to change my mind on it being accidental or due to loss of self control (and there is no excuse good enough for that)

[kitty1182]

That's hysterical kitty - perfect for you !!

......:tongue:

[cathiesblogs]

If it were an accident..all Casey had to do was call 911..humm not unless she left her in the trunk of a car on a really hot Florida summer...I hope and Pray to God that precious little girl did not "know" it ..if her mother did do something intentionally !..I have had the fear that Casey might have done something horrible to her in a rage..if she really did leave mad at Cindy..after getting caught stealing her poor old grand-fathers nursing home funds..Casey has no morals at all..nothing..an empty vessel !!..I do not know how she sleeps at night..she couldn't believe an an afterlife..but she might just get a surprise one day !!!

[hamebone]

He is posting on another board but he isn't discussing the case, he can't FGS.

Yeah , I was just sent one of his post.

Thanks :seeya:

Faf

[playnice]

I really think she will be charged with murder. If it were an accident and she panicked Baez would be making a plea (lighter charge) in exchange for her telling them where the body is.
Any way she goes its jail time. Alot of it if she doesnt come clean before a murder charge.
The only reason that makes any sense is she did something that she fears would show up like blunt force trauma if Tim comes back and finds Caylees body.

[day2day]

I was googling Caylee and ran across this.....you might want to grab the tissues...

http://respectance.com/Caylee_Anthony/memorial?gclid=CJCH6NvahJYCFQWlQAodJ0kXFw


:rose: Precious Little Caylee

Thank you desmom...
:rose:

[bhardy1956]

He shouldn't be on a crime message board, PERIOD. :rolleyes:

And why pray tell shouldn't he be on a crime message board ~ he deals with crime, that's his job. It would be like me going on a message board that deals with retail stores, that's what I do...I'm sure it's just a hobby like the rest of us. I am sure he isn't stupid and giving out information on his cases. Lighten up, I do remember you on the Scott Peterson thread....at least your not saying Casey is innocent.

[kitty1182]

If it were an accident..all Casey had to do was call 911..humm not unless she left her in the trunk of a car on a really hot Florida summer...I hope and Pray to God that that precious child does not "know" it ..if Casey did do something intentionally !..I have had the fear that Casey might have done something horrible to her in a rage..if she really did leave mad at Cindy..after getting caught stealing her poor old grand-fathers nursing home funds..Casey has no morals at all..nothing..an empty vessel !!..I do not know how she sleeps at night..she couldn't believe an an afterlife..but she might just get a surprise one day !!!

Hi and Welcome...Good post..She will answer here or she will answer when she meets her Maker..

[WingNIt]

Here's my theory:
if Casey is the person responsible for death and it wasn't an accident like unattended swimming. I'm afraid that I can see a possibility that Casey might've snapped and lashed out, harming Caylee.

Everything was going a bit sideways on her. She'd been caught stealing from her GG, Mom wasn't cutting her slack like she always had, new circle of pals and new boyfriend who were more active at night. Boyfriend didn't want Caylee sleeping over, friends making comments about her not bringing Caylee to parties and poker games, Amy's alleged sleepwalking shown as a lie, the house not really being her's so she and Amy have no real future place to live, a huge blow up with the 'rents, maybe Cindy snapped too, Casey grabbing her only weapon to hurt them with... Caylee and saying something like "fine, we're gone and you're never seeing us again".

And at some point with all this rattling around in her head, possibly Caylee says something, whines like kids her age do when they're tired and confused, or cries for Grandma, and yes, I do think it's possibly that Casey lashed out. No excuse though.

I had a hard time trying to imagine Casey losing it that way. But now seeing the tempers shared by the other family members (and yes, some was provoked) and getting a broader view of Casey's self created house of cards.
She had a mess and I still can't see her premeditating Caylee's demise but I can see her snapping. Especially after reading Amy's words and realizing how carefully Casey kept her "worlds" apart. Especially knowing that everything she'd built out of lies was coming down and knowing she must've been desperate. I think it's possible she then started thinking about making a new life for herself, maybe as an escort in Cal. But then Cindy showed up with Amy and the poop hit the fan.


I was thinking pretty much the same as you. I'm still keeping an open mind as to what could have happened but was thinking, since all the ideas of pre-meditation started, that possibly the idea of getting rid of Caylee was just floating around in her mind...she didn't have a definite plan in place...was sitting at her computer with ideas in mind of what she "could" do or how she "could" make extra money (escort service). Then when the big argument took place and she left, and if Caylee was grating on her nerves by whining or whatever, that's when she snapped. I also think that what someone else said may have come into play...Caylee was getting older and able to relay back to G & C what exactly was going on when she was away from the house with Casey. It's not exactly easy trying to figure out a person who isn't normal.:shrug:

[day2day]

Some think Tim (TES) should not have been on a message board either, but I sure don't hold it against him..

The case is NOT being discussed...

IMO Tim can go wherever he chooses!! LOL!! He certainly doesn't give out any "clues"...jmo

[Rayosunshine]

Does anyone remember somewhere some guy said that he and a friend were driving on one of the roads in Orlando and he saw this girl off somewhat on the side of the road with a shovel, he found it odd and told his friend ,hey if someone comes up missing we will know where to find the body ,but he said he was joking about it at the time........this was sometime around june ..I was thinking he said like the 27th ,which doesn't coincide with the borrowed shovel ,but he may have said the 17th of june ,anyone remember this ..he also said he reported it to the sheriff after hearing caylee missing ,but noone returned his call...?

I do remember that, but not sure of the date or where I heard it. Bad if the sheriff didn't respond.

[shelbar53]

If you see that you have a notification, right click and open in another window. Then you can read the pm and reply, close it out and never leave your place!

:D

thank you :)

[desmom]

Then what's he doing on another message board, a CRIME message board, I believe? My opinion of him just dropped by about 500%.


Why? TIA...

[SavannahStar]

Savannah
Posters were posting get well messages to him. He went there and thanked them He will NOT discuss the case. He said -don't even ask he won't answer. He said maybe after this case is OVER he might answer questions-not until then...

just wanted you to know!


Uh huh. Do you think it's right for him to even JOIN a crime message board? For what reason? I see NO reason for him to join and post. Again, IMO.....this is very unethical. No matter what he discusses PUBLICLY. :no:

[kitty1182]

IMO Tim can go wherever he chooses!! LOL!! He certainly doesn't give out any "clues"...jmo



The case is not being discussed on that board...:)

Glad you saw it too..

[SavannahStar]

And why pray tell shouldn't he be on a crime message board ~ he deals with crime, that's his job. It would be like me going on a message board that deals with retail stores, that's what I do...I'm sure it's just a hobby like the rest of us. I am sure he isn't stupid and giving out information on his cases. Lighten up, I do remember you on the Scott Peterson thread....

That's really cool to bring up old cases....really relevant to the subject we're discussing. :rolleyes:

[kitty1182]

Uh huh. Do you think it's right for him to even JOIN a crime message board? For what reason? I see NO reason for him to join and post. Again, IMO.....this is very unethical. No matter what he discusses PUBLICLY. :no:

Why shouldn't he? :shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

Let me get technical for a moment...it's not a "deposition," it's an interview. A deposition is video taped, and the person is questioned by an attorney, and cross-examined by the defense. imo

And when a deposition is given isn't there a court reporter typing away, or are they replaced by the video.

[day2day]

Uh huh. Do you think it's right for him to even JOIN a crime message board? For what reason? I see NO reason for him to join and post. Again, IMO.....this is very unethical. No matter what he discusses PUBLICLY. :no:

I don't understand?! People just posted get well messages...he went in and said ---"thank you for the prayers and well wishes" --What is wrong with that?

:shrug:

[day2day]

The case is not being discussed on that board...:)

Glad you saw it too..

Of course it isn't! I don't understand why anyone would be upset? :read:

[kitty1182]

I don't understand?! People just posted get well messages...he went in and said ---"thank you for the prayers and well wishes" --What is wrong with that?

:shrug:

Maybe she should join the board since she doesn't believe us..LOL

[beckyj]

And why pray tell shouldn't he be on a crime message board ~ he deals with crime, that's his job. It would be like me going on a message board that deals with retail stores, that's what I do...I'm sure it's just a hobby like the rest of us. I am sure he isn't stupid and giving out information on his cases. Lighten up, I do remember you on the Scott Peterson thread....at least your not saying Casey is innocent.


I agree. As long as he isn't discussing the case, I think it is a good idea. How many people have posted ideas they wish LE knew about. Well, guess what? They might!

[kitty1182]

Yesterday WESH said there were 85 wittnesses, ng only says 82 did we lose 3 already?

LOL, I hope not...

[Rayosunshine]

I'm sorry I just can't believe that. If TRUE, God help LE. I would never trust them if that's the case. I would think that is VERY unethical. :mad:

If it wasn't him, then it would have to be an imposter.

[kitty1182]

I agree. As long as he isn't discussing the case, I think it is a good idea. How many people have posted ideas they wish LE knew about. Well, guess what? They might!

True..I have an idea, but did not post it, just pm'd him...Heck, he probally won't even be back on for weeks..LOL

[Cury-us Coyote]

I am shocked to see the actual skull, FL doesn't allow the media to use pictures human remains. (maybe it is a law that has to do with evidence already collected by LE, just seems weird to see skull like that.) I remember that from the AMW show about the sereal killer in the North Port area of Florida.

During the broadcast of the Savio re-autopsy and recreation of the eight Ft Myers skeletons precautions were taken. IIRC, AMW used representative remains only. BTW, another of the eight was identified via DNA.

[day2day]

Maybe she should join the board since she doesn't believe us..LOL

There ya go! Great idea! I am pretty sure that Yuri of ALL people would do anything to jeopardize this case. Yuri is one of a HANDFULL of people who are actually searching for this littleone. hammerhammerjmo

[steffaroob4]

During the broadcast of the Savio re-autopsy and recreation of the eight Ft Myers skeletons precautions were taken. IIRC, AMW used representative remains only. BTW, another of the eight was identified via DNA.

Wow, thanks, I didn't know that.

[day2day]

I agree. As long as he isn't discussing the case, I think it is a good idea. How many people have posted ideas they wish LE knew about. Well, guess what? They might!

Bingo-you never know who is posting and who is lurking. JMO

[kitty1182]

Bingo-you never know who is posting and who is lurking. JMO

AMEN...It wouldn't surprise me if the FBI was looking at these boards..

[desmom]

Yesterday WESH said there were 85 wittnesses, ng only says 82 did we lose 3 already?


George, Cindy & Lee?

[Katt2]

Of course it isn't! I don't understand why anyone would be upset? :read:

I am not upset if he is on a message board but I would think it would be a bit unethical. If there is a murder trial, he is going to have to testify. If Baez ever finds out he was on a crime message during this investigation, he is going to have a field day, regardless of the fact he did not post about the case.

[day2day]

AMEN...It wouldn't surprise me if the FBI was looking at these boards..

That wouldn't surprise me in the least!!:read:

[desmom]

Bingo-you never know who is posting and who is lurking. JMO


He would not be the first LE to lurk/post on crime boards. jmo

[day2day]

I am not upset if he is on a message board but I would think it would be a bit unethical. If there is a murder trial, he is going to have to testify. If Baez ever finds out he was on a crime message during this investigation, he is going to have a field day, regardless of the fact he did not post about the case.

Well i am pretty sure that they can pull his records and prove that he did NOT discuss this case. He has made it perfectly clear. DO NOT ASK ME-i will not speak about ANY aspect of this case. Period.

[spiritwolf46]

Uh huh. Do you think it's right for him to even JOIN a crime message board? For what reason? I see NO reason for him to join and post. Again, IMO.....this is very unethical. No matter what he discusses PUBLICLY. :no:


Oh yes. I can see where it is unethical to say THANK YOU to the many well wishers from his accident. I can see where it is unethical to join a message board just to relax with other people even though he is NOT talking about a case that he is working on (like the Anthony case). MMMMMM-HMMMM.......NOT!

He has every right to be on there as we do. He is NOT breaking any laws not talking about the Anthony case that we have heard or seen.

So....you can have YOUR opinion of him that has dropped 500 percent. I am sure that this will crush him.

Now, let's all talk about what is going on with the Anthony case, shall we?

:rose:For CAYLEE

[ellegna]

Yes...Yes she did!! I sent Decetive Yuri a pm about it , he posts on another board...I just told him I was curious about that bush..

There is a discussion on another site about the hibiscus bush being moved and that lime is a good fertilizer for hibiscus. Lime is also used to mask decomp smell.
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/09/22/oh-oh-complaint-filed-about-caylee-anthony-trust-funds/

[hamebone]

I am not upset if he is on a message board but I would think it would be a bit unethical. If there is a murder trial, he is going to have to testify. If Baez ever finds out he was on a crime message during this investigation, he is going to have a field day, regardless of the fact he did not post about the case.


If he isnt talking about this case, can Baez even bring it up at trial. What would be the relevance?

[kitty1182]

There is a discussion on another site about the hibiscus bush being moved and that lime is a good fertilizer for hibiscus. Lime is also used to mask decomp smell.
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/09/22/oh-oh-complaint-filed-about-caylee-anthony-trust-funds/

Thanks!!!!!! I will check that out!!!! :beer:

[bchand]

I am not upset if he is on a message board but I would think it would be a bit unethical. If there is a murder trial, he is going to have to testify. If Baez ever finds out he was on a crime message during this investigation, he is going to have a field day, regardless of the fact he did not post about the case.

And when Baez offers the transcripts of his post which say "thank you for your concern about my broken leg, it's broken in 3 places, no external cast, I have no children, just dogs - what then?

[day2day]

He would not be the first LE to lurk/post on crime boards. jmo

This case is personal to him. I am pretty sure he would never jeopardize this case -posting a thank you. I hope i am not wrong!

[st777jo]

Question for anyone:

Does anyone know if there were any cell phone pings from Orlando to Tampa? TIA

[kitty1182]

That bush needs to be dug up!!!!!

[bhardy1956]

George, Cindy & Lee?

The prosecution can still use them as hostile witnesses, if that were the case. I am sure the Anthoney family will not help the DA's at all once this goes to trial, if they can help it.

It's all about Caylee, and they have lost that!

[shelbar53]

:eek: neighbors saw the anthonys cleaning out caseys car?? did i just hear that right on NG??

[Katt2]

If he isnt talking about this case, can Baez even bring it up at trial. What would be the relevance?

I guess my point is that he is posting in the middle of the Casey Anthony case on a message board. If it weren't for her, we wouldn't even know who he is. I can understand him wanting to read but I am still not sure if was wise for him to post. There could be a potential juror on that board.

[Joan Weiss]

Just reported on NG that the neighbors saw the Anthonys cleaning the car.

[Rayosunshine]

Thanks!!!!!! I will check that out!!!! :beer:

I didn't see anything about lime at that link. You mean it is at another website?

[day2day]

That bush needs to be dug up!!!!!

Just in case they are reading...i agree!!:D

[Joan Weiss]

:eek: neighbors saw the anthonys cleaning out caseys car?? did i just hear that right on NG??Yes........

[kitty1182]

:eek: neighbors saw the anthonys cleaning out caseys car?? did i just hear that right on NG??

Yes........

[hamebone]

And when Baez offers the transcripts of his post which say "thank you for your concern about my broken leg, it's broken in 3 places, no external cast, I have no children, just dogs - what then?

Isnt he out on sick leave? He isnt working on the case at this time is he?

[SavannahStar]

I am not upset if he is on a message board but I would think it would be a bit unethical. If there is a murder trial, he is going to have to testify. If Baez ever finds out he was on a crime message during this investigation, he is going to have a field day, regardless of the fact he did not post about the case.

Oh that's is absolutely correct.

[day2day]

Just reported on NG that the neighbors saw the Anthonys cleaning the car.

Uh-oh....:o

[shelbar53]

You're opinion is heard & noted.

Would you like to discuss the case now or would you like to continue down the path you have chosen?

Spending the day with Caylee is ten times more exhausting than working a twelve hour event.

What did Casey mean by that?

Casey never worked any twelve hour event.

It is exhausting chasing after a little one..I can vouch for that. I watch my GD and when my hubby comes from work...i go into the Bedroom for a 15 minute break. and I love my GD more than life...

[Joan Weiss]

I guess my point is that he is posting in the middle of the Casey Anthony case on a message board. If it weren't for her, we wouldn't even know who he is. I can understand him wanting to read but I am still not sure if was wise for him to post. There could be a potential juror on that board.I don't think he is. That would be stupid. Yuri is not stupid. imo

[bhardy1956]

And when Baez offers the transcripts of his post which say "thank you for your concern about my broken leg, it's broken in 3 places, no external cast, I have no children, just dogs - what then?

Time wasted, because Baez brought it in.

[spiritwolf46]

This is the shortest and weirdest of the segments. Usually (I am tying this before NG comes back on) she talks for about 15 seconds and the darn NG theme music starts drowning her out and they go to commercial...

More clips of Cindy talking to LE about how Jesse has a motive and could intimidate Casey to shut her mouth and threaten GA and CA.
Mike Brooks: What is Jesse's motive? Casey should have been a fiction writer. Has no motive.
Dr. Lilian Glass: Why is Cindy pointing the finger elsewhere? She knows what is going on deep down but doesn't want to lose her daughter. She has already lost the granddaughter.


As usual, Little Bitty, you are right on it! Thank you! :seeya:

[day2day]

I guess my point is that he is posting in the middle of the Casey Anthony case on a message board. If it weren't for her, we wouldn't even know who he is. I can understand him wanting to read but I am still not sure if was wise for him to post. There could be a potential juror on that board.

A potential juror would probly NOT be a juror if the judge /prosecution/defense knew they were on a message board posting their opinions on this case...would they? (i would hope not)
(really i have no clue but it doesnt seem right..:shrug: )

[Rayosunshine]

CA talking about the car smell and Casey...and squirrels with LE.
GA talking about the gas cans that he is so obsessed with. George and his gas cans. How Casey would not let him look in the trunk.
Why is mom Casey lying about the smell of death in the car?
Unleashing the defense attorneys: parents claiming that they have NOT been using the car (Casey's) during that critical time frame. Everything Casey has said has been a lie. Can't tell the truth to save Caylee's life. What other dead body could have been in the trunk?
NG: If a client comes to you and says that it was an accident and they were responsible and the body was hidden at X what does the attorney do? Attorney: Will someone else be harmed? No. Council may have to drop the case or consult with someone else (another attorney). Puts the attorney in a horrible place. NG cuts him off flippantly in anger.
NG poses question to another attorney: No attorney will go to the prosecution because they can lose their license.
NG says it is an ongoing crime to conceal this crime and body. But according to the attorney it is not their duty to reveal this and will remain silent.
NG goes back to other attorney she cut off...might approach the prosecution with a hypothetical if we know where the body is...what might you do for us?
Caller: Doesn't mention the twins. From the time when grandma Cindy the vehicle and the time LE got it...did anything degrade...
Koby defense's expert for Casey: Chloroform will not degrade DNA.
Towed in late June. The Anthony's got it back the day before of the day they called LE. Certainly time to clean out the car. Neighbors saw the car and them or something to that effect.

I can't believe NG doesn't know about attorney/client privileges, or is she just trying to show this scenario to the public?

[SavannahStar]

SS
I think I get what you are saying well maybe.

If it were an accident followed by her not calling 911 and then all this bull including what would then be abuse of a body. All the while her definite lack of remorse and instead actual rejoyce in parting, sex, thievery and deception......could be considered as bad as premeditated murder. Therefore no mercy......??

In my opinion, yes. You pretty much understood what I posted. The cover-up and all it entailed. If I were on a jury and that was the outcome, I'd want her to get the max allowable. No mercy.

[kitty1182]

but of course.

More evidence of the whole anthony family covering up for casey.

Regardless of what has been said publicly, the anthony family no longer cares about caylee.

It's all about saving casey's butt.

amen!!!!! Amen!!!

[hamebone]

I guess my point is that he is posting in the middle of the Casey Anthony case on a message board. If it weren't for her, we wouldn't even know who he is. I can understand him wanting to read but I am still not sure if was wise for him to post. There could be a potential juror on that board.

I understand what you are saying Katt.

:seeya:

[SavannahStar]

A potential juror would probly NOT be a juror if the judge /prosecution/defense knew they were on a message board posting their opinions on this case...would they? (i would hope not)
(really i have no clue but it doesnt seem right..:shrug: )

Oh Lawd I hope not.

[101Spots]

Spending the day with Caylee is ten times more exhausting than working a twelve hour event.

What did Casey mean by that?

Casey never worked any twelve hour event.

I suppose that would depend on the definition of "event." :D

[spiritwolf46]

But of course.

More evidence of the whole Anthony family covering up for Casey.

Regardless of what has been said publicly, the Anthony family no longer cares about Caylee.

It's all about saving Casey's butt.

I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO agree with this! Caylee has not been on their minds one iota, it is all about saving Casey's butt. They know what has happened! There is no doubt in my mind.

:rose:For Caylee

[Rayosunshine]

:eek: neighbors saw the anthonys cleaning out caseys car?? did i just hear that right on NG??


Did the neighbor say it?

[kitty1182]

Well ........faking it is hard work.:tongue:

Got that right:o

[Katt2]

A potential juror would probly NOT be a juror if the judge /prosecution/defense knew they were on a message board posting their opinions on this case...would they? (i would hope not)
(really i have no clue but it doesnt seem right..:shrug: )

That's a really good point.

[kakax]

Spending the day with Caylee is ten times more exhausting than working a twelve hour event.

What did Casey mean by that?

Casey never worked any twelve hour event.



Now, now LS....she could have worked a 12 hour event...I just haven't heard of any man that can do that. :D

[Joan Weiss]

He would not be the first LE to lurk/post on crime boards. jmoI have never seen LE involved in an investigation post on a message board. I have seen clerks in their office, though. I don't believe it.

If you have links post them.

[SavannahStar]

Did the neighbor say it?

I didn't hear that the way others did. Just that the car was back there, for a number of days......"the neighbors saw it"......not cleaning the car. IMO.

[Joan Weiss]

A potential juror would probly NOT be a juror if the judge /prosecution/defense knew they were on a message board posting their opinions on this case...would they? (i would hope not)
(really i have no clue but it doesnt seem right..:shrug: )No, not if they're honest and admit it. I believe that's one of the potential juror questions. imo

[day2day]

Oh Lawd I hope not.

Well i would hope not-but its Florida..ya never know-lol!! jmo

[SavannahStar]

I think LE should read message boards. They can certainly learn a lot. I'm sure they do it all the time. We all know by reading these boards we read things that make us think differently.

I think that's a bit different...just reading/monitoring the various crime boards, and there's plenty of 'em. I think literally posting, as your own self, in that situation is unethical. Sure he hasn't posted about the case, and claims he won't discuss the case. Well why make himself known, even? :confused: Wonder what his PMs might look like though. Those are NOT public. :D Hmmmmmm.

[shelbar53]

Did the neighbor say it?

a reporter said that about the neighbors...so much info we dont know

[bchand]

Isnt he out on sick leave? He isnt working on the case at this time is he?

He said the doctor told him he would be out for about 6 wks IIRC.

[Rayosunshine]

But of course.

More evidence of the whole Anthony family covering up for Casey.

Regardless of what has been said publicly, the Anthony family no longer cares about Caylee.

It's all about saving Casey's butt.

I don't think the Anthony family really cared about Caylee before this happened. How could they not know something was not right for almost 3 years. They kept their heads buried in the sand. MOO

[SavannahStar]

No, not if they're honest and admit it. I believe that's one of the potential juror questions. imo

I think so too, Joan. I'm sure I've heard that.

[Joan Weiss]

I didn't hear that the way others did. Just that the car was back there, for a number of days......"the neighbors saw it"......not cleaning the car. IMO.That's not true. The car was picked up the next AM. "The neighbors saw them cleaning the car." That's exactly what was said.

[mosey2]

Woah! According to LP Cindy put her hands around Casey's throat and almost choked the life out of her on the evening of june15th. He heard it from Lee!:chicken:

[kitty1182]

That's not true. The car was picked up the next AM. "The neighbors saw them cleaning the car." That's exactly what was said.


.......:beer:

[Joan Weiss]

He said the doctor told him he would be out for about 6 wks IIRC.Anybody would know that.

[trich]

A potential juror would probly NOT be a juror if the judge /prosecution/defense knew they were on a message board posting their opinions on this case...would they? (i would hope not)
(really i have no clue but it doesnt seem right..:shrug: )

well they will have a heck of a time finding anyone who does not have an opinion about this case IMO.
All they have to say is they will listen to the evidence and then make their decision.
doesn't mean it is true but unless they can prove they lied there is no reason not to put them on jury.
Anyone who has heard about Caylee is going to have an opinion.

[bchand]

I think LE should read message boards. They can certainly learn a lot. I'm sure they do it all the time. We all know by reading these boards we read things that make us think differently.


He said they DO read boards. This IS 2008. Look how much info was garnered by getting to Cindy's and Casey's facebook fast for instance.

I think that those who object to him posting should just go over there and tell him that and leave it alone here.

[hamebone]

Did the neighbor say it?

Wasnt it the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from. didnt he say in his interview, that he saw the car in the driveway with the doors and trunk opened..like they were going through it and airing it out?

I know, I read that in the doc dump somewhere.

[spiritwolf46]

Woah! According to LP Cindy put her hands around Casey's throat and almoset choked the life out of her on the evening of june15th. He heard it from Lee!:chicken:

I know! I just heard that too! :eek:

[kitty1182]

Woah! According to LP Cindy put her hands around Casey's throat and almoset choked the life out of her on the evening of june15th. He heard it from Lee!:chicken:

Yes, that is why I think Casey left during the night with Caylee, when ma and pa were sleeping...

[SavannahStar]

How could that be? They picked the car up on the 15th from the tow yard and LE confiscated it on the 16th....?


Scratch that. All I remember hearing is that the neighbors saw IT, meaning the car. I didn't hear that they saw them cleaning the car. Maybe they did? We'll see with the transcript. Where's the neighbor's interview, if that's the case? Which neighbor?

[mosey2]

I know! I just heard that too! :eek:
Squeeze harder, Cindy!

[desmom]

Woah! According to LP Cindy put her hands around Casey's throat and almost choked the life out of her on the evening of june15th. He heard it from Lee!:chicken:

I was making tea. Did LP say she left that evening? TIA

[day2day]

I don't think the Anthony family really cared about Caylee before this happened. How could they not know something was not right for almost 3 years. They kept their heads buried in the sand. MOO

I believe you are right ...It breaks my heart -but i think you are right. I just have never understood how they could NOT search for Caylee. Heartbreaking...jmo

[playnice]

Well I believe my original theory is the correct one. Big fight between Cindy & Casey over GP money. Casey left mad and took it out on Caylee. I thought recently premeditation but if Cindy turned violent and choked Casey almost out as Lenny says,I dont think premeditation.
If Caylee saw all this happen and cried for GM, Casey may have lost it and choked her or hit her to her death.

[Pruddennce]

Hey Pru, Don't forget the man next door who says he heard fighting coming from their house. Wasn't he talking about the night of the 15th?

nana, I havent read everyone's statement yet. But IIRC, he didnt mention that.

best regards,
Pru

[SavannahStar]

He said they DO read boards. This IS 2008. Look how much info was garnered by getting to Cindy's and Casey's facebook fast for instance.

I think that those who object to him posting should just go over there and tell him that and leave it alone here.


It was brought up here, that is why it was discussed here. Maybe those who think it's great that he's posting, should go over there and tell him that, THERE? Geez.

Hey I think it's unethical that he's posting. I don't wish to bother going over there and telling him so. He's probably reading here too, so he can find out what I said. I'm sure it will really impress him. :lol:

[day2day]

Squeeze harder, Cindy!

She could squeeze her neck over MONEY -but NOT over Caylee..hammer

[BANJO GRANNY]

Now, now LS....she could have worked a 12 hour event...I just haven't heard of any man that can do that. :D

Me either, if ya find one let me know;)




:rose:For Baby Caylee

[shelbar53]

Scratch that. All I remember hearing is that the neighbors saw IT, meaning the car. I didn't hear that they saw them cleaning the car. Maybe they did? We'll see with the transcript. Where's the neighbor's interview, if that's the case? Which neighbor?

I think the reporters down there get alot of scoop from neighbors but they dont print that, and who knows what LE has. I bet the local people know so much more little tid bits of info.

[Rayosunshine]

Yes, that is why I think Casey left during the night with Caylee, when ma and pa were sleeping...

Could be Casey left taking Caylee with her to protect her child.

Go ahead, jump on me, I don't care.

[mosey2]

I was making tea. Did LP say she left that evening? TIAHe didn't say. He got the info about the throttling from Brother Lee. I dont think Lee would know if she left or not. I wonder if Lee learned of the incedent from Casey, Cindy or George, although George was at work when Cindy and Casey got into it that night.

[Joan Weiss]

It is exhausting chasing after a little one..I can vouch for that. I watch my GD and when my hubby comes from work...i go into the Bedroom for a 15 minute break. and I love my GD more than life...Yep, but we're grannies. :D

[hamebone]

Scratch that. All I remember hearing is that the neighbors saw IT, meaning the car. I didn't hear that they saw them cleaning the car. Maybe they did? We'll see with the transcript. Where's the neighbor's interview, if that's the case? Which neighbor?

I thought it was the same neighbor she borrowed the shovel from. His 2nd interview.

[Joan Weiss]

He didn't say. He got the info about the throttling from Brother Lee. I dont think Lee would know if she left or not. I wonder if Lee learned of the incedent from Casey, Cindy or George, although George was at work when Cindy and Casey got into it that night.Lee didn't tell that in his interview. :confused:

[SavannahStar]

I missed it ... NG's voice makes me spontaneously bolt from the room unexpectedly on occasion.....


:lol: Don't let Regina hear you say that.....:chicken:

[st777jo]

Now, now LS....she could have worked a 12 hour event...I just haven't heard of any man that can do that. :D

How about more than one in that 12 hr. event??

[shelbar53]

where was george the night of the 15th? work?

[day2day]

Could be Casey left taking Caylee with her to protect her child.

Go ahead, jump on me, I don't care.

Or if Caylee saw all of this she was freaking out and Casey gave her too much xanax/chloroform -whatever to calm her down?! :shrug:
jmo

[kitty1182]

Could be Casey left taking Caylee with her to protect her child.

Go ahead, jump on me, I don't care.

Remember Casey saying she was a spiteful B****?

[mosey2]

She could squeeze her neck over MONEY -but NOT over Caylee..hammer
No kidding. It's a sad statement to their priorities, isn't it?

[Joan Weiss]

Who do you beleive, Lenny said that Casey left the night of the 15th, George says he saw Casey leave on the 16th, they both can't be right....

JMONo, that wasn't on the 16th.

[msjoni]

It's probally not for real anyways, but I did pm you..:)

No, its for real, that moderator checks things out good before they're allowed to post....

[bhardy1956]

Well, I just heard on NG that BH said that the night of the 15th of June, the big fight was GCA put her hands around CA neck, because she was so upset that she stole from her parents and that is what drove Casey to leave in a huff and CA is feeling very guilty about that, so she is covering herself with lies, upon lies...

Well, here is my thought, I would have probably done the same thing with my daughter!!!!! I would have pushed my daughter out, but kept my grandbaby at home with me, and if there were any trouble I would have called the police right then and there on my daughter! No guilt for me!!!!

I would have still have my grandbaby with me, where the Anthony's don't. IMO

I could see me putting my hands on Casey neck to, well maybe not, but I would have been really, really pizzed!!!

[mosey2]

Remember Casey saying she was a spiteful B****?Exactly. It was no accident.

No way, no how, no doubt.

[Rayosunshine]

Lee didn't tell that in his interview. :confused:

Maybe LE didn't know about the fight. If no one told them it's possible. And, Lee didn't offer the information. Don't ask, Don't tell.

Edited to say: or maybe there was a follow-up interview and it has not been released?

[Pruddennce]

Scratch that. All I remember hearing is that the neighbors saw IT, meaning the car. I didn't hear that they saw them cleaning the car. Maybe they did? We'll see with the transcript. Where's the neighbor's interview, if that's the case? Which neighbor?

Burner, the neighbor, said he saw Casey's car 3x in one week, the week of June 20th. from his statement, I just read it real fast here for a moment, he didnt mention the car after it was returned home from the impound.

best regards,
Pru

[trich]

I know! I just heard that too! :eek:

That is not new news....
But that is why I don't think Cindy tucked Caylee and Casey in that night like she said.

[Joan Weiss]

Could be Casey left taking Caylee with her to protect her child.

Go ahead, jump on me, I don't care.Cindy wasn't fighting with Caylee, she was fighting with Casey. imo

[Rayosunshine]

Well, I just heard on NG that BH said that the night of the 15th of June, the big fight was GCA put her hands around CA neck, because she was so upset that she stole from her parents and that is what drove Casey to leave in a huff and CA is feeling very guilty about that, so she is covering herself with lies, upon lies...

Well, here is my thought, I would have probably done the same thing with my daughter!!!!! I would have pushed my daughter out, but kept my grandbaby at home with me, and if there were any trouble I would have called the police right then and there on my daughter! No guilt for me!!!!

I would have still have my grandbaby with me, where the Anthony's don't. IMO

I could see me putting my hands on Casey neck to, well maybe not, but I would have been really, really pizzed!!!

Too bad the grandmother didn't act in her granddaughter's best interest.

[playnice]

Could be Casey left taking Caylee with her to protect her child.

Go ahead, jump on me, I don't care.

May have been her intention but something got way out of control.Maybe Casey was so upset and distraught by what happened that she wasnt paying attention and ran over her.

I tend to think not because of the spiteful B statement.
Any way you go the whole thing is tragic though. The guilt Cindy will have to live with and poor George, stuck in the middle of these two women and having to hide his grief about his GD.
Very sad case. I do believe the 15th was the showdown to destruction .
There was a dead body in that car. There is just way too many people smelled it.

Something bad happened and Id really like to think it was a tragic accident. I cant stand the thought of a mother murdering her child.

[Joan Weiss]

If Cindy physically assaulted her .. then ..hell yes it's possible.
It also could have been a blow out bigger than any in the past ...and Casey knew her little house of cards was about to be obliterated.Imo, Cindy just learned from her mother that day that Casey took money out of GF's account. That's what the fight was about. imo

[Rayosunshine]

If Cindy physically assaulted her .. then ..hell yes it's possible.
It also could have been a blow out bigger than any in the past ...and Casey knew her little house of cards was about to be obliterated.

I am actually looking forward to hearing about the real Cindy, when this case goes to court. I think that is where the bombshells are going to be falling like rain.

[Rayosunshine]

Cindy wasn't fighting with Caylee, she was fighting with Casey. imo

I know that. If my mother tried to choke me violently, regardless of what I had done, I sure wouldn't leave my child in the home with her if I were leaving.

[shelbar53]

If Cindy physically assaulted her .. then ..hell yes it's possible.
It also could have been a blow out bigger than any in the past ...and Casey knew her little house of cards was about to be obliterated.

and cindy went to universal july 3rd looking for caylee..maybe she found out for sure that casey didnt work there and that was boiling inside her, then the credit card stuff, the greatgrand mas account...all came to head when the car was towed and the bill was over $500

[spiritwolf46]

That is not new news....
But that is why I don't think Cindy tucked Caylee and Casey in that night like she said.

WOW Trich! It sure was new news to me! How did I miss that tidbit? Anyone else know where this could be followed up on?

TIA!

[day2day]

No kidding. It's a sad statement to their priorities, isn't it?

Yes it is mosey. I believe once they realized that Caylee was gone-this has turned into a $$$ thing. Someone in that family has money. I have to work 40 hours a week to provide for my littleone and i. I could not afford one attorney -like Najeme. The Anthony's have Najeme-body guards-limos..Casey has Baez and pi's and Kobe..and as far as i know the ONLY one working is George. There is no way his salary and Cindy's workers comp is payin for all of this. Someone is cashing in.

jmo

[kitty1182]

Starting to have a storm here..See ya'll later..:seeya:

[msjoni]

But of course.

More evidence of the whole Anthony family covering up for Casey.

Regardless of what has been said publicly, the Anthony family no longer cares about Caylee.

It's all about saving Casey's butt.

Poor Caylee:rose:
I find that absolutely horrendous that the family doesn't give two hoots about Caylee.......

[Joan Weiss]

Except for Casey, they all loved Caylee very much I'm sure.

But after they all realized Casey did indeed murder Caylee... it's been nothing but save Casey's butt.Hi, LS. :seeya:

ITA. They're not going to jump ship, imo. They don't want Casey to be sent to prison. Baez has probably told them they need to stand behind her.

imo

[ellegna]

:eek: neighbors saw the anthonys cleaning out caseys car?? did i just hear that right on NG??


I can appreciate Cindy not knowing better but George certainly knows the importance preserving evidence.

Please tell me tampering with evidence is a crime :(

[mosey2]

LP said it is his belief that the Anthony's KNOW Caylee is dead. The reason Cindy is having a hard time coming to terms with it, is because she feels she may have "forced" Casey out that night with her choking her daughter.
IMO, that would lead logically to Cindy felling as if she is responsible for Caylees demise.

So, therefor Cindy is not willing to think that she is in any way, shape or form, accountable for her granddaughters death

To further the illusion, George may have constructed the sighting of Casey and Caylee on the afternoon of the 16th.

"See, Cindy is not responsible, because Casey didnt leave as a impulse reaction to Cindy's aggression. Casey left calmly, composed after a good night sleep."
IMO

[desmom]

Brittany saw the car in the driveway with the trunk open. She saw George & Cindy milling around the area, but not in the trunk. Then LE arrived.

Page 1247 or Page #85 of the documents dumped on 9/23

jmo

[msjoni]

He would not be the first LE to lurk/post on crime boards. jmo

He said he visits other sites and so do other detectives....

[day2day]

Starting to have a storm here..See ya'll later..:seeya:

stay safe kitty-...sweet dreams! :seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

and cindy went to universal july 3rd looking for caylee..maybe she found out for sure that casey didnt work there and that was boiling inside her, then the credit card stuff, the greatgrand mas account...all came to head when the car was towed and the bill was over $500Close, I just read the interview today, it was $466.00. Cindy was angry because she had to pay $35.00 for the registered letter they sent to her. imo

[spiritwolf46]

Starting to have a storm here..See ya'll later..:seeya:


Be safe Kitty! :seeya:

[kakax]

Starting to have a storm here..See ya'll later..:seeya:

Run Kitty Run!!! Stay safe!:seeya:

[bchand]

I think something happened on the night of the 15th.
I also think it's possible GA is mistaken, but more likely that he felt that he needed to steer attention away from the 15th and have an account of Casey and Caylee being just fine on the 16th.

I agree. It makes the most sense. George is definitely bending the truth "for some reason."

He was adament in his statement to the police about the smell though ! Whew.

[day2day]

I can appreciate Cindy not knowing better but George certainly knows the importance preserving evidence.

Please tell me tampering with evidence is a crime :(

Cindy admitted in her interview-that she knew what a dead body smelled like-(andsomethingboutaburnedbody) -imo SHE knew that there had been a body in that car. She should have left it alone.

[mosey2]

i think something happened on the night of the 15th.
I also think it's possible ga is mistaken, but more likely that he felt that he needed to steer attention away from the 15th and have an account of casey and caylee being just fine on the 16th.
'zactly!!!

[Joan Weiss]

He said he visits other sites and so do other detectives....That's not the same as identifying yourself and posting.

[barskin&co.]

Really a show tonite that's spinning it's own wheels. Literally nothing new...just wheel spinnage...

Interview of GA with LE audio.
LE talking about how tough a homicide case is without a body. The whole Walker Texas Ranger three second case comment.
LPadilla: Padilla is not shaving and looks gross. IS LE gearing up for a murder arrest. LE doesn't have a body. The fight on the 15th is what started it all. Casey left that night. It was a fight with Cindy. George was not even in the house that night of the fight. Cindy feels guilty. George is not as much knowing what is going on. Padilla said that Cindy didn't react when they told her the baby is dead. Cindy is lying because she cannot deal with the truth. Cindy needs to accept that she is the one that caused Casey to leave the house that night on the 15th of June.
NG said that Casey was acting on her own volition.
CIndy tried to choke Casey that night and put her hands around Casey's throat and scared the crud out of Casey because of the money that was stolen from the GGP's. Lee has this information according to Padilla and will confirm it. Cindy needs to accept her role in causing Casey to leave.
Has a composite of ZFG drawn NG asks Mike Brooks? NO. You could be putting out a fictional sketch...it is a waste of time...especially if LE doesn't believe it is true...it will hurt the case in trial because the defense in trial could say that LE believed there was a ZFG and put out a sketch of such.
ZFG is on the witness list. The same one suing the Anthony's and the same one who knows nothing and that LE has talked to.
Defamation filed against Casey by ZFG. Does Zfg have a chance? Most of the attorneys think so. Judgement will likely be worthless if it is obtained because they really have no moolah...Everyone think that her name is distinctive (ZFG) and that she has been damaged in the case.
Jesse Grund is on the witness list....he will likely talk about how Casey was a chameleon, that she was a diabolical liar and could do alll sorts of things that were not in her normal character to fit in.
More police interrogation: GA talking to LE. How Caylee has been with Zanny and how George wanted to see and talk to Caylee and that the 16th was the last time he saw Caylee with Casey...the backpacks...on both...

Thanks, LittleBitty. I was at Rosh Hashona dinner. Now, I don't have to watch Nancy at 10 pm.

[Joan Weiss]

As far as Cindy choking Casey, NG asked L Padillo how he knew Cindy did that. He said ask Lee, he'll tell you she did. So that part sounds like fact. As to George making it up that he saw C&C the next afternoon at 10 till 2, NG didn't ask Padillo to verify whether he just thought that or if someone had told him Casey left the night before.Cindy said in her interview that she couldn't be sure if Casey might have gone out the window. imo

[day2day]

Thanks, LittleBitty. I was at Rosh Hashona dinner. Now, I don't have to watch Nancy at 10 pm.

Happy New Year...!!! And -we had to sit through it-you can too! :D

[st777jo]

I know that. If my mother tried to choke me violently, regardless of what I had done, I sure wouldn't leave my child in the home with her if I were leaving.

But I don't think I would have let Casey leave with Caylee. I think I would have told Casey that I would call the cops and report the theft and threaten to have her arrested.

[Rayosunshine]

I argue this point with my husband almost daily:

How is it possible to live in the same home with your child, whom you have known for 22 years and not know anything. Not sure, but have heard that it is possible that Casey was not a HS grad. How much do you think she could earn on the job? My guess is not much more than minimum wage, which 3 years ago was less than it is today - I think it's $5.85/day. I know the cost of day care varies from area to area, but were I live, if you have a child in diapers, the cost is $160.00/week - that's Kindercare - my granddaughter went there. Once potty trained the cost drops. If Casey were earning $5.65/hour for 40 hours, her gross would be $226.00. She might have day care covered.

I don't think Casey's parents were even aware that Casey and Caylee lived under their roof. This just makes no sense to me. I know Casey wasn't working, well duh. I guess she just had to cruise around with her baby and pretend she was working to appease her parents.

[shelbar53]

George Anthony states, in his interview with detectives, that he was watching a show on the Food Network. He says 'that's a dog gone fact.'

In the Greta interview... Cindy jumped in & said George was watching the Food Network.

And Cindy wasn't there when George was watching whatever he was watching.

This family is covering for Casey.

Plain as day.

Let's not forget they all had the wrong date of June 9th as the last time anyone in the family saw Caylee alive.


didnt george say on greta that he looked in the turnk. but with LE he said he didnt look in the trunk?

[margaret kep]

I was googling Caylee and ran across this.....you might want to grab the tissues...

http://respectance.com/Caylee_Anthony/memorial?gclid=CJCH6NvahJYCFQWlQAodJ0kXFw


:rose: Precious Little Caylee

May you be dancing with the angels on the fluffy clouds that all our love here at the board send up to you dear CAYLEE.:rose:

[playnice]

But I don't think I would have let Casey leave with Caylee. I think I would have told Casey that I would call the cops and report the theft and threaten to have her arrested.

I just thought of something that may have been discussed. I bet Caylee was wearing the clothes she had on when she was sitting on GGP lap.

[hamebone]

Thanks, LittleBitty. I was at Rosh Hashona dinner. Now, I don't have to watch Nancy at 10 pm.

Happy Holy Holiday

Bar...:seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

George Anthony states, in his interview with detectives, that he was watching a show on the Food Network. He says 'that's a dog gone fact.'

In the Greta interview... Cindy jumped in & said George was watching the Food Network.

And Cindy wasn't there when George was watching whatever he was watching.

This family is covering for Casey.

Plain as day.

Let's not forget they all had the wrong date of June 9th as the last time anyone in the family saw Caylee alive.Yes, what's the odds that they all got the date of June 9th wrong? That's very telling, imo.

[trich]

WOW Trich! It sure was new news to me! How did I miss that tidbit? Anyone else know where this could be followed up on?

TIA!


Not sure if it is in the transcripts or not...but I read it somewhere.
Or possibly Padilla said before tonight.

[hamebone]

George Anthony states, in his interview with detectives, that he was watching a show on the Food Network. He says 'that's a dog gone fact.'

In the Greta interview... Cindy jumped in & said George was watching the Food Network.

And Cindy wasn't there when George was watching whatever he was watching.

This family is covering for Casey.

Plain as day.

Let's not forget they all had the wrong date of June 9th as the last time anyone in the family saw Caylee alive.


Once again distancing the target date away from the 15th.

I dont know if there was a big blow up between Cindy and Casey or not...but if it was, you would think they would remember the date.

[mosey2]

Hard to beleive the money was the only reason for a fight ,since Casey had spent ( some say 40K) on moms credit card , ummm I think Cindy knew that way before June 15th!

I mean it was purchaes here and there ,not some wild over a one month period of spending and THEN the BILL rolled in .............................................


So WHAT was the fight really about .....how did Cindy find out about grandpa's account and what was it Casey took from grandap , anyone know ...........And no I really don;t have a problem talking tomyself here ..lol .I am a good sport like that! :)
I am reminded of Brother Rick saying that the APPEARANCE of harmony was most important to Cindy. Casey stealing from her (George has a seperate account) was managable. But NOW, Casey stole from family members, the very people Cindy was presenting a facade to. Dirty laundry aired in public was a HUGE no-no in Cindy's book.

[Joan Weiss]

But I don't think I would have let Casey leave with Caylee. I think I would have told Casey that I would call the cops and report the theft and threaten to have her arrested.Cindy should have called LE as soon as she learned of it. She should NOT have confronted Casey. What did she think that would accomplish? She should have put Caylee in a safe place and told Casey to get out. Casey would have been arrested, and Caylee would have been safe.

I think the choking (if she did, and with her temper I think she did) scared the he// out of Casey, and she got out of Dodge. I think LE wouldn't have let Casey leave with Caylee that night, since that's her home and that's where her things are. imo

[day2day]

Yes, what's the odds that they all got the date of June 9th wrong? That's very telling, imo.

I agree. :shrug:

[shelbar53]

Hard to beleive the money was the only reason for a fight ,since Casey had spent ( some say 40K) on moms credit card , ummm I think Cindy knew that way before June 15th!

I mean it was purchaes here and there ,not some wild over a one month period of spending and THEN the BILL rolled in .............................................


So WHAT was the fight really about .....how did Cindy find out about grandpa's account and what was it Casey took from grandap , anyone know ...........And no I really don;t have a problem talking tomyself here ..lol .I am a good sport like that! :)
The NH notifed ggm the account was empty...and i heard 4 -5 thousand but i think people heard it as 45 thousand

[Pruddennce]

But I don't think I would have let Casey leave with Caylee. I think I would have told Casey that I would call the cops and report the theft and threaten to have her arrested.

hindsight. thats what Cindy was doing when she finally got the nudge to track her down: abandoned car=nudge.

enough time went by for Cindy to finally have the 'nerve' to confront her daughter....Casey gave her a reason.....if the car was never abandoned, it probably would have been SIX months before anyone knew Caylee was gone.

the puzzle has finally come together, for me anyway, as to why Cindy and George were 'sitting this one out' when she left the home and didnt come back.

casey is an adult with a child....no one would be able to keep her in that house, with caylee, unless they proved incompetency or a dangerous situation existed for Caylee to remain with Casey.

who knows, Casey could have been slamming words at her that she was going to report CINDY to LE for attacking her? (if its true)

IMO, Cindy was part of the equation for the exit. why else would they both sit back and not try to find her....heck, George followed her once, but lost her in a car chase...why not try again?

lots of dynamics going on here.

IMO, the nite of the 15th was the big exit. both parties were insufferable. except casey took it a step further because she had her own agenda....by taking caylee out of the equation, she could enjoy her life without answering to her mother about what kind of mother she was.

she wouldnt be a mother anymore. and she had no intention of coming home with or without a child.

sounds crazy....Ummmmmm yeah! but IMO she is a psychopath and the future for psychos is not part of their thinking process.

they disconnect.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[summer4meplz]

Hi, it's in Jessie G. statement that he had sex with Casey around 11-04 or 12-04 but did not know her. He states he first met her in 01-05 officially and that's why he thought he was baby daddy. But she was preg by some one other than Jessie. SODDI as NG always says.


I KNEW I had heard that somewhere.....I'm dying to know if JP Chatt was his roommate during this time....It could have been a bachelor type of party where everyone gets to...you know.....the stripper or whatever....imo purely speculation....is that permissable?

[barskin&co.]

I am reminded of Brother Rick saying that the APPEARANCE of harmony was most important to Cindy. Casey stealing from her (George has a seperate account) was managable. But NOW, Casey stole from family members, the very people Cindy was presenting a facade to. Dirty laundry aired in public was a HUGE no-no in Cindy's book.

That makes sense.

You know at dinner tonight- family and friends- nobody gave a hoot about this case. Nobody wanted to talk about it (which was frustrating). If they change the venue of the trial away from Orlando, I don't think they will have any trouble seating a jury. Not everybody is nuts like we are.

[msjoni]

I think something happened on the night of the 15th.
I also think it's possible GA is mistaken, but more likely that he felt that he needed to steer attention away from the 15th and have an account of Casey and Caylee being just fine on the 16th.

I also recall George saying in the beginning of this case that the last day he saw Caylee was June 8th....

[shelbar53]

someone asked this the other day. If the car was NEVER found and caylee still missing...would cindy and george brough the police in? Or if cindy would have waited a few hours and got more of the story from casey that first night..would she still have called LE?

[mosey2]

That makes sense.

You know at dinner tonight- family and friends- nobody gave a hoot about this case. Nobody wanted to talk about it (which was frustrating). If they change the venue of the trial away from Orlando, I don't think they will have any trouble seating a jury. Not everybody is nuts like we are.
Now see, Barskin, if you had invited any of us, we could have all sat at the low table and chatted away while munching a nice dinner. Remember that for next time

[Joan Weiss]

I am reminded of Brother Rick saying that the APPEARANCE of harmony was most important to Cindy. Casey stealing from her (George has a seperate account) was managable. But NOW, Casey stole from family members, the very people Cindy was presenting a facade to. Dirty laundry aired in public was a HUGE no-no in Cindy's book.No, the money in the GP's account was specifically for GP's care in the nursing home. I suspect Casey drained it, and GP was in danger of being hung out to dry. Despicable. imo

[summer4meplz]

I also recall George saying in the beginning of this case that the last day he saw Caylee was June 8th....

Yet on the police report, it says June 6....that easily could be a typo...I've noticed a few.....which confuses everyone even more...

ng was wrong about the timeline...iirc...casey wasn't arrested until the 16th..ng said she was arrested the same day as the police coming and talking to her initially...unless i misunderstood her...which is possible ...sheesh...trying to maintain my life and be an armchair detective is hard!! imo

[GentleBreeze]

Hard to believe the money was the only reason for a fight ,since Casey had spent ( some say 40K) on moms credit card , ummm I think Cindy knew that way before June 15th!

I mean it was purchases here and there ,not some wild over a one month period of spending and THEN the BILL rolled in .............................................


So WHAT was the fight really about .....how did Cindy find out about grandpa's account and what was it Casey took from grandap , anyone know ...........And no I really don;t have a problem talking to myself here ..lol .I am a good sport like that! :)

I am sure the assisted living home called Cindy.

Was the large amount taken from the credit cards? I thought it was a large amount taken from her grandparent and Cindy had to withdraw a part of her 401K to pay it back. Cindy must be the legal Guardian over her father.

I would be absolutely furious if a child of mine stoled anything at all but to steal from their own elderly grandparent is just unforgivable. She has the morals of an alley cat and she is lower than a snake's belly. She cares about nothing but herself.

imoo

[shelbar53]

That makes sense.

You know at dinner tonight- family and friends- nobody gave a hoot about this case. Nobody wanted to talk about it (which was frustrating). If they change the venue of the trial away from Orlando, I don't think they will have any trouble seating a jury. Not everybody is nuts like we are.

your having dinner with the wrong people...come have dinner with me. :beer:

[nana6]

Cindy should have called LE as soon as she learned of it. She should NOT have confronted Casey. What did she think that would accomplish? She should have put Caylee in a safe place and told Casey to get out. Casey would have been arrested, and Caylee would have been safe.

I think the choking (if she did, and with her temper I think she did) scared the he// out of Casey, and she got out of Dodge. I think LE wouldn't have let Casey leave with Caylee that night, since that's her home and that's where her things are. imo

And I believe I was correct hours ago when I posted that the neighbor who lent Casey the shovel heard a fight going on at the A home on the NIGHT of the 15th. Someone said I was wrong and that it was the weekend but it was the night of the 15th after Cindy came back from her visit with her father.

[Pruddennce]

I am reminded of Brother Rick saying that the APPEARANCE of harmony was most important to Cindy. Casey stealing from her (George has a seperate account) was managable. But NOW, Casey stole from family members, the very people Cindy was presenting a facade to. Dirty laundry aired in public was a HUGE no-no in Cindy's book.


hmmm...but thats where it gets wierd....Cindy called Casey's friend, Ryan weeks before the 15th telling him to stop associating with Casey..she told him she was a thief, she wanted to compare notes about lies she told.....

it seems to me that Cindy was selective in who to discuss what with....

(lots of w's...lol).....and it appears it wasnt with her contemporaries....it was with someone who she could CONTROL....or so she thought (because Ryan ignored her and called Casey and invited her to a bar-b-q at his aunt's house).

best regards,
Pru

[rosejustrose]

Hi! I just got back from NJ and missed NG tonight? Did I miss anything? Worth a watch at 10? TIA.

[day2day]

Now see, Barskin, if you had invited any of us, we could have all sat at the low table and chatted away while munching a nice dinner. Remember that for next time

Right..not only did she forget to invite us to dinner-she missed Nancy Grace and NOW we are all nuts! Go figure!:D --

She really is right-as hard as it is to believe there are some people who could care less about this case!

jmo

[?noanswer]

Yet on the police report, it says June 6....that easily could be a typo...I've noticed a few.....which confuses everyone even more...

ng was wrong about the timeline...iirc...casey wasn't arrested until the 16th..ng said she was arrested the same day as the police coming and talking to her initially...unless i misunderstood her...which is possible ...sheesh...trying to maintain my life and be an armchair detective is hard!! imo


That's what I heard NG say and at the time I thought "that is not correct".


JMO

[Joan Weiss]

The NH notifed ggm the account was empty...and i heard 4 -5 thousand but i think people heard it as 45 thousandNo, the $45,000 was from Cindy's credit cards, just a rumor as far as I know.

Casey told Tony she had $15,000 in a B of A account. Maybe that's it. She used a routing # to steal it, so she had to have an account to route it to. imo

[bchand]

That makes sense.

You know at dinner tonight- family and friends- nobody gave a hoot about this case. Nobody wanted to talk about it (which was frustrating). If they change the venue of the trial away from Orlando, I don't think they will have any trouble seating a jury. Not everybody is nuts like we are.


I think you're right. My husband just came back from FL. He was in Ft Myers and Ft Lauderdale. I asked him if there was any conversation about this case. He said NONE.

[~jomomma~]

I am reminded of Brother Rick saying that the APPEARANCE of harmony was most important to Cindy. Casey stealing from her (George has a seperate account) was managable. But NOW, Casey stole from family members, the very people Cindy was presenting a facade to. Dirty laundry aired in public was a HUGE no-no in Cindy's book.


heh heh....it's all VERY public now, isn't it

[mosey2]

When you boil it down, it's always about arrogance and appearances with this family. You can explain just about everything they do within that framework.

They are about as far from honorable as it gets.

Do you remember Cindy's reaction to Yuri during the bond hearing, when he said he would get the information he needed straight from GF&GM, since Cindy was being unco-operative? Cindy was adamant that she didnt want even the cops to tell them about it.

Cindy also said "George and I have given you guys (LE) free reign."
HAH! as if...

[rosejustrose]

Cindy should have called LE as soon as she learned of it. She should NOT have confronted Casey. What did she think that would accomplish? She should have put Caylee in a safe place and told Casey to get out. Casey would have been arrested, and Caylee would have been safe.

I think the choking (if she did, and with her temper I think she did) scared the he// out of Casey, and she got out of Dodge. I think LE wouldn't have let Casey leave with Caylee that night, since that's her home and that's where her things are. imo

ITA. And, maybe that's why George's gun was hidden in his car. IMO, he was afraid that Cindy would use it on Casey. JMO.

[msjoni]

Yeah .. but that wasn't exactly the dog gone truth was it....

Nope, and that's why I believe Leonard Padillo over George...I think everything happened Sunday June 15th....

[barskin&co.]

The NH notifed ggm the account was empty...and i heard 4 -5 thousand but i think people heard it as 45 thousand

Oh, no that sounds right. If Casey has stolen money in the tens of thousands, it is kind of unimaginable how she could have spent it all, and I have yet to hear of there being some cache of dough that she stashed. If Casey's birthday was 3/19, she could easily go through 4 to 5 thousand.

[GentleBreeze]

No, the $45,000 was from Cindy's credit cards, just a rumor as far as I know.

Casey told Tony she had $15,000 in a B of A account. Maybe that's it. She used a routing # to steal it, so she had to have an account to route it to. imo

What in the world was she buying? They supported her?:shrug:

[bchand]

That's what I heard NG say and at the time I "thought that is not correct".


JMO

True. But it was continuous contact from late evening on the 15th through the night and into the 16th right? So it may have seemed like it was the same day the 911 call was made, she was arrested.

[rosejustrose]

That makes sense.

You know at dinner tonight- family and friends- nobody gave a hoot about this case. Nobody wanted to talk about it (which was frustrating). If they change the venue of the trial away from Orlando, I don't think they will have any trouble seating a jury. Not everybody is nuts like we are.


I was surprised how many people in NJ and NY were up on what's going on. I think that's because they watch the Today show and Good Morning America as their morning news shows since they're local to the geo area. At my parent's anniversary party there was a lot of lively conversation going on about this case. JMO.

[playnice]

ITA. And, maybe that's why George's gun was hidden in his car. IMO, he was afraid that Cindy would use it on Casey. JMO.

Im wondering if Lee didnt call that tip in knowing how Cindy & Casey are and fearful that George may get enough of staying in that house with those lunitics and end it all.

[summer4meplz]

Then what's he doing on another message board, a CRIME message board, I believe? My opinion of him just dropped by about 500%.


why don't you read it before you criticize the man....he's a real person too....does he not have the right to do what he wants to....on his off hours? moo

[nana6]

someone asked this the other day. If the car was NEVER found and caylee still missing...would cindy and george brough the police in? Or if cindy would have waited a few hours and got more of the story from casey that first night..would she still have called LE?

No. IMO she would not have called. She called right before George walked in. When he did walk in she was on the phone with police and she told him Caylee was missing. He then asked her if she had called police and she said she was on the phone with them that minute. If George had come in before she called, I believe that call would not have been made then. Why, because he knew what happened and he would have informed her.

[rosejustrose]

someone asked this the other day. If the car was NEVER found and caylee still missing...would cindy and george brough the police in? Or if cindy would have waited a few hours and got more of the story from casey that first night..would she still have called LE?

I wonder if the car hadn't been found would Cindy have bothered to go looking for Casey? How would she have found her? She didn't know her knew friends and if she hadn't found Amy's number in the car she might not have ever caught up with before she bolted, if that's what she was going to do:shrug:

MOO

[day2day]

Shark -- what was the reason for them choosing the 9th? Any thoughts on how that date would help their spin on all this?

IMO-the fight on the 15th. Did the neighbors hear it? They obviously did NOT want Caylee's vanishing to be on a day that the neighbors heard a fight.
Sorta like the Nanny deal..Cindy said-WHO took Caylee-plan made-the NANNY did it?! jmo

[Pruddennce]

And I believe I was correct hours ago when I posted that the neighbor who lent Casey the shovel heard a fight going on at the A home on the NIGHT of the 15th. Someone said I was wrong and that it was the weekend but it was the night of the 15th after Cindy came back from her visit with her father.

you could be, but its unclear who the neighbor is?

LE would not have been able to keep Casey there.....

with a child in the equation, LE would have put the safety of the child first. Cindy would have been removed from the home if she was the accused IMO. or, if Casey wanted to leave, LE wouldnt do an investigation as to where she was going.

she's an adult. if she said Im going to my friend's house, whats LE going to do about that?

sigh a sigh of relief that the two of them at ends will be separated.

if there is nothing indicating Caylee was in danger with Casey, LE would not be able to do a thing.

Cindy could scream and rant and rave about her being a thief, but that has nothing to do with Casey as a mother and the safety of Caylee.

sad, but IMO, true.

best regards,
Pru

[Joan Weiss]

I am sure the assisted living home called Cindy.

Was the large amount taken from the credit cards? I thought it was a large amount taken from her grandparent and Cindy had to withdraw a part of her 401K to pay it back. Cindy must be the legal Guardian over her father.

I would be absolutely furious if a child of mine stoled anything at all but to steal from their own elderly grandparent is just unforgivable. She has the morals of an alley cat and she is lower than a snake's belly. She cares about nothing but herself.

imooWell said. Stealing from a sick old man. :cuss:

[barskin&co.]

Do you remember Cindy's reaction to Yuri during the bond hearing, when he said he would get the information he needed straight from GF&GM, since Cindy was being unco-operative? Cindy was adamant that she didnt want even the cops to tell them about it.

Cindy also said "George and I have given you guys (LE) free reign."
HAH! as if...

Her referring to giving LE "free reign" is certainly strange coming from a woman who franticly called 911 to report a kidnapping. People who seek out the help of police, victims of crime they would be called, normally do not hesitate to give them whatever they need to find a missing person and bring a perpetrator to justice. They don't talk like they are making some great concession to LE. They don’t talk like LE should be grateful to them.

[summer4meplz]

Yesterday WESH said there were 85 wittnesses, ng only says 82 did we lose 3 already?


may cindy couldn't get the 3 private investigators to "appear"

[Pruddennce]

I agree that George's heart is heavy. Unfortunately, he can't stand up to Cindy. So some of what he's spinning is on account of her. I get the feeling that George would tell the whole truth if it weren't for Cindy. But he's pretty beat down after years living with his controlling wife and his sociopath daughter. imo

well, he did file for divorce once.....wonder what made him reconcile?

best regards,
Pru

[mosey2]

hmmm...but thats where it gets wierd....Cindy called Casey's friend, Ryan weeks before the 15th telling him to stop associating with Casey..she told him she was a thief, she wanted to compare notes about lies she told.....

it seems to me that Cindy was selective in who to discuss what with....

(lots of w's...lol).....and it appears it wasnt with her contemporaries....it was with someone who she could CONTROL....or so she thought (because Ryan ignored her and called Casey and invited her to a bar-b-q at his aunt's house).

best regards,
Pru
Rick said he and Cindy are estranged. Cindy said in her interview that she doesnt talk to her brother Dan. Something must have happened in the family. My thinking is the family told Cindy they thought she wasnt raising Casey right, and Cindy wanted no more proof of that offered up to the family.
She probably didnt give a hoot about what Casey's friends thought of her. She was just looking for revenge on Casey lying and stealing from her.

"Casey is a lying, stealing sociopath"
Cindy tells Jesse "Why would you want to marry a girl like Casey"
She tells Tony "I hope you have alot of money because Casey will leave you high and dry"
She also offered alot of info about Casey to Amy in the car

She really didnt like her daughter very much, yet says, NOW, that she was a good mother. If that is the case, why did she want custody??

[Nellie]

I have a question...
In part of George's interview he says that Casey popped in to the house and he thought he startled her because his car was in the garage and she didn't think he was home. Anyway, he goes on to say that he asked about Caylee and said "we haven't seen the girl for over a week". I don't know what day this conversation supposedly happened. Does anyone else? This will give a timeline of sorts of it being over a week at this time since they had seen Caylee.

Off to research this.....

[bchand]

I almost forgot ,yes...what about the afternoon of the 16th of June and all the frantic phone calls ..........just how many calls were there to Cindy ,George and LEE anyone know how mahy and how far apart the calls were on June 16th ..............please.......MY PC is so screwy I can;t even open a PDF file!


Were there any to Lee? I thought she didn't include him, which I thought was strange, considering how close they are you know.

[nana6]

you could be, but its unclear who the neighbor is?

LE would not have been able to keep Casey there.....

with a child in the equation, LE would have put the safety of the child first. Cindy would have been removed from the home if she was the accused IMO. or, if Casey wanted to leave, LE wouldnt do an investigation as to where she was going.

she's an adult. if she said Im going to my friend's house, whats LE going to do about that?

sigh a sigh of relief that the two of them at ends will be separated.

if there is nothing indicating Caylee was in danger with Casey, LE would not be able to do a thing.

Cindy could scream and rant and rave about her being a thief, but that has nothing to do with Casey as a mother and the safety of Caylee.

sad, but IMO, true.

best regards,
Pru

Pru, I agree with your post. I forgot the neighbors name who lent Casey the shovel. He is the one, if I am correct, who said he heard them fighting on the night of the 25th.

[kakax]

Thanks, LittleBitty. I was at Rosh Hashona dinner. Now, I don't have to watch Nancy at 10 pm.



Happy Holiday to you Bar!!

[Cury-us Coyote]

Who do you beleive, Lenny said that Casey left the night of the 15th, George says he saw Casey leave on the 16th, they both can't be right....

JMO

IMO, Casey was is close proximity to her cell phone.

[bchand]

I have a question...
In part of George's interview he says that Casey popped in to the house and he thought he startled her because his car was in the garage and she didn't think he was home. Anyway, he goes on to say that he asked about Caylee and said "we haven't seen the girl for over a week". I don't know what day this conversation supposedly happened. Does anyone else? This will give a timeline of sorts of it being over a week at this time since they had seen Caylee.

Off to research this.....

Just a guess - June 24th?

[~jomomma~]

Smoke & mirrors.

Keeping law enforcement away from the actual date that Caylee was last seen alive.

The Father's Day video royally screwed that up though.

right!

along with what Guitarded posted above:

They all had the wrong date except Casey who stated in her excited utterance on the 911 call that she had not seen her daughter for 31 days.

[nana6]

Rick said he and Cindy are estranged. Cindy said in her interview that she doesnt talk to her brother Dan. Something must have happened in the family. My thinking is the family told Cindy they thought she wasnt raising Casey right, and Cindy wanted no more proof of that offered up to the family.
She probably didnt give a hoot about what Casey's friends thought of her. She was just looking for revenge on Casey lying and stealing from her.

"Casey is a lying, stealing sociopath"
Cindy tells Jesse "Why would you want to marry a girl like Casey"
She tells Tony "I hope you have alot of money because Casey will leave you high and dry"
She also offered alot of info about Casey to Amy in the car

She really didnt like her daughter very much, yet says, NOW, that she was a good mother. If that is the case, why did she want custody??

I do not know or understand the family dynamics of the A's but I would love to know who the father of Caylee is and whether or not he is an Anthony. It has been mentioned on here before.

[Pruddennce]

Rick said he and Cindy are estranged. Cindy said in her interview that she doesnt talk to her brother Dan. Something must have happened in the family. My thinking is the family told Cindy they thought she wasnt raising Casey right, and Cindy wanted no more proof of that offered up to the family.
She probably didnt give a hoot about what Casey's friends thought of her. She was just looking for revenge on Casey lying and stealing from her.

"Casey is a lying, stealing sociopath"
Cindy tells Jesse "Why would you want to marry a girl like Casey"
She tells Tony "I hope you have alot of money because Casey will leave you high and dry"
She also offered alot of info about Casey to Amy in the car

She really didnt like her daughter very much, yet says, NOW, that she was a good mother. If that is the case, why did she want custody??

your post brings me back to my recent thinking....who is out psycho-ing who.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[mosey2]

heh heh....it's all VERY public now, isn't it
Sure as shootin' is!! And its probably just KILLING Cindy!! poor thang

[msjoni]

No. IMO she would not have called. She called right before George walked in. When he did walk in she was on the phone with police and she told him Caylee was missing. He then asked her if she had called police and she said she was on the phone with them that minute. If George had come in before she called, I believe that call would not have been made then. Why, because he knew what happened and he would have informed her.

I think you're right...

[rosejustrose]

Rick said he and Cindy are estranged. Cindy said in her interview that she doesnt talk to her brother Dan. Something must have happened in the family. My thinking is the family told Cindy they thought she wasnt raising Casey right, and Cindy wanted no more proof of that offered up to the family.
She probably didnt give a hoot about what Casey's friends thought of her. She was just looking for revenge on Casey lying and stealing from her.

"Casey is a lying, stealing sociopath"
Cindy tells Jesse "Why would you want to marry a girl like Casey"
She tells Tony "I hope you have alot of money because Casey will leave you high and dry"
She also offered alot of info about Casey to Amy in the car

She really didnt like her daughter very much, yet says, NOW, that she was a good mother. If that is the case, why did she want custody??


Exactly, and to think she was talking about her best friend.:rolleyes:

[frances1]

Do you remember Cindy's reaction to Yuri during the bond hearing, when he said he would get the information he needed straight from GF&GM, since Cindy was being unco-operative? Cindy was adamant that she didnt want even the cops to tell them about it.

Cindy also said "George and I have given you guys (LE) free reign."
HAH! as if...

And who is Cindy to "give free rein"? She must think she's in charge of the world.

[mosey2]

your post brings me back to my recent thinking....who is out psycho-ing who.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru
Whew, wow....ahhm, yeaahh...
That one we'll have to leave to the experts...

Dr. Phil??

[panokatana]

Has anything been released from LE's visit to California to supposedly talk with Mark Hawkins? I'm interested if he might have had the idea she could have been heading out there...I know the last thing I heard was...that she "had told" her "parents" and would tell him later.

[Joan Weiss]

What in the world was she buying? They supported her?:shrug:Lee tells it in his interview with LE. That Casey said to Lee on the 15th she'd been stealing money from Cindy and from him. He didn't expand on that to LE, it seemed all water under the bridge. imo

[girlspell]

Hi! I just got back from NJ and missed NG tonight? Did I miss anything? Worth a watch at 10? TIA.


I guess it will be worth it. I didn't see much of it. I saw a little of it before they went to another case. It seems the LE has "hinted" they can charge Casey with homicide without the body. They also don't have a weapon or crime scene, but since they are hinting about it, it probably will happen. Well see.

[mosey2]

Cindy. Arrogant. Controlling. Lying. Concerned about appearances before the welfare of her granddaughter.

Repulsive Personality Disorder.:lol:LOL RPD!!!

[Joan Weiss]

And who is Cindy to "give free rein"? She must think she's in charge of the world.As if she could stop them. :rolleyes:

[kakax]

IMO-the fight on the 15th. Did the neighbors hear it? They obviously did NOT want Caylee's vanishing to be on a day that the neighbors heard a fight.
Sorta like the Nanny deal..Cindy said-WHO took Caylee-plan made-the NANNY did it?! jmo



This makes sense, but also worries me. No one in this family is talking. Unless they can verify this through other ways...it will be very difficult to prove.

[bchand]

And who is Cindy to "give free rein"? She must think she's in charge of the world.


lol she does Frances. She's due for a wake-up call.

[nana6]

Does anyone no if it's posted anywhere what Caylee had on when she went missing i can't find it anywhere, someone posted a few posts back maybe she had the same clothes on that she went to see ggp in that could very well be true.

I do remember seeing Casey's documents of her interview and she tells LE what Caylee was wearing. I thought she said white shorts and a pink top or it was vice versa

[rosejustrose]

Lee tells it in his interview with LE. That Casey said to Lee on the 15th she'd been stealing money from Cindy and from him. He didn't expand on that to LE, it seemed all water under the bridge. imo


Lee also said that once Cindy came back in the room and confronted Casey about Caylee that they started battling/arguing over things in the past. Boy, they really were concerned about Caylee's whereabouts, IMO.

[msjoni]

I was surprised how many people in NJ and NY were up on what's going on. I think that's because they watch the Today show and Good Morning America as their morning news shows since they're local to the geo area. At my parent's anniversary party there was a lot of lively conversation going on about this case. JMO.

I'm a Jersey girl myself and people here do not whats going on in Orlando ...but nowhere near the amount this message board knows...

[mosey2]

Does anyone no if it's posted anywhere what Caylee had on when she went missing i can't find it anywhere, someone posted a few posts back maybe she had the same clothes on that she went to see ggp in that could very well be true.George said she was wearing a jean skirt, pink shirt, white sunglassed and carrying a white backpack with little monkeys on it. Nothing I remember about shoes, though.

[Joan Weiss]

Hi! I just got back from NJ and missed NG tonight? Did I miss anything? Worth a watch at 10? TIA.Yep. Only the first half hour. imo