Monday, Sept. 29th/ Evening/ Day 105

[FrankieBones1]

New thread as the other one is waaaay over a thousand.

Welcome al!

[dvsone]

Thanks.
It was going by the wayside.....
:read:

[brodysho]

Hello all.
Can someone PM me what Casey has been posting on facebook?

P.S, I noticed in the previous thread ragging on tattoos. I'm so glad my employers at Delta airlines never discriminated me for being covered in tattoos. :)

[day2day]

Thanks for the new thread Frankie!! :seeya:

[True2Blues]

Hello all.
Can someone PM me what Casey has been posting on facebook?

P.S, I noticed in the previous thread ragging on tattoos. I'm so glad my employers at Delta airlines never discriminated me for being covered in tattoos. :)

I'm not a tattoo fan, but hey, it's a personal choice. I've seen worse than her. 'On The Smoking Gun' website they had a mugshot of some dip with the "F" word tattooed across his forehead and buzz cut hair.

Now that, I can see interfering with work eligibility, but considering where the picture was taken, maybe he doesn't care.

[dvsone]

Hello all.
Can someone PM me what Casey has been posting on facebook?

P.S, I noticed in the previous thread ragging on tattoos. I'm so glad my employers at Delta airlines never discriminated me for being covered in tattoos. :)


If you happen to get the link would you pass it along to me?

Oh.. I know... which is why I was ready to change subjects and skeedaddle to a new thread.

[5boxersmom]

How can ZG sue when Casey said the name of the nanny was ZF-G?

This is so confusing to me.

jmo

[bluwaters]

Please light a Candle for Caylee


click any unlit candle to begin


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[FrankieBones1]

This is my final opinion and final post about Zenaida as she appeared on tv. She is very attractive even in what she was wearing that day. The media caught up with her and caught her off guard. I'm sure if she had to do it all over again, she would have dressed differently for the cameras.

[Broderick]

Just bringing this over because I wanted folks to see that I acknowledge that I made a slight mistake. I got the month mixed up. The searches were the 16th of July and the history file was created on June 12th.


Quote:
Originally Posted by SavannahStar View Post
Huh? I believe the 6/16 searches were done by Cindy and Lee, after having heard Casey's "story." Trying to find ZG.


I made a mistake it was 7-16. The history file was created 6-12.

Anyway, the details on ZG came out as the new script was developed that more resembled the new ZG. Kids etc.

[martha]

It is so hard to keep up on this board but guess nothing new today. where is caylee. I guess no one is looking. :rose:

[brodysho]

If you happen to get the link would you pass it along to me?

Oh.. I know... which is why I was ready to change subjects and skeedaddle to a new thread.

I sure will pass it a long if someone PMs it to me. I don't have a FB account, so hopefully they will paste to me all she has been saying.

Purdy please, someone?

[msgatorslayer]

Casey's Face Book comments can be found here...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72213

[dvsone]

I think everyone is awaiting NG's new prog tonight.. the weekends usually produce nothing new.

[~jomomma~]

can someone post the link to casey's cell phone records?

i know i saw it today while at work but for the life of me, can't remember what page it was on. thanks!

[dvsone]

I sure will pass it a long if someone PMs it to me. I don't have a FB account, so hopefully they will paste to me all she has been saying.

Purdy please, someone?

here we go.

Casey's Face Book comments can be found here...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72213


thank you ms gatorslayer

[WillowInFlight]

This is my final opinion and final post about Zenaida as she appeared on tv. She is very attractive even in what she was wearing that day. The media caught up with her and caught her off guard. I'm sure if she had to do it all over again, she would have dressed differently for the cameras.

I thought she was attractive as well.

[brodysho]

I'm not a tattoo fan, but hey, it's a personal choice. I've seen worse than her. 'On The Smoking Gun' website they had a mugshot of some dip with the "F" word tattooed across his forehead and buzz cut hair.

Now that, I can see interfering with work eligibility, but considering where the picture was taken, maybe he doesn't care.

I agree about some of those pics on the smoking gun. Some of those tattoos are repugnant :tongue:

[Roux]

I think everyone is awaiting NG's new prog tonight.. the weekends usually produce nothing new.

I will be very interested in NG's take on the interviews which were released Friday. After NeJame was on her program, she softened toward the Anthonys quite a bit, IMO. I was on the fence and empathetic until I listened to Cindy's interviews.

[brodysho]

here we go.




thank you ms gatorslayer

Thanks!
Before I go :read: I just wanted to add that I have never seen ZG. When I seen her on the news she was blurred out with in darkness. I don't blame her either.

[st777jo]

This is my final opinion and final post about Zenaida as she appeared on tv. She is very attractive even in what she was wearing that day. The media caught up with her and caught her off guard. I'm sure if she had to do it all over again, she would have dressed differently for the cameras.

And I agree. Different strokes for different folks.

[ruth66]

Did I miss something? I didn't go back and read the whole thread but caught the end of some questioning posters and tatoos. I use ignore for those that "get under the skin" with their posts and it seems alot of people us it on me (don't get much chatter). Anyway, I got a tatoo after my brother died on the inside of my ankle (his initials) as a rememberance of him (actually my sisters also go the same exact one in the same exact spot). We did it in that spot because my brother would have been the first person in troubled times to say "get up on your feet and keep going, it is going to be better". My daughter who was about 10 at the time was upset that I got a tatoo (she had the same opinion that others have about tatoos). Now that she is older she thinks it is a great way to remember him. That is the only tatoo I have but I know that some people use them as a way to express themselves....going back to hiding....:)

[GrannyB]

Don't forget, tonight Jesse Grundes father is revealing some sort of truth...

On his myspace he sounded like the families were friends not just Jesse and Casey. Maybe he's going to tell us about those "issues" Jesse said Casey had never resolved.

[kakax]

I sure will pass it a long if someone PMs it to me. I don't have a FB account, so hopefully they will paste to me all she has been saying.

Purdy please, someone?

They are really long - pm your email address to C_E or me - C_E was the one that found. Ill email it to you! And if you want to be quick about the matter...there is a thread on the site we aren't supposed to mention that has it there.

[st777jo]

Did I miss something? I didn't go back and read the whole thread but caught the end of some questioning posters and tatoos. I use ignore for those that "get under the skin" with their posts and it seems alot of people us it on me (don't get much chatter). Anyway, I got a tatoo after my brother died on the inside of my ankle (his initials) as a rememberance of him (actually my sisters also go the same exact one in the same exact spot). We did it in that spot because my brother would have been the first person in troubled times to say "get up on your feet and keep going, it is going to be better". My daughter who was about 10 at the time was upset that I got a tatoo (she had the same opinion that others have about tatoos). Now that she is older she thinks it is a great way to remember him. That is the only tatoo I have but I know that some people use them as a way to express themselves....going back to hiding....:)

No No. No hiding. You are entitled to your opinions as much as the rest of us. I'm sure most of us would like to hear different opinions.

[Broderick]

Just to clear up the Zeneida search issues on the computers.

Either you think the forensics team is lying or doesn't know what they are talking about, but clearly in summary they state that name first pops up on JULY 16th.

snipped:
A keyword search for "Zenaida" revealed Web pages indicating that a user
searched the Internet for that name on July 16, 2008. Those entries were
bookmarked under the "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez" section of this report.

Page 3 in the computer forensics report here:
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf





The internet search history file was created on 6-12, but the actual search took place on 7-16.

[GrannyB]

I just can't imagine. Hubby went out and won't be home till later and God forgive me, I am glad to have NO distractions tonight. I beleive words coming out of Mr Grundes mouth.
jmo, we need some freakin' truth. I have never seen such a pack of liars.

I have to sleep before I leave for work at 10 so I never watch ng. Soon as I get to work and settled I get on here to find out what happened. Be sure you post all the good details.

[kakax]

Did I miss something? I didn't go back and read the whole thread but caught the end of some questioning posters and tatoos. I use ignore for those that "get under the skin" with their posts and it seems alot of people us it on me (don't get much chatter). Anyway, I got a tatoo after my brother died on the inside of my ankle (his initials) as a rememberance of him (actually my sisters also go the same exact one in the same exact spot). We did it in that spot because my brother would have been the first person in troubled times to say "get up on your feet and keep going, it is going to be better". My daughter who was about 10 at the time was upset that I got a tatoo (she had the same opinion that others have about tatoos). Now that she is older she thinks it is a great way to remember him. That is the only tatoo I have but I know that some people use them as a way to express themselves....going back to hiding....:)


Don't go into hiding!

I'm not one to get tatooed or is it tatoo'd - it scares me lol. Probably not a good idea to walk into a bank with her tatoos not covered but many other places accept them. They don't bother me. I wouldn't have many friends if I chose them by whether or not they had tatoos.
JMO!

[aubrey04]

I am bringing this post over from the last thread:

Thanks Idol and Curyus for upthread posts about employee ID'ing ZFG.

Interesting catch Curyus ... they showed him 12 pictures of the same person? Whoa.

Sawgrass's employee looked at computer records and found ZFG had been there in April. When LE questioned ZFG about her being at Sawgrass in April, she did not correct them.

Was she there more than once?

Still doesn't explain Ricardo's testimony about February, 2008 (your welcome Savanah :))

And nothing explains Casey telling people about Zanny since 2006.

Where was Caylee when she wasn't at Cindy's, and wasn't with Casey, and supposedly with Zanny, for almost 2 years.


IMO

You're right, impartial. This is one of the most curious parts about the case -- besides where the heck is Caylee --that I can't even make sense of.

Casey had been talking about Zenaida/"Zanny" to a few people for awhile now. So how was Casey able to come up with Zenaida coupled with the Sawgrass Apartments? Unless she was stalking Zenaida.. maybe that is what she did in free time when she was SUPPOSED to be at work? I am perplexed.

:shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

Think it's possible that ZFG as seen on the new, had her ID stolen in the past and someone else was using it? Maybe an illegal alien.

[AustinsMama]

Casey's Face Book comments can be found here...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72213

Did you guys read the latest post- apparently that's not her???? I go to look now and it's gone- it was saying something to the effect that she is not the real Casey? Did anyone else read this?

[luvinlife]

How can ZG sue when Casey said the name of the nanny was ZF-G?

This is so confusing to me.

jmo



I personally don't think she can, different name, different age, Casey said she didn't have kids, she also said it wasn't her when showed a picture. I think if she was fired as a result of this it is her ex boss she should sue. I don't think she will get far, but others dissagree.

moo

[dvsone]

Facebook posts.... (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=341711)

[GrannyB]

Think it's possible that ZFG as seen on the new, had her ID stolen in the past and someone else was using it? Maybe an illegal alien.


Or maybe for the first time in this case we have a real coinky-dinky.
Casey mention Zanny to Jesse in 2006. And Casey had friends at Sawgrass and just used that place for her lie. There's been so many lies we may just have something that means nothing.

[Broderick]

I am bringing this post over from the last thread:



You're right, impartial. This is one of the most curious parts about the case -- besides where the heck is Caylee --that I can't even make sense of.

Casey had been talking about Zenaida/"Zanny" to a few people for awhile now. So how was Casey able to come up with Zenaida coupled with the Sawgrass Apartments? Unless she was stalking Zenaida.. maybe that is what she did in free time when she was SUPPOSED to be at work? I am perplexed.

:shrug:

Here is one for you folks, the kiomarie angle which was a friend at one time that had the same kids names, went the college that Casey claimed she went to, who lived close to Sawgrass, and drove the same car that Casey claims Zenaida has. Now, in the facebook or myspace section kiomarie and Zenaida are listed as friends.

I saw that a month ago, so I am doing it from memory and might be wrong on some respects. All this did for me was led me to believe that Casey incorporated real life people into her stories in bits and pieces. She could have looked at Kio's page and saw that name ZFG and went with it. That wouldn't show up in a search if that happened say a year or two ago.

There is also a book that has been documented here that has Zanny the nanny in it.

I don't know how she got this person's name, nor how she got the apartment complex that ZG went to. Who knows at this point, but I would venture to say that we will never find out for sure.

[impartial]

I am bringing this post over from the last thread:



You're right, impartial. This is one of the most curious parts about the case -- besides where the heck is Caylee --that I can't even make sense of.

Casey had been talking about Zenaida/"Zanny" to a few people for awhile now. So how was Casey able to come up with Zenaida coupled with the Sawgrass Apartments? Unless she was stalking Zenaida.. maybe that is what she did in free time when she was SUPPOSED to be at work? I am perplexed.

:shrug:


Here's something to add to the confusion ... someone did an internet search from the desktop computer on the name Zenadia on October 22, 2007.


hammer

[day2day]

Too funny! :lol: So now Casey is a case law expert? Come on Jose, do you have your legal surrogates actually combing past court cases on NG?

Don't you think there are more pressing issues at hand for your most infamous client?

lol..no no she can copy and paste wiki...:lol:

[Regina.Lampert]

This is my final opinion and final post about Zenaida as she appeared on tv. She is very attractive even in what she was wearing that day. The media caught up with her and caught her off guard. I'm sure if she had to do it all over again, she would have dressed differently for the cameras.

I agree and I would never judge a person by outside appearances, but by what's inside. For example, I wouldn't pick our current little child killer over this woman just because she has tatoos.

[day2day]

Here's something to add to the confusion ... someone did an internet search from the desktop computer on the name Zenadia on October 22, 2007.


hammer

I really think we need one of those big arse calendars that LE had...we could fill it up in no time...jmo

[~jomomma~]

*sigh*

ok, maybe i didn't see them :shrug:

[day2day]

She supposedly had her purse/wallet stolen and of course, didn't have a clue what happened to it. ;)

And anyone who has ever known Casey -knows she wouldn't steal! Just ask Amy, Cindy, George or Grandma...:seeya:

[marshmallow]

Think it's possible that ZFG as seen on the new, had her ID stolen in the past and someone else was using it? Maybe an illegal alien.

do you think that's who now has Caylee?

[Broderick]

Here's something to add to the confusion ... someone did an internet search from the desktop computer on the name Zenadia on October 22, 2007.


hammer

That is not true. The history file shows a creation date of 2007, but the actual search file was JULY 16th

Name: history.dat
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 10/22/07 01:13:21PM
Last Accessed: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\mfhaxjkl.default\his tory.dat


Page 9 here:
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf

[marshmallow]

She supposedly had her purse/wallet stolen and of course, didn't have a clue what happened to it. ;)

do you thnk she's involved in Caylee's disappearance and lying now?

[kakax]

Here's something to add to the confusion ... someone did an internet search from the desktop computer on the name Zenadia on October 22, 2007.


hammer

Not sure that has been proven...check out previous thread.

[msjoni]

I agree and I would never judge a person by outside appearances, but by what's inside. For example, I wouldn't pick our current little child killer over this woman just because she has tatoos.

You're right, people shouldn't judge a book by its cover...but they do....:shrug:

[~jomomma~]

nevermind!!! i found them! :tongue:

am i on iggy??? :mad:

[Squeekie]

There are two entries for Casey Anthony on Facebook

1) "Casey Anthony" - icon picture is Casey wearing the flag - 2 friends.

2) "Casey Marie Anthony" - icon picture is Casey & Caylee - 666 friends.

I'd say the latter is definitely hers, knowing what an attention monger she is. That number of friends atm is pretty ironic as well. Fitting. JMO

[trich]

I am bringing this post over from the last thread:



You're right, impartial. This is one of the most curious parts about the case -- besides where the heck is Caylee --that I can't even make sense of.

Casey had been talking about Zenaida/"Zanny" to a few people for awhile now. So how was Casey able to come up with Zenaida coupled with the Sawgrass Apartments? Unless she was stalking Zenaida.. maybe that is what she did in free time when she was SUPPOSED to be at work? I am perplexed.

:shrug:



Zanny the Nanny is from a child's book.
Someone on this board found it why back when this case first broke.
when we first heard of Zanny.
Then not too long ago Padilla mentioned it also.
she was using Zanny the Nanny for what I think was when she had left Caylee alone in the car when Casey wanted to be free to do her thing.
I think she then tried to find a person that had a name that she could say she called Zanny and she was the nanny.
If I remember correctly there was a person at her hs that was named Zenaida...I think I remember that.
I still believe the people at the sawgrass apartments Casey knew
had something to do with giving Casey the information about a person with that name looking at the apartment.....or else someone
helped Casey by pretending to be this person and pretending to want to rent a place there.
(I really think that is a good possibility.)

[shelbar53]

can someone post the link to casey's cell phone records?

i know i saw it today while at work but for the life of me, can't remember what page it was on. thanks!

Go to this morning thread 9/28, and look for post 74. the links to the cell phone records are there.

[day2day]

There are two entries for Casey Anthony on Facebook

1) "Casey Anthony" - icon picture is Casey wearing the flag - 2 friends.

2) "Casey Marie Anthony" - icon picture is Casey & Caylee - 666 friends.

I'd say the latter is definitely hers, knowing what an attention monger she is. That number of friends atm is pretty ironic as well. Fitting. JMO

666 go figure...:chicken:

[impartial]

That is not true. The history file shows a creation date of 2007, but the actual search file was JULY 16th

Name: history.dat
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 10/22/07 01:13:21PM
Last Accessed: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\mfhaxjkl.default\his tory.dat


Page 9 here:
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf



Created/Accessed, etc ... all Greek to me. :seeya:


IMO

[day2day]

Not in my book you're not. I can't form any kind of intelligent thought anymore so I don't blab like I used to.:tongue:

sits next to you...i have the second worst headache i have ever had in my lifetime! I wish I had a hammer to make me feel better!!

[SavannahStar]

Created/Accessed, etc ... all Greek to me. :seeya:


IMO


See:

It is unclear which index.dat files are being reported - cookie, main, daily, weekly, cache? IA, the file created date and time refers to when the file containing the index.dat file was created. It is wierd the last accessed date and time is the same as the file created date and time.
I agree the searches for Zenaida occurred on 7/16 instead of 6/12 . Apologies for the confusion.
jmo

Also, impartial, NO search in Oct. 07.

[marshmallow]

nevermind!!! i found them! :tongue:

am i on iggy??? :mad:



not mine either. I don't use the ignore feature.

[aubrey04]

Here is one for you folks, the kiomarie angle which was a friend at one time that had the same kids names, went the college that Casey claimed she went to, who lived close to Sawgrass, and drove the same car that Casey claims Zenaida has. Now, in the facebook or myspace section kiomarie and Zenaida are listed as friends.

I saw that a month ago, so I am doing it from memory and might be wrong on some respects. All this did for me was led me to believe that Casey incorporated real life people into her stories in bits and pieces. She could have looked at Kio's page and saw that name ZFG and went with it. That wouldn't show up in a search if that happened say a year or two ago.

There is also a book that has been documented here that has Zanny the nanny in it.

I don't know how she got this person's name, nor how she got the apartment complex that ZG went to. Who knows at this point, but I would venture to say that we will never find out for sure.

Wow. Yeah, you're right.. We will probably never find out how/why she picked that person/name. It does seem like her lies are embellished by real events/people a lot of the time.. so you could be right. She could have been scanning a friends facebook (or myspace) and saw something that made her pick that name.

It's just bizarre that she had that name picked out for like 2 years.. My head is going to explode if I try and figure that part of the case out..

[Broderick]

Created/Accessed, etc ... all Greek to me. :seeya:


IMO

What LE did was a query on the history file to see when that file was accessed and written to for a specific entry. It had positive results all relating to the date of July 16th. It doesn't matter when the history files are created and started because they access and write records to itself when searches are processed.

[martha]

[QUOTE=Barefooted;12206035]

'tis ok! :) I'll just have to try to catch up. Watched the Cindy Interrogation, and read the Casey and BF transcript...this case just gets darker and darker by the day! There are some serious storm clouds brewing up for the Anthony's. IMO there are some real skeletons in their closets that they are really trying to hide, and IMO, Casey may only be the scratch in the surface! :eek: It's going to get really evil before it gets better....

Caylee, we have not forgotten you, sweetheart! :rose:

LB ITA with you I think the a's family has a lot of stuff they do not want people to know so they or all having to try and cover right now. CAYLEE is the only one I am worried about.jmho

[crymeariver2006]

I have a feeling that police know exactly where the information on a specific Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez was obtained.

And I have a feeling that we'll find out about it pretty soon.

[crymeariver2006]

Zenaida is not pristine clean in this.

Is that your opinion or do you have some linkable facts to back it up?

[marshmallow]

Zenaida is not pristine clean in this.

why do you say that?

do you think that's who now has Caylee?

[marshmallow]

The police cleared her. I think the poster is just being racially motivated, as was Casey in naming a minority in the first place.


I don't think this has anything to do with race. Not in Caseyland and not on the boards here.

[crymeariver2006]

:eek::eek: do tell.

Oh, nothing specific.

I just have a feeling that it'll come out and we'll all sit back and say "Ahah! I knew it!" or we'll be all :eek: 'cause it's nothing that we've ever considered.

Remember they have talked to lots of people in this case, some we weren't even aware existed - like Clint's girlfriend, Maria.

So, FWIW I think (IMO) LE has nailed down the Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez aspect.

JMO

[CinTN]

Don't forget, tonight Jesse Grundes father is revealing some sort of truth...

:eek: WHAT ,, WHERE !!!!???

[aubrey04]

Zenaida is not pristine clean in this.

I am probably going to regret this... but what do you mean by that, ~DaddysGirl~?

[shelbar53]

:eek: WHAT ,, WHERE !!!!???

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148
JG fathers blog

[mosey2]

There are two entries for Casey Anthony on Facebook

1) "Casey Anthony" - icon picture is Casey wearing the flag - 2 friends.

2) "Casey Marie Anthony" - icon picture is Casey & Caylee - 666 friends.

I'd say the latter is definitely hers, knowing what an attention monger she is. That number of friends atm is pretty ironic as well. Fitting. JMO
Didnt Casey just stop adding friends to her Facebook. She said it was due to (something to the effect) 'People were to concentrated on their hatred of her and not looking for Caylee'
See, I think it was due to the fact that she really, really liked that number.
I can see Casey saying "and I dont know why for sure....it's just calls to meeee........"

[mayamia]

I think that Cindy was the one who "wrote the script" for Casey after the fact. She sure knew a lot of really unneccesary "facts" during her police interview.


Agreed. I am probably going to get a lot of feedback on this post, but here goes... I don't think Cindy, George, and Casey going to a lawyer to "obtain parallel custody in the event of" is legal without knowledge and consent of the actual father, is it?

Am I the only one who views Cindy Anthony's "prayer vigil" for Caylee, as a hypocritical abomination of fund raising?

My Grandmother always cautioned us not to tempt God. It would seem under the circumstances, both Cindy and Casey believe they are capable of no wrong.

[bchand]

:eek: WHAT ,, WHERE !!!!???


People are talking about Jesse's father's myspace page. The last paragraph says:

Stay tuned. On Monday night the spotlight of Truth will shine and
you can decide for yourself what you want to believe or not. Then it's
up to you what you want to do with that Truth. All I can do is expose
the unfruitful works of darkness and bring them out into the Light.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148

We really have no idea where "the spotlight of truth" will shine.

[AustinsMama]

Does anyone have Nancy Grace's email? TIA!

[?noanswer]

How can ZG sue when Casey said the name of the nanny was ZF-G?

This is so confusing to me.

jmo


The official papers detailing the law suit gives her name as Zenaida Fernadez-Gonzales. JMO

[CinTN]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148
JG fathers blog

This guy is a fruit cake.. JMO

[jbellaj]

:seeya: Is it safe to come in or should I just continue to :read:

:rose: For Caylee

[crymeariver2006]

Agreed. I am probably going to get a lot of feedback on this post, but here goes... I don't think Cindy, George, and Casey going to a lawyer to "obtain parallel custody in the event of" is legal without knowledge and consent of the actual father, is it?

Am I the only one who views Cindy Anthony's "prayer vigil" for Caylee, as a hypocritical abomination of fund raising?

My Grandmother always cautioned us not to tempt God. It would seem under the circumstances, both Cindy and Casey believe they are capable of no wrong.


I believe the father would still have to sign over his parental rights before the Anthonys could get Caylee in the event of Casey's death. If there were no father known, every good faith effort must have been made to try and locate him. The lawyer should/would have told them this. Maybe this is why the story of the "father dying in the car accident" came about. Casey had to have been questioned over who this father is/was.

And ITA about tempting God. :chicken:

[Ionmhainn]

Agreed. I am probably going to get a lot of feedback on this post, but here goes... I don't think Cindy, George, and Casey going to a lawyer to "obtain parallel custody in the event of" is legal without knowledge and consent of the actual father, is it?

Am I the only one who views Cindy Anthony's "prayer vigil" for Caylee, as a hypocritical abomination of fund raising?

My Grandmother always cautioned us not to tempt God. It would seem under the circumstances, both Cindy and Casey believe they are capable of no wrong.


I don't know about the custody part, but I'll give you my opinion on the vigil. The prayers are for Caylee to be found, so they're fine with me, and not wasted. Everybody wants that, right? imo

[shelbar53]

Agreed. I am probably going to get a lot of feedback on this post, but here goes... I don't think Cindy, George, and Casey going to a lawyer to "obtain parallel custody in the event of" is legal without knowledge and consent of the actual father, is it?

Am I the only one who views Cindy Anthony's "prayer vigil" for Caylee, as a hypocritical abomination of fund raising?

My Grandmother always cautioned us not to tempt God. It would seem under the circumstances, both Cindy and Casey believe they are capable of no wrong.
I agree, just a big fund raiser. they are back in parking lots looking for handouts also.

[day2day]

:rose: headache, so sorry I get migraines, pray you don't spew.
Too bad you aren't friends w/ Casey, she'd hook you up with some Xanax.

good grief.:punch:shame on me.

lol...no xanax for me..i can't stand to take meds!! I am patiently waiting for 8 pm -to hear the "truth"

[Broderick]

This guy is a fruit cake.. JMO

I can't take someone too seriously when they call themselves the Sword of the King or whatnot at 52 years of age. Just rubs me wrong. We will see what he "reveals" in his quest to provide the truth. Why didn't he just come out and say it on his blog, why save it for Nancy? I guess fame does weird things to people.

[shelbar53]

This guy is a fruit cake.. JMO

:lol: I guess you clicked on "the sword of the king"

[crymeariver2006]

The official papers detailing the law suit gives her name as Zenaida Fernadez-Gonzales. JMO

Is that for real?

:eek:

I haven't seen the lawsuit, so just askin'....

[CinTN]

A pic of Caylee I had not seen before today.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/lillygracesmom/Webslueths/l_776a154d9f4901ed7399e969ace4fcdb.jpg


She looks like Cindy.

Poor Caylee:rose:

Awww that is so sweet...

seeing things like this makes me even more pizzed off about this whole situation ..:flamemad:

[jbellaj]

well just one factual answer in this case would go a long way, imo, it might just be one puzzle peice that makes it all fall insanely into place. That would get rid of alot of our headaches, sleeplessness, and moodiness on here. jmo. Nobody who is into this case is in good shape, its taken a toll.

I'm with you on that:beer:

[aubrey04]

A pic of Caylee I had not seen before today.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/lillygracesmom/Webslueths/l_776a154d9f4901ed7399e969ace4fcdb.jpg


She looks like Cindy.

Poor Caylee:rose:

She does look just like Cindy.. In that picture and other pictures too. I see more of Cindy in Caylee than Casey (or George). I wonder if that was her favorite little playhouse that people talked about in police interviews?

So sad.... :( she was just so dang cute.

[jbellaj]

A pic of Caylee I had not seen before today.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/lillygracesmom/Webslueths/l_776a154d9f4901ed7399e969ace4fcdb.jpg


She looks like Cindy.

Poor Caylee:rose:


I've never seen that picture either but in most of the pictures I have seen she sure does favor Cindy. JMO

[jbellaj]

Does anyone have Nancy Grace's email? TIA!


Also does anyone have Greta's one too. TIA

[Amy]

I personally don't think she can, different name, different age, Casey said she didn't have kids, she also said it wasn't her when showed a picture. I think if she was fired as a result of this it is her ex boss she should sue. I don't think she will get far, but others dissagree.

moo

What was her employment record BEFORE the name Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez became a house hold name? Was she employed then? Had she had long-term employment? Did she get fired after that name came out of Casey's story? Did she have problems getting hired before that time? What I'd really like to know (and sorry if I have missed this) has she ever been employed as a Nanny?

Even if she wasn't standing beside someone else, I do not think I would hire her to be a nanny to my kids. She LOOKS like someone who would be rough, talk rough. I want my nanny to look like oh, say, Mary Poppins. Was just discussing this today in RL---I want my banker to look like a banker, my preacher to look like a preacher, my doctor to look like a doctor...well, you get the idea.

[bchand]

Well I am going to multitask then and keep my peepers on both places, NG and his myspace, and thanks for the link because i sure didn't have it saved.

You're very welcome Barefooted.

I just was thinking this afternoon that "everyone" involved in this case constantly offer teasers. Lenny says we'll all be shocked when we hear this, blah blah, blah. Cindy says Casey will get the mother of the year award once the truth comes out, etc. etc.

Why would Jesse's dad have to wait until Monday night to disclose information? He needs the audience? I just don't get it.

[rosejustrose]

I believe the father would still have to sign over his parental rights before the Anthonys could get Caylee in the event of Casey's death. If there were no father known, every good faith effort must have been made to try and locate him. The lawyer should/would have told them this. Maybe this is why the story of the "father dying in the car accident" came about. Casey had to have been questioned over who this father is/was.

And ITA about tempting God. :chicken:

Which supposed father died in a car accident Jesus "Jesse" Ortiz or Eric last name unknown? I know Ortiz really did die but in Cindy's interview she insisted that she had never heard that name before. IIRC, Eric was a school friend of Casey's so I wonder whose obituary Cindy recalls seeing but not remembering the name. IMO, there's more to the whole Caylee's father story. IMO, he's alive and well, Casey just can't recall which guy he is. I wonder if Cindy ever turned over her JC Penney statement and the custody papers to LE. IIRC, she said she would even though she checked the statement herself:rolleyes:

MOO

[aubrey04]

People are talking about Jesse's father's myspace page. The last paragraph says:

Stay tuned. On Monday night the spotlight of Truth will shine and
you can decide for yourself what you want to believe or not. Then it's
up to you what you want to do with that Truth. All I can do is expose
the unfruitful works of darkness and bring them out into the Light.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148

We really have no idea where "the spotlight of truth" will shine.

What is with Mr. Grund's dramatics? If he has some evidence or something to say.. why doesn't he just reveal it? He is acting like Casey with all the drama surrounding it all.

[crymeariver2006]

This guy is a fruit cake.. JMO

Oh, I don't know....if you had seen some woman ranting to the police that your son was really Zanny and that he had threatened them all and he would go into a rage and implied that he was responsible for her grandaughter's disappearance.....what would you do?

Sit back and take it?

:shrug:

[jbellaj]

I believe the father would still have to sign over his parental rights before the Anthonys could get Caylee in the event of Casey's death. If there were no father known, every good faith effort must have been made to try and locate him. The lawyer should/would have told them this. Maybe this is why the story of the "father dying in the car accident" came about. Casey had to have been questioned over who this father is/was.

And ITA about tempting God. :chicken:

JMO but I really don't think that Casey really knew who Caylee's father was. Look at how many guys she was sleeping with just in the last 6 months before Caylee went missing. She couldn't have just started that kind of behavior.

[bchand]

Also does anyone have Greta's one too. TIA

ontherecord@foxnews.com

[rosejustrose]

Awww that is so sweet...

seeing things like this makes me even more pizzed off about this whole situation ..:flamemad:

ITA. It appears that picture was taken in her playhouse. Didn't Jesse say that was her favorite place in the world to play?

[bchand]

What is with Mr. Grund's dramatics? If he has some evidence or something to say.. why doesn't he just reveal it? He is acting like Casey with all the drama surrounding it all.

and Cindy and George and Lee.

Exactly.

[Joan Weiss]

Hello all.
Can someone PM me what Casey has been posting on facebook?

P.S, I noticed in the previous thread ragging on tattoos. I'm so glad my employers at Delta airlines never discriminated me for being covered in tattoos. :)My son is a tattoo artist. He draws the designs himself, to order. He makes very good money.

[jessjam]

I really think we need one of those big arse calendars that LE had...we could fill it up in no time...jmo

That was too funny!:lol: But True.

[jbellaj]

lol...no xanax for me..i can't stand to take meds!! I am patiently waiting for 8 pm -to hear the "truth"

I must admit that I am very curious to see what NG has on tonight. I really don't care for her. I like Greta much better but she has been covering politics for some time now.:flamemad: which by the way my DH thinks I should be doing too.......

Anyway, are we for sure that Mr. Grund Sr. is going to be on NG tonight?

[st777jo]

What was her employment record BEFORE the name Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez became a house hold name? Was she employed then? Had she had long-term employment? Did she get fired after that name came out of Casey's story? Did she have problems getting hired before that time? What I'd really like to know (and sorry if I have missed this) has she ever been employed as a Nanny?

Even if she wasn't standing beside someone else, I do not think I would hire her to be a nanny to my kids. She LOOKS like someone who would be rough, talk rough. I want my nanny to look like oh, say, Mary Poppins. Was just discussing this today in RL---I want my banker to look like a banker, my preacher to look like a preacher, my doctor to look like a doctor...well, you get the idea.

Not trying to be mean or nothing, but looking at life that way just might mean you could be missing out on meeting a lot of decent and honest people, if you know what I mean. jmo, jo

[rosejustrose]

Aye Carumba.... Maybe he's going to announce that he's cast the demons out of somebody?

I'd like to thing he's legitimate but that MySpace of his, well........nm. JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

What is with Mr. Grund's dramatics? If he has some evidence or something to say.. why doesn't he just reveal it? He is acting like Casey with all the drama surrounding it all.He does seem a bit dramatic, doesn't he? Thanks for bringing that up. When I first saw his web site, I was like "Whaaaaa...?" imo

[crymeariver2006]

Very true.

Any grown supposed "man" who patterns himself after Captain America can't be quite right in the head - but that's just for starters.


Oh, have you gotten the link to the fact that "Zenaida is not pristine" in all of this?

Thanks!

[aubrey04]

What was her employment record BEFORE the name Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez became a house hold name? Was she employed then? Had she had long-term employment? Did she get fired after that name came out of Casey's story? Did she have problems getting hired before that time? What I'd really like to know (and sorry if I have missed this) has she ever been employed as a Nanny?

Even if she wasn't standing beside someone else, I do not think I would hire her to be a nanny to my kids. She LOOKS like someone who would be rough, talk rough. I want my nanny to look like oh, say, Mary Poppins. Was just discussing this today in RL---I want my banker to look like a banker, my preacher to look like a preacher, my doctor to look like a doctor...well, you get the idea.

Here is an article with more information about the Zenaida who is suing Casey. She claims to have been fired from her job as a manager to a cleaning crew -- due to her boss not wanting the negative publicity to ruin his business. I have no opinions about the lawsuit whatsoever - I am just providing the link..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26749097/

[day2day]

Oh, I don't know....if you had seen some woman ranting to the police that your son was really Zanny and that he had threatened them all and he would go into a rage and implied that he was responsible for her grandaughter's disappearance.....what would you do?

Sit back and take it?

:shrug:


I have to admit-the bible quoting scares me. BUT -that is HIS "sword" and its better than Cindy's hammer
I also believe that Mr. Grund knows alottttt about the Anthony's..and Caylee! I beleve he loved this littleone like his own...
And compared to the Anthony's he seems rather-normal.

jmo

[msjoni]

A pic of Caylee I had not seen before today.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p254/lillygracesmom/Webslueths/l_776a154d9f4901ed7399e969ace4fcdb.jpg


She looks like Cindy.

Poor Caylee:rose:

She sure does, which I'm sure irritated Caylee.

[Joan Weiss]

Not trying to be mean or nothing, but looking at life that way just might mean you could be missing out on meeting a lot of decent and honest people, if you know what I mean. jmo, joExactly. Thank you. :cool:

[rosejustrose]

Someone on Caseys fb has posted a link for a group to HELP Casey.


"CASEY IS INNOCENT ... WHO SUPPORTS HER.. I DO."
Global group



http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43914717272


12 supporters so far.


Let's see, Zanny, Samantha, Juliette, Racquel, blah, blah, blah, they're all her invisible friends, IMO.

[msjoni]

She sure does, which I'm sure irritated Caylee.

I meant Casey.....

[Pruddennce]

Which supposed father died in a car accident Jesus "Jesse" Ortiz or Eric last name unknown? I know Ortiz really did die but in Cindy's interview she insisted that she had never heard that name before. IIRC, Eric was a school friend of Casey's so I wonder whose obituary Cindy recalls seeing but not remembering the name. IMO, there's more to the whole Caylee's father story. IMO, he's alive and well, Casey just can't recall which guy he is. I wonder if Cindy ever turned over her JC Penney statement and the custody papers to LE. IIRC, she said she would even though she checked the statement herself:rolleyes:

MOO

Cindy stated in the interview she was RELIEVED that he was dead...ya know, no problem with him coming back into caylee's life...

that was such a terrible thing to say.

as far as the information she was to turn over (oh Lee was supposed to give this or that to them)...well, there you go, cindy cloaking the criminal behaviour of Casey...

or was it? Im on the fence as far as penny's until information is forthcoming about her actually USING the card, more importantly, its what Cindy said on the 911 call...BANK STATEMENT. LE asked her several times if it was just ONE CARD...she said yes.

George says differently.

I cant even go back and listen to her again, as she uttered such unspeakable words about a deceased guy, the supposed father of her grandaughter.

best regards,
Pru

[day2day]

I must admit that I am very curious to see what NG has on tonight. I really don't care for her. I like Greta much better but she has been covering politics for some time now.:flamemad: which by the way my DH thinks I should be doing too.......

Anyway, are we for sure that Mr. Grund Sr. is going to be on NG tonight?

According to a friend he emailed-that is what he said. I would much rather listen to him than lenny!! I love Gretta too-she really did a great job when Ray Gricar vanished. I think we all should be paying attention to politics...i think we are all in trouble :(...


jmo

[jbellaj]

do you just 'refresh' myspaces like we do on the boards, and as he adds something new to his myspace it will pop up? I tell you, I am really Myspace and Facebook stupid. tia

I'm the same way..I have know clue. My SIL made me register with myspace so I could keep up with what's going on with her life but I can't manuver around it so I told her to just pick up the darn phone and call. :D

[crymeariver2006]

Here is an article with more information about the Zenaida who is suing Casey. She claims to have been fired from her job as a manager to a cleaning crew -- due to her boss not wanting the negative publicity to ruin his business. I have no opinions about the lawsuit whatsoever - I am just providing the link..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26749097/

Not only her, but didn't the detective tell George that "all these kids" were coming forward and risking their jobs because their employers told them it better not "come to their workplace"?

[CinTN]

Oh, I don't know....if you had seen some woman ranting to the police that your son was really Zanny and that he had threatened them all and he would go into a rage and implied that he was responsible for her grandaughter's disappearance.....what would you do?

Sit back and take it?

:shrug:

Oh I totally understand them getting mad over that,, but he had this "Sword of Zoro" nonscense, or what ever he calls it, going on long before this case started..

Just like I said IMO he's a fruit cake..

[shelbar53]

Aye Carumba.... Maybe he's going to announce that he's cast the demons out of somebody?
I cant get the ukelele song over the rainbow out of my head now.

[day2day]

What is with Mr. Grund's dramatics? If he has some evidence or something to say.. why doesn't he just reveal it? He is acting like Casey with all the drama surrounding it all.

And the Anthony's have exclusive rights to those? jmo

[jbellaj]

I saw NG has a "live blog" ad on her show (in commercial breaks I see it), has anyone gone there and is it worth the time?

Someone had the link posted a while back but I haven't seen it lately. I can't seem to locate Greta's and I want to e-mail her to find out how much longer will it be before she goes back to covering this case and other missing people's cases. I have a few other questions as well but i'm not going to post those.:D

[mosey2]

I have to admit-the bible quoting scares me. BUT -that is HIS "sword" and its better than Cindy's hammer
I also believe that Mr. Grund knows alottttt about the Anthony's..and Caylee! I beleve he loved this littleone like his own...
And compared to the Anthony's he seems rather-normal.

jmoThe man is passionate about his God. Sword of Kings just means he is doing God's work on earth.

That can't be a bad thing

[day2day]

Aye Carumba.... Maybe he's going to announce that he's cast the demons out of somebody?

Obviously it didn't work for Casey...jmo hammer

[Joan Weiss]

People are talking about Jesse's father's myspace page. The last paragraph says:

Stay tuned. On Monday night the spotlight of Truth will shine and
you can decide for yourself what you want to believe or not. Then it's
up to you what you want to do with that Truth. All I can do is expose
the unfruitful works of darkness and bring them out into the Light.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148

We really have no idea where "the spotlight of truth" will shine.Neither does he. imo

[jbellaj]

ontherecord@foxnews.com


Thank you so very much...

[Kathlb]

I think that Cindy was the one who "wrote the script" for Casey after the fact. She sure knew a lot of really unneccesary "facts" during her police interview.

I agree. I can't believe knowing the way Cindy and Casey fought all the time (according to Lee) that Casey would have given Cindy all of those minute details about her daily life during that time or any time. Cindy knew every little detail about roads traveled, hospitals stayed at, doctor's prognosis, sisters, daughters, insurance papers, etc. and it went on and on. Sorry, I'm not buying it. MOO

[aubrey04]

Someone on Caseys fb has posted a link for a group to HELP Casey.


"CASEY IS INNOCENT ... WHO SUPPORTS HER.. I DO."
Global group



http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43914717272


12 supporters so far.

Did Casey make that fan site herself or what? I can't imagine she'd have even 1 friend, much less 12 friends.

Take a look at the captions under the pictures posted. My grammar isn't the best, nor is my spelling but geesh.

Under a picture of Cindy with Caylee,

AWWW ! UNCONDICIONAL LOVE

Did the author of the fan site sound that word out.. and spell it that way?

[bchand]

Someone on Caseys fb has posted a link for a group to HELP Casey.


"CASEY IS INNOCENT ... WHO SUPPORTS HER.. I DO."
Global group



http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43914717272


12 supporters so far.


Good, let them send her their credit cards.

[day2day]

The man is passionate about his God. Sword of Kings just means he is doing God's work on earth.

That can't be a bad thing

Exactly...I also remember Cindy "sniffling" cause Casey couldn't have HER bible. Obviously since she is out of jail and on facebook-she doesn't have much time for the Bible. :read::mad:

[moonbeam]

Oh, nothing specific.

I just have a feeling that it'll come out and we'll all sit back and say "Ahah! I knew it!" or we'll be all :eek: 'cause it's nothing that we've ever considered.

Remember they have talked to lots of people in this case, some we weren't even aware existed - like Clint's girlfriend, Maria.

So, FWIW I think (IMO) LE has nailed down the Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez aspect.

JMO
I'll tell you what I thought from the beginning re the whole mystery of how Casey came up with the name ZFG. I think she may have been a regular visitor to "new mommy" message boards, you know where new mothers share their experiences and get advice, etc. I know several very young mothers, including my own niece, who like chatting on these boards. There was that one board called "Moms of Brevard County" or something like that and one of the people that wrote articles on child care for that board was a lady named....... Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. They even had her pic posted on the board. If you do a search for Brevard County Moms, you'll probably find it. Anywho, I have always thought that was how Casey could have come up with the name ZFG.

[desmom]

What was her employment record BEFORE the name Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez became a house hold name? Was she employed then? Had she had long-term employment? Did she get fired after that name came out of Casey's story? Did she have problems getting hired before that time? What I'd really like to know (and sorry if I have missed this) has she ever been employed as a Nanny?

Even if she wasn't standing beside someone else, I do not think I would hire her to be a nanny to my kids. She LOOKS like someone who would be rough, talk rough. I want my nanny to look like oh, say, Mary Poppins. Was just discussing this today in RL---I want my banker to look like a banker, my preacher to look like a preacher, my doctor to look like a doctor...well, you get the idea.

I believe she worked for a cleaning service. After her name hit the wires, the media was harassing her for interviews while she was at work.

IMO, you can't judge an individual by their physical appearance.

jmo

[st777jo]

In the text to her lover, she's refers to Caylee as "the kid." and " THE SNOT HEAD" !!!!:eek::cuss::flamemad:

Speechless......

LB

Speaking of a Snot Head, has anyone seen the odious creature today???

[crymeariver2006]

Oh I totally understand them getting mad over that,, but he had this "Sword of Zoro" nonscense, or what ever he calls it, going on long before this case started..

Just like I said IMO he's a fruit cake..

That's just his belief system, his faith.

Even Jesse said his family was religious and as customary for Casey, she claimed to be religious too when she was dating Jesse.

He's apparently always been religious (or Pentecostal), as you say, way before this case ever happened.

JMO, but I don't think it makes him a fruitcake.

:)

[Kathlb]

Someone had the link posted a while back but I haven't seen it lately. I can't seem to locate Greta's and I want to e-mail her to find out how much longer will it be before she goes back to covering this case and other missing people's cases. I have a few other questions as well but i'm not going to post those.:D

jbella...here is the link to Greta's blog.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[jbellaj]

My son is a tattoo artist. He draws the designs himself, to order. He makes very good money.


I heard that they do, glad to hear your son is successful, times are tough right now for everyone. JMO I don't mind one or two tats but when they cover themselves with them it's gross. They will be sorry someday for doing that to their bodies.

Sorry if this was way O/T

[bchand]

It was started on sept 17, open to all to join.

Noone seemed to beat the down down thats for sure. ;)

About the same enthusiam that greeted the trust fund apparently. (Brought over from the earlier thread.)


http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/help

Trust Fund Information


The Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony Trust fund was set up to allow the concerned public a vehicle to contribute to finding missing 3 year old, Caylee. Sadly, several people have had their own agenda and ulterior motives by making horrible suggestions that there have been misrepresentations or misappropriations of funds with this account, which has caused others to question the account. Therefore, George and Cindy Anthony are voluntarily providing all of the Trust information and posting the documents online for the public to inspect. Hopefully this will resolve any questions and will put to ease the minds of those with concerns and refocus back on finding little Caylee.


They're claiming Lee's personal paypal acct has $187.84 in it.
It's quite illegible.

They don't show much in the new acct - 9/26 $1,763.53.

[msjoni]

The man is passionate about his God. Sword of Kings just means he is doing God's work on earth.

That can't be a bad thing

Saint Michael is always shown with a sword...I think he's just religious.:shrug:

[jbellaj]

Someone on Caseys fb has posted a link for a group to HELP Casey.


"CASEY IS INNOCENT ... WHO SUPPORTS HER.. I DO."
Global group



http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43914717272


12 supporters so far.


Oh please....I bet they just want to try and get close to her to get dirt on her...JMO of course....some people will do anything for attention.

[day2day]

About the same enthusiam that greeted the trust fund apparently. (Brought over from the earlier thread.)


http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/help

Trust Fund Information


The Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony Trust fund was set up to allow the concerned public a vehicle to contribute to finding missing 3 year old, Caylee. Sadly, several people have had their own agenda and ulterior motives by making horrible suggestions that there have been misrepresentations or misappropriations of funds with this account, which has caused others to question the account. Therefore, George and Cindy Anthony are voluntarily providing all of the Trust information and posting the documents online for the public to inspect. Hopefully this will resolve any questions and will put to ease the minds of those with concerns and refocus back on finding little Caylee.


They're claiming Lee's personal paypal acct has $187.84 in it.
It's quite illegible.

They don't show much in the new acct - 9/26 $1,763.53.

And not many cash donations...and no gift cards...hammer
And if you read closely -this fund can be helped pay for Caylee's funeral expenses. HMMMM

[Broderick]

Saint Michael is always shown with a sword...I think he's just religious.:shrug:

His original picture has been changed to a different headshot, his original showed him and his glock, his gun. It was changed once he began the trek of 15 minutes of fame, now extended through this evening. I guess he is a sword of the king with his gun. Guns and God kind of guy methinks.

[kakax]

That is not true. The history file shows a creation date of 2007, but the actual search file was JULY 16th

Name: history.dat
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 10/22/07 01:13:21PM
Last Accessed: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\mfhaxjkl.default\his tory.dat


Page 9 here:
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf
What about the one that was last accessed 6/12?

[day2day]

The state also released a list of witnesses who may be called to the stand if Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, is charged.

There are 85 names on the witness list including Anthony's own family and Zenaida Gonalez -- the woman who said Casey and the Anthonys ruined her life by naming her as the babysitter who disappeared with Caylee.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html

[jbellaj]

I have to admit-the bible quoting scares me. BUT -that is HIS "sword" and its better than Cindy's hammer
I also believe that Mr. Grund knows alottttt about the Anthony's..and Caylee! I beleve he loved this littleone like his own...
And compared to the Anthony's he seems rather-normal.

jmo


But does he know the real A's or just the stories Casey conjured up for "oh feel sorry for me"?

[crymeariver2006]

Did Casey make that fan site herself or what? I can't imagine she'd have even 1 friend, much less 12 friends.

Take a look at the captions under the pictures posted. My grammar isn't the best, nor is my spelling but geesh.

Under a picture of Cindy with Caylee,

AWWW ! UNCONDICIONAL LOVE

Did the author of the fan site sound that word out.. and spell it that way?

Yeah, that's the same person who wrote on her cupid.com profile that her daughter and her family made her life "worth wild".

:D

[Lynden1000]

I must admit that I am very curious to see what NG has on tonight. I really don't care for her. I like Greta much better but she has been covering politics for some time now.:flamemad: which by the way my DH thinks I should be doing too.......

Anyway, are we for sure that Mr. Grund Sr. is going to be on NG tonight?

I recommend you don't take hubby's advice. Right now politics is centered around the economic crisis. I can only stand about two minutes of it before i'm convinced we're all going to be living in shoe boxes under bridges. You're better off here. :)

[kakax]

666 go figure...:chicken:


Oh geez....I'm with you:chicken:

[LynnD]

Someone had the link posted a while back but I haven't seen it lately. I can't seem to locate Greta's and I want to e-mail her to find out how much longer will it be before she goes back to covering this case and other missing people's cases. I have a few other questions as well but i'm not going to post those.:D

Man i gave up on Greta.I dont think it was right of her to all the sudden change into a political show.I miss Ted,Bernie,and Janene.Id like too see them move her to an earlier spot and bring Geraldo,or even :gasp: Rita Cosby into the 10 oclock spot.

[desmom]

It doesn't matter what she looks like. It doesn't matter if she's an illegal alien. It doesn't matter if she's a communist. The dogs didn't hit on HER car!!!

Exactly! She is another one of Casey's victims.

[msjoni]

His original picture has been changed to a different headshot, his original showed him and his glock, his gun. It was changed once he began the trek of 15 minutes of fame, now extended through this evening. I guess he is a sword of the king with his gun. Guns and God kind of guy methinks.

Oh, I never saw that picture....:eek:

[bchand]

And not many cash donations...and no gift cards...hammer
And if you read closely -this fund can be helped pay for Caylee's funeral expenses. HMMMM

awww I didn't catch that.

[Broderick]

What about the one that was last accessed 6/12?

It was written as a record on July 16th which is key. All one has to do is trust the computer forensics folks that say the name never appeared in any search until July 16th on any record in history, disk, search, etc.

You can believe the theories or trust the computer experts. imo;

[mosey2]

Exactly...I also remember Cindy "sniffling" cause Casey couldn't have HER bible. Obviously since she is out of jail and on facebook-she doesn't have much time for the Bible. :read::mad:
I think she just used it to see over the steering wheel

[day2day]

But does he know the real A's or just the stories Casey conjured up for "oh feel sorry for me"?

That i am not sure about. I do think he knew the real Caylee and you can see his face light up when he speaks about her. I hope that he doesn't get on NG and say that Casey was sexually abused as a child-i know they will take off and runnnnnn with it...

jmo

[Amy]

Here is an article with more information about the Zenaida who is suing Casey. She claims to have been fired from her job as a manager to a cleaning crew -- due to her boss not wanting the negative publicity to ruin his business. I have no opinions about the lawsuit whatsoever - I am just providing the link..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26749097/

Thanks for the link. I only get on sporadically, and no way can I read the several thousands of posts, and this seemed to be one section I missed out on.

[playnice]

Someone on Caseys fb has posted a link for a group to HELP Casey.


"CASEY IS INNOCENT ... WHO SUPPORTS HER.. I DO."
Global group



http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=43914717272


12 supporters so far.

Baez, Cindy, George, Lee, Miss Casey herself , Holly, 2 really huge BG, BG drives black truck.


Im 3 short. :confused:

[Lynden1000]

That's just his belief system, his faith.

Even Jesse said his family was religious and as customary for Casey, she claimed to be religious too when she was dating Jesse.

He's apparently always been religious (or Pentecostal), as you say, way before this case ever happened.

JMO, but I don't think it makes him a fruitcake.

:)

I don't think he's a fruitcake, but I do suspect that this "Truth" (with a capital T) that is supposed to be revealed today will just be some type of religious propaganda and nothing of real relevance to the case.

[jbellaj]

Cindy stated in the interview she was RELIEVED that he was dead...ya know, no problem with him coming back into caylee's life...

that was such a terrible thing to say.

as far as the information she was to turn over (oh Lee was supposed to give this or that to them)...well, there you go, cindy cloaking the criminal behaviour of Casey...

or was it? Im on the fence as far as penny's until information is forthcoming about her actually USING the card, more importantly, its what Cindy said on the 911 call...BANK STATEMENT. LE asked her several times if it was just ONE CARD...she said yes.

George says differently.

I cant even go back and listen to her again, as she uttered such unspeakable words about a deceased guy, the supposed father of her grandaughter.

best regards,
Pru

Maybe they had separate cards. My husband and I have separate credit card accounts:shrug:

And you're right about that remark about the supposed father..it was awful and shows Cindy's mindset and controlling behavior.JMO

[Katt2]

I agree. I can't believe knowing the way Cindy and Casey fought all the time (according to Lee) that Casey would have given Cindy all of those minute details about her daily life during that time or any time. Cindy knew every little detail about roads traveled, hospitals stayed at, doctor's prognosis, sisters, daughters, insurance papers, etc. and it went on and on. Sorry, I'm not buying it. MOO

I have to say that I do buy it because Casey wanted Cindy to think she was out of town and Caylee was with her. All of Casey's stories have minute details. She is an accomplished liar. The detectives proved that Casey never left Orlando at any time by her phone records.

[Kathlb]

About the same enthusiam that greeted the trust fund apparently. (Brought over from the earlier thread.)


http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/help

Trust Fund Information


The Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony Trust fund was set up to allow the concerned public a vehicle to contribute to finding missing 3 year old, Caylee. Sadly, several people have had their own agenda and ulterior motives by making horrible suggestions that there have been misrepresentations or misappropriations of funds with this account, which has caused others to question the account. Therefore, George and Cindy Anthony are voluntarily providing all of the Trust information and posting the documents online for the public to inspect. Hopefully this will resolve any questions and will put to ease the minds of those with concerns and refocus back on finding little Caylee.


They're claiming Lee's personal paypal acct has $187.84 in it.
It's quite illegible.

They don't show much in the new acct - 9/26 $1,763.53.

If any of you have Paypal accounts and I do since it's how I take payment for work done for others, you draw the money down into your bank account if you want it, or leave it up there. So a balance in Lee's Paypal just shows what is in there at that moment, not what has been in there or what will be in there. There is a record kept on Paypal however of previous transactions so if anyone needed to supeona those records they will show all transactions. MOO

[jbellaj]

According to a friend he emailed-that is what he said. I would much rather listen to him than lenny!! I love Gretta too-she really did a great job when Ray Gricar vanished. I think we all should be paying attention to politics...i think we are all in trouble :(...


jmo

O/t the bail out bill didn't pass....see I do pay attention:D

[kakax]

Zenaida is not pristine clean in this.

I wouldn't put such a bold statement on the message board. You might just be a reason for her to get awarded money.

[CinTN]

That's just his belief system, his faith.

Even Jesse said his family was religious and as customary for Casey, she claimed to be religious too when she was dating Jesse.

He's apparently always been religious (or Pentecostal), as you say, way before this case ever happened.

JMO, but I don't think it makes him a fruitcake.

:)

Oh ITA ,, I am not slamming anyones beliefs ,, please dont take it that way.. as far as Casey being religious, I remember someone ( I think Jessie or TonE) saying she would jump the band wagon of the guy she was " dating" at the time,,

and not slamming Pentecostals but as soon as as i read that i remembered a guy I dated that was a Pentelcostal and yes he and his family were fruitcakes/die hard.

Maybe its just me,, Im not that religious so I have a hard time with things like his blog,, to extreme for me ,,

Remember.. JMO

[jbellaj]

Not only her, but didn't the detective tell George that "all these kids" were coming forward and risking their jobs because their employers told them it better not "come to their workplace"?

He sure did and I wondered about that. Do you think he said that because of Cindy going to the tow yard and questioning that worker after he gave his staement to LE?

[msjoni]

Man i gave up on Greta.I dont think it was right of her to all the sudden change into a political show.I miss Ted,Bernie,and Janene.Id like too see them move her to an earlier spot and bring Geraldo,or even :gasp: Rita Cosby into the 10 oclock spot.

My sister told me awhile ago (before Caylee went missing) that Fox wanted Greta to focus more on politics instead of missing persons...:shrug:

[jbellaj]

In the text to her lover, she's refers to Caylee as "the kid." and " THE SNOT HEAD" !!!!:eek::cuss::flamemad:

Speechless......

LB

IMO that was disgusting

[Pruddennce]

Hi Pru;)
I thought that was odd too.. I was waiting for her to say Casey had a credit or debit card of hers. She denied that outright. Why?

and she denied knowing anything about the car chase. and George stuttered his way thru that, he was upset that he told the FBI about it, without telling Cindy he told the FBI about it.

so there she sits, and lies to LE saying she doesnt know anything about it.

both Lee AND George said she took more than one card of Cindy's....Lee even describes her taking out the pennys card, and then says cindy exclaims, see here is another one!

she lied to LE.

its unnerving. this is about a missing grandchild which these people have all but forgotten. its down to semantics and splitting hairs about their less than stellar family unit relationship.

...that is their priority, preserving the persona of their daughter.

...less important.....Caylee as a missing child...<--collateral damage

and now this ZG... *cant even find an acceptable word to describe her*, wants to cash in on being THE slandered ZG...oh puleeze, what is wrong with these people...I wouldnt be surprised if she has an 'arrangement' with her employer who doctored up the records so they can share 'an anticipated win' together...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[day2day]

I think she just used it to see over the steering wheel

lol-right mosey!!

[summer4meplz]

Did I miss something? I didn't go back and read the whole thread but caught the end of some questioning posters and tatoos. I use ignore for those that "get under the skin" with their posts and it seems alot of people us it on me (don't get much chatter). Anyway, I got a tatoo after my brother died on the inside of my ankle (his initials) as a rememberance of him (actually my sisters also go the same exact one in the same exact spot). We did it in that spot because my brother would have been the first person in troubled times to say "get up on your feet and keep going, it is going to be better". My daughter who was about 10 at the time was upset that I got a tatoo (she had the same opinion that others have about tatoos). Now that she is older she thinks it is a great way to remember him. That is the only tatoo I have but I know that some people use them as a way to express themselves....going back to hiding....:)


No need to hide!! Hiya Ruth:seeya:

[rosejustrose]

Hi Pru;)
I thought that was odd too.. I was waiting for her to say Casey had a credit or debit card of hers. She denied that outright. Why?

I think she's afraid LE will start checking the ATM withdrawls and start figuring out where Casey really was. Also, that raises the question, again, why did she need to steal gas if she had access to an ATM card. JMO.

[marshmallow]

Oh I totally understand them getting mad over that,, but he had this "Sword of Zoro" nonscense, or what ever he calls it, going on long before this case started..

Just like I said IMO he's a fruit cake..

I'm very tolerant of other people's religions and how they choose to follow them. I have an Uncle who came to God later in life and made up for the lost time by embracing religion wholeheartedly. Which is a nice way of say he preached instead of talking. Just because a person embraces their religion in ways you don't doesn't mean they're a cup full of crazy, and in no way does it automatically mean they cannot be considered trustworthy.

[jbellaj]

Exactly...I also remember Cindy "sniffling" cause Casey couldn't have HER bible. Obviously since she is out of jail and on facebook-she doesn't have much time for the Bible. :read::mad:



ummm...If I were her that's what I would be reading on bended knee. JMO

[CinTN]

casey just posted a bunch of things including her status..

Casey marie anthonyis informing everyone that the notes are all from wikipedia...thanks.3 minutes ago

she has added part 2 3 and 4 about nancy grace and how she handled the samantha runion case, the trenton ducket case and info on the elizabeth smart case.


???where???

[bchand]

I think she just used it to see over the steering wheel

ROFL !!!! Very good.

[mosey2]

Casey just posted a bunch of things including her status..

Casey Marie Anthonyis informing everyone that the notes are all from wikipedia...thanks.3 minutes ago

She has added part 2 3 and 4 about Nancy Grace and how she handled the Samantha Runion case, the Trenton Ducket case and info on the Elizabeth Smart case.
Seriously, Is she supposed to be surfing the 'Net? Was that not coverd in the bond conditions??:shrug:
Something stinks in O-town:mad:

And does Baez know she's still talking? (assuming it's really her)

[msjoni]

That i am not sure about. I do think he knew the real Caylee and you can see his face light up when he speaks about her. I hope that he doesn't get on NG and say that Casey was sexually abused as a child-i know they will take off and runnnnnn with it...

jmo

Leonard Padillo has been insinuating that for a while now....:eek:

[jbellaj]

Speaking of a Snot Head, has anyone seen the odious creature today???


No but she had a meeting this morning with her case worker. I wonder what was up with the Sat. meeting with Baez?

[jbellaj]

jbella...here is the link to Greta's blog.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

Thanks....:seeya:

[SavannahStar]

I believe the father would still have to sign over his parental rights before the Anthonys could get Caylee in the event of Casey's death. If there were no father known, every good faith effort must have been made to try and locate him. The lawyer should/would have told them this. Maybe this is why the story of the "father dying in the car accident" came about. Casey had to have been questioned over who this father is/was.

And ITA about tempting God. :chicken:


Since Casey was unmarried when she had Caylee, any presumtive father would have to go through paternity testing before anything was done. And that would be a bit hard, as (at least back when I had knowledge of this), all three would have to have blood tests, mother, presumptive father, and child.

[Joan Weiss]

I heard that they do, glad to hear your son is successful, times are tough right now for everyone. JMO I don't mind one or two tats but when they cover themselves with them it's gross. They will be sorry someday for doing that to their bodies.

Sorry if this was way O/TOh, ITA. He also does a lot of pink ribbon tattoos for breast cancer survivors.

[day2day]

Oh ITA ,, I am not slamming anyones beliefs ,, please dont take it that way.. as far as Casey being religious, I remember someone ( I think Jessie or TonE) saying she would jump the band wagon of the guy she was " dating" at the time,,

and not slamming Pentecostals but as soon as as i read that i remembered a guy I dated that was a Pentelcostal and yes he and his family were fruitcakes/die hard.

Maybe its just me,, Im not that religious so I have a hard time with things like his blog,, to extreme for me ,,

Remember.. JMO

IMO where i come from what Cindy Anthony said about his son to LE would be more than fighting words. SHE should be thanking her GOD that he is a bible believer and not a heathen like her daughter. :shrug:
JMO

And yep we have pentecostal churches where i come from!!

[msjoni]

It's an election year!! I hate to say it because I hate being stuck with NG -the only one covering the case... But SHEESH! PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION! It's a VERY BIG DEAL!

I agree, this election is a very big deal...

[bchand]

If any of you have Paypal accounts and I do since it's how I take payment for work done for others, you draw the money down into your bank account if you want it, or leave it up there. So a balance in Lee's Paypal just shows what is in there at that moment, not what has been in there or what will be in there. There is a record kept on Paypal however of previous transactions so if anyone needed to supeona those records they will show all transactions. MOO


Thanks Kath - I had NO doubt that this report wouldn't show all the money donated.

[day2day]

Leonard Padillo has been insinuating that for a while now....:eek:

Yes he has-Lenny bounty hunter/dna expert! I would love to know where he gets his info from..

[jbellaj]

I recommend you don't take hubby's advice. Right now politics is centered around the economic crisis. I can only stand about two minutes of it before i'm convinced we're all going to be living in shoe boxes under bridges. You're better off here. :)


Brings back the memories when I was a kid and my parents always saying how lucky I was. They grew up during the great depression.

I like it here but this case puts me in a bad mood because it disgusts me when a child goes missing in the first place but with all the twist and turns of this one I get dizzy trying to keep up.

[Rayosunshine]

Let's see, Zanny, Samantha, Juliette, Racquel, blah, blah, blah, they're all her invisible friends, IMO.

Maybe "imaginary" friends.

[WingNIt]

Casey's Face Book comments can be found here...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72213

Good Evening All...I'm trying to catch up so forgive me if this has been verified already but when I searched for Casey on Facebook, I found TWO facebook accounts with her picture. They are both set so you can't see the actual account unless you're her friend but one has a picture of her wrapped in the flag and the other is the one with the picture of her and Caylee. How do we know either one is actually her??:shrug: TIA

[aubrey04]

Casey just posted a bunch of things including her status..

Casey Marie Anthonyis informing everyone that the notes are all from wikipedia...thanks.3 minutes ago

She has added part 2 3 and 4 about Nancy Grace and how she handled the Samantha Runion case, the Trenton Ducket case and info on the Elizabeth Smart case.

So Casey is spending her time researching Nancy Grace.. and posting about her? She has a 3 year old who is missing, right? Why isn't she researching where her daughter is?

Wait.. We already know why.. Casey knows she's not alive. Attacking Nancy Grace's credibility is a waste of time.. "a complete waste".. and it is making Casey look bad, not NG.

and I am not even a NG fan, but let's get real here.. Who is the one with the missing 3 year old who didn't report that child missing for 31 days? Toe-to-toe, I think I would rather have Nancy's reputation over Casey's.

[AustinsMama]

Casey just posted a bunch of things including her status..

Casey Marie Anthonyis informing everyone that the notes are all from wikipedia...thanks.3 minutes ago

She has added part 2 3 and 4 about Nancy Grace and how she handled the Samantha Runion case, the Trenton Ducket case and info on the Elizabeth Smart case.

Wow - she added me on her facebook and she is busy posting to discredit Nancy Grace. Wonder if Nancy knows this....it would be funny if she called Casey out on her show now that she knows the POI is calling her out!

[SavannahStar]

The man is passionate about his God. Sword of Kings just means he is doing God's work on earth.

That can't be a bad thing


ITA. "Sword of the king" is Biblical.

[bluwaters]

Protecting the Anthony family from protesters

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7538603&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[day2day]

O/t the bail out bill didn't pass....see I do pay attention:D

I saw that!! ..And I am so proud of you. We need one more eye-i think! One eye -Caylee, One eye for the bailout-one for work...
hammer

[jbellaj]

Man i gave up on Greta.I dont think it was right of her to all the sudden change into a political show.I miss Ted,Bernie,and Janene.Id like too see them move her to an earlier spot and bring Geraldo,or even :gasp: Rita Cosby into the 10 oclock spot.


I miss Bernie...the heck with Geraldo, he's as bad as NG...

RITA COSBY.....NOT:chicken:

[SavannahStar]

I'll tell you what I thought from the beginning re the whole mystery of how Casey came up with the name ZFG. I think she may have been a regular visitor to "new mommy" message boards, you know where new mothers share their experiences and get advice, etc. I know several very young mothers, including my own niece, who like chatting on these boards. There was that one board called "Moms of Brevard County" or something like that and one of the people that wrote articles on child care for that board was a lady named....... Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. They even had her pic posted on the board. If you do a search for Brevard County Moms, you'll probably find it. Anywho, I have always thought that was how Casey could have come up with the name ZFG.


Casey lived in Orange County though. I don't know why she'd be searching anything in Brevard County.

[Pruddennce]

Yes he has-Lenny bounty hunter/dna expert! I would love to know where he gets his info from..

he gets his theories from people like you, people right here :cool:

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[jbellaj]

That i am not sure about. I do think he knew the real Caylee and you can see his face light up when he speaks about her. I hope that he doesn't get on NG and say that Casey was sexually abused as a child-i know they will take off and runnnnnn with it...

jmo

As far as Caylee ITA with you......I hope they do the abuse defense....it didn't work for Susan Smith now did it...JMO

[kakax]

This group is OBVIOUSLY set up by the family, asking for donations etc.

Lee accepts money transfers, btw.

http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=29018341484



I'll go right now to my closest Western Union:rolleyes:

[jbellaj]

If any of you have Paypal accounts and I do since it's how I take payment for work done for others, you draw the money down into your bank account if you want it, or leave it up there. So a balance in Lee's Paypal just shows what is in there at that moment, not what has been in there or what will be in there. There is a record kept on Paypal however of previous transactions so if anyone needed to supeona those records they will show all transactions. MOO


I never knew that

[Broderick]

No but she had a meeting this morning with her case worker. I wonder what was up with the Sat. meeting with Baez?

Baez? The self proclaimed veteran high profile trial attorney with a long and respected career? That one? My oh my what 3 meager years can be twisted into. Joke of a lawyer.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf

[jbellaj]

Casey just posted a bunch of things including her status..

Casey Marie Anthonyis informing everyone that the notes are all from wikipedia...thanks.3 minutes ago

She has added part 2 3 and 4 about Nancy Grace and how she handled the Samantha Runion case, the Trenton Ducket case and info on the Elizabeth Smart case.


If she is quoting the Trenton Duckett case...ummmm now that makes me think.....

[shelbar53]

:eek:



:D

Where does he call himself that? :D

http://http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148

[msjoni]

ITA. "Sword of the king" is Biblical.

Here's lyrics to a song titled "Sword of the king"
http://www.metrolyrics.com/sword-of-the-king-lyrics-sacred-steel.html

[day2day]

he gets his theories from people like you, people right here :cool:

IMO

best regards,
Pru

I can honestly say that has NOT been one of my theories.

[Broderick]

:eek:



:D

Where does he call himself that? :D

That is his myspace name.

[playnice]

Protecting the Anthony family from protesters

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7538603&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

When Lenny and CO revoked that bond because of safety issues I remember Cindy blowing it off and stating her family had not been threatened. I have never heard of someone bailing out and taxpapers money pays for guards.

[jbellaj]

and she denied knowing anything about the car chase. and George stuttered his way thru that, he was upset that he told the FBI about it, without telling Cindy he told the FBI about it.

so there she sits, and lies to LE saying she doesnt know anything about it.

both Lee AND George said she took more than one card of Cindy's....Lee even describes her taking out the pennys card, and then says cindy exclaims, see here is another one!

she lied to LE.

its unnerving. this is about a missing grandchild which these people have all but forgotten. its down to semantics and splitting hairs about their less than stellar family unit relationship.

...that is their priority, preserving the persona of their daughter.

...less important.....Caylee as a missing child...<--collateral damage

and now this ZG... *cant even find an acceptable word to describe her*, wants to cash in on being THE slandered ZG...oh puleeze, what is wrong with these people...I wouldnt be surprised if she has an 'arrangement' with her employer who doctored up the records so they can share 'an anticipated win' together...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

I know if you lie to the FBI look out you're in big trouble...is the penalty the same for just the regular LE?

[shelbar53]

:eek:



:D

Where does he call himself that? :D
oops other post had to many http in it

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148

[day2day]

I'll go right now to my closest Western Union:rolleyes:

I will flatten your tires! LOL

[CinTN]

On her facebook. Casey Marie Anthony

http://www.new.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1467524931&ref=nf

crap ,, I dont have an account there... I had seen on "another web site ;) " they had accounts set up for myspace and facebook and posted the log in info for anyone to use so you dont have to use yours...

[rosejustrose]

Baez, Cindy, George, Lee, Miss Casey herself , Holly, 2 really huge BG, BG drives black truck.


Im 3 short. :confused:

Someone posted earlier, the 3 searchers.

[playnice]

If she is quoting the Trenton Duckett case...ummmm now that makes me think.....

Well, if she isnt going to run, :shrug: J/K

[bchand]

Exactly and some middle aged man just commented on her posts and told her she is making herself look VERY guilty by doing a smear campagne instead of searching for Caylee.

lol did he introduce himself as a middle-aged man?

[jbellaj]

Oh, ITA. He also does a lot of pink ribbon tattoos for breast cancer survivors.


GOD Bless him for that..:rose:

[kakax]

It was written as a record on July 16th which is key. All one has to do is trust the computer forensics folks that say the name never appeared in any search until July 16th on any record in history, disk, search, etc.

You can believe the theories or trust the computer experts. imo;

Yes sir!!:biggrin: I believe you I think.

[MyrDawn]

Protecting the Anthony family from protesters

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7538603&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Did anyone notice at that link, it also says:
"Sheriff Beary says they are waiting for a few pieces of evidence to come back from the FBI. He says that just doesn't happen over night. He also said they are being so careful right now because they are afraid to make a mistake since detectives may someday have to work a homicide case without a body. "

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7538603&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[SavannahStar]

The state also released a list of witnesses who may be called to the stand if Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, is charged.

There are 85 names on the witness list including Anthony's own family and Zenaida Gonalez -- the woman who said Casey and the Anthonys ruined her life by naming her as the babysitter who disappeared with Caylee.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html


Interesting article.

"It's a very sensitive case and it always is tough and if you end up going down that path of working a homicide case without a body, it’s even tougher," Beary said.

Beary said this is one of the most difficult cases he's faced in his 16 years as sheriff. He said his team wants to get it right the first time.


Just like I've posted here before: this is NOT a simple case!

[desmom]

Casey lived in Orange County though. I don't know why she'd be searching anything in Brevard County.


It is a message board where Moms share helpful child rearing hints, coupon swap, arts and crafts for children, upcoming events in the area, recipes and snack ideas...

[msjoni]

I can honestly say that has NOT been one of my theories.

Nor mine...

[AustinsMama]

Here is what a FB friend of Casey's wrote on her FB wall in regards to her postings about Nancy Grace:

"even though all of that is true
you shouldn't get into a battle, or a smear campaign, it make you look like you are guilty, and we all know thats not the case. you should just ignore the nay sayers and let them deal with their own negativity. you should just keep thinking positive, and try to move on with your life, as hard as that is"
Carl

Am I allowed to post this?

[msjoni]

I know if you lie to the FBI look out you're in big trouble...is the penalty the same for just the regular LE?

I wonder if Cindy said the same things to the FBI?

[jbellaj]

Yes it is....I was thinking...whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? IMO She is totally cutoff from Caylee as her child! Referring Caylee like that is a big red flag. Most people say my child, or Caylee, or a cute pet name...not snot head...:flamemad:

LB


I agree but I will admit that there were time when I referred to my boys as little rug rats but it was in jest.

[playnice]

It is a message board where Moms share helpful child rearing hints, coupon swap, arts and crafts for children, upcoming events in the area, recipes and snack ideas...

Gosh I sure hope no young mothers are on there and take Caseys advice.:eek:

[CinTN]

About 700 friends right now.




DOUBLE ,, barf

( had to add something ,, message was to short )

[bluwaters]

Aye Carumba.... Maybe he's going to announce that he's cast the demons out of somebody?
Too bad he hasn't yet cast them out of Casey :flamemad:

[jbellaj]

So Casey is spending her time researching Nancy Grace.. and posting about her? She has a 3 year old who is missing, right? Why isn't she researching where her daughter is?

Wait.. We already know why.. Casey knows she's not alive. Attacking Nancy Grace's credibility is a waste of time.. "a complete waste".. and it is making Casey look bad, not NG.

and I am not even a NG fan, but let's get real here.. Who is the one with the missing 3 year old who didn't report that child missing for 31 days? Toe-to-toe, I think I would rather have Nancy's reputation over Casey's.

Your post made my day...:beer:

[kakax]

Maybe they had separate cards. My husband and I have separate credit card accounts:shrug:

And you're right about that remark about the supposed father..it was awful and shows Cindy's mindset and controlling behavior.JMO

My hubs and I have separate checking accounts and credit card accounts:tongue: Mine is play money and his is bill money rofl.

[day2day]

Interesting article.

"It's a very sensitive case and it always is tough and if you end up going down that path of working a homicide case without a body, it’s even tougher," Beary said.

Beary said this is one of the most difficult cases he's faced in his 16 years as sheriff. He said his team wants to get it right the first time.


Just like I've posted here before: this is NOT a simple case!

Not at all Savannah. Thes guys have their work cut out for them...thats for sure. I don't envy any of them.

[Texas48]

I personally don't think she can, different name, different age, Casey said she didn't have kids, she also said it wasn't her when showed a picture. I think if she was fired as a result of this it is her ex boss she should sue. I don't think she will get far, but others dissagree.

moo I do not disagree with you luvinlife. Possibly she or an attorney saw a chance to get something for nothing. I can not remember how many times LE stated to the media that this ZG was NOT the one. This ZG had nothing to do w/this case. How many times was this said over and over. It could have stopped right there but then came the interviews w/this ZG. That was what she chose to do. How many interviews has she done to date? And then she wants to sue. GrannyB was correct. So many people are sue happy. JMO

[bchand]

Baez? The self proclaimed veteran high profile trial attorney with a long and respected career? That one? My oh my what 3 meager years can be twisted into. Joke of a lawyer.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf

The header on that fax is too busy and has too many different fonts. Looks very amateurish to me.

I read quickly at the top and thought it said World Wide Pants! (Letterman's company.)

[jbellaj]

I saw that!! ..And I am so proud of you. We need one more eye-i think! One eye -Caylee, One eye for the bailout-one for work...
hammer


I know what you mean:D

[day2day]

Gosh I sure hope no young mothers are on there and take Caseys advice.:eek:

coupon swapping? and where in the world is casey gonna cash in a coupon at?! JAIL?

[barskin&co.]

Did anyone notice at that link, it also says:
"Sheriff Beary says they are waiting for a few pieces of evidence to come back from the FBI. He says that just doesn't happen over night. He also said they are being so careful right now because they are afraid to make a mistake since detectives may someday have to work a homicide case without a body. "

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7538603&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Now, that sounds promising!

[jbellaj]

Exactly and some middle aged man just commented on her posts and told her she is making herself look VERY guilty by doing a smear campagne instead of searching for Caylee.

GOOD FOR HIM cause he's right....IMO

[SavannahStar]

Mini-me-moderator has arrived! :patriot:


The whole thing is hysterical .... people up in arms about something as simple as "Zenaida is not pristine." Compare THAT to all that's been said about Cindy Anthony on here. :lol:

[frances1]

I'll tell you what I thought from the beginning re the whole mystery of how Casey came up with the name ZFG. I think she may have been a regular visitor to "new mommy" message boards, you know where new mothers share their experiences and get advice, etc. I know several very young mothers, including my own niece, who like chatting on these boards. There was that one board called "Moms of Brevard County" or something like that and one of the people that wrote articles on child care for that board was a lady named....... Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. They even had her pic posted on the board. If you do a search for Brevard County Moms, you'll probably find it. Anywho, I have always thought that was how Casey could have come up with the name ZFG.

Moonbeam, this is also I believe the SAME ZFG who reported to police that her office had been broken into a little before the time the whole Anthony case came to light.

By the way, I have lovely tattooed eyebrows because mine never really came back after treatment for breast cancer. Is that acceptable? I thank God for the wonderful RN who has been doing this type of tattoo work for fourteen years.

[jbellaj]

Baez? The self proclaimed veteran high profile trial attorney with a long and respected career? That one? My oh my what 3 meager years can be twisted into. Joke of a lawyer.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf

Did he get that tittle before or after he took this case?

[True2Blues]

Too bad he hasn't yet cast them out of Casey :flamemad:

She'd probably disappear.

[bluwaters]

I agree. I can't believe knowing the way Cindy and Casey fought all the time (according to Lee) that Casey would have given Cindy all of those minute details about her daily life during that time or any time. Cindy knew every little detail about roads traveled, hospitals stayed at, doctor's prognosis, sisters, daughters, insurance papers, etc. and it went on and on. Sorry, I'm not buying it. MOO

Yes, but Cindy can't quite recall the name of Caylee's father? :shrug:

[day2day]

You sure were nicer to me before I told you who I was in PM..sad.

uhoh-should we be afraid of you ? and your post count was 666 :chicken: lol

[barskin&co.]

Unless she can provide proof..I'd call it accusing..but thats just me.

It most assuredly is an accusation. Zenaida Gonzalez has nothing to do with the Caylee Anthony case. But, as ususal this same poster makes these post and run insinuations. I have yet to see this poster exhibit enough courage in her convictions to explain or offer a lick of proof for any of these drive-by slurs.

[LynnD]

Baez? The self proclaimed veteran high profile trial attorney with a long and respected career? That one? My oh my what 3 meager years can be twisted into. Joke of a lawyer.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf


Ugh what a clown.What's it to him if we see a pic of baby Lucy?WGAS man,find out where Caylee is and stop worrying about NG,she KNOWS where her kids are tonite...I also love his smart Alec emails to LE,like its thier fault Casey won't talk...I swear 90% of the people involved in this case,are so ridiculous ,i wanna SCREAM :cuss:

[jbellaj]

When Lenny and CO revoked that bond because of safety issues I remember Cindy blowing it off and stating her family had not been threatened. I have never heard of someone bailing out and taxpapers money pays for guards.


But prior to that Cindy stated they were recieving threats. That woman just can't make up her mind..we need a dizzy icon because I find myself dizzy most of the time where the A's are concerned. JMO

[aubrey04]

This group is OBVIOUSLY set up by the family, asking for donations etc.

Lee accepts money transfers, btw.

http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=29018341484

You can also write a check payable to "Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony"... Is anyone that crazy to actually send them a check? Casey has already proven she is "into" identity theft. Who in the world would send these people a check from their banking account?

[SavannahStar]

It is a message board where Moms share helpful child rearing hints, coupon swap, arts and crafts for children, upcoming events in the area, recipes and snack ideas...

I understand that. Why wouldn't she go on a similar board in Orlando County since that's where she lives? I dunno, her scouting on that type of board and then "discovering" ZG is just tooooooo much of a stretch for me.

[playnice]

Somehow I just can't picture Casey spending her online time at a site like that.

Baez probably told her to clean up her act and get all motherly and she is probably hating it and saying "What a waste."

Dont they see people see right through them? She wasnt on them BEFORE Caylee went missing.

[trt]

"may not be pristine" is hardly an accusation.
:rolleyes:

Is "is not pristine" an accusation? Because that's what DG said.

[jbellaj]

Well, if she isnt going to run, :shrug: J/K

IMO Melinda Duckett got away with murder. Casey Anthony will not.

[marshmallow]

Wow - she added me on her facebook and she is busy posting to discredit Nancy Grace. Wonder if Nancy knows this....it would be funny if she called Casey out on her show now that she knows the POI is calling her out!

maybe that's why she's doing it (if it is her) to get talked about...

[jbellaj]

Interesting article.

"It's a very sensitive case and it always is tough and if you end up going down that path of working a homicide case without a body, it’s even tougher," Beary said.

Beary said this is one of the most difficult cases he's faced in his 16 years as sheriff. He said his team wants to get it right the first time.


Just like I've posted here before: this is NOT a simple case!

I don't blame him. IMO let them take all the time they need.

[playnice]

You can also write a check payable to "Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony"... Is anyone that crazy to actually send them a check? Casey has already proven she is "into" identity theft. Who in the world would send these people a check from their banking account?

No body is surely that stupid. If they are, they Deserve to get wiped out.

[Rayosunshine]

The whole thing is hysterical .... people up in arms about something as simple as "Zenaida is not pristine." Compare THAT to all that's been said about Cindy Anthony on here. :lol:

Exactly. It is OK for some, but certainly not for others.

[jbellaj]

Here is what a FB friend of Casey's wrote on her FB wall in regards to her postings about Nancy Grace:

"even though all of that is true
you shouldn't get into a battle, or a smear campaign, it make you look like you are guilty, and we all know thats not the case. you should just ignore the nay sayers and let them deal with their own negativity. you should just keep thinking positive, and try to move on with your life, as hard as that is"
Carl

Am I allowed to post this?

Oh, but never said you should be looking for Caylee if your story is true. :flamemad:

[jbellaj]

I wonder if Cindy said the same things to the FBI?

I guess we won't find out until the trial

[day2day]

I was hoping the 66 post would hurry and come and go..lol...nah I'm nothing to worry about.

...i was j/kiddin ya-i know your not!! I read that the Anthony's are being asked to hold the vigils inside or in the back yard. I bet Cindy isn't happy bout that! jmo

[trt]

I agree but I will admit that there were time when I referred to my boys as little rug rats but it was in jest.

I have also had less than *endearing* things to say about my children as well (little rugrats, my lil monsters, hurricaine, lol). If that was *all* that we have to judge Casey on, I'd say its no big deal. But in light of the fact that she *misplaced* her daughter less than a year after calling her a snot head has to be looked at in the context. JMO

[margaret kep]

Has anyone heard mention of Annie Downing. Have looked and looked but can't find any transcript on her. She is supposed to be CA's best and closest friend.:shrug:

[bluwaters]

That's just his belief system, his faith.

Even Jesse said his family was religious and as customary for Casey, she claimed to be religious too when she was dating Jesse.

He's apparently always been religious (or Pentecostal), as you say, way before this case ever happened.

JMO, but I don't think it makes him a fruitcake.

:)

He is freely expressing his religious beliefs on his MySpace page.
He is a man of very strong faith.
If you have seen Richard Grund give an interview, he is hands down the sanest one in the entire tragedy. He appears very well grounded and realistic, he truly loves Caylee, and he is appalled that his son has been accused taking Caylee! Tonight, he plans to answer with the Truth. I expect he will be as believable tonight as he has been in the past.
His religious beliefs and manner of expression may not appeal to many, but I do believe that he is man with a great deal of integrity and is trustworthy.
I also believe that he and the entire family grieve for Caylee.
In all of this suffering, I bet that Richard G is thankful that the marriage of Casey to Jesse did not come off!
Jesse may have a broken heart, but he sure did dodge a bullet when Casey backed out of the engagement! :chicken:

jmho