Monday, Sept. 29th/ Evening/ Day 105

[impartial]

:seeya: Ido, I do!!

'Daddysgirl' made an unfounded, false post trying to insinuate something sinister about Mr Grund. In the post she mentioned Mr Grund now believes 'Sammy has Caylee', when in reality Mr Grund said that he believes Caylee may be with 'Sammy', his dog that died in December. (He thinks they may both be in heaven)
When posters (myself included) pointed out that DG was twisting Mr Grunds words, DG sent a PM to the poster Ray with some supposed super double secret info on who 'Sammy' really is.
Ray then made the comment on the board that if posters "knew who 'Sammy' really was they wouldnt be laughing".
When many posters asked her who Sammy really is, or if there is any proof there really IS a Sammy, Ray said she couldnt/wouldnt tell for a variety of reasons....
Thats the short summary....:confused:


Thanks !!!

Now I'm curious, wonder who Sammy really is ... not necessary in the real sense, but in the pm sense.

:seeya:

[babblefishie]

:seeya: Ido, I do!!

'Daddysgirl' made an unfounded, false post trying to insinuate something sinister about Mr Grund. In the post she mentioned Mr Grund now believes 'Sammy has Caylee', when in reality Mr Grund said that he believes Caylee may be with 'Sammy', his dog that died in December. (He thinks they may both be in heaven)
When posters (myself included) pointed out that DG was twisting Mr Grunds words, DG sent a PM to the poster Ray with some supposed super double secret info on who 'Sammy' really is.
Ray then made the comment on the board that if posters "knew who 'Sammy' really was they wouldnt be laughing".
When many posters asked her who Sammy really is, or if there is any proof there really IS a Sammy, Ray said she couldnt/wouldnt tell for a variety of reasons....
Thats the short summary....:confused:

Wow.... thanks for the summary! There are a few posters who really like to stir the pot on here eh? :eek:

[day2day]

I can't beleive the other "young peoples" parents aren't up in arms- Amy, etc Maybe this is so bizarre they just want to lay low so they don't get dragged further by this psycho family into :flamemad:hades.

MMhhm they are saying--Amy who?! lol

[dtviewer]

Thanks !!!

Now I'm curious, wonder who Sammy really is ... not necessary in the real sense, but in the pm sense.

:seeya:


Well, we know that there really WAS a dog that died named Sammy and Caylee was fond of the dog according to the Grunds.

As far as the other Sammy, I would bet the only people who believe she is real is Cindy and a couple random posters.......

[impartial]

Whew! Good, cause I like that your brain is chock-full of really great stuff. Dont worry about answering my posts. At least not until an intelligent one comes out. LOL


I read and enjoy all of your posts ... well, maybe not all, but all that I see. I don't have time to play catch up a lot, so have to come in the middle, and then back again in the middle if too many pages go by ... twin 8 year olds keep me hopping.

[?noanswer]

Earlier on the thread when there was a question as to whether she said, "is not" or "might not be", I did a post search. There is no sign of her.

She is still a registered user, but the post that caused a stir is no longer here. JMO

[kakax]

I guess it means what I think it means ?

Yea hang on I'll pm you with it.

[bchand]

No. Ricardo Morales is the one who said he heard Casey talk about Zenaida.

Page 101

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

He said "Zenita"

[hamebone]

But how would she have know that this ZFG would be going there. Just a coincidence?

BTW I agree with you, just trying to figure out how it would have worked!


Is the real zenaida middle name - fernandez?

what name did she fill out on the visitors card?

[mosey2]

BUT..........IF CASEY was tracking any ZENAIDA ,she could not have tracked her to SAWDRASS APTS to follow her ,because ZFG did NOT live there..so it had ro be just coincidence that Casey saw the register record somehow that ZFG checked out the apt on 6-17 -08No I'm saying a possible scenario would be;
Casey is sitting at McD'd and hears some kids call a lady Zenaida, and *BING* Casey found someone to pin it on. So she wipes the bbq sauce off the front of her shirt, and waits until Z gets into her car and follows her to Sawgrass. Casey assumes she lives there.

[nana6]

:seeya: Ido, I do!!

'Daddysgirl' made an unfounded, false post trying to insinuate something sinister about Mr Grund. In the post she mentioned Mr Grund now believes 'Sammy has Caylee', when in reality Mr Grund said that he believes Caylee may be with 'Sammy', his dog that died in December. (He thinks they may both be in heaven)
When posters (myself included) pointed out that DG was twisting Mr Grunds words, DG sent a PM to the poster Ray with some supposed super double secret info on who 'Sammy' really is.
Ray then made the comment on the board that if posters "knew who 'Sammy' really was they wouldnt be laughing".
When many posters asked her who Sammy really is, or if there is any proof there really IS a Sammy, Ray said she couldnt/wouldnt tell for a variety of reasons....
Thats the short summary....:confused:

i am beginning to think i am an idiot!!! Break this down for me in simple terms, it;s late and i am getting goofy!

[mosey2]

Is the real zenaida middle name - fernandez?

what name did she fill out on the visitors card?
Z didnt fill out the card the sawgrass employee did "Zenaida Gonzalez"

From a seed of truth Casey grows a forest of lies!

[dtviewer]

He said "Zenita"

Did he say 'Zenita', or did whoever transcribed his interview write 'Zenita'?

Thanks

[summer4meplz]

For her .. it technically ended when Casey did NOT pick her photo out.



Casey has been known to lie.....:)

[bluwaters]

Does anyone know who Rich Granard is? He is on the list of witnesses. I don't recall his name?
Do you have the witness list?
I am trying to find it.
TIA :seeya:

[dtviewer]

Is the real zenaida middle name - fernandez?

what name did she fill out on the visitors card?


No, the real Zeneida is not ZFG.
Just ZG.

[anyonesguess]

Thanks Lost - ooh, I was so excited thinking I was first one to discover Annie D. I do so want to help in this little angel's life. My heart fell apart when I saw the video of little angel eith ggf and she just grabbed ggf around neck then gave him a kiss. How Sweet:rose:

Margaret, I recently saw that video on you tube I believe, and the GGF is singing very softly to her at that time he is holding her. He is singing You Are My Sunshine. Makes me want to cry every time I see it.

I have often wondered if that ws the last kiss from anyone that Caylee ever received from her GGF.

[day2day]

Casey has been known to lie.....:)

***THUD**** you're kidding!! lol

[barskin&co.]

No. Ricardo Morales is the one who said he heard Casey talk about Zenaida.

Page 101

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

Whoops! You're right. I mixed them up. Good catch.

[bluwaters]

Thank goodness. I doubt Today pays. But I'm sure they'll put you up someplace really nice and pay for your first class plane ticket.
Or send a limo for you that takes you to the studio in Orlando?
Was she really in NY?

[hamebone]

Z didnt fill out the card the sawgrass employee did "Zenaida Gonzalez"

From a seed of truth Casey grows a forest of lies!

do you know if her middle name is fernandez?

[dtviewer]

do you know if her middle name is fernandez?

Its not....

[mosey2]

I agree that is Casey's MO she scrabbles info......That has worked for years....people either do not check up on her or they get so frustrated they through their arms up in the air.....THATS WHAT LIARS DO....There is usually a grain of truth in every lie. Cindy's the same way......But they have finally met their matches......

Wonder what Cindy thought of NG tonight??........LOLI wouldn't be surprised if Cindy now thinks Nancy Grace has Caylee:eek:

[frances1]

Do you have the witness list?
I am trying to find it.
TIA :seeya:


Blu, we must be invisible. I've asked the same thing.

[nana6]

Forgive me for this but I have to say what just passed through my mind- frozen. Somehow, somewhere. Its possible.:shrug:

ITA They need to check. I just saw tonight on the news, a mother was arrested because they found her two daughters in her freezer!!! Geesh, the 3rd daughter had signs of abuse and they removed her from the home. Good Lord, I think her two who were found dead were 10 and 12.

[hamebone]

No, the real Zeneida is not ZFG.
Just ZG.


THANKS!

So casey may have used this woman that was at the sawgrass apt...but added the name -fernandez, so she doesnt really use her....you know what I mean... a red herring.

[kakax]

Do you have the witness list?
I am trying to find it.
TIA :seeya:

I just saw a glimpse of it on the video from the link you provided. You can see about 8 names. They were waving it like a tease LOL!

[barskin&co.]

Did he say 'Zenita', or did whoever transcribed his interview write 'Zenita'?

Thanks

I think he said Zeh-nee-tah, and it was transcribed as Zenita. :shrug:

[playnice]

I wonder if casey even knows how to tell the truth? I wonder if she just spins one lie after the other to Baez? He must be on pins and needles wondering how to defend her and what she tells him may come back during trial to bite him in the butt.

[kakax]

Blu, we must be invisible. I've asked the same thing.



I'm sorry, got distracted...it was on the video of Blue links tonight. The video showed about 8 names.

[?noanswer]

do you know if her middle name is fernandez?


The name on the form filled out regarding the lawsuit lists her name as "Zenida Fernandez-Gonzales". JMO

[nana6]

Good night all. See you tomorrow. :rose: for little Caylee, may she come home soon.

[mosey2]

do you know if her middle name is fernandez?I have never read anything that states the REAL Z's middle name is Fernandez. The real Z recently got married and is now Zenaida Rosado

[kakax]

I think he said Zeh-nee-tah, and it was transcribed as Zenita. :shrug:

Potatos Potaatos, tomatos tomaatos...

Remember I am next in line for throne of the moron Kingdom and am like Dan Quail and can't remember how to spell either rofl!! I'm just human though!! LOL!

[bchand]

Did he say 'Zenita', or did whoever transcribed his interview write 'Zenita'?

Thanks

According to the document posted upthread, he said Zenita 3 times.

[bluwaters]

Ooooh Yeeeeah. What I was saying was .. it's not like this woman hasn't been cleared. Casey didn't point to her and say "THAT'S HER" .. know what I mean?
Well, yeah. It wasn't in Casey's best interest to actually locate the low down child thieving ZFG. The damage was still done to an innocent bystander.

[impartial]

I wonder if casey even knows how to tell the truth? I wonder if she just spins one lie after the other to Baez? He must be on pins and needles wondering how to defend her and what she tells him may come back during trial to bite him in the butt.


He won't rely on anything that Casey tells him, unless it has verification and confirmation.

He will rely on Casey's friends (Casey wouldn't harm Caylee intentionally); forensics, or lack thereof; no prior history of abuse; etc.

IMO

[dtviewer]

So before Sawgrass she was Zenaida? After Sawgrass Zenaida Gonzales? And after a web search on July 16th Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales of New York and Puerto Rico?


I dont think so.
She told her parents/LE about ZFG on July 15th.
The searches on the computer were July 16th.
I think the searches were done by the Anthony family trying to find ZFG because Casey told them that is who took Caylee.
I dont think Casey ever searched the name. Im also begining to believe the ZG that looked at Sawgrass was just a coincidence.

[kakax]

I saw the waving list ... You could read that?:cool:


I paused it lol!

[hamebone]

I wonder if casey even knows how to tell the truth? I wonder if she just spins one lie after the other to Baez? He must be on pins and needles wondering how to defend her and what she tells him may come back during trial to bite him in the butt.


I have wondered myself if she believes her own lies.

Baez, isnt all that bright IMO, when he does talk to media he sounds just a screwy as the A's do.

[kakax]

Yup they were swimming in it; hence the name. it was all in fun, I read the posts too just bachelors having fun. They are not evil people.
Normal healthy 20 somethings to me :grins:



Nite!!! Sleep well!

[bchand]

I wonder if casey even knows how to tell the truth? I wonder if she just spins one lie after the other to Baez? He must be on pins and needles wondering how to defend her and what she tells him may come back during trial to bite him in the butt.


You're right. He can't believe anything she says PLUS she's free and apparently on the internet talking. We heard how much she loves to talk and talk and talk. Won't be long before BAEZ requests that her bail be rescinded. lol

Gonna be a tough case for him in court.

[bluwaters]

I just saw a glimpse of it on the video from the link you provided. You can see about 8 names. They were waving it like a tease LOL!
Rats! I even email Bob Kealing, the WESH reporter in the video, and asked him where to find it! LOL!
Still waiting on his reply...

[kakax]

I can see Russia from my house.


OMG rofl!! That was hysterical!

[day2day]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cindy now thinks Nancy Grace has Caylee:eek:

:eek: ..that wouldn't surprise me one bit. I wonder if Cindy lied to the FBI like she lied to the OCSO?!

[babblefishie]

Well, yeah. It wasn't in Casey's best interest to actually locate the low down child thieving ZFG. The damage was still done to an innocent bystander.

Well put blu... the goal is to cast doubt on others and therefore shine the light away from her own dirty deeds... But people still get hurt. :(

[barskin&co.]

Ooooh Yeeeeah. What I was saying was .. it's not like this woman hasn't been cleared. Casey didn't point to her and say "THAT'S HER" .. know what I mean?

Actually, Casey pointed to a picure of her and said "that's not her." And then she looked at pictures of every other Zenaida Gonzalez in the DAVID system and said "it's not them."

Once back in the Universal parking lot Sargeant Allen pulled up all the Zenaida Gonzalez's in our DAVID system. [Casey Anthony] couldn't identify any of them based on this. I had him pull up the photo of the Zenaida I had just spoken with, and [Casey Anthony] said she didn't recognize her.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf
Page 18 of 432

[bchand]

I can't believe that Baez hasn't told her to not get on the internet while at home or at least if she is on there not to post about anything.

Is he a newbie? :rolleyes:

Have you SEEN him in court? (bond hearing and arraignments)

Yep, he's a newbie. If we get a decent prosecutor, they will make mincemeat out of him. I think I may even be embarrassed for him. (Naaaa I take that back.)

[bluwaters]

I can see Russia from my house.

:lol: great line!

[babblefishie]

I can't believe that Baez hasn't told her to not get on the internet while at home or at least if she is on there not to post about anything.

Is he a newbie? :rolleyes:

Even if you DID advise Casey to avoid the internet, she wouldn't listen. Both Cindy and Casey find it impossible not to interact with the media in some way, shape or form. Even though it always makes it worse. I'm glad Casey is on blabbing away... She doesn't KNOW how to portray normal human spectrum of emotions. She always gets it wrong and every keystroke she does is evidence. :no::no: Miss Anthony better get ready for scary prison version of the hot body contest MO....

[bchand]

Actually, Casey pointed to a picure of her and said "that's not her." And then she looked at pictures of every other Zenaida Gonzalez in the DAVID system and said "it's not them."



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf
Page 18 of 432

I'm so glad you posted that about the pictures of ALL the Zenaida Gonzalez' in the DAVID system. Earlier today, people were posting that all the pictures shown to Casey were the same Zenaida.

[DeeN]

This situation with Casey, Cindy and George.

Is Sick beyond my belief.

I do not think that Caylee is alive.

I do think that Casey killed her by accident-while she was out partying.

All of the pictures of Casey parting- do not show Caylee. Where was Caylee?

I suggest..That Cayle, was in the trunk of Casey's car. Drugged.

[bluwaters]

OK. I didn't hear the Fernandez part until she went on that rant about they weren't looking outside Orlando.

Remember too - don't be an idiot :punch: and forget the hyphen.
It's ZF-G. In NC and NY data bases.

[dtviewer]

The name on the form filled out regarding the lawsuit lists her name as "Zenida Fernandez-Gonzales". JMO

If thats true than it really blows what I thought I knew about ZFG out of the water.
The guest card was just filled out as ZG. So if it was filled out as ZG, and her full name is ZFG, then that would be too much coincidence that Casey pulled that name out of thin air.

[kakax]

I can't believe that Baez hasn't told her to not get on the internet while at home or at least if she is on there not to post about anything.

Is he a newbie? :rolleyes:

You think it is really her? I can't imagine her posting things that she has posted. The NG stuff doesn't bother me. It's the bipolar comment and how that guy didn't want rejection.

If it is, she is really going to hang herself. Keep talking girl!!

[msjoni]

I think people of even just average intelligence can still have a devious mind.

I agree, I think Casey is a conniver.

[babblefishie]

This situation with Casey, Cindy and George.

Is Sick beyond my belief.

I do not think that Caylee is alive.

I do think that Casey killed her by accident-while she was out partying.

All of the pictures of Casey parting- do not show Caylee. Where was Caylee?

I suggest..That Cayle, was in the trunk of Casey's car. Drugged.

ITA 100 percent. The only thing I'm not sure of is whether she was starting to consider just going that extra mile and getting rid of her... IMO she WAS doing just what you stated and if that's the case it was already getting so easy to just shove her in cars and have her out of her hair... what if she were gone altogether... That is where I waffle.

[dtviewer]

OK. I didn't hear the Fernandez part until she went on that rant about they weren't looking outside Orlando.

I believe she said the full ZFG on the phone on the third 911 call.

[kakax]

:eek: ..that wouldn't surprise me one bit. I wonder if Cindy lied to the FBI like she lied to the OCSO?!


I wonder the same thing. I wish NG had touched on this tonight...get the real skinny on it.

[babblefishie]

If thats true than it really blows what I thought I knew about ZFG out of the water.
The guest card was just filled out as ZG. So if it was filled out as ZG, and her full name is ZFG, then that would be too much coincidence that Casey pulled that name out of thin air.

She would know it's ZFG if she rooted around in Z's car while Z was looking at apartment and grabbed some piece of documentation out of glove box. Isn't Sawgrass close to one of Casey's "paramour's" ?....

[day2day]

Originally Posted by babblefishie
Even if you DID advise Casey to avoid the internet, she wouldn't listen. Both Cindy and Casey find it impossible not to interact with the media in some way, shape or form. Even though it always makes it worse. I'm glad Casey is on blabbing away... She doesn't KNOW how to portray normal human spectrum of emotions. She always gets it wrong and every keystroke she does is evidence. Miss Anthony better get ready for scary prison version of the hot body contest MO....

they aren't too fond of baby killers in prison. jmo

[Pruddennce]

thru retrieved IM's, Casey mentions ZANI to Anthony Rusciano in May....(IM name nyitaliano)

from the docs released:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/02%20IM%20History%20Casey%20&%20NYItaliano.pdf

pretty interesting read, if you can stand the content matter and her usual lies.....hasnt had a day off in 10 days....ummm, 'her work schedule was changing, would be more flexible'....ummm....this is May 08.

she also states she was going to be free 12 out of 15 days because her parents were taking caylee on vacation.....while SHE was on vacation....

- she was also buying a house and gives the location to him

gawd. one thing for sure, she is consistent.

best regards,
Pru

[kakax]

I'm really not sure if it is her but after Jesse I believe, said that she had her whole life on Facebook and MySpace and it was her life. I would find it difficult to imagine her abruptly stopping posting and just sitting in that house 24/7 with nothing to do and possible tension in the home. It was stated by Padilla and Tim Miller i believe that Casey was in her room and on the internet when they were there? Do i have the names wrong? If so sorry. I can't remember who all said what without reviweing the information.


Put in that light, it isn't so hard to see her trying to make contact with people. Keep on talking Casey!!!
A poster on here claimed he was talking in IM with her. He wouldn't be more specific.
He said it was at 2 am last night.

[margaret kep]

Margaret, I recently saw that video on you tube I believe, and the GGF is singing very softly to her at that time he is holding her. He is singing You Are My Sunshine. Makes me want to cry every time I see it.

I have often wondered if that ws the last kiss from anyone that Caylee ever received from her GGF.

I didn't have audio on so I didn't hear ggf singing to her. I don't think I would be able to hear the song. You know what I mean. All I kept thinking when I saw how she hugged him I thought the little angel went to heaven with love and a KISS. Angels saw to that.:rose:

[kakax]

Again I ask... does anyone know when Mark NeJame is going to start his campaign to 'fix' the public's perception of Cindy & George?

Has it happened already & I missed it?

Did you see the post that showed the amounts in the trust account and Lee's Paypal?

It's a few pages back.

[?noanswer]

I have never read anything that states the REAL Z's middle name is Fernandez. The real Z recently got married and is now Zenaida Rosado


http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=8bd124c9-36f8-43a9-8f5b-2583b7e6ff71&CaseID=6054162

Subject ID Full Name Party Type Status
D-A CASEY ANTHONY DEFENDANT
P-A ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ PLAINTIFF
P-A JOHN BRYAN MORGAN ATTORNEY

[barskin&co.]

Thanks, Bar... I don't get the lawsuit. Casey said A ZFG not THAT ZFG.:shrug:

Nah, I don't think the lawsuit has merit, but I don't mind the fact that it forces Team Casey to clarify what Z F-G she was talking about. And I wish it would stop certain posters from making allegations about this Zenaida Gonzalez.

[mosey2]

thru retrieved IM's, Casey mentions ZANI to Anthony Rusciano in May....(IM name nyitaliano)

from the docs released:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/02%20IM%20History%20Casey%20&%20NYItaliano.pdf

pretty interesting read, if you can stand the content matter and her usual lies.....hasnt had a day off in 10 days....ummm, 'her work schedule was changing, would be more flexible'....ummm....this is May 08.

she also states she was going to be free 12 out of 15 days because her parents were taking caylee on vacation.....while SHE was on vacation....

- she was also buying a house and gives the location to him

gawd. one thing for sure, she is consistent.

best regards,
Pru

nyitalian3 is Anthony Rusciano?? I thought it was Tony Lazaro!:shrug:

[barskin&co.]

Again I ask... does anyone know when Mark NeJame is going to start his campaign to 'fix' the public's perception of Cindy & George?

Has it happened already & I missed it?

Yeah, how's that working out for you, Mark?

[dtviewer]

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=8bd124c9-36f8-43a9-8f5b-2583b7e6ff71&CaseID=6054162

Subject ID Full Name Party Type Status
D-A CASEY ANTHONY DEFENDANT
P-A ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ PLAINTIFF
P-A JOHN BRYAN MORGAN ATTORNEY


Link doesnt work.

[mosey2]

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=8bd124c9-36f8-43a9-8f5b-2583b7e6ff71&CaseID=6054162

Subject ID Full Name Party Type Status
D-A CASEY ANTHONY DEFENDANT
P-A ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ PLAINTIFF
P-A JOHN BRYAN MORGAN ATTORNEYThe link isn't showing the info:shrug:

[desmom]

I dont think so.
She told her parents/LE about ZFG on July 15th.
The searches on the computer were July 16th.
I think the searches were done by the Anthony family trying to find ZFG because Casey told them that is who took Caylee.
I dont think Casey ever searched the name. Im also begining to believe the ZG that looked at Sawgrass was just a coincidence.

I agree.

Casey said she emailed Zanny several times and the emails always bounced back. Wouldn't this show up on her computer history somewhere?

[Cury-us Coyote]

I've heard several times that one of Casey's boyfriends lived across the street from the Sawgrass Apartments. If that's true, Casey could have gone over and glanced at the guestbook and saw ZG's name there. IMO

Reportedly there was no guest book at SawGrass. HG spoke Spanish with ZG and HG completed the AIMCO guest card (which was later keyed into the computerized system).
jmo

[mosey2]

Does anyone know if any of Casey's friends were in Jacksonville the week Caylee went missing???:shrug: TIA

[hamebone]

Does anyone know if Casey ever gave the sawgrass apartments as the place her nanny lived before July the 15th?

[kakax]

No. I didn't. Did NeJame finally release all the documentation pertaining to the trust fund?

Yes, hang on I'll see if I can find it.

[dtviewer]

The docs say March, Cnn has aired March, and then now tonight we have NG saying March. That's a big problem :(

I havent seen any doc that says March. The docs I saw all had July 16th.

[playnice]

The docs say March, Cnn has aired March, and then now tonight we have NG saying March. That's a big problem :(

NG was saying Mar about the missing person sites.:shrug:

[dtviewer]

Does anyone know if Casey ever gave the sawgrass apartments as the place her nanny lived before July the 15th?

Good question.

[dtviewer]

NG was saying Mar about the missing person sites.:shrug:

Thanks Play:seeya:

[barskin&co.]

Does anyone know if Casey ever gave the sawgrass apartments as the place her nanny lived before July the 15th?

IIRC, no. She never even used the name Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez before that date.

[?noanswer]

I didn't have audio on so I didn't hear ggf singing to her. I don't think I would be able to hear the song. You know what I mean. All I kept thinking when I saw how she hugged him I thought the little angel went to heaven with love and a KISS. Angels saw to that.:rose:


In the audio part, Cindy told her to give him a hug & kiss 2 times. Caylee didn't do it the first time, but did so on the second instruction. JMO

[mosey2]

The docs say March, Cnn has aired March, and then now tonight we have NG saying March. That's a big problem :(
The docs say March for Zenaida searches? I didnt see that. Do you know where? Thanks:)

[barskin&co.]

I agree.

Casey said she emailed Zanny several times and the emails always bounced back. Wouldn't this show up on her computer history somewhere?

Yep! And did they....? Just like the phone calls that there are no record of.

[kakax]

No. I didn't. Did NeJame finally release all the documentation pertaining to the trust fund?

From Bchand's earlier post....

About the same enthusiam that greeted the trust fund apparently. (Brought over from the earlier thread.)


http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/help

Trust Fund Information


The Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony Trust fund was set up to allow the concerned public a vehicle to contribute to finding missing 3 year old, Caylee. Sadly, several people have had their own agenda and ulterior motives by making horrible suggestions that there have been misrepresentations or misappropriations of funds with this account, which has caused others to question the account. Therefore, George and Cindy Anthony are voluntarily providing all of the Trust information and posting the documents online for the public to inspect. Hopefully this will resolve any questions and will put to ease the minds of those with concerns and refocus back on finding little Caylee.


They're claiming Lee's personal paypal acct has $187.84 in it.
It's quite illegible.

They don't show much in the new acct - 9/26 $1,763.53.



ETA there are more posts on this on page 5 of this thread...fine print says that the money can be used for funeral costs.

[bluwaters]

Nancy Grace, Sept 29
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOY_0t3AGuM

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ne3dedwJjE

[TxLady2]

I agree..ZANNY has NOTHING to do with the case.it was proven from the begiining ,obviously when CASEY told investigators that the picture of the ZENAIDA they were showing CASEY of ZENAIDA was NOT the one who watched Caylee.....furthermore ,she was not the same age and she has children ,which is in TOTAL contrast to what CASEY said about the ZANNY who supposedly was Caylees nanny.

I do not agree with posters speaking of Zenaidas appearance iether.....however ..I can not see a cause of action in defamation of this ZENAIDA who has a high powered Attorney and going to try and sue CASEY ....the cause of action is null as CASEY discounted this woman from the begining and CASEY can't be help liable because some cooks out there choose to write this ZENAIDA hate mail and prank calls . There has to be some INTENT and ZENAIDA can't prove intent ............As far as Zenaidas ulcer is concerned ,I'm sorry for her ulcer , but is it really and truly connected to this drama ...that remains to be seen .espohageal reflux ......GERD , same symptoms all can be aquired through high fat diets and stress too..........it could go on and on .....but this defamation suit IMO is a flop .........just won;t stand the test when the facts are disected...if the law works by the standards that have to be in place anyway ..........

I agree. LE cleared her name in the very beginning, and I doubt very much that she will win any lawsuit. The description Casey gave did not fit this woman, and Casey said she did not have any kids. And she drove a Ford Focus, right? LP said ZG has a Kia.

On another note... I recall Casey's story about ZG and her sister Sam taking Caylee in Jay Blanchard park. Then who is this Raquel that Cindy was mentioning in her interview? How many sisters does this ZG have? And have they asked her THEIR names?

[desmom]

Does anyone know if any of Casey's friends were in Jacksonville the week Caylee went missing???:shrug: TIA

Amy went to J'ville on June 13 to buy a car. Casey was supposed to go with her, but George had a "mini-stroke". Later in the day, Casey invited Amy to go to Fusion that night. jmo

[mosey2]

To my knowledge no they were not other than Amy was supposed to go there and pick up a car. I believe that was Jacksonville. :shrug: Amy on June 13th. OK, Thanks!

[kakax]

The docs say March for Zenaida searches? I didnt see that. Do you know where? Thanks:)



March for missing children's sites I thought.

[bchand]

Again I ask... does anyone know when Mark NeJame is going to start his campaign to 'fix' the public's perception of Cindy & George?

Has it happened already & I missed it?

Well, at the vigil last night George said he's through fighting with the protesters. He just said God bless them.

I guess neJame told him this would be a good way to turn around his image? (vs hammer in hand, threatening people)

[?noanswer]

Link doesnt work.


I think you have to go to the orange co. clerk site and do your own search. Choose name, then civil and type in anthony casey. I think you can get to it then. JMO

[dtviewer]

I agree. LE cleared her name in the very beginning, and I doubt very much that she will win any lawsuit. The description Casey gave did not fit this woman, and Casey said she did not have any kids. And she drove a Ford Focus, right? LP said ZG has a Kia.

On another note... I recall Casey's story about ZG and her sister Sam taking Caylee in Jay Blanchard park. Then who is this Raquel that Cindy was mentioning in her interview? How many sisters does this ZG have? And have they asked her THEIR names?


Raquel was Zannys' roomate according to Casey. None of the info about Raquel turned out to be true.....big suprise.

[mosey2]

Another Question. On the video of Cindys interview, did anyone see it actually end, where they have her swear that everything she's said was truth? The video I watched seemed to cut off....(It was the one in 4 parts, and the end of part 4 did not seen like the end of the interview at all.) :shrug:

[dtviewer]

I think you have to go to the orange co. clerk site and do your own search. Choose name, then civil and type in anthony casey. I think you can get to it then. JMO

That worked, thanks.
You are correct, it does list ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ.
I will wait for more though before I really believe that the fernandez is really her name.

[TxLady2]

dude on NG said some searches went clear back to May. He said it was all planned, then another guy on NG said no way could casey orchestrate this. :shrug:huh? One cancels the other one out.

I hope we have a poster that will attend this trial.

That dude was talking about the searches on the missing children websites, from the way I understood it. I could be wrong, but I don't think he was talking about the searching for ZFG.

[hamebone]

IIRC, no. She never even used the name Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez before that date.


So maybe she did use the real ZG in a way as a red herring.

I use to think it was just a coincidence, but if she never gave SG as the nannys residence to anyone. She must of used sawgrass just because she knew a ZFG had been there.

She knew ZG left her name on a card there.

how i dont know..

[mosey2]

No I believe that part of the interview is being withheld for the Murder charge or Grand Jury Endictment.Whew! OK thanks Lost. I thought I had gremlins:seeya:

[Pruddennce]

Yep! And did they....? Just like the phone calls that there are no record of.

yes, no phone calls.

ever.

best regards,
Pru

[playnice]

What happens if you are subpoenaed to go to testify and you dont show up? Fine? Jail time?

[mosey2]

That worked, thanks.
You are correct, it does list ZENAIDA FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ.
I will wait for more though before I really believe that the fernandez is really her name.

If it turns out to be true, then the theory about Casey rooting around in Z's car are probably right. I wonder if they'll dust for prints at this late date?

[hamebone]

What happens if you are subpoenaed to go to testify and you dont show up? Fine? Jail time?


They will put a warrant out for your arrest.

[bchand]

Ummm... http://helpfindcaylee.com/help brings me to Usual Beings social networking site. :shrug:

But kakax's reposting of bchand's post tell's me everything of interest. :)


Odd that site keeps going in and out today. Looks like they're aren't many gullible people around eager to throw their money at G & C.

Not much money involved (that we can see anyway).

[mosey2]

Does any one else think that the missing children sites that where looked up could have been Casey looking up about Trenton and his demise?

Trying to see how she could get rid of Caylee without all the complications that Melony had.

JMO of course, an idea I'm throwing around.That's EXACTLY what it means, and it leads to premeditation.

[impartial]

The problem that I have with the cell phone info from Cindy's phone, is that there was contact with missing person sites in 2007. I could not figure that out; if the phone date wasnt set, but it had to be correct because they used that program and downloaded the info straight off her phone. Why was Cindy contacting missing child organizations in 2007? The documents I read clearly stated 2007. So I sat there days ago trying to figure out; no it was typed in wrong, it was filled out wrong.
Does anyone here think that cindy and casey could have cooked up a scheme together, for millions of dollars? After watching other cases in the recent news? I cant seperate the two; all I know is they are both lying. Is Cindy A just lying about helping her daughter cover her tracks or was she watching caylee like she always was? Did Casey attempt to take the hit for her mother? Does anyone really believe that Casey left that house with that child and didnt bring her back?
Im still struggling with that, I dont believe she ever really left like they say she did. Had they known for one night Caylee didnt have her bags, her clothing her toys or her backpacks and little shoes, they would have called the police.Wouldnt they have? Their story does NOT add up for me, esp when people can place Casey driving around in Cindy's car.
Cahoots. They are in Cahoots, I just dont know who is at fault. I think it may be Cindy. I've always thought that. Casey A didnt have Caylee much. Cindy did. The Story that Cindy gave in her interview is a lie, I am not certain that it was only Casey's lie, about the "accident" racquel, the cars, and Zanny.
Every single time Cindy says the word Zanny, an alarm goes off in me; she is lying. She's never heard the name before.
I'll quote her again: There is something wrong. My 2c

Dots


I don't know if they're in cahoots ... the part about Casey leaving with Caylee on the 16th with a backpack; Cindy told someone (Brittany?, although, I'm not so sure about her either) that Casey didn't take any of Caylee's clothes with her ... not adding up. What was Caylee wearing for a month in Cindy's mind.

Casey's demeanor ... I have always had a feeling her attitude was borne more of a flipping her mother off type of thing than a sociopath ... sociopath's do care about their own predicament, and Casey didn't seem to give a hoot that she was in jail; and doesn't seemed too concerned about the impending charges she will face. Bizarre.



IMO

[barskin&co.]

On 7/23/07 she told Mark Hawkins "seriously, you're one of the sweetest guys I ever met." (pg. 393 of 446).
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-case-discovery-documents-2batch,0,2787194.htmlpage

Apparently a pet phrase. In William Waters interview he showed them a text message from Casey which said the same thing (almost exactly a year later)
(page 188 of 317)
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

[hamebone]

when you use EZ pass do you get a bill in the mail?

How does that work?

[kakax]

I'm kind of disappointed with tonight light shown on the truth. It wasn't anything we didn't know. I was hoping for a bombshell. Maybe tomorrow!

The biggest developments of today I think are the comments from Sheriff Beary saying that they are working with prosecutors. Saying this was the hardest cast he had been involved in in 16 years didn't give me alot of confidence.

So...trudging on..hoping for justice!

[aubrey04]

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CivilSelect.aspx?SessionID=747a4da5-d905-4de1-b915-efa4296cf39d

ETA-- oops..

Go to that website and type in Casey Anthony.. That is the direct link to the civil court division of that county courthouse.

[kakax]

when you use EZ pass do you get a bill in the mail?

How does that work?

Yes. It has all your hits on the toll roads you went through.

[Pruddennce]

when you use EZ pass do you get a bill in the mail?

How does that work?

it can be done online, load money on the pass and there is an invoice listing the toll dates and locations. (times too I believe)

best regards,
Pru

[kakax]

Gah,
I do. Pretty much started to think that after I saw the cell phone records.


I never saw Cindy's full cellphone statements with that call in 2007. Is it in the same place as the others?

[dtviewer]

--snipped---
The biggest developments of today I think are the comments from Sheriff Beary saying that they are working with prosecutors. Saying this was the hardest cast he had been involved in in 16 years didn't give me alot of confidence.

So...trudging on..hoping for justice!


Hey Kakax. Did he say this was the hardest case because it is difficult or did he mean the hardest case because it involved a 3 year old?

Thanks

[Pruddennce]

Either GA or CA lied about that information. You take your pick.
Cindy claims nothing of Caylee's was taken and all her clothes were left there. GA claims he saw Caylee and Casey leave with backpacks etc. In great detail.
Would it not shock you if LE found the backpack GA describes Caylee wearing that day when they conducted their search of the home?

Think about that for a minute.


CA and GA are not on the same page as far as details. thats been proven. either is Lee A. all of them in a different orbit.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[aubrey04]

I want to say that I am still undecided on whether I think Zenaida made the right decision filing a lawsuit against Casey..

One thing I do know.. I would HATE to have the name Zenaida Ferendez-Gonzalez and live in Orlando, Florida. People have been looking all sorts of personal information on that woman who did NOT ask to be thrown in the spotlight. Some people (even on this website) have still cast her in a sinister light - even though it has been said by LE that this woman had NOTHING to do with Caylee's disappearance.

It would SUCK (for lack of a better word) to have the name ZFG, IMO.

[hamebone]

Yes. It has all your hits on the toll roads you went through.

Okay thanks!

[kakax]

Hey Kakax. Did he say this was the hardest case because it is difficult or did he mean the hardest case because it involved a 3 year old?

Thanks

Let me go get his statement. I took it to mean that it was unusual and unique and complex.

[101Spots]

Again I ask... does anyone know when Mark NeJame is going to start his campaign to 'fix' the public's perception of Cindy & George?

Has it happened already & I missed it?

You must have missed it. They called it "Missions Impossible." Coming soon to a theater near you.

[dtviewer]

I Have went trhough many tolls before but I never had the need for an EZ pass. I can't answer how that works. I think there is an ID or account number for each person that uses it. You pay so much per year so you don't have to pay each time you pass through it. I'm not sure.

Actually you just purchase the unit and you keep a balance on it and it subtracts the toll fee everytime you go through a toll. You can pay by phone, by mail or online.
I usually keep about $10 on mine but I really dont go through tolls too often.

[bluwaters]

Richard Grund's new MySpace blog entry:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=437141308

The one thing I wanted to say...the most important thing I wanted to say is this....

THERE IS ONLY ONE VICTIM IN THIS ENTIRE CASE.

ONE VICTIM WHO HAS HAD NO VOICE AND NO CHOICE.

ONE VICTIM WHO HAS BEEN OVERLOOKED AND FORGOTTEN.

CAYLEE....SHE IS THE ONLY VICTIM.

Just a little bit of Richard's post...

[impartial]

I want to say that I am still undecided on whether I think Zenaida made the right decision filing a lawsuit against Casey..

One thing I do know.. I would HATE to have the name Zenaida Ferendez-Gonzalez and live in Orlando, Florida. People have been looking all sorts of personal information on that woman who did NOT ask to be thrown in the spotlight. Some people (even on this website) have still cast her in a sinister light - even though it has been said by LE that this woman had NOTHING to do with Caylee's disappearance.

It would SUCK (for lack of a better word) to have the name ZFG, IMO.


The same can be said for Tony Lazzaro, Ricardo Morales, Dante, Jesse, et al. People have been looking for all of their personal information as well.

IMO

[kakax]

Let me go get his statement. I took it to mean that it was unusual and unique and complex.



"You might say it's a challenge," said Beary, referring to the investigation's complexity.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-092908,0,830360.story

Sheriff Beary says they are waiting for a few pieces of evidence to come back from the FBI. He says that just doesn't happen over night. He also said they are being so careful right now because they are afraid to make a mistake since detectives may someday have to work a homicide case without a body.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7538603&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1


"It's a very sensitive case and it always is tough and if you end up going down that path of working a homicide case without a body, it’s even tougher," Beary said.
Beary said this is one of the most difficult cases he's faced in his 16 years as sheriff. He said his team wants to get it right the first time.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html

I saw unusual and complex in some article. Can't find it now of course.

[Pruddennce]

I Have went trhough many tolls before but I never had the need for an EZ pass. I can't answer how that works. I think there is an ID or account number for each person that uses it. You pay so much per year so you don't have to pay each time you pass through it. I'm not sure.

we load ours as the need arises. on any given day we can go online and check the balance and add money to it. it is registered fo two cars. legally, you cannot use it for someone else's car.

but I think you can only get caught if its out of money and you blow thru the toll unpaid.....it captures the license.

IIRC....as that is something I heard happens.

best regards,
Pru

[barskin&co.]

Imp that is such a brilliant point. TY. Yes, and even George said they both had their backpacks, he volunteered that right up...no one asked.
They had to have known that Caylee did NOT have her things. They had to have known.

And yes, she read in jail. I thought she was just pretty pissed off that her plan didnt work, and she was "arrested on a whim" (pouts)

Still, I have huge issue with her comments, Not my Fault, that has bothered me since day one; I swore she meant to Cindy, it was hers.

I dont know Imp but I dont sleep well. No one wants grandparents in jail, you know? It would be a horrible thing, but I only feel better when I think of them all in orange at this point.

What about Caylee, where is Caylee, why didnt LE search their house inside? What the heck is wrong with this dept, that no warrant for the inside of that garage basement attic crawlspace. this family was NEVER removed for a few days from their household. She could be anywhere.
But I think she is there; Close, in a bin.

:rose:

Cindy asked her about who's fault it was she was in jail. Casey doesn't think it's her fault, because it wasn't her idea to call the police. If it were up to her, she wouldn't have called.

Casey, don't waste your call screaming and hollering at me," Cindy Anthony said.

"Waste my call sitting in the jail?" Casey Anthony said.

"Whose fault is it you're sitting in jail?" Cindy Anthony said. "Are you blaming me you are sitting in the jail? Blame yourself for telling lies. What do you mean it is not your fault? What do you mean it's not your fault, sweetheart? If you would have told them the truth and not lied about everything…"

"Do me a favor and just tell me what Tony's number is," Casey Anthony said. "I don't want to talk to you. Forget it."
http://www.local6.com/news/16993169/detail.html

That's what that whole "not my fault" business was about. They were never discussing who was responsible for what happened to Caylee. Of course, Cindy soon changed her tune about why she was in jail, and held it against LE.

The police did search the house, and they had the cadaver dogs searching all over the grounds.

[hamebone]

CA and GA are not on the same page as far as details. thats been proven. either is Lee A. all of them in a different orbit.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

and you would think for the sake of Caylee, once they would came together, with a common goal... to find the truth.

[dtviewer]

A Unit? Please explain. I did not know about this.

Its a little electronic box about 4 inches x 3 inches x 1 inch that sticks to your windshield and registers when you go through a toll.
It even lets you know when your balance is low.

(Just ask Melanie McGuire:eek:)

[bluwaters]

The same can be said for Tony Lazzaro, Ricardo Morales, Dante, Jesse, et al. People have been looking for all of their personal information as well.

IMO
Casey actually does have a relationship of sorts with all of those people.
ZFG is a stranger to Casey.
ZFG is the only one that Casey accused of kidnapping Caylee.

[aubrey04]

Richard Grund's new MySpace blog entry:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=437141308



Just a little bit of Richard's post...

I think he is a bizarre fellow - I am not going to lie, but he did very well tonight. I wonder what else he wanted to say.. that he didn't get a chance to say?

Regardless, he should be proud that he was able to reinterate that Jesse took a lie detector test given by the FBI and he passed.. which is more than Cindy and Casey (and George) can say for themselves.

Richard Grund did well for his son, IMO.

[dtviewer]

"You might say it's a challenge," said Beary, referring to the investigation's complexity.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-092908,0,830360.story

Sheriff Beary says they are waiting for a few pieces of evidence to come back from the FBI. He says that just doesn't happen over night. He also said they are being so careful right now because they are afraid to make a mistake since detectives may someday have to work a homicide case without a body.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7538603&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1



"It's a very sensitive case and it always is tough and if you end up going down that path of working a homicide case without a body, it’s even tougher," Beary said.
Beary said this is one of the most difficult cases he's faced in his 16 years as sheriff. He said his team wants to get it right the first time.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html

I saw unusual and complex in some article. Can't find it now of course.




Thanks Kakax...I'll look through those.

[barskin&co.]

Casey actually does have a relationship of sorts with all of those people.
ZFG is a stranger to Casey.
ZFG is the only one that Casey accused of kidnapping Caylee.

Yes, ZFG is the only one Casey accused. Now, Cindy is another matter...

[summer4meplz]

Imp that is such a brilliant point. TY. Yes, and even George said they both had their backpacks, he volunteered that right up...no one asked.
They had to have known that Caylee did NOT have her things. They had to have known.

And yes, she read in jail. I thought she was just pretty pissed off that her plan didnt work, and she was "arrested on a whim" (pouts)

Still, I have huge issue with her comments, Not my Fault, that has bothered me since day one; I swore she meant to Cindy, it was hers.

I dont know Imp but I dont sleep well. No one wants grandparents in jail, you know? It would be a horrible thing, but I only feel better when I think of them all in orange at this point.

What about Caylee, where is Caylee, why didnt LE search their house inside? What the heck is wrong with this dept, that no warrant for the inside of that garage basement attic crawlspace. this family was NEVER removed for a few days from their household. She could be anywhere.
But I think she is there; Close, in a bin.

:rose:



I think the "not my fault" from casey to cindy is probably nothing more than casey saying....you knew i was an unfit mother....it's your fault i couldn't take care of her....imo

[impartial]

Didn't have to look too far. NONE of the phone numbers addresses and on some occasions even SS numbers were not blacked out on the first doc dump.

What's up with that anyway.

[bluwaters]

I may not agree with his religious beliefs or practices and that is all fine and well, but the man speaks the truth. Something this case has gone without for too long.

I agree. RG is certainly within his rights to put his religious beliefs front and center on his own MySpace page. I notice that he is very mild about his beliefs when he is on the air. He is not shoving them down anyone's throat.
RG does not have an agenda, beyond clearing his son's name and speaking up for Caylee. Sadly, Caylee's own family are not willing to put her at the top if their priorities.

[beckyj]

The same can be said for Tony Lazzaro, Ricardo Morales, Dante, Jesse, et al. People have been looking for all of their personal information as well.

IMO

True, but those people at least made a conscious decision to acquaint themselves with Casey. Of course, they obviously didn't know what they were getting into though. ZFG didn't know a thing about her.

I'm glad she filed suit if for no other reason than to make a point and/or to see that any money they might collect for their story goes somewhere else. JMO of course.

[impartial]

I truly believe she was bzy looking for a meal ticket, out of her parents house. and that's all. Didnt sound to me like she was even very exp with men. She's a user, from what I've read. For a guy to say "I felt like the girl" not once but twice in a LE interview, well. Who would want to admit that?
Clearly, she has issues. She was more happy it was going to be just "the girls" and I still cannot figure out; where was this to take place?
Was she really going to kill her parents? OR are the rumors that she floated about her parents relationship, a little true. Maybe Cindy really was looking for another home. Maybe the financial issue is a REAL huge issue, and maybe they perpetuated a scam, for millions.
Not too far fetched when you look at their finances. I have a huge problem with the financial situation, in this case. Dats just me tho!
Dots


Casey went through men like yesterday's shoes.

IMO

[dtviewer]

Oh That's the thing Ckrdpast was saying she didn't have when we went through the tolls to get to the command center then? I thought she was calling it something different. A sun something?


:eek: OOPS

Yep! A SunPass.

[aubrey04]

The same can be said for Tony Lazzaro, Ricardo Morales, Dante, Jesse, et al. People have been looking for all of their personal information as well.

IMO

Right and I see them as victims, as well.. But Casey specifically named this woman as a kidnapper and dangerous person... someone who participated in CRIMINAL acts. Only after police tracked down the ZFG who went to the Sawgrass Apartments and found that she was NOT involved in this at all.. Casey backtracked and said it was the wrong ZFG.

Like I said, I am not saying I think she should sue.. just that it must be terrible that her name has been associated with a false kidnap/child endangerment debacle.

[Pruddennce]

Oh That's the thing Ckrdpast was saying she didn't have when we went through the tolls to get to the command center then? I thought she was calling it something different. A sun something?


:eek: OOPS

in florida they call it a sun pass.

best regards,
Pru

[beetlebrow]

I just found something interesting

Are we allowed to post MySpace links???

[msjoni]

I may not agree with his religious beliefs or practices and that is all fine and well, but the man speaks the truth. Something this case has gone without for too long.

I agree, he seems like a decent man.

[Howiefan]

Jesse's father's blog is updated

[101Spots]

I think the "not my fault" from casey to cindy is probably nothing more than casey saying....you knew i was an unfit mother....it's your fault i couldn't take care of her....imo

**Nothing** is Casey's fault. Haven't you caught onto that? Ditto Cindy.

It's LE's fault, Jesse's fault, ZFhyphenG's fault, Samantha's fault, Amy's fault, TonE's fault, Goofy's fault, Marie Antoinette's fault, Nero's fault, Abe Lincoln's fault, GW Bush's fault, etc, etc, etc.

It's not Casey's fault, nor is it Cindy's fault.

In fact, it's probably *your* fault.

J/K on the your fault bit.

[barskin&co.]

And it's Cindy's fault because Cindy is the one who told the police that Caylee is missing.

That is the only thing they were talking about. Casey thought she was in arrested on "an <expletive> whim." They were not ever discussing what happened to Caylee or whose fault that was. They were only talking about why she was physically in jail, and Casey believed it was Cindy's fault for calling the police.

[aubrey04]

Yeah I about hit my head on the table when I heard the words EZ Pass.
EGADS. Wonder if they were stupid enough to try to call in like Mel did to change any of the tolls (LOL)

Oh lawd.. What a dumb-dumb move on Mel's part..ugh. hammer

[summer4meplz]

I just found something interesting

Are we allowed to post MySpace links???

you must be able to, that's how i got richard grund's link

[beckyj]

I wonder if Jesse and Amy will file suit against the A's now in light of the accusations Cindy made in her now public police interview?

[Joan Weiss]

That's a great site. I didnt bookmark the nanny ZFG, she's online, you can all find her I just remember her site was lavender. And she had tons of experience. She was probably everything Casey Anthony desired in a "nanny"

Maybe she was a fan of nanny 911. For the most part, people in mainstream society refer to their kids sitters as sitters. Not "nanny" as to most of us; "nanny" meant live in. It used to mean, "live in" provider, it was what distinguished from a regular sitter. I wonder what in Casey A's mind made her think she deserved a "nanny"? She does have a huge sense of entitlement it seems to me.

Nothing new on NG tonight. No bombshells, and less attention on the facts of this case, iow No New News. LE is building their case. I wonder how many years her mother will face? I wonder if they are now concentrating on 1st degree murder? After finding the searches and the txts and the missing child I think I'd go for 1st degree at this point.
Finally my theory has changed. I really wanted to believe in a drowning or an accident because I want the easy softer way always. Who doesnt, who wants to be right that Casey is a monster, just like Yuri said from the get go? She is either a person who made a mistake, or she is a monster. We are getting really close to the needle tipping overload to monster at this point. :shrug:Well, if anyone know monsters, Yuri does.

[Rayosunshine]

What happens if you are subpoenaed to go to testify and you dont show up? Fine? Jail time?

Bench warrant

[barskin&co.]

**Nothing** is Casey's fault. Haven't you caught onto that? Ditto Cindy.

It's LE's fault, Jesse's fault, ZFhyphenG's fault, Samantha's fault, Amy's fault, TonE's fault, Goofy's fault, Marie Antoinette's fault, Nero's fault, Abe Lincoln's fault, GW Bush's fault, etc, etc, etc.

It's not Casey's fault, nor is it Cindy's fault.

In fact, it's probably *your* fault.

J/K on the your fault bit.

Thanks. I have been trying to get that across, to no avail.

[beetlebrow]

I was looking thru the "friends" on the My Space for Dancers Royale and I found this......

Note date last post 9-29

I've not seen this picture before....

Mood: Guilty???

Is this for real???
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=413692940

It is private so I cannot access the inside stuff.....

[Kathlb]

Thanks !!!

Now I'm curious, wonder who Sammy really is ... not necessary in the real sense, but in the pm sense.

:seeya:


He hangs with Zanny the nanny and they work at Universal and hang out in Blanchard Park on their lunch breaks. They've also been known to sit on the stairwell at the Sawgrass apts. and talk about Club Fusion's Friday night contests and I think they're planning a trip to Bush Gardens. :tongue: And now as my Dad would say to me many moons ago and I'm saying to myself now..."You're getting silly, go to bed!"

[101Spots]

Thanks. I have been trying to get that across, to no avail.

I try, but no guarantees.:D

[barskin&co.]

I was looking thru the "friends" on the My Space for Dancers Royale and I found this......

Note date last post 9-29

I've not seen this picture before....

Mood: Guilty???

Is this for real???
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=413692940

It is private so I cannot access the inside stuff.....

Is this for real? I think its's a joke.

[beckyj]

I have a friend whose daughter is a druggie. She has a couple of kids out of wedlock and she dumps them on her parents all the time. She is arrested a couple times a year. (Yes great system we have where you can get arrested twice a year for drugs and not do time). But the mother constantly blames other people. It's really sickening actually. Every time the girl gets a new boyfriend it's his fault she's doing drugs, etc. It's Cindy Anthony made over. I think they call it an "enabler".

[aubrey04]

I wonder if Jesse and Amy will file suit against the A's now in light of the accusations Cindy made in her now public police interview?

I don't know but that was beyond rotten of Cindy to say. She knows the habitual, sociopath daughter of hers is the cause of this and she's throwing Jesse and Amy under the bus. There is no foundation to her claims either.

Even as Yuri kept saying over and over that he knew for a fact Jesse was NOT involved, Cindy still kept pressing it.

That woman is unreal. :no:

[bluwaters]

Nancy Grace, Sept 29
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqJpmCa3Bc

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTTdY5zyJ4I

[barskin&co.]

He hangs with Zanny the nanny and they work at Universal and hang out in Blanchard Park on their lunch breaks. They've also been known to sit on the stairwell at the Sawgrass apts. and talk about Club Fusion's Friday night contests and I think they're planning a trip to Bush Gardens. :tongue:

It's all so obvious when you finally see it in black and white!

[beckyj]

I don't know but that was beyond rotten of Cindy to say. She knows the habitual, sociopath daughter of hers is the cause of this and she's throwing Jesse and Amy under the bus. There is no foundation to her claims either.

Even as Yuri kept saying over and over that he knew for a fact Jesse was NOT involved, Cindy still kept pressing it.

That woman is unreal. :no:

I guess he had already taken the lie detector and she didn't know it. I think that's hilarious. But what she's saying about them, especially Jesse, is inexcusable.

[barskin&co.]

I have a friend whose daughter is a druggie. She has a couple of kids out of wedlock and she dumps them on her parents all the time. She is arrested a couple times a year. (Yes great system we have where you can get arrested twice a year for drugs and not do time). But the mother constantly blames other people. It's really sickening actually. Every time the girl gets a new boyfriend it's his fault she's doing drugs, etc. It's Cindy Anthony made over. I think they call it an "enabler".

Yeah, that's what they call it.

[Rayosunshine]

I was looking thru the "friends" on the My Space for Dancers Royale and I found this......

Note date last post 9-29

I've not seen this picture before....

Mood: Guilty???

Is this for real???
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=413692940

It is private so I cannot access the inside stuff.....

Not a clue. What would [[C.H., Inc.]] stand for?

[Rayosunshine]

Can anyone remember whose interview mentioned a group going to Club Voyage? Trying to find a date.

Thanks

[beckyj]

I hope everyone that is able to do that in this case goes for it. Even if they do not gain anything from it. I believe it will teach people not to throw around names and accusations without proof of what they spew and spew as fact and NOT an opinion.

I agree. But somehow Cindy will become the victim!

[Joan Weiss]

I wouldn't be surprised if Cindy now thinks Nancy Grace has Caylee:eek:I'll bet NG is on her hit list for sure.

imo

[Velouria]

:seeya: Ido, I do!!

'Daddysgirl' made an unfounded, false post trying to insinuate something sinister about Mr Grund. <respectfully snipped>

Thank you for the synopsis dtviewer. I'm glad I missed it, because it sounds like nothing more than unfounded BS from the usual suspect(s). :rolleyes:

[dtviewer]

Thank you for the synopsis dtviewer. I'm glad I missed it, because it sounds like nothing more than unfounded BS from the usual suspect(s). :rolleyes:

same ol', same ol'

[dixie77]

Not a clue. What would [[C.H., Inc.]] stand for?
=============

Hi Isabelle check your PMs

[Joan Weiss]

Wow. You are back I wondered where you ran off to?

Yes if anyone knows anything Yuri does.I wanted to watch "In the heat of the night," with Sidney Poitier and Rod Steiger. It was fantastic. :cool:

Thanks for missing me, that was nice.

[luvinlife]

So before Sawgrass she was Zenaida? After Sawgrass Zenaida Gonzales? And after a web search on July 16th Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales of New York and Puerto Rico?


but didn't she say Zenaida Fernandez -Gonzales on the 911 call and that was the 15th of July.

[dtviewer]

but didn't she say Zenaida Fernandez -Gonzales on the 911 call and that was the 15th of July.

Yes she did.

[Joan Weiss]

Hi Witchy...Sounds like a possibility.....Because it was same area and remains unsolved.

It just always amazes me in these cases when there are instances to point to premeditation like with Scott yet they makes so many really stupid mistakes.......like Scots anchors......Casey`s trunk.........They just assume people will believe them......You can say that again. They fantasize the whole crime, but they never fantasize getting caught.

I think that's because they work alone, and don't have feedback on what's believable.

It's kind of like what we do here, all the different minds seeing things from different angles. They don't have that. imo

[5boxersmom]

Just got back. Had to babysit the grandson.:) Missed NG. Did RG make any kind of statement?


TIA

[101Spots]

The use of the word "missing" in that context was probably just melodrama on Cindy's part.

Are you suggesting that....... <gasp> ...... Cindy is a drama queen????

Who'da thunk it?

[Joan Weiss]

[QUOTE=beckyj;12208379]I have a friend whose daughter is a druggie. She has a couple of kids out of wedlock and she dumps them on her parents all the time. She is arrested a couple times a year. (Yes great system we have where you can get arrested twice a year for drugs and not do time).
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QUOTE]


A better approach to prison might be greater accesibility to a drug treatment facilty.

imoHer kids are the reason she doesn't do time, imo. Imagine leaving kids with a drug addict. Does that make sense? I think not. :cuss:

[Velouria]

[QUOTE=beckyj;12208379]I have a friend whose daughter is a druggie. She has a couple of kids out of wedlock and she dumps them on her parents all the time. She is arrested a couple times a year. (Yes great system we have where you can get arrested twice a year for drugs and not do time).
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QUOTE]


A better approach to prison might be greater accesibility to a drug treatment facilty.

imo

Aren't you assuming this girl has never been court-ordered into rehab?

[Joan Weiss]

Hey ray Im sorry I am drawing a total blank on which one said it? Or if it was part of Casey's attempt to draw people into clubs, like Fusion. She was txting everyone to "come out" all the time. It was actually, weird.
I guess she thought she was "working"...promoting clubs. Actually that is what she was trying to do. Maybe she thought
SHE WAS PUNKIN PIE!!
(slaps self)
OMGThat was funny, jenny. :D

[beckyj]

[QUOTE=beckyj;12208379]I have a friend whose daughter is a druggie. She has a couple of kids out of wedlock and she dumps them on her parents all the time. She is arrested a couple times a year. (Yes great system we have where you can get arrested twice a year for drugs and not do time).
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QUOTE]


A better approach to prison might be greater accesibility to a drug treatment facilty.

imo
I agree. Unfortunately she does that twice a year too.

[Rayosunshine]

Kinda off topic, but not really considering the bruising issue with Caylee.

My dd and gd are coming over this week-end. dd said gd fell off the couch bruised her cheek, then the puppy jumped up and hit my gd's lip.

My dd said that if anyone saw my gd that they would think the worst.

jmo

my gd came over with a booboo on her lower lip my dd said she fell out of bed. I thinking of keeping a journal.

[beckyj]

[QUOTE=?WudScoobyDo;12208456]

Aren't you assuming this girl has never been court-ordered into rehab?
She has been in court ordered rehab. Just doesn't work for her. I think there comes a time when they have to do time. Of course, that probably wouldn't work either. Sad really! But I feel like if her mother would stop supporting her she would stop it. JMO

[Velouria]

Maybe she thought
SHE WAS PUNKIN PIE!!
(slaps self)
OMG

:punch: Hey, I'll second that Dots. <just kidding! :tongue:>

Pass the brain bleach...

[Velouria]

[QUOTE=Velouria;12208472]
She has been in court ordered rehab. Just doesn't work for her. I think there comes a time when they have to do time. Of course, that probably wouldn't work either. Sad really! But I feel like if her mother would stop supporting her she would stop it. JMO


I had a feeling she had been, beckyj. That's usually the first thing the court does when someone is facing a drug charge. And you're right about it not always working, too - at least not on the first (or even second) try. Unfortunately, some addicts don't "bottom out" until they're faced with actual jail time.

[luvinlife]

Yes. I was reminded of that.



sorry I should know better than to post when I am behind in my reading. :seeya:

[luvinlife]

I'm sorry, luvinlife. I didn't mean to sound snippy. :seeya:



Oh you didn't lol, I just never know if I should post or keep reading, sometimes it has been answered a million times and sometimes hasn't been answered at all.


Do we have a list for the witnesses yet?

[Joan Weiss]

Yes and she did not either call Caseys "work"...........or try to find this Zaneida......by the time of the interview of Cindy she knew darn well there was no Zaneida and that Jesse and Amy were not involved....but what does she do she waste time and STALLS just like Casey......UNREAL!Good post. :eek:

[SaraSidle]

I just might go live in a cave. Unreal people, all around.

Me too on an island

[cherish]

On 6/19 Casey completed a leasing application at Cranes Landing Apts. It was never signed.

On 6/17 ZHG looked at Sawgrass Apts.

Could Casey have seen (or swiped) a lease application for ZG while she was at Cranes Landing Apts. I haven't leased an apartment in a long time but I suspect an application would include personal references like next of kin, type and color of vehicle, plate numbers.

Also, I think that there's more to the story of Anthony (Tony) Rusciano. (The cop who was fired, who appears to not like kids, and Casey's sex partner.)

Was Casey using him to run license plates and accident reports to back up her story?

I think that LE has a lot more unreleased information and is very close to a smoking gun.

Of course this is JMHO.

MOO

[beckyj]

thanks guys for letting me vent, and listening. Im going to try to go to sleep. I just will never understand how this family can sleep at night.
Or how they can eat. I dont know how they can eat a morsel. Caylee is not in her bed where she belongs. And Cindy knew that as of July 3.
Since she was her primary caretaker, Im holding her to task on this one.
She's hiding something, they all are.

Dots

(see you tomorrow, be well everyone)

:rose:
Kind of off topic, but.... This post reminds me of when someone in your family dies. In my case with my parents and grandparents and then my babies. The initial feeling the next morning is "How can the sun come up when ______ is gone?" That feeling takes a long time to go away. If your loved one is missing and you really don't know their whereabouts it seems like it would be a feeling that never goes away!

[luvinlife]

"Mommy won't Tell"

My space page

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=411393480

:read:


That is absolutely hearbreaking. :(




for Caylee:rose:

[barskin&co.]

OMG I saw the same movie it was HORRIBLE!!......Oh GAWD and the actors were so good. People like that lady just make me sick!! These woman like Susan Smith go to prison and then there are guards who will have sex with them or Diane Downs who escaped just to be caught in bed with some guy.........These women and there SEX....Fits right in here now doesn`t it?..

I saw that movie, too. God, that was horrific. Here is a backround of the crime from the TruTV Crime Library:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/likens/2.html

[luvinlife]

video of Zenaida

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/

:read:


I really feel bad for Zenaida, it is too bad this case has brought out the worst in some people.

Unfortunately I don't think she has much of a lawsuit against Casey, who knows I am no lawyer.

These people threating her and her kids are no better than Casey bringing her name into it in the first place. Do these people threating her really think that Casey is telling the truth, if they do, they must have missed the part where Casey said it wasn't her.MOO

[luvinlife]

I feel for her too.
And I applaud her going after Casey for using her name.
Whether she ever gets money or not.



I wonder if she has a case against her employer that fired her or any person who wouldn't hire her because of this.

[luvinlife]

That is a very good question. We may soon find out with this law suit going forward.



I think she could have a case against them and any person who may have left her a threatening or accusing myspace comment, email or phone call imo

[luvinlife]

...And there you have it. Personally, I would have let it die as opposed to filing suit.. but to each his own.

Speaking of bringing out the worst in people .. I sat on my bum all day posting. :punch: not good!



:lol:

I do that most days, getting a bit better now. I think that I need to take time away from here more often. It gets to be too much sometimes. I just can't wait for information, all I wait for everyday is that Caylee has been found.

[luvinlife]

Yes I know how she must feel I have a very long 3 syllable Sp name and a shorter more common Sp last name. All mt life I have known I better be careful with my rep because if my name gets out there everyone knows its me...... I would just hate if I thought people were thinking I was a kidnapper.....



My name is very similar to some, but I am the only one with my name. I would hate it as well.

I can't believe the nerve of those that continue to blame her and threaten her kids. WTH is wrong with people, does no one have self control anymore.:no:

[luvinlife]

I know LUVIN........it gets to feeling more like a job....one that will lead you to drinking....Can you just imagine how LE feels? When I get away from this it is like a weight off my shoulders...........This I come back and think OMG is this REALLY happening.....it just cannot be possible....


It is a nightmare, I can't imagine what it is like for those close to Caylee, Casey or the Anthony's.

I know Casey probably isn't bothered by it.

I have gotten so emotional at times I just have to leave the board for a while.

I know what you mean about the drinking. Thank goodness I haven't turned to that yet. I have a dirty house, laundry and my family hasn't had a really big meal in a while. I don't think I should drink or I really wouldn't get anything done.lol

[cherish]

You bring up some very good questions. I do think there is more to that guy getting fired over lying about having sex with Casey than what has been reported. Something wrong there.

Seriously, you can't be fired for having a relationship. Though you can be fired for lying. So what did he lie about? He must have been at the very least covering something up.

And, we keep hearing more and more about Casey's other acquaintances, yet we've heard nothing more about him except for the crude text message exchanges between him and Casey.

This makes me have to wonder why?

Again. this is JMHO.

[kaelieanne]

This guy is a fruit cake.. JMO

---------------
That's what a lot of people say about Christians. I think he's right on!

Annie

[enigma]

**Nothing** is Casey's fault. Haven't you caught onto that? Ditto Cindy.

It's LE's fault, Jesse's fault, ZFhyphenG's fault, Samantha's fault, Amy's fault, TonE's fault, Goofy's fault, Marie Antoinette's fault, Nero's fault, Abe Lincoln's fault, GW Bush's fault, etc, etc, etc.

It's not Casey's fault, nor is it Cindy's fault.

In fact, it's probably *your* fault.

J/K on the your fault bit.

:lol: Now why didn't I think of that? (the 'bolding' is mine)

O/T - I LOVE your sig!!

[kaelieanne]

I agree but I will admit that there were time when I referred to my boys as little rug rats but it was in jest.
================

I have called my son not-very-nice names in the past when he was little too. Not to his face, but when he was being a little poop I would sometimes say ignorant things to friends who understood that I LOVED him but was frustrated with the things he was doing.

I DO believe that Casey Anthony is guilty of killing Caylee, but just because she called her daughter a stupid name means nothing. Moms get frustrated. Single moms get even more frustrated. This is real life.

Anne

[ccnsd]

After looking at this page, I noticed in the description block that the recent photo is dating 5/31/08. Isn't it the same photo supposedly taken on the 6/15/08 Fathers day? Anyone notice that or is it just me?:confused:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

[ccnsd]

Hopefully there's only one starting as of now. So come on over:patriot:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=341776

[cherish]

After looking at this page, I noticed in the description block that the recent photo is dating 5/31/08. Isn't it the same photo supposedly taken on the 6/15/08 Fathers day? Anyone notice that or is it just me?:confused:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

Could you please reference a page number? This document has 432 pages.

I think I've heard before that Cindy had corrected her statement on the date of that photo, (I have no link).

It's interesting how Cindy points out inconsistencies in everyone else s statements, yet she won't account for her own.

Cindy has accused both Amy and Jesse, while being well aware of Casey's lie after lie. How in the world can anybody be that gullible?

The sad thing is, I really think that Cindy is almost as crazy as Casey.

But that's JMHO

[enigma]

================

I have called my son not-very-nice names in the past when he was little too. Not to his face, but when he was being a little poop I would sometimes say ignorant things to friends who understood that I LOVED him but was frustrated with the things he was doing.

I DO believe that Casey Anthony is guilty of killing Caylee, but just because she called her daughter a stupid name means nothing. Moms get frustrated. Single moms get even more frustrated. This is real life.

Anne

I've thought that myself, re calling Caylee a stupid name in frustration... I'm sure that's happened to many people in all sorts of situations.

BUT... in this case, taken in context with Casey looking up missing child websites in March, researching the use of choloroform, inventing a nanny, keeping mum about her daughter's "disappearance" until she was absolutely forced to go to LE about it, and spinning a web of lies.... this is not just a case of a frustrated mom calling her daughter a snot-head :cuss: (the cuss icon is meant for Casey, not for you, Anne :)

The good thing is that her web of lies has passed its 'use by' date and is now nothing but a bunch of flimsy cobwebs that disintegrate at the slightest touch. if she thinks it will support her much longer, she's up for a very rude awakening.

JMHO...

[callmetree]

I wonder if casey even knows how to tell the truth? I wonder if she just spins one lie after the other to Baez? He must be on pins and needles wondering how to defend her and what she tells him may come back during trial to bite him in the butt.

would bet he knows the truth! going to get bitten regardless IMOhammer