Monday, Sept. 29th/ Evening/ Day 105

[jbellaj]

My hubs and I have separate checking accounts and credit card accounts:tongue: Mine is play money and his is bill money rofl.

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto...but I think that's all going to change real so in my house.:shrug:

[?noanswer]

The header on that fax is too busy and has too many different fonts. Looks very amateurish to me.

I read quickly at the top and thought it said World Wide Pants! (Letterman's company.)

I agree. The header, typing and the content is not business oriented in any way. It was critiqued on last night't thread. One Poster wished s/he could see it in color to determine if it was done with crayons. JMO

[Rayosunshine]

Is "is not pristine" an accusation? Because that's what DG said.


trt, the problem is not what DG posted, it is the fact that DG posted it. I have seen these types of attacks almost on a daily basis, and it starts as soon as DG posts something.

[True2Blues]

It's not an accusation in the sense of being actionable, or for which one could expect to receive any damages through litigation.

imo

No, just a nasty insinuation with no actual facts to support it, intended to dirty the name of a person who has done nothing to deserve it.

[kakax]

Since Casey was unmarried when she had Caylee, any presumtive father would have to go through paternity testing before anything was done. And that would be a bit hard, as (at least back when I had knowledge of this), all three would have to have blood tests, mother, presumptive father, and child.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of these days, there is a home paternity test. Was just at the drug store and saw they have home drug tests that test for 12 different types of drugs. Amazing what they can do now. And in my day, I thought it was cool I could find out if I was pregnant only 4 days after a missed cycle lol!

[desmom]

Has anyone heard mention of Annie Downing. Have looked and looked but can't find any transcript on her. She is supposed to be CA's best and closest friend.:shrug:

I think LE is holding on to it for future charges. jmo

[summer4meplz]

Does anyone have Nancy Grace's email? TIA!


If you find it, please ask her nicely NOT interupt her guests, especially Mr. Grund...thanks!!

[day2day]

No body is surely that stupid. If they are, they Deserve to get wiped out.

Sorry i disagree. Elderly people quite often are drawn into scams JUST like this...I don't want to see one more person hurt by these people. JMO

[bluwaters]

And not many cash donations...and no gift cards...hammer
And if you read closely -this fund can be helped pay for Caylee's funeral expenses. HMMMM

No!!! :eek:

[jbellaj]

Yes, but Cindy can't quite recall the name of Caylee's father? :shrug:

She can't recall the name of the guy who brought a bag of Caylee's clothes to her house because LE didn't follow up on his calls. :rolleyes:

[AustinsMama]

If you find it, please ask her nicely NOT interupt her guests, especially Mr. Grund...thanks!!

I will! Haven't found it yet though...still searching. :shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

Has anyone heard mention of Annie Downing. Have looked and looked but can't find any transcript on her. She is supposed to be CA's best and closest friend.:shrug:

Nothing on Annie has been released. In one of the interviews, it was mentioned that Annie went to the tattoo shop with Casey. In another interview it was mentioned that if anyone would know what happened it would most likely be Annie and ? (sorry, can't think of the guy's name) - NOTE: this is not a quote, it is paraphrased from reading transcript

[MichelleP]

It's not an accusation in the sense of being actionable, or for which one could expect to receive any damages through litigation.

imo

One thing that bugs me about this whole thing is if it wasn't okay to talk about Cindy and Casey's family why would it be okay to talk about Zenaida?

Because I really don't see the difference.

[kakax]

IMO where i come from what Cindy Anthony said about his son to LE would be more than fighting words. SHE should be thanking her GOD that he is a bible believer and not a heathen like her daughter. :shrug:
JMO

And yep we have pentecostal churches where i come from!!



You do have a point there!

Guesses on what the light will shine...

A new theory about Caylee's disappearance?
LE has shared information with him that he is bursting to tell?
He wants to enlighten us on things that happened during Jesse and Casey's engagement?
Something totally different and we will all be wondering what the hub bub was about?

Just thinking out loud....

[day2day]

No!!! :eek:

Yep..but they "claim" she isn't dead. Don't want Tim to search for a dead Caylee-but JUST in case she is-we will use this money to bury her.
:no: signed by both George and Cindy...

[playnice]

Sorry i disagree. Elderly people quite often are drawn into scams JUST like this...I don't want to see one more person hurt by these people. JMO

You are right. I didnt think about the elderly that may not understand exactly what Casey did with Amys checks.:o

[jbellaj]

Has anyone heard mention of Annie Downing. Have looked and looked but can't find any transcript on her. She is supposed to be CA's best and closest friend.:shrug:

It wasn't released and I wonder why they are holding that one back. There must be a good reason. JMO

[bchand]

I was hoping the 66 post would hurry and come and go..lol...nah I'm nothing to worry about.

Who was it who was nicer to you before the pm?

[day2day]

You do have a point there!

Guesses on what the light will shine...

A new theory about Caylee's disappearance?
LE has shared information with him that he is bursting to tell?
He wants to enlighten us on things that happened during Jesse and Casey's engagement?
Something totally different and we will all be wondering what the hub bub was about?

Just thinking out loud....

George and Cindy's secrets?
The things Casey hasn't been able to "deal" with from long ago?

[mosey2]

Has anyone heard mention of Annie Downing. Have looked and looked but can't find any transcript on her. She is supposed to be CA's best and closest friend.:shrug:
She may not have anything of evidentiary value to the current charges. They might be saving the results of her interview for the murder charges discovery docs. We probably wont see it until Casey is charge in the murder of Caylee. But, I think her role wil be key, due to the fact that Casey mentioned in one of the emails that she could get xanax from Annie (not sure if it Downing).

[MyrDawn]

I will! Haven't found it yet though...still searching. :shrug:

Try this;
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?81

[Joan Weiss]

The state also released a list of witnesses who may be called to the stand if Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, is charged.

There are 85 names on the witness list including Anthony's own family and Zenaida Gonalez -- the woman who said Casey and the Anthonys ruined her life by naming her as the babysitter who disappeared with Caylee.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.htmlThank you. That was verrrrrry interesting. Any idea where the witness list is?

[kakax]

I recommend you don't take hubby's advice. Right now politics is centered around the economic crisis. I can only stand about two minutes of it before i'm convinced we're all going to be living in shoe boxes under bridges. You're better off here. :)

We are a lot alike then. I called my dad today and asked if it was armageodon. Tell you what. we can share a card board box under a bridge if it comes to that!

[playnice]

George and Cindy's secrets?
The things Casey hasn't been able to "deal" with from long ago?

If so, Cindy will break her vow of silence & call in during NG.:biggrin:

[margaret kep]

I think LE is holding on to it for future charges. jmo

ty desmom. I would be very interested in what she has to say,

[bchand]

I really apologize, I asked a question then walked away and made dinner- just yes or no whoever knows, do you refresh MySpace, so I don't sit here like a nimrod frantically hitting refresh for nothing? My right pointer finger thanks you in advance.:seeya:


I don't know about the refresh at myspace but why not just put it in your favorites then check it occasionally.

I have to go to the airport to pick up hubby so I'll miss the entire NG show. I hope you guys post in BOLD if anything does come out on her show.

[jbellaj]

Yep..but they "claim" she isn't dead. Don't want Tim to search for a dead Caylee-but JUST in case she is-we will use this money to bury her.
:no: signed by both George and Cindy...

Oh so the public must pay to place Caylee in a proper resting place. Their daughter is responsible for this poor baby's demise IMO of course and they have a lot of nerve asking that IF in fact this is true. JMO

[AustinsMama]

Try this;
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?81

THANK YOU Myr! I'm trying to work, search, and read at the same time!

[kakax]

Wow - she added me on her facebook and she is busy posting to discredit Nancy Grace. Wonder if Nancy knows this....it would be funny if she called Casey out on her show now that she knows the POI is calling her out!



Please, please, please call her and tell her that LOL!!

[MichelleP]

um, have you missed the thousands of posts about Casey's family?

Of course I didn't, my point is that people cried when Casey and her family were being talked about. I believe some of the same people that are crying now that is okay to talk about Zenaida, it's hypocritical.

[day2day]

make it stop!!:cuss:

I wish i could. I can't. It is like a BAD ride at the amusement park.
jmo

[mosey2]

Hes overzealously religious, imo. I can deal w/ it because my mother is similar.....she might be a fruit cake too for all I know. My personal beleifs are not the same as theirs, but to each his own and I hope they don't seat me in H3ll in between Casey and my ex husband.
LOL It wouldn't be H3ll if they didn't!

[kakax]

Protecting the Anthony family from protesters

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7538603&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

I think they should pay for the off duty officers like the rest of us. Problem solved. They are $18 an hour here. Much cheaper than the body gueards. We use them to patrol our neighborhood when there seem to be a higher number of burglaries.

[jbellaj]

George and Cindy's secrets?
The things Casey hasn't been able to "deal" with from long ago?

But Casey is a known liar her whole life so how can he believe anything that ever came out of her mouth...

You know what it may be...Cindy said in that interview and paraphrasing now that Jesse caused a ruckus in HER home after she reprimanded Casey about him laying on the bed with her. Stated that he had a temper and in her jailhouse visit to Casey, Casey told her to stay away from him and she had a scared look on her face when she said it. I bet that's what he may dispute tonight.:shrug: JMO

[martha]

Yep..but they "claim" she isn't dead. Don't want Tim to search for a dead Caylee-but JUST in case she is-we will use this money to bury her.
:no: signed by both George and Cindy...Oh my does g and c really have it posted to pay on caylee to bury her? what is wrong with them jmho:rose:

[barskin&co.]

The whole thing is hysterical .... people up in arms about something as simple as "Zenaida is not pristine." Compare THAT to all that's been said about Cindy Anthony on here. :lol:

What was said was "Zenaida is not pristine clean in this." That is just another insinuation that Zenaida is part of some strange conspiracy that this same poster has made times before and never had the courage to explain her theory or back up. It's always a little insinuation on the fly, and, like Kaiser Sose, <POOF> she's gone!

[kakax]

23 cents?

:hat:

What a great idea LOL!! Nah, they aren't worth it.

[jbellaj]

It's time for me to leave.......Everyone stay safe. :seeya:

[AustinsMama]

Please, please, please call her and tell her that LOL!!

I've emailed and I'm going to call.

IMO- I can't believe she has that many friends on her FB. They are all leaving her comments "keep your head up honey" "don't worry about all the haters" etc....are they all screwed up in the head or what?? OMG it's really making me sick. Funny thing is that all the friends she use to communicate with on FB are no longer on her friend lists- so why the heck is she still on? She keeps posting new pictures of Caylee- latest upload was on September 27. How does she live with herself? Truly UNBELIEVABLE!

[kakax]

I will flatten your tires! LOL


I just choked on my diet coke rofl!!

[aubrey04]

Your post made my day...:beer:

TY! :seeya:

[day2day]

But Casey is a known liar her whole life so how can he believe anything that ever came out of her mouth...

You know what it may be...Cindy said in that interview and paraphrasing now that Jesse caused a ruckus in HER home after she reprimanded Casey about him laying on the bed with her. Stated that he had a temper and in her jailhouse visit to Casey, Casey told her to stay away from him and she had a scared look on her face when she said it. I bet that's what he may dispute tonight.:shrug: JMO

Yep she is a liar...oh no doubt he is going to turn those tables on her. I just hope he keeps his cool. I don't know if i could!

[barskin&co.]

Well, I cannot believe I was distracted into this mishegas again. We know who makes the post and run accusations over and over and over again. These posters never explain, never offer proof and never answer questions. They don't deserve our attention. Enough is enough.

[summer4meplz]

And not many cash donations...and no gift cards...hammer
And if you read closely -this fund can be helped pay for Caylee's funeral expenses. HMMMM


I would love to be able to send a donation to help pay for Caylee's funeral expenses.....:rose:

[True2Blues]

um, have you missed the thousands of posts about Casey's family?

Cindy George and Lee sought out the media and couldn't get enough of the camera when this all began. They've all been caught lying to LE about things in a missing child case, they've all made public spectacles of themselves.

They wanted public attention, they've got it.

[MyrDawn]

THANK YOU Myr! I'm trying to work, search, and read at the same time!

Oh my, and here I'm just learning to walk and chew gum at the same time. :biggrin:

I'm curious to know how NG will respond, so don't forget to let us know!

[day2day]

I just choked on my diet coke rofl!!

:D Sorry-i just don't want ANY of my friends to lose even 23 cents to these people. jmo

[playnice]

I would love to be able to send a donation to help pay for Caylee's funeral expenses.....:rose:

If Casey would tell where she is so she can have one.:mad:

[kakax]

The whole thing is hysterical .... people up in arms about something as simple as "Zenaida is not pristine." Compare THAT to all that's been said about Cindy Anthony on here. :lol:



I find nothing about accusing someone of being involved in a child's disappearance, who has NOTHING to do with it, funny, Savannah. Maybe you do....

Same goes for this posters accusations about several other people. MOO

[mosey2]

So true. I've been to h3ll with him, don't care to revisit.

How many times have GA & CA been to church besides the once I remember long ago, since this whole mess came out? Not that attendance matters, you know, but its all for show, every single aspect of their life it seems. I bet Cindy told her co workers some wild wild tales and lies about her wonderful perfect life with her grand daughter, perfect marriage, great son & daughter.
Rick, Cindy's brother, said Cindy was MOST concerned with the image the family portrayed to others. Masking domestic disturbances, and personal strife. Everything is just a peachy-keen rose bed at the Anthony household. Bet she didnt know sometime in the near future their whole life would be ABSOLUTELY FILETED before the hungry nation, the WORLD. Double Wow!

[bluwaters]

Yep..but they "claim" she isn't dead. Don't want Tim to search for a dead Caylee-but JUST in case she is-we will use this money to bury her.
:no: signed by both George and Cindy...
Good catch d2d! It always pays to read the small print.
This creeps me out big time.
Did Nejame advise that disclaimer, do you think?

[True2Blues]

Zenaida's history has nothing to do with this case WHICH WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE.

Right, and no one has provided any actual evidence to the contrary.

[marshmallow]

One thing that bugs me about this whole thing is if it wasn't okay to talk about Cindy and Casey's family why would it be okay to talk about Zenaida?

Because I really don't see the difference.

the only difference I see(saw) was that Cindy put herself out there with her comments to the press. She opened her yap and yapped away. This other woman was drawn into it by Casey's lies. But I guess you can say that she (Cindy) was drawn into this by Casey's lies too.

A ZG was accused of a horrendous crime, kidnapping a child who is still missing. That makes her different but ....

I think if Cindy and George are fair game based on their entry into the foray, so is this ZG, now.


I wish this spiteful back and forth and side picking would end before the board ends up closed for the night.

[kakax]

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto...but I think that's all going to change real so in my house.:shrug:

I hear ya...my play days are probably over soon too.

[rosejustrose]

Rick, Cindy's brother, said Cindy was MOST concerned with the image the family portrayed to others. Masking domestic disturbances, and personal strife. Everything is just a peachy-keen rose bed at the Anthony household. Bet she didnt know sometime in the near future their whole life would be ABSOLUTELY FILETED before the hungry nation, the WORLD. Double Wow!


ITA. I would be mortified if this happened to my family. I certainly wouldn't be seeking out the press/media. I'd lay low and help LE anyway I could. Oh, and my daughter, she'd be rotting in jail until she started telling the truth. JMO.

[barskin&co.]

Look, if her remains were found tomorrow, a funeral service, etc would NOT be an issue. People drove 12 hours one way to participate in a search for her. You know the board people here plus alot lot more people would see to it that she was laid to rest respectfully. even if it took a funeral by the anthonys and a memorial for the rest of the world.

I agree, Barefooted.

[barskin&co.]

Well, time for Nancy, and I am psyched.

[day2day]

Oh my does g and c really have it posted to pay on caylee to bury her? what is wrong with them jmho:rose:

http://thedailybs.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/september-25th-trust-agreement.pdf

Purpose of the Trust-
The primary purposes of the Trust Fund will be to pay general expense relating to the location and recovery of Caylee Marie Anthony, as well as general expenses of the burial and estate administration of Caylee Marie Anthony, should she be deceased. Any funds remaining in the Trust Fund upon completions of the purposes designated herein, will be dontated to the organizations that have assisted in the search and locatons processes such as "Kid Finders Network" and the "Never Lose Hope Foundation", or to any other such organizations such as the Trustee deem appropriate and consistent with the designated purposes as stated herein.


OBVIOUSLY they missed TES.

jmo

[kakax]

I really apologize, I asked a question then walked away and made dinner- just yes or no whoever knows, do you refresh MySpace, so I don't sit here like a nimrod frantically hitting refresh for nothing? My right pointer finger thanks you in advance.:seeya:

I think you do. I'm not very good with those sites either. Haven't been on one long enough to know if you refresh but I would imagine so.

[jessie]

My sister told me awhile ago (before Caylee went missing) that Fox wanted Greta to focus more on politics instead of missing persons...:shrug:
Well that is good to know because I wont bother watching her or waiting for her to do her regular show.

[True2Blues]

the only difference I see(saw) was that Cindy put herself out there with her comments to the press. She opened her yap and yapped away. This other woman was drawn into it by Casey's lies. But I guess you can say that she (Cindy) was drawn into this by Casey's lies too.

A ZG was accused of a horrendous crime, kidnapping a child who is still missing. That makes her different but ....

I think if Cindy and George are fair game based on their entry into the foray, so is this ZG, now.


I wish this spiteful back and forth and side picking would end before the board ends up closed for the night.

You really don't see a difference between a woman who has been caught lying about circumstances in the case of her missing granddaughter and an uninvolved woman who just happens to have the wrong name?

[day2day]

Look, if her remains were found tomorrow, a funeral service, etc would NOT be an issue. People drove 12 hours one way to participate in a search for her. You know the board people here plus alot lot more people would see to it that she was laid to rest respectfully. even if it took a funeral by the anthonys and a memorial for the rest of the world.

I would do my part. I just will not contribute to this trust. jmo

[mosey2]

ITA. I would be mortified if this happened to my family. I certainly wouldn't be seeking out the press/media. I'd lay low and help LE anyway I could. Oh, and my daughter, she'd be rotting in jail until she started telling the truth. JMO.
Cindy lack class amongst other things. She is just clueless as to how she looks to the public. I was mortified whin, during her interview, she told Yuri "George and I have given you guys free reighn" WTF??? As if she is in charge of the investigation
Clueless, I tell you, clueless

MOO

[Joan Weiss]

The whole thing is hysterical .... people up in arms about something as simple as "Zenaida is not pristine." Compare THAT to all that's been said about Cindy Anthony on here. :lol:Zenaida has nothing to do with the Anthonys, Casey, or Caylee's disappearance. She didn't insert herself into this case, Casey put her there. People have no right to pick her apart on a message board. I'm sure you would feel differently if it were you. imo

[kakax]

But Casey is a known liar her whole life so how can he believe anything that ever came out of her mouth...

You know what it may be...Cindy said in that interview and paraphrasing now that Jesse caused a ruckus in HER home after she reprimanded Casey about him laying on the bed with her. Stated that he had a temper and in her jailhouse visit to Casey, Casey told her to stay away from him and she had a scared look on her face when she said it. I bet that's what he may dispute tonight.:shrug: JMO

You are probably right...that would make sense. I can wish for my top two scenarios though can't I lol!

[AMS]

NG is on Wearing black leather jacket. No mention of Mr. Grund in her intro.

[aubrey04]

Cindy Anthony has direct involvement in this case and has been proven to lie concerning this case.

ZFG has no connection to this case and has not been proven to lie concerning this case.

Apples to oranges like squirrels to a little girl.

I don't know whether ZFG has a good enough case to win a lawsuit against Casey, but if I were her lawyer - I would have someone scanning every message board on the internet looking for remarks such as the one posted.

To me - comments like that one bolster ZG's claims that she has been harmed by Casey's accusations.

JMO

Like I said early on, I have no opinion on ZG's decision to sue Casey though.

[Joan Weiss]

the only difference I see(saw) was that Cindy put herself out there with her comments to the press. She opened her yap and yapped away. This other woman was drawn into it by Casey's lies. But I guess you can say that she (Cindy) was drawn into this by Casey's lies too.

A ZG was accused of a horrendous crime, kidnapping a child who is still missing. That makes her different but ....

I think if Cindy and George are fair game based on their entry into the foray, so is this ZG, now.


I wish this spiteful back and forth and side picking would end before the board ends up closed for the night.ZG in no way is fair game. No one has a right to infer anything about her, she's an innocent party thrust into the fray. imo

[AMS]

NG

Tapes of Cindy saying she believes Zanny is either Amy or Jesse.

Computer forensics - no indication or reference to Zeneida.

Picture of girl looking at teddy in noose.

Now talkng about the death of a DC 29 year old woman.

[Joan Weiss]

I don't know whether ZFG has a good enough case to win a lawsuit against Casey, but if I were her lawyer - I would have someone scanning every message board on the internet looking for remarks such as the one posted.

To me - comments like that one bolster ZG's claims that she has been harmed by Casey's accusations.

JMO

Like I said early on, I have no opinion on ZG's decision to sue Casey though.ITA, and her attorney probably is. imo

[marshmallow]

You really don't see a difference between a woman who has been caught lying about circumstances in the case of her missing granddaughter and an uninvolved woman who just happens to have the wrong name?



yes I do but unfortunately when this woman chose to sue she lost that privacy aspect she'd been respectfully given. I don't blame her for sueing, I can't imagine seeing your name splashed all over the papers and tv and people looking at you askew.

[mosey2]

Casey's internet searches for missing child information shows premeditation in Caylee's murder.

[Joan Weiss]

yes I do but unfortunately when this woman chose to sue she lost that privacy aspect she'd been respectfully given. I don't blame her for sueing, I can't imagine seeing your name splashed all over the papers and tv and people looking at you askew.She's using the courts. That's what they're for. She's suing because what you suggest here has already happened. What don't you get about that? imo

[AMS]

NG

Tapes of George telling gas can story.

Latest:

- Casey visited missing children web sites as far back as March. TH said most 20-somethings don't go on web sotes looking for missing children. Makes her wonder if she was looking for info to help her when Caylee disappeared.

Lennie - Casey is a wiz at coming up with ideas but most of them are lying ideas. Said when Casey was driving around Sawgrass in Tony's jeep she must have seen Zenaida in her Kia. The Kia looks just like a Ford Focus which is how she came up with the idea that Zanny drives a Focus.

Cindy tapes.

[Pruddennce]

I can honestly say that has NOT been one of my theories.

not anyone's opinion in particular or you, the boards in general.

:)

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[playnice]

I hope NG is going to clarify that Jessie and Amy both took LE test and passed.:biggrin:

[marshmallow]

She's using the courts. That's what they're for. She's suing because what you suggest here has already happened. What don't you get about that? imo

it's not necessary to talk to me like that.

[MyrDawn]

Can someone provide a link to Mr. Grund's blog again, pretty please?

TIA :seeya:

Here's tis:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148

[Joan Weiss]

it's not necessary to talk to me like that.It's not necessary to talk to you at all.

[AMS]

Cindy tapes again dissing Jesse.

Mr. Grund on Nancy. Typical Cindy Anthony...point finger at someone else. Instead of looking at the prime suspect in her own household she points the finger. Cindy hasn't said the same thing twice since this began. He heard by August 1 from news people that the Anthony's were working to implicate Jesse.

Lennie - CIndy realized what had happened and who the cause was behind it. She never believed there was a Zenaida. Jose showed Lennie a card from Jesse to Casey/Cayllee expressing his affections for Caylee. She tried to take people's minds and bend them around Jesse.

[msjoni]

not anyone's opinion in particular or you, the boards in general.

:)

IMO

best regards,
Pru

I haven't seen to much on this board about it, but saw plenty on other boards....

[desmom]

Does everyone that knows my phone number call me when NG is on the air?

Psychologist is saying George and Cindy are the only one that really knows what Casey is capable of. She feels Caylee was a pawn.

jmo

[AMS]

NG says GPs are choosing to believe that Caylee is truly alive. TH said she is not sure. The GPs truly know Casey. Cindy may feel that she played a role in this. Not purposely but because of Casey's anger toward her.

[Pruddennce]

I wonder if Cindy said the same things to the FBI?

well, I think thats where it got really hairy.....George told the story, IMO and the FBI asked her about it..and she denied it.....same thing she did with LE. simply my opinion that it went down that way with the FBI.

George actually reacted embarrased IMO when LE brought it up about the FBI....it wasnt something he wanted to re-visit regarding Cindy or Casey.

best regards,
Pru

[impartial]

yes I do but unfortunately when this woman chose to sue she lost that privacy aspect she'd been respectfully given. I don't blame her for sueing, I can't imagine seeing your name splashed all over the papers and tv and people looking at you askew.




The ZFG that is suing was declared by Casey NOT to be the Zenaida she was referring to, before any of the information became public.

Casey indicated Zenaida was 26 years of age and had no children.

The initial reports were that Zenaida didn't exist. Then it was reported that a Zenaida was at Sawgrass in April. We were all surprised when it was discovered through the document dump that a Zenaida did exist, and was at Sawgrass on June 17.

I still say there is something to investigate here .. not that Zenaida necessarily has anything to do with Caylee missing ... but the connection of ZFG and Sawgrass is the only thing of Casey's story that has a paper trail. How did Casey put that connection together ... did someone at Sawgrass give her that information, and if so, why.

Also, when LE interviewed her, they were under the impression Zenaida was at Sawgrass in April ... why didn't she correct them? It's a valid question. Why was she looking for an apartment when she was unemployed. Why did Sawgrass's computer records reveal she was there in April (the computer records is why LE thought she was there in April). Was she there more than once? These are all valid questions.



IMO

[day2day]

OMG this is FIRING ME UP! Both Jesse's father and Lenny P. are flat out accusing Cindy of very deliberately trying to pin Caylee's disappearance on Jesse. hammer

What else can we call it? She said-after over an hour of Zanny BS that she really thinks that Zanny is Amy or Jesse?!

[kakax]

May I join you? I'll bring my own box. We can talk about the case.

You know it... we can all schooch close together in our boxes!! praying for our leaders to make the right decisions

[Joan Weiss]

The ZFG that is suing was declared by Casey NOT to be the Zenaida she was referring to, before any of the information became public.

Casey indicated Zenaida was 26 years of age and had no children.

The initial reports were that Zenaida didn't exist. Then it was reported that a Zenaida was at Sawgrass in April. We were all surprised when it was discovered through the document dump that a Zenaida did exist, and was at Sawgrass on June 17.

I still say there is something to investigate here .. not that Zenaida necessarily has anything to do with Caylee missing ... but the connection of ZFG and Sawgrass is the only thing of Casey's story that has a paper trail. How did Casey put that connection together ... did someone at Sawgrass give her that information, and if so, why.

Also, when LE interviewed her, they were under the impression Zenaida was at Sawgrass in April ... why didn't she correct them? It's a valid question. Why was she looking for an apartment when she was unemployed. Why did Sawgrass's computer records reveal she was there in April (the computer records is why LE thought she was there in April). Was she there more than once? These are all valid questions.



IMOShe was working. She got fired because her employer didn't want this mess brought into the workplace. Did you miss that?

Why would she be suing if there was anything nefarious? That doesn't even make sense. imo

[trich]

Originally Posted by Joan Weiss
She's using the courts. That's what they're for. She's suing because what you suggest here has already happened. What don't you get about that? imo

I agree !
I hope it goes to court and I hope then people realize this woman had had to suffer all sorts of indignities because of Casey's lies.
Sheesh even some on this board actually believe Casey .....which for the life of me I will never understand.
She will never probably receive any monetary damages but at least she will get satisfaction that she is an innocent .
Casey has managed to destroy alot of lives all because of her irresponsible behavior.

[MyrDawn]

The ZFG that is suing was declared by Casey NOT to be the Zenaida she was referring to, before any of the information became public.

Casey indicated Zenaida was 26 years of age and had no children.

The initial reports were that Zenaida didn't exist. Then it was reported that a Zenaida was at Sawgrass in April. We were all surprised when it was discovered through the document dump that a Zenaida did exist, and was at Sawgrass on June 17.

I still say there is something to investigate here .. not that Zenaida necessarily has anything to do with Caylee missing ... but the connection of ZFG and Sawgrass is the only thing of Casey's story that has a paper trail. How did Casey put that connection together ... did someone at Sawgrass give her that information, and if so, why.

Also, when LE interviewed her, they were under the impression Zenaida was at Sawgrass in April ... why didn't she correct them? It's a valid question. Why was she looking for an apartment when she was unemployed. Why did Sawgrass's computer records reveal she was there in April (the computer records is why LE thought she was there in April). Was she there more than once? These are all valid questions.

IMO

Zenaida FhyphenG wasn't unemployed when she was looking at the apartment on the 17th. She was fired later, after her name was spread all over the news and there was a lot of negative publicity.
JMO

[impartial]

She was working. She got fired because her employer didn't want this mess brought into the workplace. Did you miss that? imo


IIRC ... either her myspace or her initial interview indicated she wasn't working at the time she visited Sawgrass. There was discussion about it at the time, why was she apartment hunting without a job.

IMO

[day2day]

I hear ya. I'm just so dang happy to finally see someone set the record straight. I'm so sick of the we better handle Cindy with kid gloves cuz she's a grieving grandma routine. The woman is vile and she's trying to implicate others for the crimes of her vile daughter. Time for some truth telling! :beer:

Yup-i'm so with you. I have never heard more lies in an hour in my life. Like i said-Cindy should be thankin God these people are christians!!
jmo

[aubrey04]

OMG this is FIRING ME UP! Both Jesse's father and Lenny P. are flat out accusing Cindy of very deliberately trying to pin Caylee's disappearance on Jesse. hammer

Why are you fired up about that? Cindy DID try to pin Caylee's disappearance on Jesse and/or Amy.

[Velouria]

If the Anthony's have lied, you wouldn't have known about if until the release of documents. The accusations against them started way before the documents were released. I have to wonder how Zenaida would look if her entire history were released to the public.


And her "history" relates to this case how, exactly?

[Joan Weiss]

IIRC ... either her myspace or her initial interview indicated she wasn't working at the time she visited Sawgrass. There was discussion about it at the time, why was she apartment hunting without a job.

IMOWhat part of she was working don't you understand? What business is it of anyone's why she was looking for an apt? LE already cleared her. There's nothing to investigate. Just nosy, imo.

[Acorn]

http://thedailybs.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/september-25th-trust-agreement.pdf

Purpose of the Trust-
The primary purposes of the Trust Fund will be to pay general expense relating to the location and recovery of Caylee Marie Anthony, as well as general expenses of the burial and estate administration of Caylee Marie Anthony, should she be deceased. Any funds remaining in the Trust Fund upon completions of the purposes designated herein, will be dontated to the organizations that have assisted in the search and locatons processes such as "Kid Finders Network" and the "Never Lose Hope Foundation", or to any other such organizations such as the Trustee deem appropriate and consistent with the designated purposes as stated herein.


OBVIOUSLY they missed TES.

jmo

Oh, G&C, please keep adding more reasons preventing me from donating: I'm not going to give them $ to pay for filing fees and an attorney to settle Caylee's estate.

[impartial]

Zenaida FhyphenG wasn't unemployed when she was looking at the apartment on the 17th. She was fired later, after her name was spread all over the news and there was a lot of negative publicity.
JMO


Okay, I have to go back and find the posts ... perhaps it was just board rumors ... I do recall posts about her not having a job at the time. Can't recall where or when though. Could have been at WS.

IMO

[aubrey04]

NG has one of my least favorite defense attorney on as an expert. Carmen St George - that chick is dumb as a box of rocks. She has gotten a tad better being a legal analyst but she's just really not very good.

Then we have Lenny again..This is freak show central on NG.

[Joan Weiss]

Okay, I have to go back and find the posts ... perhaps it was just board rumors ... I do recall posts about her not having a job at the time. Can't recall where or when though. Could have been at WS.

IMOCould be just vicious gossip, in the vein of ripping apart someone who has nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance, and for no particular reason other than vicious gossip. imo

[AMS]

NG

More Cindy tapes. Talking about Zanny's car accident and going to Tampa General Hospital. Zanny had a concussion.

Casey on-line googling Zenaida. Former LE said no doubt she totally had this planned out to have an alibi. She was smooth because she had researched her for so long and had it so well scripted.

Unleash the lawyers -

If they can show she was the person on the computer googling a non-existent person..it will be damaging at trial.

Defense lawyer - no evidence that Casey can think around the corner let alone weeks ahead of time. No proof she was the one on the computer.

[Rayosunshine]

Can anyone figure out what the "spotlight of truth" was?

[Pruddennce]

Right you are. Whatever is in her past has nothing to do with this case we are discussing.

Im a bit suspect of somone who wants to claim a copyright on their name, IMO that is exactly what she is doing. who was a nobody and still is. the majority of the people cant even remember the name zenaida, let alont spell it and say it together with the last name by memory.

IMO, she is another opportunist who put herself out there via the 'shadow look' on TV crying woe is me so people WOULD be able to remember her.

people have identical names, its not uncommon. whatever happened to: excuse me, but no Im not that particular person and move on....

if it were true, loss of employment, she should be suing HER EMPLOYER for crying out loud. plenty of legs to stand on in that regard.

best regards,
Pru

[Joan Weiss]

WHOA!!! HOLD UP!

The search dates for Zenaida??? 6/16?That was already posted on the board here over the weekend. imo

[trich]

Originally Posted by SayWHAT?
OMG this is FIRING ME UP! Both Jesse's father and Lenny P. are flat out accusing Cindy of very deliberately trying to pin Caylee's disappearance on Jesse.


Cindy is saying that ....did you not hear what she said.
She is blaiming Jessie.
Not only Cindy but Baez too by showing Padilla that birthday card.

[impartial]

What part of she was working don't you understand? What business is it of anyone's why she was looking for an apt? LE already cleared her. There's nothing to investigate. Just nosy, imo.

LE may have cleared her ... it's the connection that Casey put together that has confirmation ... and that will be part of any trial ... and if LE doesn't have a good reason for Casey to have that information, it will cause the prosecution problems at trial.

And LE should be investigating that connection ... how did Casey get that information. Sawgrass employees said they didn't recognize Casey ... it's not a coincidence, she had that information somehow.
Follow the evidence, not the theory, and perhaps they will find a way to discover if anyone else has knowledge.

IMO

[Joan Weiss]

NG is boring tonight. Does anyone know if the witness list for the potential murder trial has been posted?

[MyrDawn]

Okay, I have to go back and find the posts ... perhaps it was just board rumors ... I do recall posts about her not having a job at the time. Can't recall where or when though. Could have been at WS.

IMO

There are rumors all over the internet, but that doesn't change the facts. She was working when she looked at that aparment, and was fired from her job because of all the negative publicity when this story broke and her name was splashed all over the news.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17579545/detail.html

[AMS]

NG - what was the purpose of Casey telling the story of the made-up nanny getting into a car crash and splitting her skull? NG producer said Casey was trying to avoid going home.

Tape of Cindy repeating all the details of the Zanny car accident. Many, many details.

Casey apologized to Cindy for not calling her back earlier but she was in the ER with Zanny.

[FrankieBones1]

NG has one of my least favorite defense attorney on as an expert. Carmen St George - that chick is dumb as a box of rocks. She has gotten a tad better being a legal analyst but she's just really not very good.

Then we have Lenny again..This is freak show central on NG.If anyone from here is calling her show tonight could you ask her not to keep showing the same clips again of the police interview? If I have to hear the fake story of Zanny and Rachelle's car accident again, I'll......

[Joan Weiss]

LE may have cleared her ... it's the connection that Casey put together that has confirmation ... and that will be part of any trial ... and if LE doesn't have a good reason for Casey to have that information, it will cause the prosecution problems at trial.

And LE should be investigating that connection ... how did Casey get that information. Sawgrass employees said they don't recognize Casey ... it's not a coincidence, she had that information somehow.
Follow the evidence, not the theory, and perhaps they will find a way to discover if anyone else has knowledge.

IMOCasey googled her name in June, it was just repeated on MG.

LE already cleared ZG. How many times does that have to be stated?

[bluwaters]

NG is not trying to defend Cindy?
NG has been such a supporter of C&G as victims only.
Has even NG seen the light?

[playnice]

Can anyone figure out what the "spotlight of truth" was?

That Cindy was trying to pin it on someone else?
That Jessie TOOK a LE test and PASSED for those that continue to bash their family:shrug:

[st777jo]

NG - what was the purpose of Casey telling the story of the made-up nanny getting into a car crash and splitting her skull? NG producer said Casey was trying to avoid going home.

Tape of Cindy repeating all the details of the Zanny car accident. Many, many details.

Casey apologized to Cindy for not calling her back earlier but she was in the ER with Zanny.

I don't think Casey ever apologized to anyone in her lifetime.

And I guess Cindy forgot she said that anytime Casey went out, she babysit.

[kakax]

well, I think thats where it got really hairy.....George told the story, IMO and the FBI asked her about it..and she denied it.....same thing she did with LE. simply my opinion that it went down that way with the FBI.

George actually reacted embarrased IMO when LE brought it up about the FBI....it wasnt something he wanted to re-visit regarding Cindy or Casey.

best regards,
Pru

It is shocking, if true, that Cindy wasn't forthcoming with the FBI or the police. Her credibility is shot. Not that it wasn't before, but this is horrific, don't you think? I can't imagine they would give ALL information they could rack their brains to find!

[msjoni]

I don't think it's all about guilt, though. I think Cindy's 50 year effort to convince people she's perfect and her family's perfect is crashing down around her and she's trying to keep it propped up best she can.

Way too late, Cindy, sweetie. The SS PrincessPantsOnFire has sailed.

Cindy is arrogant and eventually arrogance will come back to bite you in the a$$. KARMA

[playnice]

Casey googled her name in June, it was just repeated on MG.

LE already cleared ZG. How many times does that have to be stated?

Its not hard to understand, is it:shrug:

[AMS]

NG is not trying to defend Cindy?
NG has been such a supporter of C&G as victims only.
Has even NG seen the light?


Yep. My guess is that she watched the tapes.

[Rayosunshine]

That Cindy was trying to pin it on someone else?
That Jessie TOOK a LE test and PASSED for those that continue to bash their family:shrug:


Such a revelation revealed on Monday night. Now the Rev. didn't say which Monday night, in his blog.

[Joan Weiss]

TY Joan. If that's the only (or first) day Z was searched... How does this go to motive? Wouldn't it make sense that Casey was searching the woman who kidnapped her child the day before the 15th? I'm so confused.6/16 was the date she googled ZFG. I don't know what to think about that. :confused:

[mosey2]

Zenaida FhyphenG wasn't unemployed when she was looking at the apartment on the 17th. She was fired later, after her name was spread all over the news and there was a lot of negative publicity.
JMOROFLOL That is far and away my favortie spelling of the name so far!

[Nellie]

I was finding NG interesting, but I admit that I haven't had time to hear every word of the tapes and I had a really hard time hearing Cindy's tape most of all. I just sit here in shock at every word this woman speaks. There is NO WAY she can seriously think people will believe this stuff....but yet she says it with a serious, straight face. I had to really laugh when she was talking about the "rules of the house" and how Jesse didn't respect them. I'm like...whoa lady...you really live in la-la-land! And then when "Casey apologized to me for not calling" (or something like that. I'm sorry, but a daughter who will say "F...ing" to her parents just don't strike me as someone who would be so polite to them. This lady just does NOT live in reality and neither does her daughter. I haven't decided on George or Anthony yet.

ONe thing I do know though....they all knew "who" Casey was and they did NOT protect Caylee from her. They knew she wasn't trustworthy but yet Caylee couldn't rely on them. And now it's just like Caylee was a "throwaway". So incredibly sad.....

[day2day]

NG is not trying to defend Cindy?
NG has been such a supporter of C&G as victims only.
Has even NG seen the light?

Maybe like Lee says-the light went OUT in her head...:lol:

[forensicfan]

NG

More Cindy tapes. Talking about Zanny's car accident and going to Tampa General Hospital. Zanny had a concussion.

Casey on-line googling Zenaida. Former LE said no doubt she totally had this planned out to have an alibi. She was smooth because she had researched her for so long and had it so well scripted.

Unleash the lawyers -

If they can show she was the person on the computer googling a non-existent person..it will be damaging at trial.

Defense lawyer - no evidence that Casey can think around the corner let alone weeks ahead of time. No proof she was the one on the computer.


My head is spinning. Didn't Cindy say that she had never met nor spoken to Zanny? So now she knows her and knows she was in a car accident? Which is it? Geez! Lie after lie. Like mother like daughter!

[Joan Weiss]

Its not hard to understand, is it:shrug:No. I guess some think they are smarter than LE. :shrug:

I never latched on to ZFG. I guess I knew it wasn't valid. It was too bizarre. imo

[aubrey04]

I hear ya. I'm just so dang happy to finally see someone set the record straight. I'm so sick of the we better handle Cindy with kid gloves cuz she's a grieving grandma routine. The woman is vile and she's trying to implicate others for the crimes of her vile daughter. Time for some truth telling! :beer:

I answered that a bit upthread. Sorry -- didn't make myself clear in my first post. I'm totally jazzed that people are finally starting to get vocal about Cindy.

TY for clearing it up.. I gotcha.. I just read it wrong. Thanks for explaining.

:patriot:

Yes, it was nice that Richard Grund (and ...sighs.. Lenny) got to clear Jesse's name more. Reinterate that Jesse has taken a lie detector test by the FBI and passed it.

[playnice]

The evil Genius.:D

[kakax]

*snipped very respectfully*



2nd commercial....


Ty for the updates...of course my son got out of bed right during the prime part.

[trich]

Yes, I know. :seeya: I didn't make myself clear about what I was fired up about. I suspect I'll be trying to clear this up for the remainder of this thread. :o



Sorry I guess I missunderstood ...what you were fired up about...I thought you meant just the opposite...thought you didn't think that Cindy was suggesting that.

[mosey2]

6/16 was the date she googled ZFG. I don't know what to think about that. :confused:
Just after her first interview, I think. Casey was up all night doing lots of stuff on the internet, according to the docs. I noticed 2am and 6am 6/16 timestamps on a few

[msjoni]

Can anyone figure out what the "spotlight of truth" was?

That Cindy is blaming Jesse/Amy instead of the real person who is responsible....Cindy has gall.:mad:

[MyrDawn]

Im a bit suspect of somone who wants to claim a copyright on their name, IMO that is exactly what she is doing. who was a nobody and still is. the majority of the people cant even remember the name zenaida, let alont spell it and say it together with the last name by memory.

IMO, she is another opportunist who put herself out there via the 'shadow look' on TV crying woe is me so people WOULD be able to remember her.

people have identical names, its not uncommon. whatever happened to: excuse me, but no Im not that particular person and move on....

if it were true, loss of employment, she should be suing HER EMPLOYER for crying out loud. plenty of legs to stand on in that regard.

best regards,
Pru

It's true that there are many other Zenaida Gonzales'...but this one is the ONLY one that was at the Sawgrass Apartments around the time Caylee went missing.
JMO

[frances1]

Do you see what I mean though?... NG is screetching that's motive.
When in actuality.. that is something that could back up her story.
I was doing my own investigation ..I spent the whole next day googling ZFG ... bliddity blah blah
:shrug:

IMO it would only back up her story if the entire jury panel are morons.

[barskin&co.]

6/16 was the date she googled ZFG. I don't know what to think about that. :confused:

I don't know if that reporter was correct. 7/16 was the date that the forensic experts were checking the computer. The date 7/16 appears on everything they looked at.

[trich]

Question:

Did the LE ever say they investigated that supposed accident at the hospital?

[kakax]

IIRC ... either her myspace or her initial interview indicated she wasn't working at the time she visited Sawgrass. There was discussion about it at the time, why was she apartment hunting without a job.

IMO

There was a business number listed on her investigation files. I don't know which is true to be honest.

[impartial]

Casey googled her name in June, it was just repeated on MG.

LE already cleared ZG. How many times does that have to be stated?



Oh FGS ... How many times do I have to state that it's the connection to investigate ... not Zenaida.

Does googling Zenaida on June 16th give Casey the connection that Zenaida was at Sawgrass on June 17th? That would be an impossibility.

You are apparently misunderstanding my posts.

IMO

[mosey2]

Do you see what I mean though?... NG is screetching that's motive.
When in actuality.. that is something that could back up her story.
I was doing my own investigation ..I spent the whole next day googling ZFG ... bliddity blah blah
:shrug:That crossed my mind, too. But if Casey was (helping with the) search(ing) for ZFG, why weren't the searches started on June 15th? This evidence leans toward the prosecution, imo.

[Joan Weiss]

She keeps showing the same clips over and over...why does she do that, isn;t there enough about this case to talk about, why repeat? (I have to remember, not all of the country is as informed as people on true crime message boards...some only get their info from TV not even a computer...)I guess we forget that all NG watchers don't have computers, and/or haven't heard the interview tapes, lol...

[mosey2]

JUNE 16th. She wasn't interviewed until July 16th.Oh, you're right, you're right. My mistake JULY 16!

[impartial]

I don't know if that reporter was correct. 7/16 was the date that the forensic experts were checking the computer. The date 7/16 appears on everything they looked at.



They probably picked up the "created" date. The report does state the search was on July 16th.

IMO

[Velouria]

mr grund- NG asks-do you think shes legally insane? He said, hes not a dr, yes she was a liar and she had problems w/ the truth, we are now seeing a casey that nobody recognizes. even her friends say they have no idea who this casey is.



That's because they're finally seeing the real Casey, and not the false front she'd always presented of a normal girlfriend/mother/friend. As Jesse said, she's a chameleon.

[bluwaters]

Do you see what I mean though?... NG is screetching that's motive.
When in actuality.. that is something that could back up her story.
I was doing my own investigation ..I spent the whole next day googling ZFG ... bliddity blah blah
:shrug:

That is certainly what the defense will say.

However, Casey's entire life is documented in that computer; everyone she knows, everyone she communicates with is in there.
How is it that the nanny that Caylee and even Casey herself spend sooo much time with does not appear anywhere on that computer until 6/16?

So ,yeah, I think it can and will be argued both ways. :shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

June 16th, not July 16th. The day Caylee went 'missing.'Yes, but 2AM and 6AM? That's before she claims she dropped Caylee off. :eek:

imo

[forensicfan]

Just after her first interview, I think. Casey was up all night doing lots of stuff on the internet, according to the docs. I noticed 2am and 6am 6/16 timestamps on a few

I just googled my own name and came up with a bunch of people with names similar to mine that are definitely not me. I'm wondering what googling ZFG would do for her other than to pull up a common name. Do they know if she entered any of the sites with this name and what those sites were?

[barskin&co.]

That Cindy is blaming Jesse/Amy instead of the real person who is responsible....Cindy has gall.:mad:

It's bad enough that Cindy accused Jesse, but Amy? Cindy doesn't even know Amy. She met her once. And Casey only knew Amy for a year, 6 months of which she was away, working on a cruise ship.
Not that I understand Cindy's theory of the crime in either case, mind you.

[luvinlife]

And where does Cindy think Jesse had access to Casey's car???? Or does she think he "discovered" where the car was towed and put the body in the trunk "when no one was looking?"



IMO I don't think she was trying to say Jesse killed Caylee just that she thought that maybe (finding a small bit of truth in Casey's lie) that Jesse took Caylee to keep her away from Cindy. Again JMO


Now I don't approve of Cindy doing this, but I do not find it any different than Jesse trying to say that AL or AH had something to do with Caylee's disappearance. moo

[mosey2]

Yes, but 2AM and 6AM? That's before she claims she dropped Caylee off. :eek:

imoNo, I corrected my mistake above. The searches for Zenaida were made in the early hours of JULY 16th
Sorry for the confusion!

[forensicfan]

She may have been gathering just enough information to bring Zanny to life.

That's what I am thinking.

[bluwaters]

Witness List Released In Casey Anthony Case
Sheriff's Officials Decide Anthonys Should Hold Vigils Inside
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/17581962/detail.html

[kakax]

Yes, I know. :seeya: I didn't make myself clear about what I was fired up about. I suspect I'll be trying to clear this up for the remainder of this thread. :o

Nope....I knew what you meant!!!

[not.another]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html


Witness List Released In Casey Anthony Case
Sheriff's Officials Decide Anthonys Should Hold Vigils Inside

[MyrDawn]

Oh FGS ... How many times do I have to state that it's the connection to investigate ... not Zenaida.

Does googling Zenaida on June 16th give Casey the connection that Zenaida was at Sawgrass on June 17th? That would be an impossibility.

You are apparently misunderstanding my posts.

IMO

I've heard several times that one of Casey's boyfriends lived across the street from the Sawgrass Apartments. If that's true, Casey could have gone over and glanced at the guestbook and saw ZG's name there. IMO

[Lyndawitha"Y]

NG - what was the purpose of Casey telling the story of the made-up nanny getting into a car crash and splitting her skull? NG producer said Casey was trying to avoid going home.

Tape of Cindy repeating all the details of the Zanny car accident. Many, many details.

Casey apologized to Cindy for not calling her back earlier but she was in the ER with Zanny.

This is no soubt just one example of casey dupping her parents..making excuses..something she's obviously been doing most her life..She is assuming this story cannot be exposed as a lie..She's wrong on that point! Casey has no ability to see herself in any other role than conning those around her..Geesh..She is not to be trusted in what she said, professes and did!!

LMS

BtW.. I just cant post here too much..I get far to insensed with this case..but do pray for a justice in whatever form to prevail!!

[kakax]

NG is not trying to defend Cindy?
NG has been such a supporter of C&G as victims only.
Has even NG seen the light?

I noticed that she didn't take on the story of the car chase. Hope she gets to that tomorrow night. Watch out when NG has seen the light and it points towards you!!:chicken:

[Joan Weiss]

No, I corrected my mistake above. The searches for Zenaida were made in the early hours of JULY 16th
Sorry for the confusion!Thanks. She googled the name and found ZGs in several states. That's why she told LE NY, PR, and etc. She thought that would keep them busy for awhile.

So, Caylee went missing 6/16, and Casey didn't google her until July 16. Really busy looking for ZFG in those "31 days," wasn't she? :rolleyes:

imo

[MyrDawn]

I guess we forget that all NG watchers don't have computers, and/or haven't heard the interview tapes, lol...

:lol: True!
But I do wish she wouldn't show the same clips over and over.

[mosey2]

I just googled my own name and came up with a bunch of people with names similar to mine that are definitely not me. I'm wondering what googling ZFG would do for her other than to pull up a common name. Do they know if she entered any of the sites with this name and what those sites were?Per the docs:
"A keyword search for "Zenaida" revealed Web pages indicating that a user search the internet for that name on July 16, 2008. Those entries were bookmarked under "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez" section of this report"

IOW, All the web pages accessed from the search are submitted into evidence.

[bluwaters]

Injunction Against Protesters Ouside Anthony Home Denied Again
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/29/injunction_against_anthony_family_protesters_denie d_again.html

[kakax]

Casey googled her name in June, it was just repeated on MG.

LE already cleared ZG. How many times does that have to be stated?

One of the important things I missed while tucking my son in for the 3rd time rofl! So was it June or July?

[playnice]

I've heard several times that one of Casey's boyfriends lived across the street from the Sawgrass Apartments. If that's true, Casey could have gone over and glanced at the guestbook and saw ZG's name there. IMO

Annie Downing and Dante lived in apt 218 SA according to Lenny. It would have been easy for her to see that guest card. When she was driving around in Tonys vechicle, she would have seen the car. I guess she got the color right but the make wrong.:D

[Joan Weiss]

I've heard several times that one of Casey's boyfriends lived across the street from the Sawgrass Apartments. If that's true, Casey could have gone over and glanced at the guestbook and saw ZG's name there. IMOITA. I think that's what she did. imo

[Joan Weiss]

Per the docs:
"A keyword search for "Zenaida" revealed Web pages indicating that a user search the internet for that name on July 16, 2008. Those entries were bookmarked under "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez" section of this report"

IOW, All the web pages accessed from the search are submitted into evidence.

One of the important things I missed while tucking my son in for the 3rd time rofl! So was it June or July?It's right here.

[impartial]

I've heard several times that one of Casey's boyfriends lived across the street from the Sawgrass Apartments. If that's true, Casey could have gone over and glanced at the guestbook and saw ZG's name there. IMO


She filled out a guest card, not guest book.

Still doesn't explain Ricardo's statement that Casey told him in February 2008 that her nanny's name was Zenaida.

I'm starting to wonder that perhaps a Zanny/Zenaida did babysit for Caylee at some point, perhaps in 2006 ... not as a nanny, but perhaps once or twice. Or maybe someone she met in the park with Caylee.

I was totally surprised how many Zenaida Gonzales' there are.

IMO

[forensicfan]

Per the docs:
"A keyword search for "Zenaida" revealed Web pages indicating that a user search the internet for that name on July 16, 2008. Those entries were bookmarked under "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez" section of this report"

IOW, All the web pages accessed from the search are submitted into evidence.


Thank you. I'm wondering what else is to come.

[cassidy]

Injunction Against Protesters Ouside Anthony Home Denied Again
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/29/injunction_against_anthony_family_protesters_denie d_again.html


Why would they need an injunction now? The only time any activity has been reported was Sunday nite when the Anthony's decided to have a vigil. didn't the HOA ask then to move the vigils elsewhere? Guess the Anthony's don't give a flying fig about their neighbors huh?

JMO

[Nellie]

This is no soubt just one example of casey dupping her parents..making excuses..something she's obviously been doing most her life..She is assuming this story cannot be exposed as a lie..She's wrong on that point! Casey has no ability to see herself in any other role than conning those around her..Geesh..She is not to be trusted in what she said, professes and did!!

LMS

BtW.. I just cant post here too much..I get far to insensed with this case..but do pray for a justice in whatever form to prevail!!

No parent can be this dense! I'm sorry, but they knew they couldn't trust a word out of her mouth! They've known her for 22 years and there's no way they didn't her story telling and lies. I know if my kids would have lied like that I would not have trusted/believed anything they said. But yet George says to the LE..."you believe your kids". NOT when they're liars!!!!! Cindy and George both should have been able to pick up on her "stories". No one can be THAT STUPID! :flamemad:

[impartial]

And another thing ...this Attorney of Zenaidas mus be banking on future funds from the anthonys' in some manner ,or is he really filing suit for ZFG for publicity...I'll go for the later ,because the Anthony's have nothing ...think about it .

Publicity.

IMO

[kakax]

End of NG. I did a carpy job but I am exhausted. This was for you, grannyB...:beer:


And for those of us who were chasing their kids back to bed LOL!! I may have one more round to go before their down rofl.

[Pruddennce]

It is shocking, if true, that Cindy wasn't forthcoming with the FBI or the police. Her credibility is shot. Not that it wasn't before, but this is horrific, don't you think? I can't imagine they would give ALL information they could rack their brains to find!

concerning LE, Cindy lied when they asked her about the car chase. the big question is why? George on the other hand readily gave the account of how Casey took Cindy's car.....its worth the listen, his demeanor, his excited utterances....Cindy didnt want him to go after her.....

she denied knowledge of the incident....she denied the # of cc's Casey had of her's in her possession.

same tune Casey sang with LE....and LE reacting the same way with Cindy...this is being helpful? (because they knew what were the facts were at that moment in time, and were witnessing liars).

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Nellie]

Why would they need an injunction now? The only time any activity has been reported was Sunday nite when the Anthony's decided to have a vigil. didn't the HOA ask then to move the vigils elsewhere? Guess the Anthony's don't give a flying fig about their neighbors huh?

JMO

They don't seem to give a flying fig about Caylee .....why would they give a rat's a..... about their neighbors?
They only care about themselves! :mad:

[playnice]

I thought I knew someone that was a pathalogical liar but they no way measure up to Casey in the lie department. I am just blown away how someone can lie like that.

[kakax]

Witness List Released In Casey Anthony Case
Sheriff's Officials Decide Anthonys Should Hold Vigils Inside
http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/17581962/detail.html

Video with it...

http://www.wesh.com/video/17584838/index.html


Thanks Blu!!

[impartial]

So she didn't Google Zanny until she needed to come up with something.

Or Cindy or Lee googled it looking for her.

Googling her name in July wouldn't provide her with the Sawgrass connection on June 17th.

IMO

[barskin&co.]

She filled out a guest card, not guest book.

Still doesn't explain Ricardo's statement that Casey told him in February 2008 that her nanny's name was Zenaida.

I'm starting to wonder that perhaps a Zanny/Zenaida did babysit for Caylee at some point, perhaps in 2006 ... not as a nanny, but perhaps once or twice. Or maybe someone she met in the park with Caylee.

I was totally surprised how many Zenaida Gonzales' there are.

IMO

She created the "Zanny" before that, and she found a real Zenaida for a babysitter, after? Isn't that a little too convenient? But , basically, Imp, I ask you, do you really see Casey hiring a babysitter, ever? I think she went with freebees or neglect when it came to child care.

[kakax]

Does anyone know who Rich Granard is? He is on the list of witnesses. I don't recall his name?

[rosejustrose]

WHOA!!! HOLD UP!

The search dates for Zenaida??? 6/16?


No, it was July 16 on the home computer that LE confiscated. Point was made it may not have been Casey. IIRC she was with LE most of the day and then arrested. IMO, it was Cindy or Lee accessing Casey's account. JMO.

[day2day]

My name is NOT usual, I have googled it first middle and maiden and there are others w/ same name, but my spelling is very unique so no exact match. A newspaper in kansas City did an investigative report on hep C and liver transplant and interviewed me, sent a guy out to do photos (we are unusual in that we are 3 generations w/ this) and the whole thing came up on my computer, shocked me to death. My sister in law sent me email said hey, google your name! (why she was googling my name I have no idea) they interviewed several people for the story. who knew? all FYI and jmo.
You can find out enough about someone, why put the rest of it on Myspace, thats what i don't get.

:rose: prayers for you my friend! And even though my name is pretty common..and i try to be careful -i get google alerts about ME! I do not have myspace or facebook. My Dad said if i did with a littleone in this house-he would smash my puter ..and i would be looking for her at HIS house!! (i trust my dad alot!)

:chicken:

[Pruddennce]

It's true that there are many other Zenaida Gonzales'...but this one is the ONLY one that was at the Sawgrass Apartments around the time Caylee went missing.
JMO

however, does this ZG wear a name tag stating "VISTED SAWGRASS APTS"?????

:cool:

best regards,
Pru

[day2day]

Does anyone know who Rich Granard is? He is on the list of witnesses. I don't recall his name?

He is not on my list. Maybe fbi?!

[kakax]

Or Cindy or Lee googled it looking for her.

Googling her name in July wouldn't provide her with the Sawgrass connection on June 17th.

IMO

No it wouldn't. We also need the times that Casey WASN"T with LE to see if she could have even done these searches on that day. The times would be important, she could have been out on the Crazy Casey Carpool at that time. Or being questioned.

It would have been a lot easier to discern if the searches were in June...but doesn't look like they were.

[st777jo]

If I was Amy's mom or dad I'd be calling NG and asking for equal time to do a teevee smackdown of Cindy just like Mr. Grund did. :D

I think I'd be banging on the A's door with my OWN hammer.

[Kathlb]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17581962/detail.html


Witness List Released In Casey Anthony Case
Sheriff's Officials Decide Anthonys Should Hold Vigils Inside

Good for LE!!! I have said that church, or inside their home is the best place for those vigils, not out in front of the cameras. Glad LE told them to go into the back yard or inside their home. MOO

[kakax]

No, it was July 16 on the home computer that LE confiscated. Point was made it may not have been Casey. IIRC she was with LE most of the day and then arrested. IMO, it was Cindy or Lee accessing Casey's account. JMO.



I know they were with her through the night, but at some point (time unknown as far as I know) they dropped her back off at the house. Then they came back after checking into a few things with her story. They took her to Universal and she didn't go home again. We need the times LOL! So greedy, we are!

[mosey2]

LE may have cleared her ... it's the connection that Casey put together that has confirmation ... and that will be part of any trial ... and if LE doesn't have a good reason for Casey to have that information, it will cause the prosecution problems at trial.

And LE should be investigating that connection ... how did Casey get that information. Sawgrass employees said they didn't recognize Casey ... it's not a coincidence, she had that information somehow.
Follow the evidence, not the theory, and perhaps they will find a way to discover if anyone else has knowledge.

IMO
I think this is where Annie and Dante will come in. It's curious that their interviews werent included in the discovery package. Saving them for more serious charges, I imagine.
According to Lee, Casey went on surveillance for a couple of days. I think I would call it stalking.

[rosejustrose]

She created the "Zanny" before that, and she found a real Zenaida for a babysitter, after? Isn't that a little too convenient? But , basically, Imp, I ask you, do you really see Casey hiring a babysitter, ever? I think she went with freebees or neglect when it came to child care.

IIRC, no one ever heard her full name until July 15/16. I think it was just a fluke Casey came up with Zanny when Rev. Grund confronted her about new babysitting arrangements. How it blossomed from there is anyone's guess. I don't think Casey will ever tell, IMO.

[impartial]

I will respect your opinion but I will disagree.
It doesn't matter really HOW Casey got the information or if she made up the name and then searched for information on her. All LE and the prosecution need to prove is that there was absolutely no connection between that ZFG and Casey Anthony. All they have to prove is that they did NOT know eachother. All they have to prove is that this ZFG was NOT Casey's nanny. All they have to prove is that this ZFG did not take Caylee. HOW Casey came up with the name or information doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things considering the elaborate lies Casey comes up with and the fact she had to search information on a ZFG the same day she was arrested.

if you want to get down to brass tacks on the matter. All that needs to be proven at all is that Casey was responsibe for her daughters disapperence or death when those charges are filed. Right at this time all they need to prove is that Casey was negletful and failed to report her child missing and that she lied to authorities during the course of the investigation.


It would be important if someone gave her that information. It's no coincidence IMO that Casey comes up with a ZFG and Sawgrass at the time that Caylee goes missing. I am not implicating ZFG ... I say investigate how she came up with that information. The employees said they didn't recognize photo's of Casey. There has been a theory of an accomplice batted around ...

IMO

[hamebone]

It's bad enough that Cindy accused Jesse, but Amy? Cindy doesn't even know Amy. She met her once. And Casey only knew Amy for a year, 6 months of which she was away, working on a cruise ship.
Not that I understand Cindy's theory of the crime in either case, mind you.

I cant even find words to write about how I feel

BUT I will try...:D

seriously, Cindy trying to blame JG and Amy says so much about who she is and maybe even why Casey is the way she is to a degree.

she is self-righteous ..

Cindy and Casey both have poison in their hearts thats why they can spew it out so easily...imo

[kakax]

Maybe she told Richard she had a nanny. He said, "What's her name?" Casey (thinking quickly) said, "Uh, Zanny." I believe it was just Zanny until it was discovered Caylee was missing. She gets on her computer and Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales who kidnapped my child 31 days ago was born.


I'm thinking you are right....

Another techie question...if she had gone on a friend's site that was a friend of ZFG, would that show in her written files?

[rosejustrose]

I think this is where Annie and Dante will come in. It's curious that their interviews werent included in the discovery package. Saving them for more serious charges, I imagine.
According to Lee, Casey went on surveillance for a couple of days. I think I would call it stalking.

I recall the same from Lee's interview. IIRC he laughed quite heartedly about the smell in the car, you know the smell, his niece:cuss: JMO.

[nana6]

Absolutely nothing relates to this case. That guy just wants to defend the anthonys to no end. Makes me sick to read post after post defending that "family"

Hi, I am just getting on here tonight and was gone all last week. What guy are you speaking of please?

[aubrey04]

I've heard several times that one of Casey's boyfriends lived across the street from the Sawgrass Apartments. If that's true, Casey could have gone over and glanced at the guestbook and saw ZG's name there. IMO

Yeah. Annie Dowling and Dante.. (I forgot his last name, something with a S)..

ETA - it is Annie Downing, not Dowling.. and Dante Salati

[kakax]

Exactly :)

Could be, but there has to be a reason she used this name...I think she saw her at Sawgrass somehow. I also think she knew some things about her that she could have gotten from her myspace. I could be wrong, probably am, I usually am lol!


ETA...been a long time since I saw you last...hope you are doing well!

[mosey2]

Or Cindy or Lee googled it looking for her.

Googling her name in July wouldn't provide her with the Sawgrass connection on June 17th.

IMO

My theory is Casey originally wanted to pin Caylees disappearance on the ZG that looked at Sawgrass, but did an about face when certain facts about her were "missing" from her un-memory. Number of kids, background, things a normal person would know about their babysitter. Casey had to rethink it on July 15th. At that time I think she realized it would have to turn into a wild-goose chase to buy time.

[barskin&co.]

Maybe she told Richard she had a nanny. He said, "What's her name?" Casey (thinking quickly) said, "Uh, Zanny." I believe it was just Zanny until it was discovered Caylee was missing. She gets on her computer and Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales who kidnapped my child 31 days ago was born.

Richard is the one (the only one) person who claimed she used the name Zenaida a few months ago. Just Zenaida, mind you, not the full-out Zenaida BlahBlah Hyphen Blah which debuted when Casey was speaking to the 911 operator.

[rosejustrose]

It would be important if someone gave her that information. It's no coincidence IMO that Casey comes up with a ZFG and Sawgrass at the time that Caylee goes missing. I am not implicating ZFG ... I say investigate how she came up with that information. The employees said they didn't recognize photo's of Casey. There has been a theory of an accomplice batted around ...

IMO


IIRC Dante and/or Annie lived at Sawgrass. When LE first tried Annie she was out of town but calld them when she returned, IIRC. I'm thinking that the reason we're not hearing or seeing what these two have to say or said is because perhaps one of them gave Casey the name and let LE know it. That would be explosive information to the investigation IMO and certainly something LE would not want made public but more importantly they would not want the Anthonys to know that. IMO, if the As found that out the next two potential "kidnappers' would be dante and Annie. JMO>

[barskin&co.]

My theory is Casey originally wanted to pin Caylees disappearance on the ZG that looked at Sawgrass, but did an about face when certain facts about her were "missing" from her un-memory. Number of kids, background, things a normal person would know about their babysitter. Casey had to rethink it on July 15th. At that time I think she realized it would have to turn into a wild-goose chase to buy time.

Good thinking!

[bchand]

She filled out a guest card, not guest book.

Still doesn't explain Ricardo's statement that Casey told him in February 2008 that her nanny's name was Zenaida.

I'm starting to wonder that perhaps a Zanny/Zenaida did babysit for Caylee at some point, perhaps in 2006 ... not as a nanny, but perhaps once or twice. Or maybe someone she met in the park with Caylee.

I was totally surprised how many Zenaida Gonzales' there are.

IMO

Back from the airport and in no way caught up but IIRC Ricardo said Casey referred to the babysitter as Zenita. Different name entirely.

[impartial]

Maybe she told Richard she had a nanny. He said, "What's her name?" Casey (thinking quickly) said, "Uh, Zanny." I believe it was just Zanny until it was discovered Caylee was missing. Casey then gets on her computer and Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales who kidnapped my child 31 days ago was born.


Ricardo, in his interview, stated that when he first started dating Casey in February, she told him that the name Zanny stood for Zenaida (in the interviews, it is spelled Zenita).

IMO

[babblefishie]

That was already posted on the board here over the weekend. imo

Yes -- and we got some flack for it too! Were told we weren't reading the data correctly re: Zanaida search conducted in June... I feel kinda vindicated!

Casey is going away for a long time and her parents will have to "hushamouth" or they could find some charges on their plate as well... I feel that Lee and George have told the truth, but Cindy -- she tells whatever truth suits the story she wants to believe.
:rolleyes:

[rosejustrose]

dude on NG said some searches went clear back to May. He said it was all planned, then another guy on NG said no way could casey orchestrate this. :shrug:huh? One cancels the other one out.

I hope we have a poster that will attend this trial.

I can't remember his name but he said there was no indication that Casey could think her way around the corner. LOL. Obviously not one who is of the opinion that Casey is intelligent. Padilla seems to think she's a devious planner, IMO.

[day2day]

Where is the witness list? I can't find it on that link?

Just a video here. I dont think the list has been released. If it has i haven't seen it.

[impartial]

Back from the airport and in no way caught up but IIRC Ricardo said Casey referred to the babysitter as Zenita. Different name entirely.


I thought that too, until the other interviews spelled it as Zenita as well.

IMO

[summer4meplz]

The ZFG that is suing was declared by Casey NOT to be the Zenaida she was referring to, before any of the information became public.

Casey indicated Zenaida was 26 years of age and had no children.

The initial reports were that Zenaida didn't exist. Then it was reported that a Zenaida was at Sawgrass in April. We were all surprised when it was discovered through the document dump that a Zenaida did exist, and was at Sawgrass on June 17.

I still say there is something to investigate here .. not that Zenaida necessarily has anything to do with Caylee missing ... but the connection of ZFG and Sawgrass is the only thing of Casey's story that has a paper trail. How did Casey put that connection together ... did someone at Sawgrass give her that information, and if so, why.

Also, when LE interviewed her, they were under the impression Zenaida was at Sawgrass in April ... why didn't she correct them? It's a valid question. Why was she looking for an apartment when she was unemployed. Why did Sawgrass's computer records reveal she was there in April (the computer records is why LE thought she was there in April). Was she there more than once? These are all valid questions.



IMO

Recently, Dante answered questions on another board, but another poster claimed to also live in Sawgrass and Dante asked him if he lived in the back because he had never or would never go to the back....it just kinda struck me odd....I have ALWAYS thought Sawgrass and the apt with a bunch of girls that all have different schedules...and the empty apt. with the banged up door....there is SOMETHING WRONG ..maybe?...imo

[babblefishie]

My theory is Casey originally wanted to pin Caylees disappearance on the ZG that looked at Sawgrass, but did an about face when certain facts about her were "missing" from her un-memory. Number of kids, background, things a normal person would know about their babysitter. Casey had to rethink it on July 15th. At that time I think she realized it would have to turn into a wild-goose chase to buy time.

Hey Mosey -- I also think that Casey may have seen Zanaida AT the apartment and rummaged in her car while she was looking at apt... Zanaida may have been saved by the fact she didn't actually live there.

[frances1]

I can't remember his name but he said there was no indication that Casey could think her way around the corner. LOL. Obviously not one who is of the opinion that Casey is intelligent. Padilla seems to think she's a devious planner, IMO.

I think people of even just average intelligence can still have a devious mind.

[frances1]

Ok I just realized, its over and what is Jesses dads big truthful revelation? I just don't dig this attention-seeking behavior by these people.

I think in his mind he thinks that whenever he speaks it is "truthful revelation".

[nana6]

nice and calm in here tonight I think I will stay for awhile and learn what I have missed lately.:)

[aubrey04]

She created the "Zanny" before that, and she found a real Zenaida for a babysitter, after? Isn't that a little too convenient? But , basically, Imp, I ask you, do you really see Casey hiring a babysitter, ever? I think she went with freebees or neglect when it came to child care.

She suckered poor Lauren Gibbs into providing FREE childcare for her until Gibbs found out that Casey wasn't working but partying when she was taking care of Caylee.

She's a user and abuser..through and through. That was addressed to Impartial but I will answer.. I definitely think there is a link we are missing that gave Casey the idea to use the name Zenaida Gonzalez..Something is missing... but I doubt that they ever met one another.

JMO

[mosey2]

Hey Mosey -- I also think that Casey may have seen Zanaida AT the apartment and rummaged in her car while she was looking at apt... Zanaida may have been saved by the fact she didn't actually live there.
I think when Casey saw her go up the stairs to look at 210, she assumed she lived there. I also believe Casey followed her that day. If we were privileged to know, we might find out that the real Z went to the other apartment where Casey said she used to live (the seniors only units)
Lee said Casey told him that she was doing surveillance.
The real Z will be a part of the murder trial (for the prosecution), that's for sure!

[kakax]

Hi to you too..........hope all is well on your end..........I agree, there is a connection to how she got her name ,no doubt ,but it was just the NAME , no intent to defame and was quickly discounted as the ZFG early on ,so the lawsuit to me is pointless, no intent as well appears nothing more then a publicity stunt ,hence what can ZFG recover in damages against those who have nothing and the Attorney what is his take $0.00 ..........

KAKAX ....this is from me to you ...Do you think I am still LM ,sorry I could not resist. I have no residual hangups from THAT ,talk about defamation!!!! LOL


But is it just coiincidence that a ZFG went to the Apts. that Casey was using as her drop off spot? Maybe Casey thought she lived there. I don't know, but I bet LE does.

On the other issue....seeing you here makes me think maybe not, but I really did think you were Linda rofl! Good to see you anyway!! Glad you came back!

[day2day]

And another thing ...this Attorney of Zenaidas mus be banking on future funds from the anthonys' in some manner ,or is he really filing suit for ZFG for publicity...I'll go for the later ,because the Anthony's have nothing ...think about it .

OH i think they have quite alot. They have money to hire Najeme, Kobe, ride in limos, bodyguards, and on and on. I think they are already makin out like bandits. jmo

[summer4meplz]

Can anyone figure out what the "spotlight of truth" was?

spotlight maybe being on cindy as a liar and manipulator willing to blame 2 innocent ppl for the actions of her daughter? just my guess...

[babblefishie]

I think when Casey saw her go up the stairs to look at 210, she assumed she lived there. I also believe Casey followed her that day. If we were privileged to know, we might find out that the real Z went to the other apartment where Casey said she used to live (the seniors only units)
Lee said Casey told him that she was doing surveillance.
The real Z will be a part of the murder trial (for the prosecution), that's for sure!

Yep ITA -- Casey thought Z lived there. Dear lord, what if she had? I think it would have been much harder for her to establish her innocence!

[day2day]

nice and calm in here tonight I think I will stay for awhile and learn what I have missed lately.:)

hi nana -so nice to see ya!! :seeya:
Mr Grund was on Nancy's -he was a gentleman
Lenny was giving Tim Miller props! You go Lenny !!LOL

[kakax]

OH i think they have quite alot. They have money to hire Najeme, Kobe, ride in limos, bodyguards, and on and on. I think they are already makin out like bandits. jmo


And from what I understand, this atty already has made a name for himself. More than I can say for Baez!! KR, you think we need to bring Joe down here to defend Casey??? LOL!

[nana6]

I just do not see any spot light of truth on tonights show NG.. I was all set up to see a huge break in the case perhaps, and was not impressed with anything I heard. What do ya'll think? Did I miss something big tonight?

[impartial]

Speaking of it being nice and calm in here.

Last night there were some posts about a pm from DG that indicated something about Samantha ... double secret probation type of posting ;) ... I really didn't understand what was going on.

Anyone know?


TIA

[kakax]

LOL ...me being me ,HOW could anyone think that ...really YOU did ? hammer its a rubber Hammer all in fun.


I did I did ... I give you permission to hammer and :punch: me LOL!

[mosey2]

Hi Mosey.......just got her after NG with that in mind.......you make a good point I had not thought of. Also do we know for sure she was searching ZG before Caylee went missing?........I know we have heard that but just checking if it is fact.

Jesse and his family have been put through the ringer from the time Casey was PG.......How dare anyone do this to them? My dad always taught us to honor our good name......My dad would be loaded for bear if someone did this to one of us or our family.

After tonight and hearing LP and Mr G.......I think Jesse has one hell of a lawsuit against Cindy. Those dollars she was probably counting in blood money...GONE BABY GONE!! Florida is a homestead state no one can take their house but he can sure go after future monies......And by God I hope they get that family under oath in a depo.....which would be PRICELESS!! I bet his phone is ringing OFF the hook with the top Florida Civil Attorneys........IT WILL NOT COST HIM A CENT!!! ......This may not be the type of family to sue.......Some folks do not believe it it but this may be an exception to the rule.......HOPE SO!!!
Hey TREE:seeya: I havent seen anything that says Casey searched for ZFG before Caylee went missing. I could be wrong.
I really dont think Mr Grund would sue Cindy. She's a grieving GM, and I dont think he falls in the popular catagory of "sue happy folks" People know the truth, Jesse knows the truth, He knows the truth, and so does God. Whats the point? He seems to be a forgiving guy...

[day2day]

Hi Mosey.......just got her after NG with that in mind.......you make a good point I had not thought of. Also do we know for sure she was searching ZG before Caylee went missing?........I know we have heard that but just checking if it is fact.

Jesse and his family have been put through the ringer from the time Casey was PG.......How dare anyone do this to them? My dad always taught us to honor our good name......My dad would be loaded for bear if someone did this to one of us or our family.

After tonight and hearing LP and Mr G.......I think Jesse has one hell of a lawsuit against Cindy. Those dollars she was probably counting in blood money...GONE BABY GONE!! Florida is a homestead state no one can take their house but he can sure go after future monies......And by God I hope they get that family under oath in a depo.....which would be PRICELESS!! I bet his phone is ringing OFF the hook with the top Florida Civil Attorneys........IT WILL NOT COST HIM A CENT!!! ......This may not be the type of family to sue.......Some folks do not believe it it but this may be an exception to the rule.......HOPE SO!!!
They don't seem the type of family that would sue?! BUT-if he does-i sure wouldn't blame him. jmo

[impartial]

That predates Sawgrass, doesn't it?

Yes, it does.

[kakax]

Speaking of it being nice and calm in here.

Last night there were some posts about a pm from DG that indicated something about Samantha ... double secret probation type of posting ;) ... I really didn't understand what was going on.

Anyone know?


TIA


You think any of US would know? LOL!

[aubrey04]

Richard is the one (the only one) person who claimed she used the name Zenaida a few months ago. Just Zenaida, mind you, not the full-out Zenaida BlahBlah Hyphen Blah which debuted when Casey was speaking to the 911 operator.

No. Ricardo Morales is the one who said he heard Casey talk about Zenaida.

Page 101

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

[kakax]

JT better stay right where he is on this case........:)

ROFL! Well the profile fits, pretty young woman in distress...

Is he still working for the appeal? I know O/T. PM if you want.

[margaret kep]

Hey, there's a pic of Annie Downing in Orlando on My Space. Wonder if that's CA's best friend. :shrug:

[day2day]

And from what I understand, this atty already has made a name for himself. More than I can say for Baez!! KR, you think we need to bring Joe down here to defend Casey??? LOL!

Oh heck yea he has. I bet he isn't doin this for sh$ts and giggles thats for sure! jmo

[mosey2]

Speaking of it being nice and calm in here.

Last night there were some posts about a pm from DG that indicated something about Samantha ... double secret probation type of posting ;) ... I really didn't understand what was going on.

Anyone know?


TIA
Do you have me on Iggy??:shrug:

[aubrey04]

Ok I just realized, its over and what is Jesses dads big truthful revelation? I just don't dig this attention-seeking behavior by these people.

*** crickets ***

he revealed nothing new.. Surprise, surprise.

[day2day]

I don't know anything about it, but DG is no longer posting here.

How do you know DG isn't posting anymore?!

[Joan Weiss]

And another thing ...this Attorney of Zenaidas mus be banking on future funds from the anthonys' in some manner ,or is he really filing suit for ZFG for publicity...I'll go for the later ,because the Anthony's have nothing ...think about it .How easily you dismiss this woman's right to respect and dignity. I'm thinking about something, that's for sure. imo

[kakax]

Yes!!! She saw her go up the stairs and assumed she lived there.

But how would she have know that this ZFG would be going there. Just a coincidence?

BTW I agree with you, just trying to figure out how it would have worked!

[Joan Weiss]

Yep ITA -- Casey thought Z lived there. Dear lord, what if she had? I think it would have been much harder for her to establish her innocence!Yep, and maybe Casey thought she did. Set her up. I could buy that. imo

[Pruddennce]

another person connected to sawgrass, who knows Casey, but hasnt seen her in years and was never a friend, is Katie Robinson. she lives at Sawgrass.

she is actually a friend of Matthew Crisp. and Crisp lives close to Sawgrass and apparently visited there.

he met up with her and Tony on 6/19, no Caylee.

Casey met up with Matthew Crisp on 7/7, no caylee, Caylee was in Sanford, she said. and that is when he saw her driving the dark colored SUV type vehicle. (possibly Cindy's)

LE was going to call Katie and ask for her #.

wondering if Matthew ever talked about Katie and where she lived.

IMO, its no coincidence Casey chose that apt complex. it was also across the street from Ricardo's. Dante also lived there at one time.

this is an interesting compilation of locations...not sure how accurate this list is:

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112207365672542480712.000455b4884de4fdc7516

best regards,
Pru

[Joan Weiss]

Joan... she went on TEE VEE today.No, she didn't. The President pre-empted her. Does the Today show pay for interviews?

[day2day]

*** crickets ***

he revealed nothing new.. Surprise, surprise.

did he actually say -new? i think he said..TRUTH

Stay tuned. On Monday night the spotlight of Truth will shine and

you can decide for yourself what you want to believe or not. Then it's

up to you what you want to do with that Truth. All I can do is expose

the unfruitful works of darkness and bring them out into the Light.

[mosey2]

But how would she have know that this ZFG would be going there. Just a coincidence?

BTW I agree with you, just trying to figure out how it would have worked!
Zanny didnt have a last name until the real Z turned up at Sawgrass. All Casey had to do was find someone named Zenaida in the area and follow her. Casey assumed she lived at the apts. I dont know where Casey first notices her, She could have heard Zenaida's kids calling her by her first name while they were both shopping at Target

[steffaroob4]

Does anyone remember what time the gas can run-in happened between GA and Casey on the 24th?

[impartial]

Do you have me on Iggy??:shrug:


Of course not :)


Sorry, did I miss responding to a post? I am kind of running in between posting, making dinner, eating, and finding out about the bail out that didn't happen.


:seeya:

[summer4meplz]

Does anyone know who Rich Granard is? He is on the list of witnesses. I don't recall his name?

do you think that might be the rick she had such great sex with? per her text that i never got to see....

[Pruddennce]

There is also a Pic of that Annie on a link that someone posted on the earlier thread from today I believe or early in this thread. Sorry can't remember who posted it but I remember the link to a site with pics and short bio of everyone mentioned in the case so far.

here's a location of that list:
http://monica111466.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/the-anthony-saga-players/

best regards,
Pru

[aubrey04]

Was DG banned?

Nope. You can go to post #52 in this thread.. She posted and her name is marked, "registered user".. not "banned". So she's still an active member (as of now).

ETA- I think she just got sent to time-out that one day, but not banned.

imo

[frances1]

Does anyone have a link to the list of 85 names to be called as witnesses? All I can find is an article saying that a list was released.

[Joan Weiss]

See ya later. :seeya:

[dtviewer]

Speaking of it being nice and calm in here.

Last night there were some posts about a pm from DG that indicated something about Samantha ... double secret probation type of posting ;) ... I really didn't understand what was going on.

Anyone know?


TIA

:seeya: Ido, I do!!

'Daddysgirl' made an unfounded, false post trying to insinuate something sinister about Mr Grund. In the post she mentioned Mr Grund now believes 'Sammy has Caylee', when in reality Mr Grund said that he believes Caylee may be with 'Sammy', his dog that died in December. (He thinks they may both be in heaven)
When posters (myself included) pointed out that DG was twisting Mr Grunds words, DG sent a PM to the poster Ray with some supposed super double secret info on who 'Sammy' really is.
Ray then made the comment on the board that if posters "knew who 'Sammy' really was they wouldnt be laughing".
When many posters asked her who Sammy really is, or if there is any proof there really IS a Sammy, Ray said she couldnt/wouldnt tell for a variety of reasons....
Thats the short summary....:confused:

[mosey2]

Of course not :)


Sorry, did I miss responding to a post? I am kind of running in between posting, making dinner, eating, and finding out about the bail out that didn't happen.


:seeya:
Whew! Good, cause I like that your brain is chock-full of really great stuff. Dont worry about answering my posts. At least not until an intelligent one comes out. LOL

[margaret kep]

There is also a Pic of that Annie on a link that someone posted on the earlier thread from today I believe or early in this thread. Sorry can't remember who posted it but I remember the link to a site with pics and short bio of everyone mentioned in the case so far.

Thanks Lost - ooh, I was so excited thinking I was first one to discover Annie D. I do so want to help in this little angel's life. My heart fell apart when I saw the video of little angel eith ggf and she just grabbed ggf around neck then gave him a kiss. How Sweet:rose:

[day2day]

:seeya: Ido, I do!!

'Daddysgirl' made an unfounded, false post trying to insinuate something sinister about Mr Grund. In the post she mentioned Mr Grund now believes 'Sammy has Caylee', when in reality Mr Grund said that he believes Caylee may be with 'Sammy', his dog that died in December. (He thinks they may both be in heaven)
When posters (myself included) pointed out that DG was twisting Mr Grunds words, DG sent a PM to the poster Ray with some supposed super double secret info on who 'Sammy' really is.
Ray then made the comment on the board that if posters "knew who 'Sammy' really was they wouldnt be laughing".
When many posters asked her who Sammy really is, or if there is any proof there really IS a Sammy, Ray said she couldnt/wouldnt tell for a variety of reasons....
Thats the short summary....:confused:

MMhmm....the mysterious Sammy....

[aubrey04]

Has anyone figured out who the fellow is.. that is in a lot of the "racy" Casey pictures.. He goes by "Lake Vaj".. He's supposedly 39 years old, according to myspace.. and hangs out with these guys, including Casey, who are almost young enough to be his children, but I digress... Has anyone figured out who that guy is? Because I keep thinking that he is one of the people whose police interview has been released.

I would love to match a name with that face.. well, if he has any association with the case thus far... if he's not part of the equation then nevermind.

[kakax]

Not really such a huge coincidence, because her name wasn't Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales before Sawgrass. It was just Zenaida (Zenita). After Sawgrass, it became Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales.


Gotcha! Makes sense.

[kakax]

Has anyone figured out who the fellow is.. that is in a lot of the "racy" Casey pictures.. He goes by "Lake Vaj".. He's supposedly 39 years old, according to myspace.. and hangs out with these guys, including Casey, who are almost young enough to be his children, but I digress... Has anyone figured out who that guy is? Because I keep thinking that he is one of the people whose police interview has been released.

I would love to match a name with that face.. well, if he has any association with the case thus far... if he's not part of the equation then nevermind.

There is a thread at the place that must not be spoken of....where a guy goes and tells all about Lake Vaj.