MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 29th 2008

[callmetree]

:seeya: good morning all. look forward to all your great post today.

[AnnInOhio]

Good morning. Thanks for the new thread. Does Coldwater have to to the "sticky"?

[warrkat]

Good morning.

I'm having the last of my summer canteloupe; will gladly share, but don't touch my coffee!

What time is court, please? I have to catch up on my Anthony investigation tapes before I listen to OJ.

thank you.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Not sure if you all are watching, but InSession is covering McClinton's testimony..He does look daper, he is not going on and on when he answers, and certainly not using the vocabulary we can hear on his tape..!!

Caldwell's testimony about tape of Criminalists at the room, I didnt find what they said offensive, or vindictive towards OJ. I didnt hear foul language, I didnt hear any covert plans to set up anybody, I didnt hear
any off color terms used and so on. I do find that Yale taking offense to any comments there disengenuous..OJ jokes are well known, and OJ relishes in the recognition by them!!

LMS:eek:

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=barry'sgirl;12203416]good morning girls!

..."girls"..??? <checking...nope>

i splurged and made us a big breakfast today. we have bacon, biscuits, some fresh fruit, oj and of course lots of coffee. help yourselves!

YUMS...!! <<elbows way to table>>
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Actually, just had my V-8 and ready for coffee. Watching stock market tank...225 points in last 15 minutes.

I know tommorow the Court is dark. Supposed to be 1/2 day today, if I recall ??


very male
bearwds

[Fallen Angel]

Good Morning Eveyrone

IMO the ONLY way OJ can even THINK about getting off with this crime is if he gets on the stand and says EVERYONES LYING......

[bearwds]

haha, sorry bear! didnt mean to call you a girl, lol.
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HAR....!! Know ya didn't Wendy...lol

Regular 8-am convening for live today ?? Checking Friday's testimony by Mac on Tru right now.


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Good Morning Eveyrone

IMO the ONLY way OJ can even THINK about getting off with this crime is if he gets on the stand and says EVERYONES LYING......

I, like you would just love for OJ to get on that stand, but alas (LOL) I doubt he will, there are just too many issues to explain, and his answers would be less than credible to me anyway. His testimony in the Civil Case proved to sink him for that jury!! It all depends on his ego ..will he or wont he want to do yet another acting job??

LMS:eek:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Chertoff just said that the defense has a good case, and dont need OJ..He seems to think there is alot of reasonable doubt???..I would like to hear his list of possible reasonable doubt issues!!

LMS

[RGG]

I'd want to hear that as well. So far, I know there were guns, and "nobody is leaving this room", and I'm taking my "stuff".

OJ and CJ won't testify - too tricky for either of them on the stand.

[AnnInOhio]

allright you picky people, i made some iced tea too for those that wont drink OJ, lol.

Thanks. Sorry that I find OJ so distasteful and hard to swallow. It leaves a bad tasted in my mouth and makes me feel like I'm gonna barf!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

It appears that Grasso is going to do the cross of McClinton. It appears that Yales stays away from witnesses who know his (Yales) activities behind the scenes and avoids confronting those witnesses. Am I wrong, as thats the impression I get..?Did Yale cross Stewart?, cant remember!

Oh, I really hope that Yale gets looked into following this trial..His hands are so dirty in OJ's dealings, I dont think a whole bottle of Purell will wipe the mud off him!!

LMS:cuss:

[JBL]

It appears that Grasso is going to do the cross of McClinton. It appears that Yales stays away from witnesses who know his (Yales) activities behind the scenes and avoids confronting those witnesses. Am I wrong, as thats the impression I get..?Did Yale cross Stewart?, cant remember!

Oh, I really hope that Yale gets looked into following this trial..His hands are so dirty in OJ's dealings, I dont think a whole bottle of Purell will wipe the mud off him!!

LMS:cuss:

Yale did cross on Beardsley and Ehrlich.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Yale did cross on Beardsley and Ehrlich.

Thats what I thought, he only challenges those that he knows wont "OUT" him..Hummm

BTW, thank you for your response to my post yesterday, I couldnt TY there because thread was closed...so TY, I appreciate it!

LMS:seeya:

[JBL]

Thats what I thought, he only challenges those that he knows wont "OUT" him..Hummm

BTW, thank you for your response to my post yesterday, I couldnt TY there because thread was closed...so TY, I appreciate it!

LMS:seeya:


YW.

Sorry couldn't help with the witness list. Guesses anyone?

What happened to the bail bondsman and his tape especially in light that the defense is calling Beardsley back that he was not "proded" into changing his testimony. Will that bailsbondsman now pop up with the tape that OJ was in fact trying to get a message to CJ. Basically to show OJ is not above trying to contact other witness's /defendants. He was returned to jail for that and had his bail doubled before he was again released.

[JBL]

http://www.ktla.com/livevideo_channelb

It's on attorney's talking to the judge. FYI

[Lyndawitha"Y]

http://www.ktla.com/livevideo_channelb

It's on attorney's talking to the judge. FYI

TY..but doesnt work for me..here's another one:

http://www.thelegaledge.com/index.php?livecover

LMS

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Geesh, I am going to miss some of this...Electrician coming over..Rats!! Pleeeze keep notes guys and gals!! TYIA

LMS

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=JBL
He was returned to jail for that and had his bail doubled before he was again released.[/QUOTE]
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That's right....forgot about that..!!

Did McClinton ever sell his tapes to tabloids as he intended ??


bearwds

[Avalon]

Hello all -- has anyone mentioned how annoying OJ's dumb "who, me?" look is? We heard the tapes, OJ. We know you're not just some naive bumpkin who has NO idea why you're here. We know your standard adjective is "m***er f***ing". We know your "friends" are a bunch of low-lifes and thugs. Your little innocent "look" isn't working.

[warrkat]

Geesh, I am going to miss some of this...Electrician coming over..Rats!! Pleeeze keep notes guys and gals!! TYIA

LMS

Your electrician insists on turning off the power? :chicken:

[JBL]

That haw haw haw haw haw is the infamous OJ laugh.

[psbperu]

Good Morning All:

Again thanks for all the updates...have been in Canada & now back home in Florida, able to get on computer now.

Barry's Girl: Is that Barry's Irish Tea you are serving?


Boy I love this stuff about the guns "blasting" & OJ laughing at the same time. Sure...OJ didn't know about the guns...unbelieveable.

[Avalon]

I like McClinton. I miss his powder-blue suit though. I find it so amusing that he tries to outwit the defense and has that little Cheshire cat grin. Unlike Walter Alexander, who was up there with his Bible....uh, please. OJ really attracted some high-class friends in his post-murder-trial life.

Edited 'cause I didn't really mean "likee".

[JONOTWO]

Grasso starts the tape''revision'' explanaition by saying- ''for example, look on page 4 where it says- wait a minute, it is actually on page 3''!

MY COMMENT--WHEN GRASSO SAYS PAGE 4, LOOK ON PAGE 3, AND IF HE SAYS PAGE 3, LOOK ON PAGE (TBD) ???

This line of questioning is simply trying to raise doubt about who said what, obviously. Does it matter- or are the words the real deal, not the speaker??

[JBL]

Grasso has taken this to a new bore!

NO NO NO NO ok it was McClinton. BINGO! Your right, he admitted blah blah blah blah

How about a point!!

[JBL]

hahahahahaha Grasso - I wanna play the tape, I wanna play the clip waahh wahhhh wahhhh The state played lots wah wah wah

Good Grief!

[JBL]

Geez - someone get the hook

[Avalon]

Wonder how Yalie-boy feels about his co-counsel's riveting cross?

[JBL]

If I were a juror I would probably be detained as I would go off on who ever insisted on playing these tapes again!

I'm so embarrassed for Grasso. He's just scrambling. Or as he so eloquently put it - I wanna play the tapes to - like the state did.

Asking about SHREK!!! word WTH

why why why why......hammer

[bearwds]

JBL, Thank you for your much needed comedy-relief, sorely tempted to spike my coffee but can :lol: now~
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Aww...go ahead. Will make the nasty recordings more palatable.

Appears they are continuing to focus on clouding the minds of jurors by "he said" ...doesn't really matter. Doesn't matter HOW many transcripts they have...with a word changed. Like "media vs.TV".

OJ asked for "heat" and got it. Armed robbery.

Hope the jury will not buy into this obtuse tactic.


bearwds

[MOMMOM]

If I were a juror I would probably be detained as I would go off on who ever insisted on playing these tapes again!

I'm so embarrassed for Grasso. He's just scrambling. Or as he so eloquently put it - I wanna play the tapes to - like the state did.

Asking about SHREK!!! word WTH

why why why why......hammer

do you know if that is OJ's girlfriend Christy (the blonde behind OJ) and is it his sister next to her? Do u know if that is his daugher Arnel down at the end of the row?

[Avalon]

HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR (me laughing at McClinton now asking Grasso questions)...and he's answering them....

Galanter must be having a fit...to himself.

[RGG]

Oooh - McClinton got sassy right back!

[JBL]

do you know if that is OJ's girlfriend Christy (the blonde behind OJ) and is it his sister next to her? Do u know if that is his daugher Arnel down at the end of the row?

Christy is not the blonde behind OJ - one of OJ's sisters is there. I haven't seen Arnelle at all.

hahahaha McClinton is fed up :cool:

[rulovlaw]

I think McClinton is being WAY too defensive here .. It only makes it look like he has sonething to hide.. And makes him look as if he is TRYING to do whatever it takes to make OJ look guilty.
If everything is as he says all he has to do is tell the truth instead of being a Smart@$$

[RGG]

Wish they'd get to line 12 quicker than what they're doing. Geeeze

[warrkat]

I can't understand these tapes at all.

[JBL]

I think McClinton is being WAY too defensive here .. It only makes it look like he has sonething to hide.. And makes him look as if he is TRYING to do whatever it takes to make OJ look guilty.
If everything is as he says all he has to do is tell the truth instead of being a Smart@$$

Grasso has annoyed me and I'm being a smarta$$ - I can assure you there is nothing I can add to make OJ look any more guilty then OJ asking if McClinton had his piece in the hallway.

Grasso is an annoying bore and currently a waste of time. I'd rather be raked over the coals then bored to death.

[JBL]

IMO McClinton has stopped listening all together or has reached the point of half listening to Grasso's repetitious boring questions that so far has something to do with the price of rice in china.

[JBL]

Who's on first - what's on second hahahaha

Alexander made a ranting loon out of Yale , Now Mclinton is making fun of Grasso's cross.

:lol:

[JBL]

no no no no :no:

That's my kids names hahahahaha! (or at least what they thought it was when they were younger)

I'm sorry but this is monotomous!

[Details]

He seems like he's being very careful and thinking the questions through. A good thing to do when questioned by any attorney - they exist in no small part to mix you up, ask a question to get the answer they want from you. You've got to listen and carefully be sure you are answering the right question, accurately.

[psbperu]

"ain't nothing" like the real thing baby!....lol

[MOMMOM]

Christy is not the blonde behind OJ - one of OJ's sisters is there. I haven't seen Arnelle at all.

hahahaha McClinton is fed up :cool:


Are you sure that is not Christy next to OJ's sister?

[Details]

Frankly, I don't GET this trial at all. All the conspirators as well as OJ should be locked up. They were involved in a crime and deserve punishment. This trial shouldn't be about revenge, but obviously it is. People don't care about thug-on-thug violence. They do care about locking up OJ. Great, let's get OJ off the streets but not due to trumped up charges. Sorry, I know you'll be throwing tomatoes but this trial reeks. :flamemad:You say it over and over again - but Fromong is no thug, not a thing to say he is, and people do care about thug on thug violence. Because it never stops there, and having committed a crime in your past doesn't mean we should throw that person away.

And if they should all be locked up, why do you then call this trumped up charges?

[vonna]

IMO McClinton has stopped listening all together or has reached the point of half listening to Grasso's repetitious boring questions that so far has something to do with the price of rice in china.

This describes myself!! I'm glad I'm not on the stand. I feel sorry for the jury. There she goes again - Jamie who finds everyone guilty but the defendant.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Are you sure that is not Christy next to OJ's sister?

Hey got a few minutes..reprieve to post....LOL..Christy is still in Florida, recovering from her injuries..she had broken legs or something..this blond you speak of has no casts, and is not limping...She's either Defense behind scene worker, or OJ's Vegas Squeeze??

LMS:)

[MOMMOM]

Christy is not the blonde behind OJ - one of OJ's sisters is there. I haven't seen Arnelle at all.

hahahaha McClinton is fed up :cool:

Are u sure that is not Christy????????

[JBL]

Are you sure that is not Christy next to OJ's sister?

Positive it's not her I got a clear view behind OJ just a second ago who btw looks like he's catching 40 winks.

[JBL]

OH MY GOD SYMANTICS!

He used the word pocket instead of holster GEEZ LOUISE!

IMO I'd rule out hankies, wallet, tic tacs. What else could he have been talking about.

[JBL]

For the love of all creatures great and small. Grasso needs to say no more questions he's finished.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

OH MY GOD SYMANTICS!

He used the word pocket instead of holster GEEZ LOUISE!

IMO I'd rule out hankies, wallet, tic tacs. What else could he have been talking about.

Geesh..Grasso is not helping with this cross, he is confusing and disjoiunted..OJ looks bored and confused, and keeps looking at the jury to see their reactions ..me thinks he hopes they get confused..LOL

LMS:punch:

[MOMMOM]

Are u sure that is not Christy????????

Why isn't Christy there and his friend that got married that night?

[kate482000]

Do you think one of the juries would get in trouble if he yanked the tape from Grasso and rammed it down his throat? biggrin:

[kate482000]

Do you think one of the juries would get in trouble if he yanked the tape from Grasso and rammed it down his throat? biggrin

[Details]

The judge must have been worried about that - she's giving them a break. The tape is safe - for the moment.

[RGG]

What kept the either side from getting a voice-recognition done on any of these tapes??:shrug:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Why isn't Christy there and his friend that got married that night?

Scotto is not there because he will be testifying..and Christy is not there because she is recovering from a serious car accident..Given the badmouthing OJ has been doing about Christy, why would she want to be there to back this thug anyway!!

LMS

[Details]

What kept the either side from getting a voice-recognition done on any of these tapes??:shrug:I think you need a significant sample. They could say that it's OJ's voice on the tapes, McClinton's, Stewarts, etc. - but to say which line in a somewhat fuzzy tape, belongs to which speaker, I think might be not technically possible - at least not possible for an expert to say with any significant percentage of certainty. Defense attorneys would have a field day with that, asking what the normal required sample size is, how sure are they, etc. Better for the witnesses to just say this is or is not my voice.

[bearwds]

My earlier question about whether McClinton ever did sell his tapes to a tabloid as he planned, was not answered. Maybe the new folks signing on board know ??

Christy, to my recolection is still in Flordia with 2 broken legs she sustained while running across a freeway.


bearwds

[JBL]

Lonnie and Marta LOL maybe he kept GUM in his pocket hahahaha

Yes, that was the important question OJ wanted an answer to. You didn't show your GUM. You didn't pull your piece (of gum) out.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

In looking at some of the charges..one has been proven in spades..and that is consipiracy to commit a robbery ...OJ's own voice stipulates that "He has someone on the inside" which means that he placed (Riccio" there in the setup..

next, "Heat'.."Piece"..OJ's own mouth..indicates his afore knowledge of firearms

Gang in that room..OJ's voice there, with speaking role..so cant claim it was someone else..or his evil twin..not affable OJ???LOL

Discussion of his stuff along with the term memorabillia..and personal family pics not there..but took everything else that was there...That is robbery.

Motive, clear..keep out of the hands of the Goldman's..OJ's voice..

I cant believe OJ will get out of this!!

LMS:punch:

[Constance]

Lonnie and Marta LOL maybe he kept GUM in his pocket hahahaha

Yes, that was the important question OJ wanted an answer to. You didn't show your GUM. You didn't pull your piece (of gum) out.

Oh, JBL, please don't give Grasso an idea for his next question.

(You've slain me twice this morning. The "get the hook", and now this. You last remark required a cleaning of my screen, thanks.)

I can't make heads nor tails of this tape. And Grasso should be on the witness stand with all the testifying he's slipping in re that "preconceived" transcript.

JMO

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Oh, JBL, please don't give Grasso an idea for his next question.

(You've slain me twice this morning. The "get the hook", and now this. You last remark required a cleaning of my screen, thanks.)

I can't make heads nor tails of this tape. And Grasso should be on the witness stand with all the testifying he's slipping in re that "preconceived" transcript.

JMO

You're right! Constance, Grosso is trying to put words in his mouth, trying to spin words and so on..but McClinton was there, and hasnt fallen for this style of examination!! He is impatient, and dont blame him, as what Grasso is trying to do, does not change what he said in his direct testimony!!

LMS:eek:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

They're back live:

http://www.thelegaledge.com/index.php?livecover

LMS

[Kara]

My earlier question about whether McClinton ever did sell his tapes to a tabloid as he planned, was not answered. Maybe the new folks signing on board know ??

Christy, to my recolection is still in Flordia with 2 broken legs she sustained while running across a freeway.


bearwds
Isn't the McClinton tape the one that was enhanced by the FBI because it was of such bad quality it was impossible to understand originally? If so, I can't see any tabloid paying for it....

[JBL]

Oh, JBL, please don't give Grasso an idea for his next question.

(You've slain me twice this morning. The "get the hook", and now this. You last remark required a cleaning of my screen, thanks.)

I can't make heads nor tails of this tape. And Grasso should be on the witness stand with all the testifying he's slipping in re that "preconceived" transcript.

JMO

The most telling will be when the jurors are allowed to ask questions.

If anyone asks McClinton if he carry's Chicolets Grasso will have done his job.

ROFLMAO!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Isn't the McClinton tape the one that was enhanced by the FBI because it was of such bad quality it was impossible to understand originally? If so, I can't see any tabloid paying for it....

I think McClinton's tape is an "Analogue" type and could not have been altered...unlike the Riccio tapes, which were digital, which were enhanced to get rid of background noise ( from the Palms poolside tape) but not much else could be done with these tapes.

McClinton tapes were never sold to anybody, and I also recall testimony that they wanted to video tape, but couldnt get video to work (McClinton and Stewart).

LMS

[vonna]

I think McClinton's tape is an "Analogue" type and could not have been altered...unlike the Riccio tapes, which were digital, which were enhanced to get rid of background noise ( from the Palms poolside tape) but not much else could be done with these tapes.

McClinton tapes were never sold to anybody, and I also recall testimony that they wanted to video tape, but couldnt get video to work (McClinton and Stewart).

LMS

Grasso might know the law - but he could surely use some eloction lessons!

[RGG]

Christy, to my recolection is still in Flordia with 2 broken legs she sustained while running across a freeway.
bearwds

I think Christy's legs are fine now - she was in a video in Sept. after OJ's daughter attacked him and Christy and she was walking fine - I do believe that is Christy in the "family" section of the court room.

[Avalon]

McClinton tapes were never sold to anybody, and I also recall testimony that they wanted to video tape, but couldnt get video to work (McClinton and Stewart).

This is definitely the gang that couldn't shoot (so to speak) straight.

They all act like tough guys, but this entire incident shows what idiots they are -- risking prison terms for their new celebrity BFF. And, by the way, I don't believe there's one person in this mess who was a "friend" of OJ's before Nicole's murder. They all glommed onto him because he was a notorious celebrity who no longer had any respectable friends. I found it hilarious when Scotto said OJ "is my best friend". Please.

[AnnInOhio]

Sure looks like Proddy!

I thought somebody said the other day that was Linda Deutsch. I could be wrong (or they may have been).

[JBL]

I think Christy's legs are fine now - she was in a video in Sept. after OJ's daughter attacked him and Christy and she was walking fine - I do believe that is Christy in the "family" section of the court room.

Unless Prody had some plastic surgery done where I can no longer recognize her I haven't seen her yet.

[AnnInOhio]

I think McClinton's tape is an "Analogue" type and could not have been altered...unlike the Riccio tapes, which were digital, which were enhanced to get rid of background noise ( from the Palms poolside tape) but not much else could be done with these tapes.

McClinton tapes were never sold to anybody, and I also recall testimony that they wanted to video tape, but couldnt get video to work (McClinton and Stewart).

LMS

Are you implying that Alexander & McClinton shopped at an "Odd Lots Spy Shop" to purchase their spy equipment?

[JBL]

Christy and Arnelle at the prelim

http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/ap_prody_070920_ms.jpg

[JBL]

OMG! The little respect I had left for Grasso is now gone with the SNITCH story.

barf

[RGG]

I thought somebody said the other day that was Linda Deutsch. I could be wrong (or they may have been).

Ann - yes, there was someone that mentioned Linda Deutsch, but she was sitting in the first row behind OJ - the 2nd row is for family.

Here's the seating chart for this trial:

http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/media/Simpson-Seating-Chart.pdf

O - my mistake - 1st row is for family. - BEHIND the railing

[cherylt]

This describes myself!! I'm glad I'm not on the stand. I feel sorry for the jury. There she goes again - Jamie who finds everyone guilty but the defendant.

Hey!
Did you check out her inteview w/ Riccio last week? It was sweet! He was making fun of her a few times because I guess he overheard her on her show prior to trial. He said, "let me know what you think is going to be the outcome. Because I'm in Vegas & I'll just turn around & do the opposite. You said "it wouldn't come to trial and we're at trial..." He got a couple good ones on her. It was great! :cool:

[Details]

OMG! The little respect I had left for Grasso is now gone with the SNITCH story.

barfWhat Snitch story? I had a phone call and missed a few minutes.

[RGG]

Grasso is trying (and doing a fair job) of wearing McClinton down. He's hoping to break him or the rhythm. Needs more DA intervention break Grasso's rhythm.

[RGG]

Cherylt and Vonna Jamie is not my favorite person - she's on the bottom with Star! (thank goodness Star is gone!)
:lol:

[JBL]

Are you implying that Alexander & McClinton shopped at an "Odd Lots Spy Shop" to purchase their spy equipment?

Erm Fox's Spy Outlet is my understanding LOL


http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ersnews.com/OJ/Spy_Store.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ersnews.com/OJ_Vegas_Style.html&h=294&w=392&sz=21&hl=en&start=4&um=1&usg=__5wess3U_QTPbz1vx-rXKItNXf4w=&tbnid=871xzEay934yvM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dspy%2Bstore%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den


Ooooh nice url !

[cherylt]

Cherylt and Vonna Jamie is not my favorite person - she's on the bottom with Star! (thank goodness Star is gone!)
:lol:

I just got the shivers... Did you have to mention HER name??

barf

[RGG]

Thank goodness Gasso is done! I was almost done in, myself!

[JBL]

What Snitch story? I had a phone call and missed a few minutes.

Asking McClinton if he knows what a "snitch" or a "snitch jacket" is. :rolleyes:

I know I know - well the state did it and I wanna do it too! :rolleyes:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

So why Mr. Grasso did OJ request to see Mr McClinton's firearm license when discussing intimidation, menancing, security?...It is enough to know the mindset of McClinton, that OJ wanted him to bring gun to raid on the Marks!! OJ knew that Fromong had access to a gun..and worried about that..Grasso didnt make sense to me!!

LMShammer

[cherylt]

AP senior reporter, Linda Deutsch, has got to be in her late 50's, probably 60's. She has covered famous trials back to Charles Manson, Patty Hearst, Sirhan Sirhan, etc.

Christie Prody is in her early 30's ... 32 or 33, IIRC.

Yeah, LD was the selected reported allowed to go on the Jury View to Spector's house. And she doesn't look anything like Prody.

OMG - Grasso's DONE? Woooo! (for now...)

[RGG]

I just got the shivers... Did you have to mention HER name??

barf

So sorry Cherylt! hahaha - heck, it took me 5 minutes b4 I could even remember that twit's name.:)

[RGG]

OMG, if that's Linda Deutsch, I want the name of her plastic surgeon.

LD isn't family - so she would have to be sitting in that ONE aisle seat in the row that's reserved for family.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I get the picture clearly, OJ was incharge of the whole warplan..LOL..He designated McClinton to bring heat and security duty, he assigned CJ to bring the posse to carry items to be taken, and show force, he assigned Riccio to set up the meeting with the marks, to get them into a room alone with the "Goods"..Yowza..Major General is indeed responsible for the whole incident..and the bit players just followed orders..LOL (Script= OJ is the Major General..4star)

I just dont see how they can say OJ was the victim in this whole affair!!??

LMShammer

[AnnInOhio]

I hesitate to say this, but whenever I listen to this attorney speak I'm reminded of Damon Wayan's character "Oswald" from "In Living Color" that always used big words incorrectly. It's the start and stop quality of his voice I think.

[RGG]

No No No Deutsch is short and stocky w short hair: looks her age. Prody looks like Nichole (if she let herself go, drank and did drugs daily).... older than her age.

There is a professional looking blond woman in a suit on the left (our left) of OJ's sister. I don't know who that is either - and Prody, I think, is on the other side - toward the inside isle.

http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/media/Simpson-Seating-Chart.pdf

NO - the woman on the aisle isn't PRODY nor FAMILY. From OJ's sister all the way to the left of her is only family members.

[RGG]

I just dont see how they can say OJ was the victim in this whole affair!!??
LMShammer

Silly - OJ is the victim becuz it was OJ'S STUFF they stole. ROFL - and everybody's "always pickin on me!" Waaah!:(
:lol:

[RGG]

I hesitate to say this, but whenever I listen to this attorney speak I'm reminded of Damon Wayan's character from "In Living Color" that always used big words incorrectly. It's the start and stop quality of his voice I think.

Almost like Archie Bunker?:cool:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Can someone explain why this lawyer is holding a microphone??/Is it his preferrence, maybe he needs to do something with his hands?, maybe his voice doesnt sound so good with jacket mics??..Dont know..I get the thought he s doing an improve?!!!!!

LMS:punch:

Yowza..the bottom has fallin out of the market!!!

[JBL]

Can someone explain why this lawyer is holding a microphone??/Is it his preferrence, maybe he needs to do something with his hands?, maybe his voice doesnt sound so good with jacket pics??..Dont know..I get the thought he s doing an improve?!!!!!

LMS:punch:

Yowza..the bottom has fallin out of the market!!!

Good evening ladies and germs.....ROFL (the mic)

[RGG]

Oooh - that's bad. Worked at the DMV and gets a license in a phony name - UGH! I'm surprised they let that in.

[Kara]

Oooh - that's bad. Worked at the DMV and gets a license in a phony name - UGH! I'm surprised they let that in.I don't think he worked there, he was told about a woman who worked there that would get him the license in a phony name. I'm sure the state would like to know who she is (if they don't already)

[warrkat]

No No No Deutsch is short and stocky w short hair: looks her age. Prody looks like Nichole (if she let herself go, drank and did drugs daily).... older than her age.

There is a professional looking blond woman in a suit on the left (our left) of OJ's sister. I don't know who that is either - and Prody, I think, is on the other side - toward the inside isle.

Was Deutsch the one who prosecuted Cody ***? ( forget his last name, I'm sorry. The young boy who killed his dad and stepmother )

[cherylt]

I get the picture clearly, OJ was incharge of the whole warplan..LOL..He designated McClinton to bring heat and security duty, he assigned CJ to bring the posse to carry items to be taken, and show force, he assigned Riccio to set up the meeting with the marks, to get them into a room alone with the "Goods"..Yowza..Major General is indeed responsible for the whole incident..and the bit players just followed orders..LOL (Script= OJ is the Major General..4star)

I just dont see how they can say OJ was the victim in this whole affair!!??

LMShammer

Didn't you know? OJ is ALWAYS the victim! :rolleyes:

[warrkat]

I get the picture clearly, OJ was incharge of the whole warplan..LOL..He designated McClinton to bring heat and security duty, he assigned CJ to bring the posse to carry items to be taken, and show force, he assigned Riccio to set up the meeting with the marks, to get them into a room alone with the "Goods"..Yowza..Major General is indeed responsible for the whole incident..and the bit players just followed orders..LOL (Script= OJ is the Major General..4star)

I just dont see how they can say OJ was the victim in this whole affair!!??

LMShammer

Guess OJ was just in the wrong place at the wrong time..... again!

[kennedy06]

Posey? Unless I'm misunderstanding the question L Deutch is a AP reporter I believe. JMO

[cherylt]

Can someone explain why this lawyer is holding a microphone??/Is it his preferrence, maybe he needs to do something with his hands?, maybe his voice doesnt sound so good with jacket mics??..Dont know..I get the thought he s doing an improve?!!!!!

LMS:punch:

Yowza..the bottom has fallin out of the market!!!

Maybe he'll sing for us in a little bit? Requests anyone?

[warrkat]

Posey? Unless I'm misunderstanding the question L Deutch is a AP reporter I believe. JMO

Yes, Posey. And you're right, she is a reporter. Sorry, my brain is still in its weekend mode.

[RGG]

They'll take lunch as soon as this witness is finished with. I think the judge thought it was going to only be another 10-15 mins. Now we're up to 15mins. further than Judge Glass intended.

This poor jury - all the tummies are probably growling at Grasso by now.

[RGG]

That is my question also. I'm thinking she just wants to finish this witness and then break till Wednesday. No court tomorrow? Or just no cameras?

I thought they were only going to 3pm today and no court tomorrow.:shrug:

So after lunch - 2 more hrs?

[Details]

Last short day they took a half hour lunch - and it really was - it was delivered, so it was quick.

[cherylt]

It is now almost 1:30 there isn't it?

12:30...pm

[Details]

12:30 there. And she's told he jury lunch is in the room, hold out for a few more minutes. We're on recross, which means next is the jury questions, then this guy is done!

[kennedy06]

That just sounds like a formal word menacing. Not a word to describe looking threatening or mean, a word or phrase guys like this would use, know what I mean??

[JBL]

hahaha you bad little attorneys go sit down

[Kara]

Wow, so many jury questions that the judge is going to step out with counsel to discuss them.

[tashi]

Wow, so many jury questions that the judge is going to step out with counsel to discuss them.


This is the best part in my opinion...I want to see what they want clarified. It's a little window into what their thinking

[Kara]

This is the best part in my opinion...I want to see what they want clarified. It's a little window into what their thinking
I love jury questions. :)

[Constance]

I'm watching on KTLA with Lonni and Marta.

Shall we provide an edited or movie version for Marta? She has been clearly bored by this whole trial, she whines as if she is a tired old lady, and her litany, day after day, is how tired the judge is, judge is getting grouchy, judge is fed up, judge is unprofessional, oh, it's Friday, Judge is tired, on and on. I can't watch it on TruTV (endless commercials, commentary, and JF pops up on all the shows). Marta, dear, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute, just pile on more sweaters with no commentary, and keep losing your place while you're hunched over the computer.

If I had their website email, I would politely post the same thing.

[RGG]

Neither of the 2 blonds (left of OJ's sister) looked like Christie.

You could see them as the judge and lawyers were looking over the jurors questions.

[Kara]

I'm watching on KTLA with Lonni and Marta.

Shall we provide an edited or movie version for Marta? She has been clearly bored by this whole trial, she whines as if she is a tired old lady, and her litany, day after day, is how tired the judge is, judge is getting grouchy, judge is fed up, judge is unprofessional, oh, it's Friday, Judge is tired, on and on. I can't watch it on TruTV (endless commercials, commentary, and JF pops up on all the shows). Marta, dear, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute, just pile on more sweaters with no commentary, and keep losing your place while you're hunched over the computer.

If I had their website email, I would politely post the same thing.
They have a message board over there and respond to comments/questions.

[Details]

And the jury question are....

Oops - there are more! Maybe they'll be duplicates. Must be, no further consult with attorneys.

While in the room, did you point the gun at anyone. He says no, didn't point it at anyone. Held the gun up against his chest angled upwards.

Question about who Fromong was telling about the Joe Montanas - he doesn't know

Did you assume OJ wanted you to bring the gun - no, he asked directly
Did OJ ask you to bring the gun? If so, how did he ask?

Did Mr Alexander indicate OJ might be interested in you having a permit? Yes.

Who was in the white Infinity? Not sure

Why do you have a CCW? Gun enthusiast and job.

Who do you refer to as fang? Just an expresion - my fangs came out.

Who informed you the items taken from the room belonged to OJ? OJ.

Why did you do it - money, etc.? Just for OJ.


I know I missed one or two questions - but that's most of them.

[kennedy06]

I'm watching on KTLA with Lonni and Marta.

Shall we provide an edited or movie version for Marta? She has been clearly bored by this whole trial, she whines as if she is a tired old lady, and her litany, day after day, is how tired the judge is, judge is getting grouchy, judge is fed up, judge is unprofessional, oh, it's Friday, Judge is tired, on and on. I can't watch it on TruTV (endless commercials, commentary, and JF pops up on all the shows). Marta, dear, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute, just pile on more sweaters with no commentary, and keep losing your place while you're hunched over the computer.

If I had their website email, I would politely post the same thing.

I thought it would be boring but I have found it quite riveting to watch. JMO

[riohouse]

OK - sure looks like Christy in front of the lady in pink and beside OJ's sister (our RT side).

Right on Snowbird for the pics. She looks just like Nicole. I wonder if OJ slips up and calls her Nicole, wouldnt surprise me.



Riohouse

[kennedy06]

Leave the evidence LOL!

[RGG]

back at 4:30ET - 3:30CT.

[Constance]

she cruises thru the comments on their website. Go ahead and tell her.


I tried to find the KTLA message board that Marta reads from, but apparently there are a lot of them. At least I found out while I was searching who Ziggy is. If anyone has the address, please post it? Yes, I'll be kind. Don't want to hurt one's feelings [intentionally].

[cherylt]

And the jury question are....

Oops - there are more! Maybe they'll be duplicates. Must be, no further consult with attorneys.

While in the room, did you point the gun at anyone. He says no, didn't point it at anyone. Held the gun up against his chest angled upwards.

Question about who Fromong was telling about the Joe Montanas - he doesn't know

Did you assume OJ wanted you to bring the gun - no, he asked directly
Did OJ ask you to bring the gun? If so, how did he ask?

Did Mr Alexander indicate OJ might be interested in you having a permit? Yes.

Who was in the white Infinity? Not sure

Why do you have a CCW? Gun enthusiast and job.

Who do you refer to as fang? Just an expresion - my fangs came out.

Who informed you the items taken from the room belonged to OJ? OJ.

Why did you do it - money, etc.? Just for OJ.


I know I missed one or two questions - but that's most of them.

I don't think you missed anything. You were very detailed, Details!! :)

[Lyndawitha"Y]

person in the white Infinity was a woman. Didn't know who.

Designated Driver...he had been drinking amybe??LOL
LMS:shrug:

[Lqqkout]

I'm watching on KTLA with Lonni and Marta.

Shall we provide an edited or movie version for Marta? She has been clearly bored by this whole trial, she whines as if she is a tired old lady, and her litany, day after day, is how tired the judge is, judge is getting grouchy, judge is fed up, judge is unprofessional, oh, it's Friday, Judge is tired, on and on. I can't watch it on TruTV (endless commercials, commentary, and JF pops up on all the shows). Marta, dear, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute, just pile on more sweaters with no commentary, and keep losing your place while you're hunched over the computer.

If I had their website email, I would politely post the same thing.

ITA:beer: I have to mute them after about a minute.

[Lqqkout]

It's kind of strange that each has a different version of the placement of this gun It's by his side, it's flat to his chest, it's pointed at Riccio's head and pointed out and horizontal in true gangland fashion. hmmmm

[Kara]

I tried to find the KTLA message board that Marta reads from, but apparently there are a lot of them. At least I found out while I was searching who Ziggy is. If anyone has the address, please post it? Yes, I'll be kind. Don't want to hurt one's feelings [intentionally].http://forums.ktla.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=4421022263&f=1431055694&m=2991068005&r=3901066265#3901066265

[RGG]

I think they moved around. The blonde I mentioned looking like Christi was on one side of OJ's sister, our Rt - (her left) at the end of the row. She was the only person sitting beside the sister on the inside isle. she was wearing a print dress. The other blonde (in the jacket) was on the other side (Our left).
But as I said - they moved I think- or there was a differnet camera angle. We'll see after lunch.

Yes, I knew which one you were referring to snowbird, and I kept putting up the courtroom diagram link so you (and others) could see that everyone to the (our left) right of OJ's sister, were family members.

[warrkat]

I'm watching on KTLA with Lonni and Marta.

Shall we provide an edited or movie version for Marta? She has been clearly bored by this whole trial, she whines as if she is a tired old lady, and her litany, day after day, is how tired the judge is, judge is getting grouchy, judge is fed up, judge is unprofessional, oh, it's Friday, Judge is tired, on and on. I can't watch it on TruTV (endless commercials, commentary, and JF pops up on all the shows). Marta, dear, if you have nothing intelligent to contribute, just pile on more sweaters with no commentary, and keep losing your place while you're hunched over the computer.

If I had their website email, I would politely post the same thing.

Usually, I have my screen minimized because I'm at work, and just listening. When I did get a chance the other day to watch those two women, it was nerve-wracking. They're not too bad to listen to, though.

[JBL]

I sure wish that white SUV, Infinity Q56, AND its occupant(s) had been identified.

I thought McClinton had said there were 2 people in it but he could only say one was a woman because of the dark tinted windows.

The person or people in that SUV had to be trusted friends of Simpson's because the majority of the items stolen from room 1203 were loaded into it and then the SUV drove away. The SUV occupants could be questioned as to where they took all those items ... some of it "belongs" to Fromong and Beardsley (Pete Rose, Joe Montana memorabilia, etc.).

But at least some of it is subject to a turn over to the Goldman family.:flamemad:


Seems like the only person privy to the white suv occupants is OJ himself. He's not talking. He has enough arrows pointing to him as being at the center of the posse gathering. I wouldn't be surprised to hear him say he didn't see no white suv.

[Constance]

I missed that part but Cloey @ J-13 said this is Marta's last trial (coverage). They didn't renew her contract. :read:

imo

Yeeks, if that's true, I don't want to rub salt in her wounds. I checked Google, and there have been a few contract conflicts with her and KTLA (i.e., age discrimination in 1996) over the years (and a lawsuit if I read the search site correctly) going back to the original Simpson trial (1996). (I googled Marta Waller's contract.) So is that outdated news about Marta? Sorry, but I don't know who Cloey@J-13 is. Can I read her comment somewhere?

Also, Kara, thanks for the KTLA forum address; and Guernica, thanks for the LegalEdge link. Thanks all.

I believe I've approached O/T. Uh-oh.

Just my opinions here.

[AnnInOhio]

Seems like the only person privy to the white suv occupants is OJ himself. He's not talking. He has enough arrows pointing to him as being at the center of the posse gathering. I wouldn't be surprised to hear him say he didn't see no white suv.

Make that didn't see no white suv haw, haw, haw!

[vonna]

Usually, I have my screen minimized because I'm at work, and just listening. When I did get a chance the other day to watch those two women, it was nerve-wracking. They're not too bad to listen to, though.

Lonnie's OK - but not Marta.

[RGG]

I wonder why the defense is having such a difficult time getting this officer Tucker? Was he mentioned in any of the transcripts?

The next 4 should be (for the defense):

Tucker
Hunt
Beardsley
Scotto

[JBL]

Make that didn't see no white suv haw, haw, haw!

:lol:
hammer

[JBL]

Make that didn't see no white suv haw, haw, haw!


I can't believe Grasso attributing that laugh to someone else. I mean good grief!

You'd think Simpson would try to flag him down or both him and Yale should have shot a spitball at him to try to get his attention to ixnay on the haw haw haw nay

[Details]

I wonder why the defense is having such a difficult time getting this officer Tucker? Was he mentioned in any of the transcripts?If I heard right, right before the break - and I'm very unsure of this - Tucker may be the officer identified on the tape as talking about getting OJ, or some such thing. If so (I'm not sure on this at all) - he could be resisting the subpeona, because he sees himself being cast as the next racist Furhman who lets OJ get away with stupid remarks again.

Or he could be just any old cop who is being no little bit obnoxious and big-headed about testifying.

[JBL]

I wonder why the defense is having such a difficult time getting this officer Tucker? Was he mentioned in any of the transcripts?

The next 4 should be (for the defense):

Tucker
Hunt
Beardsley
Scotto

I thought I heard Lonnie and Marta attribute Tucker to the crack made about if California couldn't get em Nevada will. I can't think of another reason why anyone would not graciously accept an invitation to spend the afternoon with Gallanter, Grasso and OJ. ;)

[RGG]

Guernica, I agree the chart isn't 100% correct.

As for "court support" - last week, there was a bailiff there for part of the trial, and then other times it looked like a media reporter or such, so maybe it's just an odd-man-out chair, for whomever the defense prefers to sit there (subject to the approval of the DA's office).:shrug:

True that the blonds are strangely seated, unless they've married into the Simpson or other closely related families.

[RGG]

Details and JBL, oh? I thought it was stated that the person that said that wasn't really a police officer, but was (somehow) connected to the police....maybe cleaned the toilets? (just j/k).

[Details]

Details and JBL, oh? I thought it was stated that the person that said that wasn't really a police officer, but was (somehow) connected to the police....maybe cleaned the toilets? (just j/k).I don't know - I've heard rumors both ways (it was a civilian, it was this cop) - and reported them as rumors - but I don't know the truth yet.

That's why I'm careful to flag what I am unsure of.

[Details]

This cop testified that the person who made that comment was a civilian. He was asked if the civilian worked at the police department and he said yes. That is just how I remember hearing it.I missed some of that testimony, and that specific answer, so I'm not sure about it. Maybe I'll read in transcripts to check. But if Marty and Loni are correct - maybe the speaker's identity is in doubt. Or maybe their stuff is pure rumor. We'll find out I'm sure.

[RGG]

I thought the name of the guy was Perkins (?) or something similar.

Yep - Perkins:
http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/media/Riccio_Transcripts/Recording_File_6-002.PDF

it's page 25 L19

also on page 20 L18 is where this Perkins starts describing where he work(s)ed.

[RGG]

I thought the name of the guy was Perkins (?) or something similar.

Yep - Perkins:
http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/media/Riccio_Transcripts/Recording_File_6-002.PDF

it's page 25 L19

also on page 20 L18 is where this Perkins starts describing where he work(s)ed.

Now to clarify even further - I don't think Perkins said this either - I think he's quoting "JOHN" - so who is John? Maybe it was John Tucker? The man they can't serve?:shrug

(this is still on P25 L19

[Details]

Tucker - questions seem boring - not sure why the fuss over coming here.

[Constance]

Constance, I haven't seen you in this OJ forum til today. I've mentioned J-13 often here and recommended the website for info we've been discussing. Cloey is the moderator there and she mentioned in chatroom there that Marta had announced it earlier:

http://www.jurorthirteen.com

Oh for goodness' sake! JurorThirteen I've seen. Never connected it with J-13. hammer (me hammering me)

Thank you, Flere

[RGG]

"CHRIS TUCKER" - that blows my thoughts now!:shrug:

[JBL]

Ha - Stradegy. Alfred Beasley to be the last person they hear from.

Their so transparent.

[JBL]

Beardsley looking snappy today.

[AnnInOhio]

Oh here we go with Alfred again<--- he's back...in hospital scrubs?

I'm sure Al wishes those were hospital scrubs!

[AnnInOhio]

A set up because of what Riccio was saying. Hey, Al what did you know about what OJ was saying to his posse??

[AnnInOhio]

:lol:

Oh yeah, those jail outfits are so snappy - comfortable, though, I guess. Also cheap to make, launder, etc.

Al says "This old thing?? Shoot, I wear 'em whether I'm in a mental hospital or a jail. So versatile"

[cherylt]

Tucker - questions seem boring - not sure why the fuss over coming here.

So what was the "crux" of his testimony? My computer konked out for a few minutes & then (EEK!) Beardsley is on!

[cherylt]

DOES YALE EVER LISTEN TO THE JUDGE!!

(sorry for shouting, he just really got my goat!!):flamemad:

[Details]

Tucker was boring. He just testified that he arrived on scene and started the investigation. I still don't know what the point to it was.

Beardsley was in cuffs for some reason that Yale alluded to asking about, but then never got to. It's rare for them to be in cuffs. Obviously he did something to change his circumstances.

And, yeah, Yale just will not stop asking the questions, even after they're overruled several times.


Closing up shop for the jury.

[cherylt]

Al says "This old thing?? Shoot, I wear 'em whether I'm in a mental hospital or a jail. So versatile"

:lol: Love it!!

[JBL]

I knew Gallanter wanted him back to take another bite at his star defense witness apple.

LOL I bet when they saw him in his jailhouse/chains that put a little wrench in the desired effect.

[RGG]

Guess they don't have Scotto there, so that's it until Wednesday?

[AnnInOhio]

DOES YALE EVER LISTEN TO THE JUDGE!!

(sorry for shouting, he just really got my goat!!):flamemad:

She's making Yale MAD! :mad: :cuss:

[cherylt]

Judge jackie glass is admonishing o.j. Simpson and c.j. Stewart as per their rights to take the witness stand
and
THERE IS ONE WITNESS LEFT AS PER O.J. SIMPSON'S CASE, STEWART'S ATTORNEYS PLAN ON CALLING 5 WITNESSES

Closings expected Thursday

[Details]

No answer from OJ and Stewart if they will testify. They just got to hear the admonishment - what will happen if they do testify, what the prosecutor can ask, what will happen if they do not testify, how the jury may be admonished not to jump to any conclusions from that.


I keep thinking OJ will testify.

[Details]

Defense attorney for Stewart giving very good argument that several of the charges against him should not go to the jury, because no testimony supports them.

[legalmania]

Let me guess she will deny Mr. Stewart's motion. OJ also denied.

[cherylt]

No answer from OJ and Stewart if they will testify. They just got to hear the admonishment - what will happen if they do testify, what the prosecutor can ask, what will happen if they do not testify, how the jury may be admonished not to jump to any conclusions from that.


I keep thinking OJ will testify.

Me too. I think he thinks he is so charming he'll talk his way out of it...

[RGG]

I keep thinking OJ will testify.

I'm thinking not, but I've sure been wrong before. A LOT!

[cherylt]

Court is in recess for the day and is dark tuesday. Court will resume wed at 8am pdt with the continuation of the o.j. Simpson 's defense.

Good night all, see ya Wednesday!

[Details]

Let me guess she will deny Mr. Stewart's motion. OJ also denied.Yep - jury ultimate triers of fact.


And it is a catch-22 they're trying. Object to any testimony that Stewart knew what was going on by saying that someone cannot testify what another is able to see or unable to see, then say you cannot charge them with that crime because there's no testimony they saw the guns. The jury gets to decide if they think Stewart could see the guns.

[legalmania]

Judge jackie glass is admonishing o.j. Simpson and c.j. Stewart as per their rights to take the witness stand
and
THERE IS ONE WITNESS LEFT AS PER O.J. SIMPSON'S CASE, STEWART'S ATTORNEYS PLAN ON CALLING 5 WITNESSES

Closings expected Thursday

Hey cherylt, boy do I wish you lived closer I have spent two days on that site and haven't even come close to being done. It's a full time job.

[Details]

Me too. I think he thinks he is so charming he'll talk his way out of it...I think he's watching the other witnesses there, and convincing himself he could do a better job than that.

And I think at this point he's got nothing to lose. We've got most of his defense case in - and there was nothing there. The tapes have him well convicted. He can't do himself any more harm by testifying. And the only answer to the taped OJ is a live OJ saying what he was thinking and seeing.

[ellvarn]

Sorry I have to ask, but my "other life" pestered me right in the middle of it all - so has both defendents declined to take the stand?

TIA

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Well, so far in the defense case in chief, havent heard anything news-worthy..even the jurors didnt ask questions..I certainly hope there is a "Hail Mary" that happens..or the defense team better pack up their crayons and go home!!

LMS:D

[kennedy06]

After listening to L & M after the trial coverage was ended, I'm definetly going to see who takes that stand on Wed! JMO

[cherylt]

Hey cherylt, boy do I wish you lived closer I have spent two days on that site and haven't even come close to being done. It's a full time job.

No Kidding! Since I was out all morning, I'll have to go to there myself to really get caught up! :)

Good nite! :seeya:

[lovelaw]

I think he's watching the other witnesses there, and convincing himself he could do a better job than that.

And I think at this point he's got nothing to lose. We've got most of his defense case in - and there was nothing there. The tapes have him well convicted. He can't do himself any more harm by testifying. And the only answer to the taped OJ is a live OJ saying what he was thinking and seeing.

I don't think he SHOULD testify...but I sure hope he does!!~

[Details]

Sorry I have to ask, but my "other life" pestered me right in the middle of it all - so has both defendents declined to take the stand?

TIADefendants admonished - given the information about their choice in taking the stand or not. They did not, that I heard, get asked for their answer, yes or no.

[cherylt]

Well, so far in the defense case in chief, havent heard anything news-worthy..even the jurors didnt ask questions..I certainly hope there is a "Hail Mary" that happens..or the defense team better pack up their crayons and go home!!

LMS:D

Wouldn't you just LOVE to hear what the jurors would ask OJ if he takes the stand ?! Oh the possibilities!!!! :D

[RGG]

Sorry I have to ask, but my "other life" pestered me right in the middle of it all - so has both defendents declined to take the stand?TIA

We won't know until after the last witness, Scotto, testifies.

[cherylt]

I think he's watching the other witnesses there, and convincing himself he could do a better job than that.

And I think at this point he's got nothing to lose. We've got most of his defense case in - and there was nothing there. The tapes have him well convicted. He can't do himself any more harm by testifying. And the only answer to the taped OJ is a live OJ saying what he was thinking and seeing.

ITA! He does have nothing to lose and IF he really didn't go there to do anything wrong (intent) he HAS to take the stand to tell the jurors what was going on in his own mind. I really think he has to explain (his) whole story in order to be believable. IMO, the Prosecution has proved their burden so he should roll the vegas dice & get up on that stand. JMO. Insert "glee" icon (if it happens)

[ellvarn]

Thanks everyone for answering my question about the defendents taking the stand.

I tried to listen, and I caught the same thing, just admonished about their rights but neither has said one way or the other.

Off to my other life - hammer

:seeya:

[legalmania]

Tucker was boring. He just testified that he arrived on scene and started the investigation. I still don't know what the point to it was.

Beardsley was in cuffs for some reason that Yale alluded to asking about, but then never got to. It's rare for them to be in cuffs. Obviously he did something to change his circumstances.

And, yeah, Yale just will not stop asking the questions, even after they're overruled several times.


Closing up shop for the jury.

I guess that Mr. Simpson was very affable.

[AnnInOhio]

ITA! He does have nothing to lose and IF he really didn't go there to do anything wrong (intent) he HAS to take the stand to tell the jurors what was going on in his own mind. I really think he has to explain (his) whole story in order to be believable. IMO, the Prosecution has proved their burden so he should roll the vegas dice & get up on that stand. JMO. Insert "glee" icon (if it happens)

Only problem is that what was going on in his mind was still illegal! Just because he may have felt "justified" doesn't make it so. His only hope is jury nullification, and I don't think there's anything he could say on the stand that would gain him the sympathy required. Except maybe if Yale asked him if did this and he testifies, "Yale, I may be a murderer but I'm not a robber or kidnapper" they might let him off on lesser charges.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

If Tom Scotto IS the Defense's last witness, how will he reconcile these two statements appearing in the press as quotes:

New York Post, September 17, 2007:

1. " "It's ruined my wedding," Thomas Scotto, 45, said of Simpson's arrest for armed robbery the day after the nuptials."

2. "When Simpson came under suspicion for the armed robbery, "he was devastated that he was ruining my wedding," Scotto said."

More at the New York Post article here:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172007/news/nationalnews/probe_ruined_my_wedding__frien.htm

But, by October 30, 2007, Scotto changed his story completely for Newsweek magazine:

" Scotto, who met Simpson at a boxing match seven years ago and travels and golfs with him, thinks he knows why his friend's in trouble: he's too trusting. "Nobody really knows O. J.," Scotto insists. "He's a really sweet, really good guy." He says the new legal troubles disturb Simpson. "He's up and down," says Scotto. Some days he's "really depressed."

But despite the uproar in Vegas, Simpson did at least one good turn for his friend. In the hours before the wedding, Simpson put on a brave face—and certainly did not let on that he might be worried about being arrested. After returning from his honeymoon Scotto asked him about this. "I said, 'Why didn't you say anything?' and he said, 'Because it's your wedding. I didn't want to ruin your wedding'." Now, that's a pal. "

http://www.newsweek.com/id/67198/page/2

IF Scotto is for real..and I use that term loosely given OJ's friends..then he is delusional, and has only been exposed to the Nice Side of OJ...Just wait until he cant help OJ in his quests???..He'd be turned on big time...I wonder just what their real connection is???Scotto and OJ that is???

LMS

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Scotto...He sounds like a real winner too\; orry I jst have a bad taste in my mouth about Body Shop Owners>??

http://www.newsweek.com/id/67198

Here's a snippet...

The message was a demand for money in exchange for his silence, Scotto believes. Scotto says he never returned the call. "I'm not getting involved in something like that—bribing a witness," Scotto says. "That's extortion." Scotto tells NEWSWEEK that he turned the tape over to prosecutors a few weeks ago, shortly before Alexander announced he'd cut a deal. Clark County prosecutors declined comment. So did Simpson attorney Yale Galanter.

Anyone else believe that this fantasy and spin will actually be tried out on this jury?? You gotta know they will

Just as an outside..If someone involved me in scam..and knew the truth of the matter??Why would they not ask for assistance to get legal representation from the Major eneral of the Heist??..I dont see this as anything out of ordinary..at least where OJ is concerned??/He has involved so many actors in his life plan..it makes me so mad for the "Kettle to call the Pot Black"!!

LMS

PS..Scotto is just another pon in OJ's game of Life!!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Believe me I dont hold dear the term "Autobody Shops"..most of them work under the table..Insurance scams not to mention some have connections to "Chop Shops"!!! so If this guy has any skeleton in his closet..he should be very nervous..Again, Scotto could very well prove the post murder trial acquaintenances is more indicative than anything else..OJ just would never survive living in a legal manner...!!

LMS:cuss:

[JBL]

Al says "This old thing?? Shoot, I wear 'em whether I'm in a mental hospital or a jail. So versatile"

:lol: :tongue:

Especially the "bling" he's hauling!

[cherylt]

Only problem is that what was going on in his mind was still illegal! Just because he may have felt "justified" doesn't make it so. His only hope is jury nullification, and I don't think there's anything he could say on the stand that would gain him the sympathy required. Except maybe if Yale asked him if did this and he testifies, "Yale, I may be a murderer but I'm not a robber or kidnapper" they might let him off on lesser charges.

LOL - I'm a murderer not a robber! ...

So you don't think OJ's "vainness" would be enough to make him get up there? You could be right, but I think (at least right now) that he just thinks he is the CAT'S MEOW, and if he could only speak directly to the jurors, he could PROVE it to them. I don't think even now he realizes he did anything wrong, being the sociopathic narcissist that he is...
Guess we'll probably find out tomorrow. I heard one of the TH's saying they think Stewart WILL testify because he didn't have a gun, said he knew nothing about bringing guns and I think he didn't even see one? I may be wrong on that one...

[JBL]

LOL - I'm a murderer not a robber! ...

So you don't think OJ's "vainness" would be enough to make him get up there? You could be right, but I think (at least right now) that he just thinks he is the CAT'S MEOW, and if he could only speak directly to the jurors, he could PROVE it to them. I don't think even now he realizes he did anything wrong, being the sociopathic narcissist that he is...
Guess we'll probably find out tomorrow. I heard one of the TH's saying they think Stewart WILL testify because he didn't have a gun, said he knew nothing about bringing guns and I think he didn't even see one? I may be wrong on that one...

He can't do any worse then Grasso did today. OMG! :eek:

[JBL]

I recall both Yale and Bryson giving Det. Caldwell notice that they were going to call him so he's another possibilty.

[riohouse]

Mr. Galanter is a master at pushing the envelope. It is a fine line between being an agressive advocate and being so annoying it affects the jury and the judge negatively.

I did not get anything from the Tucker testimony other than Simpson was cooperative with Law Enforcement; even did the charming persona act for them. Perhaps others have a different take on it.


You are so right about Galantar, also I noticed the Juror's did not ask any questions after the last witness the top cop if you will( can't remeber his name) anyway I think they are tired of OJ"S defense team because think about it every time she has to scolled his defense team the jurors must be thinking shutup already you are dragging this out longer than necssary. And I am sure these juroros have lives that they would like to get back too.
imo

Riohouse

[AnnInOhio]

He can't do any worse then Grasso did today. OMG! :eek:

I thought it was just me! Grasso's a handsome man, but that was painful to watch & hear.

[AnnInOhio]

Does anybody plan to watch the Goldmans and Mike Gilbert on Dr. Phil tomorrow? Think Gilbert's gonna spill his guts about details of OJ's hidden cache of "stuff" and money-making sources? And, hopefully, Yale's role?

[callmetree]

thank you all for all the info. darn't had to work but finally got caught up. i love the humor you add also,:seeya:

[mbmb]

I do think Simpson is very tempted to testify. He is often described as charming and friendly; heard Jean C., on the scene correspondent of InSession, make that statement several times to the studio anchors. Gosh, I would like to be that fly on the wall to hear the conversations between Simpson and his team of Grasso and Galanter tonight and tomorrow!

Remember, though, tomorrow is Tuesday, 9/30/08 and there is no court tomorrow. It is shut down due to a Jewish holiday; which one I can't remember.

We will have to wait until trial resumes on Wednesday.

Oh, I pray that OJ will get his guilty butt on the stand. I want him to go down. Charming? Like John McCain is charming?

[rulovlaw]

IF Scotto is for real..and I use that term loosely given OJ's friends..then he is delusional, and has only been exposed to the Nice Side of OJ...Just wait until he cant help OJ in his quests???..He'd be turned on big time...I wonder just what their real connection is???Scotto and OJ that is???

LMS

Lynda you dont know that.. You make it clear that you have very strong opinions about OJ.. But every friend he has ever had says very nice things about him.. including those who he has had fallings out with.
I really dont care what you personally feel about the man.. But dont pretend that you know him, or how he is with his friends, or those who consider him as a friend. Or make negative assumptions about anyone who does not hate him as much as you do.
You dont know either side of OJ Simpson, and are simply a OJ groupy yourself..(As you like to refer to people)
You are part of that "Angry group" Who sometimes posts as if you know the man and have some personal cause to hate him as much as you do.

The truth is frankly you dont know him Lynda.
You Never have, never will.(Which Im sure is fine with you)
I dont believe for you Its about whats just, or justice for *This case*..
Its about some sort of obsessive revenge for strangers.. Frankly..what kind of person does that make you???

I dunno I guess I thought more people here would discuss things other then personal insults of the defendant, and discuss the evidence from both perspectives and the aspects of the trial. A few do I know , But I get so sick of the bashing..

JMO

[Pooh1]

Not to get too off topic here...but did anyone here see Jamie's "last word" today.? Why I even watched her is beyond me.....she is such a joke.......but today she crossed herself up. Didn't she shortly after the trial rant on about there was no evidence to convict OJ, (of ANY CRIME) and that the whole circus was a waste of tax-payers money? Now today she said that McClinton admitted to being the "gunman" in the circus and that he SOLEY should be tried for armed robbery. So she has gone from NO crime committed, to now hang McClinton, who was acting on OJ's orders.............Jeeezzz.......... she so tries to convince herself that her precious OJ is innocent......I really believe she can't determine right from wrong anymore.:no:

[callmetree]

Wouldn't you just LOVE to hear what the jurors would ask OJ if he takes the stand ?! Oh the possibilities!!!! :D

oh to be one of the jurors and have that opportunity!! but then i would probably be sent slinking out the back door by the judge:punch: IMO it just might be worth it....:D

[callmetree]

IF Scotto is for real..and I use that term loosely given OJ's friends..then he is delusional, and has only been exposed to the Nice Side of OJ...Just wait until he cant help OJ in his quests???..He'd be turned on big time...I wonder just what their real connection is???Scotto and OJ that is???

LMS

:seeya: hi lynda, just wanted to say i love reading your post here. saw where one poster got snippy with u for this post.:shrug: i'm one that totally agrees with you. it's our right to have our own opinions. keep up the good posting... for the majority of us.

[AnnInOhio]

**snip**
I dunno I guess I thought more people here would discuss things other then personal insults of the defendant, and discuss the evidence from both perspectives and the aspects of the trial. A few do I know , But I get so sick of the bashing..

JMO

I'm not Lynda, but I understand where you're coming from on the personal bashing of OJ and people's refusal to acknowledge any good in the man. Even people who hate him on Nicole's behalf have to acknowledge that she stayed with the man for years, so he must have some redeeming qualities. The problem I have with OJ is that he seems to have a tendency to use and abuse those women and friends who are so faithful to him. Just because they forgive him doesn't change what he's capable of. Seeing the aspects of this case from both perspectives is hard because OJ's defense is so perverted. Best I can understand his defense, they're saying he did it BUT he should be excused because he thinks the stuff is his and nobody can prove he knew about the guns? His women and buddies may overlook his lapses of judgement and be willing to follow him into hell, but that doesn't mean what he asks them to do is legal. And while his friends may choose to forgive and forget, society and the state of Nevada is not under any obligation to do so. Somebody has to have the guts to stand up and tell OJ "no" when he crosses the line, and it doesn't appear his friends have the personal fortitude to do it.

[AnnInOhio]

oh to be one of the jurors and have that opportunity!! but then i would probably be sent slinking out the back door by the judge:punch: IMO it just might be worth it....:D

What you're proposing would create a mistrial and may be OJ's last hope. I hope the jurors realize that.

[JBL]

What you're proposing would create a mistrial and may be OJ's last hope. I hope the jurors realize that.

Any questions the jurors would ask teetering on the mistrial line would not be read.

However, any of the defense teams would try to find "something" to try for a mistrial based that the jury is bias and is letting OJ's past interfere with the decision.

[JBL]

Does anybody plan to watch the Goldmans and Mike Gilbert on Dr. Phil tomorrow? Think Gilbert's gonna spill his guts about details of OJ's hidden cache of "stuff" and money-making sources? And, hopefully, Yale's role?

What time is the good "doc" on ? (heh heh)

[JBL]

I'm not Lynda, but I understand where you're coming from on the personal bashing of OJ and people's refusal to acknowledge any good in the man. Even people who hate him on Nicole's behalf have to acknowledge that she stayed with the man for years, so he must have some redeeming qualities. The problem I have with OJ is that he seems to have a tendency to use and abuse those women and friends who are so faithful to him. Just because they forgive him doesn't change what he's capable of. Seeing the aspects of this case from both perspectives is hard because OJ's defense is so perverted. Best I can understand his defense, they're saying he did it BUT he should be excused because he thinks the stuff is his and nobody can prove he knew about the guns? His women and buddies may overlook his lapses of judgement and be willing to follow him into hell, but that doesn't mean what he asks them to do is legal. And while his friends may choose to forgive and forget, society and the state of Nevada is not under any obligation to do so. Somebody has to have the guts to stand up and tell OJ "no" when he crosses the line, and it doesn't appear his friends have the personal fortitude to do it.


I wonder if Ehrlich still talks to him. I bet it's blown over but he sounded pretty po'd at OJ.

As far as CJ goes - his apologetic remarks to Alexander and McClinton was more about CYA with trying to get them both to come to his side with the lawyer and all. Power in numbers, we stick together.

[JBL]

Lynda you dont know that.. You make it clear that you have very strong opinions about OJ.. But every friend he has ever had says very nice things about him.. including those who he has had fallings out with.
I really dont care what you personally feel about the man.. But dont pretend that you know him, or how he is with his friends, or those who consider him as a friend. Or make negative assumptions about anyone who does not hate him as much as you do.
You dont know either side of OJ Simpson, and are simply a OJ groupy yourself..(As you like to refer to people)
You are part of that "Angry group" Who sometimes posts as if you know the man and have some personal cause to hate him as much as you do.

The truth is frankly you dont know him Lynda.
You Never have, never will.(Which Im sure is fine with you)
I dont believe for you Its about whats just, or justice for *This case*..
Its about some sort of obsessive revenge for strangers.. Frankly..what kind of person does that make you???

I dunno I guess I thought more people here would discuss things other then personal insults of the defendant, and discuss the evidence from both perspectives and the aspects of the trial. A few do I know , But I get so sick of the bashing..

JMO


So you know him as you know what all of his friends he's ever had say about him. Can you ask Al Cowlings his best buddy his view? How about Mike Gilbert another old friend of OJ's. Let us know ;)