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annalyzer
10-04-2008, 02:13 PM
snip~ Pretty stupid if you ask me to be seen on video at the hotel.
Unless video shows him leaving the hotel and coming back in the morning it only shows he was where he was supposed to be.
I have been thinking about the newspaper guy. He obviously saw something that made him think a car was being loaded. It was rumored that perhaps Cassie was taken out of the house for the day. Maybe the newspaper guy saw them putting Cassie's car seat in the car. Wonder if the car seat was in Michelle's car when police arrived. Could it have been Michelle's car he saw? Was her car light colored?
It also said on the S/W that the delivery person said the car was similar to a Ford Explorer. Which is what J was driving.
annalyzer
10-04-2008, 02:32 PM
Really ?
Yep. Now if he's seen leaving the hotel and coming back in the morning then yes, that is really stupid. Otherwise it only shows he is where he is supposed to be, at the hotel.
My question would be how could he not be seen leaving and coming back if there is video of him at the hotel? And if LE has this video of him leaving and coming back in the morning why hasnt there been an arrest?
annalyzer
10-04-2008, 03:10 PM
Cause not all the cameras record 24/7.
I wish they'd have released cell phone pings or something, anything. Geez this case drives me bonkers. They've already released the cell phone pings, calls and times, etc. in the Casey Anthony case.
Who said he is smart ? Pretty stupid if you ask me to be seen on video at the hotel. Again, you have no idea what prints were visible and where they were.
I know someone who stayed in that hotel. The first floor is the only floor with a full vending area (snacks, drinks, etc.). Grabbing a midnight snack after a long drive would not be uncommon and certainly is not a measure of intelligence.
Cardinal
10-04-2008, 04:18 PM
I know someone who stayed in that hotel. The first floor is the only floor with a full vending area (snacks, drinks, etc.). Grabbing a midnight snack after a long drive would not be uncommon and certainly is not a measure of intelligence.
And where, in relation to the lobby, is this vending area?
Really ?
He is seen out of his room at 11:59 PM, yet there is no key re-entry
What about the dark striped pullover that was never found......
Being seen on video was a huge mistake in his murder plan.
Many who felt JY did this believed it was a rage killing. If part of the 'plan' was to drive hours to the hotel and then hours back in the middle of the night, that hardly sounds like a rage based murder. Could it have been? Sure. Anything's possible.
Cause not all the cameras record 24/7.
Even if that's true in this case, if it *was* recording when he was walking towards the exit, then we're talking seconds, maybe a minute before he got to the door. The likelihood of the camera being 'stopped' during the short timeframe is pretty low IMO.
And where, in relation to the lobby, is this vending area?
That was the first question I asked and this person couldn't remember. If you're really interested in playing detective, you may be able to get that info by calling the hotel.....Or, if someone who follows this board lives in the vicinity of the hotel, perhaps they could pay it a visit and let us know.
Hey, wouldn't that be something if we solved it before LE!!!! :cool:
Cardinal
10-04-2008, 04:35 PM
That was the first question I asked and this person couldn't remember. If you're really interested in playing detective, you may be able to get that info by calling the hotel.....Or, if someone who follows this board lives in the vicinity of the hotel, perhaps they could pay it a visit and let us know.
Hey, wouldn't that be something if we solved it before LE!!!! :cool:
I've stayed in several hotels that had only a central vending area on the first floor. In all of them, the vending area was in an alcove just off the lobby, away from the guest rooms. In the last photo, Jason is already in a hall of guest rooms. I don't see a snack.
JMO
Consider the rage hit him when the strangulation failed.
Adrenaline pumping while he made sure she was dead.
Sure, that's possible.......and, it just once again leads to the discussion about a 6ft+ guy somehow failing to strangulate a much smaller woman who was awoken in the middle of the night. I'm just goin' with the odds. A failed strangulation is certainly a possibility.
True, the snack vending is on the first floor but it is not in the path of the south exit where he was headed in a change of clothing.
I'd expect a change of clothing. I would hope he wouldn't sleep in the same shirt he wore during the day/early evening. My wife won't let me do that!
A 'minute' before he walked 10-20 feet to the door :shrug:
The cameras record at random, so a sudden cut at that point is very plausible.
I said seconds too. The briefer the time period, the stronger it makes my point. A random recording? 'Plausible' that it 'suddenly' cut off during those seconds it took him to walk to the door? Sure. Plausible, possible, pick your word. Survey 100 people and I'd assert that the vast majority would lean towards it not being likely. However, that's just an opinion of course. Everyone exercises their own judgement that the good lord gave us all.
Odds ?
What are you suggesting ?
Do you somehow think a woman killed Michelle ?
Odds=probability=likelihood. I have no idea who killed Michelle. My point was that a failed strangulation isn't 'consistent' with the size and strength difference of JY and MY......not to mention that she was almost certainly awoken in the middle of the night and hence not as alert as she'd be in the middle of the day.
Cardinal
10-04-2008, 04:56 PM
I said seconds too. The briefer the time period, the stronger it makes my point. A random recording? 'Plausible' that it 'suddenly' cut off during those seconds it took him to talke to the door? Sure. Plausible, possible, pick your word. Survey 100 people and I'd assert that the vast majority would lean towards it not being likely. However, that's just an opinion of course. Everyone exercises their own judgement that the good lord gave us all.
Survey me, and I'd say that a video still attached to a SW may or may not be all that was recorded.
Cardinal
10-04-2008, 04:59 PM
Odds=probability=likelihood. I have no idea who killed Michelle. My point was that a failed strangulation isn't 'consistent' with the size and strength difference of JY and MY......not to mention that she was almost certainly awoken in the middle of the night and hence not as alert as she'd be in the middle of the day.
I don't think Michelle slept in black pants, a tshirt and zipped up hoodie.
sonya
10-04-2008, 06:27 PM
Sure, that's possible.......and, it just once again leads to the discussion about a 6ft+ guy somehow failing to strangulate a much smaller woman who was awoken in the middle of the night. I'm just goin' with the odds. A failed strangulation is certainly a possibility.
A well placed kick could have stopped the strangulation attempt, easily
sonya
10-04-2008, 06:27 PM
+ no shoes in a cold room w/ no heat makes perfect sense to me.
and to me also...
5swab5
10-04-2008, 06:49 PM
This thread is reloading SO slow for me.
OK, if I go ahead and start a new thread?
Anybody?/Everybody?
Swabby
Cardinal
10-04-2008, 06:53 PM
This thread is reloading SO slow for me.
OK, if I go ahead and start a new thread?
Anybody?/Everybody?
Swabby
Great idea :)
5swab5
10-04-2008, 06:55 PM
Great idea :)
KEWL!
Thanks!
Done deal!
sonya
10-04-2008, 07:11 PM
Only momentarily. It isn't rational to believe a well-placed kick would stop a strangulation altogether any more than it is rational to believe one killer changed shoes twice. :lol:
Sorry, but I believe that a well placed kick could have given Michelle the moment or moments she needed to get his hands off her throat. There were scratches made by her own nails on her neck, so that backs my theory and actually it is absolutely rational. Have a nice day...
Survey me, and I'd say that a video still attached to a SW may or may not be all that was recorded.
May or may not? Does that mean you think it's more likely or less likely that more was recorded? If more likely, then what would you think that 'secret' piece likely might be? If there isn't anything you think is more likely than not, then your post simply states possibilities. If so, then consider your statement of possibility acknowledged.
14 cameras with 1 recorder.
Why is it so hard for you understand that the video would suddenly cut off ?
I most definitely understand that it's possible the video might have suddenly cut off during the seconds it would have taken him to walk out the door. The question is, is it likely? If you think so, then I respect that opinion but don't share it.
A well placed kick could have stopped the strangulation attempt, easily
Sure, you're right, it 'could' have.
5swab5
10-04-2008, 07:52 PM
C'mon hardheads. The new thread refreshes in half the time.
Swabby
Lord, I hope I do this right.
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