Sunday, 9/28, Afternoon/Evening, Day 104

[spiritwolf46]

*smoochies House*

spirit how is the chia pet?? lol

i actually think there is no news coz its gonna come fast and furious in the next couple days----Yuri may be injured but hes not down for the count...

he's so subtle----watch cindys interview again he says so much without saying much----im sure they have the goods on these people read my new siggy says it all


I am with ya. I think that something really big is about to happen. I think that LE is just waiting for the triple check on evidence to come in and then we may see a murderer go to her last and final residence. I also agree with you aboutn Yuri. There is so much that you can read between the lines on and he and the rest have got the goods on this case. I just feel it!

Chia is doing GREAT! Everytime I see it, I have the greatest laugh and I love it! Nothing better! LMAO!

I wonder if LE will be able to get anything on Cindy and Lee, since they have been known to lie during questioning. NO, I do not have a link, so those of you who want one, I don't have one. I do remember some who have talked to Lee saying that he has been caught in many lies and let's face it, we all saw Cindy's interview where they are basically calling her on her own words.

I guess we will see in a matter of weeks, here. This should be pretty interesing.

:rose:For Caylee

[Joan Weiss]

Especially if they held her hands. :biggrin:


Ah yes, for transcription, DUH, I didn't think of that, thanks.I just watched a true crime story, not scripted. The interrogator held the convicted murderer's hands, so she would 'fess up. It was on the Discovery channel. The convicted murderer had killed her child, and the interrogator was the doctor on "Most Evil."

It's a tactic; they get up in their face and it sometimes works. I found that so interesting. Yuri did the same thing with Cindy.

Hope you don't mind that I used your post to bring that up. :seeya:

imo

[day2day]

It's fairly common to sell donated t-shirts to raise money for a cause. imo

Oh i don't have a problem with people selling shirts. Most people who have a missing persons trust fund-to search for a littleone..actually search!...

IMO the Anthony's are really going to hurt the next family that reallly WOULD search for their missing loved one.

I do know ebay has stopped the sale of Caylee Shirts and bracelets. I am proud of them.

jmo

[Ckrdpast]

I know you were talking to him but I just remembered by your post i need to do that. Thank you.


msn messenger live version 8.1 goofus

i think you may have a kink in your slinky:)

[5boxersmom]

I just checked alot of the online local papers. Nothing there about the vigil.

Thanks. Maybe they will have it on at 11.

[spiritwolf46]

It's fairly common to sell donated t-shirts to raise money for a cause. imo

But what cause would that be in this case? You know that I mean no disrespect at all towards you, or at least I hope you know, but in this case, I am truly wondering what cause that may be?

[bchand]

I'm not sure what to make of the Tony posts honestly. I know how people fake stuff on the net especially after the Shawn Hornbeck case.


That reminded me. I forgot to watch the show last night that Shawn was on. Did you see it?

[Joan Weiss]

There was someone on there that answered ? with the nic of TonyL. Don't know if he was real or an imposter. JMOIt could be one of his roommates. imo

[~jomomma~]

i'm just now listening to george's interview.

he describes what pants casey had on when her and caylee left on the 16th (the last time he saw caylee)

he said they were charcoal slacks with pin stripes

is that the same description of the pants cindy washed??

sorry if this has already been discussed....i've been away from computer

[Pag Boi]

Oh, but the majority here would not believe you. I believe you, I'm just saying.

Your point is? The majority here prolly didn't believe your muriatic acid theory. But you were allowed to post freely about it. __________I'm just saying.

SM is no different than any other website. The site owner administers his board as he sees fit. I have never come across an admin that wasn't looking for ways to improve his site__________to increase his hits.


Who cares if you are majority or minority? I am just me and my ops don't just fit neatly into a category. I imagine there are many other posters that form their own thoughts despite what the in-crowd or the minority OP is. JMOO

[Ckrdpast]

the proud grandparents quit holding vigils last week ---- as it make the natives restless

[spiritwolf46]

Oh i don't have a problem with people selling shirts. Most people who have a missing persons trust fund-to search for a littleone..actually search!...

IMO the Anthony's are really going to hurt the next family that reallly WOULD search for their missing loved one.

I do know ebay has stopped the sale of Caylee Shirts and bracelets. I am proud of them.

jmo

ITA with this whole post, day2!

[hamebone]

sharkie---we need to talk ---- about georges involment its becoming really clear to me now---do you run any IM programs?

I want to know too.....:(

[?noanswer]

the proud grandparents quit holding vigils last week ---- as it make the natives restless

But they were supposed to have one again tonight. The link for the information was posted earlier. JMO

[BrownEyedF]

I want to know each and every business that Zenaida denied her employment because of her name, seriously. This woman is a parasite, sadly Caseys lies are the biggest thing to ever happen to her, so she better milk it for all its worth, shes a real piece of work I tell ya, everyone is trying to make their buck, which seems to be Zenaidas new way to get money, almost every aspect of this case makes me sick. moo


Would you feel the same way if she had named your name and described your car? Hmmmm

[bchand]

It could be one of his roommates. imo

His temp roommate Clint also has a thread over there.

[Joan Weiss]

But what cause would that be in this case? You know that I mean no disrespect at all towards you, or at least I hope you know, but in this case, I am truly wondering what cause that may be?Of course, and I hope you took my post as merely informative.

I was just pointing that out, because I had been involved in forming a non-profit corporation and I'm familiar with their procedures. imo

[need2no]

I just watched a true crime story, not scripted. The interrogator held the convicted murderer's hands, so she would 'fess up. It was on the Discovery channel. The convicted murderer had killed her child, and the interrogator was the doctor on "Most Evil."

It's a tactic; they get up in their face and it sometimes works. I found that so interesting. Yuri did the same thing with Cindy.

Hope you don't mind that I used your post to bring that up. :seeya:

imo


Don't mind at all. I recall Sheriff Wells did a good bit of coddling Susan Smith to get her to confess.

I think Yuri was really trying to get through to Cindy.....but GOOD LUCK with that. :D

[day2day]

the proud grandparents quit holding vigils last week ---- as it make the natives restless

They had another one tonight. The trust fund also reopened today...hammer

[spiritwolf46]

Lmao :punch: don't pick on me

Or your slinky! :eek: ;)

[Joan Weiss]

His temp roommate Clint also has a thread over there.This is getting crazier every day. :chicken:

I had to take a break from this board today, it's getting to me. :(

imo

[?noanswer]

His temp roommate Clint also has a thread over there.


Hope they don't start posting conflicting information. JB will have Casey watching all day to get information so that he can impeach them if they testify in the trial. JMO

[bluwaters]

Neighbors Joined Anthony Family For Vigil
http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

[spiritwolf46]

Of course, and I hope you took my post as merely informative.

I was just pointing that out, because I had been involved in forming a non-profit corporation and I'm familiar with their procedures. imo


Gotcha! Thank you so much! :seeya:

[LynnD]

I'm just not convinced we will ever know exactly how much was donated. If i set up a booth at Publix and collected $500.00 in cash- I could easily turn in $300.00 and pocket the $200.00 -noone would ever be the wiser. Sorta like Cindy did with the $200.00 in Casey's wallet!
I also hope to see the list of gift cards -
It will be so interesting to see how they spent the money..:)

jmo of course. :seeya:

Oh yeah that would be great!Are they using gas cards donated to drive Casey to her lawyers office,EVERYDAY?Are they using gift cards to feed Casey and buy ingredents for brownies barf

[Joan Weiss]

I noticed he didn't respond to the question about whether Casey sent him the message about if they don't find Caylee.........If it's him, maybe LE instructed him not to talk about the testimony evidence?

[day2day]

Neighbors Joined Anthony Family For Vigil
http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

Thanks blu!! :seeya:

[Ckrdpast]

shirley you jest?

may i call you shirley?

[bchand]

This is getting crazier every day. :chicken:

I had to take a break from this board today, it's getting to me. :(

imo

Me too and I got a whole lot accomplished.

[day2day]

Oh yeah that would be great!Are they using gas cards donated to drive Casey to her lawyers office,EVERYDAY?Are they using gift cards to feed Casey and buy ingredents for brownies barf

Exactly..and the bottled water they donated on camera to the guardian angels ;)...

jmo

[barskin&co.]

Hope they don't start posting conflicting information. JB will have Casey watching all day to get information so that he can impeach them if they testify in the trial. JMO

I haven't seen any conflicting information at all about the fundementals. I was going to talk about more, but it comes from another site.

[Rayosunshine]

How do you no what the majority here think? I read it I thinks it is him.

Why did you post about "if we knew who the real sammy was wouldnt be laughing"....I asked who is sammy?...why bring it up at all, if its a big secret?...Ive been out of grade school for many moons...and that is just what it feels like ...a very juvenile attitude going on here...IMO

good grief...

Considering the way you treated me with the above post, do you really think I owe you an explanation? I wouldn't wast my time. Shame on you.

[5boxersmom]

Neighbors Joined Anthony Family For Vigil
http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

Thank you. So the protestors were there.


The vigils start back up the day the trust is opened back up? Hmmmm:read:

jmo

[dtviewer]

Didn't you just post a few moments ago that you didn't believe *either of them*? I believe thats your post I originally replied to.So I take it, you now believe Rick, but not so much its Tony? Have you read his responses to the questions posed to him? Seems pretty plausible to me.


Heres the post you responded to:
"Originally Posted by dtviewer
No I didnt...and I also didnt when Rick was on Topix.
I just dont buy it.....I would need some proof it was really either of them before going with what they say."

I havent read Tone' over at SM...and probably wont. But if it turns out there is viable proof it is him, I'm sure it would be pretty interesting.

And yes, I have no reason not to believe what Rick stated now that I heard him on Greta.

[day2day]

Thank you. So the protestors were there.


The vigils start back up the day the trust is opened back up? Hmmmm:read:

jmo

ABSOLUTELY!! lol

[shelbar53]

turn on geraldo now,HE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT CASEY

[mosey2]

Hi Mosey......I love the hell out of your post also but have been missing you.......sometimes I would be here late at night trying to figure out stuff and then you would come on FULL SPEED AHEAD with great post.

Yeah Cindy speak......Casey speak......we are learning now arnt we? Thank GOD these Monsters do not come our way often and is why we need to re-think our own why with words. Such a lesson in life for everyone here and I say teach your children well......if they are of the age to show these pics of Casey and the fact she looks perfectly normal....HOWEVER beware what is behind that pretty face.......BUYER BEWARE!!!........

My dad always did that with me and maybe that is why I have never had to tangle with a sociopath before. However I have known one.......at a distance. I have studie plenty of them......hence I am here.......I am just terribly afraid that this is an extream case of something that we will all see in the future. Detatched personalities. Virtual Realities vs Reality
It's a new generation. They "hook-up" via Myspace and Facebook (ironically named) instead of going out and meeting people face-to-face in the real world. Present the REAL person to society. Instead they cell, text, message, PM, IM, Email. The lack of real conversation and the accountability attached is making the new generation robotic drones who depend on the number of friends on their Myspace page for self-esteem

Soon it will have a whole new name and Syndrom attached

[joolz]

Considering the way you treated me with the above post, do you really think I owe you an explanation? I wouldn't wast my time. Shame on you.


I asked you very courteously who Sammy is several pages back and never got a reply, so you can't blame the fact that you won't answer on the way you are being treated. Of course you don't owe anyone an explanation, but if you are going to make cryptic statements implying that you know a secret about who Sammy really is, you are going to get requests to share the information instead of just dropping hints. JMO

[Joan Weiss]

Don't mind at all. I recall Sheriff Wells did a good bit of coddling Susan Smith to get her to confess.

I think Yuri was really trying to get through to Cindy.....but GOOD LUCK with that. :DThanks. I didn't follow Susan Smith that closely, it made me ill. I have three sons.

Yep, I think Yuri tried really hard with Cindy. She's steel, I tell ya.

:eek: imo

[need2no]

turn on geraldo now,HE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT CASEY


Yes, he saved about 5 minutes of his show for this..wonder how much of the 5 minutes will be Geraldo and his guests talking.........

[Joan Weiss]

I asked you very courteously who Sammy is several pages back and never got a reply, so you can't blame the fact that you won't answer on the way you are being treated. Of course you don't owe anyone an explanation, but if you are going to make cryptic statements implying that you know a secret about who Sammy really is, you are going to get requests to share the information instead of just dropping hints. JMOAh, joolz, welcome back! :D

[dtviewer]

I asked you very courteously who Sammy is several pages back and never got a reply, so you can't blame the fact that you won't answer on the way you are being treated. Of course you don't owe anyone an explanation, but if you are going to make cryptic statements implying that you know a secret about who Sammy really is, you are going to get requests to share the information instead of just dropping hints. JMO

Others have asked also joolz, but Ray' doesnt/wont/cant answer for some reason.
I dont get it...I thought we were here to discuss the Caylee mystery........but what do I know...:shrug:

[barskin&co.]

I want to thank those of you who were so kind to complement me on my "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" analogy to this case. Might I just point out however to people who refer to it as a movie, and I think Edward Albee would back my up on this, it was a play :biggrin: that was made into a movie.

[Joan Weiss]

I am just terribly afraid that this is an extream case of something that we will all see in the future. Detatched personalities. Virtual Realities vs Reality
It's a new generation. They "hook-up" via Myspace and Facebook (ironically named) instead of going out and meeting people face-to-face in the real world. Present the REAL person to society. Instead they cell, text, message, PM, IM, Email. The lack of real conversation and the accountability attached is making the new generation robotic drones who depend on the number of friends on their Myspace page for self-esteem

Soon it will have a whole new name and Syndrom attachedThat's very interesting, mosey. Great theory. :cool:

[5boxersmom]

Ok Craig Rivera just said the Super Secret Body Farm. :)

[joolz]

Ah, joolz, welcome back! :D

Thank you Joan, glad to be back from camp. :D

I'm watching Geraldo right now and I'm not learning anything new. Not such a surprise, huh?

[Joan Weiss]

I want to thank those of you who were so kind to complement me on my "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" analogy to this case. Might I just point out however to people who refer to it as a movie, and I think Edward Albee would back my up on this, it was a play :biggrin: that was made into a movie.Liz Taylor was fantastic. So is Edward Albee. He must have had an interesting life.

Good analogy, congratulations. :cool:

[Joan Weiss]

Thank you Joan, glad to be back from camp. :D

I'm watching Geraldo right now and I'm not learning anything new. Not such a surprise, huh?I didn't even bother to turn it on. ;)

[joolz]

Others have asked also joolz, but Ray' doesnt/wont/cant answer for some reason.
I dont get it...I thought we were here to discuss the Caylee mystery........but what do I know...:shrug:


At least as much as most of us and, uh, quite a bit more than some? :D

[Rayosunshine]

I asked you very courteously who Sammy is several pages back and never got a reply, so you can't blame the fact that you won't answer on the way you are being treated. Of course you don't owe anyone an explanation, but if you are going to make cryptic statements implying that you know a secret about who Sammy really is, you are going to get requests to share the information instead of just dropping hints. JMO

For all anyone knows, I didn't answer because I may have been away from my computer - I am caring for a 3 year old granddaughter. Further, I think I will let the person who first brought up Sammy decide when and if anything will be posted, and that person was not me. That would be the fair thing to do, don't you think?

So, if I don't answer posts, it's not that I don't want to, maybe I have other things to do and maybe I don't feel it is my place to post what another has found, since I would not have the details. You know, "the link".

[barskin&co.]

Considering the way you treated me with the above post, do you really think I owe you an explanation? I wouldn't wast my time. Shame on you.

May I ask, who is Sammy? What is this Sammy reference all about, as you see it?

[day2day]

May I ask, who is Sammy? What is this Sammy reference all about, as you see it?

I think the answer is ---no!!

[mosey2]

Thank you Dixie and Joan. Now, see, if you were here beside me, I'd give you a big ((hug)) (she says from behind her keyboard) lol

[Joan Weiss]

Thank you. So the protestors were there.


The vigils start back up the day the trust is opened back up? Hmmmm:read:

jmoSo why is the cam still stuck on garbage day? Grrrrr....:cuss:

[need2no]

I didn't even bother to turn it on. ;)

You didn't miss anything except a couple of gross pics from the Body Farm.

[barskin&co.]

For all anyone knows, I didn't answer because I may have been away from my computer - I am caring for a 3 year old granddaughter. Further, I think I will let the person who first brought up Sammy decide when and if anything will be posted, and that person was not me. That would be the fair thing to do, don't you think?

So, if I don't answer posts, it's not that I don't want to, maybe I have other things to do and maybe I don't feel it is my place to post what another has found, since I would not have the details. You know, "the link".

No, but you did bring up Sammy. You said "we wouldn't be laughing if we knew who Sammy was." And why wouldn't "the person who first brought up Sammy" not explain who Sammy is when he or she brought the subject up?

[Joan Weiss]

Thank you Dixie and Joan. Now, see, if you were here beside me, I'd give you a big ((hug)) (she says from behind her keyboard) lolcyber {smooch} :D

[5boxersmom]

So why is the cam still stuck on garbage day? Grrrrr....:cuss:

I noticed that too. :)

[hamebone]

Considering the way you treated me with the above post, do you really think I owe you an explanation? I wouldn't wast my time. Shame on you.

Dont use my post to you as an excuse for not telling me who Sammy is. You have been asked several times by different posters.

Shame on me for what?

I have a right to my opinion on anything written here. I think its silly to tease..but hey knock yourself out. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.


:seeya:

[joolz]

For all anyone knows, I didn't answer because I may have been away from my computer - I am caring for a 3 year old granddaughter. Further, I think I will let the person who first brought up Sammy decide when and if anything will be posted, and that person was not me. That would be the fair thing to do, don't you think?

So, if I don't answer posts, it's not that I don't want to, maybe I have other things to do and maybe I don't feel it is my place to post what another has found, since I would not have the details. You know, "the link".


It's up to you to decide what to share and what not to share. All I am saying is that if you drop hints about things you should expect people to ask questions. If you don't want to be asked questions, then perhaps you and the poster who first brought the idea up should use pms. IMO, that is the better suited format for private conversations that are meant to exclude others. After all, this is a message board where sharing information and ideas is the norm. JOM of course.

[Joan Weiss]

YES I know however when you look at it from a forensic point of view it is a DETs playground......of course that is after the fact......after a crime has been committed.....Yet I hope I am right in thinking this will be a deterrent.

Like my best friend told me after I had been out of the US for awhile when all this technology exploded......."You can`t get by with nothing these days".........John Douglas wrote a book about it, "Anyone you want me to be."

I don't think Casey and Lee are very bright. They should watch CTV, lol...

[Pag Boi]

Would you feel the same way if she had named your name and described your car? Hmmmm

Well IF I had the name Zenadia Fernandez-Gonzalez, I had been ID'd via a photo and I had proof that I owned a 2008 silver ford since 2006, then I would feel differently.

But if I am unemployed, missing a hypen and my Fernandez, have an olderer child with a "profession" and 2 very young kids to feed then hmmmm. What's the downside for her? If she loses, then her lawyer doesn't get paid. If she wins, she gets mebbe 30% of the settlement.

IMO, this person is just another case character - in a long, long line- with 15 minutes and a fantasy______

[Joan Weiss]

It's up to you to decide what to share and what not to share. All I am saying is that if you drop hints about things you should expect people to ask questions. If you don't want to be asked questions, then perhaps you and the poster who first brought the idea up should use pms. IMO, that is the better suited format for private conversations that are meant to exclude others. After all, this is a message board where sharing information and ideas is the norm. JOM of course.That's a beautifully worded statement, joolz.

:beer:

[Rayosunshine]

You didn't miss anything except a couple of gross pics from the Body Farm.


You mean they didn't confirm the evidence?

[Pruddennce]

just catching up reading some docs.....

anyone take a look at the forensics on her laptop:

bill payer for AT&T:

and the amount of her bills each month...outrageous...who was paying these bills? 2007 the amounts are unbelievable. $800 and some dollars in 12/07 !!

any clue whose name is blacked out next to her name?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

best regards,
Pru

[day2day]

John Douglas wrote a book about it, "Anyone you want me to be."

I don't think Casey and Lee are very bright. They should watch CTV, lol...

I am going to have to buy that book!! I love John Douglas. I was hoping he would give his opinion on this case!!

I agree about Casey and Lee...they aren't as smart as they think they are..jmo!!

:seeya:

[Rayosunshine]

Dont use my post to you as an excuse for not telling me who Sammy is. You have been asked several times by different posters.

Shame on me for what?

I have a right to my opinion on anything written here. I think its silly to tease..but hey knock yourself out. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.


:seeya:

As I explained earlier, I will leave it up to the person who first brought up the topic of Sammy to explain. I don't have the "LINK", please.

[joolz]

Well IF I had the name Zenadia Fernandez-Gonzalez, I had been ID'd via a photo and I had proof that I owned a 2008 silver ford since 2006, then I would feel differently.

But if I am unemployed, missing a hypen and my Fernandez, have an olderer child with a "profession" and 2 very young kids to feed then hmmmm. What's the downside for her? If she loses, then her lawyer doesn't get paid. If she wins, she gets mebbe 30% of the settlement.

IMO, this person is just another case character - in a long, long line- with 15 minutes and a fantasy______


Since I never got a reply when I asked about the "profession" of ZF-G's child, perhaps you can enlighten me what it is. TIA

[dtviewer]

[QUOTE=Rayosunshine;12202316]For all anyone knows, I didn't answer because I may have been away from my computer - I am caring for a 3 year old granddaughter. Further, I think I will let the person who first brought up Sammy decide when and if anything will be posted, and that person was not me. That would be the fair thing to do, don't you think?

--snipped---QUOTE]


This is getting childish......

I didnt know we were here playing little "I know info but am not sharing it" game.
If you make comments like "If you knew who Sammy was you wouldnt be laughing", you better expect questions from posters who have been here for hours and hours since this all started.
If you are refering to 'Daddysgirl' as the person who first brought up 'Sammy', then you are being ridiculous. Padilla is the first person who brought up 'Sammy'.

BTW, 'DaddysGirl' said that "Mr Grund now believes that 'Sammy' HAS Caylee".
Of course Daddysgirl never backed up that statement, though many posters have asked her where she read that or heard it.

[spiritwolf46]

Lmao exactly . See I loves you spirit :D


LOL! You too, Rebel!!!! And I love your posts! Keep em coming!

:rose: For Caylee!

[Rayosunshine]

[QUOTE=Rayosunshine;12202316]For all anyone knows, I didn't answer because I may have been away from my computer - I am caring for a 3 year old granddaughter. Further, I think I will let the person who first brought up Sammy decide when and if anything will be posted, and that person was not me. That would be the fair thing to do, don't you think?

--snipped---QUOTE]


This is getting childish......

I didnt know we were here playing little "I know info but am not sharing it" game.
If you make comments like "If you knew who Sammy was you wouldnt be laughing", you better expect questions from posters who have been here for hours and hours since this all started.
If you are refering to 'Daddysgirl' as the person who first brought up 'Sammy', then you are being ridiculous. Padilla is the first person who brought up 'Sammy'.

BTW, 'DaddysGirl' said that "Mr Grund now believes that 'Sammy' HAS Caylee".
Of course Daddysgirl never backed up that statement, though many posters have asked her where she read that or heard it.

Sorry DT, I have very little information on Sammy and I don't have the "LINK" please.

[Joan Weiss]

Well IF I had the name Zenadia Fernandez-Gonzalez, I had been ID'd via a photo and I had proof that I owned a 2008 silver ford since 2006, then I would feel differently.

But if I am unemployed, missing a hypen and my Fernandez, have an olderer child with a "profession" and 2 very young kids to feed then hmmmm. What's the downside for her? If she loses, then her lawyer doesn't get paid. If she wins, she gets mebbe 30% of the settlement.

IMO, this person is just another case character - in a long, long line- with 15 minutes and a fantasy______You shouldn't libel people, CW doesn't like it.

And usually the attorney gets 30%, plus paperwork costs. imo

[joolz]

That's a beautifully worded statement, joolz.

:beer:

TY Joan - You are no slouch in that department yourself. And I cling firmly to the fading idea that the pen can be mightier than the sword. :)

[Joan Weiss]

Wait till the neglect trial starts, then it will get really crazyI think that would be a relief. I think it's going to get delayed, though. imo

[barskin&co.]

For all anyone knows, I didn't answer because I may have been away from my computer - I am caring for a 3 year old granddaughter. Further, I think I will let the person who first brought up Sammy decide when and if anything will be posted, and that person was not me. That would be the fair thing to do, don't you think?

--snipped---QUOTE]


This is getting childish......

I didnt know we were here playing little "I know info but am not sharing it" game.
If you make comments like "If you knew who Sammy was you wouldnt be laughing", you better expect questions from posters who have been here for hours and hours since this all started.
If you are refering to 'Daddysgirl' as the person who first brought up 'Sammy', then you are being ridiculous. Padilla is the first person who brought up 'Sammy'.

BTW, 'DaddysGirl' said that "Mr Grund now believes that 'Sammy' HAS Caylee".
Of course Daddysgirl never backed up that statement, though many posters have asked her where she read that or heard it.

Well, it's time for backup ping pong. Poster A makes a wild unverified statement, refuses to explain it, then Poster B claims inside info and says "Wow, if you ever knew," and then when she is asked for backup, it's "Oh, I can't do that, that's up to Poster A."

[dtviewer]

[QUOTE=dtviewer;12202357]

Sorry DT, I have very little information on Sammy and I don't have the "LINK" please.

Then why did you make the 'If you knew who Sammy...' comment?

[Joan Weiss]

TY Joan - You are no slouch in that department yourself. And I cling firmly to the fading idea that the pen can be mightier than the sword. :)I love it! {hugs} :patriot:

[mosey2]

just catching up reading some docs.....

anyone take a look at the forensics on her laptop:

bill payer for AT&T:

and the amount of her bills each month...outrageous...who was paying these bills? 2007 the amounts are unbelievable. $800 and some dollars in 12/07 !!

any clue whose name is blacked out next to her name?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

best regards,
PruMy guess would be Amy Huizenga. Casey probably added her in order to use her payment info. The last payment date was the day Cindy called 911

[day2day]

Wait till the neglect trial starts, then it will get really crazy

IMO the neglect trial will never start. She will be charged with murder first! :seeya:

[joolz]

Well, it's time for backup ping pong. Poster A makes a wild unverified statement, refuses to explain it, then Poster B claims inside info and says "Wow, if you ever knew," and then we she is asked for backup, it's "Oh, I can't do that, that's up to Poster A."

:lol: Back up ping pong, I love it!

[Ckrdpast]

Well, it's time for backup ping pong. Poster A makes a wild unverified statement, refuses to explain it, then Poster B claims inside info and says "Wow, if you ever knew," and then when she is asked for backup, it's "Oh, I can't do that, that's up to Poster A."


knock it off barb your making too much sense on this board~!!:cool:

[Joan Weiss]

Yes......Hi Joan......I read that book it was very good......Now I am studying Susan Smith.....for a second time because I always forget stuff.........

Yes I think Cindy also needs to learn some stuff about modern technology also.......Just saw that serial killer case today, on TV.

Too late for Cindy, she should have started her studies a couple of years ago, imo.

[hamebone]

As I explained earlier, I will leave it up to the person who first brought up the topic of Sammy to explain. I don't have the "LINK", please.

Fair enough Isabell.

I mean no ill will toward you at all.

I just hate confusion on the board alot of posters work and dont have the time to dig into the docs like others do. Thats why I always try and help out with links when I can.

I hope Caylee is alive or hid somewhere. I would love to be wrong in thinking that smell was her remains. I would never be hostile towards someone for hoping she is ok. I dont know why the board has to turn ugly many, poster have many, different takes and none are right or wrong yet...because we havent seen it laid out in a court of law.

[barskin&co.]

My guess would be Amy Huizenga. Casey probably added her in order to use her payment info. The last payment date was the day Cindy called 911

Yes, remember the arrest affadavit about her thefts from Amy there was an electronic check to AT&T for $574.

[Joan Weiss]

knock it off barb your making too much sense on this board~!!:cool:Gotta love her. :D

[need2no]

just catching up reading some docs.....

anyone take a look at the forensics on her laptop:

bill payer for AT&T:

and the amount of her bills each month...outrageous...who was paying these bills? 2007 the amounts are unbelievable. $800 and some dollars in 12/07 !!

any clue whose name is blacked out next to her name?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

best regards,
Pru


Universal Studios? :D J/K

That's is interesting, don't know that I've ever paid much attention to that BIG BLACK MARK THROUGH beside Casey's name, and there is a comma after her name. Did she have to have a co-signer for a cell phone?

Surely Cindy wouldn't pay these bills for her.........

[mosey2]

The email and picture of Mark Hawkin's were in "Unallocated clusters" on the computer and were last accessed early morning on July 16. Does that mean Casey deleted them at that time??:shrug:

[Pag Boi]

For all anyone knows, I didn't answer because I may have been away from my computer - I am caring for a 3 year old granddaughter. Further, I think I will let the person who first brought up Sammy decide when and if anything will be posted, and that person was not me. That would be the fair thing to do, don't you think?

So, if I don't answer posts, it's not that I don't want to, maybe I have other things to do and maybe I don't feel it is my place to post what another has found, since I would not have the details. You know, "the link".


For all anyone knows, you are just posing. But it seems more connected to the case if anyone just lets you make cryptic comments, I do think.

For all we know, you could be talking about Sammy Sosa, Sammy Davis, Jr. or Sammy Hagar. If it it related to Casey, my best guess is she was Slamming Sammy.

Until you solve your own mystery, we're left to our imaginations :nono:

[Ckrdpast]

Gotta love her. :D
i think she knows i love her---but she is cwazy!!!:)

[Joan Weiss]

just catching up reading some docs.....

anyone take a look at the forensics on her laptop:

bill payer for AT&T:

and the amount of her bills each month...outrageous...who was paying these bills? 2007 the amounts are unbelievable. $800 and some dollars in 12/07 !!

any clue whose name is blacked out next to her name?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

best regards,
PruThat is absolutely outrageous. I wonder if she told Cindy it was a "business expense?"

[spiritwolf46]

If They charge her with MURDER without a body...I believe it will be Murder 2. If they find a body or the remains depending on the location i think it will be MURDER 1

JMO


Do you know, or does anyone know how much time LE has to come up with a charge on Casey for either murder 1 or 2?

[hamebone]

just catching up reading some docs.....

anyone take a look at the forensics on her laptop:

bill payer for AT&T:

and the amount of her bills each month...outrageous...who was paying these bills? 2007 the amounts are unbelievable. $800 and some dollars in 12/07 !!

any clue whose name is blacked out next to her name?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

best regards,
Pru

Could she not get unlimited text...my daughter has it 50.00 a month and she can call unlimited two anywhere. I have the call unlimited but not text.

800.00 she could of paid rent on a place for that price.

I dont know what its like to live rich...never had the pleasure....so that blows my mind...800.00 geeez

[joolz]

Do you know, or does anyone know how much time LE has to come up with a charge on Casey for either murder 1 or 2?

I think there is no statute of limitations on murder, but I'm not sure.

[dtviewer]

[QUOTE=dtviewer;12202357]

Sorry DT, I have very little information on Sammy and I don't have the "LINK" please.

Not to beat this (or you) into the ground, but if you 'think' you know who Sammy really is based on what 'daddysgirl' told you in pm, and 'daddysgirl' didnt include a Link when she gave you that info, why would you come on here berating others about "if you knew who Sammy was you wouldnt be laughing'?

Do you have evidence or reason to believe that you REALLY know who Sammy is, and that there really IS a Sammy?

[spiritwolf46]

I think there is no statute of limitations on murder, but I'm not sure.


Thanks Joolz! Glad to see ya! :seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

LOL! You too, Rebel!!!! And I love your posts! Keep em coming!

:rose: For Caylee!I have to ditto that! Group {hugs} for Rebel.

:cool:

[need2no]

That is absolutely outrageous. I wonder if she told Cindy it was a "business expense?"


Somebody should have told her about unlimited texting...I had to find out the hard way....thanks to my teen son.

[mosey2]

Yes, remember the arrest affadavit about her thefts from Amy there was an electronic check to AT&T for $574.Well, there you are, then. The doc says a payment in the amount of $574.60 was made on 7/15/08
Casey sure got her cell phone paid right under the wire, didn't she. Too bad she just can't us it anymore:biggrin:

[5boxersmom]

Universal Studios? :D J/K

That's is interesting, don't know that I've ever paid much attention to that BIG BLACK MARK THROUGH beside Casey's name, and there is a comma after her name. Did she have to have a co-signer for a cell phone?

Surely Cindy wouldn't pay these bills for her.........

Lenny said, I know I know, that the phone was in Richard Grunds name.

Why? I would have no idea. Just what I heard him say on NG.

jmo

[dtviewer]

Do you know, or does anyone know how much time LE has to come up with a charge on Casey for either murder 1 or 2?

As long as they want. No statute of limitations on murder.

[Pag Boi]

Well, it's time for backup ping pong. Poster A makes a wild unverified statement, refuses to explain it, then Poster B claims inside info and says "Wow, if you ever knew," and then when she is asked for backup, it's "Oh, I can't do that, that's up to Poster A."

Is back up ping pong anything like cell tower ping ping? Casey triangulating all over hO"rlando :biggrin:

[need2no]

I think there is no statute of limitations on murder, but I'm not sure.


You are correct, there isn't.

[joolz]

Thanks Joolz! Glad to see ya! :seeya:


:cool: Back at'cha. But I still don't know if that info about the murder charge is correct or not.

BTW, is there a difference between the Super Secret Body Farm and the plain old Regular Body Farm? :D

[mosey2]

Do you know, or does anyone know how much time LE has to come up with a charge on Casey for either murder 1 or 2?There's no statute of limitations on Murder. They can take their sweet time

[Joan Weiss]

Somebody should have told her about unlimited texting...I had to find out the hard way....thanks to my teen son.I hate texting, but I had it in AZ. My son loves it, too. My plan was only a flat $50. Casey obviously was raised with a silver spoon, afford it or not. That woman is positively shameful. imo

[spiritwolf46]

As long as they want. No statute of limitations on murder.


TY! :seeya:

[mosey2]

I haven't gone through ALL the computer docs yet. I'm making a file and having my S/O's friend who is an expert in the field of computers ive me a run down on everythng in order so i can know what is what and when it occured. I'm no dummy when it comes to computers but some of this stuff i have forgotten and some i don't know for sure.

When he is done looking it over and filing everything for me in order i will post it on here on the links thread so it's easier for others to grasp and have access to. Like i said in so many words. i still have questions about the computer stuff and haven't went through all the docs.You are the most awsome of Rebeldom and I hail you:patriot:

[Joan Weiss]

I haven't gone through ALL the computer docs yet. I'm making a file and having my S/O's friend who is an expert in the field of computers ive me a run down on everythng in order so i can know what is what and when it occured. I'm no dummy when it comes to computers but some of this stuff i have forgotten and some i don't know for sure.

When he is done looking it over and filing everything for me in order i will post it on here on the links thread so it's easier for others to grasp and have access to. Like i said in so many words. i still have questions about the computer stuff and haven't went through all the docs.Wow, super sleuthing! Thank you so much for taking the time. I'm gonna love that. :cool:

[need2no]

Lenny said, I know I know, that the phone was in Richard Grunds name.

Why? I would have no idea. Just what I heard him say on NG.

jmo


Thanks, I heard him say that but I had forgotten....so much to keep up with in this case.

[spiritwolf46]

:cool: Back at'cha. But I still don't know if that info about the murder charge is correct or not.

BTW, is there a difference between the Super Secret Body Farm and the plain old Regular Body Farm? :D

LOL! I don't think there is a difference, but to Craig, there must be. ;)

[dtviewer]

[QUOTE=dtviewer;12202357]

Sammy is the deceased Grund family dog seen in pics with Caylee. The dog is in heaven. Casey used the name Sammy for who has Caylee. I say in Casey speak this is telling us Caylee is in heaven with Sammy.

We started talking about this hrs ago but do not remember page numbers it should be towards the start after 8.....I just connected the dots.......but was not the first to bring up SAMMY.........



Yes, 'I' know that Sammy was the dog, but DG supposedly PM'd Rayo with some super secret info on Sammy's REAL identity, and Ray mentioned on here "if you knew who Sammy really was".
I couple posters asked her who Sammy 'really' was, and Ray wont/cant tell.

[hamebone]

We should all know by now that this is desperate, attention seeking behavior reminiscent of junior high school.

Nothing of any value has ever come from posters who play the I've Got A Secret game. In fact, more often than not, misinformation and rumor is disseminated.

Given that we know who these folks are and that they have less than nothing to add to the discussion, why oh why oh why do they get so many responses with every desperate, attention seeking, junior high level post they make?

It's so cliche, but seriously ... things that aren't fed, die.

Now back to your regular programming. :seeya:


I agree, but I did really want to know who sammy is. I'm nosey like that.

[Acorn]

just catching up reading some docs.....

anyone take a look at the forensics on her laptop:

bill payer for AT&T:

and the amount of her bills each month...outrageous...who was paying these bills? 2007 the amounts are unbelievable. $800 and some dollars in 12/07 !!

any clue whose name is blacked out next to her name?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

best regards,
Pru

If you're talking about page 13, that's the account number that's blacked out.

[Joan Weiss]

[QUOTE=dtviewer;12202357]

Sammy is the deceased Grund family dog seen in pics with Caylee. The dog is in heaven. Casey used the name Sammy for who has Caylee. I say in Casey speak this is telling us Caylee is in heaven with Sammy.

We started talking about this hrs ago but do not remember page numbers it should be towards the start after 8.....I just connected the dots.......but was not the first to bring up SAMMY.........That's terrific, and it makes so much sense. Cindy did mention too that Caylee talked a lot about the puppy.

Brilliant deduction. :cool: imo

[VII]

iirc, no statute of limitations on murder, however, it'd be righteous to get the right/fitting charge as you can't be tried twice for the same crime. omo

[playnice]

Somebody should have told her about unlimited texting...I had to find out the hard way....thanks to my teen son.

I have verizon and its $10 a month for unlimited text and pics. But it have to be verizon to verizon. With all the contacts Casey had and the texting she did alot of those people may not have had the same cell provider. So even if she had unlimited she may have been charged for texting others with a different provider.

[Joan Weiss]

They can take as long as they want to charge her with either I think they will charge her before the neglect trial takes place. Last article I read said they would be charging and arresting Casey with connection to Caylee disappearence in weeks.

My opinion if everything goes down the way i think it will. Ckrdpast's theory from info we got about something else will come true.

TES is supposed to go back in 3 weeks and LE will arrest casey in weeks. I think Casey will be arrested right before TES shows up. Unless something else causes them to act sooner.

Just my opinionI posted a link earlier today on FLA law that said the GJ has to hand down an indictment on a capital charge. I'm wondering how that will play out. imo

[spiritwolf46]

They can take as long as they want to charge her with either I think they will charge her before the neglect trial takes place. Last article I read said they would be charging and arresting Casey with connection to Caylee disappearence in weeks.

My opinion if everything goes down the way i think it will. Ckrdpast's theory from info we got about something else will come true.

TES is supposed to go back in 3 weeks and LE will arrest casey in weeks. I think Casey will be arrested right before TES shows up. Unless something else causes them to act sooner.

Just my opinion

ITA, Rebel. I truly think that she will be arrested before too long. I also read that article, and it made me a little more at ease with what most of us have been saying about LE getting things all together and making sure that it will be solid. I think they have it, triple checked it (as I have read) and covered every avenue they can possibly cover.

I know that I will sing and dance the day that happens. (Trust me, that may not be pretty, but I will do it anyway! ;) )

[joolz]

I agree, but I did really want to know who sammy is. I'm nosey like that.

So am I, but SayWhat has a really good point. After all, no matter how nosey we are (:D) when we consider the source we should know better than to get sucked in, since we will never get an answer! JMO

[spiritwolf46]

You see, this is what I call back up ping pong.


You be the greatest. That explains what this has been about. Thank you. :seeya:

[playnice]

Im wondering if TES found something the day they called off the search? Maybe not Caylee but something on the way to where she is buried that Casey dropped. Maybe they know she is somewhere in that area but couldnt go any further because of the water?

I cant understand why that TES lady was crying so hard that day.

[Pag Boi]

Since I never got a reply when I asked about the "profession" of ZF-G's child, perhaps you can enlighten me what it is. TIA

I never got an answer either. Sorry.

Barskin was kind enough to explain that the ZG that toured Sawgrass is 37. Fantasy ZF-G is only 26 iirc


So ZG could have a child old enought have a profession, altho I don't know if she does. Or what his "profession" is. Perhaps this is just another cruel cryptic clue left for us a la Sammy?



ZG's lawyer alleges Casey told the world what her 2 young kids names were - which is not how the media found out IMO. However, if ZG was the nanny in Casey's dreams, and ZG has a male child past puberty, I would bet my Sammy Sosa card that Casey would have known him intimately. Mebbe even implicated him in the kidnap caper.

[Pruddennce]

My guess would be Amy Huizenga. Casey probably added her in order to use her payment info. The last payment date was the day Cindy called 911

you might be right....the first letter is partially exposed, looks like part of an A.

if thats the case, wonder if that will another charge, using her name on her account without her permission....jeez, if put someone else's name on the account, they are liable for the debt.

casey is one thieving psycho.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[TxLady2]

If it's him, maybe LE instructed him not to talk about the testimony evidence?

That could be true. I don't know if he is the real deal but his answers did sound plausible to me. I haven't read the thread over there in a couple days, but I thought it was interesting when he said he had taught Caylee to say, "What's up, dude" He said she was just the neatest kid, very smart. That almost made me cry.

[hamebone]

I have verizon and its $10 a month for unlimited text and pics. But it have to be verizon to verizon. With all the contacts Casey had and the texting she did alot of those people may not have had the same cell provider. So even if she had unlimited she may have been charged for texting others with a different provider.

My daughter has cellular south and she can call anyone anywhere in USA or text for 50.00 a month. I have cellular south and can call anyone anywhere for 40.00 a month I can add text for 10.00 more.

I would send smoke signal before I would pay 800.00 a month.

[beckyj]

I've been busy all weekend and just watched the second Cindy Anthony interview. Probably already discussed - but what do you all think about her not turning over credit card statements? It was as if she was saying "trust me".

[barskin&co.]

I never got an answer either. Sorry.

Barskin was kind enough to explain that the ZG that toured Sawgrass is 37. Fantasy ZF-G is only 26 iirc


So ZG could have a child old enought have a profession, altho I don't know if she does. Or what his "profession" is. Perhaps this is just another cruel cryptic clue left for us a la Sammy?



ZG's lawyer alleges Casey told the world what her 2 young kids names were - which is not how the media found out IMO. However, if ZG was the nanny in Casey's dreams, and ZG has a male child past puberty, I would bet my Sammy Sosa card that Casey would have known him intimately. Mebbe even implicated him in the kidnap caper.


Isn't it funny that the same people who criticize Zenaida Gonzalez for her law suit in one breath make veiled slanderous accusations in the next breath.
ETA: No, I'm not talking about Pag! I'm talking about the Sammy-dropper.

[spiritwolf46]

I will grab a nice hot cup of coffee tomorrow morning and will meet up with you all then.

Thanks so much for the updates and hugs to you all. Sleep well my friends, and hopefully tomorrow, we may see Caylee come home.

Prayer to all and for Caylee! Night all! :rose:

[Acorn]

you might be right....the first letter is partially exposed, looks like part of an A.

if thats the case, wonder if that will another charge, using her name on her account without her permission....jeez, if put someone else's name on the account, they are liable for the debt.

casey is one thieving psycho.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

If you're talking about page 13, that's the Account # that's blacked out. You can see the words "Account Number" on the 446 page document.

[kitty1182]

I will grab a nice hot cup of coffee tomorrow morning and will meet up with you all then.

Thanks so much for the updates and hugs to you all. Sleep well my friends, and hopefully tomorrow, we may see Caylee come home.

Prayer to all and for Caylee! Night all! :rose:



Good night..I'm on my way to bed too..:seeya:

[beckyj]

I thought it was more like she was saying, "I'll decide what you see and what you don't. And I'll decide what's important to you and what isn't."


Yep, I agree.

[need2no]

you might be right....the first letter is partially exposed, looks like part of an A.

if thats the case, wonder if that will another charge, using her name on her account without her permission....jeez, if put someone else's name on the account, they are liable for the debt.

casey is one thieving psycho.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


Yes, she is, and I suspect they were at Publix collecting donations, and held the vigil tonight to have an excuse to get the h*ll away from the psycho for a bit.

[hamebone]

Im wondering if TES found something the day they called off the search? Maybe not Caylee but something on the way to where she is buried that Casey dropped. Maybe they know she is somewhere in that area but couldnt go any further because of the water?

I cant understand why that TES lady was crying so hard that day.

Oh that reminds me didnt some poster say that something coming from TES would be a surprise about the Caylee case? I know TES is coming back to orlando in a few weeks to search again.

[playnice]

No as far as I know they didn't find anything and TES has since confirmed they didn't find anything UNLESS they are wordig things to not let on what they found. They said they did not find Caylee. That doesn't mean they didn't find SOMETHING.

Great point. They may have found something just not Caylee (her remains)

Maybe a shoe fell off of Caylee or something fell out of Caseys pocket.
Maybe a blackjack if she ever had one. :shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

No as far as I know they didn't find anything and TES has since confirmed they didn't find anything UNLESS they are wordig things to not let on what they found. They said they did not find Caylee. That doesn't mean they didn't find SOMETHING.

Great point. They may have found something just not Caylee (her remains)I got the impression there was something in the water; Tim said they didn't want to step on whatever, or mess up the scene. That intrigued me. imo

[5boxersmom]

I will grab a nice hot cup of coffee tomorrow morning and will meet up with you all then.

Thanks so much for the updates and hugs to you all. Sleep well my friends, and hopefully tomorrow, we may see Caylee come home.

Prayer to all and for Caylee! Night all! :rose:

Good night..I'm on my way to bed too..:seeya:

Good night friends. :)

[barskin&co.]

I thought it was more like she was saying, "I'll decide what you see and what you don't. And I'll decide what's important to you and what isn't."

Do you remember when Cindy was doing interviews and complaining about the investigation, saying "they don't want the receipts I have for them, they're not interested in investigating," when, in truth, she was not givig them the complete data they wanted and was lying about how many CCs of her's that Casey had used.

[Joan Weiss]

I will grab a nice hot cup of coffee tomorrow morning and will meet up with you all then.

Thanks so much for the updates and hugs to you all. Sleep well my friends, and hopefully tomorrow, we may see Caylee come home.

Prayer to all and for Caylee! Night all! :rose:Pleasant dreams. :seeya:

[Pruddennce]

Yes, remember the arrest affadavit about her thefts from Amy there was an electronic check to AT&T for $574.

the $574 is on the bill, but what is interesting is the May and June payment. they are extremely high....she didnt have any money...who was she stealing from, mom? or was mom payment these bills?

somebody was, either thru theft or a 'gift'.

if its believed she added Amy's name for the July payment, because she did use her funds to pay the $574, when did she add her name? would it just automatically show up at the moment you add a name? I am cell phone illiterate...can you just add someone without them being part of the service with you?

best regards,
Pru

[5boxersmom]

Maybe a shoe fell off of Caylee or something fell out of Caseys pocket.
Maybe a blackjack if she ever had one. :shrug:

I wondered about Caylee's blue crocs if that was what she was wearing. They would float I would think. I know the posters say she was wearing white sneakers, but then I remember hearing Blue Crocs. Or maybe the white backpack with monkeys? :shrug:

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

Good night..I'm on my way to bed too..:seeya:Good night, kitty. :seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

Good old Lenny, the same person that thought if Casey had a shower and her nails done she would lead him to Caylee..i have a brand new roll of duct tape for his mouth. imo

[need2no]

I'd give up a limb to have access to all the goings-on in that house.



:lol:

Can you even imagine what it was like after all the info that was released. I wondered if she started screaming at everybody, or slammed her bedroom door and pouted hoping they would come console her and assure her they would support her no matter what. No doubt Cindy was right there saying "sweetheart if you would just have told the truth mommie could help you more."

[barskin&co.]

the $574 is on the bill, but what is interesting is the May and June payment. they are extremely high....she didnt have any money...who was she stealing from, mom? or was mom payment these bills?

somebody was, either thru theft or a 'gift'.

if its believed she added Amy's name for the July payment, because she did use her funds to pay the $574, when did she add her name? would it just automatically show up at the moment you add a name? I am cell phone illiterate...can you just add someone without them being part of the service with you?

best regards,
Pru

Well, mom paid all her cell phone bills, normally. Cindy must have freaked at the $574 bill, or maybe Casey took her cc and paid it without asking (which was her habit, remember Lee talking to her about that). She has a second $574 bill while she was on the run, so she used other funds, I guess

[hamebone]

Isn't it funny that the same people who criticize Zenaida Gonzalez for her law suit in one breath make veiled slanderous accusations in the next breath.
ETA: No, I'm not talking about Pag! I'm talking about the Sammy-dropper.

That goes on every time they get on here.

Like how they tried to smear Caseys friends...called them cohorts with criminal back grounds...no link..of course ..you had to be in the right association that night or you were out of luck...

Beats all I ever seen, its like the kid that takes the ball home on the playground if things dont go their way.

When they post something... I just try and see where they are coming from....for all I know, I might of missed something in the case...but they just slap you down...why post to begin with...:shrug:

[beckyj]

the $574 is on the bill, but what is interesting is the May and June payment. they are extremely high....she didnt have any money...who was she stealing from, mom? or was mom payment these bills?

somebody was, either thru theft or a 'gift'.

if its believed she added Amy's name for the July payment, because she did use her funds to pay the $574, when did she add her name? would it just automatically show up at the moment you add a name? I am cell phone illiterate...can you just add someone without them being part of the service with you?

best regards,
Pru

I don't think you can just add someone that easily. My AT&T is in my name only because I initially got it without my husband present. Even though we are married, and have been for 20 plus years, his name has still not been added.

I think it is interesting that GA and CA claim they didn't know she wasn't working when all these bills exist. She was getting money from somewhere for a long time. Hard to believe. JMO.

[need2no]

Oh yeah. And then in her interview she tried to say she tried to give them things that they refused. And she said she gave stuff to Lee to give to them. It's always about somebody else, never about Cindy.


I absolutely LOVED it when Yuri challenged her about the 2 days to pick up the car statement and he wouldn't back down. Less than 24 hours does not equal TWO DAYS Cindy!!

[Pruddennce]

If you're talking about page 13, that's the Account # that's blacked out. You can see the words "Account Number" on the 446 page document.

yes, thats it. is that what the bill looks like (Im not familiar with their statements)?

so that means you can use anyone's account to pay the bill....AT&T, they dont care who pays it...lol

best regards,
Pru

[hamebone]

the $574 is on the bill, but what is interesting is the May and June payment. they are extremely high....she didnt have any money...who was she stealing from, mom? or was mom payment these bills?

somebody was, either thru theft or a 'gift'.

if its believed she added Amy's name for the July payment, because she did use her funds to pay the $574, when did she add her name? would it just automatically show up at the moment you add a name? I am cell phone illiterate...can you just add someone without them being part of the service with you?

best regards,
Pru

she paid with grannys retirement money ...maybe

[Joan Weiss]

That could be true. I don't know if he is the real deal but his answers did sound plausible to me. I haven't read the thread over there in a couple days, but I thought it was interesting when he said he had taught Caylee to say, "What's up, dude" He said she was just the neatest kid, very smart. That almost made me cry.That sounds like the roommate that was interviewed. He really liked Caylee, he was positively gushing. I was stunned that the Anthonys never expressed anything like that about Caylee. What is wrong with these people? :confused:

imo

[beckyj]

I wondered about Caylee's blue crocs if that was what she was wearing. They would float I would think. I know the posters say she was wearing white sneakers, but then I remember hearing Blue Crocs. Or maybe the white backpack with monkeys? :shrug:

jmo

Caylee:rose:


Oh, I just got sad again when I read that. How could anyone do such a thing??

[barskin&co.]

I don't think you can just add someone that easily. My AT&T is in my name only because I initially got it without my husband present. Even though we are married, and have been for 20 plus years, his name has still not been added.

I think it is interesting that GA and CA claim they didn't know she wasn't working when all these bills exist. She was getting money from somewhere for a long time. Hard to believe. JMO.

George and Cindy paid all her bills including cell phones.

[Joan Weiss]

she paid with grannys retirement money ...maybeWhich means Cindy paid, because SHE had to put the money back. imo

[beckyj]

Did anyone feel like that George knew more than he wanted LE to know?

And what about Lee?


And what about Cindy?

And, wait, wait, ummmm, Casey? What about her?

Oh, and Casey, WHERE IS CAYLEE???

I didn't feel that way about George, but I'm still on the fence about Lee. Cindy I think knows way more than she is giving up.

[Joan Weiss]

George and Cindy paid all her bills including cell phones.And auto insurance. imo

[need2no]

I'd personally like to be a fly on the wall if George and Casey are ever in the house alone, and Casey sets him off. I'd be willing to bet he's been in her face at least once, and possibly more times than that. I bet Cindy tries to arrange it so that those two don't get much quality time alone together.


:lol:

Time alone between George and Casey...not a good idea,
quality time between Casey and anybody....highly unlikely.

[Joan Weiss]

Oh, I just got sad again when I read that. How could anyone do such a thing??I know, I know. :(

[5boxersmom]

Maybe Cindy does not do this but I can get online and any transaction to my CC shows up by at least the next day. So if Cindy was checking there is no way she would have thought Casey was in Tampa if charges were showing up in Orlando. Does that make sense. I am kinda tired. :)

jmo

[Pag Boi]

Yes, 'I' know that Sammy was the dog, but DG supposedly PM'd Rayo with some super secret info on Sammy's REAL identity, and Ray mentioned on here "if you knew who Sammy really was".
I couple posters asked her who Sammy 'really' was, and Ray wont/cant tell.

OIC. Thnx! That's what Rayo was tapping out in morse code? Since GJ members are sworn to secrecy, I'm gonna give her the benfit of my doubtS and believe she is just practicing up for her potential member selection to the GJ. I'm trying to think like an Anthony :chicken:

[Joan Weiss]

FOLKS I think tomorrow with NG anyway the big headline is going to be the many searches for ESCORT services.....she did not even get to those yet.......and then the missing kid search right there amongst the others....

Wonder what they are thinking about those searches in the computer.....especially Cindy.....Is Casey blaming George?.....LOL

Hey you all there is just so many things to where it is just 2 + 2 = 4.

Circumstantial Evidence: If you wake up in the morning and there is snow on the ground then you can conclude it snowed.

I think this case is moving right along........they even said they are triple testing everything.......Thank you. I think it's called Occam's razor. imo

[5boxersmom]

Oh, I just got sad again when I read that. How could anyone do such a thing??

I know. Sweet little Caylee

[beckyj]

When Yuri got up close and personal with her, I think he did a great job stopping her in her tracks just about every time she trotted out another one of her excuses or accusations. He didn't let her get away with much. I got the feeling the other detective was biting his tongue alot. He said something that led me to believe he felt Cindy had acted disrespectful toward them in front of the media.

She's such a damn fool. Who alienates the detectives who are wading through your daughter's lies in an attempt to find your grandbaby? Who does that?

Isn't that the truth. I'd be bowing at their feet and begging for every ounce of help I could get.

[hanlil]

There's no statute of limitations on Murder. They can take their sweet time

But Casey does have a trial date set in November for the child neglect charges does she not? I believe there was some debate about whether that trial might raise some legal issues if she was susequently charged with murder. My guess is that they'll charge her with murder before the child neglect case goes to trial.

[beckyj]

Becky,

Do you think any of the family members knows what happened?

This just blows me way that no one has came forward in this 'missing child' case.

JMO
I don't really know if they know what happened, but the writing is on the wall. I think GA and Lee have definitely summed it up, but maybe Cindy is still in denial. I especially think George thinks she is dead because of what he said in his interview about being troubled by the smell.

I would hope if any of them knew for sure they would have the good sense to get her to fess up.

[beckyj]

Abraham Lincoln's favorite description of a circumstantial evidence case:

Did you see the Defendant bite the man's ear off?

No. But, I saw him spit it out.

Never heard that. I'll have to remember.

[Joan Weiss]

But Casey does have a trial date set in November for the child neglect charges does she not? I believe there was some debate about whether that trial might raise some legal issues if she was susequently charged with murder. My guess is that they'll charge her with murder before the child neglect case goes to trial.yes. If it goes to trial on the current charges, they may not use the same neglect evidence in a murder trial later. That would constitute double jeopardy. I think the current scheduled trial will be delayed, a new date set (maybe 2 months more), and then a GJ convened to deal with the murder evidence. jmo

[need2no]

When Yuri got up close and personal with her, I think he did a great job stopping her in her tracks just about every time she trotted out another one of her excuses or accusations. He didn't let her get away with much. I got the feeling the other detective was biting his tongue alot. He said something that led me to believe he felt Cindy had acted disrespectful toward them in front of the media.

She's such a damn fool. Who alienates the detectives who are wading through your daughter's lies in an attempt to find your grandbaby? Who does that?


Who indeed....and who says to a detective..."I didn't mean to intimidate you." :eek: Is she a smart mouth or just plain stupid, or both? Just when you think you've heard it and seen it all from her, she pops out with something else outrageous.

[5boxersmom]

The tiny blue Crocs on her little feet in one of those photos are burned into my memory for eternity.

I know. All the kids in my life wear them in the summer. Just a beautiful pix of a beautiful little girl. Who would have ever dreamed it would end up this way? So sad. :rose:

[beckyj]

Who indeed....and who says to a detective..."I didn't mean to intimidate you." :eek: Is she a smart mouth or just plain stupid, or both? Just when you think you've heard it and seen it all from her, she pops out with something else outrageous.

I couldn't believe that either! You know the most innocent of people would actually be intimidated by being questioned, and here she thinks she's "the intimidator". :shrug::shrug:

[barskin&co.]

When Yuri got up close and personal with her, I think he did a great job stopping her in her tracks just about every time she trotted out another one of her excuses or accusations. He didn't let her get away with much. I got the feeling the other detective was biting his tongue alot. He said something that led me to believe he felt Cindy had acted disrespectful toward them in front of the media.

She's such a damn fool. Who alienates the detectives who are wading through your daughter's lies in an attempt to find your grandbaby? Who does that?

Maybe someone who knows her granddaughter is dead?

[Joan Weiss]

Abraham Lincoln's favorite description of a circumstantial evidence case:

Did you see the Defendant bite the man's ear off?

No. But, I saw him spit it out.What a smart man. TY!

[Joan Weiss]

I couldn't believe that either! You know the most innocent of people would actually be intimidated by being questioned, and here she thinks she's "the intimidator". :shrug::shrug:The ultimate narcissist. imo

[hanlil]

yes. If it goes to trial on the current charges, they may not use the same neglect evidence in a murder trial later. That would constitute double jeopardy. I think the current scheduled trial will be delayed, a new date set (maybe 2 months more), and then a GJ convened to deal with the murder evidence. jmo

I would think Baez would fight any delays. Maybe the judge wouldn't go along with a delay if there is no basis for it? Baez is going to want to go to trial asap before a body is discovered imo.

[Joan Weiss]

Also about George saying that the dead body in the trunk was not his grandaughter.

I just found that too telling.

JMOThat is absolutely horrible. :eek:

[beckyj]

I'd love to stay around and catch up. I finally got my 2 year old to go to bed, and now I'm so tired I must do so as well.

Talk to everyone tomorrow. Maybe we'll get good news then!

[Pruddennce]

When Yuri got up close and personal with her, I think he did a great job stopping her in her tracks just about every time she trotted out another one of her excuses or accusations. He didn't let her get away with much. I got the feeling the other detective was biting his tongue alot. He said something that led me to believe he felt Cindy had acted disrespectful toward them in front of the media.

She's such a damn fool. Who alienates the detectives who are wading through your daughter's lies in an attempt to find your grandbaby? Who does that?

Ill guess who: Cindy? :cool:

the most intriguing part of that interview is when cindy attempted to blame THEM for not doing their job, chastising them for NOT INFORMING her of their every investigative movement. she says, so arrogantly, TWO AND A HALF WEEKS! Yuri, says, um cindy, ITS SIX AND A HALF WEEKS.

Cindy is now utilizing some new math equation that discounts the real # of days Caylee has been missing....Cindy's starting point is Yuri and company getting the case....

Casey? minus those days out.....accountability starts with LE.....

my draw dropped when she came up with the time LE had the case and she starts her own personal clock ticking....

forgetting all about why she is sitting in a police station and why she called 911 screaming SOMETHING IS WRONG....

adversarial? what word tops that, because Yuri was being kind at that moment in time when he said that...he didnt want to lose the interview......

his words were lost on her......she's non-communicative when it comes to 'listening'.....these people dont exist, he says, your daughter has never left the area, he says...

and she just ignores it and attempts to trash LE toward the end of the interview.

yes, jaw dropping.

best regards,
Pru

[hamebone]

The tiny blue Crocs on her little feet in one of those photos are burned into my memory for eternity.


Its sad isnt it.

I hate this has happened. Dont you wish sometimes that time could be turned back. I wish Casey had been called out on some of her lies and stealing.

I sure wish they had got her some help. Her life was out of control and not just for 30 days. She was out of control I should say. If she just would of pressed charges against her when she stole Gparents money maybe Caylee might be in her bed tonight with her blue crocks beside her night stand. Her baby doll momma close to her.

[Joan Weiss]

I would think Baez would fight any delays. Maybe the judge wouldn't go along with a delay if there is no basis for it? Baez is going to want to go to trial asap before a body is discovered imo.Ummm...just when do you think a body will be discovered? I think they're planning to prosecute with or without one. The way Yuri was working Cindy, I doubt they are expecting to find poor little Caylee.

There will be a basis for a delay, there is in many cases. They can't get the witnesses all there in time, tests are still pending, etc. and etc.

I don't think Baez is qualified to do a trial. I think another atty will handle it. Maybe Walsh. imo

[Joan Weiss]

I'd love to stay around and catch up. I finally got my 2 year old to go to bed, and now I'm so tired I must do so as well.

Talk to everyone tomorrow. Maybe we'll get good news then!Sleep well, becky. :seeya:

[hamebone]

Ill guess who: Cindy? :cool:

the most intriguing part of that interview is when cindy attempted to blame THEM for not doing their job, chastising them for NOT INFORMING her of their every investigative movement. she says, so arrogantly, TWO AND A HALF WEEKS! Yuri, says, um cindy, ITS SIX AND A HALF WEEKS.

Cindy is now utilizing some new math equation that discounts the real # of days Caylee has been missing....Cindy's starting point is Yuri and company getting the case....

Casey? minus those days out.....accountability starts with LE.....

my draw dropped when she came up with the time LE had the case and she starts her own personal clock ticking....

forgetting all about why she is sitting in a police station and why she called 911 screaming SOMETHING IS WRONG....

adversarial? what word tops that, because Yuri was being kind at that moment in time when he said that...he didnt want to lose the interview......

his words were lost on her......she's non-communicative when it comes to 'listening'.....these people dont exist, he says, your daughter has never left the area, he says...

and she just ignores it and attempts to trash LE toward the end of the interview.

yes, jaw dropping.

best regards,
Pru

Some kind of personality disorder going on...IMO

[Joan Weiss]

Its sad isnt it.

I hate this has happened. Dont you wish sometimes that time could be turned back. I wish Casey had been called out on some of her lies and stealing.

I sure wish they had got her some help. Her life was out of control and not just for 30 days. She was out of control I should say. If she just would of pressed charges against her when she stole Gparents money maybe Caylee might be in her bed tonight with her blue crocks beside her night stand. Her baby doll momma close to her.Oh, that did it. I'm going to bed. :( 'nite.

Prayers for Caylee :rose:

[panokatana]

Wow...just catching up reading...(had to take a break...didn't want to be in the headlines as one of those people who had to be cut away from their furniture because they'd been sitting too long..:eek:

Those phone bills are...just outrageous. I wonder if those huge balances are balance carryovers...with late fees, etc.

I remember reading one of Casey's messages...something to the effect..."Can you do me a huge favor...get beer...my mom stopped buying it because it was too expensive."

That makes me think the Anthony's didn't have much extra spending money...(Gone are the days when BEER was their only expense.) I don't know...if my DD brought me one bill that large...I'd pay the 200 cut off fee in a heartbeat. If the phone was in Casey's name...I don't see why they'd continue to pay... I am apt to think she was paying with stolen funds. (Duh! Some super sleuth I am, eh?)
:lol:

I do know someone who works the phone system like this...They go with Verizon, for instance, run it up..don't pay...switch carriers...

Anxious to find out what the news is tomorrow, that was hinted at by Mr. Grund.

[AlohaRainbow]

I want to thank those of you who were so kind to complement me on my "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" analogy to this case. Might I just point out however to people who refer to it as a movie, and I think Edward Albee would back my up on this, it was a play :biggrin: that was made into a movie.
ooops! :o
that would be me (cause i saw the movie and not the play)
thanks for providing the correct info (and mucho thanks for providing the analogy)
:seeya:

[hanlil]

Ummm...just when do you think a body will be discovered? I think they're planning to prosecute with or without one. The way Yuri was working Cindy, I doubt they are expecting to find poor little Caylee.

There will be a basis for a delay, there is in many cases. They can't get the witnesses all there in time, tests are still pending, etc. and etc.

I don't think Baez is qualified to do a trial. I think another atty will handle it. Maybe Walsh. imo

Well, you never know. Many didn't expect Laci Peterson to be found either. Although I agree they will charge Casey with or without a body which is why I thought they'd do it before being the child neglect case.

[5boxersmom]

So very tragically true.

For little Caylee in her tiny blue Crocs :rose:


I wonder if they were in her room? :(

[Cury-us Coyote]

Vigil for Caylee Anthony held Sunday night

Standing shoulder-to-shoulder, about 30 people bowed their heads in prayer Sunday night outside the home of missing three-year-old Caylee Anthony.
...
"We know you are out there somewhere. Caylee, wherever you are, we promise you will be back in our arms real soon," Cindy Anthony said.

A handful of protesters held signs across the street. Sheriff's deputies stood nearby and occasionally chastised the protesters for using cuss words or targeting individuals with their taunts.

"She's dead, Cindy, give her justice," one yelled.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anythong-vigil-092808,0,5731517.story

[Pag Boi]

Who indeed....and who says to a detective..."I didn't mean to intimidate you." :eek: Is she a smart mouth or just plain stupid, or both? Just when you think you've heard it and seen it all from her, she pops out with something else outrageous.

Silly girl, she was just trying to one up Casey. All in good fun of course. I mean WHO would take LE to Universal Studios, lie - and lie badly - and parade them around like she worked there? Cindy had to try to do something to top that IMO

Seriously, I just cannot fathom anyone taking LE along for a ride like that. Casey didn't even name a real employee when US security pretended to screen her. I bet Casey was caught off guard security gave her clearance to access the building. Even after being corrected about the name of her boss. Duh. I guess the former roller coaster photo processor thought her hot bod did the trick and got her in :barf:

Wouldn't you be wondering how you pulled off entrance if you didn't really work there? Oops. You're normal. WWCD? I think she thought she'd be able physically work her way out of the situation. ;)

[hanlil]

Wow...just catching up reading...(had to take a break...didn't want to be in the headlines as one of those people who had to be cut away from their furniture because they'd been sitting too long..:eek:

Those phone bills are...just outrageous. I wonder if those huge balances are balance carryovers...with late fees, etc.

I remember reading one of Casey's messages...something to the effect..."Can you do me a huge favor...get beer...my mom stopped buying it because it was too expensive."

That makes me think the Anthony's didn't have much extra spending money...(Gone are the days when BEER was their only expense.) I don't know...if my DD brought me one bill that large...I'd pay the 200 cut off fee in a heartbeat. If the phone was in Casey's name...I don't see why they'd continue to pay... I am apt to think she was paying with stolen funds. (Duh! Some super sleuth I am, eh?)
:lol:

I do know someone who works the phone system like this...They go with Verizon, for instance, run it up..don't pay...switch carriers...

Anxious to find out what the news is tomorrow, that was hinted at by Mr. Grund.

I didn't hear about any news being hinted at? What's that all about?

[5boxersmom]

Vigil for Caylee Anthony held Sunday night

Standing shoulder-to-shoulder, about 30 people bowed their heads in prayer Sunday night outside the home of missing three-year-old Caylee Anthony.
...
"We know you are out there somewhere. Caylee, wherever you are, we promise you will be back in our arms real soon," Cindy Anthony said.



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anythong-vigil-092808,0,5731517.story

Snip

That is the first time I ever heard The Anthony's say something like that. Posters on the board have been wondering why. Me thinks someone reads here. jmo

[5boxersmom]

I can't imagine that room, full of all her little things. :(

Okay ... we need to stop this.

I know I know.

:(
,
,
,
,
,

:rose:

[5boxersmom]

YES I feel GA knows MORE than what he said to anyone thus far JMO

I do too. jmo

[Pruddennce]

Some kind of personality disorder going on...IMO

IMO, I think much more.

It was a fascinating interview considering it was supposed to be a fact-finding mission on both sides.

well, she proved me wrong.

one side was not interested in the facts.

correction: two sides werent interested in listening to LE and their results of their investigation so far: LE: YOU LIED CASEY. HOWS THAT HELPING US FIND YOUR DAUGHTER. 'yeah Im a liar, but see see I have this reason why I lied....see see...(paraphrasing)

LE was up against the same behaviour with casey....they had to draw her back and ask her point blank, tell her point blank, and what happens, she just la la la responds in a bizarre manner.

OMG...it really was deja vu for me.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[hamebone]

I didn't hear about any news being hinted at? What's that all about?

Jesse's daddy said something on his myspace about monday night some truth coming out...I guess maybe he will be on NG? and talk about something he knows...but I dont know if this is true or not.

[hamebone]

IMO, I think much more.

It was a fascinating interview considering it was supposed to be a fact-finding mission on both sides.

well, she proved me wrong.

one side was not interested in the facts.

correction: two sides werent interested in listening to LE and their results of their investigation so far: LE: YOU LIED CASEY. HOWS THAT HELPING US FIND YOUR DAUGHTER. 'yeah Im a liar, but see see I have this reason why I lied....see see...(paraphrasing)

LE was up against the same behaviour with casey....they had to draw her back and ask her point blank, tell her point blank, and what happens, she just la la la responds in a bizarre manner.

OMG...it really was deja vu for me.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

You know what and this is for real....I have deja vu all the time lately when I'm on this board. Not cindy casey deja vu...but real in my mind deja vu.

[need2no]

Silly girl, she was just trying to one up Casey. All in good fun of course. I mean WHO would take LE to Universal Studios, lie - and lie badly - and parade them around like she worked there? Cindy had to try to do something to top that IMO

Seriously, I just cannot fathom anyone taking LE along for a ride like that. Casey didn't even name a real employee when US security pretended to screen her. I bet Casey was caught off guard security gave her clearance to access the building. Even after being corrected about the name of her boss. Duh. I guess the former roller coaster photo processor thought her hot bod did the trick and got her in :barf:

Wouldn't you be wondering how you pulled off entrance if you didn't really work there? Oops. You're normal. WWCD? I think she thought she'd be able physically work her way out of the situation. ;)

I would love to know what the heck was going through her head when she drug them to Universal claiming she was employed there....surely she didn't expect to be able to pull it off. Was she going for the insanity defense? Nah, I guess not considering her statement about being arrested on a whim, heck she apparently didn't expect to be arrested. This and so many other crazy stunts she has pulled still have me shakin my head, and I always will.

I followed Sante Kime, and Anna Nicole Smith cases....they were both shocking and wild rides with lots of twists, turns, and lies....but this case with Casey and family just blows my mind!

[Cury-us Coyote]

Fox 35 Videos

Another week, another vigil at the Anthony home
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7533360&version=1&locale=EN-US

[Amy]

Its sad isnt it.

I hate this has happened. Dont you wish sometimes that time could be turned back. I wish Casey had been called out on some of her lies and stealing.

I sure wish they had got her some help. Her life was out of control and not just for 30 days. She was out of control I should say. If she just would of pressed charges against her when she stole Gparents money maybe Caylee might be in her bed tonight with her blue crocks beside her night stand. Her baby doll momma close to her.

I think it was in Lee's interview, when he was relating about talking to Casey, trying to get to the heart of the matter, when Casey said pretty much the same thing. Saying that the A's should have stopped her in her tracks much earlier with the lying and stealing. She was kind of (the way I read it) saying that, whatever happened to Caylee was squarely the fault of the A's who did not stop her lying, thieving ways years ago. barf

Anything to not take responsibility of one's own actions. If her parents didn't call her on her actions, she should have, by gollies, taken it upon HERSELF to quit--or, if she needed help, there are any number of resourses for mental health. Heck, I'm betting Cindy would have even helped her (finacially) to get such help.

[5boxersmom]

Oh please!!! You're not the victims! :cuss:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anythong-vigil-092808,0,5731517.story

They sang, prayed and asked God to help the Anthony family endure hostility from others and the sadness of not knowing Caylee's whereabouts.

They think they are. :rolleyes: jmo

[Cury-us Coyote]

Fox 35 Video

More tapes released in the search for Caylee Anthony
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7533239&version=1&locale=EN-US

[hanlil]

Jesse's daddy said something on his myspace about monday night some truth coming out...I guess maybe he will be on NG? and talk about something he knows...but I dont know if this is true or not.

Ok thanks. I usually watch NG so I'll be sure to check it out.

[5boxersmom]

Hey Mom :)

What is your take on George?

Just asking.

TIA

I think he knows more then he said in the interview. Maybe he saw something in the trunk on the 24th. This is my opinion only.

[Ckrdpast]

No as far as I know they didn't find anything and TES has since confirmed they didn't find anything UNLESS they are wordig things to not let on what they found. They said they did not find Caylee. That doesn't mean they didn't find SOMETHING.

Great point. They may have found something just not Caylee (her remains)

ok im off to bed---ask about the java thing tomorrow im walking people through MSN right now but i m so tired

[Ionmhainn]

Fox 35 Videos

Another week, another vigil at the Anthony home
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7533360&version=1&locale=EN-US

Thanks for posting that. The strain is certainly showing. So glad it was relatively peaceful.

[need2no]

Fox 35 Videos

Another week, another vigil at the Anthony home
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7533360&version=1&locale=EN-US


Thank you for the links Cury!!

Big difference between not showing up to protest out of respect for the Anthony's, and fear of being arrested.

George loves the protesters...he just loves his family more-WTH?

They said Lee was there...must have worked out their differences with him since last week. Hmmm...didn't show him on camera.

Have we ever heard who is paying for the security?

[hamebone]

I think it was in Lee's interview, when he was relating about talking to Casey, trying to get to the heart of the matter, when Casey said pretty much the same thing. Saying that the A's should have stopped her in her tracks much earlier with the lying and stealing. She was kind of (the way I read it) saying that, whatever happened to Caylee was squarely the fault of the A's who did not stop her lying, thieving ways years ago. barf

Anything to not take responsibility of one's own actions. If her parents didn't call her on her actions, she should have, by gollies, taken it upon HERSELF to quit--or, if she needed help, there are any number of resourses for mental health. Heck, I'm betting Cindy would have even helped her (finacially) to get such help.

I dont know what to say really. I dont have any life experiences to draw from. This family is odd to me.

[panokatana]

I didn't hear about any news being hinted at? What's that all about?

Not sure. I thought I read that about five pages back...I didn't have time to read all of today's postings but someone said...something about Monday night..he was to be on NG... Sounded like it would be informative. Perhaps I just misread, or read something into a post without having read previous ones. Apologies if I did.

JMO

[5boxersmom]

That is what I believe, also.

After hearing/reading about George seeing Casey driving Cindy's truck??? And Cindy doesn't remember it?

Am I wrong here or is that what I read?

That's what George told LE. :shrug:

I can't keep up with it all. :)

jmo

[AlohaRainbow]

just catching up reading some docs.....

anyone take a look at the forensics on her laptop:

bill payer for AT&T:

and the amount of her bills each month...outrageous...who was paying these bills? 2007 the amounts are unbelievable. $800 and some dollars in 12/07 !!

any clue whose name is blacked out next to her name?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

best regards,
Pru
from your link, pru, i noticed that a document titled "diary of days" was found on the compaq laptop... but the metafile anaylsis showed the author as CMANTHON of GENTIVA corporation, july 2nd at 10:42:08am.
isn't the "diary of days" what casey posted on july 7 on her myspace page, the one that ends with:
What is given can be taken away.
Everyone Lies. Everyone Dies....

so, is cindy the author of the "diary of days"... or did casey author it under cindy's account/password/file? (i realize they would both be "cmanthon[y]", but the "of GENTIVA" is what stuck out)
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

[Moonie]

Not sure. I thought I read that about five pages back...I didn't have time to read all of today's postings but someone said...something about Monday night..he was to be on NG... Sounded like it would be informative. Perhaps I just misread, or read something into a post without having read previous ones. Apologies if I did.

JMO

Richard Grund posted the following on his blog yesterday:

Stay tuned. On Monday night the spotlight of Truth will shine and

you can decide for yourself what you want to believe or not. Then it's

up to you what you want to do with that Truth. All I can do is expose

the unfruitful works of darkness and bring them out into the Light.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148

I saw mention in this thread that he is scheduled to be on NG tomorrow night.

[need2no]

Jesse`s dad has said Mon eve we will learn some truth about all this........guessing probably on NG......

I just bet he was PIZZED off when he saw how Cindy was trying to throw his son under the bus and make him into a possible suspect and a liar......SUCH A CRUEL THING TO DO!!!

My dad would go after them BIG TIME......that I know....

Maybe he has been holding back on some Anthony family dirt but he is pizzed now and plans to spill the beans.

[barskin&co.]

Richard Grund posted the following on his blog yesterday:

Stay tuned. On Monday night the spotlight of Truth will shine and

you can decide for yourself what you want to believe or not. Then it's

up to you what you want to do with that Truth. All I can do is expose

the unfruitful works of darkness and bring them out into the Light.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148

I saw mention in this thread that he is scheduled to be on NG tomorrow night.

Stay tuned, indeed!

[hamebone]

Richard Grund posted the following on his blog yesterday:

Stay tuned. On Monday night the spotlight of Truth will shine and

you can decide for yourself what you want to believe or not. Then it's

up to you what you want to do with that Truth. All I can do is expose

the unfruitful works of darkness and bring them out into the Light.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=436602148

I saw mention in this thread that he is scheduled to be on NG tomorrow night.


Thanks for posting this. Everytime I tried to get on his myspace it would freeze my computer up.

[Moonie]

Thanks for posting this. Everytime I tried to get on his myspace it would freeze my computer up.

You're welcome! :)

[hamebone]

I'm out of here for tonight.

I sure enjoy posting with all of you and always look forward to reading all of your post.

I'll read you all in the morning.

BB

2W

Good night...I'm out of here to.....


Good night Pru and Bar my board Idols...:D


good night sweet sweet Caylee...and all the children missing tonight...I wish, I could do more for you all...:rose:

[barskin&co.]

Good night...I'm out of here to.....


Good night Pru and Bar my board Idols...:D


good night sweet sweet Caylee...and all the children missing tonight...I wish, I could do more for you all...:rose:

I am not worthy! :seeya:

[barskin&co.]

from your link, pru, i noticed that a document titled "diary of days" was found on the compaq laptop... but the metafile anaylsis showed the author as CMANTHON of GENTIVA corporation, july 2nd at 10:42:08am.
isn't the "diary of days" what casey posted on july 7 on her myspace page, the one that ends with:
What is given can be taken away.
Everyone Lies. Everyone Dies....

so, is cindy the author of the "diary of days"... or did casey author it under cindy's account/password/file? (i realize they would both be "cmanthon[y]", but the "of GENTIVA" is what stuck out)
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

It is from Casey's page
see document # 27, pdf page #28
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

[Pag Boi]

from your link, pru, i noticed that a document titled "diary of days" was found on the compaq laptop... but the metafile anaylsis showed the author as CMANTHON of GENTIVA corporation, july 2nd at 10:42:08am.
isn't the "diary of days" what casey posted on july 7 on her myspace page, the one that ends with:
What is given can be taken away.
Everyone Lies. Everyone Dies....

so, is cindy the author of the "diary of days"... or did casey author it under cindy's account/password/file? (i realize they would both be "cmanthon[y]", but the "of GENTIVA" is what stuck out)
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

I think the laptop might have belonged to C&G too. The pix of Caylee & GGP at nursing home were on the laptop. IIRC, Casey wasn't there with them. Cindy could have been issued it thru work or allowed to purchase it thru the acompany . Just guessing why her co name would be on there. But that is the laptop she used to remotely access the HP IIRC. Casey prolly absconded with the laptop when she borrowed the gas cans, credit cards and checks.

CMAnthony could = Casey Marie

[5boxersmom]

Is Gentiva where Cindy worked?

[Reasonable]

just catching up reading some docs.....

anyone take a look at the forensics on her laptop:

bill payer for AT&T:

and the amount of her bills each month...outrageous...who was paying these bills? 2007 the amounts are unbelievable. $800 and some dollars in 12/07 !!

any clue whose name is blacked out next to her name?

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf

best regards,
Pru

You think that's something. Get this. The person who stole my husbands ID got a phone from AT&T and in 7 weeks ran up a total of $8,311.00.

We can't even imagine how one does that and we're not allowed to know any details other than we were cleared of the charge :confused:

[need2no]

What kind of cruel creature would spend their time trying to implicate a good upstanding young man......have his life uprooted......get LE on him....in a recorded interview....All the while the LE NEEDS YOUR HELP TO FIND A LITTLE HELPLESS CHID!! I would NEVER!!

THATS JUST SICK......AND IN MY MIND A STALL TACTIC!!


WHY STALL!!!


Why indeed?

Cindy just wants to point the finger at any and everybody, except Casey!

I just hope RG doesn't go over the top with whatever he plans to 'put on the table' tomorrow. At this point people are respecting him for standing up for his son, sharing his family's history with Casey, his love for Caylee, and speaking of the entire situation without saying anything too demeaning. IMO he needs to continue to take the high road and not stoop to Cindy's level.

If all he has to add is dirty Anthony family laundry it may come back to bite him, and what good does it do anyway. I think majority of the public believe Jesse is innocent of anything bad related to Caylee. Besides, Jesse is keeping quiet these days...he may prefer his father do the same rather than muddy the water.

[need2no]

Is Gentiva where Cindy worked?

Yes, it is.

[5boxersmom]

Yes, it is.

Thanks. I couldn't remember the name and to lazy to look. :)

[AlohaRainbow]

I think the laptop might have belonged to C&G too. The pix of Caylee & GGP at nursing home were on the laptop. IIRC, Casey wasn't there with them. Cindy could have been issued it thru work or allowed to purchase it thru the acompany . Just guessing why her co name would be on there. But that is the laptop she used to remotely access the HP IIRC. Casey prolly absconded with the laptop when she borrowed the gas cans, credit cards and checks.

CMAnthony could = Casey Marie

Is Gentiva where Cindy worked?
yes, gentiva is where cindy worked.
Pag Boi may be right that it was a computer issued to cindy for/from work

[barskin&co.]

yes, gentiva is where cindy worked.
Pag Boi may be right that it was a computer issued to cindy for/from work

Aloha, I hope you got my pm...

[Pruddennce]

from your link, pru, i noticed that a document titled "diary of days" was found on the compaq laptop... but the metafile anaylsis showed the author as CMANTHON of GENTIVA corporation, july 2nd at 10:42:08am.
isn't the "diary of days" what casey posted on july 7 on her myspace page, the one that ends with:
What is given can be taken away.
Everyone Lies. Everyone Dies....

so, is cindy the author of the "diary of days"... or did casey author it under cindy's account/password/file? (i realize they would both be "cmanthon[y]", but the "of GENTIVA" is what stuck out)
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/21%20Computer%20Forensics%20Report.pdf


yes I noticed that too. but it clearly states it was the laptop for the diary of days and cindy's blog thing was on the home computer.

but that stuck out for me too....the name of Gentiva Corp. (im wondering if this laptop is a work laptop and its registered to Gentiva....I dunno just a guess)

what concerns me is this: As of July 29th (same link to the forensic doc).....LE got a search warrant for Casey's phone to listen and archive. they executed the search warrant: and what do they find: they are unable to pull anything from the phone itself, BECAUSE SERVICE WAS DISCONTINUED.

that bothers me.

best regards,
Pru

ETA: SO MUCH FOR WAITING FOR A CALL FROM THE KIDNAPPER.

[Pruddennce]

You think that's something. Get this. The person who stole my husbands ID got a phone from AT&T and in 7 weeks ran up a total of $8,311.00.

We can't even imagine how one does that and we're not allowed to know any details other than we were cleared of the charge :confused:
OMG!

best regards,
Pru

[Pruddennce]

I think the laptop might have belonged to C&G too. The pix of Caylee & GGP at nursing home were on the laptop. IIRC, Casey wasn't there with them. Cindy could have been issued it thru work or allowed to purchase it thru the acompany . Just guessing why her co name would be on there. But that is the laptop she used to remotely access the HP IIRC. Casey prolly absconded with the laptop when she borrowed the gas cans, credit cards and checks.

CMAnthony could = Casey Marie

I think you are correct...I had the same guess down below and missed your's.....that it was a company laptop.

best regards,
Pru

[Pag Boi]

Rereading Cindy's MS post "My Caylee is missing" _____ Cindy writes, "a daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, mother says w/out hesitation it will be okay. And it was."

Uh NOT according to Uncle Rick, Casey didn't tell Cinders that she was pregnant until July or @ 8 months. Seems Casey didn't offer up the "female troubles" excuse to Cindy that she was giving all her pals.

I do wonder now if Casey was partying during her pregnancy. Since she told everyone it was just female probs causing her to look pregnant, she didn't need to worry abt what peeps would say for drinking & partying while with child. Prolly wore herself out keeping up the charade. When she needed bedrest, she finally fessed up. She thinks she is so slick, I can imagine her deluding herself that she'd be able to pull it off. She is just so vile I can't see straight.

[5boxersmom]

Rereading Cindy's MS post "My Caylee is missing" _____ Cindy writes, "a daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, mother says w/out hesitation it will be okay. And it was."

Uh NOT according to Uncle Rick, Casey didn't tell Cinders that she was pregnant until July or @ 8 months. Seems Casey didn't offer up the "female troubles" excuse to Cindy that she was giving all her pals.

I do wonder now if Casey was partying during her pregnancy. Since she told everyone it was just female probs causing her to look pregnant, she didn't need to worry abt what peeps would say for drinking & partying while with child. Prolly wore herself out keeping up the charade. When she needed bedrest, she finally fessed up. She thinks she is so slick, I can imagine her deluding herself that she'd be able to pull it off. She is just so vile I can't see straight.

So she needed bedrest? I didn't know that. It is hard telling what she was thinking. I don't think she thinks to much into the future. jmo

[GrannyB]

So she needed bedrest? I didn't know that. It is hard telling what she was thinking. I don't think she thinks to much into the future. jmo

As much as they all lie, I'm not sure they didn't know she was pregnant before they claim to have known. And I really can't see Cindy being ok with it.

[5boxersmom]

As much as they all lie, I'm not sure they didn't know she was pregnant before they claim to have known. And I really can't see Cindy being ok with it.


Who knows with this bunch. I did go to school with a girl who did not tell her parents until she was in labor. :shrug:

[GrannyB]

Who knows with this bunch. I did go to school with a girl who did not tell her parents until she was in labor. :shrug:

Oh I know it happens, it just this family is sooooooo different from most.

[5boxersmom]

Oh I know it happens, it just this family is sooooooo different from most.

Oh ITA. Who knows what went on in that house. So sad for Caylee.
:rose: jmo

[5boxersmom]

I agree - it was nice to see the focus back on Caylee, and that's what they were all there for (except for momster mom). Thursday will be an interesting day with Casey being indicted on 13 counts of fraud. I'm no lawyer - but couldn't Baez plea with the DA before the indictment, or do negotiations come after?

He's not gonna let her go to a jury trial on these 13 counts is he? I would think he would try his hardest to plea down.

Thoughts?


Why doesn't Casey hold her head high and go to the vigils? She is innocent after all according to Baez.

Cindy does seem to be really thin. Do you think Casey sees this or cares?

Yes, I think he will try to plead down but I don't think it will happen. I hope.

jmo

[GrannyB]

QUOTE=5boxersmom;12202886]Oh ITA. Who knows what went on in that house. So sad for Caylee.
:rose: jmo[/QUOTE]

The only victim in the whole mess is Caylee. I still want all 3 Anthony's in jail. After Lee's laughing I'm starting to think he belongs behind bars to. I don't see how anything will ever be stranger than this case.:shrug:

[5boxersmom]

The only victim in the whole mess is Caylee. I still want all 3 Anthony's in jail. After Lee's laughing I'm starting to think he belongs behind bars to. I don't see how anything will ever be stranger than this case.:shrug:

I think they all are involved in the cover up. I do go back and forth on the before. I do think George knows more then he said in his interview.

jmo

[GrannyB]

Why doesn't Casey hold her head high and go to the vigils? She is innocent after all according to Baez.

Cindy does seem to be really thin. Do you think Casey sees this or cares?

Yes, I think he will try to plead down but I don't think it will happen. I hope.

jmo

I don't imagine Cindy is getting much sleep and we knows she's just drinking water.

[need2no]

I agree - it was nice to see the focus back on Caylee, and that's what they were all there for (except for momster mom). Thursday will be an interesting day with Casey being indicted on 13 counts of fraud. I'm no lawyer - but couldn't Baez plea with the DA before the indictment, or do negotiations come after?

He's not gonna let her go to a jury trial on these 13 counts is he? I would think he would try his hardest to plea down.

Thoughts?

Isn't Thursday just an arraignment hearing to say guilty, not guilty or no contest to the fraud charges, and set a court date?

[GrannyB]

I think they all are involved in the cover up. I do go back and forth on the before. I do think George knows more then he said in his interview.

jmo

I think George is covering for either Cindy or Casey from day one. I also believe it was an accident. I lean towards Cindy just because of the way she is. I admit it could be Casey but if an accident I just see her getting Cindy to fix another of her screw ups.

[GrannyB]

Hi Pag,

What I see is a total disassociation with her pregnancy and her child. If she never truly acknowledged the pregnancy, how can you truly bond with the child. She pretended Caylee wasn't there for so long, then had to deal with the aftermath of her "mistake".

If a mother doesn't bond with a child, there can be extreme consequences - including not caring, disassociation, child abuse, and even murder.

Caylee's mom was Cindy, and Caysey punished Cindy by getting rid of Caylee - with no emotion whatsoever.

This, of course, is my opinion.

Peace,

Cindy and George both say Caylee had her own room but slept with Casey every night. I don't buy the not bonding story.

[5boxersmom]

I don't imagine Cindy is getting much sleep and we knows she's just drinking water.

Oh yes we know so much about Cindy but not much about Caylee. What was Caylee's favorite food?

jmo

[need2no]

Oh I KNOW!!.......And I don't buy that garbage of who got to hold Caylee first.....Oh so what that is Casey's freaking excuse for EVERTHING!!!.....


Isn't Cindy the one pushing that rubbish?

It honestly wouldn't bother me one bit if my mom got to hold my babies before I did....but then I love my mom.

[GrannyB]

You are probably right nothing seems to get in the way of Casey and her partying.........maybe the Grunds have info on that.......wouldn`t that be something.......still cannot believe Casey waited then told Jesse for sure Caylee was his.....bet she stalled the DNA test.....in fact IIRC it was stated by one of them she did not want the test.......wonder if he had to pay CS in the mean time........most families would of told her to get lost after all that........LOOK WHAT THEY GET FOR IT!!!

CAYLEES LIFE IS JUST A GAME TO THEM!!


Jesse has already said Casey is not acting like she did when they were together. Jesse still loves Caylee as does his whole family. He also said he didn't think Casey would hurt Caylee. Jesse seems to have been closer to Casey and has more knowledge of her family than all her other so called friends. I have a feeling Jesse is helping LE more than we are aware of.

[5boxersmom]

Hi Pag,

What I see is a total disassociation with her pregnancy and her child. If she never truly acknowledged the pregnancy, how can you truly bond with the child. She pretended Caylee wasn't there for so long, then had to deal with the aftermath of her "mistake".

If a mother doesn't bond with a child, there can be extreme consequences - including not caring, disassociation, child abuse, and even murder.

Caylee's mom was Cindy, and Caysey punished Cindy by getting rid of Caylee - with no emotion whatsoever.

This, of course, is my opinion.

Peace,


That is what my dad says. He hasn't followed the case like us but he says Casey was jealous of Caylee and got rid of her.

jmo

[GrannyB]

Oh yes we know so much about Cindy but not much about Caylee. What was Caylee's favorite food?

jmo

It's strange how they don't say anything about Caylee. Most parents of missing children especially that young are telling what their child likes and needs. Nope the Anthony's are one of a kind.

[5boxersmom]

I think George is covering for either Cindy or Casey from day one. I also believe it was an accident. I lean towards Cindy just because of the way she is. I admit it could be Casey but if an accident I just see her getting Cindy to fix another of her screw ups.

If Casey was drugging Caylee it wouldn't really have been an accident. She is kinda getting Cindy to try to fix this screw up. Cindy talks and talks on tv but where is Casey? Hiding behind her attorney. I don't think Casey would take the blame if it was Cindy. She could be the grieving mother getting everyones sympathy. jmo

[GrannyB]

I had heard it a couple times before now Lee says it in his interview......
I agree why have your mom in there if you do not want her to be a part of it.........

It makes me wonder why the Anthony's make such a big deal of it. If the father was in the room they usually get to hold the baby first. No daddy so Cindy was in the daddy's place and they handed her the baby. Why 3 years later are they still talking about it.

[5boxersmom]

I read in one of the IM's and I think also from Cindy that Caylee loved pizza....

I wish I had the link to share - but couldn't begin to tell you where to find it.

Best,


Thanks. I never heard that, but we do still seem to know more about Cindy then Caylee. So sad. jmo

[GrannyB]

If Casey was drugging Caylee it wouldn't really have been an accident. She is kinda getting Cindy to try to fix this screw up. Cindy talks and talks on tv but where is Casey? Hiding behind her attorney. I don't think Casey would take the blame if it was Cindy. She could be the grieving mother getting everyones sympathy. jmo

All of this would be true if the Anthony's were normal. And if one thing we do for is sure they don't come close to normal.

[5boxersmom]

It makes me wonder why the Anthony's make such a big deal of it. If the father was in the room they usually get to hold the baby first. No daddy so Cindy was in the daddy's place and they handed her the baby. Why 3 years later are they still talking about it.

I just don't understand why it is such a big deal. George even mentioned it in his interview. :shrug: