Sunday, 9/28, Afternoon/Evening, Day 104

[kitty1182]

My Daddy has told me since i was a little girl that ALL doggies go to heaven. (unless the are scoundrels) I have to believe that he doesn't lie to me.

Barn...:rose:



He didn't lie...:)

[hamebone]

What is he selling?:confused:


He had his MySpace before Caylee went missing..

[marshmallow]

Looks like they are having the prayer vigil tonight at 8:30.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anythong-vigil-092808,0,5731517.story

Thought this was interesting:

"We ask the public to keep looking for Caylee alive and or any manner that one sees fit," Garrison said."



I don't get this. The HOA asked the family to stop the vigils and thingsl ately have mellowed for the neighborhood (and LE). Makes me wonder why the family is trying to stir the mess back up. Almost seems like they miss the attention.

[dtviewer]

Good job, you paid attention. ;)


Nice twist once again.


Grund, Sr.

He's made mention that he now believes that "Sammy" has Caylee.

I'm in the midst of finding out how far this theory goes with him and why, although it can't be from very long ago at all, because this certainly wasn't this theory 2 weeks ago.

Mr Grund has NEVER said he believes 'Sammy' HAS Caylee. You have been asked numerous times where you have heard this said by mr Grund.

Of course it never was, which is why you remained silent.

[kitty1182]

He had his MySpace before Caylee went missing..



Correct!!!! :beer:

[playnice]

Yes, you could feel the sadness all around him. I'm glad he went on Nancy's show to explain things. Seems that Cindy had been dissing Jesse and Jesse's Dad felt the need to set the record straight.

Im really not understanding the need to keep on dissing this family when they have cooperated and Jessie took a LD test and passed.
Casey has even changed her story now. so why is it still going on with trying to blame Jessie and talk bad about his family?

[cloe23]

I think she had a special Saturday visit at Jose's.


:eek: OMG one can only imagine what level this relationship is going to go to.

[cassidy]

:shrug:Does anyone know if there are people at the Anthony's for the prayer service? TIA

:rose:Caylee, not forgotten by some

Are either of the webcams working tonite?

[kitty1182]

Nothing and it's just one more person they can belittle for no reason whatsoever. IMO



I feel sorry for this man and his son...:(

[dtviewer]

Could you show me which post that "twisted facts.

Heres one. And there are more of course.

Grund, Sr.

He's made mention that he now believes that "Sammy" has Caylee.

I'm in the midst of finding out how far this theory goes with him and why, although it can't be from very long ago at all, because this certainly wasn't this theory 2 weeks ago.

Mr Grund has NEVER mentioned 'Sammy' has Caylee.

[hamebone]

It would serve you well to take lessons from jbellaj and actually read the posts for what they are, instead of attempting to read into them.

That's where you get into trouble.

DG, do you talk to people in real life like you do online?

[Joan-Pa.]

will the vigil be shown on the Webcam? anyone know which one.. one seems stuck. anyone know about the vigil.
Thanks

[jammies]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecamera.html


That is the same pic from last night. darn.

[day2day]

He didn't lie...:)

I hope not!! IF he starts tellin me about nanny's and stuff i'm gone!! :chicken:

[kakax]

What is he selling?:confused:

She escaped!

I couldn't find the original so I made you one rofl!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif

[Rayosunshine]

What is he selling?:confused:

Uh, religion.

[hamebone]

Im really not understanding the need to keep on dissing this family when they have cooperated and Jessie took a LD test and passed.
Casey has even changed her story now. so why is it still going on with trying to blame Jessie and talk bad about his family?


You know what I think it is?


intellectual dishonest!


Intellectual dishonesty is the advocacy of a position which the advocate knows or believes to be false, or is the advocacy of a position which the advocate does not know to be true, and has not performed rigorous due diligence to insure the truthfulness of the position. Rhetoric is used to advance an agenda or to reinforce one's deeply held beliefs in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence.[1] If a person is aware of the evidence and agrees with the conclusion it portends, yet advocates a contradictory view, they commit intellectual dishonesty. If the person is unaware of the evidence, their position is ignorance, even if in agreement with the scientific conclusion. If the person is knowingly aware that there may be additional evidence but purposefully fails to check, and then acts as though the position is confirmed, this is also intellectual dishonesty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_dishonesty

[kakax]

http://scaredmonkeys.com/


Don't forget live internet show on Scared Monkeys with Clint van Zandt.

[kitty1182]

Uh, religion.

Nope, that's on the TV channels that beg for money..

[kitty1182]

She escaped!

I couldn't find the original so I made you one rofl!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif





LMFAO..I love it!!!!!!!!!!! :lol::lol:

[day2day]

She escaped!

I couldn't find the original so I made you one rofl!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif

Run Caseyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! lol..
:lol:

[nana6]

She escaped!

I couldn't find the original so I made you one rofl!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif

well, she sure did!! AND she is hopping on one foot!!

[dtviewer]

You know what I think it is?


intellectual dishonest!


---snipped---[/url]

Or lying.

But hey, tomato, tomoto.

[jbellaj]

We are all consumed with what happened to Caylee. We all want the answers and so with that comes tension. The tensions are starting to fly and I don't want to take part and bicker back and forth with who said what and why they said it etc. So on that note bid you all a good night. Stay safe. :seeya:

[kakax]

LMFAO..I love it!!!!!!!!!!! :lol::lol:


I'm glad you like it...just for you!!!

[joolz]

It would serve you well to take lessons from jbellaj and actually read the posts for what they are, instead of attempting to read into them.

That's where you get into trouble.


I'm in trouble? :confused: I was just trying to help clarify a baffling post, in the same way other posters were doing, without belittling or deriding other members. Oh well, don't want to cause any trouble, so I'll just not try to do that any more. K?;)

[kitty1182]

Casey, are you reading here? IF so check out the link above..

You Go Girl:lol:

[kitty1182]

I'm glad you like it...just for you!!!



Thank You....... :lol:

[luvinlife]

She escaped!

I couldn't find the original so I made you one rofl!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif


Okay now that was roflmao. :lol:


I don't know how far she will get hoping around like that though.

[day2day]

I never implied that in my post. I would never be disrespectful to any poster regardless of their opionion or ideas. I live, to each their own. JMOIf it looked like I was being disrespectful to DG or any other poster I am truely sorry.

I don't think that anyone believes you are disrespectful. I think they were talkin bout DG...
:seeya:

[nana6]

I'm in trouble? :confused: I was just trying to help clarify a baffling post, in the same way other posters were doing, without belittling or deriding other members. Oh well, don't want to cause any trouble, so I'll just not try to do that any more. K?;)

Joolz, you are way too nice

[OneUp]

Time to lurk other areas of IS for a bit as giving attention to the desperate is not really what I came online for..I was hoping for positive news about Caylee's case.
It does appear the candlight vigil tonight must have passed by peacefully. No matter my feelings for the family in general, I'm glad it was held w/o incident. Caylee's memory deserves better than a front yard brawl.
JMO.

[kakax]

Okay now that was roflmao. :lol:


I don't know how far she will get hoping around like that though.

You can't see it but she runs smack dab into a news van and gets apprehended by Bernice the St. Bernard....LOL!

[dtviewer]

She won't find one, because jbellaj stated it exactly as it was posted - good for her, but I'd expect nothing less than that from jbellaj.

Ooppss...heres one....

Grund, Sr.

He's made mention that he now believes that "Sammy" has Caylee.

I'm in the midst of finding out how far this theory goes with him and why, although it can't be from very long ago at all, because this certainly wasn't this theory 2 weeks ago.

Grund NEVER, EVER said he believes 'Sammy' has Caylee.
But hey, why let the truth get in the way of trying to make things more 'sinister'.;)

[mosey2]

She escaped!

I couldn't find the original so I made you one rofl!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif
OMG!! Too funny!!:lol:

[kakax]

Time to lurk other areas of IS for a bit as giving attention to the desperate is not really what I came online for..I was hoping for positive news about Caylee's case.
It does appear the candlight vigil tonight must have passed by peacefully. No matter my feelings for the family in general, I'm glad it was held w/o incident. Caylee's memory deserves better than a front yard brawl.
JMO.

Guess I will too....don't forget Scared Monkeys at 9. Have a good night yall!!

[cloe23]

She escaped!

I couldn't find the original so I made you one rofl!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif


:lol: Notice how her poor leg is stuck up and wont come down? I bet it is due to the ancklett! At first glace I'm like :eek: what is she doing?
Why is she running like that. You had me going for a brief.

[Amy]

Originally Posted by hamebone
who is sammy? he didnt say anything about this last week on NG....NG asked if he thought caylee was dead...he said I walk by faith not by sight...until I see proof...dont remember what he said after that ...NG may have cut him off...but who is sammy?




Sammy is the Rottweiler that is in the pictures of Caylee as a baby. Mr Grund believes that Sammy is with Caylee because the beloved dog died recently.
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Whatever happened to the story that Sammie (Sam) was Zanny's sister who was with her in the park when they took Caylee and gave Casey the script and Sam was killed (altho I must admit I never caught up with the story about HOW Sam was killed._???????? TIA

[kitty1182]

OMG!! Too funny!!:lol:







Looks like she come right out the window.LOL

[ruth66]

I have NEVER thought nor have I seen anything that has ever led me to believe anyone but Casey was involved with the disappearance of Caylee. Why on earth would Cindy have called 911 if she was some how involved? That much I will give her.

However after those first calls, I think Cindy has gone into an extreme cover-up mode and spent much to much precious time doing so. Her credibility seems have been spent as far as most in the position to help her find Caylee are concerned. Like the little boy who cried wolf. It makes it hard to emphasis with her when she continues on the same protect Casey course.

She has acted more like Caseys lawyer, and a bad one at that, than Caylees grandmother who should be wanting to get to the bottom of all these lies. Instead she spins unbelievable tales and excuses always in an attempt to put Casey in the best light.

The way she has acted about test results BEFORE they come back and Tim's search BEFORE it was completed......REALLY makes me question this whole DENIAL EXCUSE that has been put forward. IF she TOTALLY believes in her daughters innocence and that Caylee IS alive, why spend ANYTIME debating over it all if she knows these test and searches will come out negative? Even when her actions backfire she continues to do the same as if she has no other course to follow.

Is she not in the least bit upset with Casey for supposedly giving Caylee to someone who must be some kind of weirdo at best? How do you possibly go from that to Mother of the Year???...Even Susan Smiths mother confronted her when she believed Susan's story of her kids disappearance was not true.

How did Cindy go from the pizza excuse to now there was a dead body in that trunk but someone else put it there yet it was not Caylee? What does she now know?

How can Cindy blame others for not searching for Caylee when she gives out sighting in places like Texas......however she herself appears to have never never left the Orlando area?

Why does Cindy always appear to be giving LE and the media the runaround? Yet we hear as with Casey, her 911 calls in which she gives factual accounts of events and easily answers questioned when SHE needs help. That pretty much blows the excuse that Cindy just always talks in a rambling runaround manner and cannot help it. Just like her daughter they both know how to answer questions and tell the truth when it is to their liking AND it is THEY who need help!

ITA, I have no doubt that if Cindy thought Caylee was really still on earth with us that she wouldn't have already gone and gotten her herself. She would be protecting Caylee just like she is protecting Casey if she actually thought she was alive....

[joolz]

Joolz, you are way too nice

TY. :seeya:

[nana6]

good night friends of Caylee's. Pray for a better tomorrow for this little angel-mayshe be found:rose:

[kitty1182]

I'm thinking the only way she could get that ankle bracelet off was with the direct approach. :lol:



Oh My Mercy:lol:

[kakax]

I'm thinking the only way she could get that ankle bracelet off was with the direct approach. :lol:


Now that is funny rofl!!!

You can see my talents don't lie in animation LOL!!

[luvinlife]

You can't see it but she runs smack dab into a news van and gets apprehended by Bernice the St. Bernard....LOL!


:lol:



I really would like this all to end soon. I want Caylee found and I want Casey to pay the price for what she is done.



I pray that TES comes back and they find Caylee, I do hope if what LE is waiting for is a body it is so they can find her quilty of something more than negligence that caused her death, because I don't personally believe her death was because of negligence. JMHO

[kitty1182]

good night friends of Caylee's. Pray for a better tomorrow for this little angel-mayshe be found:rose:



Good night nana...See ya tomorrow..:seeya:

[steffaroob4]

any vigil news? is there a cam up?

[joolz]

OMG!! Too funny!!:lol:

Love it Kakax! ROTFLMAO!

[cloe23]

Originally Posted by hamebone
who is sammy? he didnt say anything about this last week on NG....NG asked if he thought caylee was dead...he said I walk by faith not by sight...until I see proof...dont remember what he said after that ...NG may have cut him off...but who is sammy?




Sammy is the Rottweiler that is in the pictures of Caylee as a baby. Mr Grund believes that Sammy is with Caylee because the beloved dog died recently.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Whatever happened to the story that Sammie (Sam) was Zanny's sister who was with her in the park when they took Caylee and gave Casey the script and Sam was killed (altho I must admit I never caught up with the story about HOW Sam was killed._???????? TIA


TG the dogs name wasnt Sally. I don't think I could of taken that!

[bluwaters]

Are either of the webcams working tonite?
Nope, neither cam is working.

[Pruddennce]

Why does Cindy always appear to be giving LE and the media the runaround? Yet we hear as with Casey, her 911 calls in which she gives factual accounts of events and easily answers questioned when SHE needs help. That pretty much blows the excuse that Cindy just always talks in a rambling runaround manner and cannot help it. Just like her daughter they both know how to answer questions and tell the truth when it is to their liking AND it is THEY who need help!

above respectfully snipped but not forgotten...

Im feeling EVERY word you wrote.

this is where it began with Cindy:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/27/fla.missing.girl/

Cindy Anthony has since said that she believes her granddaughter is alive.

"Casey's maintained that she's protecting Caylee, and she's also protecting the family from physical harm. We believe that 100 percent,"

now what is she talking about today?

she is still listening to all of the senseless 'stories' casey formulates week by week.

everyone knows now that 'the Jessee or amy has Caylee story' was a new fable told to Cindy by Casey. who else?

whatever happened to the above statement. it wasnt interesting enough, so Casey made up another one?

I forgot, which is it now: blanchard park with zanny's sister as an accomplice?

....and that is how Cindy Anthony wishes the public to search for her grandaughter. Im beginning to wonder who is the more psychotic of the two?

gawd.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[need2no]

She escaped!

I couldn't find the original so I made you one rofl!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif



:lol: ROFL!

[Pag Boi]

That's an understatement.
I'm really getting tired of the belittling of other posters and people in this case who speak out but are not responsible for Caylee disappearing or dying. That is one reason i got fed up lastnight and replied to them. Should not have done it but I'm getting pretty sick of them and their tirades against others while proclaiming they are the ones getting picked on etc.

You are a victim.....Casey thinks she is too. :rolleyes:
JMOO

[Rayosunshine]

She won't find one, because jbellaj stated it exactly as it was posted - good for her, but I'd expect nothing less than that from jbellaj.

Be sure to pm me the dirt on Sammy.

[AlohaRainbow]

JUNE
16-Casey's staying overnight at Zanny's
17-Casey's staying overnight at Zanny's
18-20- Zanny and Caylee and Annabell (Julliette's child) are staying at Hardrock Hotel while Casey and Juliette attend Conference in Orlando
20- Conference is moved to Tampa wher they will all stay at the Marriot at Busch Gardens
21- Wrapping things up and coming home
22-Zannys roomate shows up to Tampa
23- In the morning as they were leaving Tampa Zanny and Raquell Farrell get in wreck
24-Casey has to get insurance papers from Zanny's apt. (gas can day)

George saw Casey flee after Gas can day. he said sometinme between the 23 and 27. We know gas can day was the 24th, so that narrows it to either the 25,26 or 27
thanks for answering and providing the timeline context!

[joolz]

above respectfully snipped but not forgotten...

Im feeling EVERY word you wrote.

this is where it began with Cindy:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/27/fla.missing.girl/

Cindy Anthony has since said that she believes her granddaughter is alive.

"Casey's maintained that she's protecting Caylee, and she's also protecting the family from physical harm. We believe that 100 percent,"

now what is she talking about today?

she is still listening to all of the senseless 'stories' casey formulates week by week.

everyone knows now that 'the Jessee or amy has Caylee story' was a new fable told to Cindy by Casey. who else?

whatever happened to the above statement. it wasnt interesting enough, so Casey made up another one?

I forgot, which is it now: blanchard park with zanny's sister as an accomplice?

....and that is how Cindy Anthony wishes the public to search for her grandaughter. Im beginning to wonder who is the more psychotic of the two?

gawd.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

ITA Pru! I have this feeling that Casey is just cool as a cucumber as she comes up with lie after lie, and then Cindy takes those lies and acts like a cornered rat as she spews them. The two of them are off the charts in different ways, JMO.

[msjoni]

Someone on another site said that Sammy was their dog who passed away. I have no way of knowing if this is true LOL!

Sammy was their beloved dog...
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog&friendID=85212505&blogMonth=&BlogDay=&blogYear=&Mytoken=77EBB562-0F41-4CFC-943E221F7998115799992317

[bluwaters]

Time to lurk other areas of IS for a bit as giving attention to the desperate is not really what I came online for..I was hoping for positive news about Caylee's case.
It does appear the candlight vigil tonight must have passed by peacefully. No matter my feelings for the family in general, I'm glad it was held w/o incident. Caylee's memory deserves better than a front yard brawl.
JMO.
It started at 8:30. I doubt if the vigil is over yet.

[dtviewer]

Be sure to pm me the dirt on Sammy.

Shhhhhh......I heard, and this isnt confirmed....but Sammy was known to take food off the Grunds dinner table when they werent paying attention.....:eek:

Of course, thats because the only REAL Sammy in this case was the Grunds dog 'Sammy' that passed away back in December.

[kitty1182]

I have been trying to stop laughing but you all keep quoting that link and i lose it everytime. This is jysterical. Kakax really did a great job and it's funny as heck. lol :lol:



Heck, it should be in the Links section:D

[brodysho]

Not sure why there was such a misunderstanding about Sammy the dog, who has recently passed. The myspace blog was pretty apparant as to what he was trying to say.

I wonder what changed Richard Grunds mind from the other night on Nancy Grace, where he stated that he wouldn't believe she's deceased until there's solid proof, to him thinking Caylee is in heaven? Hence the sammy the dog comments.

[day2day]

You are a victim.....Casey thinks she is too. :rolleyes:
JMOO

Rebel actually went out and searched for Caylee..have you?
just askin..

[jammies]

good night friends of Caylee's. Pray for a better tomorrow for this little angel-mayshe be found:rose:



Night, nana. Sweet dreams.

[hamebone]

above respectfully snipped but not forgotten...

Im feeling EVERY word you wrote.

this is where it began with Cindy:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/27/fla.missing.girl/

Cindy Anthony has since said that she believes her granddaughter is alive.

"Casey's maintained that she's protecting Caylee, and she's also protecting the family from physical harm. We believe that 100 percent,"

now what is she talking about today?

she is still listening to all of the senseless 'stories' casey formulates week by week.

everyone knows now that 'the Jessee or amy has Caylee story' was a new fable told to Cindy by Casey. who else?

whatever happened to the above statement. it wasnt interesting enough, so Casey made up another one?

I forgot, which is it now: blanchard park with zanny's sister as an accomplice?

....and that is how Cindy Anthony wishes the public to search for her grandaughter. Im beginning to wonder who is the more psychotic of the two?

gawd.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Hey Pru

do you know anything about those computer searches

on Caseys computer, how to read the dates she checked out the name ZG>?

[Rayosunshine]

Sammy was their beloved dog...
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog&friendID=85212505&blogMonth=&BlogDay=&blogYear=&Mytoken=77EBB562-0F41-4CFC-943E221F7998115799992317

Thanks, but that's not the Sammy I'm talking about. I already know about the dog.

[mosey2]

thanks for answering and providing the timeline context!
My pleasure. Akamai. Say aloha to the Ala Wai for me:seeya:

[barskin&co.]

Not sure why there was such a misunderstanding about Sammy the dog, who has recently passed. The myspace blog was pretty

I wonder what changed Richard Grunds mind from the other night on Nancy Grace, where he stated that he wouldn't believe she's deceased until there's solid proof, to him thinking Caylee is in heaven? Hence the sammy the dog comments.

Maybe, he has spoken to the police since Cindy's accusations about Jesse have been revealed. :shrug:

[dtviewer]

Maybe that's what their prayers contain, that whoever holds the key, whether it be Casey, or in this case otherwise, comes forth and brings an alive Caylee home.

Still waiting for the link to back up your statement that Mr Grund now thinks 'Sammy' has Caylee?

[playnice]

Not sure why there was such a misunderstanding about Sammy the dog, who has recently passed. The myspace blog was pretty

I wonder what changed Richard Grunds mind from the other night on Nancy Grace, where he stated that he wouldn't believe she's deceased until there's solid proof, to him thinking Caylee is in heaven? Hence the sammy the dog comments.

The latest doc dump?:shrug: Was pretty convincing to me. Casey searching missing persons sites in Mar, whining how hard it was to take care of her kid, needing a vacation and it was time to look out for # one.

[joolz]

Thanks, but that's not the Sammy I'm talking about. I already know about the dog.


Who is the Sammy your are talking about?

[dtviewer]

Thanks, but that's not the Sammy I'm talking about. I already know about the dog.

thats the only Sammy that has been found and verified so far.

[need2no]

I have been trying to stop laughing but you all keep quoting that link and i lose it everytime. This is jysterical. Kakax really did a great job and it's funny as heck. lol :lol:

Yep, that was too funny.

Just for a moment we can dream, can't we? :biggrin:

[Pruddennce]

ITA Pru! I have this feeling that Casey is just cool as a cucumber as she comes up with lie after lie, and then Cindy takes those lies and acts like a cornered rat as she spews them. The two of them are off the charts in different ways, JMO.

and Cindy, even when presented with statements from LE that these people do not exist, everything they investigated thru information provided by Casey has been a brick wall, no evidence.....doesnt exist....

they tell her jessee/amy does not have caylee(um they are investigators)....

..cindy CONTINUES to interrupt him and says: sombody else connected with jessee has caylee, asking them about investigating THAT (lol, paraphrasing), and LE hammered back at her..YOU SAID JESSEE..., we told you NO, its not him, and while LE is in mid sentence saying Jessee isnt responsible, 'they know that'....she is offering up another phantom connection....(wow and without casey's input)..

sigh..thats why I am of the opinion she has some form of untreated mental illness as well...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[EGirl]

You are a victim.....Casey thinks she is too. :rolleyes:
JMOO

:rolleyes:

Rebel walks the walk.... do you just talk the talk?

pfft IMO

[kitty1182]

Who is the Sammy your are talking about?



I wonder that myself.. :confused:

[brodysho]

The latest doc dump?:shrug: Was pretty convincing to me. Casey searching missing persons sites in Mar, whining how hard it was to take care of her kid, needing a vacation and it was time to look out for # one.

I thought the recent doc dump happened before he went on NG? I am most likely mistaken, but I thought it was before.

I think he's supposed to be on NG tomorrow too. Perhaps he will reveal his reasonings for this.

[playnice]

thats the only Sammy that has been found and verified so far.

Caseys lastest story is she sold Caylee so I think the imaginary Z and her sister Sam have all returned to the story books?:shrug:

[ellvarn]

Sorry for another question to my fellow posters - but I have to ask if there is a link to just the text messages that I keep hearing about where it's over 500 texts and only 2 about Caylee.

I can't read all the documents rekeased but would like to read the texts. Can anyone help me find just the texts?

TYIA

BTW - I am so bad at searching - hammer

[day2day]

Who is the Sammy your are talking about?

Sammy -doggy that died
Sammy-imaginary sister of imaginary Nanny Z?
Are there others they have "created"

:shrug:

[EGirl]

Casey, are you reading here? IF so check out the link above..

You Go Girl:lol:


:lol: LMAO!


Oh hell no sweet Kitty, I'mna come by and pick you up and we'll head south. THEN, she can run.



We'll catch her

PS HI! Long time no see. :seeya:

[dtviewer]

While you've got her attention, would you mind asking about Zanny's son's profession? TIA

She hasnt backed up a single thing she has said since the begining of the case, so I am not holding my breath.

Of course, she hasnt admitted when she has been proven wrong ever either, she just retwists what she said into a different 'fact'.

Hmmmmmmm

[Pag Boi]

Obviously you have a problem reading and comprehending MY posts. I cannot help you with that.

AHelpless victim now

[jammies]

Well, you keep waiting. I'll just head on out to Bora Bora again and check on your progress when I get back.



i was gonna tell her to call 911 for oxygen ASAP!

[dtviewer]

So did jbellaj, and you will never see her try to make herself a hero for that - but she's of high quality character.

Ahhh, so now a little swipe at Rebel, huh DG?

I wouldnt expect anything less.....

[Pruddennce]

Evning Pru!

I find it hard to fathom that after 30+ days, Cindy didn't notice her cc's missing. Most women open their wallet every day for some reason or another - I know I do. And I would notice if a cc was missing immediately.

In today's times (identity theft, etc) I think we're all a bit more cautious.

So yes, I think Cindy knew Caysey had her cc's, and should have used that as leverage to get Caysey and Caylee back to her house asap. If Caysey went on about not being able to get home - Cindy could have gone to her, or called LE to report the card(s) missing .

Best,

hey NCNTUTLPRVN!

I believe Cindy got her statements mid month for the cc cards (IMO they are cards she doesnt readily use and they were in a drawer).....possibly right after she left the home she gets a statement....

and then knew she was having a good ole time a month before with her cards.....

but as far as a bank card.....its unclear to me (so much info right now) if that has been established, that she took a visa/debit card from cindy. it appears she did because she said "BANK STATEMENT" in her 911 call.

I really believe these are not cards she was carrying.

best regards,
Pru

[EGirl]

So did jbellaj, and you will never see her try to make herself a hero for that - but she's of high quality character.

The same can't be said of you.


IMO

[summer4meplz]

she escaped!

I couldn't find the original so i made you one rofl!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/caseyrun-1.gif


lololol that's talent kakax!!

[FrankieBones1]

Not sure why there was such a misunderstanding about Sammy the dog, who has recently passed. The myspace blog was pretty apparant as to what he was trying to say.

I wonder what changed Richard Grunds mind from the other night on Nancy Grace, where he stated that he wouldn't believe she's deceased until there's solid proof, to him thinking Caylee is in heaven? Hence the sammy the dog comments.
Maybe he came to grips finally. It happens.
No grandparent wants to believe their grandchild was murdered. I just think he finally let go and accepted the truth.

Even thought he wasn't really the grandparent by blood, he felt he was one to Caylee.

[lonetraveler]

ITA Pru! I have this feeling that Casey is just cool as a cucumber as she comes up with lie after lie, and then Cindy takes those lies and acts like a cornered rat as she spews them. The two of them are off the charts in different ways, JMO.

-------------------------
I can just imagine how Casey chuckles to herself after spewing yet another lie to her mother as Cindy trots off to explain to the LE and the public what the current story is with Caylee. Cindy for God's sake, slap yourself into reality and stop being her fool.

[day2day]

So did jbellaj, and you will never see her try to make herself a hero for that - but she's of high quality character.

Rebel has NEVER called herself a hero. And i believe they BOTH have great "character" as do most people who volunteer their time to search for a lost littleone. Heck Caylee's own family hasn't stepped the first foot. jmo

[bluwaters]

Clint Van Zandt on Dana Pretzer NOW:
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/09/28/the-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio-sunday-september-28-2008-guests-include-dr-clint-van-zandt-and-kim-palmer/

[FrankieBones1]

I'm outta here. I see that a lot of peeps keep quoting the troll and I don't want any part of it. She brings the whole board down.

For Caylee :rose:

[day2day]

The attorney for the missing Caylee Anthony's grandparents said the "Help Find Caylee" trust fund account was reopened on Sunday.

On Sunday afternoon, George and Cindy Anthony spoke with well-wishers and took donations at a Publix near their home.

Last week, the bank administering the fund closed it down after receiving allegations of charity fraud

http://www.wesh.com/news/17576903/detail.html

Unfreakinbelievable. These people are shameless..:rose:

jmo

[dtviewer]

Interesting, because Tony is now calling Clint a liar.

Hmm....

Still waiting for where you got the information that you posted that Mr grund thinks 'Sammy' has Caylee?

Certainly you will back up what you post?

:shrug:

[desmom]

Sorry for another question to my fellow posters - but I have to ask if there is a link to just the text messages that I keep hearing about where it's over 500 texts and only 2 about Caylee.

I can't read all the documents rekeased but would like to read the texts. Can anyone help me find just the texts?

TYIA

BTW - I am so bad at searching - hammer

I think all the released documents are listed here:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

[kakax]

Thanks Kakax.......do you know if they ever put these on Youtube?
I REALLY like CVZ and his opinions on cases such as these....Is he own for the full hour?.......I went to their site as I have done before but have never been able to get the show......Thank for all the great links!!!

I'm not sure if they end up on youtube. You need to download windows media player to get it to work.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/11/default.aspx

[?noanswer]

Interesting, because Tony is now calling Clint a liar.

Hmm....


Where? JMO

[Pag Boi]

So did jbellaj, and you will never see her try to make herself a hero for that - but she's of high quality character.

ITA.

Too many 15 minute wo/men in this tragedy. So sad. Run clock run


May Caylee find peace and have justice. SOON. :rose:

JMOO

[jammies]

So did jbellaj, and you will never see her try to make herself a hero for that - but she's of high quality character.



I don't think you want to go there, sweetie.

[barskin&co.]

Clint Van Zandt on Dana Pretzer NOW:
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/09/28/the-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio-sunday-september-28-2008-guests-include-dr-clint-van-zandt-and-kim-palmer/

He's talking about the financial crisis now. Patiently waiting for the Caylee case. Everybody knows that Clint Van Zandt is the Former FBI Hostage Negotiator, Profiler and MSNBC Analyst, as opposed to Clint House, who stayed with Tony Lazzaro in June, right?

[desmom]

Take it to PM please! This thread is going to be shut down if posters keep making jabs at each other. jmo

Please light a candle for Caylee!


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

[ellvarn]

I had that link just the other day let me try and find it. There is so much and not every site has everything all in one place. It's annoying.

That's my problem in this case, I am overwhelmed with info that I can't find anything.

[runnnempty]

Interesting, because Tony is now calling Clint a liar.

Hmm....

Wrong Clint.

[Pag Boi]

Where? JMO

On the SM board where it is alleged to be him posting.

ETA: runnempty is correct. Tony calls the "roommate" that was on GVS a liar. Not CVZ

[joolz]

Where? JMO


:shrug: Huh? I'm listening to the show and Clint VZ is talking about the economic crisis and proposed bailout.

[bluwaters]

Dana and Clint VZ are now discussing the Wall Street bail out.

[LynnD]

Interesting, because Tony is now calling Clint a liar.

Hmm....


I wonder why Tony would call a former FBI agent a liar...:shrug:

[bluwaters]

Interesting, because Tony is now calling Clint a liar.

Hmm....

:lol: Very cute.
Who is Clint, DG?

[day2day]

OMG. Just no way. This is profiting off the death and tragedy of whatever happened to caylee. Seriously, the spew icon is here just for this family. I just wish it was a little steaming cowpile instead. More appropriate.

There is a special place reserved for these two. They REFUSE to search themselves for Caylee, they try to hinder Tim Millers search..yet they can stand at Publix and collect cash. I don't understand it.

jmo:cuss:

[kitty1182]

:lol: LMAO!


Oh hell no sweet Kitty, I'mna come by and pick you up and we'll head south. THEN, she can run.



We'll catch her

PS HI! Long time no see. :seeya:




Hi there!!!!!! :seeya:


Caylee deserved so much more...

[?noanswer]

When I saw other posters getting angry at a certain poster, I thought it was because she had an opposite view. Several days ago I know she posted incorrect information and again tonight it seems that she is posting incorrect information. If it is not exactly correct, it is misleading. I am beginning to understand why posters are getting angry. JMO

[barskin&co.]

Okay, they are going on to the Caylee case, now.

[bluwaters]

Dana and Clint now on Caylee

[Howiefan]

Still waiting for the link to back up your statement that Mr Grund now thinks 'Sammy' has Caylee?
lol don't hold your breath:lol:

[?noanswer]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3434.60

He is not talking about Clint VanZant. JMO

[hamebone]

Interesting, because Tony is now calling Clint a liar.

Hmm....

why is Tony calling Clint Van Zandt a liar...what has he to do with Tony or this case???

[Pag Boi]

FWIW the Clint that Tony is talking about is the DJ that was on GVS and stayed with him. The one claiming Casey was such a great mom.

[barskin&co.]

Clint VZ said about Casey and Cindy, "the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree."

[ellvarn]

I think all the released documents are listed here:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

Thank you.

[dtviewer]

FWIW the Clint that Tony is talking about is the DJ that was on GVS and stayed with him. The one claiming Casey was such a great mom.

What proof is there that the poster is in fact really TonE?

Thanks Pag.

[day2day]

Dana and Clint now on Caylee

i can't listen to this either..for some reason :(

[day2day]

Clint VZ said about Casey and Cindy, "the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree."

LOL- like i have been sayin-the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. I love CVZ!!

[?noanswer]

Clint VZant just said Casey had emailed people saying a way to get a child to sleep is to use cholorform (sp?) (not exactly word for word). Has anyone else heard about this? JMO

[dtviewer]

Searching for Caylee can be done many ways other than a foot search.

Yep, and the Anthony's havent partaken in any of them.

Still waiting for the link that Mr Grund now believes 'Sammy' has Caylee?

:shrug:

[Kathlb]

It would serve you well to take lessons from jbellaj and actually read the posts for what they are, instead of attempting to read into them.

That's where you get into trouble.


You know, you are very confusing and often sarcastic to others. I don't know if you're doing it on purpose or not, I tend to think so or you wouldn't be wrong so many times. I wish you would post links to your statements like this. I'm trying so hard to research and figure things out and just when I think I have some things that show me a timeline and statements by those involved, you throw things out there that are confusing and usually wrong. I can only imagine how new people feel who are trying to get caught up. If you're doing it on purpose, it's not funny or entertaining.

Just like the other day when you went off topic and started posting that Geraldo was on a spot that he definitely wasn't during Ike in Galveston when he was on the sea wall. That didn't confuse me because I lived there and knew for a fact that was wrong and I knew exactly where he was.

Please from now on post some links if you would so new people especially won't be misled and confused when you post things that aren't facts. Jesse's father never said that Sammy "has" Caylee. That misled me big time and it's confusing to those who are coming in and trying to stay on point. You also need to keep in mind that we are typing here and reading exact words, and not hearing voice inflection. So please post links to your info if you would that way we all can check it out to see if it's true. Thank you. MOO I hope you noticed I asked nicely for this first time.

[bluwaters]

CVZ thinks Casey used chloroform to put Caylee out while Casey partied.
Caylee died. Casey did not mean to kill her.
Casey put her in the backyard, later dug her up and relocated the body.
Everything Casey says is a lie.
Can you get a conviction on CE, keep looking, hoping for evidence of a body?

[day2day]

Searching for Caylee can be done many ways other than a foot search.

George says he is searching 20+ hours a day. BS
Cindy said she will KNOCK on EVERY DOOR...BS

So you don't care they take money from innocent people to keep their "game" going? Sorry-i do!
Cindy sure didnt like Casey rippin her mama off. i don't like the idea of them rippin ANYONE off
jmo

[bluwaters]

Dana says it's a "babysitter in a bottle" case. :eek:

[n/t]

Clint VZant just said Casey had emailed people saying a way to get a child to sleep is to use cholorform (sp?) (not exactly word for word). Has anyone else heard about this? JMO

First time I hear she emailed people saying this. We know there were searches on her computer for chloroform.

hmmmmmmmm maybe Clint knows more than we do.

[dtviewer]

Yes, and ScaredMonkey's Admin. has also verified that this is the Tony that is involved with Casey.


And how exactly was this verified?

[ellvarn]

I downloaded everything but That doesn't help everyone looking for the information unless i make a web site that has everything all in ONE location which i might end up doing.
Still lokking for the link with the text messages.

Rebel I too did that, but if you can't find it tonight it's okay. I might PM you tomorrow and we can weed it out of this mess we cry over because of this darling little girl.

For Caylee - :rose:

[joolz]

Clint VZant just said Casey had emailed people saying a way to get a child to sleep is to use cholorform (sp?) (not exactly word for word). Has anyone else heard about this? JMO

No and it caught my interest too - but it went by so fast that I don't know if he was saying it as fact or theory. :shrug:

[barskin&co.]

First time I hear she emailed people saying this. We know there were searches on her computer for chloroform.

hmmmmmmmm maybe Clint knows more than we do.

Yes, perhaps he does.

[need2no]

He faults Cindy for this...that's the gene pool Casey is functioning from, per Clint. :D

[desmom]

Sorry that's not the same Clint. Clint was a twenty something year old kid who crashed on Tony's couch for a few weeks. Clint VD has been a highly sought guest speaker on various cases in the news.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7256927/

[Brattnt]

So did jbellaj, and you will never see her try to make herself a hero for that - but she's of high quality character.Oh knock it off!...You come here and spout misinformation, state everything as fact, never provide a link to a dang thing, and you wonder about someones else's character?!...PLEASE!.....:rolleyes:

MOO

[day2day]

Yes, perhaps he does.

I bet he does! So its OK if i use chloroform to put my littleone to sleep..and if i give her too much-i can say its an accident?

makes me VERY sad...:(

[bluwaters]

He's talking about the financial crisis now. Patiently waiting for the Caylee case. Everybody knows that Clint Van Zandt is the Former FBI Hostage Negotiator, Profiler and MSNBC Analyst, as opposed to Clint House, who stayed with Tony Lazzaro in June, right?

Anyone who follows this case and actually does the reading involved with staying current knows that.
I doubt that anyone in this case named Tony would say that Clint Van Zant is a liar.
Who could be that stupid?:no:

[Kathlb]

IMO, use Iggy. makes life so much easier, honestly. i am sure i am on iggy lists too, but thats ok cos we do what we have to. It doesn't even offend me, maybe I am just a tired old fool on the boards. I tell you,hammer my blood pressure is better. "I got a list!"

Thanks Barefooted, I guess I'll have to.

[n/t]

He faults Cindy for this...that's the gene pool Casey is functioning from, per Clint. :D

He's so right.

[n/t]

I bet he does! So its OK if i use chloroform to put my littleone to sleep..and if i give her too much-i can say its an accident?

makes me VERY sad...:(

No it's not ok. It's murder.

[desmom]

Some are discussing Clint Van Zandt on Dana Pretzer's show discussing the case.
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/2008/09/28/the-dana-pretzer-show-on-scared-monkeys-radio-sunday-september-28-2008-guests-include-dr-clint-van-zandt-and-kim-palmer/

and others are discussing Tony answering poster's questions here:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3434.60

jmo

[kitty1182]

Anyone who follows this case and actually does the reading involved with staying current knows that.
I doubt that anyone in this case named Tony would say that Clint Van Zant is a liar.
Who could be that stupid?:no:

LOL, no one!!

[bluwaters]

Interesting, because Tony is now calling Clint a liar.

Hmm....
I need you to back that statement up with a link please.

[dtviewer]

So you've convinced yourself that they're not searching, so then you jump to conclusion number 2 which is that you're just irate about donations due to your first conclusion.

Got it.


Glad you finally got it.
The Anthonys' should be ashamed.

Sadly they are not.........

[nc1948]

I wonder how much of the 2500 in the trust was used to buy those t-shirts and bracelets that they then SELL...hammer

On the helpfindcaylee web site they ask for donations of t-shirts. I imagine these are the same ones they sell.

[lonetraveler]

First time I hear she emailed people saying this. We know there were searches on her computer for chloroform.

hmmmmmmmm maybe Clint knows more than we do.

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He did't say that she emailed people with this. He was giving his synopsis of how things may have occurred.

[need2no]

He's so right.


Indeed he is.

[day2day]

No it's not ok. It's murder.

Thanks..thats what i was thinking. But i can hear them saying it wasn't murder-it was just a terrible terrible accident. ppfftt...jmo

[dtviewer]

I need you to back that statement up with a link please.

She (DG) posted a link to another message board where someone claiming to be TonE is answering questions.............for what its worth.

[hamebone]

Rebel I too did that, but if you can't find it tonight it's okay. I might PM you tomorrow and we can weed it out of this mess we cry over because of this darling little girl.

For Caylee - :rose:

what you need maybe I have it at hand?

[hamebone]

She (DG) posted a link to another message board where someone claiming to be TonE is answering questions.............for what its worth.

hey dtviewer..I sent you a pm

[day2day]

On the helpfindcaylee web site they ask for donations of t-shirts. I imagine these are the same ones they sell.

Yep-that would be my guess. IMO the money for those shirts was donated -why sell them? Makes little sense to me. But then again-i'm not an Anthony-THANK GOD...

jmo

[need2no]

---------------------------
He did't say that she emailed people with this. He was giving his synopsis of how things may have occurred.


That's what I heard too, was beginning to think I missed the e-mailed part due to reading while listening.

Good to hear I can do 2 things at one time. :D

[?noanswer]

That's what I heard too, was beginning to think I missed the e-mailed part due to reading while listening.

Good to hear I can do 2 things at one time. :D

Sorry I misheard. I used to be able to multi-task, but alas, that skill is fading fast. JMO

[lonetraveler]

No and it caught my interest too - but it went by so fast that I don't know if he was saying it as fact or theory. :shrug:


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Theory only.

[bluwaters]

I bet he does! So its OK if i use chloroform to put my littleone to sleep..and if i give her too much-i can say its an accident?

makes me VERY sad...:(
No, it's not ok. Of course someone who does that and kills their child could say it was an accident. I don't think because you call chloroforming your child to death an accident will get you off of a murder charge.

jmho

[n/t]

On the helpfindcaylee web site they ask for donations of t-shirts. I imagine these are the same ones they sell.

Sounds familiar. I know of one other family who had paypal on their missing child's website and sold merchandise. Tshirts, bracelets...

Yes, the McCanns. Makes me wonder if the Anthonys got the idea from them. Just sayin...

[need2no]

Sorry I misheard. I used to be able to multi-task, but alas, that skill is fading fast. JMO


No problem...

I find some days I can multi task better than others. :)

[kitty1182]

I'm lost here..I am a member of SM and I don't see anyone talking about a Clint:confused:

[desmom]

I'm lost here..I am a member of SM and I don't see anyone talking about a Clint:confused:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3434.60

[jammies]

I'm lost here..I am a member of SM and I don't see anyone talking about a Clint:confused:



Go to the Tony thread on WebSleuths. Towards the end he says Clint lied.

[day2day]

No, it's not ok. Of course someone who does that and kills their child could say it was an accident. I don't think because you call chloroforming your child to death an accident will get you off of a murder charge.

jmho

I sure hope not. I pray that she was only giving her the chloroform to make her sleep. I pray that this littleone was not being abused...:(

jmo

[?noanswer]

I'm lost here..I am a member of SM and I don't see anyone talking about a Clint:confused:

It wasn't on the forum. It was a live broadcast. Clint VanZant was a guest. He talked about the bailout and then about Caylee Anthony Case. Its off now. JMO

[bchand]

There is a special place reserved for these two. They REFUSE to search themselves for Caylee, they try to hinder Tim Millers search..yet they can stand at Publix and collect cash. I don't understand it.

jmo:cuss:

For those of us who don't have an "Publix" near us, what exactly IS it? Is it just a food store?

[LynnD]

Yep-that would be my guess. IMO the money for those shirts was donated -why sell them? Makes little sense to me. But then again-i'm not an Anthony-THANK GOD...

jmo


I assume the money they get from selling the donated shirts is put back into the trust,as well as any money donated thru pp,and sent to the Anthonys house.I guess we'll find out tommrow when they release the info...

[Pag Boi]

Yes, and ScaredMonkey's Admin. has also verified that this is the Tony that is involved with Casey.


Yes that is what admin says. But I take everything with a grain of salt. IE I recall a poster stating here that she had exchanged emails with the ZG on the Broward Co moms blog, verified that it was her cell number that Casey had, she was never at Sawgrass Apts, she'd had her personal info stolen in June, Casey must know thieves be blah blah blah. Wasn't true.

It is the internet. You can claim to be a PI that found 300 children. You can a nurse of decomposition if you fancy. Google makes everyone an expert. JMOO

[kitty1182]

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3434.60

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

[day2day]

Sounds familiar. I know of one other family who had paypal on their missing child's website and sold merchandise. Tshirts, bracelets...

Yes, the McCanns. Makes me wonder if the Anthonys got the idea from them. Just sayin...

:eek:...i wonder who did the searches on the missing childrens sites and why. it really makes me wonder...

jmo

[need2no]

For those of us who don't have an "Publix" near us, what exactly IS it? Is it just a food store?


An upscale grocery store where I live.

[dtviewer]

Yes that is what admin says. But I take everything with a grain of salt. IE I recall a poster stating here that she had exchanged emails with the ZG on the Broward Co moms blog, verified that it was her cell number that Casey had, she was never at Sawgrass Apts, she'd had her personal info stolen in June, Casey must know thieves be blah blah blah. Wasn't true.

It is the internet. You can claim to be a PI that found 300 children. You can a nurse of decomposition if you fancy. Google makes everyone an expert. JMOO

Thanks....I am very skeptical.......(Probably didnt spell that right)

[day2day]

I assume the money they get from selling the donated shirts is put back into the trust,as well as any money donated thru pp,and sent to the Anthonys house.I guess we'll find out tommrow when they release the info...

And the cash that they receive? IMO when you have a trust-the money should go DIRECTLY there. Not into Lee's Paypal- the Anthony's home or Publix parking lot. Of course they can account for the money that was deposited. HOW can they prove it is ALL of the money collected?

jmo

[ellvarn]

what you need maybe I have it at hand?

I was looking for a link to all the text messages released without all the other stuff. I am sure it's somewhere, but I am not good at that stuff, so I have to ask for help.
Thanks for asking Ham.

[need2no]

Tony L joined SM a few days ago and replied to questions posed to him. A few questions were about his pal Clint.


:seeya: Swarovski...while you are on board just wanted to say thanks for the links you pop in and provide for us! :patriot:


Hope to see ya on DWTS tomorrow.

[tereserlynn]

Publix is just a plain jane middle class grocery store. The one they are talking about is a few miles from the Range that they talked about earlier...

[jammies]

I was looking for a link to all the text messages released without all the other stuff. I am sure it's somewhere, but I am not good at that stuff, so I have to ask for help.
Thanks for asking Ham.


I sent you a PM with a good link for the text messages.

[bchand]

An upscale grocery store where I live.

Ahh sort of like the Wegmans? Thank you.

So they actually stand outside of this story and accept $$? Unbelievable.

[lonetraveler]

Just checked out the message board that supposedly has TonE answering questions. Appears to be a real love fest for TonE over there. For what it is worth, in my opinion, he has already given all he could in his limited way to LE concerning his relationship with Casey. You have to remember, he was mostly involved in only one aspect with Casey. He probably had to concentrate very hard to even remember Caylee's name. Remember, he was most likely like the twentith in line for Casey.....again for what it is worth!

[msjoni]

I need you to back that statement up with a link please.

She talking about Tony Lazarro talking about Clint (the old roomate)
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3434.0

[AlohaRainbow]

*snip*
However after those first calls, I think Cindy has gone into an extreme cover-up mode and spent much to much precious time doing so. Her credibility seems have been spent as far as most in the position to help her find Caylee are concerned. Like the little boy who cried wolf. It makes it hard to emphasis with her when she continues on the same protect Casey course.

She has acted more like Caseys lawyer, and a bad one at that, than Caylees grandmother who should be wanting to get to the bottom of all these lies. Instead she spins unbelievable tales and excuses always in an attempt to put Casey in the best light.

The way she has acted about test results BEFORE they come back and Tim's search BEFORE it was completed......REALLY makes me question this whole DENIAL EXCUSE that has been put forward. IF she TOTALLY believes in her daughters innocence and that Caylee IS alive, why spend ANYTIME debating over it all if she knows these test and searches will come out negative? Even when her actions backfire she continues to do the same as if she has no other course to follow.
*snip*
i know i brought up the movie "who's afraid of virginia wolfe" many weeks ago...
i see barskin posted an analogy about that movie and this case on the earlier thread today... it's such a great post that i'm bringing it over here :)
In the play, "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" George and Martha are a middle-aged childless couple who have been playing a game for many years of pretending to have a son. But, they had a rule; they could never play out the fantasy in front of anyone else. It was their secret, or the game couldn't work. Over the course of one extremely drunk and combative evening, Martha breaks that rule and tells the couple with whom they have been drinking about their "son."
When Martha goes as far as taking the young husband to bed, George decides to invoke the rule and tell her that they just got a message that their son died, ending the game forever, which causes Martha to break down in agony.

I think the Anthony’s had their little game. Casey was working and had a nanny, and they had a normal, happy household. Now, this game was played out in front of the world, and it frequently broke down into fits of anger and disbelief. But when this situation happened, the rules changed. When Cindy heard that she told the detectives she left Caylee at the nanny's, and then she didn't tell them where her apartment was, Cindy should have said, "but, you stay over at that place all the time. Just tell them where it is." Or she should have demanded that Casey tell her where the apartment in which she "crashed" from time to time was. But, in her heart, she knew this was had always just been a game the family played. There was no "Zanny," there was no apartment. Now she wants to play the "Caylee is alive" game. Do you remember when she said, in the beginning, that they are closer as a family than ever? I think that's because they are all on one page. Anything Casey says goes. She will be named "Mother of the Year" when this is all over. She stayed in jail to "save the life of her daughter." They must preserve the game at all costs, even leaving Caylee's remains to rot, if need be. If they gave up the game, it means facing too much guilt, IMO.

[Albini]

Back to my new imerging theory.

June 16th Casey makes calls trying to get baby sitter to go see Tony L that night.(flury of calls)
No luck with anyone watching Caylee on a week night, she uses chloroform to put caylee to sleep and leaves her in the trunk.
Casey and Tony spend the evening kicking it, watching a movie.
Casey returns to car to find a noresponsive child in trunk.
Casey decides to wait till both parents are at work on the 17th and stage an accidental drowning.
Casey backs car into driveway and takes Caylee out of trunk and into backyard, wrapped in blanket, lays her on the ground, stages the pool ladder.
She may have tried changing her clothes by the pool, so she wouldn't be in outfit that GA last saw her in.
She notices that there is discoloration or pooling of blood and her drowning accident won't work.
Casey borrows shovel from neighbor to bury her in yard, starts to dig a hole, she either hears the dogs and changes her mind because of dogs or just can't dig deep enough hole.
She then returns Caylee to the car to dispose of her in a different location.

Holy Hannah. Wow. That sounds very plausible. I think you may be correct.:(

[lonetraveler]

Tony Lazarro is.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3434.60

----------------------
FGS. This is not the Clint who smooched off of TonE and slept on his couch......do your homework.....................

[bluwaters]

She talking about Tony Lazarro talking about Clint (the old roomate)
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3434.0
I wasn't and it was clear in my post who I was talking about.
Either DG has a link to back that statement, or needs to admit the mistake.
It's what any other credible poster would do.

jmho

[Pag Boi]

No problem. If I find it tonight i'll post if not we can hook up in Pm or whatever and get the info organized and straight somehow.

Justice and Dignity for Caylee :rose:


RR - If it was in that same doc that had the MySpace posts, I have that link somewhere. I might be getting IMs & TM's mixed up but the doc I recall having some was +300 pages If you think it is the same, I'll dig it up for you. If not, that's cool too. Good luck!

[n/t]

i know i brought up the movie "who's afraid of virginia wolfe" many weeks ago...
i see barskin posted an analogy about that movie and this case on the earlier thread today... it's such a great post that i'm bringing it over here :)


Excellent analogy. Thanks for bringing it over. I missed it when barskin posted it.

[marshmallow]

Ahh sort of like the Wegmans? Thank you.

So they actually stand outside of this story and accept $$? Unbelievable.



Wegmans I know!
I worry that monies collected in a settingl ike that are too easily misused or misreported. I'd have thought the people actually in charge of the trust would have explained that to the family.

[hamebone]

I was looking for a link to all the text messages released without all the other stuff. I am sure it's somewhere, but I am not good at that stuff, so I have to ask for help.
Thanks for asking Ham.

I have these
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=A829C5BD0F0E41AE1055E7FC7B847AAF ?contentId=7504665&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=D303CA614D3F86FE72B651E61B3BDA77 ?contentId=7506400&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=1948BF19197773F556AD70962168CF80 ?contentId=7504606&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


do you have her IM's?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608instantmessages/indexGallery.htm

[hamebone]

Some posters unfortunately feel they have the right to attack others for their informed opinions. Frequently, the ones with the self righteous attitude are totally ignorant to the facts of the case.

In this situation, I clearly stated that Clint Van Zandt was Dana Pretzer's guest. An ignorant poster did not comprehend my post and made an ignorant reply. Now that poster has accused me of being off topic.

Clint Van Zandt gave a very interesting interview.
A repeat should be available online soon for those who are interested in actually following the case.
I will post it and/or a transcript of the interview tomorrow. :seeya:


I missed it blu will you send me the transcripts tomorrow...TIA

[jammies]

Some posters unfortunately feel they have the right to attack others for their informed opinions. Frequently, the ones with the self righteous attitude are totally ignorant to the facts of the case.

In this situation, I clearly stated that Clint Van Zandt was Dana Pretzer's guest. An ignorant poster did not comprehend my post and made an ignorant reply. Now that poster has accused me of being off topic.

Clint Van Zandt gave a very interesting interview.
A repeat should be available online soon for those who are interested in actually following the case.
I will post it and/or a transcript of the interview tomorrow. :seeya:



Thankyou, blu. I didn't listen and would appreciate the transcript.
As for the other stuff......consider the source and pay no attention.

[tereserlynn]

Hi guys! I'm new to posting here, but I've been lurking (along w/ some friends) wayyyy back since when Trenton Duckett first came up missing. I went to HS w/ his dad.

My hub gets irritated at me because (like most of you) I get semi-obsessed w/ these missing kids cases & it consumes me! I watched "Gone Baby Gone" last night w/ my husband because he got to me put the message boards down & watch TV & it made me think of this whole deal. Has anyone seen that? The mom was so preoccupied w/ her partying that she left the little girl alone all the time and she came up missing... Kinda OT, but I just thought about all of you & wondered if I was the only one watching it on Showtime & thinking of little Caylee...

[jammies]

Good Night, good people. I am anxious for Monday nights revelation.:seeya:



nite, bf. see you tomorrow!

[bluwaters]

leonard padilla on with dana pretzer now:

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u

[Rayosunshine]

Still waiting for where you got the information that you posted that Mr grund thinks 'Sammy' has Caylee?

Certainly you will back up what you post?

:shrug:

dt, did you read the posts from Anthony L.? Of course it may not have even been him, there is no proof.

[summer4meplz]

===============

I have never seen where Rebel makes herself out to be a hero. She is a caring person that went out to search for lil Caylee.......unlike u. U and U alone will get this board shut down......i think u like doing that.


with all due respect dixie,,,,ya know i luv ya like a sister...it's RESPONDING that gets the board shuts down...imo if everyone would quit quoting her misstatements and outright lies...she might go rumormonger somewhere else....moo

[day2day]

Hi guys! I'm new to posting here, but I've been lurking (along w/ some friends) wayyyy back since when Trenton Duckett first came up missing. I went to HS w/ his dad.

My hub gets irritated at me because (like most of you) I get semi-obsessed w/ these missing kids cases & it consumes me! I watched "Gone Baby Gone" last night w/ my husband because he got to me put the message boards down & watch TV & it made me think of this whole deal. Has anyone seen that? The mom was so preoccupied w/ her partying that she left the little girl alone all the time and she came up missing... Kinda OT, but I just thought about all of you & wondered if I was the only one watching it on Showtime & thinking of little Caylee...


Hi tereserlynn and welcome home!
I didn't get to watch GBG last night-but i have seen it before-you are right it seems Casey was into partying...thats for sure!


Caylee :rose:
Trenton :rose:

[summer4meplz]

with all due respect dixie,,,,ya know i luv ya like a sister...it's RESPONDING that gets the board shuts down...imo if everyone would quit quoting her misstatements and outright lies...she might go rumormonger somewhere else....moo


I am NOT talking about rebel...sorry if it looks like that....

[hamebone]

Hi guys! I'm new to posting here, but I've been lurking (along w/ some friends) wayyyy back since when Trenton Duckett first came up missing. I went to HS w/ his dad.

My hub gets irritated at me because (like most of you) I get semi-obsessed w/ these missing kids cases & it consumes me! I watched "Gone Baby Gone" last night w/ my husband because he got to me put the message boards down & watch TV & it made me think of this whole deal. Has anyone seen that? The mom was so preoccupied w/ her partying that she left the little girl alone all the time and she came up missing... Kinda OT, but I just thought about all of you & wondered if I was the only one watching it on Showtime & thinking of little Caylee...


No, I have seen it talked about on here. I may have to rent it...thanks for reminding me...:seeya:

[ellvarn]

I sent you a PM with a good link for the text messages.
TY and in my reply I should have said that my critters need cared for-so no more IS boards.

Good night all that helped me.

And God Bless Caylee - :rose:

[Rayosunshine]

:lol: Very cute.
Who is Clint, DG?


I read it too. Clint is, Tony's roommate, last name House.

[dtviewer]

dt, did you read the posts from Anthony L.? Of course it may not have even been him, there is no proof.


No I didnt...and I also didnt when Rick was on Topix.
I just dont buy it.....I would need some proof it was really either of them before going with what they say.

(Does that have to do with the 'Sammy' stuff?)

[Rayosunshine]

lol don't hold your breath:lol:

If you really knew who Sammy was, you wouldn't be laughting so hard.

[Pag Boi]

Publix is just a plain jane middle class grocery store. The one they are talking about is a few miles from the Range that they talked about earlier...

TY. I thought I had gotten a too much 'tude when I read Publix was considered "upscale" Plain Jane is a great description for it JMOO

[hamebone]

If you really knew who Sammy was, you wouldn't be laughting so hard.

who is sammy?

[need2no]

leonard padilla on with dana pretzer now:

http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/radio.m3u


Thanks...I'll run grab my bottle of Tums. :D


Can't wait to hear his new theory....but then I suppose he will be on NG again tomorrow night.

[ellvarn]

I have these
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=A829C5BD0F0E41AE1055E7FC7B847AAF ?contentId=7504665&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=D303CA614D3F86FE72B651E61B3BDA77 ?contentId=7506400&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=1948BF19197773F556AD70962168CF80 ?contentId=7504606&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1


do you have her IM's?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608instantmessages/indexGallery.htm

Wow thank you Ham and I will bookmark these and get to them in the morning. You did good work and O/T but this is a good B-day gift for me.

Good Night all :seeya:

God Bless Caylee - :rose:

[day2day]

If you really knew who Sammy was, you wouldn't be laughting so hard.

Sammy-Mr. Grund's puppy?
Sammy-the nanny's sister?

i am so confused?!

[dtviewer]

If you really knew who Sammy was, you wouldn't be laughting so hard.


Why, is there some super secret evidence as to who 'Sammy' is that you are privy to?

[Pag Boi]

I read it too. Clint is, Tony's roommate, last name House.

Did you read the posts? Cuz the poster alleging to be Tony is adamant that they were never "roommates".

[marshmallow]

If you really knew who Sammy was, you wouldn't be laughting so hard.

I'd like to know, who is Sammy?
this is all very confusing.

[?noanswer]

Geraldo on, supposed to have something about Caylee. Talking about bailout now. Caylee will probably be the last segment. JMO

[hamebone]

Wow thank you Ham and I will bookmark these and get to them in the morning. You did good work and O/T but this is a good B-day gift for me.

Good Night all :seeya:

God Bless Caylee - :rose:


You are welcomed..HAPPY BDAY!

[Rayosunshine]

I'm lost here..I am a member of SM and I don't see anyone talking about a Clint:confused:

you must have missed it last night.

[day2day]

Geraldo is going to have the body farm on his show-it is on now-talking about the vote tomorrow!

[?noanswer]

Question ...

Does anyone have any theories why we got Cindy's videotaped interview with LE vs. an audio like George's, or just a transcript?

The only reason I can think of is that without the video of Cindy, it would not have been nearly as dramatic. A picture is worth a thousand words!! JMO

[Rayosunshine]

This is a first. For once we are on the same page. Klassend would never allow an imposter to post on SM's board , I'm positive Klass checked out the credentials thoroughly.

Oh, but the majority here would not believe you. I believe you, I'm just saying.

[msjoni]

I wasn't and it was clear in my post who I was talking about.
Either DG has a link to back that statement, or needs to admit the mistake.
It's what any other credible poster would do.

jmho

Sorry, I misunderstood you....:(

[mosey2]

I'm lost here..I am a member of SM and I don't see anyone talking about a Clint:confused:
Hmmm why isn't that surprising?:D

[FrankieBones1]

Sorry that's not the same Clint. Clint was a twenty something year old kid who crashed on Tony's couch for a few weeks. Clint VD has been a highly sought guest speaker on various cases in the news.

That member is fully aware of that but is twisting stuff in order to get everyone riled up and the board shut down.

On Geraldo tonight....News back from the body farm....coming up soon.

[need2no]

The only reason I can think of is that without the video of Cindy, it would not have been nearly as dramatic. A picture is worth a thousand words!! JMO

Maybe it's like in a doctor's office...never want to have 2 men in a room with 1 female. They were probably scared of what she might accuse them of doing to her. I was confused about why they had the video, and a digital tape recorder.

[Ckrdpast]

:seeya:ya'll im just catching up reading pages

[bluwaters]

Sorry, I misunderstood you....:(
It's OK :)
You were trying to help.
Thank you for that!

[mosey2]

Question ...

Does anyone have any theories why we got Cindy's videotaped interview with LE vs. an audio like George's, or just a transcript?I dont know that one, but do you know why Cindy's interview wasn't shown to the end? What are we not priviledged to see?:shrug:

[dtviewer]

Oh, but the majority here would not believe you. I believe you, I'm just saying.

You just asked me on the last page:

"dt, did you read the posts from Anthony L.? Of course it may not have even been him, there is no proof."

So do YOU believe it is TonE on SM?

[5boxersmom]

Has there been any news on the vigil? Was there protestors?

[day2day]

I so AGREE Pru........
I had to edit,

Hey at least maybe one solved MYSTERY today.......WHERE THE NAME SAM.....SAMMY.....SAMATHA CAME FROM........

In Caseys sick version of events concerning her beloved daughter she has spoken some resemblance of the truth while lying. When she used the name above as to say who Caylee is with she is referring the Grunds deceased beloved family dog. Don`t most parents tell their kids these pets have gone to heaven? I must of heard it more times than I can count. I could just hear the Grunds saying that Sammy is now in heaven. 2 + 2 = 4. The way I am seeing it:

SHE IS TELLING US CAYLEE IS WITH THAT BELOVED DOG IN HEAVEN!!

...They say there is some truth in every lie. You are probly right :(...

Caylee...:rose:

[spiritwolf46]

:seeya:ya'll im just catching up reading pages

Me too, Ckrdpast! :seeya: How ya doin tonight, sweetie?

Have I missed much today? I am trying to catch up, but if anyone has anything that was REAL important that I may have missed today, I would sure appreciate it!

[?noanswer]

Do you think maybe LE did it to protect themselves in the event Cindy tried to spin to media or the public what happened during the interview?

Maybe. I don't know how she can spin it (its all in living color), but if there is a way, she'll find it. JMO

[Pag Boi]

This is a first. For once we are on the same page. Klassend would never allow an imposter to post on SM's board , I'm positive Klass checked out the credentials thoroughly.


You are positive but I am not. No matter what board, I just take admin 'verifications' the same way I accept the declarations of any poster with alleged inside info.

I do enjoy reading all the dirt anonymous posters allege to be truthful. But is it based upon reality? Then I will accept it.

O/T: Is Klass the same person as Red? TIA

[mosey2]

I so AGREE Pru........
I had to edit,

Hey at least maybe one solved MYSTERY today.......WHERE THE NAME SAM.....SAMMY.....SAMATHA CAME FROM........

In Caseys sick version of events concerning her beloved daughter she has spoken some resemblance of the truth while lying. When she used the name above as to say who Caylee is with she is referring the Grunds deceased beloved family dog. Don`t most parents tell their kids these pets have gone to heaven? I must of heard it more times than I can count. I could just hear the Grunds saying that Sammy is now in heaven. 2 + 2 = 4. The way I am seeing it:

SHE IS TELLING US CAYLEE IS WITH THAT BELOVED DOG IN HEAVEN!!\Tree, I dont know if I've told you this before, but I love the livin' heck out of your posts
What you are talking about is Casey-speak. Ive been trying to decipher and interpret myself. I'll keep you posted if you keep me.

[summer4meplz]

Anyone know anything about Monday nights revelation? Whats it supposed to be about? TIA

Mr. Grund sr. wrote on his my space page to stay tuned...Monday night the truth will be revealed or something like that....he's supposedly going to be on ng.....iirc...and that was from this morning, so ya never know...

[mitzi]

You are positive but I am not. No matter what board, I just take admin 'verifications' the same way I accept the declarations of any poster with alleged inside info.

I do enjoy reading all the dirt anonymous posters allege to be truthful. But is it based upon reality? Then I will accept it.

O/T: Is Klass the same person as Red? TIA

No, Klass and Red are not the same person.

[mosey2]

Anyone know anything about Monday nights revelation? Whats it supposed to be about? TIA
I dont know what it is but I think it will come from the Grund camp. Remember ,was it Lee, saying Casey told the Anthonys not to trust Jesse Grund? Must be sumpin' juicy!

[bchand]

Has there been any news on the vigil? Was there protestors?

I just checked alot of the online local papers. Nothing there about the vigil.

[LynnD]

And the cash that they receive? IMO when you have a trust-the money should go DIRECTLY there. Not into Lee's Paypal- the Anthony's home or Publix parking lot. Of course they can account for the money that was deposited. HOW can they prove it is ALL of the money collected?

jmo


I agree!!They cant!What im saying is now we KNOW that donations were being made to lees pp,and shirts were being sold.So tommrow i would expect to see a detailed summary how much was donated in checks,how much was cash sent to the home,how much came from lees pp,and how much they have made from selling shirts.If theres no mention of the shirt money and lees pp money,then i will know somethings not right.

[?noanswer]

Maybe it's like in a doctor's office...never want to have 2 men in a room with 1 female. They were probably scared of what she might accuse them of doing to her. I was confused about why they had the video, and a digital tape recorder.

Could be. Boy I bet Casey would have had a ball, having all the attention of 2 males. The digital taping was probably for the transcriber. JMO

[Joan Weiss]

She (DG) posted a link to another message board where someone claiming to be TonE is answering questions.............for what its worth.I don't believe that. Tony has not been talking at all. imo

[hamebone]

Oh, but the majority here would not believe you. I believe you, I'm just saying.

How do you no what the majority here think? I read it I thinks it is him.

Why did you post about "if we knew who the real sammy was wouldnt be laughing"....I asked who is sammy?...why bring it up at all, if its a big secret?...Ive been out of grade school for many moons...and that is just what it feels like ...a very juvenile attitude going on here...IMO

good grief...

[bchand]

Great to see ya. I'm looking for a link and going through PMs and this case is going to drive us all batty before it's over with, :seeya:

What link are you looking for RR?

My bookmarks on this case have far exceeded my Neil Entwistle ones.

[bchand]

I don't believe that. Tony has not been talking at all. imo

I believe it's him.

[dtviewer]

I don't believe that. Tony has not been talking at all. imo


I'm with you.......

[Pag Boi]

Just checked out the message board that supposedly has TonE answering questions. Appears to be a real love fest for TonE over there. For what it is worth, in my opinion, he has already given all he could in his limited way to LE concerning his relationship with Casey. You have to remember, he was mostly involved in only one aspect with Casey. He probably had to concentrate very hard to even remember Caylee's name. Remember, he was most likely like the twentith in line for Casey.....again for what it is worth!

20? Aren't you missing a few zeroes?

ITA with your post tho

[Ckrdpast]

*smoochies House*

spirit how is the chia pet?? lol

i actually think there is no news coz its gonna come fast and furious in the next couple days----Yuri may be injured but hes not down for the count...

he's so subtle----watch cindys interview again he says so much without saying much----im sure they have the goods on these people read my new siggy says it all

[dtviewer]

Evidently Greta bought what Rick disclosed, she based one of her programs on his info No doubt she verified it before airing it.

Yes, and thats when I believed it. Before that I had no proof...so I didnt really follow what he said.

[?noanswer]

I don't believe that. Tony has not been talking at all. imo

There was someone on there that answered ? with the nic of TonyL. Don't know if he was real or an imposter. JMO

[bluwaters]

Has there been any news on the vigil? Was there protestors?
Funny you should ask. I was just searching for news on the vigil, and, no, I can't find any, :shrug:

[need2no]

Could be. Boy I bet Casey would have had a ball, having all the attention of 2 males. The digital taping was probably for the transcriber. JMO


Especially if they held her hands. :biggrin:


Ah yes, for transcription, DUH, I didn't think of that, thanks.

[need2no]

I have the same link nd I don't know for fact it's the REAL Tony. If it is then we will all know soon enough IMO. I read his replies and thats about all i can say on that.

IF it's him he seems nice on those boards.

I noticed he didn't respond to the question about whether Casey sent him the message about if they don't find Caylee.........

[Joan Weiss]

Yep-that would be my guess. IMO the money for those shirts was donated -why sell them? Makes little sense to me. But then again-i'm not an Anthony-THANK GOD...

jmoIt's fairly common to sell donated t-shirts to raise money for a cause. imo

[Ckrdpast]

sharkie---we need to talk ---- about georges involment its becoming really clear to me now---do you run any IM programs?

[day2day]

I agree!!They cant!What im saying is now we KNOW that donations were being made to lees pp,and shirts were being sold.So tommrow i would expect to see a detailed summary how much was donated in checks,how much was cash sent to the home,how much came from lees pp,and how much they have made from selling shirts.If theres no mention of the shirt money and lees pp money,then i will know somethings not right.

I'm just not convinced we will ever know exactly how much was donated. If i set up a booth at Publix and collected $500.00 in cash- I could easily turn in $300.00 and pocket the $200.00 -noone would ever be the wiser. Sorta like Cindy did with the $200.00 in Casey's wallet!
I also hope to see the list of gift cards -
It will be so interesting to see how they spent the money..:)

jmo of course. :seeya: