Friday - Sep. 26th - aft/evening/night

[jammies]

Well how did she get Cindys car? Didnt Cindy say she didnt know anything about it?

GA did say in his interview he had suspected she didnt have a job...I wish they had called her out on some of this stuff....maybe Caylee would still be here..


The detective says something about he didn't know he wasn't supposed to ask Cindy that question as the FBI wanted that kept under wraps.......or something to that affect.

[summer4meplz]

Nowhere that I know of.


now i'm gonna have to find it....jiminy christmas...where to begin...i can't even remember if i saw it or read it....does anyone else remember this tidbit of news? i'll think on it barskin...:)

[hamebone]

Im still listening but what I heard:

I said to "my wife'.....

he saw her leave in his wife's truck on the 408..........date unknown

he chased her....

George told the FBI about it, but didnt tell Cindy he told them
LE says Cindy completely denied it.

thats my interpretation as what LE said to him.


best regards,
Pru

Yep, thats the way I heard it.

[panokatana]

If I could wish for a scenario...I would wish that...Great Grandpa...on that last day...took a good look at the people around Caylee as she sat in his lap... emptied his OWN assisted living fund, chloroformed Casey and smuggled Caylee out of that environment...and put her with a loving and normal family...no being dropped off with strangers, sleeping in beds with people she doesn't love, learning values, having someone brush her beautiful hair before she goes to sleep at a time when little girls should be going to sleep....where she is getting ready for school now, reading books and forgetting about her gene pool.

I know...it's ugly for saying it out loud...but it sure seems better than any most likely alternative.

JMO

[Rebel Rouzer]

Im still listening but what I heard:

I said to "my wife'.....or 'myself' (toss up...lol)

he saw her leave in his wife's truck on the 408..........date unknown

he chased her....

George told the FBI about it, but didnt tell Cindy he told them
LE says Cindy completely denied it.

thats my interpretation as what LE said to him.


best regards,
PruI'm trying to understand why Cindy would deny knowing anything about that and claim after Casey stole the Gas cans she would never let her borrow the car. Ok so she didn't let ehr borrow the car but GA told her about the incident and she denies any knowledge?

WHY?

[cloe23]

Stupid Girl by PINK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTzY-o-Y4y8

I hope this works. As I am new at this.

TYVM for that link! I have been wanting to see it. I plan to sit my DH down and make him watch it. Very O/T but very appropriate IMO.

[Pruddennce]

I'm trying to understand why Cindy would deny knowing anything about that and claim after Casey stole the Gas cans she would never let her borrow the car. Ok so she didn't let ehr borrow the car but GA told her about the incident and she denies any knowledge?

WHY?

yes, why....anything that is BAD is to be held back?

but here is what is interesting in the web o lies:

George claims he called Cindy and told her about the left...

Cindy's first reaction is to deny it on national tv: nothing was stolen on the 24th.

and

when Casey showed up that same day, he claims that Casey said:
Mom called me and told me about the theft.

now is that the second part of the lie...its getting built on? George claiming Casey was in contact with Cindy?


best regards,
Pru

[jammies]

George is having a really hard time with the smell in the car. :(


Yes....because from the conversation they ALL are aware of what the smell came from.

[jammies]

I THINK george said he was by himself...


Yes he was. CIndy told him NOT to follow her.

[hamebone]

I'm trying to understand why Cindy would deny knowing anything about that and claim after Casey stole the Gas cans she would never let her borrow the car. Ok so she didn't let ehr borrow the car but GA told her about the incident and she denies any knowledge?

WHY?

She said in a interview with Greta she had not seen Casey in a month.

How did she get the Car....why did GA chase her. Where was her car?


:shrug:

I just wonder if it was Tone's car GA saw her in leaving the house..

[Gowanda1]

That makes two of us. I thought GA chased Casey by himself and Cindy said she knew nothing about it during the interview. Mind boggeling for sure. Tomorrows another day, oh wait it is tomorrow. J/K

I'm a page or two behind so I apologize if someone else addressed this already. But it was my impression while listening to the tape, that the officer apologized to George for mentioning the whole incident to Cindy in the interview. I thought he was basically saying that George had asked the officers not to let Cindy know he'd chased Casey and that Casey had borrowed the car, and the officer blew it by mentioning it anyway. JMO

[need2no]

Stupid Girl by PINK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTzY-o-Y4y8

I hope this works. As I am new at this.


Thanks for the link...loved it!

[Rebel Rouzer]

yes, why....anything that is BAD is to be held back?

but here is what is interesting in the web o lies:

George claims he called Cindy and told her about the left...

Cindy's first reaction is to deny it on national tv: nothing was stolen on the 24th.

and

when Casey showed up that same day, he claims that Casey said:
Mom called me and told me about the theft.

now is that the second part of the lie...its getting built on? George claiming Casey was in contact with Cindy?


best regards,
Pru

Interesting. :read: I have to go over all of this again and get this all worked out in my head. There is something that doesn't sit right and Cindy and George.

[jammies]

Confused here too...they didnt go into great detail. I guess it is something GA told the FBI and the Local LE brought it up with Cindy ...who didnt know GA told FBI....or something like that....If Cindy loaned her the car why is GA chasing her?


:confused::confused::confused:


To see where she was going. He says something about being fed up with her.....so this MUST have been during the time she was supposedly "missing". Still not clear on that.....the timeframe.

[Rebel Rouzer]

She said in a interview with Greta she had not seen Casey in a month.

How did she get the Car....why did GA chase her. Where was her car?


:shrug:

I just wonder if it was Tone's car GA saw her in leaving the house..


Listening again now to get this straight.

[msjoni]

GA's interview:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedfile...nthoneyOne.WMA

I can't get the link to work when I copy it, but it does work on post#24 on this thread.

You're right, it only works on post 24...that's odd...:shrug:

[hamebone]

I'm a page or two behind so I apologize if someone else addressed this already. But it was my impression while listening to the tape, that the officer apologized to George for mentioning the whole incident to Cindy in the interview. I thought he was basically saying that George had asked the officers not to let Cindy know he'd chased Casey and that Casey had borrowed the car, and the officer blew it by mentioning it anyway. JMO

I think Cindy didnt know GA told the FBI....but she would know if Casey had her car...wouldnt she?

[panokatana]

Is Casey still spending her days at Baez' office? I don't hear much regarding her comings and goings these days.

JMO

[jammies]

I'm trying to understand why Cindy would deny knowing anything about that and claim after Casey stole the Gas cans she would never let her borrow the car. Ok so she didn't let ehr borrow the car but GA told her about the incident and she denies any knowledge?

WHY?


It's almost like GA and CA discuss what info they will give and what NOT to give. That incident must not have been discussed between them so she just denies??

Seriously, I have no idea!!

I found the gas can story interesting....the story he tells LE is so different from the Greta one. THAT was why Cindy was squeezing his leg..........

[hamebone]

To see where she was going. He says something about being fed up with her.....so this MUST have been during the time she was supposedly "missing". Still not clear on that.....the timeframe.

How is she missing if she has Cindy car?

Wouldnt Cindy know Casey has her car?

[need2no]

yes, why....anything that is BAD is to be held back?

but here is what is interesting in the web o lies:

George claims he called Cindy and told her about the left...

Cindy's first reaction is to deny it on national tv: nothing was stolen on the 24th.

and

when Casey showed up that same day, he claims that Casey said:
Mom called me and told me about the theft.

now is that the second part of the lie...its getting built on? George claiming Casey was in contact with Cindy?


best regards,
Pru

And it may seem petty but in regard to the date this is what George said in the Greta interview:

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you made the report on June 24, though. That’s when you noticed it. Do you remember when you last were in there, so you have some sort of window of when that could have happened?

GEORGE ANTHONY: It could have been Sunday. I believe I was in there Sunday. I don’t believe I was in there the day before that, like, on the 23rd. I’m almost positive it’s a Sunday.

VAN SUSTEREN: So the Sunday the 23rd, you might have been in there?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, Sunday would have been the 22nd.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So as best you can tell, it happened between the 22nd and the 24th. someone broke in there.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Uh-huh.

But in this interview with LE George stated matter of factly he discovered the shed had been broken in on the 23rd.

[Pruddennce]

She said in a interview with Greta she had not seen Casey in a month.

How did she get the Car....why did GA chase her. Where was her car?


:shrug:

I just wonder if it was Tone's car GA saw her in leaving the house..

well, he specifically said 'my wife's car'.....

dunno....I feel a web....

esp when he said 'my wife sent me back to work' after he picked the car up...claiming he was LIVID...

and claims Cindy said she would handle everything...

THAT SMELL...and he leaves and allows her to dump out the car?

but im not done listening to his story' yet....the audio....

everything is not as it seems....the lies are piled up so high, its hard to discern what is truth....

esp when Cindy keeps talking and talking about 'what casey said'......what do these people know first-hand? they are both shady on dates about themselves, but not about 'what casey told them'.



best regards,
Pru

[jammies]

How is she missing if she has Cindy car?

Wouldnt Cindy know Casey has her car?



Apparently, she DID know because she told GA NOT to chase her.

Sounds like they saw her a number of times in the June-July timeframe, doesn't it?

[cloe23]

But you could not use an oil/gas mixture in an auto. That's just for, I think is for twin engines?


Correct so LE would have no interest in it? I do not know, just speculation.
BTW you can use the gas oil mixture in your car just not good for it. There is very little oil mixed in with the gas, it can still run a car and burn a fire. IMO

[hamebone]

And it may seem petty but in regard to the date this is what George said in the Greta interview:

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you made the report on June 24, though. That’s when you noticed it. Do you remember when you last were in there, so you have some sort of window of when that could have happened?

GEORGE ANTHONY: It could have been Sunday. I believe I was in there Sunday. I don’t believe I was in there the day before that, like, on the 23rd. I’m almost positive it’s a Sunday.

VAN SUSTEREN: So the Sunday the 23rd, you might have been in there?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, Sunday would have been the 22nd.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So as best you can tell, it happened between the 22nd and the 24th. someone broke in there.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Uh-huh.

But in this interview with LE George stated matter of factly he discovered the shed had been broken in on the 23rd.

I thought he told LE in that interview it was the 24th he noticed it and called LE and Casey showed up later that same day.

[hamebone]

Apparently, she DID know because she told GA NOT to chase her.

Sounds like they saw her a number of times in the June-July timeframe, doesn't it?

Yes it does...I missed the part Cindy told him not to chase her....was that in GA interview?

[jammies]

I thought he told LE in that interview it was the 24th he noticed it and called LE and Casey showed up later that same day.


me too :chicken:


(we need transcripts)

[lonetraveler]

I thought George came across well spoken in his interview. I'm very confused about the day he saw Casey in Cindys car??? Could it be he saw her in Tone's Jeep?

----------------
I'm sure that George being a car dealer he knows each vehicle by sight. My husband dealt in cars for many years, I believe he could have told you what car drove by just by the sound and I absolutely know that he could have told you the model and year when seeing one from a distance.

[need2no]

Casey Anthony was also apparently trying to keep her father away from the car where the cans were left in the trunk.
"She didn't want him to know the gas cans were there. She thought she could put them back and leave him a note of apology," Cindy Anthony said.

George Anthony later discovered the missing cans.
"He saw the cans there. There was no Caylee in the back of the car. There was nothing else in the back of the car except normal stuff," Cindy Anthony said.
Cindy Anthony said her daughter is a victim just like Caylee, and she said she has tried to talk to investigators about the case.
"Casey has spoken; she has spoken. They don't want to listen, and I can't go into more of that because, again, that is part of the investigation," Cindy Anthony said.
Cindy Anthony said the gas cans were taken because there were other fingerprints from someone besides Casey Anthony and members of her family, and that's what investigators were looking for. :rolleyes:

http://www.wesh.com/news/17110360/detail.html

[Rebel Rouzer]

It's almost like GA and CA discuss what info they will give and what NOT to give. That incident must not have been discussed between them so she just denies??

Seriously, I have no idea!!

I found the gas can story interesting....the story he tells LE is so different from the Greta one. THAT was why Cindy was squeezing his leg..........

GREAT points but why is she SO afraid of those dates and what is said? It's interesting

[jammies]

Yes it does...I missed the part Cindy told him not to chase her....was that in GA interview?


yes it is.


We need Little Bitty to transcribe these interviews for us!!

[aubrey04]

I think George sounds more truthful in his interview than Casey, Lee and Cindy.. Just my opinion.

[Joan Weiss]

BUMMER I can not seem to zoom in........I have been wondering what she would have to say.......Hold down control and click the plus (+) in the numerical section on the right. Click it until you are happy with the size. To decrease, hold control down and click the minus key (-) until it's back to the beginning.

[jammies]

GREAT points but why is she SO afraid of those dates and what is said? It's interesting



She doesn't EVER want anything negative out there about Casey. When GA is alone with LE he tells the TRUE stories. When Cindy is around he makes them into fairy tales for Cindy's behalf, IMO.

[barskin&co.]

Most men who visit those services are married..;)

Actually, kitty, that's not true. Men use those services so they can have sex without any complications.

[hamebone]

Casey Anthony was also apparently trying to keep her father away from the car where the cans were left in the trunk.
"She didn't want him to know the gas cans were there. She thought she could put them back and leave him a note of apology," Cindy Anthony said.

George Anthony later discovered the missing cans.
"He saw the cans there. There was no Caylee in the back of the car. There was nothing else in the back of the car except normal stuff," Cindy Anthony said.
Cindy Anthony said her daughter is a victim just like Caylee, and she said she has tried to talk to investigators about the case.
"Casey has spoken; she has spoken. They don't want to listen, and I can't go into more of that because, again, that is part of the investigation," Cindy Anthony said.
Cindy Anthony said the gas cans were taken because there were other fingerprints from someone besides Casey Anthony and members of her family, and that's what investigators were looking for. :rolleyes:

http://www.wesh.com/news/17110360/detail.html

Something is wrong with that woman...maybe she is a habitual Liar also..

[need2no]

I thought he told LE in that interview it was the 24th he noticed it and called LE and Casey showed up later that same day.


I took notes LOL, and I wrote down the 23rd as the date he went to the shed and discovered someone had broken into it and took his gas cans...leaving the lock on the floor of the shed. The 24th was the day Casey dropped by the house without Caylee to pick up some clothes and had the gas cans in the trunk.

Guess I'll have to listen again, but not sure I can handle it tonight.

[Joan Weiss]

I can't help thinking this stuff was released to the media to cause the Anthony wagons to break up their circle. They should all be very angry with each other. imo

[need2no]

Something is wrong with that woman...maybe she is a habitual Liar also..


I do believe she is the teacher. Like mother, like daughter.

[barskin&co.]

I think George sounds more truthful in his interview than Casey, Lee and Cindy.. Just my opinion.

Yeah, I think that's what most people seem to believe.

[Pruddennce]

And it may seem petty but in regard to the date this is what George said in the Greta interview:

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you made the report on June 24, though. That’s when you noticed it. Do you remember when you last were in there, so you have some sort of window of when that could have happened?

GEORGE ANTHONY: It could have been Sunday. I believe I was in there Sunday. I don’t believe I was in there the day before that, like, on the 23rd. I’m almost positive it’s a Sunday.

VAN SUSTEREN: So the Sunday the 23rd, you might have been in there?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, Sunday would have been the 22nd.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So as best you can tell, it happened between the 22nd and the 24th. someone broke in there.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Uh-huh.

But in this interview with LE George stated matter of factly he discovered the shed had been broken in on the 23rd.

not petty at all....the dates and days are all fuzzy.....but not when it comes to reiterating what 'casey told them'.....Cindy's exhaustive interview complete wtih every single detail told to her...

its astonishing...it really is...

Im changing my puter-chair analysis of her.....my decision isnt in yet, though :cool:

best regards,
Pru

[Joan Weiss]

Something is wrong with that woman...maybe she is a habitual Liar also..Maybe? :eek:

[cloe23]

I'm going to bed, but I want to know what you all see and hear, when you look back on this video.
Gone Baby Gone or Real Deal....I see avoidance and a request for money, a demand to make this Search for a Missing Child continue,
:shrug:

Maybe this case will turn out to be a Mun, by Proxy there are shades of something here...

Just cant pin point it. Xanax or Tranqs are antoher. I clearly see she is on something.
"i drink water all the time" well YEAH< with that cotton mouth you'd have to!!!
hammer


IMHO she is addicted to pain medication not benzo's.

[Elle]

I think Caylee looks a lot like the guy who is holding her on the Anthony's screened porch...never have found out the identity of this nice looking guy.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71666&page=5

post 125



http://www.angelsforstacy.hqforums.com/whos-who-in-the-caylee-anthony-case-vt172.html

scroll down to Rusciano.

My eyes are really bad. Are they the same person?
Is the top pic the one you were talking about?

[bhardy1956]

Yes, i believed george..and i feel bad for him, but stangely I dont feel bad for cindy. I dont really think any of the family disposed of the body but they are involved in some sort of cover up for her.

After listening to George, there is one thing that is no doubt in my mind is...sounds like he was getting pretty frustrated with his daughter, Casey about how she was acting!!! Listening to him, gives me a feeling that he is trying to get to the bottom of the whole mess. After this interview, I just don't know???

[hamebone]

I took notes LOL, and I wrote down the 23rd as the date he went to the shed and discovered someone had broken into it and took his gas cans...leaving the lock on the floor of the shed. The 24th was the day Casey dropped by the house without Caylee to pick up some clothes and had the gas cans in the trunk.

Guess I'll have to listen again, but not sure I can handle it tonight.

:seeya:


It all so confusing and sad they would muddy the waters when the baby is missing....

[hamebone]

not petty at all....the dates and days are all fuzzy.....but not when it comes to reiterating what 'casey told them'.....Cindy's exhaustive interview complete wtih every single detail told to her...

its astonishing...it really is...

Im changing my puter-chair analysis of her.....my decision isnt in yet, though :cool:

best regards,
Pru


When you get that analysis done send me a copy...:read:

[Pruddennce]

After listening to George, there is one thing that is no doubt in my mind is...sounds like he was getting pretty frustrated with his daughter, Casey about how she was acting!!! Listening to him, gives me a feeling that he is trying to get to the bottom of the whole mess. After this interview, I just don't know???

what IS significant is this:

HE KNEW THE EMAILS WERE BOGUS. He went into detail about it.

He SUSPECTED she didnt have a job.

now the interesting part:

Lee references the emails as if they are EVIDENCE, *see she had a job!*......doing a HAPPY DANCE with his 'new evidence'......and George is sitting here saying I KNOW THEY WERE BOGUS (paraprasing, but he knew they were made up).

seems like they are all existing independent of one another....they have each fallen down their own rabbit hole.

best regards,
Pru

[hamebone]

Found this by KAKAK on links page....
* Detectives interviewed Matthew Crisp, a friend of Anthony's said he spoke to her at a Subway on Goldenrod Road and University Boulevard on July 7. Crisp said he asked "How's the munchkin?" Anthony explained to Crisp that Caylee was good and on a playdate in Sanford. He also noted that he remembered her driving a dark-colored SUV.

Is that what Cindy drives ...a SUV?

[need2no]

not petty at all....the dates and days are all fuzzy.....but not when it comes to reiterating what 'casey told them'.....Cindy's exhaustive interview complete wtih every single detail told to her...

its astonishing...it really is...

Im changing my puter-chair analysis of her.....my decision isnt in yet, though :cool:

best regards,
Pru


Well by all means do let us know when you get your puter-chair analysis firmed up. :D

I think they, (G, & L and even C to a degree), are just a bit too helpful, and they are not fooling LE.

Their interviews sound rehearsed, contrived, robotic. Chit chat, toss in a little personal chatter, laugh, agree with the cops. Who would guess they were talking about the loss of their precious granddaughter, and the likely murderer of the child, their own daughter. Are they all on drugs? My God I could never get through some of those guestions without breaking down, choking on my words. Watching this family in action is mind boggling to say the least.

[Pruddennce]

Found this by KAKAK on links page....
* Detectives interviewed Matthew Crisp, a friend of Anthony's said he spoke to her at a Subway on Goldenrod Road and University Boulevard on July 7. Crisp said he asked "How's the munchkin?" Anthony explained to Crisp that Caylee was good and on a playdate in Sanford. He also noted that he remembered her driving a dark-colored SUV.

thanks...I wonder if the auto description by Crisp is in the trillion pages of documents?

I dont recall that. might be a media release?

best regards,
Pru

[hamebone]

what IS significant is this:

HE KNEW THE EMAILS WERE BOGUS. He went into detail about it.

He SUSPECTED she didnt have a job.

now the interesting part:

Lee references the emails as if they are EVIDENCE, *see she had a job!*......doing a HAPPY DANCE with his 'new evidence'......and George is sitting here saying I KNOW THEY WERE BOGUS (paraprasing, but he knew they were made up).

seems like they are all existing independent of one another....they have each fallen down their own rabbit hole.

best regards,
Pru

OMG Pru, I was thinking just the same thoughts...like they live on different planets from each other...you know what they say>>>Great minds...;)

[need2no]

Is that what Cindy drives ...a SUV?

Yes, she does.

[KathR]

Has anyone posted a timeline? When did Casey make the computer searches about chloroform?

Tonight on NG someone mentioned that chloroform is used as an aid for sexual satisfaction by some. I never heard of that before but that would turn out to be a defense used by Casey.

I was wondering if the searches were done before the baby died (which I'm sure did happen) that Casey had researched them in order to use it as a sedative on the baby to keep her sleeping in the car while she herself partied.

Perhaps she bought some and used it for this purpose and the child died in the car.

Casey then drove around with the baby in a plastic bag while she had nightmares and tried and discarded various ways to get rid of the body.


Put body in bag in play house.

Buried it using the borrowed shovel.

Realized dogs could dig it up or point it out so she retrieved it.

Put it back in car.

Rode around again until the smell became unbearable.

Put body in dumpster (the one for the recyclables perhaps).

Abandoned car.


Does that fit the timeline?

[hamebone]

Yes. It was in the interview.

THANKS...:seeya:

I have read so much... listened....I should take it slowly...in small amounts....

[need2no]

OMG Pru, I was thinking just the same thoughts...like they live on different planets from each other...you know what they say>>>Great minds...;)



Well bless Cindy's heart she covered that in her interview as she rubbed her neck and said they had just been so busy, in the beginning they all got together and went through everything, but now with all the calls of sightings of Caylee and everything....and now they just seem to pass each other and don't have time to talk. (paraphrased)

[aubrey04]

what IS significant is this:

HE KNEW THE EMAILS WERE BOGUS. He went into detail about it.

He SUSPECTED she didnt have a job.

now the interesting part:

Lee references the emails as if they are EVIDENCE, *see she had a job!*......doing a HAPPY DANCE with his 'new evidence'......and George is sitting here saying I KNOW THEY WERE BOGUS (paraprasing, but he knew they were made up).

seems like they are all existing independent of one another....they have each fallen down their own rabbit hole.

best regards,
Pru


Yup.. and George even stated that Casey must have been emailing herself between two computers and/or accounts.. That was one of the "bombshells" in his police interview.

[barskin&co.]

W o W that's an interesting thought. I'd not thought of that; but it's something. It's very interesting to go back in cases and start over, and look at what was said. The greta intv haunts me; the gas cans and the pool info. Now this bit of this accident, I believe there may be shades to what casey was saying regarding those injuries. Clearly, she was around someone where something happened. She even said it herself "it happened"

Well what happened Casey? Just walz yourself right down to LE turn yourself in; and be the woman you should be. There will never be a way out of these lies. I would; if I were her. AND, I'd do it WITHOUT counsel present. To PROVE that I was going to tell; simply.
The Truth.

Casey Anthony has some growing up to do; if she panicked and there was an accident, even if it was with one of her family members, she needs to come forward, for Caylee. It's the one thing left that she can ever do for her child. The one thing left. Tell the truth.

You keep talking like she can just "come to her senses." Casey is not mentally ill, she is anti-social. She is a sociopath. She will never turn herself in. She will say nothing and be prosecuted for some degree of homicide. She will go to prison, as she deserves.

[Joan Weiss]

GREAT points but why is she SO afraid of those dates and what is said? It's interestingLiars lie about everything. Even the most innocuous things. To them, the lie is always much better than the truth. Like rearranging the furniture. imo

[hamebone]

Well bless Cindy's heart she covered that in her interview as she rubbed her neck and said they had just been so busy, in the beginning they all got together and went through everything, but now with all the calls of sightings of Caylee and everything....and now they just seem to pass each other and don't have time to talk. (paraphrased)

I agree, she is an odd egg for sure.

You think she knows Caylee is gone and she is trying to save Casey....wonder how she would feel if Casey and Jose throw her under the bus. Making a defense centered around Cindy and her controlling ways and abusive remarks to Casey....

[Pruddennce]

OMG Pru, I was thinking just the same thoughts...like they live on different planets from each other...you know what they say>>>Great minds...;)

yes we do! sheesh....Im still listening.....

Im at the part about Lee going to the apt....

what was in her 'second purse' (because there was one in the car when they retrieved it).

Cash, JCPEnnys, Sears Card.

Cindy said Casey only had ONE CARD. ONE CARD. JC Pennys.

why does she lie....Im still thinking about that.

best regards,
Pru

[barskin&co.]

what IS significant is this:

HE KNEW THE EMAILS WERE BOGUS. He went into detail about it.

He SUSPECTED she didnt have a job.

now the interesting part:

Lee references the emails as if they are EVIDENCE, *see she had a job!*......doing a HAPPY DANCE with his 'new evidence'......and George is sitting here saying I KNOW THEY WERE BOGUS (paraprasing, but he knew they were made up).

seems like they are all existing independent of one another....they have each fallen down their own rabbit hole.

best regards,
Pru

Yeah, isn't that something? George knew she was up to something, sending herself stuff from one computer to another. He knew she was just trying to make it seem like she had a job when she didn't. In that regard, Lee seems slimier by the minute.

[hamebone]

SOOOO, does anyone want to debate about the tat that Casey got right after Caylee 'got lost'?


It shows she is a cold hearted witch...I think she out right killed Caylee...so she could party runaround...and get tattoes..etc..

[cloe23]

W o W that's an interesting thought. I'd not thought of that; but it's something. It's very interesting to go back in cases and start over, and look at what was said. The greta intv haunts me; the gas cans and the pool info. Now this bit of this accident, I believe there may be shades to what casey was saying regarding those injuries. Clearly, she was around someone where something happened. She even said it herself "it happened"

Well what happened Casey? Just walz yourself right down to LE turn yourself in; and be the woman you should be. There will never be a way out of these lies. I would; if I were her. AND, I'd do it WITHOUT counsel present. To PROVE that I was going to tell; simply.
The Truth.

Casey Anthony has some growing up to do; if she panicked and there was an accident, even if it was with one of her family members, she needs to come forward, for Caylee. It's the one thing left that she can ever do for her child. The one thing left. Tell the truth.



I can not get past the premeditation. I don't like it, it sickens me but it is clearly there. JMO

[Joan Weiss]

Has anyone posted a timeline? When did Casey make the computer searches about chloroform?

Tonight on NG someone mentioned that chloroform is used as an aid for sexual satisfaction by some. I never heard of that before but that would turn out to be a defense used by Casey.

I was wondering if the searches were done before the baby died (which I'm sure did happen) that Casey had researched them in order to use it as a sedative on the baby to keep her sleeping in the car while she herself partied.

Perhaps she bought some and used it for this purpose and the child died in the car.

Casey then drove around with the baby in a plastic bag while she had nightmares and tried and discarded various ways to get rid of the body.


Put body in bag in play house.

Buried it using the borrowed shovel.

Realized dogs could dig it up or point it out so she retrieved it.

Put it back in car.

Rode around again until the smell became unbearable.

Put body in dumpster (the one for the recyclables perhaps).

Abandoned car.


Does that fit the timeline?Did you forget about the missing children sites she perused before Caylee went missing? And the search for Zenaida before Caylee went missing? She killed her daughter. imo

[jammies]

Liars lie about everything. Even the most innocuous things. To them, the lie is always much better than the truth. Like rearranging the furniture. imo




or the deck chairs.

[Elle]

Found this by KAKAK on links page....
* Detectives interviewed Matthew Crisp, a friend of Anthony's said he spoke to her at a Subway on Goldenrod Road and University Boulevard on July 7. Crisp said he asked "How's the munchkin?" Anthony explained to Crisp that Caylee was good and on a playdate in Sanford. He also noted that he remembered her driving a dark-colored SUV.

July 7th was a monday, wouldn't Cindy have been working? I thought she worked monday through friday and George Sunday through Thursday. He said the day he went off chasing Casey that Cindy was home, there is only one full day that they are both home together(saturday), and one half day (sunday). IMO it would be one of those days that Casey took Cindy's car (just guessing). I am thinking that on that day she may have had Tony's jeep.
imo, moo

[need2no]

I agree, she is an odd egg for sure.

You think she knows Caylee is gone and she is trying to save Casey....wonder how she would feel if Casey and Jose throw her under the bus. Making a defense centered around Cindy and her controlling ways and abusive remarks to Casey....


Remember when Cindy told a reporter she had already lost one and didn't want to lose another one. This was a slip up and she tried to back peddle...but I think this was likely one of the most honest heartfelt comments she has made throughout.

I have no doubt Baez will try to garner sympathy for Casey and humanize her by ripping Cindy to shreds in the courtroom.

[hamebone]

I think the Missing Children site search shows premeditation. It doesn't get more cold-blooded.

It sure doesnt, Cindy & George would of taken Caylee , she couldnt stand that thought tho'..she killed two birds with one stone...Caylee and Cindy....but Cindy is to caught up in saving Casey to see it....IMO

[Joan Weiss]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71666&page=5

post 125



http://www.angelsforstacy.hqforums.com/whos-who-in-the-caylee-anthony-case-vt172.html

scroll down to Rusciano.

My eyes are really bad. Are they the same person?
Is the top pic the one you were talking about?I thought that was JP Chatt.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Listening to the interview again. They tell GA. They believe he is a guy that knows alot about a lot of things. They sound like they are trying to hint at something to him. They know he knows something.

Maybe I wasn't wrong to begin with?

[hamebone]

July 7th was a monday, wouldn't Cindy have been working? I thought she worked monday through friday and George Sunday through Thursday. He said the day he went off chasing Casey that Cindy was home, there is only one full day that they are both home together(saturday), and one half day (sunday). IMO it would be one of those days that Casey took Cindy's car (just guessing). I am thinking that on that day she may have had Tony's jeep.
imo, moo



Tony came back home on July the 5th. IIRC

[Joan Weiss]

or the deck chairs.On the Titanic. Yep, she's going down. imo

[5boxersmom]

I'm listening to George's interview.

I have to say, as screwed up as they all are, it's actually a pleasure to listen to George after having experienced Cindy's interview. :rolleyes:

I am listening to it too.

Caylee:rose:

[hamebone]

Remember when Cindy told a reporter she had already lost one and didn't want to lose another one. This was a slip up and she tried to back peddle...but I think this was likely one of the most honest heartfelt comments she has made throughout.

I have no doubt Baez will try to garner sympathy for Casey and humanize her by ripping Cindy to shreds in the courtroom.

I sure do remember that and I think you are right!

[Ionmhainn]

Listening to the interview again. They tell GA. They believe he is a guy that knows alot about a lot of things. They sound like they are trying to hint at something to him. They know he knows something.

Maybe I wasn't wrong to begin with?


Could you kindly point me in the right direction to find the link to George's interview? I didn't see it on the links thread. TIA.

[5boxersmom]

Listening to the interview again. They tell GA. They believe he is a guy that knows alot about a lot of things. They sound like they are trying to hint at something to him. They know he knows something.

Maybe I wasn't wrong to begin with?

About what sweetie? :)

[Rebel Rouzer]

Could you kindly point me in the right direction to find the link to George's interview? I didn't see it on the links thread. TIA.


Post #24 on this thread. :seeya:

[need2no]

I thought that was JP Chatt.


No, that's not Chatt, and no one seems to be able to identify this guy.

[barskin&co.]

I thought that was JP Chatt.

Once again, there is no evidence that JP Chatt ever knew Casey before she met Amy and Ricardo a year ago, which kind of takes him out of the paternity question. If anyone has evidence, please chime in.

[Ionmhainn]

Click on the link in post #24 on this thread. Inexplicably, it is the only one that works.


Thanks! :)

[Rebel Rouzer]

About what sweetie? :)

I;ll have to go over the theory and what i thought and what i now think tomorrow sweetie. I'm so tired i am going to finish listening to this for second time and then go to bed.

Hugs
RR

[Motomom]

not petty at all....the dates and days are all fuzzy.....but not when it comes to reiterating what 'casey told them'.....Cindy's exhaustive interview complete wtih every single detail told to her...

its astonishing...it really is...

Im changing my puter-chair analysis of her.....my decision isnt in yet, though :cool:

best regards,
Pru


I am just now watchign the cindyviews. I'm going to have to watch it again because I'm barely focusing on it. I can't believe that she was able to recite those lies and names so well.

[jammies]

Listening to the interview again. They tell GA. They believe he is a guy that knows alot about a lot of things. They sound like they are trying to hint at something to him. They know he knows something.

Maybe I wasn't wrong to begin with?


I thought about that and it almost sounded like they were complimenting him. :shrug:

[need2no]

Hey Yes I heard that; and then the report yesterday that cindy and casey spend quality time together and casey "confides" in cindy all day and george is on the other end of the house.

she needs to come forward to stop the madness. Have to have some hope that she may. It's very possible that soon, the only place Casey will be comfortable will be in a cell; where she doesnt have to "deal".
She will never have any normal semblance of life, otherwise. I think she wanted that, badly. To fit in; to be normal, to be free. She's free now. Let her be free in her cell. Give her some counseling for about 15 yrs, then release her into the population again. Good ol prison shrinks geez.
She can brush up on her english some ?



I think Casey expects George and Cindy to see to it that she gets out of this mess, and Baez probably speaks very confidently to her and assures her they will have a good defense ready to go when the time comes.

[Pruddennce]

so far, George has revealed plenty and nothing:

heres the conundrum for me:

he can easily articulate what Cindy told him about, for instance, 'what Amy said'....word for word....but then he bottoms out when asked a specific date or day.....

ok, I listened again regarding the car chase:

........"because my wife.....dont follow her" George --->'Im tired of this, this evasiveness....' <---and cindy denied knowledge of this car chase.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[BrownEyedF]

I feel really bad for George. I think he wants to get to the bottom of this. I was not feeling this way about him before. Now I think that he just clashed with the protestors because he is so stressed out. The taped interview with him made me want to give him a hug. Poor guy.

[barskin&co.]

I'm totally good to go with That.....What is it you think that made cindy hate Casey so much? I dont know.
All I know is that Casey's statement from jail was "not my fault" and that rings in my ears. Not my fault. So who's fault was it, her mothers?

Dots

Casey was blaming her mother for calling the police, who she said arrested her on a <expletive> whim. Cindy kept telling her she wouldn't be in jail if hadn't been for all her lies.
Cindy Anthony: "Whose fault is it you're sitting in jail? Are you blaming me you are sitting in the jail? Blame yourself for telling lies. What do you mean it is not your fault? What do you mean it's not your fault, sweetheart? If you would have told them the truth and not lied about everything…"

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7068416&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

And that's the last time Cindy seemed to talk reality to Casey.

[cherish]

Hi, sorry i'm so behind -

Is there evidence anywhere that confirms LP's (bounty hunter) theory that Caylee was placed in a bag that must have ripped open, releasing bodily fluids in the car?

Is he talking about a plastic trash bag?

[barskin&co.]

I did read that Chatt didn't much like Casey. So he has some common sense. :cool:

That is what Amy said. She also said he has very little to do with all this.

[barskin&co.]

I wonder when George turned from the reasonable guy who talked so honestly to the police to the angry one who is always exploding at the press?

[Elle]

Tony came back home on July the 5th. IIRC

Right, but wasn't she staying there with him? Tony mentioned that he sometimes went with Clint (might have been Nate, but I think he said Clint) when they went to school. Maybe she used it when he was gone?
I have no idea, it very well may have been Cindy's car on the 7th, maybe she did not go into work that monday. My thinking that her taking Cindy's car on a weekend day was based soley on their work schedule...but I have absolutely no idea:)

[Pruddennce]

No, that's not Chatt, and no one seems to be able to identify this guy.

I wonder if its Ryan Pasley, her childhood friend.

Ryan was in town and she was supposed to go to a bar-b-q at his aunts on saturday or sunday I think, (14th or 15th of June) and she bailed on him.

He is the one that Cindy called to verify employment at Sports Authority and other things. She also told him she was a thief and to stop talking with her. She told him about the grandmother theft. She also told him Casey was a SOCIOPATH.

it might be his pic.

best regards,
Pru

[Motomom]

Why was this image --->

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_photos.jsp?contentId=7523110&version=1&locale=EN-US

on Casey's computer?

I saw that earlier and wasn't sure what it was. When did she put it on her computer? Was it just on her computer or myspace? There was one mentioned that was on her myspace but I never saw the picture.

[jammies]

I think they really sympathize with George. That's my take on their tone and the questions and comments they're making.


Ditto. You know they believe he's being truthful because they don't try and trip him up or badger him. They must be as grateful for his interview as we are..........after Cindy's.

GA doesn't put Casey in a good light. He's admitting quite a bit about her and that has to be very difficult. You can just hear the pain in his voice.

[barskin&co.]

Right, but wasn't she staying there with him? Tony mentioned that he sometimes went with Clint (might have been Nate, but I think he said Clint) when they went to school. Maybe she used it when he was gone?
I have no idea, it very well may have been Cindy's car on the 7th, maybe she did not go into work that monday. My thinking that her taking Cindy's car on a weekend day was based soley on their work schedule...but I have absolutely no idea:)

She wasn't allowed to stay at the apartment while he was gone, so she had to mooch off of Amy.

[Pruddennce]

I am just now watchign the cindyviews. I'm going to have to watch it again because I'm barely focusing on it. I can't believe that she was able to recite those lies and names so well.

its incredible......I am in awe of such recall.

best regards,
Pru

[BrownEyedF]

I think they really sympathize with George. That's my take on their tone and the questions and comments they're making.


ITA. I now sympathize with George also. I think either way he goes here that his marriage will be in a shambles at the end of this whole thing. Sounds like he loves Cindy. If Casey is brought to justice Cindy might blame George somewhat. If Casey isn't brought to justice and is still with them for any time period, that will be a quick demise to their relationship.

The best thing that could happen for him would be for Casey to get thrown in the klink ASAP and him and Cindy enroll themselves in some intensive counseling.

[dvsone]

Would anyone care to give me the cliff notes version of whats going on? ... Ive been away at a HS football game..

Released pics? :eek:

[Ionmhainn]

I think I'm going to have to save George's interview for tomorrow, but before I log out...does anybody know why we only have audio for him? TIA

[need2no]

I wonder when George turned from the reasonable guy who talked so honestly to the police to the angry one who is always exploding at the press?


Seems he had to pull from way back...to his own LE career.

Where was it we heard he was having an affair back when he and Cindy split up? I'm on information overload.

[barskin&co.]

I think if I lived with Cindy and Casey, I'd be exploding, too. Seems like he's frustrated beyond belief, but they just can't quite aim all that angst in the right direction.

That sounds right.

[need2no]

I think I'm going to have to save George's interview for tomorrow, but before I log out...does anybody know why we only have audio for him? TIA



Not a clue, and I also wonder why his interview isn't on the Fox site with all the others. :confused:


:seeya:Good night!

[OneUp]

what IS significant is this:

HE KNEW THE EMAILS WERE BOGUS. He went into detail about it.

He SUSPECTED she didnt have a job.

now the interesting part:

Lee references the emails as if they are EVIDENCE, *see she had a job!*......doing a HAPPY DANCE with his 'new evidence'......and George is sitting here saying I KNOW THEY WERE BOGUS (paraprasing, but he knew they were made up).

seems like they are all existing independent of one another....they have each fallen down their own rabbit hole.

best regards,
PruIDK if you're still on here Pru....but thinkiing of this apparentally compartmentalized POV's on Casey and the "evidence " in the family, I realize that they just aren't so good with the communication, period. Can you imagine the scene if they were trying to get a story straight to stick to? George being all "Law enforcement and dad" and Cindy totally irrational and jumping from thought to thought like a grasshopper...with Lee smugly convinced of his brilliance and super sleuth skills...LOL. That is a scene fit for the Stooges if it were not for the awful truth at the core of this case.
I can see how , even trying to stick to one story they could all veer off on their own tangents!
JMO.

[aubrey04]

No, that's not Chatt, and no one seems to be able to identify this guy.

It looks like the cop that got fired to me ... maybe?.. scroll down to the bottom -his picture is next to his name, Rusciano, Anthony “Tony” ..

but I could be wrong?

ETA: the link ..(duh)..

http://www.angelsforstacy.hqforums.com/whos-who-in-the-caylee-anthony-case-vt172.html

[barskin&co.]

Seems he had to pull from way back...to his own LE career.

Where was it we heard he was having an affair back when he and Cindy split up? I'm on information overload.

I think that came from Casey. That came up in one of the first interviews- with Amy?

[Ionmhainn]

Not a clue, and I also wonder why his interview isn't on the Fox site with all the others. :confused:


:seeya:Good night!

OK...thanks. You have a good one too.

[need2no]

I think that came from Casey. That came up in one of the first interviews- with Amy?


Thanks, that's what I thought but I'm so tired wasn't sure I could trust myself.

[Pruddennce]

IDK if you're still on here Pru....but thinkiing of this apparentally compartmentalized POV's on Casey and the "evidence " in the family, I realize that they just aren't so good with the communication, period. Can you imagine the scene if they were trying to get a story straight to stick to? George being all "Law enforcement and dad" and Cindy totally irrational and jumping from thought to thought like a grasshopper...with Lee smugly convinced of his brilliance and super sleuth skills...LOL. That is a scene fit for the Stooges if it were not for the awful truth at the core of this case.
I can see how , even trying to stick to one story they could all veer off on their own tangents!
JMO.

perfect analysis!

and although there is no brilliance here, as you pointed out, it reminds me of a quote from the movie Amadeus (Mozart) who was brilliant, but nonetheless I say:

"TOO MANY NOTES"!!

best regards,
Pru

[need2no]

Didn't Casey tell Amy that when she told her the house was being signed over to her?


I'm not sure...I seem to remember Amy told Cindy this is what Casey had told her, so that being the case we don't really know if it's true or not.

[OneUp]

And whatever Cindy's version is will be the one that sticks, if she's in the room. They don't get through to each other AT ALL. You're absolutely right about that.I'm glad someone could make sense of that post! It made sense in my head...but the lost clarity ( and grammar) in the translation to the boards!
I was reading it myself and had a "holy moly!" response to my own post...I swear i haven't been drinking. I think it's just information overload.
Gladd yu were able to interpret!

[Pruddennce]

I'm not sure...I seem to remember Amy told Cindy this is what Casey had told her, so that being the case we don't really know if it's true or not.

right. "Casey told"....its in Amy's statement.

all lies....(but an old truth...when the parents DID split up)....perhaps the only thing she doesnt lie about is getting a tatoo....now thats tangible evidence.

best regards,
Pru

[cloe23]

I wonder when George turned from the reasonable guy who talked so honestly to the police to the angry one who is always exploding at the press?

He sure hasn't fooled me!

[OneUp]

perfect analysis!

and although there is no brilliance here, as you pointed out, it reminds me of a quote from the movie Amadeus (Mozart) who was brilliant, but nonetheless I say:

"TOO MANY NOTES"!!

best regards,
PruWoo Hoo! I'm two for two...you all have some great skills at finding the meaning in the rambles! But you both "got" exactly what i was trying to say w/o fussy terminology!
Seriously, I think they began with the same "script" and then each thought themselves clever and began to embellish. That seems a bit simpler a way to put it!
I am frustrated that I haven't heard the audios on George and Cindy yet...I'm not about to wake this babe though!
I did read most of the interviews...just alot of little things that added up to confirmation of the big picture for me.

JMO.

[jammies]

I think if I lived with Cindy and Casey, I'd be exploding, too. Seems like he's frustrated beyond belief, but they just can't quite aim all that angst in the right direction.



I'll bet he has to be very careful at home. tiptoe. Cindy can't hear the truth or she'll break in half, Casey whom he knows is responsible for Caylee's death.........I understand exactly why he blows up after hearing these interviews.

I feel sorry for Cindy too. Her pleading with LE and sobbing......felt to me like she was begging them not to make her hear the truth. She's a control freak and this is something so out of her control that she can only deal with it by fooling herself.

I'm somewhat of a c.f. too (ask my kids and siblings!) I have a very hard time with things I can't DO something about.
The only way I've learned to deal with it is to lay it on God. I have to REMIND myself when I get stressed. It may sound silly to some, but it's the only thing for me that works. I just wish Cindy to get to that point....some counseling might help. I dearly think she needs it more than anyone in that family. She's just not going to make it if she doesn't come to terms.

[barskin&co.]

Thanks, that's what I thought but I'm so tired wasn't sure I could trust myself.

Yes, here it is from the interview with Amy in the first docs released

page 399 of 432 (doc number 230)

"Um, and the next day she tells me the whole reason this happened is because her dad has been cheating on her mom for two years."

Also
"And, According to her, father's insane and crazy."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

[aubrey04]

Looks like we all missed the bus.. There is a late night thread with a lot of posts already:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=341472

[Mamie]

Ditto. You know they believe he's being truthful because they don't try and trip him up or badger him. They must be as grateful for his interview as we are..........after Cindy's.

GA doesn't put Casey in a good light. He's admitting quite a bit about her and that has to be very difficult. You can just hear the pain in his voice.


IMO, GA, who also used to be LE, knows you're not going to fool them (like his wife and his daughter think they are doing) AND LE doesn't try to trip him up either because, as well, they know that he knows all those techniques they use in interviewing and interrogating. I agree, it has to be difficult for him to admit so much about his daughter, I mean she is first, his daughter, and then she's everything else. And I'm sure he loved his granddaughter every bit as much as Cindy did.

[jammies]

perfect analysis!

and although there is no brilliance here, as you pointed out, it reminds me of a quote from the movie Amadeus (Mozart) who was brilliant, but nonetheless I say:

"TOO MANY NOTES"!!

best regards,
Pru



Woofie...........I love that movie!

[SaraSidle]

Has anyone posted a timeline? When did Casey make the computer searches about chloroform?

Tonight on NG someone mentioned that chloroform is used as an aid for sexual satisfaction by some. I never heard of that before but that would turn out to be a defense used by Casey.

I was wondering if the searches were done before the baby died (which I'm sure did happen) that Casey had researched them in order to use it as a sedative on the baby to keep her sleeping in the car while she herself partied.

Perhaps she bought some and used it for this purpose and the child died in the car.

Casey then drove around with the baby in a plastic bag while she had nightmares and tried and discarded various ways to get rid of the body.


Put body in bag in play house.

Buried it using the borrowed shovel.

Realized dogs could dig it up or point it out so she retrieved it.

Put it back in car.

Rode around again until the smell became unbearable.

Put body in dumpster (the one for the recyclables perhaps).

Abandoned car.


Does that fit the timeline?

Do not forget the sandbox too

[Takotna]

George worked 3-11 on the 15th.

Thanks, I just heard that - now I wonder why he arrived home at 9:45pm - in time for the 3rd 911 call?


My oh my! I am behind. Thanks all for posting the links and all your comments. I'm still :read:ing.....

AllMO:)

[5boxersmom]

LE tells George that they have not found the backpack with the monkeys.

They also say George we think you know alot about alot of things. Was that a compliment or what?


Caylee:rose:

[jammies]

GA seemed far more comfortable with LE than he is with Cindy.

[Elle]

It looks like the cop that got fired to me ... maybe?.. scroll down to the bottom -his picture is next to his name, Rusciano, Anthony “Tony” ..

but I could be wrong?

ETA: the link ..(duh)..

http://www.angelsforstacy.hqforums.com/whos-who-in-the-caylee-anthony-case-vt172.html

Thats what I posted a couple of pages back. I thought they could be the same guy. (not implying he is related to Caylee, I just think they may be the same person)

[Elle]

She wasn't allowed to stay at the apartment while he was gone, so she had to mooch off of Amy.

Definately wise move on his part not letting her stay but I thought she stayed with him when he came back? If the guy from Subway saw her in a dark SUV on the 7th she could have been using his car? I only nixed it being Cindy's because she stated she worked m-f and the 7th was a monday....but she may have taken the day off:shrug:

I have a lot of work to do on my sleuthing skills:), the Entwistle case is the first time I ever followed a case so closely.

imo, moo

[need2no]

Yes, here it is from the interview with Amy in the first docs released

page 399 of 432 (doc number 230)

"Um, and the next day she tells me the whole reason this happened is because her dad has been cheating on her mom for two years."

Also
"And, According to her, father's insane and crazy."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf


Thanks bar...and Cindy told Amy they weren't having any problems...so there you go. :D

[aubrey04]

LE tells George that they have not found the backpack with the monkeys.

They also say George we think you know alot about alot of things. Was that a compliment or what?


Caylee:rose:

Wow. That comment got me too. I wondered how George took it.. and I wonder how it was meant to be perceived. It could have meant, "I think you know a lot of things" about life and in general.. a smart man.

Or it could mean that he knows about a lot of things about the crime that was committed.

[GrannyB]

Woo Hoo! I'm two for two...you all have some great skills at finding the meaning in the rambles! But you both "got" exactly what i was trying to say w/o fussy terminology!
Seriously, I think they began with the same "script" and then each thought themselves clever and began to embellish. That seems a bit simpler a way to put it!
I am frustrated that I haven't heard the audios on George and Cindy yet...I'm not about to wake this babe though!
I did read most of the interviews...just alot of little things that added up to confirmation of the big picture for me.

JMO.

Cindy's part 2 audio will leave you speachless. I've never seen anything like that in my life.

[barskin&co.]

Definately wise move on his part not letting her stay but I thought she stayed with him when he came back? If the guy from Subway saw her in a dark SUV on the 7th she could have been using his car? I only nixed it being Cindy's because she stated she worked m-f and the 7th was a monday....but she may have taken the day off:shrug:

I have a lot of work to do on my sleuthing skills:), the Entwistle case is the first time I ever followed a case so closely.

imo, moo

Oh, when he came back she resumed residence and stayed there until Cindy crashed the party and yanked her, kicking and screaming, back home.

[OneUp]

GA seemed far more comfortable with LE than he is with Cindy.
Can you blame him?....that's probably the most peace and respect he has enjoyed since the wedding ( this was not even a joke folks!)
JMO.

[5boxersmom]

Wow. That comment got me too. I wondered how George took it.. and I wonder how it was meant to be perceived. It could have meant, "I think you know a lot of things" about life and in general.. a smart man.

Or it could mean that he knows about a lot of things about the crime that was committed.


I wondered if it was about the crime. Double talk.

jmo

[GrannyB]

I'll bet he has to be very careful at home. tiptoe. Cindy can't hear the truth or she'll break in half, Casey whom he knows is responsible for Caylee's death.........I understand exactly why he blows up after hearing these interviews.

I feel sorry for Cindy too. Her pleading with LE and sobbing......felt to me like she was begging them not to make her hear the truth. She's a control freak and this is something so out of her control that she can only deal with it by fooling herself.

I'm somewhat of a c.f. too (ask my kids and siblings!) I have a very hard time with things I can't DO something about.
The only way I've learned to deal with it is to lay it on God. I have to REMIND myself when I get stressed. It may sound silly to some, but it's the only thing for me that works. I just wish Cindy to get to that point....some counseling might help. I dearly think she needs it more than anyone in that family. She's just not going to make it if she doesn't come to terms.

Cindy didn't start sobbing until they finally got it thru her thick head they didn't believe her. Had to tell her she was lying and they knew it.

[dvsone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTzY-o-Y4y8


Just in case. You all may want this info.

JMO

Is there a reason to repeatedly post Pink's Stupid Girls song/video link?

:confused:

[barskin&co.]

Okay, guys, Nitey nite! :seeya:

[aubrey04]

Thats what I posted a couple of pages back. I thought they could be the same guy. (not implying he is related to Caylee, I just think they may be the same person)

Oh, I am sorry - I missed it.. my brain is going numb right now. Yeah, I am not for sure if that is Anthony/Tony the cop or not, but they do look similar, especially the facial bone structure... around the chin .. his smile.. and goatee.

[aubrey04]

Going to bed too.. I will try and sort through the tangled web again tomorrow... What a nightmare. GN.

:seeya:

[OneUp]

Okay, guys, Nitey nite! :seeya::seeya:...just know I'm jealous because I didn't get to listen and you did!
Lucky girl!

[Mamie]

LE tells George that they have not found the backpack with the monkeys.

They also say George we think you know alot about alot of things. Was that a compliment or what?


Caylee:rose:

In my opinion, it was both a compliment and the or what. I mean if they want him to be straight up with them, they do need to toss him a compliment now and then. After all, he was on the job and as long as he's not looking like he's in a bad light with them, they are giving him the respect they should be giving him, while at the same time knowing the difficult position he's having to deal with. And then, gently letting him know that if there's info he has, they're going to get it eventually. JMO

[Elle]

Oh, I am sorry - I missed it.. my brain is going numb right now. Yeah, I am not for sure if that is Anthony/Tony the cop or not, but they do look similar, especially the facial bone structure... around the chin .. his smile.. and goatee.

No apologies, I was agreeing with you! Were on the same page:) I am not sure either but there are definately strong similarities. They may be the same guy. imo, moo

[Rayosunshine]

Once again, there is no evidence that JP Chatt ever knew Casey before she met Amy and Ricardo a year ago, which kind of takes him out of the paternity question. If anyone has evidence, please chime in.

So far, all I've found is a FB post to Casey from JP that sounds "warm and fuzzy". Its from May 08. And it sound a little too warm and fuzzy to be coming from someone who Amy told LE didn't really like Casey.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[need2no]

No apologies, I was agreeing with you! Were on the same page:) I am not sure either but there are definately strong similarities. imo, moo


Just came back from enlarging Anthony's pic and comparing it to the mysterious guy...by golly I do believe you are correct. Thank-you for this, it's been bugging me for a while.

He sure seems to be enjoying holding her and she looks happy and content in that sweet pic.

[Elle]

Does anyone know if there is a transcript of Cindy and George's interviews?
tia

[need2no]

Does anyone know if there is a transcript of Cindy and George's interviews?
tia

I've looked and haven't found any yet...but hopefully someone will put transcripts on line soon.

[Elle]

Just came back from enlarging Anthony's pic and comparing it to the mysterious guy...by golly I do believe you are correct. Thank-you for this, it's been bugging me for a while.

He sure seems to be enjoying holding her and she looks happy and content in that sweet pic.


You are very welcome:)

It is a really sweet picture.

[Elle]

I've looked and haven't found any yet...but hopefully someone will put transcripts on line soon.

TY:seeya:

I missed alot of Cindy's interview, some things I couldn't make out, especially when they spoke omewhat softly. The speakers on my comp are awful! I walked around for the longest time with it literally stuck to the side of my face trying to hear.

[Elle]

Goodnight one and all...



:rose: Caylee

[jammies]

Can you blame him?....that's probably the most peace and respect he has enjoyed since the wedding ( this was not even a joke folks!)
JMO.



But I'm laughin' anyway! Thanks, we all needed that!

[jammies]

night everyone.

[AlohaRainbow]

what IS significant is this:

HE KNEW THE EMAILS WERE BOGUS. He went into detail about it.

He SUSPECTED she didnt have a job.

now the interesting part:

Lee references the emails as if they are EVIDENCE, *see she had a job!*......doing a HAPPY DANCE with his 'new evidence'......and George is sitting here saying I KNOW THEY WERE BOGUS (paraprasing, but he knew they were made up).

seems like they are all existing independent of one another....they have each fallen down their own rabbit hole.

best regards,
Pru
i always enjoy reading your posts, pru...
i must say you captured the essence of the anthony family with just these 9 words:
they have each fallen down their own rabbit hole.

:seeya:

[rj1212]

George seemed to be sincere back then folks, but to me, he lost credibility when weeks later he stated that "the kidnappers (who'd supposedly taken Caylee) were being "watched".

George hasn't updated us on that tidbit...I wonder why?

[Fallen Angel]

This post is TOTALLY off topic. and i'm sure CW will remove it BUT i wanted to let all my friends and foes know that at 9:08 pm while i was watching the debates......

MY SON CAME HOME FROM IRAQ


I have never been so happy to see anyone in my life. He was suppose to be home next week but he got on an early flight and surprised us.

Ok on another note before rumors start flying around ......
i've been diagnosed with breast cancer. i do not know yet what i will do or what treatments i will take. i go back to the dr monday and i want to say now thank you for all the pm's, email and thoughts and prayers.

Anyways, its 2am and my son wants some of momma's homemade mac and cheese so i better get down there and get to cookin for him.

have a great weekend everyone.

[cuddlyrunner]

Great news -hug him tight x

[nutterbutter]

I honestly believe that, if the hosts would stop interrupting him and let him actually speak and finish a sentence, we'd all know a lot more. I know that LP is not the most eloquent speaker, but over the weeks and months, more and more of what he says makes sense, and I'd actually like to hear more of his facts and theories.

I'm so getting tired of the NG format, "let's go out to the lawyers", "caller, what's your question?, (thank you, for loving me and my show, and yes my twins are precious and adorable and I am the perfect mother, and please keep the compliments coming). barf

Sorry, for venting!


she is however the only show still concerned with and carrying the story of Caylee.moo

[GrannyB]

No one is up I guess????



It sure is quiet tonight. Where is everybody?

[GrannyB]

No clue. Honestly. And it is a Friday evening. I am rewatching the Cindy Anthony LE interview. And that woman cannot keep things straight...she lies...she has some things really nailed down and other things like her separation...anything negative she fudges over...amazing really. Plus, she does this weird foot action with her shoes under the table when they ask her questions that she can't or won't answer...like who the daddy is...and everything else.

I watched it yesterday. Cindy is something else. I can't get the audio of George to play and I really want to hear him.

[GrannyB]

ITA except it is just the lies in part two of the interview. The specifics and attention to detail...where she just piggybacks off of what LE tells her...and tries to fix it. It is almost borderline sick. She is trying to take what they throw at her and try to completely fix it. And she KNOWS that it is wrong what she is doing and is extrapolating for whatever screwed up reason.

What grips me the most is when she figures out the Det know it's all bs she starts the crying bit. I don't think they fell for it. No wonder George and Cindy went out a got a lawyer. They know they are in trouble.

[febreze]

A video interview with Cindy was released today. Cindy tells a story Casey told her about how they were all (Casey, Caylee, Raquel and Zanny) were in Tampa for business...Zanny was there to watch the children. Zanny totalled her car and ended up in Tampa General with all kind of injuries and blah, blah, blah.

jmo

the police shouldn't have any trouble checking with the Tampa General hospital concerning the accident :shrug:(another one of Casey's BS stories)