Friday9/26 Morning Thread/Day 102

[steffaroob4]

She is blaming Jesse and all that stuff now in her interview. OMG She is a piece of work. :punch:

funny how she is throwing him under the bus after all the work he was doing to find Caylee and her own daughter was doing and saying NOTHING. And here is a clue cindy, casey is the one who had Caylee, Jesse was working still in June.

[kitty1182]

Now why would she do that? You know-this whole thing really SCARES me...what was Caylee being put through?

There's no telling:(

[babblefishie]

OMG! Preeeemeditation!

I can't get over this......

It seems like Casey's daughter Caylee was the problem in the relationship.
"Ha, want me to bring the little snot head?" Casey asked Rusciano. "Didn't think so," she told him.
During the conversation, Casey often refereed to Caylee as "passed out." But what does passed out really mean? Eyewitness News has reported that chloroform was found in the trunk of Casey's car. Casey makes it clear her own daughter tires her out.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

She's going away for a long time.... if she isn't executed. :eek::eek:

[kitty1182]

I can't get over this......

It seems like Casey's daughter Caylee was the problem in the relationship.
"Ha, want me to bring the little snot head?" Casey asked Rusciano. "Didn't think so," she told him.
During the conversation, Casey often refereed to Caylee as "passed out." But what does passed out really mean? Eyewitness News has reported that chloroform was found in the trunk of Casey's car. Casey makes it clear her own daughter tires her out.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

She's going away for a long time.... if she isn't executed. :eek::eek:

I wish they would arrest her today!!!!!

[GrannyB]

Now why would she do that? You know-this whole thing really SCARES me...what was Caylee being put through?


That bothers me a lot. The poor child was living in a very disturbing house.

[Rebel Rouzer]

'Documents reveal she visited missing children web sites as early as March. '

:eek:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html


I'm going to have to read through the comouter docs. She was on Myspace and they always have Amber Alerts and stuff on missing children. BUT It does seem like from what has been reported so far that I have read. That it's very likely she may have premeditated this and the straw that broke the camels back was when she decided or was told to find her own place. Not sure what was said the night of June 15th Fathers Day YET.

[Ms. Monk]

My question is this~~
According to Cindy-Caylee and Casey were spending the nights with "the nanny"-we all KNOW there wasn't a nanny. So WHERE was Caylee sleeping?

Help me out here please?!?!

In the back seat or truck of Casey's car?

[day2day]

There's no telling:(

yea -thats what i'm afraid of. Casey did say -she dropped Caylee off on the stairs alot. Who did she drop her off to and why? I would LOVE to ask the princess a few questions...in a very private room!

jmo

[GrannyB]

And the smell of death in the trunk was there why?

From the wrecker guy's interview it sounded like the smell was in the whole car.

[True2Blues]

Jesse should sue her like Zenadi is suing Casey..............

IMHO

Yes, he should. Defamation of character.

[babblefishie]

And the smell of death in the trunk was there why?

I think she doesn't know where she is because she has no idea what landfill Caylee or as SHE calls HER "the little snothead" ended up in. I think that's why she's so adamant that she can HONESTLY say she doesn't know.

I'm still floored that there is evidence that someone in the home was researching missing children's websites in March. :cuss:

[bballgrl]

Dang right Ambien will for sure, I have been on it for years. I have gotten up and scrambled eggs in my sleep. Heck, I don't even cook when I am awake, but danged if I didn't cook up quite a few things on Ambien. Hubby found me making Kraft macaroni & cheese in the middle of the night and put a stop to the cooking. He does tolerate eating in the bed tho, which is another problem. I absolutely could be told that I got up and hid money in the middle of the night and it would be beleiveable, its a sedative and hypnotic and amnesiac, you forget, you are sleepy and you are in a very relaxed state. I have hidden things from myself on ambien and found it much later. Just FYI and not to be icky but you can also have sex while on ambien and remember NOTHING. Thats how powerfull it is.:chicken:

I have been taking it for many years also.. Doesn't have this affect on me, but Lunesta on the other hand... Yikes!

[kitty1182]

OMG. The more information that comes out the more I am leaning towards Casey drugging Caylee and keeping her in the trunk. probably something she had started doing since about May when she started spending less time at home.

I think after Ricardo went to sleep that night Caylee drugged Caylee and popped her right into the trunk for the rest of the night so she could sleep in with Ricardo.

I think you are right!!

[OneUp]

'Documents reveal she visited missing children web sites as early as March. '

:eek:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.htmlThat tends to prove premaditation...could be a coincidence, but i don't believe in those, and with this family? with this "thing" called a mother? I don't think so!
So, probably looking for things to know...reporting...how long was long enough...where kids end up and never get found or get found years later?...the "typical" descriptions and circumstances maybe?...definitely some type of "research".
This case just gets worse, and worse..
JMO.

[steffaroob4]

'Documents reveal she visited missing children web sites as early as March. '

:eek:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html


That is strange, so is the fact that they haven't aged Caylee on their own missing person site (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/), i am almost 3.

Is she always going to be almost 3 to them?

[msgatorslayer]

I'm going to have to read through the comouter docs. She was on Myspace and they always have Amber Alerts and stuff on missing children. BUT It does seem like from what has been reported so far that I have read. That it's very likely she may have premeditated this and the straw that broke the camels back was when she decided or was told to find her own place. Not sure what was said the night of June 15th Fathers Day YET.

I'd like to know what sites she was searching. What kind of content she was looking for. Were they local cases, something that would have showed up on myspace as an Amber Alert. Or was she massively seeking information on missing children. What's done once a child is missing. Case stats. Which stories go unsolved. Who gets caught, etc.

Knowing that she calls her own Daughter a snot head to her new flavor of the month, I can't see her being compassionate and caring about other peoples missing children. She doesn't even care about her own missing.

[Regina.Lampert]

Now why would she do that? You know-this whole thing really SCARES me...what was Caylee being put through?

I think poor Caylee was subjected to the monster that casey anthony truly is, more times then we can imagine. That poor little girl......... :(

[LillyMac]

My son wandered away from me in Walmart once. They called a "Code Adam" and everyone was so nice about it... but I did not WAIT to tell everyone that would listen that he was missing. I had this very SICK feeling in my stomach and I could barely breathe. He was missing for all of 5 MINUTES and I almost broke down right then and there. If he was missing for 5 days, I would not have been able to EAT for the entire time. I would have been out pounding the pavement, handing out fliers, calling everyone I knew... not sitting at home with a trailer in front of my home that only my neighbors could see.

But that is just me.... :rose:
No me too. My son did the same thing in Kmart. As soon as they called the code Adam I remember the pure fear and panic that went thru me. I know that people react differently in situations but Caseys behavior is not normal.

[tiny paw-prints]

WTH is your problem? I was not sniping at you! I was telling you that it is a terror like no other, it is immobilizing terror. I was trying to give you insight into what it is like to find a dead child! You know I am sorry for even exposing myself to give you that insight, and especially when you have turned it into something personal and hateful! I even went so far as to tell you that I am grateful you do not understand that terror, and still that was met with rudeness! I give up!

Please stop this nonsense, Bratlings. Seriously.

You made your sniping evident in yesterday morning's thread. It's all there for anyone to retrieve. You went as far as to copy and quote 4-5 posts by members and then posted your snipe to each of us!

Those posts can be retrieved by the moderator if you choose to continue with your sniping remarks to members who are merely sharing their life-experiences.

We are ALL personally affected by this case, in one way or another.

:rose: Justice for sweet Caylee

[Mairi II]

I don't get as emotional as a lot of you about this case, but seeing Casey refer to Caylee as "the little snot head" really bothered me. Nice. Real nice. I'll bet that reference just rips Cindy apart. Very, very sad.

Caylee was a prop for Casey to begin with, I think. "Ohhhhhh! Look how grown up and mature Casey is! Wow - what a great mom!" Then the novelty wore off and Caylee became a burden... and likely her "enemy" of sorts when it came to Cindy. I think Cindy held Caylee in disdain. Poor little girl. It's no wonder Caylee looked more to Cindy as a mother figure than her own biological mother.

[martha]

I take it we have a lot of news on this case today but I have been busy so I can;t keep up hope ng tells some of it tonight. I just hope it puts casey behind bars for good. thank you all for posting what you or reading and watching so I can know a little of what is going on jmho:rose::rose:

[dtviewer]

The computer search about ZFG, if anyone cares, I asked my brother in law who is a computer IT specialist or something like that...

---snipped---
accessed by IE to prepare it to contain historical data for the next month.
michael: or so.
Daniel private: Ok

Thanks Brat and to your Brother in Law. :seeya:

[beckyj]

I'm watching Cindy's interview. The lady can't sit still! I don't know if that means anything other than she is nervous and probably tired, but it's notable.

It's really funny. I have a friend who talks EXACTLY like her. I would not be able to tell them apart if I was talking on the phone. They are both from Ohio too.

[True2Blues]

I can't get over this......

It seems like Casey's daughter Caylee was the problem in the relationship.
"Ha, want me to bring the little snot head?" Casey asked Rusciano. "Didn't think so," she told him.
During the conversation, Casey often refereed to Caylee as "passed out." But what does passed out really mean? Eyewitness News has reported that chloroform was found in the trunk of Casey's car. Casey makes it clear her own daughter tires her out.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

She's going away for a long time.... if she isn't executed. :eek::eek:

Passed out is such an interesting phrase, isn't it? More like knocked out, I think.

I've heard Mothers refer to their children as "rug rats" and even "Brats" in fun, but never "snot heads" and Casey obviously isn't joking in that email.

To me that's evidence of what I've said all along, she felt no love for Caylee. Didn't want her, denied she even existed for 7 months, resented her, considered her an enemy from day one.

[FeelinFroggy617]

OMG! Preeeemeditation!

The first thing that came into my mind was maybe she was searching for a name of someone that had abducted a child (an estranged parent, etc) and was going to use THAT name as a babysitter. Probably far fetched but its a thought.

[summer4meplz]

wow! this is nuts!!! with so much info coming out, i think it would be REALLY nice to have separate threads for all of these interviews/videos!!!

oh no...i can just barely keep up with ONE thread...lol

[msgatorslayer]

This is what I was trying to refer to. Who is "she". TIA.

Here's more of the content, Dunnie.

'Included among the evidence is a picture found on Casey Anthony's computer (see picture). The picture shows a little girl next to a teddy bear hanging by a noose. Next to it is what appears to be an anti-death penalty statement: "Why do people kill people, who kill people, to show people that to kill people is bad?"'

'Documents reveal she visited missing children web sites as early as March. There's also new information coming from Cindy Anthony's interview with investigators '

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

They're talking about Casey, IMO.

[spiritwolf46]

"Ha, want me to bring the little snot head?" Casey asked Rusciano. "Didn't think so," she told him.'

:cuss:

I read that and it literally mad me sick! That BIT**! :flamemad:

[day2day]

I think poor Caylee was subjected to the monster that casey anthony truly is, more times then we can imagine. That poor little girl......... :(

Oh Regina..I am sitting here trying to stop the tears. I agree with everything you said. I also noticed that Cindy said..."liked" alot...
I believe she knew then and she knows now that Caylee is gone.

jmo...

Caylee...sweet angel...:rose:

[crymeariver2006]

Okay I am probably going to get stuff thrown at me but here I go.

I can't say that I blame Cindy for thinking Jesse may have had something to do with this,only because Casey is telling them whatever she can to make them believe her. I find it no worse than the supposed texts from Jesse to Amy reguarding PR, that too was based on Casey's lies. imo

The problem she had with Jesse after Caylee's birth well I am sure that my mother would have been annoyed with my bf staying at the house especially if he didn't tidy up and being old fashioned she would have been thinking he should have had a job not be the babysitter.

I don't think a mother not liking the bf is very odd.


I do think she is reaching, but I can understand it I guess.

Again throw soft things please.JMHO

I wouldn't throw things!

IMO, Cindy is gagging on a gnat and swallowing a camel. Here's your daughter who has a baby that God only knows who the father is and then your have her boyfriend/fiance who by all accounts is a pretty stand up guy. He's in her room with her watching tv and Caylee is asleep in the crib.

Then she starts in with the "my house, my rules" (which I'm sure was an oft' repeated phrase from her).

I think a few dishes or whatever that Jesse left lying around is a far cry from murdering Caylee. Not cleaning up after himself should have gone in the "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff" file - especially if this guy thought so much of your daughter that he wanted to marry her even though he wasn't Caylee's father.

It's painfully obvious Cindy's just grasping at whatever crumbs Casey is slinging her way.

[OneUp]

Thanks Brat and to your Brother in Law. :seeya:
Yes, TY for going to all that trouble...now, will someone tell me ( in VERY simple terms please!) exactly what that means so I am sure I "get" it?

[hamebone]

On Jesse's July 31 interview LE told him Cindy wasn't telling them the dates they needed.

shame on her


Cindy Anthony gave some conflicting statements to investigators that day about Casey and also appeared to be in a hurry as they tried to establish a timeline in Caylee's disappearance.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

[GrannyB]

snipped for space

[QUOTE=Bratlings;12189633]The computer search about ZFG, if anyone cares, I asked my brother in law who is a computer IT specialist or something like that...

Daniel private: Mike are you there?
michael: 'sup?
Daniel private: I have a question... when you do a yahoo or google search for example.... does each search you do become a temp file?
michael: No, the page is built dynamically and discarded unless you go to it then it may become cached in a form of temp file but not by default.
Daniel private: Ok, I am trying to understand this report could you explain to me briefly if it means it was created, cached or what on 6-12 and then accessed again on 7-16-08
Daniel private: Name: index.dat
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Last Accessed: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 04:20:12PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
Daniel private: it is a yahoo search
michael: it's a



You needed to let him see this first. LE was putting the files back together. first in this file and then in files dated 7/16 to piece them back right.

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[margaritaville]

Okay so Some guy named Chris brought over a bag of Caylees stuff.
That Casey left at his house.
Is he the only one that had any of her things? She didn't seem to have any at Tony's house...It sounded like there was a swim suit and hair things in there. Where are the rest of Caylees belongings?

He left many messages with LE and they never called him back :cuss:

Quit Lying Cindy Anthony!!!

Even they said nobody has called us that we haven't called back!!

[kakax]

LOL, I don't know if you want to go to this much trouble Ka, but you could post a thread on Open Court asking for someone to roll over here who is computer savvy and gives us their opinion. I know
we have some fairly competent computer whizzes at IS.

Done...LOL...ty for the suggestion!!

[SavannahStar]

Which is what I have stated repeatedly.

The searches were on 7/16.

NOT on 6/12.


I'm just getting back from lunch, have a few pages to catch up, but I see that we have great disagreement here on the dates. I need to read more.....so far I agree with you. The TEMP file was created 6/12.

[day2day]

In the back seat or truck of Casey's car?

yes..or worse
imo

[Dogmatic]

"Ha, want me to bring the little snot head?" Casey asked Rusciano. "Didn't think so," she told him.'

:cuss:

That is just to troublesome and beyond! Unreal

[Regina.Lampert]

Passed out is such an interesting phrase, isn't it? More like knocked out, I think.

I've heard Mothers refer to their children as "rug rats" and even "Brats" in fun, but never "snot heads" and Casey obviously isn't joking in that email.

To me that's evidence of what I've said all along, she felt no love for Caylee. Didn't want her, denied she even existed for 7 months, resented her, considered her an enemy from day one.

You're right Blue and I think when Caylee was forced to be with casey, she cried for cynthia and that probably incensed casey anthony no end.

[kakax]

wow! this is nuts!!! with so much info coming out, i think it would be REALLY nice to have separate threads for all of these interviews/videos!!!

I'm getting overwhelmed..LOL!

[Rebel Rouzer]

I think she doesn't know where she is because she has no idea what landfill Caylee or as SHE calls HER "the little snothead" ended up in. I think that's why she's so adamant that she can HONESTLY say she doesn't know.

I'm still floored that there is evidence that someone in the home was researching missing children's websites in March. :cuss:

My theories until we get more information.

IF that is ONE part she is being honest about.
Landfil (Placed her in a dumpster not knowing where they dump at) , George (Contradictory statements and Casey's need to have special meeting with GA and information received about LE theory) or Wheel well of an airplane.Cell pings recorded near airport) (Like stowaways do and have been found dead after landing or never found from falling out during flight)

[happy2bme]

RX lunesta or ambian will cause sleepwalking, its one of the side effects....

It sure does...also cause you to eat half a cake and not know what happened to it the next morning.;)

[FrankieBones1]

Not correct, and this was included with the report.

"A keyword search for "Zenaida" revealed Web pages indicating that a user
searched the Internet for that name on July 16, 2008. Those entries were
bookmarked under the "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez" section of this report"

July 16th is when the searches were done.
Interesting. Did she see ZFG's name on the guest card first then went to look her up online?

[summer4meplz]

I almost skipped the computer forensics report because I thought it would be too complicated....two things, (so far)

In the report, it is stated that "a user" searched for zfg on 7.16.08...giving me the impression, they weren't talking about themselves...

and point 2.#12 on the report...it says that nothing relevant to this investigation was found on cindy's phone but a separate report was given to det. melich...so could that mean that things were found relevant to the murder investigation and that's what prompted them to generate a separate report to the detective?

anxiously awaiting part 2....

[margaritaville]

My theories until we get more information.

IF that is ONE part she is being honest about.
Landfil (Placed her in a dumpster not knowing where they dump at) , George (Contradictory statements and Casey's need to have special meeting with GA and information received about LE theory) or Wheel well of an airplane.Cell pings recorded near airport) (Like stowaways do and have been found dead after landing or never found from falling out during flight)

I work for an airline.....Trust me iif her body was put in the wheel well
it would have been found. Secondly, since 911 you are not going to be able to get to a wheel well........unless you work at the airport.

MOO

[GrannyB]

shame on her


Cindy Anthony gave some conflicting statements to investigators that day about Casey and also appeared to be in a hurry as they tried to establish a timeline in Caylee's disappearance.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html


This one got me. Caylee is missing, Casey's in jail and someone maybe a Chris returns a bag of Caylee's things to Cindy and she doesn't remember his name. Doesn't call LE. And people wonder why I suspect she is way more involved than others think. LE had to keep forcing her back to this. They finally told her this was the kind of thing they were interested in and then she really wasn't sure of his name.

[GinoA797]

No me too. My son did the same thing in Kmart. As soon as they called the code Adam I remember the pure fear and panic that went thru me. I know that people react differently in situations but Caseys behavior is not normal.


My son too, only mine was in Old Navy. When they closed the store I thought I was gonna die.....

[crymeariver2006]

'Documents reveal she visited missing children web sites as early as March. '

:eek:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html


:eek: is right!

Looking up different scenarios of how the children went missing?

Pick a story from one unsolved one and there's your script.

Disgusting.

[Snoopy50]

That is strange, so is the fact that they haven't aged Caylee on their own missing person site (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/), i am almost 3.

Is she always going to be almost 3 to them?

She will forever be "almost three" to everyone.:rose:

[day2day]

:eek: is right!

Looking up different scenarios of how the children went missing?

Pick a story from one unsolved one and there's your script.

Disgusting.

And if that doesn't work..
Toss in a fake nanny
An ex fiance
And sent three people to Peurto Rico and then claim the reason YOU can't go is you can't afford it..

hammer

[crymeariver2006]

I work for an airline.....Trust me iif her body was put in the wheel well
it would have been found. Secondly, since 911 you are not going to be able to get to a wheel well........unless you work at the airport.

MOO

Even before 9/11. No regular Joe would be able to get anywhere near a plane's underside without an escort from airport security or someone with the airline itself.

[Dogmatic]

I think she doesn't know where she is because she has no idea what landfill Caylee or as SHE calls HER "the little snothead" ended up in. I think that's why she's so adamant that she can HONESTLY say she doesn't know.

I'm still floored that there is evidence that someone in the home was researching missing children's websites in March. :cuss:

I agree. She expected the dumpster to be dumped and the car to be ripped off. Only one of the two things happened as planned, imo

[playnice]

:eek: is right!

Looking up different scenarios of how the children went missing?

Pick a story from one unsolved one and there's your script.

Disgusting.



Wonder if one of them was TD since he has never been found?

[Rebel Rouzer]

I work for an airline.....Trust me iif her body was put in the wheel well
it would have been found. Secondly, since 911 you are not going to be able to get to a wheel well........unless you work at the airport.

MOO

Or you are "Kickin it" with a security guard there.

I agree it's much harder to get near a plane. I hav friends who work at an airport. But there was a fella who was found deceased after 911 if i remember correctly from stowing away. I agree that last theory is probably very very UNLIKELY but it is one that i thought of when she said she didn't know where Caylee was and the cell pings showed bouncing off near the Airport. It was just a thought not very likely.

EDIT. When I used the word you I was meaning in general and directed toward Casey NOT you. Just clarifying.

[threesnugbugs]

At this point, I know Caylee is in a much better place and her early arrival to it, spared her years and years of pain. My mind has run wild thinking of her growing up with Casey and Cindy in her life---Caylee was spared the torment.

[day2day]

Wonder if one of them was TD since he has never been found?

You might be right. :(

[dtviewer]

Interesting. Did she see ZFG's name on the guest card first then went to look her up online?


No, the searches were done on JULY 16th. Probably by Cindy or Lee since that is who Casey said took Caylee.

[marshmallow]

I promise ONLY to throw marshmallows?!?! :D
Seriously- so many things bother me about this...i could make a long list...but it would take me days!!

Hey, don't throw me :D

I'm with you on so many things bothering me. I think I might start taking notes so I can check back with what tweaks my brain.

[margaritaville]

She complains that Jesse got a date wrong........Which she calls "changing his story 3 times" no Cindy he called you to tell you he was wrong about the date!!

How many times have YOU changed your story??
How many times has George changed his story??
How many times has CASEY changed her story??
How many times did Lee change his story??

GMAFB-- Casey told Cindy to "stay away from Jesse"
Well it was probably because he knew about all the men Casey was sleeping with and had Caylee over at and she doesn't want Cindy to know about it................Come on Cindy, pull your head out of your A--!


I hope Jesse Sues them...........Nothing but a bunch of LIARs the Anthony's are!!

[playnice]

Did you see the age progression of him the other night? He would be 4 now.

:rose:

yeah, a real little cutie.:rose:

[FrankieBones1]

No, the searches were done on JULY 16th. Probably by Cindy or Lee since that is who Casey said took Caylee.

I've been gone too long. For sure, July 16th means the family was doing the searching.

[day2day]

Hey, don't throw me :D

I'm with you on so many things bothering me. I think I might start taking notes so I can check back with what tweaks my brain.

LOL..i would NEVER toss you!! You are the best marshmallow i know!!
I really do think we need to take notes. There are so many things..
I bet LE is bangin their heads on the table trying to sort this mess out!

jmo :seeya:

[GrannyB]

No, the searches were done on JULY 16th. Probably by Cindy or Lee since that is who Casey said took Caylee.


The Anthony's didn't have the computer's on July 16, LE did.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf


On July 16, 2008 at approximately 2000 hours, Detective Charity Beasley of the
Orange County Sheriff's Office Domestic Violence Squad on behalf of Detective
Corporal Yuri Melich, submitted a Compaq Presario C300 laptop computer; serial
number CND6430RKH (with the power cord) and a Nokia RH-87 model 2610 cellular
telephone; IMEI# 011191/00/075157/2 to the Computer Crimes Lab for examination.

[kakax]

The computer search about ZFG, if anyone cares, I asked my brother in law who is a computer IT specialist or something like that...

Daniel private: Mike are you there?
michael: 'sup?
Daniel private: I have a question... when you do a yahoo or google search for example.... does each search you do become a temp file?
michael: No, the page is built dynamically and discarded unless you go to it then it may become cached in a form of temp file but not by default.
Daniel private: Ok, I am trying to understand this report could you explain to me briefly if it means it was created, cached or what on 6-12 and then accessed again on 7-16-08
Daniel private: Name: index.dat
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Accessed: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 04:20:12PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
Daniel private: it is a yahoo search
michael: it's a history file. Index.dat is the default profile file for IE. IT holds all of the locations that somebody has been too.
Daniel private: So does that in fact mean that it was indeed FIRST accesssed on the 6-12?
Daniel private: or could it be just a cache of other searches too on 6-12
michael: There should be a creation date in addition to the accessed date
Daniel private: Ok, im sorry. I am asking is that just a general file perhaps that all searches are added to or would it be unique file for what you were searching for?
michael: need something like this: http://www.softwarepatch.com/software/indexdat.html
Daniel private: Ok, im sorry. I am asking is that just a general file perhaps that all searches are added to or would it be unique file for what you were searching for?
michael: each file is maintained on a regular basis. A single search is not stored in a unique file.
michael: So a new file is not created for every search
Daniel private: oh ok
Daniel private: thanks
Daniel private: does that mean that particular page was viewed on 6-12 and again on 7-16?
michael: maybe
michael: get an index.dat viewer program and it'll tell you all you need to know.
Daniel private: I cant that is a forensic report from police about the missing Florida girl. I wish I could
Daniel private: what do you think it means?
michael: I don't have enought information. past that thing again.
Daniel private: Description: File, Archive
File Created: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Accessed: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 04:20:12PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
michael: So, created and explicitly accessed on 6/12, last used on 7/16 and probably contains a pretty good history of what happened between the two dates. Accessing the file and writing to the file are two different things. The history of the the browser between those two dates are in that file.
michael: You don't have to access a file to write to it. See, IE created the file and then had to make it accessible for writing at the same time, 6/12, then it was left open to write to it (history in, nothing out) until 7/16.
michael: Accessed in this case, means it was accessed by IE to prepare it to contain historical data for the next month.
michael: or so.
Daniel private: Ok



I hate to sound dumb, but I am in this matter. Can you summarize what all of that meant in dummy terms for me?

[Dogmatic]

Caylee was sold. It's not that hard to understand. Just like Trenton Duckett. The FBI needs to get involved in a child smuggling ring down in FLA. Glad I don't live there.

JMO.

Have to get past the maggots to swallow your theory. So far, I haven't been able to

[trt]

No it is not moot! Because it is just as you stated a hypothetical situation. No one actually knows the circumstances of Caylee's death except Casey.

But you used the hypothetical to tell a poster that they didn't know what they were talking about and as an explanation for Casey's behavior(i.e., why she could call cops for protesters and not her own daughter). JMO

[FrankieBones1]

Wow Dunnie, when was it proven Trenton was sold? There is no evidence of Caylee being sold. :rolleyes:
I don't think either child was sold. Come to think of it, both mothers have a lot in common.

[crymeariver2006]

Okay so Some guy named Chris brought over a bag of Caylees stuff.
That Casey left at his house.
Is he the only one that had any of her things? She didn't seem to have any at Tony's house...It sounded like there was a swim suit and hair things in there. Where are the rest of Caylees belongings?

He left many messages with LE and they never called him back :cuss:

Quit Lying Cindy Anthony!!!

Even they said nobody has called us that we haven't called back!!

Does "Chris" even exist?

:shrug:

[GrannyB]

Wasn't sure of his name, but she COULD remember an ex random girlfriend of Jesse's was a nanny.

Unbelievable.


Yes she did. I've only listened to the first hours. I don't know if I can stand hearing her for another hour.

[margaritaville]

Caylee was sold. It's not that hard to understand. Just like Trenton Duckett. The FBI needs to get involved in a child smuggling ring down in FLA. Glad I don't live there.

JMO.

Where is the money that Casey and Melinda got for selling their babies??

[FrankieBones1]

Have to get past the maggots to swallow your theory. So far, I haven't been able to

Good post but I'm getting nauseous. :)

[SavannahStar]

The computer search about ZFG, if anyone cares, I asked my brother in law who is a computer IT specialist or something like that...

Daniel private: Mike are you there?
michael: 'sup?
Daniel private: I have a question... when you do a yahoo or google search for example.... does each search you do become a temp file?
michael: No, the page is built dynamically and discarded unless you go to it then it may become cached in a form of temp file but not by default.
Daniel private: Ok, I am trying to understand this report could you explain to me briefly if it means it was created, cached or what on 6-12 and then accessed again on 7-16-08
Daniel private: Name: index.dat
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Accessed: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 04:20:12PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
Daniel private: it is a yahoo search
michael: it's a history file. Index.dat is the default profile file for IE. IT holds all of the locations that somebody has been too.
Daniel private: So does that in fact mean that it was indeed FIRST accesssed on the 6-12?
Daniel private: or could it be just a cache of other searches too on 6-12
michael: There should be a creation date in addition to the accessed date
Daniel private: Ok, im sorry. I am asking is that just a general file perhaps that all searches are added to or would it be unique file for what you were searching for?
michael: need something like this: http://www.softwarepatch.com/software/indexdat.html
Daniel private: Ok, im sorry. I am asking is that just a general file perhaps that all searches are added to or would it be unique file for what you were searching for?
michael: each file is maintained on a regular basis. A single search is not stored in a unique file.
michael: So a new file is not created for every search
Daniel private: oh ok
Daniel private: thanks
Daniel private: does that mean that particular page was viewed on 6-12 and again on 7-16?
michael: maybe
michael: get an index.dat viewer program and it'll tell you all you need to know.
Daniel private: I cant that is a forensic report from police about the missing Florida girl. I wish I could
Daniel private: what do you think it means?
michael: I don't have enought information. past that thing again.
Daniel private: Description: File, Archive
File Created: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Accessed: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 04:20:12PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
michael: So, created and explicitly accessed on 6/12, last used on 7/16 and probably contains a pretty good history of what happened between the two dates. Accessing the file and writing to the file are two different things. The history of the the browser between those two dates are in that file.
michael: You don't have to access a file to write to it. See, IE created the file and then had to make it accessible for writing at the same time, 6/12, then it was left open to write to it (history in, nothing out) until 7/16.
michael: Accessed in this case, means it was accessed by IE to prepare it to contain historical data for the next month.
michael: or so.
Daniel private: Ok


To me this reads that the TEMP file, the history file was created 6/12, does NOT mean the searches were done on 6/12. There is more in the file than just searches.

[dtviewer]

The Anthony's didn't have the computer's on July 16, LE did.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf


On July 16, 2008 at approximately 2000 hours, Detective Charity Beasley of the
Orange County Sheriff's Office Domestic Violence Squad on behalf of Detective
Corporal Yuri Melich, submitted a Compaq Presario C300 laptop computer; serial
number CND6430RKH (with the power cord) and a Nokia RH-87 model 2610 cellular
telephone; IMEI# 011191/00/075157/2 to the Computer Crimes Lab for examination.

LE took the computer at 2000 hours according to the report you just posted. That is 8 PM. All the searches were earlier than that.

:punch:

[Rebel Rouzer]

She complains that Jesse got a date wrong........Which she calls "changing his story 3 times" no Cindy he called you to tell you he was wrong about the date!!

How many times have YOU changed your story??
How many times has George changed his story??
How many times has CASEY changed her story??
How many times did Lee change his story??

GMAFB-- Casey told Cindy to "stay away from Jesse"
Well it was probably because he knew about all the men Casey was sleeping with and had Caylee over at and she doesn't want Cindy to know about it................Come on Cindy, pull your head out of your A--!


I hope Jesse Sues them...........Nothing but a bunch of LIARs the Anthony's are!!Agree with you on all that. She can't remember dates her Daughter consistantly lies about the last date she saw Caylee and she want's to throw a fir about Jesse being mistaken and then wanting to confirm the date so it helps show Caylee MAY have been alive on the 24th.

Why is Cindy so mad about him coming forth with that date? She is angry about that Date for a reason IMO. He admitted to being wrong about the Date. He actually helped Casey's case by changing it. She is protesting about that date too much for a reason IMO

[dtviewer]

To me this reads that the TEMP file, the history file was created 6/12, does NOT mean the searches were done on 6/12. There is more in the file than just searches.


Exactly what I was trying to explain.
The actual ZFG searches were on 7/16.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Wow Dunnie, when was it proven Trenton was sold? There is no evidence of Caylee being sold. :rolleyes:

It's a bit of a task to keep up with certain theories when the persons theories contradict themselves almost as soon as they spew them. IMO

[SavannahStar]

I don't think the "snot head" or "The Kid" thing really matters. I tease my kiddos sometimes too. Just this morning I said "good morning booger head" to my DS3 who appears to have a head cold today. He thought it was hysterical! Sometimes I have even joked to my friends and referred to my kids "the brats" or "the punks."

But I am IN LOVE with my children, we live a normal, happy family life, I have never exhibited any abusive behavior, or signs of a personality disorder.

There are plenty of other things that point to Casey probably wanting to get rid of Caylee.... or Caylee having an accident due to Casey's neglect, I just don't think the name Snot Head is one of them.

I totally agree.

[crymeariver2006]

No, the searches were done on JULY 16th. Probably by Cindy or Lee since that is who Casey said took Caylee.


Why, in the phone call (the one with the f'bombs and "huge waste" comment) is she once again spelling out Zenaida's name to see what Lee could find out about her?

If Cindy and/or Lee had just searched the computer a couple of days before?

[GrannyB]

Even though what you've said isn't 'politically correct,' I agree with you completely.


I've been thinking the same and figure if I said it it would be taken the wrong way but it is the truth.

[dtviewer]

There is no evidence of a murder either in either case. JMO. I know it's not the "popular" opinion here, and I dislike Casey as much as the rest of you guys do. I think those children were sold.

Both Mom's were in financial difficulty, and didn't give a rat's azz about their children. They were money hungry, and probably sold their kids.

JMO.


There is evidence of decomp in the trunk, there is hair that shows rings from decomp, and we have testified to decomp smell.

On the other hand we have a ridiculous disgusting made up 'child sold' theory with ZERO evidence.

I'll go with the reasonable theory with actual evidence everytime.......

[bballgrl]

The Anthony's didn't have the computer's on July 16, LE did.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf


On July 16, 2008 at approximately 2000 hours, Detective Charity Beasley of the
Orange County Sheriff's Office Domestic Violence Squad on behalf of Detective
Corporal Yuri Melich, submitted a Compaq Presario C300 laptop computer; serial
number CND6430RKH (with the power cord) and a Nokia RH-87 model 2610 cellular
telephone; IMEI# 011191/00/075157/2 to the Computer Crimes Lab for examination.

And if I remember correctly, the time on the 7/16 datestamp was something like 11:59 pm... soooooo, Casey and/or the Anthony's could NOT have searched ZFG on 7/16.. because LE had the computer.

This is why I hate computers....:rolleyes:

ETA: I checked back and the 7/16 date has a time of 4:20 PM.. so it must have been either Casey or Lee... Interesting - Why that day?

[Dogmatic]

There is no evidence of a murder either in either case. JMO. I know it's not the "popular" opinion here, and I dislike Casey as much as the rest of you guys do. I think those children were sold.

Both Mom's were in financial difficulty, and didn't give a rat's azz about their children. They were money hungry, and probably sold their kids.

JMO.

IMO, there is evidence of death:
1. dogs alerted on decomp
2. body farm air test positive for decomp
3. maggots on pizza boxes in trunk


I call that evidence.

[GrannyB]

I've got my headphones on listening to part one of Cindy's statement, but also reading about her relationship with the deputy, AR. It's obvious in early May that Caylee was a burden, and perhaps the wheels started turning then? If she's sleeping with AR in early May, and then is intimate with TonE in June 2nd -- do we know what happened or when the relationship with AR ended and why?

I am appalled, shocked, and saddened by the quotes below that I can't even repeat them. Hey Casey - a parents oath is to do no harm and break no spirit. You know, I became a mom a lot older than Casey (I'm 45 - my son is 11), so you can only imagine that at times, my beautiful son can be exhausting for me -- but I'd never let him know that.

And look at all the support she had from Cindy and George? How exhausting can it be? My husband is also very involved, but good Lord - she must be absolutely crazy of her mind if her motive is "she chose boys/sex over her beautiful daughter". Sounds like she drugged her too. What a biatchh!!!!!

Peace,

Melanie

Anthony Rusciano is the man she was having the affair with. He was the sheriff's deputy later fired for lying about the affair. Casey often talked about the sex.

"Sex is good with us, really good. And I know it's not the only reason you want to see me," she told Rusciano during the online exchange in early May.

"Good, I hope so, but Jesus, three-week droughts blow, so, again, bring your little fine *** over here," he wrote back.

It seems like Casey's daughter Caylee was the problem in the relationship.

"Ha, want me to bring the little snot head?" Casey asked Rusciano. "Didn't think so," she told him.

During the conversation, Casey often refereed to Caylee as "passed out." But what does passed out really mean? Eyewitness News has reported that chloroform was found in the trunk of Casey's car. Casey makes it clear her own daughter tires her out.

"Seriously, spending the day with Caylee is 10 times more exhausting than working a 12-hour event," she said.


I don't see a problem in May. Cindy said she had Caylee May and June most everyday.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Well then she sold her for free because there is no proof of any money from a sale. Casey's income was from stealing from her friends and family.

And who was the dead body in the car?

I have the answer. It's in your PM box though :seeya:

[day2day]

Appalling, isn't it? She's sitting across from detectives who are spending their entire lives at that point trying to unravel her daughter's lies, and she makes the statement that her lying daughter told her to stay away from Jesse. And she says it with a straight face.

hammer

Go figure. IMO they all know...she contradicted herself SO many times in that hour long interview. Now i know why they aren't out searching. They really DON'T want to find Caylee..and they don't want Tim to find her either...imo

:rose:

[margaritaville]

There is no evidence of a murder either in either case. JMO. I know it's not the "popular" opinion here, and I dislike Casey as much as the rest of you guys do. I think those children were sold.

Both Mom's were in financial difficulty, and didn't give a rat's azz about their children. They were money hungry, and probably sold their kids.

JMO.


Ok I will bite.......

Who was the dead person reeking up Casey's car?

Again where is the money they got for "selling their kids"???

[SavannahStar]

Exactly what I was trying to explain.
The actual ZFG searches were on 7/16.

Exactly. We've agreed on this all the way through.

[Acorn]

Does "Chris" even exist?

:shrug:

There's a Chris Stutz

His interview is interesting.

[steffaroob4]

Caylee was sold. It's not that hard to understand. Just like Trenton Duckett. The FBI needs to get involved in a child smuggling ring down in FLA. Glad I don't live there.

JMO.

Where is the money? You have to have a money transfer to sell something. I can never believe Trenton was sold, I believe a spitful witch tried to make it look like daddy did it.

[Dogmatic]

I've got my headphones on listening to part one of Cindy's statement, but also reading about her relationship with the deputy, AR. It's obvious in early May that Caylee was a burden, and perhaps the wheels started turning then? If she's sleeping with AR in early May, and then is intimate with TonE in June 2nd -- do we know what happened or when the relationship with AR ended and why?

I am appalled, shocked, and saddened by the quotes below that I can't even repeat them. Hey Casey - a parents oath is to do no harm and break no spirit. You know, I became a mom a lot older than Casey (I'm 45 - my son is 11), so you can only imagine that at times, my beautiful son can be exhausting for me -- but I'd never let him know that.

And look at all the support she had from Cindy and George? How exhausting can it be? My husband is also very involved, but good Lord - she must be absolutely crazy of her mind if her motive is "she chose boys/sex over her beautiful daughter". Sounds like she drugged her too. What a biatchh!!!!!

Peace,

Melanie

Anthony Rusciano is the man she was having the affair with. He was the sheriff's deputy later fired for lying about the affair. Casey often talked about the sex.

"Sex is good with us, really good. And I know it's not the only reason you want to see me," she told Rusciano during the online exchange in early May.

"Good, I hope so, but Jesus, three-week droughts blow, so, again, bring your little fine *** over here," he wrote back.

It seems like Casey's daughter Caylee was the problem in the relationship.

"Ha, want me to bring the little snot head?" Casey asked Rusciano. "Didn't think so," she told him.

During the conversation, Casey often refereed to Caylee as "passed out." But what does passed out really mean? Eyewitness News has reported that chloroform was found in the trunk of Casey's car. Casey makes it clear her own daughter tires her out.

"Seriously, spending the day with Caylee is 10 times more exhausting than working a 12-hour event," she said.


What a disgusting excuse for a parent. And Mr Rusciano is a knucklehead, imo

[Snoopy50]

I have read, watched and listened to much of the new stuff coming out and my head is spinning. One thing is VERY clear. Casey Anthony resented Caylee, and considered her a weight around her neck. She planned to dispose of her daughter, and she did. My current theory is that the baby ended up in a landfill, Casey let the clock tick for a month, knowing she was making it impossible for anyone to find Caylee's body. I am just so sick, I cannot imagine creating such a monster, because I believe that Cindy shares in this big time. She may not have murdered Caylee, but she did nothing to protect her grandbaby from the monster she had raised. I just cannot understand,.....doubt I ever will. Why the heck did that family not allow that baby to be adopted by the loving family who would have cherished her!!!:cuss:

[luvinlife]

Exactly what I was trying to explain.
The actual ZFG searches were on 7/16.



I agree IMO if the date was really June 12/08 we wouldn't see this info because it would imo relate to the premeditation of murder.

[GrannyB]

Go figure. IMO they all know...she contradicted herself SO many times in that hour long interview. Now i know why they aren't out searching. They really DON'T want to find Caylee..and they don't want Tim to find her either...imo

:rose:


I agree they don't want her found but why?

[crymeariver2006]

Agree with you on all that. She can't remember dates her Daughter consistantly lies about the last date she saw Caylee and she want's to throw a fir about Jesse being mistaken and then wanting to confirm the date so it helps show Caylee MAY have been alive on the 24th.

Why is Cindy so mad about him coming forth with that date? She is angry about that Date for a reason IMO. He admitted to being wrong about the Date. He actually helped Casey's case by changing it. She is protesting about that date too much for a reason IMO


6/24......isn't that the day that George claims Casey brought the gas cans back? Caylee wasn't with her, she was supposedly with "the nanny". What time did Jesse say that he talked with Casey?

[101Spots]

<<<BLAM>>>


Information overload. My fingers think my head just exploded.

Sorry about the mess.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Are you afraid to post it here? :shrug:


I don't have proof or a link so I'm allowed to take the answer to PM. :seeya:

[summer4meplz]

Does "Chris" even exist?

:shrug:

yes, i believe she's talking about Chris Stutz...the transcript of his interview was released today...iirc

[babblefishie]

:eek: is right!

Looking up different scenarios of how the children went missing?

Pick a story from one unsolved one and there's your script.

Disgusting.

YEP

Chloroform research, missing kid site searches, peoplefinder searches for Zenaida, texts laden with resentment for "snothead" aka CAYLEE. Casey planned this... She was likely hoping to destroy car, or have it stolen as others have mentioned, but parents picked it up too soon.

I gave her the benefit of the doubt, thinking she was a sociopath who drugged her kid to party. Now I think it's so much worse....
:eek:

[day2day]

I agree they don't want her found but why?

I have no doubt that Caylee will be found. When -i can't answer that.
The reason-they KNOW the truth will finally be told? At least one (if not more) of the Anthony's will be arrested and charged---all my opinion.

[Rebel Rouzer]

6/24......isn't that the day that George claims Casey brought the gas cans back? Caylee wasn't with her, she was supposedly with "the nanny". What time did Jesse say that he talked with Casey?

Exactly. I will have to go back and check the records for Jesse's time but George claims around or before he left for work at 1:30. :read:

[Dogmatic]

No body
No forensics
No motive.


No Body: correct

No Forensics: Incorrect hair with the decomp ring
maggots
body farm test
fluids

No Motive: Incorrect I see huge motives

a) no money (raising kids is expensive)
b) no job (needed to land a man to support her. hard to do when you have a toddler)
c) fight with parents (huge fight with parents. her only means of survival was going to be to land a guy with a job. she couldn't rely on her parents any more)
d) selfish (Casey has proven to be very selfish.

[SavannahStar]

I agree IMO if the date was really June 12/08 we wouldn't see this info because it would imo relate to the premeditation of murder.

Now that's an excellent point, luvinlife.

[~jomomma~]

IF there was a dead body in the car, LE would be on this like white on rice.

Maybe I can't wrap my arms around a mom putting her child in a garbage bag and letting her rot in the car. Nothing adds up here. Casey was a good mom, no she wasn't, yes she was. :shrug:

they HAVE been on it, haven't they???? :confused:

[margaritaville]

No body
No forensics
No motive.


No body

Yes forensics - just because you don't have them doesn't mean LE doesn't have them....

Yes motive - to be free from the snothead.

[crymeariver2006]

There's a Chris Stutz

His interview is interesting.

Snap! I had forgotten all about him. I need a spreadsheet! :D

I'm off to read it now.

[dtviewer]

And if I remember correctly, the time on the 7/16 datestamp was something like 11:59 pm... soooooo, Casey and/or the Anthony's could NOT have searched ZFG on 7/16.. because LE had the computer.

This is why I hate computers....:rolleyes:

ETA: I checked back and the 7/16 date has a time of 4:20 PM.. so it must have been either Casey or Lee... Interesting - Why that day?

;)............

[GrannyB]

OK I went back and read again and the Anthony's were doing th searching. From the report

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf


A keyword search for "Zenaida" revealed Web pages indicating that a user
searched the Internet for that name on July 16, 2008. Those entries were
bookmarked under the "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez" section of this report.

[5boxersmom]

Sure was alot of people in and out of little Caylee's life. So sad no one knew she was missing for over a month.:mad:

I think Casey was so jealous along with Caylee getting in the way of her love life. :rolleyes:

I guess everything is right now in the Anthony household. Casey got her mommy back.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[SavannahStar]

OK I went back and read again and the Anthony's were doing th searching. From the report

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0926/17564976.pdf


A keyword search for "Zenaida" revealed Web pages indicating that a user
searched the Internet for that name on July 16, 2008. Those entries were
bookmarked under the "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez" section of this report.

Yep! And that was posted pages ago. But I think some missed it. Thank you.

[margaritaville]

There's a Chris Stutz

His interview is interesting.


did he talk about bringing Cindy a bag of Caylee's clothes, by chance?

[Kathlb]

This is very damning evidence....




Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez
A keyword search for "Zenaida" was conducted on the HP desktop computer. The
following files are records of web pages indicating that someone was searching
for that name on the Internet.

Name: casey@www.reunion[2].txt
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 07/16/08 06:21:17AM
Last Accessed: 07/16/08 06:21:27AM
Last Written: 07/16/08 06:21:27AM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Cookies\casey@www.reunion[2].txt
zenaida


Name: history.dat
Description: File, Archive
File Created: 10/22/07 01:13:21PM
Last Accessed: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 12:03:24PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Application
Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\mfhaxjkl.default\his tory.dat
http://friends.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewfriends\ =203461948897ec12-9984-4944-b65e-
6dcef3d5a590=zenaida
Name: index.dat
Description: File, Archive


File Created: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Accessed: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 04:20:12PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
http://clk.atdmt.com/RUC/go/whtpgreu0210000164ruc/direct;at.rucreu00001670;ct.1/01?dispatch=show
SearchRegistration&action=peopleSearch_wp_resultcount&city=&mname=&peopleSearchFrom=wp&affiliate
id=131&searchFirstName=zenaida&searchLastName=Gonzalez&searchAge=25
Name: index.dat
Description: File, Archive


File Created: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Accessed: 06/12/08 11:15:29PM
Last Written: 07/16/08 04:20:12PM
Full Path: 08-069208\S013J10X237614\D\Documents and Settings\casey\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
http://preview.ussearch.com/preview/ala/newsearch?&searchLName=Fernandez&searchState=FL&searchCi
ty=jacksonville&searchFName=Zenaida&adID=303014F936&adsource=8&TID=0&cid=people&searchtab=people
·ð-·newsearch[2]


This is interesting and very condemning to Casey. It looks like the following to me...

1) First date of Oct. 22, 2007 is listed as the term "application" on myspace. The name Zaneida is listed. I don't know if she was trying to create a myspace page under the name Zaneida or if she was searching for that name there.

Second two:

2) Done on June 12, 2008 at 11:59 pm a people search was performed for Jacksonville (county, city, name and age) area and searching for Zaneida Gonzales.

3) Then at the same date and timestamp, a people search for County, City and mname (middle name?) for Fernandez ....Jacksonville.

4) Last one: On July 16, 2008, at Reunion.com. Looks due to the email casey@reunion.com, like Casey was looking for someone there with the name of Zaneida.

JMHO/MOO

[Rebel Rouzer]

Cindy Anthony Video part 2 is up

[GrannyB]

[QUOTE=GrannyB;12189715]snipped for space



I will if you think that would help, but that part is missing the dates. :shrug:


I went back and read again and posted from the report


Someone in the Anthony home did search on 7/16.

If I remember correctly Cindy did say she and Casey spent a lot of time on the computer and didn't really get to talk much during that time.

[jammies]

Reading the Tow Manager.....the dumpster....jammies/flipflops/ going through the dumpster............about had a heart attack!!!

OMG Had to stop and take a break when Melich says "That's ok....I got it" Holy cow............... thump thump thump

[cuddlyrunner]

so IF this Chris delivered a bag of Caylee's clothes to Cindy after it was discovered that Caylee was missing , would he not have been caught on camera by the media which was camped outside?

[dtviewer]

No body
No forensics
No motive.

Guess you have missed the last 2 months of conversation and evidence Dunnie.

Body: Still Searching.
Forensics: Plenty
Motive: Take your pick.

Just because you CHOOSE to ignore the evidence to further your ridiculous disgusting theories doesnt mean others need to.....

[~jomomma~]

casey's friends went to G & C house and had powwow's??

was that after casey was arrested? i missed what she said.

[EGirl]

There is no evidence of a murder either in either case. JMO. I know it's not the "popular" opinion here, and I dislike Casey as much as the rest of you guys do. I think those children were sold.

Both Mom's were in financial difficulty, and didn't give a rat's azz about their children. They were money hungry, and probably sold their kids.

JMO.

What part of 'decomp' is so hard for you to understand? :rolleyes:

[need2no]

I've got my headphones on listening to part one of Cindy's statement, but also reading about her relationship with the deputy, AR. It's obvious in early May that Caylee was a burden, and perhaps the wheels started turning then? If she's sleeping with AR in early May, and then is intimate with TonE in June 2nd -- do we know what happened or when the relationship with AR ended and why?

I am appalled, shocked, and saddened by the quotes below that I can't even repeat them. Hey Casey - a parents oath is to do no harm and break no spirit. You know, I became a mom a lot older than Casey (I'm 45 - my son is 11), so you can only imagine that at times, my beautiful son can be exhausting for me -- but I'd never let him know that.

And look at all the support she had from Cindy and George? How exhausting can it be? My husband is also very involved, but good Lord - she must be absolutely crazy of her mind if her motive is "she chose boys/sex over her beautiful daughter". Sounds like she drugged her too. What a biatchh!!!!!

Peace,

Melanie

Anthony Rusciano is the man she was having the affair with. He was the sheriff's deputy later fired for lying about the affair. Casey often talked about the sex.

"Sex is good with us, really good. And I know it's not the only reason you want to see me," she told Rusciano during the online exchange in early May.

"Good, I hope so, but Jesus, three-week droughts blow, so, again, bring your little fine *** over here," he wrote back.

It seems like Casey's daughter Caylee was the problem in the relationship.

"Ha, want me to bring the little snot head?" Casey asked Rusciano. "Didn't think so," she told him.

During the conversation, Casey often refereed to Caylee as "passed out." But what does passed out really mean? Eyewitness News has reported that chloroform was found in the trunk of Casey's car. Casey makes it clear her own daughter tires her out.

"Seriously, spending the day with Caylee is 10 times more exhausting than working a 12-hour event," she said.



"Seriously, spending the day with Caylee is 10 times more exhausting than working a 12-hour event," she said.

How would Casey know...I seriously doubt she ever worked a 12 hour day at any job.

[luvinlife]

uuuuuuggggggg the first video worked for me now this one doesn't. any suggestions TIA

[martha]

I have read, watched and listened to much of the new stuff coming out and my head is spinning. One thing is VERY clear. Casey Anthony resented Caylee, and considered her a weight around her neck. She planned to dispose of her daughter, and she did. My current theory is that the baby ended up in a landfill, Casey let the clock tick for a month, knowing she was making it impossible for anyone to find Caylee's body. I am just so sick, I cannot imagine creating such a monster, because I believe that Cindy shares in this big time. She may not have murdered Caylee, but she did nothing to protect her grandbaby from the monster she had raised. I just cannot understand,.....doubt I ever will. Why the heck did that family not allow that baby to be adopted by the loving family who would have cherished her!!!:cuss:ITA with you. you or so right and it just breaks my heart to know this baby was not in a good home where everyone loved her. Why oh why did they not let someone have her that would have loved her and took real good care of her. I think the whole a's family should be blamed for what has happened. jmho:rose:

[need2no]

casey's friends went to G & C house and had powwow's??

was that after casey was arrested? i missed what she said.

Yes, and it occurred after one of the vigils.

[dtviewer]

Didn't Cindy and Casey spend considerable time on the computer(s) before Casey was actually arrested and taken away? Wouldn't it make sense that Cindy was looking for info on ZFG? Or am I confused?

You are 100% correct.
It was almost certainly Cindy or Lee.

[Fallen Angel]

Caylee was sold. It's not that hard to understand. Just like Trenton Duckett. The FBI needs to get involved in a child smuggling ring down in FLA. Glad I don't live there.

JMO.

then why doesn't casey say caylee was sold ?

[margaritaville]

Even Kobalinski has signed up with the defense.

So far the body farm is "junk science" and won't hold up in a court of law. The black band on the hair means nothing.... so the hair was decomposing (aka hair folllicle). Chloroform.... partying by a bunch of Casey's stupid friends. The time line sucks.... and there is no proof that Casey murdered her child.

Cadaver dogs..... also not credible. I know some will blast me on that one....dog lovers, etc. But it just won't hold up in court.

JMO.


LOL-- People said the same thing with the Scott Peterson trial...

No evidence, blah blah...........you will be amazed by what WILL be admissable and how the jury will put things together.
The dogs were believed in Scott's trial?!!!

[GrannyB]

Reading the Tow Manager.....the dumpster....jammies/flipflops/ going through the dumpster............about had a heart attack!!!

OMG Had to stop and take a break when Melich says "That's ok....I got it" Holy cow............... thump thump thump


He sure did. He was more worried about a little girl than her own relatives. They haven't started knocking on all those doors Cindy claimed she was going to let alone climbed in a dumpster to look for her.
They are a disgrace to the human race. Heck they aren't human.

[kOOkie1]

The documents released today also include a computer conversation with drug references between Anythony and two other people.

When someone wrote that "I can hit up my friend annie for some xanax,'' Anthony replied: "we'd be a good time"


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-caylee-documents-092608,0,6419224.story?page=3

..I dont recall reading that anyone else?

[bchand]

There's a Chris Stutz

His interview is interesting.

Yes it was. Can't you just imagine those little pow wows in Cindy's house?

"Well I slept with Casey this and this and this night, and I slept with Casey this night, then not for a month, and I slept with Casey all this month, etc, etc."

BUT it wasn't in Cindy's home, so no rules to follow.

[aubrey04]

IMO, there is evidence of death:
1. dogs alerted on decomp
2. body farm air test positive for decomp
3. maggots on pizza boxes in trunk


I call that evidence.

4. Hair consistent with Caylee's tested positive for decomp

[~jomomma~]

uuuuuuggggggg the first video worked for me now this one doesn't. any suggestions TIA

which one? LOL!!

i just got done watching cindy's first one

i'm just trying to figure out what all came out today!!!! :o

[Rebel Rouzer]

Even Kobalinski has signed up with the defense.

So far the body farm is "junk science" and won't hold up in a court of law. The black band on the hair means nothing.... so the hair was decomposing (aka hair folllicle). Chloroform.... partying by a bunch of Casey's stupid friends. The time line sucks.... and there is no proof that Casey murdered her child.

Cadaver dogs..... also not credible. I know some will blast me on that one....dog lovers, etc. But it just won't hold up in court.

JMO.Kobi admitted on Fox news. He has not seen any facts yet he was asked to sign on before ever seing the forensic results by the FBI lab or the Body farm.

Cadaver dog evidence has been help up in many cases and allowed in. Westerfield for one.

Obviously the facts have escaped you or you didn't read/listen to them. IMO

[kOOkie1]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

pt 2 Cindy

(...just passin link along)

[GrannyB]

casey's friends went to G & C house and had powwow's??

was that after casey was arrested? i missed what she said.

Yes after she was arrested and one of them returned a bag of Caylee's things.

[Dogmatic]

Even Kobalinski has signed up with the defense.

So far the body farm is "junk science" and won't hold up in a court of law. The black band on the hair means nothing.... so the hair was decomposing (aka hair folllicle). Chloroform.... partying by a bunch of Casey's stupid friends. The time line sucks.... and there is no proof that Casey murdered her child.

Cadaver dogs..... also not credible. I know some will blast me on that one....dog lovers, etc. But it just won't hold up in court.

JMO.

No problem. You are entitled to your opinion

[need2no]

I bet Casey was just thrilled when Cindy would call her everyday on her way home from work to chat and ask what CAYLEE had done all day.


Then Cindy goes on that she AND Casey would bathe and get Caylee ready for bed after dinner....so....how many hours a week did Cindy think Casey was putting in at the event planning job?

[happy2bme]

which one? LOL!!

i just got done watching cindy's first one

i'm just trying to figure out what all came out today!!!! :o

Talking about who Caylee's daddy is. Keep in my this is Cindy so ...well you know.

[~jomomma~]

I haven't missed anything. Can a jury convict her? Can she be charged? If so, why hasn't it happened?

Lots of questions. Answer those for me.:shrug:

just give it a little longer

what are LE suppose to do? go into it without their guns loaded??

it'll happen ;)

[SavannahStar]

No problem. You are entitled to your opinion


:beer: I was waiting for someone to post something non-ridiculing to dunnie, since she has a very differing opinion from the majority.

[Dogmatic]

When we had bodies, it all came together. This case has no body, so far.

JMO.

Just to keep an open mind though Dunnie: hair does not decompose. a body does. when a body decomposes and then a hair falls off that body, the hair will show it came from a decomposing body. If the hair falls off a live person, the hair won't EVER show signs of decomp.

just food for thought

[babblefishie]

This is interesting and very condemning to Casey. It looks like the following to me...

1) First date of Oct. 22, 2007 is listed as the term "application" on myspace. The name Zaneida is listed. I don't know if she was trying to create a myspace page under the name Zaneida or if she was searching for that name there.

Second two:

2) Done on June 12, 2008 at 11:59 pm a people search was performed for Jacksonville (county, city, name and age) area and searching for Zaneida Gonzales.

3) Then at the same date and timestamp, a people search for County, City and mname (middle name?) for Fernandez ....Jacksonville.

4) Last one: On July 16, 2008, at Reunion.com. Looks due to the email casey@reunion.com, like Casey was looking for someone there with the name of Zaneida.

JMHO/MOO

AND Jacksonville is where she had told Cindy she was.... If she hadn't been caught by Amy and Cindy she might have continued to try and convince Cindy of that.

[margaritaville]

When we had bodies, it all came together. This case has no body, so far.

JMO.


Nope, no body......... but a decomposing body was in the trunk........

Either she had Caylee in there or some other dead person.

It has already come out it is human decomp in the trunk.........

[aubrey04]

We are well over 1,000 posts - so I created a new thread for the afternoon/early evening:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12189993#post12189993

[Dogmatic]

:beer: I was waiting for someone to post something non-ridiculing to dunnie, since she has a very differing opinion from the majority.

Learned my lesson on Cynthia Sommers. Dunnie is smart to question all evidence.

[margaritaville]

Hope all those kids got to a doctor shortly after they compared notes.

Ugh.

Oh no kidding!! I never even thought of that...........yuk!!!!!!!!!

:eek:barf

[anyonesguess]

I can't get over this......

It seems like Casey's daughter Caylee was the problem in the relationship.
"Ha, want me to bring the little snot head?" Casey asked Rusciano. "Didn't think so," she told him.
During the conversation, Casey often refereed to Caylee as "passed out." But what does passed out really mean? Eyewitness News has reported that chloroform was found in the trunk of Casey's car. Casey makes it clear her own daughter tires her out.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

She's going away for a long time.... if she isn't executed. :eek::eek:

There was the night that TonE said that Casey was in the bed when they went to sleep but wasn't when they woke up, and Casey said she took her home. I am having doubts about that. I think for whatever reason, she might have put her in the trunk that night to sleep. :mad:

[kakax]

No body
No forensics
No motive.

Have you seen this?


Anthony Could Face Charges In Daughter's Disappearance In Weeks


http://www.wesh.com/news/17563488/detail.html

According to other sources, lab tests have been ongoing as recently as this week to "triple check" that evidence. Investigators said they're confident those tests will provide "iron-clad proof" that Caylee's body was in the trunk of the car, how her body was positioned and that strands of her hair fell out after she died.

Investigators have also confirmed that high levels of chloroform were in the trunk, and they said they're close to determining the dates someone researched chloroform on Anthony's computer before Caylee disappeared.

One investigator said there's still a critical element missing: a definite motive and criminal intent for why Caylee's body got in the trunk.

When asked about the possibility that Caylee was buried in the back yard of the family's home, investigators said they believe if the toddler's body was there, it was later moved, and after a thorough investigation of the yard, they believe it was unnecessary to dig there.

[kakax]

There was the night that TonE said that Casey was in the bed when they went to sleep but wasn't when they woke up, and Casey said she took her home. I am having doubts about that. I think for whatever reason, she might have put her in the trunk that night to sleep. :mad:

I think that was Jesse?

[bchand]

The documents released today also include a computer conversation with drug references between Anythony and two other people.

When someone wrote that "I can hit up my friend annie for some xanax,'' Anthony replied: "we'd be a good time"


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-caylee-documents-092608,0,6419224.story?page=3

..I dont recall reading that anyone else?


kOOkie - I haven't read anything like that yet either.

I'm at work alone and have spent most of the day reading.

Bet Good Ole Annie feels funny about that right about now though.

[~jomomma~]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

pt 2 Cindy

(...just passin link along)

thank you!!!! :seeya:

[need2no]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

pt 2 Cindy

(...just passin link along)


Thanks for the link...I've got sound but no picture like in PART I, anybody having this problem?

[SavannahStar]

There was the night that TonE said that Casey was in the bed when they went to sleep but wasn't when they woke up, and Casey said she took her home. I am having doubts about that. I think for whatever reason, she might have put her in the trunk that night to sleep. :mad:


IIRC that wasn't Tony, it was another guy and the timeframe was way back earlier this year.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Cindy admits Casey LIED about GA having stroke.

[steffaroob4]

Yes it was. Can't you just imagine those little pow wows in Cindy's house?

"Well I slept with Casey this and this and this night, and I slept with Casey this night, then not for a month, and I slept with Casey all this month, etc, etc."

BUT it wasn't in Cindy's home, so no rules to follow.

Funny she remembered Chris's phone number, and tried to call him from jail.

[happy2bme]

Cindy said Casey told her that Caylee and Juliet's child stayed with Zanny at the hard rock hotel after june 16 until 20th.

[margaritaville]

I disagree. What proof do we have there was decomp in the trunk? The hair band or the smell? Doesn't work for me. JMO.

According to other sources, lab tests have been ongoing as recently as this week to "triple check" that evidence. Investigators said they're confident those tests will provide "iron-clad proof" that Caylee's body was in the trunk of the car, how her body was positioned and that strands of her hair fell out after she died.


http://www.wesh.com/news/17563488/detail.html

[anyonesguess]

IIRC that wasn't Tony, it was another guy and the timeframe was way back earlier this year.

Doesn't matter imo SS. I believe she was placing Caylee in the trunk of the car for quite some time, when it it was a CONVENIENCE FOR Casey.

[bchand]

Funny she remembered Chris's phone number, and tried to call him from jail.

and didn't get through right? Odd he said he called his parents to ask what to do if she called back. These guys were apparently scared at this point.

[babblefishie]

Doesn't matter imo SS. I believe she was placing Caylee in the trunk of the car for quite some time, when it it was a CONVENIENCE FOR Casey.

Sadly I agree....

[~jomomma~]

Thanks for the link...I've got sound but no picture like in PART I, anybody having this problem?

i've got a smaller picture but it is still buffering

[Kathlb]

It is confusing but I tried to explain it here: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12189633#post12189633

I wrote this before I saw yours., ;-) Thanks!!!

[Rebel Rouzer]

Cindy says.

She knew Casey and Caylee were there and in bed because the door was shut. Then she says Casey told her she was crashing at Zanny's the night of the 15th.

Ok she is confusing me. she just contradicted what casey was doing the night of the 15th and. Maybe she is confusing dates again. :confused:

[Kathlb]

Do you think they will come out with Cindy's videos in a format that we can download? This is so bad I'd like to put them in my player and adjust the settings.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Cindy said Casey told her that Caylee and Juliet's child stayed with Zanny at the hard rock hotel after june 16 until 20th.

Cindy never met Juliette or Zanny or Jennifer. :read:

This is interesting.

[need2no]

Baby dad is a one night stand...old friend from school...his name is Eric, she thinks. He lives out of state...lives in either Tenn. or Kentucky, Cindy has never met him. Eric was married by the time Caylee was born. Eric contacted Casey about a year ago, said he may be moving to FL, and at some point down the road he might like to be friends with Casey and at some point introduce Caylee to his son, her half brother.

Why does Cindy keep saying alimony instead of CHILD SUPPORT?

Why does Cindy have to go back and look here, there, and everywhere or check with someone else for answers to the detectives questions...it's getting on my last nerve!

[happy2bme]

I am not friggin believeing these lies......Zanny was in a wreck and has a concussion?

[GrannyB]

Jesse asked George and Cindy for Casey's hand in marriage and Cindy doesn't like him. Say he has strong opinions. You can bet she wouldn't like that.

[bchand]

Thanks for the link...I've got sound but no picture like in PART I, anybody having this problem?

I tested it just for you :tongue: and it's working fine for me.

I just can't bear to watch part 2 right now. I'll do it later tonight.

[SavannahStar]

Doesn't matter imo SS. I believe she was placing Caylee in the trunk of the car for quite some time, when it it was a CONVENIENCE FOR Casey.

I don't see any evidence to support that, but hey everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[msgatorslayer]

Cindy said Casey told her that Caylee and Juliet's child stayed with Zanny at the hard rock hotel after june 16 until 20th.

:lol: Staying at the Hard Rock Hotel to nanny sit. That's rich!!!

[Rebel Rouzer]

Are you finally getting it? :shrug:

I'll refrain from answering this on the grounds it may be a bannable offense to answer HONESTLY :read:

[happy2bme]

I am not friggin believeing these lies......Zanny was in a wreck and has a concussion?


Cindy is giving GREAT detail....

[MichelleP]

When we had bodies, it all came together. This case has no body, so far.

JMO.

So you believe she was sold yet there is no evidence of one? There is more evidence to say that she is dead than there is that she is alive even if you say it wouldn't hold up in court.

She's not on trial yet.

[need2no]

Eric died, his widow contacted Casey. Cindy saying she saw the obit.
Cindy says he died out of state...said she never heard of Ortiz, or how all that started about him being baby daddy.

[Broderick]

No, the searches were done on JULY 16th. Probably by Cindy or Lee since that is who Casey said took Caylee.

That is exactly what I thought. She gave that name to detectives and immediately the family went on their own investigation.

[GrannyB]

Now she knows who the Caylee's father is. Oh wait a minute it was Eric and 3 minutes later she thinks his name is Eric.

[kOOkie1]

kOOkie - I haven't read anything like that yet either.

I'm at work alone and have spent most of the day reading.

Bet Good Ole Annie feels funny about that right about now though.


..yea i bet!!

[Rebel Rouzer]

OMG The lies that Casey told Cindy are unreal. Zanny and Juliette injured etc. Unreal

[crymeariver2006]

yes, i believe she's talking about Chris Stutz...the transcript of his interview was released today...iirc


I read his statement just now.

Funny, he doesn't mention a thing about having any of Caylee's clothes or that he ever gave any back to Cindy that Casey had left over at his house.

In fact, I got the impression that they were just casual friends 'cause he was away at school and had only returned home in late May(?) for summer break.

Either Cindy is mistaken about the clothes he brought over, or there was somebody else that brought over clothes, or there were never any of Caylee's clothes that were not accounted for on 6/15 - 7/15.

[summer4meplz]

I think that was Jesse?

iirc,,, it wasn't tony or jesse,,,it was ricardo....geeez...what a lowlife...

[Dogmatic]

Thanks. I "followed" the majority in Cynthia Sommers and she's out now. I learned my lesson big time on that one. Some may hate me or dislike me, but that's not the point of this board. :seeya:

I will "question" to find Caylee's whereabouts. Might not lead me anywhere..... but I will still question until we find justice, if we ever do.

JMO.

There are simliarities:

IMO, Cynthia was a horrible mother
Cynthia was self centered and spent too much $ on herself
Cynthia was emotionally detached in her responses to tragedy
Therefore, she appeared to be the perp. In reality, she was what she was, but she wasn't a murderer

Casey reminds me of her.

I'm open to all possibilities at this point.

[bchand]

Jesse asked George and Cindy for Casey's hand in marriage and Cindy doesn't like him. Say he has strong opinions. You can't bet she wouldn't like that.

From the small part I just watched, she also bad-mouthed Jesse's Dad but I didn't get the words she used because they talk over each other.

She either said he's a loud mouth or foul mouthed.

[spiritwolf46]

but time after time we have heard about how horrible that smell was in the trunk of that car.

Just trying to think of this makes me sad, sick, angry and I feel such a great loss for Caylee, even though I have never met that little precious angel.

I just cannot phathom being able to go on with my life in the manner that the Anthony's have. Just knowing that if it were my granddaughter that perhaps was in that car, decomposing would be enough for me to WANT to see my daughter in jail and NEVER get out. This little girl did not deserve what she got. This little girl never did anything wrong. This little girl could not defend herself from the evils of her so called mother.

I just cannot believe what I see from that family day after day after day. WTH is wrong with these people!?!? They scare the holy HE77 OUT ME! All of them do!

Thanks for letting me vent. I have been reading the docs and watching some of the videos and I truly do not believe there is one ounce of "normal" to one of these family members.

JMO, of course.

[Roux]

I'm listening to Part 2 of Cindy and it is mind blowing all the details regarding the Tampa trip -- Juliette, Raquel, Zanny, cars, accidents, hotel rooms, etc. and etc.! How in the world could Cindy swallow this hook line and sinker? Unbelievable.

[happy2bme]

OMG The lies that Casey told Cindy are unreal. Zanny and Juliette injured etc. Unreal

How does she keep up with all the damn lies?

[need2no]

I tested it just for you :tongue: and it's working fine for me.

I just can't bear to watch part 2 right now. I'll do it later tonight.


Thanks for checking bchand...I've just got a big green square on the screen, probably easier on the eyes than looking at Cindy. :D

I so understand postponing listening to this part....did you see my post upthread about the baby daddy?

[BANJO GRANNY]

Hope all those kids got to a doctor shortly after they compared notes.

Ugh.
I hope they had sense enough to double up on condoms when they was with her IMO



:rose:For Baby Caylee

[dtviewer]

I haven't missed anything. Can a jury convict her? Can she be charged? If so, why hasn't it happened?

Lots of questions. Answer those for me.:shrug:

I dont see what you are having such a hard time understanding.

When LE decides they are ready to arrest her, they will. Same as every other case ever before this one.

This isnt rocket science...........

[bballgrl]

Cindy said Casey told her that Caylee and Juliet's child stayed with Zanny at the hard rock hotel after june 16 until 20th.


How did CA think that Casey was paying for all this? 24 Hour daycare is expensive and to have that child stay at a hotel with the nanny is just so far fetched!!! I couldn't afford that and I actually have a job!!!

[bchand]

Thanks for checking bchand...I've just got a big green square on the screen, probably easier on the eyes than looking at Cindy. :D

I so understand postponing listening to this part....did you see my post upthread about the baby daddy?

No, I think someone mentioned an Eric? I haven't gotten to that part yet BUT before the tape was put on in the first interview I heard Cindy saying she didn't know "Brandon's" last night but Sean Daly would know since they were best friends.

We know from other documents with the friends that Brandon was the one Casey supposedly had the miscarriage with. I wonder if Cindy knew about that?

Some many men, so little time !!

[Rebel Rouzer]

How does she keep up with all the damn lies?


OMG She is so detailed in the lies she told her mother to keep from her talking to Caylee who as most of us KNOW was gone then. :eek:

[GrannyB]

She's so busy tossing out UNIMPORTANT NONSENSE that there's no way she can focus on actual facts and dates. She makes me sick to my stomach.



Cindy doesn't want anyone to focus on important stuff.

[happy2bme]

She also contradicted herself since she has claimed she tucked them both in bed on the night of the 15th of June.

Good catch Sharky! I forget about that.

[dtviewer]

Learned my lesson on Cynthia Sommers. Dunnie is smart to question all evidence.


I'll refrain from the clinking glasses until Dunnie produces even the slightest, smallest piece of evidence that Caylee might have been sold in some sort of 'child smuggling ring'.

Until then I will follow the evidence and the most reasonable conlusions...

[GrannyB]

Geeez she one for the books. She went to file for divorce and gave the papers to George and he filed them and that's why she got served.
Lord she can't even admit the man wanted to dump her. She has got to be the one in control. :rolleyes:

[happy2bme]

Now Zanny dated Jeff. They broke up and Casey started dating Jeff? Good grief!

[dtviewer]

I disagree. What proof do we have there was decomp in the trunk? The hair band or the smell? Doesn't work for me. JMO.


Like I have said. You are welcome to choose to ignore any and all evidence if that is what it takes to further your theory that has zero evidence.

Thats your choice.

[happy2bme]

Cindy thinks "Zanny" is either Amy or Jesse? This woman has lost it.

[Tessie]

Did you all read Anthony Rusciano's interview? Casey refers to Caylee as a snot head. :( I think that is sad or maybe I am reading too much into it. I just would never call my child a snot head, maybe a sibling when I was younger, but not my baby.


I'm waaay behind. I agree, it's probably exactly how she feels being a mom.
I can't even imagine that being a joke of any sort.

[summer4meplz]

let;s all move over....don't want to miss a post.....

[need2no]

No, I think someone mentioned an Eric? I haven't gotten to that part yet BUT before the tape was put on in the first interview I heard Cindy saying she didn't know "Brandon's" last night but Sean Daly would know since they were best friends.

We know from other documents with the friends that Brandon was the one Casey supposedly had the miscarriage with. I wonder if Cindy knew about that?

Some many men, so little time !!

Tom, Dick, Harry, Brandon, Tony, TonE, Ricardo, Chris, William. etc....
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :eek:


And let me just toss in this little reminder about the baby daddy:


Anthony's brother, Lee, told FOX News on Tuesday that the Anthonys were deliberately withholding the name of Caylee's deceased dad, since he and his family were never told he had fathered the little girl.
"We will never release the name of that person or his family out of respect for that family," Lee Anthony said. "The family was never aware that he was the father."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398005,00.html

I'm going to have to listen to this PART 2 at least a dozen times to make sense of all these people and all this dates and events....geez...what a confusing convoluted mess!

[Rebel Rouzer]

OMG She really is something else. This is incredibe.

:eek:

[Tessie]

OK, XChris stutz says she came by on 7/17 w/o Caylee...driving a dark Suv ( jeep cherokee) w/ NY plates ( I'd assume thats Anthony/TonE's?)....maybe the 17th. 18th, or 19th...geesh! another guy she had waiting in the wings..interesting that he thinks he saw her running on the 15th of July, and even texts her but she denies it. I wouldn't text someone about seeing them unless i was fairly sure, could be nothing though.
JMo...those things stand out in his interview


I really want to know where Casey was the time span of the (June) 16th to the 30th...She has already told this Chris guy that she had had car trouble.

[need2no]

Geeez she one for the books. She went to file for divorce and gave the papers to George and he filed them and that's why she got served.
Lord she can't even admit the man wanted to dump her. She has got to be the one in control. :rolleyes:

:biggrin: yep, so true.

[mattncats]

Caylee was sold. It's not that hard to understand. Just like Trenton Duckett. The FBI needs to get involved in a child smuggling ring down in FLA. Glad I don't live there.

JMO.

You really don't believe that , do you?

[Rebel Rouzer]

Last conversation with CAYLEE when she put her to bed but what the heck is this about Casey being somewhere else the night.

Then she says she has a theory why Casey made up the whole story.

She said she needs another hour but only has 20 more minutes.

[crymeariver2006]

I'm listening to Part 2 of Cindy and it is mind blowing all the details regarding the Tampa trip -- Juliette, Raquel, Zanny, cars, accidents, hotel rooms, etc. and etc.! How in the world could Cindy swallow this hook line and sinker? Unbelievable.

When in reality, wasn't it Amy who wrecked her car and something about her nose being swollen?

[crymeariver2006]

Last conversation with CAYLEE when she put her to bed but what the heck is this about Casey being somewhere else the night.

Then she says she has a theory why Casey made up the whole story.

She said she needs another hour but only has 20 more minutes.

Wasn't that the interview where she had to leave because of an appointment with some media gig?

[luvinlife]

Wasn't that the interview where she had to leave because of an appointment with some media gig?

No it was a fundraiser. IIRC

[Rebel Rouzer]

Lol i love yuri!!!!

[Roux]

Lol i love yuri!!!!

Yay Yuri! He is confronting Cindy with her lies, but at the same time trying to be kind and considerate. And she just won't/refuses to acknowledge the truth.

[ruth66]

Goodness gracious! Cindy talking about the baby daddy and she says Casey doesn't want to let Caylee meet her half brother because she doesn't want to introduce Caylee to Eric and confuse her since a "daddy" has not been introduced.....but talking her to every boyfriend she has had in the last few months and actually sleeping with boyfriend is not going to confuse her......this just crazy....:shrug:

[bluwaters]

I'm listening to Part 2 of Cindy and it is mind blowing all the details regarding the Tampa trip -- Juliette, Raquel, Zanny, cars, accidents, hotel rooms, etc. and etc.! How in the world could Cindy swallow this hook line and sinker? Unbelievable.

I am at that part right now. Wow! Cindy remembers lots of details about the trip with all of these imaginary people. Amazing, and yet she was not able to provide the last name of "Eric" Caylee's supposed deceased father. She didn't know the last name of many of Casey's friends, the ones she has met and do in fact exist.

[kakax]

Ricardo I am pretty sure


Ugh that's who I meant ... I swear, all these names to keep up with.

[Rebel Rouzer]

OMG Casey Borrowed Cindy's green truck The day of the gas can incodent. WOW
GA admitted it.:eek:

Then Casey started the story about Dad hitting somethign witht he car.

Holy Moley.

[FrankieBones1]

This thread is now closed. There has been another new one opened.

Thanks!

[Rebel Rouzer]

Plz somebody what are ya'll listening to?

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

[Elle]

From the small part I just watched, she also bad-mouthed Jesse's Dad but I didn't get the words she used because they talk over each other.

She either said he's a loud mouth or foul mouthed.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=85212505

his latest blog located in the upper right hand corner is about his beautiful dog Sammy( who died in december 06) and Caylee. If you have not read his other entries they are really good.

[kakax]

Documents released Friday September 26, 2008


PHOTO GALLERY: Casey Anthony wearing an American flag at a party
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608caseywearingflag/indexGallery.htm


Letter Casey Anthony wrote to Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary on August 14, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608lettertosheriff/indexGallery.htm


Evidence and incident reports related to Casey Anthony case
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608evidence/indexGallery.htm

Instant messages between Casey Anthony and "nyitaliano3"
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608instantmessages/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of jail call between Cindy and Casey on July 18, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608jailcall/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Christopher Stutz June 30, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608christopherstutz/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Karen Angel, July 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608karenangel/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Shirley Plesea, July 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608shirleyplesea/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Jonathan Daly on July 17, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608jonathandaly/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Matthew Crisp on July 17, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608matthewcrisp/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Sean Daly on July 17, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608deandaly/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Maria Kissh on July 17, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608mariakissh/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Danny Colamarino on July 17, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608dannycolamarino/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Nicole Lett on July 24, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608nicolelett/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Gary Ridgeway on July 24, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608garyridgeway/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Jeffrey Hopkins, Jr. on July 24, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608jeffreyhopkins/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Mike Kozak on July 30, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608mikekozak/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Simon Burch on July 30, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608simonburch/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Anthony Rusciano on August 18, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608anthonyrusciano/indexGallery.htm

Transcript of interview by Orange County Sheriff Investigators with Jamie Realander on August 19, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608jamierealander/indexGallery.htm

[Acorn]

Gawd! No wonder Cindy would refuse a polygraph.

She fibs when they corner her: can't recall what she said to Amy, the money from the wallet incident was witnessed by LE (Lee said no officer present at that moment), etc.


And watch her foot go round in circles & her 2 second delay when she touches her head/face after a question.

I feel so bad for the detectives having to deal with all the squirrliness as well as the squirrel story.

[lonetraveler]

I disagree. What proof do we have there was decomp in the trunk? The hair band or the smell? Doesn't work for me. JMO.


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It appears that you do not believe in Science? If the body is found and DNA testing has to be conducted to identify the body, will you accept the results if they are positive for an identification of Caylee?

[nellbell]

Did they mean July 30,2008 instead of June 30,2008 on the transcript for Christopher Stutz. I am sooooo confused. MOO:shrug:

[nellbell]

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It appears that you do not believe in Science? If the body is found and DNA testing has to be conducted to identify the body, will you accept the results if they are positive for an identification of Caylee?

The dna results said the person's hair strand was dead. Since Casey and Caylee have the exact dna it had to have been Caylee because Casey is still alive. MOO

[barskin&co.]

Good Lord!!! I am at the part where she says "Zanny" is either Amy or Jesse. So how does this fit in with the rest of the story? She is contemptable, isn't she?

[babblefishie]

Now this link suggests that Casey WAS searching for info on Zenaida BACK in JUNE!

"The computer records also revealed that, starting in June, Casey's computer was used to search for Zenaida Gonzalez, the mystery nanny. The question now is whether she was trying to get background information on the woman, who she would later accuse of being the person who took Caylee."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17567178/detail.html

[MyrDawn]

Now this link suggests that Casey WAS searching for info on Zenaida BACK in JUNE!

"The computer records also revealed that, starting in June, Casey's computer was used to search for Zenaida Gonzalez, the mystery nanny. The question now is whether she was trying to get background information on the woman, who she would later accuse of being the person who took Caylee."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17567178/detail.html

WOW, that is VERY interesting! Thanks for the link! :seeya:

[lonetraveler]

The dna results said the person's hair strand was dead. Since Casey and Caylee have the exact dna it had to have been Caylee because Casey is still alive. MOO

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I totally agree that possibilites and evidence show that Caylee is dead. I was posing the question to Dunnie who seems to not believe any evidence that Caylee is dead.

[KathR]

Moved to night thread.