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nutterbutter
09-24-2008, 07:59 PM
please continue here folks and thanks:rose:

Justins Mom
09-24-2008, 08:18 PM
thanks NutterButter

J-Mom here!!!!!

?noanswer
09-24-2008, 08:27 PM
Flmon, this is the link about Casey selling Caylee to someone in PR. http://www.wftv.com/news/17550086/detail.html

I didn't bother posting it in my original post because it was discussed a few pages before my post, thought everyone had already read it.


JMO

Pebbles
09-24-2008, 08:28 PM
Sure hope Congress and the President doesn't decide to bail them out!!! JMO


OMG in this circus anything is possible! LOL

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 08:29 PM
I think by the time this case is over, Casey will look exactly like Heidi Fleiss. :biggrin:

warrkat
09-24-2008, 08:29 PM
Warrkat checkin' in.

Just got supper and dishes finished, and read the last few pages of this afternoon's thread. I noticed someone said that Casey took $40,000 from her grandparents. Was that figure in the documents somewhere? I'd never heard how much she took.

day2day
09-24-2008, 08:31 PM
So they release Cindy's phone records AFTER Caylee is gone? What about before?:shrug:
And where is Det. George's phone records...

?noanswer
09-24-2008, 08:31 PM
Warrkat checkin' in.

Just got supper and dishes finished, and read the last few pages of this afternoon's thread. I noticed someone said that Casey took $40,000 from her grandparents. Was that figure in the documents somewhere? I'd never heard how much she took.

I didn't see it in the documents, doesn't mean it wasn't there, tho. JMO

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 08:31 PM
Anyone watching the mobile camera? Looks like a news cam set up there.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

dixie77
09-24-2008, 08:31 PM
Has Cindy and George's testamony been released yet? thanks

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 08:33 PM
Has Cindy and George's testamony been released yet? thanksJust their statements in the original document dump.

kakax
09-24-2008, 08:33 PM
Thanks to the poster for the updated text messages!! What I found interesting was that Casey was actually able to get letters out to her family through Baez.
Lee also warned Cindy not to talk about any letters.

Lostgirl
09-24-2008, 08:34 PM
omfg! I am just catching up... read a bit of the afternoon thread and now over here

They have a MOVIE DEAL!?!?!?? and took money for this story? please someone tell me i missunderstood!!

If that's true I really can't understand this freaking family? are they for real?

ugh! barf

dixie77
09-24-2008, 08:34 PM
Just their statements in the original document dump.
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Thanks Joan.

day2day
09-24-2008, 08:34 PM
Anyone watching the mobile camera? Looks like a news cam set up there.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

i sure hope its hammer proof!

tiny paw-prints
09-24-2008, 08:34 PM
I believe Lee Alexander Anthony needs an attorney PDQ!

I hope he retains a really good criminal defense attorney!

Inappropriate laughter can also be a sign of deception, especially when you are interrogated by LE regarding the specifics surrounding the 31-day disappearance of your Niece and the decomp death odor waving from your sister's vehicle. Wheweee...

Lee? What have you done? :cuss:

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 08:34 PM
Has Cindy and George's testamony been released yet? thanks

I tried to answer you when the other thread closed on me. No they have not and I am for lack of a better word. Dying to see them.

kakax
09-24-2008, 08:35 PM
So they release Cindy's phone records AFTER Caylee is gone? What about before?:shrug:
And where is Det. George's phone records...


I don't think they have all been released yet and I bet some of those will not be released.

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 08:35 PM
Okay, so there was discussion about Amy claiming that Casey text messaged Ricardo on the 16th - some debate on whether Casey would have been able to do so or not, since she was arrested that day..

She obviously wasn't arrested until late afternoon because I am looking at Brittany's phone records and Casey text messaged her at 16:13:51 on 16/07/08

So at 4:13 pm on the 16th - she was still text messaging her friends.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/06.pdf

st777jo
09-24-2008, 08:35 PM
Anyone watching the mobile camera? Looks like a news cam set up there.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

They changed positions 1/2 dozen times today. Wonder why?

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 08:35 PM
omfg! I am just catching up... read a bit of the afternoon thread and now over here

They have a MOVIE DEAL!?!?!?? and took money for this story? please someone tell me i missunderstood!!

If that's true I really can't understand this freaking family? are they for real?

ugh! barfThere's another link that says they are denying that.

Broderick
09-24-2008, 08:35 PM
ITA - I looked for that in the docs and it was never brought up. Someone mentioned that Casey said she was going to PR with them but changed her mind several times.

If she did by chance, the prosecutor is using that in a capital murder charge in any statement made. That would counteract any attempt by the prosecution to choose a strategy for defense based on insanity. This would defeat defense to premeditation to a degree if they go that route with awareness to right and wrong. Documents already say she tried to cover the smell with squirrels in the engine compartment and an animal plastered to the frame. That is huge. That is a great indication that she has the ability to know right from wrong, and to create excuses. Insanity defense is OFF the table.

dixie77
09-24-2008, 08:36 PM
I tried to answer you when the other thread closed on me. No they have not and I am for lack of a better word. Dying to see them.
=============

Thanks, Rebel. I'm dying to see it, also.

jammies
09-24-2008, 08:36 PM
i sure hope its hammer proof!



Casey is due home at 8pm.....just in time for Nancy!

day2day
09-24-2008, 08:37 PM
I believe Lee Alexander Anthony needs an attorney PDQ!

I hope he retains a really good criminal defense attorney!

Inappropriate laughter can also be a sign of deception, especially when you are interrogated by LE regarding the specifics surrounding the 31-day disappearance of your Niece and the decomp death odor waving from your sister's vehicle. Wheweee...

Lee? What have you done? :cuss:

Where is Lee? He seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.

Lostgirl
09-24-2008, 08:38 PM
There's another link that says they are denying that.

thanks joan.. okay I'll calm down about that and wait until something is confirmed.

made me sick to think of such a thing :(

~jomomma~
09-24-2008, 08:38 PM
Anyone watching the mobile camera? Looks like a news cam set up there.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

there was a camera man there a little bit ago with camera on top of the stand. then it was gone.

day2day
09-24-2008, 08:38 PM
Casey is due home at 8pm.....just in time for Nancy!

I hope she is late-and she runs! :D

?noanswer
09-24-2008, 08:38 PM
If she did by chance, the prosecutor is using that in a capital murder charge in any statement made. That would counteract any attempt by the prosecution to choose a strategy for defense based on insanity. This would defeat premeditation to a degree if they go that route with awareness to right and wrong. Documents already say she tried to cover the smell with squirrels in the engine compartment and an animal plastered to the frame. That is huge. That is a great indication that she has the ability to know right from wrong, and to create excuses. Insanity defense is OFF the table.


"That would counteract any attempt by the prosecution to choose a strategy for defense based on insanity."

Did you mean to say Defense? JMO

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 08:39 PM
Please light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to begin

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

TY for the new thread NB :)

kakax
09-24-2008, 08:39 PM
Where is Lee? He seems to have fallen off the face of the earth.

Someone said last night they saw his car in the driveway at the house. I never looked...was too engrossed in the documents lol!

warrkat
09-24-2008, 08:39 PM
I didn't see it in the documents, doesn't mean it wasn't there, tho. JMO

thanks. I might have misread it. I was trying to hurry because I can't stay awake a whole lot longer. LOL. I've been doing chemo all summer, and thankfully, don't have too many side effects, except for being sleepy most of the time......... it's as bad as being pregnant!

If it's true, I'm sure Nancy will talk about it tonight.

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 08:41 PM
I believe Lee Alexander Anthony needs an attorney PDQ!

I hope he retains a really good criminal defense attorney!

Inappropriate laughter can also be a sign of deception, especially when you are interrogated by LE regarding the specifics surrounding the 31-day disappearance of your Niece and the decomp death odor waving from your sister's vehicle. Wheweee...

Lee? What have you done? :cuss:

I'm not sure what to make of Lee. He seemed very forward in giving accurate information about everything. Except for why it took him so long to get Casey's things. Which may come out later. I also believe there can be neurological issues that cause this to happen. For him to be so forthcoming I'd say he has issues as to his giggling at inappropriate times. Just my opinion though.

?noanswer
09-24-2008, 08:41 PM
Anyone have the link where Casey tells Cindy that she sold Caylee? TIA


http://www.wftv.com/news/17550086/detail.html

I posted it in about the 3rd post from the beginning of this thread and on the links thread. JMO

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 08:41 PM
More documents released:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 08:42 PM
I believe Lee Alexander Anthony needs an attorney PDQ!

I hope he retains a really good criminal defense attorney!

Inappropriate laughter can also be a sign of deception, especially when you are interrogated by LE regarding the specifics surrounding the 31-day disappearance of your Niece and the decomp death odor waving from your sister's vehicle. Wheweee...

Lee? What have you done? :cuss:
I do have to say, that although I think nerves can cause the inappropriate laughter, that Lee has not expressed any sorrow for Caylee.

day2day
09-24-2008, 08:42 PM
Maybe he took money out of his paypal and hit the road.:shrug:

Or he has been disowned for talkin to BH. Or both! jmo!:D

Broderick
09-24-2008, 08:43 PM
Good because she isnt crazy just evil.:cuss:

That is correct. We can ponder why. I think Cindy was abusive, a virtual juggernaut of abuse verbally. I think Casey did not live up to expectations and Casey felt that pressure. It was building. Casey created a fantasy life sometime after Caylee was born, probably right after and during her dismissal from her high profile brag about job at Universal. She never recovered. She was broken on the 15th of June and did the unthinkable out of mere spite. None of this family will recover. True unpredictable tragedy.

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 08:43 PM
Anyone have the link where Casey tells Cindy that she sold Caylee? TIA

CW is cleaning up stuff on that other thread but there was a link within the last 5 pages back where sources told the media thats what Casey told Cindy.

kakax
09-24-2008, 08:44 PM
I wonder how long the cell phone companies keep the deleted text messages? Do I remember hearing 30 days?

OneUp
09-24-2008, 08:44 PM
I do think that Casey and Baez must be behind the videos/pictures sold for "licensing fees" and this new deal that is supposedly being drawn up with Lifetime. The reason I am sure it must be them is that AFAIK, no one but the parent or guardian of a minor child may legally allow that childs image to be used publically...NO OTHER PARTY, except AFAIK LE can use it for Amber Alerts, etc.
I know this as my oldest acts in some small budget films, theatre, etc. and even for the schools website she must have my written/signed consent. I missed ONE signature on a film set once and they spent the evening tracking me down for that one signature.
The only way Caylee's image can be used in entertainment venues is with parental consent. IMO, but i've never known that not to be true.
CASEY can sign that right off to her attorney to "broker"...but there must be parental consent.
JMO.

Velouria
09-24-2008, 08:44 PM
I believe Lee Alexander Anthony needs an attorney PDQ!

I hope he retains a really good criminal defense attorney!
<snip>



paw-prints, I hope he retains a really mediocre one. Does Baez have a brother? ;)

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 08:45 PM
Okay, so there was discussion about Amy claiming that Casey text messaged Ricardo on the 16th - some debate on whether Casey would have been able to do so or not, since she was arrested that day..

She obviously wasn't arrested until late afternoon because I am looking at Brittany's phone records and Casey text messaged her at 16:13:51 on 16/07/08

So at 4:13 pm on the 16th - she was still text messaging her friends.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/06.pdf

Wasn't Lee using her phone to contact people? He was the Anthony's lead detective after all.

jmho

Broderick
09-24-2008, 08:46 PM
"That would counteract any attempt by the prosecution to choose a strategy for defense based on insanity."

Did you mean to say Defense? JMO

I make mistakes all the time. I am no English teacher and I would be a poor proof reader and I have been decimated by the more intellectual know it all members of the board here especially the other night because of my lack of proof reading and writing skills. They say my words are too big.

Broderick
09-24-2008, 08:47 PM
CARRIED OVER FROM BRODERICK (SP?)--------------
Isn't it amazing just how spectacular the information is every time it comes out. Just when you think there can't be more turns, it takes turns that nobody could predict.

I still believe the simplest explanation is the right explanation. Most people most likely had it right from the very beginning. Casey killed Caylee. She put her in the trunk and created whatever is going on at whatever moment she felt she had to.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------QUOTED FROM BRODERICK__


Exactly........just go back to the beginning. Since I have not been around that is what I have done in my head.

The info we get is just amazing in volumes, we sometimes forget what we just read last week. And to know LE is holding back and has even said there is forensic testing that they are keeping back that leads them to believe Caylee is dead.

With the protesters and Casey doing stupid things like calling 911....BIG MISTAKE......NOT LOOKING FOR CAYLEE........and just basically hanging out.........why would LE want to stop now?

LE has their work cut out for them........I bet they are working around the clock and have every news clip.....program......whatever on DVR.....

LE did not create the protesters or the bails bonds people or whoever gets tangled up with that family.......but they may as well stand back and watch. and listen....

I totally agree.

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 08:47 PM
Casey is due home at 8pm.....just in time for Nancy!

I hope mark williams has armor on tonight. NG is going to be foaming at the mouth and looking for eyes to claw out of someone's head! :chicken:

day2day
09-24-2008, 08:48 PM
[QUOTE=tiny paw-prints;12179963]I believe Lee Alexander Anthony needs an attorney PDQ!

I hope he retains a really good criminal defense attorney!
<snip>

[QUOTE]

paw-prints, I hope he retains a really mediocre one. Does Baez have a brother? ;)

He might have a partner that isn't busy..:shrug:

Broderick
09-24-2008, 08:48 PM
More documents released:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

You are on top of it, thanks. The new LG.

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 08:48 PM
Wasn't Lee using her phone to contact people? He was the Anthony's lead detective after all.

jmho

LOL, maybe. I dunno? but why would Lee text Ricardo that message? This family is bizarre. :shrug:

I found a copy of her original affidavit, it states the date/time of arrest: 07/16/2008 16:33pm..it was filed at 19:32 (7:32) pm by Yuri.

http://investigation.discovery.com/blogs/criminal-report/files/caseyanthony02.pdf

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 08:48 PM
I do think that Casey and Baez must be behind the videos/pictures sold for "licensing fees" and this new deal that is supposedly being drawn up with Lifetime. The reason I am sure it must be them is that AFAIK, no one but the parent or guardian of a minor child may legally allow that childs image to be used publically...NO OTHER PARTY, except AFAIK LE can use it for Amber Alerts, etc.
I know this as my oldest acts in some small budget films, theatre, etc. and even for the schools website she must have my written/signed consent. I missed ONE signature on a film set once and they spent the evening tracking me down for that one signature.
The only way Caylee's image can be used in entertainment venues is with parental consent. IMO, but i've never known that not to be true.
CASEY can sign that right off to her attorney to "broker"...but there must be parental consent.
JMO.



I have to say I really think JB is really trying to pull in all deals. I remember when LP and crew came to town and they seem to be told there was more to the story than we all knew and that we would be surprised. (mentioned at a site we can't mention). I think JB is still telling this to all of the media outlets (possibly through the spokesperson media guy). If this is true, which is all moo I am not sure he took the case for any other reason.

Again all moo

Velouria
09-24-2008, 08:49 PM
That is correct. We can ponder why. I think Cindy was abusive, a virtual juggernaut of abuse verbally. I think Casey did not live up to expectations and Casey felt that pressure. It was building. Casey created a fantasy life sometime after Caylee was born, probably right after and during her dismissal from her high profile brag about job at Universal. She never recovered. She was broken on the 15th of June and did the unthinkable out of mere spite. None of this family will recover. True unpredictable tragedy.

Great post Broderick, but
"High profile brag job"? You are being facetious, I presume?

catjoed
09-24-2008, 08:49 PM
I make mistakes all the time. I am no English teacher and I would be a poor proof reader and I have been decimated by the more intellectual know it all members of the board here especially the other night because of my lack of proof reading and writing skills. They say my words are too big.


lol!

!!!!!!!!!!

eta, cannot post less than ten (10) characters...:confused:

Shellberry
09-24-2008, 08:50 PM
Anyone watching the mobile camera? Looks like a news cam set up there.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
not sure exactly-but it could be set up/have been set up for the 7pm news on one of the orlando stations.
when fox is ready to do their 10 pm live I see a lot of different cameras set up- or people with the mics from different stations.


More documents released:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html
thanks & thanks everyone for the links that you all post

?noanswer
09-24-2008, 08:50 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/02%20Forensic%20Cell%20Phone%20Report.pdf


Just read the above. I don't know if the phone calls are listed in order made, but I noticed that Jose Baez was #12 and Christina Baez (Jose's daughter?) was #24.

Also it stated in the text message that Jose had messages from Casey for them. I thought Jose said that Casey did not write a letter! JMO

Lynden1000
09-24-2008, 08:51 PM
I hope mark williams has armor on tonight. NG is going to be foaming at the mouth and looking for eyes to claw out of someone's head! :chicken:

I was ticked off by the way she talked to him last night...calling him a "crack reporter." And he wasn't even disagreeing with her about anything!

I hope the staff does damage control during the commercial breaks.

kakax
09-24-2008, 08:51 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Index;jsessionid=FDACC1EFF7DFF7F524D3724F24570781? pageId=3.2.2


Texts from Casey to Amy

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 08:51 PM
Baez throws the gauntlet down to LE

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7504472&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Baez is in over his head, IMO. Not that I care because personally - I could care less whether Casey gets adequate representation (which might dismay the lawyers who post on here, but oh well).. I am just saying he isn't even close to being qualified to handle a case like this. (IMO)

Rayosunshine
09-24-2008, 08:52 PM
So they release Cindy's phone records AFTER Caylee is gone? What about before?:shrug:
And where is Det. George's phone records...

I noticed that. Must have kept all the good stuff.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

kakax
09-24-2008, 08:53 PM
I was ticked off by the way she talked to him last night...calling him a "crack reporter." And he wasn't even disagreeing with her about anything!

I hope the staff does damage control during the commercial breaks.

On that note, here is someone who agrees with you...

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-92720

Broderick
09-24-2008, 08:53 PM
Great post Broderick, but
"High profile brag job"? You are being facetious, I presume?

I was twenty many moons ago. If I had a job like she had, I would have never been married and have children. I would have had way too much fun. Event planner! For Universal? I have went there several times for events pertaining to new automation in manufacturing and to technology advances in what you need not know.

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 08:54 PM
Casey's home!
Actually, I didn't see her.
I should have said the body guard who has been Driving Miss Casey has his black PU truck in the drive.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

made ya look, didn't I?

~jomomma~
09-24-2008, 08:54 PM
Baez throws the gauntlet down to LE

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7504472&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

from that link:
He then puts the ball in their court saying, "Please give me a call when you are more interested in searching for caylee, as opposed to improving your office's public relations image."

:eek:






:flamemad:

Rayosunshine
09-24-2008, 08:54 PM
Anyone watching the mobile camera? Looks like a news cam set up there.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

I see that. Isn't Casey meeting with Baez until 8pm?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

day2day
09-24-2008, 08:54 PM
I noticed that. Must have kept all the good stuff.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I'm off to read about florida grand jury's...i hope they are having a special meeting TONIGHT! :D

Broderick
09-24-2008, 08:56 PM
lol!

!!!!!!!!!!

eta, cannot post less than ten (10) characters...:confused:

Okay, you are right. That would never happen. If verbosity was a sin, I should be posting from Hell already.

tiny paw-prints
09-24-2008, 08:56 PM
Wasn't Lee using her phone to contact people? He was the Anthony's lead detective after all.

jmho

Oh my! Lee is not only the Anthony's lead detective, but he's also their personal rocket scientist for computers too! Does he specialize in any other categories? Payroll clerk? Mechanic?

~jomomma~
09-24-2008, 08:57 PM
Casey's home!
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html


awwww....ain't that shweeeeet

her atty driving her all over the place....weird

msgatorslayer
09-24-2008, 08:57 PM
Coffee pong, lmao. :lol: These detectives are funny.

Pebbles
09-24-2008, 08:58 PM
I do think that Casey and Baez must be behind the videos/pictures sold for "licensing fees" and this new deal that is supposedly being drawn up with Lifetime. The reason I am sure it must be them is that AFAIK, no one but the parent or guardian of a minor child may legally allow that childs image to be used publically...NO OTHER PARTY, except AFAIK LE can use it for Amber Alerts, etc.
I know this as my oldest acts in some small budget films, theatre, etc. and even for the schools website she must have my written/signed consent. I missed ONE signature on a film set once and they spent the evening tracking me down for that one signature.
The only way Caylee's image can be used in entertainment venues is with parental consent. IMO, but i've never known that not to be true.
CASEY can sign that right off to her attorney to "broker"...but there must be parental consent.
JMO.


Great post! This is what happened with the videos and pictures for the 20/20 news show on ABC. The Anthonys and JB denied receiving money, because they did not receive any money directly, they were paid for licensing fees for use of the videos and pictures.

That is what I believe is happening regarding a possible movie deal. No money will be paid directly if and when it happens, but money will be paid to a third party, that way the Anthonys and JB can say they were not paid (directly)! Also, deals and offers can be made through a third party, so JB and the Anthonys can say they are not "directly" talking to anyone.

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 08:59 PM
Yes, it is dark in FL at 8 pm

It's almost dark in Tallahassee. We are further west than Miami and Orlando.

~jomomma~
09-24-2008, 09:00 PM
Casey's home!
Actually, I didn't see her.
I should have said the body guard who has been Driving Miss Casey has his black PU truck in the drive.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

made ya look, didn't I?

oh! is that the body guards truck? i thought it was JB's :o

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:02 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa (in best NG voice) a dumpster?

Why isn't she in jail??????

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 09:03 PM
Nancy talking about the "bombshell documents"... and Zanny filing a lawsuit against Casey.

Cury-us Coyote
09-24-2008, 09:03 PM
Okay, so there was discussion about Amy claiming that Casey text messaged Ricardo on the 16th - some debate on whether Casey would have been able to do so or not, since she was arrested that day..

She obviously wasn't arrested until late afternoon because I am looking at Brittany's phone records and Casey text messaged her at 16:13:51 on 16/07/08

So at 4:13 pm on the 16th - she was still text messaging her friends.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/06.pdf

IIRC, Casey's was first arrested on Wed July 16th @ 4:33 PM
jmo

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 09:04 PM
Reporter says Casey was concentrating on "who she wants to have sex with", drinking and pot..

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Has anyone heard this theory before other than from LP about the dumpster? And specifically the dumpster by Amscot?

MyrDawn
09-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Baez is in over his head, IMO. Not that I care because personally - I could care less whether Casey gets adequate representation (which might dismay the lawyers who post on here, but oh well).. I am just saying he isn't even close to being qualified to handle a case like this. (IMO)

I do want her to have adequate representation. Otherwise, there could be grounds for tossing out the verdict and granting her a new trial. JMO

OneUp
09-24-2008, 09:05 PM
Thanks to the poster for the updated text messages!! What I found interesting was that Casey was actually able to get letters out to her family through Baez.
Lee also warned Cindy not to talk about any letters.
Did I miss these? Thanks if you have the link and can re-post it!

jammies
09-24-2008, 09:06 PM
Coffee pong, lmao. :lol: These detectives are funny.


Did you read the funny remark the one makes about the FBI? Than he says "I'm gonna be fired for that!" I was ROTF!

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 09:07 PM
oh! is that the body guards truck? i thought it was JB's :o
I did see the BG briefly.
I cannot keep track of all the black vehicles.
I forgot that JB has a truck.

jmho

hamebone
09-24-2008, 09:07 PM
Has anyone heard this theory before other than from LP about the dumpster? And specifically the dumpster by Amscot?

No not me, I think ,I did read somewhere that the garbage truck had a GPS tracking and they checked the dumpsite..?? or did I dream that?

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 09:07 PM
Nancy's producers did a real good job matching up Amy's statements VS Casey's statements. This REALLY makes Casey looks bad.. During the time, she was supposedly frantic.. she was getting her nails done, partying and getting a tattoo.

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:08 PM
Did I miss these? Thanks if you have the link and can re-post it!



http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

tiny paw-prints
09-24-2008, 09:09 PM
IIRC, Casey's was first arrested on Wed July 16th @ 4:33 PM
jmo

Yeah, she was in the middle of texting her friends when they arrested her! That's why she thinks they arrested her on a ****g whim!!!

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 09:09 PM
IIRC, Casey's was first arrested on Wed July 16th @ 4:33 PM
jmo
You and aubrey are good. :)

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:10 PM
No not me, I think ,I did read somewhere that the garbage truck had a GPS tracking and they checked the dumpsite..?? or did I dream that?



Oh yea, I remember that! It was from that dumpster right there at the Amscot right?

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 09:11 PM
Has anyone heard this theory before other than from LP about the dumpster? And specifically the dumpster by Amscot?

Yes, a few weeks ago on NG.
But, I don't get NG so am not watching it now.
I see it after it hits youtube.

ellvarn
09-24-2008, 09:11 PM
I am sorry to have to ask this from my fellow posters, but is there a link or website where I can download the 400-600 documents? I have checked some of the links but I am baffled at how to download all the pages at once instead of doing it one page at a time. I am feeling so dum-dum hammer about this.
Can someone point me in the direction to go?

TYIA

Caylee :rose:

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 09:12 PM
Nancy's producers did a real good job matching up Amy's statements VS Casey's statements. This REALLY makes Casey looks bad.. During the time, she was supposedly frantic.. she was getting her nails done, partying and getting a tattoo.
Thank you for the NG updates.

tiny paw-prints
09-24-2008, 09:12 PM
Nancy's producers did a real good job matching up Amy's statements VS Casey's statements. This REALLY makes Casey looks bad.. During the time, she was supposedly frantic.. she was getting her nails done, partying and getting a tattoo.


Yeah, and on top of that; she asked Cindy for One More Day because she had another tattoo appointment to have the Bella tat colored in.

hamebone
09-24-2008, 09:13 PM
Oh yea, I remember that! It was from that dumpster right there at the Amscot right?

Yes, I think so...but how much time had passed between when she left the car and they searched the site...do you know?

spiritwolf46
09-24-2008, 09:14 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

Kakax, I downloaded all the ones from yesterday, but not sure which ones were not there. Are there certain ones on that list that I should download that were released today?

TIA! :seeya:

Cury-us Coyote
09-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Has anyone heard this theory before other than from LP about the dumpster? And specifically the dumpster by Amscot?

That would be me.
:seeya:

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Yeah, and on top of that; she asked Cindy for One More Day because she had another tattoo appointment to have the Bella tat colored in.
R U kidding?
She didn't get her tattoo colored in?
Poor baby!
Maybe her tat artiste can come to the house and finish it before Casey goes of to the Big House.

hamebone
09-24-2008, 09:15 PM
Over 500 text messages and only one mentioned her daughter.


out of sight out of mind


my head is spinning from reading her lies...I kid you not...

Caylee:rose:

hamebone
09-24-2008, 09:16 PM
K. Im going to ask. what are brownies? Is it brownies with pot in them?:o

I think so....

dvsone
09-24-2008, 09:17 PM
Wow.

Day 100? :(

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:17 PM
I am sorry to have to ask this from my fellow posters, but is there a link or website where I can download the 400-600 documents? I have checked some of the links but I am baffled at how to download all the pages at once instead of doing it one page at a time. I am feeling so dum-dum hammer about this.
Can someone point me in the direction to go?

TYIA

Caylee :rose:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-case-discovery-edited-092308,0,3332180.acrobat

Velouria
09-24-2008, 09:17 PM
I was twenty many moons ago. If I had a job like she had, I would have never been married and have children. I would have had way too much fun. Event planner! For Universal? I have went there several times for events pertaining to new automation in manufacturing and to technology advances in what you need not know.


But that's just it, Broderick...

The Event Planner position never existed anywhere but in Casey's twisted imagination.

She never worked as an event planner, for Universal or any other company for that matter. She worked in a photo kiosk outside a ride exit.

"Brag" is actually a good description for her job, as it begins and ends there, I'm afraid.

Mamie
09-24-2008, 09:17 PM
Nancy's producers did a real good job matching up Amy's statements VS Casey's statements. This REALLY makes Casey looks bad.. During the time, she was supposedly frantic.. she was getting her nails done, partying and getting a tattoo.

What I noticed in last night's Nancy Grace segment, was when the detectives were asking Casey questions and they came to the one about did she remember when she ran out of gas-----was it before Caylee went missing or after. And Casey actually had to pause quite awhile before she answered "After, definitely after." I thought that was strange for someone who can think on her feet as well as she seems to be able to do to come up with all these elaborate lies all the time. JMO

dvsone
09-24-2008, 09:18 PM
R U kidding?
She didn't get her tattoo colored in?
Poor baby!
Maybe her tat artiste can come to the house and finish it before Casey goes of to the Big House.


Not to worry, they will finish it IN prison for her. Not like they are too busy and all booked up.

Broderick
09-24-2008, 09:18 PM
Hey Broderick,

And what about that 911 call.........she is totally SANE......she knows how to tell the truth, she knows how to call for help......

That just blew me away and I bet Baez. Not only did she talk to LE but it is ALL on tape......She made a BIG MISTAKE.......and hopefully will make more......hey she already is by DOING NOTHING.......ZERO......NADA.....to find Caylee while she is out......

AND Yes that skunk business is a BIG DEAL......

Her finally story IN COURT is going to be dependent of the discovery from the prosecution and what Baez finds out on his own......she will have to mold her story around all of it .....GOOD LUCK WITH THAT........THEN the BILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS: Who the heck will tell the story......I can not imagine her on any stand at anytime unless it is a civil trial.......That only leaves her family and same goes for them the prosecution will tear them apart......


There were two 911 calls that night from her. Baez was visibly angry the next day. That will be devastating to the defense. Make no mistake. She will never take the stand. Make no mistake about that either.

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:19 PM
Kakax, I downloaded all the ones from yesterday, but not sure which ones were not there. Are there certain ones on that list that I should download that were released today?

TIA! :seeya:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/06.pdf
Britany's text messages

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/02%20Forensic%20Cell%20Phone%20Report.pdf
Cindy' Anthony's text messages.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/13%20Troy%20Brown%20Cell%20Phone%20Texts%20July%20 25.pdf
Troy's text messages

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 09:19 PM
Padilla just repeated what a poster on here posted today. That Caylee was in a bag in the trunk and the bag leaked decomp into the trunk.

This guy is too much. :rolleyes:

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 09:20 PM
Marc Klaas really can read into these people. He's good. Casey's life got better once Caylee was gone. She was able to do what she wanted - go party and do whatever. He used Michael Peterson, Scott Peterson, Mark Hacking and Susan Smith as examples of people who are a lot like Casey, (ie - selfish murderers).

Unfortunately, it seems to be true. Poor Caylee. :(

bluwaters
09-24-2008, 09:21 PM
Padilla just repeated what a poster on here posted today. That Caylee was in a bag in the trunk and the bag leaked decomp into the trunk.

This guy is too much. :rolleyes:
I think that is a pretty universal theory.

jmho

MyrDawn
09-24-2008, 09:21 PM
Nancy's producers did a real good job matching up Amy's statements VS Casey's statements. This REALLY makes Casey looks bad.. During the time, she was supposedly frantic.. she was getting her nails done, partying and getting a tattoo.

ITA It was excellent work on their part!

Broderick
09-24-2008, 09:22 PM
But that's just it, Broderick...

The Event Planner position never existed anywhere but in Casey's twisted imagination.

She never worked as an event planner, for Universal or any other company for that matter. She worked in a photo kiosk outside a ride exit.

"Brag" is actually a good description for her job, as it begins and ends there, I'm afraid.

Sad isn't it. Did she create that position to satiate her mother's dominance? I will ask CM if he comes on.

spiritwolf46
09-24-2008, 09:23 PM
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/06.pdf
Britany's text messages

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/02%20Forensic%20Cell%20Phone%20Report.pdf
Cindy' Anthony's text messages.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/13%20Troy%20Brown%20Cell%20Phone%20Texts%20July%20 25.pdf
Troy's text messages

YOU are AWESOME! Thank you!!!!

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 09:23 PM
I can't believe Casey is still lying about working at universal and keeps on with her story to the detective about coming from work and not finding ZG. WTH? :confused:

Does Baez think a jury will buy this?

bchand
09-24-2008, 09:23 PM
Did I miss these? Thanks if you have the link and can re-post it!

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

Cindy's cell phone records

ellvarn
09-24-2008, 09:23 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-case-discovery-edited-092308,0,3332180.acrobat


Thank you Kakax, I always get answers from when I ask.

Caylee:rose:

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 09:24 PM
Yeah, and on top of that; she asked Cindy for One More Day because she had another tattoo appointment to have the Bella tat colored in.


What.... Where did you read that? Are you kidding me?

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 09:25 PM
I think that is a pretty universal theory.

jmhoI never heard it until today, from a poster.

tiny paw-prints
09-24-2008, 09:25 PM
Cindy: "We should not speak of any letters from Casey."

:eek:

Those letters that Casey wrote while she was in jail the first time. She had Baez deliver them for her.

ellvarn
09-24-2008, 09:26 PM
YOU are AWESOME! Thank you!!!!


I agree - :beer:

This is the best board out of all I have visited, this is home.

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:27 PM
Wonder what public report this information about the dumpster is in...anyone know?

msgatorslayer
09-24-2008, 09:28 PM
We all know this is BS, but something that I just caught, which I noticed before but wasn't at the puter to bring it up. Casey is telling LE in her interview that the phone has been missing for 9 days. 9 days ago is when she reported it to Universal security, lmao. She says that if they can find that phone, she's pretty sure she has one other number for Zanny.

Well, didn't she try calling that number that she's pretty sure she has?:shrug:

In hindsight, there are so many more questions LE could have asked, had they had more time to digest her lies.

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 09:29 PM
Cindy: "We should not speak of any letters from Casey."

:eek:

Those letters that Casey wrote while she was in jail the first time. She had Baez deliver them for her.


Then, if you recall, they all said there were no letters....didn't know anything about any letters :rolleyes:

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 09:29 PM
Nancy is getting rude again.. I hate it when she does that. A theory that is in a public report states that the theory is that Caylee died - drown in the pool and was dumped in a dumpster.. Nancy interupts and says, (paraphrased) "no, that doesn't explain the chloroform searches"...

IMO - I really am not sure the chloroform was involved in her death. Why is Nancy so sure about it? I think it could have been used by George to clean the trunk out.

What do you guys think?

st777jo
09-24-2008, 09:29 PM
R U kidding?
She didn't get her tattoo colored in?
Poor baby!
Maybe her tat artiste can come to the house and finish it before Casey goes of to the Big House.

They only use black ink in jail. No need for color.

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:30 PM
Then, if you recall, they all said there were no letters....didn't know anything about any letters :rolleyes:

Don't forget....we are only supposed to believe what comes out of their and LE mouths. :rolleyes: right there with ya!

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 09:31 PM
Cindy: "We should not speak of any letters from Casey."

:eek:

Those letters that Casey wrote while she was in jail the first time. She had Baez deliver them for her.I thought that was text from Lee to Cindy.

OneUp
09-24-2008, 09:31 PM
Padilla just repeated what a poster on here posted today. That Caylee was in a bag in the trunk and the bag leaked decomp into the trunk.

This guy is too much. :rolleyes::cuss:That is IT! Whoever was talking about that theory with me earlier needs to PM me so we can sue that fraud for pirating our best theories!!!

:lol:Just kidding! But it is F-U-N-N-Y how he keps it topical with the most recent posts!
pssstttt....Lenny, call me!
JMO.

marshmallow
09-24-2008, 09:31 PM
Baez throws the gauntlet down to LE

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7504472&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1



Baez sounds petty and childish in his reply.

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:32 PM
I thought that was text from Lee to Cindy.

It was. Lee said that Baez had some letters to give the family after the vigil.

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 09:33 PM
Nancy is getting rude again.. I hate it when she does that. A theory that is in a public report states that the theory is that Caylee died - drown in the pool and was dumped in a dumpster.. Nancy interupts and says, (paraphrased) "no, that doesn't explain the chloroform searches"...

IMO - I really am not sure the chloroform was involved in her death. Why is Nancy so sure about it? I think it could have been used by George to clean the trunk out.

What do you guys think?


It could be but why would anyone have chloroform hanging around in their garage? It is not like you can go to the corner store and buy it. It just doesn't make sense to me :shrug:

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 09:33 PM
Nancy is getting rude again.. I hate it when she does that. A theory that is in a public report states that the theory is that Caylee died - drown in the pool and was dumped in a dumpster.. Nancy interupts and says, (paraphrased) "no, that doesn't explain the chloroform searches"...

IMO - I really am not sure the chloroform was involved in her death. Why is Nancy so sure about it? I think it could have been used by George to clean the trunk out.

What do you guys think?The report was that the searches came from Casey's laptop. When do you think George had time to do that, when he went to work after he picked up the car, and LE took it the next morning?

Certainly the FBI found the dates of the searches on the hard drive. The laptop was at Tony's.imo

~jomomma~
09-24-2008, 09:34 PM
Then, if you recall, they all said there were no letters....didn't know anything about any letters :rolleyes:

hey you! how's it going??? :seeya:

they're all lying!!! hammer

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 09:35 PM
Nancy is getting rude again.. I hate it when she does that. A theory that is in a public report states that the theory is that Caylee died - drown in the pool and was dumped in a dumpster.. Nancy interupts and says, (paraphrased) "no, that doesn't explain the chloroform searches"...

IMO - I really am not sure the chloroform was involved in her death. Why is Nancy so sure about it? I think it could have been used by George to clean the trunk out.

What do you guys think?


Personally I think if someone tried to clean with it they would have been knocked out cold, so I don't buy that.

I can't explain the chloroform, I just don't know what to think about it.

MyrDawn
09-24-2008, 09:35 PM
Baez sounds petty and childish in his reply.

I'll say! They ask him to provide the circumstances and location Caylee was last seen and he responds with a very snotty answer. That shows me just how uninterested he is in finding Caylee! JMO

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:37 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092408baezsheriffletters/1/lg/LetterFromSheriffBearyToJoseBaez.htm


Actual letters exchanged between LE and Jose.

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 09:37 PM
hey you! how's it going??? :seeya:

they're all lying!!! hammer

:seeya:

finally drying out....we had sun today!

Can you believe these people? they are making the Petersons look good! LOL

OneUp
09-24-2008, 09:37 PM
Cindy: "We should not speak of any letters from Casey."

:eek:

Those letters that Casey wrote while she was in jail the first time. She had Baez deliver them for her.?Question?:
For any with a legal background. Is sending letters to her family a no-no? I thought it was discussed when the letters were first rumored, and Katprint or some other weighed in and said that latters would be monitored likwe the phone calls...so Jo-Say shouldn't be taking them out and skirting the law.

Maybe even more folks under the watchful eye of LE than we had "hoped"...( I actually "hope" that Caylee would come home safe and everyone would be found innocent of all the nasty stuff and get ALOT of therapy so they could live hapily ever after...I wish, but I don't think any of that is very reality based...)
JMO.

Mamie
09-24-2008, 09:37 PM
Cindy: "We should not speak of any letters from Casey."

:eek:

Those letters that Casey wrote while she was in jail the first time. She had Baez deliver them for her.

Maybe I read that wrong, I thought Lee Anthony sent that to Cindy. Maybe I just automatically thought that seeing as how he was the one that also advised the family (Cindy and George) that they should not take the polygraphs. I mean George, who was in LE, thought it was okay to take them, but Lee said no, and so it was no. JMO

MyrDawn
09-24-2008, 09:38 PM
Personally I think if someone tried to clean with it they would have been knocked out cold, so I don't buy that.

I can't explain the chloroform, I just don't know what to think about it.


I think, and hope, Casey used the choloroform to knock Caylee out before she killed her. I hope so because I can't bear to think that Caylee was aware of her mommy hurting her. JMO

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 09:39 PM
I think, and hope, Casey used the choloroform to knock Caylee out before she killed her. I hope so because I can't bear to think that Caylee was aware of her mommy hurting her. JMO

3

As sad as that thought is, I have to agree with you.:(

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 09:40 PM
The report was that the searches came from Casey's laptop. When do you think George had time to do that, when he went to work after he picked up the car, and LE took it the next morning?

Certainly the FBI found the dates of the searches on the hard drive. The laptop was at Tony's.imo

Yeah. Good point. I just remember Lee stating that his dad, George, enjoys cleaning cars due to his previous work at the family car dealership. So I thought MAYBE it could have been used but you're right... I doubt he'd have that laying around your garage.

OneUp
09-24-2008, 09:40 PM
Baez sounds petty and childish in his reply.IMO, Baez is childish and petty...and amatuerish, and full of himself, and RUDE...
JMO.

aubrey04
09-24-2008, 09:41 PM
It could be but why would anyone have chloroform hanging around in their garage? It is not like you can go to the corner store and buy it. It just doesn't make sense to me :shrug:

Gotcha - great point.. thanks. I wish we knew the dates on when it was searched for on the computer. Wonder if that info will be released soon?

:confused:

Cury-us Coyote
09-24-2008, 09:42 PM
Wonder what public report this information about the dumpster is in...anyone know?


Dumpster May Be Key Piece Of Evidence In Missing Girl Mystery
(dozens of photographs of a dumpster on a CD)
http://www.local6.com/video/17288654/index.html

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:43 PM
Dumpster May Be Key Piece Of Evidence In Missing Girl Mystery
(dozens of photographs of a dumpster on a CD)
http://www.local6.com/video/17288654/index.html


Ty Cury!!!

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 09:44 PM
Gotcha - great point.. thanks. I wish we knew the dates on when it was searched for on the computer. Wonder if that info will be released soon?

:confused:

Probably not IMO. But it sure would help us out with a timeline lol

StickyBeak
09-24-2008, 09:44 PM
Good Evening Everyone :seeya:

Ive been way far behind today with the updates, and honestly any info has been provided by my fine fellow sleuthys here. Just trying to catch up, not enough tums for me at this time. Is this all true, the Anthonys have signed a 2 mil contract for a movie? Then Casey sold Caylee to someone in PR? All hearsay I assume, this can't be possible, these people can't live in any neighborhood, they need to be tarred and featherd, locked in town square and stoned, burned at the stake,
if this is all true! I am beside myself, a child is lost. This is the biggest scam in history IMO. Please tell me I have misread and lost my mind,
saw this petition as well,

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/lifetime-should-not-pay-for-a-movie-about-caylee-anthony

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:45 PM
Dumpster May Be Key Piece Of Evidence In Missing Girl Mystery
(dozens of photographs of a dumpster on a CD)
http://www.local6.com/video/17288654/index.html


Now I remember that. Mark Williams made it sound as if this was a new development...sorry I misunderstood.

summer4meplz
09-24-2008, 09:46 PM
Cindy: "We should not speak of any letters from Casey."

:eek:

Those letters that Casey wrote while she was in jail the first time. She had Baez deliver them for her.


Is that illegal?

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:48 PM
Could i please have the link to the updated tex messages.........thanks i have not been on today or elase i would ask:D

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/06.pdf
Britany's text messages

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/02%20Forensic%20Cell%20Phone%20Report.pdf
Cindy's text messages

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/13%20Troy%20Brown%20Cell%20Phone%20Texts%20July%20 25.pdf
Troy's Text messages

cassidy
09-24-2008, 09:48 PM
Is that illegal?

I don't know, but if her attorney had to sneak them out I kinda doubt it :shrug:

MyrDawn
09-24-2008, 09:49 PM
Could i please have the link to the updated tex messages.........thanks i have not been on today or elase i would ask:D

No prob. You can get those here:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

You may not have seen this little tidbit, either:
Anthony Family May Be Making Millions On Movie Deal

http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

Lifetime Movie Channel is denying that, though.

SandyO
09-24-2008, 09:51 PM
IMO, Baez is childish and petty...and amatuerish, and full of himself, and RUDE...
JMO.

Reminds me of his favorite client.

Velouria
09-24-2008, 09:51 PM
If verbosity was a sin, I should be posting from Hell already.


You should consider using that as your signature line. :D

bchand
09-24-2008, 09:53 PM
Good Evening Everyone :seeya:

Ive been way far behind today with the updates, and honestly any info has been provided by my fine fellow sleuthys here. Just trying to catch up, not enough tums for me at this time. Is this all true, the Anthonys have signed a 2 mil contract for a movie? Then Casey sold Caylee to someone in PR? All hearsay I assume, this can't be possible, these people can't live in any neighborhood, they need to be tarred and featherd, locked in town square and stoned, burned at the stake,
if this is all true! I am beside myself, a child is lost. This is the biggest scam in history IMO. Please tell me I have misread and lost my mind,
saw this petition as well,

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/lifetime-should-not-pay-for-a-movie-about-caylee-anthony

Thanks StickyBeak - done !

playnice
09-24-2008, 09:54 PM
I know a reporter said that the trash truck had gps on it and the landfill is marked off in grids. How hard would it be to find the location and would cadaver dogs be able to pick up on it quickly?

Rayosunshine
09-24-2008, 09:54 PM
Yes, a few weeks ago on NG.
But, I don't get NG so am not watching it now.
I see it after it hits youtube.

Think they splice old shows together with new ones?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

kakax
09-24-2008, 09:55 PM
Not that these are new, but they hadn't been posted yet.....


Orlando, Florida -- Wednesday Sept. 24, 2008
(From Natisha Lance, Nancy Grace Field Producer)

3:14 PM ET - A police deputy pulled up next to me while I was outside the Anthony home. He wanted to make sure I was with a news organization and was not a random person. It seems that police are making an effort to keep the neighborhood safe and under control although attempts by residents to remove protesters have been unsuccessful.

3:00 PM ET - Casey Anthony leaves for her appointment at her attorney's office driven by her mother Cindy Anthony. The two were already in the car when the garage door rolled up. They drove away without a word.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/08/NGfindcayleeblog/index.html

cassidy
09-24-2008, 09:56 PM
Is that a
security guard patrolling the perimeter of the Anthony Compound?

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 09:57 PM
I know a reporter said that the trash truck had gps on it and the landfill is marked off in grids. How hard would it be to find the location and would cadaver dogs be able to pick up on it quickly?

I thought they had been checked out already?

marinewife5
09-24-2008, 09:57 PM
I don't know, but if her attorney had to sneak them out I kinda doubt it :shrug:

IIRC, a jose went out of his way to let everyone know that there would be no letter delivering, as that was not legit. jmo

the good news is, cindy didn't tell the press :shrug:

st777jo
09-24-2008, 09:58 PM
I thought all mail, incoming and outgoing, from an inmate is read by jail employees????

summer4meplz
09-24-2008, 09:58 PM
I know a reporter said that the trash truck had gps on it and the landfill is marked off in grids. How hard would it be to find the location and would cadaver dogs be able to pick up on it quickly?

Keep in mind it was at least 31 days of trash on top of everything

cassidy
09-24-2008, 09:58 PM
IIRC, a jose went out of his way to let everyone know that there would be no letter delivering, as that was not legit. jmo

the good news is, cindy didn't tell the press :shrug:

LOL Dang that Lee, he just can't keep a secret can he?

playnice
09-24-2008, 09:59 PM
I thought they had been checked out already?

So did I but its coming up again.:shrug:

Cury-us Coyote
09-24-2008, 09:59 PM
Docs: Casey Anthony Sent 553 Cell Text Messages, Two About Daughter
http://www.local6.com/news/17551313/detail.html

st777jo
09-24-2008, 09:59 PM
Is that a
security guard patrolling the perimeter of the Anthony Compound?

Its a badge there and I'd like to know who is paying him????

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 10:01 PM
I thought all mail, incoming and outgoing, from an inmate is read by jail employees????


not if you give it to your attroney IMO

day2day
09-24-2008, 10:02 PM
...Something is really bothering me. Everyone "thought" Casey worked. Everyone "thought" Casey had a nanny...WHERE was Caylee when Casey was supposedly at work? Casey told the detectives that she had dropped Caylee off on those stairs at Sawgrass lots of times. Who did she give her to-and why? Wasn't it Ricardo who said he went to bed with Caylee and Casey and woke up with only Casey? Where did she take Caylee to?

I am gonna have more nightmares...

Velouria
09-24-2008, 10:02 PM
Docs: Casey Anthony Sent 553 Cell Text Messages, Two About Daughter
http://www.local6.com/news/17551313/detail.html

I think that headline says it all, right there...

kakax
09-24-2008, 10:02 PM
I know a reporter said that the trash truck had gps on it and the landfill is marked off in grids. How hard would it be to find the location and would cadaver dogs be able to pick up on it quickly?

Found this thought it was very interesting...

http://www.labradorsworldwide.com/labrador-feature-miranda.html

Let me start by explaining what kind of work Miranda does. Cadaver K-9's are used to locate human remains following a natural or manmade disaster, as well as drownings. There are two kinds of searches that Cadaver dogs perform- underwater searches and land searches.

Underwater searches are not as common as land searches for most cadaver trained canines. A specialty subset of cadaver dogs are water cadaver dogs. Those dogs trained in underwater searches have been trained to find the odor of decomposing human remains. However, water cadaver dogs have been specifically trained to locate and indicate the source of the odor to assist divers in a more directed and speedy recovery of a drowning victim. A water search dog is trained to detect human scent that is in or under the water.

The handler and dog are a team and usually work in a boat. Currents and general changes in the water can make it hard to pinpoint the location of a body. I can't tell you how many times a swift current has moved the body or even the boat caused it to relocate.
It can take hours to locate a body, or even days. We have a dive team on hand to go right in, once we make a determination, by playing a buoy outside the boat to mark the spot. A diver should be ready to search as soon as the dog indicates to increase the changes of making the recovery.

They were used in the Lori Hacking case....

Cadaver dogs and investigators have combed through approximately half of the 3,000 tons of trash in the section of the landfill where police believe Lori's body lies, Stanford said.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20040810/ai_n11468110

From the Fbi handbook of Cadaver dogs they say this

WHEN TO SAY NO:
"Some proposed search areas ARE NOT FEASIBLE for search by the K9 team. A prime example is a landfill where WASTE MATERIALS are deposited, where there is an abundance of DECAYING ORGANIC MATTER."
(Also, hazardous materials may pose a danger to dogs and their handler.)

If a landfill, in the open air, with adequate oxygen and ventilation isn't feasible or conducive to accuracy or feasibility, than neither would be a trunk that housed rotting garbage for 2 weeks.

Same only different, really.

Dogs can and will be affected by certain environmental factors. Rotting garbage is such a factor.

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2001/november2001/nov01p23.htm
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/orlando-fl/T4I8QV67PFAA8II3Q

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 10:03 PM
I just got done watching Nancy Grace. I really used to love watching her show but she is starting to irritate me and my S/O. She is getting more rude and not caring about anyone's feelings or opinions. Why have defense attorney's on your show if you don't care to hear their opinion and when they give one you are rude to them and cut them off and rude again.

Although the one defense attorney that is out of Atlanta was a bit on the ditzy side tonight when she said Casey may not have known Caylee was missing when she sent those text messages. DUH!! She knew. She told LE Caylee was taken on the 9th which we know was wrong.

S/O thinks Casey has or had no perception of dates because she was living the lifestyle she was living. She had no job she was free to do what she wanted when she wanted after getting rid of Caylee so dates were not something she needed to retain. Unless it's a LIE then Casey doesn't have to know it or remember it. I tend to agree.

Another thing. When NG' show was coming on she said LE believe Caylee was placed in a dumpster at the Amscot but during the show itself she did not go into that other than to ask Padilla about it.

Do LE believe Casey put Caylee in that dumpster or not?

Last but not least in this post of mine. Why does NG keep running the same bits of the tapes/audio of Casey being questioned over and over and over again?
My S/O has them memorized now because of that. It's getting annoying. They need to start giving updated info and audio not the same stuff for over a week.

OneUp
09-24-2008, 10:03 PM
IIRC, a jose went out of his way to let everyone know that there would be no letter delivering, as that was not legit. jmo

the good news is, cindy didn't tell the press :shrug:

"the good news is, cindy didn't tell the press"
Not THAT is some truely SHOCKING news!
IMO.

day2day
09-24-2008, 10:04 PM
For anyone interested...

Mark NeJame's firm will be posting all documents pertaining to the Caylee Anthony Trust Fund on a website in the coming days.

'We have determined it best that the information be available for the entire public to see.'

The above is from an email I received from Mark NeJame's law firm.

Thank you LandShark!! I wonder if it will show deposits fromt the Publix parking lot and the checks and gift cards sent to the Anthony's home?
hammer
I also thought by law they were suppposed to be available to the public. :shrug:

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 10:04 PM
For anyone interested...

Mark NeJame's firm will be posting all documents pertaining to the Caylee Anthony Trust Fund on a website in the coming days.

'We have determined it best that the information be available for the entire public to see.'

The above is from an email I received from Mark NeJame's law firm.


Interesting! Thanks LS :seeya:

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 10:04 PM
OMG did you just see NG turn her head SIDEWAYS after Renee Rockwell basicly answered a question with such correctness and authority that NG absolutely could not dismiss her w/ words, so just turned her head? Man, she ca be a u know what. She cannot stand to be wrong, if she is ZAP you don't exist, MAybe she understands a little bit of what Casey is about afterall. Bet her hubby never wins one in that house!!!!Nancy is an ex-prosecutor.
What I don't get is why anyone watches when they hold such a nasty opinion of her. So who appointed those two talking heads the final authority? They know their roles before they appear.

I recall that Scott Peterson's behavior after the crime played very heavily in his trial.

imo

Pruddennce
09-24-2008, 10:05 PM
Wasn't Lee using her phone to contact people? He was the Anthony's lead detective after all.

jmho

thank you for stating that.....that is what he fancied himself and even was cocky to infer he was so ahead of everything: the passage in the interview where he tells LE he told Amy "Im one step ahead of you'...after she called him inquiring about her car key...(page 26)

and then laughs....AGAIN

he's so :cool: ???

also, the way he dodged LE when questioned if LE knew at that time he went collected her stuff.....what a dance he did.

and more importantly, it appears after reading that portion that LE DID go and collect her phone, jeez, it seems that way, at 11pm, brought it back, and thats when Lee made calls, and THEN:

Lee left and went to the apt at midnight and came back 2.5 hours later with her stuff....

page 22
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf


best regards,
Pru

tiny paw-prints
09-24-2008, 10:05 PM
LOL Dang that Lee, he just can't keep a secret can he?

and he "giggles" when he's spilling the secrets! lol

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 10:05 PM
I think that headline says it all, right there...

Yep. No calls or text messages concerning Caylee but those 2.. Telling indeed.

Velouria
09-24-2008, 10:06 PM
For anyone interested...

Mark NeJame's firm will be posting all documents pertaining to the Caylee Anthony Trust Fund on a website in the coming days.

'We have determined it best that the information be available for the entire public to see.'

The above is from an email I received from Mark NeJame's law firm.

Oh good. :)

In addition to the official bank records of the trust, I wonder if there will be complete documentation of the donation receipts from the Publix booth, Lee's PayPay account, and the money and gift cards sent directly the the Anthonys' home??

Or will it be a case of , "Let us not speak of the donations outside the normal scope of things"?

OneUp
09-24-2008, 10:06 PM
For anyone interested...

Mark NeJame's firm will be posting all documents pertaining to the Caylee Anthony Trust Fund on a website in the coming days.

'We have determined it best that the information be available for the entire public to see.'

The above is from an email I received from Mark NeJame's law firm.Now, THAT is a smart move IMO...
Aren't you just green Baez? That's how a real lawyer works....If you can't hide it then find a way to embrace it.
JMO.

marinewife5
09-24-2008, 10:07 PM
"the good news is, cindy didn't tell the press"
Not THAT is some truely SHOCKING news!
IMO.

i can just see her fuming now...the ONE thing she managed to not run her mouth about!

how sad how quickly the family went into "cover casey" mode. poor caylee's days were numbered the day she was born, and if any of the anthony's could have stood up to Miss Information, caylee could still be here. jmo

bchand
09-24-2008, 10:07 PM
For anyone interested...

Mark NeJame's firm will be posting all documents pertaining to the Caylee Anthony Trust Fund on a website in the coming days.

'We have determined it best that the information be available for the entire public to see.'

The above is from an email I received from Mark NeJame's law firm.

Thanks LandShark - I guess they continue to "not get it". No one believes a thing that comes from that family or their attorney.
Are they going to include $$ sent directly to Lee's paypal acct?

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 10:07 PM
...Something is really bothering me. Everyone "thought" Casey worked. Everyone "thought" Casey had a nanny...WHERE was Caylee when Casey was supposedly at work? Casey told the detectives that she had dropped Caylee off on those stairs at Sawgrass lots of times. Who did she give her to-and why? Wasn't it Ricardo who said he went to bed with Caylee and Casey and woke up with only Casey? Where did she take Caylee to?

I am gonna have more nightmares...


I am of the opinion that before Caylee went missing that Casey told her parents that she worked nights and they would watch Caylee while Casey went off to "work" which was really to party.

After Caylee disappeared IMO she went from friend to friends houses.

This is just IMO

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 10:08 PM
...Something is really bothering me. Everyone "thought" Casey worked. Everyone "thought" Casey had a nanny...WHERE was Caylee when Casey was supposedly at work? Casey told the detectives that she had dropped Caylee off on those stairs at Sawgrass lots of times. Who did she give her to-and why? Wasn't it Ricardo who said he went to bed with Caylee and Casey and woke up with only Casey? Where did she take Caylee to?

I am gonna have more nightmares...


IMO I think most of the time Caylee was with Cindy or George, she just told her friends she was with the nanny, and Cindy thought she was a work.

The few times she wasnt' with them I think she just found a friend to watch her. But after June 16th I don't think she required a nanny or babysitter anymore unfortunatly.:(

marshmallow
09-24-2008, 10:08 PM
For anyone interested...

Mark NeJame's firm will be posting all documents pertaining to the Caylee Anthony Trust Fund on a website in the coming days.

'We have determined it best that the information be available for the entire public to see.'

The above is from an email I received from Mark NeJame's law firm.



I'm not concerned with the monies in trust w/ reputable firms and banks. I'm concerned with the money sent to Lee Anthony's paypal and directly to the family. I think people were duped and that money wasn't applied to searching for Caylee but went to the family to spend on themselves instead.

bchand
09-24-2008, 10:08 PM
Oh good. :)

In addition to the official bank records of the trust, I wonder if there will be complete documentation of the donation receipts from the Publix booth, Lee's PayPay account, and the money and gift cards sent directly the the Anthonys' home??

Or will it be a case of , "Let us not speak of the donations outside the normal scope of things"?

Exactly what I meant. Too little, too late.

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 10:09 PM
For anyone interested...

Mark NeJame's firm will be posting all documents pertaining to the Caylee Anthony Trust Fund on a website in the coming days.

'We have determined it best that the information be available for the entire public to see.'

The above is from an email I received from Mark NeJame's law firm.

Thanks Landie. I'm not going to ask why his firm would send you the email. Unless ya want to devulge that information of your own volition via PM. :D J/K

kakax
09-24-2008, 10:09 PM
Nancy is an ex-prosecutor.
What I don't get is why anyone watches when they hold such a nasty opinion of her. So who appointed those two talking heads the final authority? They know their roles before they appear.

I recall that Scott Peterson's behavior after the crime played very heavily in his trial.

imo

I like it to get the news. It is the only show right now that devotes more than a blip to this case. It irritates me that she doesn't let people finish their sentences. I want to hear what they have to say!!

Squeekie
09-24-2008, 10:10 PM
I swear I just watched the whole show of Nancy and at the top of the hour she mentioned Zenaida Gonzalez filing a defamation suit.

That was it? Or did I miss a clip later in the show on it?

I know it's mentioned in this link -

http://www.local6.com/news/17551313/detail.html

kakax
09-24-2008, 10:10 PM
One would think the documentation should show the checks & gift cards collected at the Publilx parking lot.

Below is more from the email I received.

All of the trust documents, statements and transfers are being completed. Unfortunately, it is taking a bit more time than expected to work through this. I expect this to be done in a matter of a couple of days. We have decided that it will be best to post all of the documents on a website, so that all the information is made available to the public.

That is so great that you are emailing him!! I'm guessing he knows your position on things rofl!!

hamebone
09-24-2008, 10:11 PM
thank you for stating that.....that is what he fancied himself and even was cocky to infer he was so ahead of everything: the passage in the interview where he tells LE he told Amy "Im one step ahead of you'...after she called him inquiring about her car key...(page 26)

and then laughs....AGAIN

he's so :cool: ???

also, the way he dodged LE when questioned if LE knew at that time he went collected her stuff.....what a dance he did.

and more importantly, it appears after reading that portion that LE DID go and collect her phone, jeez, it seems that way, at 11pm, brought it back, and thats when Lee made calls, and THEN:

Lee left and went to the apt at midnight and came back 2.5 hours later with her stuff....

page 22
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf


best regards,
Pru

HEY PRU!
and what was LE trying to ask ...when they asked LEE about some pictures that were posted on her photobucket account...but not from her laptop...did you get the impression that they have some evidence that they were posted from his computer??? or is it just me misreading?

day2day
09-24-2008, 10:11 PM
I am of the opinion that before Caylee went missing that Casey told her parents that she worked nights and they would watch Caylee while Casey went off to "work" which was really to party.

After Caylee disappeared IMO she went from friend to friends houses.

This is just IMO

I pray you are right KKKatie!! Nice to "see" you! :seeya:

bchand
09-24-2008, 10:11 PM
One would think the documentation should show the checks & gift cards collected at the Publilx parking lot.

Below is more from the email I received.

All of the trust documents, statements and transfers are being completed. Unfortunately, it is taking a bit more time than expected to work through this. I expect this to be done in a matter of a couple of days. We have decided that it will be best to post all of the documents on a website, so that all the information is made available to the public.

Didn't we hear the amt was only about $2,500? How hard would that be to acct for? I can't wait to see this website.

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 10:14 PM
HEY PRU!
and what was LE trying to ask ...when they asked LEE about some pictures that were posted on her photobucket account...but not from her laptop...did you get the impression that they have some evidence that they were posted from his computer??? or is it just me misreading?I recall way, waaay back that either Casey or Lee said that Lee posts the pics for Casey. imo

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 10:14 PM
Thank you LandShark!! I wonder if it will show deposits fromt the Publix parking lot and the checks and gift cards sent to the Anthony's home?
hammer
I also thought by law they were suppposed to be available to the public. :shrug:



I am not sure , but I believe that it depends on what kind of account it is. This was a trust, not a charity so I don't think it has that responsibility.

I am Canadian eh so the law could be different. I think the account was no different than any trust except that because it was to "help find Caylee" that is what the trust has to be used for. Any stipulations would be set before the account was open.moo

trich
09-24-2008, 10:14 PM
So did I but its coming up again.:shrug:



Well I think Caylee was put in a dumpster but not the one at Amscot.
I don't think she would hve had the nerve to put it in the one there where she left the car.
I think she put her in some other dumpster .....if they don't know which one the gps does not help at all IMO.

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 10:15 PM
One would think the documentation should show the checks & gift cards collected at the Publilx parking lot.

Below is more from the email I received.

All of the trust documents, statements and transfers are being completed. Unfortunately, it is taking a bit more time than expected to work through this. I expect this to be done in a matter of a couple of days. We have decided that it will be best to post all of the documents on a website, so that all the information is made available to the public.


I don't think that the problem peole have is with what they spent that was actually put into the fund. i think the problem is that money was sent to them directly and was not put into the fund. I could be wrong but I am not sure. I do await the web site to publish the information to see what they have to say and what they reveal.

desmom
09-24-2008, 10:16 PM
Between phone calls, College Son and friends in and out, cooking supper and friends dropping by, I have tried to make a calendar of events from the 9-23-08 release of documents. I have not proofed because I am brain dead. I was having trouble keeping all the dates straight. If you see any errors, please feel free to correct them. TIA

January 23, 2008
Caylee runs into table at Ricardo’s causing a bruise under her eye. Page 103

February 2008
Ricardo and Casey start dating. Pages 100 - 101

April 2008
Casey & Caylee spend the night at Ricardo’s. When he wakes in the morning Caylee is not there. Casey said she took her home in the middle of the night when her mother called. Page 111
Casey & Ricardo break up in mid – April. Pages 100 – 101 Break up may have been April 14. Page 126

Ricardo stated as long as he as know Casey she was an Event Coordinator for Universal. Casey mentions the Nanny Zani a couple of times while dating Ricardo. He never met the nanny or was with Casey when she dropped off Caylee. He does not recall any phone calls between Casey and the nanny.
Pages 100 - 101

May 14, 2008
Amy, Ricardo, Troy and Casey go out that evening. Page 40 – 41; Page 132
Casey has 2 flat tires. She calls Ricardo & Troy for help. Page 40; Pages 104 – 105; Page 132
Casey tries to drive home on a spare and a flat. She left the car in residential neighborhood. Ricardo and Troy drove her home. Page 135

May 24, 2008
Tony talks to Casey on phone about party is working. Page 7 – 8
Ricardo goes to Tampa Page 105
Casey, Amy & Troy go to Buffalo Wings. Page 41; Page 136
Casey, Amy & Troy attend party and met Tony. Page 7 – 8; Page 136

May 25, 2008
No Clothing Party at UCF. Troy, Amy & Casey attend party. Page 42; Page 136
Brandon at party, Casey upset – claims she had miscarriage with Brandon. Page 42; Page 136

May 29, 2008
Casey and Caylee spent the night at Ricardo’s. Page 105

May 30, 2008
Casey and Caylee stay at Ricardo’s apt. Page 43 and Page 105
Amy in Tallahassee. Page 43

May 24 – 31, 2008
Casey turns down invite from Tony because Casey was with nanny because Caylee was asleep, woke up so Casey couldn’t go. Page 9

May 31, 3008
Tony working – Arden Villas Pool Page. Casey met him there. Page 9
Casey leaves to meet friend at Arden Villas and returns 30 minutes later with Jesse. Page 10
Weather turns nasty; Casey & Tony go to movies. Casey did not spend night with Tony. Page 11

desmom
09-24-2008, 10:17 PM
June 1, 2008
Amy returns from Tallahassee. She was living with Troy in Oviedo. Page 43.
Amy, Ricardo, Troy and JP go to Rock Star Karaoke at Voyage. Page 43 – 44; Pages 106
Tony & Casey attend barbeque at Tony’s friend house, lst time intimate, Casey did not stay. Pages 12 - 14

June 2, 2008
Ricardo and Casey break-up. Page 44
Casey and Caylee go to Tony’s apt. She brings food. Page 14 – 15
4:52 p.m. Tony takes picture of Caylee at pool at his apt. complex. Page 3

June 4, 2008
Troy’s B-day party – Amy, Ricardo, Troy’s friends attend. Page 44; Page 137
Casey, Tony, Clint and C’s girlfriend go to Troy’s bday party and met up with Amy.
Casey did not spend the night because her mom would not let her. Page 17 – 18

June 5, 2008
Troy’s actual birthday – Amy, Ricardo & Troy go to Dancers Royale. Page 44 – 45; Page 138

June 6, 2008
Amy totals her car. Page 45
Ricardo and Casey have plans for dinner, Ricardo cooking, Casey cancelled due to work. Page 106
Casey goes to Fusion. Page 45

June 7, 2008
Amy moves into Ricardo’s and starts sleeping on the couch. Page 45
Casey & Caylee come to Ricardo’s at 2100 hours and spends the night. Page 108

June 9, 2008
Casey takes Tony to pick up his Jeep from the mechanic. Page 16
Tony, Casey & Caylee met at Subway. Casey buys for the 3. Page 16
Casey & Caylee spend the night at Ricardo’s apt. Page 46; Pages 109 – 110
Last time Ricardo & Casey were intimate Page 125
Casey starts spending more time at Tony’s during the week Page 17

June 10, 2008
Last time Amy saw Caylee. Page 46
Last time Ricardo saw Caylee Page 112
Last time Troy saw Caylee, he thinks. Page 138
Troy’s in Washington Page 47
Mr. Burner, Anthony’s neighbor, leaves on vacation for Chicago. Page 161

June 11, 2008
Ricardo and Amy go to Voyage. Casey could not go because of work. Page 112
Troy goes to D.C. Page 139

June 11 or 12, 2008
Casey, Caylee and Tony go to Anthony’s house for to change Caylee before going to Mall of Millinnia to promote Tony’s show. They eat at Cheesecake factory. Casey did not spend the night. Page 20 – 21

June 12, 2008
Ricardo goes to Tampa Page 112

June 13, 2008
Amy goes to Jacksonville for another car. Page 47 – 48
George has “mini-stroke” per Casey and she can’t go to Jacksonville with Amy. Page 47 – 48; Page 113
Ricardo returns from Tampa. Page 112
Casey invites Amy to Fusion. Page 48; Invites Ricardo Page 113
Casey and Tony attend hip-hop showcase at Fusion Ultra Lounge. Page 21 – 22
Amy does not see Casey again until June 30. Communication is phone calls or text messages. Page 48

June 16, 2008
Mr. Burner, Anthony’s neighbor, returns from vacation in Chicago. Page 162

June 17, 2008
Mr. Burner, Anthony’s neighbor, notices Casey’s car backing into her parents garage. Page 163

June 18, 2008
Troy returns from DC Page 139

June 19, 2008
Casey texts Troy about going to Fusion on June 20. Page 139

June 18 – 19, 2008
Mr. Burner, Anthony’s neighbor, is doing yard work. Casey asks to borrow shovel. Car backed into garage. Page 164 – 168

June 20, 2008
Troy declines Casey’s invitation via phone call. Page 139
Mr. Burner, Anthony’s neighbor, sees Casey’s car backed up into the garage. Page 167

June 22 – 28, 2008
Tony says Casey ran out of gas twice. Can’t remember dates. One day he took her to her parents to get gas cans and 2nd time he picked her up at Amscot (June 27, IMO) Page 22
Tony thinks she spent most nights at his house during this time. Page 23

June 23, 2008
Neighbor thinks he heard Casey at her parents. Casey and male with brown hair walked into the garage. Pages 170 - 171

June 24, 2008
Casey leaves facebook message for at 1240 hours for Troy re Casey & Amy have not moved…”He$$, in the past nine days I haven’t even been living at the house. Drama. I’ll fill you in later.” Page 140
George tells neighbor, Mr. Burner, someone stole gas from his garage. Page 169

June 26, 2008
Casey spends night with Tony Page 22

June 27, 2008
Tony picks up Casey at Amscot. Page 22 – 24
Tony & Casey go to “the club” Page 24
Casey calls Amy and tells her about the horrible smell in her car and that Casey had ran out of gas again – 2 Fridays in a row, Caylee was at the beach with Nanny and Grandma (Cindy) Page 50 – 52
Ricardo receives Facebook message from Casey asking if Ricardo, Will, Troy, Amy and JP want to get a beer together on the 28th at the beer thing downtown. Casey did not show. Page 116

June 28, 2008
Casey stays with Tony. Page 25
Casey texts Amy and ask if she has gas cans. Page 53
Waterford receipt - 7:15 p.m. $16.00

June 29, 2008
Casey stays with Tony. Page 25

June 30, 2008
Casey takes Tony to airport. Tony flies to NY. Page 25
Cameron, Tony’s roommate, flies to OH. Page 25
Casey shows up at Ricardo & Amy’s.
Casey asks again if Amy has a gas can.They go to Target and buy a gas can. They use Tony’s Jeep. Page 53
Casey is with Amy until she goes to work between 5 – 6 p.m. Page 54
J.C. Penney receipt – 6:10 p.m. $73.40 credit card
Target receipt – 8:56 p.m. $7.49 cash

day2day
09-24-2008, 10:17 PM
I am not sure , but I believe that it depends on what kind of account it is. This was a trust, not a charity so I don't think it has that responsibility.

I am Canadian eh so the law could be different. I think the account was no different than any trust except that because it was to "help find Caylee" that is what the trust has to be used for. Any stipulations would be set before the account was open.moo

It will be interesting to see just what the funds were used for. I am pretty sure they can account for the funds IN the trust..its the ones that didn't make it -that people are worried about.

:shrug:

desmom
09-24-2008, 10:17 PM
July 1, 2008
Casey has her nails done. Page 55
Casey spends the night at Ricardo’s on the couch – no Caylee Page 111; Page 117
J.C. Penney receipt – 4:17 p.m. $31.93 credit card

July 2, 2008
Amy & Casey go to clubs. Page 56
Ricardo goes to Boston. Page 118 – 119
Troy drops Ricardo at airport and picks up friend, Melissa, flying in to Orlando. Page 140
Troy and Melissa go to Voyage; run into Casey, Amy, Melissa Page 140-141
Ross receipt – 8:06 p.m. $37.23 cash

July 3, 2008
Troy has to work; Casey and Melissa spend approx. 5 hours together. Caylee not mentioned. Page
Casey gets a tattoo. Page 141 - 142
Troy, Melissa and Casey go to the Lodge. Casey receives call from brother, Lee. She wants to leave. Page 142 – 143
Teen Chore (?? Can’t read writing) receipt 6:09 p.m. $10.64 cash
Anchor Blue receipt 6:43 p.m. $21.28 cash
Target receipt – 7:15 p.m. $15.98 cash

July 4, 2008
Amy & Casey go to Will’s to decorate for party. Page 179
Casey & Amy party at Will’s Page 59
Casey tells Will she has a daughter. Page 180
Watch fireworks at Lake Eola; Casey talks to Tony during fireworks. Page 181
Casey spends night with Amy. Page 54
Troy & Melissa go to Sarasota Page 143
Target receipt – 12:19 p.m. $12.71 cash

July 5, 2008
Casey clicking on computer, happy Tony is coming home. Page 60
Casey goes to see Will at 0930; he showers, they go out to eat, go to IKEA; Casey leaves Page 183 – 185
Casey calls Will and talks to him all the way to airport to pick up Tony. Page 195 - 196
Tony flies home, Casey picks him up at the airport in his Jeep. Page 26
Tony & Casey goes to Buffalo Wild Wings to meet Casey’s friends & the UFC fights. Page 28
Troy & Melissa return from Sarasota. Page 143
July 5, 2008
Casey starts living full time at Tony’s Page 4 of 9-23-08 Documents
Best Buy receipt – 5:13 p.m. $14.90 cash
Citro Car Wash receipt – 5:41 p.m. $ 4.00 cash

July 6, 2008
Tony goes to airport later to pick up Cameron. Page 27
Troy & Melissa go bowling. Casey texts says she is coming over. She does not show. Page 143
Winn Dixie receipt – 5:54 p.m. $11.61 cash
Publix receipt – 5:32 p.m. $59.14 cash

July 7, 2008
Target receipt – 5:16 p.m. $ 4.18 cash
Waterford (sp) Hancock receipt – 8:00 p.m. $8.00

July 8, 2008
Casey drives Amy to airport at approximately 0630 hours. Page 60
Ricardo returns from Boston. Page 119
Casey offered to pick up Ricardo. He had another flight in 5 hours. Page 123
Ricardo flies to Puerto Rico. Page 124
Target WL receipt - 11:59 p.m. $111.01 check

July 10, 2008
Target WL receipt – 12:00 p.m. $155.47 check
Target (Univ) receipt – 10:33 a.m. $137.77 check

July 10 – 11, 2008
Casey tells Troy she was shopping for a car. Page 134
Troy asks Casey if she is still going to Puerto Rico. Page 143
Casey has plans with Will for helicopter ride to Saw Island. Casey cancelled via text mail saying she could not make it because she was with “Na-Naw”. Page 186 - 188

July 11, 2008
Troy leaves for Puerto Rico. Page 134
Casey texts Will and asks if he wants to hang out. Pages 190 – 191

July 12, 2008
Winn Dixie receipt – 9:38 p.m. $92.62 check

July 13, 2008
Waterford Hellboyz receipt – 5:10 p.m. $ 8.00
Blockbuster receipt – 5:30 p.m. $13.40 cash

July 14-15, 2008
Ricardo receives text from Casey “Who’s going to pick you up?” Page 124

July 15, 2008
Casey picks up Amy at airport; Amy takes Casey to Tony’s; Amy goes back to airport to pick up Ricardo, Troy and JP at airport. Page 61
Casey tells Will she is getting a rental car. Page 186
JP wants Iphone and Amy goes with him to Florida Mall. Page 62
Cindy calls Amy; picks up Amy at Mall; Amy directs her to Tony’s Page 62
Cindy calls Amy at 2300 hours to report Caylee is missing. Page 75
Tony called Amy from Casey’s phone. Page 75
Winn Dixie receipt – 6:04 p.m. $88.45 cash

July 16, 2008
Casey texts Tony, “If they never find her guess who spends eternity in jail?” Page 77
Casey arrested.

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 10:17 PM
I like it to get the news. It is the only show right now that devotes more than a blip to this case. It irritates me that she doesn't let people finish their sentences. I want to hear what they have to say!!LE did the same thing in their interviews. I feel the same way about that....

Like Nancy or not, it's her show. O'Reilley isn't lovable either, but he's very big in the line up on FOX. Rush Limbaugh has a huge following, too.

That's show biz. :shrug:

imo

playnice
09-24-2008, 10:19 PM
Since Z case will be a civil case, won't Casey have to take the stand?

Pruddennce
09-24-2008, 10:20 PM
I think the giggling may be nerves ..

He may have taken so long because he was talking to Tony? :shrug:

nerves? I respectfully disagree. its a facade: casual to the point of ridiculous....chuckles to infer 'its no biggy'...chuckles to elevate himself....its a smug chuckle. *all you people dont know nuttin* attitude, because Im on top of everything and I have ALL the important info....

I saw him taken down a flight of stairs in his interview with LE.

tumble, tumble....in between his chuckling.

LE saw it. IMO

I dont know much, but after listening to him in person on MANY occasions, I recognize SMUG when I see it. it wasnt nerves...it was containment.

IMO


best regards,
Pru

barskin&co.
09-24-2008, 10:22 PM
Since Z case will be a civil case, won't Casey have to take the stand?

No, she can always take the fifth in a civil case if anything might have to testify to might incriminate her in a criminal case. If she were tried and acquitted of all criminal charges, then she could be forced to testify (like someone else had to, now what was his name, oh yeah, OJ).

OneUp
09-24-2008, 10:23 PM
Didn't we hear the amt was only about $2,500? How hard would that be to acct for? I can't wait to see this website.
I had the same thoughts re. the amount.
If this trust has been dealt with properly and has no "concerns", shouldn't it have been documented to the cent from day one and thus easy to post and report on?...what needs done to the records before they are publically available? We're talking numbers here, not variable things...
JMO.

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 10:24 PM
Desmom....what an awesome job! Please be sure to post them in the links thread

:seeya:

hamebone
09-24-2008, 10:24 PM
desmom, those are great! I made copies...THANKS!

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 10:24 PM
It will be interesting to see just what the funds were used for. I am pretty sure they can account for the funds IN the trust..its the ones that didn't make it -that people are worried about.

:shrug:


I think the paypal donations would be easy enough to track, but any cash donations or gift cards I don't know. Unless they can show deposits for the cash, I don't know how they would track those.

Are they collecting these at the Publix booths or do you think people are mailing that in?

I honestly don't think many people have donated to the Anthony's in any way.

bchand
09-24-2008, 10:25 PM
Desmom....what an awesome job! Please be sure to post them in the links thread

:seeya:

:seeya: from me too Desmom. Nice job.

StickyBeak
09-24-2008, 10:25 PM
I just got done watching Nancy Grace. I really used to love watching her show but she is starting to irritate me and my S/O. She is getting more rude and not caring about anyone's feelings or opinions. Why have defense attorney's on your show if you don't care to hear their opinion and when they give one you are rude to them and cut them off and rude again.

Although the one defense attorney that is out of Atlanta was a bit on the ditzy side tonight when she said Casey may not have known Caylee was missing when she sent those text messages. DUH!! She knew. She told LE Caylee was taken on the 9th which we know was wrong.

S/O thinks Casey has or had no perception of dates because she was living the lifestyle she was living. She had no job she was free to do what she wanted when she wanted after getting rid of Caylee so dates were not something she needed to retain. Unless it's a LIE then Casey doesn't have to know it or remember it. I tend to agree.

Another thing. When NG' show was coming on she said LE believe Caylee was placed in a dumpster at the Amscot but during the show itself she did not go into that other than to ask Padilla about it.

Do LE believe Casey put Caylee in that dumpster or not?

Last but not least in this post of mine. Why does NG keep running the same bits of the tapes/audio of Casey being questioned over and over and over again?
My S/O has them memorized now because of that. It's getting annoying. They need to start giving updated info and audio not the same stuff for over a week.

I am so disgusted with her show, ITA with your viewpoint, she is out of control. It must be her contract. I have to give her credit for keeping Caylee in the forefront, but her show is nothing but repeat, breaking news, etc. All has been hashed and rehashed. Somebody in that station knows it is all about RATINGS, and guess what, she gets em. IMO Wish she would get with the real world or give it up to someone who could communicate without the bru ha ha. Guess everyone has to pay the piper. Please, what about Caylee Marie Anthony. Where is she?

hamebone
09-24-2008, 10:26 PM
I agree completely.

yeah me to..

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 10:26 PM
No, she can always take the fifth in a civil case if anything might have to testify to might incriminate her in a criminal case. If she were tried and acquitted of all criminal charges, then she could be forced to testify (like someone else had to, now what was his name, oh yeah, OJ).


Evening Barskin :seeya:

I haven't had a chance to read about this yet.....is she sueing just Casey or all the Anthony's?

bchand
09-24-2008, 10:26 PM
I think the paypal donations would be easy enough to track, but any cash donations or gift cards I don't know. Unless they can show deposits for the cash, I don't know how they would track those.

Are they collecting these at the Publix booths or do you think people are mailing that in?

I honestly don't think many people have donated to the Anthony's in any way.

Well we know George has been standing out there collecting $$. Who keeps track of that? (I agree I don't think people have donated to this cause as they have in most other cases.)

Because it's fishy !

margaret kep
09-24-2008, 10:27 PM
i can just see her fuming now...the ONE thing she managed to not run her mouth about!

how sad how quickly the family went into "cover casey" mode. poor caylee's days were numbered the day she was born, and if any of the anthony's could have stood up to Miss Information, caylee could still be here. jmo



In regard to Caylee being born in 8-05, Jessie G. states he first was intimate with Casey in 11-04 or 12-04 but didn't know her amd that's why he thought he was baby's daddy. And right after that statement he states he met her the first time in January of 05. :confused:

day2day
09-24-2008, 10:27 PM
I had the same thoughts re. the amount.
If this trust has been dealt with properly and has no "concerns", shouldn't it have been documented to the cent from day one and thus easy to post and report on?...what needs done to the records before they are publically available? We're talking numbers here, not variable things...
JMO.

ITA! Obviously they just don't get it. Bichler & Kelley are still listed. IMO some of the trust fund money used will be to buy tshirts. The same tshirts they are SELLING on this site. :shrug: I don't know if thats illegal or not. But imo its wrong.
:chicken:

bookie
09-24-2008, 10:31 PM
Since Z case will be a civil case, won't Casey have to take the stand?



I don't think Zenaida has a case. Casey was shown her picture and said that wasn't Zenaida. And there is more than one Zenaida in the area.

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 10:31 PM
Well we know George has been standing out there collecting $$. Who keeps track of that? (I agree I don't think people have donated to this cause as they have in most other cases.)

Because it's fishy !


I think they don't donate not because its fishy, because they don't like the Anthony's. If they are collecting money at the stores and stuff they could have someone writing down what has been recieved. I don't know how it works.

I know I had heard that Kidfinders was doing the same thing a block away and I know that the Anthony's are dealing with them. They would probably be doing what KF does.

I want to know, at the Publix is the donation for Caylee or for Kidfinders?

nutterbutter
09-24-2008, 10:31 PM
Flmon, this is the link about Casey selling Caylee to someone in PR. http://www.wftv.com/news/17550086/detail.html

I didn't bother posting it in my original post because it was discussed a few pages before my post, thought everyone had already read it.


JMO

Thanks for the link.I dont think there is any PR connection though.I think that more of Caseytalk.

day2day
09-24-2008, 10:33 PM
I am so disgusted with her show, ITA with your viewpoint, she is out of control. It must be her contract. I have to give her credit for keeping Caylee in the forefront, but her show is nothing but repeat, breaking news, etc. All has been hashed and rehashed. Somebody in that station knows it is all about RATINGS, and guess what, she gets em. IMO Wish she would get with the real world or give it up to someone who could communicate without the bru ha ha. Guess everyone has to pay the piper. Please, what about Caylee Marie Anthony. Where is she?

She should stop by here about 4pm everyday if she wants to know the breaking news! Heck i think BH does! :D She was really rude tonight. Of course i think the defense attornies she had on weren't the brightest. JMO!

Shellberry
09-24-2008, 10:33 PM
Yes, it is dark in FL at 8 pm
I live in fl-its dark more around 8:30


Nancy is getting rude again.. I hate it when she does that. A theory that is in a public report states that the theory is that Caylee died - drown in the pool and was dumped in a dumpster.. Nancy interupts and says, (paraphrased) "no, that doesn't explain the chloroform searches"...

IMO - I really am not sure the chloroform was involved in her death. Why is Nancy so sure about it? I think it could have been used by George to clean the trunk out.

What do you guys think?
well lee said the laptop was cindys, but casey got a hold of it.
for a month she had it?
I still think they could have been looking up the chloro. for the fire ants
casey takes/borrows the laptop
sees an order that was placed online--or maybe logs into cindys email
I dont doubt she knew their passwords.

casey wonders why they are looking that up...and sees what it can do?


It could be but why would anyone have chloroform hanging around in their garage? It is not like you can go to the corner store and buy it. It just doesn't make sense to me :shrug:
again, the fire ants.
The report was that the searches came from Casey's laptop. When do you think George had time to do that, when he went to work after he picked up the car, and LE took it the next morning?

Certainly the FBI found the dates of the searches on the hard drive. The laptop was at Tony's.imo
maybe the searches were before...like when cindy still had the laptop, before casey had posession of it.

dang-these are the crazy little details that LE leaves out for us to ponder.



imo/jmo

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 10:33 PM
:seeya: from me too Desmom. Nice job.And me, too. Fantastic job! Bravo! :cool:

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 10:34 PM
I don't think Zenaida has a case. Casey was shown her picture and said that wasn't Zenaida. And there is more than one Zenaida in the area.


I agree, and didn't the article say that maybe the Anthony's home insurance could pay some of the cost, well it wasn't Cindy and George who said Zenaida it was Casey, plus Cindy and Casey both said that it was the wrong Zenaida.

i think she would have more of a case against webposters who were posting things about her being the real ZFG. JMO


eta not to mention anyone who fired her because of this case she could sue, and Casey said ZFG not ZG.

hamebone
09-24-2008, 10:35 PM
I live in fl-its dark more around 8:30



well lee said the laptop was cindys, but casey got a hold of it.
for a month she had it?
I still think they could have been looking up the chloro. for the fire ants
casey takes/borrows the laptop
sees an order that was placed online--or maybe logs into cindys email
I dont doubt she knew their passwords.

casey wonders why they are looking that up...and sees what it can do?



again, the fire ants.

maybe the searches were before...like when cindy still had the laptop, before casey had posession of it.

dang-these are the crazy little details that LE leaves out for us to ponder.



imo/jmo

If it was for fire ants..why was it found in the trunk...

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 10:35 PM
I live in fl-its dark more around 8:30



well lee said the laptop was cindys, but casey got a hold of it.
for a month she had it?
I still think they could have been looking up the chloro. for the fire ants
casey takes/borrows the laptop
sees an order that was placed online--or maybe logs into cindys email
I dont doubt she knew their passwords.

casey wonders why they are looking that up...and sees what it can do?



again, the fire ants.

maybe the searches were before...like when cindy still had the laptop, before casey had posession of it.

dang-these are the crazy little details that LE leaves out for us to ponder.



imo/jmoIt's illegal to purchase chloroform. Fire ants? I had those. There are many remedies available. Did the Anthonys have fire ants?

day2day
09-24-2008, 10:36 PM
:seeya: from me too Desmom. Nice job.

Great job desmom!! TY!! :seeya:

Pruddennce
09-24-2008, 10:36 PM
HEY PRU!
and what was LE trying to ask ...when they asked LEE about some pictures that were posted on her photobucket account...but not from her laptop...did you get the impression that they have some evidence that they were posted from his computer??? or is it just me misreading?

hey hammy...that WAS an interesting exchange....I dont know if LE was inferring she used his....but they sure were curious enough to ask him 'his opinion"....

LE grilled him about the laptop....and caught him smack in the middle of a lie. about it being turned off. he powered it on he says. and then Lee is asked a little later, "it was sitting there running when you went to get it?" and he says EXACTLY.

page 54 thru 57
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

best regards,
Pru

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 10:36 PM
I don't think Zenaida has a case. Casey was shown her picture and said that wasn't Zenaida. And there is more than one Zenaida in the area.

I think if they can prove she used this Z's information for her tales to LE and media then she will have a case. Otherwise it will be a hard case to prove. Like I said earlier. I'd like to see how the attorney handles this an IF Baez handles civil suits.

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 10:36 PM
And me, too. Fantastic job! Bravo! :cool:



I agree great job, it should be posted with the other info that Lorakai did up for us.

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 10:37 PM
Shellberry.....about the fire ants....can you go to a store in Fl and buy chloroform to take of them?

~jomomma~
09-24-2008, 10:37 PM
Desmom....what an awesome job! Please be sure to post them in the links thread

:seeya:

i agree!!! great job!!!

is there a timeline thread it can go in?

that is awesome work!!

bchand
09-24-2008, 10:37 PM
I think they don't donate not because its fishy, because they don't like the Anthony's. If they are collecting money at the stores and stuff they could have someone writing down what has been recieved. I don't know how it works.

I know I had heard that Kidfinders was doing the same thing a block away and I know that the Anthony's are dealing with them. They would probably be doing what KF does.

I want to know, at the Publix is the donation for Caylee or for Kidfinders?

The last time I heard George was out there, he had pictures of other missing children also BUT it was reported that the donations were for Caylee.

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 10:39 PM
I agree, and didn't the article say that maybe the Anthony's home insurance could pay some of the cost, well it wasn't Cindy and George who said Zenaida it was Casey, plus Cindy and Casey both said that it was the wrong Zenaida.

i think she would have more of a case against webposters who were posting things about her being the real ZFG. JMO


eta not to mention anyone who fired her because of this case she could sue, and Casey said ZFG not ZG.

I agree with you. Her suit would go further with suing those who defamed her on here and other message boards rather than suing Casey. UNLESS they can prove she was using that particular Z's information for her story. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

hamebone
09-24-2008, 10:40 PM
hey hammy...that WAS an interesting exchange....I dont know if LE was inferring she used his....but they sure were curious enough to ask him 'his opinion"....

LE grilled him about the laptop....and caught him smack in the middle of a lie. about it being turned off. he powered it on he says. and then Lee is asked a little later, "it was sitting there running when you went to get it?" and he says EXACTLY.

page 54 thru 57
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

best regards,
Pru

Good catch Pru!

I just wonder if Casey was hanging out some at Lee's home during June 15th - July 15th..on his computer.

desmom
09-24-2008, 10:40 PM
hey hammy...that WAS an interesting exchange....I dont know if LE was inferring she used his....but they sure were curious enough to ask him 'his opinion"....

LE grilled him about the laptop....and caught him smack in the middle of a lie. about it being turned off. he powered it on he says. and then Lee is asked a little later, "it was sitting there running when you went to get it?" and he says EXACTLY.

page 54 thru 57
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

best regards,
Pru

I immediately thought of the kid getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar. jmo

StickyBeak
09-24-2008, 10:40 PM
I think they don't donate not because its fishy, because they don't like the Anthony's. If they are collecting money at the stores and stuff they could have someone writing down what has been recieved. I don't know how it works.

I know I had heard that Kidfinders was doing the same thing a block away and I know that the Anthony's are dealing with them. They would probably be doing what KF does.

I want to know, at the Publix is the donation for Caylee or for Kidfinders?

Good question. IIRC in the beginning when the Anthonys joined KF, they went to rallys for missing children, part of KF's good will so to speak, who put up the funds for the sign GA towed around. I think Cindy,George & Lee spoke out for this organization in Daytona beach. I have not heard of them attending any fundraisers since then. I wonder of KF is under investingation as well. JMO wondering.
This is all so sad, taking out good people who truly supported the searching to Caylee, what they must think now after the release of these docs. I wonder if KF still stands behind them.

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 10:41 PM
Shellberry.....about the fire ants....can you go to a store in Fl and buy chloroform to take of them?I don't think anyone with a child or dogs around would risk putting chloroform anywhere, let alone store it on the property. imo

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 10:41 PM
i agree!!! great job!!!

is there a timeline thread it can go in?

that is awesome work!!

Yes! The Index sticky would be a great place for it

Shellberry
09-24-2008, 10:41 PM
If it was for fire ants..why was it found in the trunk...
who knows
maybe casey ranshaked the shed to clean with whatever she could--or someone tried to clean with whatever they could.

I cant see casey using it to knock caylee out so she can party all night--it isnt a long lasting thing--it would knock her out for 20 minutes at a time at best.
casey wasnt going to go out to the car to knock caylee out every 20 minutes, that would take away from her 'fun'--plus people would wonder why she was going outside all the time.
It's illegal to purchase chloroform. Fire ants? I had those. There are many remedies available. Did the Anthonys have fire ants?

I have fire ants, I live in florida, tell me a remedy that will kill them and keep them away, stopping them from making new hills further up the yard?

thank god my daughter doesnt go where the fire anthills are.
I sure as heck would be looking up anything possible to kill them, their nests and to make sure they stay away.

fire ants, alligators, snakes and little lizards are a given in FL.


imo/jmo

Pruddennce
09-24-2008, 10:41 PM
I immediately thought of the kid getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar. jmo

well put....I agree with you.

best regards,
Pru

barskin&co.
09-24-2008, 10:41 PM
And me, too. Fantastic job! Bravo! :cool:

From me, as well.

Desmom indexes, catologues and timelines the latest documents.

The Message Board Reacts! (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/199004/applaud.gif)

desmom
09-24-2008, 10:42 PM
i agree!!! great job!!!

is there a timeline thread it can go in?

that is awesome work!!


You are all welcome. I posted it in the links thread.

There may be some errors (I hope not), so just remember it is .... jmo. :biggrin:

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 10:43 PM
I don't think anyone with a child or dogs around would risk putting chloroform anywhere, let alone store it on the property. imo

I don't think so either Joan

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 10:43 PM
hey hammy...that WAS an interesting exchange....I dont know if LE was inferring she used his....but they sure were curious enough to ask him 'his opinion"....

LE grilled him about the laptop....and caught him smack in the middle of a lie. about it being turned off. he powered it on he says. and then Lee is asked a little later, "it was sitting there running when you went to get it?" and he says EXACTLY.

page 54 thru 57
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

best regards,
PruHey Pru, you are excellent. You get your sleuthing diploma, and I want to be in your class.

See, LE asks the same questions in different ways, to elicit the truth. :cool:

Shellberry
09-24-2008, 10:44 PM
I don't think anyone with a child or dogs around would risk putting chloroform anywhere, let alone store it on the property. imo
that is where the locks on the shed start being used?


Shellberry.....about the fire ants....can you go to a store in Fl and buy chloroform to take of them?
I dont know
one- I never knew about it to kill them until this case.
two-I never tried to buy it anywhere

I doubt you can go out and buy it--but you can make it from 2 VERY COMMON household ingredients.


If I absolutely needed to use it, I'd try making it myself first before wasting money online for it.

imo/jmo

Rebel Rouzer
09-24-2008, 10:45 PM
Great job on the chronological synopsis of new and old details and discovery documents desmom

:beer: Thank you. :beer:

Lostgirl
09-24-2008, 10:46 PM
In regard to Caylee being born in 8-05, Jessie G. states he first was intimate with Casey in 11-04 or 12-04 but didn't know her amd that's why he thought he was baby's daddy. And right after that statement he states he met her the first time in January of 05. :confused:

I figured that meant he ______ed her but didnt know her

like saw her at a bar and wound up doing it with her and didnt know her other than she was some chick he did

then he met her and found out who she was and actually got to know her months later?

bookie
09-24-2008, 10:46 PM
I think if they can prove she used this Z's information for her tales to LE and media then she will have a case. Otherwise it will be a hard case to prove. Like I said earlier. I'd like to see how the attorney handles this an IF Baez handles civil suits.


We haven't heard that she used any information of Zenaida's, just her name and with all of the documents released I believe we'd have heard if she used any info other then the name. When shown a picture of Zenaida she said that it wasn't her so I don't know how a lawyer plans to sue Casey. I haven't read the whole article yet. Has an attorney taken the case or is it just talk?

Shellberry
09-24-2008, 10:48 PM
I don't think so either Joan

maybe any normal family wouldnt store it--but we arent talking about normal here.


anything is possible with them



imo/jmo

Joan Weiss
09-24-2008, 10:48 PM
that is where the locks on the shed start being used?



I dont know
one- I never knew about it to kill them until this case.
two-I never tried to buy it anywhere

I doubt you can go out and buy it--but you can make it from 2 VERY COMMON household ingredients.


If I absolutely needed to use it, I'd try making it myself first before wasting money online for it.

imo/jmoWell, since it's illegal, why not just admit you don't want to get in trouble? ;)

I don't think George had time to get that together to clean the car. imo

luvinlife
09-24-2008, 10:52 PM
You may be right ADVERSE PARTY,
At first I thought Casey stole at a party or from a friend, then looked it up on the net to see what uses it was for or how much money she could get for it and in some way Caley got it in her system and OD`d......threw up in the process was put in the trunk and that is where the contact was made.........

HOWEVER why where there flies alive in that trunk at the tow yard?........Was it Cindy who introduced the CH by trying to clean up the trunk?......did she then do searches on the net to see if she could of successfully degraded DNA.......maybe she got the stuff in the beginning in some way with her nursing job or when she helped move her dad to the nursing home......maybe he had an old container of it?.....who knows but I also wonder why about the same time the Chloroform evidence comes out C&G hire ONE defense lawyer?? Is he really just going to represent ONE of them?

Why did LE "LEAK" the CH testing to begin with? Did they want to see what the Anthonys reaction would be? Did they want to see if someone would come forward with the origin of the CH? Did their LEAK work for them?


I thought Dr Kobilinski said that chloroform was used to help extract dna in the lab, if that is true then it wouldnt get rid of dna, it would help keep it no?
moo

KKKKKKatie
09-24-2008, 10:52 PM
maybe any normal family wouldnt store it--but we arent talking about normal here.


anything is possible with them



imo/jmo


Very true LOL But I think I will wait to see just when the computer search was for it before I discount that Casey got it.