Wed. night/evening 9-24 day100

[frances1]

It will be interesting to see just what the funds were used for. I am pretty sure they can account for the funds IN the trust..its the ones that didn't make it -that people are worried about.

:shrug:

Does anyone else remember early in the case when George and Cindy would visit Casey they took a limousine several times? I thought I read then that that expense was coming from donations.

[luvinlife]

Does anyone else remember early in the case when George and Cindy would visit Casey they took a limousine several times? I thought I read then that that expense was coming from donations.

I don't know about that, but I am pretty sure that most big news orgs will send a limo for an interview.

[kakax]

:seeya: from me too Desmom. Nice job.

Excellent job!! I wonder if we could put this in calendar form with the calendar here!! Ty so much for doing all of this!

[Pruddennce]

Hey Pru, you are excellent. You get your sleuthing diploma, and I want to be in your class.

See, LE asks the same questions in different ways, to elicit the truth. :cool:

lol, im a classmate Joan. That interview was spectacular IMO. and it cleared up alot of muddied thoughts I had about him. pretty clear now.

anyone that has heard him speak, along with his body language, the smiles, well....Ill stop there...

best regards,
Pru

[Cury-us Coyote]

Thanks Desmom -

Great Job with the transcript based timeline. Will tried to absorb it later. Did you observe any conflicting dates among their statements? IMO a couple of the individuals had talked among themselves before providing LE statements - which should lead to fewer differences but were their memories influenced or simply aided by others and group think? LE may verify each statement date via other technological means, IMO.

[day2day]

Does anyone else remember early in the case when George and Cindy would visit Casey they took a limousine several times? I thought I read then that that expense was coming from donations.

GET outta here! They took a LIMO?! TO JAIL? ...YOU must be kidding...:punch: <----for Detective George and Nurse Cindy..

pfft...

[Shellberry]

Well, since it's illegal, why not just admit you don't want to get in trouble? ;)

I don't think George had time to get that together to clean the car. imo

ok its illegal, me get in trouble for what :shrug:
I dont have any, I dont use any, I dont make any, I havent bought any.

as I said in a previous post and in posts about it in days past, if my daughter went to the spot in our yard where the fire ants were, I would get whatever I could to rid us of them.


is it even illegal? dentists still use it dont they?

whatever, I'M not the one whose daughter is missing here.

I could give 2 craps about the chloroform-just saying why someone other than casey could have had it/looked into it on cindys laptop.

imo/jmo

[nutterbutter]

No not me, I think ,I did read somewhere that the garbage truck had a GPS tracking and they checked the dumpsite..?? or did I dream that?
I remember that also so if you dreamed it I guess I did also.lol
moo

[luvinlife]

ok its illegal, me get in trouble for what :shrug:
I dont have any, I dont use any, I dont make any, I havent bought any.

as I said in a previous post and in posts about it in days past, if my daughter went to the spot in our yard where the fire ants were, I would get whatever I could to rid us of them.


is it even illegal? dentists still use it dont they?

whatever, I'M not the one whose daughter is missing here.

I could give 2 craps about the chloroform-just saying why someone other than casey could have had it/looked into it on cindys laptop.

imo/jmo


NG says it is illegal, but it is not used much if at all any more because can cause cancer, along with other problems

[Rebel Rouzer]

We haven't heard that she used any information of Zenaida's, just her name and with all of the documents released I believe we'd have heard if she used any info other then the name. When shown a picture of Zenaida she said that it wasn't her so I don't know how a lawyer plans to sue Casey. I haven't read the whole article yet. Has an attorney taken the case or is it just talk?

She gave more information that that and like I said. IF IF IF they can prove she used that Z's information for her tale to LE then they might have a case IF not then no they will have a hard time proving it.
IMO

[kakax]

Desmom,
I don't know if this would work, but on the calendar link you can make a personal calendar. I would be happy to help transcribe it and see if it would work.

[StickyBeak]

Fire ants are as common as mosquitos or fleas. I live in FL. You can purchase products at any home improvement store for control. I have an exterminator come in and spray, but certainly walking through a empty lot, you may be asking for trouble. Chlorform in not on the list of things to buy for bug prevention. In fact, any pesticide used on my property inside/outside I have a list since we have dogs/cats/parrots.
My DH may indeed be interested in shutting parrots up, J/K.
IIRC someone on this site found chlorform info, and it was not pretty, was used in a date rape situation.

[luvinlife]

I don't remember them visiting casey but i sure do remember cindy being oh so woe-is-me that she had to be up early every AM to get taken by 'private car service' in order to be in make-up in time to do her morning talk show interviews... i was like barf


I think I remember one time they left the jail in a limo because she was picked up there for an interview.IIRC so moo

[tiny paw-prints]

Desmom....what an awesome job! Please be sure to post them in the links thread

:seeya:

:beer: Ditto! Excellent job, Desmom!

Very much appreciated.

[TxLady2]

Nancy is getting rude again.. I hate it when she does that. A theory that is in a public report states that the theory is that Caylee died - drown in the pool and was dumped in a dumpster.. Nancy interupts and says, (paraphrased) "no, that doesn't explain the chloroform searches"...

IMO - I really am not sure the chloroform was involved in her death. Why is Nancy so sure about it? I think it could have been used by George to clean the trunk out.

What do you guys think?

I agree. But even if it was used to kill Caylee... the searches for it won't be brought into the trial unless they can prove she used it to kill her... even accidentally. Not positive, but I think I recall someone saying that it would dissipate pretty quickly. And after this long a time, they probably won't be able to determine a cause of death, there won't be any soft tissues left.
George or Cindy would have known about chloroform. Also... did anyone catch that the laptop Casey had used was actually Cindy's? This was in Lee's statement.

[kakax]

I agree. But even if it was used to kill Caylee... the searches for it won't be brought into the trial unless they can prove she used it to kill her... even accidentally. Not positive, but I think I recall someone saying that it would dissipate pretty quickly. And after this long a time, they probably won't be able to determine a cause of death, there won't be any soft tissues left.
George or Cindy would have known about chloroform. Also... did anyone catch that the laptop Casey had used was actually Cindy's? This was in Lee's statement.



I think it is safe to say that Casey didn't own a thing lol!!

[day2day]

Fire ants are as common as mosquitos or fleas. I live in FL. You can purchase products at any home improvement store for control. I have an exterminator come in and spray, but certainly walking through a empty lot, you may be asking for trouble. Chlorform in not on the list of things to buy for bug prevention. In fact, any pesticide used on my property inside/outside I have a list since we have dogs/cats/parrots.
My DH may indeed be interested in shutting parrots up, J/K.
IIRC someone on this site found chlorform info, and it was not pretty, was used in a date rape situation.

Thats what scares me. The date rape-among other things. I think there is alot more to this story than we will ever know.

jmo

[~jomomma~]

Yeah... make your own chloroform.

Pass out with a quickness! Maybe even death will pay a visit!

Yeah.. make your own chloroform.

oh my gosh! :lol:

[mitzi]

It's illegal to purchase chloroform. Fire ants? I had those. There are many remedies available. Did the Anthonys have fire ants?

It is not illegal to purchase chloroform. We have some at work. I do work for a chemical manufacturer, but I believe it can be bought online. Ours probably came from Fisher Scientific. It is available out there. Also, sciencelab dot com I think. imo

[dixie77]

Fantastic job !!!!!!!!!

[Shellberry]

NG says it is illegal, but it is not used much if at all any more because can cause cancer, along with other problems
before you all start thinking sinister of me, lol
I like to read, every night before I got to bed, I read some chapters of various books. It relaxes me, and I love them-I have read them all al zillion times, but still..
anyhoo-last week I got done reading one by Christopher Pike called 'gimme a kiss'-in this book, a girl worked in a dental office, got a vial of chloroform, used it to numb terrible wounds on her feet and also to knock her friend out (they were on the verge of being murdered )
anyhoo- this is where some of my thoughts are coming from.

not that it was used on specifically for caylee--but that it could have had another purpose, wherever casey got it from.
Thats what scares me. The date rape-among other things. I think there is alot more to this story than we will ever know.

jmo
very true.
we will never know the entire truth.



and yea, I know you can buy fire ant stuff in the store--but all that does is kill the hills, then they move to a spot further up the yard.



imo/jmo

[Rayosunshine]

...Something is really bothering me. Everyone "thought" Casey worked. Everyone "thought" Casey had a nanny...WHERE was Caylee when Casey was supposedly at work? Casey told the detectives that she had dropped Caylee off on those stairs at Sawgrass lots of times. Who did she give her to-and why? Wasn't it Ricardo who said he went to bed with Caylee and Casey and woke up with only Casey? Where did she take Caylee to?

I am gonna have more nightmares...

And, Casey and Caylee lived in the same home with the Anthony's, since Caylee's birth and the grandparents don't know S..t from Shinola.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[boo]

I rarely post but have been following this daily/nightly etc., perhaps even obsessing over it. You guys are all so good at keeping everything updated and current. The one thing I never did get to see was the link of Jose Baez storming into the Anthony house the other night after the 911 call from Casey.

I don't suppose anybody has that link handy?
Thanks. You guys are the best. ;);)

[mitzi]

Fantastic job !!!!!!!!!

Fantastic is right! Thank you!

[PearlBailey]

I know I'm waaaaay behind in the thread - but, thank you so much, desmom! great job of organizing the material. thank you again.

[luvinlife]

Yeah but maybe she just grabbed the strongest stuff possible.......then checked it out online. She said that car sit there for a couple days with LE basically ignoring it......Maybe she was able to mask the smell somewhat.......???


I don't think that worked, LA said the smell was horrible in the garage and LE came that same evening of July 15th, LE took the car on July 16th. It was picked up from the tow yard on the 15th.

I really think Casey had the chloroform, if it is true, she wanted to fake a kidnapping with her and Caylee,or used it to kill Caylee.

The flies I can't explain, but I do think that if the tests are true, a lot of chloroform to us is not necessariliy alot in the air. IE: there can be a high volume of flouride in water and we wouldn't know right but the levels are high according to tests. So what is a high volume of chloroform 1part per billion, 1 part per million,you know what I mean?

[Shellberry]

Yeah... make your own chloroform.

Pass out with a quickness! Maybe even death will pay a visit!

Yeah.. make your own chloroform.

oh brother. you are too much.
it was posted in the links thread ages ago when the chloroform first came out in this case.
there is a link that someone posted on how to make it yourself.




imo/jmo

[TxLady2]

I just got done watching Nancy Grace. I really used to love watching her show but she is starting to irritate me and my S/O. She is getting more rude and not caring about anyone's feelings or opinions. Why have defense attorney's on your show if you don't care to hear their opinion and when they give one you are rude to them and cut them off and rude again.

Although the one defense attorney that is out of Atlanta was a bit on the ditzy side tonight when she said Casey may not have known Caylee was missing when she sent those text messages. DUH!! She knew. She told LE Caylee was taken on the 9th which we know was wrong.

S/O thinks Casey has or had no perception of dates because she was living the lifestyle she was living. She had no job she was free to do what she wanted when she wanted after getting rid of Caylee so dates were not something she needed to retain. Unless it's a LIE then Casey doesn't have to know it or remember it. I tend to agree.

Another thing. When NG' show was coming on she said LE believe Caylee was placed in a dumpster at the Amscot but during the show itself she did not go into that other than to ask Padilla about it.

Do LE believe Casey put Caylee in that dumpster or not?

Last but not least in this post of mine. Why does NG keep running the same bits of the tapes/audio of Casey being questioned over and over and over again?
My S/O has them memorized now because of that. It's getting annoying. They need to start giving updated info and audio not the same stuff for over a week.

Yes, it is getting tiresome to hear the same audio tapes, plus watch the same film clips over and over, which usually cover the screen so you can't see who's speaking.
NG has always been rather rude to her guests, cutting them off and talking over them, but she's gotten worse. I admit, I never watched her much for the past few years, but I did watch her show a lot when the SP trial was going on. She used to come on at 3:00 Central, I think on CTV.
If there is any media outlet that could be considered biased, hers would be at the top of the list. It is very prejudicial, she will not accept anything from a defense lawyer that is in contrast with what she believes. That kind of reporting hurts the chance to have a fair trial. Not everyone wants to hear ONLY the prosecution's side.
My hubby has watched it with me a few times, but now he gets up and leaves the room. My blood pressure goes up 20 notches every time she's on!

[Kathlb]

Gee whiz, I just noticed the name of the thread. It's been 100 days. :(

:rose:Caylee:rose:

[kakax]

I rarely post but have been following this daily/nightly etc., perhaps even obsessing over it. You guys are all so good at keeping everything updated and current. The one thing I never did get to see was the link of Jose Baez storming into the Anthony house the other night after the 911 call from Casey.

I don't suppose anybody has that link handy?
Thanks. You guys are the best. ;);)


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

It's my favorite video of all time!

[day2day]

And, Casey and Caylee lived in the same home with the Anthony's, since Caylee's birth and the grandparents don't know S..t from Shinola.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

To hear them tell it they don't. I am not buyin it. I wonder how Casey stole her grandparents monies-one check?! Dozens of checks? And i would love to know what Casey was like BEFORE June 15th..were her texts the same? (does that make sense) Was she always a party girl-or did this happen after Caylee vanished?

So many questions-not enough answers?! :(:shrug:

[dixie77]

I rarely post but have been following this daily/nightly etc., perhaps even obsessing over it. You guys are all so good at keeping everything updated and current. The one thing I never did get to see was the link of Jose Baez storming into the Anthony house the other night after the 911 call from Casey.

I don't suppose anybody has that link handy?
Thanks. You guys are the best. ;);)
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I dont remember if there was a picc of JB storming into the house....i may be wrong. But i do know there is a short video of him and Casey exiting the house the morning after the 911 call was made. He did look mad and he flung open the car door for Casey and went around to the other side of the car. He did look made. JMO

[dixie77]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

It's my favorite video of all time!========
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Thanks Kakax thats the video i was talking about.

[Pruddennce]

GET outta here! They took a LIMO?! TO JAIL? ...YOU must be kidding...:punch: <----for Detective George and Nurse Cindy..

pfft...

well its true the talk show people send limos and I assume they sent her one for their interview?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,388741,00.html

and cindy is quick to point out she was riding in a limo and how productive she is, how exhausted she is, and she gets her strength from Caylee...

oh...and please dont talk about casey, leave that for the attorneys and LE.

the most bizarre interview IMO that was ever given.

if she loses strength, she wont be able to give tips to the media?

I thought they were supposed to be GETTING tips and passing that on to LE? she never gave one piece of critical information to the media, not one suspect location, not one place her daughter roamed...nothing.


IMO

best regards,
Pru

[desmom]

Thanks Desmom -

Great Job with the transcript based timeline. Will tried to absorb it later. Did you observe any conflicting dates among their statements? IMO a couple of the individuals had talked among themselves before providing LE statements - which should lead to fewer differences but were their memories influenced or simply aided by others and group think? LE may verify each statement date via other technological means, IMO.

YW~ I noticed several of them did get to together and talk. I think it would be common nature to want to know if anyone noticed anything unusual, discuss when they saw Caylee last or discuss Casey's actions over the last couple of months.

At first, it bothered me. The more I read, the more I did not feel anyone was intentionally trying to hide anything. All seemed to be very cooperative with LE...no complaints when LE wanted to see their phones or make a copy of their calls, photos and text messages.

There were a couple of times I would have to go back and re-read because of conflicting dates. The date would be off by one day. IMO, using their phone call and text history, their day-to-day activities, parties and events they attended, they were trying very hard to give LE exact dates of what happened when.

jmo

[KKKKKKatie]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

It's my favorite video of all time!

OMG! First time I have seen it. I need the rolling santa for this one :lol:

Poor Jose was not a happy camper :D

[TxLady2]

Nancy is an ex-prosecutor.
What I don't get is why anyone watches when they hold such a nasty opinion of her. So who appointed those two talking heads the final authority? They know their roles before they appear.

I recall that Scott Peterson's behavior after the crime played very heavily in his trial.

imo

We watch her because she is the only one covering the case right now, there is no other choice.
No one appointed anyone anything... but it is rude for her to cut people off and be sarcastic when she asks them to speak. Why would she ask for their opinions if she won't let them state them? Not only that... but she keeps the public from hearing them as well. There is no reason whatsoever for her to be so unprofessional.
And... the key word is EX-prosecutor. She is a host for a talk show now... where she does MOST of the talking.

[Joan Weiss]

To hear them tell it they don't. I am not buyin it. I wonder how Casey stole her grandparents monies-one check?! Dozens of checks? And i would love to know what Casey was like BEFORE June 15th..were her texts the same? (does that make sense) Was she always a party girl-or did this happen after Caylee vanished?

So many questions-not enough answers?! :(:shrug:I don't believe she took any checks. She got a birthday check from grandma, and used the routing number on it. Where she put the money, I have no idea. imo

[luvinlife]

[QUOTE=day2day;12180824]To hear them tell it they don't. I am not buyin it. I wonder how Casey stole her grandparents monies-one check?! Dozens of checks? And i would love to know what Casey was like BEFORE June 15th..were her texts the same? (does that make sense) Was she always a party girl-or did this happen after Caylee vanished?

So many questions-not enough answers?! :(:shrug:[/QUOTE



My guess is that they only knew about what she was doing if they dug and dug to find out, I know from experience how draining that can be, and then you still dont' know what the truth is for sure. you think your the crazy one and they still tell you your wrong, and that is just about finding out the lies.

I think Casey's texts would be the same if her friends were parting too. Her texts would reflect the image of those friends at the time, just like her personality. Not to mention maybe a lot more complaining about mom.moo

[Joan Weiss]

We watch her because she is the only one covering the case right now, there is no other choice.
No one appointed anyone anything... but it is rude for her to cut people off and be sarcastic when she asks them to speak. Why would she ask for their opinions if she won't let them state them? Not only that... but she keeps the public from hearing them as well. There is no reason whatsoever for her to be so unprofessional.
And... the key word is EX-prosecutor. She is a host for a talk show now... where she does MOST of the talking.Again, it's HER show.

[dixie77]

Does anyone still hold out hope that Caylee is still alive?
===============

I wish i could say i do but i dont. I think they need to go back to the landfill and search again. It took months to find Lori H. JMO

[KKKKKKatie]

Does anyone still hold out hope that Caylee is still alive?

Sadly, I don't :(

[luvinlife]

To hear them tell it they don't. I am not buyin it. I wonder how Casey stole her grandparents monies-one check?! Dozens of checks? And i would love to know what Casey was like BEFORE June 15th..were her texts the same? (does that make sense) Was she always a party girl-or did this happen after Caylee vanished?

So many questions-not enough answers?! :(:shrug:



My guess is that they only knew about what she was doing if they dug and dug to find out, I know from experience how draining that can be, and then you still dont' know what the truth is for sure. you think your the crazy one and they still tell you your wrong, and that is just about finding out the lies.

I think Casey's texts would be the same if her friends were parting too. Her texts would reflect the image of those friends at the time, just like her personality. Not to mention maybe a lot more complaining about mom.moo

[desmom]

Desmom,
I don't know if this would work, but on the calendar link you can make a personal calendar. I would be happy to help transcribe it and see if it would work.

If someone wants to try, please feel free. The next couple of days are pretty hectic for me, so it would probably be sometime this weekend before I would have a chance.

[dixie77]

We watch her because she is the only one covering the case right now, there is no other choice.
No one appointed anyone anything... but it is rude for her to cut people off and be sarcastic when she asks them to speak. Why would she ask for their opinions if she won't let them state them? Not only that... but she keeps the public from hearing them as well. There is no reason whatsoever for her to be so unprofessional.
And... the key word is EX-prosecutor. She is a host for a talk show now... where she does MOST of the talking.
======================

I totally agree with u. I find her rude. One day she will not have anyone on her show. JMO

[Tessie]

I agree ..

He's an A$$!!!! :flamemad:

not just one... a pompas one.

My brain is on overload. I have to take a break form reading. Thanks everyone for the links.

[luvinlife]

before you all start thinking sinister of me, lol


imo/jmo



snipped for space


I don't think your sinister, I understand what you are getting at. :seeya:

[Rayosunshine]

I don't think Zenaida has a case. Casey was shown her picture and said that wasn't Zenaida. And there is more than one Zenaida in the area.

I think Zenaida is just trying to cash in, like Ricardo and Kristina already have. She saw the opportunity and jumped at it.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Ellie]

(respectfully snipped) It seems that everyone that had ever seen Caylee, met that beautiful, smiling face, heard her laughter, has deserted her. Makes me sad that there are ppl who would sell stories and try to make money off of a precious little child's life.

:rose::rose:

For you Caylee

I could not agree more. It's also sad that there are all these 'internet people' who seem to have more love and sympathy for Caylee than her own mother. That little girl deserves to be put to rest. If it were up to me, Casey would be in shackles tied to a tree in a public circle day and night until she spilled her guts. But...that's just me. ;)

[msgatorslayer]

I've seen it mentioned here and on I believe NG that LE hasn't charged Casey with her Daughter's disappearance/death because they can't link her to the car.

TonE places her at the car. He picked her up. She said it was outta gas and that her Dad would handle it. Direct opposite of what she's done in the past. Call friends to help so she's not w.o a vehicle.

The car sat at the Amscot for 3 days. Casey wasn't interested in picking it up. WHY? If it was really just outta gas and Casey wanted to use it, she could have asked TonE to pick up a gallon on his way to come get her.

Now we learn that even Casey's friends knew it was smelling before it was ever abandoned. The smell didn't get there from someone placing a dead body in it at the Amscot or impound lot.

IMO, there is enough circumstantial evidence in this case w.o Caylee's body or LE to arrest Casey with the murder of her Daughter.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Does anyone still hold out hope that Caylee is still alive?

I don't but there are those with combative and confrontational attention seeking disorders that do and those who do not and have not delved into the crux of the case or the documents that still claim she might be.

Oh and her parents. Who so far have not shown any care or regard in finding little Caylee deceased or alive other than telling others to get off their behinds and look.

Other than that I would say the answer is no.

Just my opinion but I could be wrong.

[Boxer]

Does anyone still hold out hope that Caylee is still alive?

I don't..:mad: I wish I could.

I've been at work for two days and now am 14 years behind. I'm never gonna get caught up.:shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

I agree, and didn't the article say that maybe the Anthony's home insurance could pay some of the cost, well it wasn't Cindy and George who said Zenaida it was Casey, plus Cindy and Casey both said that it was the wrong Zenaida.

i think she would have more of a case against webposters who were posting things about her being the real ZFG. JMO


eta not to mention anyone who fired her because of this case she could sue, and Casey said ZFG not ZG.

I hope she includes Sawgrass in her suit, cause that seems to be well-connected. I think the attorney taking the case is doing it for the attention.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[dixie77]

I think Zenaida is just trying to cash in, like Ricardo and Kristina already have. She saw the opportunity and jumped at it.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
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I agree with ya, Isabelle. But why on earth would any attorney that that case? Everyone knows Cassey dont have two nickels to rub together. (Thats if the case could even be won) jmo

[luvinlife]

I think Zenaida is just trying to cash in, like Ricardo and Kristina already have. She saw the opportunity and jumped at it.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom



She could be, but if this case has truly disrupted her life she needs to do something about it. If she got fired because of her name, she should sue the company, if she can't be hired,and it is because of her name then she can sue those that discriminated because of her name.

I think she can try and sue Casey and I don't know that she would have much luck, but she said that it wasnt her in the photo so it is really all the other people that are not believing LE that are causing the problems imo

[Pruddennce]

YW~ I noticed several of them did get to together and talk. I think it would be common nature to want to know if anyone noticed anything unusual, discuss when they saw Caylee last or discuss Casey's actions over the last couple of months.

At first, it bothered me. The more I read, the more I did not feel anyone was intentionally trying to hide anything. All seemed to be very cooperative with LE...no complaints when LE wanted to see their phones or make a copy of their calls, photos and text messages.

There were a couple of times I would have to go back and re-read because of conflicting dates. The date would be off by one day. IMO, using their phone call and text history, their day-to-day activities, parties and events they attended, they were trying very hard to give LE exact dates of what happened when.

jmo

I agree. jeez, insignificant days are suddenly important. thats a task, and technology, texting and cells is a great roadmap 'for the innocent' :)

they can reiterate a story, but a day might be off and they have to connect an event with something else to come up with a specific date and time....the cells/texting floated them....

now, the anthonys.....

best regards,
Pru

[day2day]

BRIAN BURNER STATEMENT

The 20th George visits Brian and hands him a flier and invites him to Caylee's vigil. He asks BB if he was the one that turned in the shovel, BB says yes! (BB says George has to know because its been on tv)
George NEEDS to know these things-cause they are tryin to put together THEIR timeline...

You know what-i bet they are!

:no:

[TxLady2]

I don't think Zenaida has a case. Casey was shown her picture and said that wasn't Zenaida. And there is more than one Zenaida in the area.

I don't think so either. Did LE ever question her about if she had two last names? Because Casey gave them the full name, hyphenated, and unless this one has the same name, then it won't go to court. Casey doesn't have anything she can take, and she can't sue the Anthonys because they didn't bring up her name. Besides, Casey is an adult.
No one has idenentified this woman as being THE nanny... so I am afraid that she can claim anything. I feel sorry for her, but SHE made the appearance on t.v., even if it was in shadow. Casey had already said it was not the same woman. End of story.
She may have been the one who looked at the apartment in Sawgrass... but we don't know how Casey got that name to start with.

[Rayosunshine]

Shellberry.....about the fire ants....can you go to a store in Fl and buy chloroform to take of them?

I know your question was directed to Shellberry, but I thought I would add that Chloroform can be mixed from powdered Chlorine and Acetone (as in nail polish remover).

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[?noanswer]

Well see that is what confused me because I remember like it was yesterday Cindy saying on at least 1 show that it just sit there and LE ignored it and walked right by it for a couple of days........she must of been lying then?.......And did they close it up before LE got there? Cindy also definitely said they aired it out.........but why would they ever park it in the garage?...Did they not want anyone seeing them clean it??...There is MORE.......much much MORE to this storey......

I have no idea what they mean by high levels.........That Koby cofuses me. I want Dr Boden to explain a lot of this stuff.......

I thought Dr. Koblinsky was doing a good job, then lo and behold he did a 360. Shortly after that NG said he had been hired by Jose Baez to work for the defense. Anything he says from this point on will be slanted for the defense. JMO

[day2day]

I don't believe she took any checks. She got a birthday check from grandma, and used the routing number on it. Where she put the money, I have no idea. imo

Thats right-she used the routing number! I would love to know what she did with all that money :( !!

[Rebel Rouzer]

Nancy is an ex-prosecutor.
What I don't get is why anyone watches when they hold such a nasty opinion of her. So who appointed those two talking heads the final authority? They know their roles before they appear.

I recall that Scott Peterson's behavior after the crime played very heavily in his trial.

imo

Hi JW. I watch her because I usually enjoy her shows and her but it seems to have changed quite a bit lately and starting to annoy me half way through her show. Maybe it's just me and my S/O but things seemed to have changed. I usually do like her. Thats why I watch.

[playnice]

"We know this is the right one. They not only knew she was the right Zenaida, gave the names of her two children and type of car she drove. They knew the color of the car she drove. All given to them allegedly by Casey Anthony," Morgan said.

"We know this is the right one. They not only knew she was the right Zenaida, gave the names of her two children and type of car she drove. They knew the color of the car she drove. All given to them allegedly by Casey Anthony," Morgan said.


So she has a ford focus like Casey described?

[bchand]

I rarely post but have been following this daily/nightly etc., perhaps even obsessing over it. You guys are all so good at keeping everything updated and current. The one thing I never did get to see was the link of Jose Baez storming into the Anthony house the other night after the 911 call from Casey.

I don't suppose anybody has that link handy?
Thanks. You guys are the best. ;);)

boo - I have the one of him storming OUT of the house. Is that the one you meant?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

[msgatorslayer]

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I wish i could say i do but i dont. I think they need to go back to the landfill and search again. It took months to find Lori H. JMO

ITA - I'd like to see some massive searches by LE. TES already knocked out many areas. Not sure what the water situation is like but Caylee could be anywhere. Danielle Van Dam was 25 miles away from home. But men tend to go farther in disposing of remains than women do. Westerfield was also charged with her murder before her body was found.

Personally, I'd try to find out what some of Cindy's favorite places are. If Casey did in fact do this to spite her Mom, or because of a fight that occured cause of Mom, I'd think the ultimate vengance would also be dumping Caylee's remains at a personal spot of Cindy's. JMO

[Squeekie]

We haven't heard that she used any information of Zenaida's, just her name and with all of the documents released I believe we'd have heard if she used any info other then the name. When shown a picture of Zenaida she said that it wasn't her so I don't know how a lawyer plans to sue Casey. I haven't read the whole article yet. Has an attorney taken the case or is it just talk?

Zenaida has hired John Morgan. The suit was filed Wednesday afternoon.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17549736/detail.html

[Shellberry]

snipped for space


I don't think your sinister, I understand what you are getting at. :seeya:
thanks, lol

I know your question was directed to Shellberry, but I thought I would add that Chloroform can be mixed from powdered Chlorine and Acetone (as in nail polish remover).

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
it could also be mixed from chlorine & certain pool chemicals
which they would have....





imo/jmo

[dixie77]

Thats right-she used the routing number! I would love to know what she did with all that money :( !!===============

I would love to know how she learned to steal the money using a routing number.

[dixie77]

"We know this is the right one. They not only knew she was the right Zenaida, gave the names of her two children and type of car she drove. They knew the color of the car she drove. All given to them allegedly by Casey Anthony," Morgan said.

"We know this is the right one. They not only knew she was the right Zenaida, gave the names of her two children and type of car she drove. They knew the color of the car she drove. All given to them allegedly by Casey Anthony," Morgan said.


So she has a ford focus like Casey described?
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How did Casey know the name of Zenaida's children? hmmmmmmm

[luvinlife]

Well see that is what confused me because I remember like it was yesterday Cindy saying on at least 1 show that it just sit there and LE ignored it and walked right by it for a couple of days........she must of been lying then?.......And did they close it up before LE got there? Cindy also definitely said they aired it out.........but why would they ever park it in the garage?...Did they not want anyone seeing them clean it??...There is MORE.......much much MORE to this storey......

I have no idea what they mean by high levels.........That Koby cofuses me. I want Dr Boden to explain a lot of this stuff.......




i don't think Cindy knew one day from another at that point.

I think they parked it in the garage to hide it from the neighbors personally, I do think that Cindy especially is very very concerned what people think of their family secrets. Unfortunatly that has been why most of the general public doesn't like her, they can spot people hiding things a mile away.

I need more information on the chloroform, I can't make up my about why it was present in the car.

[playnice]

Zenaida has hired John Morgan. The suit was filed Wednesday afternoon.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17549736/detail.html


If she has a car like Casey described, Casey must have seen her the day she filled out the application which places Casey in the area of SG the 16th of June.

[Pruddennce]

Zenaida has hired John Morgan. The suit was filed Wednesday afternoon.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17549736/detail.html

IMO, its ridiculous. but people sue over a sneeze in the wrong direction.

is she suing Casey only? I didnt read it. worthless IMO.

the case will be tossed....its already been established she didnt know casey or caylee and Casey didnt know her.

what about all of the other ZG's in florida? are they lining up?

lol

best regards,
Pru

[TxLady2]

It is not illegal to purchase chloroform. We have some at work. I do work for a chemical manufacturer, but I believe it can be bought online. Ours probably came from Fisher Scientific. It is available out there. Also, sciencelab dot com I think. imo

But don't you have to work in a chemical plant or a lab of some sort... or at least say you do? I know that NG's producer was able to go online and purchase it by filling in some blanks. You can buy anything online, whether it's illegal or not, actually.

[Rebel Rouzer]

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I would love to know how she learned to steal the money using a routing number.

Ok I may have just come up with a theory on that. I am not sure i should post my theory but here goes.

IF it's true that Lee tried deleting stuff from her laptop. Could it be related to the economic stuff and nothing to do with her and Caylee's disappearence?

Just asking.

[?noanswer]

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I would love to know how she learned to steal the money using a routing number.

I don't know how one would do that unless they did it thru a direct deposit action. I think she would have to sign the account holder's name to some forms and seems to me that would be forgery. JMO

[Rayosunshine]

To hear them tell it they don't. I am not buyin it. I wonder how Casey stole her grandparents monies-one check?! Dozens of checks? And i would love to know what Casey was like BEFORE June 15th..were her texts the same? (does that make sense) Was she always a party girl-or did this happen after Caylee vanished?

So many questions-not enough answers?! :(:shrug:

Would also like to know if Casey was stealing $$ for a family member - not the nickel and dime stuff, but the big stuff. Reading about Casey's belongings and what was found in her wallet - a JC Penney Card - I would call that nickel and dime. Now if we were talking American Express that could be a different story.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[day2day]

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I would love to know how she learned to steal the money using a routing number.

Probly on the internet?! I also have heard (probly rumors might be lies) that George had a bad gambling habit. Maybe Casey helped George out with the $$$ and he then "owed her one"?!
:shrug:
jmo

[Joan Weiss]

Well see that is what confused me because I remember like it was yesterday Cindy saying on at least 1 show that it just sit there and LE ignored it and walked right by it for a couple of days........she must of been lying then?.......And did they close it up before LE got there? Cindy also definitely said they aired it out.........but why would they ever park it in the garage?...Did they not want anyone seeing them clean it??...There is MORE.......much much MORE to this storey......

I have no idea what they mean by high levels.........That Koby cofuses me. I want Dr Boden to explain a lot of this stuff.......The 911 calls were made in the evening.` At that point, it was a kidnapping case. Why would they take the car? They would also need a warrant to take it. The next AM they did come and get it. Cindy lied.
Yes, I think it was in the garage so it could be cleaned. I'm wondering if George did that, when he got home from work. imo

[Pruddennce]

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How did Casey know the name of Zenaida's children? hmmmmmmm

however, CA told LE she was childless. oh, but had a boyfriend.

best regards,
Pru

[barskin&co.]

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How did Casey know the name of Zenaida's children? hmmmmmmm

The names of the children were on the card she filled out at Sawgrass, but Casey told LE her Zenaida BlahBlah Hyphen Blah didn't have children.

[Rayosunshine]

Does anyone still hold out hope that Caylee is still alive?

I do.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[msgatorslayer]

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I would love to know how she learned to steal the money using a routing number.

I'd love to know the amount and if it was one or more transactions. Was it an on-line store purchase? We need more specs.

When I had a landline, Verizon's only online payment method was by check. Strange, I know. But they didn't take credit.

[Rebel Rouzer]

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How did Casey know the name of Zenaida's children? hmmmmmmm

My guess her MySpace account but again i could be wrong.

[luvinlife]

Hi JW. I watch her because I usually enjoy her shows and her but it seems to have changed quite a bit lately and starting to annoy me half way through her show. Maybe it's just me and my S/O but things seemed to have changed. I usually do like her. Thats why I watch.



I think it just seems like that because we are not just watching NG but reading daily (almost all day) about this case, so to us it is old news and rehashed on here daily and then again on NG. But for those that aren't on a MB they think it is all new, and don't know about all the info.JMO

[Rayosunshine]

I don't believe she took any checks. She got a birthday check from grandma, and used the routing number on it. Where she put the money, I have no idea. imo

I'd be willing to bet someone very close to her helped her with the routing information.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Joan Weiss]

Ok I may have just come up with a theory on that. I am not sure i should post my theory but here goes.

IF it's true that Lee tried deleting stuff from her laptop. Could it be related to the economic stuff and nothing to do with her and Caylee's disappearence?

Just asking.Good idea, Rebel. :cool:

[Joan Weiss]

I'd be willing to bet someone very close to her helped her with the routing information.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomMaybe Lee? That could be why he may have deleted stuff from her laptop, as Rebel suggested. imo

[dixie77]

Actually, she may have two nickels, a dime, & three pennies.

Unless law enforcement still has 'em in their evidence room.
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Oh yeah i forgot about the 23 cents lol

[boo]

Thank you so much, Kakax!!

[Joan Weiss]

Hi JW. I watch her because I usually enjoy her shows and her but it seems to have changed quite a bit lately and starting to annoy me half way through her show. Maybe it's just me and my S/O but things seemed to have changed. I usually do like her. Thats why I watch.Imo, she's always been like that. Don't you remember Melinda Duckett?

Anyway, this is o/t. :chicken:

[Joan Weiss]

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Oh yeah i forgot about the 23 cents lolLE didn't find any rocks, though. ;)

[Shellberry]

I'd be willing to bet someone very close to her helped her with the routing information.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

if she say.. opened a paypal acct with it-all you need is the numbers on the check-it even tells you what numbers to put in where, etc


imo/jmo

[luvinlife]

I am so trying up catch here, no children but a sister called Sam? I thought earlier someone posted that Cas. knew the names of the children, or was LE lying?



I am not sure, but i think LE came and said you have kids named blah blah blah, and they had the info from the apts, not from Casey.

I thought Zenaida said she drove a grey car but not a ford focus on her interview the other day?

[Rebel Rouzer]

Imo, she's always been like that. Don't you remember Melinda Duckett?

Anyway, this is o/t. :chicken:

lol Not really off topic because Nancy Grace covers this story nightly. But we can change the subject :D

[dixie77]

Ok I may have just come up with a theory on that. I am not sure i should post my theory but here goes.

IF it's true that Lee tried deleting stuff from her laptop. Could it be related to the economic stuff and nothing to do with her and Caylee's disappearence?

Just asking.
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could very well be, Rebel

[jamma6]

Has there been any talk of searches around Lee`s house. Just a thought. I am new here, been lurking for a long time. This case drives me crazy, I am obcessed with it!

[Joan Weiss]

Like on line banking? hmmmmm could be more charges coming!Yes, that's what I'm thinking...

[Squeekie]

IMO, its ridiculous. but people sue over a sneeze in the wrong direction.

is she suing Casey only? I didnt read it. worthless IMO.

the case will be tossed....its already been established she didnt know casey or caylee and Casey didnt know her.

what about all of the other ZG's in florida? are they lining up?

lol

best regards,
Pru

If you didn't read the article, then you really don't want to see the video of John Morgan talking about it. :D

http://www.wftv.com/video/17549823/index.html

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if another ZG came out claiming their name is also ruined.

[mitzi]

But don't you have to work in a chemical plant or a lab of some sort... or at least say you do? I know that NG's producer was able to go online and purchase it by filling in some blanks. You can buy anything online, whether it's illegal or not, actually.

TX, I don't think you have to work for a chem plant or lab. I do think you have to use an address that is considered a commercial address. Which would not be hard to do, imo. And yes, you can buy just about anything online.

Mitzi

[msgatorslayer]

Anyone recall who it was that said Casey used the routing numbers from the check? I think it was Cindy's Brother on the net? Is that the only source? The Anthony's aren't talking about squat.

IMO, the routing number could have been what Cindy told her Brother. Doesn't make it so. She has a habit of down playing everything. Does Grama have a puter? Does she do on-line banking? Could Casey have seen her using her passy? Does Cindy have access to her Mom's accounts?

[TxLady2]

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How did Casey know the name of Zenaida's children? hmmmmmmm

I thought Casey said she didn't have any children, was I mistaken?
Have they asked her if she has a sister by the name of Samantha, who has 3 children? Casey described her.. the woman in the interview looked to have lighter color hair and also older... late 30's. Casey said the nanny was 26 or so.
Anyway, Casey did not identify her in a picture lineup... so since SHE didn't... I still don't think there is a case.
Besides... the media and all the message boards are the ones who kept her name out there. She should sue them.

[ALL RISE]

there is a theory floating w/the police that when the car Casey was driving that ran out of gas by the check cashing place...that dumpster is where CA dumped the precious body of Caylee.

So they are going to be checking the landfill......where that dumpster's contents went. Sounds reminesent of another murder?

Also some double talk (re the awful smell of the car) in the texting where Casey is talking about 'scraping' the squirrel off the car....Sounded like the reference was made to Caylee sadly.

Also new info about Casey smoking 'more pot than usual'....side effect of marijuana loosing track of time....when you think about a child being left in the care of a high pot smoker anything could have happened....makes sense that's why Casey laments that she 'doesn't know where Caylee is'...time passed with her being high. :eek:

Really very very grim?!

[Bluegal]

I just sent Lifetime an email regarding the $2 million dollar deal they've allegedly made with Casey.

If you'd like to do the same:

http://www.mylifetime.com/about-us/get-help

[Rebel Rouzer]

Why did Casey ask Amy to buy her a gas can on June 30th (Thanks, desmom! :seeya:)? She never returned to the car with gas. It was there 'til the 15th of July.

No clue why she asked Amy to buy a gas can at that time. The car was towed to the tow yard on the 30th but abandon at Amscot on the 27th. Parents didn't get the car back from tow yard until the 15th Of July. IIARC. We still don't know where that gas can is that she asked Amy to buy? :confused:

[boo]

Thank You. Yes, that's the video I wanted to see and every time I went to go look for it, I got behind 15 pages again.

He did not look happy at all and I love the door fling at Casey. :hat: Bet that was one quiet ride .

[bluwaters]

YW~ I noticed several of them did get to together and talk. I think it would be common nature to want to know if anyone noticed anything unusual, discuss when they saw Caylee last or discuss Casey's actions over the last couple of months.

At first, it bothered me. The more I read, the more I did not feel anyone was intentionally trying to hide anything. All seemed to be very cooperative with LE...no complaints when LE wanted to see their phones or make a copy of their calls, photos and text messages.

There were a couple of times I would have to go back and re-read because of conflicting dates. The date would be off by one day. IMO, using their phone call and text history, their day-to-day activities, parties and events they attended, they were trying very hard to give LE exact dates of what happened when.

jmo

You did an amazing job with your timeline!
Thank you for sharing it with us.

[charm7]

Can someone please tell me why JB was so mad about the 911 call? I missed that bit apparentley :shrug:

[dixie77]

U know...............i wish they would just go ahead and charge Casey with murder. If they r waiting for Caylee's body to be found, that may never happen. Lets say that this poor baby's body is found. Maybe they can find something in her remains to say definitely that it is indeed Caylee. but then there is no other evidence of how it actually happened. In my opinion, they r back to square one. So why wait? JMO

[msgatorslayer]

IIRC Grandmother sent Casey something and that was the account Casey stole from.
JMO

Right. But who said that?

[luvinlife]

U know...............i wish they would just go ahead and charge Casey with murder. If they r waiting for Caylee's body to be found, that may never happen. Lets say that this poor baby's body is found. Maybe they can find something in her remains to say definitely that it is indeed Caylee. but then there is no other evidence of how it actually happened. In my opinion, they r back to square one. So why wait? JMO



But they could find evidence on or around her body that would be helpful or the location it is found and cell records. They could also once a body is found see if anyone remembers seeing anything or anyone in the area in that time period.moo

[playnice]

I know I know whats up with that House?.........I am trying to figure it out also....

Can anyone here just imagine running out of gas with a dead body in your car........
Thats a big WHOOPS!!!!

I dont know about anyone else but Id be :chicken: to drive around with a dead body in my car. My luck I would get stopped for a traffic violation or in a wreck. Maybe she wasnt because she had so many cop BF's.

[dixie77]

I know I know whats up with that House?.........I am trying to figure it out also....

Can anyone here just imagine running out of gas with a dead body in your car........
Thats a big WHOOPS!!!!
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Actually.....i couldnt imagine running around with a dead body in my car.

[msgatorslayer]

Casey seemed to need a lot of gas cans in a short period of time

-her parents cans

-tony brought a can

-Amy got a can

Why so many gas cans in this story:shrug:

:lol: And Casey followed the law by only using approved containers.

[Joan Weiss]

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How did Casey know the name of Zenaida's children? hmmmmmmmIt could be that Z had friends in that building, and Casey might have been around when said friends were mentioning those details. Didn't Casey know someone in that building, connected to Tony or Ricardo? I recall something about that. Tony, a musician connected to Tony's business?

It's possible that Z wanted to live there because she knew people in the building.

I doubt there's anything untruthful about Z's statements, if so, she wouldn't have filed a legal suit. Lots of things come out in court. imo

[luvinlife]

Right. But who said that?


I do believe the information came from Rick, and I don't think anyone else has verified it.

[dixie77]

But they could find evidence on or around her body that would be helpful or the location it is found and cell records. They could also once a body is found see if anyone remembers seeing anything or anyone in the area in that time period.moo
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Very true...........but i was saying If nothing could be found.

[Squeekie]

Can someone please tell me why JB was so mad about the 911 call? I missed that bit apparentley :shrug:

I'm think it's because it shows Casey is not afraid of the police and is quite capable of dialing 911.

[Motomom]

If you didn't read the article, then you really don't want to see the video of John Morgan talking about it. :D

http://www.wftv.com/video/17549823/index.html

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if another ZG came out claiming their name is also ruined.

It'll be a class action lawsuit against Casey LOL. Actually, aside from the fact that I dont' think payment should ever be in the hands of ZFG, although she MAY deserve something.. This could stop the Anthony's, or even just Casey from ever making money off of this crime. I'm not sure how she'd involve the anthonys though because Casey had been out of there for a few weeks..

[Joan Weiss]

I just saw the above post. Is casey now saying that she worked for an extermination company?:shrug:

How do ants and gas pertain to the case? TIA.George did, at some previous point. imo

[hamebone]

Why did Casey ask Amy to buy her a gas can on June 30th (Thanks, desmom! :seeya:)? She never returned to the car with gas. It was there 'til the 15th of July.

I think it was towed on the June 30th and was at the towing company til 15th of July.

[Shellberry]

what if??????

the gas cans that were missing from the garage and found in the trunk were all filled with chloroform, that would take care of everybody's fire-ants.

She used the shovel to dig up the ant beds as she smothered them to death with lethal doses.

This case has me 'hearing voices no one else hears', I swear.:flamemad:
oh brother, get by by a swarm of fire ants and see how you joke then.
then imagine being a 2 or 3 year old child getting bit.

and the painful blisters and lumps and 'hives' you get from them...





imo/jmo

[Bluegal]

I have sent 3

^5 CayleesAngel - the thought of Lifetime agreeing to this pizzes me off - but the thought of the Anthony's making a dime off this - makes me really want to do bad things.

[SandyO]

Right. But who said that?

Didn't Cindy tell that to Amy while they were driving to collect Casey?

[day2day]

:lol: And Casey followed the law by only using approved containers.

get outta town!! its too late for this!! Most cases have dogs that can't talk. This case has gas cans and liars. Go figure!!:read:

[Mamie]

I'm wondering whether the chloroform came into play by searches on her computer and then she got her hands on some (however she did it----evidence of it in the car) but before she could put her grand plan using the chloroform into play, something accidentally happened to little Caylee----like drowning in the pool or falling from something in the backyard that either gave her a severe concussion and she just died because no medical attention immediately was sought---don't forget the dogs hit in the backyard at first. So then maybe she tried to use the chloroform to cover up the smell in the car not realizing that both odors would continue to have a life of their own in that trunk. I could invision Casey going in the house to get on the computer, text someone and ignore Caylee (or forget about her completely) in the backyard. Not trying to give Casey a way out by any means-----she's still a worthless almost human being in my book, but maybe it was an accident and with Casey's reputation of lying among other things, who would believe her? :shrug:JMO

[Joan Weiss]

Casey seemed to need a lot of gas cans in a short period of time

-her parents cans

-tony brought a can

-Amy got a can

Why so many gas cans in this story:shrug:Yep, this is so perplexing. :confused:

[Acorn]

Anyone recall who it was that said Casey used the routing numbers from the check? I think it was Cindy's Brother on the net? Is that the only source? The Anthony's aren't talking about squat.

IMO, the routing number could have been what Cindy told her Brother. Doesn't make it so. She has a habit of down playing everything. Does Grama have a puter? Does she do on-line banking? Could Casey have seen her using her passy? Does Cindy have access to her Mom's accounts?

www.wesh.com/news/17303070/detail.html

"Cindy Anthony later told Casey Anthony’s friend, Amy Huizinga, that Casey Anthony stole money from her 80-year-old grandmother using a routing number ..."

[desmom]

Must be time for the late night news...

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[Joan Weiss]

I'm wondering whether the chloroform came into play by searches on her computer and then she got her hands on some (however she did it----evidence of it in the car) but before she could put her grand plan using the chloroform into play, something accidentally happened to little Caylee----like drowning in the pool or falling from something in the backyard that either gave her a severe concussion and she just died because no medical attention immediately was sought---don't forget the dogs hit in the backyard at first. So then maybe she tried to use the chloroform to cover up the smell in the car not realizing that both odors would continue to have a life of their own in that trunk. I could invision Casey going in the house to get on the computer, text someone and ignore Caylee (or forget about her completely) in the backyard. Not trying to give Casey a way out by any means-----she's still a worthless almost human being in my book, but maybe it was an accident and with Casey's reputation of lying among other things, who would believe her? :shrug:JMONot me. I don't believe it.

[luvinlife]

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Very true...........but i was saying If nothing could be found.


Then that would be awful, because I am not sure the evidence they have would be enough to charge her and have her found guilty. They need dna in the car (preferably blood or decomp fluid) not just decomp in the air tests ( I don't think they have been used in court yet), and they need proof of something that says it wasn't an accident or they can't charge her with murder 1.

[jamma6]

wait a minute, I already heard that they had thought of the dumpster and searching the landfill and they said nothing was found. Must have been on NG or back when Gretta had it on there.

[TxLady2]

TX, I don't think you have to work for a chem plant or lab. I do think you have to use an address that is considered a commercial address. Which would not be hard to do, imo. And yes, you can buy just about anything online.

Mitzi

Ok, thanks! I know someone who does work in some kind of lab and

Before I sign off for the night... In reading Amy's statements, she was asked at one point if Casey was big into drugs. She said not until lately, would smoke pot occasionally, and eat a 'brownie.' What the heck does that mean? I am way out of the loop.

[Shellberry]

Must be time for the late night news...

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

live fox news at 11-caylee case is on now.

[Joan Weiss]

oh brother, get by by a swarm of fire ants and see how you joke then.
then imagine being a 2 or 3 year old child getting bit.

and the painful blisters and lumps and 'hives' you get from them...





imo/jmoCome on. Nobody puts chloroform where a child might go. Who said the Anthonys have fire ants?

[playnice]

wait a minute, I already heard that they had thought of the dumpster and searching the landfill and they said nothing was found. Must have been on NG or back when Gretta had it on there.

It was a reporter on NG.

[msgatorslayer]

www.wesh.com/news/17303070/detail.html

"Cindy Anthony later told Casey Anthony’s friend, Amy Huizinga, that Casey Anthony stole money from her 80-year-old grandmother using a routing number ..."

Thanks, Acorn. I forgot that Cindy told Amy.

My whole point, really, is just cause Cindy says, doesn't make it so. But thats when I was thinking it was only her Brother who had been told that story.

However, in light of her being really pizzed at Casey at the time she said this to Amy, I'm more apt to believe it.

[luvinlife]

www.wesh.com/news/17303070/detail.html

"Cindy Anthony later told Casey Anthony’s friend, Amy Huizinga, that Casey Anthony stole money from her 80-year-old grandmother using a routing number ..."



Thanks I forgot about that, I have doc overload right now and barely know my own name:)

[boo]

I don't have any luck with that webcam. I never see nuttin on there.

Thanks Desmom for your compilation of the dates... I wish she'd just spill it already.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Ok, thanks! I know someone who does work in some kind of lab and

Before I sign off for the night... In reading Amy's statements, she was asked at one point if Casey was big into drugs. She said not until lately, would smoke pot occasionally, and eat a 'brownie.' What the heck does that mean? I am way out of the loop.

I'm wondering why all the drug questions keep coming up. Do they want to rule out that Casey was supplying chemicals to people to make drugs? What drugs are used now days that contain Chloroform? I'm not up to date on all that sorry.

They made her take drug tests and keep askign about drugs and even asked about trafficing the drugs or money etc to rule out a kidnapping for ransom.

Many questions.

[Squeekie]

It'll be a class action lawsuit against Casey LOL. Actually, aside from the fact that I dont' think payment should ever be in the hands of ZFG, although she MAY deserve something.. This could stop the Anthony's, or even just Casey from ever making money off of this crime. I'm not sure how she'd involve the anthonys though because Casey had been out of there for a few weeks..

That would be great if none of them would make a dime off this "story". I hate even saying it that way but Caylee seems to be on the back burner with all this hoopla and a few players are smelling money. Soon enough it'll be a few more. So on & so on. That sickens me.

[Joan Weiss]

wait a minute, I already heard that they had thought of the dumpster and searching the landfill and they said nothing was found. Must have been on NG or back when Gretta had it on there.That's correct. I heard/read it, too.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Would someone tell me where the timeline is? Sorry, I haven't been able to find it - my puter is too slow tonight. Thanks.


On THIS thread a few pages back desmom made one.

:beer: For desmom :beer:

[luvinlife]

Maybe she really wasn't abandoning it in such a public place. Maybe it was just out of gas. I know she told people her dad was picking it up and having it fixed and then forgot to ask Dad. Maybe she returned (alone and in secret because of the smell) with a full gas can after the car had been towed and got a real shock!!! The only thing worse than running out of gas with a dead body in the car is returning to find it gone!



Maybe she was going back to get the car with gas to then dump it somewhere:shrug:

[bungeebaby]

Then that would be awful, because I am not sure the evidence they have would be enough to charge her and have her found guilty. They need dna in the car (preferably blood or decomp fluid) not just decomp in the air tests ( I don't think they have been used in court yet), and they need proof of something that says it wasn't an accident or they can't charge her with murder 1.

I thought they had DNA from the trunk from Caylee's bodily fluids, among other things. I remember reading that from early on but maybe I'm totally mistaken.

These highly publicized cases can get pretty convoluted with pubic speculation and the media's input.

[Shellberry]

Come on. Nobody puts chloroform where a child might go.

it was in the air in the car wasnt it?
so obviously it was put where a child went...
and casey or whoever used her/cindys laptop looked it up.

once chloroform dries-it is no longer 'potent'-it could do its job on the ants, and be dried in a minute down here.
no side effects to anyone who should walk on it, near it..etc

just like any other bug treatment-you give the area a certain amount of time to 'dry' & all is well.

I doubt caylee picked up and/or ate sand at her age.

imo/jmo

[beckyj]

I hadn't looked at the webcam for a while. I notice they have a flag out. That's a new thing isn't it? Just caught my attention as different.

[Joan Weiss]

On THIS thread a few pages back desmom made one.

:beer: For desmom :beer:It's on the links thread.

[luvinlife]

I'm wondering why all the drug questions keep coming up. Do they want to rule out that Casey was supplying chemicals to people to make drugs? What drugs are used now days that contain Chloroform? I'm not up to date on all that sorry.

They made her take drug tests and keep askign about drugs and even asked about trafficing the drugs or money etc to rule out a kidnapping for ransom.

Many questions.



Txlady2 pot brownies

I think someone posted a link before |(in the links thread) that chloroform is sometimes used in making meth.

i do think the police thought that there may be a drug angle especially after reading last nights info. They kept asking about fusion i think they are or were suspicious about that. Maybe it is just my imagination/

[barskin&co.]

Okay, here's something interesting. Lee emailed Yuri Melich with "information he and his family found out during their visits" to help with the search. Now he talks about Juliette Lewis and Jeff Hopkins, as Casey told him on a recorded jailhouse call. Mind you this email is dated July 26- ten dates after LE confronted her with the truth about her job status as well as that Jeff Hopkins (gone since 2002) and Juliette Lewis (movie star moonlighting as non-existent event planner). Lee said Casey claims that these were the people "who knew Caylee was missing and were helping her to look for them." (remember, LE already knew they don't exist). Lee also furnishes the names of non-existent managers, as well as bogus emails on non-existent domains from said non-existent managers. BUT, along with all this is the name of a "coworker" at Universal named, Heather MacDonald. Lee claims she confirms that there was Jeff and that Casey was "hanging out with someone named Juliette." Now you will see lots of emails from Yuri M checking up on all the Universal data, and there is a Heather MacDonald who worked for management for a year starting after Casey was fired. The email has her correct phone number, as if he confirmed this all by talking to her," but how could he? The info Casey gave we know is all lies. Is this a tangible piece of perjury by Lee?
At the bottom of the email is (Ta Da!) a description of Zenaida and information on her mother, “Gloria," her sister, "Samantha," and of course, the inimitable roommate, "Raquel Farrell."


Lee's email is on page 276 of 432
Yuril Melich's emails to and from Universal and TGIFridays are on page 277-298 of 432
Casey's Bogus emails are on pages 299-304 of 432 (note the grammatical errors on these supposed business emails)
The email about Heather MacDonald is on Page 281 of 432

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

[msgatorslayer]

get outta town!! its too late for this!! Most cases have dogs that can't talk. This case has gas cans and liars. Go figure!!:read:

Well, I'll confess. I've been known to use illegal containers occasionally. Used to have a neighbor who did tree service for a living. And all the boys with their ATV's. My gas cans would turn up missing when I wanted to cut the lawn and instead of buying, yet another new can, I'd use a water jug. My gas cans would turn back up. It was always my Son or the neighbors. LMAO, I have something in common with the Anthony's.

Now, if the gas LE come looking, you haven't seen me.:D

[day2day]

I'm wondering why all the drug questions keep coming up. Do they want to rule out that Casey was supplying chemicals to people to make drugs? What drugs are used now days that contain Chloroform? I'm not up to date on all that sorry.

They made her take drug tests and keep askign about drugs and even asked about trafficing the drugs or money etc to rule out a kidnapping for ransom.

Many questions.

IIRC Chloroform can be used to make meth.

[desmom]

Anyone recall who it was that said Casey used the routing numbers from the check? I think it was Cindy's Brother on the net? Is that the only source? The Anthony's aren't talking about squat.

IMO, the routing number could have been what Cindy told her Brother. Doesn't make it so. She has a habit of down playing everything. Does Grama have a puter? Does she do on-line banking? Could Casey have seen her using her passy? Does Cindy have access to her Mom's accounts?


Cindy told Amy Page 248 of the original 400 page documents released on 8/25/08.


jmo

[Joan Weiss]

it was in the air in the car wasnt it?
so obviously it was put where a child went...
and casey or whoever used her/cindys laptop looked it up.

once chloroform dries-it is no longer 'potent'-it could do its job on the ants, and be dried in a minute down here.
no side effects to anyone who should walk on it, near it..etc

just like any other bug treatment-you give the area a certain amount of time to 'dry' & all is well.

I doubt caylee picked up and/or ate sand at her age.

imo/jmoYour first sentence is correct. The rest is speculation. I used to babysit two toddlers, they were a bit older than Caylee, maybe 6 months older, and they ate sand. When are you going to post a link that says the Anthonys had fire ants? imo

[desmom]

Can someone please tell me why JB was so mad about the 911 call? I missed that bit apparentley :shrug:

IMO, Casey had no problem calling 911 when she feared she was in danger from the angry protesters in front of her house, but she feared calling LE when her daughter disappeared.

[boo]

She'd have done better to use one of them many gas cans and torch her car after she abandoned it. Or was it verified there were video cameras at that check cashing place?

I believe she wasn't quite finished with her plan at that time.

[luvinlife]

I thought they had DNA from the trunk from Caylee's bodily fluids, among other things. I remember reading that from early on but maybe I'm totally mistaken.

These highly publicized cases can get pretty convoluted with pubic speculation and the media's input.
.


I believe that there was a couple of news things that said they had dna from the stain, then LE said the info they had re: testing had not come from the stain. They only have the hair and they can't tell if it is Caylee's, and the air testing. That is all they have confirmed.

[msgatorslayer]

She'd have done better to use one of them many gas cans and torch her car after she abandoned it. Or was it verified there were video cameras at that check cashing place?

I believe she wasn't quite finished with her plan at that time.

That would be risky, IMO. Not to say she wasn't thinking about it. But a car on fire would be spotted pretty quick.

[Joan Weiss]

:read: Hummmm..
Wonder if maybe she planned to burn it (and all the evidence of a crime) to the ground??That would be quite a blaze. Where do you suppose she would have done that? How would she get home?

[tiny paw-prints]

if she say.. opened a paypal acct with it-all you need is the numbers on the check-it even tells you what numbers to put in where, etc

imo/jmo


I think she'd probably do the routing number scam for Lee rather than George, and maybe get a gratuity tip from Lee after the fact along with a ^5.

[luvinlife]

Suspicious was what I felt when Casey said they were having an "all white nite".

Does that mean it was going to be meth and cocaine?
Maybe LE has good reason to look at Fusion very close.



I was thinking the same thing, I couldn't decide if it was a drug reference or a racial reference. I am soooo out of the loop, I have never heard of such a thing as an "all white night"

[barskin&co.]

People who smoke pot and no i am not one of them put pot in brownies it's suppose to get you high faster.

Which, actually, isn't really true. (Don't start on me! I'm from the 60's)

[hanlil]

Suspicious was what I felt when Casey said they were having an "all white nite".

Does that mean it was going to be meth and cocaine?
Maybe LE has good reason to look at Fusion very close.

I tokk that to mean it's one of those parties where everyone dresses in white clothes.

[Joan Weiss]

Well, I'm fried. Good night. :seeya:

[playnice]

Okay, here's something interesting. Lee emailed Yuri Melich with "information he and his family found out during their visits" to help with the search. Now he talks about Juliette Lewis and Jeff Hopkins, as Casey told him on a recorded jailhouse call. Mind you this email is dated July 26- ten dates after LE confronted her with the truth about her job status as well as that Jeff Hopkins (gone since 2002) and Juliette Lewis (movie star moonlighting as non-existent event planner). Lee said Casey claims that these were the people "who knew Caylee was missing and were helping her to look for them." (remember, LE already knew they don't exist). Lee also furnishes the names of non-existent managers, as well as bogus emails on non-existent domains from said non-existent managers. BUT, along with all this is the name of a "coworker" at Universal named, Heather MacDonald. Lee claims she confirms that there was Jeff and that Casey was "hanging out with someone named Juliette." Now you will see lots of emails from Yuri M checking up on all the Universal data, and there is a Heather MacDonald who worked for management for a year starting after Casey was fired. The email has her correct phone number, as if he confirmed this all by talking to her," but how could he? The info Casey gave we know is all lies. Is this a tangible piece of perjury by Lee?
At the bottom of the email is (Ta Da!) a description of Zenaida and information on her mother, “Gloria," her sister, "Samantha," and of course, the inimitable roommate, "Raquel Farrell."


Lee's email is on page 276 of 432
Yuril Melich's emails to and from Universal and TGIFridays are on page 277-298 of 432
Casey's Bogus emails are on pages 299-304 of 432 (note the grammatical errors on these supposed business emails)
The email about Heather MacDonald is on Page 281 of 432

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf


How would Lenny know that when he told the BP story about Z & Sam? That verifies that BH isnt making some of this stuff up and Casey did morph her story to Rob Dick.

[irishkel]

I do.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I do too! Learned my lesson with Shawn Hornbeck. I'm local to that case and for years, every time I saw something about it on the news. I thought, he's gone! Then 5 years later he's found! His parents taught me one thing, "Never give up Hope":)

[boo]

That would be risky, IMO. Not to say she wasn't thinking about it. But a car on fire would be spotted pretty quick.

True, but after reading thru all these documents, it's clear she didn't always think on her feet... haha, no pun intended with that one.

That would have been quite the blaze, wouldn't it?

[barskin&co.]

I tokk that to mean it's one of those parties where everyone dresses in white clothes.

Oh, good. At least they were wearing clothes at this one.

[Shellberry]

Your first sentence is correct. The rest is speculation. I used to babysit two toddlers, they were a bit older than Caylee, maybe 6 months older, and they ate sand. When are you going to post a link that says the Anthonys had fire ants? imo
my daughter is 20 months- she doesnt eat sand. :shrug:
she stopped putting stuff into her mouth from outdoors a long time ago. she knows sand, dirt, acorns, leaves, etc are ca ca-Im sure since cindy took care of caylee--cindy taught her that as well.

there is no link
just like there is no link to say casey sold drugs made with chloro. , casey made drugs with chloro or anything else

I was giving my nice opinion on why there could have been chloroform.

never did I say they officially had fire ants for sure--hence the imo/jmo at the end of my posts.

if you dont like to read MY OPINION skip and scroll
dont quote and badger.

thanks

imo/jmo/etc

[barskin&co.]

Why is Casey not telling what is going on? Does she not know, remember?
Where is Caylee??? Is that not such a hard question.

Where is Caylee's BODY?????

Do you not feel any remorse about your young child, Caylee Marie Anthony? Caylee has been missing for 100 days.

Come on. Let us find this child.

Yeah, well. Good try, 2witchy. :(

[Rebel Rouzer]

Okay, here's something interesting. Lee emailed Yuri Melich with "information he and his family found out during their visits" to help with the search. Now he talks about Juliette Lewis and Jeff Hopkins, as Casey told him on a recorded jailhouse call. Mind you this email is dated July 26- ten dates after LE confronted her with the truth about her job status as well as that Jeff Hopkins (gone since 2002) and Juliette Lewis (movie star moonlighting as non-existent event planner). Lee said Casey claims that these were the people "who knew Caylee was missing and were helping her to look for them." (remember, LE already knew they don't exist). Lee also furnishes the names of non-existent managers, as well as bogus emails on non-existent domains from said non-existent managers. BUT, along with all this is the name of a "coworker" at Universal named, Heather MacDonald. Lee claims she confirms that there was Jeff and that Casey was "hanging out with someone named Juliette." Now you will see lots of emails from Yuri M checking up on all the Universal data, and there is a Heather MacDonald who worked for management for a year starting after Casey was fired. The email has her correct phone number, as if he confirmed this all by talking to her," but how could he? The info Casey gave we know is all lies. Is this a tangible piece of perjury by Lee?
At the bottom of the email is (Ta Da!) a description of Zenaida and information on her mother, “Gloria," her sister, "Samantha," and of course, the inimitable roommate, "Raquel Farrell."


Lee's email is on page 276 of 432
Yuril Melich's emails to and from Universal and TGIFridays are on page 277-298 of 432
Casey's Bogus emails are on pages 299-304 of 432 (note the grammatical errors on these supposed business emails)
The email about Heather MacDonald is on Page 281 of 432

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

You just gave me a lot to check into and think about.

[bluwaters]

I was thinking the same thing, I couldn't decide if it was a drug reference or a racial reference. I am soooo out of the loop, I have never heard of such a thing as an "all white night"

I read that everyone wears white and the dance floor is lit with black lights. Cool visual. It sounds suspiciously like white drugs as well.

[luvinlife]

Oh, good. At least they were wearing clothes at this one.


Come on barskin the party was a anything but clothes party not a no clothes party, don't you remember from the place we can't mention.:D

[barskin&co.]

I read that everyone wears white and the dance floor is lit with black lights. Cool visual. It sounds suspiciously like white drugs as well.

Isn't that special?

[starling]

wait a minute, I already heard that they had thought of the dumpster and searching the landfill and they said nothing was found. Must have been on NG or back when Gretta had it on there.
Casey has the stamina of a certain husband counting on the depths of an ocean

One day she may be sitting in court,forced to look at the end result
of her throwing her daughter away



JMO

[luvinlife]

I read that everyone wears white and the dance floor is lit with black lights. Cool visual. It sounds suspiciously like white drugs as well.



Well see my suspicious mind was probably wrong. Casey does seem to bring out the suspicious part in me for some reason, go figure.

The girl is just beyond words.:flamemad:

[Rebel Rouzer]

:lol: ok but i was right about putting it in the brownies wasnt i? I have heard this threw the grape vine i guess they just think it gets them hig fasterhammer

Actually if you make them correctly it's not the pot itself that you AHHH forget it I could get in trouble for finishing this reply :chicken:

[hanlil]

I read that everyone wears white and the dance floor is lit with black lights. Cool visual. It sounds suspiciously like white drugs as well.

It seemed like the detectives kept trying to ask about the music..like if it was techno or not trying to make a link with ecstasy or cocaine.

[bungeebaby]

Okay, here's something interesting. Lee emailed Yuri Melich with "information he and his family found out during their visits" to help with the search. Now he talks about Juliette Lewis and Jeff Hopkins, as Casey told him on a recorded jailhouse call. Mind you this email is dated July 26- ten dates after LE confronted her with the truth about her job status as well as that Jeff Hopkins (gone since 2002) and Juliette Lewis (movie star moonlighting as non-existent event planner). Lee said Casey claims that these were the people "who knew Caylee was missing and were helping her to look for them." (remember, LE already knew they don't exist). Lee also furnishes the names of non-existent managers, as well as bogus emails on non-existent domains from said non-existent managers. BUT, along with all this is the name of a "coworker" at Universal named, Heather MacDonald. Lee claims she confirms that there was Jeff and that Casey was "hanging out with someone named Juliette." Now you will see lots of emails from Yuri M checking up on all the Universal data, and there is a Heather MacDonald who worked for management for a year starting after Casey was fired. The email has her correct phone number, as if he confirmed this all by talking to her," but how could he? The info Casey gave we know is all lies. Is this a tangible piece of perjury by Lee?
At the bottom of the email is (Ta Da!) a description of Zenaida and information on her mother, “Gloria," her sister, "Samantha," and of course, the inimitable roommate, "Raquel Farrell."


Lee's email is on page 276 of 432
Yuril Melich's emails to and from Universal and TGIFridays are on page 277-298 of 432
Casey's Bogus emails are on pages 299-304 of 432 (note the grammatical errors on these supposed business emails)
The email about Heather MacDonald is on Page 281 of 432

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

I'm sorry but you've lost me on the connection of this one. Lee may have been misinformed or forgetting ?? It's getting late

[playnice]

It shows Casey is perfectly sane, able to tell the truth, relay a serious of events, and perfectly able to call for help. Not only did she break the cardinal rule of not talking to anyone......she spoke to LE and it was recorded...........BIG NO NO!!

HeHe I love it.:biggrin:

[boo]

I also can't wrap my head around why Casey was still allowed to carry on with the Universal charade after it was determined she no longer worked there. Why wasn't she called on her lie of leaving there June 9th to head over to the Sawgrass apartments? Everybody had already established it was a lie, including Casey.

Same thing with the mysterious Blackjack that she had lost 9 days prior that was issued by Universal. How come none of my ex employers issue me cellphones long after my employment is terminated. So, wouldn't this have been a good time for one of the detectives to tell her the jig was up? "Remember Casey, you just told us you lied and you don't work here any longer?!"

[barskin&co.]

I'm sorry but you've lost me on the connection of this one. Lee may have been misinformed or forgetting ?? It's getting late

You have to look at his email. He gives her phone number and says she confirms, as if he talked to her personally, a lot of information that she couldn't possibly confirm.

[luvinlife]

I cant believe how many boyfriends that Caylee had to be around in her short little life:cuss:



I know what you mean, but I have to think that they may have been some of the more normal people in her life.

[hanlil]

You have to look at his email. He gives her phone number and says she confirms, as if he talked to her personally, a lot of information that she couldn't possibly confirm.

Maybe for some reason Casey made up a friend named Juliet and lied to Heather about it way back when she worked at Universal for some strange reason unrelated to all this.

[playnice]

You have to look at his email. He gives her phone number and says she confirms, as if he talked to her personally, a lot of information that she couldn't possibly confirm.

I just thought of something. If Z put her mother and sister down as references and their name is Sam & Gloria Z could win this case.

[desmom]

A White Party is often an AIDS/HIV fund raiser. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Party

[beckyj]

I tokk that to mean it's one of those parties where everyone dresses in white clothes.


That's what I thought too.

[luvinlife]

You have to look at his email. He gives her phone number and says she confirms, as if he talked to her personally, a lot of information that she couldn't possibly confirm.


I think if Lee did talk to her, that she just said yeah I may remember a so and so. Didn't Lee claim she called him back in the new info and said it wasn't a Jeff Hopkins , but it was a Jeff.

You know when people are talking to you and you can't remember a name and someone suggests one sometimes you think that may be the right name. I do think it is possible that Heather is real, I just don't think she knew what he thought she knew. He asked leading questions IMHO

[Shellberry]

:lol: ok but i was right about putting it in the brownies wasnt i? I have heard this threw the grape vine i guess they just think it gets them hig fasterhammer
lol, eating it makes you high? I thought it was the resin that did it?
no clue here, never did it. the best I do is beer.



I know what you mean, but I have to think that they may have been some of the more normal people in her life.

I still think when a guy got close enough to casey to like caylee--to treat her nice, casey got jealous.
I bet a lot of the guys had more fun playing dollies or tea party with caylee than they had with casey.
being around a child, if you dont have any can do that to a person.
maybe she thought because they played with caylee-they didnt like her anymore.
:shrug:


imo/jmo

[bluwaters]

I also can't wrap my head around why Casey was still allowed to carry on with the Universal charade after it was determined she no longer worked there. Why wasn't she called on her lie of leaving there June 9th to head over to the Sawgrass apartments? Everybody had already established it was a lie, including Casey.

Same thing with the mysterious Blackjack that she had lost 9 days prior that was issued by Universal. How come none of my ex employers issue me cellphones long after my employment is terminated. So, wouldn't this have been a good time for one of the detectives to tell her the jig was up? "Remember Casey, you just told us you lied and you don't work here any longer?!"

I think because they wanted her to continue to talk. They had already called her on her lies. It didn't get her to tell the truth. They moved on from that technique.

jmho

[beckyj]

I also can't wrap my head around why Casey was still allowed to carry on with the Universal charade after it was determined she no longer worked there. Why wasn't she called on her lie of leaving there June 9th to head over to the Sawgrass apartments? Everybody had already established it was a lie, including Casey.

Same thing with the mysterious Blackjack that she had lost 9 days prior that was issued by Universal. How come none of my ex employers issue me cellphones long after my employment is terminated. So, wouldn't this have been a good time for one of the detectives to tell her the jig was up? "Remember Casey, you just told us you lied and you don't work here any longer?!"


Maybe the old "give her enough rope" tactic.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I think if Lee did talk to her, that she just said yeah I may remember a so and so. Didn't Lee claim she called him back in the new info and said it wasn't a Jeff Hopkins , but it was a Jeff.

You know when people are talking to you and you can't remember a name and someone suggests one sometimes you think that may be the right name. I do think it is possible that Heather is real, I just don't think she knew what he thought she knew. He asked leading questions IMHO

Sort of like how the FAKE psychics ask leading questions and you just say Yeah that's it?

[luvinlife]

A White Party is often an AIDS/HIV fund raiser. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Party


Geez I quess if I ever go out I will have to google for information on the party I am invited to.


I can't believe out of all those text messages to Amy ( not including anyone else) that she only mentioned Caylee twice and part of that time she was alive and well. It is just insane.

[boo]

Maybe the old "give her enough rope" tactic.

So when do you suppose she'll hang herself? I can't imagine what lie there's left to say that she hasn't attempted already.

Bluwaters, good job with the candle every day. It's a constant reminder to me whenever I see your link. Thank you.

[brodysho]

Thanks desmom! I saved your timeline for future reference. The only thing I noticed is on June 23rd about casey and the brown haired guy. I believe in the docs a green truck was observed.

P.S the pot brownies are actually supposed to make you high longer and stronger, not faster. (What, i'm only 25 give me a break!! :shrug: )

[Lostgirl]

People who smoke pot and no i am not one of them put pot in brownies it's suppose to get you high faster.

people also put Hash in brownies... same idea basically

a girl i worked with was always talking about how her bf went nuts if she forgot to put his tupperware container with hash browns in his lunch... and i thought it was odd that someone was that crazy about fried potatoes EVERYDAY with their lunch lolol!

finally one day i asked her about it and she said "NOOO!! not potatoes!
When i bake brownies i put hash in them,,, he likes to have a toke of weed during the day but he can't at work so I send a tupperware container with a couple "hash brownies"

or as she referred to it... "hash browns"

ya learn something new everyday :shrug:

[hanlil]

One of the craziest things was that Casey gave Lee the phone number for the ever elusive Juliet but it turned out to be their neighbor Brittany's number. Doesn't Casey realize people will try to verify these things?

[Rebel Rouzer]

Thanks desmom! I saved your timeline for future reference. The only thing I noticed is on June 23rd about casey and the brown haired guy. I believe in the docs a green truck was observed.

P.S the pot brownies are actually supposed to make you high longer and stronger, not faster. (What, i'm only 25 give me a break!! :shrug: )


Lmao :lol: I started to explain how and what witht he brownies and just had to stop before i got myself in trouble. lol

[luvinlife]

lol, eating it makes you high? I thought it was the resin that did it?
no clue here, never did it. the best I do is beer.





I still think when a guy got close enough to casey to like caylee--to treat her nice, casey got jealous.
I bet a lot of the guys had more fun playing dollies or tea party with caylee than they had with casey.
being around a child, if you dont have any can do that to a person.
maybe she thought because they played with caylee-they didnt like her anymore.
:shrug:


imo/jmo


I think you could be quite right about the guys, she didn't like not getting all the attention.

[boo]

One of the craziest things was that Casey gave Lee the phone number for the ever elusive Juliet but it turned out to be their neighbor Brittany's number. Doesn't Casey realize people will try to verify these things?

That girl has no shame, not to mention conscience or heart.

[luvinlife]

Sort of like how the FAKE psychics ask leading questions and you just say Yeah that's it?



Yes just like that.

[Shellberry]

Originally Posted by jamma6 View Post
wait a minute, I already heard that they had thought of the dumpster and searching the landfill and they said nothing was found. Must have been on NG or back when Gretta had it on there
I thought they searched the dumpster/landfill not for caylee-but for anything from tonys that might have been considered evidence
-caylees toys, clothes, etc that would have been there if she stayed at his house.

imo/jmo

[luvinlife]

One of the craziest things was that Casey gave Lee the phone number for the ever elusive Juliet but it turned out to be their neighbor Brittany's number. Doesn't Casey realize people will try to verify these things?




No i don't think she did, because I imagine her parents didn't check things out that far or at all before this happened. I personally think they did try and check things out, (the reason for the fake emails), but once they saw the emails they stopped asking. I don't think they thought she would go that far.

[brodysho]

Lmao :lol: I started to explain how and what witht he brownies and just had to stop before i got myself in trouble. lol

:tongue: I hesitated, but went for it anyway. If there isn't some sort of resolution soon in this case, I may need a few brownies myself. :punch:

[playnice]

I thought they searched the dumpster/landfill not for caylee-but for anything from tonys that might have been considered evidence
-caylees toys, clothes, etc that would have been there if she stayed at his house.

imo/jmo

I wonder how often they empty the dumpster. Our town they do it weekly.

[Pruddennce]

Okay, here's something interesting. Lee emailed Yuri Melich with "information he and his family found out during their visits" to help with the search. Now he talks about Juliette Lewis and Jeff Hopkins, as Casey told him on a recorded jailhouse call. Mind you this email is dated July 26- ten dates after LE confronted her with the truth about her job status as well as that Jeff Hopkins (gone since 2002) and Juliette Lewis (movie star moonlighting as non-existent event planner). Lee said Casey claims that these were the people "who knew Caylee was missing and were helping her to look for them." (remember, LE already knew they don't exist). Lee also furnishes the names of non-existent managers, as well as bogus emails on non-existent domains from said non-existent managers. BUT, along with all this is the name of a "coworker" at Universal named, Heather MacDonald. Lee claims she confirms that there was Jeff and that Casey was "hanging out with someone named Juliette." Now you will see lots of emails from Yuri M checking up on all the Universal data, and there is a Heather MacDonald who worked for management for a year starting after Casey was fired. The email has her correct phone number, as if he confirmed this all by talking to her," but how could he? The info Casey gave we know is all lies. Is this a tangible piece of perjury by Lee?
At the bottom of the email is (Ta Da!) a description of Zenaida and information on her mother, “Gloria," her sister, "Samantha," and of course, the inimitable roommate, "Raquel Farrell."


Lee's email is on page 276 of 432
Yuril Melich's emails to and from Universal and TGIFridays are on page 277-298 of 432
Casey's Bogus emails are on pages 299-304 of 432 (note the grammatical errors on these supposed business emails)
The email about Heather MacDonald is on Page 281 of 432

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

barskin, this is what troubles me about Lee A.

yes, the info he is giving LE is information is from Casey, the same Bs...and its OLD so why did he prepare this 'maybe old but what the heck' info sheet for them? and speaking of the computer, all of her emails were wiped out from July 15 back, he stated that himself....soooooooo....nothing saved, nothing in the box, nothing unread and sitting there ripe for the picking...

where did he get the emails?

the most hideous lie of all: Casey actually states who purchased ZG's car for her?

good catch on Heather...Casey was gone, she wasnt a co-worker. I guess he did a who what where on the puter to get her # or 'used his people that can find out things'...I believe he stated that on one of the calls.....(IIRC).

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Rebel Rouzer]

I wonder how often they empty the dumpster. Our town they do it weekly.

Someone called into CNN today and ask what company and how often they dump and when their pick up date was and where they dump their load at.

She was very thorough in her questioning but nobody knew the answers and whether or not LE had checked all this out.

[tiny paw-prints]

Casey seemed to need a lot of gas cans in a short period of time

-her parents cans

-tony brought a can

-Amy got a can

Why so many gas cans in this story:shrug:

And, two flat tires in one night!

May 14, 2008: Casey drove home on 1 spare and 1 flat tire.

[luvinlife]

barskin, this is what troubles me about Lee A.

yes, the info he is giving LE is information is from Casey, the same Bs...and its OLD so why did he prepare this 'maybe old but what the heck' info sheet for them? and speaking of the computer, all of her emails were wiped out from July 15 back, he stated that himself....soooooooo....nothing saved, nothing in the box, nothing unread and sitting there ripe for the picking...

where did he get the emails?

the most hideous lie of all: Casey actually states who purchased ZG's car for her?

good catch on Heather...Casey was gone, she wasnt a co-worker. I guess he did a who what where on the puter to get her # or 'used his people that can find out things'...I believe he stated that on one of the calls.....(IIRC).

IMO

best regards,
Pru


Okay I did read but probably have to read again, I thought that it was just her yahoo stuff that were deleted. Were these emails from her yahoo account I don't remember, could they have been from another email like hotmail or something?


This case is going to drive me to drink, I need a filing cabinet for all the stuff and about 20 computers all with different things pulled up already to go.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Okay I did read but probably have to read again, I thought that it was just her yahoo stuff that were deleted. Were these emails from her yahoo account I don't remember, could they have been from another email like hotmail or something?


This case is going to drive me to drink, I need a filing cabinet for all the stuff and about 20 computers all with different things pulled up already to go.It all boils down to . Too many liars in this case. When we watch or follow other cases most people come forward witht he truth except for the suspect or person of interest. This case we have liars out the ying yang.

[cherish]

I don't have time to read many of these posts, so forgive me if you guys already discussed this subject but.....

I was thinking about Caylee's hair sample from the trunk. Do we know if her hair was tested for either Xanax or brownies?

TIA

[Shellberry]

whatever happened to the big bags of stuffed toys and such that Cindy had that she didn't want to keep? did cops take that?
those were the ones that people sent to them for caylee right?
they threw those out because they reeked of ciggy smoke--didnt hear anything else about them.
I think you could be quite right about the guys, she didn't like not getting all the attention.
sad to think about, but it does happen.
single mommy wants a guy, has to bring baby, they play with baby, warm up to them, mommy doesnt like it.
if that is the case, maybe they did it for casey-maybe they wanted to get closer to her, and by treating her daughter right..they thought they could get closer to her
casey saw it the opposite way, they like her more than me.
god this is such a sad case.

I wonder how often they empty the dumpster. Our town they do it weekly.
our garbage comes x2 a week, some people up the street have small dumpsters, I think they are cheaper.anyhoo-- twice a week here.
but everything is figured out soo good with the dumping, I believe LE said they would have one square mile to look in for that particular dumpster dump for the time they were interested in.


imo/jmo

[luvinlife]

It all boils down to . Too many liars in this case. When we watch or follow other cases most people come forward witht he truth except for the suspect or person of interest. This case we have liars out the ying yang.



I am not sure anymore, but do you think that this is all because they are a family that has always been so concerned about how things look on the outside, that they can't help but continue that behaviour now.

It just doesn't make sense to me even if the reason is to help save Casey, it is not working. I just can't believe that is the reason.

:shrug::confused::shrug:

[Pruddennce]

You have to look at his email. He gives her phone number and says she confirms, as if he talked to her personally, a lot of information that she couldn't possibly confirm.

right. "Heather also confirmed".....that is what he wrote. so....whats up with that? why provide a credible name and say this woman corroborated casey's story of co-workers?

it really nags me that Lee A thinks he is one-up on LE. as if LE wasnt checking out each and every name that Casey A provided regarding her UN-employment.

lets get real here: Lee A is writing as if Casey never lost her job and had very recent co-workers, just like her 'story' she told LE until she said she didnt work there anymore.

its two years of unemployment.....good grief.

best regards,
Pru

[beetlebrow]

Wow.....gone shopping...come back and :eek:

FIRST........A BIG THANK YOU TO DESMOM FOR YOUR OUTLINE OF THE INTERVIEWS!!!!!!!!........You always do so much for us, I hope someday we can somehow repay you.......YOU DA BOMB :seeya:

OK......The Anthonys are making 2 million off of the death of Caylee?????????????????? :flamemad: Now I noticed this obviously came from Lenny (somebody tell me again why he is still in the middle of this case?)......I will wait for conformation if this is true it is beyond belief......I honestly felt nauseous when I read this...

Caylee is in Puerto Rico? .....and this is because some anonymous person noticed Amy, Ricardo and Troy took different flights?. All I can say is somebody needs to grow a brain. This insignificant tidbit isn't even worth discussing IMO.

The letters between LE and Baez.....too funny!!!!! Oh I'm sorry I mean Jose Baez Esquire........I think he really should have gotten a bigger more obnoxious CREST on the top of his stationary......Good Lord I could hardly see it!!!!


Well thanks for letting me unload...........Carry on.............

[Rebel Rouzer]

I don't have time to read many of these posts, so forgive me if you guys already discussed this subject but.....

I was thinking about Caylee's hair sample from the trunk. Do we know if her hair was tested for either Xanax or brownies?

TIA

I don't think we know what they tested her hair for but I'm not sure brownies would be something that would show up in the hair or that would prove or lean toward incrininating evidence.

Brownies are usually something that most kids consume :biggrin:

[Lostgirl]

Okay I did read but probably have to read again, I thought that it was just her yahoo stuff that were deleted. Were these emails from her yahoo account I don't remember, could they have been from another email like hotmail or something?


This case is going to drive me to drink, I need a filing cabinet for all the stuff and about 20 computers all with different things pulled up already to go.


lol luvnlife... i feel the same way

for a while i was jotting stuff on a legal pad next to me but that quickly filled and was too much to page through to find anything

there's just soooo much and so many people and text messges and lies and ... *sigh*.... it's mind boggling

:shrug:

[Shellberry]

Okay I did read but probably have to read again, I thought that it was just her yahoo stuff that were deleted. Were these emails from her yahoo account I don't remember, could they have been from another email like hotmail or something?


This case is going to drive me to drink, I need a filing cabinet for all the stuff and about 20 computers all with different things pulled up already to go.

dang I need to read the rest of the new docs--all i got through was lees interview so far.
Im pooped already

but yes, lee said her yahoo was deleted, and then he said it had to have been done manually because a virus couldnt do that


imo/jmo

[luvinlife]

right. "Heather also confirmed".....that is what he wrote. so....whats up with that? why provide a credible name and say this woman corroborated casey's story of co-workers?

it really nags me that Lee A thinks he is one-up on LE. as if LE wasnt checking out each and every name that Casey A provided regarding her UN-employment.

lets get real here: Lee A is writing as if Casey never lost her job and had very recent co-workers, just like her 'story' she told LE until she said she didnt work there anymore.

its two years of unemployment.....good grief.

best regards,
Pru

.
IMO they are just doing what they always have done, believe Casey. If and when they have checked her out they stop at the simple answers and move on. They don't ever check in depth, I also think this goes to them needing it to be truthful because if they don't then Casey killed Caylee and they are refusing to believe that. It isn't necessarily denial anymore it is a refusal to believe anything else. JMO

[Shellberry]

I don't think we know what they tested her hair for but I'm not sure brownies would be something that would show up in the hair or that would prove or lean toward incrininating evidence.

Brownies are usually something that most kids consume :biggrin:

lol, I got a chuckle out of the brownies too ;)

pot stays in your hair for 7 years though right?
I bet le is way ahead of us on this--I think they tested/are testing for ANYTHING possible


imo.jmo

[Pruddennce]

Okay I did read but probably have to read again, I thought that it was just her yahoo stuff that were deleted. Were these emails from her yahoo account I don't remember, could they have been from another email like hotmail or something?


This case is going to drive me to drink, I need a filing cabinet for all the stuff and about 20 computers all with different things pulled up already to go.

yes, I feel the same way :)

all yahoo: caseyomarie@yahoo.com

plus this one, which is bogus: C.Anthony@events.universal.com with a cc to her yahoo address.

its in the zillion docs at the end:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Casey%20Anthony%20discovery%20Pages%20264-431.pdf

best regards,
Pru

[beetlebrow]

I am not sure anymore, but do you think that this is all because they are a family that has always been so concerned about how things look on the outside, that they can't help but continue that behaviour now.

It just doesn't make sense to me even if the reason is to help save Casey, it is not working. I just can't believe that is the reason.

:shrug::confused

Apparently the reason has changed to creating a "dramatic" story that will draw lots of viewers when it is shown on TV Movie....they are not paying the Anthonys 2 million for "normal" :biggrin:

[Rebel Rouzer]

lol, I got a chuckle out of the brownies too ;)

pot stays in your hair for 7 years though right?
I bet le is way ahead of us on this--I think they tested/are testing for ANYTHING possible


imo.jmo

I know it can stay in your system for up to 30 to 60 days but I have no clue about how long it stays in the hair. Does dye get rid of it in the hair or lice shampoo or???? :biggrin:

[luvinlife]

lol luvnlife... i feel the same way

for a while i was jotting stuff on a legal pad next to me but that quickly filled and was too much to page through to find anything

there's just soooo much and so many people and text messges and lies and ... *sigh*.... it's mind boggling

:shrug:


I need a team of assistants to help me out. lol


A giant calendar would help, and the giant screen I think i am going blind.


I think the computer being on the blue screen was interesting, but I have had that happen to soooo many of my computers that it could be from almost anything. Virus, deleting the wrong thing, corrupted files.

I am sure LE has all that they need from the computer. They would be able to get all the emails from Yahoo no?

[beckyj]

Wow.....gone shopping...come back and :eek:

FIRST........A BIG THANK YOU TO DESMOM FOR YOUR OUTLINE OF THE INTERVIEWS!!!!!!!!........You always do so much for us, I hope someday we can somehow repay you.......YOU DA BOMB :seeya:

OK......The Anthonys are making 2 million off of the death of Caylee?????????????????? :flamemad: Now I noticed this obviously came from Lenny (somebody tell me again why he is still in the middle of this case?)......I will wait for conformation if this is true it is beyond belief......I honestly felt nauseous when I read this...

Caylee is in Puerto Rico? .....and this is because some anonymous person noticed Amy, Ricardo and Troy took different flights?. All I can say is somebody needs to grow a brain. This insignificant tidbit isn't even worth discussing IMO.

The letters between LE and Baez.....too funny!!!!! Oh I'm sorry I mean Jose Baez Esquire........I think he really should have gotten a bigger more obnoxious CREST on the top of his stationary......Good Lord I could hardly see it!!!!


Well thanks for letting me unload...........Carry on.............

Anytime beetlebrow. Yes Desmom - Thank You!

I feel like I need to get on with my life. I'm getting to stuck on this case, but it's hard to forget for Caylee's sake.

[cherish]

lol, I got a chuckle out of the brownies too ;)

pot stays in your hair for 7 years though right?
I bet le is way ahead of us on this--I think they tested/are testing for ANYTHING possible


imo.jmo

How about chloroform, can they test hair for that?

[luvinlife]

yes, I feel the same way :)

all yahoo: caseyomarie@yahoo.com

plus this one, which is bogus: C.Anthony@events.universal.com with a cc to her yahoo address.

its in the zillion docs at the end:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Casey%20Anthony%20discovery%20Pages%20264-431.pdf

best regards,
Pru


interesting hmmmmmmmmmmm


I don't know what to think about that. :confused:

[dixie77]

I don't have time to read many of these posts, so forgive me if you guys already discussed this subject but.....

I was thinking about Caylee's hair sample from the trunk. Do we know if her hair was tested for either Xanax or brownies?

TIA
========================

U mean to tell me that they can detect if u ate brownies from your hair?

[Rebel Rouzer]

i wonder if SP's parents have contacted them, with support. You know, the 'we know what it's like thing.


Same depth of denial imo.Are yo kidding? The P's are too warpped up in deny deny deny to worry about others. I know they were contacted by people who really lost their children in one form or another that they had no part of in their death or disappearence. Hope that made sense. Its getting late. lol

[luvinlife]

Apparently the reason has changed to creating a "dramatic" story that will draw lots of viewers when it is shown on TV Movie....they are not paying the Anthonys 2 million for "normal" :biggrin:



IMO if that is the reason which I find hard to believe,it would be on JB instruction.

I can't see them pulling this off if it wasn't in their nature to begin with.

[tiny paw-prints]

Thanks, I had missed that.

I wonder where she drove to get 2 flats, thats irregular.

I don't think it says where she/they went.

I lifted this from Desmom's timeline:

May 14, 2008
Amy, Ricardo, Troy and Casey go out that evening. Page 40 – 41; Page 132
Casey has 2 flat tires. She calls Ricardo & Troy for help. Page 40; Pages 104 – 105; Page 132
Casey tries to drive home on a spare and a flat. She left the car in residential neighborhood. Ricardo and Troy drove her home. Page 135

[luvinlife]

How about chloroform, can they test hair for that?



I thought someone asked Kobi about that, maybe just about the body, but I think it leaves the body too soon to be found in the system or hair. No link so moo

[dixie77]

Originally Posted by Pruddennce (snipped)
yes, I feel the same way

all yahoo: caseyomarie@yahoo.com

================

Is this a working email for Casey? OHHHHHHHH i would love to email her.

[beetlebrow]

IMO if that is the reason which I find hard to believe,it would be on JB instruction.

I can't see them pulling this off if it wasn't in their nature to begin with.

Oh I know.....they definitely are for real....I was just kidding because the 2 million dollar deal is so bizarre!!!....but then so are they :D

[Pruddennce]

I need a team of assistants to help me out. lol


A giant calendar would help, and the giant screen I think i am going blind.


I think the computer being on the blue screen was interesting, but I have had that happen to soooo many of my computers that it could be from almost anything. Virus, deleting the wrong thing, corrupted files.

I am sure LE has all that they need from the computer. They would be able to get all the emails from Yahoo no?

I agree with you, LE has it all puter-wise...mysteries are solved, (if there were any)....its the peripheral players that are an issue IMO...Lee A and his 'helping hand' stating his parents have the copies of her work emails....well, a 'work email' dated May of 2008: Casey A wasnt employed there.

its bogus.

so why is Lee A writing about co-workers and work emails: is he that dense and doesnt understand she was unemployed since 06?

best regards,
Pru

ETA: the emails are at the end of the 400 page doc.
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Casey%20Anthony%20discovery%20Pages%20264-431.pdf

[Shellberry]

I know it can stay in your system for up to 30 to 60 days but I have no clue about how long it stays in the hair. Does dye get rid of it in the hair or lice shampoo or???? :biggrin:
huh, I wonder.
I doubt it, or people would be passing drug tests for work all over the place, lol


How about chloroform, can they test hair for that?
interesting question, I bet they could-test for anything 'not normal' then they find things that are not normal and test them further to see what they are?
:shrug:


imo/jmo

[Rebel Rouzer]

anything makes sense after all these brownies. lol


lol Good becaue I have to get some sleep. I'll be back sometime tomorrow. Hope to see ya all then. Hopefully there will be an arrest of Casey tomorrow concerning the disappearence of her daughter and if not I hope they find Caylee tomorrow regardless if there is an arrest.

I know sometimes they wait a very long time or until a body is found to prosecute them but this woman needs to be in jail now. i feel the longer she is out the longer it will take to get her prosecuted and in the end convicted.

Night :seeya:

[luvinlife]

Anytime beetlebrow. Yes Desmom - Thank You!

I feel like I need to get on with my life. I'm getting to stuck on this case, but it's hard to forget for Caylee's sake.



I too feel like I need to stop listening to this case and being on this board, I want to because sometimes I get too emotional. I can be crying, angry or even depressed feeling. I am getting nothing done. I can't seem to leave, because I so desperatly want to Caylee to be found. I feel like I need to know what happened and that I may miss important information if i am not here. :(

Hi my name is luvinlife and I am a In Session addict.



For Caylee :rose:

[Shellberry]

I agree with you, LE has it all puter-wise...mysteries are solved, (if there were any)....its the peripheral players that are an issue...Lee A and his 'helping hand' stating his parents have the copies of her work emails....well, a 'work email dated May of 2008: Casey A wasnt employed there.

its bogus.

so why is Lee A writing about co-workers and work emails: is he that dense and doesnt understand she was unemployed since 06?

best regards,
Pru
what gets me is not the blue screen- I shut mine off wrong sometimes when it locks up, I get the screen too-what gets me is the fact of how detailed he went into it.
there is only one way to get a blue screen like he explained...that is to try to wipe it/reinstall windows..and shut it off in the middle of the reinstall.
or to purposely delete certain files.
(program files)
if you know what to look for, it is extremely easy to do.
mess someones comp up so they cant use it...
(yes, Im bad, I know from experience)

I think lee lent his hand to delete certain files hoping that they couldnt get onto it and leave it at that.


imo/jmo

[cherish]

what gets me is not the blue screen- I shut mine off wrong sometimes when it locks up, I get the screen too-what gets me is the fact of how detailed he went into it.
there is only one way to get a blue screen like he explained...that is to try to wipe it/reinstall windows..and shut it off in the middle of the reinstall.
or to purposely delete certain files.
(program files)
if you know what to look for, it is extremely easy to do.
mess someones comp up so they cant use it...
(yes, Im bad, I know from experience)

I think lee lent his hand to delete certain files hoping that they couldnt get onto it and leave it at that.


imo/jmo

I was always under the impression that you could not totally delete data from a computer. :shrug:

[luvinlife]

I agree with you, LE has it all puter-wise...mysteries are solved, (if there were any)....its the peripheral players that are an issue IMO...Lee A and his 'helping hand' stating his parents have the copies of her work emails....well, a 'work email' dated May of 2008: Casey A wasnt employed there.

its bogus.

so why is Lee A writing about co-workers and work emails: is he that dense and doesnt understand she was unemployed since 06?

best regards,
Pru

ETA: the emails are at the end of the 400 page doc.
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Casey%20Anthony%20discovery%20Pages%20264-431.pdf



Because they were not smart enough to know that the emails were faked, and because they thought LE only was checking Universal not Kodak and Colorvision.



"So here is the proof they thought that it was just a mistake, we know she didn't work for universal it was contract through Kodak/colorvision here are the emails that prove it. "

oooops wrong again.

[boo]

Does anybody happen to know the date/year of that picture of Casey with the blonde hair that's been floating around NG for the past few shows?

[Pruddennce]

what gets me is not the blue screen- I shut mine off wrong sometimes when it locks up, I get the screen too-what gets me is the fact of how detailed he went into it.
there is only one way to get a blue screen like he explained...that is to try to wipe it/reinstall windows..and shut it off in the middle of the reinstall.
or to purposely delete certain files.
(program files)
if you know what to look for, it is extremely easy to do.
mess someones comp up so they cant use it...
(yes, Im bad, I know from experience)

I think lee lent his hand to delete certain files hoping that they couldnt get onto it and leave it at that.


imo/jmo

I live with a technology director. :D

Casey was happily tapping away when her mother burst in according to Tony.

she wouldnt have any reason to be blowing away her computer at that point. it was a lifeline.

and her life wasnt ending because her mother showed up. IMO

best regards,
Pru

[barskin&co.]

I think if Lee did talk to her, that she just said yeah I may remember a so and so. Didn't Lee claim she called him back in the new info and said it wasn't a Jeff Hopkins , but it was a Jeff.

You know when people are talking to you and you can't remember a name and someone suggests one sometimes you think that may be the right name. I do think it is possible that Heather is real, I just don't think she knew what he thought she knew. He asked leading questions IMHO


Yeah, but Heather MacDonald was an employee for a year beginning 5/06 and Casey was fired in 4/06.

[Pruddennce]

Because they were not smart enough to know that the emails were faked, and because they thought LE only was checking Universal not Kodak and Colorvision.



"So here is the proof they thought that it was just a mistake, we know she didn't work for universal it was contract through Kodak/colorvision here are the emails that prove it. "

oooops wrong again.

lol, but didnt they 'get it' that she hadnt worked ANYWHERE that would produce a W-2 since 2006?

Lee A is sleuthing as if he believed she still had a job anywhere in that complex?

best regards,
Pru

[cherish]

I thought that Lee said that LE had already picked up Casey's phone from Tony's. So, why didn't LE pick up her computer and the rest of her stuff?

[Shellberry]

I was always under the impression that you could not totally delete data from a computer. :shrug:

you cant unless you take it to a professional.
maybe they didnt realize it...or maybe they didnt think LE knew..

you can mess with program files & make someone comp really messed up.

say you want to mess with someone--go into start menu-then search, then do a search for deleted files and delete all those files listed.
empty recycle bin.
that will cause a bad blue screen error.


imo/jmo

[anyonesguess]

For anyone interested...

Mark NeJame's firm will be posting all documents pertaining to the Caylee Anthony Trust Fund on a website in the coming days.

'We have determined it best that the information be available for the entire public to see.'

The above is from an email I received from Mark NeJame's law firm.

LandShark, TY for that information!

[cherish]

you cant unless you take it to a professional.
maybe they didnt realize it...or maybe they didnt think LE knew..

you can mess with program files & make someone comp really messed up.

say you want to mess with someone--go into start menu-then search, then do a search for deleted files and delete all those files listed.
empty recycle bin.
that will cause a bad blue screen error.


imo/jmo

Wow, somebody should have told Monica Lewinsky about this.

Thanks, for the info - in case I ever need it. :)

[aubrey04]

Test the hair for brownies? Another Betty Crocker mystery.

LOL.. I think s/he meant the marijuana brownies.. So test the hair for marijuana.

[dreamtime]

Does anybody happen to know the date/year of that picture of Casey with the blonde hair that's been floating around NG for the past few shows?

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Guessing. Two years ago, 2006. She had that blonde hair in pics with JG.
Anyone else?