WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 24th

[callmetree]

:seeya: good morning all. i just finished reading up from yesterday. some very good posters! hope we all have a good day today:) actually i wish i could sleep :D any suggestions are more than welcome!

[apocalypse]

Wild Turkey!:)

[callmetree]

Wild Turkey!:)

might help.....;) thanks! i'm at the point i'd try anything. well almost.

[JBL]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/24/oj.simpson/index.html

"Clark County District Court Judge Jackie Glass said she will rule Wednesday on whether the prosecution can put David Cook on the witness stand. Cook is an attorney for the family of Ron Goldman, whose 1994 murder Simpson was acquitted in criminal court but held liable in a civil trial.

Cook represents the Goldmans in their efforts to recover assets as part of the civil judgment against Simpson for Goldman's wrongful death"

[AnnInOhio]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/09/24/oj.simpson/index.html

"Clark County District Court Judge Jackie Glass said she will rule Wednesday on whether the prosecution can put David Cook on the witness stand. Cook is an attorney for the family of Ron Goldman, whose 1994 murder Simpson was acquitted in criminal court but held liable in a civil trial.

Cook represents the Goldmans in their efforts to recover assets as part of the civil judgment against Simpson for Goldman's wrongful death"

I just finished listening to Cook on the stand but haven't heard legal argument between the judge and attorneys. Cook refers to interrogatories from December 2006 forward. I'm surprised they didn't go back to the mid '90's when the first interrogatories were done to see if OJ has EVER claimed owning the memorabilia. Back to the initial court order approving the "leaked" pending LE removal of assets at Rockingham listing what items were to have been seized. If these items were listed to be picked up OJ surely had to answer to the court at that time where they were. He would have had to either declared them stolen at that time or declared he didn't own them. If OJ had declared them stolen to that first court they'd have asked if they were insured and collect any insurance reimbursement for them. I agree with Yale that the current interrogatories are snapshots of what OJ currently owns. I'd trace it back through the civil court records.

[dmh]

HI,
Did riccio tape what was said in the hotel room after the robbery?

[AnnInOhio]

Yale says "If there was an interrogatory that said 'Have you ever claimed to have had property stolen from you in excess of $500' and he (OJ) answered that question 'No', and swore to it, clearly that would be relevant to impeach Mr. Simpson's prior testimony in that interrogatory. But here it has nothing to do with the issues in this case." I think this suggests that Yale knows OJ never reported the items stolen on any court interrogatories.

[AnnInOhio]

HI,
Did riccio tape what was said in the hotel room after the robbery?

The recorder continued to run in the room for awhile. Remember hearing that it caught the cops talking amongst themselves?

[dmh]

The recorder continued to run in the room for awhile. Remember hearing that it caught the cops talking amongst themselves?

I didn't remember and tx:seeya:

[AnnInOhio]

As I'm thinking about it, it almost seems to me that putting any of the interrogatory stuff in send a wrong message to the jurors - feeding OJ's defense that he was going in there to get his own "stuff". They should instead pound home the law: it doesn't matter whether Fromong and Beardsley had his stuff or their stuff in that room. It'll illegal to inveigle and entice anyone to a hotel room for the purpose of robbing them of stuff. It's illegal to hold someone in a hotel room through intimidation, and it's illegal to take items under those conditions instead of seeking civil legal recourse. I think it might be a better tactic to blow off OJ's "it was about MY stuff" defense at every turn.

[grafittix]

Ashley just said she has a "journalisitc" crush on Riccio. :D

If i didn't already think she was a complete idiot, that would have sealed it for me. She has been absolutely gushing over him for days. Ridiculous.

[sceck]

I just saw part of the replays and I think I recognize the tall, light haired prosecutor, I think it was during opening statements, and haven't seen him through the trial. Question: Was he the same prosecutor on the Margaret Rudin trial?

[AnnInOhio]

morning guys!

So Cook testified last night. thanks for the posts, ann. i agree with you, trace it. but i also agree that yale knows.

between this case and now they have release 600 more pages of the caylee investigation i'm going nuts! i'm onlhy on page 117.

who's the next witness today?

we were going to have more blueberry muffins this morning but bearwds must have been up snacking on them last night, lol. so i made biscuits with strawberry butter for this morning with some coffee. help yourself!

He was questioned by the judge and attorneys. He didn't testify in front of the jury yet. I think they'll have him on to testify today - shouldn't take long.

I have cinnamon rolls & coffee and keep trying to get over to check out the new Caylee documents.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I just saw part of the replays and I think I recognize the tall, light haired prosecutor, I think it was during opening statements, and haven't seen him through the trial. Question: Was he the same prosecutor on the Margaret Rudin trial?

You correct..I had to look that up tho..

LmS

[grafittix]

i think it is funny. i have a small crush on him too. :tongue:

but you're a viewer so it's ok :) she's supposedly "reporting"

[sceck]

Thanks Lynda-that would have bothered me all day wondering!!! I followed that one gavel to gavel for sure.

[JBL]

Yale says "If there was an interrogatory that said 'Have you ever claimed to have had property stolen from you in excess of $500' and he (OJ) answered that question 'No', and swore to it, clearly that would be relevant to impeach Mr. Simpson's prior testimony in that interrogatory. But here it has nothing to do with the issues in this case." I think this suggests that Yale knows OJ never reported the items stolen on any court interrogatories.


There is a document somewhere that OJ signed thru the legal system (I don't even know what it's legally called) but it's to the effect that a) Nothing was stolen b)to the best of his knowledge he owns nothing else of value. c)everything he had was turned over.

Man, it's getting tough to look up past OJ stuff - there so many documents uch out there spanning his different court charges thru the years.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Thanks Lynda-that would have bothered me all day wondering!!! I followed that one gavel to gavel for sure.

You are welcome...... I know what you mean..also Mr. Roger was the Prosecuter in the Binion Trial..

LMS:seeya:

[JBL]

As I'm thinking about it, it almost seems to me that putting any of the interrogatory stuff in send a wrong message to the jurors - feeding OJ's defense that he was going in there to get his own "stuff". They should instead pound home the law: it doesn't matter whether Fromong and Beardsley had his stuff or their stuff in that room. It'll illegal to inveigle and entice anyone to a hotel room for the purpose of robbing them of stuff. It's illegal to hold someone in a hotel room through intimidation, and it's illegal to take items under those conditions instead of seeking civil legal recourse. I think it might be a better tactic to blow off OJ's "it was about MY stuff" defense at every turn.

IMO, they're trying to do all. Show motive - Simpsons frame of mind and why/how these items came to be in Fromongs possession.

I recall Galanter trying to make a point with Det. Caldwell of how he checked to see who was the rightfull owner. (IMO - trying to prove they were just out for OJ and nothing was checked regarding OJ's statements of it's his stuff.) Caldwell testified that was not one of the criteria's for determining a robbery. Somewhere I've read that in actuallity Caldwell did contact Goldmans attorney to determine ownership although it was NOT before OJ was arrested.

[AnnInOhio]

Jami Floyed just said, regarding OJ, "He doesn't sound like someone who is concerned about being arrested for armed robbery and kidnapping and facing down a life sentence. It's entirely consistent. Look, he was mistaken, he was mistaken if he thought he could take his own stuff back. But the bottom line is that does not sound like a man, and he knows he's OJ Simpson, he knows the authorities would come after him and arrest him and slam him if he'd really done anything all that bad...He's not concerned because he's not thinking like a criminal."

The bottom line, Jami, is that he was mistaken. He was mistaken! And he WAS thinking like a criminal, he just can't bring himself to admit it because he knows he's the great and powerful OJ Simpson. No wonder OJ constantly whistles "If I Only Had A Brain" from "The Wizard of Oz"!

[AnnInOhio]

I must be sidetracked somewhere. On InSession Lisa is talking about a tape of OJ after the incident saying "I'm trying to figure out what story to tell." Has that been played in court yet? I didn't remember that.

[warrkat]

Jami Floyed just said, regarding OJ, "He doesn't sound like someone who is concerned about being arrested for armed robbery and kidnapping and facing down a life sentence. It's entirely consistent. Look, he was mistaken, he was mistaken if he thought he could take his own stuff back. But the bottom line is that does not sound like a man, and he knows he's OJ Simpson, he knows the authorities would come after him and arrest him and slam him if he'd really done anything all that bad...He's not concerned because he's not thinking like a criminal."

The bottom line, Jami, is that he was mistaken. He was mistaken! And he WAS thinking like a criminal, he just can't bring himself to admit it because he knows he's the great and powerful OJ Simpson. No wonder OJ constantly whistles "If I Only Had A Brain" from "The Wizard of Oz"!

:D THAT's what he's been mumbling to himself! I thought it might be "What Kind of Fool Am I?"

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Jami Floyed just said, regarding OJ, "He doesn't sound like someone who is concerned about being arrested for armed robbery and kidnapping and facing down a life sentence. It's entirely consistent. Look, he was mistaken, he was mistaken if he thought he could take his own stuff back. But the bottom line is that does not sound like a man, and he knows he's OJ Simpson, he knows the authorities would come after him and arrest him and slam him if he'd really done anything all that bad...He's not concerned because he's not thinking like a criminal."

The bottom line, Jami, is that he was mistaken. He was mistaken! And he WAS thinking like a criminal, he just can't bring himself to admit it because he knows he's the great and powerful OJ Simpson. No wonder OJ constantly whistles "If I Only Had A Brain" from "The Wizard of Oz"!

LOL Ann...The group also spoke about the criminal backgrounds of the two witnesses..Rizzio and Erlich and how Yale was attempting to use that fact to show these guys would NEVER get invlovled with anything against the law and risk getting re-incarcerated..Humm..I wonder how he can then say that same spin about those other witnesses who have records..to make it seem they Did break the law.!!.aka..McClinton..as one example..hum??or Walter Alexander..who Yale tried to dirty up during the preliminary hearing..

LMS:shrug:

[sceck]

I live in Maryland and have been on the Grand Jury since February. In fact, tomorrow my obligation expires. Hooray! But, we did have a case brought before us regarding a robbery and murder and we had to find cause to indict. We were instructed that one could indeed be found guilty of robbery when force is used to take something, even if that item or items belonged to the person doing the taking. If that is true, then whether or not these items belonged to OJ seems to make this a moot point. Anybody want to clarify that for me?

[AnnInOhio]

Oh, dear. :( Watching him testify, all I could think of was how much his face reminds me of the back end of my ****zu. (a dog breed, shetzu)

That's funny! Riccio reminded me of my fat, silver and white brown eyed husky that always has an impish look on his face and everything in life is a game! And they apparently have being a runner in common (Riccio's past prison escape)! Husky's are notorious for being hard to obedience train, and Riccio had trouble monitoring his mouth on the stand without constant reprimand.

[AnnInOhio]

:D THAT's what he's been mumbling to himself! I thought it might be "What Kind of Fool Am I?"

He's heard whistling it on tape and Riccio testified he whistles or hums the tune all the time.

[warrkat]

He's heard whistling it on tape and Riccio testified he whistles or hums the tune all the time.

I didn't know that..... that's funny. Sometimes I think he left his brain on the football field.

[AnnInOhio]

he was whispering "Clay Aiken just said he was gay to the world, why do people hate me".

Clay Aiken is gay? Really?? ;)

[vonna]

yes i just saw it online.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20228488,00.html

my comment about oj saying that was to joke about how oj can take one subject not related to him, and make it all his own. LOL

Anyone else think attorney Bryson is a big blow-hard???

[AnnInOhio]

yes i just saw it online.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20228488,00.html

my comment about oj saying that was to joke about how oj can take one subject not related to him, and make it all his own. LOL

I know. I was joking too. I can imagine OJ muttering to himself "Wow! I never saw THAT one coming, either!"

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I live in Maryland and have been on the Grand Jury since February. In fact, tomorrow my obligation expires. Hooray! But, we did have a case brought before us regarding a robbery and murder and we had to find cause to indict. We were instructed that one could indeed be found guilty of robbery when force is used to take something, even if that item or items belonged to the person doing the taking. If that is true, then whether or not these items belonged to OJ seems to make this a moot point. Anybody want to clarify that for me?

You are right on that point..OJ had no right to take abunch of guys to that room and intimidate the two marks to take anything..however the defense (Yale and Grasso) are attempting to nullify the jury to feel sympathy for OJ..and that OJ felt it was not against the law to get his stuff back..LOL

The other thing is that OJ didnt think these two marks would ever call the police..but they did..and the guns brought into the mix enhanced that robbery to felony's. I do think that IF no guns..OJ would have been charged..but with far lessor crime and no jail time..given the sleeze factor among all parties here..

LMS:seeya:

P.S. Wow..to sit on a GJ..must have been eye opening experience..Kudos to you!

[AnnInOhio]

Anyone else think attorney Bryson is a big blow-hard???


I think he's secretly tickled to death to have his client sitting in court being tried with OJ. Next to OJ, Stewart looks like a Boy Scout!

[sceck]

Again, thank you Lynda. Yes, the GJ was most interesting. Very, very different than petit jury. Only one side (the prosecution) is presented, to show just cause for indictments. Most people don't take it as seriously as I think they should; they all, not all, but most, just vote for indictment at the highest degree, stating that the court will decide later if they want to lessen the charges at time of trial. That still bothers me.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Again, thank you Lynda. Yes, the GJ was most interesting. Very, very different than petit jury. Only one side (the prosecution) is presented, to show just cause for indictments. Most people don't take it as seriously as I think they should; they all, not all, but most, just vote for indictment at the highest degree, stating that the court will decide later if they want to lessen the charges at time of trial. That still bothers me.

I take from your concerns..that is why the coined phrase arose.."A Grand Jury will indict a Ham Sandwich"...I guess where you were concerned..that Ham Sandwish would survive to be eaten another day!!

I agree with you tho.too often G.Jurors just want to get it done with..pro prosecution..etc!!..One question for ya..Do the group of GJurors discuss the evidence??Is there any real debates..and devil advocates?? I find it very interesting..i love learning from other's experiences..


LMS:cool:

[AnnInOhio]

There was a comment on InSession likening this case to the movie "My Cousin Vinny". I was thinking of Joe Pesci's examination of Marissa Tomai when when Yale was cross-examining Ehrlich their friendship and familiarity with each other led to a lot of the talking over each instead of the typical, and required, question and answer. Another comment was that everyone expected the criminal reputations of these witnesses would call into question their reliability. Yale, as Erhlich's friend, instead tried to turn it around as a "plus" for the defense.

[AnnInOhio]

Good call, judge! Cook will not testify. The waters won't be muddied by the prosecution attempting to go into OJ's excuse-as-a-defense which is moot anyway.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

We are live now..Walter Alexander on stand..Direct testimony started..
LMS

[sceck]

Yes, Lynda. In fact, we had a case of murder where there were two young men, (19 and 21), and we were asked to indict of first degree murder. One used a baseball bat to kill another young man during an argument. The other boy drove them away. I truly agreed with the charge on the boy who did the act, but really wanted a second degree murder charge on the second boy. I lost. There was only one other person in the room of 23 who voted the way I did. There were one or two who abstained. Again, the argument was, "Well the State can still bring a second degree charge, or the jury can find second degree." Although that is true, I believe the charge should fit the crime, and I don't think the second boy could absolutely KNOW what was in the mind of the first boy. I don't think there would have been any miscarriage of justice had the second boy been indicted of second degree murder. BTW the photos were horrendous! I'm glad the whole thing is over, but I did learn a lot.

[Fallen Angel]

We are live now..Walter Alexander on stand..Direct testimony started..
LMS

i love his glasses

[AnnInOhio]

I love the way OJ always assumes the world is just going to give in to what he wants.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

i love his glasses

Designer glasses for sure..matching his Bible...hum...

All kidding aside..I think Waler along with Gilbert is going to sink OJ's Ship of Fools"!!

LMShammer

[AnnInOhio]

I think at least one juror is going to see eye-to-eye with Alexander about the tackiness of the book

[JBL]

Good call, judge! Cook will not testify. The waters won't be muddied by the prosecution attempting to go into OJ's excuse-as-a-defense which is moot anyway.

I do see your point. This robbery was wrong on so many different levels no matter which level you argued on. I guess just stick to the basics and let the state of california deal with the other level of who the stuff actually belonged to.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I do see your point. This robbery was wrong on so many different levels no matter which level you argued on. I guess just stick to the basics and let the state of california deal with the other level of who the stuff actually belonged to.

Cook's testimony is not necessary as I think this witness along with Gilbert will be able to serve that same purpose..OJ's mindset was to keep this stuff out the Goldman's clutches..

As to the gun's in the mix..this witness along with McClinton.is going to clarify who really wanted them there..
LMS

[Lqqkout]

Again, thank you Lynda. Yes, the GJ was most interesting. Very, very different than petit jury. Only one side (the prosecution) is presented, to show just cause for indictments. Most people don't take it as seriously as I think they should; they all, not all, but most, just vote for indictment at the highest degree, stating that the court will decide later if they want to lessen the charges at time of trial. That still bothers me.

I served 3 months on the grand jury in Massachusetts where we take gj duty very seriously. I remember the very 1st day hearing 8 different sex abuse cases. That opened my eyes. Anyway we did return a no bill on one case (rape case) much to the chagrin of the pro. Sorry about off topic.

[Lqqkout]

prejucide out ways the probative - no mr. cook - so sayth the judge.

I missed the start of the trial. Is Cook going to testify?

[Fallen Angel]

does anyone believe WA's testimony?

I kinda sorta maybe believe it.

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=barry'sgirl;12176166]morning guys!
we were going to have more blueberry muffins this morning but bearwds must have been up snacking on them last night, lol. so i made biscuits with strawberry butter for this morning with some coffee. help yourself!...<SNIP>
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HEY..!! (smacking lips) ..you have no proof of that
<picking teeth> ..it matters not what tapes you have of me doing the dirty deed. ...slurp, drool

Looks like Mr. Alexander is sinking the OJ ship right now with placing the guns not only in the room, but the REQUEST that "heat" be brought.

Pass the biscuits pls.


bearwds

[JBL]

does anyone believe WA's testimony?

I kinda sorta maybe believe it.


Sounds like he's just relaying what happened.

[AnnInOhio]

Cook's testimony is not necessary as I think this witness along with Gilbert will be able to serve that same purpose..OJ's mindset was to keep this stuff out the Goldman's clutches..

As to the gun's in the mix..this witness along with McClinton.is going to clarify who really wanted them there..
LMS

I'm coming to believe this was much more about OJ getting this stuff out of Gilbert's clutches. If OJ could get it to Florida I think he thought he probably could have kept it out of Goldman's clutches by other means. I think he has a deep seated hatred of Mike Gilbert.

[callmetree]

i think maybe the hummer forgot to take his meds today. he's moving way too much. MOO :tongue: hopefully it's now time he starts getting the jitters. wait.. is he capable of this?:shrug:

[AnnInOhio]

does anyone believe WA's testimony?

I kinda sorta maybe believe it.

I'm buying it so far. I can even forgive him for initially wanting to tape this brain-dead exploit of OJ's for profit.

[AnnInOhio]

I love his blue suit and tie. Very sharp. IMO

I forget...Is Alexander the alleged or former ****?

[bearwds]

i think maybe the hummer forgot to take his meds today. he's moving way too much. MOO :tongue: hopefully it's now time he starts getting the jitters. wait.. is he capable of this?:shrug:
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Disagree a bit callmetree. Doing a lot of head shaking towards the jury this morning.

I think he believes that he will still beat the rap. He is OJ.


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I forget...Is Alexander the alleged or former ****?


LOL..I think in the prelim it was brought out that Walter and his wife have an "Online Dating Service"...hummmmEscort Service.. currently

LMS:punch:

[JBL]

Just sayin - ain't no guns - just ain't no guns! Hah huh hah just sayin aint' no guns


:lol:

[bearwds]

OJ enjoying the recounting of aftermath of robbery:

"<the "n" word>....just get out of town"

Big laugh which he covered up for the jury.

No flat affect for the Juice today.


bearwds

[AnnInOhio]

There's OJ's sister again! What message did she bring? Inquiring minds want to know. We'll see if the jury asks if the attorneys don't. I would, since she was also there at the pool conversations.

[callmetree]

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Disagree a bit callmetree. Doing a lot of head shaking towards the jury this morning.

I think he believes that he will still beat the rap. He is OJ.


bearwds

i never said i thought that his mindset was that he would be found guilty. in my opinion he thinks he will never be held responsible for anything he has ever done. he justs seems more antimated today. maybe it's the witness on the stand right now. but i do totally agree with you that he thinks he will beat this thing!

[AnnInOhio]

Just sayin - ain't no guns - just ain't no guns! Hah huh hah just sayin aint' no guns


:lol:

I can just hear the post-incident team huddle. "I'm Juice! We'll skate if everybody just gets this simple little phrase down pat "Ain't no guns!" Work with me, people!"

[JBL]

I can just hear the post-incident team huddle. "I'm Juice! We'll skate if everybody just gets this simple little phrase down pat "Ain't no guns!" Work with me, people!"

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas - UNLESS your JUICE huh hah huh

By the time that took place you have to remember he laughed it off with the police right after his panic attack with Riccio.

He thought they were home free.

[kellabeck]

Jury nullification??? The jury feels SORRY for the poor double killer?? He's being framed???

Big problem with this--- would the others in the group, even the guys with the guns, have gone into that room to grab that stuff without the Operator, Orenthal Simpson, the prime mover, the actor, the instigator??

But for...?

[kellabeck]

Oh, good grief! Jami Floyd is predicting "OJ walks."

[bearwds]

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas - UNLESS your JUICE huh hah huh

By the time that took place you have to remember he laughed it off with the police right after his panic attack with Riccio.

He thought they were home free.
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And now he will get a free home, courtesy of the State of Nevada.

Jamie's "last word".....bletch .......OJ "just missed the guns"

Ignoring the plan to arm the posse works for her. Not too sure on the jury.


bearwds

[kellabeck]

The jury is going to have to believe that EVERYONE is lying except Simpson, the double killer.

What motive will they have to cut him so much slack??:shrug:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Oh, good grief! Jami Floyd is predicting "OJ walks."

You know what???I think if this case gets a guilty verdict we should all flood her email box with I told you so's..
LMS:biggrin:

[JBL]

Las Vegas is the wild wild west, they look at guns differently out there. I still can see this going either way, most likely a hung jury. jmo

Actually having a gun in Vegas is probably the worst especially in a casino. Granted technically they weren't IN the casino but they take it very seriously.

Unfortunately I can see it going either of the three ways not guilty, guilty, hung ONLY because it's OJ. Man off the street guilty hands down.

[AnnInOhio]

Oh, good grief! Jami Floyd is predicting "OJ walks."

And I'm sure the college where she got her Law Degree is flinching at her rationale, which is contrary to law!

[JBL]

And I'm sure the college where she got her Law Degree is flinching at her rationale, which is contrary to law!

The College of:

Let my people Go o o o o o o !

[Ang Disaster]

Anyone else's CNN feed just stop for no reason? And what is up with the live link constantly vanishing on the main cnn.com/crime page? :rolleyes:

[vonna]

This witness is succinct and giving us the straight story, (I almost wrote a straight shooter, no pun intended.) After Riccio and Ehrlich, it is such a relief!!! Been taking copious notes but cann't post or I'd be banned! On the bs-o-meter this guy isn't imo -- and OJ can't unring this bell (as Loni just said.)

He's coming across as a credible witness through his fractured English.

[AnnInOhio]

Anyone else's CNN feed just stop for no reason? And what is up with the live link constantly vanishing on the main cnn.com/crime page? :rolleyes:

YES! I went to

http://www.ktla.com/livevideo_channelb

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Anyone else's CNN feed just stop for no reason? And what is up with the live link constantly vanishing on the main cnn.com/crime page? :rolleyes:

This feed is working great!!


http://www.thelegaledge.com/index.php?livecover

LMS

[JBL]

Anyone else's CNN feed just stop for no reason? And what is up with the live link constantly vanishing on the main cnn.com/crime page? :rolleyes:
:shrug:

http://www.ktla.com/livevideo_channelb

[Ang Disaster]

YES! I went to

http://www.ktla.com/livevideo_channelb

As much as I would love to watch on that link, KTLA seems to have other plans. It's always choppy/re-buffering/freezing, but thank you. :seeya:

[Ang Disaster]

This feed is working great!!


http://www.thelegaledge.com/index.php?livecover

LMS

I will try that one. Thank you.
The CNN feed wouldn't be the CNN feed it if didn't drop the ball multiple times per day.

ETA: Why in the world is link for the live feed on cnn.com/crime ALWAYS disappearing? I don't understand why they do this all the time.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I will try that one. Thank you.
The CNN feed wouldn't be the CNN feed it if didn't drop the ball multiple times per day.

ETA: Why in the world is link for the live feed on cnn.com/crime ALWAYS disappearing? I don't understand why they do this all the time.

It likely gets bumped because of politics and the state of the economy...LOL

LMS:lol:

[AnnInOhio]

As much as I would love to watch on that link, KTLA seems to have other plans. It's always choppy/re-buffering/freezing, but thank you. :seeya:


Me too, but it seems to work for many. I've gone with Linda to The Legal Edge site

[kellabeck]

You know what???I think if this case gets a guilty verdict we should all flood her email box with I told you so's..
LMS:biggrin:

I have to laugh that Riccio said whatever she predicted he was going to bet the oppo!!!

Wonder what odds Vegas is giving for conviction??

[Ang Disaster]

It likely gets bumped because of politics and the state of the economy...LOL

LMS:lol:

ATM "Hurricane like recovery briefing" is on the main page.
Thanks again CNN. :rolleyes:

[cherylt]

Hey All!

Who is this lawyer questioning Alexander? He is a toned down (but not by much) of bryson.... :) (he reps Stewart too?)

[Details]

Oh, good grief! Jami Floyd is predicting "OJ walks."She predicts everyone walks. I think it might be in her contract. I can respect someone talking about the defense side, taking that side - but with some level of reality and integrity - not stupid excuses that blame society and everyone but the thug for their own actions. I don't watch her show - every person watching, even on mute, adds to the income used to pay her to be on the air.

But - remember - she's nearly always wrong.

[bearwds]

I have to laugh that Riccio said whatever she predicted he was going to bet the oppo!!!

Wonder what odds Vegas is giving for conviction??
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Hi kellabeck...

I wonder about that as well. Maybe someone can access that and Post info here.

.....been on phone for last 45 minutes to HMO ...bleck

Think Stewart's lawyer is such a refreshing change....


bearwds

[AnnInOhio]

Is that OJ's sister in the courtroom, come to give Alexander the "hairy eyeball" about the message he mentioned she allegedly brought him? :no:

[JONOTWO]

Earlier Jami waxed eloquently ''I would never want Yale to cross-examine me, no way, no how!! Hs anyone beside me noticed her
recent even more grotesque facial expressions as she spews her not guilty gibberish?

[bearwds]

Is that OJ's sister in the courtroom, come to give Alexander the "hairy eyeball" about the message he mentioned she allegedly brought him? :no:
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Love the expression "hairy eyeball". Should be an icon that can be used here....lol Clarify...none of the Posters here.

Yale on duty........ Wonder if he will dwell much on Alexander being stoned today...oops, already is. Nice Bible.


bearwds

[llylabrat]

Earlier Jami waxed eloquently ''I would never want Yale to cross-examine me, no way, no how!! Hs anyone beside me noticed her
recent even more grotesque facial expressions as she spews her not guilty gibberish?


From all I've heard, all the TruTV anchors LOVE Yale. I think Jamie was complimenting him.

In the courtroom, there is a lot of attitude today.

[Constance]

Earlier Jami waxed eloquently ''I would never want Yale to cross-examine me, no way, no how!! Hs anyone beside me noticed her
recent even more grotesque facial expressions as she spews her not guilty gibberish?

I stopped watching her at exactly 9:25 a.m. (EST) on Monday (when they had the four-panel thingie). Her voice, and this time her grimaces or whatever they were, permanently turned me away from EVER watching her again. Bad enough she's on between 11:00-1:00, but this was waaaay too early, and not even her time slot. If she's on, I turn it off. Period.

The banality of Marta's comments is next on my list. Had to turn HER off last night.

So I guess JF's faces were not my imagination, JoNotWo.

[bearwds]

Earlier Jami waxed eloquently ''I would never want Yale to cross-examine me, no way, no how!! Hs anyone beside me noticed her
recent even more grotesque facial expressions as she spews her not guilty gibberish?
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At least she has her hair plastered off her face. The bangs were NOT working for her, and very distracting. Jamie is on TRU for the same reason Bill O'Riley is on FOX. Ratings.

Yale would argue over whether his toast was brown enough.


bearwds

[llylabrat]

Judge GLass seems to be more in control today. Do I have that right?

[bearwds]

Judge GLass seems to be more in control today. Do I have that right?
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With Yale browbeating Alexander, won't last long.:tongue:


bearwds

[JBL]

I YI YI Hallelujah!

[llylabrat]

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With Yale browbeating Alexander, won't last long.:tongue:


bearwds

And I don't think the jury is going to side with Galanter and his browbeating. He is twisting Alexanders words.

[JBL]

And I don't think the jury is going to side with Galanter and his browbeating. He is twisting Alexanders words.


Classic Yale. My J.R. Ewing of the legal community.

[bearwds]

I YI YI Hallelujah!
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You ok JBL...??


bearwds

[AnnInOhio]

I YI YI Hallelujah!

I sincerely hope Arnelle Simpson learns something from all of this and plans some other form of entertainment for her dad and guests at the next wedding she plans. (Hint: Arnelle, keep your dad away from the booze.) It's nice to have a dad with contacts, unless his contacts are like this group.

[bearwds]

Yale ISN'T browbeating. Alexander's own words are doing him in. When in doubt, fall on the Bible. Prayers and revelations. Give me a break. barf
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Agree SuziQ. Yale's interrogative examination comes across as abrasive no matter who is on the stand.

Please call the janitor to clean the barf up....har

Scotto threw Alexander under the ol' bus.


bearwds

[JBL]

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You ok JBL...??


bearwds

Hey whatever it takes for some people to come to terms. God Bless him. :patriot:

[Details]

Yale ISN'T browbeating. Alexander's own words are doing him in. When in doubt, fall on the Bible. Prayers and revelations. Give me a break. barfAlexander's a typical thug - fall back on the bible and such for image when caught out - but Yale is browbeating him, telling a story rather than asking a question, talking over the witnesses answers, trying to rush him and pressure him so he'll just say Yes to whatever Yale is asking without thinking about it. A typical attorney trick - prosecution and defense - rattle the witness so they'll give your answer.

[AnnInOhio]

Next wedding? I didn't know that Arnell was ever married.

Arnelle Simpson was the wedding planner for the Scotto wedding where all of these yahoos were invited guests.

[bearwds]

Hey whatever it takes for some people to come to terms. God Bless him. :patriot:
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Must has been The Book of Revelations. Redemption and such. Especially when he was facing felony time in jail. No "escort service" or real estate license. Maybe OJ could have given him a job after he was released from slammer. ....oops, now I am talking like the TV show "The Untouchables".....har


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

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Agree SuziQ. Yale's interrogative examination comes across as abrasive no matter who is on the stand.

Please call the janitor to clean the barf up....har

Scotto threw Alexander under the ol' bus.


bearwds

OMG..Maybe someone should hose down Yale..he just may have a stroke..I think Judge Glass better reign him in or this is going to be a slugfest!!

I dont mind the sarcasm so much..but I dont like is him testifying..and putting words into his mouth (Walter). That whats getting him in trouble with his examination..

LMS

[AnnInOhio]

So, they'll be back from lunch around 1:15 Las Vegas time, 4:15 Eastern. I've got to get some work done!!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Oh, ok. Thanks, guys.

BTW - Arnell must be close to forty. Does anyone know what she does for a living? (Besides planning weddings - lol)

Not sure how Arnell has survived in the past decade..other than being supported by poppa dearest..LOL..

There is one witness I wish could be called..and that is OJ's sister..Prosecution could supoena her as a hostile witness..She is germaine to all this as she was involved with OJ's stuff back from 1997 thru to today...her voice and presence on these tapes is also there..Even if she she pleads the 5th..that would suffice in my books!!

LMS:D

[bearwds]

Oh, ok. Thanks, guys.

BTW - Arnell must be close to forty. Does anyone know what she does for a living? (Besides planning weddings - lol)
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Maybe she should be writing a book.


I'd buy it.

(of course I bought most ever book relating to the '94 trial..best was Bugalosi)

If she told the truth about how it was growing up with "The Juice", I think it would be quite interesting.


bearwds

[AnnInOhio]

Not sure how Arnell has survived in the past decade..other than being supported by poppa dearest..LOL..

There is one witness I wish could be called..and that is OJ's sister..Prosecution could supoena her as a hostile witness..She is germaine to all this as she was involved with OJ's stuff back from 1997 thru to today...her voice and presence on these tapes is also there..Even if she she pleads the 5th..that would suffice in my books!!

LMS:D
Plus she had some message to Alexander after the fact.

[Kara]

Oh, good grief! Jami Floyd is predicting "OJ walks."She also predicted this would never come to trial.

Yes, I'm behind as usual. :seeya:

[CamV]

I like how when Galantar objects, he tells the prosecutor how he should have asked the question and tells the judge what she should say. (sarcasm!) I think that is one of the reasons why Judge Glass is getting upset much of the time.

[llylabrat]

OMG..Maybe someone should hose down Yale..he just may have a stroke..I think Judge Glass better reign him in or this is going to be a slugfest!!

I dont mind the sarcasm so much..but I dont like is him testifying..and putting words into his mouth (Walter). That whats getting him in trouble with his examination..

LMS


I wish Judge Glass would reign him in, but she doesn't seem to be able to. Lonnie, who is a lawyer, was saying how inappropriate it is for Yale to be setting ground rules & taking charge of the courtroom. If Judge Glass isn't going to control her courtroom, I can't expect Yale to behave.

Also I think Yale was extra heated today because Alexander did a lot of damage to OJ's defense.

[5swab5]

You mean Jamie "white folks - black folks" Floyd?

Someone needs to reign her in.

imo

I can't believe that her blatant racism continues to go unchecked!

MOO

Swabby

[cherylt]

Oh, good grief! Jami Floyd is predicting "OJ walks."


She ALSO predicted this case would never make it trial!! :lol:

[bearwds]

Sorry for going O/T - but it is the lunch break. lol.

Has anyone ever seen Arnell linked with a man? I mean, has she ever had a boyfriend? I would think that the media would report this.

Just curious. Don't bash me.

imo
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NO BASH ZONE

...lol Don't know what partners she had, if any. I would be worried about the fact that a lot of women seek out mates that are like their fathers.


bearwds

[cherylt]

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NO BASH ZONE

...lol Don't know what partners she had, if any. I would be worried about the fact that a lot of women seek out mates that are like their fathers.


bearwds

Hey Bearwds!

totally - different topic from above: Last Night, Cook's testimony was going to come in for a limited purpose. What happened this morning (I haven't been able to catch up) that his testimony was disallowed?
Thanks!

[AnnInOhio]

Really? Where was she?

Is this Carmelita or Shirley?


Maybe the jury will ask Alexander if neither attorney does! OJ said the sister present at the pool conversation was the same one who was at Rockingham when the memorabilia was removed. She spoke on tape about knowing about her mother's storage - you can recognize her voice because Riccio said the sister was the woman who shared her BLT sandwich with him.

[spydernweb2006]

Interesting lil piece o trivia I learned yesterday about this case that I didnt get a chance to post.

Ehrlich's earlier drug conviction was prosecuted by NANCY GRACE!

This was told by Lisa Bloom and Jean C on Tru Tv yesterday am when Lisa's mom Gloria Allred was on.

I thought that was a interesting lil fact but am sick and didnt get a chance to post it.

Just a lil current OJ trivia!

Hugs,

Spyder

[bearwds]

Hey Bearwds!

totally - different topic from above: Last Night, Cook's testimony was going to come in for a limited purpose. What happened this morning (I haven't been able to catch up) that his testimony was disallowed?
Thanks!
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Hiya cherylt..!!

Disallowed and will not be coming in.

That's too bad because I thought at least the chain of custody and court orders would be introduced.

Would explain the robbery to avoid confiscation. Not talking about relatively innocuously photos of family but items like the Heisman trophy that was worth many thousands of dollars.

Plus...he wanted to sitck it to Fred.


bearwds

[cherylt]

The judge decided against it. I imagine the risk of a mistrial wouldn't be worth the limited info they were looking for from him.

Ahh, I guess I can understand that. Not worth the mistrial; the jurors already know about the judgement, that testimony would have just enforced that fact.

Thanks!!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Really? Where was she?

Is this Carmelita or Shirley?

I dont know which one..but sure all the other parties to this do..I never made my life mission to know any more about OJ and his family tree after the civil trial..However..since his sister was at both (all)encounters..she seems to be up to her eyeballs in all that has transpired before, during and after..thats enough for me..

LMS:eek:

[bearwds]

Maybe the jury will ask Alexander if neither attorney does! OJ said the sister present at the pool conversation was the same one who was at Rockingham when the memorabilia was removed. She spoke on tape about knowing about her mother's storage - you can recognize her voice because Riccio said the sister was the woman who shared her BLT sandwich with him.
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Hey Ann....

Was that her voice I heard on the recording made at the pool ??

She was the voice ordering a bloody mary, if I heard correctly.


bearwds

[legalmania]

She ALSO predicted this case would never make it trial!! :lol:

Hey cherylt what is going on. Been up to my eyeballs in boxes. How does one accumulate so much? My roommate's relative was a published author and a historian. We found stuff from Edgar Allan Poe The Raven in his handwriting the paper is old, now I have got to try to authenticate it, also found some things from Glen Curtis, know that's authentic because he was my roommates relative, also found stuff from Longfellow that is also authentic, found an article that it was given to my roommate's relative by Longfellow's grandson Dana. Do you think Fromong would be interested in buying some of this? It's not stolen.

[JBL]

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NO BASH ZONE

...lol Don't know what partners she had, if any. I would be worried about the fact that a lot of women seek out mates that are like their fathers.


bearwds

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[bearwds]

Hi bearwds:

How's life in the woods? I bet fall is beautiful up there. Nice to see you.
:seeya:
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Hiya WudScoobyDo....

Life in woods is excellent. No fall here though. Indian summer with temps in low 90's. Enough to ripen the last of tomatoes, I hope.

OK...Yale has focused on the deal Alexander made for testimony. Will he go back to that after lunch ?? hammer it in....


bearwds

[JBL]

I dont know which one..but sure all the other parties to this do..I never made my life mission to know any more about OJ and his family tree after the civil trial..However..since his sister was at both (all)encounters..she seems to be up to her eyeballs in all that has transpired before, during and after..thats enough for me..

LMS:eek:

I know more about OJ then I ever wanted.

That porn vid was way to much info for me!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

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Hey Ann....

Was that her voice I heard on the recording made at the pool ??

She was the voice ordering a bloody mary, if I heard correctly.


bearwds

yepers..she was identified by Riccio in the hotel room, by the pool and Walter identified her having a message for him..and also when Gilbert testifies..he can identify her as an assistance to "Steal" Rockingham stuff..I only wish they could force to testify..Geesh..

LMShammer

[RGG]

I can't resist - I have some commandments on stone, can I find a buyer for them? (they're authentic, I swear to God) Riccio maybe?:lol:

Now, back to Mr. Alexander. Did someone say he was not really in real estate, instead, he was a P&mp?

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I know more about OJ then I ever wanted.

That porn vid was way to much info for me!

LOL..Just goes to show you how people will sel their soul to the devil to make a buck..hammer..Go figure huh?

LMS

[cherylt]

[QUOTE=bearwds;12178383]****************************

Hiya cherylt..!!

Disallowed and will not be coming in.

That's too bad because I thought at least the chain of custody and court orders would be introduced.

Would explain the robbery to avoid confiscation. Not talking about relatively innocuously photos of family but items like the Heisman trophy that was worth many thousands of dollars.

Plus...he wanted to sitck it to Fred.


Absolutely - he was quoted a few years ago as saying, he would rather throw valuable things away rather than give the Goldman's one dime. (well, that's a paraphrase). Anyway, just heard on Lis Bloom's show (yes, I am behind) that majority opinion (minus JF, of course) is all were at Rockingham after the civil suit to ship his stuff off to various warehouses. Mike Gilbert was in charge of some of the load(s). So, if MG stole it, it was while on the way to the warehouse to be hidden anyway. That's why OJ never called the police to report anything stolen. MG (for whatever his testimony is worth, we don't know yet, supposedly will testify to the same thing)

And I know others disagree with the above but even Fromong on the tape can be heard saying "I helped that OJ set up off shore accounts. I helped him hide things. I helped that guy, I stood up for him at his
1st trial...."

[AnnInOhio]

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Hey Ann....

Was that her voice I heard on the recording made at the pool ??

She was the voice ordering a bloody mary, if I heard correctly.


bearwds

Yep, that's the one. Getting sloshed with her bro?

[bearwds]

Hey cherylt what is going on. Been up to my eyeballs in boxes. How does one accumulate so much? My roommate's relative was a published author and a historian. We found stuff from Edgar Allan Poe The Raven in his handwriting the paper is old, now I have got to try to authenticate it, also found some things from Glen Curtis, know that's authentic because he was my roommates relative, also found stuff from Longfellow that is also authentic, found an article that it was given to my roommate's relative by Longfellow's grandson Dana. Do you think Fromong would be interested in buying some of this? It's not stolen.
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I think Fromong or Riccio would trade an old football for them. Beardsly would think he saw Poe or Longfellow {srimshot}.

Sounds like valuable and fun items you have. Might buy you that house you just moved into.


bearwds

[cherylt]

Hey cherylt what is going on. Been up to my eyeballs in boxes. How does one accumulate so much? My roommate's relative was a published author and a historian. We found stuff from Edgar Allan Poe The Raven in his handwriting the paper is old, now I have got to try to authenticate it, also found some things from Glen Curtis, know that's authentic because he was my roommates relative, also found stuff from Longfellow that is also authentic, found an article that it was given to my roommate's relative by Longfellow's grandson Dana. Do you think Fromong would be interested in buying some of this? It's not stolen.

Hey LM! Wow, you founds LOTS of great stuff. If Fromong isn't interested, perhaps Riccio is or even Beardsley..... :)

[Details]

I think even without it being admitted, it'll become pretty obvious to the jurors, if it isn't already - they know there was a turn over order, they know that Fromong and others talk about stuff being hidden, and they know that the stuff in the room was worth some pretty big bucks. Even without someone to spell it out, the picture is obvious.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

[QUOTE=bearwds;12178383]****************************

Hiya cherylt..!!

Disallowed and will not be coming in.

That's too bad because I thought at least the chain of custody and court orders would be introduced.

Would explain the robbery to avoid confiscation. Not talking about relatively innocuously photos of family but items like the Heisman trophy that was worth many thousands of dollars.

Plus...he wanted to sitck it to Fred.


Absolutely - he was quoted a few years ago as saying, he would rather throw valuable things away rather than give the Goldman's one dime. (well, that's a paraphrase). Anyway, just heard on Lis Bloom's show (yes, I am behind) that majority opinion (minus JF, of course) is all were at Rockingham after the civil suit to ship his stuff off to various warehouses. Mike Gilbert was in charge of some of the load(s). So, if MG stole it, it was while on the way to the warehouse to be hidden anyway. That's why OJ never called the police to report anything stolen. MG (for whatever his testimony is worth, we don't know yet, supposedly will testify to the same thing)

And I know others disagree with the above but even Fromong on the tape can be heard saying "I helped that OJ set up off shore accounts. I helped him hide things. I helped that guy, I stood up for him at his
1st trial...."

Exactly..OJ solicited so many to help him hide assets..and that included his sister..therefore no police report..OJ's whole life post Civil Judgement is to hide all..he even stated he wuld not work as that would be seized..so since that judgement he has availed "Good Will" from whoever would give it to him..a true "Village of Idiots"..and that includes Gilbert, Fromong, his lawyers and family members..then the groupies who want to bask in OJ's infamy..Man oh man there sure are alot of self absorbed people who attach themselves to this loser (OJ)..and Education doesnt seem to matter!!

LMS:cuss:

[legalmania]

[QUOTE=bears;12178383]****************************

Hiya cheryl..!!

Disallowed and will not be coming in.

That's too bad because I thought at least the chain of custody and court orders would be introduced.

Would explain the robbery to avoid confiscation. Not talking about relatively innocuously photos of family but items like the Heisman trophy that was worth many thousands of dollars.

Plus...he wanted to stick it to Fred.


Absolutely - he was quoted a few years ago as saying, he would rather throw valuable things away rather than give the Goldman's one dime. (well, that's a paraphrase). Anyway, just heard on Lisa Bloom's show (yes, I am behind) that majority opinion (minus JF, of course) is all were at Rockingham after the civil suit to ship his stuff off to various warehouses. Mike Gilbert was in charge of some of the load(s). So, if MG stole it, it was while on the way to the warehouse to be hidden anyway. That's why OJ never called the police to report anything stolen. MG (for whatever his testimony is worth, we don't know yet, supposedly will testify to the same thing)

And I know others disagree with the above but even Fromong on the tape can be heard saying "I helped that OJ set up off shore accounts. I helped him hide things. I helped that guy, I stood up for him at his
1st trial...."

The Goldman's are not the only ones entitled to the judgement the Browns are also entitled, they also have an interest in this lawsuit. What about this book If I did it , didn't it make any money?

[AnnInOhio]

Absolutely - he was quoted a few years ago as saying, he would rather throw valuable things away rather than give the Goldman's one dime. (well, that's a paraphrase). Anyway, just heard on Lis Bloom's show (yes, I am behind) that majority opinion (minus JF, of course) is all were at Rockingham after the civil suit to ship his stuff off to various warehouses. Mike Gilbert was in charge of some of the load(s). So, if MG stole it, it was while on the way to the warehouse to be hidden anyway. That's why OJ never called the police to report anything stolen. MG (for whatever his testimony is worth, we don't know yet, supposedly will testify to the same thing)

And I know others disagree with the above but even Fromong on the tape can be heard saying "I helped that OJ set up off shore accounts. I helped him hide things. I helped that guy, I stood up for him at his
1st trial...."[/QUOTE]

Actually, OJ says Mike stole it on the way from the warehouse to OJ after OJ moved to Florida. It's on the tapes. Mike dropped off some stuff but not everything in the truck.

Gilbert will probably testify that stuff was OK once it got safely out of California and into Florida, and that the stuff he "kept" was given to him as a form of barter in payment for money OJ owed him. Gilbert will probably also say that he in turn later bartered it to Fromong. Just a guess, but I've read that before this case ever started.

[5swab5]

Yes. I completely agree. I've even seen her as a guest on other shows with her "black folks/white folks" opinions.

And I certainly don't tune in to "In Session" to hear this BS.

imo

Thankfully, I have been spared hearing her spew elsewhere.

Can't even imagine the complaints, if the racism were reversed. I know that CTV never listened, does IS have a forum for such discussions?

Sorry for the OT guys,

My apologies.

Swabby

[Lyndawitha"Y]

[QUOTE=cheryl;12178497]

The Goldman's are not the only ones entitled to the judgement the Browns are also entitled, they also have an interest in this lawsuit. What about this book If I did it , didn't it make any money?

I believe the proceeds from the book (at least some of it) goes to some group who assist people in seeking civil judgements..who cant afford it..as this case..the Goldmans had support..but so many give up because they cant afford to pursuit judgements..Lawyers dont always do things out of the goodness of their hearts..DAHHH

I heard this from an interview of the Fred and Kim Goldman by Lisa Bloom .

LMS:)

[cherylt]

[QUOTE=cherylt;12178497]

Exactly..OJ solicited so many to help him hide assets..and that included his sister..therefore no police report..OJ's whole life post Civil Judgement is to hide all..he even stated he wuld not work as that would be seized..so since that judgement he has availed "Good Will" from whoever would give it to him..a true "Village of Idiots"..and that includes Gilbert, Fromong, his lawyers and family members..then the groupies who want to bask in OJ's infamy..Man oh man there sure are alot of self absorbed people who attach themselves to this loser (OJ)..and Education doesnt seem to matter!!

LMS:cuss:

Lynda,
Right - & he even moved to the east coast, Florida, because FL's law is that you can not take someone's home to satisfy a judgement.
Education? Ha! :) Most (not all) are "street people".

[legalmania]

Hey LM! Wow, you founds LOTS of great stuff. If Fromong isn't interested, perhaps Riccio is or even Beardsley..... :)

I know this is off topic but I just found pictures of Glenn Curtis flight in the June Bug dated July 08. It shows him in the plane and then other pictures of the flight it was financed by Alexander G. Bell. Curtis also built motorcycles.

[JBL]

Ok Which one of you mugs is emailing Yale?

:lol:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I think we are live again..

http://www.thelegaledge.com/index.php?livecover

LMS:)

[legalmania]

[QUOTE=legalmania;12178535]

I believe the proceeds from the book (at least some of it) goes to some group who assist people in seeking civil judgements..who cant afford it..as this case..the Goldmans had support..but so many give up because they cant afford to pursuit judgements..Lawyers dont always do things out of the goodness of their hearts..DAHHH

I heard this from an interview of the Fred and Kim Goldman by Lisa Bloom .

LMS:)

You have to refile every ten years or the judgement is not valid.

[5swab5]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"Y;12178534]

Lynda,
Right - & he even moved to the east coast, Florida, because FL's law is that you can not take someone's home to satisfy a judgement.
Education? Ha! :) Most (not all) are "street people".

It's called the "Homestead Act", Florida has the most comprehensive in the Country. No surprise that OJ moved there.

MOO

Swabby

[Lqqkout]

I forgot he is a ****, Bible reading ****, excuse me,

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=AnnInOhio

Actually, OJ says Mike stole it on the way from the warehouse to OJ after OJ moved to Florida. It's on the tapes. Mike dropped off some stuff but not everything in the truck....SNIP
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Do you know if this is where the storage unit in Hanford, California came in ??

In my understanding, this was a seperate and distinct storage unit than Grandma Simpson's?

Help..??


bearwds

[cherylt]

Ok Which one of you mugs is emailing Yale?

:lol:



:lol: All of us - we must have been doing it in our sleep. ....:cool:

[Lqqkout]

I forgot he is a ****, Bible reading ****, excuse me,
not allowed to say p..i..m..p??? yikes!!

[legalmania]

What did he just say he thanked Court TV for? It wasn't the Bible was it?;)

I am having problems with my sound here...gotta play with it and see if I can get it right..

I wonder if anyone told him it's not Court Tv anymore it's Tru Tv In Session.

[Fallen Angel]

OMG she just went OFF :lol:

[JBL]

WHOAAAAAAA!

YALE SHUT UP!
JUDGE GLASS ---> :punch: <----YALE

[Lqqkout]

ok, she has lost it !!!!!!

[cherylt]

I forgot he is a ****, Bible reading ****, excuse me,

Nope, he WAS a p i m p ; now he is a law abiding realtor who is worrying about his Real Estate license. ;)

[Fallen Angel]

and bring in whats his name and we'll take care of the bible lol

[Fallen Angel]

ok, she has lost it !!!!!!

thats putting it MILDLY lol

[JBL]

the only other judge that ive seen act worse than her is that guy that was the judge for the anna nicole hearing. larry something wasnt it?

Worse? Yale had that coming. I say about time.

[cherylt]

They finally took the bible away from him! (LOL)

Can anyone tell me what the exact nature was of this EXTENDED sidebar??

[Lqqkout]

Nope, he WAS a p i m p ; now he is a law abiding realtor who is worrying about his Real Estate license. ;)

I believe he and his wife still run an escort service...

[cherylt]

Worse? Yale had that coming. I say about time.

I agree. Even then he had the nerve to try to say something else!
hammer

Oh Geez, another sidebar after a LONG one! This trial will take YEARS at this rate!!

[Fallen Angel]

the only other judge that ive seen act worse than her is that guy that was the judge for the anna nicole hearing. larry something wasnt it?

Fidler........wow he was CRAZY imo

[JBL]

no wait. i should have explained. i agree yale had that coming! i dont have any problem with her rulings at all. just her histrionics is what is killing me. nothing else.

I kinda thought that. I was laughing so hard I wasn't even sure what I'd typed.

Glass ----> :punch: <---- Yale

Yale ----> :hammer: <----- Glass

[Details]

They took away Alexander's prop bible. I never trust anyone who uses it as a prop - if he believed he wouldn't need it to read, and no one else gets a book to entertain them.

Yale's attempts to bring Alexander's other job into the questioning vehemently denied by the judge - after review, Alexander's mention of his realty job was in answer to questions of his motivation to take the deal, so as not to have something on his record that would kill that job - so his failure to mention his (legal) brothel is not an omission nor something that impeaches his honesty or testimony from the prelim. - my interpretation anyway.

[cherylt]

Excuse the caps but I copied and pasted this info:

O.J.'S SISTER CARMELITA IS THE WOMAN SITTING BEHIND O.J. WEARING THE PINK BLOUSE AND GLASSES. HIS SISTER SHIRLEY IS IN TOWN BUT BECAUSE SHE IS EXPECTED TO BE A WITNESS SHE IS EXCLUDED FROM THE COURTROOM

[Fallen Angel]

noooooooo! not judge fidler! he did the spector trial and was awesome IMO. very professional.

this other guy was down in florida i think for the anna nicole hearing. the one that cried on the bench.

ohhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my bad. Judge Larry Seidlin SORRY wow i must have had a HUGE brain melt down. i loved Fidler.

[cherylt]

noooooooo! not judge fidler! he did the spector trial and was awesome IMO. very professional.

this other guy was down in florida i think for the anna nicole hearing. the one that cried on the bench.

That was LARRY SIDLER or Seidlen (sp)?

[Details]

the only other judge that ive seen act worse than her is that guy that was the judge for the anna nicole hearing. larry something wasnt it?I don't see what choice she has - Yale will not shut up, last night showed these attorneys will go on for hours, repeating the same point over and over again, if allowed. She tried to do this politely and quietly, Yale is not responding to that, he just keeps talking and talks over everyone.

I don't see any choice.

[Details]

so he really is still a p i m p then, haha omg. and he's carrying a bible?Runs an escort service, I guess?. I don't know if I'd call that a p i m p - doesn't that word have connotations of illegal, as well as a stronger degree of control than a manager of an escort service?

[AnnInOhio]

[QUOTE=AnnInOhio

Actually, OJ says Mike stole it on the way from the warehouse to OJ after OJ moved to Florida. It's on the tapes. Mike dropped off some stuff but not everything in the truck....SNIP
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Do you know if this is where the storage unit in Hanford, California came in ??

In my understanding, this was a seperate and distinct storage unit than Grandma Simpson's?

Help..??


bearwds

I only heard it referred to as being in northern California. Where is Hanford?

[RGG]

They finally took the bible away from him! (LOL)

Can anyone tell me what the exact nature was of this EXTENDED sidebar??

Me too cherylt - I didn't hear anything - ooops - but here we go again.

I'm so over discussing a Day vs 12 hours - geewhiz.:shrug:

[Details]

The judge has to tell Yale not to answer for the witness. You ask the questions, he answers.

[cherylt]

YALE - please move on to relevant testimony at the time of the incident! This is ridiculous and he is just dragging it out as long as possible. I wish the Judge would tell him to MOVE ON!

[AnnInOhio]

Excuse the caps but I copied and pasted this info:

O.J.'S SISTER CARMELITA IS THE WOMAN SITTING BEHIND O.J. WEARING THE PINK BLOUSE AND GLASSES. HIS SISTER SHIRLEY IS IN TOWN BUT BECAUSE SHE IS EXPECTED TO BE A WITNESS SHE IS EXCLUDED FROM THE COURTROOM

Ha Ha! I KNEW IT!
Now, has she been giving Alexander the hairy eyeball?? :mad:
Or was she sipping a Bloody Mary during lunch?

[Fallen Angel]

Yale is about to have a stroke lol

[AnnInOhio]

The judge has to tell Yale not to answer for the witness. You ask the questions, he answers.

I half expect Yale to stomp his feet and say "No fair, Judge! He won't say the answer I want him to, even when I tell him what to say!"

[cherylt]

Yale is about to have a stroke lol

LOL - He is making this way too adversarial. If he does have a stroke, it will be his own fault. He might end up giving us all strokes with our frustration level. This trial is mostly sidebars!!!

[september]

Judge Glass had better get control of Yale, he is running all over her.
IMO

September

[Fallen Angel]

LOL - He is making this way too adversarial. If he does have a stroke, it will be his own fault. He might end up giving us all strokes with our frustration level. This trial is mostly sidebars!!!

ITA

Judge finally said NO more sidebars, i bet they will have a dozen more today though lol

[AnnInOhio]

Owens sure doesn't want that "other income" coming in does he???:lol:

Why should it? Just like the interrogatories that didn't come in, the prejudicial value outweighs any probative value.

[Details]

Me too cherylt - I didn't hear anything - ooops - but here we go again.

I'm so over discussing a Day vs 12 hours - geewhiz.:shrug:The extended sidebar, if you're talking about that thing right after lunch break, was about Yale trying to get the judge to let him say Alexander is a p i m p.

His argument was that Alexander talked about his job in another hearing, and mentioned his realty job, and that this is a lie, since his main income is from the escort business, and thus it's a valid point of discussion as a method of impeaching testimony.

The counter to that was that the discussion of the realty job was Alexander's motivation for pleading, not Alexander answering some question about his entire income. Since that indeed was the context of the questions and answers about the realty job, it was ruled that this was not something admissible nor relevant.


After a great deal of arguing, judge ruled it was not relevant, Yale wouldn't sit down, wanted to reargue the point over and over again. And just now he tried to introduce it again by trying to get the witness to list all of his sources of income - was smacked down again - not relevant. Yale really wants it in, to slime this witness.

[Fallen Angel]

Judge Glass had better get control of Yale, he is running all over her.
IMO

September

He's making a fool out of himself.

[Details]

Owens sure doesn't want that "other income" coming in does he???:lol:It's irrelevant, prejudicial, and has only one purpose - to appeal to a juror's prejudices and stereotypes.

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=bearwds;12178620]

I only heard it referred to as being in northern California. Where is Hanford?
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A sleepy little town in the Central Valley of California. A place that is WAY out of the mainstream.

Been there several times as it's also a meeting place for bikers to initiate runs and parties.

Hot...dry. About a hundred miles from G'Ma's residence of San Francisco.


bearwds

[legalmania]

That was LARRY SIDLER or Seidlen (sp)?

It's spelled Judge Larry Seidlin I worked down the hall during this mess.

[llylabrat]

Thank goodness the honeymoon is over for Glass over Galanter. She is finally running the courtroom instead of letting him.

[Fallen Angel]

Yale might be the main reason why OJ goes to prison this time lol

[cherylt]

OMG - is Yale actually getting to the day of the incident?

[Details]

Funny witness - asked to read the transcript, too lazy to do so, when caught out, he claims he answered a question merely about if he had access to review it, not if he actually read it, said he thought he'd be OK if he just told the truth.

Which is correct - it's easy to keep the truth straight, lies are what you need refreshing on to keep consistient. But it is a little, childish action and lie to not read it.

[JBL]

ROFL Yales lost. Saying they were at little Buddha before the robbery instead of after heh heh

[hiitsme]

Yale might be the main reason why OJ goes to prison this time lol

I totally agree, this defense is on the defense and in my view will turn off this jury.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"Y;12178568]

You have to refile every ten years or the judgement is not valid.

I know..and they did do just that..LOL

LMS

[llylabrat]

I LOVE it when yale talks to the witnesses about the crimes they were charged with. He is just reminding the jury that the whole bunch of them were facing the same charges.

[cherylt]

??? OJ would rather the Goldman's have the property than Gilbert &/or his men???

I might have to get my ears cleaned...:eek:


ETA: NO questions regarding the incident in the room? With the gun?

[watchu]

The were all OJ's friends... and none of them murdered 2 people..... You lie down with dogs.... you get fleas......

[cherylt]

I LOVE it when yale talks to the witnesses about the crimes they were charged with. He is just reminding the jury that the whole bunch of them were facing the same charges.

Very Good Point! That could have very well backfired on him...

[cherylt]

Next witness may be McClinton or Gilbert.
(breaking news from LegalEdge)

Either way, will be interesting!!

[llylabrat]

What just happened? The bailiff was on screen. Yale asked for the same consideration to be extended to him. What happened?

[JBL]

HAHAHAHA

He doesn't even want Yale to BREATH on him.

[Details]

I LOVE it when yale talks to the witnesses about the crimes they were charged with. He is just reminding the jury that the whole bunch of them were facing the same charges.Yep. OJ isn't charged any differently than the rest of them.


Fireworks - Alexander objects to Yale coming into his personal space and leaning over him. Tells him repeatedly to back off, bailiff or sheriff comes up just in case - and they reset Yale back to the podium. Yale protesting he wants to be able to use the same position as the DA.

[cherylt]

What just happened? The bailiff was on screen. Yale asked for the same consideration to be extended to him. What happened?

Yale was right behind him & WA took exception to that & asked him to BACK OFF! What Yale meant, may mean that he doesn't want Owens approaching WA either...

[JBL]

What just happened? The bailiff was on screen. Yale asked for the same consideration to be extended to him. What happened?

Alexander refused to let Yale on the stand with him hahahaha Says he yells in his ear and he don't like that. Keep your distance hahahaha

[Details]

Alexander refused to let Yale on the stand with him hahahaha Says he yells in his ear and he don't like that. Keep your distance hahahahaYale was closer than DA, and he does tend to yell - and he's in the middle of trying to tear this guy down - not someone he's likely to want in his personal space.

I'd imagine this was deliberate - if he gets Alexander rattled, or even better to push him, he can make him look bad to the jury.

Yay, jury questions? Please?

[llylabrat]

Alexander refused to let Yale on the stand with him hahahaha Says he yells in his ear and he don't like that. Keep your distance hahahaha


:biggrin:hahahahahaha. thanks to all who clued me in.

[Fallen Angel]

I agree with Marta,.........he was a GREAT witness.

[september]

What just happened? The bailiff was on screen. Yale asked for the same consideration to be extended to him. What happened?

Yale was bending over Alexander and given his intimitading stich the witness asks him to back off, at that point Yale starts yelling he's going to do it the same way as Mr. Owens did. The deputy approached and the judge backed Alexander and asked Yale to step back. Yale keeps holllaring that he wants the same professional courtsey as Owens but to no avail.
Score one Alexander.

September

[RGG]

Wow - the baliffs were ready to break that up :eek:

I was on pins and needles just hoping Alexander wouldn't stand up and deck Yale~hammer

[JBL]

Yale was closer than DA, and he does tend to yell - and he's in the middle of trying to tear this guy down - not someone he's likely to want in his personal space.

I'd imagine this was deliberate - if he gets Alexander rattled, or even better to push him, he can make him look bad to the jury.

Yay, jury questions? Please?

NO WAY would I want him in my immediate space LOL. He really turned the tables on Yale. Yale was trying to unravel him. Kudos to Alexander.

:lol:

[Details]

Jury question: Where was the cell phone and lithographs - on bed, took it so they wouldn't call police, box he saw on the way out, had a hand free, took it. Something about sunglasses, but I didn't catch that bit.

Gun - did you check to see if it was loaded and fully functional? - No.


He's all done.

[Details]

Yale was bending over Alexander and given his intimitading stich the witness asks him to back off, at that point Yale starts yelling he's going to do it the same way as Mr. Owens did. The deputy approached and the judge backed Alexander and asked Yale to step back. Yale keeps holllaring that he wants the same professional courtsey as Owens but to no avail.
Score one Alexander.

SeptemberI'm sure he was hoping for Alexander to do something to appear violent to the jury - but in the situation, Yale appeared equal or a little worse than Alexander in terms of slightly violent behavior (yelling, refusing to move back).

It's a common trick - prosecution and defense use it. If the witness gets violent, the jury figures (and rightly so) that they've seen the person's true colors. No luck this time - Alexander definitely wanted him out of his personal space, but "used his words" - no shoving, no nothing.

[Lqqkout]

noooooooo! not judge fidler! he did the spector trial and was awesome IMO. very professional.

this other guy was down in florida i think for the anna nicole hearing. the one that cried on the bench.

This would be a completely different type of trial with Judge Fidler on the bench. This is actually painful to watch her ineptitude. She herself is the catalyst to this chaos, by her childlike behavior. I can't stand to watch her in action.

[Lqqkout]

Next witness may be McClinton or Gilbert.
(breaking news from LegalEdge)

Either way, will be interesting!!


Either one. I can't wait.

[JBL]

Someone better get Yale some decaf.

[JBL]

Grasso doing damage control and CYA for Yale's bad behavior.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

This would be a completely different type of trial with Judge Fidler on the bench. This is actually painful to watch her ineptitude. She herself is the catalyst to this chaos, by her childlike behavior. I can't stand to watch her in action.


Hummmm You are giving Judge Fidler some Kudos??Intersting..now thats a first..LOL

LMS:punch:

[cherylt]

Someone better get Yale some decaf.

LOL - that's why he is actually letting Grasso speak. The change is favorable, for now. Hopefully HE'LL cross the next witness.

[Lqqkout]

Yale was bending over Alexander and given his intimitading stich the witness asks him to back off, at that point Yale starts yelling he's going to do it the same way as Mr. Owens did. The deputy approached and the judge backed Alexander and asked Yale to step back. Yale keeps holllaring that he wants the same professional courtsey as Owens but to no avail.
Score one Alexander.

September

very good and thorough recap !!!!

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=Details.. Something about sunglasses, but I didn't catch that bit.
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The sunglasses were on the floor as he approached the bed. Picked them up because "I was afraid I would step on them".

Liked them and stole 'em.


bearwds

[cherylt]

The defense did not know he had the Bible & NOW they object to it? Why didn't they mention it earlier if it bothered them? My opinion is they didn't notice it until WAY later and then decided they may use it for a mistrial motion...IMO

[llylabrat]

Where's OJ...potty break?

[Lqqkout]

Hummmm You are giving Judge Fidler some Kudos??Intersting..now thats a first..LOL

LMS:punch:

I never criticized Judge Fidler's ability and professionalism. I do feel he was biased.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I never criticized Judge Fidler's ability and professionalism. I do feel he was biased.

Now you just explained the difference..A judge is biased..and yet he is able and professional...Something doesnt ring on tone there..How can a judge be professional and able... yet biased..Oxymoron to me..but that is just my take on your take..Humm??

LMS:confused:

[RGG]

WoW - Judge's buttons were pushed today! I'm glad she told Yale "don't do it again!" The guy is good, but he acts like a thug. No wonder that he gets along with OJ so well. I wonder if Yale "packs heat?" :no:

[cherylt]

OH CRUD! Just as the Judge was telling Yale not to do that again (get in someone's space), I lost my connection. Can someone please let me know how she ended the scolding???

[Lqqkout]

he hasn't been busted for it - that I have seen. Where are they getting this info. Anyone seen anything on that?
I can't blame him for not admitting he is a ****.... it is NOT the same as saying he's not a milkman! That admission would definitely be the end of his real estate license.
His p i m p i n g was testified to in the preliminary hearing. The day he testified his website was taken down.

[bearwds]

I never criticized Judge Fidler's ability and professionalism. I do feel he was biased.
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A respectful request to keep Judge Fidler out of this Thread.



bearwds

[temple]

Does anyone know if and where I can watch a replay of today's proceedings? I need to leave the house and will miss the rest of today's antics...

[JBL]

Where's OJ...potty break?

I think he went back to his hotel to bring "his" Bible copy back to read during next side bar.

[llylabrat]

Does anyone know if and where I can watch a replay of today's proceedings? I need to leave the house and will miss the rest of today's antics...


thelegaledge.com only shows highlights. but they do have a re-cap of the days proceedings which is good.

[JBL]

Come to think of it. He should just go down to the parking lot and look in the back of CJ's Navigator. Maybe there still a box there from the "alleged" robbery at the Palace and someone threw in the Bible from Riccio's room.

:lol:

[AnnInOhio]

Does anyone know if and where I can watch a replay of today's proceedings? I need to leave the house and will miss the rest of today's antics...

Record the online feed. At least on my computer, if I hover at the top right of the "tv" frame (not the Window) a popup comes up that says "download this video". Microsoft Real Player records up to four (4) hours.

[JBL]

Does anyone know if and where I can watch a replay of today's proceedings? I need to leave the house and will miss the rest of today's antics...


Try KTLA I think they have recap vid's I don't think their in the entirety but may have some highlights.

[vonna]

This would be a completely different type of trial with Judge Fidler on the bench. This is actually painful to watch her ineptitude. She herself is the catalyst to this chaos, by her childlike behavior. I can't stand to watch her in action.

I couldn't disagree more. I consider her very professional. She only responds - child-like- to the childish, petulant behavior of the defense attorneys, for the most part. I really enjoy her take-charge attitude.

[Details]

he hasn't been busted for it - that I have seen. Where are they getting this info. Anyone seen anything on that?
I can't blame him for not admitting he is a ****.... it is NOT the same as saying he's not a milkman! That admission would definitely be the end of his real estate license.He's not doing anything illegal. He and his wife run an escort service is the impression I get - or maybe a brothel at a location where that is legal (prostitution is legal in much of Nevada). He's not admitting to any crime when he talks about that, nor would it kill his realty license, since it's not a crime.

[vonna]

He's not doing anything illegal. He and his wife run an escort service is the impression I get - or maybe a brothel at a location where that is legal (prostitution is legal in much of Nevada). He's not admitting to any crime when he talks about that, nor would it kill his realty license, since it's not a crime.

Interesting to know the type of guys with whom OJ hangs out!! Birds of a feather......

[Lqqkout]

I wish there were transcripts or video of the preliminary hearings. I thought Alexander did say his income was derived fron his real estate dealings because that was when his real job was brought up.

[Details]

I couldn't disagree more. I consider her very professional. She only responds - child-like- to the childish, petulant behavior of the defense attorneys, for the most part. I really enjoy her take-charge attitude.She's doing good. She has to yell sometimes because they are trying to talk over her and will not stop. I suppose she could instead have the bailiff remove them - but that would cause trouble for the defendant.

I don't see another choice - Yale does not respond to the reasonable, "objection heard and overruled" a lot of the time.

[Lqqkout]

He's not doing anything illegal. He and his wife run an escort service is the impression I get - or maybe a brothel at a location where that is legal (prostitution is legal in much of Nevada). He's not admitting to any crime when he talks about that, nor would it kill his realty license, since it's not a crime.

He runs an escort service now, but I think his other job was actually in California where it was definitely illegal.

[Details]

Escort services aren't illegal in California. The Yellow Pages has pages and pages of them. Many, if not all, are not very subtle covers for prostitution, which is illegal - but if the managers of the service are not arranging sex for money, it's legal. They purport to provide a private sensual dance, not sex for money, and that is legal.

I had an aquaintance who worked for one once. Interesting stuff. You start out dancing, as contracted, then if you choose, you make your own arrangement with the client for sex for an additional fee paid to you, not the agency. She always had self-image problems, which lead her to that - she tried it, made money, but couldn't stand the way she felt about herself, doing that.

[Details]

This guy so far seems very bland - looking for work, etc. - wonder if he's got any record, what the defense has on him. So far, he seems like a total nobody.


Poodle - he's a random aquaintance of Stewarts, looking for work, called to carry stuff for OJ - at least that's our story so far.

[SusiePMcD]

I couldn't disagree more. I consider her very professional. She only responds - child-like- to the childish, petulant behavior of the defense attorneys, for the most part. I really enjoy her take-charge attitude.


Hi Vonna ...me too.

I am not watching now...but I watched when I was on my "IKE"

vacation.


She seems to be a very good and fair judge to me.

[RGG]

I was doing dishes and missed the beginning of this witness. Who is he?

Charles Cashmore

[cherylt]

Whatever happened to "no speaking" objections? Out the window minutes after it was declared! :shrug:

[Lqqkout]

Escort services aren't illegal in California. The Yellow Pages has pages and pages of them. Many, if not all, are not very subtle covers for prostitution, which is illegal - but if the managers of the service are not arranging sex for money, it's legal. They purport to provide a private sensual dance, not sex for money, and that is legal.

I had an aquaintance who worked for one once. Interesting stuff. You start out dancing, as contracted, then if you choose, you make your own arrangement with the client for sex for an additional fee paid to you, not the agency. She always had self-image problems, which lead her to that - she tried it, made money, but couldn't stand the way she felt about herself, doing that.

I said he runs an escort service NOW but his other job (euphemism for p.i.m.p) was in CA where IT (trying to be nice) was definitely illegal. It was talked about extensively during prelim.

[AnnInOhio]

I said he runs an escort service NOW but his other job (euphemism for p.i.m.p) was in CA where IT (trying to be nice) was definitely illegal. It was talked about extensively during prelim.

Yes it was. And its relevance to the issues in this case was what?

[llylabrat]

One of the highlight captions on The Legal Edge calls Walter Alexander "OJ's most devastating witness."

[Details]

This guy is a pretty good witness too - he's not involved until the last minute, very matter of fact, not much of any motivation for him to lie - he didn't have the gun, he wasn't involved in planning it, etc.


Hysterical listening to the witness and attorney cleaning up the language. "They don't know who they are, do they".

[RGG]

Here's an URL that has each person listed. Lots of pictures - just click on the person and then there are videos/pictures/information etc.

http://www.zimbio.com/Charles+Cashmore

move to the right of the page and then you can click on each person.

Easier for me to see who's-who. I need to put their faces on my desktop and make links to each one. Heck - maybe I need to use powerpoint or Ms Excel. I'm too old to have my tiny brain cells beating themselves against the inside of my skull....LOLhammerhammer

[bearwds]

Cashmore's voice and demeanor remind me of a "made man" from Jersey.

What does he claim to be his occupation ?? ..had to do some chores.


bearwds

[Details]

Cook/Chef, looking for work. Not sure if it was given, but sometimes a DJ, maybe just in the past.

[RGG]

Well "SAVED" means they want to say this doesn't accurately depict where each man was standing - (re:Alexander):shrug:

[Details]

Ok I didnt realize he was local - I thought he lives in CA. If he is not doing anything illegal then why not admit it?
When Yale used the word p-i-m-p I thought he was talking about something illigal. And I didn't see anything about any conviction for that.

The relevance Ann is that Yale wants to show that Alexander is scum and a liar as well.... and therefor the jury should not believe what he says.It's prejudicial, and a way to make the jury weigh the testimony differently, based especially on loaded words like "p i m p".

Prejudicial and irrelevant - two good reasons not to include it. Attorneys aren't allowed to go fishing in your life for everything some juror might not like and judge you on. It'd be the same if you were gay, a defense attorney might try to get you to mention your boyfriend, in hopes there is a prejudiced juror, and refer to you as a sodomite.


Sounds like he may have been doing something illegal, and may have been in CA - I don't know much about that - but it is all irrelevant - it has nothing to do with this case.

[ALL RISE]

but my only outlet, Headline News, isn't showing much....I waited with much anticipation, this a.m., waiting to hear if the good Judge would allow testimony from the Goldman camp.

Pulling teeth and hair hours later, I think the good Judge, however, did certainly make the correct and right decision to keep out testimony from another trial another decision another time and place regardless how all of us want OJ's juice squeeshed. Allowing that spells, to me, a-p-p-e-a-l.

If this court wants a conviction to stick....gotta do it the right way.

[Details]

I don't know what his charges were - I'd expect them to be a little lesser - no conspiracy at least. I'm sure we'll hear about that.