9/23 - Tues Evening/Late night, Day 99

[panokatana]

Ah, maybe that's it. I need a scorecard to keep up with her "conquests".:confused:

I just checked the Docs. Jesse states that his roommate is Rick Oswald.

[jakee]

Ah, maybe that's it. I need a scorecard to keep up with her "conquests".:confused:


This be true. :) I was surprised to hear she supposedly had a miscarriage with some other dude. I did read that correct? Not sure if it is true though. One never knows. IMO

[anyonesguess]

She also pulls weeds in the evening when the protesters are there :shrug:

She's nuts!!!!:biggrin:

The entire family is more toxic than the Love Canal was imo. A keg of dynomite looking for a place to explode, and it finally did.

[Takotna]

Cindy said that Casey didn't want GA to see the cans in the trunk because she was embarrassed. She had planned to return them with a note of apology before he missed them.
That was another Twilight Zone moment for me. I just didn't see Casey caring that much about it. The other weird thing about Cindy's version is that Casey was embarrassed and planned to write an apology, but it seemed that she was returning the cans empty! If she really cared and felt badly about it, wouldn't she return them full?

So, we have 3 Anthony stories about the return of the gas cans and all 3 are different. They are consistent in their inconsistency, those Anthony's.

jmho

Yup - I remember that....
ROFL-sorry- but can anyone truly see Casey writing a note of apology?
Cindy, again, she's so concerned about appearances. She's trying so hard to show Casey in glowing light, Mother of the Year.
Unbelievable.

AllMO:)

[Lostgirl]

There are several here. Bunny Ranch is one of them.


hehe thanks :)

I wasn't sure if it was "Bunny" or "Mustang" :seeya:

[Velouria]

I am not prone to following psychics, but did this ring a bell for anyone who listened to the psychic who appeared on her local fox news channel in another state, maybe michigan? That was the first I had heard of the mechanic, and then now in WW's interview the detective brought it up that it came through another party, a Ryan? that was arrested on 7/26. Interesting.

I remember that interview. Kimmie Rose Zapf I believe was her name, on Fox News Detroit. I think she was privy to some facts about the case, although she claimed otherwise. Thought she was koo :chicken:koo.

[jakee]

I just checked the Docs. Jesse states that his roommate is Rick Oswald.


ooooh. Thanks. :eek:

[panokatana]

it was a text msg about a guy named Rick that she says she had the best sex she's ever had

I'm not sure which link it was... I've been clicking all over kinda random and reading... maybe someone else remembers it and knows which link it's in

Page 20 of Jesse's statement that was released today. I am not sure that this is the Rick she was referring to in her text message, but the only reference to a Rick (other than Uncle Rick) that I noticed.


JMO

[Takotna]

I think you nailed it here. Casey was too dumb to think about the dogs, or any animals trying to dig up a body. AND even if she put it in the sand box, animals would still be able to smell it. Even birds of prey...... So, she did need a shovel to either pick up the body, or replace what the dogs had tried to dig up. HENCE George's big story about digging up a Hibiscuss plant and moving it when Greta interviewed him.

And....Cindy's big story about G working so hard in the yard that he left sweat and blood and THAT"S what the LE dogs "inconsistently alerted" on! - These people have an explanation (or 2, or 3, or 4....) for everything, don't they?

AllMO:)

[WillowInFlight]

Are the text messages posted somewhere now?

No I didn't see those.

[anyonesguess]

I wondered if that money could have been fingerprinted and it would have shown Amy's fingerprints????

I thought about that too, but didn't say anything. I do think it would have helped with accounting though, and Cindy just had to be honest about it imo instead of copping it like her daughter did.

[Rebel Rouzer]

And....Cindy's big story about G working so hard in the yard that he left sweat and blood and THAT"S what the LE dogs "inconsistently alerted" on! - These people have an explanation (or 2, or 3, or 4....) for everything, don't they?

AllMO:)

Yes they do and it's amazing. Never in my life and that is saying a lot. Have i ever seen a family like this. EVER

[Velouria]

I do feel that my "hinky meter" about GA is still; correct to the bone. From his first interview on, I knew he was lying about those gas cans. First we find out about him reporting this "crime" to LE and then we find out he loves to detail Cars, and upholstery. I'll bet it is GA who had common knowledge of chloro in getting out troublesome stains in upholstery of cars. He detailed them, it's his "thing"
Im very troubled. If I lived near them I couldnt look him in the eye. <respectfully snipped>



Dots, I hope you aren't planning to vacation at Disney World any time soon...

[DiamondL'il]

Hi Dori - I was thinking about your post. I think Caylee:rose: was placed in the sandbox with the lid.
Many folks just let their dogs out and don't notice what they are doing - maybe the Anthonys are the 'just-open-the-door' type pet owners? Maybe this is why Casey then put the bundle in the car - perhaps there was a problem with the dogs. Maybe she just needed the shovel to spiffy-up where dogs had disturbed the ground.

AllMO:)

Your post is one of the few that sounds plausible to me, in regards to the shovel! I, like many, can't see PPoF excerting much time or effort where the shovel is involved. Makes sense that she would be dumb enough to borrow it, as the parental units had denied her access to the family shed. She simply wasn't clever enough to improvise with something else AND the neighbor was HOME, so that ruled out simply stealing his;)

[beetlebrow]

Cindy did know, amy had just told her. Cindy's answer was that Amy wouldn't see that money again.

But, despite that, Cindy had no business taking that money at that point in time. It freaked me out when I read that.


And I guess the fact that Cindy told Amy that Casey had been stealing money for years discounts the theory that Casey started acting different/snapped after Caylee accidentally died :rolleyes:

[panokatana]

I am curious to know more about this Brandon "character". It seems he actually had the "power" to provoke actual emotion from Casey! (I am less inclined to believe that an alleged miscarriage some time ago (as was alluded to...with Brandon being involved), would have brought her to tears while at a party...in fact, he seemed to induce a whole gamut of emotions, ranging from tears to being highly "pizzed", if I remember correctly. Wonder what would happen if LE were to arrange for him to pay Casey a surprise visit?

JMO

[Lostgirl]

NG mentioned that she texted someone and said Rick was the best sex she ever had.
(from night before)
she may have read it here in earlier pages.

thanks concernedmom... I was trying to remember which link i read about that on cause I've been clicking here there and everywhere, reading, cooking dinner, and doing laundry... so i kinda lost track

yes you're right... that particular one was in reference to NG talking about the text message

thanks for reminding me... I was going nuts trying to figure out which link i read it on :shrug:

[Takotna]

Rick's another random dude, apparently. There were lots and lots and lots of those.

Speaking of 'random dudes' did anyone else think it was a sad thing for LE and Lee to assign numbers to Casey's guys? They talked about it like it was nothing - I would be mortified to be talking like that regarding one of my siblings.

Maybe we should have a new abbreviation RD :shrug:

AllMO:)

[tashi]

And....Cindy's big story about G working so hard in the yard that he left sweat and blood and THAT"S what the LE dogs "inconsistently alerted" on! - These people have an explanation (or 2, or 3, or 4....) for everything, don't they?

AllMO:)


I am amazed at how Cindy tries to come up with "reasonable" explanations for everything...maggot pizza, dead squirrels, sweat or pee, someone else's dead body...

The list is too long to recount. If they only put as much effort into finding out the truth, this case would have been solved a long time ago.

[panokatana]

And....Cindy's big story about G working so hard in the yard that he left sweat and blood and THAT"S what the LE dogs "inconsistently alerted" on! - These people have an explanation (or 2, or 3, or 4....) for everything, don't they?

AllMO:)

You know the only thing that's missing from what she said?
Usually...the saying is...Blood, Sweat ...and Tears.

JMO

[5boxersmom]

I can't believe Cindy took that money. :eek:

I can't believe when Lee talks about smell like a wave in the garage. :eek:

I also find it very chilling when Lee says Cindy said to Casey before LE arrived "What did you do?"

Caylee:rose:

[tashi]

I am curious to know more about this Brandon "character". It seems he actually had the "power" to provoke actual emotion from Casey! (I am less inclined to believe that an alleged miscarriage some time ago (as was alluded to...with Brandon being involved), would have brought her to tears while at a party...in fact, he seemed to induce a whole gamut of emotions, ranging from tears to being highly "pizzed", if I remember correctly. Wonder what would happen if LE were to arrange for him to pay Casey a surprise visit?

JMO



That struck me as odd too. I'm wondering if she was upset that she wasn't able to manipulate him like she had with so many other guys. I would have liked to see a deposition from him to get his side of the story.

[WillowInFlight]

Well one thing all those people agree on is that Casey is needy and a talker, She seems to have talked about everything under the sun except for Caylee, WHO HAS BEEN MISSING 100 DAYS NOW CASEY!:cuss:

[OneUp]

This is the tip referred to by myself in the W. Waters interview. It wasn't called in. It seems odd given that this is a story also promoted by family, maybe that tip was something they heard first from LE?...I'm sure the family latchs on to any little thing to be hopeful about that might prove even one aspect of Casey's stories.
It's odd...I'm sure LE checked it out thoroughly. I can't see why WW would lie if he knew a friend had repaired her car, unless he didn't want them in trouble for not reporting the smell or for working on the car after hours where they worked , etc....
You tell me if it seems odd somehow to you too...

EE: Crimeline tip. Winterpark arrested a kid on 07/26 I guess that this call came in, which would be last, it was last weekend. It's last Saturday. This is Ryan Huffman. "Suspect stated Will Waters, Casey's supposed boyfriend, mentioned in casual conversation that Casey ahd been in an accident and brought her car in for repair. Afterwords unknown mechanic, unknown garage, stated that the car smelled like a dead body. No further details" Ring any bell?
WW: Who said..."
( continues on page 193)
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

Seems odd...I guess LE gets false and trumped up tips all the time though. I have said that if she had an accomplice in dumping Caylee, that IMO it would be a male she hadn't paid attention to previous who thought of Casey as out of his league. Someone really smitten with ehr who percieved her as special and glamourous. I'm not saying WW fits that, I first thought of the odd duck that visited her in jail ( Patrick?)....could be that it was a male she met through WW when she had car repair done...No way for us to now if she even had any work done ( Casey lies!).
I still don't favor any accomplice in the initial acts ( cover up...I think likely)...but I'm open to changing on that point if evidence comes forward to indicate it.
JMO.

[panokatana]

I think there is a huge coc problem with this case. huge. Not just with this, but her phone (lee using it) her clothing in the car (the hindering of the investigation by the A's) and the retrieving of her laptop and bags and recipes by family members. This bothers me. I can see a defense atty ripping this apart at trial.

Why LE has not confiscated or vacuumed out the Jeep or Amy's car I will never know. I guess they are pretty convinced she died in that car, Casey's car. The fact she was driving around in that Jeep before Amy's car really really made me realize, that Caylee is dead. She already was smelling up that car, which is why Casey was using the Jeep I think. I found the info about the Jeep to be pretty upsetting.
Now I can finally let go of my theory, for the most part it does sound as if Casey had Caylee last. As far as whether she drowned in that pool though, Im not sure. Sounds to me like she woke up in the middle of the night in an unfamilair home, cried, or was "bothering" casey and after a night of partying Casey left with Caylee. I thnk it was that night that she killed her. The night that he woke up and Caylee was gone. That was just too much for me....I think she did "get rid of her" (those were casey's words on tape) so harsh at the time, but now I see why she chose to use those specific words.

:shrug:

Hi Dots...
It took me a minute to figure out your first sentence. (I didn't disagree, though!) :) Then I realized what you meant.
I, too, thought the same thing about the night. True, the LE seems to have verified the date on the Nursing Home photo, but after reading the docs...NO ONE remembers seeing Caylee after that...(which tends to make the original date of the 9th plausible.) We do have Jesse THINKING he heard Caylee, and Kristina (iirc) saying they took a walk...but doesn't it seem...everyone else...puts the date earlier?

JMO

[anyonesguess]

Thanks for that bit of info.

I'm only on page eighty six of three hundred & seventeen pages. :)


I found it very interesting as well when Lee talking about going to TonE's and picking up Casey's backpacks and how organized they were with the packing part. He said there is NO way Casey packed them. They were VERY disorganized and clothes were just thrown everywhere normally, etc. He even mentioned the receipts being organized in the back packs.

[beetlebrow]

Anyone else see where Lauren mentioned that they used to go to the GRAVEL PITS to hang out in high school?????

Hmmm......just sayin

[WillowInFlight]

Anyone else notice in Brittany Shieber's statement she says Casey told her she found out she was pregnant during her seventh month?

Cindy's brother Rick was telling the truth all along.

Yep, and in Laurens statement Casey told her when she was 5 months, and according to Lauren, Casey started planning the nursery.

[kakax]

I got satisfaction from reading casey was having nightmares. I hope every time she tries to sleep she is haunted with what she did to Caylee.

Me too... and you know it has to worse living in the house with all of her things.
One thing I feel sure of, Casey isn't going to spill the beans about anything. I just hope LE has the forensics to back these documents.
Notice we haven't seen George or Cindy's statements to police, except their written ones....must be saving those for the big charges.

[kakax]

Anyone else see where Lauren mentioned that they used to go to the GRAVEL PITS to hang out in high school?????

Hmmm......just sayin


In the last set of documents, the police were taken to a place where they used to "hang" out. Can't remember if they searched there or not.

[beetlebrow]

I found it very interesting as well when Lee talking about going to TonE's and picking up Casey's backpacks and how organized they were with the packing part. He said there is NO way Casey packed them. They were VERY disorganized and clothes were just thrown everywhere normally, etc. He even mentioned the receipts being organized in the back packs.


What I read was he was talking about the black bag that he thought Casey used for her lap top. The papers and the receipts in that bag were neatly packed. He never said anything about her other bags. I think the Anthony's are trying to set Tony up. IMO

[panokatana]

Anyone else see where Lauren mentioned that they used to go to the GRAVEL PITS to hang out in high school?????

Hmmm......just sayin

I am not certain, but I read that as the detective interviewing her saying...Did Casey and her friends have a place they hung out... then he says...We used to hang out at the gravel pits...(meaning in his youth)... I had to reread it, because I thought she said it at first...(and it was familiar because in college...WE had gravel pits.) I may be mistaken and I will take another look, though.

JMO

[5boxersmom]

I've believed Rick was the real deal all along.

Me too. I think he told about Casey stealing from his parents before I heard it anywhere else.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[beetlebrow]

In the last set of documents, the police were taken to a place where they used to "hang" out. Can't remember if they searched there or not.

Not the gravel pits.......that was behind the elementary school.

[rj1212]

I only know animal decomp. Skunks smell like lemon to me in the beginning. I have a really senistive nose, I pick up notes and hints of things in my palate. :(
It can be very bothersome. I too dont understand, how these four people are not outraged. They are not; because GA helped to get rid of what was left of Caylee. So they all have to band together now; in what I see as the biggest lie of thier lives, and THIER BIGGEST MISTAKE . I do feel that my "hinky meter" about GA is still; correct to the bone. From his first interview on, I knew he was lying about those gas cans. First we find out about him reporting this "crime" to LE and then we find out he loves to detail Cars, and upholstery. I'll bet it is GA who had common knowledge of chloro in getting out troublesome stains in upholstery of cars. He detailed them, it's his "thing"
Im very troubled. If I lived near them I couldnt look him in the eye.
I still think that the community needs to come together for Caylee.
Dots


:cuss:

ITA :) Thanks for your input!

[Lostgirl]

Cindy's excuses are crazy but when she made up the excuse about the dead body in the trunk ... she officially jumped the shark!

she tossed it out there like.... dead bodies are available at every Walmart and people are tossing them in and out of trunks every day of the week.

I remember watching her say it on the TV and i was dumbfounded :shrug:

[anyonesguess]

In the last set of documents, the police were taken to a place where they used to "hang" out. Can't remember if they searched there or not.

For some reason I thought that place was near their school they went that Casey and she would hang out.

[Rebel Rouzer]

This is neither here nor there but...

We should be seeing a fictionalized (pun intended) verision of this case on Law & Order S.V.U. pretty soon.

Bet on it.

LOL I can't believe you thought of that. I just told my S/O the same thing in the past few days. :lol:

[BrownEyedF]

Someone asked earlier what Amy Huizenga looked like. If you go to this link and look at the video for "car stench discussed" it shows Amy. Cute girl. I always wondered too.

http://www.local6.com/news/index.html

[DiamondL'il]

I found it very interesting as well when Lee talking about going to TonE's and picking up Casey's backpacks and how organized they were with the packing part. He said there is NO way Casey packed them. They were VERY disorganized and clothes were just thrown everywhere normally, etc. He even mentioned the receipts being organized in the back packs.

I would presume that the orderly fashion in which her things were arranged was because even disheveled people can organize/pack when they are taking a planned trip. (California) I think the PoPo interupted her travel plans and her itenerary was rerouted to the pokey before she had executed (pardon the pun) the final chapter. IMO that was going to be the parental units of PPoF!:flamemad:

[kakax]

For some reason I thought that place was near their school they went that Casey and she would hang out.


Yep you are right... I hope they have searched all the areas that have been mentioned.

That Will or William guy seemed a little off kilter to me. What did you all think about him?

[jakee]

I can't believe Cindy took that money. :eek:

I can't believe when Lee talks about smell like a wave in the garage. :eek:

I also find it very chilling when Lee says Cindy said to Casey before LE arrived "What did you do?"

Caylee:rose:

I also was disturbed when Cindy and George were scared to look in the trunk, either it was Casey or Caylee's dead body. eerie.

[tashi]

What I read was he was talking about the black bag that he thought Casey used for her lap top. The papers and the receipts in that bag were neatly packed. He never said anything about her other bags. I think the Anthony's are trying to set Tony up. IMO


That was my thought too...cast suspicion on other people.

Jesse, Tony, Amy...anyone but Casey

[pooh579]

just finished the new reading material. I was under the impression that there was alot more than this. Did i miss something?

[kakax]

Kakax, I only have the first 317 pages. Do you have a link to more of the docs? TIA.



That's all I have...I was referring to the last doc dump LOL!

[kakax]

just finished the new reading material. I was under the impression that there was alot more than this. Did i miss something?

When I saw Kathy Belich reporting, she had lists of texts messages and pictures that were taken off myspace...I think there is more to it than these 317 pages.

[WillowInFlight]

What I read was he was talking about the black bag that he thought Casey used for her lap top. The papers and the receipts in that bag were neatly packed. He never said anything about her other bags. I think the Anthony's are trying to set Tony up. IMO

Well according to Jesse, Cindy already accused him of stuffing Caylee in the trunk, Even though George says the body in the trunk wasn't his granddaughter. Cindy and George need to get their stories straight.

[panokatana]

Anyone else see where Lauren mentioned that they used to go to the GRAVEL PITS to hang out in high school?????

Hmmm......just sayin

Page 15 of Lauren's interview: It appears EE is saying that where he grew up, they would go to the gravel pits to socialize. I think he was trying to give her an idea of what he meant when he asked if they had a place to socialize...that wasn't a club...that might have been outside.

JMO

[beetlebrow]

That was my thought too...cast suspicion on other people.

Jesse, Tony, Amy...anyone but Casey

Read all the things JG said to LE about Tony and his friends and the people that hung out at Fusion!!!. It is pretty obvious from both JG's interviews that he does NOT like Tony. I wonder if he still carries a torch for Casey??

[tashi]

just finished the new reading material. I was under the impression that there was alot more than this. Did i miss something?


There's 274 pages we're still waiting on...

[beetlebrow]

Page 15 of Lauren's interview: It appears EE is saying that where he grew up, they would go to the gravel pits to socialize. I think he was trying to give her an idea of what he meant when he asked if they had a place to socialize...that wasn't a club...that might have been outside.

JMO

Oh dear.....my faux pas.....as the great Rosanna Rosanna Danna would say........NEVER MIND :D

[kakax]

And Baez' spokesman claims there is nothing new in these documents.

Do you think they say crap like that in hopes that no one will read 'em?

Idiots.

There are quite a few doozies in this set of documents.

The squirrel revelation and the timing I think is big. The gas can incident being so different than what George mentioned is huge. Can't think right off hand, my head is kind of spinning LOL!!

Some gaps were filled as well. Like her using Tone's car for those days he was in NY. I was wondering how she was getting around. And confirmation of Rick's story that George worked at Anthony's Autos.

I'm thinking this wasn't a very happy family, to say the least. Poor Caylee..:( We know that God didn't see her as a mistake!:rose:

[pooh579]

When I saw Kathy Belich reporting, she had lists of texts messages and pictures that were taken off myspace...I think there is more to it than these 317 pages.

I know i am new here, but i feel cheated somehow. my curiosity is getting the best of me

[OneUp]

And I guess the fact that Cindy told Amy that Casey had been stealing money for years discounts the theory that Casey started acting different/snapped after Caylee accidentally died :rolleyes:That fact, and the fact that she lied about work and took advantage of Lauren for free babysitting are two things in these interviews that serve to prove her pathology is years old AT LEAST...niot a recent "snap". People just never knew the real Casey, and it seems when they did that she moved on.

I saw mention upthread of Casey possibly borrowing the shovel to lift Caylees remains. To me that is highly unlikely, one "extra" job I once worked was at a chicken feed production plant. For the cleanup, we had to lift large shovelfulls of the dust from the feed and even many of the men present struggled to lift that much weight ( I'd estimate 20 lbs.) in that manner. You are essentially balancing it on the end of a stick...much harder than lifting comparable weight in your hands. I'm sure I could not lift roughly 30 pounds that way. The handle of the shovel would be liable to snap uner 30 pounds of weight held in the air too.
Think of the strain when shoveling snow....
JMO, as always.

[beetlebrow]

There's 274 pages we're still waiting on...

Where are the text messages.......NG had them :shrug:

[rj1212]

Well according to Jesse, Cindy already accused him of stuffing Caylee in the trunk, Even though George says the body in the trunk wasn't his granddaughter. Cindy and George need to get their stories straight.

I'd like to know if the "kidnappers" are still "being watched"? The ones that George Anthony referred to? :rolleyes:

[OneUp]

Anyone else notice in Brittany Shieber's statement she says Casey told her she found out she was pregnant during her seventh month?

Cindy's brother Rick was telling the truth all along.
:seeya:I noticed Mista Carter! OO OO! Call on me!
Seriously, that does lend a bit more weight to his statements. The stealing from the G-Gp's (true), the preg./7 months (true), the denial ( duh! True), the years of coverig ( true), I'd need a list at hand of what else he said...but much of it holds true between these witnesses and the Greta "source" ( probably Rick...I believe Greta would be thorough in checking a source though.).
JMO.

[panokatana]

Oh dear.....my faux pas.....as the great Rosanna Rosanna Danna would say........NEVER MIND :D

Like I said...I first read it as if she was saying gravel pits... (I only reread because I remembered the "gravel pits" from my own school years, and thought...OTHER people had Gravel Pits??) I always thought it was unfortunate that's where everyone here had to go to socialize! :) We didn't have big clubs here..in the olden days...And at the little venues we did have, we drew big name performers like...uh...Stillwater and Mac Frampton (Peter's brother!) :)

JMO

[BrownEyedF]

Read all the things JG said to LE about Tony and his friends and the people that hung out at Fusion!!!. It is pretty obvious from both JG's interviews that he does NOT like Tony. I wonder if he still carries a torch for Casey??


I thought the same thing. The things that he said about her made me feel sorry for him and kinda angry at him at the same time. It also seemed like he was very resentful of her relationship with Tony.

[5boxersmom]

I also was disturbed when Cindy and George were scared to look in the trunk, either it was Casey or Caylee's dead body. eerie.

Yeah, but I thought Cindy heard from Casey everyday? So why would they think it was her? :confused: So many lies.

Caylee:rose:

[beetlebrow]

That fact, and the fact that she lied about work and took advantage of Lauren for free babysitting are two things in these interviews that serve to prove her pathology is years old AT LEAST...niot a recent "snap". People just never knew the real Casey, and it seems when they did that she moved on.

I saw mention upthread of Casey possibly borrowing the shovel to lift Caylees remains. To me that is highly unlikely, one "extra" job I once worked was at a chicken feed production plant. For the cleanup, we had to lift large shovelfulls of the dust from the feed and even many of the men present struggled to lift that much weight ( I'd estimate 20 lbs.) in that manner. You are essentially balancing it on the end of a stick...much harder than lifting comparable weight in your hands. I'm sure I could not lift roughly 30 pounds that way. The handle of the shovel would be liable to snap uner 30 pounds of weight held in the air too.
Think of the strain when shoveling snow....
JMO, as always.


The neighbor said he thought he saw her at the house with a man and they were outside a truck????? Casey's car was NOT there. Tony said in his interview that he stayed in the car or jeep when Casey went to pick up the gas cans.

I thought that the neighbor's interview was strange. He seemed kinda nutty. He did not seem to want to commit to anything or he was scared??? Maybe he is just someone who does not want to get involved.

But......what did he see.....Casey and a man OUT of the truck walking towards the garage.....on 6/19?.......THIS IS BIG......here is the possible person who helped Casey.

[pooh579]

I was speechless after reading lee's statements.
I guess lenny was right i was shocked

[BrownEyedF]

I'd like to know if the "kidnappers" are still "being watched"? The ones that George Anthony referred to? :rolleyes:


Me too. I want to sit the GPs down, shine a bright light into their eyes, and slap them with every inconsistency I can find. I think if they withdrew their support from Casey that the truth would come out.

[beetlebrow]

Well according to Jesse, Cindy already accused him of stuffing Caylee in the trunk, Even though George says the body in the trunk wasn't his granddaughter. Cindy and George need to get their stories straight.

WAY TOO LATE.....:lol:

[WillowInFlight]

I'd like to know if the "kidnappers" are still "being watched"? The ones that George Anthony referred to? :rolleyes:

I'd like to see Cindy and George hauled in for interference of the investigation.

[bluwaters]

Yeah, but I thought Cindy heard from Casey everyday? So why would they think it was her? :confused: So many lies.

Caylee:rose:
Oooh, 5BM - good catch! :read:

[Rayosunshine]

Hey all :seeya:So nice to finally sit down here and be able to read ahhh.

I'm down to Amy's interview and one thing I wanted to mention, the first thing is, why didn't Cindy question Tony or the roommate where Caylee was? Why wasn't she looking around and mentioning no toys, no Caylee, no nothing? I thought that was odd. Amy's interview, was interesting that she said JP Chatt was even less involved (or words to those effect) and that JP never really liked Casey. I wonder why? And Isabelle, was thinking of you when I read that part, what do you think of that part of the conversation. I almost thought it odd that Amy (so far up to where I read) said that about Chatt and didn't say it about any others.

Interesting all around and can't know how my opinions will be changing by the time I'm done reading them. Anyone read them all yet?

Motomom, yes I noticed that in Amy's interview, when describing friends. I would wonder why Amy felt the need to elaborate on Chatt, when she didn't do the same with others. I noticed too that so far there is no Chatt interview. I wonder where he is keeping himself these days.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[OneUp]

And Baez' spokesman claims there is nothing new in these documents.

Do you think they say crap like that in hopes that no one will read 'em?

Idiots.Maybe it's just nothing new to them...I have trouble picturing anyone named Anthony coming clean..but I suppose it could happen...???...:shrug:

JMO.

[pooh579]

The neighbor said he thought he saw her at the house with a man and they were outside a truck????? Casey's car was NOT there. Tony said in his interview that he stayed in the car or jeep when Casey went to pick up the gas cans.

I thought that the neighbor's interview was strange. He seemed kinda nutty. He did not seem to want to commit to anything or he was scared??? Maybe he is just someone who does not want to get involved.

But......what did he see.....Casey and a man OUT of the truck walking towards the garage.....on 6/19?.......THIS IS BIG......here is the possible person who helped Casey.

I think i would be a little scared to if they was my next door neighbors.the a's scare me

[AlohaRainbow]

ITA, he said he could only stand in the garage a few minutes at a time, funny how Casey said the squirrel got up under the hood but the smell came from the trunk, I wonder how she explains that. I also thought Amy shed a lot of light on some of the lies that Casey told her that I have never heard of before, I can't believe she told Amy George had just had a mini stroke and that Cindy was signing the house over to her because Cindy and George were going to get an apartment.

Knowing what Cindy and Casey's friends know now I wonder what they think. I imagine that Casey is blaming everyone else for her lies. After all they weren't really lies, just misunderstandings.

I'm trying to catch up on what Brittany says.
:eek: new lies. amazing isn't it -the breadth and gamut of topics that casey's lies cover - employment, housing, medical issues, squirrels and other roadkill, nannys, cell phones, sim cards, etc. no subject is too big or too small for her to tackle

thanks to all of you great posters who have kept the info flowing today... of course, i was stuck at work all day and not able to read any of the new docs for myself... but you posters are the greatest!!

[WillowInFlight]

I was speechless after reading lee's statements.
I guess lenny was right i was shocked

I just wonder if Cindy hadn't stormed Casey's bedroom that night how much Lee could have gotten out of her.

[Rayosunshine]

Still reading. I am just starting Wm. Waters interview.

Some of it I have to read twice because I am :eek: and think I read it wrong. I think Troy said it best on page 145:

"She, actually it was weird. It was kind of like a, almost a roller coaster because it seemed like she was very carefree. More carefree than what she normally was.........she was very carefree and I guess loving life, and then there was the interaction with her family, and that's when she would, you know, be visibly upset."

jmo

Bipolar?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[beetlebrow]

Motomom, yes I noticed that in Amy's interview, when describing friends. I would wonder why Amy felt the need to elaborate on Chatt, when she didn't do the same with others. I noticed too that so far there is no Chatt interview. I wonder where he is keeping himself these days.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I thought there was an interview in the first docs?
I think he is the only one who was probably onto her right away.....good for him!!!

[jakee]

Yeah, but I thought Cindy heard from Casey everyday? So why would they think it was her? :confused: So many lies.

Caylee:rose:

Interesting indeed.

[pooh579]

I just wonder if Cindy hadn't stormed Casey's bedroom that night how much Lee could have gotten out of her.

i guess we will never know how simple this could have been.that poor baby she deserves so much more than she was allowed to have.

[beetlebrow]

I think i would be a little scared to if they was my next door neighbors.the a's scare me

Ya definitely......nightmares of Cindy coming at me with a hammer/bat :eek:

[WillowInFlight]

Maybe it's just nothing new to them...I have trouble picturing anyone named Anthony coming clean..but I suppose it could happen...???...:shrug:

JMO.

Yes and I could hit the lotto and share it with all my fellow posters. LOL

[Takotna]

I would presume that the orderly fashion in which her things were arranged was because even disheveled people can organize/pack when they are taking a planned trip. (California) I think the PoPo interupted her travel plans and her itenerary was rerouted to the pokey before she had executed (pardon the pun) the final chapter. IMO that was going to be the parental units of PPoF!:flamemad:

I would agree her plans were cut short. I also think there would be another reason her things were organized. IMO whe was doing her best to impress TonE - cooking, cleaning... Remember in one of the jail talks with Lee, Casey said something about how she tried to keep her things together in TonE's place?

AllMO:)

[Rayosunshine]

Good question - I got the impression Amy bought it for Casey to use thinking it would be handy to have one anyway. Then Casey used Amy's car....

This gas thing bugs me again - I think there are probably several gas cans that may be unaccounted for.

The tagged one just may be important.

AllMO:)

What would she need all that gasoline for? To incinerate a body, bones don't burn. Maybe gasoline covers stuff up, I don't know.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[OneUp]

Read all the things JG said to LE about Tony and his friends and the people that hung out at Fusion!!!. It is pretty obvious from both JG's interviews that he does NOT like Tony. I wonder if he still carries a torch for Casey??I'm sure he may well be...I know his entire family is heartbroken over Caylee. My take on his view of TonE was that it was the "lifestyle" that put him off. They have very different beliefs and ways of living it seems. TonE the flashy type and a partier, Jesse more quiet and homebody with Church values ( obviously working on the libido area though, young guys....).
JMO.

[Rayosunshine]

[QUOTE=kakax;12174977]Could be....I just have never heard of the detail guys ordering chloroform to get stains out. I don't think its common practice. They have special stuff they use, but I can't imagine chloroform being on that list. You can bet I'll ask in the morning rofl![/QUOT

I couldn't imagine anyone using Chloroform inside a vehicle to clean it. Every with the doors open I imagine it could be a problem for the person using it.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[5boxersmom]

I would agree her plans were cut short. I also think there would be another reason her things were organized. IMO whe was doing her best to impress TonE - cooking, cleaning... Remember in one of the jail talks with Lee, Casey said something about how she tried to keep her things together in TonE's place?

AllMO:)

Centralized. They were centralized at TonE's. :)

Why do they talk that way? Do they think it makes them look so much smarter then the rest of us?

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[rj1212]

I'd like to see Cindy and George hauled in for interference of the investigation.

EXACTLY! They used the media and LE to deny, deny, deny. Then confuse, confuse, confuse. Now they simply trying to divert, divert, divert..

I hope they are hauled in very soon....

[beetlebrow]

I would agree her plans were cut short. I also think there would be another reason her things were organized. IMO whe was doing her best to impress TonE - cooking, cleaning... Remember in one of the jail talks with Lee, Casey said something about how she tried to keep her things together in TonE's place?

AllMO:)

I am am pretty sure he was talking about the computer bag only....because it had her papers and CC receipts (some are missing :eek:)......PLUS Lee alluded to things being possibly erased......all of Casey's e-mail account. Looks to me like Lee is well on his way to setting Tony up....

[beckyj]

I've been busy all day and just now reading the 600 pages. I just have to say it breaks my heart to hear LA describe the smell in that car. I wonder if it was even occurring to him that it could be the remains of his niece? At any rate, it's just sooo sad.

[pooh579]

i think the chloroform was a result of trying to clean the smell out of the car. bleach and ammonia arm and hammer and ....... but that is just what i think at this point
g a like the cars clean

[5boxersmom]

I can't remember who said it but I did laugh when it was said Dead Squirrels climbed up in the engine. Dead Squirrels?

jmo


Caylee:rose:

[panokatana]

Does anyone know where JP Chatt is employed. For some reason, I am thinking he is somehow involved in the media. A news anchor, a radio anchor...more than a DJ, but something to do with media?

And...I have to say, it was pretty difficult trying to get a fix on TonE's interview. It was just a bit difficult to follow. Of course, it could be the way it was transcribed.

And...I guess they really tried to capture EVERYTHING that was uttered in that room...right down to...JG: (burps)!

*** And tonight...on NG when they were replaying LE's interview with Casey... they play the tape, and the words are transcribed for the viewer to read...
IT sure sounded like...when LE asks Casey "Do you want us to help?" She says, (in an ever so snide way) "Do you want ME to help?" Although that line is not printed on the screen. Did anyone else hear this? I don't think I noticed that in earlier replays.

JMO

[Velouria]

And Baez' spokesman claims there is nothing new in these documents.

Do you think they say crap like that in hopes that no one will read 'em?

Idiots.


I agree with what NG said tonight about Casey and the dead squirrel story. It confirms she acknowleged the smell of decomposition before the car was abandoned - huge boo-boo for the defense! Nothing new, he wishes.

[beetlebrow]

Anyone know why Lee was so persistant about the (what he described) as an old ID card that fell out of Caseys wallet when her mom dumped it on the floor. He said it was behind her DL in the window pocket.

It was like he was trying very hard to tell LE something without actually coming right out and saying it......

[Rayosunshine]

I thought there was 600 pages of documents released? What I read was a lot, but not 600 pages I don't think, but maybe it was? Am I missing a link to the rest of the document dump somewhere?


The neighbor saw a green truck in the driveway one day as well. That is new to me, and maybe Casey did have an accomplice?

Wondered if the green truck sighting was when Tony brought Caylee to get the gas cans?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[pooh579]

Wouldn't normal people have called 911 ?

these people are not normal in any way. I just cant seem to figure them out.

[OneUp]

The neighbor said he thought he saw her at the house with a man and they were outside a truck????? Casey's car was NOT there. Tony said in his interview that he stayed in the car or jeep when Casey went to pick up the gas cans.

I thought that the neighbor's interview was strange. He seemed kinda nutty. He did not seem to want to commit to anything or he was scared??? Maybe he is just someone who does not want to get involved.

But......what did he see.....Casey and a man OUT of the truck walking towards the garage.....on 6/19?.......THIS IS BIG......here is the possible person who helped Casey.I thought she borrowed his shovel on the day HER car was backed into the garage ( 17th-19th..he isn't sure)...the truck was there another day IIRC ( the 23rd).
His interview was odd, and IMO he indicated to LE that he didn't want to offend George and that his wife basically told him not to get involved. ( see page 170-175) He talked about G. coming over to talk to him and asking if he was the one who turned in the shovel. He and the officer referred to the fact that his kids had to live there and he didn't want things to get uncomfortable...to let LE know if things changed. Lots of people don't want to get involved...sad but true. I think George intimidates him.
JMO.
I'd re-read his statement...IMO it is telling of how the neighbors percieved the family.

[Takotna]

What would she need all that gasoline for? To incinerate a body, bones don't burn. Maybe gasoline covers stuff up, I don't know.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Maybe she was driving places (out of the way, farther than usual) and didn't want to buy gas, didn't want a record anywhere of her buying gas. I don't think she wanted to incinerate anything - smoke, smell, etc would draw attention to her. (of course the smell in the car brought a lot of attention too:shrug:)

I don't think Casey would be inclined to put a lot of energy into disposing of anything.

AllMO:)

[Ionmhainn]

I just finished reading all the interviews. Now I know that Casey tells different lies to different people. Other than that, I don't feel much more enlightened. :shrug: However, my eyes have suffered!

Anyone find any "aces " in this pack of lies??

[AlohaRainbow]

My guess is that as sexually busy as Casey was, and as poorly as she managed virtually every aspect of her life, there's a high likelihood she's had a least one 'miscarriage.'
what you just wrote reminded me of cindy telling someone that casey had been brought to the hospital once for a seizure. i wonder if it was really a seizure, or if casey had told her mom it was seizure when it was for something else...

[beetlebrow]

Wondered if the green truck sighting was when Tony brought Caylee to get the gas cans?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

The neighbor said they were both standing outside the vehicle. In Tony's interview he said he stayed in the car. Neither has a truck. I think what the neighbor saw is going to be very important to this case but the neighbor sounds somewhat shaky about exactly what he saw.

[Rayosunshine]

Mine too, but maybe not for the same reasons.

Also, when Amy related that Tony read her a text message from Casey about spending an eternity behind bars if they find her supposedly sent on the 16th, the detective stated there's no way she could have texted him that, because she was arrested on the 16th. :eek:

Didn't Tony have her cell phone, and that's how he was able to get a hold of Amy?

I knew I should have taken notes. :(

IMO

I believe Tony called Amy using Casey's phone, before Lee came to pick up Casey's stuff. Could Casey have sent the text before LE arrested her? The timing of that message would be important.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[msjoni]

The Orange Osceola State Attorney’s Office released 591 pages of Discovery in the Casey Anthony case Tuesday.
Try this site....
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7494099&version=10&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[pooh579]

I just finished reading all the interviews. Now I know that Casey tells different lies to different people. Other than that, I don't feel much more enlightened. :shrug: However, my eyes have suffered!

Anyone find any "aces " in this pack of lies??

just hope that the a's are going down. they are not innocent victims

[beckyj]

Anyone know why Lee was so persistant about the (what he described) as an old ID card that fell out of Caseys wallet when her mom dumped it on the floor. He said it was behind her DL in the window pocket.

It was like he was trying very hard to tell LE something without actually coming right out and saying it......


I'm wondering about that too. I have to say after reading his interview I think a little more highly of him. I think it would only be human nature to want to protect your sibling to some extent, but he seems very forthcoming with his information. JMO

[beetlebrow]

I'm wondering about that too. I have to say after reading his interview I think a little more highly of him. I think it would only be human nature to want to protect your sibling to some extent, but he seems very forthcoming with his information. JMO


I wonder what the Anthony family's reaction is going to be to his statement :eek:. Casey and Cindy did not come across well IMO. I'll bet he did not think it would be released to the public!!

I wonder if he will be back at the house again?

[Ionmhainn]

Plenty.

And I've only read ninety nine pages.

Can you give me one example....I ended up feeling that I'd sort of heard it all before, either by way of rumor or speculation. I was disappointed in the last doc dump too. TIA

[Rayosunshine]

Can I say something?

Well ok since nobody objects. lmao

I found it very odd that during that moment in time Cindy felt the need to take that money? Wasn't she supposed to be worried about Caylee? Thats who was missing? Why would she think to grab that money at a time like that? That woudl be the last thing on my mind. IMO

I wanted to spit when i read that

I found that behavior to be, to put it mildly, deviant. I can't believe they were able to go through some of the stuff without LE supervision. What if there were a weapon among her things. We have heard of botched investigations.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[beckyj]

I wonder what the Anthony family's reaction is going to be to his statement :eek:. Casey and Cindy did not come across well IMO. I'll bet he did not think it would be released to the public!!

I wonder if he will be back at the house again?

He better watch them with those hammers! LOL

[Lostgirl]

Me too. I want to sit the GPs down, shine a bright light into their eyes, and slap them with every inconsistency I can find. I think if they withdrew their support from Casey that the truth would come out.

I'm right with you on that... only difference is...I just want to sit them down and slap them :flamemad:

[Takotna]

Centralized. They were centralized at TonE's. :)

Why do they talk that way? Do they think it makes them look so much smarter then the rest of us?

jmo

Caylee:rose:

I know - It's so weird. I don't know anyone who talks like they do. I especially like Cindy's 'report a stolen auto' - who says that??
IMO they think it puts them higher up on the intellectual ladder - what they don't realize is it makes them sound silly, stiff and stilted.
It's just another odd dimension to this mess!

:)AllMO

[5boxersmom]

I know - It's so weird. I don't know anyone who talks like they do. I especially like Cindy's 'report a stolen auto' - who says that??
IMO they think it puts them higher up on the intellectual ladder - what they don't realize is it makes them sound silly, stiff and stilted.
It's just another odd dimension to this mess!

:)AllMO

Absolutely. :)

Caylee:rose:

[firefly75]

The Orange Osceola State Attorney’s Office released 591 pages of Discovery in the Casey Anthony case Tuesday.
Try this site....
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7494099&version=10&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
thank you:) I just have found the 317 pages of interviews but it says 600 pages? does anyone know where I can find the rest? I would be so thankful to anyone who might be able to tell me:)

[OneUp]

I know - It's so weird. I don't know anyone who talks like they do. I especially like Cindy's 'report a stolen auto' - who says that??
IMO they think it puts them higher up on the intellectual ladder - what they don't realize is it makes them sound silly, stiff and stilted.
It's just another odd dimension to this mess!

:)AllMO:lol: I had the same thought...they sound like they're "putting on airs" when they speak. It's especially funny when they miss the mark and say something that is just a little incorrect, them beam like they deserve a treat or sneer down the nose at someone else...LOL
I'm awful about mixing my metaphors and forgetting words myself, but that bunch def. has some oddities of speech that are unique to their clan.
JMO.

[Takotna]

I am am pretty sure he was talking about the computer bag only....because it had her papers and CC receipts (some are missing :eek:)......PLUS Lee alluded to things being possibly erased......all of Casey's e-mail account. Looks to me like Lee is well on his way to setting Tony up....

Something is certainly odd about this. I wonder, when Casey came back inside TonE's apartment before she went with Cindy, could she have done a quick data dump on her computer? And, why didn't she take her wallet and phone?

Remember the black bag with paperwork that was recovered by LE from her car? I wonder what that was??

AllMO:)

[Takotna]

:lol: I had the same thought...they sound like they're "putting on airs" when they speak. It's especially funny when they miss the mark and say something that is just a little incorrect, them beam like they deserve a treat or sneer down the nose at someone else...LOL
I'm awful about mixing my metaphors and forgetting words myself, but that bunch def. has some oddities of speech that are unique to their clan.
JMO.

That's a good way to put it "airs"! What they don't understand is it calls attention to particular statements - it makes them stick in our heads. That's how 5Boxersmom could immediately come up with 'centralized' because it was odd. I would think the last thing any of them would want to do would be to call attention to any statement!
We could call their speech patterns 'Anthonyisms' -

AllMO:)

[Ionmhainn]

Casey mentioned the smell emanating from the trunk to Amy... on June 25th. Although Casey claimed it was coming from under the hood.

That's just one little tidbit of info that strengthens my opinion that George & Cindy are actively covering up for Casey.

And you're welcome.


Thanks! But that's sort of what I meant...didn't have dates before, but certainly heard a lot about squirrels, pizza etc. The Anthonys have all spoken about the smell. How does Casey mentioning the smell to Amy strengthen your opinion about a cover up? Be kind, I'm tired. :)

[Lostgirl]

Centralized. They were centralized at TonE's. :)

Why do they talk that way? Do they think it makes them look so much smarter then the rest of us?

jmo

Caylee:rose:

maybe she meant "SCENTralized"

with the amount of ACTION that chick was getting... i think her clothes were probably very SCENTralized and not in a good way :chicken:

[Ionmhainn]

That's a good way to put it "airs"! What they don't understand is it calls attention to particular statements - it makes them stick in our heads. That's how 5Boxersmom could immediately come up with 'centralized' because it was odd. I would think the last thing any of them would want to do would be to call attention to any statement!
We could call their speech patterns 'Anthonyisms' -

AllMO:)


I've never him use the term "centralized" but, at my son's wedding, I did notice that he and his firefighter buddies tended to say "absolutely" instead of plain old "yes" and "not at all" instead of "no." I just thought I was out of the latest "language loop!"

[Rayosunshine]

Think it's frozen? The bright light is still on in the second window. Could be they are doing an all night question/answer session? Sleep depravation therapy.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Takotna]

Thanks! But that's sort of what I meant...didn't have dates before, but certainly heard a lot about squirrels, pizza etc. The Anthonys have all spoken about the smell. How does Casey mentioning the smell to Amy strengthen your opinion about a cover up? Be kind, I'm tired. :)

Hi Ionmhainn, Knowing Casey acknowledged the smell was important to me because this made it common knowldege and she attributed it to something dead - she knew exactly what it was. She also told several people about it. At the same time, Cindy is pawning the smell off on pizza and detergent and someone else placing a body in the trunk...
Also the date, the 25th was meaningful to me because it makes G's entire sugar-coated gascan story even less credible.
There may be no giant revelation (too bad!) but I think there are many little things slowly bringing the whole mess together.

The most glaring statement to me was Cindy saying she had to find Casey so she wouldn't be taken to jail. - Sadly, Caylee was no longer an issue to her after she smelled the car.

AllMO:)

[tiny paw-prints]

Casey mentioned the smell emanating from the trunk to Amy... on June 25th. Although Casey claimed it was coming from under the hood.

That's just one little tidbit of info that strengthens my opinion that George & Cindy are actively covering up for Casey.

And you're welcome.

I thought it was interesting that Amy was able to recall so many specific dates with so much detail. For example, how did she remember that it was the 25th, instead of the 24th or 26th?

I know she works 2 jobs which would also apply 2 separate working schedules, so maybe this is how she was able to accurately recall specific dates?

It may be that she's a naturally organized person, or maybe she has one of those day-planners to help keep track of her working schedule, as well as all the parties, clubbing, who drove what car on whatever day, etc?

[Takotna]

I thought it was interesting that Amy was able to recall so many specific dates with so much detail. For example, how did she remember that it was the 25th, instead of the 24th or 26th?

I know she works 2 jobs which would also apply 2 separate working schedules, so maybe this is how she was able to accurately recall specific dates?

It may be that she's a naturally organized person, or maybe she has one of those day-planners to help keep track of her working schedule, as well as all the parties, clubbing, who drove what car on whatever day, etc?

IMO with all their texting and messaging, dates are easier to come up with. I also think Amy does sound like she's organized and responsible.

AllMO:)

[5boxersmom]

I thought it was interesting that Amy was able to recall so many specific dates with so much detail. For example, how did she remember that it was the 25th, instead of the 24th or 26th?

I know she works 2 jobs which would also apply 2 separate working schedules, so maybe this is how she was able to accurately recall specific dates?

It may be that she's a naturally organized person, or maybe she has one of those day-planners to help keep track of her working schedule, as well as all the parties, clubbing, who drove what car on whatever day, etc?


I think alot of them put the dates together from dates on their phones and text messages.
They also probably remembered parties and what clubs they went to.
jmo

Caylee:rose:

[tiny paw-prints]

I am am pretty sure he was talking about the computer bag only....because it had her papers and CC receipts (some are missing :eek:)......PLUS Lee alluded to things being possibly erased......all of Casey's e-mail account. Looks to me like Lee is well on his way to setting Tony up....


I thought Lee admitted that he gave some receipts to Baez?

[beetlebrow]

Something is certainly odd about this. I wonder, when Casey came back inside TonE's apartment before she went with Cindy, could she have done a quick data dump on her computer? And, why didn't she take her wallet and phone?

Remember the black bag with paperwork that was recovered by LE from her car? I wonder what that was??

AllMO:)

I know Cindy was with her because Cindy badmouthed Casey to Tony. I think Casey thought she was coming back :rolleyes:. Tony said that when Amy came to the door to get Casey to come outside, Casey was on her laptop on the couch. Maybe Casey was doing some deleting. The way Lee describes the computer.....it had automatically shut down...it doesn't sound like someone knew what they were doing.

About that other bag with paperwork.....hmmmm.......she had 2????.....doesn't seem right......somethings definetly fishy!!!!!!!

[OneUp]

It has gotten late and my brain is flooded with all this new information...though much of it only comfirms rumors and our speculations. Hopefully tomorrow we will see the rest of this latest release. I think those receipts will be meaningful, heck I can't remember a time I've been to the store in the past year and not bought one thing for my children. No juice, no diapers, no little toys, no goldfish crackers, etc. were purchased from the sound of it...it's doubtful that Caylee ate air sandwiches and went weeks w/o playthings.
I think we have confirmed some of our worst fears today with our reading.
I'm so saddened to see the ugliness little Caylee lived in, such a short life but so much strife and chaos all around her.
I'm off to spend time talking to God and praying for him to allow us to know peace and find earthly justice for Caylee. My greatest desire is to see that her remains have been retrieved so they may be placed lovingly and with honor in a special place just for Caylee. Every day my heart breaks knowing she is out there somewhere discarded.

I earlier said that the saddest thing of all is that the one person Caylee should have known would sacrifice her life for Caylee's wellbeing, instead sacrificed her child for her own selfish life. Who can step up for Caylee's rights with a family like this one? Who can the children of the world trust with monsters like this passing as parents?
JMO.
Time for bed...I'm getting too low in my heart for more.
Night.

[Shellberry]

oh my -hi everyone

I just started to read the 600 docs-
I started with lees interview-Im only on page 8, but...omg he says absolutely almost as much as casey.
it must be a family thing.....


I will probably be spending the next couple days reading the stuff.

anyone able to get through all that is posted so far?
anything interesting in them that I can skip right to?

t.i.a.



imo/jmo/etc

[beetlebrow]

I thought Lee admitted that he gave some receipts to Baez?

He was telling LE that it was strange that the receipts were organized...because Casey was such a messy person. I think he was alluding to interference from Tony IMO. Yes he did give the receipts to Baez after he said he tried to give them to LE twice.

[5boxersmom]

:rose:OneUp. I feel the same way. I would die for the people I love.

I really wish Caylee had legal representation. I think the whole money thing is suspicious.

Just so sad.

Caylee:rose:

[OneUp]

He was telling LE that it was strange that the receipts were organized...because Casey was such a messy person. I think he was alluding to interference from Tony IMO. Yes he did give the receipts to Baez after he said he tried to give them to LE twice.
As long as the purchases were made w/ credit cards or stolen checks...LE doesn't need the receipts from Lee. They can request them from the stores the checks are made out to (referenced by time and check#) and the credit card co. the same way.
JMO.
I really need to get to bed though...hard not to pop by the other forums! LOL.

[Lostgirl]

I know hindsight is 20/20 and all that but i can't help wishing that Cindy had been more proactive in monitoring Caylee's where abouts.

Cindy probably wishes the same thing so this isn't about bashing her for not caring about Caylee (even with all the odd behavior I do think she loved that little girl)

that said...

C&G knew Casey was a lying, thieving scumbag and she knew that baby was not in a stable, secure situation when she was out with Casey.

I wish she would have insisted upon seeing or hearing from Caylee every 24 hours or something... and just tell Casey ... if you don't show up with that baby or phone me and let me talk to HER every day... I will turn you in for theft.

they coddled Caseys bad behavior for far too long and all it did was escalate until we now have this tragic situation.

i know... i know.. woulda shoulda coulda :shrug:

but it's just such a shame .... poor little Caylee :rose:

[5boxersmom]

oh my -hi everyone

I just started to read the 600 docs-
I started with lees interview-Im only on page 8, but...omg he says absolutely almost as much as casey.
it must be a family thing.....


I will probably be spending the next couple days reading the stuff.

anyone able to get through all that is posted so far?
anything interesting in them that I can skip right to?

t.i.a



imo/jmo/etc

:seeya:

I read them all.

Yes, there is some interesting things. Casey told Amy on June 25th her car had a bad smell. She said a squirrel died in the motor. :rolleyes:

Cindy told Amy they were afraid to open the trunk of the car because of the smell. Thinking something had happen to Casey or Caylee. How could it be Casey when Cindy said she heard from her everyday? JMO

Jesse says Casey was a chameleon and would take on the things of people around her. Religion, smoking pot. Things like that.

No one saw Caylee after the 15th. That date is still the same.

Lee seemed helpful to LE during his interview. I think he has jumped ship now back to the family. jmo

Cindy ask Casey "What did you do?" while they were waiting for LE to get there.

Lee said the smell coming from the car was a wave that hit him when he went into the Anthony's garage. They were trying to air it out.
Caylee:rose:

[5boxersmom]

I forgot one Shel Cindy took money out of Casey's wallet and put it in her pocket when they were going through Casey's things that Lee brought over from TonE's. The detective had stepped out of the room at the time. :rolleyes:

Caylee:rose:

[cuddlyrunner]

I clicked on the orlandosentenniel link on the first page and I've got 317 docs downloading-where do you find the rest?

[Lostgirl]

Did LE ever ask to see the "script" that Zanny supposedly gave Casey to follow for 30 days?


I'm thinking she'd have to make up some BS excuse because i doubt she sat down and prefabricated a "fake" script to produce for LE

so if they asked her... what did she say?

Surely she wouldn't just throw such a valuable piece of evidence away?

Did the dog eat her (homework) err I mean "script"?

:confused:

[Lostgirl]

I clicked on the orlandosentenniel link on the first page and I've got 317 docs downloading-where do you find the rest?

i could be wrong but i don't think the rest have been released yet

[johnielee333]

I believe it was Premeditated murder what Casey did. my god i hope she doesnt get away with killing Caylee.

[Shellberry]

I read them all.

Yes, there is some interesting things. Casey told Amy on June 25th her car had a bad smell. She said a squirrel died in the motor.

Cindy told Amy they were afraid to open the trunk of the car because of the smell. Thinking something had happen to Casey or Caylee. How could it be Casey when Cindy said she heard from her everyday? JMO

Jesse says Casey was a chameleon and would take on the things of people around her. Religion, smoking pot. Things like that.

No one saw Caylee after the 15th. That date is still the same.

Lee seemed helpful to LE during his interview. I think he has jumped ship now back to the family. jmo

Cindy ask Casey "What did you do?" while they were waiting for LE to get there.

Lee said the smell coming from the car was a wave that hit him when he went into the Anthony's garage. They were trying to air it out.
Caylee:rose:

I forgot one Shel Cindy took money out of Casey's wallet and put it in her pocket when they were going through Casey's things that Lee brought over from TonE's. The detective had stepped out of the room at the time. :rolleyes:



thanks!!



Im reading lees interview still-interesting things Im reading in there
besides the absolutelys... and the smell of the car...

oh god, 2 dead squirrels crawled up under the hood..
LOL

[Lostgirl]

My fox Orlando has 10 interviews. You can read them on line, and not download them. I just zoomed my computer to 150% so I could read them -- the text, otherwise, is too small.

http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony

I'm still searching for the text messages --

I don't think they are available yet

[johnielee333]

where is the rest of the 600 pg doc ? i only got a 317 page doc.
does anyone know ?

[johnielee333]

Casey mentioned the smell emanating from the trunk to Amy... on June 25th. Although Casey claimed it was coming from under the hood.

That's just one little tidbit of info that strengthens my opinion that George & Cindy are actively covering up for Casey.

And you're welcome.

yep ~~~~~~~~~~~

[5boxersmom]

If the 15 was the last time Caylee was seen, then (imo) that's the day the child disappeared. That would be enough time for the decomposition by the 25th., strong odor for sure.

The things taken from Tony's are the things that were disposed of, by G&C, ie: toys etc.?

I don't think anything of Caylee's was at TonE's. Cindy told Laura that Casey never took anything from the house of Caylees. Also in the car was Caylee's babydoll that she always had to have.

I think Casey left with Caylee the night of the 15th mad, not taking anything with them. Then something happen with Caylee. Casey would come back to the house to get her things. No need for Caylee's things. :(

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[Shellberry]

If the 15 was the last time Caylee was seen, then (imo) that's the day the child disappeared. That would be enough time for the decomposition by the 25th., strong odor for sure.

The things taken from Tony's are the things that were disposed of, by G&C, ie: toys etc.?

when lee went to get caseys stuff--there was nothing there of caylees, no diapers, no toys, no nothing.
just caseys things.


imo/jmo

[Lostgirl]

where is the rest of the 600 pg doc ? i only got a 317 page doc.
does anyone know ?

I think that's all that's been made available so far... the rest is still being processed for release

[johnielee333]

I think that's all that's been made available so far... the rest is still being processed for release

thanks. i hope we get the rest later today.

[BobbisAngel]

I don't know if LE or anyone else will ever find Caylee but I do believe that in time Casey will be arrested for murder. I wonder if that girl believes her own lies? I never dreamed that a person could lie every time they open their mouth? I don't think she ever tells the truth.

I think that Casey was jealous of the attention that Cindy paid to Caylee. She was used to being the focus of her mother's attention until Caylee was born. I think that is one reason that she got rid of Caylee and I believe the other reason was because she simply didn't want the responsibility of a child cramping her style. She was in no way going to give that child to her parents to raise though. She would see Caylee dead first.

I don't understand why George and Cindy didn't take Caylee and file for custody of her. They knew that Casey didn't want that little girl and that she was a rotten mother. I think they had enough on Casey to get custody of Caylee. Yet they did nothing to save that little girl. That I blame them for. If you know that your child is not fit to be a mother and your grandchild isn't being taken care of and is being drug all over the place and left with who knows who then your grandchild should be first and foremost the top priority. So what if your child gets angry at you. They will get over it or they won't BUT your grandchild will be safe.

I also believe that George and Cindy know that Caylee is no longer alive. Why are they going to such extremes now to protect Casey? They are lying as much as Casey now. I don't know how they can live with themselves knowing that Casey did something to Caylee and they are trying to protect Casey. It would be a cold day in he$$ that I would do that for one of my kids.

[Lostgirl]

thanks. i hope we get the rest later today.

yes I'm sure it will probably be out sometime later today :)

On TV last night (I think it was Nancy grace show) they said something about how they give it to the defense as discovery and then it is released but they have to go through it and remove certain personal information before it's actually available to the public so that takes a little time to process (maybe stuff like acct numbers? or maybe personal addresses, phone numbers? I'm not exactly sure, just speculating and i guess that takes a bit of time when you're dealing with hundreds and hundreds of pages)

[Lostgirl]

I'm in complete agreement with everything you said bobbiAngel

I know hindsight is 20/20 as i posted earlier... but they knew enough of caseys lying, scheming, thieving ways to know that she wasnt fit to be looking after that child and they should have filed for custody and if it pisses casey off so be it .... at least Caylee would be safe and that's the main thing since she is too little to protect herself.

in that type of situation you have to step in and like you said... if casey doesnt like it well thats just too bad, she'll either get over it or she won't and you really don't have a choice in the matter... a childs well being is at stake and that supercedes all other considerations.

JMO but i think they could have just told Casey that they were going to keep her and if she didnt like it or tried to fight it they would have her arrested for credit card fraud.
They could tell her she was welcome to visit Caylee as much as she wanted and spend time with her but they were going to keep physical custody of her.

the worst that would happen is casey would freak out and say no and they call the cops and have her arrested for the thousands of dollars she stole from them.

it's all so sad i hate to think of poor little Caylee, helpless and in the hands of Casey, the mother from hell :flamemad:

[Shellberry]

Hi Boxer Mom,

Just finished Amy's statement (2:00 AM here - best get to bed huh). Did you catch it when Amy said Tony told her Casey sent him a text message prior to her 1st arrest that if "they" don't find her (Caylee) she's going to spend eternity in jail. I think Amy's testimony was real and powerful and suggest everyone take the time to read it.

This is where they talk about Caylee going to the "clothes optional" party, and Casey sleeping in the same bed with another guy, but says she took her (Caylee) home, then came back.

More squirrel talk, and she even told Amy that her car smelled like someone died in it.

If this is just the icing on the cake, I think we can expect an arrest soon.

Night!

oh man, I havent gotten that far yet. I'll definately be reading it.
I stopped with the lee interview for tonight.
it's 5 am here, Im heading out.

I need to get cracking on these before the rest of the docs come out.

what Im doing this time though that I didnt do last time, is noting the crazy things as I go along so I dont have to go back and reread.


imo/jmo

[Shellberry]

HAH - they're doing a really bad job so far. I think I caught at least 4-5 personal phone numbers in what I've read so far. You would think they could do a bit better than that!

Night all...

Im pretty sure if they are listed publicly in the phone book-they dont need to block phone numbers or addys out (It is already public info)


imo/jmo

[Lostgirl]

HAH - they're doing a really bad job so far. I think I caught at least 4-5 personal phone numbers in what I've read so far. You would think they could do a bit better than that!

Night all...

ya i dunno,,, thats what they said on the show (not sure if it was NG or something i saw on Fox)

The only thing that i could think of in the way of personal info might be acct #'s, phone numbers? maybe ID information like SIN #'s and stuff... like i said i was just guessing at what it might be that they remove for the public version?

I'd be interested in knowing what they meant by that if anyone knows?

:)

[SavannahStar]

True, very true. I just wouldn't want the thousands of people reading these transcripts to see em. There's bound to be a nutter out there who's already dialing :( It just makes it so much easier to connect the name and number at the same time without having to do an internet search. But that's just my opinion :)

Best,


Someone posted way earlier yesterday that in the state of FL it is not required to redact that information. I live in FL and I have no idea if that is true or not, but just thought I'd mention that someone posted that.

[SavannahStar]

I've never him use the term "centralized" but, at my son's wedding, I did notice that he and his firefighter buddies tended to say "absolutely" instead of plain old "yes" and "not at all" instead of "no." I just thought I was out of the latest "language loop!"


Using the word "absolutely" in that manner is very commonplace.

[SavannahStar]

I was surprised when Ricardo said Casey told him Zenita's (Zenaida) name when they first started dating in February.

*snipped*

I found that very interesting as well.