Monday morning 9/22

[jammies]

Morning kids.

:rose: For Caylee and all who love her.

[jammies]

Not sure if this is live but here's the webcam:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[martha]

I think casey has something worse than pp. I think she has always been got out of her troubles by her p's and she thinks she can get out of this and she may get out of it but none of us will ever forget littlw CAYLEE.THAT IS FOR SURE.:rose:

[GrannyB]

Thanks. The one I was watching was all black screen


Is that the side of their house? I haven't seen that angle before.

[GrannyB]

And LP said that Casey said if he bailed her out she would lead him to Caylee. He drove her around for 9 days and she kept changing her stories and embellishing. She showed no concern no emotions and her behavior was carefree and upbeat.


I bet if Casey was with Jesse for a while he could find out what happened.

[chrissybot]

I think casey has something worse than pp. I think she has always been got out of her troubles by her p's and she thinks she can get out of this and she may get out of it but none of us will ever forget littlw CAYLEE.THAT IS FOR SURE.:rose:
TY Jammies. I think your right Martha. I have 4 kids & only had PPD with the 1st & it only lasted a few weeks. I have never heard of it lasting for 3 years. Casey is just crazy-IMO

[chrissybot]

Sorry, forgot to add, good morning everyone:seeya:
:rose:Caylee

[GrannyB]

Is that light always glaring on their house?


I still can't figure out what we are looking at. The only thing that looks familar is the crime scene tape.:)

[GrannyB]

I don't think so. Casey dumped him, remember?

I think Jesse is the only person who ever cared about Casey and I bet she knows it.

[Lostgirl]

I still can't figure out what we are looking at. The only thing that looks familar is the crime scene tape.:)

it's the front of the house looking from the street

the garage is on the far left

[GrannyB]

it's the front of the house looking from the street

the garage is on the far left

Thank you. I can see it now. How dumb can I be.:biggrin:

[GrannyB]

Well she had her chance with Jesse and she blew it for whatever strange reason she had. They were engaged 4 months. She could have started a life with him .

Jesse said Cindy never liked him. Cindy won again and Casey lost. :flamemad:

[Lostgirl]

Thank you. I can see it now. How dumb can I be.:biggrin:

heehee! I couldn't figure it out either until i recognized the roofline of the garage, then it quickly came into perspective for me :)

[GrannyB]

it's the front of the house looking from the street

the garage is on the far left

It would be nice if some rich person would arrange to have a hologram of Caylee and her great grandpa right on their garage door.

[martha]

I think Jesse is the only person who ever cared about Casey and I bet she knows it.
ITA he really loved casey but I think there was to much good stuff going on in jesse's house for her. From the way his dad talks and jesse to she would have had to do some major changing in her life style to marry jesse and be a part of that family. I know they all loved caylee. jmho:rose:

[GrannyB]

You're right again granny. I forgot about that. So much to absorb about this case, I tend to forget things


I'm not going to lie. Cindy has had bells going off in my head from day one. She reminds me of my ex-fil. And his growm children remind me of Casey. I never thought I'd see something like that again and I really think I am.:(

[GrannyB]

The camera angle just changed again. I wish they would find a good spot and leave it alone. :cuss:

I want streaming video. I know Fox can afford it.

[MyrDawn]

Maybe they have the camera focused on Casey's bedroom window in case she makes a run for it:D

I heard a couple days ago that the neighbor across the street from the A's is no longer letting the media on his property and even put up that yellow tape himself, like the Anthony's.

If that's true, the web cam angles won't be from straight in front of the house any longer.

JMO

[GrannyB]

I heard a couple days ago that the neighbor across the street from the A's is no longer letting the media on his property and even put up that yellow tape himself, like the Anthony's.

If that's true, the web cam angles won't be from straight in front of the house any longer.

JMO

Maybe the protestors scared him. It was getting out of hand and someone was going to get hurt.

[Lostgirl]

I think Casey dumped jessie because she was bored of their life

He said she went to work each day and when she got home they'd either relax or go out to a movie... that is NOT Caseys idea of a good time

Marriage to Jessie means she doesn't get to hit the bars in dresses up to her a__ and wiggle against another bimbo while the guys holler for more!

partying to Casey is like oxygen to the rest of us! :mad:

jmo

[martha]

Jesse said Cindy never liked him. Cindy won again and Casey lost. :flamemad: ITA I don;t think cindy would like anyone that was going to take casey away from her. I think cindy wanted to be in control of casey all the time. When she had casey and caylee in her home she had control. That is the reason casey left home to get away from her mother and daddy. She was also trying to hurt them by taking caylee with her. Why casey did not leave caylee with them I will never understand.jmho:rose:

[GrannyB]

I think Casey dumped jessie because she was bored of their life

He said she went to work each day and when she got home they'd either relax or go out to a movie... that is NOT Caseys idea of a good time

Marriage to Jessie means she doesn't get to hit the bars in dresses up to her a__ and wiggle against another bimbo while the guys holler for more!

partying to Casey is like oxygen to the rest of us! :mad:

jmo

But it wasn't when she was with Jesse. Cindy didn't want Jesse in Casey life. She would lose control of her and she will never let that happen and I don't think Casey is strongt enough to break away.

[GrannyB]

ITA I don;t think cindy would like anyone that was going to take casey away from her. I think cindy wanted to be in control of casey all the time. When she had casey and caylee in her home she had control. That is the reason casey left home to get away from her mother and daddy. She was also trying to hurt them by taking caylee with her. Why casey did not leave caylee with them I will never understand.jmho:rose:

Morning Martha. I don't think we really know if Caylee did leave with Casey. Only one who has said so is George and he's an Anthony so he lies.

[martha]

TY Jammies. I think your right Martha. I have 4 kids & only had PPD with the 1st & it only lasted a few weeks. I have never heard of it lasting for 3 years. Casey is just crazy-IMO I feel so sorry for you but I am glad it did not last long. I am sure you can tell everyone had bad it feels to have it tho. If the doc warned me not to have anymore then I sure would not have anymore. I love my children with all my heart but being depressed is awful. I don;t think casey is depressed. jmho:rose:

[GrandmaGA]

And LP said that Casey said if he bailed her out she would lead him to Caylee. He drove her around for 9 days and she kept changing her stories and embellishing. She showed no concern no emotions and her behavior was carefree and upbeat.


He made something up again? An obvious lie as she had the bracelet and had to get permission to go anywhere. She went to her lawyers office and to check in. She did not ride around with LP. Do you have a link of this new revelation that he drove her around?

[GrannyB]

Since Jesse Grund is again being discussed tonight, I want to bring up something he said last night. When asked by Geraldo if he had ever met Zenaida, he stated that he hadn't met her, but that Casey had mentioned her. If Jesse hadn't acknowledged her I wouldn't even be going here, but.........

Casey and Jesse only dated from Dec '05 to May '06, and for a breif time in November '07. If Casey had just made up Zenaida as part of her statement to police, then why would she have been talking about her to Jesse clear back then before caylee ever disappeared?

I live in a County of a certain Sate where illegal immigrants are a HUGE problem. Here, there are over 10,000 active warrants for people in this County alone. Some immigrants commit crimes, are booked into jail under one name, and change it as soon as they are released and never show up to court. People here are able to change identities like they change underwear. You can buy SS numbers at the local flea market.

My point is, maybe Zanny was real to Casey at one time. Maybe Zanny babysat children, because as an illegal immigrant, she could not get legitimate employment somewhere else. Maybe that is why law enforcement and others can't find her to talk to her.

Do I believe that Zanny did take Caylee? No.
Do I believe that Zanny may have been another innocent person who crossed paths with Casey at one point in time? Yes.
__________________

I posted this last night, and no one commented on it. Do any of you have any thoughts on the above?

I think a lot of what Casey says has some truth. I think most of what Casey says is what Cindy put in the script for all the Anthony's to say. I know is angers Cindy when they don't get it right.

[martha]

Morning Martha. I don't think we really know if Caylee did leave with Casey. Only one who has said so is George and he's an Anthony so he lies.
good morning grannyb Ita i don;t believe ga he just sayes what they want him to say. I really think they all know what happened to caylee just trying to save casey;s behind,jmho:rose:

[MyrDawn]

Maybe the protestors scared him. It was getting out of hand and someone was going to get hurt.

I finally found an article about it. This one I hadn't seen before and goes into more detail about why he taped off his yard, too:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7416565&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

Both the media and protestors turned his grass into mud and littered badly. He even planted 4 new trees to keep the media trucks off his grass.

[jammies]

I think a lot of what Casey says has some truth. I think most of what Casey says is what Cindy put in the script for all the Anthony's to say. I know is angers Cindy when they don't get it right.


Remember the interview with GVS on the couch? Cindy with her hand squeezing GA's leg while he told the gas can story?? When he's finally finished, she laughs....... as if relieved?

I always felt they came up with that story and when GA told it Cindy was nervous that he would screw up somehow.
When GA is done with his story she takes her hand off his leg.

[n/t]

Since Jesse Grund is again being discussed tonight, I want to bring up something he said last night. When asked by Geraldo if he had ever met Zenaida, he stated that he hadn't met her, but that Casey had mentioned her. If Jesse hadn't acknowledged her I wouldn't even be going here, but.........

Casey and Jesse only dated from Dec '05 to May '06, and for a breif time in November '07. If Casey had just made up Zenaida as part of her statement to police, then why would she have been talking about her to Jesse clear back then before caylee ever disappeared?

I live in a County of a certain Sate where illegal immigrants are a HUGE problem. Here, there are over 10,000 active warrants for people in this County alone. Some immigrants commit crimes, are booked into jail under one name, and change it as soon as they are released and never show up to court. People here are able to change identities like they change underwear. You can buy SS numbers at the local flea market.

My point is, maybe Zanny was real to Casey at one time. Maybe Zanny babysat children, because as an illegal immigrant, she could not get legitimate employment somewhere else. Maybe that is why law enforcement and others can't find her to talk to her.

Do I believe that Zanny did take Caylee? No.
Do I believe that Zanny may have been another innocent person who crossed paths with Casey at one point in time? Yes.
__________________

I posted this last night, and no one commented on it. Do any of you have any thoughts on the above?


I must say I didn't watch Geraldo so I'll take your word about Jesse saying Casey mentioned Zenaida.

IIRC, didn't he say in his sworn statements to police that she never mentioned that name. She did mention an English name,,,,,<don't recall the names he used>.

If I had time, I'd look it up but unfortunately I have to get ready for work.

If indeed Jesse is changing his story, why? Yesterday, I posted about my concerns with Jesse suddenly speaking up on these talk shows. I wish he would've stayed away. He may slip up and say something he'll regret later. IMO!

[GrannyB]

Remember the interview with GVS on the couch? Cindy with her hand squeezing GA's leg while he told the gas can story?? When he's finally finished, she laughs....... as if relieved?

I always felt they came up with that story and when GA told it Cindy was nervous that he would screw up somehow.
When GA is done with his story she takes her hand off his leg.

I remember. I have watched Cindy from the beginning.

[johnielee333]

:rose: for Caylee.

[GrannyB]

I must say I didn't watch Geraldo so I'll take your word about Jesse saying Casey mentioned Zenaida.

IIRC, didn't he say in his sworn statements to police that she never mentioned that name. She did mention an English name,,,,,<don't recall the names he used>.

If I had time, I'd look it up but unfortunately I have to get ready for work.

If indeed Jesse is changing his story, why? Yesterday, I posted about my concerns with Jesse suddenly speaking up on these talk shows. I wish he would've stayed away. He may slip up and say something he'll regret later. IMO!

I just caught the end of Jesse on Geraldo but I believe everythng he said. I didn't hear the part about Zanny.

[GrandmaGA]

His brother said it on the DR P show today
Another one wants his 15 minutes by lying.

[GrannyB]

Didn't someone say that Laura Rose was the sitter? Who btw turn out to be another non-exisetent person.


I think I remember the name but I don't remember who she is or what she did.

[jammies]

Just finished the thread at WS with exit 13.

Sure wish one of her GF's would talk. No use talking to guys that she partied with as they have no idea other than she was fun, nice, blah blah. Typical guys!

GF's would dish the dirt!

[johnielee333]

Jesse Grund did not tell Geraldo that he heard casey say Zenaida's name. Jesse Grund told Geraldo that he had heard casey use the name zanny as being the nanny. go listen to it again. sorry i dont have a link.

[jammies]

I think I remember the name but I don't remember who she is or what she did.



Wasn't it a "Lauren" NOT Laura Rose?

[Margo555]

Morning Martha. I don't think we really know if Caylee did leave with Casey. Only one who has said so is George and he's an Anthony so he lies.

Good morning everyone. :-)
You know Granny, that is a good thought really. If we are to go just by the facts we know, we have no idea that Caylee did leave with Casey. I don't believe that anyone saw Caylee after the 15th. when she was on that tape with her GGr. did they? So we are just going by Cindy's 911 call. And that's scary because we know and have seen her change stories mid stride just like Casey. Another avenue to ponder anyway. MOO

[MyrDawn]

The media or the protestors? as far as I could see the media was pretty respectful about stepping on the lawns. They know thats private property. But I have been wrong about things before.

BTW I luv your little note about broken pc & clean house. It reminds me to get off my butt and do some chores . I could be the next case you'll all be reading about. ;) I am glued to this case.

At the link I gave it said both media and protestors. He said the news live trucks and tents have turned his grass into mud. But, he also said
the protestors were worse and even leaned against his house. And both protesters and the media have been walking on his lawn. And, he said if you look in his bushes, there's chewing gum, cigarette butts, and candy wrappers.

[GrannyB]

Good morning everyone. :-)
You know Granny, that is a good thought really. If we are to go just by the facts we know, we have no idea that Caylee did leave with Casey. I don't believe that anyone saw Caylee after the 15th. when she was on that tape with her GGr. did they? So we are just going by Cindy's 911 call. And that's scary because we know and have seen her change stories mid stride just like Casey. Another avenue to ponder anyway. MOO

I have been waiting for someone to speak up that had seen her after the 15th. I don't believer there is anyone.

[Regina.Lampert]

98 Days - Where Is Caylee?

Good morning everyone! N/T, during Jesse's interview he said casey told him about "Zanny" the nanny, she never mentioned anyone by the name of Zenaida. I still believe Zanny was in reference to the drug zanax.

[jammies]

I think I remember the name but I don't remember who she is or what she did.



Post #310


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71620&highlight=exit&page=13

[MyrDawn]

Good morning everyone. :-)
You know Granny, that is a good thought really. If we are to go just by the facts we know, we have no idea that Caylee did leave with Casey. I don't believe that anyone saw Caylee after the 15th. when she was on that tape with her GGr. did they? So we are just going by Cindy's 911 call. And that's scary because we know and have seen her change stories mid stride just like Casey. Another avenue to ponder anyway. MOO

IMO, by admitting that she gave Caylee to Zenaida and couldn't find her for 31 days, Casey admitted she did take Caylee with her. I don't think she'd say that if she'd left Caylee at her parents house when she left there.

JMO

[johnielee333]

I must say I didn't watch Geraldo so I'll take your word about Jesse saying Casey mentioned Zenaida.

IIRC, didn't he say in his sworn statements to police that she never mentioned that name. She did mention an English name,,,,,<don't recall the names he used>.

If I had time, I'd look it up but unfortunately I have to get ready for work.

If indeed Jesse is changing his story, why? Yesterday, I posted about my concerns with Jesse suddenly speaking up on these talk shows. I wish he would've stayed away. He may slip up and say something he'll regret later. IMO!

Jesse did not say Casey mentioned Zenaida. jesse said casey mentioned Zanny as being the nanny. she told him the name zanny.

[GrannyB]

IMO, by admitting that she gave Caylee to Zenaida and couldn't find her for 31 days, Casey admitted she did take Caylee with her. I don't think she'd say that if she'd left Caylee at her parents house when she left there.

JMO

I know I sound like a broken record but I believe Casey, George and Lee are following the script Cindy gave them.

[Lostgirl]

Since Jesse Grund is again being discussed tonight, I want to bring up something he said last night. When asked by Geraldo if he had ever met Zenaida, he stated that he hadn't met her, but that Casey had mentioned her. If Jesse hadn't acknowledged her I wouldn't even be going here, but.........

Casey and Jesse only dated from Dec '05 to May '06, and for a breif time in November '07. If Casey had just made up Zenaida as part of her statement to police, then why would she have been talking about her to Jesse clear back then before caylee ever disappeared?

I live in a County of a certain Sate where illegal immigrants are a HUGE problem. Here, there are over 10,000 active warrants for people in this County alone. Some immigrants commit crimes, are booked into jail under one name, and change it as soon as they are released and never show up to court. People here are able to change identities like they change underwear. You can buy SS numbers at the local flea market.

My point is, maybe Zanny was real to Casey at one time. Maybe Zanny babysat children, because as an illegal immigrant, she could not get legitimate employment somewhere else. Maybe that is why law enforcement and others can't find her to talk to her.

Do I believe that Zanny did take Caylee? No.
Do I believe that Zanny may have been another innocent person who crossed paths with Casey at one point in time? Yes.
__________________

I posted this last night, and no one commented on it. Do any of you have any thoughts on the above?


I totally agree

Have you seen the movie "The Usual Suspects"?

In the movie when Kevin Spacey is being interogated he uses items in the room to help spin his tale.. (little things like maybe a newspaper clipping with a story about Mexico, he sees Mexico and uses that as where he was at the time of the crime, then maybe he sees a brand name on something so he takes that name and uses it to fill in another portion of his lie... etc etc etc
Finally the cop lets him leave, now the cop is sitting in the room alone and looks around ... after a few minutes he notices the newpaper clipping and the word MEXICO in bold lettering, then he sees an item with the brand name and realizes thats the name he was given to explain something else... and on and on until the cop sees that everything he said is right in that room!

By now Kevin Spacey is long gone :chicken: and the cop realizes he was duped!

I'm sure the name zanida didnt fall out of the sky

I think she either heard that name somewhere or saw that name or even more likely knew someone with that name

[GrannyB]

IMO, by admitting that she gave Caylee to Zenaida and couldn't find her for 31 days, Casey admitted she did take Caylee with her. I don't think she'd say that if she'd left Caylee at her parents house when she left there.

JMO

One more thing. Jesse said when he talked to Casey after the 15 she sounded like Casey, business as usual. The Casey he is seeing now is nothing like that Casey. I believe Jesse.

[MyrDawn]

I know I sound like a broken record but I believe Casey, George and Lee are following the script Cindy gave them.

I don't. I just don't think Cindy would have called 911 and reported Caylee missing if she'd had anything to do with it, or knew Casey or George had. Especially the remark about the dead body smell in the car.

I can't think of any reason she'd want to alert the LE, when they could easily have just lied to anyone that asked where Caylee was and told them she was at her daddys.

[MyrDawn]

One more thing. Jesse said when he talked to Casey after the 15 she sounded like Casey, business as usual. The Casey he is seeing now is nothing like that Casey. I believe Jesse.

The Casey he's seeing now is facing some serious prison time...not exactly business as usual.

JMO

[Lostgirl]

Jesse Grund did not tell Geraldo that he heard casey say Zenaida's name. Jesse Grund told Geraldo that he had heard casey use the name zanny as being the nanny. go listen to it again. sorry i dont have a link.

yep you're right, I just watched that video a couple hours ago and jesse says that casey told him her nannies name was Zanny

[Margo555]

IMO, by admitting that she gave Caylee to Zenaida and couldn't find her for 31 days, Casey admitted she did take Caylee with her. I don't think she'd say that if she'd left Caylee at her parents house when she left there.

JMO

Hmmmm, when was the very next time that someone saw Casey after she supposedly left the house on the 15th or 16th other than the family? Did Tony see her on the night of the 16th and was he the first one to see her after her supposely leaving that day? I can't remember.

[cassidy]

Casey claims Zanny had only been keeping Caylee for a year and a half..yet she mentioned 'Zanny' to Jesse back in what 2006? This girl needs help keeping her lies straight.

I didn't see Geraldo. did Jesse actually say WHEN Casey mentioned the name Zanny to him? Was it recently or a long time ago? It sounds as though she kept in touch with him. If she said it in a recent phone call, it doesn't mean much.

[SavannahStar]

I don't. I just don't think Cindy would have called 911 and reported Caylee missing if she'd had anything to do with it, or knew Casey or George had. Especially the remark about the dead body smell in the car.

I can't think of any reason she'd want to alert the LE, when they could easily have just lied to anyone that asked where Caylee was and told them she was at her daddys.

I agree. Good morning MyrDawn and all!

[GrannyB]

I don't. I just don't think Cindy would have called 911 and reported Caylee missing if she'd had anything to do with it, or knew Casey or George had. Especially the remark about the dead body smell in the car.

I can't think of any reason she'd want to alert the LE, when they could easily have just lied to anyone that asked where Caylee was and told them she was at her daddys.

I think for the first time in her life Cindy was in fear of losing control over Casey and the first 911 call was to bluff Casey. Probably the second one too. When she found Lee in the bedroom and Casey crying it could because Lee told Casey what had happened to Caylee and what they were going to say. Maybe at first Casey wouldn't agree to go along and Cindy threw Casey under the bus with the 3rd 9ll call. First two calls she was more worried about money and a car than Caylee. Last call she covered her own butt.

[Regina.Lampert]

I totally agree

Have you seen the movie "The Usual Suspects"?

In the movie when Kevin Spacey is being interogated he uses items in the room to help spin his tale.. (little things like maybe a newspaper clipping with a story about Mexico, he sees Mexico and uses that as where he was at the time of the crime, then maybe he sees a brand name on something so he takes that name and uses it to fill in another portion of his lie... etc etc etc
Finally the cop lets him leave, now the cop is sitting in the room alone and looks around ... after a few minutes he notices the newpaper clipping and the word MEXICO in bold lettering, then he sees an item with the brand name and realizes thats the name he was given to explain something else... and on and on until the cop sees that everything he said is right in that room!

By now Kevin Spacey is long gone :chicken: and the cop realizes he was duped!

I'm sure the name zanida didnt fall out of the sky

I think she either heard that name somewhere or saw that name or even more likely knew someone with that name


Great film. Very early on in this case we discussed the "Keyser Söze" aspects of this case. casey anthony very much mirrors what the main character did in that film I believe. In this case however, the cops are on to her, thank God!!

[MyrDawn]

I agree. Good morning MyrDawn and all!

Morning! :seeya:
You got here just in time so see me leaving. Time to help kiddo get ready for school and take her.

I don't think Cindy is so stupid as to alert the LE about Caylee's disappearance if she had any idea Casey (or George or herself) had done something horrible with her. It doesn't make sense to me.

JMO

[johnielee333]

Yes...but Casey called Zenaida "Zanny"..so it would be the same make up person.

yeah but at the time she told jesse about the name zanny, there was no Zenaida.

[Lostgirl]

His brother said it on the DR P show today

yep IRCC Padila said he drove Casey around for 9 days while she provided one BS location after another

[johnielee333]

I didn't see Geraldo. did Jesse actually say WHEN Casey mentioned the name Zanny to him? Was it recently or a long time ago? It sounds as though she kept in touch with him. If she said it in a recent phone call, it doesn't mean much.

it was at the end of 2007.

[Margo555]

Great film. Very early on in this case we discussed the "Keyser Söze" aspects of this case. casey anthony very much mirrors what the main character did in that film I believe. In this case however, the cops are on to her, thank God!!

That was a good movie and lots of similarities. MOO

[GrannyB]

Morning! :seeya:
You got here just in time so see me leaving. Time to help kiddo get ready for school and take her.

I don't think Cindy is so stupid as to alert the LE about Caylee's disappearance if she had any idea Casey (or George or herself) had done something horrible with her. It doesn't make sense to me.

JMO

Nothing the Anthony's are doing makes sense. Why would the 911 call be any different?

[Lostgirl]

Great film. Very early on in this case we discussed the "Keyser Söze" aspects of this case. casey anthony very much mirrors what the main character did in that film I believe. In this case however, the cops are on to her, thank God!!

ohhh okay... I didn't know it was discussed!

and yes she seems just as strange as the fake crippled character in the movie

thanks for the info! :)

[mosey2]

I didn't see Geraldo. did Jesse actually say WHEN Casey mentioned the name Zanny to him? Was it recently or a long time ago? It sounds as though she kept in touch with him. If she said it in a recent phone call, it doesn't mean much.
Grund didnt say. I know because I was screaming at Geraldo, "ASK HIM WHEN! ASK HIM WHEN!!"

He didnt. I think he still has gulf water sloshing in his brain

[GrannyB]

yep IRCC Padila said he drove Casey around for 9 days while she provided one BS location after another

Didn't he say at first he only talked to her once? I guess he's been around them too long. He seems to have picked up the lying habit lately.

[cassidy]

it was at the end of 2007.

Thanks. I guess he gave a date then. That's interesting.

[Regina.Lampert]

I know I sound like a broken record but I believe Casey, George and Lee are following the script Cindy gave them.

I'm with you. I'm not sure who's writing the script but I definely think there is one. It is still bothering me that they all told LE that June 9th was the last time any of them saw Caylee. I will NEVER believe that was a mistake.

[Lostgirl]

it was at the end of 2007.

yep Jesse said a date in november of 2007(I think it might have been the 9th)

[marshmallow]

Since Jesse Grund is again being discussed tonight, I want to bring up something he said last night. When asked by Geraldo if he had ever met Zenaida, he stated that he hadn't met her, but that Casey had mentioned her. If Jesse hadn't acknowledged her I wouldn't even be going here, but.........

Casey and Jesse only dated from Dec '05 to May '06, and for a breif time in November '07. If Casey had just made up Zenaida as part of her statement to police, then why would she have been talking about her to Jesse clear back then before caylee ever disappeared?

I live in a County of a certain Sate where illegal immigrants are a HUGE problem. Here, there are over 10,000 active warrants for people in this County alone. Some immigrants commit crimes, are booked into jail under one name, and change it as soon as they are released and never show up to court. People here are able to change identities like they change underwear. You can buy SS numbers at the local flea market.

My point is, maybe Zanny was real to Casey at one time. Maybe Zanny babysat children, because as an illegal immigrant, she could not get legitimate employment somewhere else. Maybe that is why law enforcement and others can't find her to talk to her.

Do I believe that Zanny did take Caylee? No.
Do I believe that Zanny may have been another innocent person who crossed paths with Casey at one point in time? Yes.
__________________

I posted this last night, and no one commented on it. Do any of you have any thoughts on the above?




I believe he said she mentioned"Zanny" but not a "Zenaida" and she might have picked up the name "Zanny" from that book about the nanny.
I think he also said she only mentioned "Zanny" last December.

Good morning. I've only gotten as far on this thread as what I'm replying to, so if it's been said I'm sorry.

[Margo555]

I don't think the guy on WS last night added anything to the case. I don't think he knew her only from attending his parties. He never saw Caylee once other than at her birthday party, that's it. And said that Casey never discussed her in front of him. When asked where he would look he said the landfill and then changed it to water and alligators. That just about covers all of Florida. ;-) jmho

[Lostgirl]

Didn't he say at first he only talked to her once? I guess he's been around them too long. He seems to have picked up the lying habit lately.

that's what I thought but now he's saying she led him around on a wild goose chase that amounted to nothing :confused:

[GrandmaGA]

yep IRCC Padila said he drove Casey around for 9 days while she provided one BS location after another


Did he eleberate how he drove around with her while she was at her laywers office and while she was under house arrest? :rolleyes:

[concerned]

Morning all....

Got a new parttime job now that the last child is in school, so I'm not around as much. :tongue:

Which means I have to sneak on for a few minutes BEFORE I go, lol.

Found this article interesting over on the links forum....

http://www.statementanalysis.com/cases/

[jammies]

I don't think the guy on WS last night added anything to the case. I don't think he knew her only from attending his parties. He never saw Caylee once other than at her birthday party, that's it. And said that Casey never discussed her in front of him. When asked where he would look he said the landfill and then changed it to water and alligators. That just about covers all of Florida. ;-) jmho



I wrote almost the same thing earlier. WS needs to get one of her GF's to come chat. Guys don't know anything.

[Lostgirl]

Whats on this cam? :shrug:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

to me it looks like a sheriffs building or something because of the big gold star :shrug:

[jammies]

camera angle finally on garage....where all the activity happens. They may as well not even have a front door.

[GrandmaGA]

that's what I thought but now he's saying she led him around on a wild goose chase that amounted to nothing :confused:
When did he lie amd who is lying? LP did NOT drive her around at all.

[Lostgirl]

Did he eleberate how he drove around with her while she was at her laywers office and while she was under house arrest? :rolleyes:

not that i recall... all i remember is him saying he drove her around for a bunch of days (I think the number he said was 9)

the only other thing I can think of is he meant to say Cindy and said Casey by mistake?

[Margo555]

I wouldnt believe LP if he was presenting proof as he said it. That man lies and lies and lies some more. He should be an Anthony himself.

He said all Casey ever said to him was thanks. Said she never spoke to him again. Casey didnt leave the house with him. The cam was on that house and had she left we'd of all seen it. The news media would have followed. Caseys attorney wouldmnt have allowed that. LP needs muzzled.

If LP said that, he must be smoking funny cigarettes. :D He didn't meet her until she was out on bond that first day and she couldn't leave the house without permission only to her lawyer's and church and a job and her case worker at the jail or her dr.. I never heard she went anywhere with him to look for her nanny's place. MOO

[GrandmaGA]

I wouldnt believe LP if he was presenting proof as he said it. That man lies and lies and lies some more. He should be an Anthony himself.

He said all Casey ever said to him was thanks. Said she never spoke to him again. Casey didnt leave the house with him. The cam was on that house and had she left we'd of all seen it. The news media would have followed. Caseys attorney wouldmnt have allowed that. LP needs muzzled.
ITA. IMO he should be charged with obstruction of justice with all his lies and changing theories.

[GrandmaGA]

I thought is initial interviews on NG he said that Casey didn't thank him. Did he change his story, again?

Yep, he changes his story more than he changes his socks.

[Margo555]

I thought is initial interviews on NG he said that Casey didn't thank him. Did he change his story, again?

Yep, first he said she didn't, then later he said she did. :rolleyes:

[GrannyB]

ITA. IMO he should be charged with obstruction of justice with all his lies and changing theories.



I do too. Right along with all the Anthony's

[jammies]

Did everyone see this:

Trust Fund Shut Down

http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html?rss=orl&psp=news



gotta love how they blame TES :cuss:

[GrandmaGA]

I do too. Right along with all the Anthony's

Good idea, then maybe the leaks and stories will quit and some truth will come out.

[FrankieBones1]

Morning kids.

:rose: For Caylee and all who love her.Morning to you, too!
Was hoping to see a presser from TES but that was just a rumor. I'm thinking it started with Leonard Padilla for some reason.

[FrankieBones1]

Yep, he changes his story more than he changes his socks.

I believe he is a confused man and he more than likely gets all his ideas from this board or WS.

[GrannyB]

Did everyone see this:

Trust Fund Shut Down

http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html?rss=orl&psp=news



gotta love how they blame TES :cuss:

two emails and they shut it down? I'm not buying that's the reason.

[FrankieBones1]

CAM 2
I can't read the sign on the awning but the icon in the centre looks like a sherrif's badge.

[Lostgirl]

I do too. Right along with all the Anthony's

I wish i could remember the name of the youtube i watched him saying it on

I watched it a couple hours ago and it was a male news anchor questiioning padilla and the guy is giving Padilla a bit of a hard time about Padilla originally defending casey and saying she couldnt have done it and now he says the opposite

I think the News guy asked Padilla what made him change his mind or something and that's when Padilla sited the fact that he drove her around for days while she took him on a wild goose chase as one of the reasons he no longer believes her.

[jbellaj]

Did everyone see this:

Trust Fund Shut Down

http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html?rss=orl&psp=news



gotta love how they blame TES :cuss:


There's something more to this story IMO. What about the so called defense fund they were going to start, has there been anything on that?

[Ladyhawk]

I'm with you. I'm not sure who's writing the script but I definely think there is one. It is still bothering me that they all told LE that June 9th was the last time any of them saw Caylee. I will NEVER believe that was a mistake.

I believe the only mistake made concerning the 9th was made by Casey. She was supposed to say that on the 9th she left her with Z and picked her up...in fact, that entire week Z kept her and nothing was out of the ordinary. Then on the 16th when she left her would be when she didn't get her back.

By saying everything was OK the week of the 9th, it lends more credibility to there actually being a person Casey left her with. There's the video of a live Caylee on the 15th to back up this story. I believe they were trying to set up this week to bolster this nanny story.

I do believe that the night of the 15th/16th when the investigators were there and everyone was being questioned, the A's heard Casey make the mistake of saying she left her on the 9th and returned to pick her up and she wasn't there. At that point, they all went with the 9th to make their stories jive. jmo

[GrannyB]

CAM 2
I can't read the sign on the awning but the icon in the centre looks like a sherrif's badge.

Does it say something Correctional Facility?

[Margo555]

I wish i could remember the name of the youtube i watched him saying it on

I watched it a couple hours ago and it was a male news anchor questiioning padilla and the guy is giving Padilla a bit of a hard time about Padilla originally defending casey and saying she couldnt have done it and now he says the opposite

I think the News guy asked Padilla what made him change his mind or something and that's when Padilla sited the fact that he drove her around for days while she took him on a wild goose chase as one of the reasons he no longer believes her.

Lenny must have caught the lying bug from the Anthonys. Seems to be very contagious around there. :D MOO

[Regina.Lampert]

not that i recall... all i remember is him saying he drove her around for a bunch of days (I think the number he said was 9)

the only other thing I can think of is he meant to say Cindy and said Casey by mistake?

IIRC, Leonard said that when he tried to question casey anthony and she started down the Zanny kidnap road he told her to stop lying to him and she told him to get out of HER house. That was his last contact with Miss Gratitude.

[VII]

I don't. I just don't think Cindy would have called 911 and reported Caylee missing if she'd had anything to do with it, or knew Casey or George had. Especially the remark about the dead body smell in the car.

I can't think of any reason she'd want to alert the LE, when they could easily have just lied to anyone that asked where Caylee was and told them she was at her daddys.

:beer:

Cindy's 911 tapes were her true/raw emotion.
After LE started talking to Casey, she semi-realized what was happening.
omo

[anyonesguess]

to me it looks like a sheriffs building or something because of the big gold star :shrug:

It has 2 names and Correctional Facility I think.

I just saw what apprears to be an offender in a jump suit imo, maybe like a trustee.

[GrandmaGA]

GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Let's start with Casey, how does that work for you"GrandmaGA"? JMO
Sure it works for me as Casey is already charged.

[FrankieBones1]

Does it say something Correctional Facility?

That must be it.

[anyonesguess]

Whats on this cam? :shrug:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

John E. Polk Correctional Facility in Seminole County FL.

[VII]

Because Casey's cell phone records clearly indicate that there were no phone calls to or from anyone resembling Zanny, can we not safely assume there was NO Zanny involved in the disappearance?? Where ELSE could she be?

Turning the page ...
NEXT

Exit13 suggested looking for Caylee near a landfill.
What on earth would make him say that?

[Fallen Angel]

ITA. IMO he should be charged with obstruction of justice with all his lies and changing theories.
IF LP should be charged for obstruction and all his lies they would have to arrest George, Cindy and Lee :shrug:

[GrandmaGA]

IF LP should be charged for obstruction and all his lies they would have to arrest George, Cindy and Lee :shrug:

And? Is that a probem for you?

[GrannyB]

IF LP should be charged for obstruction and all his lies they would have to arrest George, Cindy and Lee :shrug:

Sounds good to me.

[Lostgirl]

Lenny must have caught the lying bug from the Anthonys. Seems to be very contagious around there. :D MOO


okay i can't find the youtube but i just checked out Dr Phils site and it says:

"Then, bounty hunters Leonard Padilla and Rob Dick say they helped bail Casey out of jail after she agreed to help them find her daughter. Rob says he drove Casey around in search of Caylee for nine days, and what he claims he observed might surprise you."

heres the link

http://www.drphil.com/shows/

I'm sure in the youtube i watched it was LP who said he drove her around (maybe they both drove her around?)

[FrankieBones1]

In case anyone missed Jesse on Geraldo last night...It was not a repeat.

Here is a post from last night's thread:

09-21-2008, 10:51 PM
?noanswer
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,692

Jessie - clear up last night. He was not defending Casey as she is now. He was talking about how she was when he knew her. She was a very outgoing person, really liked Caylee. Now she is an emotionless person. JMO

[bluwaters]

Please light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to begin

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[GrandmaGA]

You know EXACTLY what I meant, why the obvious spin into a different area of this crime "GrandmaGA"? The ONLY TRUTH Caylee deserves can only come from Casey. But you know that.JMO

She's only been charged with being a thief so far.

Really, she was only charged with being a thief? When did they drop the child neglect and filing a false report charges?

[FrankieBones1]

okay i can't find the youtube but i just checked out Dr Phils site and it says:
(snipped a bit)http://www.drphil.com/shows/

)
From your link:
A snippet-
Now considered a person of interest by authorities, is Casey a pathological liar with something to hide, an irresponsible 22-year-old or is something else going on? Then, Casey claims she was out searching for her daughter on her own, but pictures of her partying at a local club surfaced shortly after Caylee vanished. Were those photos taken before Caylee's birth as Casey's father claims? Lisa Bloom, renowned legal analyst and host of TruTv’s In Session, explains what a jury might think. Next, meet two local residents and find out why one believes Casey is innocent, while the other is convinced of her guilt Then, bounty hunters Leonard Padilla and Rob Dick say they helped bail Casey out of jail after she agreed to help them find her daughter.

[Lostgirl]

From your link:
A snippet-
Now considered a person of interest by authorities, is Casey a pathological liar with something to hide, an irresponsible 22-year-old or is something else going on? Then, Casey claims she was out searching for her daughter on her own, but pictures of her partying at a local club surfaced shortly after Caylee vanished. Were those photos taken before Caylee's birth as Casey's father claims? Lisa Bloom, renowned legal analyst and host of TruTv’s In Session, explains what a jury might think. Next, meet two local residents and find out why one believes Casey is innocent, while the other is convinced of her guilt Then, bounty hunters Leonard Padilla and Rob Dick say they helped bail Casey out of jail after she agreed to help them find her daughter.

yep and the very next sentence is about Rob saying he drove her around for 9 days

[jbellaj]

John E. Polk Correctional Facility in Seminole County FL.

Casey has an appointment this morning with her home confinement officier..is that the same place the cam is on?

[VII]

Casey has an appointment this morning with her home confinement officier..is that the same place the cam is on?

Wouldn't the home confinement officer just come to the house?

[jbellaj]

IF LP should be charged for obstruction and all his lies they would have to arrest George, Cindy and Lee :shrug:

I agree with you completely. If anyone has hindered this investigation they are at the top of the list for me. JMO

[bchand]

And? Is that a probem for you?

I'm not Fallen Angel but it's not a problem for me.

[Margo555]

yep and the very next sentence is about Rob saying he drove her around for 9 days

Isn't that weird?? Makes me feel like I've been living in the Twilight Zone. :D

[jbellaj]

Wouldn't the home confinement officer just come to the house?


No she reports there every Monday.. Heres the link for today.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7480810&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Lostgirl]

Isn't that weird?? Makes me feel like I've been living in the Twilight Zone. :D

I've just begun to follow this case....

Is it 100% for sure that she wasn't allowed to leave her house with the bail bondsman?

I just can't figure out why they would say something as specific as driving her around for 9 days if she wasn't even allowed to step out the door and go anywhere with anyone???

[anyonesguess]

Casey has an appointment this morning with her home confinement officier..is that the same place the cam is on?


I doubt it jbella. That is in Seminole County, and I believe Casey reports to the Orange county confinement officer in that county.

[msgatorslayer]

I believe the only mistake made concerning the 9th was made by Casey. She was supposed to say that on the 9th she left her with Z and picked her up...in fact, that entire week Z kept her and nothing was out of the ordinary. Then on the 16th when she left her would be when she didn't get her back.

By saying everything was OK the week of the 9th, it lends more credibility to there actually being a person Casey left her with. There's the video of a live Caylee on the 15th to back up this story. I believe they were trying to set up this week to bolster this nanny story.

I do believe that the night of the 15th/16th when the investigators were there and everyone was being questioned, the A's heard Casey make the mistake of saying she left her on the 9th and returned to pick her up and she wasn't there. At that point, they all went with the 9th to make their stories jive. jmo

Morning, all!

I think the number 9 is one Casey just likes using, for whatever reason. She initially says the 9th is the last time she say her Daughter. She reported her phone missing to Universal 9 days ago. And I was looking through her myspace/facebook comments lastnight and notice that she commented to someone about '9 days'. Though, I forgot what she was talking about.

Maybe it's her lucky number! lol

This is a good theory you have about the date change, Lady. Just about everyone thinks its odd that all family members got the last day they seen Caylee, wrong, yet, all picked the same wrong date.

Personally, I think it would have been simple to recall that it was Father's Day and not give a date, period. They can't all reasonably and in good faith forget that it was a Holiday, IMO.

[GrandmaGA]

I've just begun to follow this case....

Is it 100% for sure that she wasn't allowed to leave her house with the bail bondsman?

I just can't figure out why they would say something as specific as driving her around for 9 days if she wasn't even allowed to step out the door and go anywhere with anyone???

She went with him to her lawyers office and back but could not just drive around with him.

[VII]

Thanks Bella and bchand :beer:

OOOOkay, time to resume my life
}}}sigh{{{{

Happy Posting, Ya'll !!
:seeya:

[Ladyhawk]

I've just begun to follow this case....

Is it 100% for sure that she wasn't allowed to leave her house with the bail bondsman?

I just can't figure out why they would say something as specific as driving her around for 9 days if she wasn't even allowed to step out the door and go anywhere with anyone???

Maybe he meant they drove her to and from the case worker's office and the lawyer's office. Someone was driving her to those places, I thought it was RD.

[jbellaj]

The meetings so far have varied. She HAS gone to the home, but she also has gone to Baez's office and Casey has gone to her office to meet with her (I think that's where the shot of Casey & Lee hi-fiving came from.)

Yes it was and I can't use the words here that would express how I felt seeing that.

[jbellaj]

I doubt it jbella. That is in Seminole County, and I believe Casey reports to the Orange county confinement officer in that county.


I don't know which building you guys are watching but the link says she has a meeting at 12:30 with the home confinement manager. :shrug:

[jbellaj]

Casey doesnt have GPS monitoring. Maybe on the way to and from Baez they could go where ever they want?:shrug:

Isn't an ankle monitor the same thing? Thankfully I don't know the answer to the question....:eek:

[trich]

Since Jesse Grund is again being discussed tonight, I want to bring up something he said last night. When asked by Geraldo if he had ever met Zenaida, he stated that he hadn't met her, but that Casey had mentioned her. If Jesse hadn't acknowledged her I wouldn't even be going here, but.........

Casey and Jesse only dated from Dec '05 to May '06, and for a breif time in November '07. If Casey had just made up Zenaida as part of her statement to police, then why would she have been talking about her to Jesse clear back then before caylee ever disappeared?

I live in a County of a certain Sate where illegal immigrants are a HUGE problem. Here, there are over 10,000 active warrants for people in this County alone. Some immigrants commit crimes, are booked into jail under one name, and change it as soon as they are released and never show up to court. People here are able to change identities like they change underwear. You can buy SS numbers at the local flea market.

My point is, maybe Zanny was real to Casey at one time. Maybe Zanny babysat children, because as an illegal immigrant, she could not get legitimate employment somewhere else. Maybe that is why law enforcement and others can't find her to talk to her.

Do I believe that Zanny did take Caylee? No.
Do I believe that Zanny may have been another innocent person who crossed paths with Casey at one point in time? Yes.


I posted this last night, and no one commented on it. Do any of you have any thoughts on the above?

Okay here is a thought:
Jessie said he heard Casey mention Zanny but did he ever say he heard her speak of her when they were engaged or when they dated again in Nov 07?
If she had started to give Caylee something to make her sleep around that time because she wanted to party she could have come up with the imaginary person then.
He said when he and Casey were together when Caylee was an infant he and his parents took care of her.
I bet she never said Caylee was with Zanny when Caylee was a baby.

[Regina.Lampert]

Morning, all!

I think the number 9 is one Casey just likes using, for whatever reason. She initially says the 9th is the last time she say her Daughter. She reported her phone missing to Universal 9 days ago. And I was looking through her myspace/facebook comments lastnight and notice that she commented to someone about '9 days'. Though, I forgot what she was talking about.

Maybe it's her lucky number! lol

This is a good theory you have about the date change, Lady. Just about everyone thinks its odd that all family members got the last day they seen Caylee, wrong, yet, all picked the same wrong date.

Personally, I think it would have been simple to recall that it was Father's Day and not give a date, period. They can't all reasonably and in good faith forget that it was a Holiday, IMO.

I am thinking it had to do with all the anthonys not wanting LE to know about casey's theft of the money from the great grandparents or the argument that ensued on Sunday 6/l5 over it.

In fact, I don't think the anthonys ever told LE about that argument, that information came from other witnesses iirc.

Which brings me to the interviews of 7/16 when LE separated all the anthonys. I would give my husbands right arm to see them and compare them to what we know now.

[trich]

Yes it was and I can't use the words here that would express how I felt seeing that.


Me either.

[dixielover]

Since Jesse Grund is again being discussed tonight, I want to bring up something he said last night. When asked by Geraldo if he had ever met Zenaida, he stated that he hadn't met her, but that Casey had mentioned her. If Jesse hadn't acknowledged her I wouldn't even be going here, but.........

Casey and Jesse only dated from Dec '05 to May '06, and for a breif time in November '07. If Casey had just made up Zenaida as part of her statement to police, then why would she have been talking about her to Jesse clear back then before caylee ever disappeared?

I live in a County of a certain Sate where illegal immigrants are a HUGE problem. Here, there are over 10,000 active warrants for people in this County alone. Some immigrants commit crimes, are booked into jail under one name, and change it as soon as they are released and never show up to court. People here are able to change identities like they change underwear. You can buy SS numbers at the local flea market.

My point is, maybe Zanny was real to Casey at one time. Maybe Zanny babysat children, because as an illegal immigrant, she could not get legitimate employment somewhere else. Maybe that is why law enforcement and others can't find her to talk to her.

Do I believe that Zanny did take Caylee? No.
Do I believe that Zanny may have been another innocent person who crossed paths with Casey at one point in time? Yes.
__________________

I posted this last night, and no one commented on it. Do any of you have any thoughts on the above?

Maybe I am wrong but I heard that KC had mentioned Zanny not the name Zenaida. jmo

[bchand]

I am thinking it had to do with all the anthonys not wanting LE to know about casey's theft of the money from the great grandparents or the argument that ensued on Sunday 6/l5 over it.

In fact, I don't think the anthonys ever told LE about that argument, that information came from other witnesses iirc.

Which brings me to the interviews of 7/16 when LE separated all the anthonys. I would give my husbands right arm to see them and compare them to what we know now.

OMG, your poor hubby :eek:

[Lostgirl]

She went with him to her lawyers office and back but could not just drive around with him.

that's so freaking weird!

In the youtube he iuses the "driving her around for 9 days" as one of the reasons he no longer trusts her and thinks she's guilty

plus he even elaborates a bit and says something about her demeanor while they were driving around... he says something like "she was all happy and upbeat without a care in the world"

thats why in the Dr. Phil thing they say "what he claims he observed might surprise you

"Rob says he drove Casey around in search of Caylee for nine days, and what he claims he observed might surprise you."

the thing that surprised him was how happy and unconcerned she was

[crymeariver2006]

Did everyone see this:

Trust Fund Shut Down

http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html?rss=orl&psp=news



gotta love how they blame TES :cuss:

It's just another way to throw slurs at TES.

I just have this feeling that when TES says "developments" that will be "surprising" have to do with $$.

The longer Caylee stays "missing", the more $$ rolls in from unsuspecting people that obviously have (or had) more money than sense.

JMO

Any lawyer who valued his law license and the reputation would have shut down that "trust fund".

[crymeariver2006]

that's so freaking weird!

In the youtube he iuses the "driving her around for 9 days" as one of the reasons he no longer trusts her and thinks she's guilty

plus he even elaborates a bit and says something about her demeanor while they were driving around... he says something like "she was all happy and upbeat without a care in the world"

thats why in the Dr. Phil thing they say "what he claims he observed might surprise you

"Rob says he drove Casey around in search of Caylee for nine days, and what he claims he observed might surprise you."

the thing that surprised him was how happy and unconcerned she was

Yet that surprised NONE of us.

:shrug:

[GrandmaGA]

Isn't an ankle monitor the same thing? Thankfully I don't know the answer to the question....:eek:
She had to be within a cerain distance of the monitoring device at all times unless she was with her lawyer, checking in, at church or at a job. She was not allowed to go joy riding with anyone and if she did she would have been arrested for breaking the terms of her bond.

[Lostgirl]

Maybe he meant they drove her to and from the case worker's office and the lawyer's office. Someone was driving her to those places, I thought it was RD.

nope in the youtube they specifically say they drove her around searching for Caylee

They were angry that she was providing one bogus location after another and it was all BS, day after day she would tell them locations and they'd drive from one to next and she sat there all happy and carefree.... much like she dragged the police around to bogus locations like Universal Studios

[GrandmaGA]

that's so freaking weird!

In the youtube he iuses the "driving her around for 9 days" as one of the reasons he no longer trusts her and thinks she's guilty

plus he even elaborates a bit and says something about her demeanor while they were driving around... he says something like "she was all happy and upbeat without a care in the world"

thats why in the Dr. Phil thing they say "what he claims he observed might surprise you

"Rob says he drove Casey around in search of Caylee for nine days, and what he claims he observed might surprise you."

the thing that surprised him was how happy and unconcerned she was

It doesn't surprise me that he is lying. If he will lie about driving her around in search of Caylee he will lie about other things as well IMO.

[crymeariver2006]

She had to be within a cerain distance of the monitoring device at all times unless she was with her lawyer, checking in, at church or at a job. She was not allowed to go joy riding with anyone and if she did she would have been arrested for breaking the terms of her bond.

Is it "breaking the terms of her bond" if she's "joy riding" with the bondsman? Is it "joy riding" when you are looking for your lost child?

IIRC, she could go out any time she wanted to, in addition to church, work, and the attorney, with permission of the case manager. She only had to give a time of departure and an arrival time back to the house, plus call as soon as she got back to the house.

So, IMO, they could very well have gone to places where Casey claims she last saw Caylee, and those places could have been visited on the way to the attorney's office or on the way home.

[GrandmaGA]

nope in the youtube they specifically say they drove her around searching for Caylee

They were angry that she was providing one bogus location after another and it was all BS, day after day she would tell them locations and they'd drive from one to next and she sat there all happy and carefree.... much like she dragged the police around to bogus locations like Universal Studios


Then she should be rearrested for breaking her bond as driving around looking for Caylee or any other reason except to her lawyers and to her check ins was not allowed.

[jbellaj]

She had to be within a cerain distance of the monitoring device at all times unless she was with her lawyer, checking in, at church or at a job. She was not allowed to go joy riding with anyone and if she did she would have been arrested for breaking the terms of her bond.


So if she went beyond that distance no one would know and it was ok as long as she reported back to the house on time. Do I have this right?

[EGirl]

It's just another way to throw slurs at TES.

I just have this feeling that when TES says "developments" that will be "surprising" have to do with $$.

The longer Caylee stays "missing", the more $$ rolls in from unsuspecting people that obviously have (or had) more money than sense.

JMO

Any lawyer who valued his law license and the reputation would have shut down that "trust fund".
:cuss: That pizzed me off enought to go make another donation this morning.

[bchand]

That link says the moeny was spend for searches...what searches?

I like the part about there not being "alot" of money involved. I'm happy that the general public wasn't fooled by this family.

Kelley said he won't reveal the exact amount in the fund, but he said it wasn't much and that what was spent so far was used to pay for search-related items, like posters and water for volunteers.

[GrandmaGA]

Is it "breaking the terms of her bond" if she's "joy riding" with the bondsman? Is it "joy riding" when you are looking for your lost child?

IIRC, she could go out any time she wanted to, in addition to church, work, and the attorney, with permission of the case manager. She only had to give a time of departure and an arrival time back to the house, plus call as soon as she got back to the house.

So, IMO, they could very well have gone to places where Casey claims she last saw Caylee, and those places could have been visited on the way to the attorney's office or on the way home.

HE said she was happy and not concerned so I doubt they were looking for Caylee. She could not go out looking for Caylle or any other reason except those things listed in the bond and that is why they call it house arrest.

[SavannahStar]

two emails and they shut it down? I'm not buying that's the reason.


It didn't say two emails. I think it's that some of the emails allegedly came from two people connected with TES.

[crymeariver2006]

So if she went beyond that distance no one would know and it was ok as long as she reported back to the house on time. Do I have this right?

All she had to do was check in once she got to Baez' office for her appointment and check in once she got home. There was nothing to prove she stayed there the entire time. :D

[jbellaj]

I am thinking it had to do with all the anthonys not wanting LE to know about casey's theft of the money from the great grandparents or the argument that ensued on Sunday 6/l5 over it.

In fact, I don't think the anthonys ever told LE about that argument, that information came from other witnesses iirc.

Which brings me to the interviews of 7/16 when LE separated all the anthonys. I would give my husbands right arm to see them and compare them to what we know now.


:eek: you better ask him first before you go offering up his arm...:D

[Ladyhawk]

nope in the youtube they specifically say they drove her around searching for Caylee

They were angry that she was providing one bogus location after another and it was all BS, day after day she would tell them locations and they'd drive from one to next and she sat there all happy and carefree.... much like she dragged the police around to bogus locations like Universal Studios

Darn, that's just what I get for trying to work and keep up with this at the same time....I totally missed them driving her around when she was out on bond the first time. Now I have to decide if I believe them or not....wonder if any newsies followed them on their journey?

[trich]

I've just begun to follow this case....

Is it 100% for sure that she wasn't allowed to leave her house with the bail bondsman?

I just can't figure out why they would say something as specific as driving her around for 9 days if she wasn't even allowed to step out the door and go anywhere with anyone???


The guy that drove Casey back and forth to the lawyers office worked for Padilla.
Because it was his nephew's money that was used for bond.
They did that for the 9 days she was released on bond until they recinded the bond.

She talked to him and he has been revealing the things she told him.

[GrandmaGA]

So if she went beyond that distance no one would know and it was ok as long as she reported back to the house on time. Do I have this right?
She/they had a certain amount of time to get from where ever she was with permission and to get home to check in with the monitoring device. If she was late they could rearrest her.

[toadii]

Remember the interview with GVS on the couch? Cindy with her hand squeezing GA's leg while he told the gas can story?? When he's finally finished, she laughs....... as if relieved?

I always felt they came up with that story and when GA told it Cindy was nervous that he would screw up somehow.
When GA is done with his story she takes her hand off his leg.
I posted after one of the early Today shows with lee, cindy and george, that cindy was squeezing lee's leg in this manner, which struck me as control since she was not holding on to george at the time.JMO at that time and after watching the above interaction between george and cindy on Greta i believe it to be a control gesture by the matriarch of the clan.

[crymeariver2006]

HE said she was happy and not concerned so I doubt they were looking for Caylee. She could not go out looking for Caylle or any other reason except those things listed in the bond and that is why they call it house arrest.

She's never been concerned about looking for Caylee. Why would this be any different?

Maybe Rob Dick was shocked that she seemed so unconcerned, but I doubt many of us were.

[GrandmaGA]

The guy that drove Casey back and forth to the lawyers office worked for Padilla.
Because it was his nephew's money that was used for bond.
They did that for the 9 days she was released on bond until they recinded the bond.

She talked to him and he has been revealing the things she told him.

Back and forth to the lawyers office but NOT looking for Caylee.

[SavannahStar]

Because Casey's cell phone records clearly indicate that there were no phone calls to or from anyone resembling Zanny, can we not safely assume there was NO Zanny involved in the disappearance?? Where ELSE could she be?

Turning the page ...
NEXT

Exit13 suggested looking for Caylee near a landfill.
What on earth would make him say that?

Probably just a wild guess on his part. I've heard posters on here also suggest a landfill. :shrug:

[bchand]

What volunteers lmao

ummm maybe the volunteer neighbors guarding his house from the protesters?

[Ladyhawk]

Guitarded, the tape has been like that for awhile.

I want to know what the white piece of paper says that's taped to one of the stakes.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

I think it says Beware, all ye who enter, for here there be Dragons. But I could be wrong. moo

[desmom]

Good Morning!

Did Rob say they went to different places to look for Caylee or did he say while driving her around she told him different stories?

IMO, when he says "driving her around" it is in reference to the trips back and forth to JB's office and to her case manager's office.

According to google maps, it is 22.4 miles or 37 minutes to JB's office from the Anthony's home ....throw in traffic, maybe 45 minutes. A lot of time for Casey to spin new stories to a captive audience.

jmo

[oldbluesmith]

Is it "breaking the terms of her bond" if she's "joy riding" with the bondsman? Is it "joy riding" when you are looking for your lost child?

IIRC, she could go out any time she wanted to, in addition to church, work, and the attorney, with permission of the case manager. She only had to give a time of departure and an arrival time back to the house, plus call as soon as she got back to the house.

So, IMO, they could very well have gone to places where Casey claims she last saw Caylee, and those places could have been visited on the way to the attorney's office or on the way home.Good Morning All, ITA, Crymeariver, plus if she is riding around with her bail bondsman, she is in custody of who would be hunting her down if she ran for any reason (like guilt). She used them just like she used anyone else in her life and thought for the moment she could have fun just leading the BH on with her lies. JMHO

[GrandmaGA]

Driving to and from her attorneys isnt 'searching 9 days' in my book.

ITA, he is dowright lying.

[dixielover]

:beer: Kudos to WebSleuths!!

:rose: Caylee

I read all of the WS documents on this and it sure doesn't seem like they are going to let up on this-it that your impression. jmo

[crymeariver2006]

What volunteers lmao


Now, now...we saw George giving bottled water to the guys who were shouting obscenities at the protesters who were across the street.

All that cursing would tend to dry your throat.

:no:

[jbellaj]

All she had to do was check in once she got to Baez' office for her appointment and check in once she got home. There was nothing to prove she stayed there the entire time. :D

Well the way the media has been on her 24/7 I think it's highly unlikely she went anywhere other then Baez's office. JMO :shrug:

[desmom]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7372388&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

According to the man who drove Casey Anthony around during the time she was first released on bond said Friday that Casey told him she left three year old Caylee with her babysitter at Blanchard Park in East Orange County.

Rob Dick is a bounty hunter who took Casey Anthony to and from her parent’s home in East Orange County to the jail for appointments and her attorney’s office in Kissimmee.

Dick said that Casey was very talkative during the rides and spoke of her missing daughter in the present tense. And even though he wasn’t allowed to ask her any questions about the case, she gave him several names she said were involved in the disappearance of her daughter.

[AMS]

I am thinking it had to do with all the anthonys not wanting LE to know about casey's theft of the money from the great grandparents or the argument that ensued on Sunday 6/l5 over it.

In fact, I don't think the anthonys ever told LE about that argument, that information came from other witnesses iirc.

Which brings me to the interviews of 7/16 when LE separated all the anthonys. I would give my husbands right arm to see them and compare them to what we know now.

I hope he is left-handed ;)

[jammies]

I read all of the WS documents on this and it sure doesn't seem like they are going to let up on this-it that your impression. jmo


It's my impression. They are driving this train at top speed. God luv em for it!



btw, now we know where Cindy gets all her bottled water.

[bchand]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7372388&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

According to the man who drove Casey Anthony around during the time she was first released on bond said Friday that Casey told him she left three year old Caylee with her babysitter at Blanchard Park in East Orange County.

Rob Dick is a bounty hunter who took Casey Anthony to and from her parent’s home in East Orange County to the jail for appointments and her attorney’s office in Kissimmee.

Dick said that Casey was very talkative during the rides and spoke of her missing daughter in the present tense. And even though he wasn’t allowed to ask her any questions about the case, she gave him several names she said were involved in the disappearance of her daughter.

That would be Zanny, her sister Samantha and her kids?

[oldbluesmith]

Well the way the media has been on her 24/7 I think it's highly unlikely she went anywhere other then Baez's office. JMO :shrug:
This is just spectulation, but she carried a back pack everyday and could she have had a change of clothes, a wig, etc. and taken the back door out or walked past the media at the front door looking like a boy or old man/woman? Then ridden around all day looking and leading the BH around by the nose? JMHO:shrug:

[Velouria]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7372388&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

According to the man who drove Casey Anthony around during the time she was first released on bond said Friday that Casey told him she left three year old Caylee with her babysitter at Blanchard Park in East Orange County.

Rob Dick is a bounty hunter who took Casey Anthony to and from her parent’s home in East Orange County to the jail for appointments and her attorney’s office in Kissimmee.

Dick said that Casey was very talkative during the rides and spoke of her missing daughter in the present tense. And even though he wasn’t allowed to ask her any questions about the case, she gave him several names she said were involved in the disappearance of her daughter.


THANK YOU DESMOM! :)

All this emphasis on the "driving her around" bit is much ado about nothing, IMO. I agree with your previous post...Dick was referring to driving her to and from her lawyer's office, and not implying they went driving aimlessly around town. :rolleyes:

[crymeariver2006]

Well the way the media has been on her 24/7 I think it's highly unlikely she went anywhere other then Baez's office. JMO :shrug:

She probably didn't. The point is that, with permission from the case manager, she could have.

We ALL know she wasn't interested in looking for Caylee.

If she was, a case manager would be hard pressed to deny that request as long as she was accompanied by her entourage.

[Boxer]

I posted after one of the early Today shows with lee, cindy and george, that cindy was squeezing lee's leg in this manner, which struck me as control since she was not holding on to george at the time.JMO at that time and after watching the above interaction between george and cindy on Greta i believe it to be a control gesture by the matriarch of the clan.


I had not seen this interview since the Today Show comes on in the middle of the night (for me:D). That's freaky! I totally agree with it being a control measure.

[Lostgirl]

The guy that drove Casey back and forth to the lawyers office worked for Padilla.
Because it was his nephew's money that was used for bond.
They did that for the 9 days she was released on bond until they recinded the bond.

She talked to him and he has been revealing the things she told him.

but Rob said HE himself drove her around for 9 days and on the youtube LP says HE drove her around for 9 days and they both said it was driving from one bogus location to the next searching for Caylee

and they said they observed her behavior as they drove

and that's what finally made them angry because she took them on a wild goose chase and they were surprised at how happy and carefree she was acting while they drove to all these various locations she provided. They were surprised that she was so happy while driving around looking for her missing child, they thought she would be serious or anxious or something that would indicate how worried she is about Caylee

in the youtube LP indicates that they drove wayyyy over here and then wayyyyyy over there, like fairly long distances wasting their time going to bogus locations for 9 days

[trich]

Back and forth to the lawyers office but NOT looking for Caylee.



No they were not searching fo rCaylee.
As from what I know she was allowed to go to the lawyers office and back home and that is all.
That is except for possibly seeing her case worker.


If Padilla really really thought he was going to get her to tell him where Caylee was he was delusional....I think the only reason he recinded the bond was he knew then how foolish he looked by believing her lies.
And I might add that anyone else that is believing her should take a good look at themselves too.

[Velouria]

in the youtube LP indicates that they drove wayyyy over here and then wayyyyyy over there, like fairly long distances wasting their time going to bogus locations for 9 days

Lostgirl, do you happen to have the link to the YouTube video? thanks!

[oldbluesmith]

ITA, Velouria, the BH is referring to driving to and from the atty's office only. KC has diarrhea of the mouth and can't keep from talking because she has some sort of need to tell tall tales. I had a great uncle that would lie when it was a more interesting to tell a true tale. JMHO

[Boxer]

but Rob said HE himself drove her around for 9 days and on the youtube LP says HE drove her around for 9 days and they both said it was driving from one bogus location to the next searching for Caylee

and they said they observed her behavior as they drove

and that's what finally made them angry because she took them on a wild goose chase and they were surprised at how happy and carefree she was acting while they drove to all these various locations she provided. They were surprised that she was so happy while driving around looking for her missing child, they thought she would be serious or anxious or something that would indicate how worried she is about Caylee

in the youtube LP indicates that they drove wayyyy over here and then wayyyyyy over there, like fairly long distances wasting their time going to bogus locations for 9 days

Question: If Casey was supposed to go to her attorney's office and one of these men took her elsewhere, wouldn't they be in a hot tub of doodoo?

Edited to add: did they have access to Casey for 9 days?

[jakee]

Maybe he meant they drove her to and from the case worker's office and the lawyer's office. Someone was driving her to those places, I thought it was RD.

Good morning all,

This is what I assumed he meant by driving her around. :shrug:

[crymeariver2006]

Question: If Casey was supposed to go to her attorney's office and one of these men took her elsewhere, wouldn't they be in a hot tub of doodoo?

She would have to check in once she got to her attorney's office. She could request an extension of time outside (and she did).

But to answer your question, Casey would be the one in the tub IMO.

[trich]

Good morning all,

This is what I assumed he meant by driving her around. :shrug:

It is obvious Padilla stretchessssss the truth some times. LOL
But yet there is some validity to what he says.
So guess just gotta weed through it all.

[jbellaj]

It's my impression. They are driving this train at top speed. God luv em for it!



btw, now we know where Cindy gets all her bottled water.

I've never been over there because I love my buds here, however I just popped on to see what is happening. I am amazed what they are doing. JMO

[jbellaj]

Good Morning!

Did Rob say they went to different places to look for Caylee or did he say while driving her around she told him different stories?

IMO, when he says "driving her around" it is in reference to the trips back and forth to JB's office and to her case manager's office.

According to google maps, it is 22.4 miles or 37 minutes to JB's office from the Anthony's home ....throw in traffic, maybe 45 minutes. A lot of time for Casey to spin new stories to a captive audience.

jmo


That's what my thought was too. I don't normally watch Dr. Phil but I will today just to hear if they clarify this.

[jammies]

I've never been over there because I love my buds here, however I just popped on to see what is happening. I am amazed what they are doing. JMO


I signed up a while back but have never posted. I try to check over there once a day to see what they are covering.

[Lostgirl]

Good morning all,

This is what I assumed he meant by driving her around. :shrug:

He doesnt say "driving her around" he specifically says "he drove her around searching for Caylee for 9 days"

both Rob Dick and Padilla say the same thing, they drove her around for 9 days searching for Caylee and she took them all over the place to bogus locations day after day

[Boxer]

What are they doing at ws?

they are following the donation money. the trust was closed.

[Lostgirl]

I'm still looking for the youtube, I'll post the link if I can find it

I wish i would have jotted down the name of the youtube grrrr!

[dixielover]

I've never been over there because I love my buds here, however I just popped on to see what is happening. I am amazed what they are doing. JMO


I am amazed at what they computer geeks(complementary) can find on the computer- I wished I had their ability- it looks like they are looking at organizations that A are dealing with to the paypal accounts that are still running. I also think that have really made someone mad or accused her/him or something and they are really motivated. jmo

[jakee]

He doesnt say "driving her around" he specifically says "he drove her around searching for Caylee for 9 days"

both Rob Dick and Padilla say the same thing, they drove her around for 9 days searching for Caylee and she took them all over the place to bogus locations day after day


Thanks. I never knew they said that! Weird. They do seem to change/add to their stories. imo

[barskin&co.]

I've never been over there because I love my buds here, however I just popped on to see what is happening. I am amazed what they are doing. JMO

I have registered over there, but I think they're a bunch of wack jobs.

[Regina.Lampert]

It doesn't surprise me that he is lying. If he will lie about driving her around in search of Caylee he will lie about other things as well IMO.

Actually we don't know if he's lying. It's a fact that Robert Dick was her driver for a time, back and forth to her attorney's office. Who is to say they didn't do a little tour while going from the anthony home to baez's office. They could have and that may be to what Padilla and Dick are referring. IMO.

[WinnieLeigh7]

WooHooooooooooo

**Roger Rabbit**
**Cabbage Patch**

I'm backkkkkkkkkkk

*Cartwheels*

So, besides links (which I've read, can't do video here)....

I need major updates!!

What's happened? Any news from Cali? Why was the search fund closed, and why was it stated that harrassing emails came from TES, that doesn't make sense to me?!

What about the defense fund, is it closed? Or just the search fund? Do I need need to ask? *sigh*

[marshmallow]

That's what my thought was too. I don't normally watch Dr. Phil but I will today just to hear if they clarify this.


Dr Phil angers up my blood so I never watch him but I've got it set to tape today. I'll skim through i later tonight.

[WinnieLeigh7]

He doesnt say "driving her around" he specifically says "he drove her around searching for Caylee for 9 days"

both Rob Dick and Padilla say the same thing, they drove her around for 9 days searching for Caylee and she took them all over the place to bogus locations day after day

Who's Rob?

What am I missing about Dr. Phil?

[jbellaj]

I signed up a while back but have never posted. I try to check over there once a day to see what they are covering.

I I didn't post either but I am seriously thinking about filling out a complaint form....not sure that I will. I do wonder how they get all the info they get.:shrug:

[msgatorslayer]

So are you saying you're centralized here?
:shrug:

:lol:.......

[MyrDawn]

When did he lie amd who is lying? LP did NOT drive her around at all.

Was it LP that said he drove her around for 9 days on the Dr. Phil show, or Rob Dick? We don't get Dr. P here until afternoon. But, on Dr. P's website, for that show it says "Rob says he drove Casey around in search of Caylee for nine days"

Did LP say he was driving with them that 9 days?

http://www.drphil.com/shows/

[shelbar53]

Just finished the thread at WS with exit 13.

Sure wish one of her GF's would talk. No use talking to guys that she partied with as they have no idea other than she was fun, nice, blah blah. Typical guys!

GF's would dish the dirt!

Good morning. ITA....i dont think he really offered any insight. Just a typical guy having fun at parties and the more pretty girls the merrier. It is obvious he thought casey was very attractive and he might of based his opinons based on that. He did say he thought caylee was dead and that casey killed her. So based on all his comments about her being nice and just a regular girl and then to come out and say that...IMO he is holding back something that would make him think that {he stated he based that on forenics stuff}.Maybe he didnt really know her personality and just knew her as a girl thats fun to party with. he never knew her to lie, drink alot, do drugs, be easy, steal.....but he thinks she killed caylee. incongruent

[jbellaj]

I am amazed at what they computer geeks(complementary) can find on the computer- I wished I had their ability- it looks like they are looking at organizations that A are dealing with to the paypal accounts that are still running. I also think that have really made someone mad or accused her/him or something and they are really motivated. jmo

I wonder if this is in regards to the paypal account that Lee said people can donate to and he would make sure it was forwarded to the Help Find Caylee Fund. :shrug:

[barskin&co.]

Since Jesse Grund is again being discussed tonight, I want to bring up something he said last night. When asked by Geraldo if he had ever met Zenaida, he stated that he hadn't met her, but that Casey had mentioned her. If Jesse hadn't acknowledged her I wouldn't even be going here, but.........

Casey and Jesse only dated from Dec '05 to May '06, and for a breif time in November '07. If Casey had just made up Zenaida as part of her statement to police, then why would she have been talking about her to Jesse clear back then before caylee ever disappeared?

I live in a County of a certain Sate where illegal immigrants are a HUGE problem. Here, there are over 10,000 active warrants for people in this County alone. Some immigrants commit crimes, are booked into jail under one name, and change it as soon as they are released and never show up to court. People here are able to change identities like they change underwear. You can buy SS numbers at the local flea market.

My point is, maybe Zanny was real to Casey at one time. Maybe Zanny babysat children, because as an illegal immigrant, she could not get legitimate employment somewhere else. Maybe that is why law enforcement and others can't find her to talk to her.

Do I believe that Zanny did take Caylee? No.
Do I believe that Zanny may have been another innocent person who crossed paths with Casey at one point in time? Yes.
__________________

I posted this last night, and no one commented on it. Do any of you have any thoughts on the above?

I don't think Jesse said that Casey mentioned Zanny back when they first were seeing each other. Casey did talk about "Zanny the nanny to people (Amy mentions it in her interview); it was part of her, "I'm a big time event planner, and I have a nanny for my daughter" routine. The addition of the full-out Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez name didn't come about until she had to speak to the police.

Remember, she told people, Cindy, Jesse, Amy, others about her "nanny;" nobody ever saw her, talked to her, saw a picture, knew an address, a phone number....you get the drift.

[barskin&co.]

I wonder if this is in regards to the paypal account that Lee said people can donate to and he would make sure it was forwarded to the Help Find Caylee Fund. :shrug:

Ahhh, yes. LeePal!

[jbellaj]

WooHooooooooooo

**Roger Rabbit**
**Cabbage Patch**

I'm backkkkkkkkkkk

*Cartwheels*

So, besides links (which I've read, can't do video here)....

I need major updates!!

What's happened? Any news from Cali? Why was the search fund closed, and why was it stated that harrassing emails came from TES, that doesn't make sense to me?!

What about the defense fund, is it closed? Or just the search fund? Do I need need to ask? *sigh*

It is my understanding that the e-mails came from the searchers that helped in the search not from TES.JMO

[Rebel Rouzer]

WooHooooooooooo

**Roger Rabbit**
**Cabbage Patch**

I'm backkkkkkkkkkk

*Cartwheels*

So, besides links (which I've read, can't do video here)....

I need major updates!!

What's happened? Any news from Cali? Why was the search fund closed, and why was it stated that harrassing emails came from TES, that doesn't make sense to me?!

What about the defense fund, is it closed? Or just the search fund? Do I need need to ask? *sigh*

Welcome back Winnie. :seeya:

I think they said they BELIEVE the nasty emails came from 2 volunteer searchers for TES. I don't think that's been confirmed yet.

[Rayosunshine]

I have registered over there, but I think they're a bunch of wack jobs.

How many wack jobs post there under a different screen name, that also post here? I remember, I thought I saw you posting there.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Lostgirl]

Was it LP that said he drove her around for 9 days on the Dr. Phil show, or Rob Dick? We don't get Dr. P here until afternoon. But, on Dr. P's website, for that show it says "Rob says he drove Casey around in search of Caylee for nine days"

Did LP say he was driving with them that 9 days?

http://www.drphil.com/shows/

they both say it

On the youtube i watched they are sitting together being interviewed and the guy asks them why they changed from initially defending casey and believing her to now saying they think she is lying

on the youtube LP says one of the reasons was that he drove her around for 9 days looking for caylee and all she did was provide bogus locations and waste their time just like she did to the police when she dragged them to universal

also the promo on dr phils site says that Rob Dick told Dr phil that he drove her around for 9 days searching for caylee

[Rebel Rouzer]

Thanks... I still cannot believe the Anthony's have never even looked for Caylee. I believe they all know where she is buried. I just do not understand how they can leave her like that, it's beyond words.


You and me both. :seeya:

[jbellaj]

Thanks... I still cannot believe the Anthony's have never even looked for Caylee. I believe they all know where she is buried. I just do not understand how they can leave her like that, it's beyond words.

IMO if they do know it's a disgrace to Caylee's memory. She may not have or never will have a proper resting place but it does give me peace that she is with GOD now and will never be hurt again. JMO

:rose: for Caylee

[JHP]

Ahhh, yes. LeePal!

I wonder who in their right mind would donate a penny to this messed up bunch?

[WinnieLeigh7]

Welcome back Winnie. :seeya:

I think they said they BELIEVE the nasty emails came from 2 volunteer searchers for TES. I don't think that's been confirmed yet.


So, two searchers caused so much havoc they felt the need to close the search fund?? hhmmm

[JHP]

they both say it

On the youtube i watched they are sitting together being interviewed and the guy asks them why they changed from initially defending casey and believing her to now saying they think she is lying

on the youtube LP says one of the reasons was that he drove her around for 9 days looking for caylee and all she did was provide bogus locations and waste their time just like she did to the police when she dragged them to universal

also the promo on dr phils site says that Rob Dick told Dr phil that he drove her around for 9 days searching for caylee

Were they looking in the attorneys office??

[Tiger]

I'm still looking for the youtube, I'll post the link if I can find it

I wish i would have jotted down the name of the youtube grrrr!
Youtube keeps track of the videos you recently viewed. I think you might want to look in the favorites or something. You don't even have to save them to favorites it keeps track of the ones you viewed I think in the last week:shrug:

[desmom]

He doesnt say "driving her around" he specifically says "he drove her around searching for Caylee for 9 days"

both Rob Dick and Padilla say the same thing, they drove her around for 9 days searching for Caylee and she took them all over the place to bogus locations day after day

Okay, I am lost.

Where and when did they say this? TIA

[GrandmaGA]

I'm still looking for the youtube, I'll post the link if I can find it

I wish i would have jotted down the name of the youtube grrrr!

Go to your history and it should be there.

[Rebel Rouzer]

So, two searchers caused so much havoc they felt the need to close the search fund?? hhmmm


I don't believe that is the ONLY or REAL reason but that's the reason they gave.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I don't believe that is the ONLY or REAL reason but that's the reason they gave.

yea, something smells a lil' fishy to me.....

[Lostgirl]

I don't think Jesse said that Casey mentioned Zanny back when they first were seeing each other. Casey did talk about "Zanny the nanny to people (Amy mentions it in her interview); it was part of her, "I'm a big time event planner, and I have a nanny for my daughter" routine. The addition of the full-out Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez name didn't come about until she had to speak to the police.

Remember, she told people, Cindy, Jesse, Amy, others about her "nanny;" nobody ever saw her, talked to her, saw a picture, knew an address, a phone number....you get the drift.

Jesse told geraldo that Casey told him "zanny" in november of 2007

[Tiger]

How many wack jobs post there under a different screen name, that also post here? I remember, I thought I saw you posting there.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
:confused::confused::confused:

[Boxer]

I wonder who in their right mind would donate a penny to this messed up bunch?

people may have in the beginning. :shrug: I have not, but who could blame them if they did way back when we thought this was a real search?

[Velouria]

Ahhh, yes. LeePal!

"LeePal"...Hee!

I think that's a likely reason why we've seen very little of Lee the last couple of weeks.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Jesse told geraldo that Casey told him "zanny" in november of 2007

Jesse told the LE he heard Caylee in the background on a phone conversation late June...

:shrug:

[barskin&co.]

I think a lot of what Casey says has some truth. I think most of what Casey says is what Cindy put in the script for all the Anthony's to say. I know is angers Cindy when they don't get it right.

Oh Granny, please. "A lot of what Casey says has some truth??" The only truth coming out of her mouth is her name and date of birth.
Listen to all the recordings again. The 911 call. The jailhouse call. The police intreviews That is not some poor, abused girl who is the pawn of her mother. She is cool, calm, sometimes defiant, never in the least bit concerned with her daughter, always concerned about herself.
She's in charge.

[dixielover]

I wonder if this is in regards to the paypal account that Lee said people can donate to and he would make sure it was forwarded to the Help Find Caylee Fund. :shrug:

I think there is a lot of things they are looking into includiing something about the billboard that GA is driving around- I really don't understand alot of it but I bet this is why CA is going after the blogs- it is not because of nasty things that are being said but they are digging deep into their finances. I have no idea about the WS but it is an interesting read (as CA says). jmo

[Lostgirl]

Go to your history and it should be there.

oh cool, I'll do that thanks!

[jammies]

I wonder who in their right mind would donate a penny to this messed up bunch?



Who here would fess up if they did? ;)

[WinnieLeigh7]

I think a lot of what Casey says has some truth. I think most of what Casey says is what Cindy put in the script for all the Anthony's to say. I know is angers Cindy when they don't get it right.

May I ask specifically which part of what Casey has to say that you believe to be the 'truth'??

[MyrDawn]

they both say it

On the youtube i watched they are sitting together being interviewed and the guy asks them why they changed from initially defending casey and believing her to now saying they think she is lying

on the youtube LP says one of the reasons was that he drove her around for 9 days looking for caylee and all she did was provide bogus locations and waste their time just like she did to the police when she dragged them to universal

also the promo on dr phils site says that Rob Dick told Dr phil that he drove her around for 9 days searching for caylee


I hope you find that video. I sure can't find it on youtube. Do you remember who the interviewer was?

[WinnieLeigh7]

Who here would fess up if they did? ;)

I would, if I did, but I didn't, so no prob-lem-bo LOL

[marshmallow]

I wonder if this is in regards to the paypal account that Lee said people can donate to and he would make sure it was forwarded to the Help Find Caylee Fund. :shrug:

Those're my thoughts too. You don't need a middle man to donate.

[kakax]

Okay, I am lost.

Where and when did they say this? TIA


From Dr. Phil's website....

Then, bounty hunters Leonard Padilla and Rob Dick say they helped bail Casey out of jail after she agreed to help them find her daughter. Rob says he drove Casey around in search of Caylee for nine days, and what he claims he observed might surprise you.

http://www.drphil.com/shows/

[jbellaj]

Why would you complain about a site you don't belong to? I don't belong there, but it sounds to be like they are doing a very good job getting plenty of info and taking action.

jmo

:no: it's a link to to express your concern about were and who the donations are going to. I think the point they are trying to do is make sure the money isn't going to be transfered to a defense fund. Not against WS JMO

[sofiesmom]

:eek: you better ask him first before you go offering up his arm...:DThat's funny. I keep saying, "I bet my life...I mean YOUR life on this or that in this case.

[Velouria]

Why would you complain about a site you don't belong to? I don't belong there, but it sounds to be like they are doing a very good job getting plenty of info and taking action.

jmo

bookclubfan, she's talking about filing a complaint with the state attorney's office regarding the various fundraising efforts done on Caylee's supposed behalf (like Uncle Lee's PayPal fund), not a complaint about Websleuths. :)

[barskin&co.]

How many wack jobs post there under a different screen name, that also post here? I remember, I thought I saw you posting there.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I registered there, and so I asked a question of the alleged friend of Casey last night. I was posting here when I did it, and told people about it as I posted. I use the same name there, and identified myself as the same poster who is here. I, by the way, always use the name barskin on any message board.

My problem with WS, and I have mentioned it many times, is that people assert that they are so-and-so and they know so-and-so and they have special inside information and a thread might go on forever with this totally unverified stuff. The horrible rumor about Jesse being in cahoots with the "kidnappers" was a thread on WS. It was so terrible; Jesse's father had to formally protest. Eventually, everything this poster said was disproved by the police. That's why I complain about WS. Things like that happen all the time.

[Boxer]

IMO, funds collected in various parking lots never made it to the now closed trust.

[Velouria]

May I ask specifically which part of what Casey has to say that you believe to be the 'truth'??


I know I'm not GrannyB, but I believe Casey when she claims Caylee is "close to home". :flamemad:

[Regina.Lampert]

How many wack jobs post there under a different screen name, that also post here? I remember, I thought I saw you posting there.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

"wack" jobs? I post over there and I don't think there are many whack jobs there. WS is a serious board and is run very well, imo.

I believe cynthia threatened to close down the wrong message board when she went after WS. Now, she is paying the price for that, imo.

[MyrDawn]

Is the tape with Geraldo & Jesse on the links? I need to go back & analyze it

Here's a link to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLH9mC9Uha0

[jbellaj]

I think there is a lot of things they are looking into includiing something about the billboard that GA is driving around- I really don't understand alot of it but I bet this is why CA is going after the blogs- it is not because of nasty things that are being said but they are digging deep into their finances. I have no idea about the WS but it is an interesting read (as CA says). jmo

I thought so too...It was my first time checking it out because it was discussed a lot hear last night.

[Velouria]

IMO, funds collected in various parking lots never made it to the now closed trust.

Gee Boxer, WHAT funds? <wink wink>

[Boxer]

Gee Boxer, WHAT funds? <wink wink>

exactly...they probably got 23 cents and a linty breath mint

[happy2bme]

"wack" jobs? I post over there and I don't think there are many whack jobs there. WS is a serious board and is run very well, imo.

I believe cynthia threatened to close down the wrong message board when she went after WS. Now, she is paying the price for that, imo.

I signed up at WS when IS was shut down awhile back. I do like to read over there some, although I usually don't post. My nic there is the same as here.

[jbellaj]

Those're my thoughts too. You don't need a middle man to donate.

Well I only found out last night about this paypal acount. I had been off the boards for a week and just caught up reading the links, so I missed a ton of stuff that went on.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I registered there, and so I asked a question of the alleged friend of Casey last night. I was posting here when I did it, and told people about it as I posted. I use the same name there, and identified myself as the same poster who is here. I, by the way, always use the name barskin on any message board.

My problem with WS, and I have mentioned it many times, is that people asset that they are so-and-so and they know so-and-so and they have special inside information and a thread might go on forever with this totally unverified stuff. The horrible rumor about Jesse being in cahoots with the "kidnappers" was a thread on WS. It was so terrible; Jesse's father had to formally protest. Eventually, everything this poster said was disproved by the police. That's why I complain about WS. Things like that happen all the time.


That's what I like about you barskin you don't flipflop and you tell it like it is and stand by what you post. Very honorable. IMO

[barskin&co.]

Jesse told geraldo that Casey told him "zanny" in november of 2007

Yes, that sounds right. That was about 8 months before Caylee was gone. Like I said, she talked about having a "nanny" to several people.

[desmom]

From Dr. Phil's website....

Then, bounty hunters Leonard Padilla and Rob Dick say they helped bail Casey out of jail after she agreed to help them find her daughter. Rob says he drove Casey around in search of Caylee for nine days, and what he claims he observed might surprise you.

http://www.drphil.com/shows/

Thanks!

These pages include quotes from Leonard and Rob:

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/4618/?id=4618&showID=1127

http://www.drphil.com/slideshows/slideshow/4618/?id=4618&slide=1&showID=1127&preview=&versionID=

[sofiesmom]

That's what my thought was too. I don't normally watch Dr. Phil but I will today just to hear if they clarify this.I guess I'll try to watch Dr Phil also, but I seriously doubt that he'll add anything that we posters don't already suspect.

[Lostgirl]

wow i have a million youtubes in my history this is like looking for a needle in a haystack! :D

This isnt the one i was referring to but i think LP says something about it in this interview as well

it's about halfway into the video when it switches to the male anchor interviewing Padilla and Dick who are sitting side by side

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgFrnrNe3Z0&feature=related

I'm still looking for the other youtube i watched earlier where LP says it

[jammies]

I donated to TES after Ike. We need more people like Tim.


I agree. If and when they ever do a search in my area, I'm THERE.
Amazing how many people have never heard of TES.

[Rebel Rouzer]

"wack" jobs? I post over there and I don't think there are many whack jobs there. WS is a serious board and is run very well, imo.

I believe cynthia threatened to close down the wrong message board when she went after WS. Now, she is paying the price for that, imo.


I thought she was only going after web sites that use foul language about the family and Casey? I thought Cindy excluded WS boards? :shrug:

[jammies]

I would, if I did, but I didn't, so no prob-lem-bo LOL

I wouldn't, if I did, but I didn't and I'm not lyin'! lol

[MyrDawn]

I registered there, and so I asked a question of the alleged friend of Casey last night. I was posting here when I did it, and told people about it as I posted. I use the same name there, and identified myself as the same poster who is here. I, by the way, always use the name barskin on any message board.

My problem with WS, and I have mentioned it many times, is that people asset that they are so-and-so and they know so-and-so and they have special inside information and a thread might go on forever with this totally unverified stuff. The horrible rumor about Jesse being in cahoots with the "kidnappers" was a thread on WS. It was so terrible; Jesse's father had to formally protest. Eventually, everything this poster said was disproved by the police. That's why I complain about WS. Things like that happen all the time.

That's what I don't like there, either. I've been a member for several years (different name there) and I've seen again and again threads about things that are complete fabrication. I rarely go there any more.

On this board, rumors are usually dispelled pretty quickly.

[barskin&co.]

"wack" jobs? I post over there and I don't think there are many whack jobs there. WS is a serious board and is run very well, imo.

I believe cynthia threatened to close down the wrong message board when she went after WS. Now, she is paying the price for that, imo.

What I meant, and I have said this before, is that rumors seem to run wild over there. Yes, I was being a little harsh on WS posters in general. My problem is that WS was the place someone started a slander campaign against Jesse Grund; it seems to be fertile ground for that sort of thing.

[StickyBeak]

Jumping around to different sites, found this posted on one.
Anyone know how to verifiy info? Seems like a screen shot for Lee, just a comment as to where the paypal money was going.

http://i36.tinypic.com/4iypgk.jpg

If true would this be a felony as well? Geeze

[SavannahStar]

That's what I don't like there, either. I've been a member for several years (different name there) and I've seen again and again threads about things that are complete fabrication. I rarely go there any more.



I use the same nic over there but rarely if ever post. If someone mentions a particularly interesting thread or post, I go look. I agree with you and barskin.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Jumping around to different sites, found this posted on one.
Anyone know how to verifiy info? Seems like a screen shot for Lee, just a comment as to where the paypal money was going.

http://i36.tinypic.com/4iypgk.jpg

If true would this be a felony as well? Geeze

I can't read it so I can't tell ya what it means one way or the other. Sorry