Monday morning 9/22

[margaritaville]

Hell yeah!
I had to confront her, etc.

Maybe that is the letter then..From the towing company..
It is funny that while reading that article it comes accross as a "new" disturbing letter........I guess wewill have to wait and see!

moo

[Albini]

Good afternoon everyone



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Casey pronounciates Zenaida with a definate z sound followed y a soft e sound.

Could someone familiar with this name help me out here:)

Wouldn't the z have more of an s sound, or at least a s/z sound? And wouldn't she be Zenny or (s)zenny with a soft e sound and not Zanny with an a as in the word 'and' sound?
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My DD's nurse was Zenaida. She pronounced it with a strong Z (Za-ni-da).

[GrannyB]

[QUOTE=trich;12164734]

snipping to address.

If you believe George, it was Monday, the 16th while he was watching a cooking show at 1:00 p.m. :shrug:

Who in their right mind would believe anything George says?

[Rebel Rouzer]

Why hasn't Baez or the Anthony's or Nejame hired a sketch artist to publicize a sketch of Zanny and Sister Sam?

[Joan Weiss]

Man. Thought I was losing it! I'd hate to think I've been spending just about every waking hour here and missed the fact that Rob Dick drove Casey around for 9 days looking for Caylee.Me toooooo...Dr. Phil, pillar of honesty. :rolleyes:

imo

[Broderick]

Surely the HOA has legal advice. It will be interesting to see what happens.

Here's some examples of relocation:

http://johnnypnews.com/DCProtestclash.htm

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,96474,00.html

I was in San Francisco during the war protests. The LE imposed a curfew of 7PM, and anyone on the streets after that was arrested. The special forces of LE were called out, and the public transportation was cut off. I couldn't even cross the street to go home.


Time and manner can be controlled if there are relevant laws on the books. Sometimes, public arenas can have guidelines to protest and demonstration where a petition and permits are being granted. Individual protests are a bit different. I couldn't find applicable laws regarding this on "traditional public forums for protest" which includes public sidewalks and public streets.

[Albini]

Why hasn't Baez or the Anthony's or Nejame hired a sketch artist to publicize a sketch of Zanny and Sister Sam?


That is EXACTLY what I wanted to know. Did Casey refuse to do one?

[barskin&co.]

I have a high fever, but No I dont think I need to rest other than having a bad flu bug do you? Why do you attack posters on a message board. Stay on topic. This is about Caylee Marie Anthony and the Lies this family has told about her, even on the witness stand. Casey isnt the only one who gave false Info in this case; read the documents. Better yet, LOOK at each PDF file of Each family members personal handwriting regarding the last day they saw this child :shrug:

Yes, they all said that on July 16. BUT, LE found out they were wrong. LE found out about the June 15 visit to the nursing home and verified it.

[Fallen Angel]

Can I say something about June 9th? Usually, Father's Day is the first Sunday in June. I have gone back to my calendar many times and was actually surprised that it fell on the 15th this year. Who would remember something like that? I'm going to go look one more time.

JMO.

mothers day = second sunday in may
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother's_Day


fathers day = third sunday in june
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father's_Day

[day2day]

I agree. Their home address was on the website, FCOL. Most people would have just sent them $$ there or given it to them at Publix (or wherever they had their hand out).

I'd be willing to bet that anyone who came in contact with any of the Anthonys were directed away from SunTrust. Remember Lee saying SunTrust didn't take PayPal.

JMO

Can't help but remember alll the envelopes the lady pulled out from the trash!! These people have held MANY fundraisers...and no searches ..
Trust is to help with searches. WHAT freakin searches.
IMO this isn't the only legal trouble these folks are gonna run into. IMO the grandparents money SHOULD have been reported as stolen.
. :shrug:

[martha]

Home address IS still on web site. Selling T-shirts and arm bands that others have said they thought were donated. Since they are also asking for donations of T-shirt and armbands sounds like it would be correct.
I think everyone would love to have a t shirt but I will not send money to the home address. the tshirts and flyer were given to the a's. There is no serch going on for caylee. or not that i know of. If caylee come home I would be glad to give money for her in a college fund or something for her. I don;t want to pay the a's bills for them. they need to go to work and get off their behinds if they or not going to look for caylee. I think they know what happened to caylee and that is why they or not looking. I know if it was me I would have to go back to work, I sure would not ask people for money when cindy had downed everyone in her tv intv. jmho:rose:

[margaritaville]

That is EXACTLY what I wanted to know. Did Casey refuse to do one?


She gave a breif discription of Z when she was questioned by LE...

[Elle]

My DD's nurse was Zenaida. She pronounced it with a strong Z (Za-ni-da).

Thank you!:)

[Joan Weiss]

Time and manner can be controlled if there are relevant laws on the books. Sometimes, public arenas can have guidelines to protest and demonstration where a petition and permits are being granted. Individual protests are a bit different. I couldn't find applicable laws regarding this on "traditional public forums for protest" which includes public sidewalks and public streets.That's because there aren't any.

I don't recall being in any war protests that required I get a permit, nor anyone else who just showed up. I don't think that's required. Public speeches with a platform and invited speakers are quite another matter.

This issue is very interesting. The HOA filed their complaint under a public nuisance law. imo

[Fallen Angel]

THUD! Third Sunday? Wow, see how easily things can get confused.
Thanks for the info.

Glad I have a calendar.

i used to get them confused when i was younger.

[Fallen Angel]

has TES had their PC today?
TIA

[rosejustrose]

That is EXACTLY what I wanted to know. Did Casey refuse to do one?

I think when it was established that Zenaida didn't exist, they didn't pursue the issue. At least I can't find where they did. Also, Casey didn't spin her snatched-in-park story until after she lawyered so they were not able to speak to her again. Any sane mother telling the truth would have given a description of the alleged kidnapper and made sure it was aired far and wide. IMO, I just don't think LE believes for one minute that anyone was involved with Caylee's disappearance but Casey. Also, IMO, I would like to see them pursue a description just in case. JMHO.

[Joan Weiss]

has TES had their PC today?
TIAI've been told this was a rumor. Glad I'm not the only one confused...

[martha]

[QUOTE=Dunnie;12164758]

Who in their right mind would believe anything George says?I sure would not he has shown his bad temper and has not done one thing to prove to everyone he is looking for caylee. I know the a' just want everyone to go away and forget caylee is missing but i don;t think people or going to do that. I guess i want be getting much news on caylee until after nov,.but maybe you good posters will keep me up to date. I always come here to see if there is any news on caylee. I want so to believe caylee is ok and this is something the a;s have cooked up to get money. then i think about the car and the trunk and the back yard. I am praying that le has a lot they have not let out to us yet. when trial time comes maybe they will tell a lot more that they have on this case. jmho:rose:

[Fallen Angel]

I've been told this was a rumor. Glad I'm not the only one confused...

yep thats what i figured :(

[Rebel Rouzer]

That is EXACTLY what I wanted to know. Did Casey refuse to do one?

With what we know since none of them have made any public pleas for tips or Caylees safe ruturn when they get in front of the media. Knowing thousand and millions are watching. I'd take a guess that they don't want to be bombarded with fake leads and hysteria over people claiming to have seen these people because they KNOW Caylee is no longer with us.

There is no other explanation for them not pleading for tips and Caylee's safe return and setting up new hotline. No sketch artist for a composite sketch of Zanny or Sam.

Heck even in the Susan Smith case they put out a sketch that was false but they still put one out there.

Both Baez and Nejame seem to be more worried about their clients public persona and appearence than looking for what they claim is a Live Caylee.

Their actions speak LOUDER than their words. IMO

[shelbar53]

on CNN.com....crime page, there is is a video link that says "caylees moms "hints at something to tell". I can't open the video link....can someone check that out?

[day2day]

"This has never been about money for the family. This is about finding Caylee alive," he said.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-092208,0,7454090.story

Ok..so tell me-WHO is searching for the "alive" Caylee
George claims he is searching 24 hrs. a day-LIE
Cindy never leaves the house. How in the world are they searching?

just askin...

:shrug:

[shelbar53]

http://http://www.cnn.com/CRIME/

[Rebel Rouzer]

I think when it was established that Zenaida didn't exist, they didn't pursue the issue. At least I can't find where they did. Also, Casey didn't spin her snatched-in-park story until after she lawyered so they were not able to speak to her again. Any sane mother telling the truth would have given a description of the alleged kidnapper and made sure it was aired far and wide. IMO, I just don't think LE believes for one minute that anyone was involved with Caylee's disappearance but Casey. Also, IMO, I would like to see them pursue a description just in case. JMHO.

Their attorneys could persue a sketch if they truly wanted to. Doesn't have to be LE

[Albini]

With what we know since none of them have made any public pleas for tips or Caylees safe ruturn when they get in front of the media. Knowing thousand and millions are watching. I'd take a guess that they don't want to be bombarded with fake leads and hysteria over people claiming to have seen these people because they KNOW Caylee is no longer with us.

There is no other explanation for them not pleading for tips and Caylee's safe return and setting up new hotline. No sketch artist for a composite sketch of Zanny or Sam.

Heck even in the Susan Smith case they put out a sketch that was false but they still put one out there.

Both Baez and Nejame seem to be more worried about their clients public persona and appearence than looking for what they claim is a Live Caylee.

Their actions speak LOUDER than their words. IMO


ITA! :flamemad:

[GrannyB]

"This has never been about money for the family. This is about finding Caylee alive," he said.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-092208,0,7454090.story

Ok..so tell me-WHO is searching for the "alive" Caylee
George claims he is searching 24 hrs. a day-LIE
Cindy never leaves the house. How in the world are they searching?

just askin...

:shrug:

Didn't Cindy say she had 3 invisible people out looking?

[cuddlyrunner]

Which means if Cindy and Casey did have daily contact the "letter" from the tow yar would not be disturbing to them. Geoerge already told the guy at the Tow yard that Casey wouldn't let them see or have contact with Caylee their granddaughter.

Of course any grandparent would be upset over not being able to see their grandchild but that would be no reason to panic and consider her missing especially if they had daily contact with Casey. Just not Caylee.


This still seems odd to me-would you discuss your business with the tow man????

[Albini]

I think when it was established that Zenaida didn't exist, they didn't pursue the issue. At least I can't find where they did. Also, Casey didn't spin her snatched-in-park story until after she lawyered so they were not able to speak to her again. Any sane mother telling the truth would have given a description of the alleged kidnapper and made sure it was aired far and wide. IMO, I just don't think LE believes for one minute that anyone was involved with Caylee's disappearance but Casey. Also, IMO, I would like to see them pursue a description just in case. JMHO.

I agree. That was my thought also.

[barskin&co.]

on CNN.com....crime page, there is is a video link that says "caylees moms "hints at something to tell". I can't open the video link....can someone check that out?
It's just a clip from Nancy Grace. It's those text messages that she sent to Mark Hawkins saying she had "something to tell him."

[nc1948]

Can't help but remember alll the envelopes the lady pulled out from the trash!! These people have held MANY fundraisers...and no searches ..
Trust is to help with searches. WHAT freakin searches.
IMO this isn't the only legal trouble these folks are gonna run into. IMO the grandparents money SHOULD have been reported as stolen.
. :shrug:

I think when this is over, all 4 will be in legal trouble.

Casey-murder
Cindy-lying to investigators,covering evidence,donation fraud
George-assault,donation fraud
Lee-big time donation fraud

[GrannyB]

This still seems odd to me-would you discuss your business with the tow man????



I was thinking the same thing. Sounds more like setting someone up to me.

[GrannyB]

We don't know do we? Just because they aren't "searching" doesn't mean they don't have their fingers in the pot. Do you want them to physically travel around the world and search?

Would you prefer they go through the bushes and shrubs, as Tim Miller did? He and all his volunteers weren't able to find a body. Where would you suggest they search?

:shrug:

Wherever they put her.

[shelbar53]

It's just a clip from Nancy Grace. It's those text messages that she sent to Mark Hawkins saying she had "something to tell him."

ok thank you

[margaritaville]

on CNN.com....crime page, there is is a video link that says "caylees moms "hints at something to tell". I can't open the video link....can someone check that out?


Casey had planned a trip to Cali to meet with her Marine friend because she had something "important" to tell him and she "couldn't tell him over the phone".
She claims that she already told her mother and brother.



quote:

Reports said investigators want to interview California friends of mom, Casey, one of them Marine Mark Hawkins (ph). He told police Casey Anthony called him in early July to say she was planning a trip to California and needed to tell him something. She told Hawkins her mother and brother know, but she wasn`t sure how he would react.

MARK WILLIAMS, WNDB NEWSTALK 1150: Well, in Casey Anthony`s world, it`s something, I have to tell you. And she was at one time apparently planning to make a trip to see a Marine person, a person in the Marine Corps by the name of Mark Hawkins, and basically, she kept texting him from the 16th of June, feverishly, basically, I have something to tell you, and you may not like it.

And it came down to the point, she said in her text, her e-mail messages and on phone calls. that her mother, Cindy, and brother, Lee, knew what she was going to tell him. But she wanted to take that trip out to California to 29 Palms to tell him in person. We don`t know really what that is. He at one time -- Mark Hawkins at one time was a security guard at Universal Studios, where Casey allegedly worked at one time.

Also, a sidebar to the story. There is speculation circulating around the area that the father of little Caylee, missing since -- for the past three months, may have been fathered by a military -- a guy who is currently in the military.

Also just in, three more charges filed against Casey Anthony stemming from her arrest earlier this week, here in Orange County, those checks -- those charges stemming from when she allegedly took the check from her friend, Amy Huizenga. They were in her car. Amy let her borrow her car while Amy went on vacation. We`re now up to 15 formal charges against Casey Anthony, a whopping 71 years in prison if convicted on all charges, Nancy.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/19/ng.01.html

[kakax]

on CNN.com....crime page, there is is a video link that says "caylees moms "hints at something to tell". I can't open the video link....can someone check that out?



It is the story about the marine, Mark Hawkins.

[trich]

[QUOTE=Dunnie;12164758]

Who in their right mind would believe anything George says?


Sorry but I did not say that about George....
I never mentioned about his cooking show.
I said the last time Caylee was known to be seen was on June 15th.
someone else added that not me.
He is a worse liar then Cindy is....can't say he is worse then Casey though.

[Rebel Rouzer]

This still seems odd to me-would you discuss your business with the tow man????

I don't know. Maybe that's just a guy thing. Women discus their business with their hair dresser and men discus their business with Tow Yard men? :shrug:

[cuddlyrunner]

does any of the a's have a my space acct now? I wonder if they get a lot of mail at home. I hope no one is sending money to the home address. where is lee? Was he caught with drugs? Why does some of george or cindy family not come on tv and sup.them? Why don;t some of the neighbors come on tv and sup. them. Have they not lived in that house for 20 years? I think the reason le has not changed the date from the 9th to the 15th is because when the trial starts they can prove casey lied to them about the dates. I sure hope this all is a scam and caylee is ok. For some reason I think Tim and his crew found something and le has it now and they or checking it and will not tell us until they have some real news on it. LE is keeping real quite right now. Has casey left the house this morning? maybe she will spend the day with her lawyer. I am sure she has missed him this week end. You know I would be so glad to eat my words if caylee is ok. I just wish if someone has her they would bring her home or put her of at the hospital and let everyone know she is ok. jmho:rose:





I'm darned sure that my neighbours would be out canvassing for my missing child and making their own appeals too!

[cassidy]

We don't know do we? Just because they aren't "searching" doesn't mean they don't have their fingers in the pot. Do you want them to physically travel around the world and search?

Would you prefer they go through the bushes and shrubs, as Tim Miller did? He and all his volunteers weren't able to find a body. Where would you suggest they search?

:shrug:
How about Casey's brain?

[GrannyB]

[QUOTE=GrannyB;12164781]


Sorry but I did not say that about George....
I never mentioned about his cooking show.
I said the last time Caylee was known to be seen was on June 15th.
someone else added that not me.
He is a worse liar then Cindy is....can't say he is worse then Casey though.


Something must be wrong with the board I know I posted what you quoted but it shows Dunnie did.

[day2day]

Didn't Cindy say she had 3 invisible people out looking?

Right. We really need an "invisble" list in this case!

[Broderick]

That's because there aren't any.

I don't recall being in any war protests that required I get a permit, nor anyone else who just showed up. I don't think that's required. Public speeches with a platform and invited speakers are quite another matter.

This issue is very interesting. The HOA filed their complaint under a public nuisance law. imo


Cities can have laws on the books, and by most accounts specific entities in demonstrations generally request permits when they are planning protests for political demonstrations to secure public spots that might be regulated in local law. Transferring those laws to "traditional public forums" from governmental agencies and existing law might be a tricky attempt for any judge. I don't blame the HOA from trying.


Simple guidelines from findlaw for instance:

Land and structures owned by the federal government are considered "public" in the sense that they are owned by the taxpayers of the United States. Not all public areas are considered public forums for free speech purposes, however, and the government can disallow speech on certain government property altogether.

The public spaces that are most open to speech - and where the government has the least amount of power to regulate - are what is known as "traditional public forums." Courts have included public sidewalks, squares and parks within this definition. The government cannot remove the right to free speech in these areas, ......

[GrannyB]

Who is "they"? I'm interested in your theory.

I believe Cindy is guilty. Probably an accident but guilty.

[day2day]

on CNN.com....crime page, there is is a video link that says "caylees moms "hints at something to tell". I can't open the video link....can someone check that out?

I couldn't open the link either :(

[tiny paw-prints]

Bet they also have a bumper sticker that reads Support Your Local Law Enforcement, too.


No such bumper sticker, yet. They do drive a "family" van for appearance sake. Under the "American flag" radar, 10 people reside in a 800sq ft pre-fab home, and they lie a lot!

[luvinlife]

Uh-oh, looks like somebody's feeling left out.....

Anthony's family spokesman Larry Garrison said there was very little money in the account and that there were no improprieties with the family.


That's his second comment in as many days. NeJame must have given him the smackdown on PR. :D




It is just nice to see he learned some new sayings.:)

[Joan Weiss]

Times have changed, haven't they. Instead of protesting the current war, which very few ever agreed with, we protest private citizens for allowing their hated daughter to stay in their home. God bless America.
:patriot:Nevertheless, the law doesn't discriminate. ;)

:patriot:

[nc1948]

I'm darned sure that my neighbours would be out canvassing for my missing child and making their own appeals too!

This has always been one of the things that has bothered me. Not only would family(extended) friends and neighbors be in and out of our house with comfort, food, support. Churches also would be there, with lots and lots of local volunteers. I have never seen such lack of support from family, friends, churches, neighbors and community as I have in this case. This really says a lot about this family to me.

[SavannahStar]

Savannah, they can stay in the house. Going out there with Hammers and a baseball bat is not in their best interests.

You can hoot and holler all day long about everyone's rights, but the bottom line, imo, is don't exacerbate the situation. imo


Joan we're talking about the HOA suit (or whatever it's called). There is no mention in that article about any request of the Anthonys to stay in their house. No court in the world would require a family to stay in their house. Geez.

[Joan Weiss]

We don't know do we? Just because they aren't "searching" doesn't mean they don't have their fingers in the pot. Do you want them to physically travel around the world and search?

Would you prefer they go through the bushes and shrubs, as Tim Miller did? He and all his volunteers weren't able to find a body. Where would you suggest they search?

:shrug:Same place they are suggesting WE search?

[Nellie]

Does anyone think they haven't charged Casey with murder yet....because they aren't REAL SURE who killed her? I mean...could they know that someone in the famiy did but they're not sure which one? Sometimes I find myself asking that question.....sorry, but I do.

[day2day]

The only invisible person in this case is Caylee, reckon the invisible searchers will really find the invisible baby? Doubtful.
Somebody already knows, cuz they have seen the invisible child.


God Bless the child :rose:

Oh Aame...You are right. At least one person knows exactly where little Caylee is..sadly i don't think she will ever speak up. It isn't in her..


jmo

[Rebel Rouzer]

We don't know do we? Just because they aren't "searching" doesn't mean they don't have their fingers in the pot. Do you want them to physically travel around the world and search?

Would you prefer they go through the bushes and shrubs, as Tim Miller did? He and all his volunteers weren't able to find a body. Where would you suggest they search?

:shrug:

TES couldn't search where they wanted and needed to in all the places they had marked to be searched.

I think searching anywhere beyond their home wuld be a good start.

Look at the other families of missing children or grandchildren. They didn't sit at home confronting people even the ones lighting candles and praying for the missing child. They didn't say "No I do not want any more searchers searching for Caylee unless they are looking fr a live Caylee"

Many of them go down and work with the Search center that is helping them. Heck even Jackie and Lee Peterson showed up to CarolSund comand center to help with what they could. There is NO excuse for the actions of these people who claim to be searching for their grandchild. IMO

[GrannyB]

You do realize that LE doesn't buy into your theory, right?



So you ar privy to what LE thinks. I don't think so. A relative of the Anthony's maybe.

[trich]

Maybe the original date on the video was the June 9th from the year before and thats why they all said the 9

th? .



I guess everyone is lying then ....nurses who swore to the fact they were there fathers day, friends who say they were with Casey and Caylee around June 12-14 and the sign in sheet that was dated the 15th.
Also the Greatgrandmother who said they all ate together after leaving th enursing home at her house.
The 9th was on a Monday and I believe the nursing home would have known it was father's day (15th)when they were there.
Oh and by the way June 9th of 2007 was on a Saturday.

[Heyes]

We don't know do we? Just because they aren't "searching" doesn't mean they don't have their fingers in the pot. Do you want them to physically travel around the world and search?

Would you prefer they go through the bushes and shrubs, as Tim Miller did? He and all his volunteers weren't able to find a body. Where would you suggest they search?

:shrug:
Hey Dunnie,

What I would prefer is to not have Lee spew this nonsense that he has people watching the people that took Caylee. Then nothing. Not another word about it. That was weeks ago
I would prefer to not hear him talk about outside of the norm or what ever expression he used to inform the public that he knows who has Caylee. But he can't tell anyone.
I would prefer to not hear things like, We know who has her and she'll be home this weekend. That was weeks ago.
I would like to hear the truth.
When I hear Cindy say there was a tip from PR and she asks us to look for Caylee, I would prefer she could at least give us a city, an area ..not, "I can't talk about that.
This family really thinks people are buying this chit?
Unbelivable!

[dixielover]

We don't know do we? Just because they aren't "searching" doesn't mean they don't have their fingers in the pot. Do you want them to physically travel around the world and search?

Would you prefer they go through the bushes and shrubs, as Tim Miller did? He and all his volunteers weren't able to find a body. Where would you suggest they search?

:shrug:


If I had all the leads that CA keeps telling everyone they had-you betcha I would travel the world to find my baby

where would they search-ask their daughter

searching is not driving that sign back and forth to Publix and back

jmo

[day2day]

It is just nice to see he learned some new sayings.:)

And Casey learned how to dial 9-1-1. Too late ..but she is learning.
JMO

[bluwaters]

I posted after one of the early Today shows with lee, cindy and george, that cindy was squeezing lee's leg in this manner, which struck me as control since she was not holding on to george at the time.JMO at that time and after watching the above interaction between george and cindy on Greta i believe it to be a control gesture by the matriarch of the clan.
Ann Curry interviews C&G and Lee on July 21's Today Show.
I think this is the interview that toadii is referring to in her post.
Cindy is holding onto George and holding Lee's leg, though, so maybe she refers to a different one.
Anyway, it was very interesting to watch this early interview again.
I had forgotten some of the early stuff.
In this video, Casey is still in jail on the original charge.
She is already the focus, more than Caylee and Cindy has begun to blame LE for arresting Casey so quickly.
She spins the tale that Casey will talk if she can get out of jail.

Today Show/July 21
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25780516
launch the video in the column on the right.

[Joan Weiss]

Joan we're talking about the HOA suit (or whatever it's called). There is no mention in that article about any request of the Anthonys to stay in their house. No court in the world would require a family to stay in their house. Geez.Oh, Savannah. I'm so disappointed in you.

Cindy's 911 call:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/18/ocsd_releases_cindy_anthonys_911_protester_call.ht ml

[SavannahStar]

The A's gave them the video as proof. The video didnt start with LE it started with the A's Barb I dont know what your point is, dont get it at all :(

It doesnt matter to me what they testified to; I do not believe that Caylee was Alive on the 15th of June; if she was.... the video was an attempt by the A;s to show exactly where THEY were. It is easy to change the dates on the dvd recordings, video camera phone or otherwise. I do NOT believe that the photo or the video was from this year. Thats just me. I believe it is a lie; the Anthony's lie and are using that tape as an alibi. Just like they are using the letter from the tow yard. The link to a nurse saying that caylee was there doesnt work, and no where does LE use the 15th as the date this child went "missing"
The Anthony's are the ones that used this as the 31 days of their script not me. Problem is they wrote down the 9th. All three of them. In writing in their statements. I think if true everyone would know what date they last saw their kid. Something happened on the 9th, and I believe that video is from another weekend, not the 15th.
Dots

:confused:

Unbelievable.

[barskin&co.]

Does anyone think they haven't charged Casey with murder yet....because they aren't REAL SURE who killed her? I mean...could they know that someone in the famiy did but they're not sure which one? Sometimes I find myself asking that question.....sorry, but I do.

Oh, I truly believe that they are sure who killed her. They are waiting (maybe) a little longer in hopes they can find remains.

[GrannyB]

:confused:

Unbelievable.

Jenny did say she had a fever today.

[Mandysmom]

Times have changed, haven't they. Instead of protesting the current war, which very few ever agreed with, we protest private citizens for allowing their hated daughter to stay in their home. God bless America.
:patriot:

No times haven't changed that much. There are still plenty of people protesting the current war, some of us actually have loved ones fighting in the current war.

What a person chooses to protest is their personal choice. As it should be.

Yes indeed, God bless America.

:patriot:

[GrannyB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nellie
Does anyone think they haven't charged Casey with murder yet....because they aren't REAL SURE who killed her? I mean...could they know that someone in the famiy did but they're not sure which one? Sometimes I find myself asking that question.....sorry, but I do.


Oh boy do I believe it.

[bchand]

Times have changed, haven't they. Instead of protesting the current war, which very few ever agreed with, we protest private citizens for allowing their hated daughter to stay in their home. God bless America.
:patriot:


I love America just the way it is.

People are more likely to protest a war when there is a draft and our young people have no choice about whether to join the armed forces IMO.

Protesting this family for allowing their daughter to sit on her A@@ in their home, and not answering ANY questions about where their precious granddaughter is a sign that Americans don't care for families who throw away their children.

Using the "lawyer won't let her" excuse is further disgusting.

Where is Caylee Jose Baez? Please don't pretend you care.

The Anthonys and Jose Baez only care about Casey. Most of the rest of us only care about Caylee.

[trich]

Originally Posted by Dunnie
We don't know do we? Just because they aren't "searching" doesn't mean they don't have their fingers in the pot. Do you want them to physically travel around the world and search?

Would you prefer they go through the bushes and shrubs, as Tim Miller did? He and all his volunteers weren't able to find a body. Where would you suggest they search?


Well the Antonys certainly expected LE and everyone else to go search around the world.
Mexico, Puerta Rico, NC and I think even Tx was mentioned.
If someone is/was watching the kidnappers then why have they not told the authorities.
Such lies....people think about it most of what they are saying is not even logical.
If it doesn't makes sense it most likely is not true....another Judge Judy saying Ibelieve.

[Joan Weiss]

No times haven't changed that much. There are still plenty of people protesting the current war, some of us actually have loved ones fighting in the current war.

What a person chooses to protest is their personal choice. As it should be.

Yes indeed, God bless America.

:patriot:I'll second that. :patriot:

[GrannyB]

No, just someone who has heard the numerous news reports that Cindy and George have cooperated fully, and are NOT persons of interest. Did you miss those reports?

Do you really believe anything LE releases is for our benefit? It's not.
It is for the Anthony's to hear. And LE can lie all they want to catch the Anthony's. If LE knew which one of them did it they would be in jail right now on murder charges.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Hey, I'll go to Puerto Rico, Mexico and Texas. Anyone one to foot the bill?

:)


What do you think the Trust fund and donations were set up for? *To search for Caylee*

[marshmallow]

Reports said investigators want to interview California friends of mom, Casey, one of them Marine Mark Hawkins (ph). He told police Casey Anthony called him in early July to say she was planning a trip to California and needed to tell him something. She told Hawkins her mother and brother know, but she wasn`t sure how he would react.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/19/ng.01.html




it always seems like George is the odd man out.

[Joan Weiss]

No, just someone who has heard the numerous news reports that Cindy and George have cooperated fully, and are NOT persons of interest. Did you miss those reports?I missed them. Do you have links to them? I'd love to read them. TIA

[kaylynn]

Another Possible Caylee Sighting (with pictures)

http://wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/05562_Possible_Caylee_Anthony_Sighting_071016.html

[Mandysmom]

Joan we're talking about the HOA suit (or whatever it's called). There is no mention in that article about any request of the Anthonys to stay in their house. No court in the world would require a family to stay in their house. Geez.

The police asked them to remain in the house to avoid confrontation and possible injury.

The HOA recognizes that they have been under stress and provocation by some, but they have taken the bait and gone outside to have confrontations with the protestors, thereby making it worse.

They want the protestors gone, and the Anthony's to stop going out to confront them. Can you blame them? :shrug:

[kakax]

I'm wondering since the atty for the HOA has included the Anthony's in the lawsuit, would they also include News Organizations with their vans?
Just getting worried I won't have my eye in Orlando :chicken:

[GrannyB]

What's your point? They have protesters outside their house screaming baby killer, etc. You can bet your sweet azz I'd be sitting in my house too for fear of being shot.

what a circus! And Caylee is the one lost in all this "drama".

JMO.

:rose:

To bad the Anthony's did sit in their house. Instead they went outside with a baseball bat and took on the protestors. But then they are the Anthony's and are entitled to do whatever they want.

[Joan Weiss]

What's your point? They have protesters outside their house screaming baby killer, etc. You can bet your sweet azz I'd be sitting in my house too for fear of being shot.

what a circus! And Caylee is the one lost in all this "drama".

JMO.

:rose:Dunnie, the point is they're NOT sitting in their house. There were no reports of guns involved in any protests.

The Anthonys are exacerbating the situation and inciting violence, imo, with their Hammers and the bat. What don't you get about that?

jmo

[frances1]

I am so tired of these interviewers, Dr. Phil, Nancy Grace, Geraldo, not being up to date on the latest lies. No one ever calls them on it. Sure wish Judge Judy would interview them. She knows a liar when she sees one. I love it when she asks a potential witness is they are sure they want to testify. Most times they get the message and say no.

So true. Don't these people have fact checkers?

[kakax]

Another Possible Caylee Sighting (with pictures)

http://wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/05562_Possible_Caylee_Anthony_Sighting_071016.html



I'm no expert, but the little girl's hairline looks different as does the texture of her hair.

[Albini]

No, just someone who has heard the numerous news reports that Cindy and George have cooperated fully, and are NOT persons of interest. Did you miss those reports?

They have said this before..and then arrested the very people they publically said were not suspects. It has happened, esp when the LE wants to keep what they know off the radar.

But, I truely dont feel they had any idea that when Caylee walked out of thier home, it would be the last time they saw her. I dont think they killed her.

I feel that MAYBE George saw Caylees body in the trunk. OR something suspicious. That is why they havent really searched for her. But again its my opinion.

And God Bless America (and Canada) we are ALL allowed our opinions andwe are ALL allowed to voice them on here.

[day2day]

Another Possible Caylee Sighting (with pictures)

http://wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/05562_Possible_Caylee_Anthony_Sighting_071016.html

I really wish the pics were better. (i don't ask for much do i?!)

thanks for the link!

[Joan Weiss]

Yes. Please look on the links thread. I'm sure you will find what you are looking for.OK, no links for you, either. :rolleyes:

[day2day]

You know the protesters were getting crazy!

And the homeowners-hammers and bats!

[Albini]

I'm no expert, but the little girl's hairline looks different as does the texture of her hair.


She looks like most 2-3 year olds. Including my own daughter. Who looks like Caylee. I would honestly be surprised if that was her. I guess we wait and see.

[SavannahStar]

Oh, Savannah. I'm so disappointed in you.

Cindy's 911 call:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/18/ocsd_releases_cindy_anthonys_911_protester_call.ht ml

Can you tell me your point...what you are trying to say.....in your own words.....cuz I don't have time to listen to a tape right now. TIA.

[kakax]

I really wish the pics were better. (i don't ask for much do i?!)

thanks for the link!


This little girl doesn't have bangs....I don't think bangs could grow out that quickly.

[steffaroob4]

Another Possible Caylee Sighting (with pictures)

http://wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/05562_Possible_Caylee_Anthony_Sighting_071016.html

where did caylee's bangs go? I can't even see a similarity there to think anything, this little girl pictured looks heavier, too.

[Rebel Rouzer]

What's your point? They have protesters outside their house screaming baby killer, etc. You can bet your sweet azz I'd be sitting in my house too for fear of being shot.

what a circus! And Caylee is the one lost in all this "drama".

JMO.

:rose:

Well to address this snotty uncalled for post. My point was addressing your post and IMO I thought I did a pretty good job of it. This family has not made a concerted effort to find Caylee alive or deceased.

That is the reason the public has become outraged with them and their behavior. They have asked the public to do more than they are willing to do for their own flesh and blood. One thing you have said that is absolutely correct is that Caylee has been lost in all the drama and part of the blame and responsibility for that lies with the Anthony family. IMO

[nc1948]

So true. Don't these people have fact checkers?


NO, Plus sometimes I don't even think they have read news reports or any other info. Sometimes they are so dense. It is funny tho, how they will say Breaking News and when it comes on it is stuff we have discussed 3 or 4 days ago.

[st777jo]

I'm no expert, but the little girl's hairline looks different as does the texture of her hair.

And Caylee has Bangs. Even with her hair pulled, the bangs would have fallen down. No, I don't believe its Caylee. jmo

[Boxer]

IMO, cooperating fully just means that they were meeting with LE and answering questions asked. It does not mean that they were truthful or interested in anything other than getting and keeping Casey out of jail.


My "cooperating fully" would include a polygraph since there have been many deceptive statement, forgotten details and even a few AHA! moments.

[tiny paw-prints]

No times haven't changed that much. There are still plenty of people protesting the current war, some of us actually have loved ones fighting in the current war.

What a person chooses to protest is their personal choice. As it should be.

Yes indeed, God bless America.

:patriot:

"Yes indeed, God bless America" :patriot:

However, my visual perception of the Anthony home with the American flag, caution tape, no trespassing signs, and no physical search for a toddler Caylee--renders me with a mental condition of 150% absolute confusion!

[Tessie]

Lawbreakers don't generally report the fact that they are going to bring a gun to the place they will be starting trouble. Since when isn't a homeowner allowed to have a h ammer or a bat?


When they leave their home to confront others? Now if one had tried to climb into the window or break down their door then it would be alright.

[GrannyB]

Lawbreakers don't generally report the fact that they are going to bring a gun to the place they will be starting trouble. Since when isn't a homeowner allowed to have a h ammer or a bat?

Who said they couldn't have a hammer or bat? We were all commenting how they ignored 911 telling them to stay inside and went outside and confronted the protestors. Shows arrogance and lack of good sense to me.

[Lostgirl]

I have not watched the show yet. I did provide links to 2 pages from Dr. Phil's website that do include quotes from LP and RD. I did not see any quote by Rob saying he drove Casey around in search of Caylee for nine days. The show comes on at 3:00 and I am planning on watching.

IMO, the above is a teaser wrote by one of Dr. Phil's staff members.

and I'll be doing the same thing

ALL i said was that on the Dr Phil website it says Rob said he drove casey around for 9 days looking for caylee (which it does) and I also watched a youtube last night where Leonard Padilla says HE drove casey around for 9 days looking for caylee (that i saw with my own eyes and heard him say with my own ears)

For all i know they are all nuts, maybe Dr Phil lies like a rug, maybe Rob Dick is a liar, maybe Padilla is a bigger liar than Casey!

I have no way of knowing if it's true and i never said i did

:shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

That tidbit was offered up by a reporter. She said that she had spoken with a spokesperson with TES and they (TES) told her that there was some "big developments" in this case that would be "surprising". She also said that TES told her that they had been in "constant contact" with OCSO since they left and "would be back, one way or the other".

She did not, however, mention anything about a press conference.

Yep. I saw and heard that news clip also. Don't remember if it was Wesh or Fox35 or other though.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[bluwaters]

TES couldn't search where they wanted and needed to in all the places they had marked to be searched.

I think searching anywhere beyond their home wuld be a good start.

Look at the other families of missing children or grandchildren. They didn't sit at home confronting people even the ones lighting candles and praying for the missing child. They didn't say "No I do not want any more searchers searching for Caylee unless they are looking fr a live Caylee"

Many of them go down and work with the Search center that is helping them. Heck even Jackie and Lee Peterson showed up to CarolSund comand center to help with what they could. There is NO excuse for the actions of these people who claim to be searching for their grandchild. IMO
Right. Correct me if I am wrong, but Mark Lunsford has not been involved with the Anthony's. Josh Duckett did search for Caylee with EquuSearch despite Cindy's attempt to undermine Tim Miller's search.

[GrannyB]

IMO, cooperating fully just means that they were meeting with LE and answering questions asked. It does not mean that they were truthful or interested in anything other than getting and keeping Casey out of jail.


My "cooperating fully" would include a polygraph since there have been many deceptive statement, forgotten details and even a few AHA! moments.

Most parents of missing children are begging to take a polygraph quickly so LE will get on with looking for their child. The Anthony's are causing themselves to look guilty by their words and actions.

[Joan Weiss]

Lawbreakers don't generally report the fact that they are going to bring a gun to the place they will be starting trouble. Since when isn't a homeowner allowed to have a h ammer or a bat?Lesson number one, don't provide your attacker with a weapon. ;)

Secondly, approaching them with a weapon suggests that a person had better be prepared for violence. That's what Cindy and George are suggesting.

I submit that if the Anthonys hadn't started doing that, there wouldn't be any discussion of violence. imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

Right. Correct me if I am wrong, but Mark Lunsford has not been involved with the Anthony's. Josh Duckett did search for Caylee with EquuSearch despite Cindy's attempt to undermine Tim Miller's search.

I didn't personally see Josh Duckett but there were people there wearing Trenton Tshirts.

[SavannahStar]

There's a glitch in the software. The quotes get off sometimes. They are doing it right.

All a person needs to do when that happens is when they are typing their response, LOOK at what's above it, and if it contains any posters' name in quote tags that isn't part of the quote they want to quote, take those out. It's simple.

[Heyes]

snipping to address.

I thought George said it, not Lee? :shrug:

It was George! Thank you!
Off to get some coffee~>>>>>

[day2day]

This little girl doesn't have bangs....I don't think bangs could grow out that quickly.

As much as my mind tells me that Caylee is in heaven. My heart wants her to be alive. These "sightings" make my heart stop. At least they are checking them out. And yep no bangs-no Caylee -sadly :(

[SavannahStar]

The police asked them to remain in the house to avoid confrontation and possible injury.

The HOA recognizes that they have been under stress and provocation by some, but they have taken the bait and gone outside to have confrontations with the protestors, thereby making it worse.

They want the protestors gone, and the Anthony's to stop going out to confront them. Can you blame them? :shrug:

That's not the point though. The point is how can any authority tell the Anthonys they MUST stay in their house? I don't get that.

Sure I feel sorry for the neighbors. But that's irrelevant.

[Fallen Angel]

Right. Correct me if I am wrong, but Mark Lunsford has not been involved with the Anthony's. Josh Duckett did search for Caylee with EquuSearch despite Cindy's attempt to undermine Tim Miller's search.

you are correct.

[Rayosunshine]

Now, now....Cindy said that not all the phone calls showed up on the phone records.

:no:

:D

It's always the invisible ones that are a problem

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[tiny paw-prints]

No, just someone who has heard the numerous news reports that Cindy and George have cooperated fully, and are NOT persons of interest. Did you miss those reports?


Yeah. Casey also cooperated! George, Cindy and Lee have also cooperated!!! Each of them have lied while cooperating!!!

None of them have been named a suspect or person of interest.

I haven't missed a single report, have you?

:rose: Justice for sweet Caylee

[bchand]

Another Possible Caylee Sighting (with pictures)

http://wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/05562_Possible_Caylee_Anthony_Sighting_071016.html

I know the photo is small, but I see a little girl with frizzy hair and no bangs at all.

What did you think kaylynn?

[GrannyB]

:patriot:

Kudos. You did it right this time.

I think they did the right thing by calling the cops on the protesters. You are correct, they should not have confronted the protesters. However, in their defense, maybe they were driven beyond the brink and felt as though they had to protect their property, which is when they put up the no trespassing signs and tape. I don't know, just an opinion.

If one of them had a little self control they couldn't let a few protestors words drive them to stupidity. Actually a little more self control and we wouldn't be wondering what happened to Caylee.
Apparently their property is more important to them than Caylee.

[kakax]

That's not the point though. The point is how can any authority tell the Anthonys they MUST stay in their house? I don't get that.

Sure I feel sorry for the neighbors. But that's irrelevant.



Have they? The only time I have heard anyone say for them to stay inside was a 911 operator. She was trying to keep the A's from getting hurt, IMO.

[Joan Weiss]

Can you tell me your point...what you are trying to say.....in your own words.....cuz I don't have time to listen to a tape right now. TIA.It's not a tape, it's a transcript. Should take you about 5 seconds to read. 10 if you're slow. What it says is in my OP to you, which you disputed.

[bchand]

Free advertisement...sad. And the camera only caught a picture of this woman and 'Caylee' ..but not 'Casey'...yea ok. next.

They just couldn't capture the pic of Casey right? I agree - next.

[Fallen Angel]

Polygraphs..... what a crock of crap. If you are on any medication whatsoever, like blood pressure medicine, it will skew the results. They aren't proven to be "fail safe" and aren't admissable in a court of law.

So, what's the point?

the point is the family won't take one but the friends will.........i find that ODD to say the least. :no:

[summer4meplz]

in Tulsa, we waste two hours per day on Phil McGraw...3pm and 6 pm, two different stations


I didn't know that Boxer, thanks...I can catch the early one...

[bluwaters]

Another Possible Caylee Sighting (with pictures)

http://wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/05562_Possible_Caylee_Anthony_Sighting_071016.html
That's interesting!
To me, the child does not look like Caylee.
Too bad the "Casey" look-a-like isn't pictured.

[Mandysmom]

That's not the point though. The point is how can any authority tell the Anthonys they MUST stay in their house? I don't get that.

Sure I feel sorry for the neighbors. But that's irrelevant.

Well I suppose they can hang out in front and fight with protestors if they wish.

However, the HOA can also get an injunction to stop this vigil and fighting nonsense.

I believe that is what they are trying to do. If they want to have a vigil, they can invite the public or whomever they want, to come to a church or other neutral site.

The neighbors shouldn't and don't have to put up with it constantly.

:)

[GrannyB]

All a person needs to do when that happens is when they are typing their response, LOOK at what's above it, and if it contains any posters' name in quote tags that isn't part of the quote they want to quote, take those out. It's simple.

When I quoted the post that had Dunnie instead of my name it showed my name while I was typing the response and Dunnie's name when it showed on the thread.:confused:

[Joan Weiss]

Polygraphs..... what a crock of crap. If you are on any medication whatsoever, like blood pressure medicine, it will skew the results. They aren't proven to be "fail safe" and aren't admissable in a court of law.

So, what's the point?Victim here of defense attys hyperbole, imo.

Tell that to Marc Klass. ;)

[SavannahStar]

Have they? The only time I have heard anyone say for them to stay inside was a 911 operator. She was trying to keep the A's from getting hurt, IMO.


No, they haven't! So that goes right back to my first post about all this......what is the HOA asking of the Anthonys? When I read the article it said something about they wanted to limit times/duration of protests etc. And I asked how could the Anthonys do that? The only thing they could do (and have done) is stop the vigils.

So I don't understand this, and I feel like I'm going in circles. Maybe someone could explain what HOA is expecting to accomplishing by also naming the Anthonys. :shrug:

[nc1948]

Protesters driving them to the end, but not the missing baby? Something wrong here imo.

Very well said. This was, is and always should be about Caylee.

[Unperson1984]

This little girl doesn't have bangs....I don't think bangs could grow out that quickly.

That was my first thought too.

[Boxer]

Polygraphs..... what a crock of crap. If you are on any medication whatsoever, like blood pressure medicine, it will skew the results. They aren't proven to be "fail safe" and aren't admissable in a court of law.

So, what's the point?


the point is, that they should have at least offered as have many others including Mark Klaas and Mark Lunsford.

[GrannyB]

That's not the point though. The point is how can any authority tell the Anthonys they MUST stay in their house? I don't get that.

Sure I feel sorry for the neighbors. But that's irrelevant.

I don't think they can tell them to stay inside. Only give them good advise. It's up to them if they want to stay inside or go outside and risk hurting someone and maybe even going to jail. It's so easy to just stay inside.

[SavannahStar]

the point is the family won't take one but the friends will.........i find that ODD to say the least. :no:

Keep in mind we've yet to hear any official confirmation that the Anthonys' refused LDTs. That info came from Padilla and Padilla alone, to my knowledge.

[kakax]

No, they haven't! So that goes right back to my first post about all this......what is the HOA asking of the Anthonys? When I read the article it said something about they wanted to limit times/duration of protests etc. And I asked how could the Anthonys do that? The only thing they could do (and have done) is stop the vigils.

So I don't understand this, and I feel like I'm going in circles. Maybe someone could explain what HOA is expecting to accomplishing by also naming the Anthonys. :shrug:



Oh, I'm sorry I didn't read your original post. It wasn't explained exactly what the HOA's expectations were of the A's in the article. I assumed that it had to do with the vigils. Over the weekend, I read that the HOA wanted the Anthony's to move the vigils to another spot because it invited problems with protesters.

[?noanswer]

That's interesting!
To me, the child does not look like Caylee.
Too bad the "Casey" look-a-like isn't pictured.


I think the article said Casey was not with them. I agree the picture does not look like Caylee. Did it say the date the video was taken was 7-10? If so, that is over 2 months ago. I didn't think businesses kept tapes that long. Also, I don't think I would have remembered that much detail. JMO

[Mandysmom]

Polygraphs..... what a crock of crap. If you are on any medication whatsoever, like blood pressure medicine, it will skew the results. They aren't proven to be "fail safe" and aren't admissable in a court of law.

So, what's the point?

You know, or should know that their attorney could arrange for a polygraph and the results wouldn't be known to anyone.

Unless of course, those results were to their advantage. If they had taken one privately, and passed, don't you think it would be the first thing they'd be throwing out there?

:confused:

[Fallen Angel]

Victim here of defense attys hyperbole, imo.

Tell that to Marc Klass. ;)

John Walsh & His wife
Mark Lundsford & His parents
Marc Klass & His wife
Brenda Van Dam & Her husband


ALL took poly's............. they had NOTHING to hide. :rose:

[Armchairdet]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17526921/detail.html

I have not read today's thread yet, so this may be asked and answered. I wonder what the HOA hopes to accomplish by adding the Anthonys to the court action?

[dixielover]

Do you really believe anything LE releases is for our benefit? It's not.
It is for the Anthony's to hear. And LE can lie all they want to catch the Anthony's. If LE knew which one of them did it they would be in jail right now on murder charges.


I don't think so- I think they are just sitting back and waiting-what is their hurry to change her with murder- she is already going on trial in November. They even have on tape on these charges. I think LE is smart to wait. jm o

[Lostgirl]

No problem .. but you were insisting the teaser quote from the site was a fact this morning.

whatever

you came on here INSISTING that i was confused... i wasnt confused... it DOES say that on the Dr Phil site and thats a fact!

go pester someone else with your idiotic comments

:punch:

[trich]

That's interesting!
To me, the child does not look like Caylee.
Too bad the "Casey" look-a-like isn't pictured.

I agree.
That is ridiculous......from that picture that does not even resemble Caylee.
Some of these people have lost it ......I heard that 2 other sightings the people had to show the birth cirtificates for their kids and one was actually 5 in stead of 3.
I think people have gone crazy with sightings.

[GrannyB]

Polygraphs..... what a crock of crap. If you are on any medication whatsoever, like blood pressure medicine, it will skew the results. They aren't proven to be "fail safe" and aren't admissable in a court of law.

So, what's the point?

No point at all. I guess we are all mistaken and the Anthony's are saints.

[Pruddennce]

No, just someone who has heard the numerous news reports that Cindy and George have cooperated fully, and are NOT persons of interest. Did you miss those reports?

I dont recall LE giving a press conference stating that the Anthony family has been cleared. nor do I recall them saying they have not been cleared.

best regards,
Pru

[SavannahStar]

Oh, I'm sorry I didn't read your original post. It wasn't explained exactly what the HOA's expectations were of the A's in the article. I assumed that it had to do with the vigils. Over the weekend, I read that the HOA wanted the Anthony's to move the vigils to another spot because it invited problems with protesters.

Ah okay THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! Whew!

[nc1948]

Big black cloud back over the Anthonys house. Seems like it is always there.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Don't judge someone until you walk in their shoes.

Is that less "snotty". LOL. :tongue:

How do you know what I have and haven't done as far as walking in anyones shoes besides my own?

Is it less snotty of me to say that Cindy & George haven't walked in my shoes either which by the way were used to search for THEIR grandchild Caylee. Thats more than they have done IMO

[day2day]

Victim here of defense attys hyperbole, imo.

Tell that to Marc Klass. ;)

Thank you. :seeya:

[GrannyB]

I don't think so- I think they are just sitting back and waiting-what is their hurry to change her with murder- she is already going on trial in November. They even have on tape on these charges. I think LE is smart to wait. jm o

We weren't talking about charging Casey. We were talking about charging the person who is guilty.

[kakax]

And didn't he hear it second hand from someone he had "inside" the house. Padilla sure screwed this up. JMO.

LP actually said Lee was the one that told him.

[jessjam]

I don't have a problem with the bank closing the account. I do have a problem with Lee collecting funds personally.

I agree. Lee's account and also the account on their website where you are able to send funds directly to their home is very wrong and does not sit right with me at all.

[rosejustrose]

:patriot:

Kudos. You did it right this time.

I think they did the right thing by calling the cops on the protesters. You are correct, they should not have confronted the protesters. However, in their defense, maybe they were driven beyond the brink and felt as though they had to protect their property, which is when they put up the no trespassing signs and tape. I don't know, just an opinion.

Hey Dunnie. The tape and sign were up when the bat incident happened and when Cindy weilded her hammer she was out there adjusting the tape and signs at midnight. I respect the Anthonys right to live in peace and to be able to go outside their home whenever the choose. What I can't support is when they choose to go out of their home. It appears they like confrontation and that's the impression they are leaving other people with when they see them on the nightly news. JMO.

[marshmallow]

That's not the point though. The point is how can any authority tell the Anthonys they MUST stay in their house? I don't get that.

Sure I feel sorry for the neighbors. But that's irrelevant.


if th law can remove the cameras and the protesters/supporters the Anthony's can't claim they're provoked (and I think they are but they also lack selfcontrol). At the least, the court can set limitations on the time people are congregating. They could make it for ex. 9am - 7pm and LE could enforce the curfew. Anyone disregards the set times would be arrested and fined. If the family still feels unsafe they can continue to hire bodyguards at their own cost.
This would allow the neighbors to regain their lives.
And the Anthony's can have more quality time together.

[dixie77]

from Sean Krause........if u would like to read it............


http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=849

[Rayosunshine]

Good afternoon everyone


Z's moms name is 'Gloria Gonzales'
Z's stepdad's name is 'Victor Fernandez'

Wouldn't Z's name be Zenaida Gonzales-Fernandes?

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Casey pronounciates Zenaida with a definate z sound followed y a soft e sound.

Could someone familiar with this name help me out here:)

Wouldn't the z have more of an s sound, or at least a s/z sound? And wouldn't she be Zenny or (s)zenny with a soft e sound and not Zanny with an a as in the word 'and' sound?
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I do not believe their is a real person zanny the nanny, or any Zenaida that ever watched Caylee. I do believe that Casey has told people there is a zanny the nanny, and when time was running out had to come up with something, maybe she couldn't find any Zanaides or Zandras that imo would make more sense having the nickname Zanny. I realize I am splitting hairs over something I believe to be fictitious, but it bothers me nonetheless so I thought I'd share (everyone in my family is tired of me)
imo, moo, jmho, jmo, imho

I found it interesting that Casey did pronounce the name , Zenaida, precisely as it should be pronounced. I noticed the pronounced the "d" using the Spanish pronounciation, not the English one. The Spanish 'd' does not sound like the 'd' in dad, does, do. It has more of a "th" sound.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[dixie77]

Oh brother, let me get my violin. :rolleyes:

When are you going to stop trying to play the hero?

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Thats a terrible thing to say. Did u go out and search for Caylee? not

[Joan Weiss]

I dont recall LE giving a press conference stating that the Anthony family has been cleared. nor do I recall them saying they have not been cleared.

best regards,
PruI don't, either. The poster has refused to provide links, h/she expects us to peruse 16 pages of links to prove h/her statements. What does that tell you? ;)

[Boxer]

http://www.polygraph.com/ Check this out.

ALWAYS PASS YOUR POLYGRAPH TEST - NERVOUS OR NOT - LYING OR NOT - NO MATTER WHAT - GUARANTEED!

I read some info but did not order his course in passing a polygraph. It costs too much.....


http://www.polygraph.com/

[BJames]

Aaack this case makes me (more) bonkers!

At different times I have tried to put myself in Casey's situation (I was a young mother once), and Cindy's situation (no grandkids yet...can't wait, but don't tell anyone)...I just can't find myself in either one of them.
It just seems like what is going on right now is soooo not about Caylee, actually it almost feels like this poor little girl never existed??
I have tried to 'think' of myself having 'confronted' my daughter about theft (!?!), and having her leave in an angry state with my grandchild...ok..She stays in contact via cellphone with me 'everyday', yet...I haven't spoken with nor seen the baby in this time...and I get a notice that the car she was using was 'abandoned'? Would I be 'smart' enough to find a paper in the vehicle, call that name to track her down?...We leave that apartment without my grandchild?..And I don't call 911 then?...She's with the 'nanny'...while the daughter is sitting on her butt...? I don't get it....I just don't 'get' how Cindy believed a word out of her mouth?
I hear a 'difference' in Cindy's voice on the third 911 call...what I can't wrap my head around is that it got that far before Cindy got worried..no baby for 30+ days? And she knew very well how much of a liar Casey was/is? Too much...

Just my opinion of course...

[kakax]

I agree. Lee's account and also the account on their website where you are able to send funds directly to their home is very wrong and does not sit right with me at all.


I also agree with that. It seems like they were trying to circumvent the official trust site.
We know that the State's Attorney's office is looking into it. It will all come out where the funds were deposited and how they were used.

[?noanswer]

if th law can remove the cameras and the protesters/supporters the Anthony's can't claim they're provoked (and I think they are but they also lack selfcontrol). At the least, the court can set limitations on the time people are congregating. They could make it for ex. 9am - 7pm and LE could enforce the curfew. Anyone disregards the set times would be arrested and fined. If the family still feels unsafe they can continue to hire bodyguards at their own cost.
This would allow the neighbors to regain their lives.
And the Anthony's can have more quality time together.

I wonder if "the law" wants to have the cameras removed. If anything hanky panky goes on, it would be caught on camera and be used as evidence. (Are the images recorded for future use?) JMO

[GrannyB]

if th law can remove the cameras and the protesters/supporters the Anthony's can't claim they're provoked (and I think they are but they also lack selfcontrol). At the least, the court can set limitations on the time people are congregating. They could make it for ex. 9am - 7pm and LE could enforce the curfew. Anyone disregards the set times would be arrested and fined. If the family still feels unsafe they can continue to hire bodyguards at their own cost.
This would allow the neighbors to regain their lives.
And the Anthony's can have more quality time together.


Anthony's and quality time? Sounds like an oxymoron to me.

[Unperson1984]

That's not the point though. The point is how can any authority tell the Anthonys they MUST stay in their house? I don't get that.

Sure I feel sorry for the neighbors. But that's irrelevant.

You're right, they can't be ordered to stay in their house. That isn't what the HOA is asking of the Anthony's, they are asking them to not hold vigils in their yard. The Anthony's have complied and stopped the Sunday night vigils.

[toadii]

Maybe they are proud to be Americans.
:patriot:
oh my stars:eek:
do you think its the one from the 4th of July party?

[frances1]

Can you tell me your point...what you are trying to say.....in your own words.....cuz I don't have time to listen to a tape right now. TIA.

It isn't a tape; it's a written transcript, and very short.

[Joan Weiss]

Thanks. I thought her arms looked chunkier that Caylee's.I can't find the link, but if the child doesn't have bald spots on the sides of her hair from wearing tight pony tails, I'd say it's not her. Just recalling the Father's Day video...

imo

[Boxer]

Oh brother, let me get my violin. :rolleyes:

When are you going to stop trying to play the hero?

that was uncalled for. Rebel has never tried to play the hero. She has always maintained that she is open minded to the facts of the case. She simply did what Cindy asked. She got off her arse and LOOKED for Caylee, a relatively obscure thought in the Anthony home.

[Joan Weiss]

Rebel dont let what the haters say to you bother you..you and others helped search and to me thats a very good thing. Jealousy is a hard thing to overcome for some.

You did more than the family themselves have done. IMOITA! :beer:

[SavannahStar]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17526921/detail.html

I have not read today's thread yet, so this may be asked and answered. I wonder what the HOA hopes to accomplish by adding the Anthonys to the court action?

I've been asking that myself this morning and the most I can figure from reading on here is "stay in the house" which of course will never fly.

(However, read kakax's post......that makes more sense. To stop the at-home, in the front yard vigils. Which I think the Anthonys already did, or at least the last one.)

[GrannyB]

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Thats a terrible thing to say. Did u go out and search for Caylee? not

ITA It was just plain uncalled for. It sounded like something Cindy would say to Tim Miller.

[Joan Weiss]

It isn't a tape; it's a written transcript, and very short.

I think that's an avoidance of the issue...Takes less time to read it than the post about that...imo

[day2day]

Oh brother, let me get my violin. :rolleyes:

When are you going to stop trying to play the hero?

Listen up DG....SHE is a hero. She spent her OWN money-her OWN valuable time (away from HER family and friends to search for Caylee)
SHE is a hero in my book.
Didn't Cindy tell people to get off their AZZ and go search for Caylee? Well she did...too bad George, Cindy, Lee and Casey haven't!
jmo

[Rebel Rouzer]

Rebel dont let what the haters say to you bother you..you and others helped search and to me thats a very good thing. Jealousy is a hard thing to overcome for some.

You did more than the family themselves have done. IMO

They don't bother me. I was just making a point about being in other peoples shoes etc. They will run with this and it doesn't bother me a bit. Expected from some actually.

ANYONE who searched or is searcing has done more than the Anthony's have IMO Thats the point.

[Lostgirl]

Excessive hostility!
Not a big deal .. but you WERE confused... I believe you still are.


no YOU were confused, and insisting that it was impossible that rob or LP said that and everyone should ignore my post because i was confused.

I HEARD LP SAY IT MYSELF WHILE HE IS SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ROB IN AN INTERVIEW!

and on the Dr phil site it says that Rob says the same damn thing that i heard LP say!

hammer

[Boxer]

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Thats a terrible thing to say. Did u go out and search for Caylee? not


She's/He's organizing a search. Do a post search on her/him from about three or four weeks ago:D

[kakax]

Look at this ....

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=844

Notice I was mentioned for firing up this story on this MB.

Sunday seemed to be media day for many, as my name was whored out there, like Casey Anthony on a street corner in Orlando, Florida. From Greta Wire, Websleuths (I do have love for you all and yes, I did post some messages on the Emory case a while back, just so you’re aware, it is the right Krause), kakax firing up the linkage at InSession, and a plethora of others, along with marriage proposals, cancer cards, etc. This case isn’t about me, it’s about Casey Anthony. I thank you for your warm receptive comments, but back to business.


Hmm, didn't realize I was w****ing him out. What I asked of us here at IS was who is this guy? How would he know about a TES press conference?

[Rayosunshine]

http://www.polygraph.com/ Check this out.


I a person were on beta-blocker or antianxiety/antidepressent meds they would pass with flying colors.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[rosejustrose]

No, they haven't! So that goes right back to my first post about all this......what is the HOA asking of the Anthonys? When I read the article it said something about they wanted to limit times/duration of protests etc. And I asked how could the Anthonys do that? The only thing they could do (and have done) is stop the vigils.

So I don't understand this, and I feel like I'm going in circles. Maybe someone could explain what HOA is expecting to accomplishing by also naming the Anthonys. :shrug:


Hi, SS! Maybe it's something as simple as ensuring that the Anthonys not conduct vigils in their driveway anymore. I'm sure HOA attorneys are smart enough to figure out that the Anthonys have no control over the protestors. But, and I'm not sure they could, maybe they also want to ensure the Anthonys don't go out an engage the protesters anymore, just call LE. IMO, that's about all they can ask them to do.

[trich]

Rebel dont let what the haters say to you bother you..you and others helped search and to me thats a very good thing. Jealousy is a hard thing to overcome for some.

You did more than the family themselves have done. IMO


Exactly....

[GrannyB]

They don't bother me. I was just making a point about being in other peoples shoes etc. They will run with this and it doesn't bother me a bit. Expected from some actually.

ANYONE who searched or is searcing has done more than the Anthony's have IMO Thats the point.


I think it was fantastic that you went and searched. Hero in my book.:beer:

[Boxer]

I a person were on beta-blocker or antianxiety/antidepressent meds they would pass with flying colors.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

the guy on that site is selling his product

[SavannahStar]

You're right, they can't be ordered to stay in their house. That isn't what the HOA is asking of the Anthony's, they are asking them to not hold vigils in their yard. The Anthony's have complied and stopped the Sunday night vigils.

Thanks, Unperson, and all the others who answered. Now I understand. When the link was posted early this morning that certainly wasn't made clear. There was a lot of "spin" though. :) :seeya:

[rosejustrose]

I don't think they can tell them to stay inside. Only give them good advise. It's up to them if they want to stay inside or go outside and risk hurting someone and maybe even going to jail. It's so easy to just stay inside.

And it is their right if they choose to exercise it. JMO.

[trich]

I a person were on beta-blocker or antianxiety/antidepressent meds they would pass with flying colors.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom


Well I am sure there would be a record of a person being on prescription meds to start with.
that wold have been taken into consideration I am sure.

[Joan Weiss]

I a person were on beta-blocker or antianxiety/antidepressent meds they would pass with flying colors.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomAre you suggesting the Anthonys are all on those drugs? News flash, the drugs are not working for Cindy and George. ;)

imo

[Boxer]

This board should be about Caylee, and not the continue pats on the back and the "look at me, look at me!" repeatedly posted from anyone who has supposedly gone to search for her, PERIOD.

Rebel cannot control what other posters post, but you know that.

[KittenCakes7]

Anyone see this article? I know it's in Alabama, but it's only about an 11 hour drive from Orlando...

Dog Finds Child's Foot in Russellville, AL
http://www.whnt.com/Global/story.asp?S=9048374

[luvinlife]

oh my stars:eek:
do you think its the one from the 4th of July party?



According to Exit13 the guy whos house the party was at (WS last night) he has the flag that Casey wore, and it was from a party in May called anything but clothes party.



http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=166

[SavannahStar]

It isn't a tape; it's a written transcript, and very short.


Thanks, but I already got the answer I was seeking.

[day2day]

Look at this ....

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=844

Notice I was mentioned for firing up this story on this MB.

Sunday seemed to be media day for many, as my name was whored out there, like Casey Anthony on a street corner in Orlando, Florida. From Greta Wire, Websleuths (I do have love for you all and yes, I did post some messages on the Emory case a while back, just so you’re aware, it is the right Krause), kakax firing up the linkage at InSession, and a plethora of others, along with marriage proposals, cancer cards, etc. This case isn’t about me, it’s about Casey Anthony. I thank you for your warm receptive comments, but back to business.


Hmm, didn't realize I was w****ing him out. What I asked of us here at IS was who is this guy? How would he know about a TES press conference?


We are being watched...always! LOL!

[rosejustrose]

Keep in mind we've yet to hear any official confirmation that the Anthonys' refused LDTs. That info came from Padilla and Padilla alone, to my knowledge.

At this point any request for an LDT would have to go through NeJame and Baez. IMO, their advice would be "Just Say No". IMO.

[bluwaters]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17526921/detail.html

I have not read today's thread yet, so this may be asked and answered. I wonder what the HOA hopes to accomplish by adding the Anthonys to the court action?

To stop the vigils?:confused:

[margaritaville]

Oh brother, let me get my violin. :rolleyes:

When are you going to stop trying to play the hero?

Wow........A little jealously going on here??

Now girls....... if you can't play nice, get out of the sandbox..................


moo

[Armchairdet]

I've been asking that myself this morning and the most I can figure from reading on here is "stay in the house" which of course will never fly.

(However, read kakax's post......that makes more sense. To stop the at-home, in the front yard vigils. Which I think the Anthonys already did, or at least the last one.)


I agree 'stay in the house' will never fly. No vigils in the front yard might I suppose. I don't think they will get much argument from the Anthony family over that. :shrug:

[kakax]

We are being watched...always! LOL!

If you look at the rest of his article, I'm thinking he is call me the B word and has attributed a quote to me that I didn't say.

[dixie77]

This board should be about Caylee, and not the continue pats on the back and the "look at me, look at me!" repeatedly posted from anyone who has supposedly gone to search for her, PERIOD.

==================

Once again, your outbursts r un-called for. U should try to get off your butt and away from your many computers and go out and search for Caylee.

[st777jo]

Oh brother, let me get my violin. :rolleyes:

When are you going to stop trying to play the hero?

Thats mighty ignorant.

Rebel, you go girl. And yes, you have done WAY MORE than the A's have.

[redcard]

People who involve themselves in criminal investigations without knowing much of the processes of criminal investigation, or where the current criminal investigation is at, tend to be more of a detriment than a benefit.

If you want to search for Caylee, fine. Call the police and ask them where to look. But.. don't make their jobs harder by injecting yourself into the criminal aspect of this case. The job of a searcher is for body recovery, not to be a prosecutor or detective.

If you want to help Caylee, look for her body, alive or deceased.

[day2day]

If you look at the rest of his article, I'm thinking he is call me the B word and has attributed a quote to me that I didn't say.

Well let me reread it. IF he did..i will email him NOW! He won't get by callin my friend the b**** word!

brb

[GrannyB]

Anyone see this article? I know it's in Alabama, but it's only about an 11 hour drive from Orlando...

Dog Finds Child's Foot in Russellville, AL
http://www.whnt.com/Global/story.asp?S=9048374

Now that is chilling.

[ellegna]

No, they haven't! So that goes right back to my first post about all this......what is the HOA asking of the Anthonys? When I read the article it said something about they wanted to limit times/duration of protests etc. And I asked how could the Anthonys do that? The only thing they could do (and have done) is stop the vigils.

So I don't understand this, and I feel like I'm going in circles. Maybe someone could explain what HOA is expecting to accomplishing by also naming the Anthonys. :shrug:

Maybe suggesting Casey should be relocated to another location. :shrug:

[BJames]

Day 98

Where is Caylee Anthony?

[Armchairdet]

To stop the vigils?:confused:


I think they could still have them in the backyard, or garage. I can't imagine the HOA could not allow them to have company. Probably just don't want them out on the sidewalk? IDK :shrug:

[SavannahStar]

At this point any request for an LDT would have to go through NeJame and Baez. IMO, their advice would be "Just Say No". IMO.


Oh absolutely. (Dare I use that word? LOL.)

[trich]

This board should be about Caylee, and not the continue pats on the back and the "look at me, look at me!" repeatedly posted from anyone who has supposedly gone to search for her, PERIOD.

That is not nice.
Matter of fact it is down right nasty.


There is nothing wrong with thanking those that have looked for CAYLEE and pointing out in the process that some have done so much more then CAYLEE's family have tried to do.
Complete strangers have done more in the search for that child then her family has and if you think mentioning that is wrong that is just not nice. IMO

[barskin&co.]

People who involve themselves in criminal investigations without knowing much of the processes of criminal investigation, or where the current criminal investigation is at, tend to be more of a detriment than a benefit.

If you want to search for Caylee, fine. Call the police and ask them where to look. But.. don't make their jobs harder by injecting yourself into the criminal aspect of this case. The job of a searcher is for body recovery, not to be a prosecutor or detective.

If you want to help Caylee, look for her body, alive or deceased.

Thank you, sir! May I have another? :patriot:

[Boxer]

Day 98 No Polygraphs of Family

[Armchairdet]

I think those were all for show and tell anyways IMO...they are probably happy to end those.

I was thinking that myself. Do G&C go to Church every week? They might be able to have them there if they want, and Casey could go iiuc.

[trich]

Are you suggesting the Anthonys are all on those drugs? News flash, the drugs are not working for Cindy and George. ;)

imo



Good one!!!LOL

[redcard]

Day 98 No Polygraphs of Family

Polygraphs are useless pseudoscience.

They shouldn't be used at all, in any case. They're just tools that the interrogator uses to intimidate people. I wish we'd stop relying on them, when the evidence shows them to be quite unreliable.

[barskin&co.]

http://www.lrcf.net/missing/CayleeAnthony/CayleeAnthony.html flyer with wrong date Updated flyer using date June 9 http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/files/CayleeFlyer.pdf AMW using the date of the 15th LE using the date of the 9th and the 15 Caylees flyer still has the date as the 9th? URLs that have tons of very good links to all videos and reports in this case: http://www.missingabducted.com/ AMW http://www.amw.com/missing_children/look_for.cfm?id=57624 How sometimes cases like these resolve: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1220dffl.html

Caylee was at her GGF's assisted living home on June 15th. That has bee verified and testified to by LE. The date is wrong on the sites because the Anthonys said June 9 when LE was first contacted, and this wasn't corrected until the bond hearing weeks later. Jenny, we have proven this to you over and over.

[nc1948]

I think it was fantastic that you went and searched. Hero in my book.:beer:

Mine to. You are great.