Sun nite 9/21

[sterling1462]

Just Say Maybeeeee..........................

Has anyone thought that this child may be laying in a hospital room or a extended family's home in a coma? As a mother it would be hard to let go of a child. If she used a drug to sedate the child she could have caused brain damage. she keeps saying "she's close" . Has anyone checked the grandmother's background and her friends to see if she has "borrowed" any equipment needed to keep a person stable.... such as medical bed ....monitors.....IV... Maybe they are thinking that the child will come out it? Don't think about the trunk... or the evidence ...think without emotion. I have heard in different forums that Lee Anthony is not staying with the family, check his house. Or the Great-Grandmother's house, as the Whole Anthony clan raised such a stink about the police contacting them. Why did the feel the need to keep police away from them? Lee and his sister was close....after only a few moments alone together Casey relented to her mother and came up with the story that the child had been kidnapped. Almost like she made it up as she went along. Not even knowing what day she went missing. She was going along to what her mother wanted to hear. Went along with the dates her mother told her as to when the last time she was with her child. Do not underestamate the love between a brother and sister. From the ranting and raving I would say the bother is safest bet with all Casey's secrets.

Lee Anthony, as of this morning, had not checked his myspace page that he set up for Caylee in several days. Now I personally would be checking it serveral times a day. No matter how hard it is.

[aubrey04]

:confused:

no.

[FrankieBones1]

Just Say Maybeeeee..........................

Don't think about the trunk... or the evidence
((snipped a bit)).


It is important to think about evidence. And so far, it leads us to think that Caylee is dead. :rose:

[nutterbutter]

Just Say Maybeeeee..........................

Has anyone thought that this child may be laying in a hospital room or a extended family's home in a coma? As a mother it would be hard to let go of a child. If she used a drug to sedate the child she could have caused brain damage. she keeps saying "she's close" . Has anyone checked the grandmother's background and her friends to see if she has "borrowed" any equipment needed to keep a person stable.... such as medical bed ....monitors.....IV... Maybe they are thinking that the child will come out it? Don't think about the trunk... or the evidence ...think without emotion. I have heard in different forums that Lee Anthony is not staying with the family, check his house. Or the Great-Grandmother's house, as the Whole Anthony clan raised such a stink about the police contacting them. Why did the feel the need to keep police away from them? Lee and his sister was close....after only a few moments alone together Casey relented to her mother and came up with the story that the child had been kidnapped. Almost like she made it up as she went along. Not even knowing what day she went missing. She was going along to what her mother wanted to hear. Went along with the dates her mother told her as to when the last time she was with her child. Do not underestamate the love between a brother and sister. From the ranting and raving I would say the bother is safest bet with all Casey's secrets.

Lee Anthony, as of this morning, had not checked his myspace page that he set up for Caylee in several days. Now I personally would be checking it serveral times a day. No matter how hard it is.
hmmmmmmmmmmm,sounds a bit far fetched to me but jus sayin:shrug:

[nutterbutter]

Please continue here

[steffaroob4]

Thanks, I am falling asleep wait for geraldo. I sure hope we get some new info:)

[rosejustrose]

Thanks, I am falling asleep wait for geraldo. I sure hope we get some new info:)


Hi stef! Is this a repeat from last night or a new broadcast? TIA.

[?noanswer]

Hi stef! Is this a repeat from last night or a new broadcast? TIA.


New broadcast. JMO

[steffaroob4]

Hi stef! Is this a repeat from last night or a new broadcast? TIA.


No, it is new, taking viewer questions

[barskin&co.]

Jesse is on now!

[rosejustrose]

New broadcast. JMO

Oh, what time in EST, please:)

[barskin&co.]

He confirms he took and passed a LDT.

[bluwaters]

Please light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to begin

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

Thanks to those who keep candles burning for Caylee!
Thanks also to those who post the link as well.

:seeya:

[rosejustrose]

Jesse is on now!


Dang it! I can't stop watching the last game at Yankee Stadium. I'm an emotional wreck dealing with that. Would someone be good enough to post a re-cap or let me know if it will be re-broadcast after the game.

Thanks in advance for any kindness shown to a lifelong Yankee fan:rose:

[?noanswer]

Jessie - clear up last night. He was not defending Casey as she is now. He was talking about how she was when he knew her. She was a very outgoing person, really liked Caylee. Now she is an emotionless person. JMO

[mosey2]

It's kinda weird that Jesse Grund is mirroring what exit 13 is saying on WS. The Casey they knew then is not the Casey they are seeing now.

[rosejustrose]

He confirms he took and passed a LDT.

Interesting to say the least. Any word on when the Anthonys are scheduled to take theirs?:rolleyes: I bet that they can get 4 for the price of two. IMO.

[?noanswer]

Jessie - Never got along with Cindy. Is very controlling person. Has no idea if GA & CA are covering up after the fact. Believes they know more than they are saying. Still believes he heard Caylee on the 24th, but can't be certain. JMO

[barskin&co.]

Interesting to say the least. Any word on when the Anthonys are scheduled to take theirs?:rolleyes: I bet that they can get 4 for the price of two. IMO.

Yes, when was that scheduled for, anyway? :biggrin:

[rosejustrose]

Please light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to begin

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

Thanks to those who keep candles burning for Caylee!
Thanks also to those who post the link as well.

:seeya:


Thank you blu for always remembering to post this link.:rose: It reminds us all why we are here.

[mosey2]

Caller:Cindy is exibiting multiple disorders, and pointing the finger at you. Will you file defemation of character suit?
JG:Havent thought about a suit. Cindy and I have never got along. She is very controlling, and I think she is threatened by that and is launching a vendetta against me

JG still thinks he heard Caylee on phone on 24th, but cant swear to it. Will believe Caylee is dead with more evidence.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Got to hear Jesse Grund tonight. That was interesting.

[barskin&co.]

Caller:Cindy is exibiting multiple disorders, and pointing the finger at you. Will you file defemation of character suit?
JG:Havent thought about a suit. Cindy and I have never got along. She is very controlling, and I think she is threatened by that and is launching a vendetta against me

JG still thinks he heard Caylee on phone on 24th, but cant swear to it. Will believe Caylee is dead with more evidence.
I cannot believe he really heard Caylee. He heard Casey call to Caylee to kead him to believe Caylee was there. Casey essentially moved in with Tony from June 16 on. How did she hide Caylee for more than a week?

[dixie77]

I cannot believe he really heard Caylee. He heard Casey call to Caylee to kead him to believe Caylee was there. Casey essentially moved in with Tony from June 16 on. How did she hide Caylee for more than a week?
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I thought it was mentioned way back when that Casey was telling the cat to get off the table. JMO

[nutterbutter]

Please light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to begin

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

Thanks to those who keep candles burning for Caylee!
Thanks also to those who post the link as well.

:seeya:
done!Thanks for posting link.

[nutterbutter]

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I thought it was mentioned way back when that Casey was telling the cat to get off the table. JMO

:shrug : I thought she was suppose to be telling Caylee to get off the table?jus saying.:shrug:

[dixie77]

I keep hearing from different sources that Casey is not the person everyone knew her to be. Is it *possible* that she had some kind of mental break after seeing Caylee dead? That would explain a lot.
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Well if i seen my grandchild die, i know i would have a mental break down but i wouldnt be acting as calm as Casey is. They would have to hospitalize me. But i dont know how anyone else would react. JMO

[rosejustrose]

I keep hearing from different sources that Casey is not the person everyone knew her to be. Is it *possible* that she had some kind of mental break after seeing Caylee dead? That would explain a lot.

I think I might lose touch with reality dealing with that. IMO.

[barskin&co.]

I keep hearing from different sources that Casey is not the person everyone knew her to be. Is it *possible* that she had some kind of mental break after seeing Caylee dead? That would explain a lot.

I don't think so. I think she is the same. I just think they never really knew her, except that she was a pathological liar. If Casey's outside matched her insides, she would have horns on top of her head and boils all over her face. But Casey is pretty and has has bright shiny smile. She fools people, for a while...

[dixie77]

That's what I mean. I wonder if she's could be in some kind of fugue state or something? I'll have to cogitate on that for a while.
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After u cogitate for a while, could u give us your cogitated thoughts? lol (teasing)

[Pruddennce]

I keep hearing from different sources that Casey is not the person everyone knew her to be. Is it *possible* that she had some kind of mental break after seeing Caylee dead? That would explain a lot.


everyone that was in her company from the beginning of her relationship with Tony until her mother picked her up, saw the same outgoing fabulous fun-loving, not a worry Casey, inviting people to Fusion, web postings, not a care in the world.

this person posting as someone who knew her, didnt see her anymore after she met tony.

secondly, this whole persona on a web board, well, I would call it suspect.

none of these friends would recognize a lie unless it concerned them personally....no indepth relationships with Casey....so how would they know if she was lying about anything?

the lies are all out now. so the point is moot regarding casey is/is not a known liar.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[impartial]

This is the most confusing case.

Casey was a very doting and loving mother, Caylee came first. Others have expressed the same sentiment.

The person Jesse is seeing on TV since the arrest is not recognizable as Casey, Casey is an emotional person.

What the heck happened here. Did Casey have a psychotic break?

IMO

[mosey2]

I keep hearing from different sources that Casey is not the person everyone knew her to be. Is it *possible* that she had some kind of mental break after seeing Caylee dead? That would explain a lot.
Yeah, it sounds like she snapped. I really think it has something to do with Casey's perception of how her mother would handle the truth. Casey didnt want to prove her mother right all these years. For all intents and purposed Caylee was Cindys child. It sounds like Cindy made sure of that by undermining her daughters parenting confidence. Probably because Cindy told Casey since the time Caylee was born, that she couldnt handle the responsibility of motherhood. Casey constructed a make-believe world all for the benefit of Cindy's expectations of her. Too twisted for color TV.

Its funny, because many of Caseys friends said Casey was attentive and loving toward Caylee. Then, we hear that Cindy took over the role as mother. But Cindy is the one who worked full time, not Casey. And when Casey was supposedly at work, Caylee was with her.

I am thinking it was an accident, and Casey snapped, because she cant handle Cindys domineering, always-right, iron glove expectations.


MOO, of course

[bluwaters]

Interesting that Sheriff Beary's SIL is being held on a "no bond" status for battery against his wife. That's as it should be. Too bad that the law doesn't permit no bond for the felony charge of child neglect and endangerment, especially when a parent actually loses a child on what seems to be a permanent basis. :(

Orange County deputy arrested for domestic abuse
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7481145&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Following his arrest, Brooks was transported to the Lake County Jail and placed under a no bond status.

my emphasis in red

jmho

[rosejustrose]

That's what I mean. I wonder if she's could be in some kind of fugue state or something? I'll have to cogitate on that for a while.

I posted something along those lines awhile back, too long for my pea brain to remember. I was also wondering is she had black outs but according to the OP on WS she didn't drink to excess or do drugs. In his opinion. Grain of salt time, IMO.

[dixie77]

Have you ever heard that you should be careful what you ask for for you surely may get it? :biggrin: Hi NOLA lady! :seeya:
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Yep have heard that and at this point in time, nothing would surprise me. How ya been? U from NOLA?

[barskin&co.]

Jesse said Casey assimilated into people's lives and became what they were. That may be why she appeared normal to others. She was "like" them.

Exactly, she established a phony identity, which seems to be the only way she knew how to operate.

[dixie77]

I honestly believe that or something very similar is going to be JB's defense.... it'll blanket the whole 31 days.

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Yep gotta agree with u on that. And its a damn shame JMO

[mosey2]

I think if Cindy were not part of the equation, Casey would have confessed as to what happened.

[bluwaters]

That's what I mean. I wonder if she's could be in some kind of fugue state or something? I'll have to cogitate on that for a while.
Awww, my cute Daddy used to say that all the time.
I haven't heard that phrase in ages.
Thanks ratched.

:rose:

[Pruddennce]

Anything's possible.

I'm inclined to believe she's an empty shell, trying on personas and behaviors depending on who she's around at the moment.

agreed. she shifted gears in the middle of LE's interview when he made light of the chairs being uncomfortable and signaled lightheartedness, casual bantering...and wa-la, Casey is giggling and agreeing, oh yes, these chairs....

in the middle of giving information about her missing daughter...

oops.....

best regards,
Pru

[barskin&co.]

I honestly believe that or something very similar is going to be JB's defense.... it'll blanket the whole 31 days.

Yeah, he may try that. What the h... else can he do? Won't work, IMO.

[flipflop]

I just posted this on another night thread and I know it is silly, but does anyone know where I can find that pic of the green glowing "thing" we saw on the house next to the Anthony's? I wanted to show someone who was asking about it. A poster took a pic and I have been all over the last thread but couldn't find it. I thought I would ask real quick here if not I will search more pages. Thanks.

[rosejustrose]

everyone that was in her company from the beginning of her relationship with Tony until her mother picked her up, saw the same outgoing fabulous fun-loving, not a worry Casey, inviting people to Fusion, web postings, not a care in the world.

this person posting as someone who knew her, didnt see her anymore after she met tony.

secondly, this whole persona on a web board, well, I would call it suspect.

none of these friends would recognize a lie unless it concerned them personally....no indepth relationships with Casey....so how would they know if she was lying about anything?

the lies are all out now. so the point is moot regarding casey is/is not a known liar.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

I find it suspect, too. Nothing being said that is new, enlightening or earthshattering. IMO, it's just a little CYA, we were not involved with her new circle of friends, blah, blah, blah. JMO.

[bluwaters]

I don't think so. I think she is the same. I just think they never really knew her, except that she was a pathological liar. If Casey's outside matched her insides, she would have horns on top of her head and boils all over her face. But Casey is pretty and has has bright shiny smile. She fools people, for a while...

She is The Portrait of Dorian Grey come to life.
I think that her first phone call home from jail showed the real Casey.

jmho

[mosey2]

I cannot believe he really heard Caylee. He heard Casey call to Caylee to kead him to believe Caylee was there. Casey essentially moved in with Tony from June 16 on. How did she hide Caylee for more than a week?
Seriously, listen to the 911 call Casey make and you can hear her doing the exact same thing with the operator, when the operator askes her to identify herself. Casey JUST said her parents were outside, and in the next breath she is talking to someone in the background. So I dont doubt she tried to fool Jesse during the phone call.

[rosejustrose]

If she saw caylee dead
would shock cause casey to behave the way she is?
In her interrogation she admitted she was lying and it didnt make sense but just continued on.

I think Casey tried to maintain her facade of being a fun-loving, problem free, happy go lucky girl right up to the minute LE called her on her lies. At that point, I think she reverted to her true self. The cold hearted, stone of a person we see now. Like most sociopaths I think she manifested personality traits that she observed in others as being acceptable and mimicked them. IMO, her life was one big play split into different acts depending on who she was dealing with. JMO.

[st777jo]

This Exit 13 guy from WS said he knows Lee but they are not friends. So why would Lee call "him" after all this broke wide open???

[rosejustrose]

Anything's possible.

I'm inclined to believe she's an empty shell, trying on personas and behaviors depending on who she's around at the moment.

You're doing it again. Please vacate my head. I like it empty. TIA.:D

[flipflop]

FlipFlop, I don't know of a pic, and it was really eerie but it was pretty apparent that it was some digital light reflecting on the winsheild of the vehicle the camera was in, IMO.


Aww I thought I remembered someone taking a pic of it. I was hoping someone remembered where it was. Thanks tho

[rosejustrose]

Interesting that Sheriff Beary's SIL is being held on a "no bond" status for battery against his wife. That's as it should be. Too bad that the law doesn't permit no bond for the felony charge of child neglect and endangerment, especially when a parent actually loses a child on what seems to be a permanent basis. :(

Orange County deputy arrested for domestic abuse
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7481145&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1



my emphasis in red

jmho

Interesting. You can beat up an adult who most likely could offer up some sort of defense and get no bond but you can lose a child who most likely is dead at your hand and get bonded out. How is that justice? JMHO.

[bluwaters]

Aw, I'm glad to have been a part of a wonderful memory! For you and your Daddy; :rose:
He was from NOLA.
That made me smile. :)

[Pruddennce]

She is The Portrait of Dorian Grey come to life.
I think that her first phone call home from jail showed the real Casey.

jmho

oh yes blu, that was the real casey and the real cindy...which is UNREAL when you look at that relationship.....cindy calling her sweetheart and talking to her like she is 5 years old. Casey spewing and wanting her boyfriend's telephone number..

and cindy just handing the phone over...RETREAT...all historical behaviour, IMO.

none of her 'friends' have a clue about Casey Anthony. the people she was currently hanging with had jobs/going to school, and partied. she tried to blend...she could only blend without a kid in tow.

she partied. thats about it for Casey. she wasnt planning her own life with her daughter, she was planning on how to survive on someone else's dime and time.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Takotna]

Where was Casey when Jesse spoke to her on the phone on the 24th?

Although there's been some confusion about the dates, (the call between Jesse and Casey happened on the 24th or 25th) IIRC it was in the afternoon - between 2:30 and 4:00pm - IMO IF the call was on the 24th, this is the day G says Casey came to the house at 2:25pm. I think she was at the house during the call - telling the cat to get off the table. None of this is confirmed. The only person who says Casey was at the house was G - this was the gas can day.

I'm trying to :read: up on the last 2 days y'all have been busy!
Is there anything particularly noteworthy I should look for?

AllMO:)

[rosejustrose]

FlipFlop, I don't know of a pic, and it was really eerie but it was pretty apparent that it was some digital light reflecting on the winsheild of the vehicle the camera was in, IMO.


Speak for yourself. I think if was ghosts:eek:

[rosejustrose]

This Exit 13 guy from WS said he knows Lee but they are not friends. So why would Lee call "him" after all this broke wide open???


Lee had Casey's phone and was just robo-dialing all the numbers of her friends to get the word out about Caylee being missing. IMO.

[bluwaters]

FlipFlop, I don't know of a pic, and it was really eerie but it was pretty apparent that it was some digital light reflecting on the winsheild of the vehicle the camera was in, IMO.
I didn't take a screen shot of it FlipFlop.
I was very relieved when someone posted that the camera was shooting through a windshield!
It had to be some sort of reflection, but it was very eerie. :chicken:

[mosey2]

This Exit 13 guy from WS said he knows Lee but they are not friends. So why would Lee call "him" after all this broke wide open???
He said he first found out about it from Mallory, before Casey was arrested and before the Universal Studio interview. Lee called him the next day after Casey was arrested. The family was probably dividing up caseys phone book and calling everyone, trying to get the word out

MOO

[flipflop]

Speak for yourself. I think if was ghosts:eek:


Lmao. Well, all I know is that now its BLACK. Enter twilight zone music.....

[rosejustrose]

Now YOU get out of MY head! :punch:


OMG it's the Anthony Personality Disorder!!! It's contagious. IMO.:eek:

[rosejustrose]

oh yes blu, that was the real casey and the real cindy...which is UNREAL when you look at that relationship.....cindy calling her sweetheart and talking to her like she is 5 years old. Casey spewing and wanting her boyfriend's telephone number..

and cindy just handing the phone over...RETREAT...all historical behaviour, IMO.

none of her 'friends' have a clue about Casey Anthony. the people she was currently hanging with had jobs/going to school, and partied. she tried to blend...she could only blend without a kid in tow.

she partied. thats about it for Casey. she wasnt planning her own life with her daughter, she was planning on how to survive on someone else's dime and time.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

And what I found interesting was the OP on WS clearly stated they all thought she worked at US and no one had any idea what she did all day. Oh yeah, they knew her well.:rolleyes:

[dixie77]

No, I'm originally from La. though, and I'm sharing your Hurricane fatigue first heavily hit with Rita and now heavily, heavily hit with Ike. Roses for all of us. :rose:
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God Bless you, my friend

[rosejustrose]

Mallory is Lees gf? Did I read that right?
And Lee hung with the Tony crowd?

Please correct me if this is wrong.


No, Lee did not hang out with the same crowds Casey did and yes Mallory is/was his gf.

[flipflop]

I can't help but feel Jessie is still in love with Casey. It's like he just cannot paint her in a bad light.

[mosey2]

Mallory is Lees gf? Did I read that right?
And Lee hung with the Tony crowd?

Please correct me if this is wrong.
Mallory is Lees girlfriend. On the very first phone call from jail, casey said let me talk to lee, I just saw Mallory's car parked out front on the news
Didnt I hear that Lee text Mallory from an airplane and said he wanted to "ramp up" the relationship?
Lee did not hang w/ Tony as far as I know. I think at the time of Tonys LE interview, he had only met lee once. IIRC

[st777jo]

Exit 13 said she worked at Fusion and was mgr. of "shot girls"??? WTH is shot girls?? Anyone??

[bluwaters]

I LOVE your sig BTW. Although thinking that way has gotten me into a lot of trouble. I do it anyway.
Thanks. Yeah. That gets me in trouble all of the time too.
That is why parasitical types find others such easy prey.
It is normal to expect others to be like you are.
In fact, we even teach children that, as in, he/she doesn't look like you, or eat the same food, or live like you, but we all share the same feelings inside.
Until you run across someone who doesn't.
Someone who most likely does look like you, and live like you.
Someone like Casey.
The good news is that most people are good, caring, and honest.
The ones that aren't are much, much fewer, but what damage they are capable of.
Still, I think it best to give others the benefit of the doubt, until facts show otherwise.

BTW - love your sig too! Put that evil guy on the run! :chicken:

jmho

[flipflop]

Exit 13 said she worked at Fusion and was mgr. of "shot girls"??? WTH is shot girls?? Anyone??

Those who deliver shots? Lmbo..I have no idea.

[msjoni]

Jesse said Casey assimilated into people's lives and became what they were. That may be why she appeared normal to others. She was "like" them.

I said this once before.... but I'll repeat it...Sociopaths mirror people...they become whatever the other person wants them to be...

[mosey2]

I think it was the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate, myself.
Wow, someone as old as I am. Look that up in your Funk and Wagnell's

[bluwaters]

And what I found interesting was the OP on WS clearly stated they all thought she worked at US and no one had any idea what she did all day. Oh yeah, they knew her well.:rolleyes:
That is another big mystery.
What in the world did Casey do all day?

[barskin&co.]

Exit 13 said she worked at Fusion and was mgr. of "shot girls"??? WTH is shot girls?? Anyone??

Well, we know that the people from Fusian have said that Casey never worked there. She probably was an amateur "shot girl."

[mosey2]

Those who deliver shots? Lmbo..I have no idea.
Casey was hanging around Club Fusion so much that Tony gave her the job of managing the shot girls. They are the girls that cruise around with a tray full of assorted shot glasses (tequila, jello, etc) and sell to people. It dont believe it was a paying gig for Casey, I think Tony just felt sorry for her.

[st777jo]

Well, we know that the people from Fusian have said that Casey never worked there. She probably was an amateur "shot girl."

Wonder how she could be a "manager" of anything when she couldn't even manage to hold onto Caylee???

[mosey2]

That is another big mystery.
What in the world did Casey do all day?
Hair and nails, you know. The latest fashions from Tar-ge'

[Pruddennce]

And what I found interesting was the OP on WS clearly stated they all thought she worked at US and no one had any idea what she did all day. Oh yeah, they knew her well.:rolleyes:

when people say they 'hang out' they consider that 'good friends' in twenty-something lingo...lol

best regards,
Pru

[flipflop]

Casey was hanging around Club Fusion so much that Tony gave her the job of managing the shot girls. They are the girls that cruise around with a tray full of assorted shot glasses (tequila, jello, etc) and sell to people. It dont believe it was a paying gig for Casey, I think Tony just felt sorry for her.

Why say he put her in "charge" though. Didn't he say that? I guess it doesn't really matter. Thank you for explaining. :)

[bluwaters]

Mallory is Lees girlfriend. On the very first phone call from jail, casey said let me talk to lee, I just saw Mallory's car parked out front on the news
Didnt I hear that Lee text Mallory from an airplane and said he wanted to "ramp up" the relationship?
Lee did not hang w/ Tony as far as I know. I think at the time of Tonys LE interview, he had only met lee once. IIRC

How romantic...:rolleyes:
If Mallory has a brain in her head she is dodging this bullet. :chicken:
It is interesting what Jesse says about his relationship with Cindy.
Does Mallory want to be her DIL?
Does she want to spend Saturday AM's waiting for Lee to return from visiting Casey in prison, or worse, going there too? For about 30 years.
Telling her kids that Auntie Casey is in jail cause she "lost" her little girl?
:eek:

[rosejustrose]

Exit 13 said she worked at Fusion and was mgr. of "shot girls"??? WTH is shot girls?? Anyone??


According to that poster they're pretty girls hired to hang around and just look pretty. Translation? Anyone? I could go there, IMO.

[Pruddennce]

Exit 13 said she worked at Fusion and was mgr. of "shot girls"??? WTH is shot girls?? Anyone??

actually, that is what casey 'told him'; he did not know firsthand :)

best regards,
Pru

[rosejustrose]

I think there are only 2 of us left that old, lol. F&W=:biggrin:


Ummmmmm, make that 3.

[barskin&co.]

That is another big mystery.
What in the world did Casey do all day?

Well, everybody else was at work or school (friends, Cindy George). Friends would say in the police interviews that Universal gave her very flexible hours and working conditions (including the possibility of working from home). She probably was up date with All My Children, One Life to Live, etc. One big problem in her life was the fact that Caylee was growing old enough to talk, therefore, could start to blow her cover. In one of the interviews it is mentioned that one of her teddy bears in named "mama;" was that because if Caylee talked about being with "mama" during the day, other people would think she was talking about her teddy.

[msjoni]

when people say they 'hang out' they consider that 'good friends' in twenty-something lingo...lol

best regards,
Pru

I clearly remember those days myself...twenty people in a room partying all best friends forever...In the past 30 years I saw 2 of them...:shrug:

[mosey2]

Why say he put her in "charge" though. Didn't he say that? I guess it doesn't really matter. Thank you for explaining. :)
Seriously, though. If you read Tony's interview, it sounds like he didnt like Casey all that much. But she was really handy to have around the apartment because she did the laundry, cleaned and cooked for him and his friends. And then there's FWB

[bluwaters]

Well, we know that the people from Fusian have said that Casey never worked there. She probably was an amateur "shot girl."
IIRC, TonE said that he put her in charge of the shot girls to give her something to do at Fusion. He was working there, and she was there with him, so...
I have yet to see that she was actually paid for this.
Maybe she was? :shrug:

[charm7]

I think there are only 2 of us left that old, lol. F&W=:biggrin:


Nope Make that 3 :lol:

[mosey2]

Well, everybody else was at work or school (friends, Cindy George). Friends would say in the police interviews that Universal gave her very flexible hours and working conditions (including the possibility of working from home. She probably was up date with All My Children, One Life to Live, etc. One big problem in her life was the fact that Caylee was growing old enough to talk, therefore, could start to blow her cover. In one of the interviews it is mentioned that one of her teddy bears in named "mama;" was that because if Caylee talked about being with "mama" during the day, other people would think she was talking about her teddy.
OMG!! That's right, isn't it!

[st777jo]

Ummmmmm, make that 3.

Ummmmmmmmm & Ummmmmmmmmm, make that 4, lol

[msjoni]

Nope Make that 3 :lol:

Make that four....:biggrin:

[OneUp]

That's what I mean. I wonder if she's could be in some kind of fugue state or something? I'll have to cogitate on that for a while.IMO, a psychotic break would display other pretty obvious symptoms than just the flat affect. Had casey experienced a break, she woulsd not have any need to dfevelop a complex fantasy about what happened to Caylee...she would just not know.
I am also of the opinion that the Psych. eval. given in jail would have caught such a thing...a break of that sort would make Casey high risk for suicide and she wold have likely been held over for her own protection. The State wouldn't send a high risk for suicide home and run the risk of incurring a hugh suit if she took her life after they had evaluated her in jail. Also, I do believe if they could have come up with a valid reason not to allow her out on general bond that they would have used it to keep her in...if for no other reason than to cut down on the police callss generated by the Anthony home.
This is only My Opinion of course.
JMO.

[rosejustrose]

The Yankees have won the last game to ever be played in the House that Ruth Built. It was a great game, but very emotional. If I'm not making sense it's because tears of sadness for the old days are clouding my vision. But, I'm looking forward to next season and the new stadium and new traditions. The Yanks are done for the season so now I'll add this:


Go CUBS!!!!


I hope I don't get punished for being a sentimental old lady!

[charm7]

Ummmmmm, make that 3.


oooooops change me to 4 :shrug:

[bluwaters]

I understand that completely but what I can't understand is why they can't keep up the facade all the way through? Scotty couldn't do it, Drew couldn't do it and Casey can't do it. Why can't they know, just by watching TV if nothing else, what the world "expects" from people who are supposed to be grieving. It's like they're a chameleon until the dirty deed and then *poof* they lose all ability to feign human emotion. What gives? :shrug:
I think it must be exhausting to maintain a facade.
Maybe when it gets this bad, it's just too much?
The lies are revealed and nobody's fooled.
It's less strenuous to retreat and become blank.

[dixie77]

Originally Posted by bluwaters
That is another big mystery.
What in the world did Casey do all day?

=================

Thats a good question and one that is bugging me. It amazes me that no one has come forth and said anything about seeing her and Caylee together at a McDonals or at the mall or anywhere. I remember in the Laci Peterson case, people were coming out of the woodwork to get their faces on tv. But in this case.......nothing at all. Casey and Caylee had to be somewhere. For those that live in that area........what is the closet city to Orlando that Casey could drive back and forth to in the shortest amount of time? JMO

[SandyO]

It's just a matter of time before someone asks who FWB is. :lol:

I'll bite. Who's FWB?

[Pruddennce]

I clearly remember those days myself...twenty people in a room partying all best friends forever...In the past 30 years I saw 2 of them...:shrug:

yes, and so is the way of a life's journey...and Im not knocking it one bit...it is what it is.....these young adults were in their own element (no kids)....Casey was NOT able to blend with them....

instead of seeking out the family kind of lifestyle, finding other mom's whatever status, she attempted to be what her peers were...but she was missing major ingredients (a job/education aspirations) and had ONE ingredient that would not mix...a child.

best regards,
Pru

[Joan Weiss]

Well, we know that the people from Fusian have said that Casey never worked there. She probably was an amateur "shot girl."In his interview with LE, Tony said he put her in charge of the shot girls. :shrug:

[dixie77]

Make that four....:biggrin:

===============

up that a notch to 5 lol

[bluwaters]

You mean all 4 old people in this world are on here? What are the chances?:read:
There might be another one. :o

[charm7]

There might be another one. :o


Long as no one asks for one of us to pass the Geritol :no:

[mosey2]

Originally Posted by bluwaters
That is another big mystery.
What in the world did Casey do all day?

=================

Thats a good question and one that is bugging me. It amazes me that no one has come forth and said anything about seeing her and Caylee together at a McDonals or at the mall or anywhere. I remember in the Laci Peterson case, people were coming out of the woodwork to get their faces on tv. But in this case.......nothing at all. Casey and Caylee had to be somewhere. For those that live in that area........what is the closet city to Orlando that Casey could drive back and forth to in the shortest amount of time? JMO
It has entered my mind that Casey may have been staying at the model apartment at the Sawgrass. The one that shares the stairway to 210

[Shellberry]

hey everyone-just getting back in today.



Its possible Casey was playing something with Caylees voice on it to make people think Caylee was with her. Im surprised she didnt do that with cindy.
I think even without hearing a child-you can hollar stuff in the bkg--ok, I do that sometimes when I need to get off the phone with my mother...
'oh did you just hear her-she's hollaring, she needs to eat'--my bad I know, lol
my mom can go on and on and on though about different stuff
anyhoo....

Seriously, listen to the 911 call Casey make and you can hear her doing the exact same thing with the operator, when the operator askes her to identify herself. Casey JUST said her parents were outside, and in the next breath she is talking to someone in the background. So I dont doubt she tried to fool Jesse during the phone call.
I would have been scared to say who I was too-I bet she thinks all of LE is mad at her and wouldnt have sent help.
This Exit 13 guy from WS said he knows Lee but they are not friends. So why would Lee call "him" after all this broke wide open???
I wouldnt say I was a friend of the family either....
I wouldnt want to be dragged into this in any way..

Interesting. You can beat up an adult who most likely could offer up some sort of defense and get no bond but you can lose a child who most likely is dead at your hand and get bonded out. How is that justice? JMHO.
?
I missed something, how is this involved with caylee/casey?
(dont shoot-just wondering)

Exit 13 said she worked at Fusion and was mgr. of "shot girls"??? WTH is shot girls?? Anyone??
I believe they are the 'fun' ....giggly girls who will do provocative things to get guys to buy shots.
in their boobs, ummm...etc etc

The Yankees have won the last game to ever be played in the House that Ruth Built. It was a great game, but very emotional. If I'm not making sense it's because tears of sadness for the old days are clouding my vision. But, I'm looking forward to next season and the new stadium and new traditions. The Yanks are done for the season so now I'll add this:


Go CUBS!!!!


I hope I don't get punished for being a sentimental old lady!
aww that is great-on a sadder note, the steelers lost today--but so did the pats... :p

imo/jmo/etc.

[OneUp]

Interesting that Sheriff Beary's SIL is being held on a "no bond" status for battery against his wife. That's as it should be. Too bad that the law doesn't permit no bond for the felony charge of child neglect and endangerment, especially when a parent actually loses a child on what seems to be a permanent basis. :(

Orange County deputy arrested for domestic abuse
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7481145&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1



my emphasis in red

jmho can't decide if it is ironic or just sad that while one is held on "no bond" for the abuse of an adult, very few child abusers even face a significant bond and are often just released OTOR ( on their own recog.).
...so an adult who stands a chance defending themselves is protected thus, while a child is often faced with their abuser nearly immediately following the arrest.
I have alot to say about how wrong the protections for our childrren are...and what I'd like to see done about it. That's for a different forum.

The charges against Sheriff Beary's SIL just further prove that no one is immune to family violence...no matter how upstanding they may appear. I could tell tales all day on both child and sposal abuse that would leave you in tears. Hold your loved ones close folks, and remember that we are a community family too.
JMO.

[rosejustrose]

I think it must be exhausting to maintain a facade.
Maybe when it gets this bad, it's just too much?
The lies are revealed and nobody's fooled.
It's less strenuous to retreat and become blank.

ITA. I think when Casey was confronted with all her lies and the walls started crumbling down around her she retreated into her true self which is basically a shell. She's in a self-protective mode and nothing is going to get through. I think the only person who probably sees the happy go lucky, perky Casey is Jose. Okay, who is FWB? JMO.

[mosey2]

I'll bite. Who's FWB?
Does anyone else want to take this?

[rosejustrose]

===============

up that a notch to 5 lol

We're just so old we can't even keep track of simple numbers. DUH.

[OneUp]

Jesse said Casey assimilated into people's lives and became what they were. That may be why she appeared normal to others. She was "like" them.That is what sociopaths/psychopaths do...they copycat the behaviors of others.
It sounds like Jesse was catching on to some of her little tricks.
JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

Long as no one asks for one of us to pass the Geritol :no:In this case, it would be mylanta or Tums...

[mosey2]

Sure. Friends With Benefits. It's a phrase the youngsters use these days to describe non-romantic friendships that are also sexual.

I just report the news. I don't pretend to understand it. :)
LOL! Imagine my surprise when "hook-up" was not what I thought it was

[rosejustrose]

It means "Friend with Benefits"; meaning a friend with whom you have few emotional ties but have sex with when you get the "itch" (so to speak).

Charming, to be sure:rolleyes: It seemed to me that maybe Casey had some emotional ties (as much as she could anyway) to TonE. She seemed pretty desperate to get his number so she could call him. I wonder if she ever did hook up with from the jail house. That would be one tape I'd love to hear, IMO.

[barskin&co.]

Okay, here it is on page 363, the interview with Ricardo Morales:


A: She has a few that her mom would bring over for her to go to sleep. Um teddy bear, little baby doll.
A2: Mama
A: Is that the doll
A2: Yeah that was the name.
Q: The doll’s name is Mama?
A: Yeah, I think the teddy’s name was Teddy.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

Caylee would carry a doll with her that was called, "mama," therefore, IMO, if she mentioned being with mama during the day, it could be passed off as a reference to her doll.

[mosey2]

We're just so old we can't even keep track of simple numbers. DUH.
It's from surviving the '70's

The braincells I have left are perfect

[mosey2]

Okay, here it is on page 363, the interview with Ricardo Morales:


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf

Caylee would carry a doll with her that was called, "mama," therefore, IMO, if she mentioned being with mama during the day, it could be passed off as a reference to her doll.
That is just too frickin' weird. I never made the connection. That's why we need the hive-mind

[rosejustrose]

The Geraldo re-run from earlier is on. I think I'll listen in when he gets to Jesse.

[SandyO]

Sure. Friends With Benefits. It's a phrase the youngsters use these days to describe non-romantic friendships that are also sexual.

I just report the news. I don't pretend to understand it. :)

Well then, make that 6. I must be getting old after all.

[OneUp]

OMG it's the Anthony Personality Disorder!!! It's contagious. IMO.:eek:That would be funny...if they weren't actually deserving of their own titled disorder based upon the extreme behaviors they display as a family unit.
JMO, as always

[purplepoints]

My grandsons' mother, whom I have said is very similar to Casey, once worked as a "shot girl" in a strip club. This is what she told me. Shot girls are suppossed to be in "really cute" outfits and carry around a tray of shot drinks and flirt with the to the customers to try and sell the drinks. At this club (not sure how it worked at Fusion) she didn't get paid by the hour or such, she got to keep a certain percentage of how much she sold.

She also said they could do lap dances too, if they wanted, but didn't have to. Of course she told me she didn't. LOL (Anyhow that is kinda O/T as I don't think Fusion was a strip club was it?)

[mosey2]

Or "kickin' it". Never thought I'd be the old fogey saying this, but kids these days. AND they call THAT music?
Word. True-dat, homeslice

[msjoni]

It has entered my mind that Casey may have been staying at the model apartment at the Sawgrass. The one that shares the stairway to 210

That's a good theory!

[barskin&co.]

That is just too frickin' weird. I never made the connection. That's why we need the hive-mind

Well, this is just a theory on my part, but it is strange to name a doll "Mama". Most little girls see dolls as their babys.

[SaraSidle]

ummmmmm, make that 3.

4!!!!!!!!!

[rosejustrose]

Both of mine are at 100%, too!

You have 2 left???? Man, I was ripped...... ripped off that is:D

[OneUp]

when people say they 'hang out' they consider that 'good friends' in twenty-something lingo...lol

best regards,
PruLOL Pru...That reminds me of a "talk" my Father gave me years ago about the difference between 'friends' and 'associates'. IMO, most people who knew Casey were her associates....the rest were either relatives or 'marks'.
JMO

[OneUp]

I understand that completely but what I can't understand is why they can't keep up the facade all the way through? Scotty couldn't do it, Drew couldn't do it and Casey can't do it. Why can't they know, just by watching TV if nothing else, what the world "expects" from people who are supposed to be grieving. It's like they're a chameleon until the dirty deed and then *poof* they lose all ability to feign human emotion. What gives? :shrug:
Faking any emotion is exhausting...just ask any actor/actress. I would imagine that faking grief would be the most taxing of all...the real thing certainly takes a great toll. I also believe they just forget because it is a front and is so foreign to them that they slip back into their own "normal" behaviors.
JMO though.

[desmom]

Trying to play catch and tooooo much info...

I found this for those playing catch up....


Geraldo & Jessie Grund - Caylee Anthony case 9/21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLH9mC9Uha0

[SaraSidle]

Ummmmmmmmm & Ummmmmmmmmm, make that 4, lol

Oops 5 and that saying FFF was from Rowan and Martin Laugh IN

[msjoni]

Well, this is just a theory on my part, but it is strange to name a doll "Mama". Most little girls see dolls as their babys.

Naming her baby doll Mama makes me very sad.

My own daughter had Lolly, God forbid if we could not find her...I had trouble getting her to wash her, we had doubles , but my daughter KNEW

And LE finding that doll in the car assures me that poor Caylee is no longer here with us....:rose:

[Shellberry]

That is just too frickin' weird. I never made the connection. That's why we need the hive-mind

Well, this is just a theory on my part, but it is strange to name a doll "Mama". Most little girls see dolls as their babys.


hmm
I dont know-my daughter knows her babies as her babies, or if I say where is your baby, she goes and gets one.

but she does call a lot of things 'da-da'
I think mama might have been a word easiest to say for caylee when she first started talking.
or it could have been one of the first words she was taught.

my daughter knew her duppa since she was tiny--and now when I ask her where her duppa is, she says 'dada' & smacks her butt.

she also refers to her play horses as dada, movies as dada, her shoes as dada, there are a lot of things she refers to as dada-even though we both know she isnt talking about her father.


imo/jmo

[rosejustrose]

LOL Pru...That reminds me of a "talk" my Father gave me years ago about the difference between 'friends' and 'associates'. IMO, most people who knew Casey were her associates....the rest were either relatives or 'marks'.
JMO


My father told me that a person would be lucky if in their entire life they had one true friend, acquaintences were many, but friends were few and far between. I've always found that to be true. IMO.

[SaraSidle]

Originally Posted by bluwaters
That is another big mystery.
What in the world did Casey do all day?

=================

Thats a good question and one that is bugging me. It amazes me that no one has come forth and said anything about seeing her and Caylee together at a McDonals or at the mall or anywhere. I remember in the Laci Peterson case, people were coming out of the woodwork to get their faces on tv. But in this case.......nothing at all. Casey and Caylee had to be somewhere. For those that live in that area........what is the closet city to Orlando that Casey could drive back and forth to in the shortest amount of time? JMO

I was thinking the same thing. IMO

[st777jo]

Exit 13 said:

casey, normal, sweet, no drugs, barely drinks.
Her family, from what he seen, are respectable, good role models, intelligent. Nothing abusive.

Does any of this sound right from what we've seen????

[mosey2]

Okay, we have another category. SGWB - Shot Girls With Benefits. :biggrin::lol:where do i apply?

[OneUp]

Well, everybody else was at work or school (friends, Cindy George). Friends would say in the police interviews that Universal gave her very flexible hours and working conditions (including the possibility of working from home). She probably was up date with All My Children, One Life to Live, etc. One big problem in her life was the fact that Caylee was growing old enough to talk, therefore, could start to blow her cover. In one of the interviews it is mentioned that one of her teddy bears in named "mama;" was that because if Caylee talked about being with "mama" during the day, other people would think she was talking about her teddy.Hi barskin, I too think that Chaylees encroacing independance and ability to refute Caseys lies was causing some dangerous shifts in their relationship. IMO, the events with Casey and Cindy in June just ramped up things bringing Casey to a head with Caylee sooner than might otherwise have happened. I think Caylee would have either been in danger from Casey or would have been abandoned by her at some point in time regardless of any other events. It's just too bad that Caylee didn't survive long enough to be abandoned instead.
Too many negative and dangerous things converged at once for Casey IMO, and Caylee paid the price for that.
JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Faking any emotion is exhausting...just ask any actor/actress. I would imagine that faking grief would be the most taxing of all...the real thing certainly takes a great toll. I also believe they just forget because it is a front and is so foreign to them that they slip back into their own "normal" behaviors.
JMO though.

I don't think these people are capable of grief. They seem to turn situations around to make it all about them. IMO, grief is about loss, yes, the loss you feel, but also the loss to the world when a beautiful soul is taken, regardless of age. You mourn the person who is gone more than you mourn the effect that loss has had on you. Sorta like you don't go around b****ing about losing 29 pounds when you just lost your granddaughter. Make sense?

[Pruddennce]

In his interview with LE, Tony said he put her in charge of the shot girls. :shrug:

actually, the manner in which he answered the question: sounds like he didnt want to tell LE what she was doing there.....'So I mean she would just like come up there you know and try to help out with whatever'....then he says so I let her, you know, manage the shot girls...

sounds like casey pushing herself in and it appeared to me tony didnt want to say she mostly hung out and drank and danced.....but no audio so its hard to tell his demeanor when giving this account.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[st777jo]

My father told me that a person would be lucky if in their entire life they had one true friend, acquaintences were many, but friends were few and far between. I've always found that to be true. IMO.

Doesn't seem like much of any in the A's house. Friends, acquantances, or family. jmo

[martha]

Good night my friends hope tomorrow we hear something. and i truley hope it is good news.:rose:

[msjoni]

Exit 13 said:

casey, normal, sweet, no drugs, barely drinks.
Her family, from what he seen, are respectable, good role models, intelligent. Nothing abusive.

Does any of this sound right from what we've seen????

No, IMO, it's want they want to project to the outside world....My Ex Sociopath would never tell me anything that happened in his family(we were together over 20 years) according to him they were "The leave it to Beaver" family...:rolleyes:

[rosejustrose]

Several of you have this theory. I tend to agree but I would think if your freedom if not your life were at stake, your adrenalin would surge and get you through your "acting job". I mean, was it more important to feign human emotions to get a boyfriend or save your life? Like I say, I'm leaning ya'lls way, but I'm not *entirely* satisfied.

No offense, lol.

Can you 'splain a little more? IMO, I don't think Casey every thought her life was at stake. I really do believe that once the deed was done she put it out of head and moved on. I just don't think she thought anyone would give a damn. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Exit 13 said:

casey, normal, sweet, no drugs, barely drinks.
Her family, from what he seen, are respectable, good role models, intelligent. Nothing abusive.

Does any of this sound right from what we've seen????

ABSOLUTELY NOT! I've been refreshing the site and reading all this guys posts and I'm sorry, I'm just not buying what he's selling. I know he supposedly verified who he is with the admin over there but I'm beginning to think they've been snookered. JMO. He's just toeing the Anthony party line, IMO. He's not giving up anything that we haven't heard during the bond hearing. Except, of course, what a shot girl does and that he doesn't think Dante and Annie live at Sawgrass. Hmmmm? If that's true, it really would help Casey wouldn't it. And, it would make LE look pretty dumb since they already verified they did. JMO but I'm keeping my money in my pocket.

[summer4meplz]

It's from surviving the '70's

The braincells I have left are perfect


Does that mean I'm older if I survived the 60s?

[Takotna]

Seriously, though. If you read Tony's interview, it sounds like he didnt like Casey all that much. But she was really handy to have around the apartment because she did the laundry, cleaned and cooked for him and his friends. And then there's FWB

I had this same impression. She may have called him BF - but I don't think TonE considered Casey his GF - remember what he said about talking to her on the phone...I think he gave her the shot-girl think for something to do - so she didn't hang on him all night.

AllMO:)

[SaraSidle]

That's a good theory!

I was thinking maybe she stayed in 210 since it was empty. She had friends in
218 that could have helped. IMO

[st777jo]

Friendships require some depth of emotion. Honesty. Vulnerability. Get where I'm going with this? :rolleyes:


Sure do.. And with that its time to snore, lol

I have to rest for this site and the other loser, OJ. Nite all.

Casey, where is Caylee??????

[SaraSidle]

Oops 5 and that saying FFF was from Rowan and Martin Laugh IN

OOps now 6

[OneUp]

Well, this is just a theory on my part, but it is strange to name a doll "Mama". Most little girls see dolls as their babys.I haven't been able to get that out of my mind since I read it. Something about choosing to attach "mama" to her little "lovey" doll seems very sweet and sad at the same time to me. Most small children are rather egocentric...at Caylees age, Audrey named all of her dollies thiings like "Audrey with the blonde hair" and "Audrey with the bow"...sometimes the fixate on the names of tv or story characters too. I've worked with many children, and this is the first I've heard of with a doll called Mama.
I may in fact just be projecting, but I think Caylee chose that name because she craved real love and attention from her mother and had to settle for cuddling a doll. No matter what any 1,000's of pictures portray.
JMO.

[SaraSidle]

Faking any emotion is exhausting...just ask any actor/actress. I would imagine that faking grief would be the most taxing of all...the real thing certainly takes a great toll. I also believe they just forget because it is a front and is so foreign to them that they slip back into their own "normal" behaviors.
JMO though.

I think her being a sociopath she just falls into the roles and lies with really no energy used. IMO

[OneUp]

DSM IV: Anthony Family FallaciesI think the new DSM is due out in 2012...plenty of time to save a page if not for the need for ongoing study. I doubt they could find many willing to work that group though.
JMO.

[Ionmhainn]

hmm
I dont know-my daughter knows her babies as her babies, or if I say where is your baby, she goes and gets one.

but she does call a lot of things 'da-da'
I think mama might have been a word easiest to say for caylee when she first started talking.
or it could have been one of the first words she was taught.

my daughter knew her duppa since she was tiny--and now when I ask her where her duppa is, she says 'dada' & smacks her butt.

she also refers to her play horses as dada, movies as dada, her shoes as dada, there are a lot of things she refers to as dada-even though we both know she isnt talking about her father.


imo/jmo


Yeah, I think it's a stretch too. Who knows how or why little kids come up with names for things? My son decided that dogs were "beeoos." :shrug:

[Takotna]

ABSOLUTELY NOT! I've been refreshing the site and reading all this guys posts and I'm sorry, I'm just not buying what he's selling. I know he supposedly verified who he is with the admin over there but I'm beginning to think they've been snookered. JMO. He's just toeing the Anthony party line, IMO. He's not giving up anything that we haven't heard during the bond hearing. Except, of course, what a shot girl does and that he doesn't think Dante and Annie live at Sawgrass. Hmmmm? If that's true, it really would help Casey wouldn't it. And, it would make LE look pretty dumb since they already verified they did. JMO but I'm keeping my money in my pocket.

After reading the 400 pages and reading Exit's posts - I am of the opinion the friends all are staying as far away as possible from the drug subject and minizing the drinking. It's a CYA thing, I think. (IMO many of the pictures don't look like moderation - I don't know any moderate drinkers who polish off bottles of absinth)

AllMO:)

[rosejustrose]

Hi barskin, I too think that Chaylees encroacing independance and ability to refute Caseys lies was causing some dangerous shifts in their relationship. IMO, the events with Casey and Cindy in June just ramped up things bringing Casey to a head with Caylee sooner than might otherwise have happened. I think Caylee would have either been in danger from Casey or would have been abandoned by her at some point in time regardless of any other events. It's just too bad that Caylee didn't survive long enough to be abandoned instead.
Too many negative and dangerous things converged at once for Casey IMO, and Caylee paid the price for that.
JMO.


ITA. A classic case of the wrong place at the wrong time. I think, from all we've heard, Caylee was bright for her age and I think she probably grew up a lot faster than most in that household of hostility. She may have been on the verge of exposing a lot of things Casey preferred to keep quiet. And on top of that Casey's theiving and lying were starting to catch up with her. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Caylee said something to Casey that just set her off and she reacted like her Dad or Mom would, with violence, verbal and/or physical. Caylee wouldn't be able to defend herself, IMO. She may have been the outlet that Casey took her anger out on. IMO.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Trying to play catch and tooooo much info...

I found this for those playing catch up....


Geraldo & Jessie Grund - Caylee Anthony case 9/21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLH9mC9Uha0

Shucks noone asked about the seizures and hospital trip.

[rosejustrose]

Okay, either he didn't know them worth a fig or the whole world has plunged into The Twilight Zone, IMO.

I think it's just a ruse to minimize the about of drinking and drugging that actually did go on. His later posts are equally outrageous, IMO. They didn't do drugs, but others might have. GMAFB. This guy is now protecting Dante saying his big old cuddly Italian self should be left alone. JMO, it's all being posted as part of a larger agenda. JMO.

[barskin&co.]

Exit 13 said:

casey, normal, sweet, no drugs, barely drinks.
Her family, from what he seen, are respectable, good role models, intelligent. Nothing abusive.

Does any of this sound right from what we've seen????

That's sounds exactly right. Well, except that she's not so sweet, she at least smokes a little dope, she "liked drinking alot" according to people inteviewed by LE, and her family is disfuntional to the max and very controlling athough they managed to ignore the fact that she was faking being employed for over two years. But, like I said, other than that, the analysis is right on the money!

[rosejustrose]

Good night my friends hope tomorrow we hear something. and i truley hope it is good news.:rose:


Good night and yes, there's alway tomorrow!!!

[GrannyB]

Her life is at stake NOW! She knows that she and her family are being pilloried precisely because they don't show what everyone considers "grief". People have bitched at her from the word go that she isn't showing acceptable behaviors yet NOTHING changes. Not even a smidge of an attempt.
If I did something wrong, even if I thought I was justified for some reason, I would play the "game" to keep my azz out of jail or off death row. Like I said, just from watching TV, anyone knows people are "expected" to cry, search, furrow their brow at least. I just don't get it.

Jesse didn't change my mind about what happened to Caylee.
I believe what he says. Now I'm almost sure Casey didn't know Caylee was missing until Cindy came and got her and took her back to the house. It would explain her no emotions now. She goes along with Cindy's script cause that's what she's done since birth. Shame on George for not protecting her a long time ago.

[barskin&co.]

I haven't been able to get that out of my mind since I read it. Something about choosing to attach "mama" to her little "lovey" doll seems very sweet and sad at the same time to me. Most small children are rather egocentric...at Caylees age, Audrey named all of her dollies thiings like "Audrey with the blonde hair" and "Audrey with the bow"...sometimes the fixate on the names of tv or story characters too. I've worked with many children, and this is the first I've heard of with a doll called Mama.
I may in fact just be projecting, but I think Caylee chose that name because she craved real love and attention from her mother and had to settle for cuddling a doll. No matter what any 1,000's of pictures portray.
JMO.

Maybe Caylee didn't make up the name. Maybe one day, she talked to Cindy about being with "Mama" all day, and Casey told Cindy that's the name of her new dolly. And thereafter she told Caylee the name of the doll was "Mama."

[rosejustrose]

Sure do.. And with that its time to snore, lol

I have to rest for this site and the other loser, OJ. Nite all.

Casey, where is Caylee??????


Good Night:seeya:

[barskin&co.]

I can't see Casey being as compliant as that would call for, though.

Please! Casey is calling the shots in that family.

[rosejustrose]

Her life is at stake NOW! She knows that she and her family are being pilloried precisely because they don't show what everyone considers "grief". People have bitched at her from the word go that she isn't showing acceptable behaviors yet NOTHING changes. Not even a smidge of an attempt.
If I did something wrong, even if I thought I was justified for some reason, I would play the "game" to keep my azz out of jail or off death row. Like I said, just from watching TV, anyone knows people are "expected" to cry, search, furrow their brow at least. I just don't get it.

Could it be because she truly doesn't believe she did anything wrong?

[OneUp]

I was thinking maybe she stayed in 210 since it was empty. She had friends in
218 that could have helped. IMOI have given some consideration to the possiblity that she might leave Caylee in the empty apt. overnight when she went out. My big 'un at that age would play in her room each morning for about an hour if I left a cup of water and a snack for her when she got up. I f Caylee were given something to make her sleep that wouldn't even really be a big concern. IF Casey was drugging Caylee, and IF she had access to that Apt. through some guy working there ( I'm not so sure she did), it would have given her a place to leave Caylee when she was out or at TonE's in June...An accident certainly could have easily occurred if Caylee were left alone locked in an apartment. People leave children that young and younger home alone and locked in all the time, unfortunately. I doubt in an apartment complex that any noise a small child would make would be very noticeable.
That is pretty far out in speculation land for me at this point in time, but I did seriously consider it early on.
it was JMO...now, not so much MO.

[GrannyB]

I can't see Casey being as compliant as that would call for, though.

The Anthony's remind me of a family I know otherwise I wouldn't believe it either. It does happen and a lot of lives are ruined. I'm always looking for a way to blame Casey and I can't find one. Jesse sure didn't help changing my mind. Cindy is behind every problem that family ever had. She is one sick person.

[Lostgirl]

I understand that completely but what I can't understand is why they can't keep up the facade all the way through? Scotty couldn't do it, Drew couldn't do it and Casey can't do it. Why can't they know, just by watching TV if nothing else, what the world "expects" from people who are supposed to be grieving. It's like they're a chameleon until the dirty deed and then *poof* they lose all ability to feign human emotion. What gives? :shrug:


I've often wondered the same thing, you'd think by Casey's age she would have seen how to APPEAR to react normal to situations even though she doesnt manifest those feelings herself and it's just an act.

When I was little there was a house fire in our neighborhood and a lot of adults ran down the street to the house, a bunch of us kids hopped on bikes and headed down there too.

There was a mother out front screaming that her baby was in the house in her crib and she was trying to run back into the inferno but a couple of the neighborhood men were holding her back and then we heard the toddler screaming in the crib and a couple of men made a last desperate attempt to go in and try to get her, it was hopeless the
child was on the 2nd floor and the staircase going up was fully engulfed in flames.
Right after that a neighbor lady who was half crazed at the thought of the child inside... doused a blanket in water, threw it over herself and ran into the house before anyone could grab her and she died in the fire when the staircase collapsed as she tried to run up it.

I remember standing there absolutely horrified with tears pouring down my face, and thats how everyone else was reacting....except for this one older girl in the crowd who everyone knew as the "strange girl" in our community.

She stood their almost giddy with excitement, her eyes looked wild and her mouth was contorted into something that resembled a twisted grin.

One of the mothers in the crowd screamed at her to GO AWAY because she didn't want the mother of the baby to see how this weird girl was reacting and immediately it was like the girl snapped out of her own REAL reaction and realized she wasn't acting "normal".... she actually had to LOOK around to see how she SHOULD be reacting and then changed to mimicking what the rest of us were doing! It was soooo bizarre.

Years later I heard she had been institutionalized and diagnosed as a sociopath etc.

If no one had yelled at her and if she hadn't had any of us as an example of what she should be reacting like she never would have known to start crying and looking sad

When someone doesnt experience any of the normal reactions all they have to go on to make themself appear normal is mimicking the actions of others, if they don't have anyone to mimic they're lost.

jmo but i notice it in the tapes when Casey is being questioned by the police, she has very odd reactions to some questions and she doesn't even know that she's not reacting in a normal way.
I think that's because the only people in the room are the cops who are questioning her so she doesnt have anyone to mimic. :shrug:

Sociopaths are very strange creatures.

[Shellberry]

Exit 13 said:

casey, normal, sweet, no drugs, barely drinks.
Her family, from what he seen, are respectable, good role models, intelligent. Nothing abusive.

Does any of this sound right from what we've seen????
again, I'll say we dont what ever went on behind closed doors.
casey is a dr jekyll/mr hyde type to me at this point.
she could have play a whole other person in front of her 'friends'-or those she considered her friends at the time, but could have totally led another life with another group of people that none of them would have known about.
easy to do, imo-especially if she didnt see them all day in and day out.

Yeah, I think it's a stretch too. Who knows how or why little kids come up with names for things? My son decided that dogs were "beeoos." :shrug:

oh, lol, I could go on and on for the things my 20 month old says and does, I know what she means, but a stranger would have no clue.
like when a baby says a curse word, but they obviously dont mean 'that' word.
in their heads they know what they are saying-but if you try to correct them, they think you are the silly one-because they know what they are saying.
I say three-my daughter says tee-I say 'no-THHHree' she says, yea-tee.
LOL

I dont know-there could be a lot of reasons why caylee calls/says momma or mommy a lot.

I did notice though in the video of her reading her story- she sounds..'angry'--and she mentions papa and mama-like she is reading the story, but telling her own story in a way.


imo/jmo



imo/jmo

[bluwaters]

Laws, why does any one come forward if the can't tell the fricken' TRUTH?! :flamemad:
He just said that the they thought that the shovel was important, because of the dog hits in the yard, but it has come out false....
paraphrase...

I have been thinking about the shovel a lot recently and wondering why there have not been any reports on the forensic tests done on it.
At least, I never heard of any reports.
Did I miss something?
I did not know that the shovel evidence has been ruled out.

Does anyone know?
Someone on WS has asked him about that...

weird...

[GrannyB]

I have given some consideration to the possiblity that she might leave Caylee in the empty apt. overnight when she went out. My big 'un at that age would play in her room each morning for about an hour if I left a cup of water and a snack for her when she got up. I f Caylee were given something to make her sleep that wouldn't even really be a big concern. IF Casey was drugging Caylee, and IF she had access to that Apt. through some guy working there ( I'm not so sure she did), it would have given her a place to leave Caylee when she was out or at TonE's in June...An accident certainly could have easily occurred if Caylee were left alone locked in an apartment. People leave children that young and younger home alone and locked in all the time, unfortunately. I doubt in an apartment complex that any noise a small child would make would be very noticeable.
That is pretty far out in speculation land for me at this point in time, but I did seriously consider it early on.
it was JMO...now, not so much MO.

If Casey and Cindy were at the apts where is a person who saw them. They would have been seen. Especially by people she knew there.

[rosejustrose]

I haven't been able to get that out of my mind since I read it. Something about choosing to attach "mama" to her little "lovey" doll seems very sweet and sad at the same time to me. Most small children are rather egocentric...at Caylees age, Audrey named all of her dollies thiings like "Audrey with the blonde hair" and "Audrey with the bow"...sometimes the fixate on the names of tv or story characters too. I've worked with many children, and this is the first I've heard of with a doll called Mama.
I may in fact just be projecting, but I think Caylee chose that name because she craved real love and attention from her mother and had to settle for cuddling a doll. No matter what any 1,000's of pictures portray.
JMO.

I think I agree. She probably found more comfort with her doll than she did with her own mother or grandmother. She most likely sensed the tension and on some level realized that she may be the root cause of that tension. Little Caylee may have retreated into her own safe haven, too. I thought about it and my daughter had a lot of creative names for her dolls but not one of them was "mama". JMO.

[barskin&co.]

Jesse didn't change my mind about what happened to Caylee.
I believe what he says. Now I'm almost sure Casey didn't know Caylee was missing until Cindy came and got her and took her back to the house. It would explain her no emotions now. She goes along with Cindy's script cause that's what she's done since birth. Shame on George for not protecting her a long time ago.

Oh, I couldn't disagree with you more. Besides everything else, remember Casey abandoned the car with the decomp smell in it and told Tony and others multiple lies about it. Casey is the murderer and totally in charge of this operation.

[rosejustrose]

Shucks noone asked about the seizures and hospital trip.


The WS poster said he never heard of this.

[GrannyB]

Oh, I couldn't disagree with you more. Besides everything else, remember Casey abandoned the car with the decomp smell in it and told Tony and others multiple lies about it. Casey is the murderer and totally in charge of this operation.

We don't know when she left the car there out of gas. We are assuming it was when it was towed. She could very well have called George to come get it and one of her parents put it back there. None of her friends have said they smelled anything. But if a already decomposing body was put in the trunk and then parked...

[OneUp]

ITA. A classic case of the wrong place at the wrong time. I think, from all we've heard, Caylee was bright for her age and I think she probably grew up a lot faster than most in that household of hostility. She may have been on the verge of exposing a lot of things Casey preferred to keep quiet. And on top of that Casey's theiving and lying were starting to catch up with her. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Caylee said something to Casey that just set her off and she reacted like her Dad or Mom would, with violence, verbal and/or physical. Caylee wouldn't be able to defend herself, IMO. She may have been the outlet that Casey took her anger out on. IMO.
That is the most likely scenario to me as well Rose. I think that either she injured Caylee so badly that she didn't want to risk seeking medical care or she just blew out completely and decided to end her "problem" once and for all. I do think there was liable to have been a point at which she could have decided to stop or to continue...but that is just solely a "hut" feeling...no basis for the premaditation other than what I feel when I hear Casey speak her lies about what happened.
Sometimes trying to explain the "why" behind my theories is very difficult...it hinges on a ton of little things like body language, choice of words, the summary of past cases and their outcomes, etc. There are reasons I come up with my thoughts on this...but some of them are based on observances that are nearly instinctual. I've always had a "knack" for reading people though...so I have learned to listen to my instincts.
All JMO.

[barskin&co.]

I was thinking maybe she stayed in 210 since it was empty. She had friends in
218 that could have helped. IMO

Why would she have to stay there. Except for a few days in July, she was lieving with Tony.

[msjoni]

[QUOTE=bluwaters;12162953]He just said that the they thought that the shovel was important, because of the dog hits in the yard, but it has come out false....
paraphrase...

I have been thinking about the shovel a lot recently and wondering why there have not been any reports on the forensic tests done on it.
At least, I never heard of any reports.
Did I miss something?
I did not know that the shovel evidence has been ruled out.

Does anyone know?
Someone on WS has asked him about that...

weird...[/QUOTE

I asked him...and he never answered me...he only answered easy answers...the people on that board must be in their twenties or early thirties....Not that there is anything wrong with that :D

[msjoni]

and the shovel thing, like everybody else we thought it might have had some significance as the dogs did find something in the yard, but when it turned out false. i guess we brushed it aside....thats what he said...

[OneUp]

Maybe Caylee didn't make up the name. Maybe one day, she talked to Cindy about being with "Mama" all day, and Casey told Cindy that's the name of her new dolly. And thereafter she told Caylee the name of the doll was "Mama."That makes good sense barskin...I just had an emotional response when I first read that. Like I said, it may be a little projection from my own childhood where I craved maternal coziness. We are all guilty of doing that at times.

[barskin&co.]

We don't know when she left the car there out of gas. We are assuming it was when it was towed. She could very well have called George to come get it and one of her parents put it back there. None of her friends have said they smelled anything. But if a already decomposing body was put in the trunk and then parked...

Oh,Granny...no. You are heading into the Twilight Zone.

[rosejustrose]

Laws, why does any one come forward if the can't tell the fricken' TRUTH?! :flamemad:

He's getting a lot of attention from posters falling all over themselves thanking him for being there and his service to his country and OH isn't he dreamy. He's also doing a lot of the PM me stuff. It's some folks version of 15 minutes of fame, IMO.

[firefly75]

What an awful story! So sad. But the girl was able to "snap" back to a behavior that was accepted. Why don't the Anthonys? They're old enough to have studied enough of other peoples reactions to know what they should show even if they don't feel it. Heck, people have TOLD them what they "should" show! "Go out and search" "Why no tears?" ETC.

I have wondered that too....I noticed that she cried in court when she felt like she was in danger but never any tears when trying to find her own daughter who was in danger:( She has feelings for herself only...

[bluwaters]

[QUOTE=bluwaters;12162953]He just said that the they thought that the shovel was important, because of the dog hits in the yard, but it has come out false....
paraphrase...

I have been thinking about the shovel a lot recently and wondering why there have not been any reports on the forensic tests done on it.
At least, I never heard of any reports.
Did I miss something?
I did not know that the shovel evidence has been ruled out.

Does anyone know?
Someone on WS has asked him about that...

weird...[/QUOTE

I asked him...and he never answered me...he only answered easy answers...the people on that board must be in their twenties or early thirties....Not that there is anything wrong with that :D

Good question!
I hope he answers. He is pretty overwhelmed. You are right, he is answering the easy ones. Some of the questions have been pretty probing, but he is answering ones about if they had food at their parties.
I don't think that he really knows Casey very well. :shrug:

[barskin&co.]

Was she at Tony's when Jesse talked to her on June 24th?
Probably. She essentially moved in after the 16th, according to Tony and his friends, Clint and Nate. He went away for a few days on the 30th, and she had to fend for herself for a while, but on the 24th she was crashing at Tony's, doing the housework and cooking.

[GrannyB]

Oh,Granny...no. You are heading into the Twilight Zone.

We are in the twilight zone with the Anthony's. I just don't see why everyone is so dead set on Casey. There is no proof at all that it was her. I think that's LE's problem. They know it happened but can't prove which Anthony did it. I keep asking for proof and I don't get any. And I know I'm in the minority. Just for the record, I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm just saying what I see and think now.

[luvinlife]

ABSOLUTELY NOT! I've been refreshing the site and reading all this guys posts and I'm sorry, I'm just not buying what he's selling. I know he supposedly verified who he is with the admin over there but I'm beginning to think they've been snookered. JMO. He's just toeing the Anthony party line, IMO. He's not giving up anything that we haven't heard during the bond hearing. Except, of course, what a shot girl does and that he doesn't think Dante and Annie live at Sawgrass. Hmmmm? If that's true, it really would help Casey wouldn't it. And, it would make LE look pretty dumb since they already verified they did. JMO but I'm keeping my money in my pocket.


I get the impression he is a party guy and only knows Casey and her friends in a party atmosphere and really nothing more. He may be better friends with some of the people they know but mostly just parties with her friends. moo

[GrannyB]

I have wondered that too....I noticed that she cried in court when she felt like she was in danger but never any tears when trying to find her own daughter who was in danger:( She has feelings for herself only...


She cried when she saw Gorge. I don't think it had anything to do with danger.

[firefly75]

[QUOTE=msjoni;12162979]

Good question!
I hope he answers. He is pretty overwhelmed. You are right, he is answering the easy ones. Some of the questions have been pretty probing, but he is answering ones about if they had food at their parties.
I don't think that he really knows Casey very well. :shrug:
I don't think he does either. He said he had only met Caylee one time. That tells me either Casey never had Caylee very much or he doesn't know her at all....

[rosejustrose]

That's my point. I think Casey and Cindy have been vying for alpha wildcat status for some time and Casey trumped Cindy with the "removal" of Caylee.

I think you're right. Except, I just don't think Casey realizes what she's done. It's all been such a game to her.

[Cury-us Coyote]

The WS poster said he never heard of this.

Thanks. Wasn't it reported that Jessie took Casey to the hospital?

[firefly75]

She cried when she saw Gorge. I don't think it had anything to do with danger.

I meant like in danger of loosing her freedom or just being overwhelmed in jail and wondering if she will be set free.

[barskin&co.]

We are in the twilight zone with the Anthony's. I just don't see why everyone is so dead set on Casey. There is no proof at all that it was her. I think that's LE's problem. They know it happened but can't prove which Anthony did it. I keep asking for proof and I don't get any. And I know I'm in the minority. Just for the record, I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm just saying what I see and think now.

I just don't believe your theory fits in at all with the sequence of events or with the picture seen of Casey through her own voice and interviews of friends. She is absolutely not this waif, so controlled by her mother that she spent more than a month in jail. She ain't taking the rap for someone else.

[Rayosunshine]

That's what I mean. I wonder if she's could be in some kind of fugue state or something? I'll have to cogitate on that for a while.

Or, could she be experiencing: conversion, depersonalization d/o, dissociative "fugue".

Something very wrong here.

ratched, have you worked in psych? just curious - I haven't, only peds and gerentology.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

P.S. had to wrack my brain for the terms, then looked up the DSM diagnoses

[firefly75]

I just don't believe your theory fits in at all with the sequence of events or with the picture seen of Casey through her own voice and interviews of friends. She is absolutely not this waif, so controlled by her mother that she spent more than a month in jail. She ain't taking the rap for someone else.
:seeya: Hi Barskin
ITA....Casey doesn't even want to take the "wrap" for Casey much less someone else....

[GrannyB]

I meant like in danger of loosing her freedom or just being overwhelmed in jail and wondering if she will be set free.


I think Casey is just doing what is natural for her. Accepting whatever Cindy throws her way. I believe she cared about Caylee and Cindy took that from her. I also think she expected Cindy to do that. Not dead but make Caylee belong to her not Casey.

[barskin&co.]

Didn't one of the roommates (Nate?) say that Caylee was no longer coming to Tony's at that point?

Oh, yes, I thought that went without saying. She moved in to Tony's after the 16th, and Caylee was never seen again. Therefore, Jesse was wrong when he thought he heard Caylee. He heard Casey pretending to talk to Caylee, and (IMO) he assumed he heard her.

[rosejustrose]

He just said that the they thought that the shovel was important, because of the dog hits in the yard, but it has come out false....
paraphrase...

I have been thinking about the shovel a lot recently and wondering why there have not been any reports on the forensic tests done on it.
At least, I never heard of any reports.
Did I miss something?
I did not know that the shovel evidence has been ruled out.

Does anyone know?
Someone on WS has asked him about that...

weird...


I read that also. He was really non-specific about his "friends" came to the conclusion that it was nothing. IIRC, he didn't directly say that LE said it was a false hit. He said his friends thought the science was faulty. IIRC, Cindy was the one who said the dogs cleared the yard and the car. And, we all know she was lying. JMO. IMO, he didn't know squat about the shovel.

[OneUp]

[QUOTE=msjoni;12162979]

Good question!
I hope he answers. He is pretty overwhelmed. You are right, he is answering the easy ones. Some of the questions have been pretty probing, but he is answering ones about if they had food at their parties.
I don't think that he really knows Casey very well. :shrug:
Wasn't this "Lake Vaj" fellow the one who is quite a bit older than Casey and her peers? I remember that there was one man who partied with the group that was about my own age...too old to be hanging out in a group that was otherwise exclusively younger people.
Maybe he is just craving some attention....
JMO.

[bluwaters]

We are in the twilight zone with the Anthony's. I just don't see why everyone is so dead set on Casey. There is no proof at all that it was her. I think that's LE's problem. They know it happened but can't prove which Anthony did it. I keep asking for proof and I don't get any. And I know I'm in the minority. Just for the record, I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm just saying what I see and think now.
Good for you! I respect your opinion. :patriot:
You and I are in agreement about the A's and the twilight zone.

[GrannyB]

:seeya: Hi Barskin
ITA....Casey doesn't even want to take the "wrap" for Casey much less someone else....

If I lost my only child and Cindy was my mother, I really wouldn't care if I was in jail or not. Casey knows, Cindy always wins.

[barskin&co.]

:seeya: Hi Barskin
ITA....Casey doesn't even want to take the "wrap" for Casey much less someone else....

:seeya: Yes, indeedy.

[Rayosunshine]

This Exit 13 guy from WS said he knows Lee but they are not friends. So why would Lee call "him" after all this broke wide open???

Maybe Lee had his phone no. like he had Tony's. Casey must've been using Lee's phone??

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Shellberry]

Maybe Caylee didn't make up the name. Maybe one day, she talked to Cindy about being with "Mama" all day, and Casey told Cindy that's the name of her new dolly. And thereafter she told Caylee the name of the doll was "Mama."

could be--it also could be that the doll talked and said mama or mommy.

I think I agree. She probably found more comfort with her doll than she did with her own mother or grandmother. She most likely sensed the tension and on some level realized that she may be the root cause of that tension. Little Caylee may have retreated into her own safe haven, too. I thought about it and my daughter had a lot of creative names for her dolls but not one of them was "mama". JMO.

children live what they learn.
I think at caylees young age, she might not have seen the tension that we all do between the family.

my daughter loves her babies when she wakes up in the morning, she carries an armful out of her room with her and plops them on the couch, I give her cereal (I let her walk around with dry cereal) and a drink & she goes to each of her babies and gives them all a bite to eat & some of her drink before she even takes a bite/drink herself.
I never taught her that, she does it from watching me.

:shrug:


imo/jmo

[firefly75]

If I lost my only child and Cindy was my mother, I really wouldn't care if I was in jail or not. Casey knows, Cindy always wins.

I can understand your point about Cindy always winning...I can see what a control freak she is but not having any tyoe of grief for loosing your child if someone else killed her and the evidence is pointing all at you. I just cannot see that myself but I respect your opinon.

[msjoni]

He's getting a lot of attention from posters falling all over themselves thanking him for being there and his service to his country and OH isn't he dreamy. He's also doing a lot of the PM me stuff. It's some folks version of 15 minutes of fame, IMO.

You're spot on, that's why that board makes me crazy....And he still hasn't answered my question, but I wasn't drooling over him...:rolleyes:

[Lostgirl]

What an awful story! So sad. But the girl was able to "snap" back to a behavior that was accepted. Why don't the Anthonys? They're old enough to have studied enough of other peoples reactions to know what they should show even if they don't feel it. Heck, people have TOLD them what they "should" show! "Go out and search" "Why no tears?" ETC.

I totally agree and that's what baffles me about sociopaths

You'd think by a certain age you'd just know from reference how to ACT in almost any situation without needing someone to "mimic"

Sure you don't experience the sorrow like a normal person but surely you'd know that you're supposed to look sad or upset when something awful happens?

I think it must be just a lack of empathy and a basic selfishness that overrides and unless they are called on it they can't be bothered putting in the effort or something.

For us it's just our reaction, it's not an effort because it's involuntary... we "see the horrible thing" and we cry, or scream or whatever.

for them I guess it's like

"See the horrible thing"..... and then they have to start up their ACT engine and work at presenting an appropriate FAKE reaction... if they can slide by without having to do so all the better because to them it's work, they don't actually give a darn and the whole thing is just a nuisance to please the normal people around them and keep from being confronted on their behavior.

:shrug:

[firefly75]

Maybe Lee had his phone no. like he had Tony's. Casey must've been using Lee's phone??

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

IIRC the guy at WS said Mallory called him...I think that is Lee's gf:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

We don't know when she left the car there out of gas. We are assuming it was when it was towed. She could very well have called George to come get it and one of her parents put it back there. None of her friends have said they smelled anything. But if a already decomposing body was put in the trunk and then parked...


Hey Granny. Are suggesting that maybe George or Cindy transported Caylee's body in the trunk? We don't know if any of her friends smelled anything in her car because we don't the know the last time her friends were in or borrowed her car. The WS poster did say that in the 6-7 years he knew Casey he never heard that there was anything wrong with that car at all. As a matter of fact, he claims Casey never complained about anything, her homelife, her parents, Caylee, her job, her car, stress, strain, nothing, nada, no stress. What's emerging in this case is two totally different Caseys. The Casey pre-TonE and the Casey post-TonE. What caused the change is what I'd like to know. JMO.

[luvinlife]

Not literally. Sorry. It was a complete surprise when it was announced. George looked as though his world had just fallen apart. Cindy covered her face and bent in half. Several minutes later she appeared as though she were beginning to hyperventilate. Casey raised her chin defiantly and stared at Melich.



Personally I think that happened because while the dogs were at the house the handlers or someone in LE maybe were telling GA & CA that they could hit on urine, old blood, blah blah blah, just to keep them calm and so the news at the bond hearing was new to them possibly.

I don't know I am just throwing this out there as a possibility.

[GrannyB]

I can understand your point about Cindy always winning...I can see what a control freak she is but not having any tyoe of grief for loosing your child if someone else killed her and the evidence is pointing all at you. I just cannot see that myself but I respect your opinon.


According to Jesse Casey is acting different. No emotions.
It's just not what we would be acting like, but it is different.

[firefly75]

I have to comment on this again. I'm really surprised it seems their "wall" came down at any point and went right back up. Whatever wall it is. That just puzzles the heck out of me.

Yes it does! I think it might show that this family is use to caos and they have come to learn how to recover quickly for show:shrug:
I have a friend who is like that....She is always having a crisis but those who work with her and don't know her very well...well they think she is ..."mother of the year"

[barskin&co.]

Ohhhh, I didn't remember seeing this. Wow. How in the world did they recover from that and go back to either denial or instant cover up. Either way, they're pretty resilient I guess. :shrug:

Well, at least George and Cindy demonstrate emotions, although most of the time these days it takes the form of misplaced anger. Yes they are resilient. They accept, IMO, that they have lost Caylee and have decided to save Casey. And listen to Casey on all those recordings, ratched. That ain't no "fugue state" (which is the last BS refuge for the unexcusable defendant, anyway); that's a monster that just doesn't care. "What a waste!"

[bluwaters]

You're spot on, that's why that board makes me crazy....And he still hasn't answered my question, but I wasn't drooling over him...:rolleyes:

He just said that he doesn't see remaining friends with Casey even if she isn't convicted.

Some posters think that he is in love with Casey. I don't think so. :chicken:

I want to know why he thinks the shovel info is false!

[GrannyB]

Hey Granny. Are suggesting that maybe George or Cindy transported Caylee's body in the trunk? We don't know if any of her friends smelled anything in her car because we don't the know the last time her friends were in or borrowed her car. The WS poster did say that in the 6-7 years he knew Casey he never heard that there was anything wrong with that car at all. As a matter of fact, he claims Casey never complained about anything, her homelife, her parents, Caylee, her job, her car, stress, strain, nothing, nada, no stress. What's emerging in this case is two totally different Caseys. The Casey pre-TonE and the Casey post-TonE. What caused the change is what I'd like to know. JMO.


Yes that's what I'm thinking.

[rosejustrose]

That is the most likely scenario to me as well Rose. I think that either she injured Caylee so badly that she didn't want to risk seeking medical care or she just blew out completely and decided to end her "problem" once and for all. I do think there was liable to have been a point at which she could have decided to stop or to continue...but that is just solely a "hut" feeling...no basis for the premaditation other than what I feel when I hear Casey speak her lies about what happened.
Sometimes trying to explain the "why" behind my theories is very difficult...it hinges on a ton of little things like body language, choice of words, the summary of past cases and their outcomes, etc. There are reasons I come up with my thoughts on this...but some of them are based on observances that are nearly instinctual. I've always had a "knack" for reading people though...so I have learned to listen to my instincts.
All JMO.

Oh, I understand completely. In my line of work I supervise a number of people and being able to read the subtle innuendos is what helps me survive everyday in a world of, well, lunatics, LOL. Seriously, so much of Casey's interview is key into seeing what is ticking behind those empty eyes. She was so full of bluster and quick answers until confronted with her deceptions and cornered. At that point she became somewhat subdued and went into her almost inaudible uh-huhs. That's when I think her facade broke and investigators lost her. That's when she decided to stick with her story, IMO. She wasn't budging at that point and she hasn't yet. IMO, her psychosis is deep and it's going to take a lot to break her down. IMO she has convinced herself that she handed Caylee off and she does not know where she is. IMO she'll take that story to her grave. JMO.

[barskin&co.]

According to Jesse Casey is acting different. No emotions.
It's just not what we would be acting like, but it is different.

Oh Casey has emotions. They are just not the appropriate ones. Caylee is nothing to her.

[firefly75]

Hey Granny. Are suggesting that maybe George or Cindy transported Caylee's body in the trunk? We don't know if any of her friends smelled anything in her car because we don't the know the last time her friends were in or borrowed her car. The WS poster did say that in the 6-7 years he knew Casey he never heard that there was anything wrong with that car at all. As a matter of fact, he claims Casey never complained about anything, her homelife, her parents, Caylee, her job, her car, stress, strain, nothing, nada, no stress. What's emerging in this case is two totally different Caseys. The Casey pre-TonE and the Casey post-TonE. What caused the change is what I'd like to know. JMO.

Also, if George and Cindy were involved why would George call the police when the shed was broken into? I would think the last people he would want at his house are the police.

[bluwaters]

I agree but Casey girl, it's time to ACT! ACT like you're channeling Meryl Streep! NOW is the time to act human of all times she's ever acted. Everyone's told her how to do it. LE, media, message boards, friends, everyone has told her (them) they are behaving inappropriately and what behaviors would be appropriate. They're no dummies, are they that stubborn?
Surely JB has told her!

[GrannyB]

Also, if George and Cindy were involved why would George call the police when the shed was broken into? I would think the last people he would want at his house are the police.

If anyone should be feeling guilt in that family I hope George is feeling the most. He should have taken Casey and run when she was a child. George seems to have done a few things Cindy probably didn't want him to do.

[rosejustrose]

What an awful story! So sad. But the girl was able to "snap" back to a behavior that was accepted. Why don't the Anthonys? They're old enough to have studied enough of other peoples reactions to know what they should show even if they don't feel it. Heck, people have TOLD them what they "should" show! "Go out and search" "Why no tears?" ETC.

Could it be that they are so isolated and arrogant that they actually believe that their behavior is appropriate. IMO they have never been called on their behavior before or if they have it certainly hasn't been on this scale. It seems to me that they've run from their past troubles or hid them behind the walls of their house (note I didn't say home). I believe that the fates collided and threw together two people, George and Cindy, that produced such a toxic environment for their family while projecting a picture perfect family. The mixed signals screwed up the whole lot of them. I really do think it's too late to save them or teach them appropriate behavior. IMO, LE needs to recognize what they're dealing with and design their strategy accordingly. Make any sense? JMO.

[GrannyB]

Could it be that they are so isolated and arrogant that they actually believe that their behavior is appropriate. IMO they have never been called on their behavior before or if they have it certainly hasn't been on this scale. It seems to me that they've run from their past troubles or hid them behind the walls of their house (note I didn't say home). I believe that the fates collided and threw together two people, George and Cindy, that produced such a toxic environment for their family while projecting a picture perfect family. The mixed signals screwed up the whole lot of them. I really do think it's too late to save them or teach them appropriate behavior. IMO, LE needs to recognize what they're dealing with and design their strategy accordingly. Make any sense? JMO.

I'm hoping that's exactly what LE is doing.

[rosejustrose]

She cried when she saw Gorge. I don't think it had anything to do with danger.

She had that tissue dabbing her eyes and wiping her nose during Cindy's testimony also. It was all quite contrived. I think she was embarassed. IMO.

[rosejustrose]

Thanks. Wasn't it reported that Jessie took Casey to the hospital?


Yes. The WS poster was asked about this and he said he hadn't heard anything about it. I don't doubt that because he really didn't seem to know too much about Casey except surface stuff. IMO.

[Rayosunshine]

Shucks noone asked about the seizures and hospital trip.

I wish someone would have asked about that. If you remember could you refresh my memory on approx. when it was she was taken to the hospital for the seizure? I wonder if Cindy ever tried to get the info?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[OneUp]

I'm trying to read exit13 or "Lake Vaj" over at WS...Folks, I am really uinder the impression that he is really Lee or maybe Casey.
Does anyone here know how they verify posters who are involved in ongoing cases?

The "why" of what makes me think that I'll try to put into words when I fully process it...but take what he says with a spoon of salt please...better safe than sorry anyway.

He is definitely "vested" in minimizing any Family weirdness or involvement, making excuses for the family the few times he is willing to answer questions about them directly.....also seems to be trying to play up a history of "nice" with Casey's behavior, but some answers are so odd...like things a person like Casey might think are right, but that aren't quite right IYKWIM?
...maybe someone trying to impress upon the public that Casey was fine, but then suddenly became "not fine" because oof something drastic and beyond her control. I don't think I can explain this very well until i sleep on it and process...sorry!
JMO...
ETA: He makes "admissions" about some "bad" behaviors on Casey's part, but nothing very damaging...
Something is just not meshing with his answers. IMO.

[GrannyB]

Yes. The WS poster was asked about this and he said he hadn't heard anything about it. I don't doubt that because he really didn't seem to know too much about Casey except surface stuff. IMO.

I just caught the end of Jesse on Geraldo tonight. Did the trip to the hospital Cindy told us about come up?

[firefly75]

I know mabey I should not post this for some might say it is O/T but I have to because I am rolling over here.....
someone on WS asked the guy if they ever brought cooked food to the parties and if he ever had any of Casey's cooking:lol:
Mabey it is late and I am looney on cough meds but I am dying over here:)

[rosejustrose]

Wasn't this "Lake Vaj" fellow the one who is quite a bit older than Casey and her peers? I remember that there was one man who partied with the group that was about my own age...too old to be hanging out in a group that was otherwise exclusively younger people.
Maybe he is just craving some attention....
JMO.


He claimed to be two years older than Casey. Ex enlisted personnel. In the military while Casey was pregnant. Knew of her in HS because she was attractive but didn't get to know her until much later. Contradicts with his knowing her 6-7 years. IMO.

[Lostgirl]

I agree but Casey girl, it's time to ACT! ACT like you're channeling Meryl Streep! NOW is the time to act human of all times she's ever acted. Everyone's told her how to do it. LE, media, message boards, friends, everyone has told her (them) they are behaving inappropriately and what behaviors would be appropriate. They're no dummies, are they that stubborn?

oh definitely....I totally agree with you ratched

but isn't it strange how time and time again these type of people just can't pull it off

Just like Casey.....Scott Peterson had no problem telling millions of lies, one after the other, non stop... he had no problem acting like a romantic boyfriend for an entire evening out with Amber much like Casey conjuring up a seductive pole dancing stripper persona to impress the men at the club.... but it's a freaking chore for either of them to squeek out a REAL tear over their loved ones who are missing/dead!

[GrannyB]

I'm trying to read exit13 or "Lake Vaj" over at WS...Folks, I am really uinder the impression that he is really Lee or maybe Casey.
Does anyone here know how they verify posters who are involved in ongoing cases?

The "why" of what makes me think that I'll try to put into words when I fully process it...but take what he says with a spoon of salt please...better safe than sorry anyway.

He is definitely "vested" in minimizing any Family weirdness or involvement, making excuses for the family the few times he is willing to answer questions about them directly.....also seems to be trying to play up a history of "nice" with Casey's behavior, but some answers are so odd...like things a person like Casey might think are right, but that aren't quite right IYKWIM?
...maybe someone trying to impress upon the public that Casey was fine, but then suddenly became "not fine" because oof something drastic and beyond her control. I don't think I can explain this very well until i sleep on it and process...sorry!
JMO...
ETA: He makes "admissions" about some "bad" behaviors on Casey's part, but nothing very damaging...
Something is just not meshing with his answers. IMO.

Darn I can't post at WS. If it's one of them I sure would like to ask some questions. Apparently they don't have the nerve to post here.

[Rayosunshine]

If Casey and Cindy were at the apts where is a person who saw them. They would have been seen. Especially by people she knew there.

Some people just don't want to get involved. Sad.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[GrannyB]

I know mabey I should not post this for some might say it is O/T but I have to because I am rolling over here.....
someone on WS asked the guy if they ever brought cooked food to the parties and if he ever had any of Casey's cooking:lol:
Mabey it is late and I am looney on cough meds but I am dying over here:)

It sure was an important question..NOT. One of the reason I like this site better.

[firefly75]

Yeah, it sounded like some really profound discourse. :rolleyes:

(Not rolling eyes at you Firefly!)

LOL:) yes indeed

[OneUp]

I really think it may be LEE trying to begin some public damage control, and float some ideas to gauge how people will respond to them....He only comes right up to thigs that are widely known publically...anything not widely known he dances away from....

I just chose to share this to see if anyone else was getting the same impression as I...something is not right about this guy though... the posters responses just don't read like a normal partier male to me or something...hard to put my finger on why.
Someone else noted alot of conversational similarities between he and Casey. Maybe just because they are friends...maybe because they are from the same family, I find that more likely. My sister and I have vastly diferent educations, but the ways we "talk" are very similar despite my vocabulary being more "gussied up" than hers..I can fake being her on the phone with ease! LOL.
JMO.
ETA: he referrs to Dante as a big scruffy italian teddy bear...what straight male says a thing like that? Too weird...

[barskin&co.]

Yup, yup, yup. It was just a knee-jerk question I had before thinking it through. I'm determined to explain this to myself! ARGH!


Oh, forget about explaining it to yourself, my friend! I'm not sure the behavioral science team at Quantico could do that.

Here's some interesting stuff:

I learned that sociopaths learn to imitate the behavior of others so they can appear to be normal. The appearance of normalcy is important to sociopaths and can result from their level of intelligence, their family background, their professional or social standing and their social skills....
Lying is second nature to sociopaths. In 'Without Conscience', Dr. Hare says that "lying, deceiving and manipulation are natural talents for psychopaths. When caught in a lie or challenged by the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed - they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be consistent with the lie.....
I learned that sociopaths are impulsive and don't spend much time considering the consequences of their actions...
Often times, sociopaths are protected from the consequences of their behavior by family members, friends and colleagues....
http://withoutempathy.blogspot.com/2006/01/sociopaths-who-live-among-us.html

[Rayosunshine]

RN in a maximum security prison. Psych was DEFINITELY a component, lol.

Bless you.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[rosejustrose]

According to Jesse Casey is acting different. No emotions.
It's just not what we would be acting like, but it is different.

Yes, it is different. It's acting guilty and not giving a damn about what you've done. For Casey to not know that Caylee was missing would mean that she left the Anthony house alone and left Caylee behind. At some time after that Caylee died and the Anthony sought out Casey's car, stuck Caylee in the trunk and hoped and prayed Casey wouldn't notice the smell and would run out of gas and abandon the car. It's just not plausible, not at all. Casey is acting differently because I think for once in her miserable life she's being herself. JMO.

[luvinlife]

I really think it may be LEE trying to begin some public damage control, and float some ideas to gauge how people will respond to them....He only comes right up to thigs that are widely known publically...anything not widely known he dances away from....

I just chose to share this to see if anyone else was getting the same impression as I...something is not right about this guy though... the posters responses just don't read like a normal partier male to me or something...hard to put my finger on why.
Someone else noted alot of conversational similarities between he and Casey. Maybe just because they are friends...maybe because they are from the same family, I find that more likely. My sister and I have vastly diferent educations, but the ways we "talk" are very similar despite my vocabulary being more "gussied up" than hers..I can fake being her on the phone with ease! LOL.
JMO.
ETA: he referrs to Dante as a big scruffy italian teddy bear...what straight male says a thing like that? Too weird...



Do you think Lee or any Anthony would be saying they think that Casey killed Caylee, I don't .

[rosejustrose]

Yes it does! I think it might show that this family is use to caos and they have come to learn how to recover quickly for show:shrug:
I have a friend who is like that....She is always having a crisis but those who work with her and don't know her very well...well they think she is ..."mother of the year"

Good points and if you believe what Cindy's brother posted this family has had its share of drama to the extreme. Gambling, drinking problems, violence, bankruptcy, failed businesses, career changes, major physical moves of the family. These are not small upheavals in most people's lives. Yet, the Anthony's dont seem to have reacted to any of it in a normal way. IMO.

[firefly75]

I really think it may be LEE trying to begin some public damage control, and float some ideas to gauge how people will respond to them....He only comes right up to thigs that are widely known publically...anything not widely known he dances away from....

I just chose to share this to see if anyone else was getting the same impression as I...something is not right about this guy though... the posters responses just don't read like a normal partier male to me or something...hard to put my finger on why.
Someone else noted alot of conversational similarities between he and Casey. Maybe just because they are friends...maybe because they are from the same family, I find that more likely. My sister and I have vastly diferent educations, but the ways we "talk" are very similar despite my vocabulary being more "gussied up" than hers..I can fake being her on the phone with ease! LOL.
JMO.
ETA: he referrs to Dante as a big scruffy italian teddy bear...what straight male says a thing like that? Too weird...

Yes, the teddy bear quote was kinda odd:shrug:

[luvinlife]

Oh, forget about explaining it to yourself, my friend! I'm not sure the behavioral science team at Quantico could do that.

Here's some interesting stuff:

I learned that sociopaths learn to imitate the behavior of others so they can appear to be normal. The appearance of normalcy is important to sociopaths and can result from their level of intelligence, their family background, their professional or social standing and their social skills....
Lying is second nature to sociopaths. In 'Without Conscience', Dr. Hare says that "lying, deceiving and manipulation are natural talents for psychopaths. When caught in a lie or challenged by the truth, they are seldom perplexed or embarrassed - they simply change their stories or attempt to rework the facts so that they appear to be consistent with the lie.....
I learned that sociopaths are impulsive and don't spend much time considering the consequences of their actions...
Often times, sociopaths are protected from the consequences of their behavior by family members, friends and colleagues....
http://withoutempathy.blogspot.com/2006/01/sociopaths-who-live-among-us.html



It is truly scary isn't it.

[msjoni]

Darn I can't post at WS. If it's one of them I sure would like to ask some questions. Apparently they don't have the nerve to post here.

He's only answering the easy questions anyway..it's like that board =Larry King, our board=Nancy Grace...

[rosejustrose]

He just said that he doesn't see remaining friends with Casey even if she isn't convicted.

Some posters think that he is in love with Casey. I don't think so. :chicken:

I want to know why he thinks the shovel info is false!

How did they come up with the He's in love with her angle? Is it because he still has the flag she wore:rolleyes:

[OneUp]

Do you think Lee or any Anthony would be saying they think that Casey killed Caylee, I don't .I do. They know most of the public thinks she did, they are anonymous on a message board ( whoever it is is posing as exit13), I think they are trying to figure out what people think and what new information can be introduced and believed, and I do think they know it to be true...venting on a MB may be the only way to release that thought enough to relieve some of the emotional pressure it creates by keeping the knowledge secret.
I'm not saying I'm sure it IS anyone specific...didn't intend to say it that way anyway...But I get a feeling this is not some friend who just got bored. Mayeb someone fishing and testing the waters for Baez.
Could just be nut looking for attention too...he seems to be getting a few things "wrong" about some of the friends too..
Just thinking aloud here...trying to process.
I still am firm in saying things are just not right.
JMO.

[msjoni]

How did they come up with the He's in love with her angle? Is it because he still has the flag she wore:rolleyes:

I do visit that board.... and the smarter ones over there are not online....

[rosejustrose]

I'm trying to read exit13 or "Lake Vaj" over at WS...Folks, I am really uinder the impression that he is really Lee or maybe Casey.
Does anyone here know how they verify posters who are involved in ongoing cases?

The "why" of what makes me think that I'll try to put into words when I fully process it...but take what he says with a spoon of salt please...better safe than sorry anyway.

He is definitely "vested" in minimizing any Family weirdness or involvement, making excuses for the family the few times he is willing to answer questions about them directly.....also seems to be trying to play up a history of "nice" with Casey's behavior, but some answers are so odd...like things a person like Casey might think are right, but that aren't quite right IYKWIM?
...maybe someone trying to impress upon the public that Casey was fine, but then suddenly became "not fine" because oof something drastic and beyond her control. I don't think I can explain this very well until i sleep on it and process...sorry!
JMO...
ETA: He makes "admissions" about some "bad" behaviors on Casey's part, but nothing very damaging...
Something is just not meshing with his answers. IMO.

Thank you, darlin'. I've been saying that all night. I'm not buying what that person is selling and I think the admin over there has been snookered. IMO.

[firefly75]

He's only answering the easy questions anyway..it's like that board =Larry King, our board=Nancy Grace...

:lol:.....

[barskin&co.]

Okay, I'm in on the Exit thread at WS. I asked him how long she knew JP Chatt. I want to know if she knew him before she met Amy and Ricardo or if she knew him through them, which would mean that hse only knew him for a year, making that paternity question moot. Actually, I'm sorry, because I don't consider it a terribly relevant issue.
Anybody want me to ak anything?

[luvinlife]

I do. They know most of the public thinks she did, they are anonymous on a message board ( whoever it is is posing as exit13), I think they are trying to figure out what people think and what new information can be introduced and believed, and I do think they know it to be true...venting on a MB may be the only way to release that thought enough to relieve some of the emotional pressure it creates by keeping the knowledge secret.
I'm not saying I'm sure it IS anyone specific...didn't intend to say it that way anyway...But I get a feeling this is not some friend who just got bored. Mayeb someone fishing and testing the waters for Baez.
Could just be nut looking for attention too...he seems to be getting a few things "wrong" about some of the friends too..
Just thinking aloud here...trying to process.
I still am firm in saying things are just not right.
JMO.



You could be right, anything is possible, especially in this case. I just think all they would have to do is read a few threads on any site and find out really fast what the public thinks.

Anyway I think he is just a party boy especially when he explains why they named the house as they did. lol moo

[rosejustrose]

I know mabey I should not post this for some might say it is O/T but I have to because I am rolling over here.....
someone on WS asked the guy if they ever brought cooked food to the parties and if he ever had any of Casey's cooking:lol:
Mabey it is late and I am looney on cough meds but I am dying over here:)

Saw it too and he gave a LOL about that. People came drank, partied and then went to Taco Bell or Wendy's IIRC. barf Wouldn't want to be the parking lot attendant at either one of those fine establishments in the vicinity of this place. JMO.

[msjoni]

Very interesting reading. I'm still reading but taking a break to say isn't it amazing that they walk amongst us and we don't know who they are. It's like science fiction where the artificial intelligence "beings" are amongst us but would have no compunction to kill us if we have something they want or we stand in their way, or just on a whim. This is so freaking scary. MOMMA!!! :chicken:

I've read that book among many other sociopath's books recommended by a therapist to try and understand my ex...all I can say is I'm glad he's out of my life...he always reminded me of a robot....

[OneUp]

Hmm-kay. I'm going to DC this streaming thought process on the stuff at WS...it seems to be bugging some people. Honestly, it is just processing and asking for feedback. Like brainstorming, I thought someone else might catch something I didn't and help me make my unease "fit" better. I usually process like this after I read and off the board....later I bring the fully formed concepts here. I will def. do that from now on! It is not hellpful to explain or argue. That takes away from my ability to process.
Sorry to those who found this confusing, etc...I just felt like i wanted to puzzle on this in a "group".
It's getting late anyway. I'll just read up and take off.

[GrannyB]

He's only answering the easy questions anyway..it's like that board =Larry King, our board=Nancy Grace...

I don't like Larry King and to me Nancy has a chip on her shoulder and is never wrong. It's the posters here I enjoy.
99% of them allow you to have your opinion and even think about it. It's like we really all just want to know what happened.

[rosejustrose]

oh definitely....I totally agree with you ratched

but isn't it strange how time and time again these type of people just can't pull it off

Just like Casey.....Scott Peterson had no problem telling millions of lies, one after the other, non stop... he had no problem acting like a romantic boyfriend for an entire evening out with Amber much like Casey conjuring up a seductive pole dancing stripper persona to impress the men at the club.... but it's a freaking chore for either of them to squeek out a REAL tear over their loved ones who are missing/dead!

I think it has a lot to do with stunted emotional growth. It's almost like they are stuck in a perpertual state of childhood. They are selfish and self-absorbed. They've never learned to care about anyone other than themselves and no amount of acting lessons is going to help them get by that one, IMO. IMO, it would be like casting Brittney Spears to play Scarlett O'Hara. She'd never be able to pull it off. We see that happen all the times when actors are miscast, why is it so hard to believe it happens in real life? JMO.