Sun nite 9/21

[msjoni]

The smarter ones are on their jobs as doorstops. (Ohhhh, no I di'int!) :chicken:

:lol::lol:

[OneUp]

Okay, I'm in on the Exit thread at WS. I asked him how long she knew JP Chatt. I want to know if she knew him before she met Amy and Ricardo or if she knew him through them, which would mean that hse only knew him for a year, making that paternity question moot. Actually, I'm sorry, because I don't consider it a terribly relevant issue.
Anybody want me to ak anything?Thank you for asking that one barskin! I wanted to ask about her ring...it has been , well in my dreams ( I don't want any flack for that, you all know I'm not trying to fly any psychic flag!!!)..but I see he was asked and had no info.
Maybe ask him who WAS around then...???
At least it might cleaqr up some guys' names

[luvinlife]

Hmm-kay. I'm going to DC this streaming thought process on the stuff at WS...it seems to be bugging some people. Honestly, it is just processing and asking for feedback. Like brainstorming, I thought someone else might catch something I didn't and help me make my unease "fit" better. I usually process like this after I read and off the board....later I bring the fully formed concepts here. I will def. do that from now on! It is not hellpful to explain or argue. That takes away from my ability to process.
Sorry to those who found this confusing, etc...I just felt like i wanted to puzzle on this in a "group".
It's getting late anyway. I'll just read up and take off.


Sorry your not bugging I just happen to disagree, but I could be wrong. i just think the guy is a party guy, Ive known many and just some of what he says is usless info because he doesn't even really know her, he just happens to party with her.

But I am always interested in others opinions.

Sorry if I offended you in some way.

[rosejustrose]

Darn I can't post at WS. If it's one of them I sure would like to ask some questions. Apparently they don't have the nerve to post here.

It can't be Casey because according to that poster she has no phone or internet privledges. It must be Lee if it is an Anthony. At times I felt it was a male posting and at others a female. I suspect it was a "group" effort. But, that's just my opinion. No, I don't think they would post over here because I think the standards are a little different. I don't think the ownership here would be willy nilly about verifying the poster's idendity by a mere phone call. IMO this site is more for hardcore posters and facts, WS seems a little "softer" to me. JMO and no offense intended. Exit13 certainly caused quite a stir though. A poster asked how he came up with that nic he claimed to have been on Amazon. I thought immediately of the NJ Turnpike, which exit???? SNL. Exit 13 is Elizabeth/Port Neward IIRC. JMO.

[firefly75]

Saw it too and he gave a LOL about that. People came drank, partied and then went to Taco Bell or Wendy's IIRC. barf Wouldn't want to be the parking lot attendant at either one of those fine establishments in the vicinity of this place. JMO.

okay I feel better that he had a lol too:) Some of those ?'s over there..were well killing me:) Now that I am thinking about it I wonder if any of them look over here? I better be good now so I don't offend anyone

[rosejustrose]

I know! Scotty boy was one of my examples. As is Drew Peterson. Phil Spector, et al. Unbelievable!


Phil Spector....ewwwwwww! He totally creeps me out. Totally!

[msjoni]

Night everyone...see ya ll tomorrow...:seeya:

[OneUp]

luvin, no not offended...just seeing how it is confusig to read and that others may not be seeing it as sorting out but as a more solid opinion, KWIM?
I am icked out that not only does he say he still has the flag she wore, but that he seems kind of thrilled by that or something...Just icky to relate that smiley face and the keeping of something "naughty" that casey wore...esp. considering what we ( and he too!) think she has done.
ETA: it's like he is gloating over a trophy...that really bothers me. Just one of those really not normal responses IMO.

[firefly75]

Night everyone...see ya ll tomorrow...:seeya:

:seeya: night

[OneUp]

It can't be Casey because according to that poster she has no phone or internet privledges. It must be Lee if it is an Anthony. At times I felt it was a male posting and at others a female. I suspect it was a "group" effort. But, that's just my opinion. No, I don't think they would post over here because I think the standards are a little different. I don't think the ownership here would be willy nilly about verifying the poster's idendity by a mere phone call. IMO this site is more for hardcore posters and facts, WS seems a little "softer" to me. JMO and no offense intended. Exit13 certainly caused quite a stir though. A poster asked how he came up with that nic he claimed to have been on Amazon. I thought immediately of the NJ Turnpike, which exit???? SNL. Exit 13 is Elizabeth/Port Neward IIRC. JMO.Your idea about it being a group posting as one makes sense...this is just thesort of thing I neede! It seems to go from being put out with casey, to enjoyuing being "connected " to her, to anger at her...and there is some defensiveness about certain friends, even over little nothing type questions...
Yes, a group would explain the almost schizo. personality coming across.
TY.

[rosejustrose]

I really think it may be LEE trying to begin some public damage control, and float some ideas to gauge how people will respond to them....He only comes right up to thigs that are widely known publically...anything not widely known he dances away from....

I just chose to share this to see if anyone else was getting the same impression as I...something is not right about this guy though... the posters responses just don't read like a normal partier male to me or something...hard to put my finger on why.
Someone else noted alot of conversational similarities between he and Casey. Maybe just because they are friends...maybe because they are from the same family, I find that more likely. My sister and I have vastly diferent educations, but the ways we "talk" are very similar despite my vocabulary being more "gussied up" than hers..I can fake being her on the phone with ease! LOL.
JMO.
ETA: he referrs to Dante as a big scruffy italian teddy bear...what straight male says a thing like that? Too weird...

You're referring to my earlier post and ITA. It was not a normal discourse between a comtemporary of Casey and the other posters. The terminology was similar but there was something off. The other thing that bothered me was that is supposedly the first time this poster is on a message board and lo and behold he's got it down pat. I just posted up thread a bit that I couldn't tag the sex of the poster. At times it seemed male but more female at others. Maybe more than one person contributing to the responses was my first thought. There was also a little too much tap dancing going on, IMO and for my liking. And oh, I come from a large Italian/Irish family, all the men in my family refer to other men as cuddly and such, NOT. It was too much, IMO. I'm not buying it was anyone who knew or knows Casey as a friend or even a casual acquaintence. JMHO.

[luvinlife]

luvin, no not offended...just seeing how it is confusig to read and that others may not be seeing it as sorting out but as a more solid opinion, KWIM?
I am icked out that not only does he say he still has the flag she wore, but that he seems kind of thrilled by that or something...Just icky to relate that smiley face and the keeping of something "naughty" that casey wore...esp. considering what we ( and he too!) think she has done.
ETA: it's like he is gloating over a trophy...that really bothers me. Just one of those really not normal responses IMO.



I do know what you mean.


I know he says some pretty immature things, I guess that is why I think he is just a party boy. I have a 19 yr old so I hear some pretty stupid things that boys can say and do. His friends facebook and myspace pages look a lot like the pages of this guys.

[Joan Weiss]

luvin, no not offended...just seeing how it is confusig to read and that others may not be seeing it as sorting out but as a more solid opinion, KWIM?
I am icked out that not only does he say he still has the flag she wore, but that he seems kind of thrilled by that or something...Just icky to relate that smiley face and the keeping of something "naughty" that casey wore...esp. considering what we ( and he too!) think she has done.
ETA: it's like he is gloating over a trophy...that really bothers me. Just one of those really not normal responses IMO.ITA. I don't think there are any saints in Casey's world. And why would he go on Geraldo? imo

[luvinlife]

Your idea about it being a group posting as one makes sense...this is just thesort of thing I neede! It seems to go from being put out with casey, to enjoyuing being "connected " to her, to anger at her...and there is some defensiveness about certain friends, even over little nothing type questions...
Yes, a group would explain the almost schizo. personality coming across.
TY.



I can imagine 10 friends sitting around answering questions.lol

Drinking along as well.

[rosejustrose]

I do. They know most of the public thinks she did, they are anonymous on a message board ( whoever it is is posing as exit13), I think they are trying to figure out what people think and what new information can be introduced and believed, and I do think they know it to be true...venting on a MB may be the only way to release that thought enough to relieve some of the emotional pressure it creates by keeping the knowledge secret.
I'm not saying I'm sure it IS anyone specific...didn't intend to say it that way anyway...But I get a feeling this is not some friend who just got bored. Mayeb someone fishing and testing the waters for Baez.
Could just be nut looking for attention too...he seems to be getting a few things "wrong" about some of the friends too..
Just thinking aloud here...trying to process.
I still am firm in saying things are just not right.
JMO.


I'm still with ya, buddy!:beer:

[rosejustrose]

Okay, I'm in on the Exit thread at WS. I asked him how long she knew JP Chatt. I want to know if she knew him before she met Amy and Ricardo or if she knew him through them, which would mean that hse only knew him for a year, making that paternity question moot. Actually, I'm sorry, because I don't consider it a terribly relevant issue.
Anybody want me to ak anything?


Hey, you hang with Clooney and haven't invited me? :punch: I can't think of anything to trip him up right off the top of my head but I don't think he's the real deal. JMO and "gut" feeling, absolutely.

[OneUp]

Was this guy on Geraldo?...or at least who this poster says they are.

He keeps saying that Casey wasn't a drama quenn and like things, but her MS postings alone reflect self created dramas..."almost killed somebody tonight"..."Draaammmaa!"....seems I remember some other things that led me to think she liked creating a stir for the attention. That sits odd with me...
ETA: He refers to her as smart as well...I would beg to differ just based upon her "common" way of speaking...maybe his standards are low...he still comes across as admiring Casey and wanting to "toot her horn" ...

[aubrey04]

Is this Lee's girlfriends, Mallory Parker, myspace --It is set to private but the owner's name is Mallory and there is a picture of a very attractive girl with a baby.. The title of the page reads:

"Mally-Bu! loves the Anthony Family"

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=33318424

:read:

[rosejustrose]

You could be right, anything is possible, especially in this case. I just think all they would have to do is read a few threads on any site and find out really fast what the public thinks.

Anyway I think he is just a party boy especially when he explains why they named the house as they did. lol moo

Yeah, he said they named it after female genitalia - since when do 24 year old guys use those words? IMO he'd have been a little cruder or a little more stupid in his answer. That was the wrong answer for who he's supposed to be. JMO but it struck me as strange and female in the way it was answered.

[rosejustrose]

The smarter ones are on their jobs as doorstops. (Ohhhh, no I di'int!) :chicken:


Oh yes you did:biggrin:

[barskin&co.]

Hey, you hang with Clooney and haven't invited me? :punch: I can't think of anything to trip him up right off the top of my head but I don't think he's the real deal. JMO and "gut" feeling, absolutely.
Oh, some poster Litigess (who has no sense of humor) assured me he is legit, but, frankly, I don't trust WS.

[rosejustrose]

Hmm-kay. I'm going to DC this streaming thought process on the stuff at WS...it seems to be bugging some people. Honestly, it is just processing and asking for feedback. Like brainstorming, I thought someone else might catch something I didn't and help me make my unease "fit" better. I usually process like this after I read and off the board....later I bring the fully formed concepts here. I will def. do that from now on! It is not hellpful to explain or argue. That takes away from my ability to process.
Sorry to those who found this confusing, etc...I just felt like i wanted to puzzle on this in a "group".
It's getting late anyway. I'll just read up and take off.

Have you not read my responses to your posts or are you ignoring me? I'm with you 100% on you analysis of what is going on. IMO.

[luvinlife]

Yeah, he said they named it after female genitalia - since when do 24 year old guys use those words? IMO he'd have been a little cruder or a little more stupid in his answer. That was the wrong answer for who he's supposed to be. JMO but it struck me as strange and female in the way it was answered.



Maybe he thought he would be banned if he said anything different. I don't know.

[barskin&co.]

Is this Lee's girlfriends, Mallory Parker, myspace --It is set to private but the owner's name is Mallory and there is a picture of a very attractive girl with a baby.. The title of the page reads:

"Mally-Bu! loves the Anthony Family"

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=33318424

:read:


Oy......oy, veh! :chicken:

[GrannyB]

Hey, you hang with Clooney and haven't invited me? :punch: I can't think of anything to trip him up right off the top of my head but I don't think he's the real deal. JMO and "gut" feeling, absolutely.


Heck ask him which of the Anthony's he is :lol:

[luvinlife]

Was this guy on Geraldo?...or at least who this poster says they are.

He keeps saying that Casey wasn't a drama quenn and like things, but her MS postings alone reflect self created dramas..."almost killed somebody tonight"..."Draaammmaa!"....seems I remember some other things that led me to think she liked creating a stir for the attention. That sits odd with me...



No he wasnt' on Geraldo.

This is supposed to be a guy from the party pics we have seen with Casey in them, the flag, the bare bottoms, the lollipop one, the person bent over in front of her. I can't remember them all.

[Lostgirl]

I'm just watching the Geraldo youtube that someone posted the link for a few pages back (thanks btw, I hadnt seen it :) )

and Jessie says something about how "he doesn't recognize this new cold, uncaring Casey because the Casey he knew was always so emotional and concerned about presenting herself as whatever that bf would want and changing her haircolor or whatever it took to please him... etc etc."

wow, that sounds so unhealthy and really isn't at all the same as caring deeply about another persons well being (like her caring for Caylee)

imo that behavior is more about seeking approval and pleasing someone she looks up to so he'll tell her how she's so "pretty, gorgeous, sweet, lovable, adorable, kind and "What a GOOD girl she is" :shrug:

like maybe all the things that she never heard from Cindy?

It struck me as possibly her method of getting the validation and praise she craves.

too weird!

[rosejustrose]

Thank you for asking that one barskin! I wanted to ask about her ring...it has been , well in my dreams ( I don't want any flack for that, you all know I'm not trying to fly any psychic flag!!!)..but I see he was asked and had no info.
Maybe ask him who WAS around then...???
At least it might cleaqr up some guys' names


He was asked about the ring she wore on her middle finger. His response. I have no clue. jMO.

[rosejustrose]

Good night, all! :seeya: Sleep well!

Night:seeya: Pleasant dreams:rose:

[VII]

link to WS please?


TIA

[GrannyB]

Is this Lee's girlfriends, Mallory Parker, myspace --It is set to private but the owner's name is Mallory and there is a picture of a very attractive girl with a baby.. The title of the page reads:

"Mally-Bu! loves the Anthony Family"

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=33318424

:read:

Does that baby look like Caylee to anyone but me?

[firefly75]

Maybe he thought he would be banned if he said anything different. I don't know.

Yes, my nephew is 22 and he calls it a girls privates...when he is around "adult people" in his terms:)

[firefly75]

Does that baby look like Caylee to anyone but me?

I thought the same thing

[barskin&co.]

No he wasnt' on Geraldo.

This is supposed to be a guy from the party pics we have seen with Casey in them, the flag, the bare bottoms, the lollipop one, the person bent over in front of her. I can't remember them all.

Oh, well, then. That's a source we can trust!

Good night! :seeya:

[firefly75]

No he wasnt' on Geraldo.

This is supposed to be a guy from the party pics we have seen with Casey in them, the flag, the bare bottoms, the lollipop one, the person bent over in front of her. I can't remember them all.

the naughty ones;)

[aubrey04]

So SHE'S the one who loves The Anthony Family!

One of the few, it seems. I just plugged in her name to myspace and Orlando was the location --- that's the only myspace that came up. I assume that is her.. That isn't Caylee in that pix, is it?

[OneUp]

Have you not read my responses to your posts or are you ignoring me? I'm with you 100% on you analysis of what is going on. IMO.NO rose...I just assumed you were reading my mind and already KNEw what I was thinking ! LOL!:D
I've been reading though!
Right niow your idea of it being multiple people sits the best with me...he just jumps from sounding a bit intelligent to not so much, male to female,...admiring and liking Casey to showing disgust...
Can't be one person being honest. No way! Either someone lyiing or more than one person.

[rosejustrose]

luvin, no not offended...just seeing how it is confusig to read and that others may not be seeing it as sorting out but as a more solid opinion, KWIM?
I am icked out that not only does he say he still has the flag she wore, but that he seems kind of thrilled by that or something...Just icky to relate that smiley face and the keeping of something "naughty" that casey wore...esp. considering what we ( and he too!) think she has done.
ETA: it's like he is gloating over a trophy...that really bothers me. Just one of those really not normal responses IMO.


IMO he was playing to two audiences. The pros and the cons. He came down on both sides if you read each of his responses carefully. The flag dress was supposedly from a party pre-Caylee's disappearance, ergo when Casey was still good Casey. Read into it anything you like. I just read someone trying to placate both sides of the fence while still garnering praise and thanks for being willing to give of their time to post on that site. BLUF: Pathetic is what I came away with, JMO.

[luvinlife]

Shoot they wouldn't have banned him if he described <Bleep Bleep>. Maybe he thought they would have but they would have forgiven anything for the celebrity, IMO.


I will have to ask my 19yr old son what him and his friends would call it if they were asked in front of adults.

lol


You're probably right they wouldn't have banned him for anything I don't think.

He is not exactly the go to person for important info on Casey or the Anthony family I don't think.

[GrannyB]

I thought it did too, Granny.

She looks like maybe 18 months or so. Didn't Lee say he hadn't spoken or seen Casey for a year. I wonder why not.

[OneUp]

link to WS please?


TIAhttp://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71620&page=28
This is the last page with the poster we are talking about.

[firefly75]

NO rose...I just assumed you were reading my mind and already KNEw what I was thinking ! LOL!:D
I've been reading though!
Right niow your idea of it being multiple people sits the best with me...he just jumps from sounding a bit intelligent to not so much, male to female,...admiring and liking Casey to showing disgust...
Can't be one person being honest. No way! Either someone lyiing or more than one person.

or we have another physco on our hands:shrug:

[luvinlife]

the naughty ones;)


yep

At least the ones I have seen, I saw some bare bottoms and I don't think CW wants us to post a link. lol

[VII]

Thanks, OneUp :D

[OneUp]

Does that baby look like Caylee to anyone but me?
I thought so too...at about 18-20 Mos. of age...more baby than she was this summer, IMO.

[rosejustrose]

ITA. I don't think there are any saints in Casey's world. And why would he go on Geraldo? imo

He indicated he'd take money for a book deal. I don't think the poster is a 24 year old party boy that has been desensitized from his time in the military. It was quite a profile that appealed to the masses at WS. That's all it was imo.

[luvinlife]

there is a cliff notes version if anyone is interested.:D


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71630



The Exit 13 guy from Lake Vaj

[rosejustrose]

Was this guy on Geraldo?...or at least who this poster says they are.

He keeps saying that Casey wasn't a drama quenn and like things, but her MS postings alone reflect self created dramas..."almost killed somebody tonight"..."Draaammmaa!"....seems I remember some other things that led me to think she liked creating a stir for the attention. That sits odd with me...
ETA: He refers to her as smart as well...I would beg to differ just based upon her "common" way of speaking...maybe his standards are low...he still comes across as admiring Casey and wanting to "toot her horn" ...


He toots her horn on the one hand and then slaps her down with the other. She's not a drama queen???? That was bait in my mind. IMO that poster was trying to elicit posters to respond with specifics of when she was a drama queeen. Incidents that maybe her lawyer does know about that may come up and he can quell. JMO but this was a contrived set up. The poster who was Exit13 baited more than he/she provided answers that weren't already known. And, when it came to questions of evidence found, he/she just did not respond and gave some lame excuse about being tired, being at it for 5 hours, PM me, etc, etc, this was not the real deal in my mind. This was an info seeking mission on someone's behalf. IMO there are two sides, take your pick.

[Lostgirl]

I think it has a lot to do with stunted emotional growth. It's almost like they are stuck in a perpertual state of childhood. They are selfish and self-absorbed. They've never learned to care about anyone other than themselves and no amount of acting lessons is going to help them get by that one, IMO. IMO, it would be like casting Brittney Spears to play Scarlett O'Hara. She'd never be able to pull it off. We see that happen all the times when actors are miscast, why is it so hard to believe it happens in real life? JMO.

thats a great analogy rose and you're so right, Scott always struck me as a spoiled little chubby boy with an over bearing mother.... much like Casey/Cindy Anthony!

[aubrey04]

She looks like maybe 18 months or so. Didn't Lee say he hadn't spoken or seen Casey for a year. I wonder why not.

Right. That is what I was thinking... she looks younger in that pix than the recent pictures of Caylee.. I zoomed in on the picture to 400% and it LOOKS like her, but it's hard to tell because her head is tilted down.

Looks like her to me but then a kid of Lee's might, too. :shrug:

Good point, it could be Lee's child.. I am leaning more towards it being Caylee though but I definitely could be wrong.

:shrug:

[OneUp]

I really do need to get on to my bed...I hope my posting out loud didn't drive anyone too crazy...I write out awful notes ike that to myself when i am figuring things out IRL...If you saw them you would think I was psycho. for certain!
I would just put ol exit13 in the "Interesting IF true" file for now...Something is not right with the whole of that Q&A


I did want to ask if anyone but me has had dreams about Casey's silver ring? I had posted some thoughts about 2 weeks ago regarding the possibility of DNA being found in her jewelry. Something I did combined with a dream I had then made me feel compelle to email the Sheriffs dept. and suggest they look into finding and testing her jewelry/.
That ring has been the "blue clogs" to me. It is every single nightmare I have and just jumps out at me when I see it in pictures.
I don't want everyone teasing me about being Psychic, but I have had my mind "fix" on things before that seemed inane and turned out to be important. Maybe just my subconcious at work when the things are from my own life...I'm suer there is an explanantion.:D
That ring is sticking with me though.
Night Gals and Guys!
JMO...especially anything I shouldn't have posted, LOL!

[rosejustrose]

I'm just watching the Geraldo youtube that someone posted the link for a few pages back (thanks btw, I hadnt seen it :) )

and Jessie says something about how "he doesn't recognize this new cold, uncaring Casey because the Casey he knew was always so emotional and concerned about presenting herself as whatever that bf would want and changing her haircolor or whatever it took to please him... etc etc."

wow, that sounds so unhealthy and really isn't at all the same as caring deeply about another persons well being (like her caring for Caylee)

imo that behavior is more about seeking approval and pleasing someone she looks up to so he'll tell her how she's so "pretty, gorgeous, sweet, lovable, adorable, kind and "What a GOOD girl she is" :shrug:

like maybe all the things that she never heard from Cindy?

It struck me as possibly her method of getting the validation and praise she craves.

too weird!


I think you've interpreted the situation accurately. Casey is a chameleon who played to many audiences. The one that matters, however, she's decided to sit out. IMO.

[rosejustrose]

Shoot they wouldn't have banned him if he described <Bleep Bleep>. Maybe he thought they would have but they would have forgiven anything for the celebrity, IMO.

ITA. I can think of a few ways to describe it and get the point across and not get banned, and I'm an old lady. No, that was not the way a 24 year old party boy would respond. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Oh, well, then. That's a source we can trust!

Good night! :seeya:

Good night, barskin!! Have a restful night:rose:

[rosejustrose]

I thought it did too, Granny.

Count me in.

[rosejustrose]

She looks like maybe 18 months or so. Didn't Lee say he hadn't spoken or seen Casey for a year. I wonder why not.


That one came up before and no, Lee never said that. He moved out of the family home in January 2007 but he made it seem as though he was there often for family gatherings and dinner. But, he's an Anthony, his lips were moving, it could be a lie. JMO.

[rosejustrose]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71620&page=28
This is the last page with the poster we are talking about.

Yup looks like whoever they were exited the internet highway. I have no doubt that the last comments made by those posters was the intent of the entire evening. What happened to Caylee happened because of Casey's new friends, not the friends she's had for years. Her old friends were good ole boys just looking to have a harmless good time with a little drinking, no drugs and nothing loose and carefree. Hmmm, why does that whole performance over on WS tonight disturb me so much? JMO.

[rosejustrose]

yep

At least the ones I have seen, I saw some bare bottoms and I don't think CW wants us to post a link. lol

Yeah, I saw those photos and I'm glad CW has the standards she does. It's bad enough they probably damaged my pysche, I'm afraid of what they have done to my opinion of young men.:D

[rosejustrose]

Right. That is what I was thinking... she looks younger in that pix than the recent pictures of Caylee.. I zoomed in on the picture to 400% and it LOOKS like her, but it's hard to tell because her head is tilted down.



Good point, it could be Lee's child.. I am leaning more towards it being Caylee though but I definitely could be wrong.

:shrug:


I didn't know Lee had a child.

[luvinlife]

Yeah, I saw those photos and I'm glad CW has the standards she does. It's bad enough they probably damaged my pysche, I'm afraid of what they have done to my opinion of young men.:D



I don't know what goes on in younger minds these days, but I will tell you I have a 19 yr old son and a almost 16 yr old daugther who both are online., I have to say the pictures some kids have out there are unreal.

Girls trying to look extra sexy, boys trying to look extra tough. Gang signs, drug stuff, comments and sayings that are awful, half naked pics, very very suggestive things. Lots of violence etc. I check on my kids pages (not my sons anymore) to see who is on there. Lots of kids just are not safe, some don't think any of it is a big deal. Some put this stuff on their sites to be cool, others seem very troubled.

The sex stuff that kids think is okay is far beyond what my friends and I thought was acceptable and I am not that old. It is a scary scary world.

[luvinlife]

I didn't know Lee had a child.



I don't think he does.

[rosejustrose]

I really do need to get on to my bed...I hope my posting out loud didn't drive anyone too crazy...I write out awful notes ike that to myself when i am figuring things out IRL...If you saw them you would think I was psycho. for certain!
I would just put ol exit13 in the "Interesting IF true" file for now...Something is not right with the whole of that Q&A


I did want to ask if anyone but me has had dreams about Casey's silver ring? I had posted some thoughts about 2 weeks ago regarding the possibility of DNA being found in her jewelry. Something I did combined with a dream I had then made me feel compelle to email the Sheriffs dept. and suggest they look into finding and testing her jewelry/.
That ring has been the "blue clogs" to me. It is every single nightmare I have and just jumps out at me when I see it in pictures.
I don't want everyone teasing me about being Psychic, but I have had my mind "fix" on things before that seemed inane and turned out to be important. Maybe just my subconcious at work when the things are from my own life...I'm suer there is an explanantion.:D
That ring is sticking with me though.
Night Gals and Guys!
JMO...especially anything I shouldn't have posted, LOL!

Actually, it's quite logical to suggest testing her jewelry, especially jewelry she wears on her hands. IMO, she killed Caylee either accidentally through an OD or deliberately by striking her, in either case there might be residual evidence on her jewelry. And, if she did dispose of Caylee's decomposing body by herself, without gloves, I doubt the twit had the presence of mind to remove her jewelry. Hopefully, when she was taken into custody and they releived her of this jewelry they tested it. Or, when they confiscated her belonging from the various places she stayed, they ran the same tests on her jewelry, especially rings and bracelets, anything that may have had contact with a dead Caylee. I think you subconsious was triggered by this very common sense, logic approach to forensics and I certainly don't think you're crazy for focusing on what could be a key piece of evidence. But, it's just my opinion.

Good night, sleep well:rose:

[rosejustrose]

I better call it a night, too. I'll have kids out of school all this week D/T Ike. See you swell cats later!! :seeya:

Night, kiddo. Have a good one!!!:seeya:

[rosejustrose]

I don't know what goes on in younger minds these days, but I will tell you I have a 19 yr old son and a almost 16 yr old daugther who both are online., I have to say the pictures some kids have out there are unreal.

Girls trying to look extra sexy, boys trying to look extra tough. Gang signs, drug stuff, comments and sayings that are awful, half naked pics, very very suggestive things. Lots of violence etc. I check on my kids pages (not my sons anymore) to see who is on there. Lots of kids just are not safe, some don't think any of it is a big deal. Some put this stuff on their sites to be cool, others seem very troubled.

The sex stuff that kids think is okay is far beyond what my friends and I thought was acceptable and I am not that old. It is a scary scary world.


Yes it is a scary world out there and I worry about the fate of a lot of our young people. There's a lot more pressure on them to be something they're not. It's definitely not the same world I grew up in. And, I notice that more and more young people have this sense of mommy and daddy owe me. I really don't get it. Probably never will. But, that's a conversation for another day, thankfully.

Well, it's been an emotional night for me. I had to say goodbye to my beloved Yankee Stadium where I spend many a summer day for many decades. It was a heartbreaking moment for me to see the Yanks leave the field for the very last time. I think I'll go and cry myself to sleep right now. It'll all be good in the morning!

Night, luvinlife!!! Sweet dreams:rose:

[luvinlife]

Yes it is a scary world out there and I worry about the fate of a lot of our young people. There's a lot more pressure on them to be something they're not. It's definitely not the same world I grew up in. And, I notice that more and more young people have this sense of mommy and daddy owe me. I really don't get it. Probably never will. But, that's a conversation for another day, thankfully.

Well, it's been an emotional night for me. I had to say goodbye to my beloved Yankee Stadium where I spend many a summer day for many decades. It was a heartbreaking moment for me to see the Yanks leave the field for the very last time. I think I'll go and cry myself to sleep right now. It'll all be good in the morning!

Night, luvinlife!!! Sweet dreams:rose:




Good night:seeya:


For you rose:rose:

[Lostgirl]

I don't know what goes on in younger minds these days, but I will tell you I have a 19 yr old son and a almost 16 yr old daugther who both are online., I have to say the pictures some kids have out there are unreal.

Girls trying to look extra sexy, boys trying to look extra tough. Gang signs, drug stuff, comments and sayings that are awful, half naked pics, very very suggestive things. Lots of violence etc. I check on my kids pages (not my sons anymore) to see who is on there. Lots of kids just are not safe, some don't think any of it is a big deal. Some put this stuff on their sites to be cool, others seem very troubled.

The sex stuff that kids think is okay is far beyond what my friends and I thought was acceptable and I am not that old. It is a scary scary world.

yes indeed, it's a very scary world and I'm glad i don't have any teenagers.

I don't think I'd be able to relax if they went out, too much drinking, too much drugs and way too much ANGER and RAGE in young people today and the scary thing is YOUR kid doesnt even have to do anything for some of these violent jerks to just attack for no reason!

I really don't know how parents of teenagers get through it nowadays, I'd be worried sick everytime they left the house :(

[Lostgirl]

I just finished watching the Dr. Phil Show

I haven't seen it

anything new or interesting snowjade?

[GrannyB]

Dr P threw in a ending comment about Post partum.

So Dr.P doesn't really know anymore than we do?

[GrannyB]

Nope. Just re hashed everything we already know.

I wish someone would get the Anthony's on their show and ask the really hard questions. This has gone on long enough.

[GrannyB]

Yes, we are all in agreement about long enough. I doubt that any talk show host will get any info out of any of them.

I agree. But we could see their reaction to the question and I think that would tell us a lot. I want to talk to Cindy. Too bad she is afraid to post here.

[crymeariver2006]

Dr P threw in a ending comment about Post partum.


Post partum? After almost three years? With the first child? Sudden onset? Living in the same house with a registered nurse?

Anybody got any stats on that?

:shrug:

[GrannyB]

Post partum? After almost three years? With the first child? Sudden onset? Living in the same house with a registered nurse?

Anybody got any stats on that?

:shrug:

Anthony's 100%

All others 0%

:D

[crymeariver2006]

It was commented how Cindy lost 25 pounds. (But Casey doesn't look any slimmer to me.) Nejame said he has NO IDEA why the protestors are angry at C & A . Imagine that? Everyone knows but him. :eek:

He'll get the :punch: from Cindy when she corrects him that it was 29 pounds.

[crymeariver2006]

Anthony's 100%

All others 0%

:D


You're probably more right than you realize.

:D

[GrannyB]

He'll get the :punch: from Cindy when she corrects him that it was 29 pounds.

He lied about her weight. He'll I bet he gets the hammer and the bat.

[n/t]

Post partum? After almost three years? With the first child? Sudden onset? Living in the same house with a registered nurse?

Anybody got any stats on that?

:shrug:

It would be very interesting to find out the stats.

How long does PP last?
Also, if not treated early on, can it develop into psychosis?
Is that what Cindy meant when she said Casey was a sociopath? Did she see symptoms of PP?

[GrannyB]

I agree. I think it's a little after the fact to suggest PP, but I think Dr p just threw it in as a closing remark, not to say that Casey had it. It would be interesting to find out how long PP can last.

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/postpartum_depression/article_em.htm

Postpartum depression is depression that occurs soon after having a baby. Some health professionals call it postpartum nonpsychotic depression.

This condition occurs in about 10-20% of women, usually within a few months of delivery.

Risk factors include previous major depression, psychosocial stress, inadequate social support, and previous premenstrual dysphoric disorder (see premenstrual syndrome for more information).

Symptoms include depressed mood, tearfulness, inability to enjoy pleasurable activities, trouble sleeping, fatigue, appetite problems, suicidal thoughts, feelings of inadequacy as a parent, and impaired concentration.

If you experience postpartum depression, you may worry about the baby's health and well-being. You may have negative thoughts about the baby and fears about harming the infant (although women who have these thoughts rarely act on them).

Postpartum depression interferes with a woman's ability to care for her baby.

When a woman with severe postpartum depression becomes suicidal, she may consider killing her infant and young children, not from anger, but from a desire not to abandon them.

Postpartum (puerperal) psychosis is the most serious postpartum disorder. It requires immediate treatment.

This condition is rare. A woman with this condition experiences psychotic symptoms within 3 weeks of giving birth. These include false beliefs (delusions), hallucinations (seeing or hearing things that are not there), or both.

[GrannyB]

From what the above article says I think 3 years would be way too long for it to develope. And Jesse didn't make her sound like she had a problem when Caylee was born or for a while after.

[Lostgirl]

Post partum? After almost three years? With the first child? Sudden onset? Living in the same house with a registered nurse?

Anybody got any stats on that?

:shrug:

ZERO to NONE is my guess!

that whole family is so full of it they're turning brown!

what happened to all of Cindys BS about Caylee would be home for her birthday? and all the other nonsense they've been spouting like fire hydrants!

I wish they'd just arrest that lying b____ and get it over with, charge her with murder, no more bonds, no more talk, all this crap about not talking because she's afraid it will endanger Caylee is VULGAR at this point!

I'm sure there's a special place in hell for Casey and she can't go there soon enough to suit me :flamemad:

I was watching youtubes earlier and reaquainting myself with some of the info in this case and it really bugged me that Cindy said she wanted to kick Casey out back in June but she was afraid Casey would take Caylee with her.... if she was seriously concerned for Caylees well being why didn't the Anthony's go to child protective services and at least TRY to do something, why let her leave, take the kid and then wait 30 days before checking up and making sure Caylee was okay?

I don't live in Florida and I'm not familiar with their laws but where I live if you contact CPS they send out a worker to check on things and if the worker has any reservations about leaving the child in the situation they will remove the child while they conduct an investigation.

:flamemad:

[jammies]

Thanks for all the geraldo updates. I zonked out before he came on.


New thread started for Monday morning.

[martha]

Oh my I hope that lawyer don;t use pp to try to get her off. I see so many things that could be wrong with her and it scares me that they may try to use some of the things that or talked about. good morning everyone, could not sleep so I am up early. have a very good day.:rose:

[n/t]

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/postpartum_depression/article_em.htm

Postpartum depression is depression that occurs soon after having a baby. Some health professionals call it postpartum nonpsychotic depression.

This condition occurs in about 10-20% of women, usually within a few months of delivery.

Risk factors include previous major depression, psychosocial stress, inadequate social support, and previous premenstrual dysphoric disorder (see premenstrual syndrome for more information).

Symptoms include depressed mood, tearfulness, inability to enjoy pleasurable activities, trouble sleeping, fatigue, appetite problems, suicidal thoughts, feelings of inadequacy as a parent, and impaired concentration.

If you experience postpartum depression, you may worry about the baby's health and well-being. You may have negative thoughts about the baby and fears about harming the infant (although women who have these thoughts rarely act on them).

Postpartum depression interferes with a woman's ability to care for her baby.

When a woman with severe postpartum depression becomes suicidal, she may consider killing her infant and young children, not from anger, but from a desire not to abandon them.

Postpartum (puerperal) psychosis is the most serious postpartum disorder. It requires immediate treatment.

This condition is rare. A woman with this condition experiences psychotic symptoms within 3 weeks of giving birth. These include false beliefs (delusions), hallucinations (seeing or hearing things that are not there), or both.


hmmmm....thanks for the link.

If the Anthonys weren't so stuck on blaming everyone else, they have a defense right there, imo.

Not only are they in denial about their daughter killing their granddaughter, they may also be in denial that Casey had/has some serious mental condition(s). IMO

I'd love to know the results of the psych evaluations. I would assume they wouldn't have released her on bail if she was a danger to herself or others.

[GrannyB]

The very last line here can maybe somehow apply? Such as Casey being delusional, people who don't exist?

But it says within 3 weeks of birth.

[GrannyB]

hmmmm....thanks for the link.

If the Anthonys weren't so stuck on blaming everyone else, they have a defense right there, imo.

Not only are they in denial about their daughter killing their granddaughter, they may also be in denial that Casey had/has some serious mental condition(s). IMO

I'd love to know the results of the psych evaluations. I would assume they wouldn't have released her on bail if she was a danger to herself or others.


Casey is/was three. I think she's too old for any of this to apply. If they try to use it seems to me both gps should be in trouble for not doing anything about it for so long. Especially with Cindy being a nurse.

[n/t]

But it says within 3 weeks of birth.


What happens if it's not treated though?

[GrannyB]

What happens if it's not treated though?

I imagine it gets worse and worse. I don't see how her friends wouldn't have seen it. Who knows with the Anthony's

[jammies]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12163426&posted=1#post12163426


Morning Thread..............yawwwwwwn

[n/t]

Casey is/was three. I think she's too old for any of this to apply. If they try to use it seems to me both gps should be in trouble for not doing anything about it for so long. Especially with Cindy being a nurse.

Not defending the grandparents here but I doubt they'd get in trouble. Look at Andrea Yates, IIRC, hubby didn't get in trouble and didn't he go on to remarry and have another child?

If Casey did suffer from PP, Cindy should've seen the signs but who knows with this family. I see so much denial that perhaps this is one other thing they denied.

Remember, Casey was pregnant and she and they denied she was pregnant.

[GrannyB]

I stll have Andrea Yates files, maybe reading them again will hold some answers. But she had 5 children & Casey only had one.

And she was being treated. Course I think her husband was just as strange as Cindy is.

[GrannyB]

Not defending the grandparents here but I doubt they'd get in trouble. Look at Andrea Yates, IIRC, hubby didn't get in trouble and didn't he go on to remarry and have another child?

If Casey did suffer from PP, Cindy should've seen the signs but who knows with this family. I see so much denial that perhaps this is one other thing they denied.

Remember, Casey was pregnant and she and they denied she was pregnant.

They may have denied it to relatives but I sure has heck don't believe they didn't know. Cindy has to know everything.

[Lostgirl]

I stll have Andrea Yates files, maybe reading them again will hold some answers. But she had 5 children & Casey only had one.

but hadn't she just had a baby?

I thought her doctors said it was triggered by the birth of her youngest child?

(If that wasn't the case, i stand corrected)

[GrannyB]

but hadn't she just had a baby?

I thought her doctors said it was triggered by the birth of her youngest child?

(If that wasn't the case, i stand corrected)


Andrea and Rusty were told not to have any more babies because of her mental state but Rusty wanted another and look what happened. He should be in jail along with Andrea.

Cindy and George belong in the same place.

[Lostgirl]

Yes, Casey is a party animal. Complete opposite of PPP

exactly... my sister developed PP after the birth of her first child and the last thing she wanted to do was party,,, we could barely get her to leave her bedroom and come out to the table to eat.

on the other hand...

Casey was the life of the party and couldn't get her butt to Fusion fast enough.

[martha]

yES IT WAS AS MUCH RANDY FAULT AS HERS when the doc told them she was sick with pp they should have done something to keep from having more babys. My goodness they already had 4. Lot of people can;t have 1. Now randy is remarried and has some more children where is that man;s heart. sorry o/t everyone come over to morning board. :rose:

[Lostgirl]

Andrea and Rusty were told not to have any more babies because of her mental state but Rusty wanted another and look what happened. He should be in jail along with Andrea.

Cindy and George belong in the same place.

oh okay, I didn't know that.. thanks for the info :)

[GrannyB]

exactly... my sister developed PP after the birth of her first child and the last thing she wanted to do was party,,, we could barely get her to leave her bedroom and come out to the table to eat.

on the other hand...

Casey was the life of the party and couldn't get her butt to Fusion fast enough.

Sure doesn't look like to depression to me.

[martha]

exactly... my sister developed PP after the birth of her first child and the last thing she wanted to do was party,,, we could barely get her to leave her bedroom and come out to the table to eat.

on the other hand...

Casey was the life of the party and couldn't get her butt to Fusion fast enough.ITA casey did not have pp and I will never believe c and g did not know she was preg. she is very small and you would have to know if she gained a pound. if she had much weight on her I could come nearer believing they did not know.jmho:rose:

[martha]

Sure doesn't look like to depression to me. ITA grannyb depressed people don;t even get out of the house and you can;t get them to do anything. casey does not look depressed in any way.jmho:rose:

[MyrDawn]

ITA casey did not have pp and I will never believe c and g did not know she was preg. she is very small and you would have to know if she gained a pound. if she had much weight on her I could come nearer believing they did not know.jmho:rose:

I'm a very small person, too. In fact, I'm smaller than Casey...I'm only 5'1". When I was pregnant, I lost weight instead of gaining it. Both times. Nobody could tell by looking at me I was pregnant either time until I was over 8 months along. Not everyone puts on a bunch of weight when they're pregnant.

[martha]

I am sorry I just always have seen people even when they lose weight have a small stom. or at least you can tell. I am sorry if I am wrong about this. everyone I have ever known you could tell jmho:rose:

[martha]

I learn something new everyday. I have been wrong a lot of times tho. so again I am sorry. need to watch what I post. jmho anyway. :rose:

[MyrDawn]

I am sorry I just always have seen people even when they lose weight have a small stom. or at least you can tell. I am sorry if I am wrong about this. everyone I have ever known you could tell jmho:rose:

I used to think it would show on anyone, too, until I got pregnant myself. I'd been a little chunky before, and there's something about being pregnant that causes my metabolism to run in reverse and I lose weight. I still looked a little chunky except it was the pregnancy...my arms and legs looked like I was anorexic, though. I only weighted 116 lbs. just before my 2nd one was born. My doctor told me that pregnancy was the perfect diet for me. But, it is unusual, so I'm not surprised you didn't know anyone like that before. No need to apoplogize. :D

I wonder if Casey could be the same way, since it does seem like a lot of people didn't know she was pregnant for so long.

[martha]

I used to think it would show on anyone, too, until I got pregnant myself. I'd been a little chunky before, and there's something about being pregnant that causes my metabolism to run in reverse and I lose weight. I still looked a little chunky except it was the pregnancy...my arms and legs looked like I was anorexic, though. I only weighted 116 lbs. just before my 2nd one was born. My doctor told me that pregnancy was the perfect diet for me. But, it is unusual, so I'm not surprised you didn't know anyone like that before. No need to apoplogize. :D

I wonder if Casey could be the same way, since it does seem like a lot of people didn't know she was pregnant for so long.casey could be that way also. I sure wish I had been that way but I gained 50lb which was bad on me. It was really hard to get off. I was only 120 lb at the time and 5-4 so you see you could really tell I was prg.love ya :rose: