Michelle Fisher Young, Sept. 21 to 25 [Archive]

5swab5

09-21-2008, 05:52 PM

Thank You Barbara,

I would like to address this too. Which seems to be a BIG point of contention on the last thread:

5swab5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celiarun
You posted lies. I don't agree with lies nor do I post them but I do report them.

What Lie?

It was reported MANY times on this board that Jason lost his job not too long after Michelle's murder. It was discounted as rumor at that time and people could give it their own weight. What is different now?

I am lost.

TIA

Swabby

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 05:55 PM

There have been two rumors back to back. One is that he lost his job. The other is that he is going on yet another vacation this week. I don't know that his mother is included but the rumor is that "his family" will be going to the beach. If I put those two rumors together, it sounds like he might be looking for another position.

annalyzer

09-21-2008, 06:03 PM

Time for a new thread.

The discussion when it was a discussion was about the bloody show prints on the pillow in the bedroom. Also sealant vs. stain.

Take it away.

I googled deck sealant and stains and they are almost interchangeable. As far as I could tell anyway. So sealant or stain either one, a shoe print was found in it.

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:05 PM

Something being "reported" on this board means squat. Without proof it's nothing more than rumors and before you use a link to another board...that isn't proof either.

As for what is different now...look back at posts made to June, Celia and other JII's. They get ripped apart anytime they post something they've heard and most times you are in the thick of it. So why should you, Wyn or any other JDI's be allowed to post what you "heard" without getting what you give?

"Getting what you give" isn't my issue, bookie. I'm fine with that. My issue is threatening to get someone banned for a "lie" without proving it's a "lie". That's dangerous, IMO.

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:06 PM

I googled deck sealant and stains and they are almost interchangeable. As far as I could tell anyway. So sealant or stain either one, a shoe print was found in it.

Thank you. It's nice to know we don't have to argue pages of THAT semantic.

Celiarun

09-21-2008, 06:06 PM

There is evidence that Jason could have commited this crime
There is no evidence that Meredith commited this crime
There is evidence that Jason sent Meredith over to the house that day
There is evidence that a hush puppy shoe was worn by someone at the time of the crime
There is evidence that Jason owned hush puppy shoes
There is evidence that Jason left his hotel room after he checked in
There is no evidence if/when he returned to his room

There is no evidence Jason "could have committed" this crime, plenty of evidence he didn't and couldn't, which is why the Judge refused to seal the 2/08 search warrants, imvho.

The only evidence that Jason sent Meredith over to the house to retrieve a document is that Meredith reportedly told LE this. We've seen nothing that verifies the truth of Meredith's statements to LE. We have seen a sealed search warrant and some of us have heard about still unreturned search warrants. ;)

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:06 PM

I googled deck sealant and stains and they are almost interchangeable. As far as I could tell anyway. So sealant or stain either one, a shoe print was found in it.

And I still think the time frame for the sealant/stain is important, with regard to pinning down the ownership of the shoe that made the imprint.

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:07 PM

Going on vacation soundslike someone is looking for a new job? *Reminder to self....never go on vacation*

How many weeks do you think one gets in a year with a new job? :shrug:

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:09 PM

There is no evidence Jason "could have committed" this crime, plenty of evidence he didn't and couldn't, which is why the Judge refused to seal the 2/08 search warrants, imvho.

The only evidence that Jason sent Meredith over to the house to retrieve a document is that Meredith reportedly told LE this. We've seen nothing that verifies the truth of Meredith's statements to LE. We have seen a sealed search warrant and some of us have heard about still unreturned search warrants. ;)

With the law changes in NC, I don't think there are any more unreturned SWs. As for the sealed SW, whatever it was about must have led to the Feb 08 warrants.

JMO

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:12 PM

<snipped>
The only evidence that Jason sent Meredith over to the house to retrieve a document is that Meredith reportedly told LE this.<snipped>

Phone records don't lie. IMO

5swab5

09-21-2008, 06:12 PM

There is no evidence Jason "could have committed" this crime, plenty of evidence he didn't and couldn't, which is why the Judge refused to seal the 2/08 search warrants, imvho.

The only evidence that Jason sent Meredith over to the house to retrieve a document is that Meredith reportedly told LE this. We've seen nothing that verifies the truth of Meredith's statements to LE. We have seen a sealed search warrant and some of us have heard about still unreturned search warrants. ;)

I'm SO sure that LE didn't analyze Meredith's phone activity that fateful day.

Laughable!

Jason called Meredith.

MOO

Swabby

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 06:13 PM

Celiarun

09-21-2008, 06:14 PM

"Getting what you give" isn't my issue, bookie. I'm fine with that. My issue is threatening to get someone banned for a "lie" without proving it's a "lie". That's dangerous, IMO.

:no:

I did not threaten to get anyone banned. I said I reported a libelous claim that I know to be a lie. The burden of proof isn't on me to prove it is a lie, it's on the poster who posted it as fact.

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:14 PM

I don't get anyone banned and I don't threaten it. I very seldom even report posts. It has to be really bad for me to report.

I've sat here and seen Swabs, Wyn, Janesdean and others bash and degrade JII's for posting something that they say they heard. The JDI's have done that from day one but when they did it we were supposed to accept it and not run the "inside sources" off.

I think we all know it started with RPD but there were others. And anyone who called them on what they posted were basically told to shut up and leave them alone. Too bad they don't extend the same courtesy to people who think Jason is innocent.

I don't get anyone banned either, bookie. I say what I have to say on the board. And I believe what makes sense to me, regardless of what is posted.

And I think it's too bad that there can't be a discussion of this case without posters threatening other posters.

JMO

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:16 PM

It depends on the company. On my last job, not this one, we got 1 week every 6 months that we worked 40 hours/week up to 6 weeks total vacation time. Management got more. Hubby's job got 2 weeks every year that he worked 40 hours/week.

So based on known vacations, he should be out of time. IMO That was my reference to putting the two rumors together.

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:17 PM

:no:

I did not threaten to get anyone banned. I said I reported a libelous claim that I know to be a lie. The burden of proof isn't on me to prove it is a lie, it's on the poster who posted it as fact.

And what else would be your purpose in reporting it?

Celiarun

09-21-2008, 06:18 PM

With the law changes in NC, I don't think there are any more unreturned SWs. As for the sealed SW, whatever it was about must have led to the Feb 08 warrants.

JMO

What law changes? A warrant was unreturned for nearly a year and was just returned early this summer and sealed. That alone is an indication there are more.

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:19 PM

Since when is, going to the beach for the weekend, considered a vacation. I`m guessing you don`t live near a beach.

Sorry. The rumor was week, not weekend.

I went to high school in Norfolk, VA. I'm plenty familiar with beach life.

Celiarun

09-21-2008, 06:20 PM

Since when is, going to the beach for the weekend, considered a vacation. I`m guessing you don`t live near a beach.

Also evidently doesn't understand the concept of weekend off.

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 06:20 PM

So based on known vacations, he should be out of time. IMO That was my reference to putting the two rumors together.
I would think in his line of work Jason would be off on week ends. Yes?

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 06:22 PM

Sorry. The rumor was week, not weekend.

I went to high school in Norfolk, VA. I'm plenty familiar with beach life.Nice beaches.

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:22 PM

I would think in his line of work Jason would be off on week ends. Yes?

Once again: The rumor was WEEK, not WEEKEND.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 06:23 PM

(snipped) They get ripped apart anytime they post something they've heard and most times you are in the thick of it. (snipped)

You are wrong about that. I learned my lesson, when I was transcribing the local news here and got in a boat load of trouble, because what WRAL or WTVD puts on their websites isn't exactly what actually goes across the airway. To the very best of my ability, I always try to include MOO, I believe, I think or some such nonsensical word to appease the JI²s.

I don't know if it is a fact that Jason lost his job, any more that I knew in Jan. of 07 that he was on the chopping block. But calling a poster an OUTRIGHT liar and trying to get them banned for a rumor that is rampant in N.C. just doesn't seem fair on ANY LEVEL to me.

MOO

Swabby

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:23 PM

Nice beaches.

Not as nice as NC :D

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:29 PM

The word that should be capitalized is RUMORED.

It was the other word that keeps getting misrepresented. You obviously noted the word rumor so that apparently wasn't necessary. :read:

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 06:30 PM

I love the way someone can post on a message board,I hear, and it becomes a fact for a 4 page discussion. LMBO

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:32 PM

I love the way someone can post on a message board,I hear, and it becomes a fact for a 4 page discussion. LMBO

:biggrin: I think it's the lack of news, HI_CYCLE.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 06:33 PM

There is no evidence Jason "could have committed" this crime, (snipped)

No "could have" about it.

BUT, there is PLENTY of evidence that LE knows that Jason Lynn Young DID brutally snuffed out Michelle & Rylan's lives.

Wanna' link?

NC search warrants.:biggrin: (Warning, it's a long read.)

MOO

Swabby

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 06:33 PM

:biggrin: I think it's the lack of news, HI_CYCLE.
I think you are right.:patriot:

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:33 PM

I noted the word rumored because NO ONE knows if he is/was going to the beach for a week or a weekend or even a month. It's an unfounded rumor.

And I put the word in there. That word wasn't being misrepresented so there was no need to capitalize it in order to draw attention to it.

Someone knows but they are not posting on this board and you can't link to what they know or have observed so I put it down as rumor.

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 06:34 PM

No "could have" about it.

BUT, there is PLENTY of evidence that LE knows that Jason Lynn Young DID brutally snuffed out Michelle & Rylan's lives.

Wanna' link?

NC search warrants.:biggrin: (Warning, it's a long read.)

MOO

SwabbyLots of reading and in the end....NOTTA!!!!!

Celiarun

09-21-2008, 06:38 PM

I noted the word rumored because NO ONE knows if he is/was going to the beach for a week or a weekend or even a month. It's an unfounded rumor.

Considering the tropical storm that is currently churning off NC's coast, it's a very unfounded rumor.

:shrug:

Celiarun

09-21-2008, 06:39 PM

Lots of reading and in the end....NOTTA!!!!!

thanks for reminding me why I appreciate the ignore feature so much. :lol:

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:40 PM

Considering the tropical storm that is currently churning off NC's coast, it's a very unfounded rumor.

:shrug:

Who said he went to a NC beach. Maybe he went back to PR. :shrug:

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:41 PM

Considering the tropical storm that is currently churning off NC's coast, it's a very unfounded rumor.

:shrug:

I was in Wilmington yesterday. Lovely weather.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 06:41 PM

Since when is, going to the beach for the weekend, considered a vacation. I`m guessing you don`t live near a beach.

I suggest you consult "MapQuest". Leaving Brevard for ANY beach involves a certain commitment.

MOO

Swabby

Poor Cassidy.....Geeze, IF they stop every 170 miles for the night, because they are tired, by the time they get there, it will be time to come back home, and she won't even get to see "the salty place"

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:42 PM

Someone that lives in Brevard said he went to the beach. Believe it, don't believe it. Who cares?

I don't. If Jason is innocent, I have no problem with him enjoying a beach getaway. If he's guilty, I hope he made some wonderful memories for Cassidy while he can.

JMO

Celiarun

09-21-2008, 06:46 PM

Who said he went to a NC beach. Maybe he went back to PR. :shrug:

Another storm brewing there, too.

These rumors you've posted, repeated, dragged all over the 'net never turn out to be true. Why is that? :rolleyes:

5swab5

09-21-2008, 06:48 PM

Lots of reading and in the end....NOTTA!!!!!

"Notta"?

Funny that they are all aimed DIRECTLY at Jason Lynn Young.

That's a LOTTA to me.

MOO

Swabby

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 06:49 PM

Yea right.

What was the occation ????

It was. A little overcast, but deliciously cool and breezy. Great weather for kites.

Part business, part pleasure. No storms.

And that concludes the Wilmington weather summary. LOL

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:49 PM

Uh oh, if he did Barbara, he's in trouble. The last time I listened to the weather the storm, that someone thinks is affecting us, was down there.

That makes sense that he wouldn't be going back to PR. It's been less than one year since he last went. Maybe he just needs to be out of town come Tuesday?

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:51 PM

Another storm brewing there, too.

These rumors you've posted, repeated, dragged all over the 'net never turn out to be true. Why is that? :rolleyes:

Most of them have turned out to be true. I guess we'll just have to wait and see on this one. ;)

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 06:58 PM

Unless it is reported in a reputable newspaper with pictures to prove it it's nothing more than a rumor started here. That's why the word rumored should be capitalized. Besides that it's just more fodder for the gossipmill. It doesn't prove that he murdered his wife.

You need to tell that to the supporters of Jason who continue to post rumors without even designating them as rumors. Capitalize it for them so that THEY get it. Thanks.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 07:00 PM

Unless it is reported in a reputable newspaper with pictures to prove it it's nothing more than a rumor started here. That's why the word rumored should be capitalized. Besides that it's just more fodder for the gossipmill. It doesn't prove that he murdered his wife.

OK, Fair enough.

It is a RUMOR that Bookie sets the standards and changes TOS for InSession's message boards.

MOO

Swabby

Cardinal

09-21-2008, 07:02 PM

Mimiof5 is that you ?????

ROTFL Not even.

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 07:03 PM

I suggest you consult "MapQuest". Leaving Brevard for ANY beach involves a certain commitment.

MOO

Swabby

Poor Cassidy.....Geeze, IF they stop every 170 miles for the night, because they are tired, by the time they get there, it will be time to come back home, and she won't even get to see "the salty place" I am going to guess again today that the salty beach does not take "your breath away".LOL

5swab5

09-21-2008, 07:05 PM

And now we see why it's so important that someone puts Jason on vacation. DOn't hold your breath on that indictment. The information in the warrant isn't new. Quite a few grand jury sessions have passed since the warrants were served.

And another one coming on this "Sweet, Sweet" Tuesday.

And another one,
And another one and
Another one.

However long it takes.

Even if FOREVER!

MOO

Swabby

Justice for Michelle & Rylan.

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 07:14 PM

Maybe you should lead by example? Like the other night when you chose to ignore the post of a JDI that started the drama and targeted a JII.

Seems like you do the same thing only in reverse. When was the last time you jumped on a JII for doing the same thing? I put rumor in my post. There is another that posts rumors but never designates them as such. When I see you chastise her for it, I will consider your advice. :seeya:

lonetraveler

09-21-2008, 07:16 PM

Considering the tropical storm that is currently churning off NC's coast, it's a very unfounded rumor.

:shrug:

--------------------------
Maybe I'm confused but I live on the coast of NC and I'm aware of just a tropical disturbance around Puerto Rico with a possibility of becoming more organized.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 07:17 PM

No changes. It has always been the standard that reliable claims include links. Anything posted without is considered rumor. Ask CW if you need it clarified.

That is not what you said.

You said that:

That's why the word rumored should be capitalized. (bold, mine)

I have never seen anything in TOS that says that I have to capitalize the word rumor.

All I am saying.

MOO

Swabby

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 07:20 PM

It's hurricane season in Puerto Rico right now, and I doubt Jason would be dumb enough to get caught in one of those storms. He'll wait until November like a smart guy to revisit his "honeymoon" memories with his mom.
So you think it is OK for Meredith to sponge off her mom,who is young single and healthy, but God forbid Jason except help from his family to give his and Michelle's daughter a sense of security by surrounding this little girl with love? I think some of you have life backwards. MOO

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 07:22 PM

Maybe I didn't word my post right but that's what I was saying to you. I didn't see you chastise the JDI that started the drama the other night. You passed it's post to hone in on someone (Kat) who doesn't agree with you. So until you lead by example maybe you shouldn't tell others how to post.

Maybe you missed my point. Until I see you do the same thing, you shouldn't tell me how to post.

And not that it matters, but the other night I had my 9 month old granddaughter and 7 year old grandson over. I was skimming and didn't read every post. I have no idea what post started the drama.

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 07:27 PM

Of course you didn't. :rolleyes:

Save your rolling eyes. I have no reason to make this up. I don't live for every post on this board like some do. Look back at my history if you don't believe it.

How about we go back to discussing the topic and you give up your quest to harrass me.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 07:30 PM

So you think it is OK for Meredith to sponge off her mom,who is young single and healthy, but God forbid Jason except help from his family to give his and Michelle's daughter a sense of security by surrounding this little girl with love? I think some of you have life backwards. MOO

I think that Jason thinks that he is entitled to anything and everything that his mom/step-father, and sisters are willing to dole out.

Why do you suppose that he is putting everyone in such a bind?

He and Michelle arranged for that LI policy...just in case.

Why hasn't he really "moved on" and made a life for Cassidy?

The money would afford him, with minimal effort to hire a nanny and create a "new" normalcy for Cassidy. Why not?

MOO

Swabby

IF he thinks he can grab that dough at the last minute for his legal defense, he's got another think coming. IMO.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 07:32 PM

That was a suggestion. See the word "should"? I didn't say it had to be capitalized. Nitpick away.

My apologies,

I read it as a directive.

Swabby

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 07:33 PM

I don't know where you got that from. I only said that Jason would not be dumb enough to vacation in hurricane season.

Is Jason's mom paying for his vacation?
OK, you said;" He'll wait until November like a smart guy to revisit his "honeymoon" memories with his mom."
I said"So you think it is OK for Meredith to sponge off her mom,who is young single and healthy, but God forbid Jason except help from his family to give his and Michelle's daughter a sense of security by surrounding this little girl with love? I think some of you have life backwards. MOO"
Maybe this will help.

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 07:47 PM

I think that Jason thinks that he is entitled to anything and everything that his mom/step-father, and sisters are willing to dole out.

Why do you suppose that he is putting everyone in such a bind?

He and Michelle arranged for that LI policy...just in case.

Why hasn't he really "moved on" and made a life for Cassidy?

The money would afford him, with minimal effort to hire a nanny and create a "new" normalcy for Cassidy. Why not?

MOO

Swabby

IF he thinks he can grab that dough at the last minute for his legal defense, he's got another think coming. IMO.Speaking from personal experience,I think it is probably just as much grandmother and grandfathers idea for Jason and Cassidy to live with them and not in a house with a nanny, who you pay, but really don`t know how that person will treat this child. I am sure Jason contributes more then his share to house hold expenses,I know my son does.I refuse to allow my granddaughter to go to day care at 2 1/2 when she has family to take care of her. She is a joy to our lives and even though her mother is alive and well,teaching other parents children, she has given up all parental rights to keep from paying child support. A young child needs to be surrounded with family and love,NOT in a big house with a nanny. So unless you have walked in the shoes where this is a real situation,I would really keep your kind of opinions of how another father should live private. Just a suggestion,nothing personnel.Really..

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 07:52 PM

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 07:57 PM

Nothing says loving, like waking up to a smiling, chattering child whose eyes sparkle like the stars at night.Freely giving out bigs hugs and kisses. PRICELESS....:)

5swab5

09-21-2008, 07:57 PM

Yes, I did. I understood that Jason chose not to attend the memorial for Michelle because he was revisiting his honeymoon memories. I think it's odd that that is best achieved with his mom, but then I also think it's odd that a man in his mid-thirties can't seem to establish independent living.

More than "odd" IMO, especially with that million dollar kicker looming in the background.

Truth be known, I think that after Jason's father died, Jason was made man of the house WAY too early. He had 3 women at his beck and call.

Married life was probably not exactly what he dreamed of.

Kid on the way, gotta' go house & furniture shopping, etc. The sheer drudgery of day-to-day living with normal responsibilities doesn't seem to be his forte. Reference the FACT, that he is now back at home and having someone else cater to him & Cassidy 24/7/365.

MOO

Swabby

Having said all of the above, it still BLOWS my mind that he takes mommie on vacation with him. Like that gives some sort of legitimacy to the whole process. He's a mamma's boy, pure and simple, all the way through. IMO

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 08:03 PM

Kid on the way, gotta' go house & furniture shopping, etc. The sheer drudgery of day-to-day living with normal responsibilities doesn't seem to be his forte. Reference the FACT, that he is now back at home and having someone else cater to him & Cassidy 24/7/365.

MOO

Swabby
Sad you feel this kind of life is a "drudgery", says a lot about you.MOO

Jules2

09-21-2008, 08:06 PM

Nothing says loving, like waking up to a smiling, chattering child whose eyes sparkle like the stars at night.Freely giving out bigs hugs and kisses. PRICELESS....:)

Even though your post has absolutely nothing to do with this case, I do agree with you. What is tragic, however, is the fact that Michelle was robbed of such priceless moments.

Let us remember Michelle, and all the priceless moments she won't be a part of.....all because of one monster, who in my opinion, doesn't deserve a single moment on this earth let alone a priceless one.

IMO

For Michelle and Rylan
:rose:

annalyzer

09-21-2008, 08:09 PM

5swab5

09-21-2008, 08:11 PM

OK, you said;" He'll wait until November like a smart guy to revisit his "honeymoon" memories with his mom."
I said"So you think it is OK for Meredith to sponge off her mom,who is young single and healthy, but God forbid Jason except help from his family to give his and Michelle's daughter a sense of security by surrounding this little girl with love? I think some of you have life backwards. MOO"
Maybe this will help.

Since when is it considered "sponging" to take care of a retirement/ investment property for either of your parents? Color me guilty.

Securityfor Cassidy? That's laughable. Her OWN grandmother. Michelle's MOM has been reduced to a "once a year visit" at Cassidy's DayCare.

THAT is a family I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

MOO

Swabby

Maybe this will advert another tragedy.

Keep twisting and shouting for Jason, I hear he is looking. He might be the future ex-husband of someone you know yet.

BEWARE!

JHP

09-21-2008, 08:13 PM

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 08:15 PM

Even though your post has absolutely nothing to do with this case, I do agree with you. What is tragic, however, is the fact that Michelle was robbed of such priceless moments.

Let us remember Michelle, and all the priceless moments she won't be a part of.....all because of one monster, who in my opinion, doesn't deserve a single moment on this earth let alone a priceless one.

IMO

For Michelle and Rylan
:rose:
And... I agree with you except I do NOT believe Jason Young is the monster that took Michelle away from her daughter and husband. That is where we differ.
I want the same as you want,the monster who took this young mother and wife away from her family needs to hang.. I am just as passionate about Jason`s innocents as you are his guilt.

:rose: For Jason and Cassidy

5swab5

09-21-2008, 08:19 PM

Speaking from personal experience,I think it is probably just as much grandmother and grandfathers idea for Jason and Cassidy to live with them and not in a house with a nanny, who you pay, but really don`t know how that person will treat this child. I am sure Jason contributes more then his share to house hold expenses,I know my son does.I refuse to allow my granddaughter to go to day care at 2 1/2 when she has family to take care of her. She is a joy to our lives and even though her mother is alive and well,teaching other parents children, she has given up all parental rights to keep from paying child support. A young child needs to be surrounded with family and love,NOT in a big house with a nanny. So unless you have walked in the shoes where this is a real situation,I would really keep your kind of opinions of how another father should live private. Just a suggestion,nothing personnel.Really..

SO, since it is OK with you that your son dumps his responsibilities on you, I am supposed to give Jason a free pass for inconveniencing his entire family?

Unless your son ALSO is leaving a cool million on the table and it certainly doesn't sound like it.

Apples and Oranges, IMO.

Swabby

MOO

Nothing personal, either.;)

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 08:22 PM

Since when is it considered "sponging" to take care of a retirement/ investment property for either of your parents? Color me guilty.

Securityfor Cassidy? That's laughable. Her OWN grandmother. Michelle's MOM has been reduced to a "once a year visit" at Cassidy's DayCare.

THAT is a family I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

MOO

Swabby

Maybe this will advert another tragedy.

Keep twisting and shouting for Jason, I hear he is looking. He might be the future ex-husband of someone you know yet.

BEWARE!So LF is retired,why hasn`t she move to Raleigh where she might be able to see her granddaughter more often. Why does it have to be Jason`s fault if he and LF have a broken relationship. Maybe he does NOT WANT his daughter around Auntie and her friends and life style. Why did her own sister, Michelle,kick her out of her home and put her daughter in a daycare? Neither of us know..

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 08:23 PM

SO, since it is OK with you that your son dumps his responsibilities on you, I am supposed to give Jason a free pass for inconveniencing his entire family?

Unless your son ALSO is leaving a cool million on the table and it certainly doesn't sound like it.

Apples and Oranges, IMO.

Swabby

MOO

Nothing personal, either.;)
You don`t have a clue about family and love. I pity you.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 08:24 PM

Nothing says loving, like waking up to a smiling, chattering child whose eyes sparkle like the stars at night.Freely giving out bigs hugs and kisses. PRICELESS....:)

Yep,

TOO bad that Linda Fisher and Meredith Fisher have been summarily RAPED of that opportunity!

MOO

Swabby

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 08:27 PM

Yep,

TOO bad that Linda Fisher and Meredith Fisher have been summarily RAPED of that opportunity!

MOO

Swabby
I wonder why??? Has to be a reason.:shrug:

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 08:31 PM

Huh ??????
Only your 2nd post, you`ll get it,maybe.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 08:32 PM

So LF is retired,why hasn`t she move to Raleigh where she might be able to see her granddaughter more often. Why does it have to be Jason`s fault if he and LF have a broken relationship. Maybe he does NOT WANT his daughter around Auntie and her friends and life style. Why did her own sister, Michelle,kick her out of her home and put her daughter in a daycare? Neither of us know..

WHAT KIND OF "kicked out"?

Cassidy was of the age when she needed to be getting out and about.

Meredith helped out, until it was no longer needed, pure and simple.

MOO

Swabby

Mayhaps, Michelle THOUGHT that Jason would finally pick up some of the slack. Between jobs and all. EVER think about that?

HI_CYCLE

09-21-2008, 08:36 PM

WHAT KIND OF "kicked out"?

Cassidy was of the age when she needed to be getting out and about.

Meredith helped out, until it was no longer needed, pure and simple.

MOO

Swabby

Mayhaps, Michelle THOUGHT that Jason would finally pick up some of the slack. Between jobs and all. EVER think about that?
SURE!!!!In your mind.

5swab5

09-21-2008, 08:45 PM

So LF is retired,why hasn`t she move to Raleigh where she might be able to see her granddaughter more often. Why does it have to be Jason`s fault if he and LF have a broken relationship. Maybe he does NOT WANT his daughter around Auntie and her friends and life style. Why did her own sister, Michelle,kick her out of her home and put her daughter in a daycare? Neither of us know..

Nobody says that it has to be Jason's fault. Nobody ever has.

Someone could have told Jason to NEVER look back...after he learned of Michelle & Rylan's murders.

Someone could have told Jason to avoid Michelle's friends.

Someone could have told Jason to not attend ANY of the celebrations of Michelle's life.

Someone could have told Jason to restrict Cassidy's interaction with Michelle's mother and sister.

Someone could have told him NOT to reach for the LI policy.

WHO do you suppose that EVIL Someone is?

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

09-21-2008, 08:49 PM

SURE!!!!In your mind.

You are right, of course. I think she knew him pretty good.

I seriously doubt that Michelle ever expected a thing out of Jason.

Expect nothing, that way you won't be disappointed.

Bet she didn't see Michelle Money coming tho.

MOO

Swabby

annalyzer

09-21-2008, 08:54 PM

Whoever volunteered to link the sw I asked kindly for them to do so.

Barbara2

09-21-2008, 09:01 PM

Whoever volunteered to link the sw I asked kindly for them to do so.

Check here, in the blue column to the right under "documents":

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3365337/

annalyzer

09-21-2008, 09:04 PM

Check here, in the blue column to the right under "documents":

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3365337/

Thank you.

Jules2

09-21-2008, 09:15 PM

SURE!!!!In your mind.

This getting "kicked out" rubbish is based on a bunch of rumors posted long ago with no substantiating facts to back it up. Many parents of infants will have a family member babysit until the child is older and can be placed in a reputable day care. Many parents worry about their babies picking up every little germ at those day cares. Many day cares don't take infants. Perhaps Meredith was only asked to provide care for Cassidy until she was older or until a reputable daycare was found. One in which Michelle was comfortable with. Perhaps Meredith made an agreement to watch her for a short period of time. Just because she stopped watching her doesn't mean she got the boot.

These types of statements should not be posted as fact. Can you supply proof that Meredith was "let go" of her duties other than due to a mutual agreement? Because if not, then it is all hearsay gossip and rumors. IMO

5swab5

09-21-2008, 09:37 PM

This getting "kicked out" rubbish is based on a bunch of rumors posted long ago with no substantiating facts to back it up. Many parents of infants will have a family member babysit until the child is older and can be placed in a reputable day care. Many parents worry about their babies picking up every little germ at those day cares. Many day cares don't take infants. Perhaps Meredith was only asked to provide care for Cassidy until she was older or until a reputable daycare was found. One in which Michelle was comfortable with. Perhaps Meredith made an agreement to watch her for a short period of time. Just because she stopped watching her doesn't mean she got the boot.

These types of statements should not be posted as fact. Can you supply proof that Meredith was "let go" of her duties other than due to a mutual agreement? Because if not, then it is all hearsay gossip and rumors. IMO

You hit that nail on the head!

Parents have to be diligent.

I was called out to expand a sewer line for one of the highest accredited (and expensive) DayCares in this area.

I was actually frightened when I walked inside, I have NEVER seen so much drizzling from kid's noses. It was on them, on the floor, on their arms. It was everywhere! I booked straight out!

Little did all the parents know, that there was ZERO insulation underneath the retrofitted building.

Kids are safer at home, until it is absolutely dictated that they be removed...

MOO

Swabby

Kat4Eagles

09-21-2008, 11:34 PM

Started with RPD ?
Maybe so, but he spoke the truth.

Jason Lynn Young killed Michelle and her baby boy.

Yes, this is only MY humble opinion.

:rolleyes:

Since you are RPD.

:rolleyes:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-21-2008, 11:41 PM

It really doesn't matter. It doesn't prove he murdered his wife and he is free to come and go as he pleases. It also doesn't prove he doesn't have a job.

You know, Bookie, if I didn't know better, I would swear there are people out there that are so jealous and obsessed with what Jason does and doesn't do, it's almost scary.

No, wait, I am wrong, it is scary,

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-21-2008, 11:44 PM

It really doesn't matter. It doesn't prove he murdered his wife and he is free to come and go as he pleases. It also doesn't prove he doesn't have a job.

Are they mad that Jason is free to move around the country.?

:confused:

Kat

Jules2

09-21-2008, 11:53 PM

Are they mad that Jason is free to move around the country.?

:confused:

Kat

Does it anger you that Michelle's killer is still able to walk the streets as free as can be? I would hope so.

I, along with several other posters on this board, happen to believe that Jason is responsible for his wife's death. It is an opinion that I/we have a right to have whether you like it or not.

So, yes.....It angers me a great deal that Jason is allowed to move around the country freely.

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:01 AM

More than "odd" IMO, especially with that million dollar kicker looming in the background.

Truth be known, I think that after Jason's father died, Jason was made man of the house WAY too early. He had 3 women at his beck and call.

Married life was probably not exactly what he dreamed of.

Kid on the way, gotta' go house & furniture shopping, etc. The sheer drudgery of day-to-day living with normal responsibilities doesn't seem to be his forte. Reference the FACT, that he is now back at home and having someone else cater to him & Cassidy 24/7/365.

MOO

Swabby

Having said all of the above, it still BLOWS my mind that he takes mommie on vacation with him. Like that gives some sort of legitimacy to the whole process. He's a mamma's boy, pure and simple, all the way through. IMO

Okay, with all due respect, let's back up a little.

It is posts like these that just blow me away too.

None of you know Jason , but you got him all figured out and annalyzed.

You read some psych book, and Jason turns into one of the "erasers"
Men who no longer need or want their wives, so they rub them out.

What are your credentials for such a judgement?, and I don't mean just you, Swabby.

But how do you reach these conclusions?

How do you know that?

There is some pretty extra wild posting with no reference or substance, going on this weekend.

If you post it enough , does it make true?

:confused:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:07 AM

And at the moment Mrs. Fisher is also being robbed of priceless moments. Very sad IMO and selfish.

With all due respect to Mr. Alan Fisher, but he was not denied visits and communication with C before he passed, was he?

Why is that?

And, once again, if you think LF is being unfairly denied, they have a court system that deals with such.

Why, she has not used it, is beyond me.

:confused:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:13 AM

Does it anger you that Michelle's killer is still able to walk the streets as free as can be? I would hope so.

I, along with several other posters on this board, happen to believe that Jason is responsible for his wife's death. It is an opinion that I/we have a right to have whether you like it or not.

So, yes.....It angers me a great deal that Jason is allowed to move around the country freely.

Any killer that walks free shouldn't be allowed to, but they have to be caught and brought to justice..

And, how about some proof first?

Real proof.

Not some old shoes that were 2 sizes 2 small , that Jason saved for years so he could murder Michelle. :rolleyes:

How about that hair found on Michelle's hand?

Think maybe she was able to pull a strand of the killer's hair.?

:confused:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:17 AM

Yep,

TOO bad that Linda Fisher and Meredith Fisher have been summarily RAPED of that opportunity!

MOO

Swabby

Not only is that harsh, but you chose a strange way to describe it.

Again:
Why are they not fighting it??

:confused:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:43 AM

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:46 AM

This getting "kicked out" rubbish is based on a bunch of rumors posted long ago with no substantiating facts to back it up. Many parents of infants will have a family member babysit until the child is older and can be placed in a reputable day care. Many parents worry about their babies picking up every little germ at those day cares. Many day cares don't take infants. Perhaps Meredith was only asked to provide care for Cassidy until she was older or until a reputable daycare was found. One in which Michelle was comfortable with. Perhaps Meredith made an agreement to watch her for a short period of time. Just because she stopped watching her doesn't mean she got the boot.

These types of statements should not be posted as fact. Can you supply proof that Meredith was "let go" of her duties other than due to a mutual agreement? Because if not, then it is all hearsay gossip and rumors. IMO

Why did she move to NC, unless it was to be near Michelle and Jason and C?

Still seems strange she left NY to move there, care for C, then end up working in a restaurant..which she could have done back home if that is the career choice she wanted.

:confused:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 10:07 AM

Perhaps Michelle and Meredith were sisters that were best friends, and they wanted to live close to each other. It may seem strange to you, but I suspect it's quite normal in most families.

Statistically, most people don't focus on a career until the age of 27. From the age of 18 - 27, people try a number of career paths. I don't think Meredith is doing anything different than the majority.

I really have to wonder what you do considering all the remarks you make about people that work in the service industry, but it's irrelevant.

Children need to be cared for while their parents work, and they need normal day to day socialization with their peers. Play school and kindergarten offer excellent opportunities for young children to gain those valuable social skills. That is the obvious reason why Cassidy was, and continues to be, in those programs.

I think there might be something more to the story, but it can wait.

:)

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 10:31 AM

"Notta"?

Funny that they are all aimed DIRECTLY at Jason Lynn Young.

That's a LOTTA to me.

MOO

Swabby

But, they have not produced any results and the case drags on, and on, and on.....

:confused:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 10:34 AM

It really doesn't matter. It doesn't prove he murdered his wife and he is free to come and go as he pleases. It also doesn't prove he doesn't have a job.

Well, since yesterday was the last official day of summer, I hope everyone had a good time.

Of course, you know, we can now cross off another prediction of Jason being arrested by the end of the summer.

:cough:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 10:41 AM

I think Meredith is lucky to have a young, healthy mom, and I'm sure her mom appreciates the compliment.

Jason is heading towards 40 years old, and he's still living with his mom, her husband, and Michelle's daughter. That's got to be a weird situation, no matter how anyone tries to justify it. Plenty of single mothers with far fewer resources and abilities manage just fine without moving in with their retired parents. There is no excuse for Jason not setting up a normal home life for Cassidy.

If Jason is not capable of establishing a sense of security for himself and his daughter, that's a whole other problem.

Whoa, since when is L F young?

And, why did M F move away from her, miles and states away, if they were all that close.?

Another "late bloomer", like Jason was rumored to be?

And, since when is Jason going to be 40?

I know the case seems to be going on 4ever, but I didn't think that much time has passed.

:lol:

Kat

JHP

09-22-2008, 10:45 AM

But, they have not produced any results and the case drags on, and on, and on.....

:confused:

Kat

Yes, I think it's frustrating for all of us. However lets look at how there was an arrest for a murder that happened in 1975 just recently. It shows that LE keep on looking.

Maybe it will take longer than we think it should, But we don't know all the facts. This case has been extremly close to the vest. I hope for Cassidy's sake they will arrest the person who stole her Mom
away from her soon.

JMO

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 10:47 AM

And... I agree with you except I do NOT believe Jason Young is the monster that took Michelle away from her daughter and husband. That is where we differ.
I want the same as you want,the monster who took this young mother and wife away from her family needs to hang.. I am just as passionate about Jason`s innocents as you are his guilt.

:rose: For Jason and Cassidy

Totally agree, Hi C..
^5
Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 10:52 AM

This getting "kicked out" rubbish is based on a bunch of rumors posted long ago with no substantiating facts to back it up. Many parents of infants will have a family member babysit until the child is older and can be placed in a reputable day care. Many parents worry about their babies picking up every little germ at those day cares. Many day cares don't take infants. Perhaps Meredith was only asked to provide care for Cassidy until she was older or until a reputable daycare was found. One in which Michelle was comfortable with. Perhaps Meredith made an agreement to watch her for a short period of time. Just because she stopped watching her doesn't mean she got the boot.

These types of statements should not be posted as fact. Can you supply proof that Meredith was "let go" of her duties other than due to a mutual agreement? Because if not, then it is all hearsay gossip and
rumors. IMO

So then, Jules, these stories about Jason, fact, rumor or gossip, are all allowed to fly here and not be doubted or questioned ?

You will forgive some of us, if we simply don't play back.

Thanxxxx.

:)
Kat

PS. Jason did not get arrested by the end of the summer.
FACT.
Therefore, it defies the statement of the one who promised
and predicted it to be........and makes it....
UNTRUE.

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 10:55 AM

It WILL be resolved.

I am confident.

Your confidence is not very telling or reassuring.
I don't think that and 7 points will get you into the end zone.

Kat

JHP

09-22-2008, 10:57 AM

It WILL be resolved.

I am confident.

I hope so, Soon.

:rose: For all the people who loved Michelle.

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 10:59 AM

Yes, I think it's frustrating for all of us. However lets look at how there was an arrest for a murder that happened in 1975 just recently. It shows that LE keep on looking.

Maybe it will take longer than we think it should, But we don't know all the facts. This case has been extremly close to the vest. I hope for Cassidy's sake they will arrest the person who stole her Mom
away from her soon.

JMO

So, what is it now that L E is looking for?

They have the body, the crime scene, evidence, what else?

:confused:

Oh, and they have had almost 2 years.

Kat

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 11:19 AM

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=99908881

"......the incarnation of the postmodern man; obsessed with himself, turned towards pleasure, autonomous and narcissistic...."

I assume he is describing himself.
This is the friend that was said to have attended Michelle`s funeral with Meredith. He was living in Cary at the time of Michelle`s murder. I wonder if he is wearing HP shoes. Maybe the super duper photographer who did such a swell job on still photo`s can "zoom in" on them and let us know. I don`t know what his nick name is now but I am sure he will read my challenge.

dkny

09-22-2008, 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=Kat4Eagles;12162957]Why did she move to NC, unless it was to be near Michelle and Jason and C?

Still seems strange she left NY to move there, care for C, then end up working in a restaurant..which she could have done back home if that is the career choice she wanted.

:confused:

Kat[/QUOTE

To finish her education which is cheaper in NC than NY and working in the service industry allows the flexible schedule to attend school and work and make a living, I am sure being CY's nanny did not pay as much as the service industry nor the flexibility she needed. JMHO

JHP

09-22-2008, 11:40 AM

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 11:43 AM

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 11:47 AM

Did you notice how the pictures of him and MF at the funeral disappeared off the web sites? Never to be seen again. I read her messages to him 4 times she used the word random she even capitalized it once. Do you thing she was sending a message? Keep your mouth shut LE knows it wasn't random.
I personally believe she was poking fun at LE with her remarks.

JHP

09-22-2008, 11:47 AM

Did you notice how the pictures of him and MF at the funeral disappeared off the web sites? Never to be seen again. I read her messages to him 4 times she used the word random she even capitalized it once. Do you thing she was sending a message? Keep your mouth shut LE knows it wasn't random.

Yes. you are right LE knows it wasn't random. I think they announced that right away.

I find some of the posters here to be quite RANDOM in their thoughts however.

JMO

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 11:50 AM

I'm not mixed up. I have read the Valentine's Day warrants, and they very clearly indicate who was behind the murder.
Then back to the old question, why hasn`t been arrested? Jason L. Young had NOTHING 2 do with his wife`s murder IMO.

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 11:54 AM

Zed Wrote:Jason is over 30, meaning he's pushing 40, and apparently incapable of independent living.
Why does it bother the JDI`s so much where Jason and Cassidy live? It is NONE of your business or mine. That is a FACT.

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 11:57 AM

Its crystal clear who LE is focusing on.
If you are suggesting Jason and I believe you are,that may be the reason there has been NO a
arrest. Whacha think?:shrug:

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 11:58 AM

There have been some horrifying remarks posted about Michelle and her family, usually followed by some ridiculing, or cheerful, emoticon. This is a very sad situation, where the murderer of a pregnant mother walks free while people make excuses for all information about the most likely suspect.

Not true.......:no:

Michelle has never been dis~respected here, it is only the JDI's who question or ridicule her choice in marrying Jason..and do not respect the decision that she made to marry him not once, but twice.!!!!

Michelle was very smart, she does not need her choices second guessed by strangers on a Message Board.

Until someone is charged with her murder, that is just the way it goes.

Kat

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 12:07 PM

Old question is right. It's an old question with a simple answer. Spousal homicides are amongst the most difficult to prove because the suspect has an alternate explanation for their DNA at the scene. In this case, however, I think Jason's DNA on the bloody wall will be difficult to explain.

Many people that want Jason to be innocent present the argument that a delay in arrest means the suspect is innocent. There's no logic to that argument.A delay??? Almost 2 years is much more then a " delay" IMO.

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:15 PM

Yes. you are right LE knows it wasn't random. I think they announced that right away.

I find some of the posters here to be quite RANDOM in their thoughts however.

JMO

Let's see..

1) The garage door into the home was found unlocked or opened, and rumored that was normal for J & M.

2) G A friend rumor that she felt they were being watched,

( Sidebar: You do know that puts the rumor to rest that it was Jason who was watching them as he arrived at the hotel close to 11pm, so he had to leave Raleigh near 8pm, which we can pin down closer to 7:30 pm with the receipt of gas close to home:)

3) There had been a rumor that there were problems in the past from noises coming from the woods, that was reported by J & M.

4) Anyone driving by the home could see Jason's car was gone.
Michelle's car and boat were kept in the garage, leaving Jason's vehicle visible.

5) Problems in the family, her employment, or other.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:22 PM

I'm not mixed up. I have read the Valentine's Day warrants, and they very clearly indicate who was behind the murder.

Those were back in Feb, over 7 months ago.

Think they produced a bombshell?, that they decided to sit on for all this time?

:rolleyes:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:23 PM

Perhaps you need to read more murder trial history to better understand the long process involved in prosecuting criminals.

Nahhhhhh, according to a poster the other day, Jason is now in the same category as a serial killer.

:rolleyes:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:30 PM

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:33 PM

Its crystal clear who LE is focusing on.

crystal clear=mud.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 12:38 PM

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 12:39 PM

You are welcome to think it's quite okay for men in their thirties to be living with their parents. In fact, I think you mentioned yesterday that you have a son in that situation. Personally, I think adults, with or without children, should have established a life of their own; one that is independent of their parents, by their early 20s. Will you think it's okay when the men are 40, or 50? At what age do you think an adult man should attain independent living?
I am sure both Jason and my son would love to be living "independently" and both were before their lives were changed.Both Jason and my son have chosen to put their daughters before what they WANT. That is called love and good parenting. So as I said last night, unless you have experienced what they have,you don`t have a clue what it`s all about.My son has total custody of his daughter that cost him thousands of dollars and so I would suggest to you that for the courts to remove a daughter from her natural mother,who teaches other parents children,he must have proved to the courts he was a responsible MAN and would make good choices, putting his daughter and her needs before his own. You will never get it and it makes NO difference to me,you obviously can not see pass your nose.MOO

fourier

09-22-2008, 12:46 PM

I am sure both Jason and my son would love to be living "independently" and both were before their lives were changed.Both Jason and my son have chosen to put their daughters before what they WANT. That is called love and good parenting. So as I said last night, unless you have experienced what they have,you don`t have a clue what it`s all about.My son has total custody of his daughter that cost him thousands of dollars and so I would suggest to you that for the courts to remove a daughter from her natural mother,who teaches other parents children,he must have proved to the courts he was a responsible MAN and would make good choices, putting his daughter and her needs before his own. You will never get it and it makes NO difference to me,you obviously can not see pass your nose.MOO

Thanks for explaining your bias, HI_CYCLE.

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 12:48 PM

Thanks for explaining your bias, HI_CYCLE.
Bias?? How about understanding it the innocent children not the adult.:patriot:

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 12:52 PM

I try to give those posters the benefit of the doubt. Obviously, this is a first case for most of them.That is a funny statement. Just goes to show you know NOTHING about this poster.:D

dkny

09-22-2008, 12:56 PM

[QUOTE=dkny;12164480]

Huh?, finish her education , for what?
A degree for which she never used?

After stating on her website, she just barely made it out of college?

Look at the contrast with Michelle, who aced everything that came her way.

very :confused:

Kat

Her major is not one you stop @ a BA, you really need to obtain a Masters or Ph. D to be able to make any kind of decent $, IMO. If she graduated college she can do grad school w/her major it is less than half the time, w/full schedule for a masters. JMHO. I do not compare people, everyone is different. JY came MY's way, he was no ACE. You are confused because you only see what you want too, anyone that questions "your view" gets hopped on. You want to compare MY and MF every chance you get, as w/this message board everyone is different. IMO

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 01:00 PM

Why would you assume he is describing himself? Perhaps he was putting that out there should *someone* read it. Or, perhaps he liked the quote. A quote on a page like that means nothing. And, why would someone ever describe themselves like that? It certainly isn't flattering.
Perhaps you can ask him.."A quote on a page like that means nothing",you are kidding are you not?

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:09 PM

Bias?? How about understanding it the innocent children not the adult.:patriot:

I don't think they are getting the difference between Jason and MF here.

Jason = has a child.

MF=none.

Why does MF need someone to support her, isn't she pushing 30?

:confused:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=Kat4Eagles;12164786]

Her major is not one you stop @ a BA, you really need to obtain a Masters or Ph. D to be able to make any kind of decent $, IMO. If she graduated college she can do grad school w/her major it is less than half the time, w/full schedule for a masters. JMHO. I do not compare people, everyone is different. JY came MY's way, he was no ACE. You are confused because you only see what you want too, anyone that questions "your view" gets hopped on. You want to compare MY and MF every chance you get, as w/this message board everyone is different. IMO

Maybe someday we will find out more about her, huh?

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:13 PM

Wait for what, releasing the information to the public? Yes, I do think they were significant enough to keep private, and apparently the police think so too.

But not enough for an indictment.

But not enough for an arrest.

But not enough for a impending trial.

But not enough for a conviction.

Just for significance.

Gotcha!!

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=Kat4Eagles;12164786]

You're apparently not familiar with the requirements for acceptance to grad school. A GPA of 3.2 is a minimum for most graduate programs, and several have a much higher requirement. To suggest that Meredith barely made it out of college is ludicrous given her acceptance to a graduate studies program.

Furthermore, many people that complete undergraduate degrees have no intention of working with that degree, but fully intend to take a year or two off, and then pursue a graduate degree. Particularly in the field of psychology, a graduate degree makes a huge difference in career opportunities.

You're welcome for the education about post secondary career paths. Please stop criticizing someone that obviously has career ambitions well beyond a basic college diploma.

She has career ambitions, do tell!!

:)

Kat

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 01:15 PM

I don't think they are getting the difference between Jason and MF here.

Jason = has a child.

MF=none.

Why does MF need someone to support her, isn't she pushing 30?

:confused:

Kat
Because they would rather believe Michelle`s husband and Cassidy`s father committed this heinous murder?:confused:

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 01:17 PM

But your son didn't murder his wife, right?
And.. apparently,Jason didn`t either or he would be behind bars right now.IMO

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:19 PM

IMO, you have a very deep hatred for Meredith. You pick her apart at every turn. Did you have issues growing up maybe?

If you want to IM me to talk about it its fine.

Maybe it was that poster who said she was going to be arrested for embezzling, and the 911 call that did not add up to the crime scene.

She was close to Michelle, right?
And everyone who was close to Michelle was being looked at, right?

Thanx for the invite, I think I will pass though.

You may be able to find someone else to IM you though, have you tried Craigslist?

:biggrin:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:21 PM

You're right. He could just like the quote.

I actually change my monthly or so...whenever I find a new one I like. Maybe he is mad at someone that he knows reads his page. For example, when my friend was feeling down, I put a quote about friendship on there.

Seriously, you absolutely cannot draw conclusions from one quote on a page like that -- especially if there is not some sort of "pattern" of that kind of thing to the page.

Better yet -- why don't you email him and ask him if he was talking about himself?

Cool, so then we should not judge Jason for his comments and pics on his website!

Kat

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 01:21 PM

I hope you have the same standard for single parents that are female. Specifically, according to your rules of good parenting, all single mothers should move in with their parents. Somehow I doubt parents would agree with you.I have the same standard for any single parent. Ever heard the saying,'it takes a village to raise a child"? Excellent saying.:patriot:

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:26 PM

What do you mean by "gotcha"? Are you trying to "get me"?

We're all familiar with your belief that anything short of an immediate arrest means everyone is innocent.

Good grief.

Gotcha means= I think I understand you

You all think this is some kind of a game sometimes.

JDI's vs. JII's
Round 22........and counting.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:28 PM

I'm sure you're familiar enough with the case to know Meredith's career ambitions.

No, although nothing she does will ever compare to Michelle's accomplishments, will it?

Hope this helps.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:30 PM

I'm sorry you feel the need to make jokes. The offer wasn't meant as a joke.

You seem very distrubed by Meredith's career, looks, choice of residence, etc........ seems a little more is going on there with you.

JMO

I would be concerned with the crime scene and how she not see that a murder had happened there.

But, hey that's just me, I don't walk into gruesome, horrific, bloody murder scenes every day!
Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 01:36 PM

Why would you say something like that? Michelle's life and accomplishments are over. Meredith has her whole life ahead of her.

I certainly hope she makes something out of it, like maybe being a crime victim advocate like Denise Brown did for Nicole.

Something like that..
:)

Kat

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 01:41 PM

I'm sure you're familiar enough with the case to know Meredith's career ambitions.
Merredith`s ambition"Well I'm on the downward spiral of coming down from a high...so I'm a little sleepy! There's nothing I hate more than being sick....except for being sick for 2 weeks (and maybe cheap people) So I'm a little cranky, a little high and a little sleepy....all that, means i should go to bed and end my only day off from work this week.....Be back soon!
Meredith "

http://mixie118.livejournal.com/

annalyzer

09-22-2008, 02:11 PM

snip~ I read her messages to him 4 times she used the word random she even capitalized it once. Do you thing she was sending a message? Keep your mouth shut LE knows it wasn't random.

Yes I noticed that. Don't know why she would repeat the same word in almost every message. Boring, unoriginal, odd.

5swab5

09-22-2008, 02:15 PM

No, although nothing she does will ever compare to Michelle's accomplishments, will it?

Hope this helps.

Kat

What is this, Pick On Meredith Day?

Michelle only had 29 years to work on her accomplishments. :flamemad:

By today's expectations, Meredith can expect to have close to three times the lifespan that Michelle was allowed.

That in and of itself affords Meredith countless possibilities.

MOO

Swabby

annalyzer

09-22-2008, 02:24 PM

Is that like the neighbor using the word "reckon" in almost every post?

Sounds very suspicious.

Not sure who you are talking about but some people use the word "reckon" instead of "think". Nothing suspicous about it.

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 02:24 PM

I could have written that this weekend. I was coming down off a high, having had some interesting things come across my desk last week. I'm also sleepy. There is nothing more than I dislike than being sick (which I am), so I'm a little cranky, a little sleepy, and the high from last week is still lingering.

I wish I could go to bed and end my day, but I have work to do.

Are you going to accuse me of being a drug addict?

If that is the definition of a drug addict, half of America should be in rehab.
Excuse me, I have never typed the words drugs. Those are your words. Please don`t project your words toward me.

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 02:29 PM

Ok..forgive me, I can't get to the link.

It sounds to me like she is sick and has been for a few weeks and took something for it that is now wearing off. She said she is ending her ONLY day off from work this week. Which mean she worked 6 out of 7 days. That is more than me. I work 5 days. What does that say about my ambition?I posted Meredith`s own words with a link,I have NO links to your ambitions.Sorry if her words upset her defenders. Remember,the words you write,you own.Meredith owns these words.

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 02:54 PM

Hehe, they don't upset me at all. Sorry, I should have known better than to be rhetorical. I will rephrase.

If someone is working 6 days a week, I don't believe you should be questioning their ambition. I suppose you work 7 days a week and never get sick.onederwomyn Wrote;
"It sounds to me like she is sick". My work habits are personal and against TOS to ask personal questions.:read:

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 03:15 PM

onederwomyn Wrote" So, that was me making a sarcastic assumption". My bad,I took it as a question not a "sarcastic assumption",

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 03:20 PM

I could have written that this weekend. I was coming down off a high, having had some interesting things come across my desk last week. I'm also sleepy. There is nothing more than I dislike than being sick (which I am), so I'm a little cranky, a little sleepy, and the high from last week is still lingering.

I wish I could go to bed and end my day, but I have work to do.

Are you going to accuse me of being a drug addict?

If that is the definition of a drug addict, half of America should be in rehab.

anybody who admits to being high in a public forum shouldn't be surprised that readers will draw conclusions of drug abuse. You can make excuses all day for such behavior, most drug abusers deny, deny, deny until they get help. Good luck.

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 03:23 PM

Why would you say something like that? Michelle's life and accomplishments are over. Meredith has her whole life ahead of her.

unless Meredith is arrested and convicted of murder of her sister, of course.

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 03:35 PM

[QUOTE=HI_CYCLE;12164821]I am sure both Jason and my son would love to be living "independently" and both were before their lives were changed.Both Jason and my son have chosen to put their daughters before what they WANT. That is called love and good parenting. So as I said last night, unless you have experienced what they have,you don`t have a clue what it`s all about.My son has total custody of his daughter that cost him thousands of dollars and so I would suggest to you that for the courts to remove a daughter from her natural mother,who teaches other parents children,he must have proved to the courts he was a responsible MAN and would make good choices, putting his daughter and her needs before his own. You will never get it and it makes NO difference to me,you obviously can not see pass your nose.MOO[

Please don't apologize. The remarks were made in total ignorance by someone obviously raised in a dysfunctional household. No single parent raising a small child is "independent" in any sense of the word and those who are fortunate to live in multi-generational households are much better off than those who aren't given that advantage. It's a custom that was very common years ago, still very common in some cultures and I'm glad to see it returning in popularity. To you and all the grandparents out there who are adding such a wonderful dimension to these children's lives....

:rose:

5swab5

09-22-2008, 03:42 PM

unless Meredith is arrested and convicted of murder of her sister, of course.

Never gonna' happen, but Meredith's life will have to be put "on hold" once again for the protracted trial that is sure to follow her BIL's arrest.

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

09-22-2008, 03:49 PM

anybody who admits to being high in a public forum shouldn't be surprised that readers will draw conclusions of drug abuse. You can make excuses all day for such behavior, most drug abusers deny, deny, deny until they get help. Good luck.

It is hard to believe that there is so little compassion for a murder victim's sister that people will dig out old posts off the Net and try to make Meredith look bad.

FWIW...high can also mean happy or elated. Hope this helps. ;)

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

09-22-2008, 03:54 PM

Please don't apologize. The remarks were made in total ignorance by someone obviously raised in a dysfunctional household. No single parent raising a small child is "independent" in any sense of the word and those who are fortunate to live in multi-generational households are much better off than those who aren't given that advantage. It's a custom that was very common years ago, still very common in some cultures and I'm glad to see it returning in popularity. To you and all the grandparents out there who are adding such a wonderful dimension to these children's lives....

:rose:

Some people also raise children that are well aware that all the teachings of their parents prepare them to move out in the world and fend for themselves.

There is never a prouder parent, than when they are talking about the accomplishments of their adult children.

What do you suppose Pat Young has to be proud of?

MOO

Swabby

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 03:56 PM

It is hard to believe that there is so little compassion for a murder victim's sister that people will dig out old posts off the Net and try to make Meredith look bad.

FWIW...high can also mean happy or elated. Hope this helps. ;)

MOO

Swabby

The slange expression of high means the happy and elated emotions result from artificial means such as drugs, huffing, etc.
It's Meredith's own words that make her look bad. She doesn't care what other people think about her so why should I? btw, her generation uses "sick" as a slang expression as well.

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 04:26 PM

5swab5

09-22-2008, 04:33 PM

The slange expression of high means the happy and elated emotions result from artificial means such as drugs, huffing, etc.
It's Meredith's own words that make her look bad. She doesn't care what other people think about her so why should I? btw, her generation uses "sick" as a slang expression as well.

That is your opinion (but I see you left that part out).

Doesn't make it correct.

How can you possibly know what a few sentences taken from years ago, actually mean?

Besides, there are so many other things to discuss that are more pertinent to the things at hand, like that pesky shirt that VANISHED between Hillsville-Brevard-Raleigh. Does Brevard have moths that are big enough to devour such an article of clothing in 8 hours or so? IF not, Jason has a bunch of explaining to do.

MOO

Swabby

HI_CYCLE

09-22-2008, 04:33 PM

Some people also raise children that are well aware that all the teachings of their parents prepare them to move out in the world and fend for themselves.

There is never a prouder parent, than when they are talking about the accomplishments of their adult children.

What do you suppose Pat Young has to be proud of?

MOO

SwabbyShe sounds like a mother that has taught her children well. All three appear to be successful adults,law bidding,respectful and beyond all,succeeded in bonding her three children where they are all their to support each other when a tragedy occurs. Well done,Pat and Gerald(sp).

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 04:37 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/3408878/

A DNA swab collected from what appeared to be a blood spatter on the wall in the couple's home "matched the DNA profile obtained from the bloodstain of Jason Young," the warrant stated.

Jason Young was named a suspect on November 7, 2006 in a Non-Testimonial Identification Order signed by Judge Donald Stephens of Wake County.

.......and, your point is?

:confused:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 04:40 PM

Yes I noticed that. Don't know why she would repeat the same word in almost every message. Boring, unoriginal, odd.

Very,,plus she described some late nite activities before going private on her site.

Strange.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 04:43 PM

What is this, Pick On Meredith Day?

Michelle only had 29 years to work on her accomplishments. :flamemad:

By today's expectations, Meredith can expect to have close to three times the lifespan that Michelle was allowed.

That in and of itself affords Meredith countless possibilities.

MOO

Swabby

You walked into the middle of this, so you need to know that posters were complaining about Jason still living at home, or moving back to his hometown after the murder of his wife.

Some of us could not help comparing Michelle's only sister to the same standards !!

That's okay, right?

Thanxxx.
:)
Kat

Lindsey

09-22-2008, 04:56 PM

5swab5

09-22-2008, 04:58 PM

.......and, your point is?

:confused:

Kat

The segue was lost on me too, but as long as it's on the board, here is the quote form the Feb. SW:

(Page 5)

One DNA swab was collected from an area sixteen inches from the floor and seven inches from the frame of the door to Jason Young's closet. The area, which was in close proximity to the victim and surrounded by what appeared to be blood spatter, was described as a possible print. Due to it's location and the reasonable belief that it was in a place where the assailant may have come in contact with the wall, it was sent to the State Bureau of Investigation. The results of the testing were as follows: "The DNA profile obtained fron swabbing the sheetrock MATCHED the DNA profile obtained from the bloodstain of Jason Young"

MOO

Swabby

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 05:02 PM

5swab5

09-22-2008, 05:11 PM

It seems that some people have forgotten that Jason was living independently and owned his own home in Raleigh before he ever married Michelle. After reading some posts, anyone who hadn't been here from the beginning would think he moved straight out of his mother's house and in with Michelle. Not true.

No need to respond. I was just checking to see if Michelle's killer has been arrested. I guess not. I'll try again later.

Your understanding and mine are different.

I understand that he had a roommate in the condo, and that "said" condo was merely an extension of dorm life, only off campus.

Very little in that situation to prepare Jason for taking care of himself, let alone a family, outside of having "Pizza Hut" on speed-dial.

MOO

Swabby

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 05:13 PM

It seems that some people have forgotten that Jason was living independently and owned his own home in Raleigh before he ever married Michelle. After reading some posts, anyone who hadn't been here from the beginning would think he moved straight out of his mother's house and in with Michelle. Not true.

No need to respond. I was just checking to see if Michelle's killer has been arrested. I guess not. I'll try again later.

Lindsey!!!

Yep, Jason did own property and had a good job and worked hard.

I wish more people would give him more credit.

Michelle sure did.

GJ tomorrow !!

This could be it.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 05:15 PM

Not only can HIGH mean happy and elated, but HIGH can also be a term used when on prescription drug. She said she had been sick for two weeks. Perhaps she was on pain killers.

Honestly, do you really think she would post on an internet journal that she was HIGH using ILLEGAL DRUGS? I mean, REALLY? You may think she did it, but give her some credit. Geez.

Who knows.??....:shrug:

She went online 4 months after her sister was murdered to sell a purse.

Everyone grieves differently.

:shrug:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 05:17 PM

Your understanding and mine are different.

I understand that he had a roommate in the condo, and that "said" condo was merely an extension of dorm life, only off campus.

Very little in that situation to prepare Jason for taking care of himself, let alone a family, outside of having "Pizza Hut" on speed-dial.

MOO

Swabby

But, Swabby, I think the point is that Jason owned the condo, whether it was co~owned or not, he was an owner.

Whereas M F lives in a home owned by Mrs. Fisher.

See the difference yet?

Kat

5swab5

09-22-2008, 05:26 PM

I found another on. This one doesn't have her picture.

http://profiles.yahoo.com/mixie118

WHO CARES?

They were both written 3 years before the murders of Michelle and Rylan! Show me a SW against Meredith and I will take a little look-see.

In the meantime, how about that pesky shirt that disappeared between the time that Jason was video taped in Hillsville right before midnight AND when he had his luggage seized in Raleigh the following night?

Where do you suppose that went off to?

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

09-22-2008, 05:36 PM

Yep, Jason did own property and had a good job and worked hard.

I wish more people would give him more credit.

Michelle sure did.

Kat

You don't know that.

People are fooled all the time. Sometimes first impressions lend themselves to rash decisions.

I anxiously await the therapist's notes being read in open Court at trial.

MOO

SWabby

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 05:41 PM

[COLOR="Red"]

<snipped>

In the meantime, how about that pesky shirt that disappeared between the time that Jason was video taped in Hillsville right before midnight AND when he had his luggage seized in Raleigh the following night?

Where do you suppose that went off to?

MOO

Swabby

Dry cleaners?
:biggrin:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 05:44 PM

You don't know that.

People are fooled all the time. Sometimes first impressions lend themselves to rash decisions.

I anxiously await the therapist's notes being read in open Court at trial.

MOO

SWabby

I think the therapist notes are not going to contain what you think or are hoping for.

If they had, that combined with other things, they would have been able to present a half~way case to the Grand Jury by now.

I am more interested in whose hair was found on Michelle's hand.

Kat

5swab5

09-22-2008, 05:44 PM

Who knows.??....:shrug:

She went online 4 months after her sister was murdered to sell a purse.

Everyone grieves differently.

:shrug:

Kat

What was Jason doing four months later?

I lost count.

Was he skiing in Vermont, Golfing in Myrtle Beach, gambling in Los Vegas or horseback riding in Montana?

MOO

Swabby

One thing is for SURE, he wasn't attending any services for Michelle, but you can BET that Meredith was at every single one. Maybe, he was arranging for a headstone for Rylan and Michelle, nope that's definitely not it...so I give up.

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 05:46 PM

What was Jason doing four months later?

I lost count.

Was he skiing in Vermont, Golfing in Myrtle Beach, gambling in Los Vegas or horseback riding in Montana?

MOO

Swabby

One thing is for SURE, he wasn't attending any services for Michelle, but you can BET that Meredith was at every single one. Maybe, he was arranging for a headstone for Rylan and Michelle, nope that's definitely not it...so I give up.

:no:

Wasn't C with him on every one of those trips?
Maybe he had some frequent flyer miles to use or lose?

Kat

5swab5

09-22-2008, 05:47 PM

Dry cleaners?
:biggrin:

Kat

SPeeeeeeeeeeeEW!

ROTFLMAO!

Swabby

5swab5

09-22-2008, 05:53 PM

I think the therapist notes are not going to contain what you think or are hoping for.

If they had, that combined with other things, they would have been able to present a half~way case to the Grand Jury by now.

I am more interested in whose hair was found on Michelle's hand.

Kat

I also have noticed that the hair has not been mentioned since the Autopsy Report.

Given that, I suspect that it is either Michelle's, Jason's or Cassidy's.

Maybe, Mr. Garrison's? It has been a while, I can't remember if they said how long it was.

BUT, what we haven't heard is that there was a hair in Michelle's hand, that was alien to the "Young" MasterBedroom. Probably going to be important down the line.

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

09-22-2008, 06:05 PM

:no:

Wasn't C with him on every one of those trips?
Maybe he had some frequent flyer miles to use or lose?

Kat

I don't see anything wrong with Pat attending Memorials for Michelle with Cassidy, even if Jason isn't interested. In FACT, I consider it a part of being a loving grandmother.

Not like the dates are too hard to plan around.

Michelle's Birthday
Mother's Day
That fateful Nov. Day
Christmas, maybe?

All easy dates to work with...if you really wanted to.

IMO

Swabby

As for Jason squiring his mother all over the Country on vacations, well....I'm not even a good enough arm-chair psychiatrist for that one.:biggrin:

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 06:15 PM

That is your opinion (but I see you left that part out).

Doesn't make it correct.

How can you possibly know what a few sentences taken from years ago, actually mean?

Besides, there are so many other things to discuss that are more pertinent to the things at hand, like that pesky shirt that VANISHED between Hillsville-Brevard-Raleigh. Does Brevard have moths that are big enough to devour such an article of clothing in 8 hours or so? IF not, Jason has a bunch of explaining to do.

MOO

Swabby

My opinion is correct. You don't have to agree with it but your disagreement doesn't make my opinion incorrect. My perception is that the person who wants everybody to know she is high, is a person abusing drugs three years ago and is most likely still at it.

I don't know that a shirt has vanished, pesky or not. Is that your opinion a shirt has vanished? Doesn't seem to be based on anything factual.

MOO

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 06:19 PM

Who knows.??....:shrug:

She went online 4 months after her sister was murdered to sell a purse.

Everyone grieves differently.

:shrug:

Kat

True. Sociopaths don't grieve the same way normal people grieve. Emotions, if exist at all, are wired in the brain differently.

JMO

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 06:22 PM

Not based on anything factual? LE is looking for it. It's in the search warrant. They have him on video at midnight the night his wife was murdered. Where is the shirt ? I'd call that a pesky problem.

MOO Aggie

It's in the search warrant from nearly eight months ago. No other search warrants since then looking for that shirt tells me that they found it. Not pesky any more.

JMO

Caitriona

09-22-2008, 06:22 PM

Grand jury's tomorrow, right? I'm betting Jason's finally gonna be indicted.

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 06:28 PM

Not only can HIGH mean happy and elated, but HIGH can also be a term used when on prescription drug. She said she had been sick for two weeks. Perhaps she was on pain killers.

Honestly, do you really think she would post on an internet journal that she was HIGH using ILLEGAL DRUGS? I mean, REALLY? You may think she did it, but give her some credit. Geez.

not only do I think it, I'm pretty sure a jury won't have any problem drawing the same conclusion I and several others have drawn: she was high after abusing drugs or alcohol. Probably has a history we don't know about but will learn at her trial.

JMO

5swab5

09-22-2008, 06:29 PM

My opinion is correct. (snip)My perception is that the person who wants everybody to know she is high, is a person abusing drugs three years ago and is most likely still at it.(snip)

MOO

Your assertion @ 3:56PM and now, is still wrong, with or without the "MOO".

IMO

Swabby

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 06:34 PM

Your assertion @ 3:56PM and now, is still wrong, with or without the "MOO".

IMO

Swabby

My opinion isn't wrong.

:rolleyes:

Do you live independently of your parents yet?

5swab5

09-22-2008, 06:35 PM

True. Sociopaths don't grieve the same way normal people grieve. Emotions, if exist at all, are wired in the brain differently.

JMO

Sociopath, wanna' talk about a Sociopath.

Why don't we start with Jason Lynn Young?

Wanna talk about "emotions", AGAIN, why don't we talk about Jason Lynn Young?

You know, the Jason Lynn Young that NEVER attended any Memorials for his wife, OR aided in the investigation of the murder of Rylan either. EMOTIONS? Where is Jason Lynn Young's outrage?

MOO

Swabby

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 06:36 PM

Grand jury's tomorrow, right? I'm betting Jason's finally gonna be indicted.

Will you show up here tomorrow if they don't?

:biggrin:

Kat

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 06:37 PM

No shirt found. Still a pesky problem.

MOO Aggie

How do you know the shirt wasn't found?

Pretty silly to be calling it a pesky problem when nearly 8 months have elapsed, there have been no additional searches for it and no arrest but if you don't have anything better to do, consider it a pesky problem.

Caitriona

09-22-2008, 06:38 PM

5swab5

09-22-2008, 06:40 PM

It's in the search warrant from nearly eight months ago. No other search warrants since then looking for that shirt tells me that they found it. Not pesky any more.

JMO

I'm thankful that I have more to rely on than your opinion.

To Wit, the Feb. SWs.

Why do you suppose that LE was still looking for things that Jason Lynn Young's mother reported missing from the Birchleaf house in Brevard, Jason's sisters house AND Jason's "storage shed" ?

MOO

Swabby

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 06:46 PM

Sociopath, wanna' talk about a Sociopath.

Why don't we start with Jason Lynn Young?

Wanna talk about "emotions", AGAIN, why don't we talk about Jason Lynn Young?

You know, the Jason Lynn Young that NEVER attended any Memorials for his wife, OR aided in the investigation of the murder of Rylan either. EMOTIONS? Where is Jason Lynn Young's outrage?

MOO

Swabby

Okay, how could Jason go to any memorial or anything for Michelle if her Mother thinks he killed her?

And, he and the Young family suppposedly hired a PI .

I guess we won't hear too much more about any emotions he has, cause falling plumb to his knees when learning about Michelle's death was a joke here.

But, you know what we did hear?

We heard, firsthand, someone who discovered a dead body of someone they loved, at a bloody murder scene and also did not act the way some of us would.

Did MF fall plumb to her knees?

So, who is right and who is wrong?

:(

Kat

5swab5

09-22-2008, 06:48 PM

My opinion isn't wrong.

:rolleyes:

Do you live independently of your parents yet?

NOYB!

I realize that you are new here today.

But, I'm pretty sure that attacking posters is against TOS.

PLUS, delving for extraneous info about posters is also against TOS.

You might want to check out that thread.

MOO

Swabby

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 06:54 PM

Sociopath, wanna' talk about a Sociopath.

Why don't we start with Jason Lynn Young?

Wanna talk about "emotions", AGAIN, why don't we talk about Jason Lynn Young?

You know, the Jason Lynn Young that NEVER attended any Memorials for his wife, OR aided in the investigation of the murder of Rylan either. EMOTIONS? Where is Jason Lynn Young's outrage?

MOO

Swabby

I've not seen any Internet self-proclamations from Jason Young about being high or a reference to his parent as a lizzard or his need to sell an expensive item on eBay below cost in order to get a few dollars in his pocket or a five-minute rambling conversation between Jason and LE with extra details tossed in that indicate deception. :shrug:

JMO

5swab5

09-22-2008, 06:55 PM

How do you know the shirt wasn't found?

Pretty silly to be calling it a pesky problem when nearly 8 months have elapsed, there have been no additional searches for it and no arrest but if you don't have anything better to do, consider it a pesky problem.

That's kind of a "round end" way of looking at things.

Pat said that Jason didn't change anything out of his luggage at the house. The shirt wasn't in Jason's luggage when he got back to Raleigh, so where is it?

The SW 3 months later is immaterial. It wasn't there that night in Raleigh...where did it go?

MOO

Swabby

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 06:59 PM

NOYB!

I realize that you are new here today.

But, I'm pretty sure that attacking posters is against TOS.

PLUS, delving for extraneous info about posters is also against TOS.

You might want to check out that thread.

MOO

Swabby

If attacking other posters is against TOS as you claim, then why are you attacking me? Twice (or is it three times now?) you've said I'm worng and all I've done is express my opinion. I'm pretty sure that TOS includes showing respect for other's opinions, even if they differ from your own. No need to answer the question you consider so personal. I figured it out. :no:

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 07:01 PM

That's kind of a "round end" way of looking at things.

Pat said that Jason didn't change anything out of his luggage at the house. The shirt wasn't in Jason's luggage when he got back to Raleigh, so where is it?

The SW 3 months later is immaterial. It wasn't there that night in Raleigh...where did it go?

MOO

Swabby

Waiting over 18 months to try to find it puts it right out there with failure to do a rape kit. Useless.

JMO

5swab5

09-22-2008, 07:02 PM

(snipped)Did MF fall plumb to her knees?

So, who is right and who is wrong?

:(

Kat

I sincerely hope that neither of us is ever in the same position.

But, I ask you truthfully, how much better you could have/would have handled the situation in front of a small child of Cassidy's age.

MOO

Swabby

Breaks my heart.

Caitriona

09-22-2008, 07:02 PM

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 07:06 PM

Okay, how could Jason go to any memorial or anything for Michelle if her Mother thinks he killed her?

And, he and the Young family suppposedly hired a PI .

I guess we won't hear too much more about any emotions he has, cause falling plumb to his knees when learning about Michelle's death was a joke here.

But, you know what we did hear?

We heard, firsthand, someone who discovered a dead body of someone they loved, at a bloody murder scene and also did not act the way some of us would.

Did MF fall plumb to her knees?

So, who is right and who is wrong?

:(

Kat

It's a no win situation. I wouldn't go anywhere near someone who thinks I'm a killer and I would expect the feeling to be mutual

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 07:09 PM

It seems that some people have forgotten that Jason was living independently and owned his own home in Raleigh before he ever married Michelle. After reading some posts, anyone who hadn't been here from the beginning would think he moved straight out of his mother's house and in with Michelle. Not true.

No need to respond. I was just checking to see if Michelle's killer has been arrested. I guess not. I'll try again later.

It also should be pointed out that Jason and Michelle converted that first home into an investment rental property. Wise move on their part and certainly doesn't indicate they were having financial problems. It's my understanding they leveraged it completely.

MOO

5swab5

09-22-2008, 07:09 PM

I've not seen any Internet self-proclamations from Jason Young about being high or a reference to his parent as a lizzard or his need to sell an expensive item on eBay below cost in order to get a few dollars in his pocket or a five-minute rambling conversation between Jason and LE with extra details tossed in that indicate deception. :shrug:

JMO

I understand that you are new, I really do. But perhaps reading back would be helpful.

Meredith made comments months and months BEFORE Michelle's brutal murder.

Jason Lynn Young, OTOH has been caught trolling the Internet for new female companionship in recent months. No Problem, you say? HE used pictures of a child to further his legitimacy.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

IMO

Swabby

Poor Cassidy!:rose:

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 07:28 PM

I understand that you are new, I really do. But perhaps reading back would be helpful.

Meredith made comments months and months BEFORE Michelle's brutal murder.

Jason Lynn Young, OTOH has been caught trolling the Internet for new female companionship in recent months. No Problem, you say? HE used pictures of a child to further his legitimacy.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

IMO

Swabby

Poor Cassidy!:rose:

My being "new" has nothing to do with my opinions. I've followed this case from the beginning. I respect the right to your opinion but it appears to be based on over-wrought emotion rather than on the facts of this case.

Comments made at any time can be held against you at trial so when Meredith made her Internet postings really isn't important. I'm sure there are more comments made to LE, friends, etc., that we just don't know about but will come out at her trial. I believe she was very cooperative, which will be helpful to the prosecutor. Killers can't seem to remain silent, even when it is in their best interest to shut up.

Jason Young can date if he likes. Dating is hardly a sign of sociopathic behavior.

MOO

5swab5

09-22-2008, 07:29 PM

Waiting over 18 months to try to find it puts it right out there with failure to do a rape kit. Useless.

JMO

I disagree.

Anyone that has ever either followed crime cases or been at A crime scene knows when "rape" kits are important. This was not one of those cases.

As for that pesky shirt again, LE had Jason's luggage that night and his mother's "statement", that he "changed nothing". BTW, why would he anyway? He had been married for almost two years and no longer living in Brevard. Intelligence dictates, that he would be he!! bound to get back to Raleigh and find out what happened to Michelle & Rylan.

Not so fast. All he wanted was Cassidy, Mr. Garrison and a lawyer. WHY do you suppose that was?

Why do you also suppose that LE was searching "Young" property months later for "missing items" from the murder scene? Funny that pearls were missing, yet they found 3 strings in Jason Lynn Young's "Company storage shed".

Why were neither Michelle OR Jason wearing their rings?

OOPS, there we go...right back to the psychiatrist's notes.

MOO

Swabby

Lacibug

09-22-2008, 07:30 PM

Interesting observation.
Did you happen to see the photos of the LBLO ?
MF was there along with members of LE who brought their families.
The photos captured the warmth and comraderie shared by all. It was a mutual thing.
Spoke volumes to me. ;)

MOO Aggie

I saw the news clips. No sign of LE's families, though.

5swab5

09-22-2008, 07:35 PM

Caitriona

09-22-2008, 07:42 PM

My being "new" has nothing to do with my opinions. I've followed this case from the beginning. I respect the right to your opinion but it appears to be based on over-wrought emotion rather than on the facts of this case.

Comments made at any time can be held against you at trial so when Meredith made her Internet postings really isn't important. I'm sure there are more comments made to LE, friends, etc., that we just don't know about but will come out at her trial. I believe she was very cooperative, which will be helpful to the prosecutor. Killers can't seem to remain silent, even when it is in their best interest to shut up.

Jason Young can date if he likes. Dating is hardly a sign of sociopathic behavior.

MOO

I don't know about sociopathic, but dating your wife's best friend is pretty sick.

MOO TOO

5swab5

09-22-2008, 07:45 PM

If attacking other posters is against TOS as you claim, then why are you attacking me? Twice (or is it three times now?) you've said I'm worng and all I've done is express my opinion. I'm pretty sure that TOS includes showing respect for other's opinions, even if they differ from your own. No need to answer the question you consider so personal. I figured it out. :no:

I am positive that telling you that I disagree with you, is not against TOS.

Thanks for your concern tho.

:rolleyes:

MOO

Swabby

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 07:48 PM

I sincerely hope that neither of us is ever in the same position.

But, I ask you truthfully, how much better you could have/would have handled the situation in front of a small child of Cassidy's age.

MOO

Swabby

Breaks my heart.

I agree that is a hard thing to call , but I hope that I would have enough sense, even just common sense to remove the child from that room, the home, and get her safely away with someone,anyone, until I could access the situation and take in all that has happened.

I know I would freak out, I think most people would.

So, let me ask you this...

If C was not there, would you have expected MF to react the same way?

You don't think people scream when they find a dead body at a murder scene, or is it all just a normal day of events?

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 07:50 PM

I don't know about sociopathic, but dating your wife's best friend is pretty sick.

MOO TOO

There is no proof that Jason and MM were dating, sorry, Bud!!!

:)
Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 07:52 PM

In the s/w's it says that Ryan, Shelle, and MM were all asked to
identify Jason on the video from the Hampton Inn.

Helloooooooooo?

I don't even know Jason Young but I could tell you that
was him.....

What was that all about?
They needed confirmation from 3 different sources to prove
that was him?
Plus the desk clerk, I am sure.

This case is weird.

Kat

JHP

09-22-2008, 07:57 PM

5swab5

09-22-2008, 07:59 PM

(snip)

Comments made at any time can be held against you at trial so when Meredith made her Internet postings really isn't important. I'm sure there are more comments made to LE, friends, etc., that we just don't know about but will come out at her trial. I believe she was very cooperative, which will be helpful to the prosecutor. Killers can't seem to remain silent, even when it is in their best interest to shut up.

(snip)

MOO

Her trial? Laughable! I'm sure that you have your pronouns confused. HIS trial.

Oh, I believe that Meredith's statements and knowledge will be pivotal at trial too.

Just that the FOCUS of all SWs, will finally be in the "DownTown" Hilton in Raleigh. Poor Jason Lynn Young, all those "frequent miles" left on the table. What will poor Pat do for entertainment?

MOO

Swabby

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 08:02 PM

Laughable, that you would compare the ramblings of a twenty-year-old or the sale of something on EBay to a man with a child using Cassidy for date bait!

MOO

Swabby

But, part of the problem is this.

We are told Jason is a party boy and does not want any responsibilities, and then Lindsey comes here
and reminds us that Jason owned or co~owned a condo
with Ryan, before he even knew Michelle.
Sounds pretty responsible to me.

Same with other stuff we were told here,like the shotgun weddings, then the WebKnot page appears and we see it all differently, a real proposal and everything!!!

Then there are the chores Jason supposedly neglects to make him look like a bad husband, but he stains the deck , but, then does not make 2 simple phonecalls to have the alarm activated or someone to come out and repair the heat pump.

Which way is it?

It can't be all one way or the other.

Kat

5swab5

09-22-2008, 08:03 PM

I saw the news clips. No sign of LE's families, though.

It was beautiful! You shoulda' been there.

So should have:

Jason Lynn Young
Pat Young
Cassidy Young
etal!

MOO

Swabby

IF Jason were innocent, of course.

JHP

09-22-2008, 08:05 PM

It was beautiful! You shoulda' been there.

So should have:

Jason Lynn Young
Pat Young
Cassidy Young
etal!

MOO

Swabby

IF Jason were innocent, of course.

I think you should add Kim Young to the list also. She only lives an hour away.

JMO

Jules2

09-22-2008, 08:10 PM

So then, Jules, these stories about Jason, fact, rumor or gossip, are all allowed to fly here and not be doubted or questioned ?

You will forgive some of us, if we simply don't play back.

Thanxxxx.

:)
Kat

PS. Jason did not get arrested by the end of the summer.
FACT.
Therefore, it defies the statement of the one who promised
and predicted it to be........and makes it....
UNTRUE.

Just now getting home so I will address this statement of yours Kat.

If you look back at the history of this discussion...well all that still remains and hasn't ended up "poofed" for whatever reason, the JII's have NOT allowed anything to fly that is said in a negative light towards Jason. EVERYTHING has been doubted and questioned! Posters have been accused of lying. Links are demanded and sometimes when they are...they go "poof" as well. Posters have been accused of starting rumors.......posters are banned merely because they have expressed their opinion that Jason is guilty.

But.......for some odd reason, anything negative that is said towards Meredith is supposed to be fact. No links provided.....and all based on things told to them by people who are supposedly in the know.

My response to HI_cycle was in regards to her comment about Meredith having been "kicked out" of Michelle and Jason's home. I was addressing that post. That rumor. Nothing else. So your coming back with the statement that you did means nothing,proves nothing and makes no sense whatsoever.

Do you have anything to contribute to the rumor that Meredith was "kicked out" of her sister's home? Do you have anything to add that substantiates that rumor? Because if you don't then I simply don't see where your reply has anything to do with what was being discussed.

For every time a JII calls a JDI on anything they post, I/we have the right to do the same. Tit for tat Kat.

This isn't a game. I'm not playing one. To some it is. It's a game of who can sling the nastiest insults, accuse others of posting under multiple nics, insinuate they are stupid or mis-informed. Whatever.

I take this discussion, this board and Michelle's brutal murder very seriously. It's not a game to me and I don't need to attach cutsie little icons or spell my thank yous with x's in order to get my point across.

I do not hang on every word of those who make arrest predictions. Who ever stated it as fact was obviously wrong. It has nothing to do with my post or the topic of Meredith having been kicked out. I'm still waiting for proof of this, so until I see it, it's a lie/rumor.

IMO

Justice for Michelle and Rylan
:rose:

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 08:11 PM

I think you should add Kim Young to the list also. She only lives an hour away.

JMO

Yep, I really think Kim should have been there too, knowing how the Fishers felt about her brother.

:rolleyes:

Tommorow should be a big day, huge, we just got promised an indictment ..

:seeya:

Kat

JHP

09-22-2008, 08:15 PM

Yep, I really think Kim should have been there too, knowing how the Fishers felt about her brother.

:rolleyes:

Tommorow should be a big day, huge, we just got promised an indictment ..

:seeya:

Kat

Someone from the Young family should have had enough class to attend.

Where is this promise?

5swab5

09-22-2008, 08:20 PM

I agree that is a hard thing to call , but I hope that I would have enough sense, even just common sense to remove the child from that room, the home, and get her safely away with someone,anyone, until I could access the situation and take in all that has happened.

I know I would freak out, I think most people would.

So, let me ask you this...

If C was not there, would you have expected MF to react the same way?

You don't think people scream when they find a dead body at a murder scene, or is it all just a normal day of events?

Kat

I don't quite know how to answer that 100%.

The kid, the dog, everything changes everything.

First of all...Thank the Lord, I have never been in the same situation.

I don't have a sister, so that puts me at a disadvantage first of all, as I do believe that sisters are closer than sisters-brothers.

I would like to believe that IF I were led into a situation like Meredith was, that the shock and disbelief would preclude me from worring about my own safety, but cautiously find out what had happened to my brother. (while on the phone with 911)

MOO
Swabby

Having said that, IF my SIL called me to go get something out of their house, knowing what I now know about "set-ups"...I would expect my brother to be dead. Sad, but true...in fact I would call the "law" first.

JHP

09-22-2008, 08:21 PM

Please note that a majority of the JDIs do not promise dates or promise anything, really. Most only hope for justice, period -- whenever it should finally come.

So, you can throw past promises and current promises into someone's face, but it shalln't be mine (shalln't...it's my new word...)....

Isn't that the truth. I think most of the JDIs just want the guilty person arrested. I'm sure everyone would be happy if it wasn't J.

I have never stated an expected arrest date. Only that I hope one is soon.

JMO

5swab5

09-22-2008, 08:30 PM

Someone from the Young family should have had enough class to attend.

Where is this promise?

Someone from the Young family should have had enough class to attend.

Thank You!

MOO

Swabby

Caitriona

09-22-2008, 08:41 PM

Please note that a majority of the JDIs do not promise dates or promise anything, really. Most only hope for justice, period -- whenever it should finally come.

So, you can throw past promises and current promises into someone's face, but it shalln't be mine (shalln't...it's my new word...)....

and ps, it wasn't promised after I go reread it...the poster said she was betting on it. That is a little different than promising. Anyone who gambles knows there is a chance they lose....

You're exactly right. I said I was betting and I am. And if Jason Young isnt in jail tomorrow, I'll be betting the next time.

I don't have a problem with losing. I'm still alive.

5swab5

09-22-2008, 08:53 PM

You're exactly right. I said I was betting and I am. And if Jason Young isnt in jail tomorrow, I'll be betting the next time.

I don't have a problem with losing. I'm still alive.

Me Too,

I don't really care when. I want the prosecution done ONCE & RIGHT!

I know in my heart that it is only a matter of time until Michelle and Rylan get justice.

MOO

Swabby

Barbara2

09-22-2008, 08:56 PM

Me Too,

I don't really care when. I want the prosecution done ONCE & RIGHT!

I know in my heart that it is only a matter of time until Michelle and Rylan get justice.

MOO

Swabby

Most of us are right there with you. The few that get giddy over the thought of a murderer walking free and getting away with the crime are blessedly a minority. IMO

Leanne Weich

09-22-2008, 08:57 PM

Merredith`s ambition"Well I'm on the downward spiral of coming down from a high...so I'm a little sleepy! There's nothing I hate more than being sick....except for being sick for 2 weeks (and maybe cheap people) So I'm a little cranky, a little high and a little sleepy....all that, means i should go to bed and end my only day off from work this week.....Be back soon!
Meredith "

http://mixie118.livejournal.com/

Have you never been sick and taken meds that make you feel high? I sure have and find nothing odd about that message at all. JMHO.

Caitriona

09-22-2008, 09:02 PM

Me Too,

I don't really care when. I want the prosecution done ONCE & RIGHT!

I know in my heart that it is only a matter of time until Michelle and Rylan get justice.

MOO

Swabby

I think so too. I can wait the rest of my life. Cause I've got one.

I just wish Michelle still did.

5swab5

09-22-2008, 09:10 PM

If I were a betting person, I would bet that it is a good bet that tomorrow's grand jury will bring down an indictment. I have said that in the past, but many someones distorted my post to mean that I thought that "Jason Lynn Young" was going to be indicted. That was not the intention of my statement. GJ's hand down indictments all the time. People are arrested after the fact.

I did not name names. The reading comprehension of some on this board is truly incredible. I should say the lack of reading comprehension skills, because whoever read that I said Jason would be indicted apparently did not read the post correctly. However, it is my hope that the one who murdered Michelle and Rylan will be indicted tomorrow.

JUSTICE FOR MICHELLE AND RYLAN - however long it takes!

Fair enough.

Do you care to share with the audience? J/K

Like I have said from jump-street. Whenever, however....

I have been following this case from the very beginning.

As long as Michelle & Rylan get their well deserved justice, I'm on board.

MOO
Swabby

Leanne Weich

09-22-2008, 09:13 PM

I've not seen any Internet self-proclamations from Jason Young about being high or a reference to his parent as a lizzard or his need to sell an expensive item on eBay below cost in order to get a few dollars in his pocket or a five-minute rambling conversation between Jason and LE with extra details tossed in that indicate deception. :shrug:

JMO

I don't believe that Meredith referring to her mom as a lizzard has to be a derogatory term. My siblings and I referred to my mom as an old bat and it wasn't meant as anything other than a term of endearment and she knew it too and loved her nicname.

Barbara2

09-22-2008, 09:51 PM

Sorry but I disagree. If some JDI's would be happy if it was anyone other then Jason they'd entertain theories involving other people. Instead they insult and ridicule anyone who tries to discuss any other possible suspects.

That should be qualified to say "reasonable theories". So far I haven't seen one. IMO

5swab5

09-22-2008, 10:13 PM

Sorry but I disagree. If some JDI's would be happy if it was anyone other then Jason they'd entertain theories involving other people. Instead they insult and ridicule anyone who tries to discuss any other possible suspects.

Not true!

Show me a viable alternative.

MOO

Swabby

annalyzer

09-22-2008, 10:41 PM

This has been skewed by the coven. She was NOT referring to her biological mother. :biggrin:

I'll leave it to your imagination as to whom she was referring.

No link, and JMHO, as always Aggie ;)

So she was living off of her stepmother also?
How old was she when she posted that? Sounded like something a teen would say. Disrespectful nonetheless.

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 11:56 PM

[QUOTE=janesdean;12169018]OMG !!!! Junie, I think you've got the missing piece to this puzzle, the proof ! you've found it !! That is sooooo.....amazing..OMG!!...AMAZING!!
oh, there's a word getting about as worn out as "random" or "awesome".
Don't you have kids Junie ? Teenagers ? random...... /QUOTE]

MF is no teenager, she is 27 and used the word recently on the site that was posted here earlier today.

There goes that :no: icon.
:(

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-22-2008, 11:58 PM

Thanks for proving my point. :rolleyes:

Look at the Dyleski case.

:(

Kat

Kat4Eagles

09-23-2008, 12:01 AM

Actually I was just proving the fact that this murder was done by someone who had ALOT of hatred towards Michelle, someone that knew her very well. Someone very strong and quite a bit larger than her to overpower her and do the damage that was done. Someone like Jason Young, her husband and the father of that baby that was also beaten to a pulp, hardly a stranger burglarizing the place.

Once again, Scott Dyleski killed Pam in such a manner.
Overkill and for something he only thought she did.
:(

Kat

annalyzer

09-23-2008, 12:21 AM

snip~
How much hatred do you think these 2 STRANGERS had to do what they did to this family when they broke into their home to burglarize it? And notice the husband was beaten in the head. The 11 year old was strapped to her bed before the home was set on fire. So please spare me the crap that strangers don't go into overkill when FACTS prove you wrong.

Yes it happens but the majority of the time when a woman is murdered, especially a pregnant woman, the killer turns out to be her husband, boyfriend, ex, etc.

annalyzer

09-23-2008, 12:26 AM

But not always. Jenna Neilsen wasn't murdered by her husband.

A majority of the time does not mean always.

Lacibug

09-23-2008, 12:51 AM

Have you never been sick and taken meds that make you feel high? I sure have and find nothing odd about that message at all. JMHO.

I haven't but of course someone who has been there, done that would defend it. I have yet to see anyone abuse drugs and not get defensive or go into denial. Betty Ford did it for years.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050412/news_lz1c12addict.html

"Alcoholics and drug addicts live a life of denial. They'll tell you everything is just fine and nothing is wrong with them. They're great actors," says Susan Ford Bales, daughter of former President Gerald Ford and Betty Ford, who recently became chairman of the Betty Ford Center in Rancho Mirage. "But, after you see the signs and the changes, you know they're lying. You know they're in trouble."

Lacibug

09-23-2008, 12:58 AM

Get real, she plainly states she had been sick for two weeks, and the high she referred to was the feeling of being out of it because of the medication she took for her illness and having worked 6 days that week.
We really don't need the spin, your post is a rerun of about 30 previous ones. You needa go :read: lady

Nah, I don't buy that at all. Maybe you'll come up with a scenario the jury will believe but I doubt it.

Lacibug

09-23-2008, 01:13 AM

I don't believe that Meredith referring to her mom as a lizzard has to be a derogatory term. My siblings and I referred to my mom as an old bat and it wasn't meant as anything other than a term of endearment and she knew it too and loved her nicname.

I was never that disrespectful to my mom. Calling your mother "an old bat" isn't a term of endearment. You're kidding yourself if you think she "loved" such ridicule. The poor woman has my sympathy.

:rose:

MOO

HI_CYCLE

09-23-2008, 02:30 AM

Actually I was just proving the fact that this murder was done by someone who had ALOT of hatred towards Michelle, someone that knew her very well. Someone very strong and quite a bit larger than her to overpower her and do the damage that was done. Someone like Jason Young, her husband and the father of that baby that was also beaten to a pulp, hardly a stranger burglarizing the place.Unless that person was whacked out on drugs,happens all the time.Maybe someone felt threaten by her and what she knew,my mind is open to many scenarios,unlike the JHTDI.
I really have a hard time as how strangers can be so full of hate when they don`t even know Jayson Young. Maybe some of you just get high off of hate. MOPO

HI_CYCLE

09-23-2008, 02:33 AM

Once again, Scott Dyleski killed Pam in such a manner.
Overkill and for something he only thought she did.
:(

Kat
Kat,was he also on drugs? I don`t remember.

HI_CYCLE

09-23-2008, 02:39 AM

Yes it happens but the majority of the time when a woman is murdered, especially a pregnant woman, the killer turns out to be her husband, boyfriend, ex, etc.And... That is why all the search warrants have been on the spouse. SW are used to R/O not just to convict.I am convinced LE knows this husband is not one of the statistics

HI_CYCLE

09-23-2008, 02:44 AM

But not always. Jenna Neilsen wasn't murdered by her husband.I hear he has moved his family back where they were living prior to moving to Raleigh. He is trying to move on with his life just like JY is. I also heard he is enrolling in law school. I wish him and his family a good life and they can move on and start a new life. His children deserve that.

HI_CYCLE

09-23-2008, 02:44 AM

A majority of the time does not mean always.
Thank you.

5swab5

09-23-2008, 05:44 AM

I have tried to several times.

Burglary gone wrong is one. After being confronted Michelle is killed, some jewelry stolen and it's done. I even posted links showing burglars do kill when confronted.

Soon as Jason comes up with that missing shirt and HushPuppies, I'll look into burglars.

MOO

Swabby

Barbara2

09-23-2008, 07:59 AM

I have tried to several times.

Burglary gone wrong is one. After being confronted Michelle is killed, some jewelry stolen and it's done. I even posted links showing burglars do kill when confronted.

That's a possible theory but not a probable one. Where is the evidence to support burglary gone wrong?

Barbara2

09-23-2008, 08:01 AM

Look at the Dyleski case.

:(

Kat

And look how quickly they were able to eliminate the husband as a suspect and find the killer.

annalyzer

09-23-2008, 08:05 AM

Jenna Neilsen wasn't murdered by her husband.

Last I heard her murderer hadn't been caught. Her husband said he was at home with the children. Not a solid alibi.

annalyzer

09-23-2008, 08:10 AM

And... That is why all the search warrants have been on the spouse. SW are used to R/O not just to convict.I am convinced LE knows this husband is not one of the statistics

They could've fooled me.

Barbara2

09-23-2008, 08:54 AM

I wouldn't even start down this road again. I went round and round with him on probability a few days ago.

I, too, conceded that it is possible, but NOT LIKELY. This was supported by the FBI crime statistics. And there were links after links of the exception put up. But they were just that, exceptions. So, if we start down this path, I think we should start putting links to any burglary article that did not end in murder -- they will far outnumber those that did.

Apparently, they don't even like it when we concede it could be a possibility.

There are many more things that are possibilities too -- the paper man, the neighbor, aliens....

I'm curious what evidence from this particular crime scene supports a theory of burglary gone wrong. In the cases that are cited as examples, it was known pretty quickly that it was stranger murderers because they left evidence behind. We've heard nothing like that in this case that I am aware of.