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nutterbutter
09-21-2008, 04:49 PM
Other thread is almost full so am starting a new tread.Please continue here.Hope this is the rigt way to start te new thread.:rose: Thanks.

FrankieBones1
09-21-2008, 05:10 PM
Heads Up
Tomorrow on Nancy Grace at 8pm Eastern
Monday: Father of Tot Mom's Ex


Also heard that Jessie will be on her show as well. Don't quote me on that just yet, though.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:10 PM
Geez I hate being the first to a party:biggrin:

jammies
09-21-2008, 05:11 PM
Didn't we hear last week there was supposed to be another arrest for Casey?

Or did I dream that?

FrankieBones1
09-21-2008, 05:12 PM
Geez I hate being the first to a party:biggrin:
You came in second! :)
Just came on in time to find out that the weekly Sunday vigil has been cancelled.

Pebbles
09-21-2008, 05:13 PM
Tonight's vigil cancelled:
http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html

from the link:
Meanwhile, the Anthonys said they're canceling their weekly Sunday night prayer vigil outside their home to "ensure the safety of all of their friends, supporters and neighbors."

The family's representative, Larry Garrison, said in a statement that the Anthonys were saddened that they won't be able to pray with their friends for Caylee.

They are asking anyone who would normally join them to light a candle for Caylee at 8:30 p.m. Sunday.

"Please say a prayer for Caylee's safe return, as well as for the return of peace on Hopespring Drive," Caylee's grandmother, Cindy, requested.


I feel that the vigil should be canceled until Casey tells us the truth and the Anthonys actually begin showing us that they are going to stop defending Casey's lies and appreciate all the work that the public, LE, Tim Miller, many, many searchers and the media have done to try and find little Caylee.

We want Caylee to be found, but the vigil should be held in private, no more having the media and public there, let it be just for family and close friends. If other people want to have a vigil for Caylee on their own, that is fine, little Caylee needs prayers, but stop having the vigil out on the driveway, it takes away from the true meaning of the vigil. It should be a private time for prayers and thoughts by the family that Caylee will be coming home.

FrankieBones1
09-21-2008, 05:13 PM
Didn't we hear last week there was supposed to be another arrest for Casey?

Or did I dream that?

I heard it was three more charges but they won't toss her in the clink nor change the bond. It goes with the old charges. (IIRC)

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:13 PM
You came in second! :)
Just came on in time to find out that the weekly Sunday vigil has been cancelled.

I saw that. Thank you for saving me from being first.

jammies
09-21-2008, 05:15 PM
I heard it was three more charges but they won't toss her in the clink nor change the bond. It goes with the old charges. (IIRC)


Thanks Frankie.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:16 PM
Tonight's vigil cancelled:
http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html

from the link:
Meanwhile, the Anthonys said they're canceling their weekly Sunday night prayer vigil outside their home to "ensure the safety of all of their friends, supporters and neighbors."

The family's representative, Larry Garrison, said in a statement that the Anthonys were saddened that they won't be able to pray with their friends for Caylee.

They are asking anyone who would normally join them to light a candle for Caylee at 8:30 p.m. Sunday.

"Please say a prayer for Caylee's safe return, as well as for the return of peace on Hopespring Drive," Caylee's grandmother, Cindy, requested.


I feel that the vigil should be canceled until Casey tells us the truth and the Anthonys actually begin showing us that they are going to stop defending Casey's lies and appreciate all the work that the public, LE, Tim Miller, many, many searchers and the media have done to try and find little Caylee.

We want Caylee to be found, but the vigil should be held in private, no more having the media and public there, let it be just for family and close friends. If other people want to have a vigil for Caylee on their own, that is fine, little Caylee needs prayers, but stop having the vigil out on the driveway, it takes away from the true meaning of the vigil. It should be a private time for prayers and thoughts by the family that Caylee will be coming home.

Notice friends, supporters and neighbors. No mention of family. I bet their families are as disgusted with them as I am. Stop with the vigils that do nothing and tell us where Caylee is.

jammies
09-21-2008, 05:18 PM
Webcam for those who are interested:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

charm7
09-21-2008, 05:19 PM
Tonight's vigil cancelled:
http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html

from the link:
Meanwhile, the Anthonys said they're canceling their weekly Sunday night prayer vigil outside their home to "ensure the safety of all of their friends, supporters and neighbors."

The family's representative, Larry Garrison, said in a statement that the Anthonys were saddened that they won't be able to pray with their friends for Caylee.

They are asking anyone who would normally join them to light a candle for Caylee at 8:30 p.m. Sunday.

"Please say a prayer for Caylee's safe return, as well as for the return of peace on Hopespring Drive," Caylee's grandmother, Cindy, requested.


I feel that the vigil should be canceled until Casey tells us the truth and the Anthonys actually begin showing us that they are going to stop defending Casey's lies and appreciate all the work that the public, LE, Tim Miller, many, many searchers and the media have done to try and find little Caylee.

We want Caylee to be found, but the vigil should be held in private, no more having the media and public there, let it be just for family and close friends. If other people want to have a vigil for Caylee on their own, that is fine, little Caylee needs prayers, but stop having the vigil out on the driveway, it takes away from the true meaning of the vigil. It should be a private time for prayers and thoughts by the family that Caylee will be coming home.

Why are they even considering vigils anyway,
If Cindy is accusing Jesse of putting Caylee's body in the trunk isn't she acknowledging she is dead?

FrankieBones1
09-21-2008, 05:20 PM
Webcam for those who are interested:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html
Notice the cam in on a dashboard this time.

Notice friends, supporters and neighbors. No mention of family. I bet their families are as disgusted with them as I am. Stop with the vigils that do nothing and tell us where Caylee is.Since they have no real friends and not many supporters why didn't she just say, "Our neighbours and their families"?

Thanks Frankie.

You are so welcome, Jammies.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:21 PM
Why are they even considering vigils anyway,
If Cindy is accusing Jesse of putting Caylee's body in the trunk isn't she acknowledging she is dead?


Cindy's going to be mad at you. What she says today is what she wants you to remember. Don't bring up what she said yesterday.:no:

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 05:21 PM
Oh good, a new thread. I just got a phone call from a friend on the west coast asking me if I had been following the case of that woman here who's little girl went missing.

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 05:21 PM
Brought this over from the other thread.........
IIRC, Caylee was born Aug 09 05.
George filed for divorce Dec 29 05.
Casey and Jesse were engaged Dec 31 05.
Casey and Jesse broke up May 06.
George rescinded the divorce Dec 07.

I wonder what happened between say Jan 06 to Dec 07 to make George rescinded the divorce. We know George was married before, is there any children from that marriage? Was Cindy ever married before?

FrankieBones1
09-21-2008, 05:23 PM
Tonight's vigil cancelled:
http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html
((snipped for length as per Coldwater's request))
I see Larry Garrison is still speaking for them.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:23 PM
Oh good, a new thread. I just got a phone call from a friend on the west coast asking me if I had been following the case of that woman here who's little girl went missing.


Did you point her in our direction so she can join in?

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:24 PM
Brought this over from the other thread.........


I wonder what happened between say Jan 06 to Dec 07 to make George rescinded the divorce. We know George was married before, is there any children from that marriage? Was Cindy ever married before?

That is a long time. I wonder is the records are still on file.

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 05:25 PM
I barely got caught up on the other thread and now e have a new one. You guys keep a person busy. I'll tell ya that lol

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 05:25 PM
Did you point her in our direction so she can join in?

She is internetless. Is that a word? lol

She is going to call for updates though.

need2no
09-21-2008, 05:26 PM
Heads Up
Tomorrow on Nancy Grace at 8pm Eastern
Monday: Father of Tot Mom's Ex


Also heard that Jessie will be on her show as well. Don't quote me on that just yet, though.


On 08/30 on the Geraldo show Richard Grund told Craig Rivera he was personally tired of his son Jesse being drug through the mud. He thinks it’s time he told the world what he knows about his son. Mr Grund said 'they' are saying Jesse is involved in this, and he heard this week 'they' are thinking about saying he’s the one who did it….was responsible for Caylee’s disappearance, and planted evidence in that car. Mr. Grund stated it's absolutely not true, and not even possible.


I hope Nancy will ask Mr. Grund exactly where he heard this information, and I hope this didn't just come from message board speculation.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:26 PM
What does any of that have to do with little Caylee Anthony being missing?

Who knows until we know the answers. What does most of what the Anthony's do have to do with Caylee being missing?

charm7
09-21-2008, 05:26 PM
Cindy's going to be mad at you. What she says today is what she wants you to remember. Don't bring up what she said yesterday.:no:


Duh Me !! :shrug:

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:26 PM
I haven't been on the boards for over a week, First I would thatnk everyone who posted all the links, it made catching up on everything I missed a lot easier.

I have a few questions and hoping that you guys may have answers for me.

I read about the PC that TES is going to have tomorrow however I didn't see anything that suggested it was related to Caylee. Am I wrong on this? If it is, do you think that when we were down there 2 weeks ago that she was actually found and it was kept secret until DNA proved it was Caylee? If so I would imagine that would come from LE and not TES. The other thing I thought it may be related to is that TES will not be going back to Orlando and will announce their reasons why and finally could it be that it has something to do with IKE hitting TX and TES took a big hit there. Can someone clarify this for me?

The search fund that was set up to FIND CAYLEE is being shut down but is it really being investigated for fraud? Is Lee being investigated regards this PayPal account?

As I said I have read all the links that have been posted and have some of MOO's but will not address them because I realize I a week behind and am sure no one wants to rehash everything again. I stinks when you're gone for awhile and then have to play catch up.

TIA for going over these questions for me.

jammies
09-21-2008, 05:27 PM
I see Larry Garrison is still speaking for them.



or putting words in their mouth.

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 05:27 PM
She is internetless. Is that a word? lol

She is going to call for updates though.

If it wasn't it is now. lol

Does anyone know if there is going to be coverage of the case or any new information on tonights news channels?

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
What does any of that have to do with little Caylee Anthony being missing?

Humor me, I'm trying to figure out more about the family dynamics.

kakax
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
Didn't we hear last week there was supposed to be another arrest for Casey?

Or did I dream that?


You didn't dream it. On September 18th 11:00 My Fox Orlando live newscast that I watched said there was another charge coming....

This was from my post on Sept. 18th
My Fox Orlando reporting that there will be another arrest soon in this case. Unclear if it is for another one of Amy's checks that has yet to be filed as stolen.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
Why are they even considering vigils anyway,
If Cindy is accusing Jesse of putting Caylee's body in the trunk isn't she acknowledging she is dead?


IMO that's what it sounds like to me...
Did CA publicly make this accusation regarding Jesse? Did I miss this too?

jammies
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
But didn't Cindy say that Caylee's daddy died in a car crash?

I heard the "mind" is the first to go.



Well, that was one version. That was the person whose name she couldn't remember. Another was that she thought Jesse was the daddy. There are probably a zillion more that we haven't heard.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
Duh Me !! :shrug:

LOL I know it upsets her we just never forget. I guess all she didn't realize all her appearances on TV would be on the internet eternally.

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
If it wasn't it is now. lol

Does anyone know if there is going to be coverage of the case or any new information on tonights news channels?



I will check local stations at five.

jessjam
09-21-2008, 05:29 PM
What does any of that have to do with little Caylee Anthony being missing?

It is just a question? I don't know why that would make you upset unless you were Cindy or George. Since you are neither then just sit back and be more educated about this family like the rest of us. Just curious, thats all.

FrankieBones1
09-21-2008, 05:30 PM
I have a few questions and hoping that you guys may have answers for me.

I read about the PC that TES is going to have tomorrow however I didn't see anything that suggested it was related to Caylee. Am I wrong on this? (snipped for length as per Coldwater's request)
I've seen a few posts about TES doing a press conference tomorrow but I don't know what it pertains to. I'm hoping it is to announce that they have recoverd Caylee's remains.:rose:

n/t
09-21-2008, 05:31 PM
But didn't Cindy say that Caylee's daddy died in a car crash?

I heard the "mind" is the first to go.

Jesse is not Caylee's daddy.


Personally, I hoped Jesse would stay away from the media. I realize he needed to perhaps get the word out that he is not involved in Caylee's disappearance but you know what happens once you start to speak, there's a chance you may say something you may regret later. Hope he's lawyered up and only answers questions he is allowed to without jeapordizing any potential murder trial.

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 05:32 PM
I will check local stations at five.

Thanks Armchair

FrankieBones1
09-21-2008, 05:32 PM
Humor me, I'm trying to figure out more about the family dynamics.
I'm with you on the family dynamics. It may go along way in her defence if this case ever goes to trial.

day2day
09-21-2008, 05:32 PM
I haven't been on the boards for over a week, First I would thatnk everyone who posted all the links, it made catching up on everything I missed a lot easier.

I have a few questions and hoping that you guys may have answers for me.

I read about the PC that TES is going to have tomorrow however I didn't see anything that suggested it was related to Caylee. Am I wrong on this? If it is, do you think that when we were down there 2 weeks ago that she was actually found and it was kept secret until DNA proved it was Caylee? If so I would imagine that would come from LE and not TES. The other thing I thought it may be related to is that TES will not be going back to Orlando and will announce their reasons why and finally could it be that it has something to do with IKE hitting TX and TES took a big hit there. Can someone clarify this for me?

The search fund that was set up to FIND CAYLEE is being shut down but is it really being investigated for fraud? Is Lee being investigated regards this PayPal account?

As I said I have read all the links that have been posted and have some of MOO's but will not address them because I realize I a week behind and am sure no one wants to rehash everything again. I stinks when you're gone for awhile and then have to play catch up.

TIA for going over these questions for me.

Welcome back jbella...
The press "leaked" that TES would be having a PC tomorrow. According to someone at WS who spoke to TES-there will be no PC tomorrow.
The trust fund has been shut down...they have not said it is being investigated (yet)..just that they had been receiving lots of angry emails. I am pretty sure it takes more than a few emails to shut a trust down..but who am i?
BTW -TES suffered LOTS of damage due to Ike. We need to remember them in our prayers.
:shrug:

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 05:32 PM
I see Larry Garrison is still speaking for them.

I see he spent his down time learning a new phrase.

;)

jammies
09-21-2008, 05:33 PM
I'm with you on the family dynamics. It may go along way in her defence if this case ever goes to trial.


This whole case is about family dynamics otherwise Casey wouldn't have left home and taken Caylee.

curiousD
09-21-2008, 05:33 PM
I'm with you on the family dynamics. It may go along way in her defence if this case ever goes to trial.

i think the family dynamics is certainly fair game given how this family has behaved.

n/t
09-21-2008, 05:35 PM
Interesting that they canceled the vigils. Someone should tell the Anthonys that vigils don't necessarily need to be held in front of the driveway.

How about attending church on Sundays instead and ask the pastor to say a little prayer for Caylee? Afterall, Casey is religious now, right? She wears a rosary around her neck. :rolleyes:

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:35 PM
I see he spent his down time learning a new phrase.

;)

Casey learned to dial 911 and Garrison learned a new phrase. All that in only 97 days. Where's Caylee?

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 05:35 PM
Brought this over from the other thread.........


I wonder what happened between say Jan 06 to Dec 07 to make George rescinded the divorce. We know George was married before, is there any children from that marriage? Was Cindy ever married before?

Wouldn't a divorce have been final by then?:shrug:

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:35 PM
Tonight's vigil cancelled:
http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html

from the link:
Meanwhile, the Anthonys said they're canceling their weekly Sunday night prayer vigil outside their home to "ensure the safety of all of their friends, supporters and neighbors."

The family's representative, Larry Garrison, said in a statement that the Anthonys were saddened that they won't be able to pray with their friends for Caylee.

They are asking anyone who would normally join them to light a candle for Caylee at 8:30 p.m. Sunday.

"Please say a prayer for Caylee's safe return, as well as for the return of peace on Hopespring Drive," Caylee's grandmother, Cindy, requested.


I feel that the vigil should be canceled until Casey tells us the truth and the Anthonys actually begin showing us that they are going to stop defending Casey's lies and appreciate all the work that the public, LE, Tim Miller, many, many searchers and the media have done to try and find little Caylee.

We want Caylee to be found, but the vigil should be held in private, no more having the media and public there, let it be just for family and close friends. If other people want to have a vigil for Caylee on their own, that is fine, little Caylee needs prayers, but stop having the vigil out on the driveway, it takes away from the true meaning of the vigil. It should be a private time for prayers and thoughts by the family that Caylee will be coming home.


I did see in one of the links that was provided provided that GA said in one of his rants "to heck with TES" or something to that effect. The nerve of him is all I can say. After meeting Tim and seeing for myself the dedication this man had in his quest to find Caylee was truly amazing as with all the cases he has been called in to. IMO this family is nothing but disrespectful to each and every person that tried to help this family and get to the truth about what happened to Caylee. They have chosen to protect Casey when she is the one that can end all of this. Fine, stand by your daughter but for GOD's sake put Caylee FIRST and FOREMOST then deal with Casey at a later date. JMHO

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 05:35 PM
I see he spent his down time learning a new phrase.

;)

Absolutely:D

curiousD
09-21-2008, 05:36 PM
And something tells me Casey will be very forthcoming about Anthony family secrets if it comes down to that.

Absoloutley agree..I firmly believe that KC will throw her family under the bus before this is all over..
Irony or poetic justice?

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:36 PM
What kind of education do you expect to get from a message board?
:confused:

Scooby you do make us think. That's educational. What do you get from the message board?:read:

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 05:36 PM
Wouldn't a divorce have been final by then?:shrug:

I know it would in this house.

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 05:36 PM
This whole case is about family dynamics otherwise Casey wouldn't have left home and taken Caylee.

Ain't that the truth!

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 05:36 PM
I see he spent his down time learning a new phrase.

;)

I have an old phrase I would like to share with Casey someday.

curiousD
09-21-2008, 05:37 PM
Oh, now see? There you go again. Being very disrespectful of your fellow posters. There's a wealth of knowledge here in the form of links and life experiences, for starters.

May I ask why you're here? What is the attraction for you?

Bumpidy bump!!

Boxer
09-21-2008, 05:37 PM
I see he spent his down time learning a new phrase.

;)

He did? OMG! Is there video? Is it available at Amazon? :cool:

day2day
09-21-2008, 05:37 PM
Oh, now see? There you go again. Being very disrespectful of your fellow posters. There's a wealth of knowledge here in the form of links and life experiences, for starters.

May I ask why you're here? What is the attraction for you?

Home confinement?! hammer j/k!!

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:38 PM
I have an old phrase I would like to share with Casey someday.


Go ahead and post it.If she's not reading here Cindy is and she will pass it along.

dixie77
09-21-2008, 05:38 PM
I've seen a few posts about TES doing a press conference tomorrow but I don't know what it pertains to. I'm hoping it is to announce that they have recoverd Caylee's remains.:rose:
==============

But why would TES announce that?

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 05:38 PM
Tonight's vigil cancelled:
http://www.wesh.com/news/17523471/detail.html

from the link:
Meanwhile, the Anthonys said they're canceling their weekly Sunday night prayer vigil outside their home to "ensure the safety of all of their friends, supporters and neighbors."

The family's representative, Larry Garrison, said in a statement that the Anthonys were saddened that they won't be able to pray with their friends for Caylee.

They are asking anyone who would normally join them to light a candle for Caylee at 8:30 p.m. Sunday.

"Please say a prayer for Caylee's safe return, as well as for the return of peace on Hopespring Drive," Caylee's grandmother, Cindy, requested.


I feel that the vigil should be canceled until Casey tells us the truth and the Anthonys actually begin showing us that they are going to stop defending Casey's lies and appreciate all the work that the public, LE, Tim Miller, many, many searchers and the media have done to try and find little Caylee.

We want Caylee to be found, but the vigil should be held in private, no more having the media and public there, let it be just for family and close friends. If other people want to have a vigil for Caylee on their own, that is fine, little Caylee needs prayers, but stop having the vigil out on the driveway, it takes away from the true meaning of the vigil. It should be a private time for prayers and thoughts by the family that Caylee will be coming home.

IMO, they've made a mockery out of vigils.

Wanting people to light candles? Didn't that girl do that last night and they turned the sprinklers on her? She wasn't bothering anybody.

What irony.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:38 PM
Brought this over from the other thread.........


I wonder what happened between say Jan 06 to Dec 07 to make George rescinded the divorce. We know George was married before, is there any children from that marriage? Was Cindy ever married before?


This is the first time I am hearing that GA was married before...when did that come out?

jessjam
09-21-2008, 05:39 PM
What kind of education do you expect to get from a message board?
:confused:

To learn more and more about the Anthony family. Maybe eventually learn why in the heck would a mother not report her daughter missing and at the same time lie about everything. That is just one thing and a very damn important question in my book. So yea, sometimes you need to go back and find some answers to get to some answers for questions that are in the present. I just don't see why that question was such a big deal and that it makes you so upset. Please help me understand.

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 05:39 PM
Go ahead and post it.If she's not reading here Cindy is and she will pass it along.

Um...no thanks, I like it here. Just hit your shift key and some of the number keys, you will get the picture.

?noanswer
09-21-2008, 05:40 PM
I heard it was three more charges but they won't toss her in the clink nor change the bond. It goes with the old charges. (IIRC)

It was the official charges for the ones she bonded out on early in the week. JMO

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 05:40 PM
This is the first time I am hearing that GA was married before...when did that come out?

Cindy's brother Rick (who was verified as the real deal) was talking about it on another board.

day2day
09-21-2008, 05:40 PM
IMO, they've made a mockery out of vigils.

Wanting people to light candles? Didn't that girl do that last night and they turned the sprinklers on her? She wasn't bothering anybody.

What irony.

And they turned the sprinklers on her.

They could hold it in their backyard. BUT since the dogs hit there..i guess they think maybe someone might start their OWN investigation. :shrug:

jmo

Boxer
09-21-2008, 05:41 PM
And Baez seems to have learned the inadvisability of cuddling His Girl out in public.

That's the only thing in this mess that I have actually smiled about. Baez throwing that car door at her was wonderful. the only thing that could have been better is if it had sound so I could make it my ring tone instead of Amy Winehouse's Rehab

n/t
09-21-2008, 05:41 PM
What is the new phrase Larry Garrison is using? I missed it.

o/t Is the site slow is it my computer?

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 05:41 PM
And Baez seems to have learned the inadvisability of cuddling His Girl out in public.

But that's directly related to "his girl" calling 911 and therefore guaranteeing a guilty verdict in her neglect trial.

All his smoke and mirrors went up in flames because of that.

:D

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 05:42 PM
Oh, now see? There you go again. Being very disrespectful of your fellow posters. There's a wealth of knowledge here in the form of links and life experiences, for starters.

May I ask why you're here? What is the attraction for you?

Very good questions, SW!!:beer:

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:42 PM
I've seen a few posts about TES doing a press conference tomorrow but I don't know what it pertains to. I'm hoping it is to announce that they have recoverd Caylee's remains.:rose:


OK, I feel better now. I thought I was the only one that missed something.TY

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:42 PM
And Baez seems to have learned the inadvisability of cuddling His Girl out in public.

Wow that's three things in 97 days. How many more days Anthony's before you bring Caylee home? Does she mean anything at all to you? Don't you miss seeing her beautiful little face and hearing her voice? What is wrong with you people. She was the most valuable thing in your lives.

panokatana
09-21-2008, 05:43 PM
Brought this over from the other thread.........


I wonder what happened between say Jan 06 to Dec 07 to make George rescinded the divorce. We know George was married before, is there any children from that marriage? Was Cindy ever married before?

Maybe they couldn't agree on who got custody of Casey? :shrug:


jmo

tiny paw-prints
09-21-2008, 05:44 PM
I've seen a few posts about TES doing a press conference tomorrow but I don't know what it pertains to. I'm hoping it is to announce that they have recoverd Caylee's remains.:rose:

I think it's highly possible and more probable that appropriate charges for murder will be brought between now and before TES makes any type of an announcement in reference to recovering Caylee's remains.

I believe something very significant was found by the searchers on or about Sept 7 or 8th. About 12 days ago?

:rose: Justice for sweet Caylee

dixie77
09-21-2008, 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by jessjam
It is just a question? I don't know why that would make you upset unless you were Cindy or George. Since you are neither then just sit back and be more educated about this family like the rest of us. Just curious, thats all.
===============

Hmmmmmmmm maybe not Cindy or George but maybe Casey? That poster sure does seem to take up for the A's a lot. Dont ya think? JMO

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 05:44 PM
Maybe they couldn't agree on who got custody of Casey? :shrug:


jmo



You mean like, 'I don't want her you take her'. 'No way I get the dogs, you get her.'

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 05:44 PM
==============

But why would TES announce that?

I don't think TES would. IMO, any remains found by TES are turned over to LE for forensic testing and hopefully an ID. IMO, it's LE's responsibility to notify next of kin and make those types of annoucements. They could then defer to TES for specifics about where the remains were found. JMO.

Velouria
09-21-2008, 05:45 PM
The search fund that was set up to FIND CAYLEE is being shut down but is it really being investigated for fraud? Is Lee being investigated regards this PayPal account?



Hiya Bella! :seeya:

You really need to check out the threads over at WS called "Anthony's Donations". They've done a great job with investigating the alleged fraud.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71551

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 05:45 PM
IMO, they've made a mockery out of vigils.

Wanting people to light candles? Didn't that girl do that last night and they turned the sprinklers on her? She wasn't bothering anybody.

What irony.

What hypocrisy and cruelty, IMO.

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 05:45 PM
To learn more and more about the Anthony family. Maybe eventually learn why in the heck would a mother not report her daughter missing and at the same time lie about everything. That is just one thing and a very damn important question in my book. So yea, sometimes you need to go back and find some answers to get to some answers for questions that are in the present. I just don't see why that question was such a big deal and that it makes you so upset. Please help me understand.


I for one find this board and other boards very education at times and I do learn a lot from posters and the links they provide.
My opinion people can learn something new every day if they are willing to read/listen. Educational information doesn't always come from books or a class room. Your post and question was very reasonable. imo

ellegna
09-21-2008, 05:45 PM
IMO that's what it sounds like to me...
Did CA publicly make this accusation regarding Jesse? Did I miss this too?

I posted this link in the morning thread. Don't mind posting again :)
Richard Grund explains the accusation in his interview. It's half way through the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrbpaRP6r8

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:45 PM
School is for education. Message board is pure entertainment.


Well you do a might good job of that. :biggrin:
I still think you're upsetting Cindy and I just luv that.

day2day
09-21-2008, 05:46 PM
FWIW - there supposedly will be no TES announcement tomorrow.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71578&page=3

"just got off the phone w/ tim miller. These are his words:

"there will be no announcements by tes in regards to this case tomorrow."

Thanks DG...i posted it upthread..but think it was missed! :seeya:

curiousD
09-21-2008, 05:46 PM
What hypocrisy and cruelty, IMO.

Incredible..isnt it..

jessjam
09-21-2008, 05:46 PM
School is for education. Message board is pure entertainment.

I do not find this entertainment. I know that I am here out of concern for a little girl that is not here to defend herself. Yes I really do care about this little girl and want her to have the respect she deserves. This board helps all of us be here for her in our own way.

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 05:47 PM
And they turned the sprinklers on her.

They could hold it in their backyard. BUT since the dogs hit there..i guess they think maybe someone might start their OWN investigation. :shrug:

jmo

They could have held all of them in the backyard, in the house, in a church, in a park.....but what was the use? There's no cameras there.

IMO, the ONLY reason they cancelled is because the HOA attorney told NeJame (on Thursday IIRC) that he needed to instruct his clients to not have them in the driveway anymore.

If the HOA is successful in their injunction, there will be no more vigils in the driveway, nor any supporters of the Anthonys allowed to voice that support in the neighborhood.

Comes under the heading of "Be careful what you wish for..."

Rayosunshine
09-21-2008, 05:47 PM
Webcam for those who are interested:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Looks to me to be inside a vehicle.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 05:47 PM
Are you implying that I am Casey?

Well, if you have posted during her jail-cation, then you can not be her I suppose. IMO

?noanswer
09-21-2008, 05:47 PM
LOL I know it upsets her we just never forget. I guess all she didn't realize all her appearances on TV would be on the internet eternally.

And later on in the courtroom! JMO

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:47 PM
Welcome back jbella...
The press "leaked" that TES would be having a PC tomorrow. According to someone at WS who spoke to TES-there will be no PC tomorrow.
The trust fund has been shut down...they have not said it is being investigated (yet)..just that they had been receiving lots of angry emails. I am pretty sure it takes more than a few emails to shut a trust down..but who am i?
BTW -TES suffered LOTS of damage due to Ike. We need to remember them in our prayers.
:shrug:


So there is NO PC tomorrow by TES? I thought Tim suffered damage because of IKE but I haven't heard just how much. I hope it wasn't a total loss :(

I agree, I just can't see a bank or law firm shutting down a fund over angry e-mails either. There has to be more to this story IMO.

Velouria
09-21-2008, 05:48 PM
The problem is that so much of what you're reading is nothing but speculation and rumor. Its not learning, if its not truth. imo


Speculation and rumor? You mean like speculating anyone who says anything negative in the media about the Anthonys must've been paid?

need2no
09-21-2008, 05:48 PM
What is the new phrase Larry Garrison is using? I missed it.

o/t Is the site slow is it my computer?

The family's representative, Larry Garrison, said in a statement that the Anthonys were saddened that they won't be able to pray with their friends for Caylee.

Mine's moving ok.

panokatana
09-21-2008, 05:48 PM
You mean like, 'I don't want her you take her'. 'No way I get the dogs, you get her.'

Yeah... :)

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 05:49 PM
FWIW - there supposedly will be no TES announcement tomorrow.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71578&page=3

"just got off the phone w/ tim miller. These are his words:

"there will be no announcements by tes in regards to this case tomorrow."

Sounds to me like there may be something coming from TES tomorrow about another case and NOT this case. JMO

msjoni
09-21-2008, 05:49 PM
FWIW - there supposedly will be no TES announcement tomorrow.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71578&page=3

"just got off the phone w/ tim miller. These are his words:

"there will be no announcements by tes in regards to this case tomorrow."

But that doesn't mean LE wouldn't have an announcement.....

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:49 PM
Are you implying that I am Casey?

I sure don't think you're Casey. Or George for that matter. Where do people come up with an idea like that?:shrug:

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 05:50 PM
They could have held all of them in the backyard, in the house, in a church, in a park.....but what was the use? There's no cameras there.

IMO, the ONLY reason they cancelled is because the HOA attorney told NeJame (on Thursday IIRC) that he needed to instruct his clients to not have them in the driveway anymore.

If the HOA is successful in their injunction, there will be no more vigils in the driveway, nor any supporters of the Anthonys allowed to voice that support in the neighborhood.

Comes under the heading of "Be careful what you wish for..."
I find it ironic that they want to have vigils in their driveway but protesters aren't allowed on the sidewalk. :rolleyes:

need2no
09-21-2008, 05:50 PM
Looks to me to be inside a vehicle.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom


ITA...and it's currently raining.

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 05:51 PM
You mean like, 'I don't want her you take her'. 'No way I get the dogs, you get her.'

:lol::lol:I'm sure you're right. They probably were more concerned over who would get the hammer and who would get the bat. JMO.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:51 PM
Interesting that they canceled the vigils. Someone should tell the Anthonys that vigils don't necessarily need to be held in front of the driveway.

How about attending church on Sundays instead and ask the pastor to say a little prayer for Caylee? Afterall, Casey is religious now, right? She wears a rosary around her neck. :rolleyes:

I've said that all along about the vigils. Also I am Catholic and you DON'T where rosary beads around your neck like a peice of jewlery. They are used to pray with....IMO that rosary was given to CA or CA, I really don't know which one was suppose to be used for praying. JMO

Boxer
09-21-2008, 05:52 PM
I guess it's their choice to cancel a vigil. I wouldn't have, but then I'm not about face time on the nightly news. It seems the Anthonys might not like their back yard very much....

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:52 PM
You're right jbella. If TES has an announcement it must be Anthony family related. If TES findings has to do with someone else, why would they be holding back that info?

And yes, I heard that Lee's account has been closed, I don't know all the details.


Well I hope that we hear something real soon.

Velouria
09-21-2008, 05:53 PM
I wouldn't know. I never said anything like that.
:shrug:

LOL

Guess Jesse is off the hook, then.

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 05:53 PM
That's because you read the links, RR. And join in the conversations. It becomes educational with that level of participation.

Now, if you were to come here and do nothing more than look for posts and opinions to criticize, you probably wouldn't find the board educational, either. ;)

Hi SayWhat. I find your posts along with many others very educational. At times very humorous as well. lol :D

ellegna
09-21-2008, 05:53 PM
IMO, they've made a mockery out of vigils.

Wanting people to light candles? Didn't that girl do that last night and they turned the sprinklers on her? She wasn't bothering anybody.

What irony.

Go figure.
Maybe the one person who actually had good intentions and they turn the sprinkers on her.
I guess you're only allowed to light candles at the A's vigils.

jessjam
09-21-2008, 05:54 PM
The problem is that so much of what you're reading is nothing but speculation and rumor. Its not learning, if its not truth. imo

There might be some speculation but I give a lot of the posters a lot of credit for getting there facts straight and for having respect for Caylee to get their facts straight before posting certain things. And if for some reason a poster may be wrong, then someone usually comes on here and corrects it. So I respect a lot of people on here. If you really thought that most of this board was speculation and rumor then I do not understand why you are on here unless like you said earlier you are on here for just pure entertainment.

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 05:54 PM
Now now, you don't mean announcements from LE, you mean "leaks". LOL

Why if LE is making a public announcement would you consider it a leak, even before you know what is going to be said. Every thing is not just either black or gray, throw a little color into your life.

tiny paw-prints
09-21-2008, 05:54 PM
I don't think TES would. IMO, any remains found by TES are turned over to LE for forensic testing and hopefully an ID. IMO, it's LE's responsibility to notify next of kin and make those types of annoucements. They could then defer to TES for specifics about where the remains were found. JMO.

I agree. Do you think MarkH is the father of Caylee and he identified the body and/or any signifcant findings that were located by TES?

Each of the "drip drops" seem like it's all related in some way, especially the cancellation of tonight's Anthony driveway vigil.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:54 PM
Yes, we now know that is a fact, but at first Cindy said that Caylee's daddy died in car accident & Casey told police she had obit on her pc.
I'm just repeating what is an established fact.


But did we ever hear that she produced the obit? I guess even if she did it doesn't make it true either. JMO

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 05:55 PM
A little girl that was missing in Central Florida was found dead today. I just heard about it, didn't even know about it or get an Amber alert text.


:rose:

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 05:56 PM
So there is NO PC tomorrow by TES? I thought Tim suffered damage because of IKE but I haven't heard just how much. I hope it wasn't a total loss :(

I agree, I just can't see a bank or law firm shutting down a fund over angry e-mails either. There has to be more to this story IMO.


ITA jbella and I don't think we'll hear about it until an investigation has been conducted and its findings complete. IMO it has to do with Lee accepting donations through his paypal, which has since been closed, promising to deposit said donations in the trust. IMO, he did not do that and the donaters are a wee bit upset. JMO.

Rayosunshine
09-21-2008, 05:56 PM
Are you implying that I am Casey?

That's not possible, cause I am.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 05:57 PM
Cindy's brother Rick (who was verified as the real deal) was talking about it on another board.


Thanks, I pretty much stick with my buds here:seeya:

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 05:57 PM
Go figure.
Maybe the one person who actually had good intentions and they turn the sprinkers on her.
I guess you're only allowed to light candles at the A's vigils.

They did always have candles, didn't they?

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 05:57 PM
A little girl that was missing in Central Florida was found dead today. I just heard about it, didn't even know about it or get an Amber alert text.


:rose:

:rose:Sad, the only saving grace is that family will have some sort of closure.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:57 PM
As it turns out, keeping up appearances is the most valuable thing in their lives.

And that's my top reason for thinking Cindy was responsible for what happened to Caylee in the pool. Cindy is all about appearance and control. She could never admit she was capable of letting that happen even if it was an accident.

jessjam
09-21-2008, 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by jessjam
It is just a question? I don't know why that would make you upset unless you were Cindy or George. Since you are neither then just sit back and be more educated about this family like the rest of us. Just curious, thats all.
===============

Hmmmmmmmm maybe not Cindy or George but maybe Casey? That poster sure does seem to take up for the A's a lot. Dont ya think? JMO

It sure makes you wonder and so sad at the same time.

Velouria
09-21-2008, 05:58 PM
Go figure.
Maybe the one person who actually had good intentions and they turn the sprinkers on her.
I guess you're only allowed to light candles at the A's vigils.

Remember what Cindy said at the last "vigil", ellegna...

Anyone who was there for Caylee and wasn't also there in support of Casey was not welcome to stay.

Guess she didn't meet the last requirement.

:rose:Caylee

day2day
09-21-2008, 05:58 PM
So there is NO PC tomorrow by TES? I thought Tim suffered damage because of IKE but I haven't heard just how much. I hope it wasn't a total loss :(

I agree, I just can't see a bank or law firm shutting down a fund over angry e-mails either. There has to be more to this story IMO.

Sadly no press conference. The press started this stuff friday and it was on a radio show yesterday...! Det. Yuri had a motorcylce accident and broke his leg in three places. Six to eight week recovery. And yep -i think alll eyes are on the money...!!

jmo

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 05:58 PM
The family's representative, Larry Garrison, said in a statement that the Anthonys were saddened that they won't be able to pray with their friends for Caylee.

Mine's moving ok.


Their friends???? Do they have friends? The last person that came out there to show respect for Caylee had the sprinklers turned on her. Shabby way to treat one of your few supporters, IMO.

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 05:58 PM
A little girl that was missing in Central Florida was found dead today. I just heard about it, didn't even know about it or get an Amber alert text.


:rose:

Oh how sad. who is she? PM me the name if you are afraid going off topic will be an issue. :rose: I hadn't heard anything about another missing girl.

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 05:58 PM
But did we ever hear that she produced the obit? I guess even if she did it doesn't make it true either. JMO

Well Cindy claims to have seen it, Casey told LE she probably had it on her computer.

jessjam
09-21-2008, 05:59 PM
I for one find this board and other boards very education at times and I do learn a lot from posters and the links they provide.
My opinion people can learn something new every day if they are willing to read/listen. Educational information doesn't always come from books or a class room. Your post and question was very reasonable. imo

Thank you!

martha
09-21-2008, 05:59 PM
I think it's highly possible and more probable that appropriate charges for murder will be brought between now and before TES makes any type of an announcement in reference to recovering Caylee's remains.

I believe something very significant was found by the searchers on or about Sept 7 or 8th. About 12 days ago?

:rose: Justice for sweet Caylee I T A i have thought that all along when they left I did not think it was because of the weather.jmho:rose:

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 05:59 PM
I think all of us are here for pure entertainment.


If that is what you think I feel sorry for you. How is a missing 3 year old entertainment? Don't you understand what caring is?

day2day
09-21-2008, 05:59 PM
A little girl that was missing in Central Florida was found dead today. I just heard about it, didn't even know about it or get an Amber alert text.


:rose:

I am so sorry to hear that :(...

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:00 PM
FWIW - there supposedly will be no TES announcement tomorrow.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71578&page=3

"just got off the phone w/ tim miller. These are his words:

"there will be no announcements by tes in regards to this case tomorrow."

Thank you, was this a rumor that was started or did they plan on one and then cancelled it? If you know that is...just curious.

Rayosunshine
09-21-2008, 06:00 PM
Now now, you don't mean announcements from LE, you mean "leaks". LOL


Of course, brought to you by "a source" close to the investigation.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

day2day
09-21-2008, 06:01 PM
I think all of us are here for pure entertainment.

So now you can speak for all of us? Thats rich!

MoonHarvest
09-21-2008, 06:01 PM
I think all of us are here for pure entertainment.


That's ridiculous. Guess you haven't been here long.:rolleyes:

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 06:01 PM
Well Cindy claims to have seen it, Casey told LE she probably had it on her computer.

I'll go ahead a bet that LE never found any obituary on Casey's computer. Maybe a MySpace posting or two related to Jesus' death, but no obituary.

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 06:02 PM
IIRC, they had that one friend -- the 12 year old who ended up in the hospital.

Yes, and Casey invited her to a sleep over and all.

Rayosunshine
09-21-2008, 06:03 PM
It's still my turn for 2 more hours, play nice!

K, will do.

Shellberry
09-21-2008, 06:03 PM
I've seen a few posts about TES doing a press conference tomorrow but I don't know what it pertains to. I'm hoping it is to announce that they have recoverd Caylee's remains.:rose:
I read in a news article a couple days ago that TES is begging for help in texas

TES would not be making that announcement until LE has first announced it to the public - as per Tim Miller himself.
hmm. scary.
I do remember his pc when he said he was pulling out of here for now because of the flood water.
in the beginning of that-he was extremely choked up, imo, and it took him a few minutes before he started talking.

I wonder if something was indeed found.

A little girl that was missing in Central Florida was found dead today. I just heard about it, didn't even know about it or get an Amber alert text.


:rose:
oh my, so sad, I hadnt hear of any other stories recently

Well Cindy claims to have seen it, Casey told LE she probably had it on her computer.

hmm-I thought casey did say somewhere in those 400 docs that she has it at her house and it could be on her comp.


oh-good afternoon/evening everyone!

imo/jmo/etc

?noanswer
09-21-2008, 06:04 PM
But did we ever hear that she produced the obit? I guess even if she did it doesn't make it true either. JMO

I think if there was an obit on her computer, LE found it. Doesn't mean the person is the father. JMO

Velouria
09-21-2008, 06:04 PM
The family's representative, Larry Garrison, said in a statement that the Anthonys were saddened that they won't be able to pray with their friends for Caylee.



How much room could all of the Anthonys' friends possibly take up?

There are a lot of people out there praying for Caylee, Larry.

need2no
09-21-2008, 06:05 PM
Their friends???? Do they have friends? The last person that came out there to show respect for Caylee had the sprinklers turned on her. Shabby way to treat one of your few supporters, IMO.


Well let's think about this...there was Kristina, but now that she did the Globe interview I doubt she's on the family friend list.

There was the little girl Dakota...but since she was hospitalized over this case I doubt she's on the family friend list.

There was Holly..interestingly haven't heard from her in a while. hmmm...

Did I miss any former or current friends/supporters of the Anthony's?

catjoed
09-21-2008, 06:05 PM
ITA...and it's currently raining.

:no:

Not supposed to fly the flag in the rain.

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 06:05 PM
So now you can speak for all of us? Thats rich!

I for one am not on the Caylee Anthony forum for entertainment purposes. Although some posts are very light hearted and entertaining. The main purpose is for information and education on the case itself.

I think it's rude for someone to project their own reasons for being here on others who do not share their purpose or opinions. IMO

martha
09-21-2008, 06:05 PM
I think all of us are here for pure entertainment.
I am sorry you think that way because I am sure not here for that. I have been sick as a dog and still come here everyday to see if they have found caylee. That is all I really want to know. I don;t need any entertainment I have other things I need to be doing. jmho:rose:

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:05 PM
Now now, you don't mean announcements from LE, you mean "leaks". LOL


Define what you mean by "leaks", please. TIA>

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 06:06 PM
Well let's think about this...there was Kristina, but now that she did the Globe interview I doubt she's on the family friend list.

There was the little girl Dakota...but since she was hospitalized over this case I doubt she's on the family friend list.

There was Holly..interestingly haven't heard from her in a while. hmmm...

Did I miss any former or current friends/supporters of the Anthony's?

ScoobyDoo?

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 06:06 PM
I think it was a rumor, only carried through the airwaves & message boards.


Wasn't there a link to the "Daily BS" that you posted either late last night or early this morning saying that there would be a PC by TES on Monday?

martha
09-21-2008, 06:06 PM
I for one am not on the Caylee Anthony forum for entertainment purposes. Although some posts are very light hearted and entertaining. The main purpose is for information and education on the case itself.

I think it's rude for someone to project their own reasons for being here on others who do not share their purpose or opinions. IMO

AMEN i t a with you.:rose:

trich
09-21-2008, 06:07 PM
Are you implying that I am Casey?

I would not wish that on my worst enemy.

Even you !:)

st777jo
09-21-2008, 06:07 PM
Brought over from earlier.

OK Guitarded, I found it. It was from this document 17290449 pdf and it was on pages 120 and 121.

It is a screenshot of Universals employee info and it gives a bunch of info
page 120
Status: Employee
Effective Date: 8/23/04

and on page 121

Employee status: terminated
Effective date: 4/24/06



Then she worked while she was preggers and after having Caylee. Thanks, didn't realize that.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 06:08 PM
I still am of the opinion that Caylee died on Casey's watch. That would still give Cindy a reason to try to keep up appearances. Casey is, after all, her daughter. Living under her roof. For 22 years.

I wish just one person would come forward and say they saw Caylee with Casey after the 15th. Where is that person?

need2no
09-21-2008, 06:09 PM
:no:

Not supposed to fly the flag in the rain.

True, and if my MIL saw that she would march right up to their door and tell them that! :)

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:10 PM
I agree. Do you think MarkH is the father of Caylee and he identified the body and/or any signifcant findings that were located by TES?

Each of the "drip drops" seem like it's all related in some way, especially the cancellation of tonight's Anthony driveway vigil.

I haven't formed an opinion about where MH fits into all this. What is the timeline of his relationship with Casey? What is his relationship with Casey? He may have provided LE with some valuable information and that's what we'll be hearing. If that is the case, it was wise of the Anthonys to cancel the vigil because they'll really need to be tightening the ring of protection about now. IMO.

tiny paw-prints
09-21-2008, 06:10 PM
Of course, brought to you by "a source" close to the investigation.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Regardless of the "source", it gives us a much better understanding as to the reason or reasons why the Anthony's driveway vigil has been cancelled for tonight.

I wonder what, why or who, exactly, the Anthony's "source" might be? Apparently, their "source" is significant enough to cancel the driveway vigil tonight?

Has the Fox crew (webcam) recently packed up and gone away, or are they lurking in the background and making it appear as though they've moved on?

day2day
09-21-2008, 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by ?WudScoobyDo
Are you implying that I am Casey?

Believe it or not..Casey Anthony isn't the only person in the US thats on home confiment?!!? :shrug:

I was kidding..you musta missed it !

catjoed
09-21-2008, 06:10 PM
True, and if my MIL saw that she would march right up to their door and tell them that! :)


:read:


http://www.serve.com/marbeth/flag_etiquette.html

dixie77
09-21-2008, 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by Velouria
Speculation and rumor? You mean like speculating anyone who says anything negative in the media about the Anthonys must've been paid?





I wouldn't know. I never said anything like that.
:shrug:
=============

Yes u did........

Originally Posted by ?WudScoobyDo
I wonder how much Geraldo paid Jesse for the interview?

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:11 PM
A little girl that was missing in Central Florida was found dead today. I just heard about it, didn't even know about it or get an Amber alert text.


:rose:

Has she been identified? IIRC, there was no amber alert for Caylee, either.

Lilly12
09-21-2008, 06:11 PM
Why are they even considering vigils anyway,
If Cindy is accusing Jesse of putting Caylee's body in the trunk isn't she acknowledging she is dead?


Please don't take this the wrong way, for I do not support the Anthonys, but Jesse's father said something to the effect, we received information this week that they are even thinking of saying, he is the one who did it. As much as I would like to think different, I believe it is just hearsay. Nothing concrete. Oh that is were true. Cindy, would indeed be acknowledging Caylee is dead. moo

ellegna
09-21-2008, 06:12 PM
Remember what Cindy said at the last "vigil", ellegna...

Anyone who was there for Caylee and wasn't also there in support of Casey was not welcome to stay.

Guess she didn't meet the last requirement.

:rose:Caylee


:punch: Duh..forgot

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ~DaddysGirl~ View Post
I think it was a rumor, only carried through the airwaves & message boards.

No, not that post. I read it earlier today.

I'll find it.

Thanks though!

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:12 PM
I think all of us are here for pure entertainment.


Please do not include me in your thought processes in the future. TIA.

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Has she been identified? IIRC, there was no amber alert for Caylee, either.


Speaking of the other missing girl, not Caylee,


I am so sorry for the mis information, but so happy.

She is safe! She was found safe! Both my husband and I heard the story and could have sworn they said she had died.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26811127/


I know I am off topic, but had to correct this

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 06:13 PM
You mean saw Caylee with Casey after the 15th?

The timing of things really does confuse the issue. As does the whereabouts of Caylee on the nights leading up to her 'misplacement.'

Yea I edited my c's mixup. It's a tough call but to me it explains a lot of things Casey was doing. And I don't Cindy has ever made a mistake in her life. I can see Casey feeling her life is a mistake.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:14 PM
I posted this link in the morning thread. Don't mind posting again :)
Richard Grund explains the accusation in his interview. It's half way through the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFrbpaRP6r8

Thank you for the link...but he doesn't say that CA is the one who is making the accusation:shrug: so where is this coming from?

msjoni
09-21-2008, 06:14 PM
WHen I watched the clip, he seemed to indicate that it was an out of control web rumor. It actually makes me feel better, than the alternative where the A family sinks to a new low...

But didn't Casey's other lawyer say on Nancy Grace or Greta that Casey's ex-fiance had psych problems? So I would imagine that's where the rumor started....

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 06:15 PM
Regardless of the "source", it gives us a much better understanding as to the reason or reasons why the Anthony's driveway vigil has been cancelled for tonight.

I wonder what, why or who, exactly, the Anthony's "source" might be? Apparently, their "source" is significant enough to cancel the driveway vigil tonight?

Has the Fox crew (webcam) recently packed up and gone away, or are they lurking in the background and making it appear as though they've moved on?


The vigil's cancelled because the HOA attorney advised NeJame to tell his clients (the Anthonys) that the vigils were becoming a problem, attracting more protesters.

Nothing to do with the Anthonys' safety or any such nonsense.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 06:15 PM
george:shrug:

ROFLMAO Like I would believe a word out of his mouth.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:16 PM
Sadly no press conference. The press started this stuff friday and it was on a radio show yesterday...! Det. Yuri had a motorcylce accident and broke his leg in three places. Six to eight week recovery. And yep -i think alll eyes are on the money...!!

jmo

I have missed a lot..Yuri broke his leg! OMG, was it while he was coducting this investigation?

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:16 PM
Well Cindy claims to have seen it, Casey told LE she probably had it on her computer.

Oh, good, as long as Cindy saw it then I beleive it, NOT:rolleyes: My daughter's father is alive and well in Indiana but that wouldn't stop me from pulling a random obit and telling people Look he's dead. Cindy and Casey are just bizarre and crazy. IMO.

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:17 PM
I wish just one person would come forward and say they saw Caylee with Casey after the 15th. Where is that person?

I would think Granny that if there was one they would have come forth already. JMO.

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 06:17 PM
You're talking about Sean who interviewed Padilla, and that's why I said the airwaves.

Sean who?

Was that in the "DailyBS" link that you posted? 'Cause I remember right under the link you posted that he said TES was planning a PC for Monday.

That's the post I'm looking for.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:18 PM
I think it was a rumor, only carried through the airwaves & message boards.


It figures, guess I should have known better.:shrug:

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:18 PM
I have missed a lot..Yuri broke his leg! OMG, was it while he was coducting this investigation?

I thought I read he fell off his bike.:shrug:

day2day
09-21-2008, 06:18 PM
Speaking of the other missing girl, not Caylee,


I am so sorry for the mis information, but so happy.

She is safe! She was found safe! Both my husband and I heard the story and could have sworn they said she had died.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26811127/


I know I am off topic, but had to correct this

Theres a miracle!! :rose:

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 06:18 PM
His statement is absurd. Have the vigil inside, fgs.

Just another pity-the-poor-Anthonys ploy. Transparent, as usual.

Yes. I agree. There is no reason they can't hold a vigil inside or someplace else that would be safe and quiet and big enough to hold family and friends etc.

Do these people really think the public are complet morons?

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 06:19 PM
I would think Granny that if there was one they would have come forth already. JMO.

That's what I think also. Immediately they would have. It's why I gotta stick with Cindy unless something else comes up.

Acorn
09-21-2008, 06:19 PM
I have missed a lot..Yuri broke his leg! OMG, was it while he was coducting this investigation?

During motorcycle recertification. The curse of Casey is broad and far reaching.

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:20 PM
How much room could all of the Anthonys' friends possibly take up?

There are a lot of people out there praying for Caylee, Larry.

IMO each of the Anthony's friends would take up about as much room as Zanny the invisible Nanny.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:20 PM
Well let's think about this...there was Kristina, but now that she did the Globe interview I doubt she's on the family friend list.

There was the little girl Dakota...but since she was hospitalized over this case I doubt she's on the family friend list.

There was Holly..interestingly haven't heard from her in a while. hmmm...

Did I miss any former or current friends/supporters of the Anthony's?


Not sure but isn't Holly the neighbor that's suppose to be on Dr. Phil tomorrow? Anybody know?

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 06:21 PM
Yes. I agree. There is no reason they can't hold a vigil inside or someplace else that would be safe and quiet and big enough to hold family and friends etc.

Do these people really think the public are complet morons?

morons, parasites and maggots and another one I can't remember.

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:21 PM
I think even a 12 yr old child can figure this out; it sent this one to a looney bin when she did. Poor thing! :rose:

Oh Lord Jenny it didn't send her to the loony bin, what I want to know is her parents would have allowed a sleepover.

nutterbutter
09-21-2008, 06:21 PM
Heads Up
Tomorrow on Nancy Grace at 8pm Eastern
Monday: Father of Tot Mom's Ex


Also heard that Jessie will be on her show as well. Don't quote me on that just yet, though.

tyvm!:read:

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:22 PM
ScoobyDoo?

:lol::lol:You crack me up, GrannyB!!:D

Lilly12
09-21-2008, 06:23 PM
School is for education. Message board is pure entertainment.

Say what! Have you not heard of "self-educated people." I believe Lincoln was one, but don't quote me.
moo

need2no
09-21-2008, 06:23 PM
Sean who?

Was that in the "DailyBS" link that you posted? 'Cause I remember right under the link you posted that he said TES was planning a PC for Monday.

That's the post I'm looking for.

It's on the LINKS thread.

SavannahStar
09-21-2008, 06:23 PM
Bringing this over.

Hi SS,

Could you point me to some of these photos/videos? I'd very much like to see them. One thing that I'd would look for is casey being focused on Caylee. One thing I've noticed is that a mother of a young child will stare at them sometimes, to the exclusion of all else. I've seen photos of myself, and also my friends, where this is the case (lots of action, but the mother only has eyes for her child, watching with rapt attention at their joy and experiences). Smiling for the camera says nothing IMO. Thanks in advance for any links you can provide! :seeya:

Sorry can't provide any links. IIRC, about a month ago, or at least several weeks, many photos surfaced, an unbelievable amt. Including pics of Caylee's birth. Then poof....within a day or two they were all gone. I never saved any of them, I don't think. Maybe on another board I'm on, I may have posted a couple. You'll just have to take my word for it. But if you choose not to, that's fine too. I know I saw them, and I know my own reaction as a mother. You may be different.

GrannyB
09-21-2008, 06:24 PM
leeches :seeya:

Thanks I couldn't remember. I have been called worse though. Try again Cindy.

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:24 PM
But didn't Casey's other lawyer say on Nancy Grace or Greta that Casey's ex-fiance had psych problems? So I would imagine that's where the rumor started....

If they said that about the ex, I can only imagine what they must think of their client.

day2day
09-21-2008, 06:24 PM
IMO each of the Anthony's friends would take up about as much room as Zanny the invisible Nanny.

:eek:!!
They are such caring and loving people. Could it be they don't want the neighbors in the back yard. I bet it brings back some BAD memories..jmo..

:no:

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:26 PM
We were having a pity party for Casey last night until barskin came along and :punch: us back into reality.hammer

Yep she brought us back to reality real quick. :lol:

nana6
09-21-2008, 06:26 PM
Hi Everyone, I have been off these boards almost all weekend. Did I miss very much? Please tell me that there is a rumor of an arrest coming!! And not one where she can bail out!! Any news at all on Caylee? Thanx:)

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:27 PM
Exactly - Rosary Beads are to be held in the hand during prayer, or held to the heart (I think). I'm not Catholic, but that's how I've seen them used.

The exception (I heard) is that older people (ie, ready to die) either wear them around their neck or place them at their heart.

I personally take disrespect of Casey's use of Rosary Beads -- especially since she's not Catholic.

Rosaries are also worn hanging from or looped over a belt, particularly with some religious habits, pinned to and hanging from a shoulder or neckline, or wrapped around a wrist or arm as a bracelet. Some Christians feel that it is sacrilegious for a non-believer to wear a rosary around the neck. This is particularly true in Roman Catholic cultures that have histories of persecution, particularly among the Irish and English Catholics.

I'm sure somehone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Peace,


You are NOT wrong..Going to Catholic school and being taught by nuns they did where their rosary looped around the belt of their habits and removed them when it was time to do the rosary. I carried mine in the box that they were given to me in when I made my first holy communion. I have since then passed those to my dear DIL when I received a new rosary from Italy when I was ill 3 years ago.

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 06:28 PM
I have a question that I have not seen posted but could have missed it so please forgive me if I'm repeating somethign that has been addressed already.

Can't LE charged Casey with abandonment if she dropped her child off and failed to have contact with her but keeps claiming she knows where she is and that Caylee called her but Casey yet again failed to find out where she was at o inform LE of her location and other vital information.

Ciny stated on a clip of video I saw one night that Casey knows who has her daughter and knows where she is. So with all this information can't she also be charged with abandonment?

Whats the penal code for abandonment in Florida? What is the guidelines for abandonment?

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:29 PM
Hi Everyone, I have been off these boards almost all weekend. Did I miss very much? Please tell me that there is a rumor of an arrest coming!! And not one where she can bail out!! Any news at all on Caylee? Thanx:)

No rumor, but I bet if you ask nice someone could start one.

crymeariver2006
09-21-2008, 06:29 PM
Look in the links, it's there.

Why yes it is:

Padilla Discusses William W. & Laura R.

Padilla also names Lee as an accomplice, as well as TES to be making a PC about this case on Monday


http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=838

(Be patient, music plays in the beginning of this tape first for a moment)



Just trying to determine where this rumor started about TES having a PC on Monday.

I think I know now.

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:29 PM
Sean who?

Was that in the "DailyBS" link that you posted? 'Cause I remember right under the link you posted that he said TES was planning a PC for Monday.

That's the post I'm looking for.


You are correct. I recall asking what a presser was and receiving an answer so if you're looking you'll find it in the first 1-7 pages of this mornings post, IIRC. JMO.

day2day
09-21-2008, 06:30 PM
They're remembering him alright...just not in their prayers. :D

Thats what i have been thinking. But i think Det. Yuri will be back quickly and see that this case is solved.

msjoni
09-21-2008, 06:30 PM
If they said that about the ex, I can only imagine what they must think of their client.

Well IMO ,Cindy is the one that told the lawyer that Jesse had problems and could have killed Caylee and put her in the trunk of Casey's car....:rolleyes:

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:30 PM
I have a question that I have not seen posted but could have missed it so please forgive me if I'm repeating somethign that has been addressed already.

Can't LE charged Casey with abandonment if she dropped her child off and failed to have contact with her but keeps claiming she knows where she is and that Caylee called her but Casey yet again failed to find out where she was at o inform LE of her location and other vital information.

Ciny stated on a clip of video I saw one night that Casey knows who has her daughter and knows where she is. So with all this information can't she also be charged with abandonment?

Whats the penal code for abandonment in Florida? What is the guidelines for abandonment?

I thought on the tapes Casey claimed over and over she did NOT know where Caylee was?

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:31 PM
I have a question that I have not seen posted but could have missed it so please forgive me if I'm repeating somethign that has been addressed already.

Can't LE charged Casey with abandonment if she dropped her child off and failed to have contact with her but keeps claiming she knows where she is and that Caylee called her but Casey yet again failed to find out where she was at o inform LE of her location and other vital information.

Ciny stated on a clip of video I saw one night that Casey knows who has her daughter and knows where she is. So with all this information can't she also be charged with abandonment?

Whats the penal code for abandonment in Florida? What is the guidelines for abandonment?

Not sure RR but maybe that falls within the current charges of child neglect....:shrug:

oldbluesmith
09-21-2008, 06:31 PM
I have a question that I have not seen posted but could have missed it so please forgive me if I'm repeating somethign that has been addressed already.

Can't LE charged Casey with abandonment if she dropped her child off and failed to have contact with her but keeps claiming she knows where she is and that Caylee called her but Casey yet again failed to find out where she was at o inform LE of her location and other vital information.

Ciny stated on a clip of video I saw one night that Casey knows who has her daughter and knows where she is. So with all this information can't she also be charged with abandonment?

Whats the penal code for abandonment in Florida? What is the guidelines for abandonment?Good afternoon Rebel. Just got on the boards today. Abandonment and neglect are the same thing in Florida. I found that somewhere about a week ago in the Florida Statutes. I will try to find it again. JMHO

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:31 PM
I completely agree with that. Cindy has never made a mistake, nor admitted to a fault or a flaw. And Casey makes no bones about being a major leech and disappointment to her mother.


That's not fair! She admitted she was confused and befuddled during the bond testimony because she was sleep and food deraved, poor dear. Must have been why she said Caylee was going to 4 and that Casey graduated high school:rolleyes: IMO, these people don't realize that their lies are very easy to debunk in this day and age of technology. JMO.

Armchairdet
09-21-2008, 06:32 PM
I thought on the tapes Casey claimed over and over she did NOT know where Caylee was?

But then she said she gave her to ZG, and another woman, can't think of her name in a park in exchange for a script to follow. IMO

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:32 PM
Well IMO ,Cindy is the one that told the lawyer that Jesse had problems and could have killed Caylee and put her in the trunk of Casey's car....:rolleyes:

Then I would really like to know how many times Cindy was in Jesse's company.

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:33 PM
morons, parasites and maggots and another one I can't remember.


Punks???? :shrug:

FrankieBones1
09-21-2008, 06:33 PM
I don't think TES would. IMO, any remains found by TES are turned over to LE for forensic testing and hopefully an ID. IMO, it's LE's responsibility to notify next of kin and make those types of annoucements. They could then defer to TES for specifics about where the remains were found. JMO.
Of course TES wouldn't announce it. I have no idea why I posted that. I must have been preoccupied. Sorry folks. Just ignore that post.

SavannahStar
09-21-2008, 06:33 PM
Scoobdoo might be here for entertainment BUT I for one dont find a missing child..probably dead..entertaining. I'm here to discuss and pray she is found and justice served. Its sad anyone would find it entertaining.

Some responses to some posts are just that......."one liners" as I call them, totally ridiculing and mocking one or another involved in this case. What do you call that? They are posts made for the pure "entertainment" or humorous value. And often others posters respond with "oh GOOD ONE!!!!! :lol:" and then others respond with (paraphrased), well this case is SO sad, we need a laugh now and then.

:shrug:

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 06:33 PM
I thought on the tapes Casey claimed over and over she did NOT know where Caylee was?


I know but she also admitted to lying. So I was wondering if Casey did know where Caylee was as Cindy said she did and others believe she gave her to someone then is it possible to charge her with abandonment?

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:34 PM
But then she said she gave her to ZG, and another woman, can't think of her name in a park in exchange for a script to follow. IMO

Like I said last night this case has more twists than Chubby Checkers and more than my hips are starting to hurt. ( and none of you young people better ask me who CC is)

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 06:35 PM
Good afternoon Rebel. Just got on the boards today. Abandonment and neglect are the same thing in Florida. I found that somewhere about a week ago in the Florida Statutes. I will try to find it again. JMHO

Ok so they fall under the same thing . Can't wait to read your information. Thanks for answering.

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:36 PM
:eek:!!
They are such caring and loving people. Could it be they don't want the neighbors in the back yard. I bet it brings back some BAD memories..jmo..

:no:


and smells, IMO.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:37 PM
I thought on the tapes Casey claimed over and over she did NOT know where Caylee was?


Casey has said a lot of things. The only thing that she said that was true IMO was on those tapes I listened to was that " I would lie and steal" which she has. The last part of her sentence was BS IMO "to find my daughter" Yeah, she waited 31 days and it was her mother that reported her missing. She didn't know how to dial 911 on 6/15 but she sure knew how to dial 911 the other night and demand immediate help. The NERVE shw has. JMO

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:37 PM
I know but she also admitted to lying. So I was wondering if Casey did know where Caylee was as Cindy said she did and others believe she gave her to someone then is it possible to charge her with abandonment?

I'm all for charging her with the fact that my dishwasher isn't working. LOL, You may have a point, but she claims she came back for Caylee.

oldbluesmith
09-21-2008, 06:37 PM
I have a question that I have not seen posted but could have missed it so please forgive me if I'm repeating somethign that has been addressed already.

Can't LE charged Casey with abandonment if she dropped her child off and failed to have contact with her but keeps claiming she knows where she is and that Caylee called her but Casey yet again failed to find out where she was at o inform LE of her location and other vital information.

Ciny stated on a clip of video I saw one night that Casey knows who has her daughter and knows where she is. So with all this information can't she also be charged with abandonment?

Whats the penal code for abandonment in Florida? What is the guidelines for abandonment?Here is one from the Adoption for Florida website that quotes the Florida Statue 39.01:

http://library.adoption.com/child-abuse-and-neglect/definitions-of-child-abuse-and-neglect-florida/article/8448/1.html

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 39.01(West, WESTLAW through End of 2003 Reg. Sess.)

'Abandoned' means a situation in which the parent or legal custodian of a child, or in the absence of a parent or legal custodian, the caregiver responsible for the child's welfare, while being able, makes no provision for the child's support and makes no effort to communicate with the child, which situation is sufficient to evince a willful rejection of parental obligations. If the efforts of such parent or legal custodian, or caregiver primarily responsible for the child's welfare, to support and communicate with the child are, in the opinion of the court, only marginal efforts that do not evince a settled purpose to assume all parental duties, the court may declare the child to be abandoned.


Hope this helps you understand. JMHO

tiny paw-prints
09-21-2008, 06:38 PM
I haven't formed an opinion about where MH fits into all this. What is the timeline of his relationship with Casey? What is his relationship with Casey? He may have provided LE with some valuable information and that's what we'll be hearing. If that is the case, it was wise of the Anthonys to cancel the vigil because they'll really need to be tightening the ring of protection about now. IMO.

Very little info about MH. Although, he did graduate from Colonial High the same year as Casey. Caylee was born Aug 9 05.

http://www.colonialhigh.ocps.net/alumni/2004.htm

Refer to Mark Hawkins and Casey Anthony.

It's also been speculated that Jose Baez's daughters graduated from Colonial High in the same year.

msjoni
09-21-2008, 06:38 PM
Then I would really like to know how many times Cindy was in Jesse's company.

Willow, I don't believe Jesse had anything to do with this, after watching him last night I think he's an upstanding man...I don't feel the same way about the Anthony's and I could see Cindy blaming Jesse instead of her princess Casey....

desmom
09-21-2008, 06:39 PM
But didn't Casey's other lawyer say on Nancy Grace or Greta that Casey's ex-fiance had psych problems? So I would imagine that's where the rumor started....

7/30/08 Michael Walsh on Dan Abrams - 2:25 on the video timeline

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/25940261#25940261

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:39 PM
Well IMO ,Cindy is the one that told the lawyer that Jesse had problems and could have killed Caylee and put her in the trunk of Casey's car....:rolleyes:


Did he work at the tow service storage yard?

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:39 PM
But then she said she gave her to ZG, and another woman, can't think of her name in a park in exchange for a script to follow. IMO

Zanny's sister Samantha

impartial
09-21-2008, 06:39 PM
But then she said she gave her to ZG, and another woman, can't think of her name in a park in exchange for a script to follow. IMO



That came from Lenny, IIRC.

oldbluesmith
09-21-2008, 06:40 PM
Here is the link to the Florida Statues pertaining to children.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/STATUTES/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Index&Title_Request=V#TitleV

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:40 PM
I thought on the tapes Casey claimed over and over she did NOT know where Caylee was?


She honestly, absolutely did not know where Caylee was. On some level, I think this might be the truth. I think she may have been so drunk and doped up she can't remember what she did with Caylee. I wonder if she had black outs from drinking/drugging in the past. JMO.

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:41 PM
Willow, I don't believe Jesse had anything to do with this, after watching him last night I think he's an upstanding man...I don't feel the same way about the Anthony's and I could see Cindy blaming Jesse instead of her princess Casey....

I am with you there, I'm just trying to figure out how they are going to back what they have said, IF in fact they said it, I tend to believe Jesse and his father.

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:41 PM
They may have also had them tucked up their sleeves where their tissues were.

Remember that? :)

Sure do, those were the days weren't they?

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 06:42 PM
Here is one from the Adoption for Florida website that quotes the Florida Statue 39.01:

http://library.adoption.com/child-abuse-and-neglect/definitions-of-child-abuse-and-neglect-florida/article/8448/1.html

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 39.01(West, WESTLAW through End of 2003 Reg. Sess.)

'Abandoned' means a situation in which the parent or legal custodian of a child, or in the absence of a parent or legal custodian, the caregiver responsible for the child's welfare, while being able, makes no provision for the child's support and makes no effort to communicate with the child, which situation is sufficient to evince a willful rejection of parental obligations. If the efforts of such parent or legal custodian, or caregiver primarily responsible for the child's welfare, to support and communicate with the child are, in the opinion of the court, only marginal efforts that do not evince a settled purpose to assume all parental duties, the court may declare the child to be abandoned.


Hope this helps you understand. JMHO

Thank you. See I was thinking since they charged her with neglect for not reporting her missing tha they could possibly charge her with abandonment as well. Sot of like the economic charges being filed as individual charges.

Thanks again.

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:42 PM
But then she said she gave her to ZG, and another woman, can't think of her name in a park in exchange for a script to follow. IMO


:no: No, no, no! She met them (ZFG and her sister Sam) in the park for the drop off but they pushed Casey to the ground, snatched Caylee and gave Casey a 30 day script to be repeated to the police then took off in a late model silver/grey Ford Focus. It wasn't a pleasant exchange at all:rolleyes:

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:42 PM
She honestly, absolutely did not know where Caylee was. On some level, I think this might be the truth. I think she may have been so drunk and doped up she can't remember what she did with Caylee. I wonder if she had black outs from drinking/drugging in the past. JMO.

Didn't George suggest at one time she didn't remember?

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:43 PM
Like I said last night this case has more twists than Chubby Checkers and more than my hips are starting to hurt. ( and none of you young people better ask me who CC is)


Let's twist again like we did last summer ;)
Sorry for the O/T I couldn't resist

impartial
09-21-2008, 06:44 PM
I am with you there, I'm just trying to figure out how they are going to back what they have said, IF in fact they said it, I tend to believe Jesse and his father.


I now don't believe Mommy er Cindy. :cuss:

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:46 PM
Here is one from the Adoption for Florida website that quotes the Florida Statue 39.01:

http://library.adoption.com/child-abuse-and-neglect/definitions-of-child-abuse-and-neglect-florida/article/8448/1.html

Fla. Stat. Ann. § 39.01(West, WESTLAW through End of 2003 Reg. Sess.)

'Abandoned' means a situation in which the parent or legal custodian of a child, or in the absence of a parent or legal custodian, the caregiver responsible for the child's welfare, while being able, makes no provision for the child's support and makes no effort to communicate with the child, which situation is sufficient to evince a willful rejection of parental obligations. If the efforts of such parent or legal custodian, or caregiver primarily responsible for the child's welfare, to support and communicate with the child are, in the opinion of the court, only marginal efforts that do not evince a settled purpose to assume all parental duties, the court may declare the child to be abandoned.


Hope this helps you understand. JMHO

Well by the sound of that it fits don't you think? :shrug:

spiritwolf46
09-21-2008, 06:46 PM
I dont find this case entertaining..sorry that you and scoob do..but I dont. I think its a very sad thing. Just because a laugh or to comes about doesnt mean the poster is finding lil Caylees death 'entertaining'. CW must agree with me since we get in trouble for going off topic alot.

To each their own...some find driving by wrecks interesting as well.


ITA. Humor helps with raw emotion of horrific things at times. If you cannot blow off some steam through humor once in a while, than something like this tends to drive you crazy. Over and over I have seen posters who have to take a few days away to get a grip on this completely sick and bizarre case, so if we use a little humor to cope, than so be it. It is a perfectly NORMAL thing to do and very healthy at that.

This is pretty interesting http://www.corexcel.com/html/body.humor.page7.htm

impartial
09-21-2008, 06:46 PM
Actually Rob Dick said that Casey told him that on the way to Baez' office one day.


Same diff.

IMO

oldbluesmith
09-21-2008, 06:47 PM
Here is a brief portion of the Florida Statues that explains neglect and/or abandonment:

(e) Abandons the child. Within the context of the definition of "harm," the term "abandoned the child" or "abandonment of the child" means a situation in which the parent or legal custodian of a child or, in the absence of a parent or legal custodian, the caregiver, while being able, makes no provision for the child's support and has failed to establish or maintain a substantial and positive relationship with the child. For purposes of this paragraph, "establish or maintain a substantial and positive relationship" includes, but is not limited to, frequent and regular contact with the child through frequent and regular visitation or frequent and regular communication to or with the child, and the exercise of parental rights and responsibilities. Marginal efforts and incidental or token visits or communications are not sufficient to establish or maintain a substantial and positive relationship with a child. The term "abandoned" does not include a surrendered newborn infant as described in s. 383.50.

(f) Neglects the child. Within the context of the definition of "harm," the term "neglects the child" means that the parent or other person responsible for the child's welfare fails to supply the child with adequate food, clothing, shelter, or health care, although financially able to do so or although offered financial or other means to do so. However, a parent or legal custodian who, by reason of the legitimate practice of religious beliefs, does not provide specified medical treatment for a child may not be considered abusive or neglectful for that reason alone, but such an exception does not:

1. Eliminate the requirement that such a case be reported to the department;

2. Prevent the department from investigating such a case; or

3. Preclude a court from ordering, when the health of the child requires it, the provision of medical services by a physician, as defined in this section, or treatment by a duly accredited practitioner who relies solely on spiritual means for healing in accordance with the tenets and practices of a well-recognized church or religious organization.

(g) Exposes a child to a controlled substance or alcohol. Exposure to a controlled substance or alcohol is established by:

1. A test, administered at birth, which indicated that the child's blood, urine, or meconium contained any amount of alcohol or a controlled substance or metabolites of such substances, the presence of which was not the result of medical treatment administered to the mother or the newborn infant; or

2. Evidence of extensive, abusive, and chronic use of a controlled substance or alcohol by a parent when the child is demonstrably adversely affected by such usage.

As used in this paragraph, the term "controlled substance" means prescription drugs not prescribed for the parent or not administered as prescribed and controlled substances as outlined in Schedule I or Schedule II of s. 893.03.

(h) Uses mechanical devices, unreasonable restraints, or extended periods of isolation to control a child.

(i) Engages in violent behavior that demonstrates a wanton disregard for the presence of a child and could reasonably result in serious injury to the child.

(j) Negligently fails to protect a child in his or her care from inflicted physical, mental, or sexual injury caused by the acts of another.

(k) Has allowed a child's sibling to die as a result of abuse, abandonment, or neglect.

(l) Makes the child unavailable for the purpose of impeding or avoiding a protective investigation unless the court determines that the parent, legal custodian, or caregiver was fleeing from a situation involving domestic violence.

tiny paw-prints
09-21-2008, 06:48 PM
I have missed a lot..Yuri broke his leg! OMG, was it while he was coducting this investigation?

Yuri "broke a leg"? Maybe it's a rumor?

desmom
09-21-2008, 06:48 PM
:no: No, no, no! She met them (ZFG and her sister Sam) in the park for the drop off but they pushed Casey to the ground, snatched Caylee and gave Casey a 30 day script to be repeated to the police then took off in a late model silver/grey Ford Focus. It wasn't a pleasant exchange at all

:seeya:

So since Caylee was missing for 30 days when LE was finally called, why did Casey follow the script? :D

oldbluesmith
09-21-2008, 06:48 PM
Well by the sound of that it fits don't you think? :shrug:In my opinion, there is no doubt about it. JMHO

oldbluesmith
09-21-2008, 06:50 PM
Yuri "broke a leg"? Maybe it's a rumor?Last week it was reported by a new organization that Yuri broke his leg during a motorcycle training exercise. JMO

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:50 PM
Actually Rob Dick said that Casey told him that on the way to Baez' office one day.

Do you have an opinion on why the woman that stayed in the house with her has hired a lawyer and he advised her not to talk to LE? I am very puzzled by this.

msjoni
09-21-2008, 06:50 PM
7/30/08 Michael Walsh on Dan Abrams - 2:25 on the video timeline

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/25940261#25940261

Thank You Desmom! :)

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:51 PM
Yuri "broke a leg"? Maybe it's a rumor?

Must be LE told the media.

barskin&co.
09-21-2008, 06:51 PM
:seeya:

So since Caylee was missing for 30 days when LE was finally called, why did Casey follow the script? :D

Now, remember, it was a very complicated and hard to follow script. I believe it went something like this:

Day One: Tell the police nothing.
Day Two: Tell the police nothing
Day Three: Tell the police nothing
Day Four: Tell the police nothing
Day Five: Tell the police nothing....

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 06:51 PM
Thank you oldblusmith for all your posts pertaining to abandonment. Very informative.

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:52 PM
Do you have an opinion on why the woman that stayed in the house with her has hired a lawyer and he advised her not to talk to LE? I am very puzzled by this.

Bella did you read the link i posted on the last thread?

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:52 PM
Very little info about MH. Although, he did graduate from Colonial High the same year as Casey. Caylee was born Aug 9 05.

http://www.colonialhigh.ocps.net/alumni/2004.htm

Refer to Mark Hawkins and Casey Anthony.

It's also been speculated that Jose Baez's daughters graduated from Colonial High in the same year.


I don't see the names of the guys who visited/scheduled visits with her in jail claiming to have gone to HS with her. Just an observation.

SavannahStar
09-21-2008, 06:52 PM
I dont find this case entertaining..sorry that you and scoob do..but I dont. I think its a very sad thing. Just because a laugh or to comes about doesnt mean the poster is finding lil Caylees death 'entertaining'. CW must agree with me since we get in trouble for going off topic alot.

To each their own...some find driving by wrecks interesting as well.


I seldom use this icon but for you I will :no:.......where did I say that me and Scoob find this case entertaining?

I think the ones who makes jokes do, though. You included?

impartial
09-21-2008, 06:53 PM
True, but I have to wonder if Padilla or Rob Dick are saying the things that they're saying out of truth, or intentionally misguiding the public for their own reasons.



I think Padilla rode into town on a big horse, and left without his horse but did have the horse's tail between his legs.

He was criticized for bailing her out, smoothed that over with promises he would have it all solved within a week. His credibility took a big hit, and he is trying to backpeddle to save what is left of his credibility ... with supposed insider information.

IMO

oldbluesmith
09-21-2008, 06:53 PM
Thank you oldblusmith for all your posts pertaining to abandonment. Very informative.Aw shucks. You are very welcome. :o

SavannahStar
09-21-2008, 06:54 PM
When I first started posting on this board, I got caught up in the "snark routine" and posted a lot of one-liners which made me feel very clever and intellectually superior but didn't really move the discussion on at all.

I don't do that anymore (although, if provoked I guess I could revert).

It's more important to me now to absorb the breaking news, opinions and links that other posters offer.

Now and then I may offer an opinion but mostly I lurk and learn. :)

:rose: I'm glad to hear that.

Rebel Rouzer
09-21-2008, 06:54 PM
Doesn't that come under the child neglect charge?


In some states I believe it is a seperate charge or can be charged seperately but looks like under Florida law it runs together under the neglect charge.

Where's Katprint when ya need her? lol

jbellaj
09-21-2008, 06:54 PM
Bella did you read the link i posted on the last thread?

No Willow, I've been off the boards for a week and jumped right on this one..sorry if it has already been discussed. Can you just briefly tell me so I don't have to backtrack? Please

day2day
09-21-2008, 06:54 PM
I think Padilla rode into town on a big horse, and left without his horse but did have the horse's tail between his legs.

He was criticized for bailing her out, smoothed that over with promises he would have it all solved within a week. His credibility took a big hit, and he is trying to backpeddle to save what is left of his credibility ... with supposed insider information.

IMO

Yep he did say that. BUT he did put up $50,000 and he did get the phone records from Lee. Gotta give the guy a little credit-seeing as you are impartial and all!! :D:seeya:

Lilly12
09-21-2008, 06:55 PM
I for one am not on the Caylee Anthony forum for entertainment purposes. Although some posts are very light hearted and entertaining. The main purpose is for information and education on the case itself.

I think it's rude for someone to project their own reasons for being here on others who do not share their purpose or opinions. IMO

I am on the board for justice...... justice for Caylee. I like being abreast of the events in this case, and I find this message board most informative, and quite educational. Why there are some words I have never head before e.g.....adhominem.
I also find some posters retionale quite entertaining. moo
Oh, and some tidibets along the way. Did you know you could use the bag in cereal boxes to preserve your fruits/vegetables, instead of spending money on those bags as seen on T.V.? And spelling, I always get a refresher course from these boards. I like my comupter, my friends live there.

barskin&co.
09-21-2008, 06:55 PM
Yuri "broke a leg"? Maybe it's a rumor?

4:08 p.m. The lead detective investigating the Caylee Anthony case was hospitalized overnight after breaking his leg.

Detective Yuri Melich, the investigator who told a judge in July that he believed Caylee Anthony was likely dead and her mother was the person of interest, was released this morning.
Melich was injured while completing re-certification training for the sheriff's office motors unit, according to a sheriff's spokesman.

Melich's injuries are not life threatening and will not hinder the investigation.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

rosejustrose
09-21-2008, 06:57 PM
:seeya:

So since Caylee was missing for 30 days when LE was finally called, why did Casey follow the script? :D


She was confused, she couldn't remember when she was supposed to started spinning the lies, 30 days from when they snatched Caylee or 30 days from the LE first got to her. Either way, she's a nut case, IMO.

WillowInFlight
09-21-2008, 06:57 PM
No Willow, I've been off the boards for a week and jumped right on this one..sorry if it has already been discussed. Can you just briefly tell me so I don't have to backtrack? Please

From NG 9/18LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MEETING WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS: Well, the thing about it is when we bailed out of Orlando it was because of the safety situation that was starting to increase and nobody believed us. And the thing about it is they can get off that bond any time, remove her, send her back to jail and it`s a lot safer for her and everybody else.

Now, something that came up earlier about the investigators that are out here right now. One thing that I do want to mention that took kind of a strange turn. The attorney for the young lady that was with Casey for nine days in the house and rode with her to the attorneys and back and forth, her attorney won`t let her discuss anything with the investigators that are here from the FBI and Orlando Sheriff`s Office because she didn`t discuss it with Orlando Sheriff`s Office before she left and he`s afraid that they might want to prosecute her for withholding information on some of the things that, I guess, Casey had told her.

So I just wanted to straighten that out over and above what I had said before about them coming out here to talk to everybody.

GRACE: So, Leonard, bottom line, the female security person may know something that actually jeopardizes her own legal stat us?

PADILLA: In talking to her attorney today, he said he could not, in good conscience, allow her to discuss anything, specifically some things that Casey had told her regarding Caylee, without talking to their bosses tomorrow in Orlando.

And so he -- she`s not going to have the meeting today that was supposed to take place and I didn`t want you to think that I lied to you about that.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/18/ng.01.html