Sunday afternoon 9-21

[SavannahStar]

Oh, and some tidibets along the way. Did you know you could use the bag in cereal boxes to preserve your fruits/vegetables, instead of spending money on those bags as seen on T.V.?


*snipped*

If Joan were on no doubt she would do the wagging finger and say "O/T!!!!!!!!!"

(Depending of course on whether or not you agree with her point of view.)

[KKKKKKatie]

I don't see the names of the guys who visited/scheduled visits with her in jail claiming to have gone to HS with her. Just an observation.


somewhere way back in my mind IIRC it was said he went to Jr. High with her??? I don't know where that was tho

[rosejustrose]

Must be LE told the media.

Or "a source" close to LE.:rolleyes:

[barskin&co.]

I think Padilla rode into town on a big horse, and left without his horse but did have the horse's tail between his legs.

He was criticized for bailing her out, smoothed that over with promises he would have it all solved within a week. His credibility took a big hit, and he is trying to backpeddle to save what is left of his credibility ... with supposed insider information.

IMO

What he and Rob Dick are saying on the air, he is telling to investigators from the OCSO and the FBI. I doubt they would lie to them. When, Padilla talks about his theories, I discount what he is saying. When he talks about what he heard, I listen. He has been wrong, but he hasn't lied.

[impartial]

Yep he did say that. BUT he did put up $50,000 and he did get the phone records from Lee. Gotta give the guy a little credit-seeing as you are impartial and all!! :D:seeya:


I initially gave him credit ... but it seems he is spewing what is posted on WS more than he is giving information gleened from any investigation.

His stories are ranking up there with NG's, IMO. Remember the "if you leave Caylee at the drugstore" with no questions asked, promising to give them money? How in the heck do you give an annonymous person money.

He's full of hot air.

IMO

[Rebel Rouzer]

I am on the board for justice...... justice for Caylee. I like being abreast of the events in this case, and I find this message board most informative, and quite educational. Why there are some words I have never head before e.g.....adhominem.
I also find some posters retionale quite entertaining. moo
Oh, and some tidibets along the way. Did you know you could use the bag in cereal boxes to preserve your fruits/vegetables, instead of spending money on those bags as seen on T.V.? And spelling, I always get a refresher course from these boards. I like my comupter, my friends live there.

I would love to see justice anddignity for Caylee as well.

No I didn't know about the bags lol

[Texas48]

Exactly - Rosary Beads are to be held in the hand during prayer, or held to the heart (I think). I'm not Catholic, but that's how I've seen them used.

The exception (I heard) is that older people (ie, ready to die) either wear them around their neck or place them at their heart.

I personally take disrespect of Casey's use of Rosary Beads -- especially since she's not Catholic.

Rosaries are also worn hanging from or looped over a belt, particularly with some religious habits, pinned to and hanging from a shoulder or neckline, or wrapped around a wrist or arm as a bracelet. Some Christians feel that it is sacrilegious for a non-believer to wear a rosary around the neck. This is particularly true in Roman Catholic cultures that have histories of persecution, particularly among the Irish and English Catholics.

I'm sure somehone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Peace, I am Catholic and I am in the "older" group and I must say I have never seen Rosarie Beads worn around the neck. We will, at times, wrap one loop around our wrist and say our prayers bead by bead. I suppose one can wear them or hold them any way they choose but..CA is not Catholic from what I have been told on the boards so...IMO the beads did look somewhat out of place but I did not have a problem with it. The problem I had was knowing in my heart it was all for show. JMO..I say again..JMO And many people wear a cross necklace sooooooooooooo.quess she can do what she wants.Prayers are what counts and I hope she does do that. I will say again JMO

[rosejustrose]

I think Padilla rode into town on a big horse, and left without his horse but did have the horse's tail between his legs.

He was criticized for bailing her out, smoothed that over with promises he would have it all solved within a week. His credibility took a big hit, and he is trying to backpeddle to save what is left of his credibility ... with supposed insider information.

IMO


It'd go a long way to restoring some of credibility if he would just admit he underestimated Casey and his ability to break down her defenses. I truly believe he looked at her pictures and figured he was dealing with a defenseless little girl that would be intimidated by his toothpick chewing, abrasive ways. He had no idea what he was coming up against, a true psycho. He just needs to admit he made a mistake, just like the Anthonys need to do. JMO.

[tiny paw-prints]

I don't see the names of the guys who visited/scheduled visits with her in jail claiming to have gone to HS with her. Just an observation.


I've always had the belief that those guys were designated to make an appearance at the jail. Although, I'm not sure who would have orchestrated that particular designation of obstruction. Lee, perhaps?

[day2day]

I initially gave him credit ... but it seems he is spewing what is posted on WS more than he is giving information gleened from any investigation.

His stories are ranking up there with NG's, IMO. Remember the "if you leave Caylee at the drugstore" with no questions asked, promising to give them money? How in the heck do you give an annonymous person money.

He's full of hot air.

IMO


I remember that! I guess everyone in this case lies. I have never seen a case like this in my entire life. And imo the only person that suffered was little Caylee...

very sad...imo

[jbellaj]

[QUOTE=WillowInFlight;12161078]From NG 9/18LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MEETING WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS:

Snipped for space.

Ok, so if Casey did say something to this woman it was against the law not to report their conversations? That's what I'm getting from that. If that's the case couldn't she be offered immunity so they could find out what Casey had said during those 9 days. If this woman went as far as getting an attorney Casey surely had said something to this woman that set bells off. If so I wonder why she didn't tell LE about it ASAP. :shrug:

[joolz]

From NG 9/18LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MEETING WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS: Well, the thing about it is when we bailed out of Orlando it was because of the safety situation that was starting to increase and nobody believed us. And the thing about it is they can get off that bond any time, remove her, send her back to jail and it`s a lot safer for her and everybody else.

Now, something that came up earlier about the investigators that are out here right now. One thing that I do want to mention that took kind of a strange turn. The attorney for the young lady that was with Casey for nine days in the house and rode with her to the attorneys and back and forth, her attorney won`t let her discuss anything with the investigators that are here from the FBI and Orlando Sheriff`s Office because she didn`t discuss it with Orlando Sheriff`s Office before she left and he`s afraid that they might want to prosecute her for withholding information on some of the things that, I guess, Casey had told her.

So I just wanted to straighten that out over and above what I had said before about them coming out here to talk to everybody.

GRACE: So, Leonard, bottom line, the female security person may know something that actually jeopardizes her own legal stat us?

PADILLA: In talking to her attorney today, he said he could not, in good conscience, allow her to discuss anything, specifically some things that Casey had told her regarding Caylee, without talking to their bosses tomorrow in Orlando.

And so he -- she`s not going to have the meeting today that was supposed to take place and I didn`t want you to think that I lied to you about that.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/18/ng.01.html

I am confused about this. I thought the female security person was someone who Padilla supplied. No?:confused:

[impartial]

What he and Rob Dick are saying on the air, he is telling to investigators from the OCSO and the FBI. I doubt they would lie to them. When, Padilla talks about his theories, I discount what he is saying. When he talks about what he heard, I listen. He has been wrong, but he hasn't lied.


Barskin, do you really think the investigators went to CA to speak with Padilla & Company? They were in Florida, they could have spoken to them then. They could call them on the phone and do a recorded telephone interview. They could have them make a statement, have it signed, witnessed and mail it to them.

I think the investigators went to CA for another reason, and are using Padilla & Co. as decoys.

And this thing about having a confidentiality agreement with its enforcement/validity based on what state they are in doesn't make sense. Either there is a confidentiality agreement or there isn't. I have never heard of one that is dependant on what state you're in.

But, then again, it is Baez, so who knows.

IMO

[WillowInFlight]

I seldom use this icon but for you I will :no:.......where did I say that me and Scoob find this case entertaining?

I think the ones who makes jokes do, though. You included?
I have to jump in here, there are some of us that are on different sides of the fence, some respect that fact, others try to bait, SS as far as I have seen has always been respectful of others, no matter what side she is on. I don't think I would lump her into the 3 or 4 that come on here for entertainment purposes. Ok off my soap box, and BTW SS and I are on opposite sides of the fence.

[day2day]

It'd go a long way to restoring some of credibility if he would just admit he underestimated Casey and his ability to break down her defenses. I truly believe he looked at her pictures and figured he was dealing with a defenseless little girl that would be intimidated by his toothpick chewing, abrasive ways. He had no idea what he was coming up against, a true psycho. He just needs to admit he made a mistake, just like the Anthonys need to do. JMO.

Remember -Casey told him to get the HELL outta HER house after 5-10 minutes!!! I bet he was pissed-after travelin all the way to Florida. Noone else would have bailed her sorry butt out!

jmo...

[SavannahStar]

I initially gave him credit ... but it seems he is spewing what is posted on WS more than he is giving information gleened from any investigation.

His stories are ranking up there with NG's, IMO. Remember the "if you leave Caylee at the drugstore" with no questions asked, promising to give them money? How in the heck do you give an annonymous person money.

He's full of hot air.

IMO

I think so too, impartial. So much of what he says seems to be "sensational" and I get the feeling he is looking for his 15 min. of fame. I will admit I didn't like him at ALL at first......then later came to like him, I think he actually does have a heart. But....I believe he's quite egotistical and very much enjoys his time in front of the cameras.

[rosejustrose]

I initially gave him credit ... but it seems he is spewing what is posted on WS more than he is giving information gleened from any investigation.

His stories are ranking up there with NG's, IMO. Remember the "if you leave Caylee at the drugstore" with no questions asked, promising to give them money? How in the heck do you give an annonymous person money.

He's full of hot air.

IMO

The same way you leave your child with an invisible nanny:shrug:

[WillowInFlight]

I am confused about this. I thought the female security person was someone who Padilla supplied. No?:confused:

You're correct

[jbellaj]

I think given her profession she's continually "lawyered up", and he protects her rights in each and every case she's involved.

You don't want to go to jail for your job, you know? She has to be careful with protocol & procedure.

I think she knows a lot , reasonable considering the fact that she lived inside that house for 9 days. Such as knowing who the Anthonys contacted to do P.I. work, where they're searching via those P.I.'s, the demeanor of the family members pertaining to various issues of this case, Casey's demeanor when she's not in jail and not in front of the camera putting on her stone face.

Just a whole assortment of information.

But that doesn't sound like she did anything wrong in not telling LE before she left town IMO....How can they possibily hold that against her?

[KKKKKKatie]

I am confused about this. I thought the female security person was someone who Padilla supplied. No?:confused:


I always thought so too but maybe he "contracted" her thru a local bounty hunter or something :shrug:

[SavannahStar]

I have to jump in here, there are some of us that are on different sides of the fence, some respect that fact, others try to bait, SS as far as I have seen has always been respectful of others, no matter what side she is on. I don't think I would lump her into the 3 or 4 that come on here for entertainment purposes. Ok off my soap box, and BTW SS and I are on opposite sides of the fence.

Thanks Willow, that is much appreciated. I, too, appreciate those on the "other side" who are respectful of all. I cringe when I see other posters who are constantly ridiculed. :( I love Frankie's sig...skip and scroll if you can't handle it.

[barskin&co.]

It'd go a long way to restoring some of credibility if he would just admit he underestimated Casey and his ability to break down her defenses. I truly believe he looked at her pictures and figured he was dealing with a defenseless little girl that would be intimidated by his toothpick chewing, abrasive ways. He had no idea what he was coming up against, a true psycho. He just needs to admit he made a mistake, just like the Anthonys need to do. JMO.
On the days after the 400 page doc was made public and the Body Farm results, he was on the evening shows saying he was wrong.

Wednesday night, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla reiterated to Eyewitness News earlier comments he'd made about the decision to post Casey's bond. Padilla's nephew, a California bondsman, put up $50,000 to free Casey Anthony. Padilla said his nephew was deciding Wednesday night whether to revoke that bond.

"I was wrong," said Padilla. "The people were right that said I should have left her in there."
http://www.wftv.com/news/17315205/detail.html

[tiny paw-prints]

4:08 p.m. The lead detective investigating the Caylee Anthony case was hospitalized overnight after breaking his leg.

Detective Yuri Melich, the investigator who told a judge in July that he believed Caylee Anthony was likely dead and her mother was the person of interest, was released this morning.
Melich was injured while completing re-certification training for the sheriff's office motors unit, according to a sheriff's spokesman.

Melich's injuries are not life threatening and will not hinder the investigation.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story


Thank you! It's good to know that Melich's injuries were not life threatening and will not hinder the investigation.

I believe the investigation is moving forward at a more rapid pace at this time.

[aubrey04]

Barskin, do you really think the investigators went to CA to speak with Padilla & Company? They were in Florida, they could have spoken to them then. They could call them on the phone and do a recorded telephone interview. They could have them make a statement, have it signed, witnessed and mail it to them.

I think the investigators went to CA for another reason, and are using Padilla & Co. as decoys.

And this thing about having a confidentiality agreement with its enforcement/validity based on what state they are in doesn't make sense. Either there is a confidentiality agreement or there isn't. I have never heard of one that is dependant on what state you're in.

But, then again, it is Baez, so who knows.

IMO


Maybe they went to give a lie detector test to that Hawkins character? Just a thought...:confused:

[crymeariver2006]

Now, does the content of that link come under the category of speculation or rumor or leaks or histrionics or message board fodder? :shrug:

:shrug:

:D

[rosejustrose]

I've always had the belief that those guys were designated to make an appearance at the jail. Although, I'm not sure who would have orchestrated that particular designation of obstruction. Lee, perhaps?

There was talk early on that he was passing along a message in "code" since Casey didn't recognize him at first until he mentioned someone else's name. Then he went on to tell her they were all supporting her or such. I'll have to go back and listen again. In retrospect, that theory might not be so farfetched. You know, kinda like Hey Casey, we have your back they won't find Caylee. JMO.

[Lilly12]

You called? :biggrin:

Cute. lol

[WillowInFlight]

But that doesn't sound like she did anything wrong in not telling LE before she left town IMO....How can they possibily hold that against her?

I would think it depends on what they found out she knew. :shrug:

[?noanswer]

Didn't George suggest at one time she didn't remember?

Wonder how George found out where she was. He has made a statement saying they knew where she was and was watching the kidnappers. JMO

[joolz]

I always thought so too but maybe he "contracted" her thru a local bounty hunter or something :shrug:


:shrug: No idea. I guess I just thought she was an employee of Padilla's, and would be reporting back to him. This is making about as much sense to me as the rest of this mess.

[Regina.Lampert]

Some responses to some posts are just that......."one liners" as I call them, totally ridiculing and mocking one or another involved in this case. What do you call that? They are posts made for the pure "entertainment" or humorous value. And often others posters respond with "oh GOOD ONE!!!!! :lol:" and then others respond with (paraphrased), well this case is SO sad, we need a laugh now and then.

:shrug:

A little humor on such a devastating case as this helps people cope, imo. Those of us who went thru the Laci Peterson case bonded over some of the most humorous threads ever at court tv, they were legendary. No one felt the case was any less sad or serious because of a little humor. IMO.

I'm with Audrey - ""I love people who make me laugh. It's the thing I like most. It cures a multitude of ills." - Audrey Hepburn

[rosejustrose]

I remember that! I guess everyone in this case lies. I have never seen a case like this in my entire life. And imo the only person that suffered was little Caylee...

very sad...imo

It does seem beyond the pale of reason the amount of lying going on in this case. It's just unbelievable that these people who supposedly loved Caylee so much will continue to lie to the detriment of the investigation trying to find this precious little baby. It's just sick, IMO.

[impartial]

I have to jump in here, there are some of us that are on different sides of the fence, some respect that fact, others try to bait, SS as far as I have seen has always been respectful of others, no matter what side she is on. I don't think I would lump her into the 3 or 4 that come on here for entertainment purposes. Ok off my soap box, and BTW SS and I are on opposite sides of the fence.



SS welcomes all posts and posters, regardless of what side of the fence they are on, or are still on the fence.

Who's giving SS grief? Lemme at 'em.

IMO

[barskin&co.]

Barskin, do you really think the investigators went to CA to speak with Padilla & Company? They were in Florida, they could have spoken to them then. They could call them on the phone and do a recorded telephone interview. They could have them make a statement, have it signed, witnessed and mail it to them.

I think the investigators went to CA for another reason, and are using Padilla & Co. as decoys.

And this thing about having a confidentiality agreement with its enforcement/validity based on what state they are in doesn't make sense. Either there is a confidentiality agreement or there isn't. I have never heard of one that is dependant on what state you're in.

But, then again, it is Baez, so who knows.

IMO

Yes, I do. I also believe that he does not lie. He has had bad theories, the worst being Caylee was alive and he would get Casey to tell him where she was, but when he speaks of something he has actual knowledge of, I do believe him. I won't listen to his predictions, but I will listen to what he has heard with is own ears or seen with his own eyes. I certainly do not believe both he and Rob Dick are lying about this 30 day script story.

[rosejustrose]

[QUOTE=WillowInFlight;12161078]From NG 9/18LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MEETING WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS:

Snipped for space.

Ok, so if Casey did say something to this woman it was against the law not to report their conversations? That's what I'm getting from that. If that's the case couldn't she be offered immunity so they could find out what Casey had said during those 9 days. If this woman went as far as getting an attorney Casey surely had said something to this woman that set bells off. If so I wonder why she didn't tell LE about it ASAP. :shrug:

I don't think she's refusing to talk to investigators, I think she's waiting to meet with the management of her company and her attorney in order to see if there is anything criminal about how she's handled this information to date. I stand to be corrected.

[Regina.Lampert]

Thank you! It's good to know that Melich's injuries were not life threatening and will not hinder the investigation.

I believe the investigation is moving forward at a more rapid pace at this time.

Hey Tiny Paws!!! I have been reading you too and I have a feeling that you have a theory of what happened in this case. Looking forward to hearing all about it when you're ready. :seeya:

[luvinlife]

Thank you for the link...but he doesn't say that CA is the one who is making the accusation:shrug: so where is this coming from?



IMO message boards, I believe he sent a message to a message board explaining his anger about this quite awhile ago. I think it was posted at WS (not sure if it was directed to them or another board). I am not a member so I can't look up posts. I have tried to find it and cannot.

[jbellaj]

I would think it depends on what they found out she knew. :shrug:

Maybe her attorney will allow her to answer LE questions under the condition they don't charge her with whatever she can be charged with and she'll be the smart one out of the bunch and keep quiet until the trial IF Casey is charged..:shrug: JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

I love to laugh even on my worse day. Laughter is truly the best medicine..just because I laugh doesnt mean I find this case 'entertaining'....I'm sure there are comical threads somewhere, just not this one. IMO

Of course the "facts" aren't entertaining, I am referring to the discussions of various aspects of the case. Every now and then there are some very witty posts and I appreciate them. I have never seen anyone actually laughing over the fact that a young life has been taken.

[nana6]

Maybe they went to give a lie detector test to that Hawkins character? Just a thought...:confused:

and maybe a dna test?:shrug:

[KKKKKKatie]

:shrug: No idea. I guess I just thought she was an employee of Padilla's, and would be reporting back to him. This is making about as much sense to me as the rest of this mess.

I know...it just gets stranger and stranger.

I was happy to read that there will be no more vigils at the Anthony's. IMO they just caused problems for everyone

[rosejustrose]

I think so too, impartial. So much of what he says seems to be "sensational" and I get the feeling he is looking for his 15 min. of fame. I will admit I didn't like him at ALL at first......then later came to like him, I think he actually does have a heart. But....I believe he's quite egotistical and very much enjoys his time in front of the cameras.

I agree with you SS. I think LP is truly concerned about Caylee. I never thought he took advantage of Caylee being missing to grandstand. I think he sincerely wants to find her. He's not my favorite character in this mess but he's not my least favorite, either:D

JMO.

[oldbluesmith]

How does on ignore on this new board..all I see on the persons profile is befriend.. TIA
On the offensive persons name on the board, you click on their name and then VIEW PUBLIC PROFILE. On the next page, click on USER LIST and you get a drop down menu. Click on ADD TO IGNORE LIST. A new page will come up and you have to click on YES to add that person to your iggy list. JMO

[GinoA797]

BRB My invisible personal Chef has dinner ready.

Mine too. And guess what my invisible maid just finished cleaning the house.

[WillowInFlight]

Wonder how George found out where she was. He has made a statement saying they knew where she was and was watching the kidnappers. JMO

If you remember right after making that statement Cindy and George did spend time with LE hours on end, and then George changed his story and said he, himself was being watched. They used to spend a lot of time at LE's office, we have not heard of that in weeks.

[msjoni]

Yes, I do. I also believe that he does not lie. He has had bad theories, the worst being Caylee was alive and he would get Casey to tell him where she was, but when he speaks of something he has actual knowledge of, I do believe him. I won't listen to his predictions, but I will listen to what he has heard with is own ears or seen with his own eyes. I certainly do not believe both he and Rob Dick are lying about this 30 day script story.

I agree with you Barskin. IMO, he started out as a "bad guy" but came to realize Casey and her family are liars... I don't always agree with his theories but I don't believe he or Rob Dick are lying about what they HEARD....

[rosejustrose]

On the days after the 400 page doc was made public and the Body Farm results, he was on the evening shows saying he was wrong.

Wednesday night, bounty hunter Leonard Padilla reiterated to Eyewitness News earlier comments he'd made about the decision to post Casey's bond. Padilla's nephew, a California bondsman, put up $50,000 to free Casey Anthony. Padilla said his nephew was deciding Wednesday night whether to revoke that bond.

"I was wrong," said Padilla. "The people were right that said I should have left her in there."
http://www.wftv.com/news/17315205/detail.html


Thank you barskin! I hadn't seen that before. I feel a lot better about him. :)

[spiritwolf46]

Of course the "facts" aren't entertaining, I am referring to the discussions of various aspects of the case. Every now and then there are some very witty posts and I appreciate them. I have never seen anyone actually laughing over the fact that a young life has been taken.

That's right. There has never been laughter over the fact that this little girl is probably gone, but laughter has been introduced against the insanity of the Anthony's and their way of a lying, despicable life.

Gotta make fun sometimes just to keep from wanting to go there and hammer them!

:rose: For Caylee

[ellegna]

I think given her profession she's continually "lawyered up", and he protects her rights in each and every case she's involved.

You don't want to go to jail for your job, you know? She has to be careful with protocol & procedure.

I think she knows a lot , reasonable considering the fact that she lived inside that house for 9 days. Such as knowing who the Anthonys contacted to do P.I. work, where they're searching via those P.I.'s, the demeanor of the family members pertaining to various issues of this case, Casey's demeanor when she's not in jail and not in front of the camera putting on her stone face.

Just a whole assortment of information.


Just a wild guess
This woman was part of Padilla's team correct?
We heard LP and Bob Dick state they were allowed to converse with Casey as long as they did not ask her questions about Caylee. What if this woman did ask and as a result obtained some crucial info?
That would explain why she lawyered up and asked for immunity because she violated the terms and conditions.

[?noanswer]

It'd go a long way to restoring some of credibility if he would just admit he underestimated Casey and his ability to break down her defenses. I truly believe he looked at her pictures and figured he was dealing with a defenseless little girl that would be intimidated by his toothpick chewing, abrasive ways. He had no idea what he was coming up against, a true psycho. He just needs to admit he made a mistake, just like the Anthonys need to do. JMO.

I don't think JB gave him an opportunity to try. JMO

[st777jo]

There's a blimp flying above. Think their dropping of rosary beads and bibles and oh yea, more scripts????

[impartial]

Yes, I do. I also believe that he does not lie. He has had bad theories, the worst being Caylee was alive and he would get Casey to tell him where she was, but when he speaks of something he has actual knowledge of, I do believe him. I won't listen to his predictions, but I will listen to what he has heard with is own ears or seen with his own eyes. I certainly do not believe both he and Rob Dick are lying about this 30 day script story.


But he said on more than one occasion that he has never spoken to Casey about the case.

IMO

[WillowInFlight]

Maybe her attorney will allow her to answer LE questions under the condition they don't charge her with whatever she can be charged with and she'll be the smart one out of the bunch and keep quiet until the trial IF Casey is charged..:shrug: JMO

They say she has asked for immunity.

[jbellaj]

[QUOTE=jbellaj;12161105]

I don't think she's refusing to talk to investigators, I think she's waiting to meet with the management of her company and her attorney in order to see if there is anything criminal about how she's handled this information to date. I stand to be corrected.


Ok then, So once she meets with them if you're correct and they deem there is no problem then she can give a statement. Do I have that correct?

[Velouria]

I know...it just gets stranger and stranger.

I was happy to read that there will be no more vigils at the Anthony's. IMO they just caused problems for everyone


Hi Katie. :) IMO the last few vigils have been much like Casey's rosary - for show.

[rosejustrose]

Why would anyone have a pity party for that tramp or any member of her psycho family? This is all about caylee and not the other way around. Anyone who thinks message boards are for entertainment especially with such a precious child like caylee missing is clearly not thinking. Who cares what happens to casey or her weirdo family. They should all be locked up imho.

Do you have an opinion of the Anthonys?:biggrin:

[crymeariver2006]

A little humor on such a devastating case as this helps people cope, imo. Those of us who went thru the Laci Peterson case bonded over some of the most humorous threads ever at court tv, they were legendary. No one felt the case was any less sad or serious because of a little humor. IMO.

I'm with Audrey - ""I love people who make me laugh. It's the thing I like most. It cures a multitude of ills." - Audrey Hepburn


The songs! The songs!

Those and the ten mile thread and letters to Scott were great!

And you're right. NOBODY forgot for one minute just how serious a case Laci's was and NOBODY here forgets how serious this one is either.

[jessjam]

Well IMO ,Cindy is the one that told the lawyer that Jesse had problems and could have killed Caylee and put her in the trunk of Casey's car....:rolleyes:

Yes I do feel sorry for the grandparents to a point. But I tell you what, if I find out that Cindy or any of the other family members are just making up stuff about other people on purpose to help Casey, then they deserve everything that is coming to them. If Jesse truley did not do anything and I really believe he did not then Cindy should get some time in Jail for trying to throw this case off the right track and making everything more confusing and in the wrong direction. That family can not twist things around and then get away with it. No Way. And if that is what they have been trying to do, it will come back to them and bite them in the a$$. You just can not make up lies about someone doing something like that and get away with it.
There have been so many lies and twisting and so forth in this family that when it comes to trial there is no way the family is going to get away with it. No Way, there is just to much crap as far as I'm concerend. The jury is not going to be stupid about it and are going to see the real truth of what is going on just like the majority of us on this board.

[Texas48]

I think Money is the most important thing in their lives. We will see. Dots
I really do not know about these people as we did not know them before this case. I would love to sit and talk to some of their neighbors or friends and get some insite as to their family unit way back when. Only probelm I might have is I have not seen any friends. At least not there giving support. I honestly do not know how they survive from day to day since neither are working. Money is probably the most important thing right now and maybe they see dollar signs after is is over....if it is ever over, Oh well...jmo as usual

[barskin&co.]

I'll bet anyone 23 cents to a doughnut that when the movie comes out (and you know one will regardless of the outcome) ole Lenny will want to play himself!! :)

I see Harry Dean Stanton! :D

[jbellaj]

and maybe a dna test?:shrug:


Now that's a very interesting thought :eek:

[Rebel Rouzer]

A little humor on such a devastating case as this helps people cope, imo. Those of us who went thru the Laci Peterson case bonded over some of the most humorous threads ever at court tv, they were legendary. No one felt the case was any less sad or serious because of a little humor. IMO.

I'm with Audrey - ""I love people who make me laugh. It's the thing I like most. It cures a multitude of ills." - Audrey Hepburn

I have to agree with this. I know from experience as well that even during the most saddest of times and frustrating times people find a way to laugh and have humor. I've attended funerals and wakes where people tend to have a moment or two where they laugh about something. This is a very sad case but there are some really humorous characters or comments/actions made whether it be from those involved or from the boards. I think it is natural to have some level of humor even in the worst of times and the worst of cases.

[joolz]

I know...it just gets stranger and stranger.

I was happy to read that there will be no more vigils at the Anthony's. IMO they just caused problems for everyone


ITA. I wish everyone except LE would just stay away from the Anthonys for awhile. It's been such a bizarre hothouse of wierdness that I wonder if anything useful about what happened to Caylee has managed to surface through all the chaos. :mad:

[nana6]

Am I behind or is there a vigil being held tonight? I really hope not because they always get rough there.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Of course the "facts" aren't entertaining, I am referring to the discussions of various aspects of the case. Every now and then there are some very witty posts and I appreciate them. I have never seen anyone actually laughing over the fact that a young life has been taken.


Again we agree.

[rosejustrose]

If you remember right after making that statement Cindy and George did spend time with LE hours on end, and then George changed his story and said he, himself was being watched. They used to spend a lot of time at LE's office, we have not heard of that in weeks.


ITA. I think the line has been drawn in the sand and LE is clearly the Anthonys' enemy at this point in time. JMO.

[joolz]

I see Harry Dean Stanton! :D

:D Fred Ward would be my pick.

[need2no]

Hi Katie. :) IMO the last few vigils have been much like Casey's rosary - for show.


I agree...and I don't think they have called the vigil off due to safety precautions. Why would they be anymore concerned about safety this week than they were last week...makes no sense. Somethings up, IMHO.

[WillowInFlight]

I'll bet anyone 23 cents to a doughnut that when the movie comes out (and you know one will regardless of the outcome) ole Lenny will want to play himself!! :)

:lol: You know it.

[barskin&co.]

Now that's a very interesting thought :eek:

I very much doubt they are doing that. Casey was texting him like mad and telling she wanted to come out there to "tell him something important." IMO she saw him as an escape from Orlando,and therefore a getaway to mask the fact Caylee was missing

[WillowInFlight]

ITA. I think the line has been drawn in the sand and LE is clearly the Anthonys' enemy at this point in time. JMO.

Or is the LE the Anthony's enemy? :D

[ann10]

A little humor on such a devastating case as this helps people cope, imo. Those of us who went thru the Laci Peterson case bonded over some of the most humorous threads ever at court tv, they were legendary. No one felt the case was any less sad or serious because of a little humor. IMO.

I'm with Audrey - ""I love people who make me laugh. It's the thing I like most. It cures a multitude of ills." - Audrey Hepburn


I so agree, Regina :seeya:

I think the humor that was here initially was lovely, and always in good taste. No one here can be accused of wanting anything but the best for Caylee or any other child.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Am I behind or is there a vigil being held tonight? I really hope not because they always get rough there.

The HOA requested Nejame (Anthony's attorney) to ask the family to cancel the vigil. It's not going to happen tonight.
The family spokesperson made an announcement on behalf of the family. Should be a link upthread or on this mornings thread.

[rosejustrose]

Ok then, So once she meets with them if you're correct and they deem there is no problem then she can give a statement. Do I have that correct?

That's just my opinion. I really don't know because no one has been able to pinpoint down why exactly she would hestitate talking to LE in the first place. JMO.

[Regina.Lampert]

That's right. There has never been laughter over the fact that this little girl is probably gone, but laughter has been introduced against the insanity of the Anthony's and their way of a lying, despicable life.

Gotta make fun sometimes just to keep from wanting to go there and hammer them!

:rose: For Caylee

Amen, wolfie!! hammer

[jbellaj]

I very much doubt they are doing that. Casey was texting him like mad and telling she wanted to come out there to "tell him something important." IMO she saw him as an escape from Orlando,and therefore a getaway to mask the fact Caylee was missing

So do you think she was going to play the game of: Mom & Dad Caylee & I moved to Ca. and tell MH that Caylee was with Mom & Dad?

[need2no]

The HOA requested Nejame (Anthony's attorney) to ask the family to cancel the vigil. It's not going to happen tonight.
The family spokesperson made an announcement on behalf of the family. Should be a link upthread or on this mornings thread.

Since when do the Anthony's take advise from anyone? I really believe there is a specific reason the vigil was cancelled and it has nothing to do with safety.

[Velouria]

Or is the LE the Anthony's enemy? :D

Of course rose is correct, Willow, since Anthonys' is a plural possessive...was that your point? :)

[rosejustrose]

I agree...and I don't think they have called the vigil off due to safety precautions. Why would they be anymore concerned about safety this week than they were last week...makes no sense. Somethings up, IMHO.

Maybe they know more serious charges are coming down the pike and Casey is going to make a run for it. JMO.

[jbellaj]

Which news station reported that TES rumor about the press announcement tomorrow? Too bad they jumped the gun and didn't get it confirmed. We all need to hear something other than NG letting LP tell us his theories.

Oh I so agree with you..:beer:

[Regina.Lampert]

Sometimes we need a bit of levity to keep our sanity! It's all a part of not being able to do anything about the situation. Most of us would just like to get a hold of Casey and shake the info out of her.

You're right Miami, so much better to have our frustrations come out in the form of humor as oppossed to complaining about each other.

[VC2]

TES would not be making that announcement until LE has first announced it to the public - as per Tim Miller himself.

yep i can see info on a presser but it will be about the help they need to get headquarters back to normal, pay for horses feed, pay for the camper if it was hit with Ike etc. Pretty sure caylee is at the bottom of the press priorities

[tiny paw-prints]

Hey Tiny Paws!!! I have been reading you too and I have a feeling that you have a theory of what happened in this case. Looking forward to hearing all about it when you're ready. :seeya:

Seriously, I'd really like to think that I have had a theory or two, three or more--about this case of Caylee's misplacement or disappearance.

It seems like everytime I think that I come near to a possible theory, something triggers into the mix of things and "my" theory gets totally sabbotaged. :hammer:

At present, I'm going with the theory that TES found something very significant on or about Sept 7 or 8th and it relates to Caylee in some way. Going with that theory, I'm hopeful the entire case will soon be revealed. Very soon. Within the next 24 hours or less.

[need2no]

Which news station reported that TES rumor about the press announcement tomorrow? Too bad they jumped the gun and didn't get it confirmed. We all need to hear something other than NG letting LP tell us his theories.


IIRC it was WFTV-Orlando, and they said the information came from a TES spokesperson they spoke with.

[rosejustrose]

I just heard a sportscaster on a football game say "ABSOLUTELY", I don't think I will ever be able to use that word again! I cannot stand the tone of her voice when she says it.

Her voice grates on my nerves like fingernails on a blackboard. It just drips with obnoxious condensation, IMO.

[joolz]

So do you think she was going to play the game of: Mom & Dad Caylee & I moved to Ca. and tell MH that Caylee was with Mom & Dad?


Wouldn't surprise me - no one said she was good at long term planning. :rolleyes:

[msjoni]

I have to agree with this. I know from experience as well that even during the most saddest of times and frustrating times people find a way to laugh and have humor. I've attended funerals and wakes where people tend to have a moment or two where they laugh about something. This is a very sad case but there are some really humorous characters or comments/actions made whether it be from those involved or from the boards. I think it is natural to have some level of humor even in the worst of times and the worst of cases.

I agree, I remember the laughs we had at the Scott Peterson case. Although we all loved Laci, we still had some fun...from what I understand this is now a big no-no???

[barskin&co.]

Can't recall who said this but, 'You're as sick as your secrets.'

Lotsa secrets and lots of sickness to go around with this bunch.

It's what we say in AA.

[Boxer]

Can't recall who said this but, 'You're as sick as your secrets.'

Lotsa secrets and lots of sickness to go around with this bunch.

dang! That's a good one. I think the Anthonys' secrets will eventually be known. We just have to be patient.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I agree, I remember the laughs we had at the Scott Peterson case. Although we all loved Laci, we still had some fun...from what I understand this is now a big no-no???


It seems that way. I don't understand the change myself.

[jbellaj]

Seriously, I'd really like to think that I have had a theory or two, three or more--about this case of Caylee's misplacement or disappearance.

It seems like everytime I think that I come near to a possible theory, something triggers into the mix of things and "my" theory gets totally sabbotaged. :hammer:

At present, I'm going with the theory that TES found something very significant on or about Sept 7 or 8th and it relates to Caylee in some way. Going with that theory, I'm hopeful the entire case will soon be revealed. Very soon. Within the next 24 hours or less.

I hope you're right...I know I would love to hear some news soon.

[Lilly12]

I would love to see justice anddignity for Caylee as well.

No I didn't know about the bags lol


Yes justice and dignity. moo

[rosejustrose]

Seriously, I'd really like to think that I have had a theory or two, three or more--about this case of Caylee's misplacement or disappearance.

It seems like everytime I think that I come near to a possible theory, something triggers into the mix of things and "my" theory gets totally sabbotaged. :hammer:

At present, I'm going with the theory that TES found something very significant on or about Sept 7 or 8th and it relates to Caylee in some way. Going with that theory, I'm hopeful the entire case will soon be revealed. Very soon. Within the next 24 hours or less.

From your keyboard to God's monitor!!!:rose:

[impartial]

It seems that way. I don't understand the change myself.


I think its about the OT criteria, rather than the humor itself.

IMO

[Regina.Lampert]

Seriously, I'd really like to think that I have had a theory or two, three or more--about this case of Caylee's misplacement or disappearance.

It seems like everytime I think that I come near to a possible theory, something triggers into the mix of things and "my" theory gets totally sabbotaged. :hammer:

At present, I'm going with the theory that TES found something very significant on or about Sept 7 or 8th and it relates to Caylee in some way. Going with that theory, I'm hopeful the entire case will soon be revealed. Very soon. Within the next 24 hours or less.

I'm with ya. Perhaps a bone and article of clothing. It made no sense at all to close up shop just when they had such a turn
out of volunteers. I think they know approximately where Caylee is and they cannot get to her because of the high water level. When that water recedes, Tim will return and find her. That's my hope.

[need2no]

Maybe they know more serious charges are coming down the pike and Casey is going to make a run for it. JMO.


Well it would certainly be easier for Casey to make a run for it if George, Cindy and Lee are preoccupied with the vigil.

I'm wondering if Lee has flown the coop and the Anthony's don't want his absence to be blatantly obvious at a vigil.

[Lilly12]

A little humor on such a devastating case as this helps people cope, imo. Those of us who went thru the Laci Peterson case bonded over some of the most humorous threads ever at court tv, they were legendary. No one felt the case was any less sad or serious because of a little humor. IMO.

I'm with Audrey - ""I love people who make me laugh. It's the thing I like most. It cures a multitude of ills." - Audrey Hepburn


I so agree.

[jbellaj]

Wouldn't surprise me - no one said she was good at long term planning. :rolleyes:


And then from there she could have made her way in to Mexico and disappear in the night. JMO

[KKKKKKatie]

Hi Katie. :) IMO the last few vigils have been much like Casey's rosary - for show.
:seeya:

I agree and targets for the protesters. Just was too much of a mess for me

[WillowInFlight]

Of course rose is correct, Willow, since Anthonys' is a plural possessive...was that your point? :)

My point was she was correct, I was just trying to see how it would look different, I messed up I was looking up something, Your point?

O/T for2 seconds anyone remember Herbert Clutter? feel free to PM me.

[Regina.Lampert]

ITA. There are a few here who often seem to find it amusing that Casey may only serve a short sentence for her financial crimes and get away with whatever she did to Caylee. I find that odd and disturbing, myself.


You're right, absolutely nothing amusing about a criminal getting away with murder.

[barskin&co.]

To get back to the Anthony’s and their part in this. Personally, it doesn't bother me that they are not physically out searching for Caylee.
What matters to me is they have done nothing, nothing to help the search. They claim that they believe Casey in her assertion that she gave Caylee to people who wouldn't give her back. Okay. Then why aren't they filling LE with the details that could help them rescue her. Where did she leave her with them? Who are they? Who else knew them? If she knew ZFG for 4 years, who introduced her? Who else did ZFG know? Who were her neighbors? There are details upon details that Casey should know and that the Anthony’s should demand that she tell them in order to find their granddaughter. Cindy knows she didn't tell them the truth. Remember what she said in the first jailhouse phone call?

"Whose fault is it you're sitting in jail?" Cindy Anthony said. "Are you blaming me you are sitting in the jail? Blame yourself for telling lies. What do you mean it is not your fault? What do you mean it's not your fault, sweetheart? If you would have told them the truth and not lied about everything…"
http://www.local6.com/news/16993169/detail.html

So why aren't they doing everything they can to supply the truthful details about Caylee's nanny so the police can bring her home? Unless, of course, they know there is no nanny, no kidnapping, and they are just protecting Casey from her crimes against their granddaughter.

[SavannahStar]

A little humor on such a devastating case as this helps people cope, imo. Those of us who went thru the Laci Peterson case bonded over some of the most humorous threads ever at court tv, they were legendary. No one felt the case was any less sad or serious because of a little humor. IMO.

I'm with Audrey - ""I love people who make me laugh. It's the thing I like most. It cures a multitude of ills." - Audrey Hepburn


I think humor crosses the line when it is hurtful to other posters, or when it is plainly "mocking" anyone connected personally to the case. And to me, that even includes the POI or suspect.

I realize I am in the minority.

I respect your opinion.

[dixielover]

i thought that the tshirts and stuff were donated - how are they selling them on their web site - does that seem right?

[rosejustrose]

I think it was called off. I have been racking my brain trying to think of places Casey could have put Caylee. Does anyone know if there is any wells in that area? Could she have put her small body in a septic tank?
Anyone got any new idea where she could have put her. I still think the dumpster is most likely where she was put it hurts me to say these things but this child needs to be found so she can rest in peace.

IMO Casey had entirely too much time on her hands during the day and I believe she used this time to scout out areas for a "disposal site". I know it's a horrible thought but I just think the decision to get rid of Caylee was a spur of the minute type of thing. JMO. And, I think the Anthonys had probably heard Casey say she wished she never had Caylee or wished she gave her up for adoption or wished she were gone. JMO but I think in dysfunctional families like their's, anything is possible. JMO.

[Boxer]

To get back to the Anthony’s and their part in this. Personally, it doesn't bother me that they are not physically out searching for Caylee.
What matters to me is they have done nothing, nothing to help the search. They claim that they believe Casey in her assertion that she gave Caylee to people who wouldn't give her back. Okay. Then why aren't they filling LE with the details that could help them rescue her. Where did she leave her with them? Who are they? Who else knew them? If she knew ZFG for 4 years, who introduced her? Who else did ZFG know? Who were her neighbors? There are details upon details that Casey should know and that the Anthony’s should demand that she tell them in order to find their granddaughter. Cindy knows she didn't tell them the truth. Remember what she said in the first jailhouse phone call?


http://www.local6.com/news/16993169/detail.html

So why aren't they doing everything they can to supply the truthful details about Caylee's nanny so the police can bring her home? Unless, of course, they know there is no nanny, no kidnapping, and they are just protecting Casey from her crimes against their granddaughter.


from day 1, I always thought that was Cindy's company personality.

[TxLady2]

Thanks, I pretty much stick with my buds here:seeya:

I saw some posts somewhere where a poster knew or was related to someone who claimed to be George's ex-wife, that's how I knew about it. She claimed he was very high-tempered and that's why the marriage ended. I don't recall Rick mentioning it, but then I didn't keep up with him that much.

[luvinlife]

I really do not know about these people as we did not know them before this case. I would love to sit and talk to some of their neighbors or friends and get some insite as to their family unit way back when. Only probelm I might have is I have not seen any friends. At least not there giving support. I honestly do not know how they survive from day to day since neither are working. Money is probably the most important thing right now and maybe they see dollar signs after is is over....if it is ever over, Oh well...jmo as usual



'IMO none of their friends or family would come forward due to the volume of media that would be calling, not to mention random people looking them up on myspace etc. I don't blame them for not wanting to come forward.

I have no idea who their friends may or maynot be, or if they have a good or a lousy relationship with them. The above could be one reason.

[rosejustrose]

To get back to the Anthony’s and their part in this. Personally, it doesn't bother me that they are not physically out searching for Caylee.
What matters to me is they have done nothing, nothing to help the search. They claim that they believe Casey in her assertion that she gave Caylee to people who wouldn't give her back. Okay. Then why aren't they filling LE with the details that could help them rescue her. Where did she leave her with them? Who are they? Who else knew them? If she knew ZFG for 4 years, who introduced her? Who else did ZFG know? Who were her neighbors? There are details upon details that Casey should know and that the Anthony’s should demand that she tell them in order to find their granddaughter. Cindy knows she didn't tell them the truth. Remember what she said in the first jailhouse phone call?


http://www.local6.com/news/16993169/detail.html

So why aren't they doing everything they can to supply the truthful details about Caylee's nanny so the police can bring her home? Unless, of course, they know there is no nanny, no kidnapping, and they are just protecting Casey from her crimes against their granddaughter.

I remember that call and what I remember most is Casey responding "It's not my fault!". OK, Casey, it's not your fault.:rolleyes:

[steffaroob4]

Note: Jesse Grund Will Be Interviewed on Nancy Grace tomorrow- Monday 9/22/08 (http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/)

[rosejustrose]

This may seem O/T but it's not. Caylee went missing before the summer started in late June. Today is the first day of fall. A whole season has passed by and no Caylee. That is just so, so terribly sad. The passing of the season and the passing of a precious little baby at the hands of her own family member.

CASEY, WHERE IS CAYLEE?


For Caylee:rose:

[barskin&co.]

I remember that call and what I remember most is Casey responding "It's not my fault!". OK, Casey, it's not your fault.:rolleyes:

Yeah! Casey thought she was in jail because Cindy called 911 to report Caylee missing, not because she had done anything wrong. ""Because I got arrested on a (expletive) whim today," she said.

[Boxer]

This may seem O/T but it's not. Caylee went missing before the summer started in late June. Today is the first day of fall. A whole season has passed by and no Caylee. That is just so, so terribly sad. The passing of the season and the passing of a precious little baby at the hands of her own family member.

CASEY, WHERE IS CAYLEE?


For Caylee:rose:

gosh, a whole summer...I hadn't thought of it in that manner. :(

[need2no]

Yeah! Casey thought she was in jail because Cindy called 911 to report Caylee missing, not because she had done anything wrong. ""Because I got arrested on a (expletive) whim today," she said.



LOL...Casey makes it sound like LE needed to meet their arrest quota for the month...goodness knows they had no legit reason to arrest HER! :rolleyes:

[jbellaj]

To get back to the Anthony’s and their part in this. Personally, it doesn't bother me that they are not physically out searching for Caylee.
What matters to me is they have done nothing, nothing to help the search. They claim that they believe Casey in her assertion that she gave Caylee to people who wouldn't give her back. Okay. Then why aren't they filling LE with the details that could help them rescue her. Where did she leave her with them? Who are they? Who else knew them? If she knew ZFG for 4 years, who introduced her? Who else did ZFG know? Who were her neighbors? There are details upon details that Casey should know and that the Anthony’s should demand that she tell them in order to find their granddaughter. Cindy knows she didn't tell them the truth. Remember what she said in the first jailhouse phone call?


http://www.local6.com/news/16993169/detail.html

So why aren't they doing everything they can to supply the truthful details about Caylee's nanny so the police can bring her home? Unless, of course, they know there is no nanny, no kidnapping, and they are just protecting Casey from her crimes against their granddaughter.


I think once they realized that Caylee is no longer alive they decided to keep up the pretense that Caylee was alive to protect Casey. I know I could never do what the Anthonys' are doing if one of my children committed such an act to one of my grandchildren. I would have encouraged them to tell the truth and spare everyone the heart ache of such a loss and take their punishment. I would still be there to show support however I would not cover up or turn a blind eye as much as it would kill me to know that my child did such a thing. JMO

I do believe this is what Mark Hackings' family did.

[luvinlife]

If any of my friends were in any trouble, I would not hesitate for a second to be there to support them regardless of what anyone wanted to look up on me.



Yes but the comments have been where are their friends and family. Well maybe we don't see them come in and out of the house, maybe we don't see GA or CA going to them. Maybe we don't see them because they speak on the phone daily. I don't know I just gave a reason as to why we may not physically see them come forward to the media.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I remember that call and what I remember most is Casey responding "It's not my fault!". OK, Casey, it's not your fault.:rolleyes:

I also remember Cindy claiming that when Casey has lied to her in the past she always came clean after being confronted by Cindy or something to that effect. I want to know when was the last time Casey lied to Cindy about being involved in her childs disappearence or death. This isn't like Casey lying to Cindy about smoking or taking gas cans.

Just like Casey telling LE that Caylee never got upset or anything even whe she had to work late or be away from her for a whole day. LE asked her when's the last time you have been away from your child for 5 weeks without seeing or talking to her?

Same needs to be asked of Cindy about Casey lying to her and then telling the truth. When's the last time Casey lied to you about her missing child?

[steffaroob4]

Note: Jesse Grund Will Be Interviewed on Nancy Grace tomorrow- Monday 9/22/08 (http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/)


I hope someone sends her an email with some good questions to get answered for us.

How often did Casey stop over for a shower?
When did Casey start talking about Zanny?

[rosejustrose]

I think once they realized that Caylee is no longer alive they decided to keep up the pretense that Caylee was alive to protect Casey. I know I could never do what the Anthonys' are doing if one of my children committed such an act to one of my grandchildren. I would have encouraged them to tell the truth and spare everyone the heart ache of such a loss and take their punishment. I would still be there to show support however I would not cover up or turn a blind eye as much as it would kill me to know that my child did such a thing. JMO

I do believe this is what Mark Hackings' family did.

I don't understand why Casey's parents are rallying around her. It's pretty obvious to me that none of them really even like each other. Someone said earlier and I agree, it's for the sake of appearances. JMO.

[jbellaj]

This may seem O/T but it's not. Caylee went missing before the summer started in late June. Today is the first day of fall. A whole season has passed by and no Caylee. That is just so, so terribly sad. The passing of the season and the passing of a precious little baby at the hands of her own family member.

CASEY, WHERE IS CAYLEE?


For Caylee:rose:

Now that hit home for me...:rose:for Caylee

[steffaroob4]

From Whispers to Roars - The Never Ending Saga of the Casey Anthony Case (http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/from-whispers-t.html)

[need2no]

I also remember Cindy claiming that when Casey has lied to her in the past she always came clean after being confronted by Cindy or something to that effect. I want to know when was the last time Casey lied to Cindy about being involved in her childs disappearence or death. This isn't like Casey lying to Cindy about smoking or taking gas cans.

Just like Casey telling LE that Caylee never got upset or anything even whe she had to work late or be away from her for a whole day. LE asked her when's the last time you have been away from your child for 5 weeks without seeing or talking to her?

Same needs to be asked of Cindy about Casey lying to her and then telling the truth. When's the last time Casey lied to you about her missing child?

That statement from Cindy is obviously not accurate unless she knew Casey was unemployed because Casey admitted it to her.

[rosejustrose]

Yes but the comments have been where are their friends and family. Well maybe we don't see them come in and out of the house, maybe we don't see GA or CA going to them. Maybe we don't see them because they speak on the phone daily. I don't know I just gave a reason as to why we may not physically see them come forward to the media.


Good points. But, it could just be they don't have true friends. Maybe they have a lot of acquaintences who would rather not get involved but no real friends or family who care enough to show support. JMO.

[Boxer]

I don't understand why Casey's parents are rallying around her. It's pretty obvious to me that none of them really even like each other. Someone said earlier and I agree, it's for the sake of appearances. JMO.

George and Cindy, IMO, can't stand each other. The other night with the bat, George was very physically improper with her. They just don't act normal.

[Rebel Rouzer]

That statement from Cindy is obviously not accurate unless she knew Casey was unemployed because Casey admitted it to her.


Which leads us back to the question. Is Cindy lying and willing to lie for Casey no matter what?

[jbellaj]

I don't understand why Casey's parents are rallying around her. It's pretty obvious to me that none of them really even like each other. Someone said earlier and I agree, it's for the sake of appearances. JMO.


Rose I don't understand it either...I'll bet my paycheck that when all is said and done there will be a huge split between all the Anthony'. Each one of them going their seperate ways. JMO

[Boxer]

Which leads us back to the question. Is Cindy lying and willing to lie for Casey no matter what?

From what I have seen so far, my honest answer to that question is yes

[TxLady2]

You are NOT wrong..Going to Catholic school and being taught by nuns they did where their rosary looped around the belt of their habits and removed them when it was time to do the rosary. I carried mine in the box that they were given to me in when I made my first holy communion. I have since then passed those to my dear DIL when I received a new rosary from Italy when I was ill 3 years ago.

I read somewhere that someone brought it to Casey and had put a cameo of some kind on it with a picture of Caylee on it. Would this still be inappropriate to wear as a necklace? I'm not Catholic, so am just asking. I do recall seeing pics of her wearing it, and I could see the cameo, (for lack of a better word) dangling from it. Maybe the lady did not explain to her how it was supposed to be used.

[rosejustrose]

Rose I don't understand it either...I'll bet my paycheck that when all is said and done there will be a huge split between all the Anthony'. Each one of them going their seperate ways. JMO


ITA and not one of them will ever visit Casey in prison or see to it that Caylee has a decent burial, with or without a body, IMO.

[pebblepup]

I'm probably alone in this theory but after listening to LE's interviews with Casey I almost believe she doesn't know where Caylee is.....NOW.

My gut tells me she did something with Caylee's body, later thinking it was not a good hiding place, went back to move the body and it was gone. Or, someone moved it for her.

[luvinlife]

Good points. But, it could just be they don't have true friends. Maybe they have a lot of acquaintences who would rather not get involved but no real friends or family who care enough to show support. JMO.



You could be right, I don't know and really none of us do. I would be there for my friends no matter what, and have been, but I am fairly sure I wouldn't be on tv if I thought it would make my life he!!.moo

[Lilly12]

Of course the "facts" aren't entertaining, I am referring to the discussions of various aspects of the case. Every now and then there are some very witty posts and I appreciate them. I have never seen anyone actually laughing over the fact that a young life has been taken.


I find some posters to be very clever and witty. I bet they are full of personalilty. I think, why didn't I think of that or say that, I am half Irish after all (the Irish are noted for their wit, I am told). Half Irish.... I guess I'm a half wit, lol. I like to smile and I like to make people smile. Love, love the one liners. moo Gold Bless Caylee, all mssing children and our troops.

[SavannahStar]

You could be right, I don't know and really none of us do. I would be there for my friends no matter what, and have been, but I am fairly sure I wouldn't be on tv if I thought it would make my life he!!.moo


That sounds logical to me, luvinlife!

[Texas48]

A little humor on such a devastating case as this helps people cope, imo. Those of us who went thru the Laci Peterson case bonded over some of the most humorous threads ever at court tv, they were legendary. No one felt the case was any less sad or serious because of a little humor. IMO.

I'm with Audrey - ""I love people who make me laugh. It's the thing I like most. It cures a multitude of ills." - Audrey Hepburn

ITA with SS and you Regina. In this case and all the other cases we have followed there was humor from time to time. I have realized in my life that one has to have a sense of humor no matter how bad things get in life. We all get very involved in these types of cases and day by day it takes a toll on our soul. I, for one, tend to find a little humor helps. Does not make any of us that feel this way have any different emotional ties to this case than those that do not believe we should have a laugh or 2. Everyone cares! JMO

[jbellaj]

I read somewhere that someone brought it to Casey and had put a cameo of some kind on it with a picture of Caylee on it. Would this still be inappropriate to wear as a necklace? I'm not Catholic, so am just asking. I do recall seeing pics of her wearing it, and I could see the cameo, (for lack of a better word) dangling from it. Maybe the lady did not explain to her how it was supposed to be used.


If I'm not mistaken you are referring to the necklace that Cindy was wearing which did have a picture of Caylee on it. She was seen wearing that the night Casey was arrested for the check charges and Baez was doing his PC. I'm talking about the rosary and it clearly is a rosary draped around Casey's neck. What you are seeing is the cross that is hanging from the rosary. That is actually were you start the rosary.

[rosejustrose]

I'm probably alone in this theory but after listening to LE's interviews with Casey I almost believe she doesn't know where Caylee is.....NOW.

My gut tells me she did something with Caylee's body, later thinking it was not a good hiding place, went back to move the body and it was gone. Or, someone moved it for her.


That is the one common thread throughout all her statements to anyone who would listen. She does not know where Caylee is. I posted earlier that she may be a black out drunk/druggie and honestly can't remember or that guy who visited her may have been speaking code letting her know that LE would never find Caylee because she had been moved. At this point, with this freaky family, anything is possible. IMO.

[need2no]

Which leads us back to the question. Is Cindy lying and willing to lie for Casey no matter what?


She has to be...there is no disputing certain facts in this case no matter how much she might want to do so. How could Cindy possibily listen to the LE interview and not know what a liar Casey is. Heck for that matter if she really didn't know Casey was unemployed for those 2 years, and she does know Casey stole from her grandparents and Amy, and took the gas cans and abandoned the car... isn't she now questioning everything else Casey has ever told her...
and wouldn't this lead to her being able to believe Casey probably murdered Caylee, even if by accident?


No job=no need for a nanny she never met or even saw a picture of.

[tiny paw-prints]

I'm with ya. Perhaps a bone and article of clothing. It made no sense at all to close up shop just when they had such a turn
out of volunteers. I think they know approximately where Caylee is and they cannot get to her because of the high water level. When that water recedes, Tim will return and find her. That's my hope.

I believe the volunteered searchers, over 1,000 people, who came to assist with TES organization found something significant enough to abruptly "pull out" when they did.

In doing so, the local investigators assigned to the case would have been immediately notified and called to the crime scene to secure it.

With the necessary manpower organized and proper equipment available to them, they may have remained at the scene to rescind the water level to retreive ALL OTHER evidence. Such an endeavor may have taken 5-7 days to accomplish, and possibly another 3-5 days to perform an autopsy.

[bluwaters]

Please light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to begin

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[Rebel Rouzer]

That is the one common thread throughout all her statements to anyone who would listen. She does not know where Caylee is. I posted earlier that she may be a black out drunk/druggie and honestly can't remember or that guy who visited her may have been speaking code letting her know that LE would never find Caylee because she had been moved. At this point, with this freaky family, anything is possible. IMO.

What about her statement to Cindy i believe that she knew where Caylee was and that she was close by? :confused:

[aubrey04]

Is it still light outside in Florida? Just curious if the cam is frozen or not. TIA.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Nevermind.. I just saw a truck pass the house. It's real time.. please disregard this msg.

[jbellaj]

ITA and not one of them will ever visit Casey in prison or see to it that Caylee has a decent burial, with or without a body, IMO.

Yes, and the only thing I feel for is Caylee....I don't care what happens to the rest of them but I sure pray that what's left of Caylee gets a proper resting place. if not at least I can take some peace to know she is sitting next to our LORD in Heaven never to be hurt again. JMO

[Boxer]

Casey has stated that Caylee is close, safe, threatened, in danger but in her gut she feels by her mommy bond that Caylee is okay. I think in her gut, Casey would like a cheeseburger and make it snappy.

[Boxer]

That was the strangest ballet. Surreal.

yeah, he's no Nureyev

[rosejustrose]

What about her statement to Cindy i believe that she knew where Caylee was and that she was close by? :confused:

I thought she said that to Lee that she felt Caylee was close not that she knew she was close and also that her gut was telling her Caylee was OK. Again, there is a lot of speculation that they were doing the Lee-Casey speak and who really knows what they may have been communicating to one another.:shrug:

JMO.

[Celiarun]

I'm with ya. Perhaps a bone and article of clothing. It made no sense at all to close up shop just when they had such a turn
out of volunteers. I think they know approximately where Caylee is and they cannot get to her because of the high water level. When that water recedes, Tim will return and find her. That's my hope.

I think so, too. Weren't the hurricanes moving toward the Gulf when Tim pulled out? His group is based in Texas. Maybe it had something to do with that?

[rosejustrose]

Is it still light outside in Florida? Just curious if the cam is frozen or not. TIA.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Nevermind.. I just saw a truck pass the house. It's real time.. please disregard this msg.

It's sunset time. See the black truck is back. Geez.

[Rebel Rouzer]

She has to be...there is no disputing certain facts in this case no matter how much she might want to do so. How could Cindy possibily listen to the LE interview and not know what a liar Casey is. Heck for that matter if she really didn't know Casey was unemployed for those 2 years, and she does know Casey stole from her grandparents and Amy, and took the gas cans and abandoned the car... isn't she now questioning everything else Casey has ever told her...
and wouldn't this lead to her being able to believe Casey probably murdered Caylee, even if by accident?


No job=no need for a nanny she never met or even saw a picture of.


I agree but what i don't get is the statement made by LE a short while back that Cindy Anthony was cooperating with LE and providing information as needed on a regular basis. Then we hear Cindy spewing things that makes no sense and claiming she believes Casey and believes Caylee is alive.

:confused:

[Boxer]

Is that the lawyer's truck if so what in the world do they have to talk about 7 days a week:shrug: i just dont get it.

I love you, I love you more, no I love you more, no I...........



hurl

[jbellaj]

She has to be...there is no disputing certain facts in this case no matter how much she might want to do so. How could Cindy possibily listen to the LE interview and not know what a liar Casey is. Heck for that matter if she really didn't know Casey was unemployed for those 2 years, and she does know Casey stole from her grandparents and Amy, and took the gas cans and abandoned the car... isn't she now questioning everything else Casey has ever told her...
and wouldn't this lead to her being able to believe Casey probably murdered Caylee, even if by accident?


No job=no need for a nanny she never met or even saw a picture of.


IMO CA is much to proud if that's the right word to use to admit she has been made a fool of by her daughter. Maybe it's her way of saving face.:shrug: who knows anymore with this family. JMO

[need2no]

Is that the lawyer's truck if so what in the world do they have to talk about 7 days a week:shrug: i just dont get it.

Might explain why the vigil was cancelled...somethings up, wish we knew what it is.

[rosejustrose]

Casey has stated that Caylee is close, safe, threatened, in danger but in her gut she feels by her mommy bond that Caylee is okay. I think in her gut, Casey would like a cheeseburger and make it snappy.


And a cold beer, I'm sure.

[rosejustrose]

Is that the lawyer's truck if so what in the world do they have to talk about 7 days a week:shrug: i just dont get it.

And they call it Puppy Love........:rolleyes:

[joint-heir]

Have we ever ascertained who the black pick-up belongs to?

[ann10]

Is that the lawyer's truck if so what in the world do they have to talk about 7 days a week:shrug: i just dont get it.


Don't tell me that's his truck.:eek:

[rosejustrose]

Dusk in Miami, web cam looks like it might be real time.

And it's not looking out of a windshield anymore.

[joint-heir]

Oh and I wanted to say thanks to Rose for the answer about Jessie's graduation....

[Boxer]

Knock it off Boxer, :punch: you're gonna get me in trouble! :D


I love you more...

[joint-heir]

Didn't think Baez picked Casey up in a truck...

[need2no]

I agree but what i don't get is the statement made by LE a short while back that Cindy Anthony was cooperating with LE and providing information as needed on a regular basis. Then we hear Cindy spewing things that makes no sense and claiming she believes Casey and believes Caylee is alive.

:confused:


After following cases for many years I always take LE's statements about people being cooperative with a grain of salt. Often those very people they stated over and over were NOT POI's and were being cooperative...are later arrested. As I'm sure you know, LE has to be very mindful of the public comments they make.

[rosejustrose]

IMO CA is much to proud if that's the right word to use to admit she has been made a fool of by her daughter. Maybe it's her way of saving face.:shrug: who knows anymore with this family. JMO


Stubborn, obstinate and bull headed all come to mind when I think of Cindy. JMO

[jbellaj]

IMO GA will split for sure but I think KC and Lee will rally around CA as much as possible. If KC gets time, CA will be there to visit as will Lee. I think GA will skip out. JMO

GA will for sure and I think Lee will too. You may be right about Cindy because if she backs away that will mean she has to accept the reality of the situation and how wrong she was in making all those ever changing statements that made her look the fool. I know one thing there is no way this family will survive this. JMO

[TxLady2]

Yes, I do. I also believe that he does not lie. He has had bad theories, the worst being Caylee was alive and he would get Casey to tell him where she was, but when he speaks of something he has actual knowledge of, I do believe him. I won't listen to his predictions, but I will listen to what he has heard with is own ears or seen with his own eyes. I certainly do not believe both he and Rob Dick are lying about this 30 day script story.

I agree. But I do listen to his theories because you never know what might be close to the truth. I don't always agree with him on them.. but I listen. One thing I noticed is that he doesn't badmouth the Anthonys... he keeps his opinions to himself. That shows a high degree of professionalism to me.

[Boxer]

Didn't think Baez picked Casey up in a truck...

I didn't either:shrug: Thought he had the conservative Mercedes sedan that sounded like a tired 4 banger when he tried to speed off the other day.

[Boxer]

<looking for the french kiss icon>

stop. I'm a tease and will only ruin your life.

[rosejustrose]

I think it is. Look in the very bottom, left hand corner.


Yup I see what looks like rain drops on a windshield.:)

[CinTN]

Note: Jesse Grund Will Be Interviewed on Nancy Grace tomorrow- Monday 9/22/08 (http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/)

Thanks for the info ,,

I just was at that link and watched the interview with Geraldo and I cannot believe that the A's are trying to pin this on him ,, WTH is the matter with these people..... hammer:flamemad::cuss:

[impartial]

I think Casey, realizing that it was still all about Caylee, did her level best to sound like a normal person would under the circumstances. She has to mimic emotions and offer up answers that might sound normal to normal people. IMO, she has to think really hard to do that, and she tries on a variety of responses to see how they play.



And yet, she has never mimicked the normal response to her child missing. She has been indignant from day one. Whose response is she mimicking?

I swear, if there wasn't the other circumstances that have come out, I would have said she has Caylee hidden away in a safe place, flipping her mother off the whole time.

IMO

[rosejustrose]

Didn't think Baez picked Casey up in a truck...
Well, there is more room in the bed of that truck than the backseat of her Beemer.barf

[Boxer]

And yet, she has never mimicked the normal response to her child missing. She has been indignant from day one. Whose response is she mimicking?

I swear, if there wasn't the other circumstances that have come out, I would have said she has Caylee hidden away in a safe place, flipping her mother off the whole time.

IMO

IMO, she has no reference to draw on. Any she has seen in the past have been people making the plea for their child's life and safety. She can't do that one so she struggles

[Amy]

Taking gift cards and money to aid a search thats not happening is wrong also.

I'm thinking maybe the searches aren't happening cuz they didn't get enough donations? (tongue in cheek.)

[Heyes]

The day humor is disallowed on here is the day I leave. Humor is a GREAT stress reliever which is sorely needed in such a terribly horrible case such as this. It would not further anyone's cause for us to wallow in the sorrow 24/7. I for one, wouldn't function well as a wife or mother if I came here just to get pulled down and took that back to my life. I don't think any of our departed would like their legacy to be nothing but doom and gloom and seriousness due to their death. I want my loved ones to live a FULL life with all the joys they could possibly get, anywhere they can get 'em.

IMOO.


Well said Ratched!
I completely agree.

Almost typed, absolutely!!!
nevah again I tell ya! lol

[curiositygal]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7481145&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Orange County deputy arrested for domestic abuse - Sheriff Kevin Beary's son-in-law

[rosejustrose]

Thanks for the info ,,

I just was at that link and watched the interview with Geraldo and I cannot believe that the A's are trying to pin this on him ,, WTH is the matter with these people..... hammer:flamemad::cuss:

Where do you want us to start?

[Boxer]

It's already in shambles. Share it with me! :rose:


I'm not a good sharer.

I've wondered a couple of times if she were not stashed. But with who? I just can't make a scenario work with everything.

[jbellaj]

Night all, stay safe and see you tomorrow. :seeya:

[Rebel Rouzer]

But ... what else is LE going to say under the circumstances? And remember that 'cooperating' isn't the equivalent of truth-telling.

You guys are right. Iguess some of my confusion about Cindy stems from my being supportive of her and George in the beginning and then I changed my mind when Cindy started making contradictory statements making it look like she was covering up for Casey or covering upinformation she has.

In the beginning I thoughtshe and george were working with LE and trying to pretend to believe and support Casey. I've since changed my mind but then I think. What If I am wrong about them?

I still think one of the Anthony's were involved somehow AFTER the fact. With what we now know about them and the case itself. I still could be wrong.

[cassidy]

OMG John McCain just said ABSOLUTELY on 60 Minutes. Help:shrug:

Ya think he's been following this case? Watching Cindy and all?

[rosejustrose]

Night all, stay safe and see you tomorrow. :seeya:

Good night:seeya:

[Velouria]

He lost me when he came up with the theory that she may have fallen off of the balcony or choked on a piece of candy. Where did such disparate theory come from? Told me he was pulling things out of thin air like anyone else might. IMO.


I thought he was pulling them from someplace else, but that's because I'm bad. :)

I wish I could take him more seriously, but he's come out with some real doozies IMO.

[panokatana]

IMO, she has no reference to draw on. Any she has seen in the past have been people making the plea for their child's life and safety. She can't do that one so she struggles

Apparently, she is a film fan... At least she could have drawn from something she'd seen... Anyone remember Golde Hawn in Spielberg's "Sugarland Express"? :shrug:

JMO

[need2no]

someone standing behind the pick up in there drive

Cam often seems to FREEZE when there is activity...:cuss:

[Amy]

From Whispers to Roars - The Never Ending Saga of the Casey Anthony Case (http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/09/from-whispers-t.html)

Interesting.

I notice "the Anthony family" requests people in FL to watch the tape to identify the attacking protesters........and they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Well, that kind of turned me off a bit. I'd be more receptive to trying to identify them (if I were in that area) if it was LE that was requesting everyone to look.

Just IMO

[bluwaters]

Sadly I hate to tell you but Florida is full of wells, sinkholes, marshy. swampy water. Fay certainly didn't help matters. Just remember that it is usually a local fisherman, jogger or construction worker that finds remains. She will be found and the House of Anthony will come down. JMO
You are so right Guitarded! People who are not looking do tend to stumble upon remains.
Do people hunt much in Central Florida? We have lots of hunters here in NW FL and with the fall comes hunting season. Hunters around here do find remains. Sometimes from recent cases, sometimes remains of someone missing for years.

:rose:

[TxLady2]

If I'm not mistaken you are referring to the necklace that Cindy was wearing which did have a picture of Caylee on it. She was seen wearing that the night Casey was arrested for the check charges and Baez was doing his PC. I'm talking about the rosary and it clearly is a rosary draped around Casey's neck. What you are seeing is the cross that is hanging from the rosary. That is actually were you start the rosary.

Thank you. I was just going by what I read on another board, and that's the reason I asked. I would never disrespect someone else's religion.

[Boxer]

You guys are right. Iguess some of my confusion about Cindy stems from my being supportive of her and George in the beginning and then I changed my mind when Cindy started making contradictory statements making it look like she was covering up for Casey or covering upinformation she has.

In the beginning I thoughtshe and george were working with LE and trying to pretend to believe and support Casey. I've since changed my mind but then I think. What If I am wrong about them?

I still think one of the Anthony's were involved somehow AFTER the fact. With what we now know about them and the case itself. I still could be wrong.


you're a good egg. nobody wants it to be true. nobody wants to think that an entire family can turn their backs on a small child. if you were not examining your position a lot, I'd wonder about you. I think everyone has their moments when a bit of info has the power to change minds. I'm not as nice a person as you are. I'm stuck on cover up conspiracy...

[Texas48]

Obviously another lie to throw off investigators. If they knew where she was wouldnt any sensible parents alert authorities? That family has no commons sense whatsoever.

It will be very interesting when we get into court for the trial and George and Cindy will have to explain all they have said once they get on the stand. It has been a circus from the start and believe it will a circus during the trial. Think back to the start with Cindys 911 call to LE and go from there. OMG.....the things that were said and the things that were not said. Pro. will have a field day with this mess. George sitting there all slumped over...Cindy with her water bottle...Caysee in her blue dress...BH with his black cowboy hat in hand since he can't wear it inside court room. On and on and on.. Court TV has to be there...Judge must allow it as ALL of us will not fit inside the court room. Would be no room for Beth.. JMO

[panokatana]

Does anyone else get the impression much of what Casey says, is somehow based on things she's read and knows maybe (in a backwards sort of way), that's how things are supposed to be? Cliches seem to be a big part of her vocabulary, too, imo.
Cindy, too, for that matter: for example, "I held her first, so she bonded with me!" I've seen it written, where immediate bonding is good (not necessarily meaning, whoever holds the child first, is the one it loves most later on; or where a child being placed for adoption sometimes isn't held by the birth mother...etc.). It's like she knows this (theory/fact), and applies it...to her situation. Seems commonplace in their communication.


JMO

[cassidy]

Interesting.

I notice "the Anthony family" requests people in FL to watch the tape to identify the attacking protesters........and they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Well, that kind of turned me off a bit. I'd be more receptive to trying to identify them (if I were in that area) if it was LE that was requesting everyone to look.

Just IMO

guess they know how to ask for the public to help. I would have been more impressed if the Anthony family in conjunction with LE had put out a composite drawing of the supposed kidnapper months ago and asked for the publics aid. They didn't do that, did they?

JMO

[sammielizabe]

to see if maybe they were nearby one of the same remote areas that Casey was in? I think this would help the investigation. IMO

[Heyes]

I would LOL you, but I've taken a vow of seriousness.

J/K! :biggrin:

heh heh

I give ya 2 minutes.



So is this truck a security guy? If so he must be a buddy of Lee or ahum, a paid buddy, who else would go there night after night and remain so useless?
Guardian Angels, cops, oh yeah and one security dude that hangs out with Casey eatting popcorn and watching their new security monitor.
Neat!

[cassidy]

I'm much more interested in trying to find Caylee, or Caylee's remains, and those who've brought about her death.

I'm much more interested in seeing a composite sketch of Zanny the nanny.

I'm much more interested in being given specific information by the Anthonys so I can get off my azz and look for Caylee.

My interest in identifying protesters is, well ... not even on the list.


Besides, Casey said her Mom got the license plate number. Casey wouldn't lie, would she?

[Boxer]

Does anyone else get the impression much of what Casey says, is somehow based on things she's read and knows maybe (in a backwards sort of way), that's how things are supposed to be? Cliches seem to be a big part of her vocabulary, too, imo.
Cindy, too, for that matter: for example, "I held her first, so she bonded with me!" I've seen it written, where immediate bonding is good (not necessarily meaning, whoever holds the child first, is the one it loves most later on; or where a child being placed for adoption sometimes isn't held by the birth mother...etc.). It's like she knows this (theory/fact), and applies it...to her situation. Seems commonplace in their communication.


JMO

to me they sound like they are trying to be something they're not. Some upper-crust loddy-da family. A cut above the norm. But they come off sounding fake.

[bchand]

He lost me when he came up with the theory that she may have fallen off of the balcony or choked on a piece of candy. Where did such disparate theory come from? Told me he was pulling things out of thin air like anyone else might. IMO.

I just came across another one of his theories today:

Leonard Padilla believes Casey wanted to move out of her parents’ house but they were too worried about Caylee’s wellbeing, so she persuaded her friends to help hide her daughter.

"They got Caylee out of town with the help of a friend or a relative. That’s why the whole time she was in jail, she didn’t seem concerned about the baby." said bounty hunter Leonard Padilla.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17253396/detail.html

[Amy]

She has to be...there is no disputing certain facts in this case no matter how much she might want to do so. How could Cindy possibily listen to the LE interview and not know what a liar Casey is. Heck for that matter if she really didn't know Casey was unemployed for those 2 years, and she does know Casey stole from her grandparents and Amy, and took the gas cans and abandoned the car... isn't she now questioning everything else Casey has ever told her...
and wouldn't this lead to her being able to believe Casey probably murdered Caylee, even if by accident?


No job=no need for a nanny she never met or even saw a picture of.

The biggest reason I believe there was no nanny is because Cindy WOULD have demanded to know WHO the babysitter/nanny is, WHERE this person lived, WHO this person associated with, HOW MUCH Casey was paying her (well,she'd kinda have to know that--Casey didn't have any money to pay her,) every single phone number that nanny would possibly be reached @ etc etc etc. CINDY is a very controlling person, and no way on God's green earth would her Caylee be in the care of someone she (Cindy) had not scrutinized in every single way. IMO

[Velouria]

Interesting.

I notice "the Anthony family" requests people in FL to watch the tape to identify the attacking protesters........and they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Well, that kind of turned me off a bit. I'd be more receptive to trying to identify them (if I were in that area) if it was LE that was requesting everyone to look.

Just IMO

I wish they'd put that much effort into seeking out the kidnappers when they themselves told us that Casey knew who had Caylee.

[joolz]

Would have been nice if they would have put out something like that for people to watch for the kidnappers.

No need for that. George said that he had people outside the normal whatever keep an eye on the kidnappers, remember? :rolleyes: I wnoder where those folks went?

[bluwaters]

on the CaseyCam -
What's the bright green stuff on the neighbor's roof?

[rosejustrose]

Interesting.

I notice "the Anthony family" requests people in FL to watch the tape to identify the attacking protesters........and they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Well, that kind of turned me off a bit. I'd be more receptive to trying to identify them (if I were in that area) if it was LE that was requesting everyone to look.

Just IMO

I recognized two of the attackers, George and Cindy "Batter Up" Anthony. JMO.

[lonetraveler]

I know that some of us are impatient waiting for LE to issue a warrant for the death of Caylee. We must be patient. If LE acts too quickly, the one who killed Caylee may go free. I watched a “City Confidential” this afternoon that covered the brutal rape and murder of a 17 year old girl who was vacationing with her best friend in Bermuda. Before the DNA results came in, the LE in Bermuda jumped the gun and one of the suspects turned state’s witness and pointed the finger at the other suspect. This state’s witness pled guilty to a lesser charge of accessory after the fact and received 5 years and was put in prison to serve the sentence. The other suspect was charged with 1st degree murder based upon the other suspect who was serving the 5 years. Well, then the DNA came back, and as you have probably guessed, the DNA proved that the man who turned state’s witness, who was serving only 5 years for accessory after the fact was the rapist and murderer. The other suspect went to trial and his defense lawyers asked that the trial be dismissed due to lack of evidence proving that this man committed the rape and murder. The judge had to let him go free because the evidence did not prove that he was involved. Since the first suspect had already pled guilty to a lesser crime and was serving his sentence, it was ruled that he could not be charged with the rape and murder due to the Double Jeopardy law. The murdered girl’s name is Rebecca Middleton. Interesting case (around 1995). Bermuda was boycotted same as Aruba.

I know this may be Off Topic, but I wanted to say “Be patient”. It is better that the LE takes their time and have all the loose ends and testing completed so that the murderer is not set free on a technicality like this. (IMO, Caylee is most likely dead)

[bluwaters]

Mary & Joseph?:shrug:

What a relief. I was afraid the alien theory might be correct after all!
*looks for alien icon*

[rosejustrose]

No need for that. George said that he had people outside the normal whatever keep an eye on the kidnappers, remember? :rolleyes: I wnoder where those folks went?

Texas, Puerto rico and Mexico.

[panokatana]

to me they sound like they are trying to be something they're not. Some upper-crust loddy-da family. A cut above the norm. But they come off sounding fake.

I tend to agree. Just a curiously odd way of speaking, Casey has, imo.

I posted a couple of days ago, but didn't notice any responses, regarding what folks thought of the way some things were worded, the seemingly inappropriate placing of 4 syllable words, the saying of one thought, then backing it up with the same thought, just worded differently..in the same sentence (Lee does that, too, it seems) ...it does seem that she is trying to be perhaps considered intellectual career woman. Oh, yeah...she was trying! ;)

Thanks for responding.

JMO

[hamebone]

The biggest reason I believe there was no nanny is because Cindy WOULD have demanded to know WHO the babysitter/nanny is, WHERE this person lived, WHO this person associated with, HOW MUCH Casey was paying her (well,she'd kinda have to know that--Casey didn't have any money to pay her,) every single phone number that nanny would possibly be reached @ etc etc etc. CINDY is a very controlling person, and no way on God's green earth would her Caylee be in the care of someone she (Cindy) had not scrutinized in every single way. IMO


That's what I think too....but does it mean she also knew Casey had no job?

[Velouria]

I recognized two of the attackers, George and Cindy "Batter Up" Anthony. JMO.


LOL

That whole mess was sooo unnecessary - on BOTH sides!

[bluwaters]

What IS that? The A's garage light is on, too.
I'm glad that I have company. It would be scary to be the only one to see it. It does look like Mary & Joseph. Early Christmas decorations?
I don't know who's walking around out front.

[pebblepup]

on the CaseyCam -
What's the bright green stuff on the neighbor's roof?

Looks like Halloween decorations, maybe?

[Heyes]

I know that some of us are impatient waiting for LE to issue a warrant for the death of Caylee. We must be patient. If LE acts too quickly, the one who killed Caylee may go free. I watched a “City Confidential” this afternoon that covered the brutal rape and murder of a 17 year old girl who was vacationing with her best friend in Bermuda. Before the DNA results came in, the LE in Bermuda jumped the gun and one of the suspects turned state’s witness and pointed the finger at the other suspect. This state’s witness pled guilty to a lesser charge of accessory after the fact and received 5 years and was put in prison to serve the sentence. The other suspect was charged with 1st degree murder based upon the other suspect who was serving the 5 years. Well, then the DNA came back, and as you have probably guessed, the DNA proved that the man who turned state’s witness, who was serving only 5 years for accessory after the fact was the rapist and murderer. The other suspect went to trial and his defense lawyers asked that the trial be dismissed due to lack of evidence proving that this man committed the rape and murder. The judge had to let him go free because the evidence did not prove that he was involved. Since the first suspect had already pled guilty to a lesser crime and was serving his sentence, it was ruled that he could not be charged with the rape and murder due to the Double Jeopardy law. The murdered girl’s name is Rebecca Middleton. Interesting case (around 1995). Bermuda was boycotted same as Aruba.

I know this may be Off Topic, but I wanted to say “Be patient”. It is better that the LE takes their time and have all the loose ends and testing completed so that the murderer is not set free on a technicality like this. (IMO, Caylee is most likely dead)

I know your right!
Breath, Heyes, Breath~
I am so impatient when it comes to liars getting their just deserts. ya know?

hustle and bustle in front of the anthony's, light on in garage, guess they're preparing for another quiet night in front of the fire, having a lovely family evening. :rolleyes:

[Boxer]

I tend to agree. Just a curiously odd way of speaking, Casey has, imo.

I posted a couple of days ago, but didn't notice any responses, regarding what folks thought of the way some things were worded, the seemingly inappropriate placing of 4 syllable words, the saying of one thought, then backing it up with the same thought, just worded differently..in the same sentence (Lee does that, too, it seems) ...it does seem that she is trying to be perhaps considered intellectual career woman. Oh, yeah...she was trying! ;)

Thanks for responding.

JMO
IMO, their way of speaking, the words and phrases they use are sometimes puzzling. where a common word works, they go for the uncommon. Even simple yes or no questions are met with absolutely or absolutely not. Seems very pretentious to me.

[cassidy]

Who is that with security dude? george?


Maybe they are getting to go on their nightly "pass out water walk"?

[rosejustrose]

Does anyone know if he has speculated on how Caylee died? I don't think he has.

I've been concerned that LP might be giving Team Casey some stories to tell come trial time. But it seems he's only floated scenarios involving a live Caylee. In order for Team Casey to use any of those scenarios, they'd have to produce a live Caylee. So I think Lenny's speculations are for the most part harmless thus far.


I thought he said she either fell off TonE's balcony or chocked on a piece of hard candy, or was it Salt Water Taffy?

[Albini]

Scoobdoo might be here for entertainment BUT I for one dont find a missing child..probably dead..entertaining. I'm here to discuss and pray she is found and justice served. Its sad anyone would find it entertaining.

ITA 100%

I come in here everday with a prayer on my lips that Caylee has been found.

I have 4 kids. I do not for a second find ANY of this ebtertaining. I find it sick and vile. It hurts every time I see no new news.

If one needs entertainment that badly then maybe cross stitch or Bingo would be more appropriate.

Using a dead/missing 3 year old as a measure of entertainment is mind boggling.

I dont want to be included in that "We all" are here for entertainment. No one but me knows why I am here. Pretending to be aware of what every one else is feeling or thinking is the very definaition of vanity IMO.

[rosejustrose]

I thought that too, then it looked like the wicked witch of the west which of course morphed into someone who I will not name.

Not me, I'm still here in front of my PC.:)

[bchand]

Maybe they are angels?:shrug:

I thought it looked like a green ghost.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Great example. He's had Caylee alive, dead, hidden, kidnapped, etc.
I don't remember the exact details of all his theories, since I tended to zone out on them after a while, but I *think* he had just as many theories on who done it, too.

Heck, *I* can do that much speculating on my magic 8 ball.


IMO Most of his theories came from the internet boards. I think maybe ONE theory came from Casey herself but that's about it. I've always felt he was odd. He MIGHT know more about this case or what went on in that house than any of us but that hasn't changed my opinion of him from the beginning.

[luvinlife]

I wish they'd put that much effort into seeking out the kidnappers when they themselves told us that Casey knew who had Caylee.



IMO I only think they thought they knew who may have had something to do with Caylee's disappearance, because at this time I believe Casey was throwing each and every friend or acquaintance under the bus. Again moo

[Boxer]

Maybe they are getting to go on their nightly "pass out water walk"?

good, I could use some.

[Amy]

I didn't either:shrug: Thought he had the conservative Mercedes sedan that sounded like a tired 4 banger when he tried to speed off the other day.

Maybe they're trying to confuse people and trick them with switcheroo cars?

[FrankieBones1]

on the CaseyCam -
What's the bright green stuff on the neighbor's roof?
Looks like a Halloween decoration. A shocking green ghost, maybe.

[rosejustrose]

I'm glad that I have company. It would be scary to be the only one to see it. It does look like Mary & Joseph. Early Christmas decorations?
I don't know who's walking around out front.


Maybe early Halloween Decorations. Or maybe the neighbors are marking their houses so the creaping fingers of death pass by their house while searching out murders on Hopespring?

[trich]

Looks like Halloween decorations, maybe?

I was thinking the same thing.

[cassidy]

collecting gift cards maybe:shrug:

Well sure. George gives out water, supporters hand over gift cards (cash is also acceptable). All the while, riling up the protesters while doing good deeds.

[ann10]

I thought it looked like a green ghost.


It looks like two green hands to me, fingers pointed at the house of horrors.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Does anyone know if he has speculated on how Caylee died? I don't think he has.

I've been concerned that LP might be giving Team Casey some stories to tell come trial time. But it seems he's only floated scenarios involving a live Caylee. In order for Team Casey to use any of those scenarios, they'd have to produce a live Caylee. So I think Lenny's speculations are for the most part harmless thus far.

Padilla commented one night he believed Caylee drowned and Casey panicked and hid the body. That came out after the chloroform deal and after we saw it posted on the boards about urine and chlorine etc.

[Boxer]

IMO Most of his theories came from the internet boards. I think maybe ONE theory came from Casey herself but that's about it. I've always felt he was odd. He MIGHT know more about this case or what went on in that house than any of us but that hasn't changed my opinion of him from the beginning.


I ignore him. IMO, he's an attention seeking big bag of hot air looking for a side to land on.

[Albini]

I'm much more interested in trying to find Caylee, or Caylee's remains, and those who've brought about her death.

I'm much more interested in seeing a composite sketch of Zanny the nanny.

I'm much more interested in being given specific information by the Anthonys so I can get off my azz and look for Caylee.

My interest in identifying protesters is, well ... not even on the list.

Edited to add ... BUT, I guess we all have our priorities.

Well said sweetie.

[Boxer]

Maybe they're trying to confuse people and trick them with switcheroo cars?


it could very well be. I admit to not watching Liar House much. I have not paid very good attention to who's in what. Black vehicles seem to be very popular though.:D

[Boxer]

But, but ... he thinks very highly of you. :biggrin:

then he deleted my emails before reading them...lol:biggrin:

[panokatana]

IMO, their way of speaking, the words and phrases they use are sometimes puzzling. where a common word works, they go for the uncommon. Even simple yes or no questions are met with absolutely or absolutely not. Seems very pretentious to me.

I think so, too. Like, when her cell phone wouldn't keep a charge..."It's, for me, not practical." Not with her highbrow job, huh?

With the inability to answer with a simple yes or no, a LDT would be pretty much useless.

JMO

[bluwaters]

I know that some of us are impatient waiting for LE to issue a warrant for the death of Caylee. We must be patient. If LE acts too quickly, the one who killed Caylee may go free. *Snipped for space, but any who missed this post will find it interesting to go back and read.*
I know this may be Off Topic, but I wanted to say “Be patient”. It is better that the LE takes their time and have all the loose ends and testing completed so that the murderer is not set free on a technicality like this. (IMO, Caylee is most likely dead)
You are correct. We are impatient, but the important thing is that nothing be done until the time is right. LE does have some time for Caylee's body to be found before they will have to act. There is no reason to jump the gun.

It is so hard to wait with Caylee gone. :(

[rosejustrose]

those 2 dudes seem engaged in a serious chat. can you imagine when they turn and see the ghosts? They may chit their pants. Ha.


What is that gold shiny thing one of them is holding up? Is that a sign?

[cassidy]

It looks like two green hands to me, fingers pointed at the house of horrors.

Maybe it's the neighbors way of retaliating? Those bright green lights shine inot Casey's windows all nite long :)

[?noanswer]

What is that gold shiny thing one of them is holding up? Is that a sign?

I think that is a light from a window. JMO

[Boxer]

I think so, too. Like, when her cell phone wouldn't keep a charge..."It's, for me, not practical." Not with her highbrow job, huh?

With the inability to answer with a simple yes or no, a LDT would be pretty much useless.

JMO

I think a LDT would be useful. She would be thrown off her path with having to answer yes or no. The moments she thought of which choice would be best would allow the heart rate to go up, the BP to go up and a nice little breaking of the sweat. She's so used to throwing flashy words that she would be on her guard and have to think alot. But that's just me.

[Margo555]

it could very well be. I admit to not watching Liar House much. I have not paid very good attention to who's in what. Black vehicles seem to be very popular though.:D

Could be the Men in Black. :eek: Sorry, it's on teevee right now. ;-)

[Rebel Rouzer]

You are correct. We are impatient, but the important thing is that nothing be done until the time is right. LE does have some time for Caylee's body to be found before they will have to act. There is no reason to jump the gun.

It is so hard to wait with Caylee gone. :(

The thing is the more time that goes by the more chance there is of evidence being lost and Caylee's remains being found in tact or at all.

This could all be over with if Casey would tell the truth or the parents would stop baying her and lying for her. Whatever else they are doing to protect Casey.

Caylee should be first priority and they can worry about Casey and her lies and their relationship with her later. IMO

[day2day]

then he deleted my emails before reading them...lol:biggrin:

lolol...you didn't....:read:

[luvinlife]

Yup, that too. I'd forgotten. Lenny needs to zip it with his theories.



Didn't he tell the myspace girl that called him that she could have fallen off the balcony at Tony's or choked on a candy

[steffaroob4]

on the CaseyCam -
What's the bright green stuff on the neighbor's roof?


Thank goodness, I thought I was going crazy, it looks like a witch flying around:confused:

[rosejustrose]

Okay ... made me look.

Any chance those are flaws or fingerprints on the camera lens?

Noooooo, that would be too boring.

[Rebel Rouzer]

You guys talking about ghosts and house of horros etc.

I just realized that little Caylee won't get to go trick or treating this year. The first one that she wuld probably have a memory of. :(

[rosejustrose]

Could be the Men in Black. :eek: Sorry, it's on teevee right now. ;-)

Nice try but these dudes are dayglo green.:biggrin:

[trich]

Oh, carp. You're right, he did. Well, if Baez starts babbling at trial about balconies and Jolly Ranchers, we'll know where he got it.




Welll the fall off balcony is really bogus IMO.
If anyone fell off the balcony believe me people would have noticed.
Not to mention the mess that it would leave even with removing the body.
That is not even logical.
Choking on a piece of candy ....well that could happen I guess
But if either one of those things happened why not call 911.
That just does not make sense.
the only reason not to call 911 IMO is that she killed her by someother means then what has been mentioned.
So that it would certainly be suspect as overdosing or killing on purpose.

[Margo555]

Nice try but these dudes are dayglo green.:biggrin:


I meant who owns all the black vehicles. ROFL

[msjoni]

I thought it looked like a green ghost.

Two green ghosts, they're freaking me out....:eek:

[rosejustrose]

Look at the black clouds over their house.


Yup, they've been there a while. Looks like a scene out of Ghostbusters, which is not, as far as I know, on TV.:D

[Amy]

No need for that. George said that he had people outside the normal whatever keep an eye on the kidnappers, remember? :rolleyes: I wnoder where those folks went?

I'm guessing they followed the kidnappers to PR, or TX or MX, wherever they took off to. Maybe they took their eyes off the kidnappers for one brief second, and they got away (the kidnappers) and George's "people" are afraid to come home and face the A's. ;)

[bluwaters]

I ignore him. IMO, he's an attention seeking big bag of hot air looking for a side to land on.
Despite the fact that I have grown fond of LP, I would tend to agree with you. The fact that LE thought it important enough to fly to CA and talk with him makes me think that he may know more than I give him credit for. His stories change whichever way the wind blows, but he has admitted to being mistaken about the case when he first bonded Casey out. His truthiness doesn't seem to be much better than the A's, but then I want to think that he is totally straight with LE and would not lie under oath.

Umm, you are talking about Lenny the BH, right?

jmho

[joint-heir]

Padilla is no worse than I am, I have tried a thousand different scenarios & none of them seem to fit!!! LOL
Looks like the goblins have come early to the cam!!

[cassidy]

Okay ... made me look.

Any chance those are flaws or fingerprints on the camera lens?

Nope, it's a rorschach ink blot test for message board users. They are studying our responses. I think they'll be coming for some of us :)