Sunday Morning 9/21

[GrannyB]

I think it makes the difference. Just that much more incentive to lie, or get creative with the truth.

Kinda like the Anthony's:confused:

[Margo555]

People who are afraid what Jesse had to say last night will insinuate he got paid. Geraldo's show is Part of Fox News. Major news organizations do NOT pay for interviews.

True Barskin and thanks for clearing that up so people can quit harping on it. Lots of people are really nervous about what he and his father have had to say. They loved that little girl dearly.

DG, you are mistaken I believe, I saw Geraldo on the seawall during Ike, not a "break wall". :rolleyes: And I've been there many times so I am pretty sure what he was on without being there and standing next to him. (scary thought) :-)

I think Jesse's interview was very good and shows him to be a caring guy. Thank Heavens he dodged a bullet by not getting tangled up with Casey. He would have made a terrific father to Caylee however. We now have seen also that Cindy's spews (and we knew them to be false anyway) that she has known Caylee is deceased all along. Wonder how this will affect their "fund" donations for searching for a lost Caylee. MOO :D Lee has been "missing" now ever since it came out and is being investigated about him taking donation money into his private Paypal account and also telling the folks to not take a lie detector test. Strange or predictable? jmho

[Acorn]

It was Patrick.

Waters and Stephanie had appointments scheduled, but never showed.

They showed....see the thingy that says Validated (other titles show Complete if the person made it through the visit alive lol)...Casey turned them away, like she did Geo and Cindy just above that, due to airing the Patrick visit.

[crymeariver2006]

Try reading for a change.

You're wrong about Waters not showing up.

http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf

Something you should try.

It was FRANK that didn't show. Patrick's visit was videotaped and broadcast on tv.

There is NO check in date for Waters, or any visit that was scheduled by the Anthonys where Casey refused to see them.

Anybody that made an appointment is listed under "Visitation Start".
Anybody that actually got to see Casey has the date under "Check In".

[rosejustrose]

And just what day do you think this search will begin? Or do you think the three people can handle it..

:shrug:


It's been going on 20+ hours a day. George is organizing and directing the searches.;)

[concernedmom]

Why do you think he's lying? What would be his motivation?

Didn't he take a lie detector test and pass that? To me he seems like the most honest one out of the whole bunch of characters! :shrug:


Jessie took a lie detector test and passed.
I believe he is the one guy in Caylee and Caseys life that did love both of them.

[?noanswer]

He took a lie detector on Geraldo last night? Oh wow, I missed that part.

No, he did not take a lie detector test. He did have the DNA test that was notorized and stated that he had 0% of being the father. JMO

[KimD]

Try reading for a change.

You're wrong about Waters not showing up.

http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf


No, YOU are wrong. Do you not see that there is NO check in time for William Waters or Stephany? All of the visits that actually happened HAVE check in times.

[Acorn]

People who are afraid what Jesse had to say last night will insinuate he got paid. Geraldo's show is part of Fox News. Major news organizations do NOT pay for interviews.

He may have had a roll of pennies for enticement...you never know.

[Fallen Angel]

Try reading for a change.

You're wrong about Waters not showing up.

http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf

wrong

i hate to say that but if you look at it he did NOT check in ....

[barskin&co.]

CASEY'S FORMER FRIENDS TAKE LIE DETECTOR TESTS

Detectives still can't shake the truth from Caylee's mom Casey, but her ex-fiancé, ex-lover and ex-best friend have talked and investigators want to make sure it's legitimate.

Sources told Eyewitness News exclusively that Casey's ex-fiancé Jesse Grund, ex-lover Ricardo Morales and ex-best friend Amy Huizenga all went through lie detector tests. Sources said they were conducted not because they were accused of anything, but to make sure detectives could confirm all the details of their stories.

Huizenga is the same friend from whom Casey's accused of stealing checks from.

Again, the Anthonys have refused to take Polygraphs. Amy, Ricardo and Jesse did.

[summer4meplz]

It was Patrick.

Waters and Stephanie had appointments scheduled, but never showed.


So on the visitors log...when it says time 10 to 10:45...that is the scheduled time? Is that correct? So if they showed up or not is not going to be on the log?

[concernedmom]

He took a lie detector on Geraldo last night? Oh wow, I missed that part.

Amy Ricardo and Jessie took LD test with LE and passed. This all came out last week scoob.

[Texas48]

I agree I would love to know what this woman has to say, and why she won't talk unless granted immunity. Be interesting to see if it's granted. This little piece of the "puzzle" has me totally confused(not that I have not been since start of case) Why...Oh why or what could this person have overheard or seen to ask for immunity before speaking to LE? This has me stumped to say the least. If she overheard something of interest why did she not tell BH? She was working for him..correct? Did she become best friends with each member of this family? Did she fall madly in love with Lee so therefore she keeps all info to herself in order to protect one of them? What piece of info could she possibly have that she needs immunity? She was a complete stranger as far as we know. Oh my goodness...This case is like no other. JMO

[rosejustrose]

I'm sure he'd get a kick out of reading such an ignorant statement. Speaking of watching. Do you think that LE reads here? Bet they'd find the lunatic who posted on craig's list and myspace.

jmo

I do think LE reads these boards. I also think they work with the owners/administrators to get IP addresses when posts concern them, JMO. For instance, if they suspected that the Anthonys were posting, I think they would try to track that day via IPs. Again, JMO. After all this is the day and age of the Internet.

[Tiger]

When you begin a sentance with "I think", its not slander. Glad I could help.
:seeya:

Mabey lies.......

[Acorn]

No, YOU are wrong. Do you not see that there is NO check in time for William Waters or Stephany? All of the visits that actually happened HAVE check in times.

:beer:

Tru dat!

[Armchairdet]

When you begin a sentance with "I think", its not slander. Glad I could help.
:seeya:

I think that whatever Casey knows (and I think she knows exactly what happened to Caylee) Lee also knows. He said on the stand in court that he was sure he could get Casey to tell him. IIRC he either said positive, or 100% sure. So, I think he knows.

[OneUp]

I don't think the Anthony's want help. They want everyone to shutup and believe what they say and go away and leave them alone. I pray that doesn't happen.ITA Granny.
You summed it up nicely thank you!
Goode morning to all. I am still praying for the light to shine into the dark and expose what is in the hearts of the wrongdoers.
Things DO seem to be coming out now, bit by bit...it seems to be that the very words said by this clan will be their undoing. I'm so sad that Caylee has been shoved to the side in their rush to make things "get back to normal"...don't they realize that things will never really be okay again?
I was dismayed to see that they had their "security" interfere with the very peaceful young woman who had all of the candles (? I think candles?)...it doesn't speak well of them at all to make a scene doing that...did anyone see what her sign said? As of last night I don't think anyone knew.
JMO.
Off to finish reading....:read:

[summer4meplz]

No, he did not take a lie detector test. He did have the DNA test that was notorized and stated that he had 0% of being the father. JMO


I thought Jessie DID take a lie detector test...not on geraldo of course...

[day2day]

I really would like to know how much money Casey stole from her family. Does anyone know?
I have heard $4,500K and $45,000K.
If the amount has ever been verified, I have missed it.

$4.5K could easily be blown by living 'high on the hog' over a short period of time- but $45.0K is a significant amount of money.
How did Casey spend her money?
I'm sure that LE has a very good idea, but other than the charges related to Amy, they haven't released anything else about it.

I think it is important to follow the money to track Casey's movements since May or earlier.

I am very glad that the A's are under pressure to account for any money that they collect as donations to for Caylee. It really burns me up that under the "volunteer" page on the Help Find Caylee site, the A's only need volunteers to donate to Caylee's fund! :flamemad:
http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/contact

*side note* The Help Find Caylee site has been updated to state that Caylee is almost 3 years old and that she has been missing since June 16 (as opposed to June 9).
http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/


I don't know the exact amout she stole from her gparents but imo $5.00 is too much. I think that Cindy will be turned in for NOT reporting her daughters theft. It is afterall elder abuse and MUST be reported to the state of Florida.

It breaks my heart that any ONE of them can profit off of little Caylee -they should be ashamed (i know ..i know)

And while they have changed the date on the site. The flyers still say July 9...go figure :shrug:

jmo

[rosejustrose]

I just checked it her picture is with Caylee, IMO.


Different spelling for the name Stephanie, no big deal, just noticed. It looks like an old picture of Caylee, IMO.

[Fallen Angel]

He took a lie detector on Geraldo last night? Oh wow, I missed that part.

NO the LE gave him a lie detector test and he PASSED......:D

[crymeariver2006]

So on the visitors log...when it says time 10 to 10:45...that is the scheduled time? Is that correct? So if they showed up or not is not going to be on the log?

Yes, that would be their scheduled time. If they showed up and actually visited Casey, the date would be noted under "Check In". If they didn't show up or Casey turned them away, it is blank under "Check IN".

[?noanswer]

So on the visitors log...when it says time 10 to 10:45...that is the scheduled time? Is that correct? So if they showed up or not is not going to be on the log?

There is a place just below the scheduled time that says "check in". I think if they actually visited that information would be completed.

IIRC Casey stopped all visits except family and eventually cancelled most of their scheduled visits also. JMO

[Fallen Angel]

I'm sure they are following the advice of their attorney.

actually NO they were following the advice of their SON......lee told them not to take it. at first they said yes and then lee freaked out and said NO they would not take it.........:shrug:

[OneUp]

It wouldn't be in the county clerk records I don't believe. Bankruptcy goes through U.S. Courts. They are in Middle District of FL, that is where the info would be. I go through the pacer govt. website; the BK info is public record. However it has been a while since I have been on that site and I had to apply for a new password. I only tried yesterday and apparently they don't do anything with new requests over the weekend.I'm not sure one Florida law, but in KS. and over in Mo. you must have a public notice of bankruptcy printed in the newspaper...usually in the classifieds. I think it is done to give creditors notice so they have time to contest or to get their share of any asset liquidation. I'm not sure though, I have just seen the notices and asked my DH about them.
JMO.

[WillowInFlight]

who do you think it will be? who do you think they will try to transfer blame onto?

I do agree with DG about it will be interesting to see who else along with Casey goes down in the sinking ship, I have no doubt Casey will have company. Though in no way do I think Jesse had anything to do with Caylee being missing.

[GrandmaGA]

I think if you will read it again, you will find out that you are wrong, as was I. JMO
It shows he was there for 7 to 7:45. Are you saying the visit log is wrong?

[impartial]

This little piece of the "puzzle" has me totally confused(not that I have not been since start of case) Why...Oh why or what could this person have overheard or seen to ask for immunity before speaking to LE? This has me stumped to say the least. If she overheard something of interest why did she not tell BH? She was working for him..correct? Did she become best friends with each member of this family? Did she fall madly in love with Lee so therefore she keeps all info to herself in order to protect one of them? What piece of info could she possibly have that she needs immunity? She was a complete stranger as far as we know. Oh my goodness...This case is like no other. JMO



Somewhere along the line, I missed this coming out. Who reported that she wanted immunity prior to talking with LE? And when was that reported?

TIA

[spiritwolf46]

Try reading for a change.

You're wrong about Waters not showing up.

http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf


TRY READING FOR A CHANGE???? How rude and totally insulting! :flamemad:

[Margo555]

Something you should try.

It was FRANK that didn't show. Patrick's visit was videotaped and broadcast on tv.

There is NO check in date for Waters, or any visit that was scheduled by the Anthonys where Casey refused to see them.

Anybody that made an appointment is listed under "Visitation Start".
Anybody that actually got to see Casey has the date under "Check In".

Thanks for straightening that miss info out from her. I was questioning my sanity since I watched that interview. :rolleyes:

[concernedmom]

The danger in believing Geraldo or anything that he produces is that until anything is verified by LE, it isn't factual that Jesse took a LDT.

I agree with you though, he really did love them both as did his entire family. I think Casey wanted him to be the father for obvious reasons, one of which she admired and was accepted so easily by his family.


I wish she would have stayed with Jessie. I get the feeling its the only time Casey has ever been a part of a loving and stable home.

[Armchairdet]

I'm not sure one Florida law, but in KS. and over in Mo. you must have a public notice of bankruptcy printed in the newspaper...usually in the classifieds. I think it is done to give creditors notice so they have time to contest or to get their share of any asset liquidation. I'm not sure though, I have just seen the notices and asked my DH about them.
JMO.

You are correct. I believe I have seen them in Florida. IMO

[joolz]

Something you should try.

It was FRANK that didn't show. Patrick's visit was videotaped and broadcast on tv.

There is NO check in date for Waters, or any visit that was scheduled by the Anthonys where Casey refused to see them.

Anybody that made an appointment is listed under "Visitation Start".
Anybody that actually got to see Casey has the date under "Check In".

Well, as bookclubfan says, don't believe rumors posted here. ;) Also, don't believe incorrect statements about references that are presented as fact (Strunk & White is a good if boring source). JMO of course. :D

[desmom]

It's just the scheduled 45 min appt time.

If they visited it's recorded under "Check In"


I agree.

Per http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf George & Cindy were scheduled to visit Casey on 7/29/08 at 9:00 a.m. There is no check in time listed.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17014164/detail.html reported they did not get to see her because she had been moved to the Orange County Courthouse for a hearing.

jmo

[?noanswer]

This little piece of the "puzzle" has me totally confused(not that I have not been since start of case) Why...Oh why or what could this person have overheard or seen to ask for immunity before speaking to LE? This has me stumped to say the least. If she overheard something of interest why did she not tell BH? She was working for him..correct? Did she become best friends with each member of this family? Did she fall madly in love with Lee so therefore she keeps all info to herself in order to protect one of them? What piece of info could she possibly have that she needs immunity? She was a complete stranger as far as we know. Oh my goodness...This case is like no other. JMO


Maybe she wants protection because JB probably said she couldn't ask ? the same way as he restricted the BH. JMO

[barskin&co.]

It shows he was there for 7 to 7:45. Are you saying the visit log is wrong?

No, it says he was scheduled. Ever checkin/out is in 45 minute increments. The visit as never made.

[crymeariver2006]

It shows he was there for 7 to 7:45. Are you saying the visit log is wrong?


That was his allotted appointment time.

[summer4meplz]

actually NO they were following the advice of their SON......lee told them not to take it. at first they said yes and then lee freaked out and said NO they would not take it.........:shrug:

and of course, THAT depends on if you believe Lenny....,..could it get any more twisted...

[day2day]

actually NO they were following the advice of their SON......lee told them not to take it. at first they said yes and then lee freaked out and said NO they would not take it.........:shrug:

Casey-works for Universal
Lee -is an attorney..
:lol:

jmo

[Texas48]

Oh no, not this game again. You continue this less then steller pattern on every board here. Always pretending to be in the know when the truth is you don't know any more than we do. I think it is unfair to the posters here for you to continue this bad habit by sucking them into your childish game.

I noticed you ignored joolz because she caught on to the fact you copied from another board and failed to disclose that.

jmo

:no: If this case is not confusing enough then I read this and get more confused cause I have no idea what this post is about and what it has to do w/thi case. Can someone explain please? Makes one think they are missing parts of the case.

[GrandmaGA]

Its funny how Padilla was a untrustworthy liar when he was doing things the mass didn't like, but once he starts talking badly of the Anthony's, suddenly he becomes God, and his word is the bible.
:rolleyes:

Yeah i find that quite telling.

[st777jo]

Try reading for a change.

You're wrong about Waters not showing up.

http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf

Want to borrow my glasses. Waters NEVER checked in.

[concernedmom]

I do agree with DG about it will be interesting to see who else along with Casey goes down in the sinking ship, I have no doubt Casey will have company. Though in no way do I think Jesse had anything to do with Caylee being missing.


Casey is toxic. No doubt about it. Look at the lives already ruined by her. I think the only thing Jessie is guilty of was loving Casey & Caylee. But yes. We may all be surprised at who goes down with her.
I think Lee will be one of them.

[marshmallow]

Transfer blame?!?

You're giving the Anthonys a lot more power than they're really able to muster. lol




Transferrence of blame is common in cases where the defendant is trying to avoid the blame blanket themselves. I was unaware that I was using the phrase wrong.

I've politely asked you several times to add to your comments so I can understand your thinking and possibly change my own thoughts. You continously avoid doing so. I get the hint. I won't ask any more.

[impartial]

I think it was Padilla.


If Padilla was the source of this information ... next.


Thanks Scooby.

IMO

[Velouria]

If this case is not confusing enough then I read this and get more confused cause I have no idea what this post is about and what it has to do w/thi case. Can someone explain please? Makes one think they are missing parts of the case.


Believe me Texas, you didn't miss ANYTHING. Just the same ol' from the usual suspect.

[GrandmaGA]

That was his allotted appointment time.

if it was only his allotted time then why did the log not put "did not show" in big red letters like it did for frank bourgeous? :shrug:

[?noanswer]

It shows he was there for 7 to 7:45. Are you saying the visit log is wrong?


No, he was scheduled for that time, but if you look below that it says "check in"/"check out". That information is not completed. JMO

[rosejustrose]

Kinda like the Anthony's:confused:


:lol: Good one. And we all know how they're getting "paid":eek:

www.helpfindcaylee.com

JMO

[Armchairdet]

Probably knew they wouldnt pass it. Innocent people dont hide things. IMO



IMO Lee said no not because they would not pass, but because it would look odd if they took LD test's, and he refused, and I believe Lee knew HE would not pass.

[day2day]

Probably knew they wouldnt pass it. Innocent people dont hide things. IMO

IMO if they were really interested in finding Caylee -they would have done this first thing. Many people have in the past. Makes it easier on LE.....

justa thought! jmo

[Regina.Lampert]

Something you should try.

It was FRANK that didn't show. Patrick's visit was videotaped and broadcast on tv.

There is NO check in date for Waters, or any visit that was scheduled by the Anthonys where Casey refused to see them.

Anybody that made an appointment is listed under "Visitation Start".
Anybody that actually got to see Casey has the date under "Check In".

You can't make it any clearer then that. So, let's all hold our breath for DaddysGirl to do the appropriate thing here and apologize. :cool:

[joolz]

IMO Lee said no not because they would not pass, but because it would look odd if they took LD test's, and he refused, and I believe Lee knew HE would not pass.

Interesting theory. Do you think that Lee knew the truth (or some version of it) early on, and that CA and GA learned it later?

[barskin&co.]

Look at the visitor logs. If the visit took place the status says "Completed." If it was only scheduled, the status is "Validated."
http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf

The Waters visit was scheduled for 7/29 and didn't take place. Patrick Bourgeois' completed visit was on 7/24 (Frank Bougeois was a no-show)

To recap:

Casey's visitor:
Casey Anthony's Unexpected Jailhouse Visitor
On July 24, Casey Anthony received a suprise visit from Patrick Bourgeois, a man who claimed to attend high school with her. Casey had trouble remembering who he was and had little to say during their conversation, which lasted less than 2-minutes.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/audio-from-case.html

Lie dector tests
CASEY'S FORMER FRIENDS TAKE LIE DETECTOR TESTS

Detectives still can't shake the truth from Caylee's mom Casey, but her ex-fiancé, ex-lover and ex-best friend have talked and investigators want to make sure it's legitimate.

Sources told Eyewitness News exclusively that Casey's ex-fiancé Jesse Grund, ex-lover Ricardo Morales and ex-best friend Amy Huizenga all went through lie detector tests. Sources said they were conducted not because they were accused of anything, but to make sure detectives could confirm all the details of their stories.

Huizenga is the same friend from whom Casey's accused of stealing checks from.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html

And who hasn't taken LDTs? The Anthonys.

[concernedmom]

If Padilla was the source of this information ... next.


Thanks Scooby.

IMO


I think this would be in Wed or Thur NG transcripts. LE flew out to question Padilla and wanted to talk to the woman too. It was to take place thur night. But there were concernsince the woman didnt go to LE before she left FL if she talked now they could get her for withholding or something. fri morning the woman was going to talk to her bosses about it. Havent heard if they questioned her.

[Fallen Angel]

Its funny how Padilla was a untrustworthy liar when he was doing things the mass didn't like, but once he starts talking badly of the Anthony's, suddenly he becomes God, and his word is the bible.
:rolleyes:

LOL you are really off base. i do not believe Padilla's God or his words are in the bible.

why are you so mean to people?


i believe padilla more then i do the Anthony's . nothing more.

[panokatana]

CASEY'S FORMER FRIENDS TAKE LIE DETECTOR TESTS

Detectives still can't shake the truth from Caylee's mom Casey, but her ex-fiancé, ex-lover and ex-best friend have talked and investigators want to make sure it's legitimate.

Sources told Eyewitness News exclusively that Casey's ex-fiancé Jesse Grund, ex-lover Ricardo Morales and ex-best friend Amy Huizenga all went through lie detector tests. Sources said they were conducted not because they were accused of anything, but to make sure detectives could confirm all the details of their stories.

Huizenga is the same friend from whom Casey's accused of stealing checks from.

Again, the Anthonys have refused to take Polygraphs. Amy, Ricardo and Jesse did.

It seems (IMO) Lee knows his family pretty well, to advise them against the LDT. We (the television viewers) have seen mistruths time and again, even for things that don't seem really necessary to lie about (for example, Casey completing high school.)

They don't seem able, either, to answer with a simple YES or NO. I imagine there would be massive chaos for the police when comparing old answers to LDT answers. What if NONE of the stories matched each other (Cindy's not matching George's, etc.) none of the dates, the description of the monkey back pack, what Caylee and Casey were wearing, etc.

JMO

[Armchairdet]

Interesting theory. Do you think that Lee knew the truth (or some version of it) early on, and that CA and GA learned it later?

I believe he knew most of it, if not all of it on the night Casey was arrested. Whatever he did not know then, he was able to surmise. Confirmation would have come from jail calls, visits, and upon her return home. Remember their talk in his car in the driveway?

Also talking code...


And he said on the stand they shared everything, and he could get her to tell him everything for sure.

[Boxer]

Its funny how Padilla was a untrustworthy liar when he was doing things the mass didn't like, but once he starts talking badly of the Anthony's, suddenly he becomes God, and his word is the bible.
:rolleyes:



no, he's still an untrustworthy liar. :rolleyes:

[WillowInFlight]

Casey is toxic. No doubt about it. Look at the lives already ruined by her. I think the only thing Jessie is guilty of was loving Casey & Caylee. But yes. We may all be surprised at who goes down with her.
I think Lee will be one of them.

I was thinking about the lies that Cindy told on the stand, but then I was also thinking can they be considered lies if what she said she believed to be the truth because it was what Casey told her? Now Lee I think is another Story, I think what ever Casey told him was the truth. Does that make sense? I need more coffee.

[Fallen Angel]

Patrick is the ONLY one marked as DID NOT SHOW, but Waters did show.

Let them believe their untruths if they wish. :)

Yes he showed, so did her parents and they were TURNED AWAY. gesh you have such a hard head lol imo

[?noanswer]

You can't make it any clearer then that. So, let's all hold our breath for DaddysGirl to do the appropriate thing here and apologize. :cool:

I'm turning blue, can I breath now? She won't give in. JMO

[aubrey04]

here Geraldo's interview last night


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS55WkNra7M


OMG he's calling the family NUTTY :eek:

Also, he said Casey was "slutting around".. and called her a "disco queen"..lol.

Here is what is said about Cindy trying to pin the murder on Jesse:

Geraldo: Have you heard.. what we have heard.. that Cindy Anthony is spreading the word that you are somehow responsible for the death of this child, Caylee Anthony and that you stuffed this childs dead body in Casey Anthony's trunk to frame your former fiancee

Jesse: Yes, I have heard that. I'm aware of that.

Geraldo: And your response to that?

Jesse: Ridiculous. Ludicrous. I had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance at all.

...then the DNA test is revealed - he is NOT Caylee's father.

[rosejustrose]

The danger in believing Geraldo or anything that he produces is that until anything is verified by LE, it isn't factual that Jesse took a LDT.

I agree with you though, he really did love them both as did his entire family. I think Casey wanted him to be the father for obvious reasons, one of which she admired and was accepted so easily by his family.

Eyewitness News broke the story about the LDTs, not Geraldo.

JMO.

[marshmallow]

LOL you are really off base. i do not believe Padilla's God or his words are in the bible.

why are you so mean to people?


i believe padilla more then i do the Anthony's . nothing more.




I'll go one step further and say that at no point have I put any weight on Padilla's words. Casey's actions themselves are what I've focused on. Padilla came into the story, he wasn't there from the start. Only Casey was.

[Fallen Angel]

It shows he was there for 7 to 7:45. Are you saying the visit log is wrong?

that was the time he was suppose to have his visit he did NOT CHECK IN or OUT........

that was the day that Casey turned away her parents and him.

[day2day]

no, he's still an untrustworthy liar. :rolleyes:

The difference between Padilla and the Anthony's?
Lenny put up $50,000 of his OWN money for Caylee..
The Anthonys have collected much more than that offa caylee...


jmo...

[Boxer]

I was thinking about the lies that Cindy told on the stand, but then I was also thinking can they be considered lies if what she said she believed to be the truth because it was what Casey told her? Now Lee I think is another Story, I think what ever Casey told him was the truth. Does that make sense? I need more coffee.

Cindy was emotional and weepy during her testimony until the state questioned her. She immediately went from emotional mom to tough mom in a moment. What.....a whirlwind as Chelsea Handler says.

[Fallen Angel]

I'll go one step further and say that at no point have I put any weight on Padilla's words. Casey's actions themselves are what I've focused on. Padilla came into the story, he wasn't there from the start. Only Casey was.

ITA..........i'm NOT saying LP's an 100% honest man im just saying i believe him MORE then i believe the Anthony's. He has NO reason to lie, they do imo

[joolz]

I believe he knew most of it, if not all of it on the night Casey was arrested. Whatever he did not know then, he was able to surmise. Confirmation would have come from jail calls, visits, and upon her return home. Remember their talk in his car in the driveway?

Also talking code...


And he said on the stand they shared everything, and he could get her to tell him everything for sure.

I remember that talk in the car being noted on this thread, and I've listened to the jailhouse "code" talk. At the very beginning of all this I thought Lee might be the only stand-up member of that family, and might have actually been trying to get information out of Casey in order to help LE, but that hope has loooooong since vanished. ITA with your assessment.

[Fallen Angel]

Sources told Eyewitness News exclusively that Casey's ex-fiancé Jesse Grund, ex-lover Ricardo Morales and ex-best friend Amy Huizenga all went through lie detector tests.

LOL

jesse said he took one, did he lie? IF he did i hope the LE charge him.

[spiritwolf46]

Sources told Eyewitness News exclusively that Casey's ex-fiancé Jesse Grund, ex-lover Ricardo Morales and ex-best friend Amy Huizenga all went through lie detector tests.

LOL

ANNNNNND your point? LOL!

[Fallen Angel]

The difference between Padilla and the Anthony's?
Lenny put up $50,000 of his OWN money for Caylee..
The Anthonys have collected much more than that offa caylee...


jmo...

wow now ain't that the truth :beer:

[Fallen Angel]

ANNNNNND your point? LOL!

well you know DG wants the LE to come out and tell HER everything lol

[rosejustrose]

TRY READING FOR A CHANGE???? How rude and totally insulting! :flamemad:

Especially when she was wrong in the first place. He never check in for a visit because he either didn't show up or because that was during the time Casey was refusing visits. Geez.:rolleyes:

[Regina.Lampert]

I'm turning blue, can I breath now? She won't give in. JMO

Yes, take a breath and notice that she's now attempting to twist and spin. No credibility in anything they post, imo.

Thanks to all who came onboard and straightened out her inaccurate postings about the matter. :beer:

[Velouria]

LOL you are really off base. i do not believe Padilla's God or his words are in the bible.

why are you so mean to people?



Yes, some people should realize that hate breeds hate. IMO

[TxLady2]

Somewhere along the line, I missed this coming out. Who reported that she wanted immunity prior to talking with LE? And when was that reported?

TIA

I think the immunity thing is wrong. I believe LP said that her lawyer advised her not to speak to the FBI until she cleared it with OCSD. There might have been a confidentiality agreement while she was still a security guard, and couldn't report anything she saw or overheard while she was still in FL. Once she was back in CA, that agreement is null and void. But her obligation is to speak to the investigative agency in charge of the case first, before she talks to FBI.
I may be way off here, but this is what I gleaned from listening to LP and from legal eagles who explained it.

[Sharmayla]

Hi everyone -
I have a question. I hope it's not a stupid one: Those of you who say George and Cindy are lying, how do you know they're lying? I couldn't say without a doubt that they're lying. Maybe they BELIEVE what they're saying is the truth? Like when someone asks "Do you believe me?", and you say "I believe that you believe it's the truth." Ya know?

[Boxer]

The difference between Padilla and the Anthony's?
Lenny put up $50,000 of his OWN money for Caylee..
The Anthonys have collected much more than that offa caylee...


jmo...

he may have..but I have found his agenda weird from day one. If you start googling his name you find all kinds of creepy things he has done and said to keep his name out there in the media. Like offering his property to a convicted child predator who went to prison for the molestation of two 9 year old boys. Yeah, I doubt Lenny's motives were pure.

[desmom]

if it was only his allotted time then why did the log not put "did not show" in big red letters like it did for frank bourgeous? :shrug:


IMO, because Frank & Patrick were scheduled to visit during the same time period, 9:00 a.m. - 9:45 a.m. Patrick showed and Frank did not.

[Margo555]

Patrick is the ONLY one marked as DID NOT SHOW, but Waters did show.

Let them believe their untruths if they wish. :)

Well, this is getting really silly so I'll end this now.
Here is a little linky for you DG. MOO

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/audio-from-case.html

[Cury-us Coyote]

I thought that was patrick in the released video>> are you saying that was william waters?

Perhaps wearing some awesome makeup?
jmo

[spiritwolf46]

Especially when she was wrong in the first place. He never check in for a visit because he either didn't show up or because that was during the time Casey was refusing visits. Geez.:rolleyes:

Yep, and when that was proven, she has no apology. Typical.

[GrandmaGA]

Patrick is the ONLY one marked as DID NOT SHOW, but Waters did show.

Let them believe their untruths if they wish. :)


I really dont understand how they can argue it but I guess they just will not believe their own eyes if they choose not to. :shrug:

[Velouria]

Cindy was emotional and weepy during her testimony until the state questioned her. She immediately went from emotional mom to tough mom in a moment. What.....a whirlwind as Chelsea Handler says.


She was combative from the minute the prosecutor opened her mouth. You would've thought it was Casey's murder trial, and not a simple bond hearing.

[Tiger]

Yes, take a breath and notice that she's now attempting to twist and spin. No credibility in anything they post, imo.

Thanks to all who came onboard and straightened out her inaccurate postings about the matter. :beer:

True...and anyone who was in the "know" would of clearly known who showed and who didn't. They would also know how to read a log at the jail.....:shrug:

[day2day]

wow now ain't that the truth :beer:

Sad but true Fallen. Something else i have noticed. He hasn't mentioned the $50,000...in DAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS-maybe someone has collected. JMO

[rosejustrose]

Its funny how Padilla was a untrustworthy liar when he was doing things the mass didn't like, but once he starts talking badly of the Anthony's, suddenly he becomes God, and his word is the bible.
:rolleyes:

How did you arrive at that conclusion? IMO, there has been posts, many posts, warning to take LPs comments with a grain of salt.:rolleyes:

[greylover]

snipped:

Greta had phone records? I haven't seen Greta do anything on legal issues (except a little thing on OJ, I think), since Palin became her new thing. I'm disappointed in Greta. She's great at whatever she does, but now she's just repeating whatever Hannity and Colmes and everybody else does, except for her interview with the "First Dude" in Alaska. I so wish she'd stick with the legal stuff we're so interested in. I watch NG, but always look to Greta and her panel to really flesh out things a little deeper.

Hi Sofiesmom - good to see you! What is up with Greta? If I want to watch politics, I would watch CNN. I think Greta has one of the most informative, and ACCURATE shows on legal cases, and each time I turn her on lately - politics politics politics!!

I totally agree that she needs to stick with the legal stuff - I miss her show totally!!

Not sure if you're still here...........

jmo

[joolz]

Yes, take a breath and notice that she's now attempting to twist and spin. No credibility in anything they post, imo.

Thanks to all who came onboard and straightened out her inaccurate postings about the matter. :beer:


It's kind of like the Anthony behavioral model: when caught in a lie, divert, spin, mock and accuse, but nevernevernever admit the lie. Or more kindly, the innacuracy. ;) JMO of course.

[WillowInFlight]

I think the immunity thing is wrong. I believe LP said that her lawyer advised her not to speak to the FBI until she cleared it with OCSD. There might have been a confidentiality agreement while she was still a security guard, and couldn't report anything she saw or overheard while she was still in FL. Once she was back in CA, that agreement is null and void. But her obligation is to speak to the investigative agency in charge of the case first, before she talks to FBI.
I may be way off here, but this is what I gleaned from listening to LP and from legal eagles who explained it.
It was on NG a couple of times last week stating she was asking for immunity.

[GrandmaGA]

Well, this is getting really silly so I'll end this now.
Here is a little linky for you DG. MOO

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/audio-from-case.html

Ok, the blog "linky" is right and the official log in is wrong. :rolleyes:

[impartial]

LOL you are really off base. i do not believe Padilla's God or his words are in the bible.

why are you so mean to people?


i believe padilla more then i do the Anthony's . nothing more.


I don't believe Padilla at all.

He has egg all over his face.

IMO

[Acorn]

I agree.

Per http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf George & Cindy were scheduled to visit Casey on 7/29/08 at 9:00 a.m. There is no check in time listed.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17014164/detail.html reported they did not get to see her because she had been moved to the Orange County Courthouse for a hearing.

jmo

Ahhh TY I was looking for that.

[spiritwolf46]

How did you arrive at that conclusion? IMO, there has been posts, many posts, warning to take LPs comments with a grain of salt.:rolleyes:

There sure have been. Also there have been posts about how he has spun stories over and over again.

BUT...his word IS THE BIBLE! :lol:

[Fallen Angel]

It's kind of like the Anthony behavioral model: when caught in a lie, divert, spin, mock and accuse, but nevernevernever admit the lie. Or more kindly, the innacuracy. ;) JMO of course.

ITA whatever behavior disorder the Anthony's have must have spread to a few on here ......imo

[rosejustrose]

Somewhere along the line, I missed this coming out. Who reported that she wanted immunity prior to talking with LE? And when was that reported?

TIA


:shrug:Me, too. Why would she need immunity? Baez has no authority to restrict her rights. She was in the Anthony home protecting the interests of the BH. IMO, he had a lot riding on her NOT skipping bail. Having someone with her 24/7 was his way securing his investment. Too bad if the blabbermouths couldn't keep quiet and she overheard something. Still doesn't explain the need for immunity, IMO. Unless, of course, she became aware of a crime and failed to report it to LE.

Impartial, you're an attorney, what are your thoughts? TIA

[barskin&co.]

It's kind of like the Anthony behavioral model: when caught in a lie, divert, spin, mock and accuse, but nevernevernever admit the lie. Or more kindly, the innacuracy. ;) JMO of course.

Exactly!

Casey Anthony's Unexpected Jailhouse Visitor
On July 24, Casey Anthony received a suprise visit from Patrick Bourgeois, a man who claimed to attend high school with her. Casey had trouble remembering who he was and had little to say during their conversation, which lasted less than 2-minutes.

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/audio-from-case.html

Click on the above link and you can hear the visit Patrick Bougeois made to Casey on July 24.

[joolz]

ITA whatever behavior disorder the Anthony's have must have spread to a few on here ......imo

Exactly. ;)

[Boxer]

I don't believe Padilla at all.

He has egg all over his face.

IMO

and pizza sauce from the pizza delivered compliments of some bloggers or boarders...

[trich]

IMO Lee said no not because they would not pass, but because it would look odd if they took LD test's, and he refused, and I believe Lee knew HE would not pass.

I don't believe for a minute that Cindy and George would pass a lie detector test.
Not unless they changed their tune from what they have said publically.
If Lee has been taking the money from the trust fund I hope he goes down big time.

[aubrey04]

Sean Krause is the lead writer/developer of TheDailyBS.com. Krause, or "The Krause", gained status as an established writer through various news stories and his involvement in them. Most recently, he was involved in the Caffey murder investigation. When not writing for TDBS.com or MurderedOne.com, Krause is an avid karaoke singer & is currently undergoing chemo treatment for cancer.

I was on thedailybs constantly during the Caffey case. He will dig deep to get info. He traveled to Texas and spent over a week there getting info for the Caffey case.

He has posted on here, under Skrause (i believe).. and he's on myspace. I saw him on a myspace chatroom that is dedicated to Caylee/Casey Anthony.

[marshmallow]

Ok, the blog "linky" is right and the official log in is wrong. :rolleyes:



now I'm confused and on cold meds so let's dumb it down for me.



up until now, at any point when Casey was in jail, who visted with her and was able to talk to her?
can you list them for me please. I think people are getting all twisticated on words.
Who went to the jail and spoke with Casey? not who was scheduled to or who showed up and was turned away, or who never showed. Who actually went physically and spoke with her while she was in jail? ( seperate list of calls made to/from her would be great too)

[impartial]

I think the immunity thing is wrong. I believe LP said that her lawyer advised her not to speak to the FBI until she cleared it with OCSD. There might have been a confidentiality agreement while she was still a security guard, and couldn't report anything she saw or overheard while she was still in FL. Once she was back in CA, that agreement is null and void. But her obligation is to speak to the investigative agency in charge of the case first, before she talks to FBI.
I may be way off here, but this is what I gleaned from listening to LP and from legal eagles who explained it.


Thanks TX ... A confidentiality agreement with whom? I've never heard of a confidentiality agreement that the validity is dependant on borders.

Totally confused, but thanks for trying to fill me in. Much appreciated.

IMO

[concernedmom]

Anyone care for a group hug?:D

I can not wait for the TES PC that will surprise us tomorrow. I can not imagine any thing at this point being a surprise but a live Caylee and I dont think thats it.

[TxLady2]

How did you arrive at that conclusion? IMO, there has been posts, many posts, warning to take LPs comments with a grain of salt.:rolleyes:

Love him or hate him... it don't matter. But he has done more and is still doing more to solve this case than anyone except LE are doing, and that includes the idiot protestors who bang on garage doors and throw rocks at their windows in the middle of the night!
He lost his initial $50,000... and he STILL investigates it.

[barskin&co.]

Ok, the blog "linky" is right and the official log in is wrong. :rolleyes:

The official log says Patick Bougeois visited Casey on July 24, just as the blog says. And by the way, the blog has a recording of the visit. The official log says a visit from Waters was scheduled for July 29, but the status is not "completed," which means the visit didn't take place.

[Armchairdet]

I don't believe for a minute that Cindy and George would pass a lie detector test.
Not unless they changed their tune from what they have said publically.
If Lee has been taking the money from the trust fund I hope he goes down big time.

Ah, but I didn't say I thought they would pass, I just said Lee's motives were due to him knowing he would not. ;) IMO. I do not know if Cindy and George would pass or not, but even if they wouldn't, they may think they could.

[bluwaters]

jesse said he took one, did he lie?
IF he did i hope the LE charge him.

What should LE charge Jesse with?
I don't believe that Jesse has stated under oath that he took the LDT.

jmo

[Boxer]

Love him or hate him... it don't matter. But he has done more and is still doing more to solve this case than anyone except LE are doing, and that includes the idiot protestors who bang on garage doors and throw rocks at their windows in the middle of the night!
He lost his initial $50,000... and he STILL investigates it.


it was returned to Tony Padilla

[Margo555]

Ok, the blog "linky" is right and the official log in is wrong. :rolleyes:


You and DG are amazing. ROFL Okay close your ears so you can't hear it. ;-) MOO I'm movin' on to real conversation.

[spiritwolf46]

Anyone care for a group hug?:D

I can not wait for the TES PC that will surprise us tomorrow. I can not imagine any thing at this point being a surprise but a live Caylee and I dont think thats it.

I am all for a group hug!

Did I miss something on the TES PC tomorrow? HELP! :seeya:

[rosejustrose]

I remember that talk in the car being noted on this thread, and I've listened to the jailhouse "code" talk. At the very beginning of all this I thought Lee might be the only stand-up member of that family, and might have actually been trying to get information out of Casey in order to help LE, but that hope has loooooong since vanished. ITA with your assessment.

I had the same initial assessment of Lee. I thought he might be the only rational one amongst the bunch. IMO, I was wrong.

[MyrDawn]

We don't want them in Texas. ;)

Absolutely not! I don't want my great state dragged into this mess!
:beer:

[Acorn]

Yes he showed, so did her parents and they were TURNED AWAY. gesh you have such a hard head lol imo

Guess she gave up on the asserted 45 minutes part. ;)

You're wrong.

It was Patrick Bourgeois that didn't show.

Waters showed, and stayed for 45 minutes.

[?noanswer]

Hi everyone -
I have a question. I hope it's not a stupid one: Those of you who say George and Cindy are lying, how do you know they're lying? I couldn't say without a doubt that they're lying. Maybe they BELIEVE what they're saying is the truth? Like when someone asks "Do you believe me?", and you say "I believe that you believe it's the truth." Ya know?

When they tell different versions of the same thing. Only one, if any, could be true. JMO

[impartial]

:shrug:Me, too. Why would she need immunity? Baez has no authority to restrict her rights. She was in the Anthony home protecting the interests of the BH. IMO, he had a lot riding on her NOT skipping bail. Having someone with her 24/7 was his way securing his investment. Too bad if the blabbermouths couldn't keep quiet and she overheard something. Still doesn't explain the need for immunity, IMO. Unless, of course, she became aware of a crime and failed to report it to LE.

Impartial, you're an attorney, what are your thoughts? TIA


I don't have enough information to even make a stab at this one.

Sorry.

[rosejustrose]

Hi everyone -
I have a question. I hope it's not a stupid one: Those of you who say George and Cindy are lying, how do you know they're lying? I couldn't say without a doubt that they're lying. Maybe they BELIEVE what they're saying is the truth? Like when someone asks "Do you believe me?", and you say "I believe that you believe it's the truth." Ya know?

IMO that's sorta like saying I'm Marie Antoinette, just because I believe doesn't make it the truth, it's still a delusion, a lie. JMO.

[desmom]

Hi everyone -
I have a question. I hope it's not a stupid one: Those of you who say George and Cindy are lying, how do you know they're lying? I couldn't say without a doubt that they're lying. Maybe they BELIEVE what they're saying is the truth? Like when someone asks "Do you believe me?", and you say "I believe that you believe it's the truth." Ya know?

:seeya: There is no such thing as a stupid question.

Off the top of my head....

Cindy said Casey's car sat in front of the house for days before it was towed by LE and she said she told LE about the pants she took out of the car and washed the very lst night they were at the house. The 400 + pages of documents state the car was towed within 24 hours of the Anthony's initial 911 call reporting a stolen car and LE was not aware of the washed pants until it came out in an interview with Cindy on August 4.

Cindy says she text or talked to Casey daily since Casey and Caylee moved out. We then learn the phone had been shut off July 8 (I think is the date) for lack of payment.

George talked a lot about the letter Casey was writing in jail for her attorney. Her attorney says there is no letter.

George also said the kidnappers were being watched and waiting for the right moment; the neighbor stole the gas can; Casey stole the gas can; Casey was posting to a friend "she had not lived at home for 9 days because of the draaaammmma" at the time George says she was at the house and he found the gas cans in the trunk of car.

jmo

[GrandmaGA]

now I'm confused and on cold meds so let's dumb it down for me.



up until now, at any point when Casey was in jail, who visted with her and was able to talk to her?
can you list them for me please. I think people are getting all twisticated on words.
Who went to the jail and spoke with Casey? not who was scheduled to or who showed up and was turned away, or who never showed. Who actually went physically and spoke with her while she was in jail? ( seperate list of calls made to/from her would be great too)


http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf

[Rayosunshine]

You're wrong.

It was Patrick Bourgeois that didn't show.

Waters showed, and stayed for 45 minutes.


Patrick Bourgeois did show. I believe he was the first visitor.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Cury-us Coyote]

I'm sure they are following the advice of their attorney.

IIRC, the alleged LDT refusals occurred before the A's secured their criminal defense attorney's representation.
jmo

[concernedmom]

The link is toward the bottom of the last page on the links thread.


http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=838

I am all for a group hug!

Did I miss something on the TES PC tomorrow? HELP! :seeya:



The audio above says TES is holding a Pc tomorrow.

the other day one was posted that TES said new developments that will surprise us. I dont know where to find the link for that one.

[day2day]

I still believe that LP's $50,000 will help bring Caylee home. jmo

[Joan Weiss]

I don't believe Padilla at all.

He has egg all over his face.

IMOI'm with you on that. :seeya:

[beckyj]

Love him or hate him... it don't matter. But he has done more and is still doing more to solve this case than anyone except LE are doing, and that includes the idiot protestors who bang on garage doors and throw rocks at their windows in the middle of the night!
He lost his initial $50,000... and he STILL investigates it.


I agree. I've always thought he's "crazy like a fox". I believe he wants some publicity too, but he has been spot on on many things so far. JMO, of course!

[MyrDawn]

:seeya: There is no such thing as a stupid question.

Off the top of my head....

Cindy said Casey's car sat in front of the house for days before it was towed by LE and she said she told LE about the pants she took out of the car and washed the very lst night they were at the house. The 400 + pages of documents state the car was towed within 24 hours of the Anthony's initial 911 call reporting a stolen car and LE was not aware of the washed pants until it came out in an interview with Cindy on August 4.

Cindy says she text or talked to Casey daily since Casey and Caylee moved out. We then learn the phone had been shut off July 8 (I think is the date) for lack of payment.

George talked a lot about the letter Casey was writing in jail for her attorney. Her attorney says there is no letter.

George also said the kidnappers were being watched and waiting for the right moment; the neighbor stole the gas can; Casey stole the gas can; Casey was posting to a friend "she had not lived at home for 9 days because of the draaaammmma" at the time George says she was at the house and he found the gas cans in the trunk of car.

jmo

Don't forget the whopper Cindy told...first she said it smelled like "a dead body in the damn car" to the 911 operator, which she changed to swearing it was an old pizza. Old pizza's do NOT smell like dead bodies!

JMO

[concernedmom]

G'Morning all! :seeya:

Wow, it seems the Bickersons have paid us a visit. :(

I have nothing constructive to add this a.m. but I still get a chuckle out of Geraldo calling Casey a "disco queen". I mean how current is he? Disco Queen? Is that phrase so old it's new again?

I was disco queen late 70's early 80's. Won prizes in local contests. Broke my heart geraldo taking my title away and giving it to casey.:mad:

[Joan Weiss]

G'Morning all! :seeya:

Wow, it seems the Bickersons have paid us a visit. :(

I have nothing constructive to add this a.m. but I still get a chuckle out of Geraldo calling Casey a "disco queen". I mean how current is he? Disco Queen? Is that phrase so old it's new again?Heee...I was thinking the same thing. Not too quick on his feet, is he? He could have said "dancing queen." (Sorry, I love Abba...) imo

[curiousD]

Hi everyone -
I have a question. I hope it's not a stupid one: Those of you who say George and Cindy are lying, how do you know they're lying? I couldn't say without a doubt that they're lying. Maybe they BELIEVE what they're saying is the truth? Like when someone asks "Do you believe me?", and you say "I believe that you believe it's the truth." Ya know?

I agree with you sharmayla..Personally I dont think George and Cindy know the truth..They choose to go along with this circus freakshow thier daughter is starring in because they dont know what else to do and are paralized by the emotions.
That not to say I think they are "normal". I think thier behavior is odd to say the least.

[WillowInFlight]

This is from NG transcript from the 18th LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MEETING WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS: Well, the thing about it is when we bailed out of Orlando it was because of the safety situation that was starting to increase and nobody believed us. And the thing about it is they can get off that bond any time, remove her, send her back to jail and it`s a lot safer for her and everybody else.

Now, something that came up earlier about the investigators that are out here right now. One thing that I do want to mention that took kind of a strange turn. The attorney for the young lady that was with Casey for nine days in the house and rode with her to the attorneys and back and forth, her attorney won`t let her discuss anything with the investigators that are here from the FBI and Orlando Sheriff`s Office because she didn`t discuss it with Orlando Sheriff`s Office before she left and he`s afraid that they might want to prosecute her for withholding information on some of the things that, I guess, Casey had told her.

So I just wanted to straighten that out over and above what I had said before about them coming out here to talk to everybody.

GRACE: So, Leonard, bottom line, the female security person may know something that actually jeopardizes her own legal stat us?

PADILLA: In talking to her attorney today, he said he could not, in good conscience, allow her to discuss anything, specifically some things that Casey had told her regarding Caylee, without talking to their bosses tomorrow in Orlando.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/18/ng.01.html

At the bottom of the screen it was scrolling that this woman was asking for immunity, because I remember coming on her asking for what reason would she be asking.

[rosejustrose]

You and DG are amazing. ROFL Okay close your ears so you can't hear it. ;-) MOO I'm movin' on to real conversation.

Dance of the Day ~ The Skip and Scroll:D

[impartial]

Don't forget the whopper Cindy told...first she said it smelled like "a dead body in the damn car" to the 911 operator, which she changed to swearing it was an old pizza. Old pizza's do NOT smell like dead bodies!

JMO


I have never smelled an unembalmed body ... however, my garbage bins on Thursday nights will knock your socks off.

:seeya:

[Acorn]

Don't forget the whopper Cindy told...first she said it smelled like "a dead body in the damn car" to the 911 operator, which she changed to swearing it was an old pizza. Old pizza's do NOT smell like dead bodies!

JMO

She also said it could have been a squirrel :D

[spiritwolf46]

The audio above says TES is holding a Pc tomorrow.

the other day one was posted that TES said new developments that will surprise us. I dont know where to find the link for that one.

Hmmmmm.....interesting! Thank you Concerned!

[rosejustrose]

Absolutely not! I don't want my great state dragged into this mess!
:beer:


Too late:eek:

[rosejustrose]

I don't have enough information to even make a stab at this one.

Sorry.

No problem. I don't think anyone really has enough information, accurate information that is, about any aspect of this case to make an informed decision. The only absolute here is that CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY has been missing 97 days ~ Where is Caylee, Casey?

JMO

[Boxer]

This is from NG transcript from the 18th LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MEETING WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS: Well, the thing about it is when we bailed out of Orlando it was because of the safety situation that was starting to increase and nobody believed us. And the thing about it is they can get off that bond any time, remove her, send her back to jail and it`s a lot safer for her and everybody else.

Now, something that came up earlier about the investigators that are out here right now. One thing that I do want to mention that took kind of a strange turn. The attorney for the young lady that was with Casey for nine days in the house and rode with her to the attorneys and back and forth, her attorney won`t let her discuss anything with the investigators that are here from the FBI and Orlando Sheriff`s Office because she didn`t discuss it with Orlando Sheriff`s Office before she left and he`s afraid that they might want to prosecute her for withholding information on some of the things that, I guess, Casey had told her.

So I just wanted to straighten that out over and above what I had said before about them coming out here to talk to everybody.

GRACE: So, Leonard, bottom line, the female security person may know something that actually jeopardizes her own legal stat us?

PADILLA: In talking to her attorney today, he said he could not, in good conscience, allow her to discuss anything, specifically some things that Casey had told her regarding Caylee, without talking to their bosses tomorrow in Orlando.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/18/ng.01.html

At the bottom of the screen it was scrolling that this woman was asking for immunity, because I remember coming on her asking for what reason would she be asking.


anyone consider she may have seen other crimes in the house? financial or otherwise? maybe that's the holdup. or maybe things she overheard from those OTHER than Casey? who knows...

[Fallen Angel]

Anyone care for a group hug?:D

I can not wait for the TES PC that will surprise us tomorrow. I can not imagine any thing at this point being a surprise but a live Caylee and I dont think thats it.

i'm really behind this weekend. Does TES plan on having a PC tomorrow?

[impartial]

This is from NG transcript from the 18th LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, MEETING WITH TOT CASE INVESTIGATORS: Well, the thing about it is when we bailed out of Orlando it was because of the safety situation that was starting to increase and nobody believed us. And the thing about it is they can get off that bond any time, remove her, send her back to jail and it`s a lot safer for her and everybody else.

Now, something that came up earlier about the investigators that are out here right now. One thing that I do want to mention that took kind of a strange turn. The attorney for the young lady that was with Casey for nine days in the house and rode with her to the attorneys and back and forth, her attorney won`t let her discuss anything with the investigators that are here from the FBI and Orlando Sheriff`s Office because she didn`t discuss it with Orlando Sheriff`s Office before she left and he`s afraid that they might want to prosecute her for withholding information on some of the things that, I guess, Casey had told her.

So I just wanted to straighten that out over and above what I had said before about them coming out here to talk to everybody.

GRACE: So, Leonard, bottom line, the female security person may know something that actually jeopardizes her own legal stat us?

PADILLA: In talking to her attorney today, he said he could not, in good conscience, allow her to discuss anything, specifically some things that Casey had told her regarding Caylee, without talking to their bosses tomorrow in Orlando.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/18/ng.01.html

At the bottom of the screen it was scrolling that this woman was asking for immunity, because I remember coming on her asking for what reason would she be asking.


Curiouser and curiouser.

IMO

[Joan Weiss]

Love him or hate him... it don't matter. But he has done more and is still doing more to solve this case than anyone except LE are doing, and that includes the idiot protestors who bang on garage doors and throw rocks at their windows in the middle of the night!
He lost his initial $50,000... and he STILL investigates it.And so are we. He's reading...(which he should have done in the first place). ;)

imo

[keybored]

Hi everyone -
I have a question. I hope it's not a stupid one: Those of you who say George and Cindy are lying, how do you know they're lying? I couldn't say without a doubt that they're lying. Maybe they BELIEVE what they're saying is the truth? Like when someone asks "Do you believe me?", and you say "I believe that you believe it's the truth." Ya know?

The big problem with the Anthonys, IMO, is that they change their stories all the time. First Cindy says the car smells like a dead body, then it smells like old pizza. This is just one example.

George too has offered a variety of statements that seem a bit off the wall (like how the "kidnappers" were being watched - if so, why haven't they been arrested?). That doesn't mean that he's lying, but putting it together with all their other behaviour and comments, sadly, the Anthonys have lost credibility in my eyes.

As many others have stated, the Anthonys are the own worst enemies.

Poor Caylee.... :rose:

[OneUp]

<<Snipped>>

*side note* The Help Find Caylee site has been updated to state that Caylee is almost 3 years old and that she has been missing since June 16 (as opposed to June 9).
http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/
Sorry to snip, this was all I wanted to address.
Yesterday when we were discussing how awful it was that the site was not updated, I ( and others) predicted that this would be corrected in the next few days...well, Lo and behold!
If you don't think "someone" reads here ( and many other sites too) then you are fooling yourself.
Sorry Anthony clan! The update was about two months too late to make a difference to me. I get it though, you're reading and responding to our concerns...nice try! I still think you're creepy, and I still think consequences are heading right down the pike at you.
JMO

[Texas48]

You can't make it any clearer then that. So, let's all hold our breath for DaddysGirl to do the appropriate thing here and apologize. :cool: OMG...this makes trying to read and learn new aspects of this case impossible. What difference does it make at this time in the case who showed up for a visit w/Casey and who did not? I can not count the post that go on and on about who is right and who is wrong. Please............can not everyone just work together and try and respect all posters instead of the little snipes and digs? I am hadicapped and bedridden and I come on this board to enjoy and get something out of everyones post. Several of you try and make that IMPOSSIBLE. So.. yall go ahead w/your name calling and snide remarks and have a great day if you can, JMO

[Rebel Rouzer]

Anyone care for a group hug?:D

I can not wait for the TES PC that will surprise us tomorrow. I can not imagine any thing at this point being a surprise but a live Caylee and I dont think thats it.


Me I'll take one lol

They stated a date and time for the information that will surprise us all? Sorry I have been really busy past few days and haven't heard or read the news on the case since Friday.

[rosejustrose]

I was disco queen late 70's early 80's. Won prizes in local contests. Broke my heart geraldo taking my title away and giving it to casey.:mad:


Awww! You can be our disco queen, OK?

[kakax]

anyone consider she may have seen other crimes in the house? financial or otherwise? maybe that's the holdup. or maybe things she overheard from those OTHER than Casey? who knows...

And what obligation would she have had, if she did overhear something in the house, to "debrief" police before she left town? I don't understand why the police didn't go to LP and crew before they left town in the first place.

All of a sudden we started hearing LP talk about things that were going on in that house that were different than what had been told to the police. Why in the world would they not have told the police this before they left?

It's all odd to me.

[concernedmom]

70's-80's is what I thought, too. He's such a dipwad. :D

Now its ball room dancing.
Can you imagine him on DWTS?:D
Caseys fusian pics were not even close to it.

[kakax]

Me I'll take one lol

They stated a date and time for the information that will surprise us all? Sorry I have been really busy past few days and haven't heard or read the news on the case since Friday.

A radio show host mentioned that there would be a press conference by TES on Monday. I'm not sure I believe it.

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=838

[concernedmom]

Me I'll take one lol

They stated a date and time for the information that will surprise us all? Sorry I have been really busy past few days and haven't heard or read the news on the case since Friday.


Havent heard a time. Just its supposed to be tomorrow.

[trich]

Originally Posted by Sharmayla
Hi everyone -
I have a question. I hope it's not a stupid one: Those of you who say George and Cindy are lying, how do you know they're lying? I couldn't say without a doubt that they're lying. Maybe they BELIEVE what they're saying is the truth? Like when someone asks "Do you believe me?", and you say "I believe that you believe it's the truth." Ya know?


Okay I will answer that for you.
If you hear someone say one thing and then they come back later and say something else that contridicts their own words....what is that?
IMO that is a lie.

For example:
When Cindy called 911 she said it smells like a dead body was in the car.
The fact she said that is on record.
Then she says it was a rotting pizza .
She also told protestors she did not say that about the dead body.
I heard it myself on one of the videos.
Those are just off the top of my head that I remember right now.
When people lie they do not remember what they said all the time and they wind up contridicting themselves.
If they were telling the truth the "story" would not change.


The same thing happened in the Scott Petterson case.
He could not keep his lies straght along with his mother.

[curiousD]

The big problem with the Anthonys, IMO, is that they change their stories all the time. First Cindy says the car smells like a dead body, then it smells like old pizza. This is just one example.

George too has offered a variety of statements that seem a bit off the wall (like how the "kidnappers" were being watched - if so, why haven't they been arrested?). That doesn't mean that he's lying, but putting it together with all their other behaviour and comments, sadly, the Anthonys have lost credibility in my eyes.

As many others have stated, the Anthonys are the own worst enemies.

Poor Caylee.... :rose:

Absoloutley..they are odd.....and they love the ddddrrrrrrraaaaammmmmmaaaaa. Every one of them is nuts..Nothing is going to surprize me anymore in this fiasco.

[MyrDawn]

I have never smelled an unembalmed body ... however, my garbage bins on Thursday nights will knock your socks off.

:seeya:

I have smelled human bodies that were in decomp. They smell nothing like garbage. They have a very distinct odor, that once you smell it, you should always recognize it.

[Rebel Rouzer]

A radio show host mentioned that there would be a press conference by TES on Monday. I'm not sure I believe it.

http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=838


Thank you and concernedmom.

[sammielizabe]

Jesse knows that Casey was looking for Xanax. Casey knows that Jesse knows.


Eyewitness News has also learned that investigators have asked at least one of her friends questions about Casey and Xanax during a lie detector test.
Eyewitness News has learned that Casey Anthony had apparently asked her ex-fiancé Jesse Grund about Xanax while they were instant-messaging during the time they were engaged. Grund was asked the questions when he was hooked up to a polygraph by the FBI.


http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html

[Rayosunshine]

I really would like to know how much money Casey stole from her family. Does anyone know?
I have heard $4,500K and $45,000K.
If the amount has ever been verified, I have missed it.

$4.5K could easily be blown by living 'high on the hog' over a short period of time- but $45.0K is a significant amount of money.
How did Casey spend her money?
I'm sure that LE has a very good idea, but other than the charges related to Amy, they haven't released anything else about it.

I think it is important to follow the money to track Casey's movements since May or earlier.

I am very glad that the A's are under pressure to account for any money that they collect as donations to for Caylee. It really burns me up that under the "volunteer" page on the Help Find Caylee site, the A's only need volunteers to donate to Caylee's fund! :flamemad:
http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/contact

*side note* The Help Find Caylee site has been updated to state that Caylee is almost 3 years old and that she has been missing since June 16 (as opposed to June 9).
http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/

And, did Casey steal the money for her own use or for someone else?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Rebel Rouzer]

Originally Posted by Sharmayla
Hi everyone -
I have a question. I hope it's not a stupid one: Those of you who say George and Cindy are lying, how do you know they're lying? I couldn't say without a doubt that they're lying. Maybe they BELIEVE what they're saying is the truth? Like when someone asks "Do you believe me?", and you say "I believe that you believe it's the truth." Ya know?


Okay I will answer that for you.
If you hear someone say one thing and then they come back later and say something else that contridicts their own words....what is that?
IMO that is a lie.

For example:
When Cindy called 911 she said it smells like a dead body was in the car.
The fact she said that is on record.
Then she says it was a rotting pizza .
She also told protestors she did not say that about the dead body.
I heard it myself on one of the videos.
Those are just off the top of my head that I remember right now.
When people lie they do not remember what they said all the time and they wind up contridicting themselves.
If they were telling the truth the "story" would not change.


The same thing happened in the Scott Petterson case.
He could not keep his lies straght along with his mother.


This is so true. Including the part about Peterson and his mother. Caught his mother in a few lies.

[desmom]

http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/297937.html out of SC is reporting

Prayer vigil for missing Fla. girl is cancelled

[AustinsMama]

i'm really behind this weekend. Does TES plan on having a PC tomorrow?

Hello Everyone! I am really behind too. Where are we getting this information that TES is planning on having a PC tomorrow? Is the PC about this case? I thought Tim and team were in Aruba?

Thank you all for the udpates- this board is wonderful and the only place I go for information on this case.

[rosejustrose]

OMG...this makes trying to read and learn new aspects of this case impossible. What difference does it make at this time in the case who showed up for a visit w/Casey and who did not? I can not count the post that go on and on about who is right and who is wrong. Please............can not everyone just work together and try and respect all posters instead of the little snipes and digs? I am hadicapped and bedridden and I come on this board to enjoy and get something out of everyones post. Several of you try and make that IMPOSSIBLE. So.. yall go ahead w/your name calling and snide remarks and have a great day if you can, JMO

I'm so sorry, Texas about your health:rose:

I think the point is that certain posters come out and make nebulous or just outrageous posts for the sole purpose of derailing a thread or forcing the thread closed. JMO and observations. I'm doing the dance of the day, Skip and Scroll.

[Boxer]

And what obligation would she have had, if she did overhear something in the house, to "debrief" police before she left town? I don't understand why the police didn't go to LP and crew before they left town in the first place.

All of a sudden we started hearing LP talk about things that were going on in that house that were different than what had been told to the police. Why in the world would they not have told the police this before they left?

It's all odd to me.

IMO, the whole situation was convoluted from the beginning. Too many secrets. These were Baez's people.

[Joan Weiss]

Listened to some Abba this week. Like I'm real current, huh?

At least he got the "slutting around" part right. It doesn't seem like that EVER goes out of style! :biggrin:Imo, Abba and their beautiful harmony blend never goes out of style.

I guess, considering what Casey wears, she's stuck in the 80s anyway. I'm waiting for the NY scarf head wrap....imo

[rosejustrose]

And what obligation would she have had, if she did overhear something in the house, to "debrief" police before she left town? I don't understand why the police didn't go to LP and crew before they left town in the first place.

All of a sudden we started hearing LP talk about things that were going on in that house that were different than what had been told to the police. Why in the world would they not have told the police this before they left?

It's all odd to me.


Maybe they did go to LE but it was ruled as hearsay:shrug:

[WillowInFlight]

http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/297937.html out of SC is reporting

Prayer vigil for missing Fla. girl is cancelled

What a shame that people can't act like adults for just a few hours out of their day.

[curiousD]

And you know what else is odd to me? This might have already been discussed 80 days ago but here goes..where are the Anthony supporters?
Where is Georges family? I know he pushed his Dad thru a plate glass window(allegedly?). Is he still alive? Does he have brothers and sisters? Does he have coworkers? Has he not accummulated a friend in his lifetime?
And Cindy...we have seen posts from her brother (allegedly), where is he now?
Does Cindy have no friends to support her? Coworkers? Neighbors? We hear about George being ex LE? Why is he not still LE. He prefers to work as a security guard and scrape by financially?
This is probably all a repeat..thanks for letting me rant...:)

[marshmallow]

I have smelled human bodies that were in decomp. They smell nothing like garbage. They have a very distinct odor, that once you smell it, you should always recognize it.

while I've never been up close and personal with an unembalmed body, back in '81' the body of an adult male was found in a car trunk out in front of the apt. building I lived in.
I lived on the second floor and it was summer so our windows were opened and the smell wafted up and into the building. We were not in the building and not allowed back in until that night after the police were done. Even after that time with the windows still open, the smell was horrific and we along with the other 3 apt residents stayed elsewhere for a couple nights while the apt. complex dealt with the smell. It did not smell like old pizza or a bag of garbage it was the kind of smell that clung to the inside of your sinuses and you could almost taste. Anyone whose smelled a bad scent like that knows what I mean by a stench so bad you could almost taste it.

[OneUp]

Transferrence of blame is common in cases where the defendant is trying to avoid the blame blanket themselves. I was unaware that I was using the phrase wrong.

I've politely asked you several times to add to your comments so I can understand your thinking and possibly change my own thoughts. You continously avoid doing so. I get the hint. I won't ask any more.
You're not incorrect in your use of transference marsh.
I posted a list of terms and sites the other night on that very subject...projection, transference, etc...I'll see if I can spot it...
This refers to projection in Gestalt therapy:

Gestalt therapy ( the quote appears "odd" as the original is in outline form, it is an outlined overview of gestalt therapy).

http://www.johnpina.com/Psychology/Psy3617-ext/3617lec10.html
"Causes of ill health/neuroses
conflict
between demands of society and one’s inner nature


topdog vs. underdog
our topdog tells us what we should do
out inner underdog tries to evade topdog’s commands


incomplete gestalten
need cycles aren’t completed


lack of awareness
refusing to take responsibility
disturbances of contact
introjection — absorbing others’ "shoulds"
projection — visualize in the outside world those parts of one’s own personality that one refuses to identify
retroflection — doing to yourself what you might want to do to others
deflection — turn aside from a healthy contact
confluence — don’t experience self as distinct from environment "

TheFreeDictionary, transference

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/transference
"trans·fer·ence (trns-fûrns, trnsfr-ns)
n.
1.
a. The act or process of transferring.
b. The fact of being transferred.
2. In psychoanalysis, the process by which emotions and desires originally associated with one person, such as a parent or sibling, are unconsciously shifted to another person, especially to the analyst."


If anyone is interested, I can look for further information about Projection/transference.

[summer4meplz]

And you think I'm mean?


I thought it was dg who was accused of being mean?

[Joan Weiss]

http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/297937.html out of SC is reporting

Prayer vigil for missing Fla. girl is cancelledI believe that was a HOA suggestion. imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

IMO, the whole situation was convoluted from the beginning. Too many secrets. These were Baez's people.

I always thought it was Baez or someone George knew that contacted Padilla in the beginning.

[concernedmom]

And, did Casey steal the money for her own use or for someone else?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Good question about the money from Cindys CC and GP money.
It looks like the money she stole from Amy was just blown shopping and cooking for the guys.
Large amounts, good question what it was used for since Casey doesnt have a car or anything apparant to show for it.

Im sure LE has that answer and it will surface during a trial.
(But they could tell us)

[rosejustrose]

Can anyone here think of a family that is so insidiously toxic to all it touches? If I so much as was their plumber, I'd be hiding under the bed waiting for them to implicate me in some way. :chicken:


The Manson Family:shrug:

[trich]

the other day one was posted that TES said new developments that will surprise us. I dont know where to find the link for that one.


What was really said is that TES stays in contact with LE and there have been new developements that might surprise us all.


did not say that TES had new developements but that this spokesman said LE had information that would surprise us.

[?noanswer]

Good question about the money from Cindys CC and GP money.
It looks like the money she stole from Amy was just blown shopping and cooking for the guys.
Large amounts, good question what it was used for since Casey doesnt have a car or anything apparant to show for it.

Im sure LE has that answer and it will surface during a trial.
(But they could tell us)


Maybe to pay her cell phone bill. I heard it was disconnected and she had to pay a reconnect fee also. JMO

[MyrDawn]

Hello Everyone! I am really behind too. Where are we getting this information that TES is planning on having a PC tomorrow? Is the PC about this case? I thought Tim and team were in Aruba?

Thank you all for the udpates- this board is wonderful and the only place I go for information on this case.

The hurricane severely damaged Equusearch's headquarters. I think the Aruba trip is on hold because of it. It says on their website "Due to hurricane Ike the Texas EquuSearch headquarters have been severely damaged. Texas EquuSearch will resume its work as soon as we can recover from damage. Please stand by for further updates."

I heard that several of their people had their homes damaged or destroyed by the hurricane, too. JMO

http://www.texasequusearch.org/

[nc1948]

A whole lot less than the Anthonys have been making off of Caylee's so-called trust.

Next.

They are also asking for donations on Help find Caylee web site. Selling t shirts and arm bands. Order address is Hopesprings and also you can send donations to Hopesprings. Plus George is pulling the rollings board to local shopping center and asking for donations. Sick---very sick.

[Joan Weiss]

What a shame that people can't act like adults for just a few hours out of their day.Imo, some people hate hypocrisy. It enrages them.

[rosejustrose]

Good question about the money from Cindys CC and GP money.
It looks like the money she stole from Amy was just blown shopping and cooking for the guys.
Large amounts, good question what it was used for since Casey doesnt have a car or anything apparant to show for it.

Im sure LE has that answer and it will surface during a trial.
(But they could tell us)


It wouldn't surprize me if Casey was footing the bill for the partying crowd, IMO. IIRC, didn't the roomate of TonE say she never seemed to be hurting for cash? JMO.

[Rayosunshine]

no, he's still an untrustworthy liar. :rolleyes:

And he is scrambling to get every media moment he can get.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[spiritwolf46]

Can anyone here think of a family that is so insidiously toxic to all it touches? If I so much as was their plumber, I'd be hiding under the bed waiting for them to implicate me in some way. :chicken:


LORD isn't THIS the truth!!! :chicken:

[Joan Weiss]

Maybe it was both of us.O/T. :no:

[WillowInFlight]

I always thought it was Baez or someone George knew that contacted Padilla in the beginning.
I always thought it was the SP, they seem to have shown up on the same day.

[Regina.Lampert]

OMG...this makes trying to read and learn new aspects of this case impossible. What difference does it make at this time in the case who showed up for a visit w/Casey and who did not? I can not count the post that go on and on about who is right and who is wrong. Please............can not everyone just work together and try and respect all posters instead of the little snipes and digs? I am hadicapped and bedridden and I come on this board to enjoy and get something out of everyones post. Several of you try and make that IMPOSSIBLE. So.. yall go ahead w/your name calling and snide remarks and have a great day if you can, JMO

Go back and read all of DG's remarks please. It makes a difference who actually saw casey in the jail because some are insinuating that some of the visitors may be involved in the crime.

[barskin&co.]

And, did Casey steal the money for her own use or for someone else?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

You are talking about Casey. When she steals money, who do you think she is steaking it for (pick one)

A) herself
B).....sorry, there is no choice B

[runnnempty]

the other day one was posted that TES said new developments that will surprise us. I dont know where to find the link for that one.


What was really said is that TES stays in contact with LE and there have been new developements that might surprise us all.


did not say that TES had new developements but that this spokesman said LE had information that would surprise us.

Is this the link?


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7457774&version=1&locale=EN-US

[bluwaters]

Sorry to snip, this was all I wanted to address.
Yesterday when we were discussing how awful it was that the site was not updated, I ( and others) predicted that this would be corrected in the next few days...well, Lo and behold!
If you don't think "someone" reads here ( and many other sites too) then you are fooling yourself.
Sorry Anthony clan! The update was about two months too late to make a difference to me. I get it though, you're reading and responding to our concerns...nice try! I still think you're creepy, and I still think consequences are heading right down the pike at you.
JMO
Interesting, isn't it?
Too bad that they didn't change the "Volunteer" page to ask for the efforts of people to actually help to search for Caylee!
Nope.
All the A's need to find Caylee is donations...
They also still list Bichler & Kelley, P.A. as administering the "Trust Fund."
I thought that B&K pulled out and closed the account at Suntrust Bank?

[spiritwolf46]

Maybe it was both of us.

What's a WUD? :seeya:

[Rayosunshine]

Also, he said Casey was "slutting around".. and called her a "disco queen"..lol.

Here is what is said about Cindy trying to pin the murder on Jesse:

Geraldo: Have you heard.. what we have heard.. that Cindy Anthony is spreading the word that you are somehow responsible for the death of this child, Caylee Anthony and that you stuffed this childs dead body in Casey Anthony's trunk to frame your former fiancee

Jesse: Yes, I have heard that. I'm aware of that.

Geraldo: And your response to that?

Jesse: Ridiculous. Ludicrous. I had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance at all.

...then the DNA test is revealed - he is NOT Caylee's father.

And if I remember Jesse's statement correctly, he mentioned that Casey wasn't a go out kind of girl.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Boojum Snark]

I'm quite certain they were advised by council to refuse to take the tests, that is if any of this is true to begin with.

It's all true! Cindy and George and Lee (Oh my!) refused to take lie detector tests! Anthony family lawyer would NEVER allow them take lie detector tests. It would prove to the world they are lying.

[Fallen Angel]

I believe that was a HOA suggestion. imo

HOA suggested they MOVE it......not cancel it IIRC

[WillowInFlight]

Imo, some people hate hypocrisy. It enrages them.

Don't think I don't agree with you, but I thought this was about CAYLEE?

[rosejustrose]

It's all true! Cindy and George and Lee (Oh my!) refused to take lie detector tests! Anthony family lawyer would NEVER allow them take lie detector tests. It would prove to the world they are lying.


Everytime their lips move they prove to the world they are lying. I don't think anyone needs the results of an LDT to confirm that, IMO.

[Boojum Snark]

Maybe it was both of us.

Maybe your hate bred her hate? Or vice versa? Just saying. :shrug:

[bluwaters]

You are talking about Casey. When she steals money, who do you think she is steaking it for (pick one)

A) herself
B).....sorry, there is no choice B
Yes, but, what did Casey do with the $$$ that she stole?
Where did the money go?

Shopping trips and going out could explain away $4.5K pretty easily for someone extravagant.

If the amount is closer to $45K - what did Casey do with the money?

[Rayosunshine]

well you know DG wants the LE to come out and tell HER everything lol


Why must posters on this board pick one poster and dog them to the end?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Fallen Angel]

And if I remember Jesse's statement correctly, he mentioned that Casey wasn't a go out kind of girl.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

when they were together. he said a LOT has changed lately with Casey.

[Rayosunshine]

Well, this is getting really silly so I'll end this now.
Here is a little linky for you DG. MOO

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/audio-from-case.html

What link would be directly connected to the jail for visitors?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[rosejustrose]

when they were together. he said a LOT has changed lately with Casey.

ITA. IIRC he said he's learning about many new sides to Casey that he didn't know about. JMO and paraphasing there.

[OneUp]

Heee...I was thinking the same thing. Not too quick on his feet, is he? He could have said "dancing queen." (Sorry, I love Abba...) imo
Totally Off topic Joanie...but I love ABBA too!:) They are just fun, "happy" music. My parents listened to them some when i was little....
Back on topic, I am still not seeing much about last nights Memorial/ demonstraion...I'm hoping that is because nnothing bad happened except for the "bullying" of the Candle girl by removing her sign and candles and putting the sprinkler on her...for shame Anthony's!:no:
JMO

[bluwaters]

http://www.fortmilltimes.com/124/story/297937.html out of SC is reporting

Prayer vigil for missing Fla. girl is cancelled

Thanks desmom!
Why do you think it is being reported out of town first? :confused:

Missing Girl's Family Forced To Cancel Vigil
Casey Anthony Fears For Her Safety

http://cbs4.com/local/casey.anthony.caylee.2.822296.html

[MyrDawn]

Why must posters on this board pick one poster and dog them to the end?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Beats me, but sometimes it gets the board shut down and/or posters banned.

[Fallen Angel]

ITA. IIRC he said he's learning about many new sides to Casey that he didn't know about. JMO and paraphasing there.

i personally feel sorry for Jesse

[barskin&co.]

Yes, but, what did Casey do with the $$$ that she stole?
Where did the money go?

Shopping trips and going out could explain away $4.5K pretty easily for someone extravagant.

If the amount is closer to $45K - what did Casey do with the money?

Well, let me put it this way, she is obviously not good at budgeting. I do wonder, however, if Cindy was able to get any part of the money back from her that stole from GGM. :confused: Yeah, I know. Probably not.

Oh well, what she did with the money is one thing we may not know for a while. I believe LE knows by now. Meanwhile, we are all on tenterhooks waiting for this info!!

[curiousD]

Thanks desmom!
Why do you think it is being reported out of town first? :confused:

Missing Girl's Family Forced To Cancel Vigil
Casey Anthony Fears For Her Safety

http://cbs4.com/local/casey.anthony.caylee.2.822296.html

GOOD!!!! The A's give vigils a bad name..

[rosejustrose]

Totally Off topic Joanie...but I love ABBA too!:) They are just fun, "happy" music. My parents listened to them some when i was little....
Back on topic, I am still not seeing much about last nights Memorial/ demonstraion...I'm hoping that is because nnothing bad happened except for the "bullying" of the Candle girl by removing her sign and candles and putting the sprinkler on her...for shame Anthony's!:no:
JMO

That was mean to do to someone who was out there respecting Caylee's memory, IMO. Why didn't they turned the sprinklers on the protesters instead of confronting them with hammers and baseball bats? Makes you wonder how the Anthonys pick their battles and if there isn't something a little more to them. JMO.

[Boojum Snark]

Maybe you created your new nic, to come here and start trouble.'
hammer

Why wud you say that?

[Reenbean]

i personally feel sorry for Jesse

Ditto. He's another victim of Casey Anthony. I wonder how many more there have been or will be before the justice system puts an end to it.

Prayers for Caylee:rose:

[concernedmom]

Thanks desmom!
Why do you think it is being reported out of town first? :confused:

Missing Girl's Family Forced To Cancel Vigil
Casey Anthony Fears For Her Safety

http://cbs4.com/local/casey.anthony.caylee.2.822296.html

When BH pulled out and they said their were threats didnt Cindy deny that when they reposted bond to get Casey out? Now they fear for their lives?

[Boojum Snark]

Maybe they didn't want candle girl to set their home ablaze. Shame on candle girl.

Do you hate candle girl?

[Fallen Angel]

Thanks desmom!
Why do you think it is being reported out of town first? :confused:

Missing Girl's Family Forced To Cancel Vigil
Casey Anthony Fears For Her Safety

http://cbs4.com/local/casey.anthony.caylee.2.822296.html


NO one is forcing them to cancel.....they could have had it at their church or some where else......JMHO

[curiousD]

Maybe they didn't want candle girl to set their home ablaze. Shame on candle girl.

Dont think cndle girl could start the house ablaze. The A's are always ready with the hose...
just sayin.:)

[Boojum Snark]

I don't have enough information to even make a stab at this one.

Sorry.

That has never stopped you before. :shrug:

[rosejustrose]

Maybe they didn't want candle girl to set their home ablaze. Shame on candle girl.

Set their home ablaze? She had candles not a Maltov Cocktail, IMO.

[trich]

Is this the link?


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7457774&version=1&locale=EN-US



Yes!
big developements to come which will surprise us.


I got the impression that it was from LE and that TES was aware of them.

[AMS]

Totally Off topic Joanie...but I love ABBA too!:) They are just fun, "happy" music. My parents listened to them some when i was little....
Back on topic, I am still not seeing much about last nights Memorial/ demonstraion...I'm hoping that is because nnothing bad happened except for the "bullying" of the Candle girl by removing her sign and candles and putting the sprinkler on her...for shame Anthony's!:no:
JMO


Just got back from Chicago where we saw Mamma Mia! I love Abba too. Anything exciting happen since Saturday morning?

[spiritwolf46]

Ditto. He's another victim of Casey Anthony. I wonder how many more there have been or will be before the justice system puts an end to it.

Prayers for Caylee:rose:

i personally feel sorry for Jesse

I feel for him, too. Not only is he a victim of Casey's but of Cindy's as well.

I feel for all of their victims. I pray that there are no more but I feel there will be as long as they can point their fingers to everyone but themselves.

:rose: For Caylee and the Victims in this case.

[need2no]

Thanks desmom!
Why do you think it is being reported out of town first? :confused:

Missing Girl's Family Forced To Cancel Vigil
Casey Anthony Fears For Her Safety

http://cbs4.com/local/casey.anthony.caylee.2.822296.html

Funny, the Anthony's haven't seemed very concerned about their safety when they rush out of their home to confront protesters.

Maybe they don't want to 'highlight' Lee's absence.

[rosejustrose]

NO one is forcing them to cancel.....they could have had it at their church or some where else......JMHO


Which, IMO, would be a more appropriate setting. JMO.

[aubrey04]

And if I remember Jesse's statement correctly, he mentioned that Casey wasn't a go out kind of girl.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Yeah, that is what Jesse said.. Geraldo is the one who said those things, but seeing the pictures that were taken WHILE Caylee was missing.. I'd say that Geraldo wasn't too far off the mark.

IIRC, Jesse dated Casey while she was pregnant and right after she gave birth.. I am sure she wasn't a go out kind of girl while pregnant and immediately after giving birth.

JMO

[summer4meplz]

anyone consider she may have seen other crimes in the house? financial or otherwise? maybe that's the holdup. or maybe things she overheard from those OTHER than Casey? who knows...

Hi Boxer:seeya:
all we need for sure is that she knows SOMETHING...can't wait to find out what it is....and who it's on....

[WillowInFlight]

I feel for him, too. Not only is he a victim of Casey's but of Cindy's as well.

I feel for all of their victims. I pray that there are no more but I feel there will be as long as they can point their fingers to everyone but themselves.

:rose: For Caylee and the Victims in this case.
I think when this is all said and done Baez will also be a victim. But one could say he is a victim of his own doing.

[barskin&co.]

I feel for him, too. Not only is he a victim of Casey's but of Cindy's as well.

I feel for all of their victims. I pray that there are no more but I feel there will be as long as they can point their fingers to everyone but themselves.

:rose: For Caylee and the Victims in this case.

Jesse was one of those really decent people Casey had in her life and whom she did not deserve to have.

[Regina.Lampert]

Why must posters on this board pick one poster and dog them to the end?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I will set the record straight here, no one is picking on anyone. Go back and read the entire thread and you will see that one poster wrote inaccurate information. When they were corrected by several posters they became accusatory and snarkie, instead of admitting they made a mistake. End of story.:read:

[barskin&co.]

Yeah, that is what Jesse said.. Geraldo is the one who said those things, but seeing the pictures that were taken WHILE Caylee was missing.. I'd say that Geraldo wasn't too far off the mark.

IIRC, Jesse dated Casey while she was pregnant and right after she gave birth.. I am sure she wasn't a go out kind of girl while pregnant and immediately after giving birth.

JMO

Good point! She certainly became a go-out girl after that, though.

[curiousD]

The A's cancelled the "vigil" so they could add to the draaaaammmmmaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And thier vicitm status.

We cant even have a vigil for our missing grandaughter because Caseys life is in danger...

Use some of that donation money and have your vigil somewhere else..HOW ABOUT THAT!!

[rosejustrose]

I think when this is all said and done Baez will also be a victim. But one could say he is a victim of his own doing.

ITA. IMO, he's already been victimized by the Anthonys, especially Casey. All that cozy-cozy PDA has not only hurt him professionally, IMO but it probably got Mrs. B looking at him funny. JMO, of course.

[rosejustrose]

I will set the record straight here, no one is picking on anyone. Go back and read the entire thread and you will see that one poster wrote inaccurate information. When they were corrected by several posters they became accusatory and snarkie, instead of admitting they made a mistake. End of story.:read:


That's how I read it, too. JMO.

[OneUp]

Why wud you say that?Beacause of PROJECTION and transference...see my post upthread aways...^^^^...
Some here feel that anyone who challenges their posts or behavior is either a troublemaker or a part of "the masses"...just comes from having an adverse type of personality I suppose...or a desperate need for attention that was lacking somewhere along the way.
Welcome here to IS, and I'd suggest just skipping past posts that seem harassing or argumentative. You'll "live" longer.
JMO.

[spiritwolf46]

Jesse was one of those really decent people Casey had in her life and whom she did not deserve to have.


Yes he was. Sad. :(

[Regina.Lampert]

Yes!
big developements to come which will surprise us.


I got the impression that it was from LE and that TES was aware of them.

I think your take on it is the correct one, trich! It's LE that has the surprising developments which will be released to the public.

[need2no]

Yeah, that is what Jesse said.. Geraldo is the one who said those things, but seeing the pictures that were taken WHILE Caylee was missing.. I'd say that Geraldo wasn't too far off the mark.

IIRC, Jesse dated Casey while she was pregnant and right after she gave birth.. I am sure she wasn't a go out kind of girl while pregnant and immediately after giving birth.

JMO


But...George claimed those pics were of Casey when she was pregnant.

[barskin&co.]

I agree. I signed back on after a very nice morning session and went directly to the last page and all I see is fussing and fighting. I saw a recent notice on WS that messages like that were being deleted. Since they don't do that here, it is wise to use the ignore button, unfortunately you still see the name and know there was a snide post. You can agree to disagree in a respectful manner. I see there really isn't any more news on CAYLEE, so I'm signing out. I hope the nasty remarks to each other stop before I sign back in later. Get over it FGS and get on with making some good points on the case. :no:

I know that I and many others here this morning have not been snide. There was a disagreement about facts that were being mistated- over and over again.

[concernedmom]

Good point! She certainly became a go-out girl after that, though.

Im wondering if Caseys wild side emerged after she turned 21 and legal age to get in the bars.

[SavannahStar]

I don't think I'm mean. But if you thought I was mean to you, then I apologize.

You are one of the very LEAST "mean" posters on here!

[curiousD]

Very good post and in such few words! :beer:

ABSOLOUTELY! The A's turn on EVERYONE!! I cant wait to watch them turn on each other!!

KARMA;)

[OneUp]

Dont think cndle girl could start the house ablaze. The A's are always ready with the hose...
just sayin.:)That would have been a difficult task with the SPRINKLERS turned on....
I'm just sayin'



OH, JMO as well.

[dixielover]

Yeah, that is what Jesse said.. Geraldo is the one who said those things, but seeing the pictures that were taken WHILE Caylee was missing.. I'd say that Geraldo wasn't too far off the mark.

IIRC, Jesse dated Casey while she was pregnant and right after she gave birth.. I am sure she wasn't a go out kind of girl while pregnant and immediately after giving birth.

JMO

Did Casey tell Jesse that he was the father and that is why they got engaged?

[Rayosunshine]

You are talking about Casey. When she steals money, who do you think she is steaking it for (pick one)

A) herself
B).....sorry, there is no choice B

There's some linear thought for the day.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[nc1948]

ABSOLOUTELY! The A's turn on EVERYONE!! I cant wait to watch them turn on each other!!

KARMA;)


Just wait, I don't think it will be much longer. (I hope) I am ready for this drama to end and focus back on Caylee.

[Boojum Snark]

Beacause or PROJECTION and transference...see my post upthread aways...^^^^...
Some here feel that anyone who challenges their posts or behavior is either a troublmaker or a part of "the masses"...just comes from having an adverse type of personality I suppose...or a desperate need for attention that was lacking somewhere along the way.
Welcome here to IS, and I'd suggest just skipping past posts that seem harassing or argumentative. You'll "live" longer.
JMO.

Thank you for the advice abd the welcome. :) I'm not an adverse party here. I just want to join in the conversation. :)

[Joan Weiss]

And you know what else is odd to me? This might have already been discussed 80 days ago but here goes..where are the Anthony supporters?
Where is Georges family? I know he pushed his Dad thru a plate glass window(allegedly?). Is he still alive? Does he have brothers and sisters? Does he have coworkers? Has he not accummulated a friend in his lifetime?
And Cindy...we have seen posts from her brother (allegedly), where is he now?
Does Cindy have no friends to support her? Coworkers? Neighbors? We hear about George being ex LE? Why is he not still LE. He prefers to work as a security guard and scrape by financially?
This is probably all a repeat..thanks for letting me rant...:)Imo, they don't want to get sucked up in the media machine (if there are any...).

[aubrey04]

The official log says Patick Bougeois visited Casey on July 24, just as the blog says. And by the way, the blog has a recording of the visit. The official log says a visit from Waters was scheduled for July 29, but the status is not "completed," which means the visit didn't take place.

Right. I do NOT understand what is so hard to understand. Are people READING the log? The log has a list of people who were SCHEDULED to visit... The SCHEDULED visitation is located at the top right corner - it states the SCHEDULED visitation time.. underneath it -

there is a "check-in".. "check-out" column...

William Waters and Stefany Kostakis NEVER checked in or checked out.

Reading comprehension 101.... They never checked in or out because they NEVER came to visit.

Frank Bourgeois had a big "DID NOT SHOW" next to his name because he was scheduled to visit WITH Patrick.. it looks like Patrick showed, but Frank did NOT.

http://elfninosmom.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/casey-jail-visitation-log-080824-to-080729.pdf

The press has been releasing who is "scheduled" to visit Casey all throughout this case (days before the visitation) because they had an advance copy of who is signed up to visit.. Just because someone is scheduled does NOT mean they will show.

The end. (I hope).. I would put JMO but it is a FACT, so I won't bother.

[Rayosunshine]

Yes, but, what did Casey do with the $$$ that she stole?
Where did the money go?

Shopping trips and going out could explain away $4.5K pretty easily for someone extravagant.

If the amount is closer to $45K - what did Casey do with the money?

And, wouldn't you think there'd be something to show for it, or some talk among/from her friends about how lavish her spending was?

Somebody close to Casey had bad financial problems.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[SavannahStar]

I was on thedailybs constantly during the Caffey case. He will dig deep to get info. He traveled to Texas and spent over a week there getting info for the Caffey case.

He has posted on here, under Skrause (i believe).. and he's on myspace. I saw him on a myspace chatroom that is dedicated to Caylee/Casey Anthony.


Hi aubrey, I THOUGHT he sounded familiar!!! I followed that case as well.

[barskin&co.]

Did Casey tell Jesse that he was the father and that is why they got engaged?

Yes. After Caylee was born he took a DNA test which showed he wasn't the father, and he still remained in their lives, sitting for Caylee and giving her love. He's a good guy.

[rosejustrose]

I agree. I signed back on after a very nice morning session and went directly to the last page and all I see is fussing and fighting. I saw a recent notice on WS that messages like that were being deleted. Since they don't do that here, it is wise to use the ignore button, unfortunately you still see the name and know there was a snide post. You can agree to disagree in a respectful manner. I see there really isn't any more news on CAYLEE, so I'm signing out. I hope the nasty remarks to each other stop before I sign back in later. Get over it FGS and get on with making some good points on the case. :no:

See ya later:seeya:

IMO, every piece of information that comes out in this case is about Caylee. There will be no specific news about Caylee until she is found. Everything being reported reflects the efforts of LE and other to find out what happened to Caylee. Unfortunately, the major players in this drama are not only compulsive liars, they are crazy. JMO.

[need2no]

Did Casey tell Jesse that he was the father and that is why they got engaged?


I would assume so based on Mr. Grund saying "short, one date thing."