Saturday Afternoon, September 20, 2008

[dixielover]

Don't you think that if Caylee is found to be alive and is returned to her family, it will spoil things for the horde of accusers around the country?
By the way, were you ever asked "who you used to be on the boards"?
It seems that one has to tow "the line" in order to gain any credence in posting on these boards.;)


I think everyone is praying that little Caylee is alive. The problem is how in the world can anyone defend a person who has continued to not say anything or help in anyway to find her daughter. The story that she is telling is not true. Maybe, if she would step up and tell the true story people would not be as judgemental. Things happen in life-i am a flight nurse (er) and see them everyday-but to go 90 days and say nothing. At this point, the truth can not be worst that what is going on right now. JMO

[WillowInFlight]

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/08/28/rest-in-peace-caylee-marie-anthony/

Thank you for the link, the only thing that bothers me with that is it doesn't seem to have been update since 9/6.

[baywench]

It was an RDP - Random Dead Person. Happens to me all the time. I'll go out to my car and find a rotting corpse in the back, two-three times a month at least. :rolleyes:


Yeah don't you hate that when that happens....AND they spill your chloroform?

[WillowInFlight]

Strangers have searched for Caylee...members of this board has searched also...has the family? I think not.

It's not in Caylees best interest that they search remember?

[Katprint]

It was an RDP - Random Dead Person. Happens to me all the time. I'll go out to my car and find a rotting corpse in the back, two-three times a month at least. :rolleyes:
Does it happen mostly on Tuesdays? Do you live in Sunnydale? Are your friends named Buffy, Willow and Xander? :tongue:

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Ionmhainn]

That's sweet Dunnie. I agree. Cindy cannot accept Caylee's death. She's got a hard road ahead of her because she WILL have to accept it at some point. And her daughter will be serving a long, long, long sentence in prison. Very sad, all the way around.

Since we're telling personal stories here....about 15 years ago my very best friend and her husband were shot to death by their son, who was 17 at the time. The husband's mother (the boy's grandmother) was of course devastated. But she still to this day continues to visit the grandson in prison, and still loves him. She does accept that he murdered her son. I never could quite understand her support of him, but the older I get, the wiser I get, and I don't judge her.....I think you don't stop loving a person because of what they do, sometimes you love them in spite of what they have done. She loved her son, and she still loves her grandson.

I prolly made a mess of explaining that. :( And I'm not even sure how relevant it is.....but I think of that once in a while. I miss Nancy, my friend.

So sorry to hear about your friend, Savannah. :rose:
This GM knows the difference between love and approval, I would bet. Along with countless other prison visitors.


I believe ...true... love is always "in spite of" as well as "because of." Even in good relationships.
imo

[OneUp]

That's sweet Dunnie. I agree. Cindy cannot accept Caylee's death. She's got a hard road ahead of her because she WILL have to accept it at some point. And her daughter will be serving a long, long, long sentence in prison. Very sad, all the way around.

Since we're telling personal stories here....about 15 years ago my very best friend and her husband were shot to death by their son, who was 17 at the time. The husband's mother (the boy's grandmother) was of course devastated. But she still to this day continues to visit the grandson in prison, and still loves him. She does accept that he murdered her son. I never could quite understand her support of him, but the older I get, the wiser I get, and I don't judge her.....I think you don't stop loving a person because of what they do, sometimes you love them in spite of what they have done. She loved her son, and she still loves her grandson.

I prolly made a mess of explaining that. :( And I'm not even sure how relevant it is.....but I think of that once in a while. I miss Nancy, my friend.I can only speak for myself, but I have never felt that Cindy should quit loving her daughter or turn her back on her. I believe Cindy should be more concerned with the needs of a missing Child than those of an adult ( whose safety would not be an issue were she still in jail. Her happiness might be, but her safety wouldn't.).
An adults first responsibility is to protect the children in their family , not the other adults. IMO, unconditional love does not equal enabling inexcusable behavior.
You are correct...Cindy will have to either face the awful truth sometime or lose her mind trying not to... a terrible thing in any case. I cannot imagine living with the guilt Cindy will carry the rest of her days...I've never really forgiven myself for not setting my alarm and locking the doors to my home that day my darling was stolen. That small omission haunts me every day. The burdens Cindy will face seem too terrible to be born, I hope she finds a relationship with God so she has a prayer for survival.
JMO.
My heartfelt condolences on the tragic death of your friend. I'm sure her family, and her community were devastated.:rose:

[jammies]

Very generous of them. It still doesn't stand to reason that total strangers on a message board have more concern or more of a stake than Caylee's grandparents.


EXACTLY! It DOESN'T stand to "reason, that's for sure!

[steffaroob4]

It was an RDP - Random Dead Person. Happens to me all the time. I'll go out to my car and find a rotting corpse in the back, two-three times a month at least. :rolleyes:


Come on, admit it, it only happens when you get your car impounded, we all know there is no safer place to put a body than a car, when you have NO idea when the owners will come retrieve it.

I am mad LE hasn't given us any leaks this weekend.

[day2day]

THANK GOD! IMpartial-I can't thank you enough for saying that. I have to walk away from this board often because of ridiculous statements like that..

Idol..
You must feel our frustration? I know people who have drove all night to get to Florida to help search for Caylee. They offered their time, they paid their own way..to help the Anthony's. It is heartbreaking when people like the volunteers from this board and many others travel so far to help and the Anthony's have done nothing but run off at the mouth?

The solution to this whole mess is laying right in the Anthony home. And out there somewhere is little Caylee....where is she?
:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

Very generous of them. It still doesn't stand to reason that total strangers on a message board have more concern or more of a stake than Caylee's grandparents.


I don't recall anyone posting anything about having a "stake" in Caylee's case. Concern, yes. Obvious, open concern, absolutely. JMO.

[day2day]

Of course..but still ask for donations.

Donations for THEIR search. Cash, gift cards, WATER. They have now changed their page and are selling t-shirts and bracelets...yet they continue to post their address for donations.
THEY can change the page..but the info is saved by many. They cannot cover their tracks here.

jmo

[rosejustrose]

I've seen no concern since the first 911 call from the family actually.


Oh, I've seen concern ~ for Casey and their grass. JMO.

[Amy]

:rose:
You got that right!

Especially the part "you would have left your daughter in jail."

I would still love my child but abhor what she has probably done...and under lock and key she'd be!

Trust me...as much as I love my kids....neither of them would want to stay 1 night under this roof with these allegations hanging over their heads'.

We WOULD talk!

The A's haven't bonded their daughter out of jail. First time was the bounty hunter, second a anonymous person (and I don't think the A's had the resources to be the anon.) I never did read who posted this last bond, but unless the A's got some advances on their book/movie/interview deals, I don't suppose they paid this one, either.

[day2day]

I dont care if the Anthonys coddle Casey at all...I* dont care that shes at home..her time is coming. I do care that the family isnt searching and attacked Tim and others for doing what they themselves arent doing.

I also find taking donations for a non existant search to be wrong to.

According to their flyer....they even have the date WRONG
last seen-June 9, 2008
lordhelpme...

jmo

[luvinlife]

IIRC, reportedly the A family refused to supply TES an article of Caylee's clothing or alternate sample for scent dog use in victim tracking. Maybe all laundered.
:shrug:



Someone from channel 2 news told the lady that stole the Anthony garbage that Tim had something of Caylee's, don't have a link so moo

[martha]

:rose:
You got that right!

Especially the part "you would have left your daughter in jail."

I would still love my child but abhor what she has probably done...and under lock and key she'd be!

Trust me...as much as I love my kids....neither of them would want to stay 1 night under this roof with these allegations hanging over their heads'.

We WOULD talk! I am with you on this one 100% my daughter would want to be as far from me as she could get. The only things is my son and daughter or better parents than I was ever. I am so prowd of them. They would both kill for their children. It makes me feel so very good to see all the love that they have for their children. They say I taught them that now not to sure about that but anyway. The love is so great in our family and I thnak God for that. I know they would tell the truth about what ever happened an matter what they had to face. They have always had own what they did. They put God first in their home and lives. I pray for them all the time. I would be in a crazy house if something like this happened to me.jmho:rose:

[steffaroob4]

According to their flyer....they even have the date WRONG
last seen-June 9, 2008
lordhelpme...

jmo

really, let me find that site again. somebody needs to straighten these people out

so weird, does anyone have a picture of that mobile billboard?

[jammies]

really, let me find that site again. somebody needs to straighten these people out

If they are sticking by the 9th that sure makes GA's story just that....a story.

[WillowInFlight]

The A's haven't bonded their daughter out of jail. First time was the bounty hunter, second a anonymous person (and I don't think the A's had the resources to be the anon.) I never did read who posted this last bond, but unless the A's got some advances on their book/movie/interview deals, I don't suppose they paid this one, either.
But if the Anthony's refused to house her she probably wouldn't have gotten out, but then again maybe Baez would have put her up.

[Texas48]

I know that all the very smart minds on this board can help me with a question. If...and I only say IF..Casey has told her attorney the truth and where Cayle can be located..alive/deceased....is the attorney, by law, obligated to tell LE where they can find this baby? I know he cannot give any of the details or even how he knows where the body is but does he not have to tell LE the locaton of the body?

[luvinlife]

Thank you for the link, the only thing that bothers me with that is it doesn't seem to have been update since 9/6.



I have never seen this information given by media or LE that was stated like this. It was said imo that the evidence they had did not come from the stain, maybe I missed it:shrug:

[day2day]

really, let me find that site again. somebody needs to straighten these people out

www.helpfindcaylee.com

[Katprint]

But if the Anthony's refused to house her she probably wouldn't have gotten out, but then again maybe Baez would have put her up.
Or maybe she would have asked her online supporters for housing donations so she could (finally) get a place of her own. Maybe one of the vacant Sawgrass Apartments. Someplace with a sturdy fence to keep out protesters.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[day2day]

I know that all the very smart minds on this board can help me with a question. If...and I only say IF..Casey has told her attorney the truth and where Cayle can be located..alive/deceased....is the attorney, by law, obligated to tell LE where they can find this baby? I know he cannot give any of the details or even how he knows where the body is but does he not have to tell LE the locaton of the body?

Absolutely not. He can't say a word. :(

[rosejustrose]

I know that all the very smart minds on this board can help me with a question. If...and I only say IF..Casey has told her attorney the truth and where Cayle can be located..alive/deceased....is the attorney, by law, obligated to tell LE where they can find this baby? I know he cannot give any of the details or even how he knows where the body is but does he not have to tell LE the locaton of the body?


I don't know that he could tell LE under the provisions of client/attorney confidentiality. But, there would be nothing stopping him from phoning in an anonymous tip. JMO.

[WillowInFlight]

really, let me find that site again. somebody needs to straighten these people out

so weird, does anyone have a picture of that mobile billboard?

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/help. it says the 9th if you read the English version of the flier

[OneUp]

FrankiBones1, this is what Dr Kobilinsky said on September 2nd about hair from a decomposing body.

"Well, again, I haven`t seen their physical evidence. But we do know that hair from somebody who was deceased will develop a banding pattern. And under the microscope, it looks like a dark band. It`s actually parallel lines of air sacs, very interesting. And the problem is, is there`s not a lot of research done on this. We really doesn`t know what other conditions might cause such a banding pattern in hair, . It gets darker and darker. So there`s a good indication that it comes from decomposition, but a lot of questions."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html
"although what we know now is that, certainly, it does form between 8 hours and 3 days"
That really jumps out...between 8 hours and 3 days Caylee lay in the trunk of that car.:( * hours to 3 days that her MOTHER drove around with her tiny corpse in her car. That is monsterous behavior.

I realize this evidence has not been proven beyond any doubt, but it is pretty compelling. W/o launching into a lerngthy discussion, I cannot impart on everyone how specific and detailed research must be before it becomes and accepted methodology. Most methods undergo repetitive testing to the extreme...far more clinical trials than you might think before being considered sound by the Scientific community.

I called my Uncle Jimmy Lish again, asked him to look over the "hair banding" research. He thought it is very sound and that's good enough for me ( He's a Proff. of Biology/anatomy @ OSU). He said the only way he could see any other way for the hair to be contaminated is if it were to lay in decomp. after falling from a live person AND that to create the "banding" it would have to be "suspended" perpendicular to the decomp. puddle (i.e. Hanging straight down into it)...otherwise the decomp would infect sporadic areas, not form a ring.
There is no one BUT casey or Caylee that hair can belong to...and we KNOW FOR A FACT that Casey is still alive.
Simple logic...I just refuse to refute my logic, and sound science to believe in happy thigs that give me the warm fuzzies.
If you have made it to my ignore it is either because you are caustic and offer no input or opinions, or because you continually suspend logic and refuse to even consider any facts.
JMO.

[Texas48]

I would do the same. ITA..dealth is so hard to deal with but never to know one way or the other would be a nightmare without end. The unknown I could never survive. JMO

[Katprint]

I know that all the very smart minds on this board can help me with a question. If...and I only say IF..Casey has told her attorney the truth and where Cayle can be located..alive/deceased....is the attorney, by law, obligated to tell LE where they can find this baby? I know he cannot give any of the details or even how he knows where the body is but does he not have to tell LE the locaton of the body?
Not unless the attorney moves (or arranges the move of) the body. As long as he leaves everything where it is then he can remain mum on that.

ETA: If the child is still alive, then he would be incompetent not to 1) nail down the child's location and 2) persuade his client to reveal the child's location. The best defense to murder is proof that the victim is still alive.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Armchairdet]

It scares me when I think about how close the family came to sweeping this under a rug. I honestly believe if Cindy had not called 911 that night in anger at Casey, that Lee and Casey would have convinced her not to. But the cat was out of the bag, and so they ran with the stories and distractions.

It is possible Amy or someone would have asked about her. But maybe not, because she would have not been friends with Casey after the theft. But I believe Amy would have let Cindy pay her back and then drop it.

It even crossed my mind that Amy told Cindy she wanted to press charges, and once Cindy found out Caylee was missing, she felt calling LE was more to cover their butts, than to actually find Caylee. In other words if Amy had pressed charges, and Casey was arrested, (just say) then child services may (I say MAY) have done a check before leaving Caylee with George and Cindy, and since they could not produce her, and so could not take that chance.


I don't know. Just an opinion, thought really.

[Unperson1984]

I know that all the very smart minds on this board can help me with a question. If...and I only say IF..Casey has told her attorney the truth and where Cayle can be located..alive/deceased....is the attorney, by law, obligated to tell LE where they can find this baby? I know he cannot give any of the details or even how he knows where the body is but does he not have to tell LE the locaton of the body?

No, he is not compelled to disclose anything he has heard from his client, except for very rare exceptions.

[True2Blues]

I don't recall anyone posting anything about having a "stake" in Caylee's case. Concern, yes. Obvious, open concern, absolutely. JMO.


The only stake I've seen is the Anthony's financial stake, since they are standing on this innocent child to make money off of her, while making no effort to find her. It's despicable and so are they.

[rosejustrose]

www.helpfindcaylee.com

They must have updated it because it says missing since June 16. JMO.

[?noanswer]

snipping to address.

Who bonded Casey? It sure wasn't Cindy and George. JMO.

IIRC, Cindy and George were the anonymous guarantors of two 250,000. bonds. They signed promissory notes for the $50,000. fee. JMO

[rosejustrose]

The only stake I've seen is the Anthony's financial stake, since they are standing on this innocent child to make money off of her, while making no effort to find her. It's despicable and so are they.


And the wooden stakes holding up the tape!

[kakax]

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The violent protesters confronting Casey Anthony outside her house will no longer be tolerated. Late Friday afternoon, the sheriff's office told Eyewitness News it's going to push for prosecuting people who taunted and provoked the grandfather of Caylee Anthony.

The sheriff's office said it's pushing for charges in the incident very early Thursday morning when a protester grabbed George Anthony.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17515488/detail.html

[True2Blues]

And the wooden stakes holding up the tape!


Oh yes, those as well! :)

[Ionmhainn]

I believe you are correct.

I had understood that the stain was believed to be blood.

And that LE was not releasing all of the evidence yet.


I've "heard" this stain described as blood, bodily fluids...but only on message boards. Has there been anything from LE calling it anything other than "a stain?" TIA

[rosejustrose]

IIRC, Cindy and George were the anonymous guarantors of two 250,000. bonds. They signed promissory notes for the $50,000. fee. JMO

But, they would have had to show proof that they could cover the $500K+ if Casey skipped, IMO. During testimony, Cindy said the house was appraised at $179K that's not enough to cover the bond. Someone else had to meet the ability to pay requirements, IMO.

[baywench]

Has it ever been established the Casey HAD a JOB within the past 2-3 years?


No and that's really the point. If she were a call girl she would have had to leave Caylee with someone. She pretended to go to work during the day which I don't think is primetime for hookers (but I could be wrong). If she had a job...any kind of job...she would have to have had a legitamate babysitter and would not have had to make up Zanni. She could have provided records that someone was watching Caylee and that she paid someone. jmo

[Lilly12]

They raised Caylee, took care of and loved her for her entire life. Did you?


They didn't do a good job, did they. moo

[tiny paw-prints]

If they are sticking by the 9th that sure makes GA's story just that....a story.

Interesting!

And, does anyone know why this forum reads:

Caylee Anthony, 2, Orange, Cty, FL, 6-2-08 ??

:shrug:

[impartial]

I go back and forth in my opinion about the A's denial or lack of. My brother was killed 3 years ago when a young lady pulled her SUV in front of him as he was riding his motorcycle down a mountain highway. His body was in such bad shape it was recommended that we not view him for identity purposes. The Dr. at the hospital knew him as his wife worked there as an RN and he did the ID for us. To this day, even though my mom KNOWS he died, can't help but wonder if he somehow "ran away" (which would have been TOTALLY unlike him). That glimmer of hope won't die somehow. :rose: For my brother and mother.


For your mother and brother :rose:


We go through denial even when there is absolute proof ... I can't possibly judge someone in denial when there is no concrete proof.

IMO

[WillowInFlight]

They must have updated it because it says missing since June 16. JMO.
The online flier still says the 9th :shrug:

[jammies]

It scares me when I think about how close the family came to sweeping this under a rug. I honestly believe if Cindy had not called 911 that night in anger at Casey, that Lee and Casey would have convinced her not to. But the cat was out of the bag, and so they ran with the stories and distractions.

It is possible Amy or someone would have asked about her. But maybe not, because she would have not been friends with Casey after the theft. But I believe Amy would have let Cindy pay her back and then drop it.

It even crossed my mind that Amy told Cindy she wanted to press charges, and once Cindy found out Caylee was missing, she felt calling LE was more to cover their butts, than to actually find Caylee. In other words if Amy had pressed charges, and Casey was arrested, (just say) then child services may (I say MAY) have done a check before leaving Caylee with George and Cindy, and since they could not produce her, and so could not take that chance.


I don't know. Just an opinion, thought really.



I believe if GA had been home at the time, the 911 call would not have been made. IMO

[steffaroob4]

www.helpfindcaylee.com

the kidfinder network made that, I would think it would be easy to fix, I wonder why the A's haven't fixed it.

Poster (http://missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1100742&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US) from National Center for Missing & Exploited Children says 9th, too.

LE official poster (http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547) is 9th:shrug:

[luvinlife]

I've "heard" this stain described as blood, bodily fluids...but only on message boards. Has there been anything from LE calling it anything other than "a stain?" TIA


Not that I can recall, I have been looking. Only a couple of news articles talked about the stain,not all and I can't find info from LE

[SavannahStar]

That's just so true of life in general. I have known for a few weeks that my youngest daughter is being redployed to the Gulf on the 1st of october. I really surprised myself that I didn't cry or really feel alot of emotion this time and then last night I was working on an afghan I was making her and realized she wouldn't be needing in the desert and just couldn't stop crying. Out of NOWHERE. jmo


For your daughter Bay :patriot::rose:

[jammies]

Interesting!

And, does anyone know why this forum reads:

Caylee Anthony, 2, Orange, Cty, FL, 6-2-08 ??

:shrug:

Never noticed...but now that you mention it...????

[baywench]

I believe if GA had been home at the time, the 911 call would not have been made. IMO


IIRC GA did tell the cops that he was afraid something had happened to his granddaughter when they responded. At that point he wouldn't have known she was dead (imo) so I don't believe GA was involved in the cover up early on. jmo

[dixielover]

I was trying to explain this case to my daughter and she says-"hollywood couldn't make up a script this good". She did mention that all it needed was a jail break. teenagers:shrug:

[?noanswer]

But, they would have had to show proof that they could cover the $500K+ if Casey skipped, IMO. During testimony, Cindy said the house was appraised at $179K that's not enough to cover the bond. Someone else had to meet the ability to pay requirements, IMO.

The bonding companys would have to pay the $500,000. JMO

[True2Blues]

No and that's really the point. If she were a call girl she would have had to leave Caylee with someone. She pretended to go to work during the day which I don't think is primetime for hookers (but I could be wrong). If she had a job...any kind of job...she would have to have had a legitamate babysitter and would not have had to make up Zanni. She could have provided records that someone was watching Caylee and that she paid someone. jmo

I don't think Casey was ever a call girl. I don't think she got paid for it, I think she gave away to any and all who wanted it and determined it meant she was beautiful desirable. Though of course, what it means is she was easy and everyone knew it.

She may have been sitting on a goldmine, but I don't think she took advantage of it.

[baywench]

For your daughter Bay :patriot::rose:

Thanks SS. She is not at all upset she is going. :)

[True2Blues]

IIRC GA did tell the cops that he was afraid something had happened to his granddaughter when they responded. At that point he wouldn't have known she was dead (imo) so I don't believe GA was involved in the cover up early on. jmo

He also told them he didn't think Casey was telling all there was to tell.

[steffaroob4]

Interesting!

And, does anyone know why this forum reads:

Caylee Anthony, 2, Orange, Cty, FL, 6-2-08 ??

:shrug:

I don't know and I am for sure NOT gonna ask CW, either:chicken:

[?noanswer]

Who signs and who fronts the money are two different things.

Yes, there is an anonymous person who is backing that Bond.

The Anthonys are the anonymous person(s) who signed promissory notes for two $250,000 bonds. The bonding companys would be responsible for paying the $500,000 if Casey skipped. JMO

[trich]

The A's haven't bonded their daughter out of jail. First time was the bounty hunter, second a anonymous person (and I don't think the A's had the resources to be the anon.) I never did read who posted this last bond, but unless the A's got some advances on their book/movie/interview deals, I don't suppose they paid this one, either.

The anthonys signed a promisory note .
so if somethng happens they will be responsible for the bond to whoever did put the money up.
A comapny called Macdonald bonded Casey for the other charges..

[LeeAnn62]

Someone posted this link a few days ago.
:D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cszWlq-Nds

That is just too funny.....Thanks for the laugh thoughout this horrible ordeal!!

God Bless Caylee :rose:

[baywench]

I don't think Casey was ever a call girl. I don't think she got paid for it, I think she gave away to any and all who wanted it and determined it meant she was beautiful desirable. Though of course, what it means is she was easy and everyone knew it.

She may have been sitting on a goldmine, but I don't think she took advantage of it.


I don't believe it was her choice how quicky these guys got out of her life either. She is shallow and has no soul. They may have had sex with her but they didn't seem to interested in staying around for alot of pillow talk. I'm sure she is very boring. Vapid is all I can think of jmo

[SavannahStar]

Anyone who disagrees with the masses here is automatically a member of the Anthony family according to you.

That lame accusation appears on every board, it's just a matter of when, with a different family name attached, that's all.

That is 100% correct. And it's SO lame..... "are you Cindy?" :rolleyes: (I seldom use those rolling eyes but when I hear stuff like that, I gotta do it.)

[barskin&co.]

I don't believe it was her choice how quicky these guys got out of her life either. She is shallow and has no soul. They may have had sex with her but they didn't seem to interested in staying around for alot of pillow talk. I'm sure she is very boring. Vapid is all I can think of jmo

Both Ricardo and Tony said she was too clingy.

[kakax]

Could we see George and Cindy Anthony suffer breakdowns on camera?

That thought must have crossed your mind if you've been following the saga of their missing granddaughter, Caylee Anthony. George and Cindy so often seem at the breaking point. I'm sure a psychological meltdown would please the viewers who detest the Anthonys or fault them for daughter Casey Anthony's strange behavior. (Cindy is pictured.)

For weeks, Casey has refused to say what happened to Caylee. The thinking goes: How could the grandparents not have realized there was a crisis?

The grandparents have remained in the headlines because of the protests outside their home in East Orange County. There was another fight Friday night between the Anthonys' neighbors and demonstrators.

Strangely enough, though, the protests probably generated some sympathy for the grandparents. Perhaps a discussion on Monday's "Dr. Phil" will bring them more. (It airs at 7 p.m. on WKMG-Channel 6.) The grandparents hired defense attorney Mark NeJame to help them with media issues, and NeJame appears on "Dr. Phil."

NeJame was the rare TV guest who could hold his own with Nancy Grace of CNN Headline News. NeJame knows how to conduct himself in front of a camera; he used to be married to former WESH-Channel 2 anchor Wendy Chioji.

NeJame had to be happy about a bit of coverage Friday night on WFTV-Channel 9. Chief Mark Strobridge of the Orange County Sheriff's Office asked protesters to be reasonable. Then he added: "George and Cindy are victims. We need to remind the world that that's truly the case."

Do you agree?

The e-mails I receive usually suggest there's just one victim here: the missing girl, who hasn't been seen for months.

NeJame had his work cut out for him in trying to help the grandparents. Before he arrived, they set an example, all right: This is how NOT to deal with the media. They offered bewildering answers or behavior in interviews. And some readers have opined that the grandparents enjoy the attention.

Even now, the grandparents keep doing perplexing things. Engaging with protesters just provides more footage for media outlets. And why, oh why, would Cindy carry a bat in facing the protesters? Cindy's interview with Univision was another strange twist.

Memo to the grandparents: Calling NeJame before making any media moves.

But the wisest thing for them to do? Go away. Or at least stay away from the media.

One way to start could be found in a WFTV report: Kathi Belich reported that the homeowners association had asked the Anthonys to stop holding prayer vigils outside their home. Those vigils always bring the media.

Also on Friday, WKMG reported that NeJame met with the sheriff's office about the protests and the escalating tensions. Reporter Louis Bolden said the sheriff's office was trying to come up with a strategy on the protests. Bolden noted that County Commissioner Linda Stewart has suggested a curfew in the neighborhood.

On Saturday morning, WESH-Channel 2 and WFTV reported that protesters and Anthony neighbors had faced off Friday night. Demonstrators reacted when George Anthony came out to give water to the Guardian Angels. The Guardian Angels stepped in to break up the fight. WFTV had footage of a protester daring a neighbor to hit him.

WFTV also reported that a Winter Park law firm has closed a trust fund to help search for Caylee -- a move that upset the grandparents. The firm wanted to help the family, but faced criticism from angry bloggers and callers. The law firm is looking for another group to take over the trust fund.

It's just very hard for many people to feel sympathy for the grandparents. Ultimately, it isn't a matter of media skills -- it's one of truth. People want it, and they think the grandparents have it. And, thus, the bad feelings toward George and Cindy Anthony.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/post-3.html

[forensicnut]

My son purchased a blackjack around the end of May - lst part of June. It would not hold a charge. He could charge it all night and within in an hour of it just being turned out, it would be dead. Until he could get back to the AT&T store, he used his old phone.

The AT&T store replaced the battery. The clerk told him AT&T had to replace a bunch of blackjack batteries because they would not hold a charge. There was a defect in the batteries.

I do believe Casey bought a blackjack phone at the AT&T store.

I do not believe she lost it or she does not know what happened to it.

jmo


I thought both phones were provided "through work." At least that's what she said in the interview.

:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

I believe if GA had been home at the time, the 911 call would not have been made. IMO

ITA. George would never have allowed Cindy to make those calls. Darn, Lee even testified he tried to convince his mother not to call. What a total nuthouse, IMO.

[True2Blues]

I don't believe it was her choice how quicky these guys got out of her life either. She is http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=340818shallow and has no soul. They may have had sex with her but they didn't seem to interested in staying around for alot of pillow talk. I'm sure she is very boring. Vapid is all I can think of jmo

I think you're right.

[Lilly12]

The great grandparents are branches on the apple tree.


Maybe she was referring to Cindy's branch only. moo

[rosejustrose]

the kidfinder network made that, I would think it would be easy to fix, I wonder why the A's haven't fixed it.

Poster (http://missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1100742&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US) from National Center for Missing & Exploited Children says 9th, too.

LE official poster (http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547) is 9th:shrug:

It's just not that important to them, IMO. Keeping those donations rolling in is what matters. JMO.

[Ionmhainn]

Not that I can recall, I have been looking. Only a couple of news articles talked about the stain,not all and I can't find info from LE


Thanks for the reply. I haven't found anything either. There was some discussion a while back, but IIRC it was along the lines of "IF the stain came from bodily fluids." Maybe it didn't? :shrug:
mo

[Rayosunshine]

They sure aren't showing any love right now. She's been missing for 96days and what have they done to find her. NOTHING:seeya:

Think maybe LE instructed them to stay out of the investigation?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[concernedmom]

I've been every member of the Anthony family so far, and if the posters here thought that the Anthony dogs could type, they'd accuse me of being them next. ;)

If your're Casey, this is for you.:punch::tongue:

[luvinlife]

Thanks for the reply. I haven't found anything either. There was some dicussion a while back, but IIRC it was along the lines of "IF the stain came from bodily fluids." Maybe it didn't? :shrug:
mo



All I know IIRC is that the evidence they say they have did not come from the stain.

[rj1212]

Yes, the Anthonys did do a good job taking care of Caylee - she didn't disappear under their watch.

No...but the Anthony's had another "baby" who disappeared under their watch...Casey Anthony...who unfortunately left with Caylee...

[concernedmom]

Where is everyone hearing their is going to be a big shindig tonight?

[rosejustrose]

That is 100% correct. And it's SO lame..... "are you Cindy?" :rolleyes: (I seldom use those rolling eyes but when I hear stuff like that, I gotta do it.)


I agree. I don't think they're Anthony family members. The Anthonys aren't smart enough to string two comprehensible sentences together like these guys can. I think they're called trolls, IMO.

[st777jo]

If this vigil tonight happens, lets hope and pray its peaceful. And the A's stay inside.

[impartial]

Where is everyone hearing their is going to be a big shindig tonight?


I have seen you ask this several times today ... I think you and I are the only ones that are out of the loop on this.

Please, someone answer Concernedmom's question.

TIA

[Rayosunshine]

It's true. It can be used as a party drug. Kind of like that stuff that you inhale to wake you up when you had a heart attack or something. That one is called amil nitrate (sp?). One sniff and you're awake.

Dunnie, you cracked me up with, "to wake you up when you had a heart attack". Sounds like it would wake the dead. Amyl nitrite is also used in cyanide poisoning.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[day2day]

They must have updated it because it says missing since June 16. JMO.

on my puter the flyer says june 9...
:punch: <---for me ?!!?

[baywench]

That's the thing that's amused me the most here, people claiming that the Anthonys have tossed Caylee away in place of Casey, when in truth, nothing the Anthonys have done has hampered LE or any P.I. from locating Caylee, dead or alive.

What the Grandparents are giving Caylee is hope.

That's all they have, or should be expected to have, and hope comes from love.


Nothing they have done has hampered the investigation? You've gotta be kidding. Either way Caylee doesn't need their "hopes" right now. She needs someone to find her and their daughter holds all the keys to that. The only hope they are keeping alive is Casey's hopes that the body will never be found imo

[rosejustrose]

I have seen you ask this several times today ... I think you and I are the only ones that are out of the loop on this.

Please, someone answer Concernedmom's question.

TIA


Mine, too. I haven't heard of any big things planned for tonight, IMO.

[luvinlife]

I have seen you ask this several times today ... I think you and I are the only ones that are out of the loop on this.

Please, someone answer Concernedmom's question.

TIA


I believe someone (don't remember who) posted a Craigslist ad that said go to the Anthony's tonight for one last time with flowers etc and have a memorial for Caylee

[Regina.Lampert]

I have seen you ask this several times today ... I think you and I are the only ones that are out of the loop on this.

Please, someone answer Concernedmom's question.

TIA

[Someone posted a link to another board in Florida whose members are planning a final demonstration at the anthony home described as a Memorial to Caylee. They suggested everyone bring flowers, stuffed toys and candles iirc. They will lay them at the foot of the driveway. It starts at 7:00 p.m.

[concernedmom]

If I recall correctly there is a memorial for Caylee planned for 7 pm in front of the Anthonys.


I wish NG would be live tonight.:mad:

[st777jo]

That's the thing that's amused me the most here, people claiming that the Anthonys have tossed Caylee away in place of Casey, when in truth, nothing the Anthonys have done has hampered LE or any P.I. from locating Caylee, dead or alive.

What the Grandparents are giving Caylee is hope.

That's all they have, or should be expected to have, and hope comes from love.

I have never seen hope nor love betrayed or portrayed as given by the A's. jmo

[dixie77]

Yes, the Anthonys did do a good job taking care of Caylee - she didn't disappear under their watch.
================================================== ===

U dont know that for sure.

[Rayosunshine]

I’d love to know who this Paragon is who put up $500,000 :flamemad:


Hotwater

Maybe LP's friend Geraldo?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[rosejustrose]

on my puter the flyer says june 9...
:punch: <---for me ?!!?


Nope, for me:punch: I didn't open the fliers. My bad!

[Ionmhainn]

[QUOTE=C_E;12155655]

<respectfully snipped>


The decomposition fluids in the trunk yielded epithelial cells that came from the inside of someone’s nose and mouth. The DNA from that fluid, from those cells, is consistent with Caylee’s.

QUOTE]

Can you please provide the link for this information? TIA

[desmom]

I thought both phones were provided "through work." At least that's what she said in the interview.

:shrug:


She told Lee, in one of the released tapes, she purchased the phone at AT&T.

jm

[Libertie]

A terrible thought that keeps coming into my mind is that, as none of us knows what really happened to little Caylee, is it possible that, if it were an accident, she was still alive and could have been saved at one point? Yes, it IS a possibility.

[day2day]

That's the thing that's amused me the most here, people claiming that the Anthonys have tossed Caylee away in place of Casey, when in truth, nothing the Anthonys have done has hampered LE or any P.I. from locating Caylee, dead or alive.

What the Grandparents are giving Caylee is hope.

That's all they have, or should be expected to have, and hope comes from love.

HOPE ..you MUST be kidding? They aren't even searching for her? Like LE said..do you think she is gonna take a cab home?
JMOhammer

[baywench]

Why try to apply logic with those who have demonstrated that they lack that function in their mental make up?
The masses seem to have been whipped into a frenzy by her nastiness to the point that they wouldn't accept a live Caylee, under any circumstance.
moo


What a completely ridiculous statement GMAB

[rosejustrose]

Nothing they have done has hampered the investigation? You've gotta be kidding. Either way Caylee doesn't need their "hopes" right now. She needs someone to find her and their daughter holds all the keys to that. The only hope they are keeping alive is Casey's hopes that the body will never be found imo

ITA. Well said. That's the only hope they have, that Caylee's body will never be found and Casey won't be sent to prison for murder. But, dear little Casey is still looking at a long prison stretch on those other charges, IMO.

[impartial]

If I recall correctly there is a memorial for Caylee planned for 7 pm in front of the Anthonys.


Thanks C_E.

:seeya:

[Rayosunshine]

I don't know that he could tell LE under the provisions of client/attorney confidentiality. But, there would be nothing stopping him from phoning in an anonymous tip. JMO.

Wonder if an attorney could resign from a case, then tell LE?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[concernedmom]

With all that solid evidence, you'd think an arrest for murder would have been made by now, eh.

Scoob I think they are waiting to find Caylees body since time is on their side. My thoughts are they will wait until time for her neglect trial to start and up the charges then. jmo

[dixielover]

Why try to apply logic with those who have demonstrated that they lack that function in their mental make up?
The masses seem to have been whipped into a frenzy by her nastiness to the point that they wouldn't accept a live Caylee, under any circumstance.
moo

I pray for a live Caylee- would you like to tell us where to look - oh yeah the Anthonys state if they tell us where she is - she might be in danger. Now that is logical thinking.:flamemad:

[Joan Weiss]

I wish NG would be live tonight.:mad:Last Saturday, IIRC, it was. It was called "NG Weekend." Anyone recall that?

[tiny paw-prints]

Yes, the Anthonys did do a good job taking care of Caylee - she didn't disappear under their watch.

Really? How can you be absolutelysure? Do you have any proof that Casey physically left the house with Caylee?

And if so, on what day?

The Father's Day video depicts Caylee last seen on June 15. George said he physically saw Casey and Caylee on June 16. The vehicle is registered to Cindy Anthony. Do you have proof that Casey took the car on June 15? And if so, did she have Caylee with her? George said the decomp "smell of dead" body was not his granddaughter. How does he know for absolute sure?

Chloroform? George was previously employed with a Pest Control Company?

[rj1212]

Casey is Caylee's mother, and is also of legal age - so once again, the logical mind should tell you that the Anthonys are not to blame for Caylee's disappearance.

Uh huh....of legal age w/no job, and was living w/ the Anthony's w/Caylee while living a lie...Cindy took care of Caylee...just look at the myspace entry from early July from Cindy that is sooo telling about who raised who...my point is clear...the Anthony's were still raising Casey too...regardless of her age...as they still are at this very minute while Caylee is still missing. The Anthony's are attempting to take away any consequence that Casey should bear from being deceptive concerning Casey...instead sending us to search for Casey in NY, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Texas and every other place that takes the focus off of Casey.

I'm waiting for them to send us to Mars... :rolleyes:

Logically, the Anthony's haven't helped find Caylee...especially over the past SEVERAL WEEKS.

[nc1948]

I dont care if the Anthonys coddle Casey at all...I* dont care that shes at home..her time is coming. I do care that the family isnt searching and attacked Tim and others for doing what they themselves arent doing.

I also find taking donations for a non existant search to be wrong to.

donations that can be sent to their home, also selling t-shirts and arm bands. This makes me sick. Disclaimer says monies will only be spent on searching and not on defense fund. Guess they have been reading on forums to put that in there.

But what has they spent donations on? They are selling the shirts. They did not give out water to searchers (only neighbors at protest last night) I think the rolling board is donated. Have not seen them putting up any of the posters. Please tell me how the GP are helping bring this child home.

[impartial]

Thanks to all posters who responded to the memorial planned for tonight.

Much appreciated !!!!!

[rosejustrose]

[Someone posted a link to another board in Florida whose members are planning a final demonstration at the anthony home described as a Memorial to Caylee. They suggested everyone bring flowers, stuffed toys and candles iirc. They will lay them at the foot of the driveway. It starts at 7:00 p.m.


Dear God in Heaven!! I sure do hope LE is there in force and that the Anthonys keep their sorry butts indoors. They can dispose of all the flowers, candles and stuffed animals tomorrow, when the memorial attendees are long gone, IMO.

[luvinlife]

I’d love to know who this Paragon is who put up $500,000 :flamemad:


Hotwater


IMO someone who believes that LP did the wrong thing pulling the bail on Casey. LP said the insurance company did it because of the danger (protestors), whoever it was believed it was done because LP now thought she was quilty and that is not what bail is about. So maybe a lawyer or someone who wants the bail bondsman do the job they are supposed to do and not make it about innocence or quilt.

Now I wish they hadn't done it, but I believe this was why it was done.

[baywench]

Is this type of post commonplace on these boards? Usually community boards such as this one appears to be, have moderators who find the time to police members who find it humorous to bash posters with opposing viewpoints.
:shrug:

You need to read the TOS....since you've never been here before:rolleyes:

[Regina.Lampert]

Dear God in Heaven!! I sure do hope LE is there in force and that the Anthonys keep their sorry butts indoors. They can dispose of all the flowers, candles and stuffed animals tomorrow, when the memorial attendees are long gone, IMO.

I am very interested in what boneheaded maneuver the anthonys will make with these flowers and stuffed animals.

[impartial]

Wonder if an attorney could resign from a case, then tell LE?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom



The attorney client privilege survives the termination of the relationship ... it even survives beyond the death of the client.

IMO

[rosejustrose]

I have no doubt that we are much saner than you.

Hate breeds hate........Hmmmmmmmm:rolleyes:

[Rayosunshine]

No and that's really the point. If she were a call girl she would have had to leave Caylee with someone. She pretended to go to work during the day which I don't think is primetime for hookers (but I could be wrong). If she had a job...any kind of job...she would have to have had a legitamate babysitter and would not have had to make up Zanni. She could have provided records that someone was watching Caylee and that she paid someone. jmo


Could Zanny/Beba have been the one that set Casey up in the hooker's business? Wonder if the wealthy business men use them during the day or at night, esp. if they have families.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Cury-us Coyote]

[Someone posted a link to another board in Florida whose members are planning a final demonstration at the anthony home described as a Memorial to Caylee. They suggested everyone bring flowers, stuffed toys and candles iirc. They will lay them at the foot of the driveway. It starts at 7:00 p.m.

The CraigList post has been removed.
jmo

[day2day]

I have no doubt that we are much saner than you.

Please no personal attacks.
Carry on.

[dixielover]

Dear God in Heaven!! I sure do hope LE is there in force and that the Anthonys keep their sorry butts indoors. They can dispose of all the flowers, candles and stuffed animals tomorrow, when the memorial attendees are long gone, IMO.


I would love to lay odds on them staying indoors tonight- hopefully I will be wrong.

Just another thing to get there faces on tv and possible new footage or pictures for their movie and book. imo

[st777jo]

You won't see a thing while looking with your eyes wide shut.

But they will be WIDE open when someone in that house goes belly down.

Casey, where is Caylee???

[ann10]

Wonder if an attorney could resign from a case, then tell LE?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom


No. Even if your client dies, attorney client privilege still applies.

[Newclothes]

Is this type of post commonplace on these boards? Usually community boards such as this one appears to be, have moderators who find the time to police members who find it humorous to bash posters with opposing viewpoints.
:shrug:

yes there is...so don't do it...thanks:)

[rj1212]

Caylee does need their hope and she is deserving of that - and all of the nasty, mindless attacks from anyone else isn't going to stop the Anthonys from that hope.

The Anthony's have "hope". They have invested in hope. Hope that Caylee's body is NEVER recovered, because then they can still send us to New York to find Zenaida...etc...

[Ionmhainn]

[QUOTE=Ionmhainn;12155685]


Its a blog.

http://www.dreamindemon.com/2008/08/28/rest-in-peace-caylee-marie-anthony/

I thought it might be. Thanks anyway...

[joolz]

Why try to apply logic with those who have demonstrated that they lack that function in their mental make up?
The masses seem to have been whipped into a frenzy by her nastiness to the point that they wouldn't accept a live Caylee, under any circumstance.
moo


SPEAKING OF LOGIC:

1. I'd bet there isn't one poster here who wouldn't be overjoyed to see a "live Caylee." Many have already said so. Please read back if necessary because your statment is not backed up by fact.:no:

2. "whipped into a frenzy by her nastiness": whose nastiness? Please clarify.

3. "the masses" - LOVE it, who are you , Karl Marx? :lol:

[True2Blues]

Dear God in Heaven!! I sure do hope LE is there in force and that the Anthonys keep their sorry butts indoors. They can dispose of all the flowers, candles and stuffed animals tomorrow, when the memorial attendees are long gone, IMO.

But they might not make the news if they didn't try a confrontation and that's what really seems to matter to the Anthonys.

[Regina.Lampert]

The CraigList post has been removed.
jmo

Really?? :confused:

[crymeariver2006]

The A's haven't bonded their daughter out of jail. First time was the bounty hunter, second a anonymous person (and I don't think the A's had the resources to be the anon.) I never did read who posted this last bond, but unless the A's got some advances on their book/movie/interview deals, I don't suppose they paid this one, either.


One more time....

There is no anonymous donor. Had there been an anonymous donor, he or she would have paid the $50,000 straight to the bailbondsmen. George and Cindy signed a promissory note (a promise to pay) for the $50,000. There would have been no need for such a document IF there was an anonymous donor.

If George and Cindy default on the $50,000, THEY stand to lose everything that they have left. Everything.

IMO, the $50,000 was paid from proceeds from the 20/20 "exclusive rights" to pics and videos.

[mosey2]

The attorney client privilege survives the termination of the relationship ... it even survives beyond the death of the client.

IMO
I think theres a good chance the court would overrule the privilege (after client death) if murder was involved.
MOO

[nutterbutter]

Wonder if an attorney could resign from a case, then tell LE?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
no it would fall under attorney client privledge.
mo

[day2day]

But they might not make the news if they didn't try a confrontation and that's what really seems to matter to the Anthonys.

Smoke and mirrors...so that Caylee is pushed back. Heartrbeaking. Caylee deserves more.

[Newclothes]

No, logically, the Anthonys aren't announcing to the public what they're doing in the way of searching, and that "demand to know!" has SO MANY feathers ruffled it's beyond belief. :)

logically, if Cindy has been out searching she would be on television telling the world!!

[crymeariver2006]

The CraigList post has been removed.
jmo

IF the Anthonys contacted Craigslist and complained, it would have been removed.

Question is, did they?

:shrug:

[FrankieBones1]

[Someone posted a link to another board in Florida whose members are planning a final demonstration at the anthony home described as a Memorial to Caylee. They suggested everyone bring flowers, stuffed toys and candles iirc. They will lay them at the foot of the driveway. It starts at 7:00 p.m.

I tried the link again but it was flagged for removal.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/rnr/847050836.html

Good thing I posted the body of the post here this morning. I'll see if I can find it.

[st777jo]

No, logically, the Anthonys aren't announcing to the public what they're doing in the way of searching, and that "demand to know!" has SO MANY feathers ruffled it's beyond belief. :)

I would venture to say, they have already looked under the beds, in the garden, in the closets, on the computer.

Yep, Caylee is not in that house. Agree???

[Rayosunshine]

I've been every member of the Anthony family so far, and if the posters here thought that the Anthony dogs could type, they'd accuse me of being them next. ;)

Yeah, and dontcha know, I work for the defense.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[SavannahStar]

I think theres a good chance the court would overrule the privilege (after client death) if murder was involved.
MOO

impartial is an attorney, I think she would know.

[Regina.Lampert]

I tried the link again but it was flagged for removal.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/rnr/847050836.html

Good thing I posted the body of the post here this morning. I'll see if I can find it.

Any guesses who had it removed?

[KKKKKKatie]

Hello all :seeya:

I am on vacation in the Virgin Islands and have been away for days. Trying my best to catch up. Thank you to all that post in the links thread.

Could I bother someone for the link to the Casey cam? Thanks!

[ann10]

I think theres a good chance the court would overrule the privilege (after client death) if murder was involved.
MOO


The scenario is absurd. There are very rare exceptions here, which I won't even begin to try and explain.

Basically, it wouldn't happen.

I know, Sarah Caplan.

[FrankieBones1]

I tried the link again but it was flagged for removal.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/rnr/847050836.html

Good thing I posted the body of the post here this morning. I'll see if I can find it.

Quoting myself to let you all know I found it. It was posted here at 12:26pm Today on the morning thread.

Everyone who wants to protest Casey can do it in one final, GRAND show of force.

On Saturday night at 7pm... Everyone come to Caylees driveway with flowers, dolls, cards, etc... create a wall of sympathy FOR CAYLEE and give no attention to the folks who live in the house. Then we all walk away forever. Caylee will have received the memorial service every innocent child should get.

The people who live in that house don't deserve any attention - ANYMORE!

Let the sheriffs office deal with the suspect.

/Turn the page on this tragedy

[day2day]

Hello all :seeya:

I am on vacation in the Virgin Islands and have been away for days. Trying my best to catch up. Thank you to all that post in the links thread.

Could I bother someone for the link to the Casey cam? Thanks!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Welcome home..you really make me sick..lol! The VI's sounds like alot of fun!! :seeya:

[SavannahStar]

Any guesses who had it removed?

Maybe DaddysGirl or Scoobie? They seem to get blamed for a lot. :biggrin:

J/K!!!!!!!!!

[Rayosunshine]

With all that solid evidence, you'd think an arrest for murder would have been made by now, eh.

What "the you know what" are they waiting for?

My s.o. ex ada in Orleans has stated simply, "they don't have jacks..."

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[FrankieBones1]

Thanks C_E.

:seeya:

Bluwaters found the link for us earlier today. It was posted of Craig's List in Orlando. Seems Craig's List took it down for some reason. Maybe they are not permitted to let their members post anything that could result in injury or death.

[SavannahStar]

Can you provide a link to this inside information you have? We would all love to see what the he!! the anthony's are really doing to find their daughter. Please do tell. Then we can all quit posting for today.

Can't quit posting.....gotta stay glued to that webcam ya know....big doings tonight....:read:

[crymeariver2006]

Is this type of post commonplace on these boards? Usually community boards such as this one appears to be, have moderators who find the time to police members who find it humorous to bash posters with opposing viewpoints.
:shrug:

Tell it! Especially the poster who claimed that the "masses are whipped into such a frenzy that they wouldn't accept a live Caylee"....

Oh wait, that was you wasn't it?

:read:

[Rayosunshine]

[QUOTE=C_E;12155655]

<respectfully snipped>


The decomposition fluids in the trunk yielded epithelial cells that came from the inside of someone’s nose and mouth. The DNA from that fluid, from those cells, is consistent with Caylee’s.

QUOTE]

Can you please provide the link for this information? TIA

I hope the information did not come from "a source close to the investigation", cause I don't trust that source.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[KKKKKKatie]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Welcome home..you really make me sick..lol! The VI's sounds like alot of fun!! :seeya:

TY day! Having a great time...but there has been some rain.

Read about the the protester problems last nigh when George brough water out to supporters. They just can't stay out of the limelight can they?

[luvinlife]

logically, if Cindy has been out searching she would be on television telling the world!!



I am not trying to start anything here, but where are they supposed to search.

LE searched the aptartments and everywhere Casey dragged them to.

Casey is either not telling anything or telling more lies. All of which should be forwarded to LE, we do not know if they are or are not.

Any tips that are phoned, emailed or mailed in should be sent to LE, and I believe they are based on the number of tips LE claims to have gotten, but again LE has to check them out, not George and Cindy.

They would also need credible leads and something tells me there probably not any, so what can they do.

They don't want Caylee to be dead and while I think they should have been supportive of the searchers, I can sort of understand the reason they thought it was a waste of time. I don't like what Cindy accused Tim Miller of but I will try and do as Tim has and try to have compassion for them.

We do not know if they have a private investigator or if they have friends following up leads that they get. We don't know if they are on the internet or making calls to other branches of LE based on tips they have recieved and seeing what has come of them.Frankly we don't know what they are doing unless they are on the web cam and or the news.

I blame Casey for NO ONE having any idea where to look for Caylee.

All of the above is MOO and just my perspective on the searching thing. I am not trying to make you believe anything you don't want to believe. (not intended for any one poster)

[KKKKKKatie]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Welcome home..you really make me sick..lol! The VI's sounds like alot of fun!! :seeya:

TY day! Having a great time...but there has been some rain.

Read about the the protester problems last night when George brought water out to supporters. They just can't stay out of the limelight can they?

[Rayosunshine]

Is this type of post commonplace on these boards? Usually community boards such as this one appears to be, have moderators who find the time to police members who find it humorous to bash posters with opposing viewpoints.
:shrug:

Actually these types of posts are the norm here.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[day2day]

TY day! Having a great time...but there has been some rain.

Read about the the protester problems last nigh when George brough water out to supporters. They just can't stay out of the limelight can they?

I so envy you!....I think they all love the attention. It really takes away from the REAL reason the cameras are there-Caylee :(

[mosey2]

impartial is an attorney, I think she would know.
No disrepect intended
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/foster062698.htm


Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, joined by Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, dissented. The attorney-client privilege, O'Connor said, could be overridden after the client's death in criminal cases where there was a "compelling law enforcement need for information" or where defendants need the information to exonerate themselves.

[Joan Weiss]

With all that solid evidence, you'd think an arrest for murder would have been made by now, eh.I think they're working on the accomplice. imo

[desmom]

Hello all :seeya:

I am on vacation in the Virgin Islands and have been away for days. Trying my best to catch up. Thank you to all that post in the links thread.

Could I bother someone for the link to the Casey cam? Thanks!

Here ya go http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[FrankieBones1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lChC4PjQO-4&feature=related

someone was asking last night for the phone records, this is as close as I've gotten to them about the 16th 17th & 18th.

Dots

Had no idea she was back to covering this case. Thanks!

[Motomom]

Hello all :seeya:

I am on vacation in the Virgin Islands and have been away for days. Trying my best to catch up. Thank you to all that post in the links thread.

Could I bother someone for the link to the Casey cam? Thanks!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Have fun..:seeya:

[crymeariver2006]

And one more time, you're wrong.

Who signs for the note has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that there is an anonymous donor.

You apparently don't understand enough about Bonds which is why you continue to post the same old rumors of untruth.

I'm not wrong and you know it.

There is no anonymous donor.

Look it up.

:seeya:

[st777jo]

Grand idea if it would work, but it's not going to stop the punks who go out there half-tanked at 3AM and cause that entire neighborhood grief.

We'll see if this truly does become the final.

It surely would be nice.


Isn't that what Casey called them, punks????

[trich]

Grand idea if it would work, but it's not going to stop the punks who go out there half-tanked at 3AM and cause that entire neighborhood grief.


PUNKS.....there is that word again.....
Makes one wonder doesn't it????
Yes I do have a suspicious mind .....and I think justly so .

[OneUp]

Quoting myself to let you all know I found it. It was posted here at 12:26pm Today on the morning thread.

Everyone who wants to protest Casey can do it in one final, GRAND show of force.

On Saturday night at 7pm... Everyone come to Caylees driveway with flowers, dolls, cards, etc... create a wall of sympathy FOR CAYLEE and give no attention to the folks who live in the house. Then we all walk away forever. Caylee will have received the memorial service every innocent child should get.

The people who live in that house don't deserve any attention - ANYMORE!

Let the sheriffs office deal with the suspect.

/Turn the page on this tragedyWhat an excellent idea! i'm glad some people are trying to do the right thing and end the outrageous behavior by some demonstrators, etc. and by this Clan.
Dealing with them like they are spoiled children sounds very effective to me, remove the attention and you remoev the reward for the behaviors.
I vote for leaving the Anthony's alone to sit and face their own guilt and the horror of what has happened. They will either lose their minds trying to talk themselves into believing their actions are normal, or realize they must step up for Caylee.
How anyone can live with turning their back on this baby is beyond me.
I wonder? Did she cry out for her "CiCi" or her "GiGi" to save her?
I also wonder why that doesn't haunt them both so badly that they cannot even see the things going on in their own yards.
Take away their distractions and leave them with their memories of Caylee and the knowledge that they are letting her down in the name Of Protecing Casey and pursuing the Almighty Dollar.
JMO.

[Ionmhainn]

[QUOTE=C_E;12155802]
So, mr. or mse. (whichever) Rogers, tell us all just how long will human cells stay alive when exposed to the elements?
:rolleyes:


I'm not sure how these posts are getting messed up, but just want to make it clear that the quote you replied to is from CE...not me, Ionmhainn!

[OneUp]

Maybe DaddysGirl or Scoobie? They seem to get blamed for a lot. :biggrin:

J/K!!!!!!!!!
Seriously SS, I don't think they have that kind of power or authority. Anyway, blamed insinuates that someone is being accused of conduct which they did NOT engage in...

I'm surprised to see something like that on Craigslist...I guess the things I see linked there ffrom this forum are far from being the norm though.

[mosey2]

Bluwaters found the link for us earlier today. It was posted of Craig's List in Orlando. Seems Craig's List took it down for some reason. Maybe they are not permitted to let their members post anything that could result in injury or death.
Craiglist is a community run network. In order for something to be banned for removal about 12-15 people have to flag it for removal. The exact number is forever debated.

[Joan Weiss]

Wonder if an attorney could resign from a case, then tell LE?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomNo, an attorney can only tell if his client waives his privilege.

[impartial]

No disrepect intended
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/foster062698.htm


Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, joined by Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, dissented. The attorney-client privilege, O'Connor said, could be overridden after the client's death in criminal cases where there was a "compelling law enforcement need for information" or where defendants need the information to exonerate themselves.


The compelling law enforcement need for information would not apply here ... similar to the situation to Melinda Duckett ... if Casey were to die, there would be no further investigation of her as a suspect.
There would be no case to file, as the defendant is dead, and the DA's office does not prosecute dead people.

IMO

[dixielover]

I have read here by a few posters that the Anthony's have a PI doing a private search. I am so sure that the PI would be more effective than the FBI. Who is this PI and how are they getting paid- by selling the T-shirts and bracelets. jmo

[crymeariver2006]

Would you blame them if they did?


It wouldn't matter either way to me.

Did they complain about the post and have it removed or do you know?

[Regina.Lampert]

Maybe DaddysGirl or Scoobie? They seem to get blamed for a lot. :biggrin:

J/K!!!!!!!!!

Geez, didja ever notice around this time of day it seems
like everybody tries to outdo each other with one liners?





:cool:

[st777jo]

[QUOTE=OneUp;12155852]What an excellent idea! i'm glad some people are trying to do the right thing and end the outrageous behavior by some demonstrators, etc. and by this Clan.
Dealing with them like they are spoiled children sounds very effective to me, remove the attention and you remoev the reward for the behaviors.
I vote for leaving the Anthony's alone to sit and face their own guilt and the horror of what has happened. They will either lose their minds trying to talk themselves into believing their actions are normal, or realize they must step up for Caylee.
How anyone can live with turning their back on this baby is beyond me.
I wonder? Did she cry out for her "CiCi" or her "GiGi" to save her?
I also wonder why that doesn't haunt them both so badly that they cannot even see the things going on in their own yards.
Take away their distractions and leave them with their memories of Caylee and the knowledge that they are letting her down in the name Of Protecing Casey and pursuing the Almighty Dollar.
JMO.[/QUOTE

I agree....................

[LouBLou]

Hi everyone, relatively new to posting so please don't give me a hard time!
I can't help thinking about the Madeleine MCCann case here in England, evidence was supposedly found in the hire car (albeit dna evidence and not decomposition) but nothing came of that. I'm not trying to compare the two cases, just thinking that sometimes what seems like concrete evidence sometimes doesn't pan out that way. I believe that something terrible has happened to Caylee, and we may never find out what that is, I just hope I'm proved wrong.

[day2day]

I think they're working on the accomplice. imo

accomplice(s)

jmo

[ellvarn]

I'm sorry to have to ask for the link to the memorial event tonight - someone please? I have the live webcam #1 up but I am not sure that's where I need to be. So could someone post where I need to be?

BTW - I stay lost hammer
TIA

[Regina.Lampert]

Very truthful post, so nice to read someone who can separate fact from ramped up fiction.


Actually, no one knows the facts of this case yet, including you. We all have opinions tho and they should be respected.

[crymeariver2006]

The compelling law enforcement need for information would not apply here ... similar to the situation to Melinda Duckett ... if Casey were to die, there would be no further investigation of her as a suspect.
There would be no case to file, as the defendant is dead, and the DA's office does not prosecute dead people.

IMO

But they would still have a missing child that needed to be found. Is she just forgotten about then too? Like it never happened?

[jammies]

Geez, didja ever notice around this time of day it seems
like everybody tries to outdo each other with one liners?





:cool:


Well, it IS around cocktail hour when some posters begin to get ramped up. just sayin.....

[mosey2]

The compelling law enforcement need for information would not apply here ... similar to the situation to Melinda Duckett ... if Casey were to die, there would be no further investigation of her as a suspect.
There would be no case to file, as the defendant is dead, and the DA's office does not prosecute dead people.

IMO
You are most likely right. If Casey were a high-profile political head or national security was involved, it would be a different story.

[mosey2]

Has there been a detailed professional report posted on the web about the cadaver dog hits at the Anthony house?:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

Here ya go http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Well, it 7 o'clock. Doesn't look like much of a turnout. IMO, the protesters usually show up after dark.

[crymeariver2006]

Well, it IS around cocktail hour when some posters begin to get ramped up. just sayin.....

I'm usually at my ramped up best around 4:00 p.m.!

But then someone had to come along and say we wuz whipped into a frenzy.....musta been one heckuva cocktail!

:D

[impartial]

But they would still have a missing child that needed to be found. Is she just forgotten about then too? Like it never happened?



For the need for law enforcement information exception to apply, the State would have to make a compelling showing that Caylee is alive, and the Casey is the only one that had the information as to her location.

The privilege will not be set aside for the purposes of finding a dead body.

IMO

[Amy]

NOT TRUE, Casey had no money and no means of support and the grandparents (a la Cindy's myspace lament) knew it. Do you think that they thought it ok that Caylee went days with out food, a place to sleep????just because Casey was over 18?????????????

Young ladies even with babies and no jobs can and do impose upon their friends for a roof, and possibly a handout. And, once Casey left w/no money, it is quite reasonable to expect she could have actually gotten a job @ a fast food place, convenient store, etc. Or, baby sit or do house work where she found shelter. And, it appears that even Cindy and George know that Casey knows how to steal money if she needs it---kind of like stealing money from her new BFF Amy?

I don't think that Caylee, while she was alive after leaving the A's went for days without food. Heck, one who knows how to steal money surely is an accomplished shop-lifter, too.

IMO

[day2day]

Has there been a detailed professional report posted on the web about the cadaver dog hits at the Anthony house?:shrug:

Great question Mosey ..if so I haven't read it. I will search for one.
I was JUST looking at the Anthony's back yard..gives me the chills!
jmo

[TN Serenity]

Well, it 7 o'clock. Doesn't look like much of a turnout. IMO, the protesters usually show up after dark.

Isn't Orlando on Central Time?

[rosejustrose]

Isn't that what Casey called them, punks????

She sure did and I'm sure that's why they were characterized that way by the OP. JMO.:rolleyes:

[crymeariver2006]

Has there been a detailed professional report posted on the web about the cadaver dog hits at the Anthony house?:shrug:

I would imagine those reports are being held by LE. We won't see or hear anything specific about them until and unless there is a trial.

[luvinlife]

For the need for law enforcement information exception to apply, the State would have to make a compelling showing that Caylee is alive, and the Casey is the only one that had the information as to her location.

The privilege will not be set aside for the purposes of finding a dead body.

IMO



I know that is the law but it is sad isn't it, if the lawyer has been told anything. :(

[rosejustrose]

Do you really think it mattered what they thought? If they approved? Do you think their disapproval would stop Casey from doing what she wanted, when she wanted?

Obviously not, I'm sure they had to have told her at least once - Casey, don't kill Caylee. JMO.

[FrankieBones1]

Isn't Orlando on Central Time?Maybe that's what the protesters thought, too.

I saw one person in a red hat. Also see a black truck in the driveway.
I'm almost sure that Orlando is on Eastern time.

[luvinlife]

Great question Mosey ..if so I haven't read it. I will search for one.
I was JUST looking at the Anthony's back yard..gives me the chills!
jmo



I was looking too, and all I have seen so far was info from Det. Melich at the bond hearing and a tiny blurb from the one guy in the doc dump. I guess if is for the murder charge we won't get to know the details until after she is charged for murder.moo

[jammies]

I'm usually at my ramped up best around 4:00 p.m.!

But then someone had to come along and say we wuz whipped into a frenzy.....musta been one heckuva cocktail!

:D


Mad Dog 20/20 :)



btw, someone at the front of the house......

[crymeariver2006]

Young ladies even with babies and no jobs can and do impose upon their friends for a roof, and possibly a handout. And, once Casey left w/no money, it is quite reasonable to expect she could have actually gotten a job @ a fast food place, convenient store, etc. Or, baby sit or do house work where she found shelter. And, it appears that even Cindy and George know that Casey knows how to steal money if she needs it---kind of like stealing money from her new BFF Amy?

I don't think that Caylee, while she was alive after leaving the A's went for days without food. Heck, one who knows how to steal money surely is an accomplished shop-lifter, too.

IMO

I don't think Caylee was alive for very long after leaving the Anthony house with Casey. That's JMO.

Sure it would be reasonable to expect Casey to get a job at a fast food place or elsewhere, but she didn't.

[mosey2]

I would imagine those reports are being held by LE. We won't see or hear anything specific about them until and unless there is a trial.
Do you think if I ask really nicely and send them last years fruitcake, they will send me a copy? I'll share! (the copies, not the fruitcake, cause I actuall like you guys)

[SavannahStar]

Isn't Orlando on Central Time?

No. Eastern.

[Rayosunshine]

I still think Caylee is alive and well and living in Puerto Rico.

If, in fact, Casey was a psychopath (I hope that is the word that was used) as Cindy has said, and Cindy recognized the symptoms, actions and behavior and she did not seek help or seek to protect Caylee, might there be some repercussions for Cindy?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[crymeariver2006]

Mad Dog 20/20 :)



btw, someone at the front of the house......

That's the security guys truck.

What happened to the lawn rangers? :( Did they just take their plastic chairs and go home?

[impartial]

I know that is the law but it is sad isn't it, if the lawyer has been told anything. :(


There was a case recently where the attorney's client confessed that he committed a murder that another person had been convicted of and serving a life sentence.

The attorney was advised in a written declaration by his client that upon his client's death, the attorney could disclose the true murderer. The client died some 20 years after the other person had been convicted.

IMO

[day2day]

I was looking too, and all I have seen so far was info from Det. Melich at the bond hearing and a tiny blurb from the one guy in the doc dump. I guess if is for the murder charge we won't get to know the details until after she is charged for murder.moo

I think you are right. They are holding many things close to their chests. That back yard gives me a very bad feeling. jmo

[luvinlife]

Young ladies even with babies and no jobs can and do impose upon their friends for a roof, and possibly a handout. And, once Casey left w/no money, it is quite reasonable to expect she could have actually gotten a job @ a fast food place, convenient store, etc. Or, baby sit or do house work where she found shelter. And, it appears that even Cindy and George know that Casey knows how to steal money if she needs it---kind of like stealing money from her new BFF Amy?

I don't think that Caylee, while she was alive after leaving the A's went for days without food. Heck, one who knows how to steal money surely is an accomplished shop-lifter, too.

IMO



I do think Cindy was looking for Casey, thus the calls to her old friend Ryan and if what Ryan said was true and Casey was hanging with new friends I would think Cindy didn't know much about them due to Casey not telling her a thing. So she was just calling who she knew and LP said that Lee talked to Casey while she was missing, I imagine Cindy called him to try and get Casey to say where she was so that she could go get Caylee.

I don't have a link or proof so JMHO

[FrankieBones1]

And now a protester dressed in yellow and she is sitting on the sidewalk with her sign. She has long black hair tied back in a ponytail. A man in a white tshirt approaches and kneels down to speak to her.

[ellvarn]

Thanks for the link, I had it up and thought it was the wrong one because of so little going on, maybe some of the protesters are going to wait until the memorial is over to act out, or maybe they need a few more beers -:beer:

Ooooops just saying.

[Rayosunshine]

[QUOTE=C_E;12155913] thanks for the information. The key then is: did the cells die while the contributor themselves was alive? Or were they excreted after death?
Surely the cell don't continue to live after they have left the host body?

It takes the brain about 6 minutes to die without oxygen, I would think it could be a little less time for epithelial cells, due to shock of profound vasoconstriction (all blood is shunted to vital organs) and acidosis - is why a person in shock has no color. The body's own built in survival mechanism kicks in.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[rosejustrose]

Your imagination is reaaaaaaally working overtime! - because you're the only one that's ever said that Caylee went without food for days or a place to sleep.

I agree. She was probably dead the day Casey took off with her so the matter of whether she had food or a place to sleep (other than the trunk of her murdering mother's car) is a moot point. JMO.

[True2Blues]

Well, let me spell it out for you,

a daughter who they knew had no means of supporting herself or her daughter, is out of their sight for 31 days, and when they try to talk to the granddaughter there is always an excuse that they can't.

They have already established the daughter to be a liar and a theif.

Still, days go by, no phone conversation with Caylee to reassure them everything is ok, and that by some miracle she is being fed.........................

If Casey were a "normal" person, perhaps the argument would be different, but they knew who they were dealing with. THEY LET CAYLEE DOWN.

I've thought about that myself. Casey had no place set up to live and wasn't working. More than likely she would have gone to leech off of a friend, but what if there was no one willing to keep the two of them for more than a day or two?

Casey doesn't seem to have had trouble finding a bed, or a partner, but would Caylee be welcome and if she was, what kind of things would she witness?

I would have thought that the Anthonys would have started looking for Caylee a whole lot sooner than 30 days. Especially when they weren't allowed to speak to her. That should have set off a loud alarm.

[FrankieBones1]

That's the security guys truck.

What happened to the lawn rangers? :( Did they just take their plastic chairs and go home?

The lone lawnranger is sitting dead centre to the camera. Could be she was online earlier to get the best webcam op.

[GrandmaGA]

Thanks for the link, I had it up and thought it was the wrong one because of so little going on, maybe some of the protesters are going to wait until the memorial is over to act out, or maybe they need a few more beers -:beer:

Ooooops just saying.


The protesters ARE the memorial.

[Acorn]

I don't know. But I think on Craigslist, all it takes is a couple of people to flag it for removal, and its automatically removed.

Yup. It takes 2 times from 2 different IP's.

[st777jo]

Do we always call a memorial a protest????

I don't think that is what the people on craiglist meant.

I think they want a MEMORIAL jmo

[Ckrdpast]

:seeya: all i thought this 'last" protest was to begin at 8----did i get that wrong?

[True2Blues]

I agree. She was probably dead the day Casey took off with her so the matter of whether she had food or a place to sleep (other than the trunk of her murdering mother's car) is a moot point. JMO.

That's more than likely. Casey doesn't strike me as the type to endure anything that interfered with her partying any longer than she had to.

[baywench]

Has there been a detailed professional report posted on the web about the cadaver dog hits at the Anthony house?:shrug:


Since you are new maybe you don't know that there is links thread on this forum. There is much information over there and good place to get caught up on the case. It helps to go there first so you can do your own research.

[rosejustrose]

Isn't Orlando on Central Time?

I'm not sure. I thought FL was EST.

[GrandmaGA]

If I were Caylee's gp's and had to streeeetttccchhh as far as you just did to try to rationalize leaving lying, thieving Casey to her own devices with her innocent toddler in tow, I'd never, ever let it happen. Not for even a few days, much less an entire month.Casey was her mother and had custody, NOT the GP's.

[mosey2]

IF the Anthonys contacted Craigslist and complained, it would have been removed.

Question is, did they?

:shrug:
From what I understand, it is really really hard to get craigslist headquarters to delete a post that has not been flagged for removal. It would take a court order. Craig Newmark had that in mind while it was under development. There are, however, websites, ghostsites set up where the members, upon hearing your pleas for removal, will enlist their members to flag the post for removal likety-split.
Thats the beauty of community-run sites, though. They are self-governing and the unfair, unfounded and down-right wrong posting dissapear very quickly

[luvinlife]

There was a case recently where the attorney's client confessed that he committed a murder that another person had been convicted of and serving a life sentence.

The attorney was advised in a written declaration by his client that upon his client's death, the attorney could disclose the true murderer. The client died some 20 years after the other person had been convicted.

IMO


I am glad that someone had closure but how sad it had to come with such a price. I hope the person got out of jail..

[Ckrdpast]

I'm not sure. I thought FL was EST.


orlando is EST only the panhandle of FL is on central time

[ellvarn]

The protesters ARE the memorial.

I have been wondering why the Anthony's are always outside "in front" instead of out back. But after hearing that sometimes rocks were being thrown at their windows - I would be mad enough to go out too. I really would not want to live on that street. Those poor neighbors.

[desmom]

No there has not.

The only Cadaver Dog detail we've really had is the one from the supposed psychic :rolleyes:, whose Cadaver Dog hit on a dead animal.

Page 310 of the 400 + pages of documents:

"...I responded to 2500 W. Colonial Drive, Orange County Sheriff's Office Forensic storage bay reference to a cadaver search with my K-9 partner, "Gerus".

I gave K-9 "Gerus" his cadaver search command. I started my search of the two door vehicle from the drivers side front fender, working in a counter clock wise direction. K-9 "Gerus" gave a final trained alert at the rear passenger fender/trunk.

K-9 "Gerus" is trained to detect and alert on the odor of human decomposition. Cpl Y. Melich was notified."

[mosey2]

Since you are new maybe you don't know that there is links thread on this forum. There is much information over there and good place to get caught up on the case. It helps to go there first so you can do your own research.
I'm not new. I had 2,500 posts as Mosey, but changed my email address between Peterson, Groene, and now the Anthony case.

The only thing I can find on the web on the subject is personal opinions on the dogs, and I wanted something a little more professional. I guess it doesnt exist

[Ckrdpast]

I think they want trouble.

i dont think its trouble they want---i think its closure
\
jmo

[luvinlife]

Page 310 of the 400 + pages of documents:

"...I responded to 2500 W. Colonial Drive, Orange County Sheriff's Office Forensic storage bay reference to a cadaver search with my K-9 partner, "Gerus".

I gave K-9 "Gerus" his cadaver search command. I started my search of the two door vehicle from the drivers side front fender, working in a counter clock wise direction. K-9 "Gerus" gave a final trained alert at the rear passenger fender/trunk.

K-9 "Gerus" is trained to detect and alert on the odor of human decomposition. Cpl Y. Melich was notified."



I wonder why doesn't he mention the back yard????

If his stmt on the car was allowed to be sent out why not the yard.

[FrankieBones1]

:seeya: all i thought this 'last" protest was to begin at 8----did i get that wrong?
Craigslist had it slated for 7pm Eastern. Maybe they put the word out later and changed it to 8.

[day2day]

:seeya: all i thought this 'last" protest was to begin at 8----did i get that wrong?

Heya Ckrd...
Have you been to see Yuri?! :confused: I heard that he broke his leg in three places but he will be back soon-i just know he will!

I thought it was 7..i could be wrong!:seeya:

[crymeariver2006]

From what I understand, it is really really hard to get craigslist headquarters to delete a post that has not been flagged for removal. It would take a court order. Craig Newmark had that in mind while it was under development. There are, however, websites, ghostsites set up where the members, upon hearing your pleas for removal, will enlist their members to flag the post for removal likety-split.
Thats the beauty of community-run sites, though. They are self-governing and the unfair, unfounded and down-right wrong posting dissapear very quickly


What's "unfair, unfounded, and downright wrong" about posting a memorial and having that flagged, yet the posts claiming Casey is a hooker remain on?

Who can be offended by a memorial?

:shrug:

[mosey2]

I don't know. But I think on Craigslist, all it takes is a couple of people to flag it for removal, and its automatically removed.
The number of flags it takes for removal varies depending on the catagory and the city it is posted (pop. density

[dixielover]

[QUOTE=OneUp;12155852]What an excellent idea! i'm glad some people are trying to do the right thing and end the outrageous behavior by some demonstrators, etc. and by this Clan.
Dealing with them like they are spoiled children sounds very effective to me, remove the attention and you remoev the reward for the behaviors.
I vote for leaving the Anthony's alone to sit and face their own guilt and the horror of what has happened. They will either lose their minds trying to talk themselves into believing their actions are normal, or realize they must step up for Caylee.
How anyone can live with turning their back on this baby is beyond me.
I wonder? Did she cry out for her "CiCi" or her "GiGi" to save her?
I also wonder why that doesn't haunt them both so badly that they cannot even see the things going on in their own yards.
Take away their distractions and leave them with their memories of Caylee and the knowledge that they are letting her down in the name Of Protecing Casey and pursuing the Almighty Dollar.
JMO.[/QUOTE

I agree....................

I agree

Give them a few months and they will be pill rolling, drooling, and picking at imaginary things-all hopped up on anti-psychotics

jmo

[Tessie]

The Anthonys aren't clairvoyant, so no, they didn't let Caylee down at all.

Most people have the sense to know that hindsight is always 20/20, and it's only good for hindsight, nothing more - you may want to ponder that awhile.


Actually I believe they did let Caylee down. Casey lived with them, they knew her track record. Cindy actually threatened Casey for custody. You can spin it for the GP's but even your spin leaves a lot of unanswered questions of where is Caylee? It's been darned long enough for this baby to be missing.

[Joan Weiss]

Here ya go http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.htmlThere is a guy sitting down low to the right side of the front door. Must be a guard. I saw him sit down. There was a female sitting on the sidewalk, she's MIA right now.

[day2day]

Originally Posted by SqueakyClean
I think they want trouble.

Maybe just maybe-they want the Anthony's to get off THEIR azzes and take the MONEY that they have been collecting for a SEARCH for CAYLEE and actually SEARCH?!

jmo

[luvinlife]

Because what appears in the document isn't the full K-9 report.



I know but my question is why not all of it, if they released some why not release all. The only reason I can come up with that this is the evidence that allowed them to take the car.

Det Melich already said they hit in the back yard, so why not release it with the rest.

I am just curious.

[day2day]

Because what appears in the document isn't the full K-9 report.

They don't "owe" us anything.

[mosey2]

What's "unfair, unfounded, and downright wrong" about posting a memorial and having that flagged, yet the posts claiming Casey is a hooker remain on?

Who can be offended by a memorial?

:shrug:
Beats the livin' heck out of me. I wouldnt have flagged it, but I think it might have something to do with a potentially volatile situation, given the past behaviour of protesters

[FrankieBones1]

Fox News is there and a police cruiser just went by. Now a woman and a young male walk by. The original Memorial goer is not to be seen now.

Jo: I called it a protest because that is how it was advertised. A final protest.

[day2day]

The Anthonys.

A memorial means Caylee isn't alive -cash flow stops. Income dwindles for the A's...

jmo

[dixielover]

[QUOTE=dixielover;12156028]


And you'll be planted right in front of the web cam, watching it go down.

Sorry-don't do web cams

[GinoA797]

You have sad thoughts about what you're imagining, because the public hasn't been told the truth yet.

I don't really know what you guys are being snippy to each other about, but the truth is that this child has been missing for 96 days and no good can come from that. Bottom line for me. I hope she is alive, but the truth is her mother didn't report her missing for 31 days, no good can come from that either. JMO Have a good weekend everyone...

[FrankieBones1]

Maybe just maybe-they want the Anthony's to get off THEIR azzes and take the MONEY that they have been collecting for a SEARCH for CAYLEE and actually SEARCH?!

jmo
Yes, I think that is a big part of it. And by making it big tonight, they'll bring more awareness to the public since I imagine more reporters will be there to cover it.

[Ckrdpast]

Heya Ckrd...
Have you been to see Yuri?! :confused: I heard that he broke his leg in three places but he will be back soon-i just know he will!

I thought it was 7..i could be wrong!:seeya:

lol i got the wrong memo i guess, i thought it was 8---im first in line to sign the cast--i think:)

got my nurses uniform on--dontcha just love a lead detective on a motorcycle

[rosejustrose]

You have sad thoughts about what you're imagining, because the public hasn't been told the truth yet.


And neither have you been told the truth. Only Casey knows the truth and she's not likely to tell LE, the public or YOU. JMO.

[TxLady2]

I’d love to know who this Paragon is who put up $500,000 :flamemad:


Hotwater

The first time it was a surety co. in Texas, via Tony P., the bondsman. LP, the BH, lost his $50,000 which was the initial 10%. The second time, from what I heard, was two different bondsman who split it. This last time would have only been about $120, so maybe the Anthonys could come up with that much.
IMO, TP and LP should never have got her out the first time, but I believe they were hoodwinked by Baez, who implied that they could get her to give up information. Then once she was out, he slammed the door on that real quick, and said they could not ask her anything.

[Joan Weiss]

To have an accoplice, you have to have a crime first. No crime, no accomplice.I'm fairly certain of the crime. imo

[rosejustrose]

I have been wondering why the Anthony's are always outside "in front" instead of out back. But after hearing that sometimes rocks were being thrown at their windows - I would be mad enough to go out too. I really would not want to live on that street. Those poor neighbors.

No, IMO, it's poor Caylee:rose:

[crymeariver2006]

Beats the livin' heck out of me. I wouldnt have flagged it, but I think it might have something to do with a potentially volatile situation, given the past behaviour of protesters

Well, last night it was the neighbors that started shouting obscenities at the protesters - who were across the street.

IMO, it sounds like the neighbors want the situation to be continuously "ramped up" so they can get their injunction.

JMO and all that jazz.

[OneUp]

Just musing...
Some here are crying out wondering why charge have yet to be brought in Caylees death...If they were I strongly suspect those same folks would begin crying against a "rush to judgement". Certainly, there is no need to rush them along for Caylee. She is past caring about earthly matters.
I hear daily how "we" are just pushing for information that we have no right to, that we should be patient and all will someday be revealed...that is true, and I do find it hard to be patient...but why then do the same people complain daily about why charges are taking so long? have they no patience for LE?
Three months seems an eternity to me in a matter concerning a missing child...but it is a very short time in the scope of any murder investigation, especially on a trail grown cold.
Methinks that when the charges come down the pike, that those who come here just to judge other posters and sit contemptuously on a high horse will just move on to the next case and find the contray position to take up as their cause celebre. I really don't believe everyone has the capacity to care for others...maybe that is why the care which posters here have for this child is beyond the comprehension of some. Casey is surely lacking in that capacity herself.

I promise you, if Caylee is found alive I will be here in full force eating crow and thanking God. Mark my name down, I'll be here and I'll be grateful to be proven wrong.
I promise that I will be here every day until I see Caylee's remains treated with the care that Caylee should have revceived in life.
I cannot refute logic and evidence just to stay "compassionate" or nuetral...This is about what is true, not what is comfortable for me to accept. Sadly, I face daily the fact that our children are not safe, not even from their own parents. That makes me mighty uncomfortable, but it is truth and I must face it.
If Casey did not act alone, will you still be here crying for justice for Caylee against all who wronged her? I will...I know many "friends" I have here will too. Someone harmed Caylee, either her own mother, or her mother and others...that is what the evidence proves to me and what it will prove in a court of law.
Just some jumbled thougths...
and JMO.

[mosey2]

No there has not.

The only Cadaver Dog detail we've really had is the one from the supposed psychic :rolleyes:, whose Cadaver Dog hit on a dead animal.
Yeah the psychics:rolleyes:
At least they didnt enlist the help of that woman with her own cadaver dog, who was arrested for planting bones she bought off eBay at the crimescenes

[Joan Weiss]

lol i got the wrong memo i guess, i thought it was 8---im first in line to sign the cast--i think:)

got my nurses uniform on--dontcha just love a lead detective on a motorcycleHee!....:seeya:.....

[rosejustrose]

After witnessing the actions of the mob, I bet they are all anxious to experience urban renewal when some of these very same people are provided housing in that neighborhood by the likes of obamma.


I believe there is a political thread, this is not it. JMO.

[desmom]

After witnessing the actions of the mob, I bet they are all anxious to experience urban renewal when some of these very same people are provided housing in that neighborhood by the likes of obamma.


:eek:


jmo

[Ckrdpast]

Does anyone remember Bratlings say she was going to go to the Anthony's house on Sept. 19? Has anyone heard from her?


perhaps you should PM her?

[day2day]

Yes, I think that is a big part of it. And by making it big tonight, they'll bring more awareness to the public since I imagine more reporters will be there to cover it.

I just pray that they don't bring their littleones, hammer, or bats. :rose:

[FrankieBones1]

Beats the livin' heck out of me. I wouldnt have flagged it, but I think it might have something to do with a potentially volatile situation, given the past behaviour of protestersYup, that's exactly what I posted after finding out Craigslist removed it. They don't want to be part of an event that may or may not cause injury or death. I can imagine some nut showing up with a gun. There's crazies everywhere.

Well, we have about six protesters/memorial goers. About half a children. Haven't people learned anything over the past few weeks?

[cassidy]

You have sad thoughts about what you're imagining, because the public hasn't been told the truth yet.

How do you know that? What is the truth? Do you know something the "public" doesn't know?

[Ckrdpast]

Hee!....:seeya:.....


hi ya joanie:seeya: missed ya!!

[GinoA797]

It just seems to me that everyone protects Casey whoever protected Caylee????