Caylee Anthony, saturday morning-9/20/2008 thread

[chrissybot]

:seeya: Good morning everyone!! please continue...

[chrissybot]

has anything interesting happened overnight??

[SandyO]

has anything interesting happened overnight??

Hello Chrissy ~~ I've been waiting for someone to start a morning thread, thanks! All's been peaceful overnight from what I can tell, but there continue to be a lot of questions about where the money the Anthonys have collected has gone ---- especially regarding Lee and the Sun Bank Trust thing.

[chrissybot]

Hello Chrissy ~~ I've been waiting for someone to start a morning thread, thanks! All's been peaceful overnight from what I can tell, but there continue to be a lot of questions about where the money the Anthonys have collected has gone ---- especially regarding Lee and the Sun Bank Trust thing.
Thats. just awful isn't it?? I have never seen a missing child's case like this one have you Sandy?

[trich]

Good morning.
Can anyone explain about this "fight club thing"

Is this another story that is being told by Casey or about Casey?

Also is there any more info about the trust fund and what happened to it ....is the money gone out of the account as in closed and no money there.

[SandyO]

Thats. just awful isn't it?? I have never seen a missing child's case like this one have you Sandy?

Never. I suppose that's why I'm so glued to it. ALL the people involved and the things that happen are totally unbelievable to me, stranger than fiction. I am convinced now that Caylee is gone forever, but I have no clue as to gone WHERE. I find it impossible that Casey has managed to outsmart the entire Orlando Law Enforcement establishment, and I sure do wish some hard evidence would present itself!

[Pebbles]

Originally Posted by SandyO
Hello Chrissy ~~ I've been waiting for someone to start a morning thread, thanks! All's been peaceful overnight from what I can tell, but there continue to be a lot of questions about where the money the Anthonys have collected has gone ---- especially regarding Lee and the Sun Bank Trust thing.


I wonder about where the Anthonys are getting the money just to take care of normal everyday expenses, never mind the attorneys, bodyguards, security cameras, etc. My husband and I could not afford these things, not that we need them, but if we ever did it would not be possible.

Cindy isn't working, they said George was working, but he always seems to be around the house, so I can't understand what he is doing. Even if George was working, how is it possible just to live on what he is earning?

How do the Attorneys pay their mortgage, electricity, internet connection, gas for Casey's trips to JB, etc. Where is the money coming from? Does this mean that "Crime Does Pay"? I guess my husband and I went into the wrong line of work.

[AMS]

Good morning everyone. Thanks for the morning thread. I hope everyone has a nice Saturday.

[chrissybot]

Good morning.
Can anyone explain about this "fight club thing"

Is this another story that is being told by Casey or about Casey?

Also is there any more info about the trust fund and what happened to it ....is the money gone out of the account as in closed and no money there.
Whoa fight club?? I didn't here about this?? Hope someone can shed some light for us on this one. From what the rumors are, I believe the trust account may be closed? Don't know for sure. I got off about 11 pm eastern time last night, so, not sure what else may have developed. Morning sandy & trich:seeya:

[chrissybot]

Good morning everyone. Thanks for the morning thread. I hope everyone has a nice Saturday.

you too AMS!! I am stuck in with 2 little sicky boys, so I will be on & off boards most of the day. The weekends are usually slower here unless something interesting happens. Wish they would finn Caylee soon:rose:

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning all. Happy Saturday!!!

I'm not sure how a "Fight Club' ties into anything. But I did see the movie. IF Casey was involved in something like this, she must have been an announcer or arm charm otherwise someone would have seen her all bruised and battered at some point. IMO

[SandyO]

Whoa fight club?? I didn't here about this?? Hope someone can shed some light for us on this one. From what the rumors are, I believe the trust account may be closed? Don't know for sure. I got off about 11 pm eastern time last night, so, not sure what else may have developed. Morning sandy & trich:seeya:

Good Morning, all! It's still dark in Phoenix, but I'm sure it will be another bright, hot, sunny day. Regarding the trust fund: Did the bank close it and are they holding the money, or did someone withdraw whatever funds were there? Anyone have any idea how much money was there? Regarding the 'fight club': It seems to be more of a red herring from what I am able to tell.

It really is curious how the Anthonys are living with no apparent income. There's got to be $ coming from somewhere. I understand the Anthonys filed for bankruptcy earlier this year, so they can't do that again for a length of time. I hear George has been pan handling "for Caylee" on street corners, but that's not gonna do it.

[chrissybot]

you too AMS!! I am stuck in with 2 little sicky boys, so I will be on & off boards most of the day. The weekends are usually slower here unless something interesting happens. Wish they would finn Caylee soon:rose:

Thats find Caylee. Tried to edit, but got some weirdness & couldn't edit my own post. strange.

[GrandmaGA]

has anything interesting happened overnight??

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

[nutterbutter]

Never. I suppose that's why I'm so glued to it. ALL the people involved and the things that happen are totally unbelievable to me, stranger than fiction. I am convinced now that Caylee is gone forever, but I have no clue as to gone WHERE. I find it impossible that Casey has managed to outsmart the entire Orlando Law Enforcement establishment, and I sure do wish some hard evidence would present itself!
I dont think she "out smarted" anyone.It does not take smarts to kill or give away your baby and have a 31 day lead and millions of places to hide/put them.It actually just takes a killer but not necesarily a "smart" person.This female is the lowest I have ever seen and her entire family unit (if they can even be called that) are a bunch of um um .
This is nothing against your post just pointing out Casey is not smart for killing her daughter just a physco.moo
she has no feeling for anyone but herself.

[spageddy]

Good Saturday Morning everyone!
I just can't believe the twists & turns in this case. I'm on line off&On most of the day. I watch NG at night, and when I log on in the morning I have no idea what anyone's talking about:confused:
Sun Bank? Trust funds? fight clubs? and what ABOUT lee? I just cannot seem to keep up.
well chrissy, I wish you the best with your little sickies. And I'll try once again to catch up.

[SandyO]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

I hadn't seen this until now. Those demonstrators are disgusting, just spoiling for a confrontation, helping nothing.

[chrissybot]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US
TY Grandma:seeya:. Protesters still bringing their children out... hohum....

[SandyO]

I dont think she "out smarted" anyone.It does not take smarts to kill or give away your baby and have a 31 day lead and millions of places to hide/put them.It actually just takes a killer but not necesarily a "smart" person.This female is the lowest I have ever seen and her entire family unit (if they can even be called that) are a bunch of um um .
This is nothing against your post just pointing out Casey is not smart for killing er daughter just a physco.moo

Thanks, I needed that.........

[crymeariver2006]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

I'm sorry, but IMO the neighbors who got the water bottles from George are the ones that started that one.

Not the protesters.

[nutterbutter]

G'morning all. Happy Saturday!!!

I'm not sure how a "Fight Club' ties into anything. But I did see the movie. IF Casey was involved in something like this, she must have been an announcer or arm charm otherwise someone would have seen her all bruised and battered at some point. IMO

good morning all and thanks for new thread Chrissy.:seeya:

[trich]

Well I noticed every other word was bleeped out.
What is wrong with people that they have no other way to express themselves but with foul language.
I mean ev en Casey on the tapes from jail had to be bleeped.
I would have had my mouth washed out with soap when I was young and at home if I talked like that.
I never accepted it from my kids either.
I am an old lady now and I still would not use that kind of language.
It disgusts me and it certainly shows lack of any kind of class or dignity.
Sorry for the rant but I really really can't stand potty mouths ...it really shows lack of respect for anything or anybody. IMO:flamemad:

[nutterbutter]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

I'm sorry, but IMO the neighbors who got the water bottles from George are the ones that started that one.

Not the protesters.
I agree...........seems they did.moo

[day2day]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

I'm sorry, but IMO the neighbors who got the water bottles from George are the ones that started that one.

Not the protesters.

I agree! And now the news has George on tape distributing some of the donated water. :lol:
Hey George..a little to late there buddy!!

jmo

[marshmallow]

I agree! And now the news has George on tape distributing some of the donated water. :lol:
Hey George..a little to late there buddy!!

jmo

who's he giving it to, the searchers?
(I know the answer to that, trying to be funny w/ 1 cup coffee in me)

who did he give it to?

[nutterbutter]

who's he giving it to, the searchers?
(I know the answer to that, trying to be funny w/ 1 cup coffee in me)

who did he give it to?

neighbors and I think those anel folks.moo
busted.lol :biggrin:

[msgatorslayer]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

I'm sorry, but IMO the neighbors who got the water bottles from George are the ones that started that one.

Not the protesters.

ITA - The video doesn't show 'how' George got to the store for water. Maybe a neighbor drove him? George was calm though. Going back into his house and people were screaming at him. That neighbor guy in the orange shirt couldn't keep his mouth shut though.

And I only seen one adult in the protester group. The rest look to be teens and kids. Guess this is the kewl thing to do on a Friday night.

[spageddy]

What do those people hope to accomplish? ANY of them? The protesters have just found a new hot spot to hangout & look for trouble. And what's with GA & the water bottles? Why is he encouraging ANYBODY to be out there- friend, or foe.
What ever happened to The A's attorney/PR person?

[crymeariver2006]

who's he giving it to, the searchers?
(I know the answer to that, trying to be funny w/ 1 cup coffee in me)

who did he give it to?

Not the searchers (are you kidding me?), he's giving bottled water to the neighbors who were "standing guard" on the sidewalk in front of his house. All the while these same neighbors are shouting obscenities at the protesters who were across the street.

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning all. Happy Saturday!!!

I'm not sure how a "Fight Club' ties into anything. But I did see the movie. IF Casey was involved in something like this, she must have been an announcer or arm charm otherwise someone would have seen her all bruised and battered at some point. IMO

Quoting my own post. I've had one full cup of java and I'm alert now, lol.

I got it!!! Casey was the 'event planner' for the "Fight Club":lol:

[Armchairdet]

Good Saturday Morning everyone!
I just can't believe the twists & turns in this case. I'm on line off&On most of the day. I watch NG at night, and when I log on in the morning I have no idea what anyone's talking about:confused:
Sun Bank? Trust funds? fight clubs? and what ABOUT lee? I just cannot seem to keep up.
well chrissy, I wish you the best with your little sickies. And I'll try once again to catch up.

Good morning Spageddy. I am in the same boat as you. I know nothing about that stuff yet having just signed on. I do know that locally here you could donate to Sun Trust Bank.

[trich]

I agree! And now the news has George on tape distributing some of the donated water. :lol:
Hey George..a little to late there buddy!!

jmo


I said days ago that the Anthonys could have taken the high road and gone out to protestors and handed out water or even lemonade.
That would have shown some class....but nooooo they are not capable of showing any kind of respect to anyone else although they expect it to be gi ven to them.

[day2day]

who's he giving it to, the searchers?
(I know the answer to that, trying to be funny w/ 1 cup coffee in me)

who did he give it to?

:eek: lol...well not EXACTLY searchers...lookes more like neighbors or supporters outside his home...

[SandyO]

ITA - The video doesn't show 'how' George got to the store for water. Maybe a neighbor drove him? George was calm though. Going back into his house and people were screaming at him. That neighbor guy in the orange shirt couldn't keep his mouth shut though.

And I only seen one adult in the protester group. The rest look to be teens and kids. Guess this is the kewl thing to do on a Friday night.

That's my problem with all of this. Those demonstrators are there to stir up a little excitement, and I just doubt they care about Caylee at all. I know they have a constitutional right, but I question their motives.

[farrahrani]

I agree! And now the news has George on tape distributing some of the donated water. :lol:
Hey George..a little to late there buddy!!

jmo


I'm wondering at how brave the neighbors suddenly are, now that the Guardian Angels are there to do crowd control.

Not blaming the Angels, they are a wonderful organization. Just saying its amazing how brave someone can be now that they think they are protected from actually following through with what they start.

And I'm not sure what the purpose of the water is. I would guess its to drink at home, but why is the water donated to begin with? They aren't outdoors searching.

[VII]

That's my problem with all of this. Those demonstrators are there to stir up a little excitement, and I just doubt they care about Caylee at all. I know they have a constitutional right, but I question their motives.


Nice to see the neighbors trying to take their neighborhood back.
Who were the Guardian Angels there for.
To protect the protestors or the family :confused:

[desmom]

That's my problem with all of this. Those demonstrators are there to stir up a little excitement, and I just doubt they care about Caylee at all. I know they have a constitutional right, but I question their motives.

Good Morning All!

Sandy I think you summed it up pretty well.

[spageddy]

That's my problem with all of this. Those demonstrators are there to stir up a little excitement, and I just doubt they care about Caylee at all. I know they have a constitutional right, but I question their motives.

Maybe since Casey can't go out to party anymore, they want to bring the party to her:shrug:

[day2day]

I'm wondering at how brave the neighbors suddenly are, now that the Guardian Angels are there to do crowd control.

Not blaming the Angels, they are a wonderful organization. Just saying its amazing how brave someone can be now that they think they are protected from actually following through with what they start.

And I'm not sure what the purpose of the water is. I would guess its to drink at home, but why is the water donated to begin with? They aren't outdoors searching.

It scares me. I have a feeling another tragedy is goin to happen on hopespring drive.
And you are right..they aren't searching..the trust fund has been closed for two days..but George was out yesterday collecting.
Go figure.

jmo

[msgatorslayer]

That's my problem with all of this. Those demonstrators are there to stir up a little excitement, and I just doubt they care about Caylee at all. I know they have a constitutional right, but I question their motives.

I used to have a neighbor that would walk down the street to see what was happening if she saw an ambulance, fire truck, LE, etc. Could be a couple of roads down. But she'd go. She was a gossip queen. She'd talk to officials, see what was up. I can picture her being at the Anthony's home if she lived in Orlando. Along with her 6 yo and mouthy teenaged Son.

[AMS]

you too AMS!! I am stuck in with 2 little sicky boys, so I will be on & off boards most of the day. The weekends are usually slower here unless something interesting happens. Wish they would finn Caylee soon:rose:

I wish a speedy recovery to your boys. :)

[chrissybot]

Good Saturday Morning everyone!
I just can't believe the twists & turns in this case. I'm on line off&On most of the day. I watch NG at night, and when I log on in the morning I have no idea what anyone's talking about:confused:
Sun Bank? Trust funds? fight clubs? and what ABOUT lee? I just cannot seem to keep up.
well chrissy, I wish you the best with your little sickies. And I'll try once again to catch up.
TY spageddy! I think, not sure, but I THINK basically its been speculated, A's, maybe Lee taking moneys from Caylee fund?? Don't quote me on this as I am not sure. Thats just what I am gathering is going on with the moneys. I do agree with others. Bodyguards I believe are expensive & also that high profile lawyer the A's got. The surveillance cameras, depending on what brand, etc, they are not much. My yard is completely surrounded with surveillance cameras, because of one of our own nasty neighbors, but we got them at radio shack for a few $100 each cam. I also wonder where the A's are getting the bucks for all this since it seems noone is working??:confused:

[Armchairdet]

Before we know it the protestors/contestors/Anthony defenders will be lining up for tickets. Someone will be asking 'which side? The Anthony side is serving water and donuts and the protestor side will be serving lemonade and cinnamon buns'. 'Oh, I need three tickets for the protestor side, one adult two children please':rolleyes:

[nutterbutter]

Quoting my own post. I've had one full cup of java and I'm alert now, lol.

I got it!!! Casey was the 'event planner' for the "Fight Club":lol:

:beer::biggrin:

[AMS]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

Well it appears having the neighbors outside certainly did not help the situation.

Sadly I think there is going to be a tragedy in that neighborhood. IMO.

[day2day]

Before we know it the protestors/contestors/Anthony defenders will be lining up for tickets. Someone will be asking 'which side? The Anthony side is serving water and donuts and the protestor side will be serving lemonade and cinnamon buns'. 'Oh, I need three tickets for the protestor side, one adult two children please':rolleyes:

Three ring circus. Minus the elephants!

This was posted on craigslist

Everyone who wants to protest Casey can do it in one final, GRAND show of force.

On Saturday night at 7pm... Everyone come to Caylees driveway with flowers, dolls, cards, etc... create a wall of sympathy FOR CAYLEE and give no attention to the folks who live in the house. Then we all walk away forever. Caylee will have received the memorial service every innocent child should get.

The people who live in that house don't deserve any attention - ANYMORE!

Let the sheriffs office deal with the suspect.

/Turn the page on this tragedy

http://orlando.craigslist.org/rnr/847050836.html

[day2day]

Quoting my own post. I've had one full cup of java and I'm alert now, lol.

I got it!!! Casey was the 'event planner' for the "Fight Club":lol:

:eek: no you didn't.....lol

[nc1948]

Good Morning, all! It's still dark in Phoenix, but I'm sure it will be another bright, hot, sunny day. Regarding the trust fund: Did the bank close it and are they holding the money, or did someone withdraw whatever funds were there? Anyone have any idea how much money was there? Regarding the 'fight club': It seems to be more of a red herring from what I am able to tell.

It really is curious how the Anthonys are living with no apparent income. There's got to be $ coming from somewhere. I understand the Anthonys filed for bankruptcy earlier this year, so they can't do that again for a length of time. I hear George has been pan handling "for Caylee" on street corners, but that's not gonna do it.

Good morning--62 here in my house this morning. Feels so good.

Anyway-the living expenses thing has always bothered me. I remember the first couple of weeks we were discussing how in the world would you go back to work while something like this was going on. cindy did state somewhere that she would get 4 or 6 weeks special pay. But that should be long gone. Plus at the first bond hearing she stated that they lived from paycheck to paycheck. Obviously they are getting money from somewhere. Someone last night posted they thought or had heard that donations were about 80th. SOOO-are they using donations to pay their bills, so they will be free to search for Caylee. As far as I have seen they have not bought a bottle of water for any searchers.

[anyonesguess]

Hello Chrissy ~~ I've been waiting for someone to start a morning thread, thanks! All's been peaceful overnight from what I can tell, but there continue to be a lot of questions about where the money the Anthonys have collected has gone ---- especially regarding Lee and the Sun Bank Trust thing.

Well so far from what I can see, They now have a new survelliance system on their home. They have purchased a lot of sticks and yellow tape for their yard, body guards, t-shirts for the entire family, a new computer for Casey (IIRC, LE has her old one)

[AMS]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

I'm sorry, but IMO the neighbors who got the water bottles from George are the ones that started that one.

Not the protesters.


That is sure what it looked like from the video.

[commonguymd]

I said days ago that the Anthonys could have taken the high road and gone out to protestors and handed out water or even lemonade.
That would have shown some class....but nooooo they are not capable of showing any kind of respect to anyone else although they expect it to be gi ven to them.

That would have diffused the protesters looking for confrontation. It would have probably caused the problem to go away. The Anthonys, in their wanting to make money off the tragedy seem to want the situation as part of the narrative for a future book deal. No?

[nutterbutter]

It scares me. I have a feeling another tragedy is goin to happen on hopespring drive.
And you are right..they aren't searching..the trust fund has been closed for two days..but George was out yesterday collecting.
Go figure.

jmo

I bet he was not trying to collect a baby girl name Caylee alive or dead.mo

[marshmallow]

I'm wondering at how brave the neighbors suddenly are, now that the Guardian Angels are there to do crowd control.

Not blaming the Angels, they are a wonderful organization. Just saying its amazing how brave someone can be now that they think they are protected from actually following through with what they start.

And I'm not sure what the purpose of the water is. I would guess its to drink at home, but why is the water donated to begin with? They aren't outdoors searching.





it reminds me of a really lame soap opera. I hope all protesters, supporters, and press are removed from the house. Then George might find the time to thank the people who searched. The family gets things donated but does nothing towards finding Caylee.

I think I'm officially sick of that whole scene. No one at the house is doing anything toward finding Caylee. Not the protesters, not the bodyguards, certainly not the family.

[~jomomma~]

and last night i laughed at concernedmom cuz she was talking to herself on another thread!!! lmao!!

here, i was stuck on the late night thread, waiting for more posts :o

[aubrey04]

Gosh. I googled last night and read and read and read about this case. One thing that stuck out at me was a post I found on a website by a Zenaida Gonzalez who says she's not "the" Zenaida Gonzalez. Her workplace had been burglarized on June 9th... Casey originally said she dropped Caylee off on June 9th.. is it just another STRANGE coincidence in the case? Maybe, but they sure are stacking up high.

This has to be a different ZG than the one that news reporters talked to the other day - because that lady was a housekeeper, if memory serves me correctly.. This lady has an office job.

Here is her original post where she talks about not being "the" ZG:
http://forums.brevardcountymoms.com/viewtopic.php?t=7549&sid=55f06118764ad8715da1cedad07c04eb

Here is where she discusses being robbed:
http://forums.brevardcountymoms.com/viewtopic.php?t=6675

....very weird. This case is driving me NUTS! hammer

[day2day]

I bet he was not trying to collect a baby girl name Caylee alive or dead.mo

You are ABSOLUTELY right. I am still stuck here! I have read that Cindy filed for bankruptcy. How do you file for bankruptcy and sign a promisary note for $50,000.00?!

1. Protesters are the reason the Anthony's can't search.
2. Online bloggers are the reason the trust fund has closed. I wonder where they are depositing the funds they are collecting now?

Excuses..jmo

[msgatorslayer]

Three ring circus. Minus the elephants!

This was posted on craigslist

Everyone who wants to protest Casey can do it in one final, GRAND show of force.

On Saturday night at 7pm... Everyone come to Caylees driveway with flowers, dolls, cards, etc... create a wall of sympathy FOR CAYLEE and give no attention to the folks who live in the house. Then we all walk away forever. Caylee will have received the memorial service every innocent child should get.

The people who live in that house don't deserve any attention - ANYMORE!

Let the sheriffs office deal with the suspect.

/Turn the page on this tragedy

http://orlando.craigslist.org/rnr/847050836.html

:rose: .....

[SavannahStar]

and last night i laughed at concernedmom cuz she was talking to herself on another thread!!! lmao!!

here, i was stuck on the late night thread, waiting for more posts :o

Me too, don't feel bad. :lol:

[nc1948]

Very, Very interesting discussion last night on possibility Caylee is alive and this is all a scam to get money. Altho, we were all passing out theories(sp), it would explain Anthonys refusing to search, their total lack of asking for help searching, no pleas for help and also total lack of concern their daughter/granddaughter/niece is missing. Some great insite if anyone wants to read last night forum.

[Boxer]

morning everyone. stretch.
1. Sun Trust..I wouldn't donate right now. According to some people there seems to be a problem not with the bank but with the fund. It might, MIGHT be that Lee is funneling that money right to the Anthonys personally. The paypal listed might be Lee's own acct. There are a lot of upset people researching it at another site. I have not read all the stuff yet so I don't want to overspeak myself. read it today then decide..

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71309&page=11

2. Fight club...someone a couple of months ago from Craigs list said a firl on the site looked like Casey and that it was like a party site or maybe an escort site. I joined and got my login stuff but have not been able to log in. so I forgot about it till last night when I noticed people looking at it and discussing it.
That's all I know.pretty much nothing, lol

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=932938477

[SavannahStar]

You are ABSOLUTELY right. I am still stuck here! I have read that Cindy filed for bankruptcy. How do you file for bankruptcy and sign a promisary note for $50,000.00?!

1. Protesters are the reason the Anthony's can't search.
2. Online bloggers are the reason the trust fund has closed. I wonder where they are depositing the funds they are collecting now?

Excuses..jmo


Hey day2day, do we know for fact she filed for BK? The only place I read it is here. I know they do have a previous BK, and I don't recall when that was, BUT....there is a certain amount of time you have to wait after one BK that you can file another BK. :shrug:

[SandyO]

You are ABSOLUTELY right. I am still stuck here! I have read that Cindy filed for bankruptcy. How do you file for bankruptcy and sign a promisary note for $50,000.00?!

1. Protesters are the reason the Anthony's can't search.
2. Online bloggers are the reason the trust fund has closed. I wonder where they are depositing the funds they are collecting now?

Excuses..jmo

I've heard, and I may be wrong, that your credit is better than ever after filing bankruptcy because you no longer have any bills and the creditors know you can't file BK again.

[SavannahStar]

Nice to see the neighbors trying to take their neighborhood back.
Who were the Guardian Angels there for.
To protect the protestors or the family :confused:


I think the Guardian Angels are there to protect everyone. I'm glad they are there, they are a wonderful organization. :rose:

[VII]

or maybe an escort site.
http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=932938477

Maybe an explaination as to why Casey couldn't spend much time w/Caylee during the day ...

[Boxer]

Gosh. I googled last night and read and read and read about this case. One thing that stuck out at me was a post I found on a website by a Zenaida Gonzalez who says she's not "the" Zenaida Gonzalez. Her workplace had been burglarized on June 9th... Casey originally said she dropped Caylee off on June 9th.. is it just another STRANGE coincidence in the case? Maybe, but they sure are stacking up high.

This has to be a different ZG than the one that news reporters talked to the other day - because that lady was a housekeeper, if memory serves me correctly.. This lady has an office job.

Here is her original post where she talks about not being "the" ZG:
http://forums.brevardcountymoms.com/viewtopic.php?t=7549&sid=55f06118764ad8715da1cedad07c04eb

Here is where she discusses being robbed:
http://forums.brevardcountymoms.com/viewtopic.php?t=6675

....very weird. This case is driving me NUTS! hammer

someone here about a month ago emailed with that Zenaida and got responses. Can't remember what the responses were though. My memory is terrible

[day2day]

Hey day2day, do we know for fact she filed for BK? The only place I read it is here. I know they do have a previous BK, and I don't recall when that was, BUT....there is a certain amount of time you have to wait after one BK that you can file another BK. :shrug:

Mornin Savanah..
I am gonna search that very thing right now. I have read it over and over but have yet to see documents. I am sure that they have to be out there.

:seeya:

[SavannahStar]

I've heard, and I may be wrong, that your credit is better than ever after filing bankruptcy because you no longer have any bills and the creditors know you can't file BK again.

You can file BK again, but not until after so many years. I forget, maybe 5 or 7? And there are two types of BK. One is sorta like credit counseling, where you pay only a certain amt. of credit owed, and on a strict timetable. The other kind, Chapter 7, is where all your debts are discharged.

[Boxer]

Maybe an explaination as to why Casey couldn't spend much time w/Caylee during the day ...


nobody has confirmed it was her picture or that she went there.

[VII]

I think the Guardian Angels are there to protect everyone. I'm glad they are there, they are a wonderful organization. :rose:

:beer:

Also feel like others in that protestors, supporters and media need to pull out. It would be interesting to see what would change with the Anthony's of WE changed our reaction to this tragedy.

[nc1948]

Mornin Savanah..
I am gonna search that very thing right now. I have read it over and over but have yet to see documents. I am sure that they have to be out there.

:seeya:

Thanks, I am curious too. Keep hearing it, but am not sure.

[VII]

nobody has confirmed it was her picture or that she went there.

But not completely out of the realm of possiblity considering what we DO know.

[aubrey04]

someone here about a month ago emailed with that Zenaida and got responses. Can't remember what the responses were though. My memory is terrible

Oh thanks. I didn't see that. It's just strange that her business was robbed the same day Casey claimed that Caylee was last seen... and Casey had to get the name Zenaida from SOMEWHERE. I've never seen a case that has so many bizarre coincidences. It's like a movie, which you might enjoy but never think it could be possible in real life.

Strangeeeee

[Boxer]

But not completely out of the realm of possiblity considering what we DO know.

you're right about that. I can't make it sign me on even though I have a password. But I'm not computery.

[farrahrani]

You are ABSOLUTELY right. I am still stuck here! I have read that Cindy filed for bankruptcy. How do you file for bankruptcy and sign a promisary note for $50,000.00?!

1. Protesters are the reason the Anthony's can't search.
2. Online bloggers are the reason the trust fund has closed. I wonder where they are depositing the funds they are collecting now?

Excuses..jmo


I'm gonna venture a guess here. I'm betting they knew they'd be heading for bankruptcy eventually, and stretched their cards as far as they could go, and drew as much cash as they could on each, fibbed on some applications, got more cards, and got as much cash as they could to live off of before declaring bankruptcy. I've seen a lot of people do similar things.

I'm sure they had to offer some kind of collateral, either their vehicles, or another property or something somewhere. Or their home, but I would guess they have something stashed away that they could rely on. Or not. That part really isn't important.

I hope for peace today on our boards, and that the use of the iggy is silent and the first option members take today.

For Caylee :rose:

[Boxer]

Oh thanks. I didn't see that. It's just strange that her business was robbed the same day Casey claimed that Caylee was last seen... and Casey had to get the name Zenaida from SOMEWHERE. I've never seen a case that has so many bizarre coincidences. It's like a movie, which you might enjoy but never think it could be possible in real life.

Strangeeeee

yup, it is strange. On that Zenaida's blog there is an email address

[nutterbutter]

Good morning--62 here in my house this morning. Feels so good.

Anyway-the living expenses thing has always bothered me. I remember the first couple of weeks we were discussing how in the world would you go back to work while something like this was going on. cindy did state somewhere that she would get 4 or 6 weeks special pay. But that should be long gone. Plus at the first bond hearing she stated that they lived from paycheck to paycheck. Obviously they are getting money from somewhere. Someone last night posted they thought or had heard that donations were about 80th. SOOO-are they using donations to pay their bills, so they will be free to search for Caylee. As far as I have seen they have not bought a bottle of water for any searchers.

As far as I know they really have not searched for Caylee either.:shrug:
moo

[msgatorslayer]

Very, Very interesting discussion last night on possibility Caylee is alive and this is all a scam to get money. Altho, we were all passing out theories(sp), it would explain Anthonys refusing to search, their total lack of asking for help searching, no pleas for help and also total lack of concern their daughter/granddaughter/niece is missing. Some great insite if anyone wants to read last night forum.

Somebody borked up the planning, BADLY, by staging the decomp then.:seeya:

[Boxer]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17303070/detail.html

Confession?
On July 7, Casey Anthony wrote back in an online poem: "What is given can be taken away. Everyone lies, everyone dies."

Memorial?
On July 2, more than two weeks after Caylee was last seen, and two weeks before Cindy Anthony reported the little girl missing, Bobby Lee Williams gave Casey Anthony a tattoo.

Williams said he did not get a sense that Casey Anthony was looking for a child or worried.

For a half hour, Williams told investigators he drew a design on Casey Anthony's shoulder that read, "bella vida" or "beautiful life."


JMO but this really creeps me out.

Jackie Lomax song

[SavannahStar]

Thanks, I am curious too. Keep hearing it, but am not sure.

If she filed BK it is a matter of public record. I am on a site now that will tell me......waiting for my password from them. Will report back.

[Lilly12]

Nice to see the neighbors trying to take their neighborhood back.
Who were the Guardian Angels there for.
To protect the protestors or the family :confused:

I felt for the neighbors, but now I find they are part of the fray. I guess they want their 15 minutes on T.V or is it l5 seconds. moo

[SavannahStar]

I'm gonna venture a guess here. I'm betting they knew they'd be heading for bankruptcy eventually, and stretched their cards as far as they could go, and drew as much cash as they could on each, fibbed on some applications, got more cards, and got as much cash as they could to live off of before declaring bankruptcy. I've seen a lot of people do similar things.

I'm sure they had to offer some kind of collateral, either their vehicles, or another property or something somewhere. Or their home, but I would guess they have something stashed away that they could rely on. Or not. That part really isn't important.

I hope for peace today on our boards, and that the use of the iggy is silent and the first option members take today.

For Caylee :rose:

farrahrani, you cannot do that anymore since the bankruptcy reform act of a few years ago (getting more cards and building up debt prior to filing BK). That's fact.

[Boxer]

at the bond hearing cindy was asked if she was aware of a 13 thousand dollar debt, and a couple more financial questions. all she would say was no, she wasn't but that she was behind on some payments

[Armchairdet]

So, if there is no need to help search for Caylee is there a reason Cindy at least couldn't work? She says Caylee is alive. Someone could call her if there is an update. Also if George is collecting donations I am sure he either A. Has a 501c status, or B. Is keeping track of the money for tax reporting purposes.

[marshmallow]

I felt for the neighbors, but now I find they are part of the fray. I guess they want their 15 minutes on T.V or is it l5 seconds. moo


it's going to be harder for the HOA to make a case when the people they speak for are out there joining in gleefully.

[SandyO]

If she filed BK it is a matter of public record. I am on a site now that will tell me......waiting for my password from them. Will report back.

Oh good! I'd like to get that cleared-up, too. I read on this board the BK was earlier this year, maybe in April. Isn't BK a Federal thing? Are those records public and available?

[farrahrani]

farrahrani, you cannot do that anymore since the bankruptcy reform act of a few years ago (getting more cards and building up debt prior to filing BK). That's fact.


I didn't say it was legal. My former brother in law did it recently. Not all in one lump sum, but over a period of a few months, very gradually.

[Boxer]

So, if there is no need to help search for Caylee is there a reason Cindy at least couldn't work? She says Caylee is alive. Someone could call her if there is an update. Also if George is collecting donations I am sure he either A. Has a 501c status, or B. Is keeping track of the money for tax reporting purposes.

you cannot garner as much sympathy or empathy if you go back to work.....IMO

[SavannahStar]

Oh good! I'd like to get that cleared-up, too. I read on this board the BK was earlier this year, maybe in April. Isn't BK a Federal thing? Are those records public and available?

Yes, Federal. They would have filed in Florida Middle District. Yes, the records are public. You have to know where to go though. :D

http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/

[SandyO]

you cannot garner as much sympathy or empathy if you go back to work.....IMO

Besides, doesn't she have to babysit Casey?

[nutterbutter]

Hey day2day, do we know for fact she filed for BK? The only place I read it is here. I know they do have a previous BK, and I don't recall when that was, BUT....there is a certain amount of time you have to wait after one BK that you can file another BK. :shrug:

at least 7 yrs in Fl.
moo

[WillowInFlight]

So, if there is no need to help search for Caylee is there a reason Cindy at least couldn't work? She says Caylee is alive. Someone could call her if there is an update. Also if George is collecting donations I am sure he either A. Has a 501c status, or B. Is keeping track of the money for tax reporting purposes.
I really wonder if her employer asked her not to come back till things died down due to the media circus.

[Armchairdet]

Besides, doesn't she have to babysit Casey?

Hire a nanny :D

[ellegna]

Good morning all

Whoa! Just watched that video from last night.
This time I do not blame the protesters but whoever these other people were. If these were in fact neighbors, I appreciate their frustration but they were the aggressors. Threatening and taunting the protesters was making a bad situation worse.

Did anyone notice that mouth in the orange stripped shirt spit as he approached the Black male? Not good

[WillowInFlight]

Hire a nanny :D

:lol::lol:

[mojito]

This is where I'm stuck (good morning, by the way). What was Casey doing the past 2 years during the day? Someone had to have been seeing her out and about town, especially with a 2-year old in tow.

I've also wondered, as mentioned upthread, that Casey might have been involved in an escort service because she HAD to have been going somewhere, doing something.

A possible theory I've thought of is that maybe Caylee was getting to the point where she was able to verbalize where Casey was taking her during the day. Maybe Cindy found out and that's when the (alleged) fight ensued and Cindy threatened taking custody of Caylee and moving Casey out. JMO:shrug:

[SavannahStar]

I didn't say it was legal. My former brother in law did it recently. Not all in one lump sum, but over a period of a few months, very gradually.

I'm quite surprised that his attorney would allow that. This is very, very difficult to do now. Almost impossible with the newer law.

[day2day]

Somebody borked up the planning, BADLY, by staging the decomp then.:seeya:

Sadly, i don't think that Caylee is alive. It might explain though why the Anthony's refused to help TES?! People donating for a "live" Caylee.
And it bugs me that they didn't offer some of the search monies to Tim. At least HE searched.

jmo

[WillowInFlight]

Good morning all

Whoa! Just watched that video from last night.
This time I do not blame the protesters but whoever these other people were. If these were in fact neighbors, I appreciate their frustration but they were the aggressors. Threatening and taunting the protesters was making a bad situation worse.

Did anyone notice that mouth in the orange stripped shirt spit as he approached the Black male? Not good

Who was George handing out water to and why?

[chrissybot]

at least 7 yrs in Fl.
moo
I think it's 7 yrs here in Jersey too. Just checked the cam, looks like its stuck again, cause it's very bright here on the east coast.

[Boxer]

I really wonder if her employer asked her not to come back till things died down due to the media circus.

I don't know. She said before that she had 5 weeks vaca, the from what she said her company had a trust for "things like this" but I'm wondering if she took FMLA. but you only get 12 weeks per rolling year from FMLA.

[WillowInFlight]

Sadly, i don't think that Caylee is alive. It might explain though why the Anthony's refused to help TES?! People donating for a "live" Caylee.
And it bugs me that they didn't offer some of the search monies to Tim. At least HE searched.

jmo

What I will never understand is why after asking for Tims help she then had a fit when he started searching.

[day2day]

Yes, Federal. They would have filed in Florida Middle District. Yes, the records are public. You have to know where to go though. :D

http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/

LOL..well i would have been searching forever. Seems George had some problems with ccards. :(

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=15747ae6-b04f-4095-8844-36d55f7e9e8a&CaseID=5597736

[Lilly12]

it's going to be harder for the HOA to make a case when the people they speak for are out there joining in gleefully.


That is a great point!

[Boxer]

LOL..well i would have been searching forever. Seems George had some problems with ccards. :(

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=15747ae6-b04f-4095-8844-36d55f7e9e8a&CaseID=5597736

and one of those problems overlaps the current problem of WHERE IS CAYLEE

[Armchairdet]

I don't know. She said before that she had 5 weeks vaca, the from what she said her company had a trust for "things like this" but I'm wondering if she took FMLA. but you only get 12 weeks per rolling year from FMLA.

Really? Her company has a trust for things like this. Intersting. I would like to know more about that. Is there a monthly payment until it is resolved? Or will it run out at some point? Enquiring minds want to know.

[day2day]

What I will never understand is why after asking for Tims help she then had a fit when he started searching.

The same reason they hate the press/love the press.
LE is bad/HELP me LE...

:shrug:

[SavannahStar]

Who was George handing out water to and why?

Whoever it was, it was prolly cuz they were thirsty?

[SavannahStar]

LOL..well i would have been searching forever. Seems George had some problems with ccards. :(

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=15747ae6-b04f-4095-8844-36d55f7e9e8a&CaseID=5597736


I'll let you know as soon as I get in that site.

[day2day]

and one of those problems overlaps the current problem of WHERE IS CAYLEE

I dunno Boxer-this case is disturbing on so many levels. I suppose as long as Caylee is out there-questions will be asked...:shrug:

jmo

[nutterbutter]

Hire a nanny :D
omg coke everywhere................:biggrin::D

[nc1948]

Somebody borked up the planning, BADLY, by staging the decomp then.:seeya:

I know, it does not answer many of the questions. But geez, nothing else has either. I believe that when this is over(am not sure what that will be) that we will still not have answers to so many questions. This case would not be accepted as a script for a movie as so much is so unbelievable.

[cassidy]

I think the Guardian Angels are there to protect everyone. I'm glad they are there, they are a wonderful organization. :rose:

And from what I saw on the video, they did a great job of diffusing a possibly volitile situation last nite.

[Boxer]

what happened last night?

[Lilly12]

I really wonder if her employer asked her not to come back till things died down due to the media circus.

Also,didn't someone say they have a trust fund where she works. Why work when you can tap into the trust fund. I wonder if Cindy is using a great share of it. I wonder if there is a limit how much you can receive. I wonder if there will be any money left for others. I wonder, I wonder, I wonder. moo

[Boxer]

Really? Her company has a trust for things like this. Intersting. I would like to know more about that. Is there a monthly payment until it is resolved? Or will it run out at some point? Enquiring minds want to know.

don't know, it's just what she stated at the first bond hearing on the stand

[desmom]

what happened last night?


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

[AJandTam]

Good morning all

Whoa! Just watched that video from last night.
This time I do not blame the protesters but whoever these other people were. If these were in fact neighbors, I appreciate their frustration but they were the aggressors. Threatening and taunting the protesters was making a bad situation worse.

Did anyone notice that mouth in the orange stripped shirt spit as he approached the Black male? Not good

What happened last night? Link please. Haven't seen this one yet.

[nutterbutter]

What I will never understand is why after asking for Tims help she then had a fit when he started searching.
he was getting to close for comfort?:shrug:
mo

[Boxer]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US


thanks, ma'am:seeya:

[nc1948]

farrahrani, you cannot do that anymore since the bankruptcy reform act of a few years ago (getting more cards and building up debt prior to filing BK). That's fact.

I seem to remember reading that with the bankruptcy act anything bought or charged 2 years before filing is not covered by bankruptcy. This may not be fact. My memory is definitely not what it used to be.

[day2day]

They ABSOLUTELY have problems with ccards because Casey uses them whenever she has a whim.

Not the princess!!! IIRC Casey claimed George had an online gambling problem ..lol

[Armchairdet]

don't know, it's just what she stated at the first bond hearing on the stand

Yeah, I was just thinking. I figured that information was not made public, just adding it to my list of financial incentives that are available for the Anthony family should they be unable to locate Caylee.

[Destini]

Good morning all

Whoa! Just watched that video from last night.
This time I do not blame the protesters but whoever these other people were. If these were in fact neighbors, I appreciate their frustration but they were the aggressors. Threatening and taunting the protesters was making a bad situation worse.

Did anyone notice that mouth in the orange stripped shirt spit as he approached the Black male? Not good

Yes, I noticed that, too. I guess having the Guardian Angels there is just making people braver. They can spout off at the mouth and know there will be no follow through because the Angels will break it up.

A show of force by the neighbors standing in addition to GA might be a good thing but not if they are going to instigate stuff. I noticed the orange shirt guy's wife/girlfriend led him off, presumably toward their home. I guess they'll be "protesting" at his house next.

Just curious how far this will all go. If it were a movie, martial law would be declared, a curfew would be imposed & the whole neighborhood put on lockdown. That's what it feels like sometimes, a reality show, a movie. Hmm.

[GinoA797]

Good Saturday Morning everyone!
I just can't believe the twists & turns in this case. I'm on line off&On most of the day. I watch NG at night, and when I log on in the morning I have no idea what anyone's talking about:confused:
Sun Bank? Trust funds? fight clubs? and what ABOUT lee? I just cannot seem to keep up.
well chrissy, I wish you the best with your little sickies. And I'll try once again to catch up.

I am so with you on this. I watched last NG last night, thought I knew what was going on...It is only 9:50am and I am out of the loop again!!! Hope everyone has a great weekend. I really hope that find Caylee today...

[nc1948]

So, if there is no need to help search for Caylee is there a reason Cindy at least couldn't work? She says Caylee is alive. Someone could call her if there is an update. Also if George is collecting donations I am sure he either A. Has a 501c status, or B. Is keeping track of the money for tax reporting purposes.


Now that was funny:lol:

[WillowInFlight]

Wasn't the original bankruptcy filed before Caylee was born?

I thought the first was filed when his car dealership folded.

[martha]

Good morning everyone, I guess we or no closer to finding caylee today than we were the very first day we were told she was missing. I do pray she is alive and ok but my heart just tells me she is not. Sure hope my heart is wrong. I really think we would all go look for her if we lived close. I just can;t understand how the a's or not out every min of every day looking. Jmho:rose:

[Boxer]

boy...George's neighbors aren't helping keep things calm. at least one is a hothead.

[margaret kep]

Not the searchers (are you kidding me?), he's giving bottled water to the neighbors who were "standing guard" on the sidewalk in front of his house. All the while these same neighbors are shouting obscenities at the protesters who were across the street.

It seems like tragedy brings out the worst in people. I've always thought just the opposite. May baby angel Caylee be playing with the angels and probably asking them "what's up dude". I keep remembering this was her favorite saying.:rose:

[Boxer]

I thought the first was filed when his car dealership folded.


I think there has been a long history of financial problems for that family.

[SavannahStar]

I seem to remember reading that with the bankruptcy act anything bought or charged 2 years before filing is not covered by bankruptcy. This may not be fact. My memory is definitely not what it used to be.


I don't remember the exact time frame, I don't believe it is as long as two years though. I do know that before the BK reform act, it was very common for people to go out and get new credit and buy a bunch of new stuff and owe thousands and thousands more, and then go file BK. I even had a friend who did that, probably around 10/15 years ago. It is virtually impossible to do that now. They are very, very strict.

[desmom]

Also,didn't someone say they have a trust fund where she works. Why work when you can tap into the trust fund. I wonder if Cindy is using a great share of it. I wonder if there is a limit how much you can receive. I wonder if there will be any money left for others. I wonder, I wonder, I wonder. moo


The company DH works for has a similar program. There is a maximum limit. It is not set up for an employee to use as a means of long term support, but to assist an employee during an emergency. jmo

[SavannahStar]

Not the princess!!! IIRC Casey claimed George had an online gambling problem ..lol

Did Casey claim that, or did Rick?

[WillowInFlight]

I think there has been a long history of financial problems for that family.
I think you're right, and Casey isn't to blame for all of it.

[nc1948]

The company DH works for has a similar program. There is a maximum limit. It is not set up for an employee to use as a means of long term support, but to assist an employee during an emergency. jmo


This nosy mind wonders how much/how long?

[chrissybot]

I was searching around for news on Caylee today, just found this blog. Didn't know if you guys saw it yet. http://wordpress.com/tag/caylee-anthony/

With my luck this link won't work, cause as most of you know I am not good with links. I really wish LynnGweeny was here!:(

[Armchairdet]

You don't think the media and protesters would follow her to her job and create havoc there? I do.


I don't know, I never see much media footage of Lee or George when they are out and about. I also thought being a medical care establishment that LE may step in for the safety and privacy of those in the Doctor's office and ask that they stay a certain distance. But, I guess I can add that reason to my list of financial incentives for the Anthony's to not find Caylee. She probably makes more off the fund her employer offers + donations + unemployment than she did anyway.

[WillowInFlight]

Did Casey claim that, or did Rick?

I thought it was Rick, I thought he said that around the same time he was giving out a lot more personal family info.

[nc1948]

I was searching around for news on Caylee today, just found this blog. Didn't know if you guys saw it yet. http://wordpress.com/tag/caylee-anthony/

With my luck this link won't work, cause as most of you know I am not good with links. I really wish LynnGweeny was here!:(



I think earlier someone mentions LynnGweeny and said they knew where she was and what had happened to her. Maybe they will repeat.

[SavannahStar]

I was searching around for news on Caylee today, just found this blog. Didn't know if you guys saw it yet. http://wordpress.com/tag/caylee-anthony/

With my luck this link won't work, cause as most of you know I am not good with links. I really wish LynnGweeny was here!:(



Chrissy (and all), I posted about LynnGweeny on the late night thread (or was it this one, I don't remember! Or you can check Open Court. Someone has heard from her. She has a family situation she is dealing with right now, she will be back eventually.

[marshmallow]

when is the last time we saw anyone in this family focused solely on Caylee?

[deep*fear]

Good morning everyone, I guess we or no closer to finding caylee today than we were the very first day we were told she was missing. I do pray she is alive and ok but my heart just tells me she is not. Sure hope my heart is wrong. I really think we would all go look for her if we lived close. I just can;t understand how the a's or not out every min of every day looking. Jmho:rose:

We are closer - Tim will be back and I think he was close -- that's how Cindy dared to be so nasty about TES.

What I cannot understand is the Anthonys had a gun hidden in Georges's car (they are above the law in their minds) -- why didn't they ply Casey with liquor and whatever else she wanted (maybe pot) and get the truth that way... they could have had one of her ''friends" bring it to her so she wouldn't be suspicious.
If they couldn't get the truth that way, take all her comforts away, computer phone, bed, etc --- waterboarding is a good way to the truth :chicken:

[nc1948]

I don't know, I never see much media footage of Lee or George when they are out and about. I also thought being a medical care establishment that LE may step in for the safety and privacy of those in the Doctor's office and ask that they stay a certain distance. But, I guess I can add that reason to my list of financial incentives for the Anthony's to not find Caylee. She probably makes more off the fund her employer offers + donations + unemployment than she did anyway.


She would not get unemployment in NC. You have to be available to work and actively looking for work. We all know she is much to busy looking for Caylee to look for work.

[WillowInFlight]

I think earlier someone mentions LynnGweeny and said they knew where she was and what had happened to her. Maybe they will repeat.

It's on Open Court

[chrissybot]

Chrissy (and all), I posted about LynnGweeny on the late night thread (or was it this one, I don't remember! Or you can check Open Court. Someone has heard from her. She has a family situation she is dealing with right now, she will be back eventually.
O thank you Savannah. Hope everything is o.k. with Lynn soon!:rose:Lynn
:rose:Caylee

[day2day]

Did Casey claim that, or did Rick?

You are probly right. Rick claimed George had online gambling problems, Casey claimed he had online women problems..:shrug:

Right now they have a missing Caylee problem. I hope they find her soon. :rose:

[Boxer]

when is the last time we saw anyone in this family focused solely on Caylee?


crickets......

[sofiesmom]

I was waiting in a long line last night at the grocery store, and being the passive aggressive person I am, to get back at them for not having enough registers open, I always read magazines for free in this situation.

So, Casey and Caylee were on the cover of The Globe. Now, I know this isn't that great of a source, and I'd never actually buy it (LOL), but here's what their story was about:

It was friend Kristine's speculation that this whole thing was a fierce revenge by Casey against Cindy. K thinks that Casey killed Caylee quietly by drowning or knocked her out with the chloroform and in both scenarios, she gave Caylee to the gators.

Another lane opened, so I didn't read the whole thing. I know there has been speculation here about this scenario, and it has been haunting me for a long time...I'm afraid Caylee's not going to be found.

[Lilly12]

What I will never understand is why after asking for Tims help she then had a fit when he started searching.



Because, I beleive she wanted him to search only for a live body. That to me is, well I don't have the words, it defies description. Can't image anyone not wanting to know where their grandchild (that they raised) is, so they could bring her home, dead or alive. BRING HER HOME. I have no compassion for her. Only for nice people, NOT. moo

[SavannahStar]

You are probly right. Rick claimed George had online gambling problems, Casey claimed he had online women problems..:shrug:

Right now they have a missing Caylee problem. I hope they find her soon. :rose:

I do too. Lord knows we need some REAL news in this case. SOME break.

[WillowInFlight]

when is the last time we saw anyone in this family focused solely on Caylee?

Oh come on now, they are sporting their Caylee T shirts, even mother of the year has been wearing hers daily.

[WillowInFlight]

You are probly right. Rick claimed George had online gambling problems, Casey claimed he had online women problems..:shrug:

Right now they have a missing Caylee problem. I hope they find her soon. :rose:
Well thats really rich coming from Casey.

[VII]

I'm sorry.
I wouldn't want to be a patient of hers, expecialllly, now :eek:

[Rayosunshine]

Jackie Lomax song

Lomax song. Is it titled something like, Beautiful Life? I herd part of it this past week and was interested in hearing the whole thing. Is it the one that has a line in it that goes, don't cry for me at my funeral, or very similar? Another one I like is, "I'll see you on the other side", cannot remember the artist.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Boxer]

Every other family of a missing child/person that I can think of has accepted that ground searches are necessary. The Anthony's are protecting Casey and/or themselves. IMO


it's not in their best interest to have anyone pop up with a dead Caylee. I think they are willfully and with purpose choosing Casey over Caylee right now.

[Armchairdet]

The police can't stop the media or protesters from camping out in front of a doctor's office. It's public property.

WHo knows...maybe her employers asked her to take some time off or offered her a paid leave of absence?



Well, I guess I can't fault them for hanging out at home and living off donations etc. The protestors have made it to where they cannot go to work or have lives. Even if Casey goes back to jail, since the grandparents still did not search for Caylee, and I have heard some protestors use that as their reason for being there, then they cannot work because they still would not be searching, thus the protestors would still be around.

Good point. I feel bad now for blaming the Anthony's when clearly they don't really have a choice to be working.

[day2day]

I do too. Lord knows we need some REAL news in this case. SOME break.

Caylee is out there somewhere. I once believed that Tim had found her. But i don't anymore. I also think that someone besides Casey knows the truth. It is more than heartbreaking that she hasn't been found.

:rose:

[Boxer]

Lomax song. Is it titled something like, Beautiful Life? I herd part of it this past week and was interested in hearing the whole thing. Is it the one that has a line in it that goes, don't cry for me at my funeral, or very similar? Another one I like is, "I'll see you on the other side", cannot remember the artist.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom


I don't remember, but it does talk about no answer to phone calls.

[Boxer]

I'm sure it's something that is given for a certain period of time ..
I mean, the fund wouldn't pay her indefinitely ..
Would it? :confused:

it must have limits, otherwise how would it continue on for others

[rosejustrose]

ITA - The video doesn't show 'how' George got to the store for water. Maybe a neighbor drove him? George was calm though. Going back into his house and people were screaming at him. That neighbor guy in the orange shirt couldn't keep his mouth shut though.

And I only seen one adult in the protester group. The rest look to be teens and kids. Guess this is the kewl thing to do on a Friday night.

And George used the side door, not the garage. IMO.

[toadii]

Hey day2day, do we know for fact she filed for BK? The only place I read it is here. I know they do have a previous BK, and I don't recall when that was, BUT....there is a certain amount of time you have to wait after one BK that you can file another BK. :shrug:
in my notes i have "a" cindy anthony filing bankruptcy on 05-12-08, but do not have a link to post confirming it so i put it aside. i started following the money early on, but got sidetracked by the circus...some days i have to leave the boards and just feel sad.
keep in mind that there are other cindys, [but thank God only one of her], one of them already well into her career in the criminal justice system.
even LE confused cindys on the warrant that lists the items taken from the home on July 16.
that lists cindy's correct lic #, however the DOB and physical description match a cindy born in 1980.


i hope this" MIS- information" does not render the search warrant null and void :eek:

[marshmallow]

we're closing in on a hundred days (appx?). That went through my head this morning. One hundred days. If this is Casey's idea of a punked episode, she got us. I just don't see it as that.
Caylee could be with the Nanny, who for some reason went from nannying to kidnapping. Can't see that either.


Nothing makes sense and the only proof we have of her being alive comes out of Casey's mouth. For this long amount of time she's had the ability to talk, she just doesn't want to which is very sad funny because according to her friends and past men, she can't shut the hell up most of the time.
It's turned into nothing about Caylee but plenty about The Anthony's vs LE, the Anthony's vs the media, the Anthony's vs searchers, the Anthony's vs the protesters and harassers.

I really wish any protesters who want to give a big old middle finger to the Anthony's vs...whoever now ..would instead ask Tim back and volunteer to search or to bring food and water to searchers. Let's get off the Anthony train and back on track to find Caylee.

[day2day]

Well, I guess I can't fault them for hanging out at home and living off donations etc. The protestors have made it to where they cannot go to work or have lives. Even if Casey goes back to jail, since the grandparents still did not search for Caylee, and I have heard some protestors use that as their reason for being there, then they cannot work because they still would not be searching, thus the protestors would still be around.

Good point. I feel bad now for blaming the Anthony's when clearly they don't really have a choice to be working.

But it doesn't stop George from parking himself in a Publix lot and collect donations? :shrug:

[Armchairdet]

it must have limits, otherwise how would it continue on for others

Well I don't know. Is it just something that office has, or sort of like an insurance policy type thing that any Dr. can offer to his or her employees as a benifit. Or perhaps they pay a couple bucks a paycheck. Just like a disability policy, it goes on and on to the next person, and the next.

[rosejustrose]

Lomax song. Is it titled something like, Beautiful Life? I herd part of it this past week and was interested in hearing the whole thing. Is it the one that has a line in it that goes, don't cry for me at my funeral, or very similar? Another one I like is, "I'll see you on the other side", cannot remember the artist.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom


Isn't it Brad Paisley?

[st777jo]

Well, I guess I can't fault them for hanging out at home and living off donations etc. The protestors have made it to where they cannot go to work or have lives. Even if Casey goes back to jail, since the grandparents still did not search for Caylee, and I have heard some protestors use that as their reason for being there, then they cannot work because they still would not be searching, thus the protestors would still be around.

Good point. I feel bad now for blaming the Anthony's when clearly they don't really have a choice to be working.

IMO, they, the A's, definitely brought it on themselves. I also watch the cam, and during the all is quiet. Why do the A's come out after midnight, knowing full well there are protesters out? I have "absolutely" no sympathy for any of the A's.

[nc1948]

And we all know that proper, family of a missing person attire, is the most essential element of a missing person's search. :rolleyes:


Amen......

[SavannahStar]

in my notes i have "a" cindy anthony filing bankruptcy on 05-12-08, but do not have a link to post confirming it so i put it aside. i started following the money early on, but got sidetracked by the circus...some days i have to leave the boards and just feel sad.
keep in mind that there are other cindys, [but thank God only one of her], one of them already well into her career in the criminal justice system.
even LE confused cindys on the warrant that lists the items taken from the home on July 16.
that lists cindy's correct lic #, however the DOB and physical description match a cindy born in 1980.


i hope this" MIS- information" does not render the search warrant null and void :eek:

I'm in the process of checking on the BK. Not sure where you checked; was the BK filed in FL Middle District, US Bankruptcy Court? It would give the name "Cynthia" with middle initial.

[Armchairdet]

But it doesn't stop George from parking himself in a Publix lot and collect donations? :shrug:

That is what I asked originally. But if I agree with you, then the next person may say that is different, or they have to find him, he can go at different hours and throw them off. So, I agreed.:D

[SavannahStar]

Savannah, thanks for the update .. :seeya:

You're quite welcome! We all miss her! :seeya:

[Boxer]

Well I don't know. Is it just something that office has, or sort of like an insurance policy type thing that any Dr. can offer to his or her employees as a benifit. Or perhaps they pay a couple bucks a paycheck. Just like a disability policy, it goes on and on to the next person, and the next.


who knows..all I know is she referred to it as a trust her company has. that can mean so many things...





Mornin Rosejustrose!

[WillowInFlight]

I'll probably get it for this statement but, IMO, the Anthony's have brought this attention on themselves by insisting to keep bringing Casey home. During her longest stay in jail the attention at their house had really died down. Even the media was losing interest but the whole protester thing was instigated by Casey's repeated releases. In fact, IIRC the protesters went away after her 2nd arrest but have stayed put ever since. The Anthony's are stubornly sacrificing their entire neighborhood for the sake of what I believe to be their murderer daughter.

ITA, they seem to have their priorities a little screwed up, they seem to have forgotten this is all about CAYLEE.

[SavannahStar]

I'm sorry.
I wouldn't want to be a patient of hers, expecialllly, now :eek:

I wouldn't mind it under normal circumstances, but right now with all that is happening in her life, I doubt she could perform her job well at all. Too much stress. Whether one likes Cindy or detests her, there is no doubt she is under a lot of stress. IMO anyway.

[Boxer]

Isn't it Brad Paisley?

old Jackie Lomax


Everybody knows – nobody cares
Nobody cries
Everybody looks – nobody sees
No-one will open their eyes

Everybody runs – nobody wanna help
Left with an empty heart

And both of us thinking we’re better
Than anything else on this earth
If we could just live to the letter
We could maybe find out what it’s worth
What it’s worth

Everybody waits – nobody’s ever in
No-one to answer the phone
And everybody wants – nobody wants to give
You’re taking more than your share
Everybody lies – nobody speaks
No-one to tell the truth

Everybody knows, everybody looks
Everybody runs, everybody waits
Everybody wants, everybody lies
And in the end, everybody dies
Without even living

[rosejustrose]

who knows..all I know is she referred to it as a trust her company has. that can mean so many things...





Mornin Rosejustrose!

Morning! !

[nutterbutter]

when is the last time we saw anyone in this family focused solely on Caylee?

I must have missed something I didnt even know there was a first time.moo:shrug:

[Boxer]

I must have missed something I didnt even know there was a first time.moo:shrug:

there was, but she got in line late this time

[nutterbutter]

She would not get unemployment in NC. You have to be available to work and actively looking for work. We all know she is much to busy looking for Caylee to look for work.
same laws in FL active looking,able and availble to work.mo

[VII]

old Jackie Lomax


Everybody knows – nobody cares
Nobody cries
Everybody looks – nobody sees
No-one will open their eyes

Everybody runs – nobody wanna help
Left with an empty heart

And both of us thinking we’re better
Than anything else on this earth
If we could just live to the letter
We could maybe find out what it’s worth
What it’s worth

Everybody waits – nobody’s ever in
No-one to answer the phone
And everybody wants – nobody wants to give
You’re taking more than your share
Everybody lies – nobody speaks
No-one to tell the truth

Everybody knows, everybody looks
Everybody runs, everybody waits
Everybody wants, everybody lies
And in the end, everybody dies
Without even living

Also searching lyrics and found Bella Vida by Tony Carey, more of Casey's genre'?

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/t/tony_carey/bella_vida.html

:shrug:

[WillowInFlight]

Jail has got to be pure hell because it's hard to imaging anything worse than the situation at that house.
Whats funny is the guards said Casey was a model prisoner, that she spent most of her time reading books from the prison library, she caused no problems, sounds like she was comfortable there.:shrug:

[Lilly12]

Every other family of a missing child/person that I can think of has accepted that ground searches are necessary. The Anthony's are protecting Casey and/or themselves. IMO

You just reminded me of something. I saw on TV (true story) a young girl was held captive in a hole in the ground. There were ground searches. She escaped alive. Why does Cindy think ground searches are only for the dead. They are not, are they? Something amiss with Cindy's rationale. moo

[VII]

Whether one likes Cindy or detests her, there is no doubt she is under a lot of stress. IMO anyway.


Ethically, I wouldn't think she would be allowed to work, omo...

[cassidy]

But it doesn't stop George from parking himself in a Publix lot and collect donations? :shrug:

Is this a 1st in any missing child/person case? A family member in the parking lot of a store seeking donations? Really? He's actually doing that?

[SavannahStar]

Whats funny is the guards said Casey was a model prisoner, that she spent most of her time reading books from the prison library, she caused no problems, sounds like she was comfortable there.:shrug:


I forgot about that. You're right.

[SavannahStar]

Ethically, I wouldn't think she would be allowed to work, omo...


Can you elaborate? Not sure what you mean by "ethically" she wouldn't be allowed to work.

[Boxer]

in jail that was the only activity open to her. to be a model prisoner..lol

[Boxer]

Ethically, I wouldn't think she would be allowed to work, omo...

cause of all the lies?

[day2day]

Jail has got to be pure hell because it's hard to imaging anything worse than the situation at that house.

Absolutely!

[joolz]

I'm out of the Anthony news loop, so can someone please tell me if the Guardian Angels have made any statements about why they are there? Is it to protect the Anthonys or keep peace in the neighborhood or what? I was kind of stunned when I watched NG last night and saw that there were there. :shrug:

TIA

[day2day]

I am watching Cindy Anthony's bond hearing testimony..and she says ABSOLUTELY alot...........hammer

[SavannahStar]

I'm out of the Anthony news loop, so can someone please tell me if the Guardian Angels have made any statements about why they are there? Is it to protect the Anthonys or keep peace in the neighborhood or what? I was kind of stunned when I watched NG last night and saw that there were there. :shrug:

TIA

They have not made a statement to my knowledge but I assume they are there to protect EVERYONE.....protestors, the Anthonys, neighbors, even the media if need be. I think it's wonderful they are there.

[SavannahStar]

I am watching Cindy Anthony's bond hearing testimony..and she says ABSOLUTELY alot...........hammer


Absolutely.





;)

[chrissybot]

I'm out of the Anthony news loop, so can someone please tell me if the Guardian Angels have made any statements about why they are there? Is it to protect the Anthonys or keep peace in the neighborhood or what? I was kind of stunned when I watched NG last night and saw that there were there. :shrug:

TIA
I think the GA's are there to keep the peace & I believe another neighbor called them to come out.

[Boxer]

I'm out of the Anthony news loop, so can someone please tell me if the Guardian Angels have made any statements about why they are there? Is it to protect the Anthonys or keep peace in the neighborhood or what? I was kind of stunned when I watched NG last night and saw that there were there. :shrug:

TIA

to protect the anthonys. one said he saw on tv what was happening and they came to try to keep the peace, but there was a scuffle night before last that leaves a lot of questions imo

[cassidy]

I think the GA's are there to keep the peace & I believe another neighbor called them to come out.

If it was the neighbor who was mouthing off last nite, he got a rude awakening. They didn't let him get away with it either.
I think they are there to try and keep peace.

JMO

[chrissybot]

If it was the neighbor who was mouthing off last nite, he got a rude awakening. They didn't let him get away with it either.
I think they are there to try and keep peace.

JMO
you mean that neighbor that was spitting??? Ick

[SavannahStar]

to protect the anthonys. one said he saw on tv what was happening and they came to try to keep the peace, but there was a scuffle night before last that leaves a lot of questions imo


:confused: I saw the scuffle last night on video and GA wasn't even involved. I think they are there to protect everyone. You don't?

[shellzbi]

morning all!

Can someone explain the SunTrust Bank situation.

Also the 12K debt Casey got into.

Thank You

[Ladyhawk]

They have not made a statement to my knowledge but I assume they are there to protect EVERYONE.....protestors, the Anthonys, neighbors, even the media if need be. I think it's wonderful they are there.

From the link:
""We have the right to speech, right to have a safe home, safe community and to sleep good at night. That's why we're here," said a Guardian Angels member identified as Colorado."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17510586/detail.html

[cassidy]

you mean that neighbor that was spitting??? Ick

yep, that one. ewwwwwwww.......

[Boxer]

They have not made a statement to my knowledge but I assume they are there to protect EVERYONE.....protestors, the Anthonys, neighbors, even the media if need be. I think it's wonderful they are there.



yes, they have made a statement and declared sides, imo

http://www.local6.com/news/17509745/detail.html

[Rayosunshine]

Isn't it Brad Paisley?

Thanks Rose. I'll note Brad Paisley too. Just saw lyrics on two different "Beautiful Life" songs. One is definitely titled, "Bella Vita", but neither one mentions something about not crying for "me" at my funeral. Still need to find that one. Any song along those lines has alot of meaning for me, as my late son was a musician, and anything that will help me be right again can't hurt.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[nutterbutter]

I do too. It's not a peaceful protest. They heckle and mock whoever comes in and out of that house. They just want to be part of the CA freak show...get their 15 minutes of fame. I think the protesters are NOT innocent bystanders in these confrontation, they are instigators. I think their constitutional rights get by passed as soon as they start throwing F-bombs and insults, and it then turns into law breaking harassment...IMO. The "protesters" make me sick. :cuss:

LB
Anthony clan feed right into this stuff by arming temselves and confronting those outside instead of staying inside and calling officer to handle it.That is where the Anthony family are at fault.mo

[Rayosunshine]

IMO, they, the A's, definitely brought it on themselves. I also watch the cam, and during the all is quiet. Why do the A's come out after midnight, knowing full well there are protesters out? I have "absolutely" no sympathy for any of the A's.


When we have no compassion for humanity, we will be in big trouble.

Isabelle ,
RaysMom

[FrankieBones1]

:seeya: Good morning everyone!! please continue...Hi, Chrissy! Thanks for being on the ball this morning. You did great! Doesn't sound like much happened overnight on Hopespring Drive.

[WillowInFlight]

:confused: I saw the scuffle last night on video and GA wasn't even involved. I think they are there to protect everyone. You don't?

I absolutely do.

[SavannahStar]

yes, they have made a statement and declared sides, imo

http://www.local6.com/news/17509745/detail.html

"Declared sides"?? A bit dramatic don't you think? Don't you think they are trying to keep the peace amongst ALL the people there at the Anthonys' home? Do you think if GA started beating up a protestor, the GA wouldn't step in, because of the "side" they are on? Oh please!

[Armchairdet]

Watch Lee next.

I can't find the link. I am looking on the link thread, I know it is right in front of my face, Help...me...:confused: please

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning everyone. I am so glad that people are looking into the trust set up by the anthony family. If funds are being diverted for the personal gain of lee, george and cynthia, I hope they are charged with fraud to the full extent of the law.

Here is the WS thread that explains what has happened so far, very interesting reading imo.:

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71309&page=11

The Guardian Angels are a good thing I believe, they will prevent any of the anthonys from charging the protestors with Hammers and bats or any other weapon. IMO. hammer

[day2day]

Absolutely.





;)

It must be a popular word in their home! This testimony is....painful :(

[Fallen Angel]

From the link:
""We have the right to speech, right to have a safe home, safe community and to sleep good at night. That's why we're here," said a Guardian Angels member identified as Colorado."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17510586/detail.html

i love the guardian angels. first time i saw them was in NYC's subways in the late 80's. i was scared at first but then i started talking to them and fell in love.

then in 92 i met Curtis Sliwa and OMG he's such a wonderful man. God bless him for all the work him and his angels.

if anyone would like to find out more about them you can go here http://www.guardianangels.org/index.php

[Rayosunshine]

Can you elaborate? Not sure what you mean by "ethically" she wouldn't be allowed to work.

Competence and mental stability are taken seriously by the State Nursing Boards, and I am sure they are not immune to what is taking place.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Lilly12]

Ground searches are for the living as well as for the dead. So why is Cindy so adamant about about ground searches. Because she knows they will not find a live Caylee? And finding a deceased Caylee will reveal what? What is Cindy afraid of? moo

[chrissybot]

Hi, Chrissy! Thanks for being on the ball this morning. You did great! Doesn't sound like much happened overnight on Hopespring Drive.
TY. LOL you know that was my 1st time starting a thread, I got tired of waiting for someone to start one & I know the weekends are usually on the slower side.:seeya:

[Fallen Angel]

Good morning everyone. I am so glad that people are looking into the trust set up by the anthony family. If funds are being diverted for the personal gain of lee, george and cynthia, I hope they are charged with fraud to the full extent of the law.

Here is the WS thread that explains what has happened so far, very interesting reading imo.:

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71309&page=11

The Guardian Angels are a good thing I believe, they will prevent any of the anthonys from charging the protestors with Hammers and bats or any other weapon. IMO. hammer


I believe they are there for EVERYONE else in the neighborhood NOT the Anthony's.

[VII]

Can you elaborate? Not sure what you mean by "ethically" she wouldn't be allowed to work.


From a "read only" site ....
Hope I get it right.

http://nursingworld.org/ethics/code/protected_nwcoe813.htm

Refer to Provision 2
2.2 Conflict of Interet for Nurses

"Nurses must examine conflicts arising between their own personal and professional ....

[SavannahStar]

Good morning everyone. I am so glad that people are looking into the trust set up by the anthony family. If funds are being diverted for the personal gain of lee, george and cynthia, I hope they are charged with fraud to the full extent of the law.

Here is the WS thread that explains what has happened so far, very interesting reading imo.:

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71309&page=11

The Guardian Angels are a good thing I believe, they will prevent any of the anthonys from charging the protestors with Hammers and bats or any other weapon. IMO. hammer

The Guardian Angels will also prevent anyone from harming the Anthonys, or the neighbors, or the media, or anyone else who happens to be there. That's a good thing, don't you think?

[Boxer]

:confused: I saw the scuffle last night on video and GA wasn't even involved. I think they are there to protect everyone. You don't?

not last night, the night someone grabbed George. It's all in the article..

[Rayosunshine]

you mean that neighbor that was spitting??? Ick


I thought I saw that too. Everytime I see someone do that I imagine the tuberculosis bacteria being spewed everywhere. Really grosses me out.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[joolz]

At what point in time would you be willing to abandon your own child, should they be accused of some criminal act which you thought them to be innocent? I consider the way law enforcement has acted, in encouraging the local trash to picket the parents home to be despicable.
It clearly is designed to put the whole family in the worst possible light and help to, ONCE AGAIN, poison any potential jury pool, should any actual murder charges result from their unproductive investigation efforts.
Saw the very same tactics used on the other coast in the town of Modesto.:rolleyes:


How do you get that law enforcement is "encouraging" people to picket? I see LE that is probably already stretched to the limit responding whenever they are called to keep the situation peaceful. :shrug:

Thanks to everyone who answered my Guardian Angels question. :)

[SavannahStar]

From a "read only" site ....
Hope I get it right.

http://nursingworld.org/ethics/code/protected_nwcoe813.htm

Refer to Provision 2
2.2 Conflict of Interet for Nurses

"Nurses must examine conflicts arising between their own personal and professional ....

Can you please put it in your own words. I don't want to read a link to a handbook. TIA. :seeya:

[day2day]

As does Lee .. :rolleyes:

I won't watch it then. I am absolutely sick of absolutely ..:seeya:

[dixielover]

Good morning everyone. I am so glad that people are looking into the trust set up by the anthony family. If funds are being diverted for the personal gain of lee, george and cynthia, I hope they are charged with fraud to the full extent of the law.

Here is the WS thread that explains what has happened so far, very interesting reading imo.:

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71309&page=11

The Guardian Angels are a good thing I believe, they will prevent any of the anthonys from charging the protestors with Hammers and bats or any other weapon. IMO. hammer



I think the websleuths information is very interesting. If they aren't handling this money correctly then have bigger problems than those protesters out front. Don't want the Feds to come down on you. Maybe they could have a family cell. jmo

[WillowInFlight]

i love the guardian angels. first time i saw them was in NYC's subways in the late 80's. i was scared at first but then i started talking to them and fell in love.

then in 92 i met Curtis Sliwa and OMG he's such a wonderful man. God bless him for all the work him and his angels.

if anyone would like to find out more about them you can go here http://www.guardianangels.org/index.php
You're right, I met Curtis and his then wife in the early 80's. He is a man that totally believes in the cause. I also remember when they hit the streets and people actually had protests trying to get rid of the GA.

[SavannahStar]

not last night, the night someone grabbed George. It's all in the article..


You've kinda lost me here but if you will elaborate I will respond. I think the GAs are doing a wonderful, very NEEDED job. If you disagree, why? TIA.

[nc1948]

Can you elaborate? Not sure what you mean by "ethically" she wouldn't be allowed to work.

I don't understand this either. Why would she not be ALLOWED to work. What would be unethical? Sorry mind is slow, i do not understand

[cassidy]

not last night, the night someone grabbed George. It's all in the article..

The Guardian Angels weren't there when someone grabbed George. that happend in the early morning hours Thursday. The Guardian Angels didn't arrive on the scene until Thursday nite.

IIRC

[Boxer]

You've kinda lost me here but if you will elaborate I will respond. I think the GAs are doing a wonderful, very NEEDED job. If you disagree, why? TIA.

well, I posted a link, You have to do your own reading...lol

[nutterbutter]

I think the websleuths information is very interesting. If they aren't handling this money correctly then have bigger problems than those protesters out front. Don't want the Feds to come down on you. Maybe they could have a family cell. jmo

family cell..............works for me.:lol:

[Regina.Lampert]

The Guardian Angels will also prevent anyone from harming the Anthonys, or the neighbors, or the media, or anyone else who happens to be there. That's a good thing, don't you think?


IMO, they don't need the Guardian Angels to keep them safe, all the anthonys have to do is not engage the protestors and they will be more then safe. Not engaging means no running across the street with a Hammer and getting into someone's face and threatening them, no running over to someone with a Hammer who isn't on their property and turning over their chairs, table and flag and putting your hands on them, no charging a person with a sign who isn't on their property and shoving them into the street and no running out into the night to face drunken people who are pitching pennies at their garage.

The Guardian Angels are a very good thing.

[Boxer]

The Guardian Angels weren't there when someone grabbed George. that happend in the early morning hours Thursday. The Guardian Angels didn't arrive on the scene until Thursday nite.

IIRC

exactly what I was saying....

[VII]

Can you please put it in your own words. I don't want to read a link to a handbook. TIA. :seeya:

Basically, in the medical profession, if you have conflict in your personal life which would impact the care you provide to your patients, decision making skills, you are STRONGLY encouraged to take a leave of absence, in the best interest of the those served.

in a NUTshell.

[sofiesmom]

I won't watch it then. I am absolutely sick of absolutely ..:seeya:Oh, absolutely! I'm also sick of "my gut".

[Ladyhawk]

Ground searches are for the living as well as for the dead. So why is Cindy so adamant about about ground searches. Because she knows they will not find a live Caylee? And finding a deceased Caylee will reveal what? What is Cindy afraid of? moo

I try to keep thinking that Cindy doesn't want to believe that Caylee is dead, that she is clinging to a tiny thread of hope that this nightmare will turn out to be a mistake and once Caylee's found, her world can go on BUT....with the Sun-Trust money issue, along with the knowledge that there are people in this world that will do some pretty rotten things for money, there is doubt starting to creep into my thinking. moo

[overflow123]

:seeya: Good Morning Everyone I miss alot of what has been going on because I have been going to school. It is nice to see you all and I hope we have good news today I really enjoy this board I learn alot from all of you this is the first time I have join a board like this interesting :rose: caylee we love you sweet girl

[Regina.Lampert]

I believe they are there for EVERYONE else in the neighborhood NOT the Anthony's.

You could be right FA, so far only the anthonys have felt the need to bring weapons to the party!

[cassidy]

exactly what I was saying....

LOL then you lost me too. I thought you meant they were there and did nothing. Wait..a light just came on..do you mean they didn't arrive until an Anthony was threatened?

[Lilly12]

When we have no compassion for humanity, we will be in big trouble.

Isabelle ,
RaysMom


oh gad, here we come with the compassion thing.....again. moo

[Boxer]

I'm not taking the A's off the hook by any means. All are at fault. If the protesters want to make a point, they can carry signs or chant, but once the yelling and heckling starts, they are way out of line. The A's should stay in side...ABSOLUTELY...:cool: because by coming out at midnight to fix sign and tape, they too are instigating. Two wrongs don't make it right...

LB
:seeya:


yup, it's a 50/50 thing. they antagonize each other.

[nc1948]

Basically, in the medical profession, if you have conflict in your personal life which would impact the care you provide to your patients, decision making skills, you are STRONGLY encouraged to take a leave of absence, in the best interest of the those served.

in a NUTshell.

I get it. Interesting. So she doesn't have to work, can get money from trust and donations, and go out and look for her misplaced Grandaughter.

[nutterbutter]

IMO, they don't need the Guardian Angels to keep them safe, all the anthonys have to do is not engage the protestors and they will be more then safe. Not engaging means no running across the street with a Hammer and getting into someone's face and threatening them, no running over to someone with a Hammer who isn't on their property and turning over their chairs, table and flag and putting your hands on them, no charging a person with a sign who isn't on their property and shoving them into the street and no running out into the night to face drunken people who are pitching pennies at their garage.

The Guardian Angels are a very good thing.
great post and puts lite on many of the things the Anthonys have done to make the situation what it is.Thanks for putting it into perspective.mo

[SavannahStar]

Basically, in the medical profession, if you have conflict in your personal life which would impact the care you provide to your patients, decision making skills, you are STRONGLY encouraged to take a leave of absence, in the best interest of the those served.

in a NUTshell.

Oh! Well that's exactly what I said, early......re the stress in her life!

The way it was presented, "ethically" made it sound like Cindy was too "unethical" to be a nurse. Now SOME may believe that, granted. I don't. But as far as what is going on in her personal life, yes indeed she should not be on the job.

Thank you!!

[rosejustrose]

I am watching Cindy Anthony's bond hearing testimony..and she says ABSOLUTELY alot...........hammer



I can't find the link to the bond hearing testimonies.:shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

oh gad, here we come with the compassion thing.....again. moo

And, what is so wrong about that?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Boxer]

LOL then you lost me too. I thought you meant they were there and did nothing. Wait..a light just came on..do you mean they didn't arrive until an Anthony was threatened?

http://www.local6.com/news/17509745/detail.html

[StickyBeak]

Interesting read of Dr. Phils upcoming episode on Caylee.
Glad Lisa Bloom going to have some input. Sickened by Rob driving casey around town for 9 days of nothing. Guess I may have to stomache watching him after all. Still wonder if his show is the anonymous bailer outer donation. JMO

http://www.drphil.com/shows/

Morning Everyone :seeya:

[day2day]

I can't find the link to the bond hearing testimonies.:shrug:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7130516&version=59&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1

scroll down...

[toadii]

morning all!

Can someone explain the SunTrust Bank situation.

Also the 12K debt Casey got into.

Thank You
per the bond hearing, cindy and /or george defaulted on 12K to city bank.

the fact that no one was in a hurry to respond to the registered letter from the tow co., found on a sunday and not acted upon until tuesday, suggested to me that these are people accustomed to receiving bad news in registered letter form. [ ie collection agencies]

[dixielover]

Basically, in the medical profession, if you have conflict in your personal life which would impact the care you provide to your patients, decision making skills, you are STRONGLY encouraged to take a leave of absence, in the best interest of the those served.

in a NUTshell.

Can you imagine going in and have Cindy as a nurse. It would be a hospital or clinic nightmare and the legal problems. I am on FML right now to rehab a shoulder and my job is only protected for 3 months. After that I would have to go on STD or LTD, I doubt Cindy would qualify or maybe she would due to mental capacity. I just bet she will not have a job. jmo

[WillowInFlight]

I get it. Interesting. So she doesn't have to work, can get money from trust and donations, and go out and look for her misplaced Grandaughter.

Only she has yet to go out and look for her misplaced grand daughter.