Caylee Anthony, saturday morning-9/20/2008 thread

[commonguymd]

I don't remember other family selling t-shirts and bracelets. They say that they are searching- it it by letting other people wear the tshirts.
I remember helping in a search and they handed me a t-shirt. imo

Wonder if they will franchise the potential out. I suppose they need a store front and additional kiosks on the new venture before it becomes a viable franchising possibility. They will get a good jump on start up capital by selling copyright deals on video and pictures as well as the book and movie deals.

jmo

[Boxer]

I understand completely. :)

George knows exactly whose dead body was in the trunk.

I believe he knows where Caylee's body is now.

What George says to the media is exactly that.

It's just what George says to the media.

I believe George's stress level has risen since he's come to realize law enforcement is now looking at the whole Anthony family.

IMO.


I agree. I think the name of the game now is lets all try to look interested while on camera

[anyonesguess]

There is nothing about this tragedy that I would "like".
Seemingly, unlike most of the members of this board, my only interest is seeing any and all people involved being considered as being INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
Nothing in the way of good is served by trashing those who have been accused when there is nothing to support it.
:hat:

We are not legally obligated to do that on a message board in considering someone innocent or guilty. We are NOT on on the jury. If we were in a court of law that would be different.

You should really read the links to this case. You will see lie after lie after lie. There are many links to SUPPORT the lies.

You can post your opinion all you want, and try to be the devil's advocate. It won't work with me however. I truly have made up my mind that Case is guilty, and I believe her family is covering it up imo until proven otherwise.

Now........... Carry on.:seeya:

[barskin&co.]

It's unthinkable, 95 days and no sign of little Caylee. Prayers for Caylee. :rose:

96 days, rose.

[Regina.Lampert]

Have you any evidence to support this assertion?
Thought Not.
:hat:

I think Frankie makes an excellent point and common sense would tell you that innocent people who cooperate with law enforcement would not turn around and criticize them. Only guilty and uncooperative perps do that sort of thing, imo.

[MyrDawn]

I don't know why I always heard it "the person that was in my granddaughters car has my granddaughter":shrug:.

I heard it as "the body in the trunk was not my granddaughters."

JMO

[Ladyhawk]

If there was ANY factual evidence that that child's dead body had been in the trunk of that car, Casey would already be charged with the murder.
She isn't, therefore, it doesn't exist.
Stupidity isn't reason enough to falsely accuse any citizen of a capital crime.:no:

Well since Casey hasn't been charged with murder, stupidity hasn't been used as a reason to falsely accuse her of a capital crime. jmo

[WillowInFlight]

Casey said she dropped Caylee off with ZG then went to work, and when she returned after work they were gone.

Then of course it was proven Casey did not work. But she still stands by her nanny story. Did she ever say why she dropped Caylee off with a nanny since she had since admitted she did not work?
Well not only that she said she dropped her off at the complex, surveillance tapes proved otherwise, so she changed her story and said she dropped her off at the park, I believe. All for the sole purpose of going to work. :shrug:

[Boxer]

Casey said she dropped Caylee off with ZG then went to work, and when she returned after work they were gone.

Then of course it was proven Casey did not work. But she still stands by her nanny story. Did she ever say why she dropped Caylee off with a nanny since she had since admitted she did not work?


well that one got all screwed up. Casey said she dropped the child off between 9 and 1 (sounds like a broad timeframe to me) but then we have George saying he talked to them at home at 12:50:shrug:

[nc1948]

Casey said she dropped Caylee off with ZG then went to work, and when she returned after work they were gone.

Then of course it was proven Casey did not work. But she still stands by her nanny story. Did she ever say why she dropped Caylee off with a nanny since she had since admitted she did not work?
.

NO_after she admitted she did not work there, she then went on to say that she left her cell on her desk there, that is how she lost it. Of course it was the one the company that she did not work for gave her.

[day2day]

Wonder if they will franchise the potential out. I suppose they need a store front and additional kiosks on the new venture before it becomes a viable franchising possibility. They will get a good jump on start up capital by selling copyright deals on video and pictures as well as the book and movie deals.

jmo

Starting with ebay...
It keeps people really busy closin these auctions down.
Bracelets
T-shirts
Pictures
Magazines..

:(

[barskin&co.]

There is nothing about this tragedy that I would "like".
Seemingly, unlike most of the members of this board, my only interest is seeing any and all people involved being considered as being INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
Nothing in the way of good is served by trashing those who have been accused when there is nothing to support it.
:hat:

Nothing says a serious commitment to justice like a statement followed by a Cat in the Hat icon!

[SavannahStar]

Hi SS:seeya: I just finished watching the bond hearing videos. During Cindy's testimony she admits that they refinanced their house for about $120K in 2005 and that she is behind in her bill payments. She did claim not to know about a $12+K loan/bill that George defaulted on. It does seem that they have some financial problems or just have a really hard time managing their money. IMO, BK would be the next logical step if they qualify under the new laws, that is. JMO.

Yes, it would seem logical! I'm trying to find out for sure though...:seeya:

[nutterbutter]

There is nothing about this tragedy that I would "like".
Seemingly, unlike most of the members of this board, my only interest is seeing any and all people involved being considered as being INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
Nothing in the way of good is served by trashing those who have been accused when there is nothing to support it.
:hat:
Caylee was an innocent babe.what happen to her rights in all this?She has no voice or choice. It was taken away by er so called mother.
moo

[Boxer]

They threw away Caylee, why wouln't they throw away donated memento`s.. They are spending their money defending her, she will go to jail, they will live finanically, emotionally, mentally broken. George will divorce Cindy eventually. He's still in Casey's script mode. JMO

btw as for them getting donation's at their home thru website, pennies and nickels don't add up to much. MO


I did see he (George) finally handed out some water last night......:mad:

[WillowInFlight]

I heard it as "the body in the trunk was not my granddaughters."

JMO

Well thats good enough for me, I would love to ask George who's body he thinks it was, and how it got in the trunk and in his back yard.

[anyonesguess]

Well not only that she said she dropped her off at the complex, surveillance tapes proved otherwise, so she changed her story and said she dropped her off at the park, I believe. All for the sole purpose of going to work. :shrug:

Still gets to me too that even after doing her walk down UNIVERSAL STUDIOS hall way before admitting that she did not work there she continued to lie. In that little office she admitted she lied. She then continues on in the interview that she dropped her off at ZGF's, and went to work at Universal. She had this so well practiced in her mind in case she would be questioned by LE, that even after admitting to lying, she did not deviate from her self scripted explanation.

[chrissybot]

I'm not going to quote a certain poster, but a mother that does not report her child missing for 31 days, & then proceeds to PARTY for those 31 days, then when "caught", does nothing to help but hinder the investigation(LYING), in MY eyes IS guilty! Lets not forget those that did say the car smelled like a decomp. body & evidence that has PROVEN there was a dead body in the trunk of that car. O yea, how can we forget the NON-remorse or even the NON-caring of said mother of missing child. IMO
:rose:Caylee

[Armchairdet]

Well not only that she said she dropped her off at the complex, surveillance tapes proved otherwise, so she changed her story and said she dropped her off at the park, I believe. All for the sole purpose of going to work. :shrug:

well that one got all screwed up. Casey said she dropped the child off between 9 and 1 (sounds like a broad timeframe to me) but then we have George saying he talked to them at home at 12:50:shrug:

.

NO_after she admitted she did not work there, she then went on to say that she left her cell on her desk there, that is how she lost it. Of course it was the one the company that she did not work for gave her.



I know LE is aware of all the incosistancies, and are just not addressing them in public, but wouldn't Casey and company know how many inconsistancies there are? I mean it is like they ignore the facts that have been proven and just move on with the lies.

[SavannahStar]

I did see he (George) finally handed out some water last night......:mad:


Awful, just awful. He handed out water. :mad:

:biggrin:

[commonguymd]

Starting with ebay...
It keeps people really busy closin these auctions down.
Bracelets
T-shirts
Pictures
Magazines..

:(

Once they have this enterprise rolling, I can see them swimming in Lincolns, Jacksons and Benjamins on the bed when they diversify into "charity" organization startups. Cindy will upgrade the diamond and George will take out his aggression and gambling addictions by investing in equine sports and entertainment. Lee will create his own fantasy online gaming site. They got it made.



Meanwhile Caylee is an afterthought to the new found wealth, maybe they even thank her for ingratiating them in new wealth with her demise.

JMO

[SandyO]

in jail that was the only activity open to her. to be a model prisoner..lol

and I remember hearing the exact same thing about Scott Peterson.

[Armchairdet]

Awful, just awful. He handed out water. :mad:

:biggrin:

He handed it out the other night too, via water hose. :shrug:

[Boxer]

I'm not going to quote a certain poster, but a mother that does not report her child missing for 31 days, & then proceeds to PARTY for those 31 days, then when "caught", does nothing to help but hinder the investigation(LYING), in MY eyes IS guilty! Lets not forget those that did say the car smelled like a decomp. body & evidence that has PROVEN there was a dead body in the trunk of that car. O yea, how can we forget the NON-remorse or even the NON-caring of said mother of missing child. IMO
:rose:Caylee



how about being a big enough loser to say that her lawyer was going to send some paperwork/articles over to the jail for her to read and that they would be good for some laughs....:shrug:

[MyrDawn]

Found it!

Raw video:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17337816/index.html

Near the end of the video..."the person that was in the back of my granddaughters' car was not my granddaughter".

[dixielover]

I did see he (George) finally handed out some water last night......:mad:

Probably to the protesters so that they will keep coming back-

It is a miracle that he is handing out drinks-happy hour at the Anthony's

Got to keep something going so the cameras will remain in place-more ammo for the book and soon to be movie of the week jmo

[Boxer]

Awful, just awful. He handed out water. :mad:

:biggrin:

it is awful....but understandable since they don't want any more searchers

[nc1948]

I know LE is aware of all the incosistancies, and are just not addressing them in public, but wouldn't Casey and company know how many inconsistancies there are? I mean it is like they ignore the facts that have been proven and just move on with the lies.

Can you imagine Defense lawyer with great big bulletin board, with post it notes trying to keep up with who said what, when and where. With all the lying,I think all prosecution will have to do is have a board(a big board) with all the lies.

[FrankieBones1]

I did see he (George) finally handed out some water last night......:mad:

And it was caught on video.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

I find this a bit confusing as it's hard to tell who's who after awhile. The Guardian Angels stepped in to nip it in the bud but the profanity kept on.

[Joan Weiss]

I understand completely. :)

George knows exactly whose dead body was in the trunk.

I believe he knows where Caylee's body is now.

What George says to the media is exactly that.

It's just what George says to the media.

I believe George's stress level has risen since he's come to realize law enforcement is now looking at the whole Anthony family.

IMO.Hi, LS. :seeya: ITA, and I believe his behavior speaks to that. He's angry because he wants everyone to stop fussing and go away; it's making him nervous. He perhaps knows more than we do about what LE is doing, and their investigation has him sweating bullets.

It was him who tried to derail the trail of evidence and point at some ficticious kidnappers that are being watched. jmo

[WillowInFlight]

Still gets to me too that even after doing her walk down UNIVERSAL STUDIOS hall way before admitting that she did not work there she continued to lie. In that little office she admitted she lied. She then continues on in the interview that she dropped her off at ZGF's, and went to work at Universal. She had this so well practiced in her mind in case she would be questioned by LE, that even after admitting to lying, she did not deviate from her self scripted explanation.
I know, like NG said last night how did LE keep a straight face.

[rosejustrose]

There is nothing about this tragedy that I would "like".
Seemingly, unlike most of the members of this board, my only interest is seeing any and all people involved being considered as being INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
Nothing in the way of good is served by trashing those who have been accused when there is nothing to support it.
:hat:


You do realize that a 2 1/2 year old toddler is missing, presumably lost by her mother. Where's the innocence in that??? JMO.

[day2day]

Awful, just awful. He handed out water. :mad:

:biggrin:

That is $20.00 they can account for!:biggrin:

[toadii]

This is just me but I will not be sending anything to them I can;t forget geroge throwing out the stuff people had sent to caylee. If she was coming home he should have saved that stuff for her. they have a washer I am sure. I just can;t give to someone who can;t tell the truth. Casey could tell the truth and stop all this right now. Le knows she is the one. jmho:rose:
to me george kicking to the curb all the stuffed animals representing the loving concern of others was as telling as when kate mccann washed poor Maddie's cuddle cat ...twice.

[FrankieBones1]

I know, I just didn't want to go looking for the link for the link needed people. I'm tired. lol rough day yesterday

I remember Cindy speaking about it, too. She said that the dead body could have been place in the trunk while it was in the impound yard. She said anyone could have had access to that trunk.

[nc1948]

Please don't tell me he was selling the shirts in his dead granddaughter's name? Strapped for cash is one thing, but making money off this is another. I have a feeling they hired that new attorney (I can't pronounce his name, let alone spell it) is after the cash factor. Get the A's on as many shows as possible - highest bidder only.

Like Dr. Phil -- it's my understanding he doesn't pay his guests, but provides airfare, lodging, and a daily pittance for expenses (hair and make up of course too). Same with Oprah.

Now, if they sold pictures, stories to the National Enquirer they could rake in a small fortune. The rag mags seem to pay quite a bit. And now I feel a bit bitter, because I bought the globe (but don't know who got paid for that article).

Let's sit back and see where they show up next ;)

They are selling t shirts and arm bands on the web site, with their address as send money to and with George and Lee emails.

[WillowInFlight]

Please don't tell me he was selling the shirts in his dead granddaughter's name? Strapped for cash is one thing, but making money off this is another. I have a feeling they hired that new attorney (I can't pronounce his name, let alone spell it) is after the cash factor. Get the A's on as many shows as possible - highest bidder only.

Like Dr. Phil -- it's my understanding he doesn't pay his guests, but provides airfare, lodging, and a daily pittance for expenses (hair and make up of course too). Same with Oprah.

Now, if they sold pictures, stories to the National Enquirer they could rake in a small fortune. The rag mags seem to pay quite a bit. And now I feel a bit bitter, because I bought the globe (but don't know who got paid for that article).

Let's sit back and see where they show up next ;)

They are selling the T shirts on the web site for 10.00

[rosejustrose]

Casey said she dropped Caylee off with ZG then went to work, and when she returned after work they were gone.

Then of course it was proven Casey did not work. But she still stands by her nanny story. Did she ever say why she dropped Caylee off with a nanny since she had since admitted she did not work?

No. She lawyered up pretty quickly after that and they couldn't interview her anymore. IMO.

[st777jo]

There is nothing about this tragedy that I would "like".
Seemingly, unlike most of the members of this board, my only interest is seeing any and all people involved being considered as being INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
Nothing in the way of good is served by trashing those who have been accused when there is nothing to support it.
:hat:

NOBODY on this board lost Caylee.

NOBODY on this board is lying, hiding, or insulting like the A's.

Most EVERYBODY on this board want to know::

Where Is Caylee?????

[marshmallow]

If there was ANY factual evidence that that child's dead body had been in the trunk of that car, Casey would already be charged with the murder.
She isn't, therefore, it doesn't exist.
Stupidity isn't reason enough to falsely accuse any citizen of a capital crime.:no:




I'm afraid I disagree with you but I can respect your opinion.

[Boxer]

Good to hear that you would more than meet the prosecution's qualifications as a juror. Congratulations!!:lol:

I don't think that's anyone's goal here...not even your's

[Joan Weiss]

I'm not going to quote a certain poster, but a mother that does not report her child missing for 31 days, & then proceeds to PARTY for those 31 days, then when "caught", does nothing to help but hinder the investigation(LYING), in MY eyes IS guilty! Lets not forget those that did say the car smelled like a decomp. body & evidence that has PROVEN there was a dead body in the trunk of that car. O yea, how can we forget the NON-remorse or even the NON-caring of said mother of missing child. IMO
:rose:CayleeEmotion only when daddy took the stand at the hearing and proved his love for her. imo

[day2day]

Florida Law requires that any person who knows, or has reasonable cause to suspect, that a vulnerable adult has been or is being abused, neglected, or exploited shall immediately report such knowledge or suspicion to the Florida Abuse Hotline on the toll-free telephone number, 1-800-96-ABUSE (1-800-962-2873).

Vulnerable adults are persons eighteen and over (including senior adults sixty and over) who, because of their age or disability, may be unable to adequately provide for their own care or protection. The Florida Abuse Hotline accepts calls 24 hours per day, seven days a week. The Abuse Hotline counselor is required to let the person calling know whether the information provided has been accepted as a report for investigation.

Abuse may be physical, mental, emotional, or sexual. Neglect can be self-neglect or neglect by a caregiver. A caregiver may be a family member, an in-home paid worker, a staff person of a program such as an adult day care center or of a facility such as a nursing home, or another person.

Exploitation means that a person in a position of trust knowingly, by deception and intimidation, obtains and uses or tries to obtain and use a vulnerable person's funds, assets, or property. This includes failure to use the vulnerable person's income and assets to provide for the necessities required for that person's care.

When you call the Abuse Hotline to make a report, have this information ready:

- Victim's name, address or location, approximate age, race, and sex.
- A brief description of the adult victim's disability or infirmity.
- Signs or indications of harm or injury, including a physical description if possible.
- Name, address, and telephone number of any possibly responsible person/ perpetrator.
- Relationship of the possibly responsible person/perpetrator to the victim, if possible. If the relationship is unknown, a report may still meet requirements for investigation.
- As the reporter, your name, address, and telephone number. This information is never given out. The reporter may choose to remain anonymous.
http://www.agingcarefl.org/

[WillowInFlight]

Good to hear that you would more than meet the prosecution's qualifications as a juror. Congratulations!!:lol:
Just curious, who were you before you got put on time out?

[Regina.Lampert]

I did see he (George) finally handed out some water last night......:mad:

Now let's not be unkind, he made water available the night before last too, from the end of his puny little hose.

[Ladyhawk]

Probably to the protesters so that they will keep coming back-

It is a miracle that he is handing out drinks-happy hour at the Anthony's

Got to keep something going so the cameras will remain in place-more ammo for the book and soon to be movie of the week jmo

Actually it was a thank you to the neighbors....at the very first of the video, an unidentified man says don't you want to thank your neighbors? and G says yes, I sure do (or something close to that) as they're walking toward the guy in the striped shirt and then G reaches into the plastic bag of waterbottles and gives one to another guy. IIRC

[rosejustrose]

Nothing says a serious commitment to justice like a statement followed by a Cat in the Hat icon!

:lol: Good one!!

[Joan Weiss]

I remember Cindy speaking about it, too. She said that the dead body could have been place in the trunk while it was in the impound yard. She said anyone could have had access to that trunk.That's beyond ridiculous, imo. If it's Caylee's DNA in that trunk, how does she explain that? By running outside with her hammer???????????????????

[WillowInFlight]

Now let's not be unkind, he made water available the night before last too, from the end of his puny little hose.

:lol::lol:

[nc1948]

They are selling the T shirts on the web site for 10.00

web site is www.helpfindcaylee.com. Donations can be sent to Hopespring dr. You can also purchase t shirts and armbands and contact uncle lee or george. go to the how to help section.

[Boxer]

Florida Law requires that any person who knows, or has reasonable cause to suspect, that a vulnerable adult has been or is being abused, neglected, or exploited shall immediately report such knowledge or suspicion to the Florida Abuse Hotline on the toll-free telephone number, 1-800-96-ABUSE (1-800-962-2873).

Vulnerable adults are persons eighteen and over (including senior adults sixty and over) who, because of their age or disability, may be unable to adequately provide for their own care or protection. The Florida Abuse Hotline accepts calls 24 hours per day, seven days a week. The Abuse Hotline counselor is required to let the person calling know whether the information provided has been accepted as a report for investigation.

Abuse may be physical, mental, emotional, or sexual. Neglect can be self-neglect or neglect by a caregiver. A caregiver may be a family member, an in-home paid worker, a staff person of a program such as an adult day care center or of a facility such as a nursing home, or another person.

Exploitation means that a person in a position of trust knowingly, by deception and intimidation, obtains and uses or tries to obtain and use a vulnerable person's funds, assets, or property. This includes failure to use the vulnerable person's income and assets to provide for the necessities required for that person's care.

When you call the Abuse Hotline to make a report, have this information ready:

- Victim's name, address or location, approximate age, race, and sex.
- A brief description of the adult victim's disability or infirmity.
- Signs or indications of harm or injury, including a physical description if possible.
- Name, address, and telephone number of any possibly responsible person/ perpetrator.
- Relationship of the possibly responsible person/perpetrator to the victim, if possible. If the relationship is unknown, a report may still meet requirements for investigation.
- As the reporter, your name, address, and telephone number. This information is never given out. The reporter may choose to remain anonymous.
http://www.agingcarefl.org/


you mean like when you're trusted with a birthday check and you knowingly change the info to benefit yourself? Or do you mean quietly replacing funds that your lying child-misplacing spawn has stolen?

thanks for the info

[Snoopy50]

Now let's not be unkind, he made water available the night before last too, from the end of his puny little hose.

Regina, I am so glad my coffee cup was empty!!!!:no:

[Acorn]

And it was caught on video.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7476333&version=1&locale=EN-US

I find this a bit confusing as it's hard to tell who's who after awhile. The Guardian Angels stepped in to nip it in the bud but the profanity kept on.

The neighbors & friends - flipping the bird in front of kids and TO a kid, verbally abusing a minor. The guy in the orange shirt charging across the road making threats of bodily injury and a death threat to the girl protester's boyfriend. If the BF's a minor, DCF should be called on the guy in the orange striped shirt.

The Anthony Guard...that's the quality of people you get who can be plied with a bottle of plastic that's filled with cancer causing chemicals.

[dixielover]

Just interested-for those people who do not think she is dead- what do you think happened to her?

Do you think it is a scam on Casey's part and Caylee is going to one day pop out of no where - there had to be others involve- do you think the parents helped her out? If she didn't tell all of these stupid lies she probably could have said she was kidnapped at Target - better story than she is giving now. Just wondering imo

[nc1948]

web site is www.helpfindcaylee.com. Donations can be sent to Hopespring dr. You can also purchase t shirts and armbands and contact uncle lee or george. go to the how to help section.

Quoted myselt---Please do no mistake this as an endorsement. I am sickened by the Anthonys using this Child for monetary gain. Just wanted everyone to know how this family is operating.

[Boxer]

Actually it was a thank you to the neighbors....at the very first of the video, an unidentified man says don't you want to thank your neighbors? and G says yes, I sure do (or something close to that) as they're walking toward the guy in the striped shirt and then G reaches into the plastic bag of waterbottles and gives one to another guy. IIRC

awwwww...makes me think George has been taking acting lessons...

what's that Lassie? Somebody is stuck in the well?

[Ladyhawk]

They are selling the T shirts on the web site for 10.00

Is the $10 listed as a price or a suggested donation...if it's a price wouldn't there be sales tax that has to be paid either by G or by the purchaser?

[rosejustrose]

how about being a big enough loser to say that her lawyer was going to send some paperwork/articles over to the jail for her to read and that they would be good for some laughs....:shrug:


Oh yeah, because this all so funny, NOT. They are the biggest bunch of screwballs I've ever seen. It's beyond reason that they support Casey and her lie that someone has Caylee. They know Caylee is gone and that Casey did something to her. IMO they are turning this tragedy into a windfall for themselves. Truly sickening, IMO.

[FrankieBones1]

Actually it was a thank you to the neighbors....at the very first of the video, an unidentified man says don't you want to thank your neighbors? and G says yes, I sure do (or something close to that) as they're walking toward the guy in the striped shirt and then G reaches into the plastic bag of waterbottles and gives one to another guy. IIRC
Had to watch the vid for a second time. The guy in the striped shirt is a neighbour and a supporter. He just about had a physical fight with the tall skinny dude who was protesting with his girlfriend. A Guardian Angel jumps in quick and separated the two. The neighbor, in anger, says to the protester, "I'll crack your head wide open".

"I'll ****'ing kill you"!

[GrannyB]

So you do, in fact believe that one showing stupidity is reason enough to accuse them of any and all crimes, without proof?
I, too have trouble agreeing with you, but do indeed believe you have the right to it.
:seeya:


I'm curious.. What do you think happened to Caylee?

[barskin&co.]

No. She lawyered up pretty quickly after that and they couldn't interview her anymore. IMO.

She informed LE (not by her own impetus, mind you) about Caylee being missing. They asked her questions to help them find her missing daughter. She replied in lies, lies and more lies. Every bit of the story she told investigators was proven to be false. She even admitted that everything was false in the interview at Universal. Then, she lawyered up and refused to talk. To recap, Casey never called LE to inform them that that her daughter was missing. When Cindy reported it, and she talked to them, she said nothing but lies and then shut up.

Bottom line: Casey Anthony has consistently refused to tell LE anything about her missing daughter. And it has now been 96 days! Why won't Casey talk?

[need2no]

Can you imagine Defense lawyer with great big bulletin board, with post it notes trying to keep up with who said what, when and where. With all the lying,I think all prosecution will have to do is have a board(a big board) with all the lies.


I would imagine the prosecution team has already started the laborious
task of working on a Power Point presentation of all the various stories and lies from Casey, as well as one for ALL the men in Casey's life. I hope the jury is allowed to take notes, it will be a challenge to keep up.....

[WillowInFlight]

web site is www.helpfindcaylee.com. Donations can be sent to Hopespring dr. You can also purchase t shirts and armbands and contact uncle lee or george. go to the how to help section.

I just sent George an email asking what T shirts they were selling, curious to know if the butterfly ones are included.

[Takotna]

Still gets to me too that even after doing her walk down UNIVERSAL STUDIOS hall way before admitting that she did not work there she continued to lie. In that little office she admitted she lied. She then continues on in the interview that she dropped her off at ZGF's, and went to work at Universal. She had this so well practiced in her mind in case she would be questioned by LE, that even after admitting to lying, she did not deviate from her self scripted explanation.

Hi everyone! Just popping in to check on events...tutoring all day:)

Yup, Anyonesguess, every time I hear this I want to bang my head on the table! I think LE was feeling the same way, at one point one says, dripping with scarcasm - 'glad we got that one cleared up' (or something like that). I chuckle every time I hear this comment.

Have a great day, all -

AllMO:)

[Boxer]

Is the $10 listed as a price or a suggested donation...if it's a price wouldn't there be sales tax that has to be paid either by G or by the purchaser?


yes there would have to be tax unless they got a tax number for charity exemption

[barskin&co.]

Is that with the June 7, 9th or 16th "last seen" date????

Which reminds me- as always, I go to bed with this tradegy. I got a suspicion.

Casey kept saying "30 days". Why was she or Cindy counting the days????

Well, maybe originally Caylee was kidnapped because Casey stole from drug dealers, and it was the drug dealer who told her she had 30 days to pay them back. This is why she never called police. The drug dealer give up. Kill Casey and return the body to Casey, who in turn puts it in her car around the 26th. George gets involved in the coverup.

I know this sounds looney, but the fact that everything in this case does....

ofcourse then, as I am tying this, where does the cloroform come into play????

I use June 16, giving the Anthonys the benefit of the doubt. We know Caylee was with her GGF on June 15.

[nc1948]

yes there would have to be tax unless they got a tax number for charity exemption

it is suggested donation. Wonder if you would get one if you sent less?

[chrissybot]

Had to watch the vid for a second time. The guy in the striped shirt is a neighbour and a supporter. He just about had a physical fight with the tall skinny dude who was protesting with his girlfriend. A Guardian Angel jumps in quick and separated the two. The neighbor, in anger, says to the protester, "I'll crack your head wide open".

"I'll ****'ing kill you"!
Yikes:chicken:

[Armchairdet]

Much the same as LE, I lack sufficient information to formulate an opinion. The only difference is that I admit it. They seem to prefer to speculate.

Maybe they know more than they have shared with you.

[tiny paw-prints]

Good morning from California!

Can someone please tell me the "lie" that Lee told which was discussed on NG last night? Briefly. No link is needed. Please. Thank you.

:rose: Justice for sweet Caylee

[nutterbutter]

He handed it out the other night too, via water hose. :shrug:
lol:beer::biggrin:

[Boxer]

Perhaps a two inch diameter fire hose would have been far more appropriate?

perhaps staying inside as directed by the 911 dispatcher would have been far more appropriate

[marshmallow]

So you do, in fact believe that one showing stupidity is reason enough to accuse them of any and all crimes, without proof?
I, too have trouble agreeing with you, but do indeed believe you have the right to it.
:seeya:


please don't speak for me. I do a good enough job making myself pretty clear. it's too nice a day to get caught in a bickerment :rose:

[GrannyB]

Much the same as LE, I lack sufficient information to formulate an opinion. The only difference is that I admit it. They seem to prefer to speculate.


What in the world makes you think LE doesn't have an opinion? And who is "they"?

[WillowInFlight]

Is the $10 listed as a price or a suggested donation...if it's a price wouldn't there be sales tax that has to be paid either by G or by the purchaser?
Listed as price, nothing said about tax.

[rosejustrose]

Can you imagine Defense lawyer with great big bulletin board, with post it notes trying to keep up with who said what, when and where. With all the lying,I think all prosecution will have to do is have a board(a big board) with all the lies.

Or a family portrait of the Anthonys:rolleyes:

[hamebone]

If Cindy was capable of using the washer to get the decomp smell from Casey's pants left in the car, she could have taken a few minutes to wash the allegedly smoke smelling toys. It just wasn't a priority for her, IMO.

ITA, wash them and give to a hospital or goodwill, if you dont want them for yourself.

[nc1948]

SOMEBODY's watching waaaaaaay too much TEE VEE.

or reading web site where they have items for sale.

[?noanswer]

I do remember her saying that about not losing another, I just don't remember when.


IIRC, it was when the media was chasing Lee and he sped off. JMO

[Boxer]

it is suggested donation. Wonder if you would get one if you sent less?

don't know:shrug: all I'm ever going to send them is 23 cents

[Armchairdet]

IIRC, it was when the media was chasing Lee and he sped off. JMO

I thought it was when George went off on the media the first time. IMO, IIRC

[WillowInFlight]

it is suggested donation. Wonder if you would get one if you sent less?

Probably, as long as it was more than 23 cents.

[chrissybot]

She informed LE (not by her own impetus, mind you) about Caylee being missing. They asked her questions to help them find her missing daughter. She replied in lies, lies and more lies. Every bit of the story she told investigators was proven to be false. She even admitted that everything was false in the interview at Universal. Then, she lawyered up and refused to talk. To recap, Casey never called LE to inform them that that her daughter was missing. When Cindy reported it, and she talked to them, she said nothing but lies and then shut up.

Bottom line: Casey Anthony has consistently refused to tell LE anything about her missing daughter. And it has now been 96 days! Why won't Casey talk?
Because she murdered her child-IMO

[Danette44]

It can also pose a problem if it is planted with the many loud mouths who are raking in millions at the expense of this tragedy.
Poisoning a potential jury pool should NEVER be the accepted norm.
:no:

You've got to be kidding?? They can do what they did with Scott Peterson and move her trial to another town - but then I guess you're going to say the "whole state" of Florida can not give her a fair trial. I'm 3 hrs north of orlando and we don't hear it on our local news and I'm in FL! And by the way - you or no one on this board could convince me with that last 911 call Cindy made claiming the "car" smelled like there was a dead body in it, wasn't from a grandmother convinced that something had happen to her granddaughter! That was shear panic in her voice and it was the TRUTH coming out of her mouth at that point. BTW - who "Planted", you on this board? You sure don't sound like a concern citzen and wanting justice for Caylee. JMOO

[Regina.Lampert]

Had to watch the vid for a second time. The guy in the striped shirt is a neighbour and a supporter. He just about had a physical fight with the tall skinny dude who was protesting with his girlfriend. A Guardian Angel jumps in quick and separated the two. The neighbor, in anger, says to the protester, "I'll crack your head wide open".

"I'll ****'ing kill you"!

Oh I was just waiting for the "N" word to be yelled by Mr. Orange shirt, completely ignoring the fact that many of the guardian angels are African Americans. This will not go away until casey anthony is out of that house, imo.

God help everyone if this nightmare is still going on during Halloween.

[need2no]

Good morning from California!

Can someone please tell me the "lie" that Lee told which was discussed on NG last night? Briefly. No link is needed. Please. Thank you.

:rose: Justice for sweet Caylee

The female guard said when the news about the air sample was released Casey had no reaction/no emotion. Lee told Rob Dick Casey fell apart and they thought they were going to have to take her to the hospital because of her blood pressure.

[commonguymd]

We have seen NO emotion , NONE from Casey.

But what about the other Anthonys?

HOW can they be in that house with the murderer of their granddaughter??

Isn't the house haunted with the ghostly sound of little feet that used to run down the hallway?

How can they carry on so callously without Caylee?

I have 2 grandbabies and expecting another in a few weeks, and as a Grandmother myself, I could not just carry on.

Caylee :rose:



I know how.

Cashing in at the expense of a dead child.

What is in the future?

1. Cindy upgrades the diamond, and gets a new Cayenne.
2. George sows his oats and satiates his gambling addiction with his own stable of horses for racing.
3. Lee opens up his own online fantasy war game site.
4. Casey shacks up with famous lawyer and foots the bill for vacations.

[rosejustrose]

Emotion only when daddy took the stand at the hearing and proved his love for her. imo

She was whimpering, sniffling and wiping tears during Cindy's testimony, too. But, I think they may have been out of embarassment. JMO.

[commonguymd]

SOMEBODY's watching waaaaaaay too much TEE VEE.

I will write the book lol.

[impartial]

Is that with the June 7, 9th or 16th "last seen" date????

Which reminds me- as always, I go to bed with this tradegy. I got a suspicion.

Casey kept saying "30 days". Why was she or Cindy counting the days????

Well, maybe originally Caylee was kidnapped because Casey stole from drug dealers, and it was the drug dealer who told her she had 30 days to pay them back. This is why she never called police. The drug dealer give up. Kill Casey and return the body to Casey, who in turn puts it in her car around the 26th. George gets involved in the coverup.

I know this sounds looney, but the fact that everything in this case does....

ofcourse then, as I am tying this, where does the cloroform come into play????

This does not sound looney to me.

Casey has been out of work for 2 years ... and yet her theft spree appears to be around the time that Caylee goes missing. Wiping out Amy's entire account seem more like an act of desparation than mere taking some money.

I think Casey got herself in some deep doo doo, with the wrong people. Hence her phone call to Jesse on the 16th of June. And then a mere 8 days later, Jesse quits the force. I'm not saying Jesse did anything to Caylee, but more that Casey reached out to Jesse for help of some kind.

There are too many coincidences around the missing of Caylee. Jesse quits the force, Dante (who lives at Sawgrass) quits a new job and moves to an unknown destination and does not to our knowledge respond to LE's note on his door to contact them.

Trying on some theories here ... drugs and drug people ... Casey dropped out of her circle of friends when she hooked up with TonE; and went on a theft spree.

Something to consider.

IMO

[bchand]

Good morning from California!

Can someone please tell me the "lie" that Lee told which was discussed on NG last night? Briefly. No link is needed. Please. Thank you.

:rose: Justice for sweet Caylee

Morning tiny paw-prints - IIRC Robert Dick said he was there when Casey got the news about the air test in the trunk and she was very unaffected by the news. Didn't care - didn't worry.

Later, Lee spun a story about how upset Casey was when she heard it. So upset she couldn't breathe etc etc. (I forget how far he took it but it was extreme.)

Dick said it was a complete LIE.

[Armchairdet]

Seems to be the going rate.

I remember seeing 23 cents somewhere, but cannot recall where. What is it in reference too?

[Unperson1984]

I remember Cindy speaking about it, too. She said that the dead body could have been place in the trunk while it was in the impound yard. She said anyone could have had access to that trunk.

Both Cindy and George were responding to media leaks from unnamed sources.

I believe Casey is responsible for something very bad happening to Caylee and I don't believe it was an accident. However the longer LE goes without arresting Casey for Caylee’s death, the more I doubt the validity of those leaks about the forensic evidence.

IMO

[need2no]

Because she murdered her child-IMO

And expects to get away with it!

[rosejustrose]

We have seen NO emotion , NONE from Casey.

But what about the other Anthonys?

HOW can they be in that house with the murderer of their granddaughter??

Isn't the house haunted with the ghostly sound of little feet that used to run down the hallway?

How can they carry on so callously without Caylee?

I have 2 grandbabies and expecting another in a few weeks, and as a Grandmother myself, I could not just carry on.

Caylee :rose:


Maybe that's because you are human. Congrats on the upcoming grandbaby:rose:

[chrissybot]

You've got to be kidding?? They can do what they did with Scott Peterson and move her trial to another town - but then I guess you're going to say the "whole state" of Florida can not give her a fair trial. I'm 3 hrs north of orlando and we don't hear it on our local news and I'm in FL! And by the way - you or no one on this board could convince me with that last 911 call Cindy made claiming the "car" smelled like there was a dead body in it, wasn't from a grandmother convinced that something had happen to her granddaughter! That was shear panic in her voice and it was the TRUTH coming out of her mouth at that point. BTW - who "Planted", you on this board? You sure don't sound like a concern citzen and wanting justice for Caylee. JMOO
Danette, I think we're being "monitored".:cool:

[Snoopy50]

She was whimpering, sniffling and wiping tears during Cindy's testimony, too. But, I think they may have been out of embarassment. JMO.

This girl does not know the meaning of embarrassed IMO. How could anyone take LE thru a place claiming she works there, stop and say oh I lied, I do not work here? I still cannot get the visual of that one out of my head.:shrug:

[Boxer]

I remember seeing 23 cents somewhere, but cannot recall where. What is it in reference too?

3 pennies, two nickles and one dime hurled at the speed of light at a garage door

[Cury-us Coyote]

I would imagine the prosecution team has already started the laborious
task of working on a Power Point presentation of all the various stories and lies from Casey, as well as one for ALL the men in Casey's life. I hope the jury is allowed to take notes, it will be a challenge to keep up.....

While considering the DA's strategy and next options, I wonder if FL juries are allowed to ask questions? TIA

o/t Perhaps Lenny is waiting for his special order Sarah glasses to arrive?

[DoubleALady]

None of this makes any sense. Either they are all crazy or they are running a scam to make money. If the latter is true, then the little girl may well be safe but hidden away with someone.

[MyrDawn]

Maybe they know more than they have shared with you.

I've never heard of a murder case where the LE shared all their evidence with the media and public the minute they got it and didn't hold anything back.

[trich]

I'm not going to quote a certain poster, but a mother that does not report her child missing for 31 days, & then proceeds to PARTY for those 31 days, then when "caught", does nothing to help but hinder the investigation(LYING), in MY eyes IS guilty! Lets not forget those that did say the car smelled like a decomp. body & evidence that has PROVEN there was a dead body in the trunk of that car. O yea, how can we forget the NON-remorse or even the NON-caring of said mother of missing child. IMO
:rose:Caylee


Anyway you look at it Casey is responsible for Caylee being "missing".
And IMO she should and hopefully will be held accountable.

[Armchairdet]

3 pennies, two nickles and one dime hurled at the speed of light at a garage door

Ah yes, thank you. And once the Anthony's put their two cents in they had a quarter.

[barskin&co.]

I remember seeing 23 cents somewhere, but cannot recall where. What is it in reference too?

When protestors threw things at the Anthony's gargage door the other night, it turned out to be one dime, two nickels, and three pennies.

[Snoopy50]

I remember seeing 23 cents somewhere, but cannot recall where. What is it in reference too?

Nickels, dimes, pennies thrown at the A's windows the other night tot:cool:aled 23 cents.

[WillowInFlight]

I remember seeing 23 cents somewhere, but cannot recall where. What is it in reference too?
Thats what was thrown at their door the other night.

[desmom]

There is nothing about this tragedy that I would "like".
Seemingly, unlike most of the members of this board, my only interest is seeing any and all people involved being considered as being INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
Nothing in the way of good is served by trashing those who have been accused when there is nothing to support it.
:hat:


IMO, Casey's lack of cooperation with LE makes her a suspect. I can't understand any mother not wanting to assist LE in finding their baby. Heck I can't understand any mother not reporting their baby missing.

I wonder how long Casey was willing to play the "Caylee is with the Nanny" game.

jmo

[commonguymd]

Both Cindy and George were responding to media leaks from unnamed sources.

I believe Casey is responsible for something very bad happening to Caylee and I don't believe it was an accident. However the longer LE goes without arresting Casey for Caylee’s death, the more I doubt the validity of those leaks about the forensic evidence.

IMO

My goodness, everyone is quite impatient. At this point I do believe law enforcement wants nothing more than murder in the first degree and they are willing to wait til the body is found. If I were in law enforcement and on this case, I would be furious with these folks and Casey in particular.

[st777jo]

I don't understand the question. I have always been ME.:rolleyes:

your a medical examiner????

[trich]

None of this makes any sense. Either they are all crazy or they are running a scam to make money. If the latter is true, then the little girl may well be safe but hidden away with someone.

If that were true who was the dead body in the trunk?

[5boxersmom]

The female guard said when the news about the air sample was released Casey had no reaction/no emotion. Lee told Rob Dick Casey fell apart and they thought they were going to have to take her to the hospital because of her blood pressure.


Me thinks the family uses blood pressure as an excuse alot. Didn't Cindy tell a protester her blood pressure was going to go up and didn't she also use it to the media about George? jmo

Caylee:rose:

[Ladyhawk]

Had to watch the vid for a second time. The guy in the striped shirt is a neighbour and a supporter. He just about had a physical fight with the tall skinny dude who was protesting with his girlfriend. A Guardian Angel jumps in quick and separated the two. The neighbor, in anger, says to the protester, "I'll crack your head wide open".

"I'll ****'ing kill you"!

It looked like that striped shirt guy lives right next door to G didn't it? I wonder if he's the neighbor that heard the argument the weekend of the 15th? I thought it was interesting that the tall man with G had to 'remind' him he should thank his neighbors for being out there....

[MyrDawn]

She was whimpering, sniffling and wiping tears during Cindy's testimony, too. But, I think they may have been out of embarassment. JMO.

I think she shed her tears for the only person she ever sheds tears for...herself. Poor little Casey...jailed without nail polish and having to sit in the courtroom hoping they'll set a low bond.

JMO

[Snoopy50]

None of this makes any sense. Either they are all crazy or they are running a scam to make money. If the latter is true, then the little girl may well be safe but hidden away with someone.
Ok, then whose body was in the trunk?:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

Is that with the June 7, 9th or 16th "last seen" date????

Which reminds me- as always, I go to bed with this tradegy. I got a suspicion.

Casey kept saying "30 days". Why was she or Cindy counting the days????

Well, maybe originally Caylee was kidnapped because Casey stole from drug dealers, and it was the drug dealer who told her she had 30 days to pay them back. This is why she never called police. The drug dealer give up. Kill Casey and return the body to Casey, who in turn puts it in her car around the 26th. George gets involved in the coverup.

I know this sounds looney, but the fact that everything in this case does....

ofcourse then, as I am tying this, where does the cloroform come into play????


Hey dori! Actually, it was 31 days. Casey used that # in the 911 call and Lee testified to the 31 days during the bond hearing. It is an unusual quirk, if you ask me. Why not just say a month or since June 16th. What's the significance of 31 day? Oh, maybe because it's one day after the script expired so now she can tell the truth. Hmmmmm.

[nutterbutter]

So you do, in fact believe that one showing stupidity is reason enough to accuse them of any and all crimes, without proof?
I, too have trouble agreeing with you, but do indeed believe you have the right to it.
:seeya:
were you on the board in another life?:shrug:
moo

[nc1948]

Thats is horrible in my opinion. I could understand if the money was funding a search but its not.

Note on web site- irony is they state all monies will go to searching. The family will not benefit. What searching. I have not seen any.

[dixielover]

None of this makes any sense. Either they are all crazy or they are running a scam to make money. If the latter is true, then the little girl may well be safe but hidden away with someone.

Well, if this is true - the hold family will be in jail and Caylee will be with a loving family- I would go for that
jmo

[impartial]

Both Cindy and George were responding to media leaks from unnamed sources.

I believe Casey is responsible for something very bad happening to Caylee and I don't believe it was an accident. However the longer LE goes without arresting Casey for Caylee’s death, the more I doubt the validity of those leaks about the forensic evidence.

IMO



I agree about the forensics.

Since you are firmly planted on the ground, and I can't seem to get you to make a climb ... perhaps you can get me down from the fence, getting uncomfortable up here.

Where is Caylee? How was she transported, how was she killed, when, and where and how without leaving any forensic evidence?

:seeya:

[need2no]

While considering the DA's strategy and next options, I wonder if FL juries are allowed to ask questions? TIA

o/t Perhaps Lenny is waiting for his special order Sarah glasses to arrive?



I don't know much about trial rules in FL...need to do some research.


:lol: So that explains why he hasn't worn glasses lately...bless his heart, I hear it's a 2 month wait. :biggrin:

[rosejustrose]

yes there would have to be tax unless they got a tax number for charity exemption


What about postage? Who's paying for that?

[toadii]

Elephants bring good luck as long as the tail end points toward the front of your house.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
i for one am grateful that cindy's tail end is pointed towards the house when she hammer in those signs!!!!

[Snoopy50]

Note on web site- irony is they state all monies will go to searching. The family will not benefit. What searching. I have not seen any.

I would bet that before it's all over, there will be an investigation into the A's finances by someone. If that isn't already being done....:read:

[Armchairdet]

Right, and instead of talking about Caylee and what she went through, she complained that she had lost weight???

Poor Grammy lost 29 pounds. Boo hoo.


But where is Caylee?!!

Hmm, suprised it did not occur to them to add a new name to the kidnapper list, perhaps coworker Jenny Craig?

[st777jo]

Right, and instead of talking about Caylee and what she went through, she complained that she had lost weight???

Poor Grammy lost 29 pounds. Boo hoo.


But where is Caylee?!!

If Cindy lost weight, maybe its because of Casey feeding off her for so long. jmo

[Boxer]

The Anthonys exaggerated a great deal.

They said rocks were thrown at the windows and at the garage door.

They claimed that garage door had a dent from the rocks and the windows had chips in them.

:rolleyes:


the dent, I think, was caused by the dude who pounded on it. No matter what though, the Anthonys should have stayed in the house. I do not condone pounding on their house/garage. However if somebody is crazy enough to do that, I'd stay away from them and call the police, not go after them with a bat.

[MyrDawn]

There is nothing about this tragedy that I would "like".
Seemingly, unlike most of the members of this board, my only interest is seeing any and all people involved being considered as being INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
Nothing in the way of good is served by trashing those who have been accused when there is nothing to support it.
:hat:

This is a message board. We're allowed to give our opinions on her guilt and innocence here. I'm not a member of the LE, court or Casey's jury, so I have every right to my opinon and am not obligated to presume Casey innocent until proven guilty.

It's your opinion there's nothing to support her guilt. It's my opinion there's a lot that supports her guilt.

[desmom]

Casey said she dropped Caylee off with ZG then went to work, and when she returned after work they were gone.

Then of course it was proven Casey did not work. But she still stands by her nanny story. Did she ever say why she dropped Caylee off with a nanny since she had since admitted she did not work?


Yep, dropped her off on June 9 and has not seen her since.

Cindy and Caylee were at the nursing home on June 15.

George saw Casey and Caylee on June 16.

I think it is rather strange a mother would not remember what day her daughter was "kidnapped".

jmo

[commonguymd]

LOL Idol -- My personal opinion is they will become bankrupt by their own actions. Had this family acted differently, with care and compassion, they may have received monetary donations. Remembering the Danielle Van Dam murder, the funeral was paid for by donations, and I know our company (where Damon works) donated generously. Those parents opened the door to the good, the bad, and the ugly - both took lie dector tests, and were happy to take them. We all knew their sincerity even though they weren't the perfect parents. No protestors, no bashing (other than that evil attorney Feldman). Brenda even went to Washington to seek tighter death penalty laws. Sorry if I'm rambling, but that case really hit close to home.

So you see, there is a way to handle the murder of innocent children, and IMHO the A's are doing the exact opposite of what any "normal" family would do to find their missing child/grandchild. We can start with the lie detector tests that the family is refusing to take.

Peace,

MOO




Most people not used to money who suddenly have it fall into their laps end up more broke and more destitute than when they started. Look at the miserable lottery winners years after winning the lottery. Many of them are broke and bankrupt.

[WillowInFlight]

were you on the board in another life?:shrug:
moo

Asked and answered, they're just "ME". ;)

[Boxer]

Right, and instead of talking about Caylee and what she went through, she complained that she had lost weight???

Poor Grammy lost 29 pounds. Boo hoo.


But where is Caylee?!!

that whizzed me off. How dare she have such self serving sympathy for hereself in the nidst of Caylee being gone....

[5boxersmom]

Right, and instead of talking about Caylee and what she went through, she complained that she had lost weight???

Poor Grammy lost 29 pounds. Boo hoo.


But where is Caylee?!!

Yeah and don't forget the earlier interviews. Cindy said she had not slept or ate. Who cares? Caylee is missing.

Caylee:rose:

[warrkat]

:lol: "from the end of his puny little hose"

I got a really nasty picture in my mind when I read that.
shame on me!

[jakee]

Both Cindy and George were responding to media leaks from unnamed sources.

I believe Casey is responsible for something very bad happening to Caylee and I don't believe it was an accident. However the longer LE goes without arresting Casey for Caylee’s death, the more I doubt the validity of those leaks about the forensic evidence.

IMO

I have a hard time thinking that LE would put a family through that despair, making them think Caylee was decomposing in a trunk! Would they really be that heartless to put a family through that? Is this common? :(

[dixie77]

Originally Posted by maybso
If there was ANY factual evidence that that child's dead body had been in the trunk of that car, Casey would already be charged with the murder.
She isn't, therefore, it doesn't exist.
Stupidity isn't reason enough to falsely accuse any citizen of a capital crime.
================================

U sound very familiar. Dont we know u? I'm pretty sure i do.

[GrannyB]

your a medical examiner????


ROFL another good one.:lol:

[forensicnut]

Good morning from California!

Can someone please tell me the "lie" that Lee told which was discussed on NG last night? Briefly. No link is needed. Please. Thank you.

:rose: Justice for sweet Caylee Here's from Nancy's transcript last night:

GRACE: Leonard Padilla, do you think that the brother, Lee, is changing his story? I noticed at the beginning, he was saying he had never heard of nanny Zenaida Gonzalez, but now he`s saying he`s known about her for about a year.

PADILLA: Well, he`s obviously changed his story, and Rob Dick can tell you how many times he`s changed his story since we first met him.

GRACE: Oh, good thought. What about it, Robert Dick?

ROBERT DICK, PROVIDED SECURITY FOR CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, he`s obviously changed. I mean, from the point of when he was there, you know, anything he could do to help us and telling us things, and down to towards the end there, where he was just flat lying. I mean, he was caught lying to our face.

GRACE: About what?

DICK: Well, for one thing, the attitude that Casey had about this whole thing. I mean, when the air samples came out, I know for a fact from a person that I have inside how she reacted when that came across the news.

GRACE: How did she react?

DICK: It didn`t bother her at all. You know, her comment was that a lot of people have had access to the trunk.

GRACE: You`re kidding?

DICK: And then in talking to Lee, Lee sits there and tells me, sitting across from me, how bad she acted, how upset she was. They almost had to call 911 because of her blood pressure, which is just complete BS.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

[steffaroob4]

web site is www.helpfindcaylee.com. Donations can be sent to Hopespring dr. You can also purchase t shirts and armbands and contact uncle lee or george. go to the how to help section.

What is up with the lower case letter i, (instead of I) it reminds me of the fake emails from her employers typed with no caps?

[Unperson1984]

My goodness, everyone is quite impatient. At this point I do believe law enforcement wants nothing more than murder in the first degree and they are willing to wait til the body is found. If I were in law enforcement and on this case, I would be furious with these folks and Casey in particular.

As I said earlier, I don’t see the Death Penalty in this case. If her little body is found there will be very little left to prove CoD. However, I take some comfort in knowing Casey can still be locked up for the rest of her life and in many ways that’s far worse then the DP. IMO

[rosejustrose]

don't know:shrug: all I'm ever going to send them is 23 cents

I thought that was you out there the other night:eek: I wouldn't throw good money after bad, IMO.

[dixie77]

This is a message board. We're allowed to give our opinions on her guilt and innocence here. I'm not a member of the LE, court or Casey's jury, so I have every right to my opinon and am not obligated to presume Casey innocent until proven guilty.

It's your opinion there's nothing to support her guilt. It's my opinion there's a lot that supports her guilt.
=======================

Very well stated and ITA

[Boxer]

Hmm, suprised it did not occur to them to add a new name to the kidnapper list, perhaps coworker Jenny Craig?


They've called Jenny, but the number has been disconnected.

[nc1948]

If that were true who was the dead body in the trunk?

Well George said it was not his grandchild. And Cindy said someone could have place a body in it at the impound and then removed it. I believe them, don't you.

[True2Blues]

Hmm, suprised it did not occur to them to add a new name to the kidnapper list, perhaps coworker Jenny Craig?

:lol:

The sad part, no one would be surprised.

[impartial]

These dates have bothered me also. We KNOW Caylee is a liar because she said her cell phone was on her desk at universal, and every other lie she has told. So the June 9 date is irrelevant.

I would like to suggest, however, that June 9 is one week before June 15th, Father's day. It's very easy to confuse those dates and maybe that's what happened with Casey?

I have a theory about the whole Universal thing.....


And the theory is ....

[FrankieBones1]

It looked like that striped shirt guy lives right next door to G didn't it? I wonder if he's the neighbor that heard the argument the weekend of the 15th? I thought it was interesting that the tall man with G had to 'remind' him he should thank his neighbors for being out there....
Hard to say, Lady. I suppose the neighbour that overheard the argument all those weeks ago will probably end up testifying.

On another note and to no one in particular...Bumping my sig line.
Careful out there. Most of you are great posters and I'd hate to see you get banned for taking the bait.

[trigger]

Morning tiny paw-prints - IIRC Robert Dick said he was there when Casey got the news about the air test in the trunk and she was very unaffected by the news. Didn't care - didn't worry.

Later, Lee spun a story about how upset Casey was when she heard it. So upset she couldn't breathe etc etc. (I forget how far he took it but it was extreme.)

Dick said it was a complete LIE.


Yeah and weeks late Casey and Lee were high five-ing it. What a joke.

If you want to see video of George saying caylee was not in daughters trunk go to http://www.wftv.com/video/17337816/index.html

[need2no]

Me thinks the family uses blood pressure as an excuse alot. Didn't Cindy tell a protester her blood pressure was going to go up and didn't she also use it to the media about George? jmo

Caylee:rose:


You're right...Cindy did mention her blood pressure and I believe she said the media was going to cause George to have a heart attack.

Reminds me of Cindy stating she has lost 29lbs...was it really necessary to make that statement, and frankly who cares...this is about Caylee, NOT Cindy, George, Lee or Casey.

[forensicnut]

These dates have bothered me also. We KNOW Caylee is a liar because she said her cell phone was on her desk at universal, and every other lie she has told. So the June 9 date is irrelevant.

I would like to suggest, however, that June 9 is one week before June 15th, Father's day. It's very easy to confuse those dates and maybe that's what happened with Casey?

I have a theory about the whole Universal thing.....

You can't do that. New rules and I just made them up.

What is your theory?

Spill.

Please.

[True2Blues]

Well George said it was not his grandchild. And Cindy said someone could have place a body in it at the impound and then removed it. I believe them, don't you.


Oh yes. I'm sure that tow yards are full of murderers playing musical bodies in the trunks of cars.

If someone dumped a body in a strange car, why bother to remove it?

[WillowInFlight]

Yeah and weeks late Casey and Lee were high five-ing it. What a joke.

If you want to see video of George saying caylee was not in daughters trunk go to http://www.wftv.com/video/17337816/index.html

Thanks for the link, and I for one would love to know what they were high five-ing about.:cuss:

[FrankieBones1]

Correct me if I am wrong, fellow posters, but didn't Dr. Kobolinski tell us that if the hair had the ring on it, it meant it could only come from a dead body? The ring is caused by decomposition.

[Unperson1984]

Here's from Nancy's transcript last night:

GRACE: Leonard Padilla, do you think that the brother, Lee, is changing his story? I noticed at the beginning, he was saying he had never heard of nanny Zenaida Gonzalez, but now he`s saying he`s known about her for about a year.

PADILLA: Well, he`s obviously changed his story, and Rob Dick can tell you how many times he`s changed his story since we first met him.

GRACE: Oh, good thought. What about it, Robert Dick?

ROBERT DICK, PROVIDED SECURITY FOR CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, he`s obviously changed. I mean, from the point of when he was there, you know, anything he could do to help us and telling us things, and down to towards the end there, where he was just flat lying. I mean, he was caught lying to our face.

GRACE: About what?

DICK: Well, for one thing, the attitude that Casey had about this whole thing. I mean, when the air samples came out, I know for a fact from a person that I have inside how she reacted when that came across the news.

GRACE: How did she react?

DICK: It didn`t bother her at all. You know, her comment was that a lot of people have had access to the trunk.

GRACE: You`re kidding?

DICK: And then in talking to Lee, Lee sits there and tells me, sitting across from me, how bad she acted, how upset she was. They almost had to call 911 because of her blood pressure, which is just complete BS.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

DICK: It didn`t bother her at all. You know, her comment was that a lot of people have had access to the trunk.

DICK: And then in talking to Lee, Lee sits there and tells me, sitting across from me, how bad she acted, how upset she was. They almost had to call 911 because of her blood pressure, which is just complete BS.


You know, I could see the first statement being true about Casey, and the second being true about Cindy. Heaven knows the THs and their guests are always getting all the "C" names confused.


:shrug:

[desmom]

I know LE is aware of all the incosistancies, and are just not addressing them in public, but wouldn't Casey and company know how many inconsistancies there are? I mean it is like they ignore the facts that have been proven and just move on with the lies.


IMO, it is http://unity2008.org/911/CTW_html_ea7da88.jpg syndrome.

[joolz]

Correct me if I am wrong, fellow posters, but didn't Dr. Kobolinski tell us that if the hair had the ring on it, it meant it could only come from a dead body? The ring is caused by decomposition.

That was my understanding too, Frankie. Sorry, no link.:)

[MyrDawn]

And the theory is ....

Ohhh, ohhh, let me! :::raising hand:::

The theory is, Casey's a liar!

[steffaroob4]

Is that with the June 7, 9th or 16th "last seen" date????

Which reminds me- as always, I go to bed with this tradegy. I got a suspicion.

Casey kept saying "30 days". Why was she or Cindy counting the days????

Well, maybe originally Caylee was kidnapped because Casey stole from drug dealers, and it was the drug dealer who told her she had 30 days to pay them back. This is why she never called police. The drug dealer give up. Kill Casey and return the body to Casey, who in turn puts it in her car around the 26th. George gets involved in the coverup.

I know this sounds looney, but the fact that everything in this case does....

ofcourse then, as I am tying this, where does the cloroform come into play????

I have never understood the date screw-ups, I thought that Cindy and George were on vaction the first week of June. That would have most lieky be the 2 times Tony was at the house. I find it hard to believe that you forget that the last time you saw you grandaughter, especialy since you took her to see your father that day for Father's Day, card, movies and pictures. LE is at your house asking questions, wouldn't you look at a darn calendar. GA & CA didn't chat about it, while LE was driving casey aroung that night?

None of this makes sense. I wonder what is in the taped interviews with GPs, like when were they looking under the palyhouse and the pavers.:shrug:

[impartial]

IMO, it is http://unity2008.org/911/CTW_html_ea7da88.jpg syndrome.



I hate using this icon, but just have to :lol:

[farrahrani]

If there was ANY factual evidence that that child's dead body had been in the trunk of that car, Casey would already be charged with the murder.
She isn't, therefore, it doesn't exist.
Stupidity isn't reason enough to falsely accuse any citizen of a capital crime.:no:



I did not in any part of my post accuse anyone of a capital crime. I said Cindy washed pants to get rid of the smell. The smell detectives said was decomp. She said was rotting pizza. Whatever you want to call it, she admitted she washed the pants. I never said washing pants was a capital crime, or that Casey did that. :no:

[barskin&co.]

Correct me if I am wrong, fellow posters, but didn't Dr. Kobolinski tell us that if the hair had the ring on it, it meant it could only come from a dead body? The ring is caused by decomposition.


Yes, indeed.

[Boxer]

Oh yes. I'm sure that tow yards are full of murderers playing musical bodies in the trunks of cars.

If someone dumped a body in a strange car, why bother to remove it?


there ya go, being all logical:mad:

[joolz]

My posing a differing opinion, harms no one. Yours, however is just one more example of the fanatical speculation that may eventually cause a conviction where little if any evidence supports it.


That's correct: differing opinions harm no one. But you seem to have the need to pass critical judgment on opinions that differ from yours. Why is that?

[commonguymd]

Correct me if I am wrong, fellow posters, but didn't Dr. Kobolinski tell us that if the hair had the ring on it, it meant it could only come from a dead body? The ring is caused by decomposition.

It may prove death but not manner of death.

[nc1948]

What is up with the lower case letter i, (instead of I) it reminds me of the fake emails from her employers typed with no caps?

Sorry, just a typo. I have many. Will try to do better. I type in all caps when not on forum but since it is against the rules here, I forget to hit cap for the I.

[MyrDawn]

My posing a differing opinion, harms no one. Yours, however is just one more example of the fanatical speculation that may eventually cause a conviction where little if any evidence supports it.

Fanatical speculation? What a nice thing to say...sheesh!

It's absolutely not speculation and not fanatical. I just don't believe the Body Farm and FBI were lying about the preliminary test results they made public.

[rosejustrose]

were you on the board in another life?:shrug:
moo

Hi nutter:seeya: Sure does sound familiar, IMO.

[?noanswer]

I would imagine the prosecution team has already started the laborious
task of working on a Power Point presentation of all the various stories and lies from Casey, as well as one for ALL the men in Casey's life. I hope the jury is allowed to take notes, it will be a challenge to keep up.....

This is going to be a looong trial. In addition to Casey's stories & lies, there are the grandparents and Lees. JMO

[trich]

Correct me if I am wrong, fellow posters, but didn't Dr. Kobolinski tell us that if the hair had the ring on it, it meant it could only come from a dead body? The ring is caused by decomposition.



I recall that as being correct
Bottom line if the hair had the ring on it it came from a dead body.

[FrankieBones1]

That was my understanding too, Frankie. Sorry, no link.:)

No worries, Miss Joolz. I don't ask for links from members that actually keep up to date with this case. I imagine I could look for it on Nancy's website.

[?noanswer]

I just sent George an email asking what T shirts they were selling, curious to know if the butterfly ones are included.



One can also request flyers using Lee's email account. JMO

[joolz]

My theory is that a "call girl" service was run out of Universal. JMO. You guys can take it and run with it or not. Something is amiss at universal, don't know what it is though.


You really think a call girl service was run out of the studio amusement park?:confused:

What is amiss at universal? They fired Casey, she lied and said she was still employed and then led LE on a truly bizarre wild goose chase. How does that make anything amiss there?

[Boxer]

That's correct: differing opinions harm no one. But you seem to have the need to pass critical judgment on opinions that differ from yours. Why is that?


and correct the grammar of really nice posters

[GrannyB]

My posing a differing opinion, harms no one. Yours, however is just one more example of the fanatical speculation that may eventually cause a conviction where little if any evidence supports it.


I would imagine the Anthony's would love it if we quit wondering what happened to Caylee. However that's not going to happen. Right now I am leaning towards Cindy is the one who harmed Caylee. Cindy wrote the script (bad as it is) and before it is all over Cindy will be in jail along with the rest of the Anthony's. And I'm sure LE has enough evidence for murder they are just waiting to get the evidence so they can arrest the correct person.

[rosejustrose]

I would bet that before it's all over, there will be an investigation into the A's finances by someone. If that isn't already being done....:read:

Based on the prosecutor's very pointed questions about finances to Cindy during the bond hearing, I'd be willing to bet they are being scrutinized as I type this. JMO.

[steffaroob4]

I use June 16, giving the Anthonys the benefit of the doubt. We know Caylee was with her GGF on June 15.
I think she died the night of the 15th, I lost any hope of believing anything anyone in that family says.

[need2no]

IT IS NOT SIMPLY ABOUT CAYLEE. We will never find that child if no one cooperates.

Dunnie I am well aware of how the other family members fit into this whole mess. Point being my sympathy and concern is for Caylee....not the others who can care for themselves.

[barskin&co.]

My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that when the hair follicle dies, it causes the black ring. the hair follicle lives, when it dies, it causes the black ring. I hope I'm making sense.

When a person dies, the process of decomposition causes the dark ring.

[rosejustrose]

Hmm, suprised it did not occur to them to add a new name to the kidnapper list, perhaps coworker Jenny Craig?

OMG, too funny ~ Jenny Craig:lol:

[Snoopy50]

My cousin, Ashley, had an appendectomy in Houston this past Sunday (even with all of the other stuff going on)...she is back in the hospital...running a fever and has turned yellow. I don't know what is wrong and am waiting for more information. Her mother is with her.

:rose:

Sorry for the O/T I am just really scared. I have a really small family as it is.

Have I missed anything today? No late night riots or arrests obviously?

Ashley is in my prayers for a speedy and full recovery, please keep us updated on her progress.:rose:

[joolz]

and correct the grammar of really nice posters


:D Save me from the grammar police!

[nutterbutter]

They've called Jenny, but the number has been disconnected.

:biggrin: funny

[5boxersmom]

We hear about the families weight loss, blood pressure, and lack of sleep, but not once has the family talked to the kidnapper on tv. Told Caylee they love her. If you are watching this Caylee we love you, miss you, we are looking for you.

Not once did Casey ask in her phone calls from jail is there any news on Caylee? LE never put out a description of Zanny or a car. :shrug:

This family knows. Caylee was not kidnapped.

Caylee:rose:

[Cury-us Coyote]

MyFox 35 Video
DNA expert talks about the evidence
(Wecht)
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7473949&version=1&locale=EN-US

[FrankieBones1]

It may prove death but not manner of death.

Thanks, Commonguy. I'm still trying to find Dr. Kobolinski's words on the transcripts. In the meantime, I found this on Nancy's site.

The father of tot mom Casey Anthony's ex-boyfriend speaks out! A primetime exclusive interview on Nancy Grace, monday 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

[commonguymd]

Thanks, Commonguy. I'm still trying to find Dr. Kobolinski's words on the transcripts. In the meantime, I found this on Nancy's site.

The father of tot mom Casey Anthony's ex-boyfriend speaks out! A primetime exclusive interview on Nancy Grace, monday 8 & 10 ET on Headline News.

Most excellent, thanks for the update.

[trigger]

Ok, then whose body was in the trunk?:shrug:

:shrug: Cindy says "Ask the security at the Tow Yard"

[?noanswer]

I remember seeing 23 cents somewhere, but cannot recall where. What is it in reference too?

When the Anthony's claimed the protestors were throwing rocks at their windows, LE did a search and found 1 dime, 2 nickels, and 3 pennies (.23). Don't think they found any rocks. JMO

[True2Blues]

Correct me if I am wrong, fellow posters, but didn't Dr. Kobolinski tell us that if the hair had the ring on it, it meant it could only come from a dead body? The ring is caused by decomposition.

That is what I recall. The ring means the hair came from a dead body. Was it something to do with a lack of oxygen?

[Boxer]

We hear about the families weight loss, blood pressure, and lack of sleep, but not once has the family talked to the kidnapper on tv. Told Caylee they love her. If you are watching this Caylee we love you, miss you, we are looking for you.

Not once did Casey ask in her phone calls from jail is there any news on Caylee? LE never put out a description of Zanny or a car. :shrug:

This family knows. Caylee was not kidnapped.

Caylee:rose:

everyone knows Cindy drinks water when she's not eating MOO:D

[steffaroob4]

with all the time on their hands, could they at least update the website:

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/contact

It still says "I am almost 3 years old".

After all, they had time to add this:

Available supplies and the suggested donation amount per item:

T-Shirt (sizes S to XL) - $10
Wristband - $5

A small number of fliers can be included with your supplies, if requested.

They don't really care about Caylee do they? MOO

:(


That is a picture someone took the time to make, with beveled text at the top. I can't believe that someone has done that, why aren't they changing her age to 3, that is strange.

[Snoopy50]

:shrug: Cindy says "Ask the security at the Tow Yard"

Oh right!!!! Silly mehammer

[commonguymd]

Remember Laci's mom - she said she curled up on the floor crying night after night. She refused to use a blanket because she knew her daughter was out there in the cold. If you haven't already bought her book, it's a very good read and all proceeds go to the sheriff's department and a nonprofit agency that provides search dogs in missing persons' cases.

The Rescue Fund has raised $130,000 for grants in five states since 2005.

Proceeds from Rocha's book, "For Laci; A Mother's Story of Love, Loss, and Justice," went to start the organization.

So take that Cindy - and put it where the sun don't shine. What are you doing to help find Caylee? Anything? Do you need a new hammer yet?

I better back away - I'm becoming too angry with the A's.....



Green does funny things to unscrupulous people. They get a hint of green in the eyes and they succumb to the dark side of life. Ask a politician.

[freesia2wate]

I always found Casey's rememberence of dates odd. My daughter's been missing for 31 days When asked about her phone being lost by the investigator. Her reply was "nine days ago". WHO knows this kind of information. Wouldn't you say about a week ago? It all sounds so contrived. Premeditated. JMO
edited for spelling....

[trich]

This is going to be a looong trial. In addition to Casey's stories & lies, there are the grandparents and Lees. JMO


And Casey will not take the stand in her own defense I am sure.
If she did she has so many lies and stories to explain.

The prosescution will present so many witnesses to the stories and lies she has told that she will slowly but surely go down big time.
Not to mention the pictures, videos, cell phone records etc.
then there is the forensics and hopefully lots and lots more evidence.
I can't imagine what Baez is going to use as a defense .
Only thng I can see is trying to attack the charactor of the witnesses.
Casey is pathalogical but not insane, lst I heard pathalogical is not a defense or excuse.
How can he claim she did not steal the money either when they have her signature and she is on video cashing the stolen checks.
Now I hope they call Geroge, Lee and Cindy to testify before the Grand Jury....I would love to see them try to tell their lies there.

[5boxersmom]

Remember Laci's mom - she said she curled up on the floor crying night after night. She refused to use a blanket because she knew her daughter was out there in the cold. If you haven't already bought her book, it's a very good read and all proceeds go to the sheriff's department and a nonprofit agency that provides search dogs in missing persons' cases.

The Rescue Fund has raised $130,000 for grants in five states since 2005.

Proceeds from Rocha's book, "For Laci; A Mother's Story of Love, Loss, and Justice," went to start the organization.

So take that Cindy - and put it where the sun don't shine. What are you doing to help find Caylee? Anything? Do you need a new hammer yet?

I better back away - I'm becoming too angry with the A's.....


Yep, I read the book. One classy lady.

Caylee:rose::rose:

[rosejustrose]

As I said earlier, I don’t see the Death Penalty in this case. If her little body is found there will be very little left to prove CoD. However, I take some comfort in knowing Casey can still be locked up for the rest of her life and in many ways that’s far worse then the DP. IMO

ITA about the DP and her fate of a life behind bars. Hopefully, she took some care in disposing of Caylee's body and there may be evidence of COD, bones fractures, etc. JMHO.

[GrannyB]

That is a picture someone took the time to make, with beveled text at the top. I can't believe that someone has done that, why aren't they changing her age to 3, that is strange.


Probably because they know is will always be almost 3. They make me sick.

[frances1]

No. I am not YOUR medical examiner. In fact, I am not anybody's medical examiner. I am merely "me".:rolleyes:


Hasn't anyone else figured out this is Daddy's Girl? Put her on your ignore, for your own mental health.

[Joan Weiss]

My cousin, Ashley, had an appendectomy in Houston this past Sunday (even with all of the other stuff going on)...she is back in the hospital...running a fever and has turned yellow. I don't know what is wrong and am waiting for more information. Her mother is with her.

:rose:

Sorry for the O/T I am just really scared. I have a really small family as it is.

Have I missed anything today? No late night riots or arrests obviously?Sounds like Hepatitis.
Prayers for you and yours. :rose:

[FrankieBones1]

That is what I recall. The ring means the hair came from a dead body. Was it something to do with a lack of oxygen?

Sounds right to me. I'd still like to find the transcript, though. I don't like when posters put out wrong info all the time and then people take it for fact. I've seen it happen in so many trials and cases we read about here.

Back soon. Maybe if I google Kobolinski, it'll turn up.

[barskin&co.]

I think she died the night of the 15th, I lost any hope of believing anything anyone in that family says.

I understand. Many people agree with you. I certainly do not know if I can believe George's statement that he say Casey leave with Caylee to "go to work like a normal day" at 12:50 pm on June 16. I think that Caylee was killed on the 16th, but I surely cannot rule out the 15th.
I have decided to start the counting as if Caylee was seen on the 16, and give the Anthony’s the benefit of the doubt, which, I admit, might be more than they deserve.

[WillowInFlight]

One can also request flyers using Lee's email account. JMO

I'm not sure

[Unperson1984]

I would imagine the Anthony's would love it if we quit wondering what happened to Caylee. However that's not going to happen. Right now I am leaning towards Cindy is the one who harmed Caylee. Cindy wrote the script (bad as it is) and before it is all over Cindy will be in jail along with the rest of the Anthony's. And I'm sure LE has enough evidence for murder they are just waiting to get the evidence so they can arrest the correct person.

I don't see Casey sitting in jail to protect anyone, certainly not Cindy.

The Anthony's don't seem to have any friends and they could have simply told neighbors that Casey and Caylee moved out. So why even involved LE in covering up Caylee's death? Let alone mentioning a smell in the car.

:shrug:

[trich]

I always found Casey's rememberence of dates odd. My daughter's been missing for 31 days When asked about her phone being lost by the investigator. Her reply was "nine days ago". WHO knows this kind of information. Wouldn't you say about a week ago? It all sounds so contrived. Premediated. JMO

The shrinks all agree that the attention to detail in her statements signify that they are lies.
By mentioning the detaisl she is thinking that she will be believed when in truth it is just the opposite.

[barskin&co.]

Hasn't anyone else figured out this is Daddy's Girl? Put her on your ignore, for your own mental health.

Good idea. :patriot: Done.

[Snoopy50]

Hasn't anyone else figured out this is Daddy's Girl? Put her on your ignore, for your own mental health.

I did, but I do not put anyone on ignore...I just ignore them.;)

[Acorn]

We hear about the families weight loss, blood pressure, and lack of sleep, but not once has the family talked to the kidnapper on tv. Told Caylee they love her.
...

Caylee:rose:

Pitiful stuff, ain't it?

They're more interested in defending Frankenstein's monster with shoving, throwing & trashing people's belongings, deploying HOA thugs, bats and hammers.

They're not concerned about Caylee at all. Not one iota.

[Boxer]

frances1, she is only her or so she says:seeya: but the proof is in the fancy words of no substance

[trigger]

We hear about the families weight loss, blood pressure, and lack of sleep, but not once has the family talked to the kidnapper on tv. Told Caylee they love her. If you are watching this Caylee we love you, miss you, we are looking for you.

Not once did Casey ask in her phone calls from jail is there any news on Caylee? LE never put out a description of Zanny or a car. :shrug:

This family knows. Caylee was not kidnapped.

Caylee:rose:


Yeah Good Point.

[rosejustrose]

Correct me if I am wrong, fellow posters, but didn't Dr. Kobolinski tell us that if the hair had the ring on it, it meant it could only come from a dead body? The ring is caused by decomposition.

Hi Frankie:seeya: Yeppers, that is what I remember, also.

BTW, thanks for the warning. I've seen the bait but I don't feel like fishing today!

[need2no]

we hear about the families weight loss, blood pressure, and lack of sleep, but not once has the family talked to the kidnapper on tv. Told caylee they love her. If you are watching this caylee we love you, miss you, we are looking for you.

Not once did casey ask in her phone calls from jail is there any news on caylee? Le never put out a description of zanny or a car. :shrug:

This family knows. Caylee was not kidnapped.

Caylee:rose:


absolutely!

[joolz]

I guess it comes from my penchant for living my life seeing both sides of a coin. Any time that I see a horde of individuals trumpeting the same speculation and see it being moved along by the tabloid media, I see a need for a closer look.
Life would be very boring should we all feel the need to just "go along, to get along".
MOO
;)


Well there you go again, assuming there is a trumpeting horde paying attention to the tabs. That's a pretty global generalization, and if you actually read through the threads you might notice that posters here have very different opinions about what really happened in this case. But I guess making those assumptions and then reacting to your own assumptions is what keeps your life from being boring. :shrug:

[dixielover]

What's this?? Another individual capable of singular thought??
I'll bet MY popularity on this board will soon surpass that of your own.
;)


I had a lawyer friend from the beginning that says this could possible be a scam that went bad. He also says that if this is true that Casey would end up in jail for a very long time and so would anyone who went along with it. Even though the public would be happy to see Caylee, they would also want to see Casey and her family in prison. Of course, all of us would like to see Caylee alive. I can't imagine though who would be stupid enough to continue this scam for this long knowing what the outcome would be. jmo

[MyrDawn]

That is a picture someone took the time to make, with beveled text at the top. I can't believe that someone has done that, why aren't they changing her age to 3, that is strange.

Maybe they aren't changing her age to 3 because people don't get older after death and they know it.

[GrannyB]

I don't see Casey sitting in jail to protect anyone, certainly not Cindy.

The Anthony's don't seem to have any friends and they could have simply told neighbors that Casey and Caylee moved out. So why even involved LE in covering up Caylee's death? Let alone mentioning a smell in the car.

:shrug:

I can see her sitting there. She's been under Cindy's control since birth. Kinda like abused children being taken away by CPS for their safety and the children screaming and crying for the abuser. Their existance depends on the abuser. It's all they know. Just for the record more facts and I will change my mind. Casey just isn't smart enough to have pulled this off. Cindy is.

[need2no]

The shrinks all agree that the attention to detail in her statements signify that they are lies.
By mentioning the detaisl she is thinking that she will be believed when in truth it is just the opposite.

Same thing applies with George about the gas cans, and Cindy about the shovel....too many details offered up.

[trigger]

Thanks for the link, and I for one would love to know what they were high five-ing about.:cuss:


Me too. :shrug:

[joolz]

Hasn't anyone else figured out this is Daddy's Girl? Put her on your ignore, for your own mental health.

:seeya:Yup, did figure it out but couldn't resist. And now I will follow your advice and stick to the topic, TYVM. ;)

[steffaroob4]

Yep, dropped her off on June 9 and has not seen her since.

Cindy and Caylee were at the nursing home on June 15.

George saw Casey and Caylee on June 16.

I think it is rather strange a mother would not remember what day her daughter was "kidnapped".

jmo


I think she does, I think that is where the 31 days comes from. That is why I think Caylee died on the 15th of June.

[barskin&co.]

I can see her sitting there. She's been under Cindy's control since birth. Kinda like abused children being taken away by CPS for their safety and the children screaming and crying for the abuser. Their existance depends on the abuser. It's all they know. Just for the record more facts and I will change my mind. Casey just isn't smart enough to have pulled this off. Cindy is.

Pulled what off?

[Boxer]

I can see her sitting there. She's been under Cindy's control since birth. Kinda like abused children being taken away by CPS for their safety and the children screaming and crying for the abuser. Their existance depends on the abuser. It's all they know. Just for the record more facts and I will change my mind. Casey just isn't smart enough to have pulled this off. Cindy is.

I think you make some very valid points! What do they call that? Stockholm Syndrome?

[rosejustrose]

You really think a call girl service was run out of the studio amusement park?:confused:

What is amiss at universal? They fired Casey, she lied and said she was still employed and then led LE on a truly bizarre wild goose chase. How does that make anything amiss there?

I wonder why she was fired? I'm sure it'll all come out at trial, if there is a trial. I'm thinking plea deal here. And, Jose needs to go, he is waaaaay in over his head, IMO.

[need2no]

Maybe they aren't changing her age to 3 because people don't get older after death and they know it.


So true, and soooo sad.

[Acorn]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Functional

[commonguymd]

Pulled what off?

I don't see Cindy as being all the smart.

[rosejustrose]

My cousin, Ashley, had an appendectomy in Houston this past Sunday (even with all of the other stuff going on)...she is back in the hospital...running a fever and has turned yellow. I don't know what is wrong and am waiting for more information. Her mother is with her.

:rose:

Sorry for the O/T I am just really scared. I have a really small family as it is.

Have I missed anything today? No late night riots or arrests obviously?

Prayers for Ashley, get well dear:rose:

And for you, Little Bitty, :rose:

[impartial]

MyFox 35 Video
DNA expert talks about the evidence
(Wecht)
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7473949&version=1&locale=EN-US


Thanks Cury-us :seeya:

[desmom]

This does not sound looney to me.

Casey has been out of work for 2 years ... and yet her theft spree appears to be around the time that Caylee goes missing. Wiping out Amy's entire account seem more like an act of desparation than mere taking some money.

I think Casey got herself in some deep doo doo, with the wrong people. Hence her phone call to Jesse on the 16th of June. And then a mere 8 days later, Jesse quits the force. I'm not saying Jesse did anything to Caylee, but more that Casey reached out to Jesse for help of some kind.

There are too many coincidences around the missing of Caylee. Jesse quits the force, Dante (who lives at Sawgrass) quits a new job and moves to an unknown destination and does not to our knowledge respond to LE's note on his door to contact them.

Trying on some theories here ... drugs and drug people ... Casey dropped out of her circle of friends when she hooked up with TonE; and went on a theft spree.

Something to consider.

IMO

I think Casey ripping people off has been going on for a long time. Mommy and Daddy were always there to clean up her messes. I don't think Mommy and Daddy are going to be able to clean up this mess.

I have considered Casey was in some type of deep doo doo scenarios, but the alleged argument Father's Day weekend between Casey and Cindy, her partying, clean and cooking for Tony, forged check cashing at Target, Winn Dixie and BOA keep getting in the way. She never behaved like a mother who had her baby kidnapped.

jmo

[rosejustrose]

I would imagine the Anthony's would love it if we quit wondering what happened to Caylee. However that's not going to happen. Right now I am leaning towards Cindy is the one who harmed Caylee. Cindy wrote the script (bad as it is) and before it is all over Cindy will be in jail along with the rest of the Anthony's. And I'm sure LE has enough evidence for murder they are just waiting to get the evidence so they can arrest the correct person.


I don't agree that Cindy harmed Caylee and wrote the script. IMO, they all know Casey is a nut case. They could never trust her to take on the responsibility of covering for someone else. She's way too weak in the mind. IMO.

[Pebbles]

I posted the following this morning. My husband and I both collect pensions, we are considered middle class, and still have to watch our budget and how we spend our money.


I find myself wondering about where the Anthonys are getting the money just to take care of their normal everyday expenses, never mind the attorneys, bodyguards, security cameras, etc.

Cindy isn't working, they said George was working, but he always seems to be around the house, so I can't understand what he is doing. Even if George was working, how is it possible just to live on what he is earning?

How do the Attorneys pay their mortgage, electricity, internet connection, gas for Casey's trips to JB, etc. Where is the money coming from? Don't people have a right to know if they are donating money to find Caylee, where is that money.

Does this mean that "Crime Does Pay"?


Caylee aren't you more important than bodyguards, security cameras, high priced attorneys? None of these things are telling us where you are. Caylee you are the one that needs justice right now, not your mother, grandmother, grandfather or uncle. Why are their needs more important than telling LE the truth and letting you be found. Defense attorneys will take care of your family, why doesn't your family take care of YOU!

[GrannyB]

Pulled what off?


Harming Caylee or giving her away and Caylee not being found yet. Right now I see nothing that says Casey could plan this herself. If an accident happened she still couldn't handle it. She'd need mommie.

I guess the bottom line for me right now is I don't see proof of who did it. I do believe there is proof it was done. I want justice for Caylee.

[martha]

Ok, then whose body was in the trunk?:shrug: Thats what I want to know is anyone elce missing? jmho:rose:

[barskin&co.]

Anyone who puts anyone on ignore has a closed mind. JMO.

I currently have 13 people on ignore, including some added today. I consider it wise, and I recommend it.

[rosejustrose]

We hear about the families weight loss, blood pressure, and lack of sleep, but not once has the family talked to the kidnapper on tv. Told Caylee they love her. If you are watching this Caylee we love you, miss you, we are looking for you.

Not once did Casey ask in her phone calls from jail is there any news on Caylee? LE never put out a description of Zanny or a car. :shrug:

This family knows. Caylee was not kidnapped.

Caylee:rose:


That's always bothered me. Why didn't LE send in a artist to get a description of Zanny the Nanny? Why didn't Caylee, who supposedly knew this woman for 4 years, give a detail description of her. Because, IMO, Zanny doesn't exist. If this obvious detail escapes the Anthony family then I have lost all hope that their collective IQ would enable them to find their way out of a brown paper bag. JMO.

[GrannyB]

I don't see Cindy as being all the smart.

I didn't mean to say Cindy was smart. Cindy is in control of that family. And not in a good way. Listen to her. She lies constantly.

[True2Blues]

That is a picture someone took the time to make, with beveled text at the top. I can't believe that someone has done that, why aren't they changing her age to 3, that is strange.

Because they know she will never be three. She was dead before her third Birthday, the poor child.

[impartial]

Thats what I want to know is anyone elce missing? jmho:rose:


Zanny ... imaginary or real, they both seem to be missing.

IMO

[?noanswer]

everyone knows Cindy drinks water when she's not eating MOO:D

And George is out on the driveway, giving it away. What's a hungry person to do? JMO

[dixielover]

The terminology in the post has a familiar ring to it though ... don't you think? :read:

absolutely

[True2Blues]

I didn't mean to say Cindy was smart. Cindy is in control of that family. And not in a good way. Listen to her. She lies constantly.

Lying seems to be the mainstay of speech in that family.

[barskin&co.]

Harming Caylee or giving her away and Caylee not being found yet. Right now I see nothing that says Casey could plan this herself. If an accident happened she still couldn't handle it. She'd need mommie.

I guess the bottom line for me right now is I don't see proof of who did it. I do believe there is proof it was done. I want justice for Caylee.

Oh, she most certainly could and can handle it. She had herself a ball. She partied haerty for a month, without a care. She can sit down with 3 investigators and lie her head off without breaking a sweat. Cindy is the one who can't stop flying off the handle. Casey is the one who has been giving the orders in this family since this crisis began.

[impartial]

That's always bothered me. Why didn't LE send in a artist to get a description of Zanny the Nanny? Why didn't Caylee, who supposedly knew this woman for 4 years, give a detail description of her. Because, IMO, Zanny doesn't exist. If this obvious detail escapes the Anthony family then I have lost all hope that their collective IQ would enable them to find their way out of a brown paper bag. JMO.


I read somewhere that there was a composite drawing of Zenaida, and LE didn't publish it ... I think it was on this board, but it's been a long time ... IIRC, it was in a news article.

IMO

[steffaroob4]

Yes, indeed.


Did you hear that the Hickman case is waiting on some type of test (DNA, I think) that takes 6 months to get the results?
The body farm only recieved their samples on August 10th, I wonder if some of their tests take longer. I have heard some tests take 6 weeks, too, so I am wondering if they are still waiting for final test results of the samples they have.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Estimating The Postmortem Interval In Forensic Cases Through The Analysis Of Postmortem Deterioration Of Human Hair
(LSU Thesis May 2005 - 38 pages)
http://etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-01242005-145140/unrestricted/Collier_thesis.pdf

[martha]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Functional
What or they doing with yellow tape across the street? don;t understand that. jmho:rose:

[GrannyB]

Thats what I want to know is anyone elce missing? jmho:rose:


Maybe Zannie the Nannie?:)

[rosejustrose]

Remember Laci's mom - she said she curled up on the floor crying night after night. She refused to use a blanket because she knew her daughter was out there in the cold. If you haven't already bought her book, it's a very good read and all proceeds go to the sheriff's department and a nonprofit agency that provides search dogs in missing persons' cases.

The Rescue Fund has raised $130,000 for grants in five states since 2005.

Proceeds from Rocha's book, "For Laci; A Mother's Story of Love, Loss, and Justice," went to start the organization.

So take that Cindy - and put it where the sun don't shine. What are you doing to help find Caylee? Anything? Do you need a new hammer yet?

I better back away - I'm becoming too angry with the A's.....

Nevermind Cindy. What about Casey - Caylee's mom? :cuss:

[?noanswer]

And Casey will not take the stand in her own defense I am sure.
If she did she has so many lies and stories to explain.

The prosescution will present so many witnesses to the stories and lies she has told that she will slowly but surely go down big time.
Not to mention the pictures, videos, cell phone records etc.
then there is the forensics and hopefully lots and lots more evidence.
I can't imagine what Baez is going to use as a defense .
Only thng I can see is trying to attack the charactor of the witnesses.
Casey is pathalogical but not insane, lst I heard pathalogical is not a defense or excuse.
How can he claim she did not steal the money either when they have her signature and she is on video cashing the stolen checks.
Now I hope they call Geroge, Lee and Cindy to testify before the Grand Jury....I would love to see them try to tell their lies there.

He'll try to attack LE and the forensic evidence. All I can say to him is "good luck". JMO

[steffaroob4]

Sorry, just a typo. I have many. Will try to do better. I type in all caps when not on forum but since it is against the rules here, I forget to hit cap for the I.


Not you, lol. The text on the findcasey site.

[WillowInFlight]

I personally don't like the butterfly t-shirts. They say "fly home Caylee". To me that insinuates that she's already in heaven, in the sky, with the butterflies.

Whenever I see one, I get so sad. Maybe there's another meaning, but children don't fly like Peter Pan.

I guess "fly home baby" doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies. What do you think?

I'm off - it's 11:30 and I've yet to do a single chore. See ya tonight!

:seeya:

ITA which is why I was curious to see if that one was for family members only.