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mosey2
09-20-2008, 12:15 AM
around the mouth & the nose too. you should see a closer up shot. maybe someone can put one up.
Did you know dogs can give birth to a litter of puppies, and the litter-mates can have different fathers?


surprisingly, not so off topic!

concernedmom
09-20-2008, 12:17 AM
yep for real. if he isnt caylee's father then he's probably related to her some how. JMO

It would be horrible to find out now your Caylee's father and her not be found alive.
If a miracle happens and she is found alive it would be good to know because Casey isnt a fit mother. I wouldnt want her watching my dog.

mosey2
09-20-2008, 12:17 AM
I think we're all drunk, all of us

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 12:17 AM
Me too I'd give anything to be wrong. Anything. I brought up Mary Beth Smith last night; and how of us learned a huge lesson following that case. But in light of everything that's happened, charges are coming. I think that for some reason, Casey has a get out of jail free card. I'm still trying to figure out exactly why that is. Maybe a case of LaFave, too pretty to go to jail syndrome. What is so sad, is that she is really an ugly person on the inside. It is true, all the profiling that's coming out about her personality. Her voice, her speech patterns which I brought up long ago, all are great indications that she is totally unplugged. Its that moment she turns around in the court room though. Want to see a monster? Just look at that video where she grins really big in the court room. She's as off balance as my wash machine when it's full of throw rugs.

It doesnt take rocket science or many shrinks to point out all the signs of her pathology. What's sad is seeing where it came from. I konw what it's like to lash out in pain, Im sure all of you do. You're adults, you know what it's like to hurt and be hurt. What the A's have done, to tarnish Caylee's memory like they have is really an abomination to me. Truly it is. All we can hope for is that Casey tracked down the real father and turned her over. It's all we can hope for; because at this point Caylee is presumed dead by most experts. Why grief counseling, and mental health experts have not been brought in at the point, is also very telling.

Dots



jeny. Is there any way you can tone down the boldness of the font you use? I don't mind a litle bold or italic etc but that made my eyes crosseyed more than usual. sorry

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 12:20 AM
Jenny, please ..
Too bold .. :cool:


Thank you . I tried to be nice about it but that time it really did hurt my eyes.

mosey2
09-20-2008, 12:22 AM
I know he could not "house " her on base...but I once had a group of guy friends who were military and who shared a place so they had somewhere to go and to take girls to when on leave/pass ( besides mom and dads). They shared the expense so it wouldn't cost much. I think about 6 guys split the expenses on one place.
I thought maybe Mark COULD have done something like that, but I didn't know if it was common enough a practice to be likely.
JMO.
My husband was career army for awhile. Special Forces. If your CO found ourt about a party house off base, they would impose early curfew, and have the partiers report to base at 8:00 every night. They cant control what goes on off base, but they can sure limit the hours of tom-foolery. Party-poopers!:biggrin:

barskin&co.
09-20-2008, 12:22 AM
I think that her Dna is very important in this case. Determining who her father is; may be key. MDNA could be used but we all know Casey was in the Car, it was Cindy's car, Lees car. It would help to have his DNA, Im not afraid to discuss it. I wonder if Casey is shaking in her ugly boots yet?
Tick Tock.

Dots

Butm they have Caylee's DNA to compare any samples with. I disagree, Dots. I don't think LE is concerned with finding the father.

nana6
09-20-2008, 12:22 AM
I hate to say it but that font is like hot pitchforks in the eyes.

Hi Scooby, I would agree with you on the font about 5 years ago but I am going to be 60 in Nov. and I love it!!!!!!!!!!! Boy, canI ever see it!!:)

flipflop
09-20-2008, 12:22 AM
migraine font


no kidding. ouch

concernedmom
09-20-2008, 12:22 AM
jeny. Is there any way you can tone down the boldness of the font you use? I don't mind a litle bold or italic etc but that made my eyes crosseyed more than usual. sorry

Jenny I agree. I enjoy your posts and your enthusiasm about this case but i cant read it. Its blurry. and I havent had anything to drink unlike some of these other people.:biggrin:

beetlebrow
09-20-2008, 12:22 AM
Who told you that?
:shrug:

Uh.....you did last night.....pretty fast there with the delete key...but I saw it.......but I'm sure you already know about going off topic...

Actually I agree with you about the comparison

I can't believe I just said I agree with you....:tongue:

Acorn
09-20-2008, 12:23 AM
Please, no bold especially on the already fat fonts.

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barskin&co.
09-20-2008, 12:23 AM
Hate breeds hate. ;)

Law enforcement went to speak with Mark Hawkins because of Casey calling him.
As a matter of fact, Mark Hawkins contacted the police because of Casey's calls and text messages.

OneUp
09-20-2008, 12:23 AM
I know that I have chosen NOT to post things on the board that were TOLD to me during my visit in Florida for a few reasons and being banned because i don't have proof and a link is ONE of those reasons. So IF Daddy'sGirl has special info to make bold claims as in his last post then there should be a link to prrof to back it up or at least an IMo to show it's ONLY an OPINION NOT Fact. In my opinion of course.TY Rebel, I thought something like that came up on the MY forum and caused a big brouhaha. I'd hate to see anyone banned from here for making unfounded claims of inside info.
But I really can't see anyone from "that" group giving up any viable information anyway...I'd think they would mostly lurk and loook for better theories than thers. So they could upgrade to something more believeable!
JMO.

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:23 AM
Wouldn't it be better if there was less of that font, rather than more. Maybe we can stop re-posting it.
:chicken:

well, your's would have been one less, now wouldn't it? Mine too. Guess we all were posting.....and maybe pretty close together, huh?

Rayosunshine
09-20-2008, 12:24 AM
Thank you so much for an honest answer, Isabelle. I appreciate it. I wish you were right about Caylee being alive. Oh how I wish it were true... I was just trying to make sense of the opinions that Caylee is alive because as much as I have tried to piece the puzzle together in such a way that makes it possible for Caylee to be found alive.. It has been a fruitless effort.

I applaud you for keeping up hope. My father and mother always told me to always have hope until you know without a doubt there is none. I wish I could utilize that advice when it comes to this case, but it seems impossible, IMO.. at least for myself.

but thanks for kindly answering my question and explaining.

And, thank you for such a nice reply.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

concernedmom
09-20-2008, 12:24 AM
Wouldn't it be better if there was less of that font, rather than more. Maybe we can stop re-posting it.
:chicken:

You do have a valid point.:D

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 12:25 AM
Hate breeds hate. ;)

Law enforcement went to speak with Mark Hawkins because of Casey calling him.

It's obvious t MOST why LE went to talk to Mark Hawkins. If others don't understand then they never will. IMO

BTW Are ya blinded by the font yet? lol I am. I seriously had to switch glasses and change lighting in my room lol wow

day2day
09-20-2008, 12:25 AM
Wouldn't it be better if there was less of that font, rather than more. Maybe we can stop re-posting it.
:chicken:

:eek: that is BRIGHT..i am blind!

OneUp
09-20-2008, 12:26 AM
J.P. Chatt's sworn statement is not 'missing.'

Law enforcement knows exactly where it is. :)Good point LS..didn't we hear something earlier this week about LDTests as well?

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 12:27 AM
well, your's would have been one less, now wouldn't it? Mine too. Guess we all were posting.....and maybe pretty close together, huh?

Yes and yes and yes. wow I'm trying to regain my normally poor vision . lol

johnielee333
09-20-2008, 12:28 AM
It would be horrible to find out now your Caylee's father and her not be found alive.
If a miracle happens and she is found alive it would be good to know because Casey isnt a fit mother. I wouldnt want her watching my dog.


yep i agree with ya.

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:28 AM
Yes and yes and yes. wow I'm trying to regain my normally poor vision . lol

plenty of glasses over here. whatever ya need up to bifocals. That's as far as I go.

mosey2
09-20-2008, 12:29 AM
TY Rebel, I thought something like that came up on the MY forum and caused a big brouhaha. I'd hate to see anyone banned from here for making unfounded claims of inside info.
But I really can't see anyone from "that" group giving up any viable information anyway...I'd think they would mostly lurk and loook for better theories than thers. So they could upgrade to something more believeable!
JMO.
the thing is "that group" changes theories as often as I change my underpants--about every 6 days.
First Morales, then Tony, then Jesse, now the Marine

Fickle? or a man-hater?

johnielee333
09-20-2008, 12:29 AM
I think we're all drunk, all of us

i wish ! :biggrin: :beer:

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 12:29 AM
Trust Fund? Basically states here there presently is None.

http://www.mixedmartialartscentral.org/

A gentlemen inquiring into the validity and fraudent use by the Anthonys
Interesting. Start at the beginning where Lee advised people to sent money directly to his paypal account, Oh MyWow, just wow! And Lee was only too happy to accept monies. Wow, just wow!

Nejame is really a blowout.

:cuss:

Acorn
09-20-2008, 12:30 AM
plenty of glasses over here. whatever ya need up to bifocals. That's as far as I go.

I have trifocals and I couldn't make that out on high beam, middle beam or low beam :cool:

Vibo
09-20-2008, 12:32 AM
This is my first "night" on the boards, so glad to see so many of the "day" people on here.....and for a Friday night, aren't you a dedicated bunch. Love to Caylee and justice for Casey! :seeya:

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:32 AM
Considering the fact that Casey told the Tattoo employee that Caylee's father was a Military man, coupled with the fact that Casey was planning a trip to see Hawkins the Marine, and then add in a healthy dose of rampant text and phone calls to Hawkins via Casey - THAT is why LE is in California with Hawkins.

I'm very interested in the page from the El Petito Academia application for character witness.

That wasn't in the car by coincidence.


who is Kyle..? for starters... and Casey has told so many lies. Guess you latched onto one of em..

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 12:34 AM
I switched off the overhead light and turned on a lamp .. :D:lol:

I really am not trying to pick on anyone but that last type font of that post was really something and hurt my eyes and had to change lighting in the room. Thats pretty bad.

bchand
09-20-2008, 12:34 AM
I love jokes!! :seeya:

Was George really collecting donations for Casey today?

:seeya:

No No, that was a typo by ME. He was collecting donations (supposedly) for CAYLEE.

mosey2
09-20-2008, 12:34 AM
This is my first "night" on the boards, so glad to see so many of the "day" people on here.....and for a Friday night, aren't you a dedicated bunch. Love to Caylee and justice for Casey! :seeya:
:seeya:Howdy

sadly, I have no life, that I am aware of

mosey2
09-20-2008, 12:35 AM
:seeya:

No No, that was a typo by ME. He was collecting donations (supposedly) for CAYLEE.
No, no typo there. He wont be buying Caylee a big wheel anytime soon, but Casey's defense is going to cost a bundle

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:35 AM
This is my first "night" on the boards, so glad to see so many of the "day" people on here.....and for a Friday night, aren't you a dedicated bunch. Love to Caylee and justice for Casey! :seeya:
we have no lives or ambition

tiny paw-prints
09-20-2008, 12:36 AM
That isn't necessarily true.

You think LE is talking to Hawkins just for something to occupy their time?


Do you think Hawkins will be favorable or unfavorable in Casey's defense? Maybe he can shed some light on Zanny?

OneUp
09-20-2008, 12:36 AM
My husband was career army for awhile. Special Forces. If your CO found ourt about a party house off base, they would impose early curfew, and have the partiers report to base at 8:00 every night. They cant control what goes on off base, but they can sure limit the hours of tom-foolery. Party-poopers!:biggrin:AHA! I see, LOL. They ( my friends) WERE a real group of naughty ones!
Most of them had parents close by...but their parents did alot of limiting too!

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 12:38 AM
Considering the fact that Casey told the Tattoo employee that Caylee's father was a Military man, coupled with the fact that Casey was planning a trip to see Hawkins the Marine, and then add in a healthy dose of rampant text and phone calls to Hawkins via Casey - THAT is why LE is in California with Hawkins.

I'm very interested in the page from the El Petito Academia application for character witness.

That wasn't in the car by coincidence.


:lol: Casey also told everyone the biological father to Caylee was dead. Cindy even confirmed her belief that the father was dead on an early show of Greta.

You can't believe anything that woman says. This man may or may not be the father. but Casey claimed the father was dead and she had the Obit to prove it. Cindy claimed the same on Greta.

Now what?

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 12:38 AM
You might need to change the time zone in your user cp.

Seventy one years huh?

Casey is now seriously looking at twenty three years at the least. A third of the above.

As much as I want Casey convicted for the murder of Caylee, I'm confident in law enforcement's ability to gather the evidence needed while Casey sits in prison for twenty three years.

I have no doubt Casey will be convicted of all the charges she faces at this point in time. :)That's very comforting, LS. I think it will be more, much more. I posted a link to FLA statutes on pg 15 in the links sticky. The sentencing guidelines increase for multiple felony convictions. I think she will be locked away for many years, and many more if she is convicted of murder.

This is no ordinary crime. Casey ignored her daughter's disappearance and partied as though Caylee never existed. No excuse will suffice. None. jmo

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:39 AM
Something in common with the protesters.

I included you

day2day
09-20-2008, 12:40 AM
Night guys..play nice! And don't forget your prayers for Caylee! :seeya:

concernedmom
09-20-2008, 12:40 AM
lmao it was the worst font I've ever seen on this board. I went crossed eye in my left eye!! :cuss: And I posted it!!

:lol::lol:

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:40 AM
:lol: Casey also told everyone the biological father to Caylee was dead. Cindy even confirmed her belief that the father was dead on an early show of Greta.

You can't believe anything that woman says. This man may or may not be the father. but Casey claimed the father was dead and she had the Obit to prove it. Cindy claimed the same on Greta.

Now what?

yeah, she can believe it. but the rest of us know better

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 12:41 AM
I love jokes!! :seeya:

Was George really collecting donations for Casey today?

He said for Caylee

bchand
09-20-2008, 12:41 AM
Night guys..play nice! And don't forget your prayers for Caylee! :seeya:

Nite day2day - that's for the link to the trust fund info too !

Have a good night.

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:41 AM
I'm very curious to know where all the moeny went.

Not for searches. Of that I'm sure.

IMO.


caution tape, stakes, several cell phones, gas cans, and the home shopping network.

mosey2
09-20-2008, 12:42 AM
Considering the fact that Casey told the Tattoo employee that Caylee's father was a Military man, coupled with the fact that Casey was planning a trip to see Hawkins the Marine, and then add in a healthy dose of rampant text and phone calls to Hawkins via Casey - THAT is why LE is in California with Hawkins.

I'm very interested in the page from the El Petito Academia application for character witness.

That wasn't in the car by coincidence.

El Petito Academia application?
I dont suppose you have a link, do you?
TIA

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 12:42 AM
RR hey what's up with that anyway? I am not sure what happened there but it looks like a font was most certainly clicked on :eek:

Last night, I had several posts where my options were enabled then not; I think there are gremlins here on this new board, well, RR I've seen them!!! I do love the bold font and use it often online but have you all noticed with this new vbulletin that the posts are all bold? I really love it and I keep forgetting that the bold is enabled already.

So if I hit bold by rote It's Double Bold! Well anyway, I do appreciate it because the old board was hard to read. :D


It's cool just preview your posts from now on. It does really bother some of us with bad eyes. I know you didn't mean to do anything on purpose. just try and preview first and check font. thanks

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:43 AM
I haven't been here all day... so I un-included me.


alright. then we have one who is here because it's their ambition to seek attention. C'mon out Scooby.....

OneUp
09-20-2008, 12:43 AM
well, your's would have been one less, now wouldn't it? Mine too. Guess we all were posting.....and maybe pretty close together, huh?ABSOLUTELY boxer!..I was about to send a Pm.LOL:lol:
I got 'er read though Jenny! I did it for you!

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:44 AM
And I'll bet those Joy Mangano Huggable Hangers® worked out great!


I'm thinking leather couch and another shed or two

concernedmom
09-20-2008, 12:44 AM
El Petito Academia application?
I dont suppose you have a link, do you?
TIA


I was looking for that post because I wanted to ask DG what this is?

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 12:44 AM
Not Jenny, CW.
Are you saying CW is rude?:eek::rolleyes:

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 12:45 AM
staying with mark would have been challenging as he is a corporal and single, making it extrememly likely he lived in the barracks. but that doesn't mean she didn't make the attempt. jmoBut it's possible he has non-military friends there. Casey wouldn't care, as long as they are male. ;)

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:46 AM
garden hose, baseball bat, security cameras, new sunglasses


Hallmark cards for the spatting couple, tire rotation.

Vibo
09-20-2008, 12:46 AM
:seeya:Howdy

sadly, I have no life, that I am aware of

:beer: :hat:

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 12:48 AM
I wonder how Lee feels being exposed as a liar on NGAbout as bad as Casey does? Not at all. This can all be explained away. After all, Casey is explaining away a worse crime, right? Only in their minds...imo

OneUp
09-20-2008, 12:48 AM
the thing is "that group" changes theories as often as I change my underpants--about every 6 days.
First Morales, then Tony, then Jesse, now the Marine

Fickle? or a man-hater?I see what you are saying mosey...but I was referring to the Anthony's and Baez...I guess that Holly should be included too( Last years proud winner fo the coveted "Mother of the Year' award).
If they WERE reading here.
JMO.

Rayosunshine
09-20-2008, 12:48 AM
around the mouth & the nose too. you should see a closer up shot. maybe someone can put one up.

Have you seen the pic of Caylee in the carseat. Dead-ringer (forgive my use of this term)

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

bluwaters
09-20-2008, 12:48 AM
Nancy Grace Sep.19_Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7W9CyT_gI0

Nancy Grace Sep.19_Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O31rVxwHeV8

Nancy Grace Sep.19_Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIktlBMU4Xc

Nancy Grace Sep.19_Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5lAybcOTPE

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 12:49 AM
I keep seeing references to GA collecting disability. I'm disabled but my understanding is that I can't collect disability because my spouse makes too much and I have assets. What's the deal, pickle?

That is absurd, I have never heard of that before.

Nellie
09-20-2008, 12:49 AM
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Casey would surely say that she paid the nanny with cash.
By the way........i wonder if LE checked to see if she had a checking account in her name. JMO

I wonder if she claimed the nanny on her taxes.
Don't you have to tell the IRS the name of your nanny when claiming childcare on your taxes?

StickyBeak
09-20-2008, 12:50 AM
snipped

For a half hour, Williams told investigators he drew a design on Casey Anthony's shoulder that read, "bella vida" or "beautiful life."

Should be no problem changing the bella to "prison" MOO :biggrin:

bchand
09-20-2008, 12:51 AM
Ok then! I wonder if anyone is collecting donations for Casey. Isn't she broke? She stole all the money she ever had didn't she? :shrug:

She doesn't need money Scooby - she's got:

Free attorney
Free Guardian Angels watching "her" house
Free rides to and from her attorney's office
Free room and board


Future $$ collected via Lee's personal paypal acct.

etc etc

barskin&co.
09-20-2008, 12:51 AM
I thought Nancy Grace had determined that there was no Hispanic babysitter with the name Zanny? How could any Hispanic woman escape detection by authorities in the state of Florida? It's a virtual certainty that there are no illegal aliens living in that state.:confused:

Put it this way. She and no one else from Team Casey has ever come up with a single valid address, phone number, photograph, anyone else alive who has ever seen Casey's "nanny" Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, her mother, "Gloria," or her sister, "Samantha." A review of her phone records revealed not one single call from or to a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. Casey gave oodles of those details, and they were all lies; if she existed, why would she make up lies? In other words, no, there is no "Zanny the nanny."

Rayosunshine
09-20-2008, 12:51 AM
Me too I'd give anything to be wrong. Anything. I brought up Mary Beth Smith last night; and how of us learned a huge lesson following that case. But in light of everything that's happened, charges are coming. I think that for some reason, Casey has a get out of jail free card. I'm still trying to figure out exactly why that is. Maybe a case of LaFave, too pretty to go to jail syndrome. What is so sad, is that she is really an ugly person on the inside. It is true, all the profiling that's coming out about her personality. Her voice, her speech patterns which I brought up long ago, all are great indications that she is totally unplugged. Its that moment she turns around in the court room though. Want to see a monster? Just look at that video where she grins really big in the court room. She's as off balance as my wash machine when it's full of throw rugs.

It doesnt take rocket science or many shrinks to point out all the signs of her pathology. What's sad is seeing where it came from. I konw what it's like to lash out in pain, Im sure all of you do. You're adults, you know what it's like to hurt and be hurt. What the A's have done, to tarnish Caylee's memory like they have is really an abomination to me. Truly it is. All we can hope for is that Casey tracked down the real father and turned her over. It's all we can hope for; because at this point Caylee is presumed dead by most experts. Why grief counseling, and mental health experts have not been brought in at the point, is also very telling.

Dots


Great post Dots.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

OneUp
09-20-2008, 12:51 AM
who is Kyle..? for starters... and Casey has told so many lies. Guess you latched onto one of em..
I almost forgot about Kyle!...does anybody have one bit of info. on him other than the mention that Casey phoned him during the "flurry": of calls?

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 12:52 AM
On July 2, more than two weeks after Caylee was last seen, and two weeks before Cindy Anthony reported the little girl missing, Bobby Lee Williams gave Casey Anthony a tattoo.

Williams said he did not get a sense that Casey Anthony was looking for a child or worried.

For a half hour, Williams told investigators he drew a design on Casey Anthony's shoulder that read, "bella vida" or "beautiful life."

I wonder where she got the money for that, Tats aren't cheap.

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:52 AM
Ok then! I wonder if anyone is collecting donations for Casey. Isn't she broke? She stole all the money she ever had didn't she? :shrug:
well, her mother admitted to giving her some....but only occasionally...:D

msjoni
09-20-2008, 12:53 AM
I keep seeing references to GA collecting disability. I'm disabled but my understanding is that I can't collect disability because my spouse makes too much and I have assets. What's the deal, pickle?

Ratched, I have the same disability as you and collect SS disability...just go to your local office (I suggest you call first) and see what happens...If you ever worked you're entitled for ss.....

bchand
09-20-2008, 12:53 AM
On July 2, more than two weeks after Caylee was last seen, and two weeks before Cindy Anthony reported the little girl missing, Bobby Lee Williams gave Casey Anthony a tattoo.

Williams said he did not get a sense that Casey Anthony was looking for a child or worried.

For a half hour, Williams told investigators he drew a design on Casey Anthony's shoulder that read, "bella vida" or "beautiful life."

and....he asked Casey if next time she would bring Caylee back for a visit and she said sure !!

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 12:53 AM
No, silly. I was saying That CW said that we could not talk about that stuff.

Thank you for the clarification.

barskin&co.
09-20-2008, 12:53 AM
I wonder if she claimed the nanny on her taxes.
Don't you have to tell the IRS the name of your nanny when claiming childcare on your taxes?

Well, she came up with an ingenious plan to get around that. She didn't have a job, therefore she had no income upon which to pay taxes.

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:54 AM
I almost forgot about Kyle!...does anybody have one bit of info. on him other than the mention that Casey phoned him during the "flurry": of calls?


you might ask DaddysGirl....:D

barskin&co.
09-20-2008, 12:54 AM
and....he asked Casey if next time she would bring Caylee back for a visit and she said sure !!

I'm surprised by that. You would have thought she'd say, "Absolutely!"

dixie77
09-20-2008, 12:55 AM
I think that her Dna is very important in this case. Determining who her father is; may be key. MDNA could be used but we all know Casey was in the Car, it was Cindy's car, Lees car. It would help to have his DNA, Im not afraid to discuss it. I wonder if Casey is shaking in her ugly boots yet?
Tick Tock.

Dots
========

Jenny U made a good point....something that i had not thought of. Very interesting. JMO

mosey2
09-20-2008, 12:55 AM
I was looking for that post because I wanted to ask DG what this is?
I was wondering if the link was with Zanny somewhere. DG might have had to gone to J.Blanchard park for it.

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 12:55 AM
About as bad as Casey does? Not at all. This can all be explained away. After all, Casey is explaining away a worse crime, right? Only in their minds...imo

Good point, that whole family is a disgrace.

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 12:55 AM
Errrr the financial information being revealed tonight, about the BK and the SSI and their apparent dysfunction is very very upsetting.

hammer

Again, I have to wonder if this whole thing was a ruse. To make millions, a book deal movie deal, donations. How many cases now have some of us followed, heart and soul I might add.....and have watched the money trail? This is very interesting. Because GA doesnt Look Disabled, I hate to go there as I know what that's like, its no ones business. But the fact they were suffeling monies about is very disturbing and does make one wonder, is Caylee Safe somewhere and they are going to "produce" her out of a hat, and in the process make a cool million? Just sayin guys, you all know the McCanns did just that.Where did you see that George was getting disability? :confused:

Nellie
09-20-2008, 12:55 AM
Errrr the financial information being revealed tonight, about the BK and the SSI and their apparent dysfunction is very very upsetting.

hammer

Again, I have to wonder if this whole thing was a ruse. To make millions, a book deal movie deal, donations. How many cases now have some of us followed, heart and soul I might add.....and have watched the money trail? This is very interesting. Because GA doesnt Look Disabled, I hate to go there as I know what that's like, its no ones business. But the fact they were suffeling monies about is very disturbing and does make one wonder, is Caylee Safe somewhere and they are going to "produce" her out of a hat, and in the process make a cool million? Just sayin guys, you all know the McCanns did just that.

But what about the dead body smell? :shrug: Who do you think that might have been stinking up the trunk? :confused:

mosey2
09-20-2008, 12:56 AM
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Jenny U made a good point....something that i had not thought of. Very interesting. JMO
MDNA cant be used to determine the father. Only the mom

OneUp
09-20-2008, 12:56 AM
I love jokes!! :seeya:

Was George really collecting donations for Casey today?That's a cute nic! Is it a play on words? Or are you just a fan of Scooby?...I had a client who was nuts for those cartoons! I took her to ride in a "real" Mystery Machine that was made locally, it's so cute...they rent it for Birthday parties!
Sorry for the OT, I miss some of my clients and that reminded me of her!:D She was adorable!
On Topic, sort of, Welcome to the Caylee In Sessions forum!
Have you been reading along or following the case in the news?

msjoni
09-20-2008, 12:56 AM
Maybe his disability is work-related.

Then it would be worker's comp...

Boxer
09-20-2008, 12:57 AM
George's family of two would be correct.

Casey & Lee would not be included as they are over the age of eighteen.

It could possibly be George's family of three if Caylee was included as one of his own.

IMO.


math much, lolololol. good job!

bchand
09-20-2008, 12:57 AM
I'm surprised by that. You would have thought she'd say, "Absolutely!"

true or "let's meet at a neutral place with a centralized location."

Rayosunshine
09-20-2008, 12:57 AM
plenty of glasses over here. whatever ya need up to bifocals. That's as far as I go.

And I've got the near, far and everywhere.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 12:58 AM
You'll get the hang of the new board .. :D

Interesting it was the left eye and not the right one.

Nellie
09-20-2008, 12:59 AM
Well, she came up with an ingenious plan to get around that. She didn't have a job, therefore she had no income upon which to pay taxes.

Yeah....come to think of it....did she ever "pretend" to file taxes every year so she could carry on the "ruse of a job" in front of her parents?
Weird to think of! Didn't they ever wonder why she didn't file taxes? C'mon, how does someone live with you and pretend to go to work for years and you never figure it out????? :shrug: I'm just not "buying it".

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 01:00 AM
What's absurd Willow?

You not being able to collect due to what your husband makes.

barskin&co.
09-20-2008, 01:00 AM
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Jenny U made a good point....something that i had not thought of. Very interesting. JMO

Humor me here. I don't understand. They have Caylee's own DNA to use as a comparison for tests. What would her father's DNA be needed for?

mosey2
09-20-2008, 01:01 AM
I almost forgot about Kyle!...does anybody have one bit of info. on him other than the mention that Casey phoned him during the "flurry": of calls?
Somewhere in the 400 page doc is a printed sheet with notes handwritten around the edges. The handwritten notes say "No" "False" and a bunch of phone numbers hand written on the bottom with arrows to the text. There is the name "Bob" (I think) & Kyle with a phone number that the officer had crossed out. That is the only other mention of Kyle that I have seen.

concernedmom
09-20-2008, 01:02 AM
But what about the dead body smell? :shrug: Who do you think that might have been stinking up the trunk? :confused:

Thats the problem there. Its hard to move past the decomp and hair or there are other things that very well could have happened with this crazy Casey. :confused:

bchand
09-20-2008, 01:02 AM
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TISHU2LG6MO3T7B6E

While they refer to George's SSI or disability on that site - I believe I'd read elsewhere they were concerned about George's pension - therefore Lee's name was used for $$ purposes.

I've never heard that George was collecting any disability money either.

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 01:04 AM
Thats the problem there. Its hard to move past the decomp and hair or there are other things that very well could have happened with this crazy Casey. :confused:

ITA, every time I allow myself some hope I remember the trunk.

barskin&co.
09-20-2008, 01:05 AM
Yeah....come to think of it....did she ever "pretend" to file taxes every year so she could carry on the "ruse of a job" in front of her parents?
Weird to think of! Didn't they ever wonder why she didn't file taxes? C'mon, how does someone live with you and pretend to go to work for years and you never figure it out????? :shrug: I'm just not "buying it".

Oh, that she could get away with easily enough. She could tell them she had an accountant at work do it for her (being such an important event planner, after all). Her parents didn't need to see the tax form. Getting away with supposedly working for more than two years when she was unemployed- now that was a feat! (Although, Cindy told Amy in July 15 that she wondered if she really had a job, which was about time for that suspicion)

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 01:06 AM
I keep seeing references to GA collecting disability. I'm disabled but my understanding is that I can't collect disability because my spouse makes too much and I have assets. What's the deal, pickle?Maybe you need to read this?

http://www.disabilitybenefits101.org/ca/programs/income_support/ss_disability/ssdi/program.htm

Rayosunshine
09-20-2008, 01:06 AM
I keep seeing references to GA collecting disability. I'm disabled but my understanding is that I can't collect disability because my spouse makes too much and I have assets. What's the deal, pickle?

What??? You can't collect disability cause your spouse makes too much and you have assets? Is that SSI? Didn't know they had that rule. Am interested because of my line of work. Thanks

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

bchand
09-20-2008, 01:06 AM
Well then, just who has come forward to explain where the child was being cared for when her mother was said to have been visiting nightclubs and at other times while it was established that the child was indeed, still very much alive? I am directing my question to the two years before Casey's mother phoned the police.
Does anybody really believe that everybody living in the state of Florida is living there legally?:rolleyes:

Oh didn't you hear Cindy "scream" the other night at the protesters that SHE would watch Caylee whenever Casey went out?

Now we hear about invisible illegal aliens. Why not - throw them in the mix.

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 01:08 AM
You make more money than Cindy. George's family of 4 might be larger than yours.It's based on your income earned. Nothing to do with the size of your family.

http://www.disabilitybenefits101.org/ca/programs/income_support/ss_disability/ssdi/program.htm

OneUp
09-20-2008, 01:08 AM
Ok then! I wonder if anyone is collecting donations for Casey. Isn't she broke? She stole all the money she ever had didn't she? :shrug:Well, some here have speculated that she has done some work under the table for Baez. maybe she has some money that way. She sure has to do something to stay busy so long each day at his office, it might as well be productive!
I'm not sure, but I think People are donating to casey though...I don't know why, but some are.
Somehow they have it in their heads that the only good defense is an expensive defense...I kinda always thought truth was pretty cheap. I guess that only works if you can use the truth as your defense though, KWIM?
JMO.

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 01:08 AM
Hi Nellie, she was bedding LE left and right. Maybe they had access to a lab. Now; as Casey would say "im really reaching here".....
:D

My theory still stands, it really does. It's just in these cases as things trickle out; you start to really wonder. This family is starting to sound like a family that was having a financial crisis of some kind. So, could this all be a ruse? It would be great if it was, because then Caylee would be alive.

As GA said, that was not his grand daughters body in that Trunk!!
I guess it was "someone elses"...

Honest I've not changed my theory, I'm still good to go with it. Except for the financial info that is all over the net tonight about being on Disability, and CA filing for BK and Lee funneling the 80K in donations thus far, Im good to go that this whole family is involved...

What was that statement that Casey made on a phone call from the jail to her mom, something along the lines of "You don't know what my involvement was in this, are you kidding me" That to me is a very strange statement, I wonder what she was really saying.

Katprint
09-20-2008, 01:09 AM
Why I wonder would the former head security guard be asking for immunity?
I wondered about this, and then I tried putting myself in their position: They are guarding a family who all lie constantly, who blame other people for problems that they themselves cause, and who might falsely accuse the security guards of miscellaneous transgressions. So, perhaps the former head security guard placed SECRET RECORDING DEVICES in the Anthony residence to confirm that none of the security personnel engaged in professional misconduct, for example, that none of them stole and used Cindy Anthony's credit cards (remember that identity theft police report that Cindy filed at some point after Casey's arrest?) or sexually assaulted Casey or any other bad things. And now maybe the negotiations concern immunity from prosecution for those illegal secret recordings.

Just a thought. I have no actual facts to back this up.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 01:09 AM
Me too I'd give anything to be wrong. Anything. I brought up Mary Beth Smith last night; and how of us learned a huge lesson following that case. But in light of everything that's happened, charges are coming. I think that for some reason, Casey has a get out of jail free card. I'm still trying to figure out exactly why that is. Maybe a case of LaFave, too pretty to go to jail syndrome. What is so sad, is that she is really an ugly person on the inside. It is true, all the profiling that's coming out about her personality. Her voice, her speech patterns which I brought up long ago, all are great indications that she is totally unplugged. Its that moment she turns around in the court room though. Want to see a monster? Just look at that video where she grins really big in the court room. She's as off balance as my wash machine when it's full of throw rugs.

It doesnt take rocket science or many shrinks to point out all the signs of her pathology. What's sad is seeing where it came from. I konw what it's like to lash out in pain, Im sure all of you do. You're adults, you know what it's like to hurt and be hurt. What the A's have done, to tarnish Caylee's memory like they have is really an abomination to me. Truly it is. All we can hope for is that Casey tracked down the real father and turned her over. It's all we can hope for; because at this point Caylee is presumed dead by most experts. Why grief counseling, and mental health experts have not been brought in at the point, is also very telling.

Dots
This hurts my eyes. :shrug:

barskin&co.
09-20-2008, 01:09 AM
Well then, just who has come forward to explain where the child was being cared for when her mother was said to have been visiting nightclubs and at other times while it was established that the child was indeed, still very much alive? I am directing my question to the two years before Casey's mother phoned the police.
Does anybody really believe that everybody living in the state of Florida is living there legally?:rolleyes:

Casey lived at home with her parents. She didn't need a sitter when George and Cindy were home. There was a friend that sometimes came to the house to sit (she was on Nancy Grace). Some times, she took Caylee along with her her to friends' parties (which would freak out the friends). Other times she was probably completely irresponsible. I do not understand your fixation on illegal aliens, though.

panokatana
09-20-2008, 01:10 AM
Catching up on some earlier posts.
Re: Casey accessing the internet while at the house.
I wonder if she could access the internet via one of her parents or one of her many cell phones, instead of a laptop or desktop computer. If so, would it be possible for LE to monitor her usage, the sites she visits that way, etc?

JMO

TN Serenity
09-20-2008, 01:10 AM
I don't and it's not. What I read at SSI to get disability allowed a *very* modest income coming into the home and virtually no assets. ]

There is a difference in SSI and Social Security Disability. SSI is based on your income and is only given to supplement your current income. The amount given for Social Security Disability is based on the amount you have actually worked out in the past so many years (I'm not sure how many years they go back). If you have never held a job, then you probably would not be elgible for Social Security Disability.

dixie77
09-20-2008, 01:12 AM
I keep seeing references to GA collecting disability. I'm disabled but my understanding is that I can't collect disability because my spouse makes too much and I have assets. What's the deal, pickle?
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Someone is pulling the wool over your eyes. Thats incorrect info.

StickyBeak
09-20-2008, 01:12 AM
What was that statement that Casey made on a phone call from the jail to her mom, something along the lines of "You don't know what my involvement was in this, are you kidding me" That to me is a very strange statement, I wonder what she was really saying.


I think it was more the way she said it, more a mean spirited statement, not like a question implying her mother can't possibly believe she had anything to do with caylee missing. JMO Still very strange

barskin&co.
09-20-2008, 01:12 AM
Which is why; they need her full DNA panel. HAving those 13 to 15 markers is key. Not having half of them and relying soley on Mdna could make the case weeker. I'd rather have the full DNA panel of course they do have that but PROVING it was CAYLEE in that TRUNK, and not having half her DNA could be a wee bit of a problem...

Because the Mdna will show casey, cindy, and LE needs MORE than that. They need that full panel. So finding her birth father, is key for starters. Also, nailing down all those calls she was making will be key. And, everyone elses. From momma to papa to "brother Lee"
those phone records are going to help. So will her hard drive.

Everyone Lies
Everyone Dies.

Chilling. There is still something about that to me that makes me wonder if Cindy A did last have Caylee, and she let Casey DOWN.
The baby died in her care, she couldnt trust any of them. As she said on the jail tapes, no one is behind her. They are going to Pin this On Her I believe were her words. Then you have Cindy A sugary sickening sweet saying Oh honey now dont do that......and we clearly see who Casey's teacher was. (!!) Stomps feet.
"This is All About Caylee" !! (stomps them harder)

Dots: they have Caylee's DNA. If they are testing anything to see if it was her, they have the DNA they need to compare it to.

Rayosunshine
09-20-2008, 01:13 AM
I am not a fan of math at all. :)

Is it true that George is on disability? Anyone know?

If he is, I don't think he is supposed to be working, unless circumstances of the disability allow that.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

concernedmom
09-20-2008, 01:14 AM
There is a difference in SSI and Social Security Disability. SSI is based on your income and is only give to supplement your current income. The amount given for Social Security Disability is based on the amount you have actually worked out in the past so many years (I'm not sure how many years they go back). If you have never held a job, then you probably would not be elgible for Social Security Disability.


If you are drawing a pension you are allowed to make so much money a year and thats all from working.
Disability is given when you cant work.
George is working at least lenny said so. So he must be getting some kind of regular pension. How old is George?

concernedmom
09-20-2008, 01:15 AM
If he is, I don't think he is supposed to be working, unless circumstances of the disability allow that.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Right. Unless you are getting paid under the table and you better not get caught because thats fraud.

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 01:15 AM
I wonder where she got the money for that, Tats aren't cheap.Cindy's credit card? Oh, wait, she told LE she'd lie or steal to find Caylee, so I guess getting that tat was part of the lie and steal. How exactly does getting that tat help Caylee? :confused:

lol...that's going to be hilarious to her cell mates in felony prison. "A beautiful life?" :lol:

bchand
09-20-2008, 01:16 AM
Casey lived at home with her parents. She didn't need a sitter when George and Cindy were home. There was a friend that sometimes came to the house to sit (she was on Nancy Grace). Some times, she took Caylee along with her her to friends' parties (which would freak out the friends). Other times she was probably completely irresponsible. I do not understand your fixation on illegal aliens, though.

That's right plus she wasn't old enough to go into bars 2 years ago.

I think the illegal alien angle is a reason some are coming up with why the "babysitter" isn't coming forward.

Maybe Casey is telling her parents this illegal babysitter took Caylee back to Mexico.

concernedmom
09-20-2008, 01:18 AM
I tried to make an evening thread.


It worked. can you delete the other one you made?

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=340774

WillowInFlight
09-20-2008, 01:18 AM
Thanks Joan, I will read through this. I had my Mom look all this up for me recently when I was too ill to do it myself and what she told me put me WAY out of eligibility, but I need to look for myself while I'm feeling relatively okay. Thanks again. :seeya:

Yes you need to, I would hate to see you not get what you are entitled to

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 01:18 AM
If he is, I don't think he is supposed to be working, unless circumstances of the disability allow that.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomNo, he wouldn't be allowed to work. He can get it even with his pension, if he's under 65, and I'm sure he is. imo

http://www.disabilitybenefits101.org/ca/programs/income_support/ss_disability/ssdi/program.htm

OneUp
09-20-2008, 01:19 AM
Bet LE does. :)I'd imagine so...But you ALL know I am nosey! I want to be in the know too!

jammies
09-20-2008, 01:20 AM
New LATE night thread over here....


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12152278&posted=1#post12152278

Katprint
09-20-2008, 01:20 AM
That's right plus she wasn't old enough to go into bars 2 years ago.

I think the illegal alien angle is a reason some are coming up with why the "babysitter" isn't coming forward.

Maybe Casey is telling her parents this illegal babysitter took Caylee back to Mexico.
You would think the illegal alien babysitter who took Caylee back to Mexico would contact authorities to arrange giving Caylee back in exchange for the $225,000 reward. Or even better, give Caylee to trusted relatives who could claim to have "found" Caylee and then bring Caylee back for the reward which they would then split with the babysitter.

Those darned couldn't-care-less-about-money illegal alien nannies! [/sarcasm]

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 01:21 AM
Thanks Joan, I will read through this. I had my Mom look all this up for me recently when I was too ill to do it myself and what she told me put me WAY out of eligibility, but I need to look for myself while I'm feeling relatively okay. Thanks again. :seeya:I'm sorry you are ill. :(

Why don't you just call the social security office? They'll figure it out for you. That's what they get paid to do. It says in the link it's retroactive, too.

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 01:22 AM
I know that was part of the problem since I haven't worked for about 11 years.That doesn't matter. It's based on your life work history.

bchand
09-20-2008, 01:22 AM
You would think the illegal alien babysitter who took Caylee back to Mexico would contact authorities to arrange giving Caylee back in exchange for the $225,000 reward. Or even better, give Caylee to trusted relatives who could claim to have "found" Caylee and then bring Caylee back for the reward which they would then split with the babysitter.

Those darned couldn't-care-less-about-money illegal alien nannies! [/sarcasm]

Katprint
Always only my own opinions


I know - what's a few $$$ to a poor illegal nanny.:D

dixie77
09-20-2008, 01:22 AM
MDNA cant be used to determine the father. Only the mom
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With all the technology they have today, u mean to tell me that they cant use it to determine who the father is?

msjoni
09-20-2008, 01:23 AM
There is a difference in SSI and Social Security Disability. SSI is based on your income and is only given to supplement your current income. The amount given for Social Security Disability is based on the amount you have actually worked out in the past so many years (I'm not sure how many years they go back). If you have never held a job, then you probably would not be elgible for Social Security Disability.

You are correct, but if she worked she has paid into the system and should apply...

About George, I heard he was on workers compensation....

Joan Weiss
09-20-2008, 01:25 AM
I read SSI. Not certian now, but most of it IS public record. And now a BK in April? That's a family in dire need of money.
80K just flew in their mailbox. It went into an account that was closed, and it was filtered through Lee.
Had it been collected straight into the As accounts, they could not file BK or receive their regular benefit amount. There is a cap on that...
For most. A limit you are allowed to make. SSI/Disablility is what I read. My problem is he seemed to weild that hose really well and unless he has cancer or is chronic then maybe the Rico Act is the way to go with this whole family. They could be facing HUGE charges under the Rico act.
Its something to consider. Threaten them with THAT, and maybe they will come clean with where she really is. No one seems overly concerned or in greif. We have NOT seen an OUNCe of Grief from any family member, yet.
Is it because they stashed this child away and they all know she is alive and safe?
I dont know how to explain what's in that car. 3 People smelled it. Only they know what they smelled. One is a nurse, one is Prior LE one is a Mgr at a tow yard, who recovered a suicide in a car on his lot. All three know the smell of Decomp.

Casey is the one missing. Im reaching here, grasping for straws because I want her to be alive too, just like anyone else does! I hope you all know that. Their BEHAVIOR doesnt ADD UP. This is no Sharon Rocha we've got here. Not the Lundsfords...

Something different going on here. I may have to rethink my theory!! (egads)There are many things classified as illness, when dealing with disability. Mental illness, alcoholism also are valid reasons. imo

OneUp
09-20-2008, 01:26 AM
Yeah....come to think of it....did she ever "pretend" to file taxes every year so she could carry on the "ruse of a job" in front of her parents?
Weird to think of! Didn't they ever wonder why she didn't file taxes? C'mon, how does someone live with you and pretend to go to work for years and you never figure it out????? :shrug: I'm just not "buying it".I agree...just her tax return and a child tax credit would have been a decent size amount of $...Didn't they wonder things like why she didn't use it for a down payment on a new car? Especially as she supposedly had this super job and could "afford" the payments?
I wonder where my daughter wastes her pay and she only brings in a couple of hundred every two weeks...( clothes, it's nearly all clothes and gas!:rolleyes:Ridiculous! I tell her to enjoy it while she's young! LOL). The point being, she isn't supporting a child and I'm not paying those expenses, and I still have a handle on how she spends.
I don't think they could have NOT noticed that long...just over two years ( April 2006-June-ISH 2008)...unless she had some cash to throw around from time to time. That leads me to believe she was pilfering money someplace long before she was caught stealing from Grandpa Plesea.
JMO.

OneUp
09-20-2008, 01:31 AM
Well then, just who has come forward to explain where the child was being cared for when her mother was said to have been visiting nightclubs and at other times while it was established that the child was indeed, still very much alive? I am directing my question to the two years before Casey's mother phoned the police.
Does anybody really believe that everybody living in the state of Florida is living there legally?:rolleyes:AFAIK, Cindy has acknowledged keeping caylee when casey was "working" nights, and of course Casey herself took care of Caylee all day when George and Cindy were working.
I think Kristina had her some and maybe One other female friend ( Annie? or Kio?) from time to time.
JMO.

msjoni
09-20-2008, 01:33 AM
There are many things classified as illness, when dealing with disability. Mental illness, alcoholism also are valid reasons. imo

You're less likely to get approved for these...

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 01:33 AM
I don't think that post was to you. :shrug:


lol I love your posts. :seeya:

OneUp
09-20-2008, 01:35 AM
I wondered about this, and then I tried putting myself in their position: They are guarding a family who all lie constantly, who blame other people for problems that they themselves cause, and who might falsely accuse the security guards of miscellaneous transgressions. So, perhaps the former head security guard placed SECRET RECORDING DEVICES in the Anthony residence to confirm that none of the security personnel engaged in professional misconduct, for example, that none of them stole and used Cindy Anthony's credit cards (remember that identity theft police report that Cindy filed at some point after Casey's arrest?) or sexually assaulted Casey or any other bad things. And now maybe the negotiations concern immunity from prosecution for those illegal secret recordings.

Just a thought. I have no actual facts to back this up.

Katprint
Always only my own opinionsTY for sharing Kat! i was trying to come up with answers...yours intrigues me!

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 01:41 AM
Good point, it's better to have several nics that sound nothing alike. :)

If there wasn't an Adverse Party then there wouldn't be a need to even discus things like this. :biggrin:

Nellie
09-20-2008, 01:48 AM
Hi Nellie, she was bedding LE left and right. Maybe they had access to a lab. Now; as Casey would say "im really reaching here".....
:D

My theory still stands, it really does. It's just in these cases as things trickle out; you start to really wonder. This family is starting to sound like a family that was having a financial crisis of some kind. So, could this all be a ruse? It would be great if it was, because then Caylee would be alive.

As GA said, that was not his grand daughters body in that Trunk!!
I guess it was "someone elses"...

Honest I've not changed my theory, I'm still good to go with it. Except for the financial info that is all over the net tonight about being on Disability, and CA filing for BK and Lee funneling the 80K in donations thus far, Im good to go that this whole family is involved...

Jenny, I've thought the whole family has been involved from Day 1....I just can't decide in which way. But things just were "not right" from the beginning.

I'm trying to play "catch up" now about they money trail. Dang it, you can't leave for a day in your own "real life" without coming back and being totally lost. So, where is the money stuff coming from? Reliable sources? If it's true....seems to me that poor little Caylee's death/dissappearance brought them good luck???? How sick is that?

I wish LE would get to the bottom of this. This has gone on way too long.

OneUp
09-20-2008, 01:49 AM
Thats always a problem with nics created to mimic other nics.Ego much? ... did you corner the market on Scooby Doo? Maybe, just maybe someone else is a fan? Scoob was a "detective" and this is a crime related forum.
I got a PM, Scooby seems nice to me!:) Why not give new posters the benefit of the doubt?
JMO

johnielee333
09-20-2008, 01:53 AM
But what about the dead body smell? :shrug: Who do you think that might have been stinking up the trunk? :confused:

the boogie man :biggrin:

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 01:54 AM
Ego much? ... did you corner the market on Scooby Doo? Maybe, just maybe someone else is a fan? Scoob was a "detective" and this is a crime related forum.
I got a PM, Scooby seems nice to me!:) Why not give new posters the benefit of the doubt?
JMO


I've seen several similiar nics to one another and it's bound to happen at some point and time.

Boxer
09-20-2008, 01:56 AM
I've seen several similiar nics to one another and it's bound to happen at some point and time.


people confuse me and 5boxersmom all the time:shrug:

Rebel Rouzer
09-20-2008, 02:00 AM
people confuse me and 5boxersmom all the time:shrug:

Well I can say this. I love both of you to death and if I was accused or confused with anoyone else as you guys somtimes are I'd gladly take it as a complement. :D

dreamtime
09-20-2008, 02:10 AM
There is a difference in SSI and Social Security Disability. SSI is based on your income and is only given to supplement your current income. The amount given for Social Security Disability is based on the amount you have actually worked out in the past so many years (I'm not sure how many years they go back). If you have never held a job, then you probably would not be elgible for Social Security Disability.

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This is true. I worked for years with people who had disabilities.
SSI is also based on you and your husband's income and resources.
SSD is based on your work years and the amount you earned.

George A had a workman's comp disability from what I read. I think it said he had two workman's comp claims in the last several years.
But he obviously is able to work now, and had that job one day when all this started in June.

dreamtime
09-20-2008, 02:16 AM
[QUOTE=Katprint;12152244]I wondered about this, and then I tried putting myself in their position: They are guarding a family who all lie constantly, who blame other people for problems that they themselves cause, and who might falsely accuse the security guards of miscellaneous transgressions. So, perhaps the former head security guard placed SECRET RECORDING DEVICES in the Anthony residence to confirm that none of the security personnel engaged in professional misconduct, for example, that none of them stole and used Cindy Anthony's credit cards (remember that identity theft police report that Cindy filed at some point after Casey's arrest?) or sexually assaulted Casey or any other bad things. And now maybe the negotiations concern immunity from prosecution for those illegal secret recordings.

Just a thought. I have no actual facts to back this up.
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I had the same thought!! Also, if Casey did tell her anything and she did not report it to LE, there could be a problem. And she wants immunity because of that.

dreamtime
09-20-2008, 02:22 AM
I'm sorry you are ill. :(

Why don't you just call the social security office? They'll figure it out for you. That's what they get paid to do. It says in the link it's retroactive, too.
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You can apply for SSD online. But from what you are saying, you have not worked for 11 years, so would have to apply for SSI.

SSI cannot be applied for online. Since you have not worked in 11 years, this is the only program that you can apply for.
SSI looks at husband's income and resources.

Call your local SSA office. They can help.

Also, states usually have different programs that people can access. There are even sites where you can get a reduced cost for prescriptions. But only if you do not have medical insurance.

dreamtime
09-20-2008, 02:25 AM
No, he wouldn't be allowed to work. He can get it even with his pension, if he's under 65, and I'm sure he is. imo

http://www.disabilitybenefits101.org/ca/programs/income_support/ss_disability/ssdi/program.htm

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From all I have read, George A worked long enough in Ohio to get a pension. But different companies have different rules. Some states/cities say you have to be over 50 or 55 or 62. So, it would depend. He also may have taken the money out of his pension when he moved to Florida. He would have taken a big penalty for taking the money, but they might have needed it.

dreamtime
09-20-2008, 02:28 AM
I agree...just her tax return and a child tax credit would have been a decent size amount of $...Didn't they wonder things like why she didn't use it for a down payment on a new car? Especially as she supposedly had this super job and could "afford" the payments?
I wonder where my daughter wastes her pay and she only brings in a couple of hundred every two weeks...( clothes, it's nearly all clothes and gas!:rolleyes:Ridiculous! I tell her to enjoy it while she's young! LOL). The point being, she isn't supporting a child and I'm not paying those expenses, and I still have a handle on how she spends.
I don't think they could have NOT noticed that long...just over two years ( April 2006-June-ISH 2008)...unless she had some cash to throw around from time to time. That leads me to believe she was pilfering money someplace long before she was caught stealing from Grandpa Plesea.
JMO.
---------------------------------------------If she were a real event planner with a college degree, she would make over the amount to get back a tax refund.
But then she was not.

Rayosunshine
09-20-2008, 02:28 AM
Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

FoxySly
09-20-2008, 02:52 AM
I don't and it's not. What I read at SSI to get disability allowed a *very* modest income coming into the home and virtually no assets. ]


WOW!!! I'd sure like to know where you "read" that about SSI!!!
There is someone out here that is disabled because of choosing to shoot meth into his veins.
He has been collecting SSI forever owns his property & house here plus 10 acres with a cabin up north at Fish Lake. Never has a 4 wheel drive double cab Dodge diesel truck more then 2 years. Plus a newer model SUV, dirt bikes, dune buggies ect...
Everything is in HIS name. I know all this because people long before I moved into this Valley didn't think this meth cooker/seller should live so RICH & have tried to get him busted on misuse & cooking meth.

So PLEASE let me know where you "read this about SSI" as I am sure it is the same state to state. This tweaker makes the anthony's look mega poor.

TIA

Sly

FoxySly
09-20-2008, 03:09 AM
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Someone is pulling the wool over your eyes. Thats incorrect info.

That's why I asked her where she said she "read" it. Her post didn't make no sense.

Still, as far as we know there are only 'rumors' of george collecting disability tho I don't doubt it... he's work record sucks IMO, wonder if that's where casey got her 'work' habits?.

Sly

FoxySly
09-20-2008, 03:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joan Weiss
Maybe you need to read this?

http://www.disabilitybenefits101.org...di/program.htm

Joan, thanks for posting the link, I knew what that poster had "read" could in no way be correct.

Sly

Marianne
09-20-2008, 04:14 AM
Maybe she did do it for free. After all, she was so proud of the way Caylee was being raised. Kudos for ....???? Your guess is as good as mine.:rolleyes:

Now why would she do that? Didn't she have to earn a living? I'm sure she couldn't earn it on what Casey was paying her though maybe that's where the stolen money was going (to the invisable caretaker, yeah right!). Women who take care of children in their home usually take care of a few and have specific hours. Full time nannies usually live i and get room and board.

Casey describes her as a woman her own age who she is even considering moving in with and who parties at the same clubs. The possibility of some young 20 something unmarried woman with nothing better to do than watch a 2 year old for free is slim.

However, if there is any truth to this I would think it more likely that the nanny saw how well Casey was raised by her grandparents and how poorly by her own mother and stole the child to protect her and give her a better life.

I also think it is odd for a woman named Zenaida Fernandaz Gonzales (doesnt two last names suggest she is or was married?) to have a sister (was it a sister or daughter/) named Samantha.

I think Casey just loves words and likes to put them together to hear them sing.

And also her private joke with her mother and friends calling this person 'the zanny' implies disrespect, it may be cute and it may be funny but not asituation one would trust. people don't move in with their employees. it's not good practice and how was Casey going to pay her share of the rent? Steal of course....why should I ask!

But Casey's 'normal day' of driving home from work to pick Caylee up besides being a complete fabrication doesn't make sense since after 'work' Casey went to her boyfriends or girlfriends and went dancing.

No, Casey just spent two years hanging out with her daughter and not telling anybody. And living off of stolen funds. Who knows what she did with her at night. it doesn't seem to have been detrimental...no way to know of the psychological adjustments necessary to cope.

Also . Casey says she was given a 'script' which she was supposed to adhere to for 30 days . Those 30 days are over so why isn't she talking?

johnielee333
09-20-2008, 05:12 AM
WOW!!! I'd sure like to know where you "read" that about SSI!!!
There is someone out here that is disabled because of choosing to shoot meth into his veins.
He has been collecting SSI forever owns his property & house here plus 10 acres with a cabin up north at Fish Lake. Never has a 4 wheel drive double cab Dodge diesel truck more then 2 years. Plus a newer model SUV, dirt bikes, dune buggies ect...
Everything is in HIS name. I know all this because people long before I moved into this Valley didn't think this meth cooker/seller should live so RICH & have tried to get him busted on misuse & cooking meth.

So PLEASE let me know where you "read this about SSI" as I am sure it is the same state to state. This tweaker makes the anthony's look mega poor.

TIA

Sly

you should turn him into SSI. i am on SSI & i cant have no where near the things he has.

johnielee333
09-20-2008, 05:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joan Weiss
Maybe you need to read this?

http://www.disabilitybenefits101.org...di/program.htm

Joan, thanks for posting the link, I knew what that poster had "read" could in no way be correct.

Sly

yes it is.

Regina.Lampert
09-20-2008, 09:13 AM
anyone can start the threads when they need started.mo
Thanks just the same.:)


Sorry, missed this yesterday. That's correct anyone can begin a thread, I just happen to prefer when Frankie does it because she knows what she's doing and we can rely on her. It also cuts down on having multiple threads for the same time period. :seeya: