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poplife
09-19-2008, 01:48 PM
Carry on ladies and gents, :seeya:

FrankieBones1
09-19-2008, 01:58 PM
Carry on ladies and gents, :seeya:
Hi, Poplife! Thanks for the new thread. I understand there is another new charge in the works; something about a stolen cheque. Guess we will get to witness a fourth arrest and a fourth release.

poplife
09-19-2008, 02:04 PM
Hi, Poplife! Thanks for the new thread. I understand there is another new charge in the works; something about a stolen cheque. Guess we will get to witness a fourth arrest and a fourth release.

i can't imagine $0 bail when every other time she's had to appear and post.

kakax
09-19-2008, 02:06 PM
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The state attorney's office formalized the three most-recent economic charges against Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, on Friday.

The charges stem from allegations that Anthony stole her friend's checks and made several hundred dollars worth of purchases.

Anthony is not expected to be rearrested on these charges because she already turned herself in on the charges on Monday and bonded out of jail on Tuesday.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17510650/detail.html

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 02:07 PM
Hi, Poplife! Thanks for the new thread. I understand there is another new charge in the works; something about a stolen cheque. Guess we will get to witness a fourth arrest and a fourth release.

Thanks for the new thread Pop!

Isn't this ridiculous? I cannot believe that she will be taken in once again, only to be released in a few hours. OH how I wish they had every duck in a row and would surprise her with an arrest warrant for murder! I cannot stand the fact that she is out and doing nothing for her baby. Just makes me sick.

poplife
09-19-2008, 02:10 PM
I've got an itch to get out of the house, can somebody pm CW and ask for this to be stickied?

I'll be back in a bit, thinking of making something chocolatey and gooey for the kids, they'll be thrilled! Had an awesome time at back to school night last night and I want to show them how proud they've made me. :)

kakax
09-19-2008, 02:10 PM
Thanks for the new thread Pop!

Isn't this ridiculous? I cannot believe that she will be taken in once again, only to be released in a few hours. OH how I wish they had every duck in a row and would surprise her with an arrest warrant for murder! I cannot stand the fact that she is out and doing nothing for her baby. Just makes me sick.



She has already been arrested on these charges and bonded out. I did hear on My Fox Orlando last night that there were more check charges to come. Stay tuned LOL!

Boxer
09-19-2008, 02:13 PM
Thanks for the new thread Pop!

Isn't this ridiculous? I cannot believe that she will be taken in once again, only to be released in a few hours. OH how I wish they had every duck in a row and would surprise her with an arrest warrant for murder! I cannot stand the fact that she is out and doing nothing for her baby. Just makes me sick.


I think their little quackers are lining up okay. Caylee has been gone for 3 months and the investigation is only two months old. (I agree it should be three months old as well) It takes time to dot the I's and cross the T's and do lab work etc. Caylee is at peace only lacking hopefully her final place of rest.

SandyO
09-19-2008, 02:14 PM
I can't help being worried about all of this. I had the most awful feeling in the Jon Benet Ramsey case and in the disappearance of Stacey Peterson (Drew Peterson) that Oh my God, My God ---- the murderers aren't going to get away with this, are they? I know there are other cases where the guilty have not been apprehended and punished, but I just can't STAND for that to happen in THIS case, too. Please tell me someone, that the guilty will pay for the loss of Caylee Marie Anthony.

steffaroob4
09-19-2008, 02:14 PM
Incident Report (http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547)- Battery
Taser Incident Report

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 02:15 PM
She has already been arrested on these charges and bonded out. I did hear on My Fox Orlando last night that there were more check charges to come. Stay tuned LOL!

Someone needs to build a super duper turnstile for this chick! SHEESH! Thanks for keeping us updated! :seeya:

FrankieBones1
09-19-2008, 02:16 PM
I've got an itch to get out of the house, can somebody pm CW and ask for this to be stickied?

I'll be back in a bit, thinking of making something chocolatey and gooey for the kids, they'll be thrilled! Had an awesome time at back to school night last night and I want to show them how proud they've made me. :)
Consider it done, Poplife.

kakax
09-19-2008, 02:16 PM
New details on incident last night....


Protester pulls out Taser
10:50 a.m. A protester parked near the Anthony home pulled out a Taser late Thursday after feeling threatened by homeowners, deputies said.

A group of residents approached the man's car and told him to leave the neighborhood, he told deputies. The Guardian Angels, who were stationed outside of the home, saw the confrontation and got involved, said spokesman Jim Solomons.

One of the members of the volunteer safety patrol jumped on the man's car as he was trying to leave, Solmons said. The volunteer was not seriously injured.

However, the homeowners and Guardian Angels gave deputies a different version of events. They told deputies that the man in the car pulled out the Taser and threatened them and then tried to drive away. The Guardian Angels said they were trying to keep the man from leaving and stood in front of his car. The man used his car to bump one of them, Solomons said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony091908,0,2315872.story

Joan Weiss
09-19-2008, 02:16 PM
The police have said that Casey holds all the answers. I'm dreaming that Baez will drop this case, as soon as the going gets tough. He's not experienced enough, imo.

FrankieBones1
09-19-2008, 02:17 PM
Brought over from the last thread:

Originally Posted by day2day
Grab the tissues.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...nelID=10472558
Caylee and Great Granpa-he is singing you are my sunshine to her..

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 02:17 PM
I think their little quackers are lining up okay. Caylee has been gone for 3 months and the investigation is only two months old. (I agree it should be three months old as well) It takes time to dot the I's and cross the T's and do lab work etc. Caylee is at peace only lacking hopefully her final place of rest.


Oh, don't get me wrong, I think that LE has and is doing a phenominal job, I just wish it were at a point where they could snatch the princess up and never let her out of jail again.

:rose: For Caylee and LE.

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 02:17 PM
Brought over from the last thread:

Originally Posted by day2day
Grab the tissues.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...nelID=10472558
Caylee and Great Granpa-he is singing you are my sunshine to her..


I just can't do it. I want to, but can't. I will start sobbing and won't be able to stop. :(

kakax
09-19-2008, 02:20 PM
I just can't do it. I want to, but can't. I will start sobbing and won't be able to stop. :(


Don't then....it is very sad.

Joan Weiss
09-19-2008, 02:24 PM
Incident Report (http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547)- Battery
Taser Incident ReportHmmm...no mention of the bat on the incident report. Why am I not surprised? I saw the bat on the video.

If I were the Anthony's, I wouldn't carry anything that the adversary could take away and use on them. jmo

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 02:25 PM
I wonder why Casey just started stealing checks and charging things to other people. I can't believe she has not done this in the past and no one noticed. I think the As would overlook it but she must have stole things from her friends in the past. Are there any police records on her like shop lifting? She probably "borrowed" money from her many men friends in the past.


I think that it was stated on here that Casey had a juvenile record but it was sealed? Not sure what it was about though.

I am with you, I think that she has been doing this for years and mommy and daddy just looked the other way or bailed her out.

I feel that she has never had to face up to anything that she has done, so she is a product of how the Anthony's raised her. JMO, of course.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 02:26 PM
Does anyone here know if there would be some psychology behind Casey seemingly having a problem with her relationship with George who was in LE, and her dating one cop after the other? Not suggesting anything abuse wise between her and George, just that she is trying to 'fix' that relationship?

I hope I am clear.

Joan Weiss
09-19-2008, 02:26 PM
I wonder why Casey just started stealing checks and charging things to other people. I can't believe she has not done this in the past and no one noticed. I think the As would overlook it but she must have stole things from her friends in the past. Are there any police records on her like shop lifting? She probably "borrowed" money from her many men friends in the past.She used Cindy's money in the past, according to her. I think after Caylee disappeared, she was getting money from wherever, a freak out, imo. She needed big bucks to go to CA. IIRC, she told Tony she needed a "back-up plan," when he asked her why she stole from Amy. imo

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 02:28 PM
Does anyone here know if there would be some psychology behind Casey seemingly having a problem with her relationship with George who was in LE, and her dating one cop after the other? Not suggesting anything abuse wise between her and George, just that she is trying to 'fix' that relationship?

I hope I am clear.


Or trying really hard to please her daddy by dating someone like him? Interesting question Armchairdet.

n/t
09-19-2008, 02:29 PM
The police have said that Casey holds all the answers. I'm dreaming that Baez will drop this case, as soon as the going gets tough. He's not experienced enough, imo.

Didn't he already represent a defendent in a child murder case and lost?

Joan Weiss
09-19-2008, 02:30 PM
Does anyone here know if there would be some psychology behind Casey seemingly having a problem with her relationship with George who was in LE, and her dating one cop after the other? Not suggesting anything abuse wise between her and George, just that she is trying to 'fix' that relationship?

I hope I am clear.Yes, imo, that's very possible. I don't know if she was trying to "fix" anything. Girls often marry someone like their father, with the expectation that the guy will perform in the marriage just like their father did in his. Their life therefore, stays the same. Nothing wrong with that, unless the father was a jerk. imo

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 02:31 PM
Or trying really hard to please her daddy by dating someone like him? Interesting question Armchairdet.

Yes, perhaps trying to please him. Maybe he expressed disappointment in her? More so than Cindy did? Over the pregnancy (not the baby) not graduating, stealing, etc.

Joan Weiss
09-19-2008, 02:32 PM
Didn't he already represent a defendent in a child murder case and lost?I recall something like that, but not the details.

I gotta go, my friends are calling to see if I'm OK, lol...

Off this d@mn 'puter! :seeya:

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 02:32 PM
Someone needs to build a super duper turnstile for this chick! SHEESH! Thanks for keeping us updated! :seeya:


Or just stop bonding her out and leave her sorry butt in jail. JMO.

Boxer
09-19-2008, 02:33 PM
Does anyone here know if there would be some psychology behind Casey seemingly having a problem with her relationship with George who was in LE, and her dating one cop after the other? Not suggesting anything abuse wise between her and George, just that she is trying to 'fix' that relationship?

I hope I am clear.


imo, it's probably the same psychology that possibly had Casey pulling the wings from flies and popping out her Chatty Cathy dolls little plastic eyeballs.....


she's egotistically ebil.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 02:33 PM
Yes, imo, that's very possible. I don't know if she was trying to "fix" anything. Girls often marry someone like their father, with the expectation that the guy will perform in the marriage just like their father did in his. Their life therefore, stays the same. Nothing wrong with that, unless the father was a jerk. imo

I understand how it usually works, just seems different to pick men like your dad if you don't like to be around him. Seems Casey indicated that.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 02:34 PM
imo, it's probably the same psychology that possibly had Casey pulling the wings from flies and popping out her Chatty Cathy dolls little plastic eyeballs.....


she's egotistically ebil.


Touche Boxer

Boxer
09-19-2008, 02:35 PM
Or maybe, just maybe, they should make sure they have enough evidence to convict as opposed to enough evidence to arrest.

And the law enforcement & the DA is doing exactly that.

They're making sure they have enough evidence to convict. And I'm quite happy about that. :)

I love your bold statements....lol:beer:

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 02:36 PM
imo, it's probably the same psychology that possibly had Casey pulling the wings from flies and popping out her Chatty Cathy dolls little plastic eyeballs.....


she's egotistically ebil.

I wouldn't make too much of George's former LE status. IIRC he was out of LE by the time Casey was 3. Hardly enough time for her to focus on men in uniforms. I think it stems more from there being no real authority in her household and the basic human need for structure and rules. IMO, that's why she sought out authority figures. Probably wrong but just thought I'd throw it out there. JMO.

eta - did she really pull the wings off of flies. Nevermind, IMO she did worse than that.

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 02:36 PM
Or just stop bonding her out and leave her sorry butt in jail. JMO.


I'll go for that! :beer:

Boxer
09-19-2008, 02:37 PM
Touche Boxer


lol, there did seem to be a change in demeanor yesterday though....I noticed it when they were leaving the house and Baez threw the car door at her.:D

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 02:37 PM
I supported Casey getting out of jail, so the family could have some time to get the truth from her.
It's painfully obvious now, however, that the truth is getting buried in the time that has gone by, and now it's all about defending Casey and seeing if the police are able to construct a case against her after a 31 day lag time of being informed that Caylee was missing.

I'm beyond disgusted.

n/t
09-19-2008, 02:37 PM
He did indeed.

What was the defense?

He blamed the mother.

Yes, I believe he tried to pin the crime on the mother. Wonder if he'll use the same strategy here. One of Casey's friends, a family member, the non existant kidnapper?

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 02:38 PM
I understand how it usually works, just seems different to pick men like your dad if you don't like to be around him. Seems Casey indicated that.


If you are referring to that myspace comment I think that was posted about the time that Caylee was celebrating her first b-day and George and Cindy were separated. IIRC, Casey and Caylee stayed with Cindy, George lived elsewhere. I think that is what caused the strain. JMO.

irishkitty24
09-19-2008, 02:38 PM
Brought over from the last thread:

Originally Posted by day2day
Grab the tissues.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...nelID=10472558
Caylee and Great Granpa-he is singing you are my sunshine to her..


Horrifyingly sad..........I should never have watched it.

giving my baby extra hugs and kisses right now.

Katprint
09-19-2008, 02:39 PM
I would just love for a Florida taxpayer to just (if s/he could somehow) stop paying taxes. :lol: Then again, I would also like for some sort of misfortune to befall Casey, but hey. We can't always get what we want.

I do pray though that they decide to put her in GP.

Wasn't tax evasion what Al Capone was finally convicted of? Here's a scenario to consider: After Casey is prosecuted for all the fraud/forgery/theft charges, then the feds prosecute her for failing to pay income taxes on her ill-gotten gains! :tongue:

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Boxer
09-19-2008, 02:39 PM
I wouldn't make too much of George's former LE status. IIRC he was out of LE by the time Casey was 3. Hardly enough time for her to focus on men in uniforms. I think it stems more from there being no real authority in her household and the basic human need for structure and rules. IMO, that's why she sought out authority figures. Probably wrong but just thought I'd throw it out there. JMO.

eta - did she really pull the wings off of flies. Nevermind, IMO she did worse than that.



I don't think she's afraid of LE at all. I just think she's afraid of the end result of her actions...that being a zero bar from the vending machine on visiting day.

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 02:40 PM
I wouldn't make too much of George's former LE status. IIRC he was out of LE by the time Casey was 3. Hardly enough time for her to focus on men in uniforms. I think it stems more from there being no real authority in her household and the basic human need for structure and rules. IMO, that's why she sought out authority figures. Probably wrong but just thought I'd throw it out there. JMO.

eta - did she really pull the wings off of flies. Nevermind, IMO she did worse than that.


I think Cindy totally rules that household. George was the one who filed for divorce not Cindy. I think Casey both loves and hates George at the same time. He didn't protect her from Cindy but he did care about the kids. Who knows. I'm just guessing but something about Cindy does not sit well with me.

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 02:42 PM
I supported Casey getting out of jail, so the family could have some time to get the truth from her.
It's painfully obvious now, however, that the truth is getting buried in the time that has gone by, and now it's all about defending Casey and seeing if the police are able to construct a case against her after a 31 day lag time of being informed that Caylee was missing.

I'm beyond disgusted.

I think Casey knows what happened and the gp's want her out of jail so we won't break down and talk. They want to control her at home.

101Spots
09-19-2008, 02:42 PM
Didn't he already represent a defendent in a child murder case and lost?

Yes, a man. Ironically, Baez argued that the woman in the case didn't sound distraught enough in her phone calls. Well, the shoe's on the other foot now!

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 02:43 PM
lol, there did seem to be a change in demeanor yesterday though....I noticed it when they were leaving the house and Baez threw the car door at her.:D

And, he didn't have a tie or a jacket on. He was pizzed, IMO. I'm just not sure if he was more pizzed at Casey's sudden ability to call 911 or the article about his less than stellar experience as a defense attorney. JMO.

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 02:43 PM
Carry on ladies and gents, :seeya:


You started this thread just in time. I we can all catch up now maybe. Ya'll are fast.


Thanks Pop

bookie
09-19-2008, 02:44 PM
Hmmm...no mention of the bat on the incident report. Why am I not surprised? I saw the bat on the video.

If I were the Anthony's, I wouldn't carry anything that the adversary could take away and use on them. jmo



The officer reviewed the video so I'm sure s/he saw the bat. S/he noted that the protesters were on the Anthony's private property and even mentioned the no trespassing signs so I doubt the bat will come into play when/if the protesters are arrested for battery.

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 02:44 PM
I don't think she's afraid of LE at all. I just think she's afraid of the end result of her actions...that being a zero bar from the vending machine on visiting day.


IMO, she doesn't fear LE because she had a 31 day head start on them. She knows that garbage container was dumped and tons of garbage dumped on top of the contents for weeks before LE was involved.

She thinks she's beautiful, hot, attractive and that men love her. She's too cute and too vulnerable to go to jail.

JMHO

Boxer
09-19-2008, 02:45 PM
And, he didn't have a tie or a jacket on. He was pizzed, IMO. I'm just not sure if he was more pizzed at Casey's sudden ability to call 911 or the article about his less than stellar experience as a defense attorney. JMO.

he's trying coach, he's just not that great of a defensive lie backer

Katprint
09-19-2008, 02:45 PM
Brought over from the last thread:

Originally Posted by day2day
Grab the tissues.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...nelID=10472558
Caylee and Great Granpa-he is singing you are my sunshine to her..
I signed into myspace but this link isn't taking me where I need to go.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 02:45 PM
I'm thinking there's a good cross-reference of vocations represented in her quests.

Well if that wasn't PC of you. :D

I'm sure your right. I suppose I have not been 'busy' enough in my much longer life to have racked up several cops, so it seemed odd.

day2day
09-19-2008, 02:45 PM
And, he didn't have a tie or a jacket on. He was pizzed, IMO. I'm just not sure if he was more pizzed at Casey's sudden ability to call 911 or the article about his less than stellar experience as a defense attorney. JMO.

He was pizzed. He is slipping. Casey might not be caving in, but it seems like HE is making many mistakes.
Missed a sentencing hearing.
Flubbed up on a motion.
His "girl" made that call to 911...
His WIFE probly let him sleep on her sofa...


k-a-r-m-a...


jmo

babblefishie
09-19-2008, 02:46 PM
And, he didn't have a tie or a jacket on. He was pizzed, IMO. I'm just not sure if he was more pizzed at Casey's sudden ability to call 911 or the article about his less than stellar experience as a defense attorney. JMO.

If his wife is a normal, warm blooded human being, then he likely got an earful before heading out to pick her up too. There's only so much whispering she can handle. He KNOWS it looks bad too. Also we've seen how demanding the Anthony's can be when they feel under pressure. I'm sure they're making all sorts of commands, demands, reprimands all the time. :rolleyes:

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 02:46 PM
I supported Casey getting out of jail, so the family could have some time to get the truth from her.
It's painfully obvious now, however, that the truth is getting buried in the time that has gone by, and now it's all about defending Casey and seeing if the police are able to construct a case against her after a 31 day lag time of being informed that Caylee was missing.

I'm beyond disgusted.

I support anyone exercising their constitutional rights. But what is your position now, besides being disgusted. Do you realize tha bonding Casey out was only to her advantage and not to get to the truth of what she did with Caylee? JMO.

deep*fear
09-19-2008, 02:46 PM
I just can't do it. I want to, but can't. I will start sobbing and won't be able to stop. :(

(((spirit)))) I'm not looking either

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 02:48 PM
Wasn't tax evasion what Al Capone was finally convicted of? Here's a scenario to consider: After Casey is prosecuted for all the fraud/forgery/theft charges, then the feds prosecute her for failing to pay income taxes on her ill-gotten gains! :tongue:

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

You are correct and he died in a prison in FL (ironic) of syphilis of the brain. Deja vu, is that what you're thinking???:eek:

Heyes
09-19-2008, 02:50 PM
Ok, seriously this is bugging me. This is just another example of the Anthony's believing rules don't apply to them. After all the noise made by the HOA about protesters blocking the streets. News vans parked so emergency vehicles or even trash pick up can't get through. George has parked his car and the trailer out in the street blocking the driveway. I am guessing they are exempt from the complaints?
sorry to harp but sheeeeeesh!

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 02:50 PM
I support anyone exercising their constitutional rights. But what is your position now, besides being disgusted. Do you realize tha bonding Casey out was only to her advantage and not to get to the truth of what she did with Caylee? JMO.


My position now is that she belongs in jail.

Her child is missing. She was the last one to be in charge of her. She can't produce the people that she says were in charge of Caylee last. No One in her life can verify these people existed. We have trained dogs alerting. We have the Body Farm conclusions. We have her lying to LE.

I want charges filed and her hiney in jail.

Heyes
09-19-2008, 02:51 PM
LOL right after I hit submit..poof the trailer was gone.

Never mind!

day2day
09-19-2008, 02:52 PM
:lol: I *can't* say what I really think about her or your monitor will melt.

Shes rich..she can afford another one! :shrug:

Have you heard anything about Det Yuri today?

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 02:52 PM
I supported Casey getting out of jail, so the family could have some time to get the truth from her.
It's painfully obvious now, however, that the truth is getting buried in the time that has gone by, and now it's all about defending Casey and seeing if the police are able to construct a case against her after a 31 day lag time of being informed that Caylee was missing.

I'm beyond disgusted.
How could they get the truth out of her, they aren't even allowed to talk about Caylee being missing with her.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 02:52 PM
I think Cindy totally rules that household. George was the one who filed for divorce not Cindy. I think Casey both loves and hates George at the same time. He didn't protect her from Cindy but he did care about the kids. Who knows. I'm just guessing but something about Cindy does not sit well with me.

ITA. Cindy creeps me out. There is just something a little sociopathic about her, too. IMO.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 02:53 PM
:lol: I *can't* say what I really think about her or your monitor will melt.

Grandma use to say to hold a quarter between your knees...

Well I could pm explanations, but I guess Casey did not do this, probably would have stolen the quarter anyway.

OneUp
09-19-2008, 02:53 PM
I just can't do it. I want to, but can't. I will start sobbing and won't be able to stop. :(I understand SW46. Once I saw the younger pics. of Caylee and noticed she looked alot like my 18 month old ( don't most girls look similar around that age though?:) )...I just have had the hardest time seeing her little face. I couldn't watch a memorial style video like some people online havecreated...and singing "You are my Sunshine" with G-Gpa is something too poignant for me to watch. I know it has to be so very sweet! My grandpa's both loved my little one so much!
I have been mainly reading on this case anyway, the adults present grate on my nerves so badly that I can't stand the sound of their voices...
JMO.

snowflakes
09-19-2008, 02:53 PM
First I thought he was angry at the Anthonys. Then the article came out about all his bumbling and bungling of this case and another. So then I thought it was probably the article. It's probably a combination of things.

Whatever works. :D

I sure don't want him to drop Casey as a client.
I'm afraid that it's possible that an excellent criminal defense attorney would take her on and she's eventually WALK.:eek:

day2day
09-19-2008, 02:54 PM
My position now is that she belongs in jail.

Her child is missing. She was the last one to be in charge of her. She can't produce the people that she says were in charge of Caylee last. No One in her life can verify these people existed. We have trained dogs alerting. We have the Body Farm conclusions. We have her lying to LE.

I want charges filed and her hiney in jail.

You can sit next to me if you wanna! I feel the very same way. And all the other things that are happening are just smoke and mirrors. Caylee is put on the back burner to the protesters. Makes me physically ill.

jmo

Heyes
09-19-2008, 02:54 PM
When I watch that video, i close my eyes and visualize him swinging his brief case and smacking her in the back of the head with it. Makes me happy.

I like that visual.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 02:54 PM
Shes rich..she can afford another one! :shrug:

Have you heard anything about Det Yuri today?



I'm rich?? Ok.

I just turned on local news. Will post if I hear anything.

BJames
09-19-2008, 02:54 PM
Day 95

Where is Caylee Anthony?



(I sound like a broken record)

need2no
09-19-2008, 02:54 PM
ITA. Cindy creeps me out. There is just something a little sociopathic about her, too. IMO.


"a little" ??? :biggrin:

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 02:55 PM
Bill boards gone, George must be out driving and searching.:rolleyes:

Brattnt
09-19-2008, 02:55 PM
I signed into myspace but this link isn't taking me where I need to go.Try this link KatPrint...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.Channel&ChannelID=10472558

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 02:56 PM
I sure don't want him to drop Casey as a client.
I'm afraid that it's possible that an excellent criminal defense attorney would take her on and she's eventually WALK.:eek:

I think so too. Remember the family of the man that shot his wife and put her body in the dumpster, and then ran around naked trying to act insane? Remember his family?
They stepped up, told him to be a man and tell the truth. I respected them.

I want the Anthony's to do that right now!

day2day
09-19-2008, 02:57 PM
I'm rich?? Ok.

I just turned on local news. Will post if I hear anything.

**shhh..just wanted to hear the monitor melting words..lol!!
Thanks for keepin us up to date!

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 02:57 PM
You can sit next to me if you wanna! I feel the very same way. And all the other things that are happening are just smoke and mirrors. Caylee is put on the back burner to the protesters. Makes me physically ill.

jmo


Me too. And the lying mother of this child may walk.

crymeariver2006
09-19-2008, 02:57 PM
I don't think she's afraid of LE at all. I just think she's afraid of the end result of her actions...that being a zero bar from the vending machine on visiting day.


Do they still make Zero bars?

The only bars she should have are the ones surrounding her 7 X 5 cell.

True2Blues
09-19-2008, 02:58 PM
Incident Report (http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547)- Battery
Taser Incident Report

I knew this kind of thing would happen if they brought the Guardian Angels into this.

Mairi II
09-19-2008, 02:58 PM
For a grandpa to be singing You Are My Sunshine to his only grandchild - well, touching to say the very least. I didn't see the video (nor do I especially want to). What doesn't make sense is that this same grandpa is protecting the very person who snuffed the sunshine from his darling granddaughter's life! The only way his protection of Casey makes any sense is that he (and Cindy) actually believe her. So they sympathize with her. I think if Casey 'fessed up to them, they would encourage her (like any good parents would) to stand up and take responsibility for it. But unless and until Casey is truthful with them, they'll defend her to their death - and Casey knows it.

True2Blues
09-19-2008, 02:59 PM
Do they still make Zero bars?

The only bars she should have are the ones surrounding her 7 X 5 cell.


They do still make them, though they aren't always easy to find.

Sorry O/T

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:00 PM
IMO, she doesn't fear LE because she had a 31 day head start on them. She knows that garbage container was dumped and tons of garbage dumped on top of the contents for weeks before LE was involved.

She thinks she's beautiful, hot, attractive and that men love her. She's too cute and too vulnerable to go to jail.JMHO

You know, I've heard this just about enough. OK, she's not ugly, but she's no beauty either. One look into those eyes and she suddenly becomes a very ugly person. Just look at her next to the other women in the photos, she can't hold a candle. It's JMO but I'm tired of hearing she's beautiful, cute, attractive, etc. She's not ugly on the outside but she is grotesque through and through. JMO.

Heyes
09-19-2008, 03:00 PM
Visualize him knocking her sombrero off.

lol yup
;)

crymeariver2006
09-19-2008, 03:00 PM
Bill boards gone, George must be out driving and searching.:rolleyes:

Maybe he's gone to pick up the 3 searchers and take them to Mexico?

:shrug:

Or he's gonna make Casey ride home in the car while he's towing that billboard?

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 03:00 PM
(((spirit)))) I'm not looking either

((((Deep*frear))))...hugs back at ya and for all those that did watch the video. What a horrible shame this all is.

Said it once and I will say it again....the devil himself has a chair at his right side and this is reserved for one Casey Anthony. Who just MAY be in line to take HIS job! :flamemad:

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 03:00 PM
I think so too. Remember the family of the man that shot his wife and put her body in the dumpster, and then ran around naked trying to act insane? Remember his family?
They stepped up, told him to be a man and tell the truth. I respected them.

I want the Anthony's to do that right now!

I do remember, was that Mark Hackings?

Rebel Rouzer
09-19-2008, 03:00 PM
Day 95

Where is Caylee Anthony?



(I sound like a broken record)

lol I think we all do :seeya:

day2day
09-19-2008, 03:00 PM
Me too. And the lying mother of this child may walk.

I really REALLY hope you are wrong. I have this awful feeling that she could be pregnant.

jmo..

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:00 PM
he's trying coach, he's just not that great of a defensive lie backer

:lol: Enough now, stop it. My tummy hurts. Lie backer, that's a good one.

need2no
09-19-2008, 03:01 PM
For a grandpa to be singing You Are My Sunshine to his only grandchild - well, touching to say the very least. I didn't see the video (nor do I especially want to). What doesn't make sense is that this same grandpa is protecting the very person who snuffed the sunshine from his darling granddaughter's life! The only way his protection of Casey makes any sense is that he (and Cindy) actually believe her. So they sympathize with her. I think if Casey 'fessed up to them, they would encourage her (like any good parents would) to stand up and take responsibility for it. But unless and until Casey is truthful with them, they'll defend her to their death - and Casey knows it.


The video is Caylee's GREAT grandpa...Cindy's father, singing to Caylee at the AL facility on Father's Day.

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 03:01 PM
I think the only chance LE has of Casey leading them to Caylee's body is for them to give her a good DP scare and negotiate. Time is not on their side. It's on Casey's.


Each day that passes is good for Casey.

Mairi II
09-19-2008, 03:02 PM
You know, I've heard this just about enough. OK, she's not ugly, but she's no beauty either. One look into those eyes and she suddenly becomes a very ugly person. Just look at her next to the other women in the photos, she can't hold a candle. It's JMO but I'm tired of hearing she's beautiful, cute, attractive, etc. She's not ugly on the outside but she is grotesque through and through. JMO.

Yeah, but SHE (Casey) thinks she is. And of course men dig her... she's so easy she'd look like a porcupine if she had as many quills sticking out of her as she's had in her.

crymeariver2006
09-19-2008, 03:02 PM
For a grandpa to be singing You Are My Sunshine to his only grandchild - well, touching to say the very least. I didn't see the video (nor do I especially want to). What doesn't make sense is that this same grandpa is protecting the very person who snuffed the sunshine from his darling granddaughter's life! The only way his protection of Casey makes any sense is that he (and Cindy) actually believe her. So they sympathize with her. I think if Casey 'fessed up to them, they would encourage her (like any good parents would) to stand up and take responsibility for it. But unless and until Casey is truthful with them, they'll defend her to their death - and Casey knows it.

It's the great grandfather. The one Cindy and Caylee visited at the nursing home on Father's Day.

Not George.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:02 PM
I signed into myspace but this link isn't taking me where I need to go.


It worked for me an while ago but not now. I guess they do read hear. It's been taken down, maybe? I just don't know.

desmom
09-19-2008, 03:02 PM
How could they get the truth out of her, they aren't even allowed to talk about Caylee being missing with her.


Afternoon All!

I would not give one iota what the lawyer said, aren't even allowed would not be happening in my house. My house, my rules. If my 3 year old granddaughter was missing, my daughter would be singing or she would be on the streets. Tough love!

In the very beginning, George & Cindy appeared to be cooperating with LE. Sometime around the bond hearing, their attitudes changed. I think Baez told them if LE could prove Casey was involved in Caylee's death, she would be looking at the DP or life.

jmo

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:02 PM
For a grandpa to be singing You Are My Sunshine to his only grandchild - well, touching to say the very least. I didn't see the video (nor do I especially want to). What doesn't make sense is that this same grandpa is protecting the very person who snuffed the sunshine from his darling granddaughter's life! The only way his protection of Casey makes any sense is that he (and Cindy) actually believe her. So they sympathize with her. I think if Casey 'fessed up to them, they would encourage her (like any good parents would) to stand up and take responsibility for it. But unless and until Casey is truthful with them, they'll defend her to their death - and Casey knows it.


It wasn't George. It was the Great Grandpa. My heart breaks for him and Caylee. The rest of the Anthony's can rot.

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 03:03 PM
I do remember, was that Mark Hackings?


Yes. That family did the right thing.

Time for the Anthony's to do the same.

Mairi II
09-19-2008, 03:03 PM
The video is Caylee's GREAT grandpa...Cindy's father, singing to Caylee at the AL facility on Father's Day.

Okay, nevermind. :o

Heyes
09-19-2008, 03:03 PM
You know, I've heard this just about enough. OK, she's not ugly, but she's no beauty either. One look into those eyes and she suddenly becomes a very ugly person. Just look at her next to the other women in the photos, she can't hold a candle. It's JMO but I'm tired of hearing she's beautiful, cute, attractive, etc. She's not ugly on the outside but she is grotesque through and through. JMO.



Beautiful? No, I don't think so. Easy? Yeah probably. Explains her many invites to these fun little, show your rear party's, that she so enjoys.
:eek:

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:03 PM
Does anyone here know if there would be some psychology behind Casey seemingly having a problem with her relationship with George who was in LE, and her dating one cop after the other? Not suggesting anything abuse wise between her and George, just that she is trying to 'fix' that relationship?

I hope I am clear.IDK about her having problems with him. I view it more that George was her "hero" growing up, and she has transferred in her mind the love and security she found in her father onto men who remind her of him ( I.E. LE). This is not unusual for any girl to do, but Casey ( as in many things) has acted more extremely on this "electra complex".
I think their relationship was once a joy and comfort to both, and they maybe sometimes saw things as "us" against "mom" who is more rigid and controlling and less of a buddy IMO. Growing up itself, as well the the introduction of Caylee to the family created a shift in this father daughter closeness. Combine that with George's maritial troubles (if true) which would ruin Casey's image of how wonderful he is, and in someone as immature as Casey it creates a good deal of resentment towards George for "failing" her...and towards Caylee, her replacement (in Casey's mind).
Simplified , but all IMO true.

crymeariver2006
09-19-2008, 03:03 PM
As well they shoud be, since they are the homeowners.
:no:


They are not exempt from HOA regulations. That's why the billboard was towed off by the HOA the first time he parked it on the sidewalk.

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 03:04 PM
You know, I've heard this just about enough. OK, she's not ugly, but she's no beauty either. One look into those eyes and she suddenly becomes a very ugly person. Just look at her next to the other women in the photos, she can't hold a candle. It's JMO but I'm tired of hearing she's beautiful, cute, attractive, etc. She's not ugly on the outside but she is grotesque through and through. JMO.

Given the list of men she's potentially "entertained", she has reason to believe that she's mighty attractive to men, in general.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:05 PM
LOL right after I hit submit..poof the trailer was gone.

Never mind!


Maybe just more proof they do read these boards:shrug:

crymeariver2006
09-19-2008, 03:05 PM
Yeah, but SHE (Casey) thinks she is. And of course men dig her... she's so easy she'd look like a porcupine if she had as many pricker things sticking out of her as she's had in her.

Oh my!

:eek:

Mairi II
09-19-2008, 03:05 PM
:eek: You know you owe some people monitors, don't you? :eek:

I didn't know what else to call those... things... that stick out of porcupines. :chicken:

day2day
09-19-2008, 03:06 PM
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.Channel&ChannelID=10472558

here is the working link (i hope)
greatgrandpa singing to Caylee-You are MY Sunshine...

please grab the tissues....

SavannahStar
09-19-2008, 03:06 PM
I really REALLY hope you are wrong. I have this awful feeling that she could be pregnant.

jmo..

:confused: Why do you think that? I've seen this brought up before. Unless she got pregnant right before she got arrested, she might be showing at least a little by now. I noticed her t-shirt/jeans a day or two ago and she looks skinny as a rail. I don't think she's pregnant.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:07 PM
How could they get the truth out of her, they aren't even allowed to talk about Caylee being missing with her.


I find that beyond belief. How can they NOT talk about Caylee. Her room is in tact, the protesters are there everynight and I'm sure everytime they tune in to TV they hear about it. I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY DO NOT DISCUSS CAYLEE. JMO. If I did believe that I would go stark raving mad. JMO.

AMS
09-19-2008, 03:08 PM
2 new OSCO reports linked. Taser incident and battery.

http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547

Heyes
09-19-2008, 03:09 PM
As well they shoud be, since they are the homeowners.


:no:

Are you wagging your finger at little ole me?
It's the trailer that is bothering me. IMO they are using Caylee. Where is that trailer the rest of the week?
I guess it wouldn't have bothered me so much if those crazy parents would quit BS'ing us about this. They want us to look for that baby but they won't tell anyone where to look. Who does that?
Leads in PR but can't disclose anything about where or who....but we should be off our arses looking??? Does this make sense to you?

crymeariver2006
09-19-2008, 03:09 PM
I didn't know what else to call those... things... that stick out of porcupines. :chicken:


Quills

(I think)

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:09 PM
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.Channel&ChannelID=10472558

here is the working link (i hope)
greatgrandpa singing to Caylee-You are MY Sunshine...

please grab the tissues....


What a little darlin' she is. She was holding on tight to her great grandpa.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:10 PM
Day 95

Where is Caylee Anthony?



(I sound like a broken record)


Not really. You don't skip. Everyday the number goes up and that is just so sad, IMO.

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 03:10 PM
Afternoon All!

I would not give one iota what the lawyer said, aren't even allowed would not be happening in my house. My house, my rules. If my 3 year old granddaughter was missing, my daughter would be singing or she would be on the streets. Tough love!

In the very beginning, George & Cindy appeared to be cooperating with LE. Sometime around the bond hearing, their attitudes changed. I think Baez told them if LE could prove Casey was involved in Caylee's death, she would be looking at the DP or life.

jmo
Oh don't think I don't agree with you, If I was Cindy I would have Casey singing like a bird. They need to learn to make life less comfortable for her.

bookie
09-19-2008, 03:10 PM
I knew this kind of thing would happen if they brought the Guardian Angels into this.


Those people had NO business going to that neighborhood with a taser. It isn't the Guardian Angels fault....it's theirs. :rolleyes:

Mairi II
09-19-2008, 03:11 PM
Quills

(I think)

Thanks!! I was drawing a mental blank.

SavannahStar
09-19-2008, 03:11 PM
I find that beyond belief. How can they NOT talk about Caylee. Her room is in tact, the protesters are there everynight and I'm sure everytime they tune in to TV they hear about it. I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY DO NOT DISCUSS CAYLEE. JMO. If I did believe that I would go stark raving mad. JMO.


I wouldn't let anything in this case drive me stark raving mad, but I agree with you....I find it very, very difficult to believe they are do not talk about Caylee and this case.

msgatorslayer
09-19-2008, 03:11 PM
She used Cindy's money in the past, according to her. I think after Caylee disappeared, she was getting money from wherever, a freak out, imo. She needed big bucks to go to CA. IIRC, she told Tony she needed a "back-up plan," when he asked her why she stole from Amy. imo

I don't think she had Cindy's CC's when she left home. Cindy's myspace poem mentions 'no money, no future, etc'. I think Cindy was talking about the theft on her parents when she called 911 and mentioned she had banking records and wanted Casey arrested for theft. She says, and Casey says, she stole lots of money from Cindy through the years. IMO, it wasn't really stealing. Cindy allowed her to. Just like the car that Cindy was willing to report stolen.

Once Casey was out on her own - she literally had nothing. She couldn't come clean to anyone that she didn't have a penny to her name. Had to keep up her glamorous image. So she started stealing whatever she could get her hands on. She was probably desperate when she stole Amy's checks. Cause she had to have known she wouldn't get away with that. IMO

day2day
09-19-2008, 03:12 PM
:confused: Why do you think that? I've seen this brought up before. Unless she got pregnant right before she got arrested, she might be showing at least a little by now. I noticed her t-shirt/jeans a day or two ago and she looks skinny as a rail. I don't think she's pregnant.

I just have a feeling?!! Not that she looks pregnant. It just scares me that a person can lose a littleone one day and have another in nine months. Maybe i just think about Caylee too much :(....

I pray that you are right.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:12 PM
Visualize him knocking her sombrero off.


And her falling on her scrawny butt when she loses balance in those wooden clogs. IMO.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 03:12 PM
Quills, I think, but I also think you're on the right track, lol.

Quills? IMO

I could have sworn that said something different. LOL

Yes quills is correct.

Pebbles
09-19-2008, 03:12 PM
I supported Casey getting out of jail, so the family could have some time to get the truth from her.
It's painfully obvious now, however, that the truth is getting buried in the time that has gone by, and now it's all about defending Casey and seeing if the police are able to construct a case against her after a 31 day lag time of being informed that Caylee was missing.

I'm beyond disgusted.




:beer: I totally agree with your post.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:13 PM
She's just trying to get me in BIG trouble!!:chicken:


I somehow think you're capable of doing that yourself:D

trich
09-19-2008, 03:13 PM
Ok, seriously this is bugging me. This is just another example of the Anthony's believing rules don't apply to them. After all the noise made by the HOA about protesters blocking the streets. News vans parked so emergency vehicles or even trash pick up can't get through. George has parked his car and the trailer out in the street blocking the driveway. I am guessing they are exempt from the complaints?
sorry to harp but sheeeeeesh!



Also he has a complaint filed against him for pushing that old lady and that young guy the other day,,,I think it was last week sometime .
That is on video also.
Amazing that they can do it but no one else should do it to them.
I don't approve of either but I call it tit for tat.

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:13 PM
I understand how it usually works, just seems different to pick men like your dad if you don't like to be around him. Seems Casey indicated that.
Sometimes, when we have "issues" with someone, we choose the same type over and over in an atempt to redo the mistakes and hurt in the past...hoping for a different outcome. If we ( the individual) progress via therapy or independant growth, this works and allows us to put the past issue behind us. More often it puts people in a viscious cycle of doing the same thing, the same way, with the same type of people over, and over.
Think of how so many abused women leave their abuser, only to find someone just like the one in the past. This occurs because they have not progessed enough to resolve the issues that brought them to that sort of personality in the first place. Now, I'm not saying ALL abused spouses have major "issues" when they first enter a relationship ( batterers, for example, are often terrific Prince Charmings in the courtship phase of a relationship...much like sociopaths), but being in a relationship like that will give you a handful!
JMO.

irishkitty24
09-19-2008, 03:14 PM
Not really. You don't skip. Everyday the number goes up and that is just so sad, IMO.



ita..

What is awful is that even if she miraculously turns up alive the story will not be really happy. She will go back to a family that clearly has issues.

I wish I could hold her in my arms and let her feel safe and loved. At least she will be in our hearts and prayers.

:rose:

st777jo
09-19-2008, 03:14 PM
Quills

(I think)

I like the other word. It fits in with my feeling of Casey, jmo

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:14 PM
Maybe he's gone to pick up the 3 searchers and take them to Mexico?

:shrug:

Or he's gonna make Casey ride home in the car while he's towing that billboard?

Did she go to Baez' office today? I must've missed that. I guess tomorrow she'll bring her beach bag and picnic basket. Geez. If you're Casey Anthony it pays to lose your child or so it would seem.:flamemad:

day2day
09-19-2008, 03:15 PM
She's just trying to get me in BIG trouble!!:chicken:

I guess you can't see my halo from where you are sitting!!
Have you heard any news about Det. Yuri today? (noone is answerin me and i am too lazy to google)

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:15 PM
It looked to me like she was listening to his heart beat. I couldn't watch the whole thing. :(


Now that you mention it. I guess it does look like that. She just looked so at peace w/the great grandpa.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 03:15 PM
Sometimes, when we have "issues" with someone, we choose the same type over and over in an atempt to redo the mistakes and hurt in the past...hoping for a different outcome. If we ( the individual) progress via therapy or independant growth, this works and allows us to put the past issue behind us. More often it puts people in a viscious cycle of doing the same thing, the same way, with the same type of people over, and over.
Think of how so many abused women leave their abuser, only to find someone just like the one in the past. This occurs because they have not progessed enough to resolve the issues that brought them to that sort of personality in the first place. Now, I'm not saying ALL abused spouses have major "issues" when they first enter a relationship ( batterers, for example, are often terrific Prince Charmings in the courtship phase of a relationship...much like sociopaths), but being in a relationship like that will give you a handful!
JMO.


Thank you very interesting.

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 03:15 PM
:confused: Why do you think that? I've seen this brought up before. Unless she got pregnant right before she got arrested, she might be showing at least a little by now. I noticed her t-shirt/jeans a day or two ago and she looks skinny as a rail. I don't think she's pregnant.

When I saw the video of her yesterday I thought she looked very thin.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:15 PM
((((Deep*frear))))...hugs back at ya and for all those that did watch the video. What a horrible shame this all is.

Said it once and I will say it again....the devil himself has a chair at his right side and this is reserved for one Casey Anthony. Who just MAY be in line to take HIS job! :flamemad:

You're a little behind the times, my dear! I hear the devil is in FL collecting unemployment. JMO.

day2day
09-19-2008, 03:16 PM
I understand your concern. It's a worst case scenario in an ongoing nightmare full of horrific scenarios.

That would be the last straw for me. I don't think I could handle it.
:(

Heyes
09-19-2008, 03:17 PM
I wouldn't let anything in this case drive me stark raving mad, but I agree with you....I find it very, very difficult to believe they are do not talk about Caylee and this case.



Yeah me too. I don't think their talking includes getting the truth out of her though. I think is more of a pow wow of how to get her out of this mess.
Like the vandersloots with their little meetings reminding the suspects that... "If there's no body, there's no case".

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:17 PM
I supported Casey getting out of jail, so the family could have some time to get the truth from her.
It's painfully obvious now, however, that the truth is getting buried in the time that has gone by, and now it's all about defending Casey and seeing if the police are able to construct a case against her after a 31 day lag time of being informed that Caylee was missing.

I'm beyond disgusted.Join the club D. It's a rather large one.

I keep saying about all the adults in this case, I do judge people, but based upon their actions...not things like their appearances. That is because I am Human...and we like to interpret the behaviors of others so we know where we stand...it's a survival instinct to determine if we can trust someone or if we cannot. Some peoples instinct to ferret out worrisome behavior is sharper than that of others.
JMO.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:18 PM
:eek: You know you owe some people monitors, don't you? :eek:

and keyboards, if I might say!!!:D

desmom
09-19-2008, 03:19 PM
Everyone has their own opinions right? I never claimed to be a legal sleuth of sorts, and actually if I am just too simple and dumb to be here, then I am sorry, but you know what, I dont condone this mayhem that is going on at the Anthony house. None of us here know what the Anthonys want, or feel. You can assume, but thats all it is, but not every differing opinion means the person is out of touch and doesn't get things. There are lots of problems with this case and how the media, the Anthonys and the LE is handling it.

Oh, the car in George and Cindys and them going through it means they are hiding stuff, well Cindy asked if she could and the cops said OK! They also didn't seize the car for days after Cindy told them it smelled like a dead body was in there, what more could Cindy of done, draw a diagram of a car with fumes coming from the trunk?

I guess I always assumed that if a baby is reported missing and a car smells like death the LE wouldn't wait days to haul it in for forensics, or give the ok to have Cindy wash stuff out of it.

You are right, I don't understand LE at all!! hammer:cool:

Not days - approximately 24 hours after Cindy called LE to report a stolen car.

The car was released to LE on July 16, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. per George's signed a statement.

jmo

bballgrl
09-19-2008, 03:19 PM
Those people had NO business going to that neighborhood with a taser. It isn't the Guardian Angels fault....it's theirs. :rolleyes:

According to the report, he had the taser in his car for protection (not any less that a woman carrying a can of mace for protection) and he was in his own vehicle and was concerned when the 2 men angrily approached he and his wife sitting in there care. He took it out as a precaution. He did not use it on anyone and nobody can say that he intentionally brought it there to use it on anyone. He didn't even get out of his vehicle.... Geesh!

Mairi II
09-19-2008, 03:19 PM
Do you think Casey is ever left alone in the house now?

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 03:19 PM
You're a little behind the times, my dear! I hear the devil is in FL collecting unemployment. JMO.

Whoops! Thanks for letting me know! ;)

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:19 PM
I didn't know what else to call those... things... that stick out of porcupines. :chicken:


You might try to run a little faster, dear:chicken::chicken:

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 03:20 PM
Yeah, take her computer away, or something. But, I wonder if the cops have told Cindy and George to just let her feel comfy, dont complain about her computer use because maybe they are hoping she will lead them to something, so I honestly think thats why George and Cindy are treating Casey the way they are, its probably like egg shell central there. moo
I picture Casey spending what ever time she is home locked up in her room, I do wonder though if she watches NG with Cindy.

Cheri_G
09-19-2008, 03:20 PM
Afternoon All!

I would not give one iota what the lawyer said, aren't even allowed would not be happening in my house. My house, my rules. If my 3 year old granddaughter was missing, my daughter would be singing or she would be on the streets. Tough love!

In the very beginning, George & Cindy appeared to be cooperating with LE. Sometime around the bond hearing, their attitudes changed. I think Baez told them if LE could prove Casey was involved in Caylee's death, she would be looking at the DP or life.

jmo

Hi desmom,

I think on one level I think you're absolutely right. The lawyer's advice is to his client and should not stop George and Cindy pressing their daughter for answers. She may not give them, but Baez has no right, imo to tell them they can't talk to her about Caylee, he can only advise Casey not to talk to them.

I will say, having had to do it, kicking your child out of your home is hard. It goes against the grain and it hurts, even if its the right thing to do at the time. Our problem was my child was refusing to follow my rules (my house, my rules as you said) after making the threat it took me months of the rules being continually ignored and broke and repeating the threat to follow through. I cried every day from the day I did it until the day he came home and said "I get it now".

Whatever changed George and Cindy's attitude, I believe they are running fast and hard from what they think deep down inside has happened.

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:20 PM
Yes, a man. Ironically, Baez argued that the woman in the case didn't sound distraught enough in her phone calls. Well, the shoe's on the other foot now!...at least that poor childs mother made a phone call....
Baez makes me ill...every time I see him. It's a visceral reaction.
JMO...maybe others find him more appealing than I?

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:21 PM
My feeling is that she was a very sensitive little girl in the midst of a very insensitive family. Sort of a little worrier at times. Probably could feel the tension in the household. This is just my sense of her.

It's almost unbearable to try to take it all in.

If fathers's day was the day Cindy and her mother argued over Casey stealing money from ggp I shudder to think of what Caylee heard. No wonder she is holding on to ggp. He was probably the only one not screaming and fighting. She looks kinda sad to me with those beautiful big eyes of hers.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 03:21 PM
First I wrote "spines" then realized, "Doh!", and presto-chango.

Ok, I feel better now.

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:22 PM
My feeling is that she was a very sensitive little girl in the midst of a very insensitive family. Sort of a little worrier at times. Probably could feel the tension in the household. This is just my sense of her.

It's almost unbearable to try to take it all in.

Very sweet little girl. Did you get to see her give her great grandpa a kiss. No hesitation. She just did it.

SavannahStar
09-19-2008, 03:22 PM
...at least that poor childs mother made a phone call....
Baez makes me ill...every time I see him. It's a visceral reaction.
JMO...maybe others find him more appealing than I?

I don't find him appealing or not appealing. Neutral really. He's just an attorney doing his job. I try not to transfer my feelings about Casey to everyone surrounding her.

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:23 PM
I'm thinking there's a good cross-reference of vocations represented in her quests.:lol:
Plenty of room for everyone, right?

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:23 PM
I wouldn't let anything in this case drive me stark raving mad, but I agree with you....I find it very, very difficult to believe they are do not talk about Caylee and this case.


LOL. OH NO, I catching the Anthony disease of exagerating. I certainly wouldn't let anything drive me start raving mad, I think, can't be sure, maybe I'm there. :D

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 03:23 PM
Join the club D. It's a rather large one.

I keep saying about all the adults in this case, I do judge people, but based upon their actions...not things like their appearances. That is because I am Human...and we like to interpret the behaviors of others so we know where we stand...it's a survival instinct to determine if we can trust someone or if we cannot. Some peoples instinct to ferret out worrisome behavior is sharper than that of others.
JMO.

Hearing Casey's voice in the police interview was all I needed. I never heard her say what the script said that Zanny gave her. I never heard her say that Zanny threatened her and her family if she went to LE. I just heard a deadpan voice acknowledging her lies, acknowledging she tried to mislead them, but never once begging them to help her to locate her beloved child.

True2Blues
09-19-2008, 03:23 PM
The video is Caylee's GREAT grandpa...Cindy's father, singing to Caylee at the AL facility on Father's Day.


There are the Grandparents I feel so terribly sorry for. The Great Grandparents. The Gr. Grandfather is in a nursing home and trying to recover from a stroke and the Gr. Grandmother, trying to take care of him and not in perfect health herself.

Seeing how both their Daughter and Granddaughter are acting and with their Great Granddaughter missing, it has to be affecting them both physically and emotionally. God Bless them Both.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 03:24 PM
:lol:
Plenty of room for everyone, right?


A butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker, et al

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:25 PM
I don't think she had Cindy's CC's when she left home. Cindy's myspace poem mentions 'no money, no future, etc'. I think Cindy was talking about the theft on her parents when she called 911 and mentioned she had banking records and wanted Casey arrested for theft. She says, and Casey says, she stole lots of money from Cindy through the years. IMO, it wasn't really stealing. Cindy allowed her to. Just like the car that Cindy was willing to report stolen.

Once Casey was out on her own - she literally had nothing. She couldn't come clean to anyone that she didn't have a penny to her name. Had to keep up her glamorous image. So she started stealing whatever she could get her hands on. She was probably desperate when she stole Amy's checks. Cause she had to have known she wouldn't get away with that. IMO

I still think she knew Amy would catch her and that Cindy would bail her out. I don't think she thought it would go this far. But hey, she didn't consider that people might be curious about what happened to Caylee either. Bad miscalculation on her part, IMO.

day2day
09-19-2008, 03:25 PM
...at least that poor childs mother made a phone call....
Baez makes me ill...every time I see him. It's a visceral reaction.
JMO...maybe others find him more appealing than I?

You aren't the only one he makes ill. I believe he is slipping. Casey is bad news.
jmo

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:25 PM
According to the report, he had the taser in his car for protection (not any less that a woman carrying a can of mace for protection) and he was in his own vehicle and was concerned when the 2 men angrily approached he and his wife sitting in there care. He took it out as a precaution. He did not use it on anyone and nobody can say that he intentionally brought it there to use it on anyone. He didn't even get out of his vehicle.... Geesh!

I can understand the whole protection thing, however, in my mind. Hitting the gas and getting out of there would have been a better choice.

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:25 PM
I'm pretty sure Casey was not present at the NH when the picture of GGP holding her was taken.


Right, but it was said that Cindy's mother wanted to press charges against Casey and Cindy talked her out of it. I image those two were fighting.

martha
09-19-2008, 03:25 PM
I can;t get the video of the gp singing wish I could. Caylee looks a little scared. she may have not been aroung him much. don;t know how long he has been in nh. Is casey at her lawyer office today? jmho:rose:

True2Blues
09-19-2008, 03:25 PM
Hearing Casey's voice in the police interview was all I needed. I never heard her say what the script said that Zanny gave her. I never heard her say that Zanny threatened her and her family if she went to LE. I just heard a deadpan voice acknowledging her lies, acknowledging she tried to mislead them, but never once begging them to help her to locate her beloved child.

Telling, isn't it?

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:27 PM
A butcher, a baker, a candlestick maker, et al

A marine, a cop then off to the tatoo shop:D

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:27 PM
I just have a feeling?!! Not that she looks pregnant. It just scares me that a person can lose a littleone one day and have another in nine months. Maybe i just think about Caylee too much :(....

I pray that you are right.


It's not a stretch. Diana Downs did the same thing. I posted it the other night and another poster put the clinical name to it. She may very well have run out and got herself pregnant. Who knows. She was 7 months pregnant with Caylee before anyone noticed, who's to say this time would be different. I actually lost 10 pound my first 3 months. JMO.

trt
09-19-2008, 03:27 PM
Not days - approximately 24 hours after Cindy called LE to report a stolen car.

The car was released to LE on July 16, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. per George's signed a statement.

jmo

Yep, and prior to that, they were escorting Casey on her wild goose chase for Zenaida.

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 03:28 PM
Right, but it was said that Cindy's mother wanted to press charges against Casey and Cindy talked her out of it. I image those two were fighting.

Didn't Cindy have to cash in some of her 401K to pay her mother back?

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:28 PM
Ok, seriously this is bugging me. This is just another example of the Anthony's believing rules don't apply to them. After all the noise made by the HOA about protesters blocking the streets. News vans parked so emergency vehicles or even trash pick up can't get through. George has parked his car and the trailer out in the street blocking the driveway. I am guessing they are exempt from the complaints?
sorry to harp but sheeeeeesh!
No, you're right. It's that nasty sense of entitlement. BOO I say to those who don't think Casey learned her tricks beginning at her mothers knee!
They have a special set of rules for the Anthony's and a whole other set of normal rules and laws for everyone else ( the "normal" ones of us?). I doubt they all suddenly came down with this behavior when Caylee went missing. Polite and well bred people continue to act polite and wellbred in general, even in times of great pain and stress IMO.
I say it is high time they are called to account each time they step over the bounds...with the HOA, and with LE.
JMO.

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:28 PM
A marine, a cop then off to the tatoo shop:D


Ya'll are funny.

farrahrani
09-19-2008, 03:28 PM
ita..

What is awful is that even if she miraculously turns up alive the story will not be really happy. She will go back to a family that clearly has issues.

I wish I could hold her in my arms and let her feel safe and loved. At least she will be in our hearts and prayers.

:rose:


IMO, if she somehow, by some miracle manages to be found alive, will NEVER go back to that family.
And if DCF has any sense, not to any distant branch of either side of that family either. Moved to another state, under another name, by private adoption and allowed to live as normal and as peaceful a life as she possibly can.

Remember Diane Down's remaining children? They were adopted by the prosecutor, NOT sent to live with their biological father or any remaining relations.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:29 PM
It looked to me like she was listening to his heart beat. I couldn't watch the whole thing. :(

I had the same impression. She didn't seem scared to me. She seemed comfortable. But, knowing what we know now, there was something foreboding in both the GGP's and Caylee's expressions. It's probably just me. IMO.

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:29 PM
Didn't Cindy have to cash in some of her 401K to pay her mother back?

That's what I recall. I bet ggm would have told her to keep her money if she knew then what she knows now.

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 03:29 PM
Telling, isn't it?

For someone to be able to lie when their child has been missing, is so far out of my realm of comprehension that I just cannot connect to them in any way.

If someone took my child, handed me a script, and threatened to kill my family if I went to police, I would naturally assume that my child was not safe with them and take the chance that the police might be able to help me.

Her story is so stupid, so bogus, so OUT THERE, I just can't get a grip on it. And now, I can't believe her parents ARE believing and supporting it.

Stunned

desmom
09-19-2008, 03:30 PM
It looked to me like she was listening to his heart beat. I couldn't watch the whole thing. :(

Ditto! :(...

SavannahStar
09-19-2008, 03:30 PM
He didnt bother me at first. Casey has a right to an attorney and someone has to do it. However, watching him walk and hold her hand, call her 'his girl', and coming to pick her up and visiting her house...I think it WAY more than he does for his other clients. It looks very unprofessional.


It's a high profile case though. You might look at the post made by impartial (attorney) that I copied and pasted earlier this morning. Though his actions around Casey may disgust some of us, in this type of situation, they are not all that unusual. Come to think of it, I think katprint (another attorney) posted the same thing. So, as I said, to me he's just an attorney doing his job. And nothing he does or says is going to allow her to "walk" IMO, so in other words don't sweat the small stuff. :)

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:30 PM
Yeah, take her computer away, or something. But, I wonder if the cops have told Cindy and George to just let her feel comfy, dont complain about her computer use because maybe they are hoping she will lead them to something, so I honestly think thats why George and Cindy are treating Casey the way they are, its probably like egg shell central there. moo

With their collective tempers, I find that hard to believe. JMO.

day2day
09-19-2008, 03:30 PM
It's not a stretch. Diana Downs did the same thing. I posted it the other night and another poster put the clinical name to it. She may very well have run out and got herself pregnant. Who knows. She was 7 months pregnant with Caylee before anyone noticed, who's to say this time would be different. I actually lost 10 pound my first 3 months. JMO.

I swear if she is..I will need you to come help ME take care of my littleone cause I will lose it. There are SO many deserving families who would actually love and cherish a littleone. She doesn't deserve to own a dog. IMO...

hammer

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:30 PM
Everyone has their own opinions right? I never claimed to be a legal sleuth of sorts, and actually if I am just too simple and dumb to be here, then I am sorry, but you know what, I dont condone this mayhem that is going on at the Anthony house. None of us here know what the Anthonys want, or feel. You can assume, but thats all it is, but not every differing opinion means the person is out of touch and doesn't get things. There are lots of problems with this case and how the media, the Anthonys and the LE is handling it.

Oh, the car in George and Cindys and them going through it means they are hiding stuff, well Cindy asked if she could and the cops said OK! They also didn't seize the car for days after Cindy told them it smelled like a dead body was in there, what more could Cindy of done, draw a diagram of a car with fumes coming from the trunk?

I guess I always assumed that if a baby is reported missing and a car smells like death the LE wouldn't wait days to haul it in for forensics, or give the ok to have Cindy wash stuff out of it.

You are right, I don't understand LE at all!! hammer:cool:The car was seized on the 16th of July. Check the 400 pages of documents...Cindy found them to be a "good read".

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:30 PM
:lol: Go grannyB, go girl!

I need to change that.

A marine, some cops and then off to the tatoo shop.

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:31 PM
I had the same impression. She didn't seem scared to me. She seemed comfortable. But, knowing what we know now, there was something foreboding in both the GGP's and Caylee's expressions. It's probably just me. IMO.

Must be me too. Maybe we are reading to much into it but they both seemed a bit sad.

True2Blues
09-19-2008, 03:32 PM
I can understand the whole protection thing, however, in my mind. Hitting the gas and getting out of there would have been a better choice.


Those two not approaching the car would have been the best choice. Those people were sitting in their car, they weren't doing anything wrong. Since they hadn't gotten out, those two didn't truly know their intentions and had no right to go up to their car and start harassing them.

They were the ones who acted aggressively and presented a threat. On top of that, they chased them down and surrounded their car. I don't care what they call themselves, they do not have the right to do that.

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:32 PM
Day 95

Where is Caylee Anthony?



(I sound like a broken record)No you don't to me BJ...I think of you as the Holder of Caylee's days. Thank you for continuing to safeguard the most absolute fact in this case!

irishkitty24
09-19-2008, 03:33 PM
IMO, if she somehow, by some miracle manages to be found alive, will NEVER go back to that family.
And if DCF has any sense, not to any distant branch of either side of that family either. Moved to another state, under another name, by private adoption and allowed to live as normal and as peaceful a life as she possibly can.

Remember Diane Down's remaining children? They were adopted by the prosecutor, NOT sent to live with their biological father or any remaining relations.


I would hope you are right. I have heard of far too many children being returned to unfit family and ending up dead.

Caylee :rose:

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:33 PM
Must be me too. Maybe we are reading to much into it but they both seemed a bit sad.

I did too. Don't know why but ggp made me think he knew he was seeing Caylee for the last time. I must be wrong on that though.:(

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 03:33 PM
That's what I recall. I bet ggm would have told her to keep her money if she knew then what she knows now.

G&C are going to be left with nothing by the time this is all over with, It appears neither one are working, This case is going to cost them their life savings.

KathR
09-19-2008, 03:33 PM
For a grandpa to be singing You Are My Sunshine to his only grandchild - well, touching to say the very least. I didn't see the video (nor do I especially want to). What doesn't make sense is that this same grandpa is protecting the very person who snuffed the sunshine from his darling granddaughter's life! The only way his protection of Casey makes any sense is that he (and Cindy) actually believe her. So they sympathize with her. I think if Casey 'fessed up to them, they would encourage her (like any good parents would) to stand up and take responsibility for it. But unless and until Casey is truthful with them, they'll defend her to their death - and Casey knows it.

The great grandfather is singing in the video, not George, the grandfather.

I do think the grand parents actually believe her. The alternatives are too awful for them to contemplate - that their beloved grand daughter is dead and their daughter brought about that death.

If you have ever lost a close loved one you know how hard the mind fights against accepting the fact of the death. You replay the loved one's last moments over and over, looking for a way to make death acceptable. Finally, after months, your mind is forced to accept the truth.

Here we have someone offering the grandparents an alternative. They can choose to believe the baby is still alive. They will hang onto that as long as they possibly can. Casey knows this. She will never change her story as long as she has them believing her. And they will not stop believing her unless she tells them she lied, which of course she won't.

SavannahStar
09-19-2008, 03:34 PM
It's not a stretch just because Diane Downs did it?


Now YOU'RE in my head! :D

spiritwolf46
09-19-2008, 03:34 PM
He didnt bother me at first. Casey has a right to an attorney and someone has to do it. However, watching him walk and hold her hand, call her 'his girl', and coming to pick her up and visiting her house...I think it WAY more than he does for his other clients. It looks very unprofessional.

I agree 1000 percent! I have never seen any attorney go above and beyond as this man has. VERY unprofessional!

Boxer
09-19-2008, 03:35 PM
It's not a stretch just because Diane Downs did it?

fungible is the word Rose was looking for.

SavannahStar
09-19-2008, 03:35 PM
The curious thing to me, though, is that part of his job should be to take the public's pulse on the general feeling about his client. If he was doing that, I think he'd be less likely to put on the PDA's, as they only inspire additional outrage.

I see your point. I'm no attorney......but I did note what two attorneys said about this.

:shrug:

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:35 PM
For someone to be able to lie when their child has been missing, is so far out of my realm of comprehension that I just cannot connect to them in any way.

If someone took my child, handed me a script, and threatened to kill my family if I went to police, I would naturally assume that my child was not safe with them and take the chance that the police might be able to help me.

Her story is so stupid, so bogus, so OUT THERE, I just can't get a grip on it. And now, I can't believe her parents ARE believing and supporting it.

Stunned


That story is definately "OUT" there. I can't imagine telling a story like that and even thinking anyone would believe it.

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:36 PM
I knew this kind of thing would happen if they brought the Guardian Angels into this.I WANT to be behind the Guardian Angels...
I have noted that so many who pee'd and moaned over the "vigilante justice" of the mob mentality of the protesters seem to be behind the GA's 100%.
That is exactly why I cannot stand behind them, though their aim to protect their fellow man from crime is a noble one, I find their means to be vigilante. I cannot condone that.
JMO.

Pebbles
09-19-2008, 03:36 PM
I really REALLY hope you are wrong. I have this awful feeling that she could be pregnant.

jmo..




I wonder about that too! Maybe that is why JB was PO.

happy2bme
09-19-2008, 03:37 PM
Just popping in. Been very busy today. Anything new? Did we find out the what was going to surprise us?:seeya:

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:37 PM
Must be me too. Maybe we are reading to much into it but they both seemed a bit sad.

They say that the very old and the very young have intuitive instincts that those of us in between do not. It's almost like GGP knew he'd never again hold Caylee and let her know that she was the sunshine of his life. Wonder if that ticked off Cindy? JMO.

barskin&co.
09-19-2008, 03:38 PM
It's not a stretch. Diana Downs did the same thing. I posted it the other night and another poster put the clinical name to it. She may very well have run out and got herself pregnant. Who knows. She was 7 months pregnant with Caylee before anyone noticed, who's to say this time would be different. I actually lost 10 pound my first 3 months. JMO.


But, Diane Downs had 3 children and, also, acted as a surrogate mother a few times. She liked getting pregnant and having a supply of disposable kids. I don't see Casey having the same predisposition. :shrug:

True2Blues
09-19-2008, 03:38 PM
For someone to be able to lie when their child has been missing, is so far out of my realm of comprehension that I just cannot connect to them in any way.

If someone took my child, handed me a script, and threatened to kill my family if I went to police, I would naturally assume that my child was not safe with them and take the chance that the police might be able to help me.

Her story is so stupid, so bogus, so OUT THERE, I just can't get a grip on it. And now, I can't believe her parents ARE believing and supporting it.

Stunned

It's literally unbelievable, the whole thing. The whole family.

Your reaction would be the normal reaction. It's what everyone I know would do. Get HELP! Now, while they might still be in the car or need to go to their house and get things before going into hiding.

What's wrong with screaming at the top of her lungs, since she was in a park? There might have been someone else around to hear and call 911.

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:38 PM
I did too. Don't know why but ggp made me think he knew he was seeing Caylee for the last time. I must be wrong on that though.:(

Yes, and Caylee looked like she wanted to stay in his arms forever, didn't she.

johnielee333
09-19-2008, 03:39 PM
He didnt bother me at first. Casey has a right to an attorney and someone has to do it. However, watching him walk and hold her hand, call her 'his girl', and coming to pick her up and visiting her house...I think it WAY more than he does for his other clients. It looks very unprofessional.
i agree with you.

bluwaters
09-19-2008, 03:39 PM
Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to begin.


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:39 PM
It's not a stretch just because Diane Downs did it?

It was not stated as an absolute, just an analogy of how the sociopathic mind works. In both cases having children brought the expectant mothers the attention they craved. Losing children did the same thing. It's a vicious cycle and that's all I'm going to say about it. JMO.

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 03:39 PM
The great grandfather is singing in the video, not George, the grandfather.

I do think the grand parents actually believe her. The alternatives are too awful for them to contemplate - that their beloved grand daughter is dead and their daughter brought about that death.

If you have ever lost a close loved one you know how hard the mind fights against accepting the fact of the death. You replay the loved one's last moments over and over, looking for a way to make death acceptable. Finally, after months, your mind is forced to accept the truth.

Here we have someone offering the grandparents an alternative. They can choose to believe the baby is still alive. They will hang onto that as long as they possibly can. Casey knows this. She will never change her story as long as she has them believing her. And they will not stop believing her unless she tells them she lied, which of course she won't.

I don't think they believe a word that comes out of her mouth, I think they know the truth though they will never admit it. I also believe that Cindy knows just how demented her daughter is.

True2Blues
09-19-2008, 03:39 PM
But, Diane Downs had 3 children and, also, acted as a surrogate mother a few times. She liked getting pregnant and having a supply of disposable kids. I don't see Casey having the same predisposition. :shrug:

I don't either. In fact, I see Casey doing everything she can to never get pregnant again.

I hope so anyway.

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:40 PM
They say that the very old and the very young have intuitive instincts that those of us in between do not. It's almost like GGP knew he'd never again hold Caylee and let her know that she was the sunshine of his life. Wonder if that ticked off Cindy? JMO.


Now that is making me really sad. I thought it was just me. I should not have watched that video. I need to go give my ggc big hugs right now.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 03:40 PM
They say that the very old and the very young have intuitive instincts that those of us in between do not. It's almost like GGP knew he'd never again hold Caylee and let her know that she was the sunshine of his life. Wonder if that ticked off Cindy? JMO.

If he had that intuitiveness, perhaps he thought it was he who was going to pass away soon, not that something would happen to his sunshine. IMO

barskin&co.
09-19-2008, 03:40 PM
They say that the very old and the very young have intuitive instincts that those of us in between do not. It's almost like GGP knew he'd never again hold Caylee and let her know that she was the sunshine of his life. Wonder if that ticked off Cindy? JMO.

Oh, God. It's so easy to forget the other victims of Casey's crimes, like the GGF. :rose:

SavannahStar
09-19-2008, 03:40 PM
The great grandfather is singing in the video, not George, the grandfather.

I do think the grand parents actually believe her. The alternatives are too awful for them to contemplate - that their beloved grand daughter is dead and their daughter brought about that death.

If you have ever lost a close loved one you know how hard the mind fights against accepting the fact of the death. You replay the loved one's last moments over and over, looking for a way to make death acceptable. Finally, after months, your mind is forced to accept the truth.

Here we have someone offering the grandparents an alternative. They can choose to believe the baby is still alive. They will hang onto that as long as they possibly can. Casey knows this. She will never change her story as long as she has them believing her. And they will not stop believing her unless she tells them she lied, which of course she won't.

I totally agree!! :beer:

desmom
09-19-2008, 03:41 PM
Hi desmom,

I think on one level I think you're absolutely right. The lawyer's advice is to his client and should not stop George and Cindy pressing their daughter for answers. She may not give them, but Baez has no right, imo to tell them they can't talk to her about Caylee, he can only advise Casey not to talk to them.

I will say, having had to do it, kicking your child out of your home is hard. It goes against the grain and it hurts, even if its the right thing to do at the time. Our problem was my child was refusing to follow my rules (my house, my rules as you said) after making the threat it took me months of the rules being continually ignored and broke and repeating the threat to follow through. I cried every day from the day I did it until the day he came home and said "I get it now".

Whatever changed George and Cindy's attitude, I believe they are running fast and hard from what they think deep down inside has happened.


:seeya: Cheri! Isn't it amazing how many tears a Mama sheds over their children. No matter how old, they will always be our babies and we will always worry. {{{{hugs}}}}

I agree George and Cindy are running fast and hard from the truth. Cindy let it slip in one her interviews when she said something like "I have already lost one child".

jmo

dixielover
09-19-2008, 03:41 PM
I wonder about that too! Maybe that is why JB was PO.

I bet Baez never imagined that everything he does would be looked at under a microscope- If I remember he is also a young lawyer that is making some major mistake for all the world to see and report- do I feel sorry for him -NO but his career and the BMW (I think) could go down the drain really fast. Or he might end up advising on the NG and Insession TV show jmo

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:41 PM
Those people had NO business going to that neighborhood with a taser. It isn't the Guardian Angels fault....it's theirs. :rolleyes:I agree that bringing a Taser was wrong, wrong , wrong! Just as with the bat...don't people understand that a weapon is very easily taken away and used against you? Especially if you are outnumbered.
Some of the yahoo's out there are just inexcusably thick in the head!
JMO.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:41 PM
fungible is the word Rose was looking for.


Thank you. That's the point I was trying to make. It was an analogy certainly not a point by point comparison between the two women. :rolleyes:

Boxer
09-19-2008, 03:41 PM
Fungible? As in interchangeable?

that was what DD did. She had a surrogate child, then forever trying to get that child back by replacing it with another

barskin&co.
09-19-2008, 03:42 PM
If he had that intuitiveness, perhaps he thought it was he who was going to pass away soon, not that something would happen to his sunshine. IMO

It seems to be so much against nature for a parent to lose a child, but a great grandparent...It's unimaginable.

bluwaters
09-19-2008, 03:43 PM
:seeya: Hi all!
I am just home from work and was hoping to have some big news today.
Looks like nothing much is going on.
I've gotta catch up...:read:
Does anyone expect a murder charge against Casey today?

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:43 PM
But, Diane Downs had 3 children and, also, acted as a surrogate mother a few times. She liked getting pregnant and having a supply of disposable kids. I don't see Casey having the same predisposition. :shrug:

No, I don't either. But I can see Casey getting pregnant again to replace Caylee and get the attention she so deperately craves. It really is a moot point because it's not likely she is pregnant, God willing. JMO.

SavannahStar
09-19-2008, 03:44 PM
:seeya: Hi all!
I am just home from work and was hoping to have some big news today.
Looks like nothing much is going on.
I've gotta catch up...:read:
Does anyone expect a murder charge against Casey today?

Nope......

barskin&co.
09-19-2008, 03:44 PM
that was what DD did. She had a surrogate child, then forever trying to get that child back by replacing it with another

Yes, Diane Downs actually wanted children, like someone else might wanted a new toy, at least for a while. But, she could always lose one or two or three, and replace them. No problem.

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:45 PM
Those two not approaching the car would have been the best choice. Those people were sitting in their car, they weren't doing anything wrong. Since they hadn't gotten out, those two didn't truly know their intentions and had no right to go up to their car and start harassing them.

They were the ones who acted aggressively and presented a threat. On top of that, they chased them down and surrounded their car. I don't care what they call themselves, they do not have the right to do that.

My opinion is that they all need to go home. Everyone, the protestors, the guardian angels, the drivers by, the sitters ect. The LE will handle this situation as soon as they can. Folks going over there are getting themselves in some mess.

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 03:45 PM
If someone handed her a script to follow, all she would have to do is turn it over to the police to prove what she is saying. She would have done that so fast it would make your eyes bleed if it exonerated her. Imo.


But she lost it. Lost the cell phone. Lost Zanny's address and phone number.

The only thing she kept is her dirty little secret for 31 days.

WillowInFlight
09-19-2008, 03:45 PM
:seeya: Hi all!
I am just home from work and was hoping to have some big news today.
Looks like nothing much is going on.
I've gotta catch up...:read:
Does anyone expect a murder charge against Casey today?
Nope:cuss:

Dogmatic
09-19-2008, 03:46 PM
My opinion is that they all need to go home. Everyone, the protestors, the guardian angels, the drivers by, the sitters ect. The LE will handle this situation as soon as they can. Folks going over there are getting themselves in some mess.


Maybe LE is out investigating every "sighting" of Caylee to exhaust every resource before arresting her and pressing charges.

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 03:47 PM
It seems to be so much against nature for a parent to lose a child, but a great grandparent...It's unimaginable.

Heartbreaking

Pebbles
09-19-2008, 03:47 PM
Did she go to Baez' office today? I must've missed that. I guess tomorrow she'll bring her beach bag and picnic basket. Geez. If you're Casey Anthony it pays to lose your child or so it would seem.:flamemad:


It certainly seems so in this case, which makes me upset. Next thing I expect to see is Casey giving out autographed pictures of herself!

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:47 PM
Hi desmom,

I think on one level I think you're absolutely right. The lawyer's advice is to his client and should not stop George and Cindy pressing their daughter for answers. She may not give them, but Baez has no right, imo to tell them they can't talk to her about Caylee, he can only advise Casey not to talk to them.

I will say, having had to do it, kicking your child out of your home is hard. It goes against the grain and it hurts, even if its the right thing to do at the time. Our problem was my child was refusing to follow my rules (my house, my rules as you said) after making the threat it took me months of the rules being continually ignored and broke and repeating the threat to follow through. I cried every day from the day I did it until the day he came home and said "I get it now".

Whatever changed George and Cindy's attitude, I believe they are running fast and hard from what they think deep down inside has happened.I just want to give you props. for doing the right, and best thing for your child. He is lucky you love him enough to stand your ground for him.:)
Many choices in life are hard. The hardest...are the most important though. I'm sure you will never regret your choice!
JMO.

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:47 PM
If someone handed her a script to follow, all she would have to do is turn it over to the police to prove what she is saying. She would have done that so fast it would make your eyes bleed if it exonerated her. Imo.


Not if Cindy is the one who gave her the script.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:47 PM
Yes, Diane Downs actually wanted children, like someone else might wanted a new toy, at least for a while. But, she could always lose one or two or three, and replace them. No problem.

IMO, that's what Caylee was to Casey, a toy. Take the toy and show her friends. OK, now let's put her away. Very, very, sad, IMO.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:48 PM
But she lost it. Lost the cell phone. Lost Zanny's address and phone number.

The only thing she kept is her dirty little secret for 31 days.

IMO, the only thing besides Caylee that she lost during those 31 days was her soul. She is truly the beast, IMO.

farrahrani
09-19-2008, 03:49 PM
I don't either. In fact, I see Casey doing everything she can to never get pregnant again.

I hope so anyway.


ITA.

Motivation is the key to each of them. Diane wanted to be pregnant for different reasons each time. One of her pregnancies was (According to the Ann Rule book on the crime) intended to replace an abortion. Another pregnancy was solely motivated by money (the surrogate one) and in fact she began a surrogate mother business, intending to have babies while implying there were several mothers when in fact it was only her and one other person.

Casey never wanted Caylee, she wanted to give her up for adoption. She wanted to party and to live her young single party life. These cases are only comparable in the crime themselves and the motivation behind the crime, not the lifestyles prior to it.
Both women disposed of obstacles in the way of their man or lifestyle. TonE or Tony or whatever his name is, did not want children at such a young age. In Diane's case she was pursuing a married man who also did not want her children.
Diane got pregnant again, whether it was to keep the child, or as a means of sympathy with the jurors to lessen her sentence still is not clear to me, but it didn't work in any case.

And it won't work with Casey if she tries the same tactic. IMO.

KathR
09-19-2008, 03:49 PM
Fungible? As in interchangeable?

That's the word Buliosi used to describe Diane Downs' attitude about her children. They were fungible. She could murder three of them and replace them with another set.

barskin&co.
09-19-2008, 03:49 PM
But she lost it. Lost the cell phone. Lost Zanny's address and phone number.

The only thing she kept is her dirty little secret for 31 days.

Well, I don't think it was difficult to memorize a 30 day script telling her what to say to the police. Day one: Say nothing. Day two: Say nothing. Day three: Say nothing. Day four: Say nothing...well, you get the picture.

day2day
09-19-2008, 03:49 PM
I wonder about that too! Maybe that is why JB was PO.

I think JB is po'd for manyyyyy reasons. The 911 call was a huge mistake on Casey's part. He mised the sentencing hearing (does he think he is geragos?) :shrug:

jmo

trt
09-19-2008, 03:50 PM
Ok, thats a little more comforting, but not much, 24 hours is a long time, especially with what was going on. moo

They arrived at the house late the previous evening...they interviewed Casey at the house until early morning hours...they left with Casey at about 7 AM and began the wild goose chase prompted by her lies...they spent hours at Universal trying to figure out exactly where her child was. I think 9:30 that same evening is well within a reasonable time to actually take possession of the car, especially since they were actually investigating Caylee's whereabouts for the remainder of that day. JMO

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:50 PM
Maybe LE is out investigating every "sighting" of Caylee to exhaust every resource before arresting her and pressing charges.


Because they don't actually have a body, then maybe they do have too. I just think that all of these people aren't doing a bit of good going to the Anthony house and getting into troubles. I do believe that LE is working as hard as they can to solve the case. All we can really do is sit back and let them do it. I"m not opposed to people making petitions, or handing out fliars. Doing searches of the area. Whatever they think will work. What I don't agree w/are these peeps who are running over to the house to make more trouble. Folks getting thier behinds whooped/or arrested is nothing but entertainment for the "Princess"...

barskin&co.
09-19-2008, 03:51 PM
IMO, that's what Caylee was to Casey, a toy. Take the toy and show her friends. OK, now let's put her away. Very, very, sad, IMO.

With all those costume pictures, it looked like Caylee was more of a fashion accessory.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:51 PM
It certainly seems so in this case, which makes me upset. Next thing I expect to see is Casey giving out autographed pictures of herself!


Not to get too far off the beaten path, but I have wondered if she's getting "fan" mail or if she's garnered a group of "real" supporters. Not the invisible group, but real people. That would certainly be a travesty. But I guess if the Night Stalker can find a wife, Casey can find a real, live friend. JMHO.

Pebbles
09-19-2008, 03:51 PM
Not days - approximately 24 hours after Cindy called LE to report a stolen car.

The car was released to LE on July 16, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. per George's signed a statement.

jmo


If LE would have taken the car any sooner, people that support Casey would be screaming that LE only concentrated on Casey being guilty, they did not check into other possibilities. You can't win if you are LE.

Also, I imagine it takes awhile to get the paperwork to take the car, LE can't just walk up and drive the car away.

Cheri_G
09-19-2008, 03:51 PM
:seeya: Cheri! Isn't it amazing how many tears a Mama sheds over their children. No matter how old, they will always be our babies and we will always worry. {{{{hugs}}}}

I agree George and Cindy are running fast and hard from the truth. Cindy let it slip in one her interviews when she said something like "I have already lost one child".

jmo

I remember Cindy saying that, or something along those lines. FL is a DP state, iirc. George and Cindy don't only have the probable death of their granddaughter to face but the possibility, should the evidence support it, the death of their daughter. Who wouldn't run from that?

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 03:51 PM
"Casey's lied to me in the past and when she's lied she's always told me the truth," Cindy Anthony said.

So maybe Zenaida was the last person she saw Caylee with. Maybe that is an identity she was in the process of stealing. IMO

GrannyB
09-19-2008, 03:52 PM
"Casey's lied to me in the past and when she's lied she's always told me the truth," Cindy Anthony said.

Sorry, I don't see what that has to do with what I typed.:confused:

happy2bme
09-19-2008, 03:52 PM
My opinion is that they all need to go home. Everyone, the protestors, the guardian angels, the drivers by, the sitters ect. The LE will handle this situation as soon as they can. Folks going over there are getting themselves in some mess.


ITA. I could understand the protestors wanting to be there in the beginning but it has gotten past the point of ridiculous. I am embarrassed to even watch some of the videos of how they are acting.

The only thing I wish and pray for is Caylee to be found and Casey would realize how much she is hurting everyone around her but not talking. Wouldn't she want to start healing herself instead of making things worse (as if they could be any worse). Does that make sense what I said?

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:52 PM
I don't find him appealing or not appealing. Neutral really. He's just an attorney doing his job. I try not to transfer my feelings about Casey to everyone surrounding her.I'm honestly a little insulted that you suggest I am transferring my feelings about Casey to Baez.
I have defended defense attorney's...refused to make any neg. judgement on Lee until i saw with my own eyes actions which I could not excuse, and have urged everyone to try to find some compassion, even when it's hard...even when I find it nearly impossible.
I think...maybe thought you knew my ways better than that.

Baez has earned my discust all in his own right, much of it has to do with what i have read of his background with his other cases...the rest is based upon his own actions, words , and mannerisms.

JMO.

farrahrani
09-19-2008, 03:52 PM
:confused: Why do you think that? I've seen this brought up before. Unless she got pregnant right before she got arrested, she might be showing at least a little by now. I noticed her t-shirt/jeans a day or two ago and she looks skinny as a rail. I don't think she's pregnant.


During my first pregnancy I didn't show until I was seven months. Nobody at work believed I was, and there was a rumor going around that I was saying I was, for attention, or for other reasons. :rolleyes:

Then I hit a few days past seven months and looked like I swallowed a hippo, lol. You never know...but I also doubt she is pregnant, just not based on appearances. IMO.

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:53 PM
They arrived at the house late the previous evening...they interviewed Casey at the house until early morning hours...they left with Casey at about 7 AM and began the wild goose chase prompted by her lies...they spent hours at Universal trying to figure out exactly where her child was. I think 9:30 that same evening is well within a reasonable time to actually take possession of the car, especially since they were actually investigating Caylee's whereabouts for the remainder of that day. JMO


Well, then. That would leave her parents to clean out the car, IMO. But, why would they do that?

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:53 PM
Well, I don't think it was difficult to memorize a 30 day script telling her what to say to the police. Day one: Say nothing. Day two: Say nothing. Day three: Say nothing. Day four: Say nothing...well, you get the picture.

Love your Simplification Barskin. :beer::beer:

AJandTam
09-19-2008, 03:54 PM
But this is what we all said before Spector. :(

You got that right. We've heard some doozies over the years eh??

desmom
09-19-2008, 03:54 PM
Ok, thats a little more comforting, but not much, 24 hours is a long time, especially with what was going on. moo

I know it sounds like a long time. I tried to do a timeline of all the events for that 24 hour period and it gave me a headache. Too many reports, too many distractions at home and too many LE. After several attempts, I realized there was a whole lot of things happening.

jmo

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:55 PM
"Casey's lied to me in the past and when she's lied she's always told me the truth," Cindy Anthony said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KxBMMtOdHA

:eek:

Armchairdet
09-19-2008, 03:56 PM
Love your Simplification Barskin. :beer::beer:

Also, since she was following it so well, where is it? She depended on her memory for something this important? If not, I hope they release this list.

Vibo
09-19-2008, 03:56 PM
I WANT to be behind the Guardian Angels...
I have noted that so many who pee'd and moaned over the "vigilante justice" of the mob mentality of the protesters seem to be behind the GA's 100%.
That is exactly why I cannot stand behind them, though their aim to protect their fellow man from crime is a noble one, I find their means to be vigilante. I cannot condone that.
JMO.

I only wonder how long it might be before they insult the Guardian Angels like they did Tim and THEY even walk away?:punch:

frances1
09-19-2008, 03:56 PM
I read that Det. Melich broke his leg. Does that mean no one went to California, or did someone else go in his place? Sorry if this has already been asked and answered.

day2day
09-19-2008, 03:56 PM
Well, then. That would leave her parents to clean out the car, IMO. But, why would they do that?

Hmmm ..to do what they are doin now...coverin her sorry ar#s

jmo

rosejustrose
09-19-2008, 03:56 PM
With all those costume pictures, it looked like Caylee was more of a fashion accessory.


I was wondering about that. What's up with that?

OneUp
09-19-2008, 03:57 PM
It's not a stretch. Diana Downs did the same thing. I posted it the other night and another poster put the clinical name to it. She may very well have run out and got herself pregnant. Who knows. She was 7 months pregnant with Caylee before anyone noticed, who's to say this time would be different. I actually lost 10 pound my first 3 months. JMO.The term applied was "fungible"

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fungible


"(of a debt) Able to be substituted for something of equal value.
Interchangeable. "

It is used to refer to her ability to see her children as not only disposable, but also readily replaceable.
JMO.

desmom
09-19-2008, 03:58 PM
Right, but it was said that Cindy's mother wanted to press charges against Casey and Cindy talked her out of it. I image those two were fighting.

One of the reports said Cindy, Caylee and Cindy's mother had dinner together after they left the nursing home on 6/15. I think Cindy's mom gave her an earful.

jmo

Cheri_G
09-19-2008, 03:58 PM
My opinion is that they all need to go home. Everyone, the protestors, the guardian angels, the drivers by, the sitters ect. The LE will handle this situation as soon as they can. Folks going over there are getting themselves in some mess.

I think the protestors are making an already bad situation much worse. They (the protestors) have already injured a child in their bid to harrass the Anthony's. Does somebody need to be seriously injured or even killed before they realize that what they are doing is nearly as wrong as what we think Casey has done?