C aylee Anthony Friday 09/19/08 a.m thread

[SandyO]

I think it's tranquilizers. She'd be in violation of the conditions of Casey's home release if she had alcohol on the premises, IIRC.

I can believe that Casey is not allowed alcoholic beverages, but would that extend to George and Cindy also? Man, having Casey in the house is coming at a high cost considering everything.

[rosejustrose]

Thanks to everyone who helped me find the audio for this call. I really appreciate it.

As for the call itself. I think, I could write a very opinionated chapter on that.

No fear for her parents in her voice.
No sense of actual urgency.
No concept of her parents shouldn't be out there to begin w/.
No sense of her responsiblity for this. No guilt or shame.

I'll leave it at that. This girl is emotionless and dare I say, 'evil' IMHO.

I found it interesting that she said "My father is going out there and there's going to be a fight." It's like she knew her father was spoiling to get into it with the protesters. He didn't go out there to move them along, he went out there looking to rumble and had his bat wielding back up, Crazy Cindy, right there with him. :rolleyes:

[AJandTam]

Good morning Tam!

Cindy called 911 first. Then Casey called twice.


:seeya: Savannah.. Good morning to you as well.

All on one night or in past nights as well?

[babblefishie]

Caseycam up


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

thanks jammies

[Barbara fl.]

Oh, I wanted to tell yous. The other night I was watching CSI, not sure when it originally aired. Anyways it was a mother who claimed her son was missing, and had pictures of him up all over her house, had toys out, snacks etc etc. Anyway, come to find out, "something" had happened when he was 2 or so and she stole pictures of another kid and continued on as if he was alive. They found hair in the car, and it ended up that the boy had been buried in the back yard, by the fence, then dug up and moved..

Wonder if Casey saw that episode.


I believe Casey's whole life is based on fictional characters. Just like the story book "Zanny the Nanny", which is probably where she got the idea from (per the BH), and I believe it. I believe that ALL the names she gave the police where fictional, these people never existed.

I can not understand why an arrest has not been made for murder. Florida has enough proof to convict. A missing child. Last seen with the mother. Proof of a decomposed body in mother's trunk. All the lies. Put it all together and you have a murder, without a body...

[rosejustrose]

Caseycam up


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Thanks for the link. Looks like garbage day, again.

[brodysho]

Padilla is certainly a character but I truly believe he is telling the truth.
If he is divulging info on NG that is a lie, I bet you dollar to donuts the Anthony's lawyer or JB would slap him with a slander suit or request a gag order. Since to date this hasn't happened I will assume all these lawyers cringe every time LP reveals more about Casey or her parents because now they have to prepare damage control.

Besides what you've listed, is there anything else that makes you believe he's telling the truth? I just think his statements are so inconsistent. One minute he states that Casey said absolutely nothing to him, now he's saying that she told him about zanny and the script. There are other inconsistencies he's told, but I can't think of them at the moment.
Also, whatever happened to that comment about the dumpsters by the boyfriends house that would play a huge role? It seems nothing ever became of that (thus far)

[MyrDawn]

Caseycam up


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

I see it's garbage day again. I wonder if any more will be stolen. :D

[AJandTam]

Maybe G and C feel safer with the protesters than with Casey.

jmo, jo

G and C are going to get hurt if they keep this up. if one person brings a gun to the hammer/baseball bat fight....

[kakax]

Do you think it kind of looks like a "staged" game?



I'm not sure. I can't imagine that they would be THAT stupid. I think it would be pretty easy for the police to get to the bottom of that. If charges are brought against these people, I don't think they would take the blame. I think they would say..we did at the request of the HOA or the Anthony's.

Who knows with these people though!!

[poplife]

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Lastly for some reason watching George with the hose on the protestors with it's little pressure..made me sad. I don't know why exactly...

I agree, I felt that way too. It was quite metaphoric, wasn't it?

The video ended too abruptly for me to see if Cindy turned it off and the stream petered out, leaving him standing there w/ a flacid hose. It was a sad moment for George, very immasculating.

I thought he looked like a demon when they did the close up on his face though, when he was spraying water and obsceneties.

The whole thing, what a waste.

[debkay]

Do you think it kind of looks like a "staged" game?
I do. One of them is always holding the other back. :rolleyes:

[st777jo]

Thanks for the link. Looks like garbage day, again.


I think they forgot a few bags. jmo, jo

[Armchairdet]

I think about some of the stuff we have seen. I know Casey seems to have no real feelings, imo. But what about Lee? Most people thought he was pretty ok, at least in the beginning. But that high five back a few weeks ago at the door. Why do that for the cameras? Why not at least look a little serious, if your niece is missing, or worse. I mean I am not saying you shouldn't still laugh and play and high five (though I couldn't imo) but wouldn't normal people know that looks a little bad?

[rosejustrose]

Besides what you've listed, is there anything else that makes you believe he's telling the truth? I just think his statements are so inconsistent. One minute he states that Casey said absolutely nothing to him, now he's saying that she told him about zanny and the script. There are other inconsistencies he's told, but I can't think of them at the moment.
Also, whatever happened to that comment about the dumpsters by the boyfriends house that would play a huge role? It seems nothing ever became of that (thus far)


ITA. While he was in FL he said the only two words Casey spoke to him were Thank You and that was for bonding her out. Now he's dropping all these "bombshells". Makess me believe he did have the Anthony house and phones bugged. JMO.

[need2no]

I admit, I have wondered about that too. That one night I also wondered if the protestors were drunk as well.


Well apparently Cindy does enjoy wine based on this MS post from Casey to Lee:


Aug 10, 2006 8:24 PM
alright, so HUGE favor time.

mom is going to buy wine coolers, and she already has tons of wine, but no beer. she said she saw how expensive it is at the store, and is refusing to buy any. if i could, ****, i definitely would.

it doesn't have to be a lot, just something. i can feel the necessity of the drinks already... it's going to be a LONG day saturday.

thanks man. see ya in a couple days!

(don't know how sober i will be able to be, being stuck around dad, and what not the whole day. i feel a lot of awkwardness coming on.)

[AJandTam]

:lol: They're safer in a pit full of rattlesnakes than in their own home w/ Casey there. I'm sure they've heard that Casey told people CA and GA were giving her their house (before Caylee was missing even!!) so sleep must not be easy in that house.

It irritates me the way Casey was referring to "our" this and "our" that in the 911 call. I don't know why it bugs me, but it does.

[jammies]

I do. One of them is always holding the other back. :rolleyes:


Do they take turns depending on the day? Draw straws?

Good thing they have that high powered attorney for advice on how to deal with the public, huh? ;)

[Mairi II]

Do either Cindy or George work right now? If not, I wonder how in the heck they're making their mortgage payments, not to mention everything else. Looks like a really nice house.

I sure hope Casey's proud of herself destroying not only her daughter's life but her whole family's.

[Armchairdet]

I agree, I felt that way too. It was quite metaphoric, wasn't it?

The video ended too abruptly for me to see if Cindy turned it off and the stream petered out, leaving him standing there w/ a flacid hose. It was a sad moment for George, very immasculating.

I thought he looked like a demon when they did the close up on his face though, when he was spraying water and obsceneties.

The whole thing, what a waste.

Cindy turning off the hose etc, I don't know whether to laugh to keep from crying, or cry to keep from lauging.

But yes. Very metaphoric.

[Mairi II]

It irritates me the way Casey was referring to "our" this and "our" that in the 911 call. I don't know why it bugs me, but it does.

It bugged me royally, too, AJandTam.

[SavannahStar]

:seeya: Savannah.. Good morning to you as well.

All on one night or in past nights as well?

No I was just talking about the recent Casey 911 call, night before last, was it? Anyway, Cindy called first, then Casey called, then Casey called a second time.

Hope you are well! Yes, this case is a doozy! :eek:

[AJandTam]

I found it interesting that she said "My father is going out there and there's going to be a fight." It's like she knew her father was spoiling to get into it with the protesters. He didn't go out there to move them along, he went out there looking to rumble and had his bat wielding back up, Crazy Cindy, right there with him. :rolleyes:

I can understand that the Anthony's can't be in doors all of the time. W/that said. I think it is absurd the way they go out there to fight at night, like they do.

Why does Casey refer to her parents as "Father" "Mother"?

[rosejustrose]

Well apparently Cindy does enjoy wine based on this MS post from Casey to Lee:


Aug 10, 2006 8:24 PM
alright, so HUGE favor time.

mom is going to buy wine coolers, and she already has tons of wine, but no beer. she said she saw how expensive it is at the store, and is refusing to buy any. if i could, ****, i definitely would.

it doesn't have to be a lot, just something. i can feel the necessity of the drinks already... it's going to be a LONG day saturday.

thanks man. see ya in a couple days!

(don't know how sober i will be able to be, being stuck around dad, and what not the whole day. i feel a lot of awkwardness coming on.)

This would have been around the time that the Anthonys were broken up pending divorce. I bet she's talking about Caylee's 1st b-day party and George coming to the house for it. Even though the date of MS comment is one day after the actual b-day, the timing fits. JMO.

[Barbara fl.]

I think about some of the stuff we have seen. I know Casey seems to have no real feelings, imo. But what about Lee? Most people thought he was pretty ok, at least in the beginning. But that high five back a few weeks ago at the door. Why do that for the cameras? Why not at least look a little serious, if your niece is missing, or worse. I mean I am not saying you shouldn't still laugh and play and high five (though I couldn't imo) but wouldn't normal people know that looks a little bad?


Your right!!! No normal behavior from anyone in that household. It seems as though they completely forgot about Caylee. If it weren't for the demonstrators I do believe the Anthony's would be going about their everyday routine. Cindy is probably sorry she ever called the police. This would have NEVER been discovered had she not called, the lie could have went on forever.

[rosejustrose]

It irritates me the way Casey was referring to "our" this and "our" that in the 911 call. I don't know why it bugs me, but it does.


It would have been worse if she said "mine", IMO.

[Velouria]

Honestly, I have believed for a long time that Cindy is imbibing. I have a neighbor who never gets word-slurring, falling down drunk, but her behavior is MUCH like what we see in Cindy Anthony. I really think she's a drinker and sometimes the liquid courage gets to her.


Remember the bond hearing...Everyone knows if Cindy's not eating she drinks...water.

[SavannahStar]

Besides what you've listed, is there anything else that makes you believe he's telling the truth? I just think his statements are so inconsistent. One minute he states that Casey said absolutely nothing to him, now he's saying that she told him about zanny and the script. There are other inconsistencies he's told, but I can't think of them at the moment.
Also, whatever happened to that comment about the dumpsters by the boyfriends house that would play a huge role? It seems nothing ever became of that (thus far)

I agree. I am VERY VERY wary of anything Padilla comes out with. I think most of it is for the shock value; he's looking for his 15 minutes of fame. I don't doubt some of what he claims is the truth.....other stuff, not so much. I wait for proof when it comes to Padilla's statements.

[rosejustrose]

Do either Cindy or George work right now? If not, I wonder how in the heck they're making their mortgage payments, not to mention everything else. Looks like a really nice house.

I sure hope Casey's proud of herself destroying not only her daughter's life but her whole family's.


I though I read that Cindy is on personal leave but that George was still going to work, occassionally, when not fighting in the streets, that is. JMO.

[jammies]

It would have been worse if she said "mine", IMO.



Maybe she's still counting on her parents "giving" her the house? lol

[Barbara fl.]

I can understand that the Anthony's can't be in doors all of the time. W/that said. I think it is absurd the way they go out there to fight at night, like they do.

Why does Casey refer to her parents as "Father" "Mother"?


She refers to her parents in OTHER words also. &%$#@& when she was in jail....

[poplife]

I can believe that Casey is not allowed alcoholic beverages, but would that extend to George and Cindy also? Man, having Casey in the house is coming at a high cost considering everything.

Correct. No alcohol on the premises. Remember when someone told thaat there were beer bottles in the trash and the judge said he'd let it slide?

[Mairi II]

I though I read that Cindy is on personal leave but that George was still going to work, occassionally, when not fighting in the streets, that is. JMO.

You wouldn't think George makes enough to even keep them in groceries. :shrug:

[Snoopy50]

Maybe she's still counting on her parents "giving" her the house? lol

Good morning!!!:seeya:
I have a sneaky feeling that the State of FL will be giving Casey her "permanent" home.;)

[AJandTam]

I'm not sure. I can't imagine that they would be THAT stupid. I think it would be pretty easy for the police to get to the bottom of that. If charges are brought against these people, I don't think they would take the blame. I think they would say..we did at the request of the HOA or the Anthony's.

Who knows with these people though!!

I don't know either. The parents seem very emotionally immature to me.

[FeelinFroggy617]

Good morning!!!:seeya:
I have a sneaky feeling that the State of FL will be giving Casey her "permanent" home.;)




http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7015427&version=1&locale=EN-US


Has anyone seen this??

[debkay]

Correct. No alcohol on the premises. Remember when someone told thaat there were beer bottles in the trash and the judge said he'd let it slide?


I dont remember that. Why would he let such a thing slide???:shrug:

[poplife]

He is inconsistent. Just the other day, I said who heard the story about Casey telling Rob she handed Caylee off at Blanchard Park, well a lot of people told me it was just Rob who said it, well later that night Nancy asks Padilla who did Casey tell that to and Padilla rattled off that Casey told him, Rob, and some other people.

Now he has all these wild theories on how Casey told Lee, well, didn't Padilla have people in the house around Casey at all times, didn't someone in the house hear it, the home is probably bugged, you dont think the cops didn't hear it, I mean Padilla is pulling everyones leg. moo

Hey, he came up w/ the goods on the phone records though, didn't he?

[Armchairdet]

Your right!!! No normal behavior from anyone in that household. It seems as though they completely forgot about Caylee. If it weren't for the demonstrators I do believe the Anthony's would be going about their everyday routine. Cindy is probably sorry she ever called the police. This would have NEVER been discovered had she not called, the lie could have went on forever.



I still wonder why she called the police now that I think about it. I know she said she mentioned the stolen car so they would come quicker for Caylee. (Which makes no sense.) But I wonder if she didn't actually mention Caylee missing, and the smell in the trunk to get them there quicker to deal with Casey.

[chrissybot]

Oh, I wanted to tell yous. The other night I was watching CSI, not sure when it originally aired. Anyways it was a mother who claimed her son was missing, and had pictures of him up all over her house, had toys out, snacks etc etc. Anyway, come to find out, "something" had happened when he was 2 or so and she stole pictures of another kid and continued on as if he was alive. They found hair in the car, and it ended up that the boy had been buried in the back yard, by the fence, then dug up and moved..

Wonder if Casey saw that episode.
Whoa neighbor, thats scary:chicken:. Wasn't CSI listed on her myspace as one of her favorite shows??

[Joan Weiss]

He is inconsistent. Just the other day, I said who heard the story about Casey telling Rob she handed Caylee off at Blanchard Park, well a lot of people told me it was just Rob who said it, well later that night Nancy asks Padilla who did Casey tell that to and Padilla rattled off that Casey told him, Rob, and some other people.

Now he has all these wild theories on how Casey told Lee, well, didn't Padilla have people in the house around Casey at all times, didn't someone in the house hear it, the home is probably bugged, you dont think the cops didn't hear it, I mean Padilla is pulling everyones leg. mooImo, he's reading the message boards.

[Mairi II]

Dont forget they have gift cards.

Please don't tell me people are sending them gift cards!!! Oh brother.

[AJandTam]

I do. One of them is always holding the other back. :rolleyes:

Yes, they do, and they seem to take turns doing it.

[Barbara fl.]

I have played around with it in my head alot. I was trying to see how I would be reacting if I was the GP.

I do believe that I would make my child tell the truth so that closure can come of this and then I would probably stand by my daughter by trying to get her a good defense, but I would NEVER be able to forgive her for what she did.

I think the Anthony's are bewildered as to what to do and they believe they are doing the right thing. It could be and most likely is due to them blaming themselves for what happened. But defending their daughter doesn't help that guilt, it will only make it worse. They all need closure (except for Casey). I'm sure Casey forgave herself as soon as it took place. Her actions spoke loud in that direction.

[AJandTam]

Well apparently Cindy does enjoy wine based on this MS post from Casey to Lee:


Aug 10, 2006 8:24 PM
alright, so HUGE favor time.

mom is going to buy wine coolers, and she already has tons of wine, but no beer. she said she saw how expensive it is at the store, and is refusing to buy any. if i could, ****, i definitely would.

it doesn't have to be a lot, just something. i can feel the necessity of the drinks already... it's going to be a LONG day saturday.

thanks man. see ya in a couple days!

(don't know how sober i will be able to be, being stuck around dad, and what not the whole day. i feel a lot of awkwardness coming on.)


That girl doesn't have any appreciation or any other feelings for her parents. IMHO.

[Velouria]

I dont remember that. Why would he let such a thing slide???:shrug:

He probably reasoned that ANYONE who has to live with Casey deserves/needs a drink or two.

[jakee]

Good morning.

I have not read last night's thread so sorry if this has been answered. There was talk yesterday that Cindy and George did take LD tests. Was this confirmed anywhere? Thank you. :)

I have not watched last night's NG yet. Worth it?

[Mandysmom]

ITA. While he was in FL he said the only two words Casey spoke to him were Thank You and that was for bonding her out. Now he's dropping all these "bombshells". Makess me believe he did have the Anthony house and phones bugged. JMO.

From what I can remember, he said she started up with the whole Zenaida story and he told her to just stop because that wasn't the truth.

The more I hear him talk, the more I believe he reads some message boards and just throws out what is said there because I know I've read most of the stuff he says before he says it. LOL

He was kind of handy with the phone records though, proving that Casey never got a call from Zenaida, as if anybody believed that anyway, on the day she said she did. I'm sure of course, that LE had those records as well.

My question is, are those the same records that Cindy claimed to have that she said proved that Zenaida called Casey? Or am I thinking of something else?

:shrug:

[need2no]

This would have been around the time that the Anthonys were broken up pending divorce. I bet she's talking about Caylee's 1st b-day party and George coming to the house for it. Even though the date of MS comment is one day after the actual b-day, the timing fits. JMO.



I agree, she mentions Saturday is going to be a long day so I assume they were celebrating Caylee's birthday on Sat. the 12th.


Do you think KILL was the word **** out in her message to Lee?

She wants to do 'something' to Cindy, and expects to feel awkward and needs to get drunk to be around George.....sad, huh.

[Snoopy50]

[QUOTE=Mairi II;12146667]Please don't tell me people are sending them gift cards!!! Oh brother.[/QUOTE

On the Caylee website, they ask for donations and gift cards to grocery stores, Target and Walmart. Go figure.:shrug:

[poplife]

I dont remember that. Why would he let such a thing slide???:shrug:

I am looking for a link. I will take it back if I can't confirm. I read the neighbors allerted authorities after seeing beer bottles on the property. Looking...

[rosejustrose]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7015427&version=1&locale=EN-US


Has anyone seen this??

Wow, I think thou doest protest too much. She sure did go on and on about that dang shovel and why Casey would borrow one. Interesting that they hide the key from Casey. Probably to stop her from stealing gas. At least Cindy talked about Caylee in the present tense. Casey talked about her in the past tense. IMO.

[MyrDawn]

I have believed all along they were playing to the camera, as far back as their interviews with Greta and before. I believe that it's pretty clear; Cindy & George KNEW that Caylee had been missing mid June. When you white board this; the timeline doesnt work out at all for this family...Very Unfortunate. This family knew and the 911 calls were a ruse, staged. I wouldnt be surprised if they do "produce" the child at some point. alive. I have this itty bitty tiny piece of hope they have perpetuated a ruse; cant figure out how to get her back now without being NAILED to the CARPET. Which I think is coming, I think the arrests coming will be the As arrests actually for aiding and abetting as well as improper disposal of human remains. It's those Gas Cans George. You made a Big Mistake their, you tried to actually "THINK" but alas you could do that. And you blew it buddy.


If Cindy & George knew Caylee had been missing since mid June, why would she make those 911 calls and alert the police? All they had to do is tell anyone that asked that Casey had moved and took her daughter with her.

And, if Caylee really was alive and they can "produce" her "at some point", why would they wait to do it, and be putting themselves and Casey through all this?
JMO

[margaritaville]

Do either Cindy or George work right now? If not, I wonder how in the heck they're making their mortgage payments, not to mention everything else. Looks like a really nice house.

I sure hope Casey's proud of herself destroying not only her daughter's life but her whole family's.


Sorry if this has already been said.. i am playing catch-up still this morning!

But to answer your question..When Cindy was on the stand for the bond hearing and the woman lawyer was questioning her about her finances because cindy had said that she would post Casey's bond no matter what.........
Cindy stated.....

"I have 5 weeks of vacation left (PTO) beyond that there is a trust fund for people having hardship for financial. I can tap into that for income. I will continue to draw my paycheck"


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039126&version=1&locale=EN-US

[Velouria]

I believe their website is asking for donations..and gift cards..even lists the stores to purchase from.

But only to buy supplies for all those non-existant searchers, of course.

[jakee]

No, I do not believe they have.

Thank you. :)

[rosejustrose]

Imo, he's reading the message boards.

ITA. Some of his statements have come verbatim from this very board, IMO.

[AJandTam]

It bugged me royally, too, AJandTam.

For me anyhow. it could be because I don't have parents and seeing how she doesn't seem to understand that no matter how evil she is towards them. They are still taking care of her. Makes me sick.

[Motomom]

Whoa neighbor, thats scary:chicken:. Wasn't CSI listed on her myspace as one of her favorite shows??

:seeya: I know lots was said about csi and the crime shows she watched. I should have seen when that originally aired. I think i saw it on Spike cause hubby usually watches the repeats.. I'm gonna go look and see lol.. But it was wierd. and she moved the body because the neighbors DOG kept digging there..

[EGirl]

I agree, she mentions Saturday is going to be a long day so I assume they were celebrating Caylee's birthday on Sat. the 12th.


Do you think KILL was the word **** out in her message to Lee?

She wants to do 'something' to Cindy, and expects to feel awkward and needs to get drunk to be around George.....sad, huh.


I believe the word was chit.

And wasn't Casey still pregnant when the divorce petition was filed?

[Lilly12]

I noticed that too!
Dispatcher: "And who are you?"
Casey: "The resident"

I'm looking forward to the day she's a permanent "resident" in prison.


I will say this in her defense, ugh, hate to, but, as I recall the dispactcher asked her, are you the protestor, or resident, she answered resident. It was a normal reflex, without thinking. moo

[Barbara fl.]

I still wonder why she called the police now that I think about it. I know she said she mentioned the stolen car so they would come quicker for Caylee. (Which makes no sense.) But I wonder if she didn't actually mention Caylee missing, and the smell in the trunk to get them there quicker to deal with Casey.


I think, at that point Cindy did not realize or want to believe that Caylee was dead. She probably thought that Casey did hand her over to someone, or she probably never would have called the police. BUT, Cindy KNOWS the truth by now and by continueing to cover up for her daughter is certainly not helping the issue for any of them. They must not be thinking ahead, because this can NOT have a happy ending by any means.

The truth will come out eventually. I just hope that Florida will use what they have to make the arrest for murder, or there just might be a possibility that Casey will walk...I hate to think about that...

[AJandTam]

No I was just talking about the recent Casey 911 call, night before last, was it? Anyway, Cindy called first, then Casey called, then Casey called a second time.

Hope you are well! Yes, this case is a doozy! :eek:

Thanks Savannah.

No doubt, it's mindboggling.

[MyrDawn]

Imo, he's reading the message boards.

ITA I think, among other things, this is where he found out about that book with "Zanny the Nanny", that he's taking credit for and told the LE about.

JMO

[Joan Weiss]

Well apparently Cindy does enjoy wine based on this MS post from Casey to Lee:


Aug 10, 2006 8:24 PM
alright, so HUGE favor time.

mom is going to buy wine coolers, and she already has tons of wine, but no beer. she said she saw how expensive it is at the store, and is refusing to buy any. if i could, ****, i definitely would.

it doesn't have to be a lot, just something. i can feel the necessity of the drinks already... it's going to be a LONG day saturday.

thanks man. see ya in a couple days!

(don't know how sober i will be able to be, being stuck around dad, and what not the whole day. i feel a lot of awkwardness coming on.)I enjoy wine with dinner, and I don't consider myself a drinker. A party? Yep. I'd have plenty of wine on hand, too. No hard liquor and byob.

What really shouts at me here is that now Casey is with them all the time, and with all her warts showing for public view. I wonder how that's workin' for her. :chicken:

[Velouria]

Wow, I think thou doest protest too much. She sure did go on and on about that dang shovel and why Casey would borrow one. Interesting that they hide the key from Casey. Probably to stop her from stealing gas. At least Cindy talked about Caylee in the present tense. Casey talked about her in the past tense. IMO.


Casey isn't even living at Hopespring at the time, and yet she comes back to the house just to shovel some bamboo shoots because she is such a great daughter and meticulous groundskeeper.

Okay, gotcha Cindy.

[rosejustrose]

I will say this in her defense, ugh, hate to, but, as I recall the dispactcher asked her, are you the protestor, or resident, she answered resident. It was a normal reflex, without thinking. moo


She said protester first, IIRC. Male dispatcher had to ask again and correct her.

[WillowInFlight]

Wow, I think thou doest protest too much. She sure did go on and on about that dang shovel and why Casey would borrow one. Interesting that they hide the key from Casey. Probably to stop her from stealing gas. At least Cindy talked about Caylee in the present tense. Casey talked about her in the past tense. IMO.
Good morning Rose, ITA. That whole family talks too much. Plus I don't buy the reason she borrowed the shovel, if she was getting rid of bamboo why not just wait till her parents got home. Something about they way Cindy talked bothered me.

[Barbara fl.]

If Cindy & George knew Caylee had been missing since mid June, why would she make those 911 calls and alert the police? All they had to do is tell anyone that asked that Casey had moved and took her daughter with her.

And, if Caylee really was alive and they can "produce" her "at some point", why would they wait to do it, and be putting themselves and Casey through all this?
JMO


Because they didn't know that Caylee was missing since mid June. They thought that Casey was doing this to get back at them for fighting with Casey for stealing the money from the grandmother. Casey has lied all her life and her parents know good and well what a liar their daughter is. They also know the truth by now. They are just protecting Casey one more time as they always did in the past. This is what created the monster that she is, she got away with lying so much that it becane a part of her everyday life.

[poplife]

If this was Caylees birthday they were discussing..its sad as heck that everyone plans to get drunk on it..who will watch Caylee?...isnt it CAYLEES day?

not to mention casey wouldn't even be of legal age yet and would be alluding to drinking at home in front of her parents and doing it to the extent of being visibly "drunk."

Whoa. Quite diff than george saying she doesn't drink.

[Joan Weiss]

ITA I think, among other things, this is where he found out about that book with "Zanny the Nanny", that he's taking credit for and told the LE about.

JMO"Absolutely." Plagiarism. imo

[Armchairdet]

:seeya: I know lots was said about csi and the crime shows she watched. I should have seen when that originally aired. I think i saw it on Spike cause hubby usually watches the repeats.. I'm gonna go look and see lol.. But it was wierd. and she moved the body because the neighbors DOG kept digging there..

I watched an episode titled 1000 days on earth recently. It was very sad, the little girl was about three, hence the title. It really didn't have any 'clues' as it were. But as I watched it I recalled Casey likes the show, and wondered if she was watching it too.

[Joan Weiss]

Does it bother any one here that the police chased down the Caylee sighting in Volusia County yesterday? If they did in fact have forensic evidence that Caylee was dead why would they respond to the tip? This case is driving me crazy. IMOCan you imagine what the defense would do with that at trial?

[Mandysmom]

Wow, I think thou doest protest too much. She sure did go on and on about that dang shovel and why Casey would borrow one. Interesting that they hide the key from Casey. Probably to stop her from stealing gas. At least Cindy talked about Caylee in the present tense. Casey talked about her in the past tense. IMO.

This might not mean a thing, but a doctor/psychologist can't remember which one was talking about the extraordinary detail Casey was going into when describing how she left Caylee at Zenaida's.

She said that when people are pathological liars, they go into detail, giving more info that is generally needed and just keep going.

Not saying that this is true of Cindy but could be I guess. Yes, you're right, she does at least talk about Caylee in the present tense.

[shelbar53]

I dont remember that. Why would he let such a thing slide???:shrug:
I heard they felt the beer bottles were from protesters

[StickyBeak]

I found it interesting that she said "My father is going out there and there's going to be a fight." It's like she knew her father was spoiling to get into it with the protesters. He didn't go out there to move them along, he went out there looking to rumble and had his bat wielding back up, Crazy Cindy, right there with him. :rolleyes:

Think alike, Odd as well that she told 911 there were no weapons involved, she said she was watching it on the monitor, guess Dad carrying a bat does not qualify as a weapon. JMO

[Nellie]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7015427&version=1&locale=EN-US


Has anyone seen this??

Yep that's CINDY'S story about the shovel BUT I've never ever heard Casey say she borrowed the shovel to dig up bamboo. And my goodness, Cindy sure does go on and on and on and on about it, doesn't she? Almost too much. And I've always hated it when "that family" refers to Caylee and "that child". Argghhh! I have never ever referred to any of my g-children as "that child" and they do it quite often. It sounds so impersonal.

[MyrDawn]

Because they didn't know that Caylee was missing since mid June. They thought that Casey was doing this to get back at them for fighting with Casey for stealing the money from the grandmother. Casey has lied all her life and her parents know good and well what a liar their daughter is. They also know the truth by now. They are just protecting Casey one more time as they always did in the past. This is what created the monster that she is, she got away with lying so much that it becane a part of her everyday life.

Dots posted that they did know Caylee had been missing since mid June. That's why I responded to her post and asked her those questions.

I believe like you do, that they didn't know and thought she was with Casey.

[shelbar53]

Does it bother any one here that the police chased down the Caylee sighting in Volusia County yesterday? If they did in fact have forensic evidence that Caylee was dead why would they respond to the tip? This case is driving me crazy. IMO
I think to cover their bases at the trial. LE can say were chased down every tip...

[AJandTam]

If Cindy & George knew Caylee had been missing since mid June, why would she make those 911 calls and alert the police? All they had to do is tell anyone that asked that Casey had moved and took her daughter with her.

And, if Caylee really was alive and they can "produce" her "at some point", why would they wait to do it, and be putting themselves and Casey through all this?
JMO


I agree. The grandp's must have not realized at that point that this was as serious as it was. Unfortunately, by the time they figured it out. The LE was already involved.

They are full of it. IMHO,.

[Velouria]

Does it bother any one here that the police chased down the Caylee sighting in Volusia County yesterday? If they did in fact have forensic evidence that Caylee was dead why would they respond to the tip? This case is driving me crazy. IMO

IMO they're trying to make a good-faith showing that they are following up "live" leads. Then the defense can't claim otherwise.

[Joan Weiss]

Remember when Cindy said the gate was opened in the backyard, makes me wonder if some dog knocked it open to get to the body, jeez, can you imagine if that happened and a dog took the body and took it to the woods and ate it and thats why Casey dosen't know where Caylee is?

Yeah, yeah, I know, the car trunk stuff, but still, that would be whacked out. mooI don't think a critter would drag it anywhere from the yard. I do think the Anthonys' dogs might have been sniffing around, though. They sure liked Caylee's bed, too. I wonder if LE checked that bed...imo

[SavannahStar]

I will say this in her defense, ugh, hate to, but, as I recall the dispactcher asked her, are you the protestor, or resident, she answered resident. It was a normal reflex, without thinking. moo

That is correct.

[WillowInFlight]

I enjoy wine with dinner, and I don't consider myself a drinker. A party? Yep. I'd have plenty of wine on hand, too. No hard liquor and byob.

What really shouts at me here is that now Casey is with them all the time, and with all her warts showing for public view. I wonder how that's workin' for her. :chicken:
I had a good Chardonnay last night. I picture Casey handing Cindy and George a list of her wants, and if they argue I picture Casey saying "look, I can't get these things for myself, so you are going to get them" and then Cindy saying "ok".

[rosejustrose]

Does it bother any one here that the police chased down the Caylee sighting in Volusia County yesterday? If they did in fact have forensic evidence that Caylee was dead why would they respond to the tip? This case is driving me crazy. IMO

CYA, IMO. If they didn't follow up on that tip the Anthonys would make a case that they never looked for a live Caylee and they could hurt the prosecutor's case. JMO.

[need2no]

If this was Caylees birthday they were discussing..its sad as heck that everyone plans to get drunk on it..who will watch Caylee?...isnt it CAYLEES day?


Oh I so agree...it should have been Caylee's special day. I can't imagine not being excited about your child's birthday, especially the super special first birthday, and instead PLANNING on getting drunk.

Just another example of Casey's selfishness...my feelings come first attitude. Pathetic!

[st777jo]

Remember when Cindy said the gate was opened in the backyard, makes me wonder if some dog knocked it open to get to the body, jeez, can you imagine if that happened and a dog took the body and took it to the woods and ate it and thats why Casey dosen't know where Caylee is?

Yeah, yeah, I know, the car trunk stuff, but still, that would be whacked out. moo


IMO, no one knows where Caylee is now because after she was put wherever that was, during the first few weeks, something happened to the body when whom ever went to check on her. Water swept Caylee away, animals got to her, etc. Now they can honestly say, I don't know where Caylee is.

[Mandysmom]

Does it bother any one here that the police chased down the Caylee sighting in Volusia County yesterday? If they did in fact have forensic evidence that Caylee was dead why would they respond to the tip? This case is driving me crazy. IMO

It doesn't bother me, it just shows that they are following every avenue and making sure that they don't get accused of not trying to do everything possible.

That's been happening enough as it is, they have been accused of having "tunnel vision" and not following up on sightings and looking for a live Caylee.

As the sheriff said, "we are looking for Caylee Anthony", he didn't say whether or not they were looking for a live Caylee or body specifically. I think any reasonable juror could figure that one out.

:)

[shelbar53]

Yep that's CINDY'S story about the shovel BUT I've never ever heard Casey say she borrowed the shovel to dig up bamboo. And my goodness, Cindy sure does go on and on and on and on about it, doesn't she? Almost too much. And I've always hated it when "that family" refers to Caylee and "that child". Argghhh! I have never ever referred to any of my g-children as "that child" and they do it quite often. It sounds so impersonal.
Cindy seems to lose her train of thought at the end....and starts talking about there cant be a body out there cuz we put down plastic yearas ago and it wasnt disturbed and there will be places dug up around the yard cuz of the bambo...the end conversation didnt flow...

[hamebone]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7015427&version=1&locale=EN-US


Has anyone seen this??

Thanks.

why would she borrow a shovel for bamboo, when her daughter has been kidnapped.

[Velouria]

I think CSI is one of her favorite shows ..


I hope her new favorite show is "Prison Break".

[FeelinFroggy617]

Yep that's CINDY'S story about the shovel BUT I've never ever heard Casey say she borrowed the shovel to dig up bamboo. And my goodness, Cindy sure does go on and on and on and on about it, doesn't she? Almost too much. And I've always hated it when "that family" refers to Caylee and "that child". Argghhh! I have never ever referred to any of my g-children as "that child" and they do it quite often. It sounds so impersonal.


That was my thought exactly.... it was an awfully winded story about a shovel. She could've answered that in 2 sentences.

[Acorn]

Very heartfelt and a good recap.

http://www.bloggernews.net/117834

"Caylee, where ever you are, please know that America hasn’t forgotten you and neither has the police. God Bless you sweetheart where ever you are."

[irishkitty24]

Thanks.

why would she borrow a shovel for bamboo, when her daughter has been kidnapped.

I know, it's such a crock!

[AJandTam]

She was rattled ..

Morning, Tam! :seeya:


Honestly, I didn't think the transcripts sounded rattled but they don't give the whole picture of things. So then some nice posters provided the link to the actually audio of the 911 call. I didn't think she was rattled at all. And on top of it all. She wanted justice. To PROVE the case against the protestors. All things considered, words like audacity and nerve come to mind.

[Motomom]

:seeya: I know lots was said about csi and the crime shows she watched. I should have seen when that originally aired. I think i saw it on Spike cause hubby usually watches the repeats.. I'm gonna go look and see lol.. But it was wierd. and she moved the body because the neighbors DOG kept digging there..

127. Season 6, Ep 10: Still Life9.226 ReviewsThe CSI's are called out to investigate the disappearance of a boy whose father died four years ago. Soon a couple is arrested at a convenience store with a boy matching the description of the missing kid. The only problem is they both claim it is their son. Both parents have exactly the same picture of the boy, with a scar on exactly the same place on his face. They hope a DNA-test could confirm who the real parents are, but when this information comes to light, it lead to another bizarre twist, possibly murder.

Aired: 12/8/2005

This is the one I just saw.. weird.
http://www.tv.com/csi/show/19/episode_guide.html?season=6&tag=season_dropdown%3Bdropdown

[SavannahStar]

I heard they felt the beer bottles were from protesters

I recall that also, shelbar53.

[Joan Weiss]

I will say this in her defense, ugh, hate to, but, as I recall the dispactcher asked her, are you the protestor, or resident, she answered resident. It was a normal reflex, without thinking. mooShe didn't want to give her name, that was perfectly clear. She was asked twice before she said that. When I call LE, they want my name and address. imo

[Barbara fl.]

What I truly believed happened to Caylee. Casey wanted to hang out at the club (the one place that she couldn't take Caylee), so she bought her some pizza, gave her something to sleep and put her in the trunk of the car. She couldn't just leave her in the front of the car because someone would have seen the child and called the police. Casey then partied at the club, probably left with her boyfriend to go back to his place and couldn't very well say "Oh by the way my daughter is in the trunk? So she left her there and the next day found her deceased. She then had 30 days in which to dispose of the body.

She had to act the same as she would ordinarily act so that it wouldn't cause suspicion. Seeing as she already is such a good liar, it came easy. And, i am more then sure the body will never appear. So if Casey doesn't fess up, no one will ever know, except for Casey.

In the interim, Casey focused on the best lie she could come up with to try and save herself.

Casey obviously lied all her life and got away with it. I guess her family never thought it would get to this, so they are now blaming themselves and protecting Casey from their guilt..


JMO

[shelbar53]

Thanks.

why would she borrow a shovel for bamboo, when her daughter has been kidnapped.
good point...make me stop and think...yeah why would she!!!

[beetlebrow]

I dont remember that. Why would he let such a thing slide???:shrug:


Because they were Lennys????? :lol:

[need2no]

ITA. Some of his statements have come verbatim from this very board, IMO.


I had to chuckle last night when Padilla told NG he gave a Double Trouble Zany the Babysitter book to the FBI....this was brought up and discussed on this board quite a while ago. :)

[AJandTam]

Does it bother any one here that the police chased down the Caylee sighting in Volusia County yesterday? If they did in fact have forensic evidence that Caylee was dead why would they respond to the tip? This case is driving me crazy. IMO

Yes, it does. Seems the Le did that in the Maddie McCann case as well, and we ask the same questions.

[jakee]

Thanks.

why would she borrow a shovel for bamboo, when her daughter has been kidnapped.

Good point. :)

[rosejustrose]

Cindy seems to lose her train of thought at the end....and starts talking about there cant be a body out there cuz we put down plastic yearas ago and it wasnt disturbed and there will be places dug up around the yard cuz of the bambo...the end conversation didnt flow...


Why the heck does she keep looking off to her side? It's like she's looking to someone else for approval of what she's saying. IMO.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Very heartfelt and a good recap.

http://www.bloggernews.net/117834

"Caylee, where ever you are, please know that America hasn’t forgotten you and neither has the police. God Bless you sweetheart where ever you are."


Morning everyone. :seeya: Thanks for the link Acorn.

[beetlebrow]

Thanks.

why would she borrow a shovel for bamboo, when her daughter has been kidnapped.

good point.........:D

[Joan Weiss]

Honestly, I didn't think the transcripts sounded rattled but they don't give the whole picture of things. So then some nice posters provided the link to the actually audio of the 911 call. I didn't think she was rattled at all. And on top of it all. She wanted justice. To PROVE the case against the protestors. All things considered, words like audacity and nerve come to mind.I agree. She was demanding and insistent. She didn't mention the bat. imo

[AnnInOhio]

What I truly believed happened to Caylee. Casey wanted to hang out at the club (the one place that she couldn't take Caylee), so she bought her some pizza, gave her something to sleep and put her in the trunk of the car. She couldn't just leave her in the front of the car because someone would have seen the child and called the police. Casey then partied at the club, probably left with her boyfriend to go back to his place and couldn't very well say "Oh by the way my daughter is in the trunk? So she left her there and the next day found her deceased. She then had 30 days in which to dispose of the body.

She had to act the same as she would ordinarily act so that it wouldn't cause suspicion. Seeing as she already is such a good liar, it came easy. And, i am more then sure the body will never appear. So if Casey doesn't fess up, no one will ever know, except for Casey.

In the interim, Casey focused on the best lie she could come up with to try and save herself.

Casey obviously lied all her life and got away with it. I guess her family never thought it would get to this, so they are now blaming themselves and protecting Casey from their guilt..


JMO

I love the way so many people just can't/won't wrap their heads around the idea that Casey was capable of intentionally murdering Caylee. And everybody wonders why CA and GA are so deep in denial!

[Joan Weiss]

Thanks.

why would she borrow a shovel for bamboo, when her daughter has been kidnapped.Excellent point. :cool:

That's not going to fly in front of a jury. imo

[rosejustrose]

Yes, it does. Seems the Le did that in the Maddie McCann case as well, and we ask the same questions.


I didn't follow the McCann case that closely. Was there evidence of decomp? TIA.

[Barbara fl.]

Does it bother any one here that the police chased down the Caylee sighting in Volusia County yesterday? If they did in fact have forensic evidence that Caylee was dead why would they respond to the tip? This case is driving me crazy. IMO


If they don't still act on tips it would prejudice the case (if it ever gets to the jury) that LE did not follow any and all leads. Seeing as a body has not surfaced they have to check all leads just like all the sightings of Lacy proved wrong, but it has to be checked. It seems that Florida doesn't want to leave any door unopened. I could accept this, if there was an arrest for murder in the making...But I am starting to have my doubts on Florida being capable of trying Casey without a body...

[Joan Weiss]

What I truly believed happened to Caylee. Casey wanted to hang out at the club (the one place that she couldn't take Caylee), so she bought her some pizza, gave her something to sleep and put her in the trunk of the car. She couldn't just leave her in the front of the car because someone would have seen the child and called the police. Casey then partied at the club, probably left with her boyfriend to go back to his place and couldn't very well say "Oh by the way my daughter is in the trunk? So she left her there and the next day found her deceased. She then had 30 days in which to dispose of the body.

She had to act the same as she would ordinarily act so that it wouldn't cause suspicion. Seeing as she already is such a good liar, it came easy. And, i am more then sure the body will never appear. So if Casey doesn't fess up, no one will ever know, except for Casey.

In the interim, Casey focused on the best lie she could come up with to try and save herself.

Casey obviously lied all her life and got away with it. I guess her family never thought it would get to this, so they are now blaming themselves and protecting Casey from their guilt..


JMOYou forgot about the chloroform.

[Mairi II]

Sorry if this has already been said.. i am playing catch-up still this morning!

But to answer your question..When Cindy was on the stand for the bond hearing and the woman lawyer was questioning her about her finances because cindy had said that she would post Casey's bond no matter what.........
Cindy stated.....

"I have 5 weeks of vacation left (PTO) beyond that there is a trust fund for people having hardship for financial. I can tap into that for income. I will continue to draw my paycheck"


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039126&version=1&locale=EN-US

Many thanks, MV. :)

[rosejustrose]

Morning everyone. :seeya: Thanks for the link Acorn.

That sure is a cute picture of Caylee:rose: She looks older and wiser than the average 2 year old, IMO.

[WillowInFlight]

Jenny, please take the bold off your posts ..
It's a little hard on the eyes .. :seeya:

Thank you ;)

[poplife]

I give up, i'm no lynn gweeney. :(

I can't find the conditions of her home confinement or the article about the beer bottles.

Fudge.

[Snoopy50]

.;)





It will just make my weekend. I would just be so thrilled. I will name a star for Caylee; as a reminder she will always be looking down and watching them. All of them. Caylee isnt alive, I try to hold on to tiny things, that she is. It's the science and forensics in that car that make this an open and shut case for me. Except, I dont know that Casey last drove that car to Amscott. For all I know, George did it to wipe his kids butt one last time. I think that might be part of the problem with the charges, but the phone records should help with that. Charge all three. Then interrogate. I'm good to go with that. I think evil produced evil in this case.

Nature/Nurture Im still out on that. I was a product of something similar and I knew when I was 10 that there was somethng very very wrong. I became who I became in life because I needed to go over to the "good side" and not ever be like those people who raised me. It was mandatory for me. Sometimes I still see shades, of their evil. But for the most part, not becoming like my Bio Parents is what helped me in life. Im proud of that, proud to say "wow I got away from that" it was hard I was homeless at times but I would never ever adopt their doctrines toward life. I have my own. I got out. Casey should have done that when she had the chance. She also needed to give that child up for adoption. How she must hate her mother, for making this happen, everyday of her life. Think about it. Living a life you never wanted, for 3 plus years...can you imagine the hatred that would have built? Having Caylee did NOT bring this woman around, it only pushed her off the deep end.

I think a mental health defense is in the works, but then I say how did she get released then there were two mental evals that she had to PASS? And of course; we do not see her in any type of therapy or counseling right now either, coz, she is just fine. RIght?

Thank you dots, for sharing your personal history. You are to be commended for breaking the mold, that is not an easy thing to do, and you are living proof that people do not need to use their childhood experiences as an excuse for bad behavior.
For you:rose:

[Boxer]

I thought the search at the Volusia County home was a couple of weeks ago and that the interview of the Volusia family was yesterday. Was I wrong?

[beetlebrow]

Why the heck does she keep looking off to her side? It's like she's looking to someone else for approval of what she's saying. IMO.

Its easy to lose your train of thought when u are making it up as u go along........:rolleyes:

[rosejustrose]

Excellent point. :cool:

That's not going to fly in front of a jury. imo

Sure it will. She was making sure there were no prickly bamboo shoots in the yard so Caylee wouldn't step on them when the kidnapper, Zanny, returned her. IMO.

:rolleyes:

[AJandTam]

What I truly believed happened to Caylee. Casey wanted to hang out at the club (the one place that she couldn't take Caylee), so she bought her some pizza, gave her something to sleep and put her in the trunk of the car. She couldn't just leave her in the front of the car because someone would have seen the child and called the police. Casey then partied at the club, probably left with her boyfriend to go back to his place and couldn't very well say "Oh by the way my daughter is in the trunk? So she left her there and the next day found her deceased. She then had 30 days in which to dispose of the body.

She had to act the same as she would ordinarily act so that it wouldn't cause suspicion. Seeing as she already is such a good liar, it came easy. And, i am more then sure the body will never appear. So if Casey doesn't fess up, no one will ever know, except for Casey.

In the interim, Casey focused on the best lie she could come up with to try and save herself.

Casey obviously lied all her life and got away with it. I guess her family never thought it would get to this, so they are now blaming themselves and protecting Casey from their guilt..


JMO

I think your theory is a good one. I wonder if anyone noticed Casey leaving the club and coming back alot. Like if she went to make sure Caylee wasn't getting her into trouble???

[nana6]

Baez needs to do himself and the Anthonys a favor and find them a qualified defense attorney. His performance to date indicates he is way in over his head. That's great for the prosecution, though. :biggrin:

ITA this is a high profile case and the Anthonys and media have made it that way. Now they need a very high profile attorney and all that goes with a case like this that that attorney can bring, i,e, a group of attorneys that focus on nothing but big time cases like this one. He needs help. I wonder when it will change for him? Either when he comes to his senses and realizes he wants help OR when he decides he better bail because these people are carzy IMO of course

[nana6]

ITA this is a high profile case and the Anthonys and media have made it that way. Now they need a very high profile attorney and all that goes with a case like this that that attorney can bring, i,e, a group of attorneys that focus on nothing but big time cases like this one. He needs help. I wonder when it will change for him? Either when he comes to his senses and realizes he wants help OR when he decides he better bail because these people are carzy IMO of course

I believe I meant crazy not carzy!!!!

[Barbara fl.]

I love the way so many people just can't/won't wrap their heads around the idea that Casey was capable of intentionally murdering Caylee. And everybody wonders why CA and GA are so deep in denial!


Putting your child in the trunk of a car is "MURDER", it is NO accident and Casey knows this only too well. Had this been an accident, Casey would have fessed up by now. But there is NO way, placing your child in the trunk of a car would be considered an accident. I always said from day one that "this was no accident". It can NOT even be considered that she didn't know what could happen in doing this. It was murder.....

[margaritaville]

I don't think a critter would drag it anywhere from the yard. I do think the Anthonys' dogs might have been sniffing around, though. They sure liked Caylee's bed, too. I wonder if LE checked that bed...imo



speaking of dogs ect.

Was the shovel ever sniffed by the cadaver dogs? and if so was there a hit of decomp on the shovel?

TIA

[~jomomma~]

the garbage is gone!

there was a car sitting there (unless the cam was stuck) for a bit.
(not the van)

or did the garbage truck come already?

just curious!!

[rosejustrose]

If they don't still act on tips it would prejudice the case (if it ever gets to the jury) that LE did not follow any and all leads. Seeing as a body has not surfaced they have to check all leads just like all the sightings of Lacy proved wrong, but it has to be checked. It seems that Florida doesn't want to leave any door unopened. I could accept this, if there was an arrest for murder in the making...But I am starting to have my doubts on Florida being capable of trying Casey without a body...

Interesting comment. IMO it will never get to a jury trial. I think the Anthonys will realize Baez is in over his head and get a good defense lawyer who will work a plea deal out. Casey isn't so stupid or cocky that she'd risk a trial by jury in FL, JMO.

[kakax]

Can you imagine what the defense would do with that at trial?


This incident happened on August 15th. Were the results back at that time?

[Rebel Rouzer]

I give up, i'm no lynn gweeney. :(

I can't find the conditions of her home confinement or the article about the beer bottles.

Fudge.

I can never find the links after I have read them and closed them. I should have started keeping a file every time Lynn posted one of the links.

[hamebone]

I thought the search at the Volusia County home was a couple of weeks ago and that the interview of the Volusia family was yesterday. Was I wrong?


Thats what I thought, it was awhile back and they put it out yesterday, to show that LE had at some point looked for a live Caylee.

[shelbar53]

speaking of dogs ect.

Was the shovel ever sniffed by the cadaver dogs? and if so was there a hit of decomp on the shovel?

TIA
LE took the shovel and it was stated the shovel wasnt used since casey used it...its part of the evidence collected in the 400 page doc

[AJandTam]

I agree. She was demanding and insistent. She didn't mention the bat. imo

Nope no mention of the bat. No fear of her parents safety. No, I wish they wouldn't go out there type of thing. Her main goal seemed to be describing the proof available to prove what she was saying.. To bad she didn't focus on proving what happened to Caylee.

[Snoopy50]

I believe I meant crazy not carzy!!!!

Oh drats....I really LIKED carzy better.;)

[Barbara fl.]

You forgot about the chloroform.



That was probably used to make her sleep the whole night...But, in any case....Casey murdered Caylee...no doubt...

[brodysho]

speaking of dogs ect.

Was the shovel ever sniffed by the cadaver dogs? and if so was there a hit of decomp on the shovel?

TIA

I don't believe the shovel was ever spoken of again after LE got it from the neighbor? Someone correct me if i'm wrong.
You'd think that after all these "leaks" something would've been said.
Who knows with this case anymore.

[Joan Weiss]

Correct. No alcohol on the premises. Remember when someone told thaat there were beer bottles in the trash and the judge said he'd let it slide?It says "Refrain from consuming." It doesn't say no alcohol on the premises.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42181239.pdf

[margaritaville]

LE took the shovel and it was stated the shovel wasnt used since casey used it...its part of the evidence collected in the 400 page doc

Thanks..so they have not reported yet what was found on the shovel and they still have it............Great....Thanks!!!! :)

[Joan Weiss]

That was probably used to make her sleep the whole night...But, in any case....Casey murdered Caylee...no doubt...She researched it. She had to know it was dangerous. The report was that the car "reeked."

That's a very cowardly way to kill. imo

[AJandTam]

Maybe I should have said, *itchy and demanding instead .. :D


Sorry forgot to say Good Morning earlier. This girl makes me so mad. Grrrrrrr I forget what i'm doing...

Well, the poor thang might have broken a nail calling the LE. That's distracting ya know....Gawd, poor thang has to do everything. Can't her parents call the police before they go out w/bats. Sheesh..

[kakax]

These are the people who were involved with the bat scuffle the other night....

Brian Bounds and his daughter Brooke were among the group that yelled at the Anthonys, threw rocks and coins at the house and beat on the garage door. But they defended their actions once George Anthony came outside.

"He come out at us in the wrong way," said Brooke Bounds. "He come out with a bat, charging at us."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17510586/detail.html

[Velouria]

Clever liars give details, but the cleverest don't.
Anonymous

Thinking of Scott and his phone calls to Amber Frey...

"And I'm standing near the Eiffel Tower, and the fireworks are unreal, and they're playing all these American pop songs."

Cindy is full of it.

[WillowInFlight]

Interesting comment. IMO it will never get to a jury trial. I think the Anthonys will realize Baez is in over his head and get a good defense lawyer who will work a plea deal out. Casey isn't so stupid or cocky that she'd risk a trial by jury in FL, JMO.

I disagree to a point, I do think they will get rid of "Grinnie", but I do think this will go before a jury.

[EGirl]

As most of you already know TES suffered some damage in the wake of hurricane Ike.

I came on the board this morning and realized it's just more of the same. No new news. And, it FRUSTRATES me. Then I realized that the only useful thing I could do for Caylee is support thoses that really are searching for her.

Even if it's only $5.... try to stop by the TES site and help them out if you can.


:patriot:

[Mairi II]

What I truly believed happened to Caylee. Casey wanted to hang out at the club (the one place that she couldn't take Caylee), so she bought her some pizza, gave her something to sleep and put her in the trunk of the car. She couldn't just leave her in the front of the car because someone would have seen the child and called the police. Casey then partied at the club, probably left with her boyfriend to go back to his place and couldn't very well say "Oh by the way my daughter is in the trunk? So she left her there and the next day found her deceased. She then had 30 days in which to dispose of the body.

She had to act the same as she would ordinarily act so that it wouldn't cause suspicion. Seeing as she already is such a good liar, it came easy. And, i am more then sure the body will never appear. So if Casey doesn't fess up, no one will ever know, except for Casey.

In the interim, Casey focused on the best lie she could come up with to try and save herself.

Casey obviously lied all her life and got away with it. I guess her family never thought it would get to this, so they are now blaming themselves and protecting Casey from their guilt..


JMO

I don't think she'd put Caylee in the trunk to party if she had any plans of Caylee ever seeing Cindy again. Just MO, but I think she viewed Caylee as an adversary/competition - not like a daughter at all - fearful of what Caylee would tell Grandma.

I think she'd be very careful of mistreatment of Caylee unless she intended for her never to see Grandma again. Furthering that, maybe she did, indeed, accidentally hurt her pretty bad - like getting frustrated with Caylee - and hurt her by pushing her or something. Not wanting Cindy to know, she "did what she had to do" to prevent that.

[Joan Weiss]

Nope no mention of the bat. No fear of her parents safety. No, I wish they wouldn't go out there type of thing. Her main goal seemed to be describing the proof available to prove what she was saying.. To bad she didn't focus on proving what happened to Caylee.Yep. She said her parents went out there and there's going to be a fight. She omitted the bat.

Yeh, she does know how to call 911, and she had all the details in place. Not good for her case, imo.

[MyrDawn]

It's really simple: She said on tape "ive given you a month"
She KNEW.

Dots

Buy why would she do that? Why call 911? Calling 911 is what alerted the LE there was a problem. Does she wish for her family to be arrested?

Dots, I'm just trying to understand your reasoning for why Cindy, if she was involved in Caylees disappearance, would want the LE brought into it when it would have been so simple just to keep quiet and let everyone think Casey and Caylee had moved.

As far as that "I've given you a month" it could also mean she didn't go looking for Casey for a month.

[Barbara fl.]

Interesting comment. IMO it will never get to a jury trial. I think the Anthonys will realize Baez is in over his head and get a good defense lawyer who will work a plea deal out. Casey isn't so stupid or cocky that she'd risk a trial by jury in FL, JMO.


The only problem with that is that on murder cases in a state that the death penalty could apply, a trial will be automatic even with a plea deal. It would have to determine the extent of the cause of death. Even if they removed the death penalty as a deal, a trial would still take place to determine the amount of time behind bars..

[hamebone]

As most of you already know TES suffered some damage in the wake of hurricane Ike.

I came on the board this morning and realized it's just more of the same. No new news. And, it FRUSTRATES me. Then I realized that the only useful thing I could do for Caylee is support thoses that really are searching for her.

Even if it's only $5.... try to stop by the TES site and help them out if you can.


:patriot:

ITA...:beer:

[Joan Weiss]

I disagree to a point, I do think they will get rid of "Grinnie", but I do think this will go before a jury.I agree with you.

[Barbara fl.]

She researched it. She had to know it was dangerous. The report was that the car "reeked."

That's a very cowardly way to kill. imo

I could not agree with you more....She IS a coward...

[rosejustrose]

The only problem with that is that on murder cases in a state that the death penalty could apply, a trial will be automatic even with a plea deal. It would have to determine the extent of the cause of death. Even if they removed the death penalty as a deal, a trial would still take place to determine the amount of time behind bars..


Thanks, Barbara, I did not know that.:read:

[Boxer]

Buy why would she do that? Why call 911? Calling 911 is what alerted the LE there was a problem. Does she wish for her family to be arrested?

Dots, I'm just trying to understand your reasoning for why Cindy, if she was involved in Caylees disappearance, would want the LE brought into it when it would have been so simple just to keep quiet and let everyone think Casey and Caylee had moved.

Who knows what story Cindy had been given before they had such a big audience:shrug: We might never know what conversations if any took place during the month Cindy gave Casey...

[Snoopy50]

As most of you already know TES suffered some damage in the wake of hurricane Ike.

I came on the board this morning and realized it's just more of the same. No new news. And, it FRUSTRATES me. Then I realized that the only useful thing I could do for Caylee is support thoses that really are searching for her.

Even if it's only $5.... try to stop by the TES site and help them out if you can.


:patriot:

Thanks for the reminder.....I will go take care of that today.:seeya:

[MyrDawn]

I agree. She was demanding and insistent. She didn't mention the bat. imo

Very demanding! And, in some places she sounded downright indignant. I thought that was hilarious!

[Rayosunshine]

Yet Padilla said right on the news that Casey NEVER spoke to him..now hes saying she told him a different story..


Was the ride home from jail when Padilla bonded her out the firs time the only time he was in Casey's immediate presence? I thought I remembered a video where Padilla said all Casey said in the vehicle was thank you.

Was Padilla ever inside the Anthony home? Can't remember, but don't think so.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Boxer]

But how, if LE is DNA evidence Caylee has died, why are they out entertaining live sightings, that seems insane. moo

because the story put out yesterday was a couple of weeks back. There has not been a date shown for the swarming of the Volusia home...

[Joan Weiss]

Buy why would she do that? Why call 911? Calling 911 is what alerted the LE there was a problem. Does she wish for her family to be arrested?

Dots, I'm just trying to understand your reasoning for why Cindy, if she was involved in Caylees disappearance, would want the LE brought into it when it would have been so simple just to keep quiet and let everyone think Casey and Caylee had moved.

As far as that "I've given you a month" it could also mean she didn't go looking for Casey for a month.I think it's pretty clear that when Cindy gets angry, she loses all reason. That has been demonstrated by her reaction to the protesters. imo

[concernedmom]

This incident happened on August 15th. Were the results back at that time?




http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/girl_mistaken_for_caylee_anthony.html
Girl Mistaken For Caylee Anthony
Kaylee's mother, Kim, said during the early morning hours of Aug. 15, Sheriff's deputies knocked on her door and demanded proof Kaylee was her daughter.



You are correct. Sounds like these people are sick of Anthonys accusing LE of not looking for a live Caylee .

[AJandTam]

Yep. She said her parents went out there and there's going to be a fight. She omitted the bat.

Yeh, she does know how to call 911, and she had all the details in place. Not good for her case, imo.

Yep and she didn't give a care if the parents were going out there to fight. Nor did she have any concept of them doing so was a bad idea. It's those other peoples fault. Her "Father" and "Mother" had to do it. It shows thier love for "HER".

[nana6]

Thinking of Scott and his phone calls to Amber Frey...

"And I'm standing near the Eiffel Tower, and the fireworks are unreal, and they're playing all these American pop songs."

Cindy is full of it.

Right!! And remember when Scott said that a barking dog kept him up all night or something like that?

[rosejustrose]

Who knows what story Cindy had been given before they had such a big audience:shrug: We might never know what conversations if any took place during the month Cindy gave Casey...

Morning, Boxer! I agree. I think Casey was nasty to her mom for the entire month putting her off from seeing Caylee. IMO she led Cindy to believe that Caylee was just fine but that she, Casey, was not going to let Cindy near her. I think finding the car at the impound is what really spurred Cindy into action. I do not think Cindy knew Caylee was gone until that 3rd call to 911 and at that point I don't think she cared that getting LE involved would rock their world. JMO.

[Boxer]

Was the ride home from jail when Padilla bonded her out the firs time the only time he was in Casey's immediate presence? I thought I remembered a video where Padilla said all Casey said in the vehicle was thank you.

Was Padilla ever inside the Anthony home? Can't remember, but don't think so.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

well, he said he ate some of the delivered pizza...:D

[Joan Weiss]

Yet Padilla said right on the news that Casey NEVER spoke to him..now hes saying she told him a different story..IIRC, that information came from Robert Dick. He also said that Casey was hitting on Dick. imo

[poplife]

I couldn't believe the obsessive phone dialing that was shown on NG last night. That girl has a problem.

4:01, 4:01, 4:02, 4:03, 4:03, etc...

[hamebone]

I don't think she'd put Caylee in the trunk to party if she had any plans of Caylee ever seeing Cindy again. Just MO, but I think she viewed Caylee as an adversary/competition - not like a daughter at all - fearful of what Caylee would tell Grandma.

I think she'd be very careful of mistreatment of Caylee unless she intended for her never to see Grandma again. Furthering that, maybe she did, indeed, accidentally hurt her pretty bad - like getting frustrated with Caylee - and hurt her by pushing her or something. Not wanting Cindy to know, she "did what she had to do" to prevent that.


If there was a big blow out on the 15th.

After Cindy got back from seeing her parents and learning of the money Casey had stolen from them.
I can see Casey leaving that night and Cindy telling her she will take Caylee away from her. Casey it seems to me made sure she wouldnt. I think she out right killed her.

[rosejustrose]

Was the ride home from jail when Padilla bonded her out the firs time the only time he was in Casey's immediate presence? I thought I remembered a video where Padilla said all Casey said in the vehicle was thank you.

Was Padilla ever inside the Anthony home? Can't remember, but don't think so.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I recall exactly the same thing. IMO.

[SavannahStar]

Putting your child in the trunk of a car is "MURDER", it is NO accident and Casey knows this only too well. Had this been an accident, Casey would have fessed up by now. But there is NO way, placing your child in the trunk of a car would be considered an accident. I always said from day one that "this was no accident". It can NOT even be considered that she didn't know what could happen in doing this. It was murder.....

I agree that if Casey put an alive Caylee in the trunk of her car and she died there, that is murder.

But I am not yet convinced that is what happened.

[Joan Weiss]

Can you provide a link, so we can help?CW won't allow soliciting for $$ on this board. You can google it. Texas Equusearch.

[Mairi II]

Was the ride home from jail when Padilla bonded her out the firs time the only time he was in Casey's immediate presence? I thought I remembered a video where Padilla said all Casey said in the vehicle was thank you.

Was Padilla ever inside the Anthony home? Can't remember, but don't think so.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

He said he was in the house one time. In the kitchen, I believe. I'm unlcear whether he talked to Cindy or Casey, though, on that one occasion. It was one of them, but I've been confused on that detail.

[MyrDawn]

I think it's pretty clear that when Cindy gets angry, she loses all reason. That has been demonstrated by her reaction to the protesters. imo

Do you think, like Dots, that Cindy had something to do with Caylee's disappearance and then got angry with Casey a month later and that's why she called 911?

I just don't think she'd have involved the LE if she'd had anything to do with what happened to Caylee, no matter how angry she got at Casey or anyone.

JMO

[Snoopy50]

Right!! And remember when Scott said that a barking dog kept him up all night or something like that?
YES!!!! It was HIS dog!!!!:cuss:

[SavannahStar]

It says "Refrain from consuming." It doesn't say no alcohol on the premises.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42181239.pdf


Thank you for finding that Joan.

[nc1948]

I though I read that Cindy is on personal leave but that George was still going to work, occassionally, when not fighting in the streets, that is. JMO.

He said recently he was searching 24/7 for Caylee

[Joan Weiss]

I agree that if Casey put an alive Caylee in the trunk of her car and she died there, that is murder.

But I am not yet convinced that is what happened.What about the cadaver dogs?

[beetlebrow]

Does this sound familiar.....

http://www.narcissisticabuse.com/scottpeterson.html

[Joan Weiss]

Thank you for finding that Joan.YW. I posted the link on the links sticky a few weeks ago, pg 15.

[Barbara fl.]

I still do not believe in any way at all that the GP's were aware or involved in any way. However, I do believe they are covering up for their daughter, now that they do know she is deceased.....Which is not the best thing to do....First get the closure that you need and then get a defnse for your daughter to help her...

Casey needs to be in jail before someone gets hurt in front of her parents house....

[martha]

Good morning everyone. May today be the day we find out what happened to caylee or she is brought home. I so want her to be alive and safe but for a lot of reasons i keep thinking she is now with us anymore. jmho:rose:

[shelbar53]

I recall exactly the same thing. IMO.

Yes lenny said he was in there for 10 minutes when casey started telling him about the crazy nanny story and he told her he didnt believe her so she kicked him out. I would like to hear how she asked him to leave. if it was a tirade with cursing or if she politely asked him to leave

[nana6]

Yep. She said her parents went out there and there's going to be a fight. She omitted the bat.

Yeh, she does know how to call 911, and she had all the details in place. Not good for her case, imo.

I also believe I heard Cindy say on her call to 911 that her husband is out there and she is afraid bla bla bal but then she said she was afraid he might leave. Now, I have heard her say this before. She is afraid he will leave. I don't see how they can survive in marriage after this. Sometimes if life things like this either draw a couple closer or tear them apart.. If they were rocky in the first place I do't think they will make it. But, this is not about them. Where is Caylee. Geez, they get me off the subject!!!!

[Rebel Rouzer]

As most of you already know TES suffered some damage in the wake of hurricane Ike.

I came on the board this morning and realized it's just more of the same. No new news. And, it FRUSTRATES me. Then I realized that the only useful thing I could do for Caylee is support thoses that really are searching for her.

Even if it's only $5.... try to stop by the TES site and help them out if you can.


:patriot:

Hi EG. :seeya: Yes it is very frustrating. I know TES needs help that's a great idea . Is there a way to help the OCSO search teams too?

[Joan Weiss]

Do you think, like Dots, that Cindy had something to do with Caylee's disappearance and then got angry with Casey a month later and that's why she called 911?

I just don't think she'd have involved the LE if she'd had anything to do with what happened to Caylee, no matter how angry she got at Casey or anyone.

JMOWhy no, whatever gave you the idea that I thought that? :confused:

I don't think Cindy had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. I think she loves Caylee intensely. imo

[canada]

Question:

Does anybody think the prosecutor is getting ready to take this to a GJ? Is that how the process works? (different process in Canada) and then the GJ decides what charges to lay? How does that usually work and what kind of time frame would we be looking at?

[WillowInFlight]

Excessive phone calling except for the police & Nanny.

Oh please, give the girl a break. She only just learned to call 911 the other night. :biggrin:

[Rebel Rouzer]

I couldn't believe the obsessive phone dialing that was shown on NG last night. That girl has a problem.

4:01, 4:01, 4:02, 4:03, 4:03, etc...

lol Yes she does. Someone called Casey something lastnight on the show. I forge the name. Something like Compulsive phone talker or dialer something. Antone remember what they called it?

[rosejustrose]

I still do not believe in any way at all that the GP's were aware or involved in any way. However, I do believe they are covering up for their daughter, now that they do know she is deceased.....Which is not the best thing to do....First get the closure that you need and then get a defnse for your daughter to help her...

Casey needs to be in jail before someone gets hurt in front of her parents house....


I have a bad feeling that George knew Caylee was deceased well before July 15th. JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

He said he was in the house one time. In the kitchen, I believe. I'm unlcear whether he talked to Cindy or Casey, though, on that one occasion. It was one of them, but I've been confused on that detail.It was Casey. IIRC, she started talking about Zanny, and he cut her off saying that was bee ess. She then clammed up and ordered him out of HER house. imo

[Armchairdet]

These winners speak for themselves. Itchy does most the talking, but I think as I understand it Slackjaw Sam agrees with her.

Go home crazy protestors.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17503402/index.html

[shelbar53]

Why no, whatever gave you the idea that I thought that? :confused:

I don't think Cindy had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. I think she loves Caylee intensely. imo
I think cindys anger has a hair pin trigger and she was just mad at casey for stealing the greatgrand dads money....the 3rd 911 call is when she mentioned caylee missing...i think that call was made out of anger at casey...not because her granddaughter was missing...just a reaction to being mad at casey, a call that i bet now she regrets.

[Joan Weiss]

:lol:

Casey was hitting on Dick ..
Surprise, surprise ..

Maybe she just likes Dick ..Lol...not a surprise, eh? She needs more than one...(admirer, that is..) imo

[beetlebrow]

Thanks Snoopy!

And you know what BB? The body language on that one tape is KILLER it's a field day for experts!!! She's all over the place. Lie after lie. Well it's just too much isnt it?

Yikes!!! I said Yikes early on and I am sorry they lost their grandchild but I hold them reponsible and have since early on. BECAUSE of what they did on tape and because of what they've said, and done, or NOT done....

:rose: For little Caylee, wherever you are baby. The whole world loves you now. And our hearts just break for you too.

Dots

See ya laters, am off to listen to the oJ trial, try not to think about other "things" in life right now and thrw in a pork roast. Have a good friday y'all. You're my board buddies, thanks for that. :rose:


I don't think Cindy knew about it until after the 911 call. IMO Cindy wants to control everything.......George and Lee knew this...they knew that if she found out she would try take over and become enraged if they disagreed with her. She would be a liability because she is so emotional. I'm sure this is not the first time this family has kept things from Cindy because of her controlling nature....;)

[aubrey04]

Putting your child in the trunk of a car is "MURDER", it is NO accident and Casey knows this only too well. Had this been an accident, Casey would have fessed up by now. But there is NO way, placing your child in the trunk of a car would be considered an accident. I always said from day one that "this was no accident". It can NOT even be considered that she didn't know what could happen in doing this. It was murder.....

I don't think it was an accident either, I think it was murder. But not intentional murder, IMO.. I think she either drugged Caylee and put her in the trunk to sleep while she (Casey) went clubbing.. and when she came out Caylee was dead - either from lack of oxygen or from the drugs..

Or Caylee was upset, crying and couldn't be consoled enough to quiet.. and then Casey snapped and killed her in a fit of rage.

Neither are premeditated but they aren't "accidents" either.

[Joan Weiss]

I think cindys anger has a hair pin trigger and she was just mad at casey for stealing the greatgrand dads money....the 3rd 911 call is when she mentioned caylee missing...i think that call was made out of anger at casey...not because her granddaughter was missing...just a reaction to being mad at casey, a call that i bet now she regrets.I think you've got it.

[nana6]

:)Jenny, the bold is blinding me ..

Please .. :cool:

Michele, that is soo funny.. I love the bold typing. I am getting old!!! It helps me!! 60 in November!!!

[concernedmom]

Boy, she sure does!



She seems to have OCD whatever she does.

[Joan Weiss]

I don't think it was an accident either, I think it was murder. But not intentional murder, IMO.. I think she either drugged Caylee and put her in the trunk to sleep while she (Casey) went clubbing.. and when she came out Caylee was dead - either from lack of oxygen or from the drugs..

Or Caylee was upset, crying and couldn't be consoled enough to quiet.. and then Casey snapped and killed her in a fit of rage.

Neither are premeditated but they aren't "accidents" either.It's hard to wrap your mind around a premeditated, intentional murder, huh?

Think chloroform research on the computer. It kills, it's illegal. That's in the "research." imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

Lol...not a surprise, eh? She needs more than one...(admirer, that is..) imo

With all the affection Baez has been showing Casey lately I'm surprised questions aren't being asked or an investigation in to his conduct with Casey hasn't been done. Considering what everyone knows about how she conducts herself around men. IMO

[MyrDawn]

Snipped for length...

The 911 calls were their lame attempt at reporting her as "missing" because eventually they had to. Had to come up with a story. This is where the building of the my space page, and the date of the 9th, the gas cans all of that was "born" and I think it's a really bad plot for sure. Not very smart. Over thinking a crime, GA had input. ...

Thanks for explaining Dots. I don't believe the same as you, but I appreciate your reasons for feeling that way.

[Boxer]

Question:

Does anybody think the prosecutor is getting ready to take this to a GJ? Is that how the process works? (different process in Canada) and then the GJ decides what charges to lay? How does that usually work and what kind of time frame would we be looking at?


I've been wondering about that. All these polygraphs and things going on, LE going out of state...seems to me a grand jury would be a good thing to do.

[curiousD]

Excuse me if this has already been discussed..Im not trying to change the subject but is anyone else thouroughly disguested that the Guardian Angels are helping the A's?
I would like to see the A's pay for the security with the money they have collected during this fiasco.
The neighbors shouldnt have to put up with this and the A's should pay for thier security.
Perhaps the HOA should hire security and bill it to the A's

[FrankieBones1]

These are the people who were involved with the bat scuffle the other night....

Brian Bounds and his daughter Brooke were among the group that yelled at the Anthonys, threw rocks and coins at the house and beat on the garage door. But they defended their actions once George Anthony came outside.

"He come out at us in the wrong way," said Brooke Bounds. "He come out with a bat, charging at us."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17510586/detail.html
So they actually admit to throwing rocks, too? I'd be too embarassed to.

[SavannahStar]

Jenny, the bold is blinding me ..

Please .. :cool:


Ditto!.........

[Boxer]

Excuse me if this has already been discussed..Im not trying to change the subject but is anyone else thouroughly disguested that the Guardian Angels are helping the A's?
I would like to see the A's pay for the security with the money they have collected during this fiasco.
The neighbors shouldnt have to put up with this and the A's should pay for thier security.
Perhaps the HOA should hire security and bill it to the A's


I'm not upset. The last thing we need is somebody's chalk outline on the driveway

[Rebel Rouzer]

I don't think Cindy knew about it until after the 911 call. IMO Cindy wants to control everything.......George and Lee knew this...they knew that if she found out she would try take over and become enraged if they disagreed with her. She would be a liability because she is so emotional. I'm sure this is not the first time this family has kept things from Cindy because of her controlling nature....;)

It seems everyone in that family gets emotional or angry except for Casey. the only time i've noticed her emotional was watching her father speak during the bond hearing. She did get mad on the phone when she was arrested. so a few times she was able to muster up some type of emotion.

[MyrDawn]

Why no, whatever gave you the idea that I thought that? :confused:

I don't think Cindy had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. I think she loves Caylee intensely. imo

I didn't think you'd changed your belief so much since yesterday, but it surpised and confused me when you responded to my question to Dots about why Cindy would call 911 if she was involved in Caylees disappearance with what looked like a reason she would.

[Joan Weiss]

These winners speak for themselves. Itchy does most the talking, but I think as I understand it Slackjaw Sam agrees with her.

Go home crazy protestors.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17503402/index.htmlhttp://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey1908sep19,0,7734566.story

Some demonstrators are tourists or college students, but many are stay-at-home mothers from east Orange...

[aubrey04]

I still do not believe in any way at all that the GP's were aware or involved in any way. However, I do believe they are covering up for their daughter, now that they do know she is deceased.....Which is not the best thing to do....First get the closure that you need and then get a defnse for your daughter to help her...

Casey needs to be in jail before someone gets hurt in front of her parents house....

Once again, I agree. I think they are actively helping cover this all up. That's why they continue Casey's lies when being interviewed. I think they know Caylee is gone but think it was an accident.. and they just want to make sure they don't "lose" Casey, too.

Some might think what they're doing is justified since it is protecting their daughter, but I do NOT. It is in fact, illegal to lie under oath and try and derail (hinder) the police investigation.

The way they are covering for her has crossed the line into an illegal act on the part of George and Cindy, IMO. Whether prosecutors could prove it -- well, I don't know about that. But it's just my opinion due to the variations of the lies the Anthony's are spouting out. They have contradicted themselves more times than I can count.

I've said it before and I will say it again-- they need to cut the ties that bind them (the ties = Casey and her lies). It's going to kill them: emotionally, physically and possibly financially.

jmo

[SavannahStar]

Excuse me if this has already been discussed..Im not trying to change the subject but is anyone else thouroughly disguested that the Guardian Angels are helping the A's?
I would like to see the A's pay for the security with the money they have collected during this fiasco.
The neighbors shouldnt have to put up with this and the A's should pay for thier security.
Perhaps the HOA should hire security and bill it to the A's

I am very glad the Guardian Angels are there, for everyone's protection.

[shelbar53]

With all the affection Baez has been showing Casey lately I'm surprised questions aren't being asked or an investigation in to his conduct with Casey hasn't been done. Considering what everyone knows about how she conducts herself around men. IMO
Maybe thats another reason..high profile defense attorney baez was in such a huff yesterday:)
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

[beetlebrow]

Did anyone read this.....Tony was Casee's Amber........

http://www.narcissisticabuse.com/scottpeterson.html

[WillowInFlight]

I think cindys anger has a hair pin trigger and she was just mad at casey for stealing the greatgrand dads money....the 3rd 911 call is when she mentioned caylee missing...i think that call was made out of anger at casey...not because her granddaughter was missing...just a reaction to being mad at casey, a call that i bet now she regrets.

I think the first call was made out of anger and spite, I think the third call was made out of panic, she knew at that point the seriousness of the situation. Note that Casey confided in Lee and not her parents.

[Armchairdet]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey1908sep19,0,7734566.story

Some demonstrators are tourists or college students, but many are stay-at-home mothers from east Orange...



Yeah? Well what part of stay-at-home do they not understand?

[beetlebrow]

Yeah? Well what part of stay-at-home do they not understand?

What part of stay IN home do the Anthonys not understand?

[WillowInFlight]

I am very glad the Guardian Angels are there, for everyone's protection.

Did they say if the GA are from NYC?

[Rebel Rouzer]

Maybe thats another reason..high profile defense attorney baez was in such a huff yesterday:)
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US


Oh wow he didn't seem happy with Casey yesterday not even close to being as cuddly and effectionate or gentleman like holding the door open and closing it for her like in the past. Wonder what was up with that. He seems upset in that clip.

[Armchairdet]

What part of stay IN home do the Anthonys not understand?



My mistake, I thought only Casey was on home confinement. Yes, if George and Cindy are, they should not go outside their home either.

[Destini]

State files more charges
11 a.m. Prosecutors filed three more economic crime charges against Casey Anthony.

This morning, prosecutors formally charged her with fraudulent use of personal identification information, forgery of a check and uttering a forged check.

These charges are connected to checks stolen from one of Anthony's friends. Anthony borrowed the woman's car while she was on vacation. When she returned, her friend learned the checks were missing and her bank account had a zero balance.

Including today's charges, the state has filed a total of 13 counts in connection to the checks.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony091908,0,2315872.story?page=1

[WillowInFlight]

What part of stay IN home do the Anthonys not understand?

.....:beer:.....

[FrankieBones1]

They showed two of them on NG, standing back to back in the driveway. This was around 8:15 p.m.

I hope they aren't inside the house. That would sicken me to think that Casey's security was so important and would lessen them in my eyes considerably.

Oh, that's right. It was after eight. Were they seen outside for most of the night?

[aubrey04]

It's hard to wrap your mind around a premeditated, intentional murder, huh?

Think chloroform research on the computer. It kills, it's illegal. That's in the "research." imo

Yeah true, Joan. But I am not sure the chloroform was used to kill Caylee. I think it could have been used to clean the trunk.. and if it was used to drug Caylee - there is no proof that Caylee's death was intentional. Regardless, it is MURDER, IMO.. It just might not rise to 1st degree murder.

but it REALLY depends on the dates for the chloroform searches. Plus, I am still pondering whether Casey intended to kill her parents. I just find it so weird that Casey was telling people she was about to get the Anthony home. It could be just more of Casey's lies, butttttt maybe not. Maybe she intended to kill them and take possession of their home.

Bottom line here - I do NOT believe it was an accident. I believe it was murder, but I am just unsure what to what level/degree the murder rose to (1st degree or 2nd degree).

[beetlebrow]

Did they say if the GA are from NYC?

From the news I read, apparently Florida has its own chapter. I thought they were only in NY.

[nana6]

ok see ya'll later. I have to go away for a couple of hours. Here's to a day of pleasant exchanges on this board!! It got kind of rough last night. Bye and a :rose: for Caylee

[poplife]

How can you say the Guardian Angels being there is bad? They are for good. Peace.

I truly think it's about perception, I think some people are so caught up in their disdain for the Anthonys (except Caylee) that they automatically assume this negative posture.

[girlspell]

Has anybody heard about that trip to California and that marine? The last time Casey was in jail, she told a cell mate (next door) that Caylee was with her ex boyfirend in California.

[FrankieBones1]

"Some words were exchanged between people in the car and the neighbors. Subsequently, neighbors said a Taser was pulled out. It wasn't utilized, but it was activated. The car sped off," Lt. Larry Spahn said.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17510650/detail.html

I am holding off on believing the taser story.

Am still waiting for an arrest in the Thursday a.m. incident (which I believe was staged).

The neighbors are all looking for something, anything, to take to a judge. Does it have to be proven to be true?
Same goes for the night before with the blonde tugging on George's shirt. Could have been a set up as well for the benefit of the judge.

[Joan Weiss]

I didn't think you'd changed your belief so much since yesterday, but it surpised and confused me when you responded to my question to Dots about why Cindy would call 911 if she was involved in Caylees disappearance with what looked like a reason she would.I don't see anything in my post that suggests that. She was upset that she overheard Casey telling Lee that Caylee was "kidnapped," and I think she was filled with rage that Casey lied to her. imo

[WillowInFlight]

From the news I read, apparently Florida has its own chapter. I thought they were only in NY.
I did too, I still remember when they started there.

[Armchairdet]

Has anybody heard about that trip to California and that marine? The last time Casey was in jail, she told a cell mate (next door) that Caylee was with her ex boyfirend in California.

I thought she just told some dude waiting to go in for his court appearance that she was 'with her father' IMO

[nc1948]

Can you imagine what the defense would do with that at trial?

MHO- in a lot of trials the defense says that the LE was fixated on their client from the beginning and did not look any further. I think that is why Le continues to follow any leads. I also think they are like us and would welcome the miracle of finding an alive Caylee.

Just my humble confused opinion.

[shelbar53]

Oh wow he didn't seem happy with Casey yesterday not even close to being as cuddly and effectionate or gentleman like holding the door open and closing it for her like in the past. Wonder what was up with that. He seems upset in that clip.

that was the morning after casey made the 911 calls....im sure he was was very upset about that since it just showed casey knows how to dial 911 and give specific descriptions/details about the "punks" and wanted them arrested......unlike like she did for the kidnapping of her child.

[EGirl]

Has anybody heard about that trip to California and that marine? The last time Casey was in jail, she told a cell mate (next door) that Caylee was with her ex boyfirend in California.

I know this is far fetched......but I wondered why the FBI and OCSD had to go to CA to interview this guy. Do you think it's possible that Casey had already shipped some boxes to CA in preparation to move there?

[Rebel Rouzer]

State files more charges
11 a.m. Prosecutors filed three more economic crime charges against Casey Anthony.

This morning, prosecutors formally charged her with fraudulent use of personal identification information, forgery of a check and uttering a forged check.

These charges are connected to checks stolen from one of Anthony's friends. Anthony borrowed the woman's car while she was on vacation. When she returned, her friend learned the checks were missing and her bank account had a zero balance.

Including today's charges, the state has filed a total of 13 counts in connection to the checks.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony091908,0,2315872.story?page=1


Another weekend in jail maybe?

[WillowInFlight]

I thought she just told some dude waiting to go in for his court appearance that she was 'with her father' IMO

And I thought they discredited what he said. :shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

How can you say the Guardian Angels being there is bad? They are for good. Peace.

I truly think it's about perception, I think some people are so caught up in their disdain for the Anthonys (except Caylee) that they automatically assume this negative posture.I think so, too. The Guardian Angels are highly respected and peaceful. Curtis Sliwa is very courageous. He dared to finger Gotti. imo

[beetlebrow]

State files more charges
11 a.m. Prosecutors filed three more economic crime charges against Casey Anthony.

This morning, prosecutors formally charged her with fraudulent use of personal identification information, forgery of a check and uttering a forged check.

These charges are connected to checks stolen from one of Anthony's friends. Anthony borrowed the woman's car while she was on vacation. When she returned, her friend learned the checks were missing and her bank account had a zero balance.

Including today's charges, the state has filed a total of 13 counts in connection to the checks.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony091908,0,2315872.story?page=1


I can't figure out why they are doing it this way....they must have a reason.

Did you read the rest of the article. Apparently there WAS trouble last night. A protester with a TASER.....neighbors and the GAs got involved. A GA actually jumped on the protesters car.....the protester tried to leave and hit the GA!!!!

[Armchairdet]

I did too, I still remember when they started there.

Living in Central Florida, I understand they have been here for some time due to increased crime. But I have no link, so IMO

[MyrDawn]

I don't see anything in my post that suggests that. She was upset that she overheard Casey telling Lee that Caylee was "kidnapped," and I think she was filled with rage that Casey lied to her. imo

I do understand now, Joan. But, since my question that you responded to was asking Dots why Cindy would call 911 if she was involved in Caylees disappearance, it did give me pause.

[SavannahStar]

Did they say if the GA are from NYC?


I've always assumed that's where GAs are from....I could be wrong. Maybe they have "chapters" around the country....:shrug:

[WillowInFlight]

I know this is far fetched......but I wondered why the FBI and OCSD had to go to CA to interview this guy. Do you think it's possible that Casey had already shipped some boxes to CA in preparation to move there?

If so why would they wait so long?

[concernedmom]

State files more charges
11 a.m. Prosecutors filed three more economic crime charges against Casey Anthony.

This morning, prosecutors formally charged her with fraudulent use of personal identification information, forgery of a check and uttering a forged check.

These charges are connected to checks stolen from one of Anthony's friends. Anthony borrowed the woman's car while she was on vacation. When she returned, her friend learned the checks were missing and her bank account had a zero balance.

Including today's charges, the state has filed a total of 13 counts in connection to the checks.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony091908,0,2315872.story?page=1

So I guess she goes back to jail again today.

[Boxer]

I can't figure out why they are doing it this way....they must have a reason.

Did you read the rest of the article. Apparently there WAS trouble last night. A protester with a TASER.....neighbors and the GAs got involved. A GA actually jumped on the protesters car.....the protester tried to leave and hit the GA!!!!


holy insanity....

[curiousD]

I would think the guardian angels have someone else to protect besides KC.. I would like to see the HOA bring in security and bill it to the Anthonys. Spend some of the money they are collecting over this fiasco.
The neighbors shouldnt have to live in this environment of absurdity, but I just dont think the Guardian angels are the answer.
Kind of makes it seem like the A's are the victims.

[Armchairdet]

And I thought they discredited what he said. :shrug:

I take back what I said. I simply responded to someone who thought it was a prisoner that said she was with a boyfriend in california. I responded with what I thought she said. I did not even come close to saying I believed it, or that it was proven.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I know this is far fetched......but I wondered why the FBI and OCSD had to go to CA to interview this guy. Do you think it's possible that Casey had already shipped some boxes to CA in preparation to move there?

It could be that because he is in the military they have to have a military superior or military attorney pressent when being questioned by civilian LE? I thought I read something about that some where?

Anyone military here that knows about this stuff?

[Joan Weiss]

I know this is far fetched......but I wondered why the FBI and OCSD had to go to CA to interview this guy. Do you think it's possible that Casey had already shipped some boxes to CA in preparation to move there?I don't think she shipped anything. She was living out of shopping bags at Tony's. I think she just wanted a place to land and she didn't have anything of import to tell that guy. imo

[beetlebrow]

How can you say the Guardian Angels being there is bad? They are for good. Peace.

I truly think it's about perception, I think some people are so caught up in their disdain for the Anthonys (except Caylee) that they automatically assume this negative posture.


I thought it would be good to, but did you read about what happened last night (link on this page).......maybe not so good :eek:

[SavannahStar]

How can you say the Guardian Angels being there is bad? They are for good. Peace.

I truly think it's about perception, I think some people are so caught up in their disdain for the Anthonys (except Caylee) that they automatically assume this negative posture.

You are exactly correct. IMO.

[Acorn]

I am very glad the Guardian Angels are there, for everyone's protection.

I love those guys and gals. Every time I see one, I ask if I can give them a hug. They do such fine work in bad neighborhoods who are actually in need of ridding the area of rooted in drug dealers, gang bangers and such...not transient protesters vs. the Anthony hammer, bat, hand and vehicle garbage. If they'd just stay inside (or go inside) and wait until the police come :rolleyes:

I just don't think the Angels are the appropriate 'help' to bring out to that 'hood, though. I know there's a greater need for them elsewhere. A security company would be better.

[FrankieBones1]

Yes, it's our tradition that Blu links the "Light the Candle for Caylee" site. I try to light one everyday. :seeya:

Thanks, Scampi. I was beginning to think I was the only one that thought it was odd.

Speaking of odd...I didn't realize that the woman who was guarding Casey in the house for nine days had a lawyer. This could turn out to be interesting.