Thursday 9/18 Evening

[msgatorslayer]

Looks like its time for a new thread.

Can ya link the candle site for us, Blu?

:seeya:

[happy2bme]

Looks like its time for a new thread.

Can ya link the candle site for us, Blu?

:seeya:


Thanks for starting the thread msgator. Hope this one is a little calmer.:)

[oldbluesmith]

Looks like its time for a new thread.

Can ya link the candle site for us, Blu?

:seeya:
Thanks again for the new thread, MsGatorSlayer. We really appreciate your good works. JMHO

[msgatorslayer]

Thanks for starting the thread msgator. Hope this one is a little calmer.:)

Oh, I didn't read back yet. Yes, I hope it is calmer.

Remember, all, ignore and scroll.:D

Guess nothing is new. My evening news is talking about the hose and bats, lol.

[nutterbutter]

Looks like its time for a new thread.

Can ya link the candle site for us, Blu?

:seeya:

here is link to candle site for anyone wanting to light the way for lil Caylee.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

[AustinsMama]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-offe.html



"Dr. Phil" will offer its "Behind the Headlines" look at the Caylee Anthony case on Monday.

The program airs at 7 p.m. weekdays on WKMG-Channel 6.

The episode taped Wednesday in Los Angeles. The participants include a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D'Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6.

OMG- are they getting paid for this?

[aubrey04]

I am here! Thanks for the new thread! Maybe tempers will calm on this one. :seeya:

[aubrey04]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-offe.html



"Dr. Phil" will offer its "Behind the Headlines" look at the Caylee Anthony case on Monday.

The program airs at 7 p.m. weekdays on WKMG-Channel 6.

The episode taped Wednesday in Los Angeles. The participants include a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D'Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6.

OMG- are they getting paid for this?

Dr. Phil.... Just what is needed for this circus to continue. Why doesn't he stay out of it? Geez.

:punch:

[nutterbutter]

I am here! Thanks for the new thread! Maybe tempers will calm on this one. :seeya:
here is link to camera.



http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[msgatorslayer]

here is link to candle site for anyone wanting to light the way for lil Caylee.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

TY, Nutter.

Come on folks, lets get some of these lit for Caylee. I'd like to propose that everyone take a second to light one whenever a new thread is made. Thats x3 for the 300-400 of us that are usually here.

[Boxer]

Oh, I didn't read back yet. Yes, I hope it is calmer.

Remember, all, ignore and scroll.:D

Guess nothing is new. My evening news is talking about the hose and bats, lol.

I'm trying...I promise

[shelbar53]

article about yuri's accident

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

[shelbar53]

ok, i think this is the link about Yuri's accident

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

[day2day]

TY, Nutter.

Come on folks, lets get some of these lit for Caylee. I'd like to propose that everyone take a second to light one whenever a new thread is made. Thats x3 for the 300-400 of us that are usually here.

Thanks..i lit mine!:rose:

[rosejustrose]

Im lazy, im protesting from my computer chair...typing with one hand and holding up a sign with my other hand.


Just keep your change in your pockets! An LCD screen is not as strong as a garage door.:no:

[beetlebrow]

Looks like its time for a new thread.

Can ya link the candle site for us, Blu?

:seeya:


Thank you for starting this....:)

[True2Blues]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-offe.html



"Dr. Phil" will offer its "Behind the Headlines" look at the Caylee Anthony case on Monday.

The program airs at 7 p.m. weekdays on WKMG-Channel 6.

The episode taped Wednesday in Los Angeles. The participants include a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D'Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6.

OMG- are they getting paid for this?


They said they wouldn't give interviews without pay, so I suppose so. I've never liked or trusted Dr. Phil anyway.

[Rayosunshine]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-offe.html



"Dr. Phil" will offer its "Behind the Headlines" look at the Caylee Anthony case on Monday.

The program airs at 7 p.m. weekdays on WKMG-Channel 6.

The episode taped Wednesday in Los Angeles. The participants include a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D'Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6.

OMG- are they getting paid for this?

I don' t know if I could handle this.
Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[msgatorslayer]

ok, i think this is the link about Yuri's accident

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

Thanks for the link, Shel.

OUCH!! I wish him a speedy recovery. :rose:

Though, I imagine it will be difficult for him to keep his mind off this case. He'll be driving his partner crazy with phone calls, lol

[steffaroob4]

Caylee Look-Alike Leads Deputies To Swarm Volusia County Home (http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news)

[Boxer]

They said they wouldn't give interviews without pay, so I suppose so. I've never liked or trusted Dr. Phil anyway.



yup. maybe they can go to that Dr. Phil House....
:rolleyes:

[bluwaters]

Looks like its time for a new thread.

Can ya link the candle site for us, Blu?

:seeya:

Thanks msgator!

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to begin.


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[True2Blues]

ok, i think this is the link about Yuri's accident

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

It didn't mention in the article exactly what happened. You don't suppose he was clipped by a passing car with no plate, or pushed down stairs from behind or anything like that, do You?

[rosejustrose]

Caylee Look-Alike Leads Deputies To Swarm Volusia County Home (http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news)


I don't see the resemblance but I guess that shoots holes in the Anthony's bogus allegations that LE isn't looking for a live Caylee:rolleyes: When will these people stop lying!!!????

[beetlebrow]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-offe.html



"Dr. Phil" will offer its "Behind the Headlines" look at the Caylee Anthony case on Monday.

The program airs at 7 p.m. weekdays on WKMG-Channel 6.

The episode taped Wednesday in Los Angeles. The participants include a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D'Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6.



OMG- are they getting paid for this?

Oh god......I hope this isn't a "lets all feel sorry for the grandparents" show :rolleyes: I can't print what I think of Dr. Phil here.....:biggrin:

[aubrey04]

ok, i think this is the link about Yuri's accident

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

Thank you. I didn't realize his injuries were that bad. He broke a leg? Poor guy.. Get well soon, Det. Yuri!

[Katprint]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html

FBI agents and Orange County sheriff's detectives plan to extend the Casey Anthony investigation to California.
Does anybody know WHERE in California? I could have sworn I saw Leonard Padilla in Hollister last weekend, but then again lots of guys wear cowboy hats in the agricultural areas.

Also, which military bases are they talking about in that article?

Katprint
Who is pretty sure that Caylee isn't alive and well in California
Always only my own opinions

[shelbar53]

Are you a pretend protester? :D

Hmmm, made me think about that. No im not a protester. If I lived in that area I would probably drive by and rubberneck one time but I wouldnt protest...i could not contribute to the despair the family is feeling. Dont get me wrong I dont like what they are doing but its not my nature to walk around with a sign and yell things hurtful things at people. Strange because I will sit here in the comfort of my home and discuss their actions but face to face with them...naw.

[msgatorslayer]

Hope our Dear NG will play this about 10 times tonght. Play it in slow motion, play it backwards, spead it up. We all need a good laugh about a person who won't call for her own daughter, but will call IF SHE THINKS SHE MIGHT GET HURT. pATETIC , TRULY PATHETIC. I give cudos to the protestors, it will be one of them that will finally break the case.

Oh, I bet she will. It will be a nice break from the Casey interviews she's been playin all week, lmao.

I still haven't listened to it. Only skimmed through an article which transcribed it.

It is sick. She can pick up that phone when her Mom and Dad are in 'danger' but having a Nanny that doesn't come back with her child and disconnects her phone, ah, well, no big deal.:cuss:

[crymeariver2006]

Caylee Look-Alike Leads Deputies To Swarm Volusia County Home (http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news)


Now maybe George and Cindy's belief that nobody is looking for a live Caylee can be put to rest.

(I didn't notice a resemblance though.)

[martha]

I just hope we can find out something about caylee. Let the rest of the people fuss and fight I really don;t care. I just want to know what happened to CAYLEE. I sure hate to see the anthony get rich of a little baby girl that we do not know what happened to her. I so hope le has somethings they or not telling us. When the time comes I pray that who ever hurt this baby gets punished. jmho:rose:

[aubrey04]

Caylee Look-Alike Leads Deputies To Swarm Volusia County Home (http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news)

Great. More people getting pulled into this fiasco. So much for Cindy saying that LE aren't looking for a "live" Caylee, it appears they are taking every tip seriously. Maybe that will shut her up.

By the way, that child looks nothing like Caylee.. IMO.

[rosejustrose]

Does anybody know WHERE in California? I could have sworn I saw Leonard Padilla in Hollister last weekend, but then again lots of guys wear cowboy hats in the agricultural areas.

Also, which military bases are they talking about in that article?

Katprint
Who is pretty sure that Caylee isn't alive and well in California
Always only my own opinions

29 Pines in the Mojave Desert, IIRC.

[steffaroob4]

I don't see the resemblance but I guess that shoots holes in the Anthony's bogus allegations that LE isn't looking for a live Caylee:rolleyes: When will these people stop lying!!!????


It is such a shame, the whole thing.

[WillowInFlight]

Last night while listening to NG, I noticed the odd way she pronounces Caylee's name, and I have seen posted on board that others think so too.

Sounds like, Killee. Or, she says it as close to "kill" as she can, but sounds the "kill" as if it were two syllables. Probably just her accent. Where is she originally from?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
I think Georgia

[Rayosunshine]

Caylee Look-Alike Leads Deputies To Swarm Volusia County Home (http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news)

Somebody needs glasses.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[True2Blues]

I don't see the resemblance but I guess that shoots holes in the Anthony's bogus allegations that LE isn't looking for a live Caylee:rolleyes: When will these people stop lying!!!????


Never. I think to some extent all children have a similar look at that age if their hair is cut the same way, but I don't see any real resemblance otherwise either.

[WillowInFlight]

I believe she's from Georgia.

I think it sounds like she's saying "Kelly".

To me it sounds like Keylee.

[luvinlife]

Oh, I bet she will. It will be a nice break from the Casey interviews she's been playin all week, lmao.

I still haven't listened to it. Only skimmed through an article which transcribed it.

It is sick. She can pick up that phone when her Mom and Dad are in 'danger' but having a Nanny that doesn't come back with her child and disconnects her phone, ah, well, no big deal.:cuss:



Nah I don't think she called because she thought her parents were in danger imo her parents told her to call or she did it because she thought SHE was in danger.moo

[steffaroob4]

I think I'd of dug out a better picture of my child.


It is probable a cute pic, they just have it cropped oddly.

[beetlebrow]

Caylee Look-Alike Leads Deputies To Swarm Volusia County Home (http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news)

Good job LE......now when the defense claims that LE was not looking for a "live" Caylee........VOILA!!!

[rosejustrose]

Nah I don't think she called because she thought her parents were in danger imo her parents told her to call or she did it because she thought SHE was in danger.moo

ITA. There's one point towards the end of the call when C&G are back in the house when Killer Casey snottily says "I already did". I assumed she meant called 911. Listen to it again and you'll hear it. What a witch, she can't even keep a civil tongue in her mouth when talking to her mom. JMO.

[msgatorslayer]

Somebody needs glasses.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

ITA with ya on that. But it nice to see that LE swarmed the place and that they ARE looking for Caylee in other places besides swamps and woods.

The Anthony's can't say nobody is looking for a live Caylee, thats for sure.

[Rayosunshine]

When do you think they'll release it? Prime time?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[steffaroob4]

She has a runny nose and looks to have been outside playing..I mean nothing wrong with that..I'd of just picked a more dressed up picture to put out is all.


I think they picked it because it shows her big blue eyes, too.

Wow, I just zoomed it, I see what you all mean now. I wonder if a reporter snapped that, I sure wouldn't give that out to people.

[rosejustrose]

Yep, that was me. I have some leftovers if someone wants them. I added mushrooms and green onions, kinda like Pasta Weesie from Carabba's. But I'm outta garlic bread.:)

Where is Caylee, Casey? Remember her? Your Daughter?

Love Carabba's. Hmmmmm!

Nope, I don't think she remembers anything about Caylee other than the fact that the damn smell Caylee left in her trunk got her in trouble. IMO, she probably hates that child and blames her for all this. That's why she's so disassociated from the whole tragedy. JMHO.

[WillowInFlight]

Nancy is from Georgia and her pronunciation of the name is truly southern.

The name Caylee has always bothered me. It is an invented name?

Just a combo of Casey and Lee, not uncommon to do.

[morson]

Thank you. I didn't realize his injuries were that bad. He broke a leg? Poor guy.. Get well soon, Det. Yuri!


Just wondering....could this be a ruse so that he and FBI can sneak off to Cali without the media?

[cassidy]

I don't see the resemblance but I guess that shoots holes in the Anthony's bogus allegations that LE isn't looking for a live Caylee:rolleyes: When will these people stop lying!!!????

Sure looks like they are following up on tips and sitings.

[Katprint]

As I was reading more of this article http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html I came to the section about "CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST"

From the article: "It appears Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, botched his legal request to force detectives to stop testing evidence in the case.

Baez filed a motion with the Clerk of Court a week ago, asking for a halt to the lab testing being done by investigators to give him a chance to weigh in on how and where it's done. Baez claimed investigators might be more concerned with cost and expediency than they are about accuracy and fairness.

The legal merits of his motion have yet to be decided, because Baez blundered by not notifying the judge assigned to the case about his motion. Nor has he asked the judge for a hearing. So his motion sits in the clerk's office on the second floor of the courthouse going nowhere."

That struck me as a pretty basic blunder, to file a motion but not schedule a hearing on it so that a judge will actually consider it and hopefully grant the relief being sought. So, I pulled up the Florida State Bar website and discovered that Jose Angel Baez was only admitted to the practice of law THREE YEARS AGO on 9/22/2005. The only section he is a member of is the Young Lawyers Division; apparently he did not bother to join the Criminal Law Division.

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

So many people on this board have been wondering why Mr. Baez has been doing the things he has been doing, and the answer may be that he just doesn't know any better.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[babblefishie]

I think I'd of dug out a better picture of my child.

That's what I said on the last thread TOO! lol.... could have wiped the nose goblins away before the photo op! :D

[True2Blues]

ITA with ya on that. But it nice to see that LE swarmed the place and that they ARE looking for Caylee in other places besides swamps and woods.

The Anthony's can't say nobody is looking for a live Caylee, thats for sure.


Nobody from that family is looking. People from other families and LE yes, they're looking.

[StickyBeak]

Oh god......I hope this isn't a "lets all feel sorry for the grandparents" show :rolleyes: I can't print what I think of Dr. Phil here.....:biggrin:


Time to sign petition, do not watch this show. They know where Caylee is, George is watching. No need to bring attention to her since she may be in harms way. JMO

[bungeebaby]

All Casey has to do is make a statement about location of her child and this whole thing would be over - but of course she won't do that cause she'll face the rest of her life in prison. Why don't her parents face up to this whole thing? Casey's holding out makes her look even more guilty, IMO. This so reminds me of the S. Peterson case. :shrug:

[beetlebrow]

When do you think they'll release it? Prime time?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom


Nobody said they were going to release anything. This has somehow gotten so blown out of proportion. A reporter talked to a spokeswoman from TES who said LE told her there were some "surprising" new developments in the case. She also said that TES come back "one way or another".


NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ANY TYPE OF ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!

[nutterbutter]

Caylee Look-Alike Leads Deputies To Swarm Volusia County Home (http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news)
Looks like tey are definitly following up on all tips so jb wont be able to say they didnt follow all leads.It all seems to lead back to mommy dearest Casey Anthony.hammer
mo

[Boxer]

ITA with ya on that. But it nice to see that LE swarmed the place and that they ARE looking for Caylee in other places besides swamps and woods.

The Anthony's can't say nobody is looking for a live Caylee, thats for sure.



way to get up off your arses LE and MEDIA!!


now, the next tip called in on Casey's blackjack is gonna be tougher....can you say Siberia?

[steffaroob4]

Bounty Hunter Questioned In Caylee Case (http://www.wesh.com/news/17507013/detail.html?rss=orl&psp=news)
Padilla Says Anthony Is Lying
WINTER PARK, Fla. -- The Orange County Sheriff's Office said that the commander of the missing person's unit and an FBI agent are in Sacramento, Calif., to meet Thursday night with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla as part of their ongoing investigation into the search for Caylee Anthony...

[msgatorslayer]

Sure looks like they are following up on tips and sitings.

Of course they are. And have been. It's nice to see a big raid though since Cindy doesn't think they're looking for a live Caylee.

I remember when Jessica Lunsford was missing, someone thought they seen her at a gas station and another person thought they seen her in a shopping plaza. We now know exactly where she was that whole time.:(

It's better to call even if you're wrong. You never know.

[bluwaters]

I think that this news release may be the reason for Baez's bad mood earlier today?

[msgatorslayer]

Bounty Hunter Questioned In Caylee Case (http://www.wesh.com/news/17507013/detail.html?rss=orl&psp=news)
Padilla Says Anthony Is Lying
WINTER PARK, Fla. -- The Orange County Sheriff's Office said that the commander of the missing person's unit and an FBI agent are in Sacramento, Calif., to meet Thursday night with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla as part of their ongoing investigation into the search for Caylee Anthony...

Thurs. night? Hmm, wonder if he'll be on NG tonight to tell what it's all about.

[True2Blues]

I like the part further down, where it says Baez was late to the sentencing of one of his clients in a Child Abuse Death case, because he was too busy picking Casey up from jail.

He kept everyone waiting, popped in over an hour late and didn't apologize.

What a guy. It's not like there's no one else who could have picked Casey up, but I guess a little grope in the car was too important to bother with a sentencing.

It would seem he should know how to file motions, he obviously represents others like Casey.

[msgatorslayer]

Notice on the taped interrogation #2 she threw "Zenaida always said how well behaves and that she was getting a good upbringing, she could tell".....:rolleyes:
I guess if your'e going to lie, give yourself pretend kudos.:shrug:

Haha, yea, the Zanny was proud of how Caylee was being raised. Okay, give yourself a pat on the back, Casey.

[SavannahStar]

Thanks. I really really would like to know why LE has not upturned the pool and dig.:shrug:

This has been discussed numerous times on here. There is virtually no way that Casey or anyone of her family could have drained that pool, took it all apart, buried a body, put the pool back up, filled it again, etc., etc., in anything less than several days, and A LOT of hard work.....PLUS the fact that it would be OBVIOUS in the yard around the pool (and their water bill) that it had been done.

NO WAY this happened. I have an identical pool to the Anthonys'. Simply no way. Others on here have agreed.

[crymeariver2006]

Thanks. I really really would like to know why LE has not upturned the pool and dig.:shrug:

Somebody asked that last week, pertaining to if they had a higher water bill the month after Caylee was last seen due to refilling the pool.

I don't recall that anybody had an answer, but it may have already been looked at and dismissed by LE.

[cloe23]

WOW great link. TY! I really do not see how this motion can go in his favor. IIRC do not each side have privy to their own location of testing of the evidence at their own expense? Could just be a spin to slow down the investigation?

[Shellberry]

dang I dont know why this is happening to me today, when I post, the thread closes, lol
loving the multi quote thing
anyhoo.

I dont know how long the police actually took- I thought in the beginning, they may have lived a little bit away from the anthony house.
err-the station that dealt with that neighborhood/house, was a bit away.
I posted about the situation near me, because they (LE) are literally soo close-and they have been to that house before- a lot of time it cools down before the cops get there...and they end up there for no reason.


lots of things make me wonder about this case


imo/jmo

[rosejustrose]

What's his billable hour rate, does it say? That might explain why the Anthonys chose him. He's cheap, who cares that he's inexperienced. What I'd like to know if how did he become this "high profile defense attorney" in three years and not be a member of Criminal Law Division. OMG, he lies, too. This is just too much.

[crymeariver2006]

What's his billable hour rate, does it say? That might explain why the Anthonys chose him. He's cheap, who cares that he's inexperienced. What I'd like to know if how did he become this "high profile defense attorney" in three years and not be a member of Criminal Law Division. OMG, he lies, too. This is just too much.


Of course he lies. He lied about the existence of an Immunity deal - THAT HE ASKED FOR.

[Roux]

29 Pines in the Mojave Desert, IIRC.

Twenty Nine Palms. My niece's husband who is a Marine just finished his tour there yesterday and is now returning to New River in NC.

[rosejustrose]

Nobody said they were going to release anything. This has somehow gotten so blown out of proportion. A reporter talked to a spokeswoman from TES who said LE told her there were some "surprising" new developments in the case. She also said that TES come back "one way or another".


NO ONE HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ANY TYPE OF ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!


Thank you, darlin'. ITA. You're my hero of the day!!

[day2day]

What were the 2 questions somebody on here was going to ask, if she got thru couple days ago?

I was gonna ask..
It has been reported on CNN that the anthony's have taken a polygraph..can you confirm if this is true?
AND...
I would like to know if the Anthony's can transfer funds from the helpfindcaylee fund to casey's defense fund, and if they could use these monies to help secure her release?

[rosejustrose]

Looks like tey are definitly following up on all tips so jb wont be able to say they didnt follow all leads.It all seems to lead back to mommy dearest Casey Anthony.hammer
mo

And I'm sure that will be part of the prosecution's case. "Listen, your honor, we followed every tip we had about a live Caylee, they just didn't pan out or weren't credible. Your honor, if it pleases the court, please direct that lying group of freaks known as the Anthonys to please disclose where they know and who has CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY". Yeah, right:rolleyes:

[StickyBeak]

So GA has lost faith in law

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/anthonys39_scuffle_with_protesters.html

What a surprise, wonder why they made a 911 call last night, but his own offspring did not report her own daughter missing for 31 days to LE.
No lack of faith there, Nah. Send Lawyers, guns and money I guess that may pacify oops, almost forgot JMO

[Shellberry]

there actually are a few posters here who want to discuss the topic and are tired of wading thru junk, I agree.

Those who want to plan a picnic or lunch go to food thread in Open Court.

Those who want to discuss Nancy, go to her website or where she works, which is not here, it's cnn.com/crime/

Those who want to discuss protesting, get your group together on PM's.

I've cleaned 2 full pages & didn't ban or deny access but if I come here again or get any reports about o/t, consider yourself gone.

thank you CW

we do have a thread for the protesters, but no one seems to go there.
is that ok? to have a thread I mean for certain different topics that are involved with this case?

(protesters, nancy, webcam, etc etc)

TIA!!

[Broderick]

I like the part further down, where it says Baez was late to the sentencing of one of his clients in a Child Abuse Death case, because he was too busy picking Casey up from jail.

He kept everyone waiting, popped in over an hour late and didn't apologize.

What a guy. It's not like there's no one else who could have picked Casey up, but I guess a little grope in the car was too important to bother with a sentencing.

It would seem he should know how to file motions, he obviously represents others like Casey.


It struck me as odd that the PR firm he was dealing with called him a "high profile lawyer" in a release. He seems to have struck gold.

[Joan Weiss]

Great. More people getting pulled into this fiasco. So much for Cindy saying that LE aren't looking for a "live" Caylee, it appears they are taking every tip seriously. Maybe that will shut her up.

By the way, that child looks nothing like Caylee.. IMO.Yeh, and now their privacy rights are violated, and I even read a criticism on here that someone doesn't like the child's picture. :rolleyes:

imo

[beetlebrow]

I was gonna ask..
It has been reported on CNN that the anthony's have taken a polygraph..can you confirm if this is true?
AND...
I would like to know if the Anthony's can transfer funds from the helpfindcaylee fund to casey's defense fund, and if they could use these monies to help secure her release?

Also....is the reason you havent fired your scientific forensics expert because he has a contract???? ;)

[rosejustrose]

Haha, yea, the Zanny was proud of how Caylee was being raised. Okay, give yourself a pat on the back, Casey.


But according to Casey Zanny was basically raising Caylee for almost 2 years:shrug: Psycho City - multiple personalities on sale 1/2 price.

[kakax]

Was it reported on CNN's website that the Anthony's had taken a polygraph or was it on during one of their news shows today?

[msgatorslayer]

:lol:ROTFLMAO The 911 op asks Casey "And who is this?" I bet that stung, lmao.

[rosejustrose]

This has been discussed numerous times on here. There is virtually no way that Casey or anyone of her family could have drained that pool, took it all apart, buried a body, put the pool back up, filled it again, etc., etc., in anything less than several days, and A LOT of hard work.....PLUS the fact that it would be OBVIOUS in the yard around the pool (and their water bill) that it had been done.

NO WAY this happened. I have an identical pool to the Anthonys'. Simply no way. Others on here have agreed.

ITA, SS, virtually impossible, IMO.

[Katprint]

I like the part further down, where it says Baez was late to the sentencing of one of his clients in a Child Abuse Death case, because he was too busy picking Casey up from jail.

He kept everyone waiting, popped in over an hour late and didn't apologize.

What a guy. It's not like there's no one else who could have picked Casey up, but I guess a little grope in the car was too important to bother with a sentencing.

It would seem he should know how to file motions, he obviously represents others like Casey.
I looked up his website, and it claims that he has "an extensive background in Criminal Law." It also claims that he "began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defenders Office in 1995" which would seem to conflict with the Florida State Bar's record of him not having been admitted to practice until 9/22/2005. But then, maybe he began working for the PD's office BEFORE he passed the bar exam and became an attorney. Did he clerk for the PD's office while he was in law school way back in 1995 then FAIL EVERY BAR EXAM twice a year for almost 10 years until finally passing it and getting admitted in 2005? Yikes!

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/Jose/AboutUs_Jose_English.html

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[baywench]

thank you CW

we do have a thread for the protesters, but no one seems to go there.
is that ok? to have a thread I mean for certain different topics that are involved with this case?

(protesters, nancy, webcam, etc etc)

TIA!!

When a topic comes to the point where we have discussed adnauseum and obviously have polarizing views and will not be able to change each other's minds I think a seperate thread is a really good idea. The protestors probably aren't going away and the Anthony's probably aren't going to behave so taking it over to thread seems like a good idea. jmo

[CinTN]

oh did you hear what he just said about the protester last night?

yay-go radio guy!!

LMAO yes I did,, That was Dirty Jim,, he is from the morning show sitting in for someone thats out for the week

[True2Blues]

So GA has lost faith in law

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/anthonys39_scuffle_with_protesters.html

What a surprise, wonder why they made a 911 call last night, but his own offspring did not report her own daughter missing for 31 days to LE.
No lack of faith there, Nah. Send Lawyers, guns and money I guess that may pacify oops, almost forgot JMO

He's a real piece of work. That whole family is a nightmare. If he'd kept his bat bearing wife inside and his mouth shut, LE would have been able to roll up on the people in front of the house and ticket them.

Instead, he and Cindy have a hankerin' for some camera time, arm themselves and go outside yelling and threatening, walking right into the faces of these people.

The fault is with the two of them, for not staying inside and letting the Police handle the situation. However, if that's how he feels, he ought to stop calling the police.

[Joan Weiss]

ITA. There's one point towards the end of the call when C&G are back in the house when Killer Casey snottily says "I already did". I assumed she meant called 911. Listen to it again and you'll hear it. What a witch, she can't even keep a civil tongue in her mouth when talking to her mom. JMO.Eww...Guess the pressure is ratcheting up. :D imo

[kakax]

omg-it is ringing!!!
HELP
what should I say

Ask about the lie detector the Anthony's supposedly took.

[cloe23]

Casey seems to be a distraction for him.


Suppose it is the notoriety?
:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

Twenty Nine Palms. My niece's husband who is a Marine just finished his tour there yesterday and is now returning to New River in NC.

Thanks, I knew that but I'm obsessing on my pines right now. One looks like it's ready to come down on my garage and that will not be a good thing. Surely worse than nickles tossed at it. IMO.

[Shellberry]

someone just asked me if I wanted to play and what my name was.
I said is this about the anthonys...and they are just talking about something totally different

omg!
omg-no, this is what they are talking about!
crap
you can hear me say, is this about the anthonys?
LOLOL


ugh.

[rosejustrose]

From now on, I'm callin him Junior.

Junior, I like it:D

[VC2]

Sure looks like they are following up on tips and sitings.

true but i think it also shows why the anthony's do and will keep clinging to the hope that caylee is alive. People call them with sightings, call LE with sightings. I totally disagree with the idea that either gp knows what happened, i think they are desperate to believe casey as far as is alive.

and from their point of view with the sightings etc. there is reason to hope. Not saying its realistic but when desperate to do so, its totally understood.

[beetlebrow]

ok JUST for you..lol

Awww....thanks....:)
but havent we all been thinkin it???

[BJames]

I haven't read all of these yet...but just a prediction?
Somewhere in that not too far future?...Maybe tonight..or tomorrow night? George is either going to be arrested and/or hurt seriously.
He seems hell bent right now on throwing himself out there to appear like he is 'protecting' his family, whether that is for his own feeling of failure, internal guilt...or showing Casey/Cindy that he protects them.
It's just a prediction...the weekend is coming..maybe just like Lee being summoned to sort out the women when Caylees disappearance was revealed...maybe he will be called in to be the 'man' in the family.
These folks are seriously losing it...George seems like he would welcome a 'reason' to pound someone....and/or maybe to be pounded.

Just my opinion of course...

[spiritwolf46]

Victims have no rights anymore, guys. We don't have no rights. I used to believe in the judicial system. I used to believe in the law. I don't believe in that any more," Anthony said.

ALL OF THAT for the protesters? I feel like im losin my mind. HOW bout Caylee Maries right you $$&*)%&% Y(&$(#

jmo


WOOOOOOO HOOOOOO! You GO girl!!!! :beer:

[101Spots]

As I was reading more of this article http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html I came to the section about "CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST"

From the article: "It appears Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, botched his legal request to force detectives to stop testing evidence in the case.

Baez filed a motion with the Clerk of Court a week ago, asking for a halt to the lab testing being done by investigators to give him a chance to weigh in on how and where it's done. Baez claimed investigators might be more concerned with cost and expediency than they are about accuracy and fairness.

The legal merits of his motion have yet to be decided, because Baez blundered by not notifying the judge assigned to the case about his motion. Nor has he asked the judge for a hearing. So his motion sits in the clerk's office on the second floor of the courthouse going nowhere."

That struck me as a pretty basic blunder, to file a motion but not schedule a hearing on it so that a judge will actually consider it and hopefully grant the relief being sought. So, I pulled up the Florida State Bar website and discovered that Jose Angel Baez was only admitted to the practice of law THREE YEARS AGO on 9/22/2005. The only section he is a member of is the Young Lawyers Division; apparently he did not bother to join the Criminal Law Division.

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

So many people on this board have been wondering why Mr. Baez has been doing the things he has been doing, and the answer may be that he just doesn't know any better.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

:lol::lol::lol: <15 rolling santas>

Ohhhhh, thanks, I needed that.

[tiny paw-prints]

When do you think they'll release it? Prime time?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I don't know, but we're sure getting fed a lot of "drip-drops" today.

Anybody keeping track of how many news-worthly link drops there's been in less than 24 hours? I finally perked up and noticed the swarm of drops somewhere between Melich's broken leg and the Caylee look-alike. Very strange.

[CinTN]

omg I just got a crazy message,
holy crap

LMAO hang in there... PM it to me...lol

Ya might not get on tonight,, but keep the links and number and call in tomorrow evening ,, the show starts at 3 pm est and is on till 7 pm est

I am sure they will have the topic again,, or something else ya might wanna talk about ,, I LOVE THESE GUYS ,,, Banana kills me .. she is such a ding bat ,,

SORRY O/T

[True2Blues]

It struck me as odd that the PR firm he was dealing with called him a "high profile lawyer" in a release. He seems to have struck gold.

It looks like he thinks he has.

[rosejustrose]

I was gonna ask..
It has been reported on CNN that the anthony's have taken a polygraph..can you confirm if this is true?
AND...
I would like to know if the Anthony's can transfer funds from the helpfindcaylee fund to casey's defense fund, and if they could use these monies to help secure her release?


I hadn't heard that. They really took a LDT? A legitimate one. I mean they just didn't check a bunch a boxes on a questionnaire and say Aha! I told you we knew who had Caylee and where she is? JMHO.

Don't even have an opinion on the legality of the funds. I'm not sure they legally set up the first trust fund correctly. JMO>

[Boxer]

I looked up his website, and it claims that he has "an extensive background in Criminal Law." It also claims that he "began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defenders Office in 1995" which would seem to conflict with the Florida State Bar's record of him not having been admitted to practice until 9/22/2005. But then, maybe he began working for the PD's office BEFORE he passed the bar exam and became an attorney. Did he clerk for the PD's office while he was in law school way back in 1995 then FAIL EVERY BAR EXAM twice a year for almost 10 years until finally passing it and getting admitted in 2005? Yikes!

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/Jose/AboutUs_Jose_English.html

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

seems an odd combination doesn't it? it does explain a lot of things to me. his composure in front of media is very uncomfortable and forced.

[Joan Weiss]

I like the part further down, where it says Baez was late to the sentencing of one of his clients in a Child Abuse Death case, because he was too busy picking Casey up from jail.

He kept everyone waiting, popped in over an hour late and didn't apologize.

What a guy. It's not like there's no one else who could have picked Casey up, but I guess a little grope in the car was too important to bother with a sentencing.

It would seem he should know how to file motions, he obviously represents others like Casey.Doesn't he have partners in his firm, to help him with stuff like that? :confused:

[luvinlife]

true but i think it also shows why the anthony's do and will keep clinging to the hope that caylee is alive. People call them with sightings, call LE with sightings. I totally disagree with the idea that either gp knows what happened, i think they are desperate to believe casey as far as is alive.

and from their point of view with the sightings etc. there is reason to hope. Not saying its realistic but when desperate to do so, its totally understood.


ITA with everything you've said.

[rosejustrose]

It struck me as odd that the PR firm he was dealing with called him a "high profile lawyer" in a release. He seems to have struck gold.

Or maybe trashed his career. He should have known he was over his head with this case. It's way too complicated for a novice. If he thinks his client will walk with a no body no crime defense, he's sadly mistaken, IMO.

[girlspell]

I heard also on CNN that the Anthony's took a polygraph/

Anyone hear anymore about that trip to California? Was that related to news that suprise news we've been hearing about?

[True2Blues]

Doesn't he have partners in his firm, to help him with stuff like that? :confused:

I don't know, but if he isn't up to handling cases like this, he shouldn't take them.

[Fallen Angel]

Nice post, I so much agree.

Here is a link to Tim helping to recover someone still alive, and pay particular attention that this TES article even says that Tim Miller continued to search for the child even though LE had a suspect.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/c...usearch/1.html

makes me have to wonder if Tim knows more then what he's saying about caylee because he's NOT looking for an alive caylee. :shrug:

[Boxer]

Or maybe trashed his career. He should have known he was over his head with this case. It's way too complicated for a novice. If he thinks his client will walk with a no body no crime defense, he's sadly mistaken, IMO.


explains being incompetent in making sure his motion made it out of a basket on the clerk's desk.

[rosejustrose]

I looked up his website, and it claims that he has "an extensive background in Criminal Law." It also claims that he "began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defenders Office in 1995" which would seem to conflict with the Florida State Bar's record of him not having been admitted to practice until 9/22/2005. But then, maybe he began working for the PD's office BEFORE he passed the bar exam and became an attorney. Did he clerk for the PD's office while he was in law school way back in 1995 then FAIL EVERY BAR EXAM twice a year for almost 10 years until finally passing it and getting admitted in 2005? Yikes!

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/Jose/AboutUs_Jose_English.html

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

He could have been clerking during law school. It is a requirement in most states. JMO.

[luvinlife]

Ask why it is that the Anthony's are so critical of the media when the media is still plastering up Caylee's image daily? She is getting more exposure than many missing children will ever receive.



I don't think the problem is the media and Caylee, I believe that it is the consentration on CASEY instead of Caylee.

I can understand it both ways, the media only has Casey to talk about, she is why this case is the attention it has gotten, it is hard for people to believe that a mother could do this. Caylee unfortunatly gets lost in it because there is nothing to go on, no credible information for anyone to concentrate on. So while Caylee's image is getting out there, for the Anthony's the problem is that because of Casey they are only looking at Casey's picture and story and believing Caylee is dead. Thus not looking for a live Caylee. I hope this makes sense, all JMO

[True2Blues]

I hadn't heard that. They really took a LDT? A legitimate one. I mean they just didn't check a bunch a boxes on a questionnaire and say Aha! I told you we knew who had Caylee and where she is? JMHO.

Don't even have an opinion on the legality of the funds. I'm not sure they legally set up the first trust fund correctly. JMO>

Me either. I'd heard they refused to take one. I wonder if it was LE conducting the test or a private examiner who asked questions like "Did you kill Caylee?", rather than, "Did you help cover up for Casey killing Caylee?"

[Boxer]

I don't know, but if he isn't up to handling cases like this, he shouldn't take them.


I thought he described his practice as a small law office in Kissimmee (sp) in one of his announcements. I don't remember the context, but it made me think he was a one guy firm....:shrug:

[steffaroob4]

I heard also on CNN that the Anthony's took a polygraph/

Anyone hear anymore about that trip to California? Was that related to news that suprise news we've been hearing about?

Did they say a LE test? Did they pass?

[kakax]

seems an odd combination doesn't it? it does explain a lot of things to me. his composure in front of media is very uncomfortable and forced.



There was a long interview with Baez where he was confronted about not being qualified. If I understood what he said correctly, he was working on cases and didn't need to take the Bar exam for what he was doing. Maybe he was interning I can't remember. I am going to go see if I can find it. The reporter was very direct, questioning his qualifications. BRB.

[barskin&co.]

Did they say a LE test? Did they pass?

On Nancy Grace, it was still reported that they refused Polys.

[rosejustrose]

Suppose it is the notoriety?
:shrug:


I think he's realizing the price of "infamy". He hasn't cut his chops yet. He needs to do the right thing and help the Anthonys find a more seasoned defense attorney, IMO.

[rosejustrose]

I haven't read all of these yet...but just a prediction?
Somewhere in that not too far future?...Maybe tonight..or tomorrow night? George is either going to be arrested and/or hurt seriously.
He seems hell bent right now on throwing himself out there to appear like he is 'protecting' his family, whether that is for his own feeling of failure, internal guilt...or showing Casey/Cindy that he protects them.
It's just a prediction...the weekend is coming..maybe just like Lee being summoned to sort out the women when Caylees disappearance was revealed...maybe he will be called in to be the 'man' in the family.
These folks are seriously losing it...George seems like he would welcome a 'reason' to pound someone....and/or maybe to be pounded.

Just my opinion of course...

He'll stroke out first, IMO. He's working himself up to it, IMO. Sad, really, his own flesh and blood, Casey, could stop this. JMO.

[SavannahStar]

Me either. I'd heard they refused to take one. I wonder if it was LE conducting the test or a private examiner who asked questions like "Did you kill Caylee?", rather than, "Did you help cover up for Casey killing Caylee?"

That story came from Padilla and IIRC, he said they were going to take one but then Lee came out and said "NO"!!!!!! Anyway I'm very, very wary of anything that Padilla claims. Some days I really like him then other days he appears to me as one of those "gimme my 15 minutes of fame" types....so he throws stuff out there that is salacious. Whether true or not, maybe someday we'll find out.

[barskin&co.]

I heard also on CNN that the Anthony's took a polygraph

Anyone hear anymore about that trip to California? Was that related to news that suprise news we've been hearing about?


I have heard just the opposite. Do you have a link?

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.

Caylee's Family Refused Offer to Take Lie Detector Test
Friday, September 12, 2008

The FBI and police offered the family of a missing Florida toddler the chance to take a lie detector test, but they refused, according to FOX affiliate WOFL-TV in Orlando.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421561,00.html

[Joan Weiss]

I looked up his website, and it claims that he has "an extensive background in Criminal Law." It also claims that he "began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defenders Office in 1995" which would seem to conflict with the Florida State Bar's record of him not having been admitted to practice until 9/22/2005. But then, maybe he began working for the PD's office BEFORE he passed the bar exam and became an attorney. Did he clerk for the PD's office while he was in law school way back in 1995 then FAIL EVERY BAR EXAM twice a year for almost 10 years until finally passing it and getting admitted in 2005? Yikes!

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/Jose/AboutUs_Jose_English.html

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

Katprint
Always only my own opinionsIIRC, John Kennedy Jr. worked in a law office before he passed his bar exam. I think they can do that. imo

[aubrey04]

If Dr. Phil is doing a show and George & Cindy are guests.. Or whatever show interviews Cindy next.. I want them to ask her about the CHLOROFORM. From what I understand, nobody has asked her about that yet. Although I might be wrong and if I am -- someone feel free to correct me.

but I want to know how Cindy and/or George can explain away the Chloroform being found in the trunk. :read:

It will be interesting to hear what they have to say. Since Cindy implied the decomposition in the trunk could have come from someone ELSES body.. did whomever used Casey's car to transport another persons body - use the chloroform to clean the trunk after... or what? What's the explanation?

JMO

[Katprint]

WOW great link. TY! I really do not see how this motion can go in his favor. IIRC do not each side have privy to their own location of testing of the evidence at their own expense? Could just be a spin to slow down the investigation?
To be fair, sometimes there is not enough of a forensic sample to go around, in which case a wise attorney takes action to prevent destructive testing which might obliterate helpful evidence.

I once filed a similar motion for a protective order when I was defending the Sacramento County Fire Protection District in a civil lawsuit filed by a plaintiff who had crashed into the side of a SCFPD ambulance while the plaintiff was high on meth and heroin. (California has weird "deep pockets" laws.) A blood sample had been taken and had been tested by police and by the criminal defense expert, and there was not enough remaining for two additional tests for my civil case. My motion listed the labs in the US that were accredited to do the drug tests but which had not been used for either of the prior tests in the criminal case, and basically asked the judge to appoint a drug test expert (at my client's expense) from one of those labs to do the destructive testing of the last little bit remaining of the blood sample, for the civil case.

IIRC the judge granted my motion and picked some lab in Utah to do the test, which was fine by me - I just wanted to be sure that I had the sample tested before the plaintiff's attorney got it and sent it for his own destructive testing, leaving me with nothing. I didn't want to rely on test results from the police or the criminal defense attorney because for complicated legal reasons (hearsay, work product, ethical rules governing expert witnesses etc.) those results would not be easily admissible in the civil case. Far from slowing down the process, my motion actually speeded up the testing because otherwise that sample would have been hanging around the refrigerated evidence locker until one side or the other got around to asking for an order permitting its release.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[rosejustrose]

Umm, Hello.... Nancy your twins are beautiful and I love your show. Then ask away. JMO.


Duh, I'm a moron. I thought you were calling NG until I looked at the time:punch: harder :punch: OK, now I'm back.

[Shellberry]

LMAO was that you that said NOTHING ?? LMAO

or did you say "I see old people"?...


Sorry I got ya'll the info late,, but hang on to it and try again tomorrow... :tongue:
omg- i said nothing-I didnt know what was going on, I thought it was a crazy ad to listen to before you get to talk. then I turned up the volume and realized the questions were being played a second after I heard them
and, my daughter got into her vaseline jar, I was saying- 'ohhh my god, ca ca, you're a mess' and stuff to her LOL
hope they didnt get that.
I tried calling back.
they said my name I said yes, are you talking to me? hello hello?
lol
if I said yea, when they asked that question, I would have been like I have no clue, Im calling about the anthonys.
I called from my cell phone, and man it stinks to hear on!

oh boy, nothing like making a fool of yourself on live radio LOL
Im shocked I got through, that was my thrill for the week LOLOL

[baywench]

Umm, Hello.... Nancy your twins are beautiful and I love your show. Then ask away. JMO.


oh please, please, please don't do that!!!!! I'll do anything....even get off the boards and work like I'm supposed to be doing. Please. jmo

[cassidy]

That isn't true.

He never limits himself to only searching for dead missing persons and has proven that by finding over 200 very LIVE missing persons.

IIRC he said he sent a team to Texas to check out a possible Caylee siting. Must have been nothing because there was no follow up.

[girlspell]

On Nancy Grace, it was still reported that they refused Polys.


I checked the CNN site....nothing about the polygraph. I thought I heard it earlier. I was just coming in, the TV was on and it was at the tail end of it. Anyway, I asked my son. He told me thought they took a polygraph. (I don't even think he knows who Casey is, sigh...) :confused::confused:

[rosejustrose]

Did they say a LE test? Did they pass?


I'm not sure if there is a pass or fail with these things. They determine deception on certain questions. I sincerely doubt any of he Anthonys took an LDT. JMO>

[Fallen Angel]

That isn't true.

He never limits himself to only searching for dead missing persons and has proven that by finding over 200 very LIVE missing persons.

hey hey hey calm down.......i'm saying with Caylee he's now looking for a dead Caylee ( well not right now, you know what i mean) he even said that he does NOT think she's alive. :no:

[barskin&co.]

just a few comments from Padilla:

"Padilla said he predicts major charges against Anthony are likely on the way.

“She's lying. It's not a secret she lies all the time but this specifically is two separate stories, two different times about the same supposed incident. It's probably neither one is the truth,” he said. “It's gone on long enough. She doesn't want to cooperate. Her attorney doesn't want to cooperate, therefore it's time to go for the big one. You don't need a body for murder charges, they've got enough circumstantial, forensic evidence, they can convict her easily.”
http://www.wesh.com/news/17507013/detail.html

Well, Lenny, from your lips to the Grand Jury's ears!

[CinTN]

they are in pm?

yes 3pm -7 pm est ..

this station does 3 shows ..

7am - 11 am est ,, The Monsters in the Morning << ROFLMAO funny

11 am-3 pm est ,, Shannon Burk Show <<< SBK is a riot

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you can listen online and call in on the 888 number toll free nation wide.

and you can check out their website at wtks.com

PM me if you want the station info for the other night time talk show I listen to from west palm fl ,, same real radio but different station...

I dont wanna get into trouble for being off topic,, I just wanted to get ya'll involved to voice your opinion LIVE in Orlando and nation wide...

[marshmallow]

Nice post, I so much agree.

Here is a link to Tim helping to recover someone still alive, and pay particular attention that this TES article even says that Tim Miller continued to search for the child even though LE had a suspect.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/c...usearch/1.html



I'm interested in your ideas on this, what do you think happened to Caylee?

[luvinlife]

ITA with you. It is just that Caylee's picture is being shown every night...and even if it is not in the context that they Anthony's want...but her photo is up there. Many parents of the missing could only dream of this exposure. They just want the story to be only about Caylee...and unfortunately...no media network can spend 5 hours a week only talking about Caylee...it just won't happen. There is no live Caylee to look for and that should make everyone stop and think...not why or how or when or where it happened...but just for a brief moment realize that a life was extinguished...a life with every possible experience that seemed limitless...and that life is over. Just pause...and think of Caylee...what dreams she may have...dreams that will be just that...dreams. :rose:




ITA with you. I wish that all missing children would get the publicity they deserve. I just hope this will make people more aware of all children and pay attention to those things that seem a little weird, pay attention to the little things, because we never know when that info could be very valuable to some family out there.

[ann10]

I looked up his website, and it claims that he has "an extensive background in Criminal Law." It also claims that he "began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defenders Office in 1995" which would seem to conflict with the Florida State Bar's record of him not having been admitted to practice until 9/22/2005. But then, maybe he began working for the PD's office BEFORE he passed the bar exam and became an attorney. Did he clerk for the PD's office while he was in law school way back in 1995 then FAIL EVERY BAR EXAM twice a year for almost 10 years until finally passing it and getting admitted in 2005? Yikes!

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/Jose/AboutUs_Jose_English.html

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

Katprint
Always only my own opinions



Baez and Casey have much in common. No surprise there.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/dirtbag-attorney-jose-baez-and-his-background/

I don't know anyone who waits 8 years after graduating to take the bar. Do you?

[cloe23]

So what is up with all the posts I have read about digging up the pool.
Who's pool? The Anthony's, if so did they recently put it in?
Or are posters talking about an above ground pool that just got put in somewhere? I would hope that LE would of already been on top of this if it was a possible lead in finding Caylee.
Anyone?:shrug:

[SavannahStar]

I have heard just the opposite. Do you have a link?

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.

Caylee's Family Refused Offer to Take Lie Detector Test
Friday, September 12, 2008

The FBI and police offered the family of a missing Florida toddler the chance to take a lie detector test, but they refused, according to FOX affiliate WOFL-TV in Orlando.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,421561,00.html

That story came from PADILLA, like I said in the post above yours. It was Padilla that gave the story to the FOX affiliate.

[rosejustrose]

I wonder if Baez answers his own phones. "This is the law office of Mr. Baez. So far I am 0-4 in high profile cases."

You silly girl. He doesn't have to answer his own phones anymore, Casey does that for him.;)

[Joan Weiss]

I think that there is actually a protesters thread in this forum...Just a thought. But as to getting their groups together, ITA, use PM's.

As far as the courts, there should be some kind of injunction against the protesters...as far as being able to stand outside law abiding, property tax paying neighbors' houses that have nothing to do with this. This powder keg will only wind up getting people hurt or arrested. It is not doing anything to Casey. Casey feels nothing.Oh, I think she's getting a little riled, as someone posted about the background talk on the 911 call. Imagine having your parents fight your battles and responding in that manner? Interrupted her evening, did they? imo

[Boxer]

To be fair, sometimes there is not enough of a forensic sample to go around, in which case a wise attorney takes action to prevent destructive testing which might obliterate helpful evidence.

I once filed a similar motion for a protective order when I was defending the Sacramento County Fire Protection District in a civil lawsuit filed by a plaintiff who had crashed into the side of a SCFPD ambulance while the plaintiff was high on meth and heroin. (California has weird "deep pockets" laws.) A blood sample had been taken and had been tested by police and by the criminal defense expert, and there was not enough remaining for two additional tests for my civil case. My motion listed the labs in the US that were accredited to do the drug tests but which had not been used for either of the prior tests in the criminal case, and basically asked the judge to appoint a drug test expert (at my client's expense) from one of those labs to do the destructive testing of the last little bit remaining of the blood sample, for the civil case.

IIRC the judge granted my motion and picked some lab in Utah to do the test, which was fine by me - I just wanted to be sure that I had the sample tested before the plaintiff's attorney got it and sent it for his own destructive testing, leaving me with nothing. I didn't want to rely on test results from the police or the criminal defense attorney because for complicated legal reasons (hearsay, work product, ethical rules governing expert witnesses etc.) those results would not be easily admissible in the civil case. Far from slowing down the process, my motion actually speeded up the testing because otherwise that sample would have been hanging around the refrigerated evidence locker until one side or the other got around to asking for an order permitting its release.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions


The state of Oklahoma in fact did have a problem with the OSBI lab (I believe...my memory may be wrong though) involving one particular person in the lab. She had botched several tests that were used in very serious crimes.

If I were an attorney I would ask for the same motion in this case, but I'd go one better than Junior Baez and make sure it got filed properly....

[Katprint]

He could have been clerking during law school. It is a requirement in most states. JMO.
I think he was probably clerking during law school back in 1995. No state requires TEN YEARS of clerking, though.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[joint-heir]

I like the name Junior!! I just think he will come up with some "associates" with better qualifications when the trial comes around.
Wasn't Yuri supposed to fly out to CA today? Did the broken leg hinder that?
Been on pins and needles this afternoon thinking what the surprise would be in the investigation (hint from Tim's rep.) I for one sure want something to break soon!

[day2day]

Well, Lenny, from your lips to the Grand Jury's ears!

I'm wonderin if ole Lenny might be 50,000 poorer tonight. Maybe that is the reason LE flew to CA?!

just a guess!

[MyrDawn]

I looked up his website, and it claims that he has "an extensive background in Criminal Law." It also claims that he "began working for the Miami-Dade County Public Defenders Office in 1995" which would seem to conflict with the Florida State Bar's record of him not having been admitted to practice until 9/22/2005. But then, maybe he began working for the PD's office BEFORE he passed the bar exam and became an attorney. Did he clerk for the PD's office while he was in law school way back in 1995 then FAIL EVERY BAR EXAM twice a year for almost 10 years until finally passing it and getting admitted in 2005? Yikes!

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/Jose/AboutUs_Jose_English.html

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Maybe Baez did what my cousin did. She worked as a paralegal for a while, then decided to get a law degree and went back to college for that, while still working as a paralegal. She passed the bar on her first try. But, if you looked at her record, it would be very similar to Baez's.

[CinTN]

Duh, I'm a moron. I thought you were calling NG until I looked at the time:punch: harder :punch: OK, now I'm back.

NO Im telling ya they would have LOVED THAT... :lol:
you MUST have a sense of humor to call into these shows...

[Shellberry]

That is a good idea IF THEY STAY ON THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD.

Obviously it didn't work on the Protesters thread BUT there will be no thread about food!!! Thought posters grew out of that on the old old forums.

I agree, Im used to other message boards I belong to where you see a topic and you post to it.
the one thread for the day was new to me when I came here, I did find it confusing.
I think if people got into the habit of posting to topics, rather than the daily thread, it would be easier.
(on you and us!)

[rosejustrose]

That isn't true.

He never limits himself to only searching for dead missing persons and has proven that by finding over 200 very LIVE missing persons.

You really need to go back to the links thread and read what Tim has to say about that. IMO. In this particular case, I think you'll find that you're mistaken. JMO.

[martha]

I think casey lawyer is only wanting to take care of her case. He is really taking good care of casey. why I really don;t know. If i was his wife I would not want him spending so much time with her. He is the first lawyer that I have ever heard of spending so much time with his client. jmho God bless caylee. I so want to know what has happened to caylee. I still think the anthonys know what has happened to caylee but now they or just trying to save casey. They will do anything to keep her out of jail. I would not give one penny to the anthonys because none of them know how to tell the truth.jmho:rose:A rose for caylee

[deep*fear]

Ask about the lie detector the Anthony's supposedly took.

We would have heard about it if they passed one, imo. I'm surprised they didn't lie about passing one or have Casey make a fake 'I passed a LDT' document to release to the press.

[rosejustrose]

oh please, please, please don't do that!!!!! I'll do anything....even get off the boards and work like I'm supposed to be doing. Please. jmo

You're too cute:)

[Boxer]

The state of Oklahoma in fact did have a problem with the OSBI lab (I believe...my memory may be wrong though) involving one particular person in the lab. She had botched several tests that were used in very serious crimes.

If I were an attorney I would ask for the same motion in this case, but I'd go one better than Junior Baez and make sure it got filed properly....

quoting self to include article from Time Magazine. our state is still feeling the burn....imo

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,109568,00.html

[Katprint]

Doesn't he have partners in his firm, to help him with stuff like that? :confused:
Mr. Baez' partner, Gabriel E. Adam, was not admitted 9/22/2006 i.e. a year later than Mr. Baez. So perhaps the attorney with TWO YEARS experience is not a particularly great mentor to the attorney with THREE YEARS experience.

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/DB2972A4C9FF009585257206006241C9?OpenDocument
http://www.baezlawfirm.com/gabriel/AboutUs_Gabriel_English.html

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Joan Weiss]

ITA with you. It is just that Caylee's picture is being shown every night...and even if it is not in the context that they Anthony's want...but her photo is up there. Many parents of the missing could only dream of this exposure. They just want the story to be only about Caylee...and unfortunately...no media network can spend 5 hours a week only talking about Caylee...it just won't happen. There is no live Caylee to look for and that should make everyone stop and think...not why or how or when or where it happened...but just for a brief moment realize that a life was extinguished...a life with every possible experience that seemed limitless...and that life is over. Just pause...and think of Caylee...what dreams she may have...dreams that will be just that...dreams. :rose:Odd that Tony's roommate was the only one that gave some glowing reports about Caylee, how smart she was, etc. That's the only personal report I've heard about that dear child. imo

[shelbar53]

if this goes to trial as a murder case. what defense does baez have? If casey tells baez the truth {assuming she murdered her daughter} then legally baez cant use "the kidnapping" as a defense. since he cant argue a lie. so he has to defend her that there is NO body...no murder. I think that is why the A's are so adamant about her being alive and not to search for a body...they are looking ahead for a plausible defense.

[aubrey04]

How are they supposed to explain something they have nothing to do with?

Well, Cindy explained the body of someone ELSE being in the trunk. I would just like someone to ask her if she has any way to explain it. I am not saying she does have an explanation - just that the question should be asked of her.

They seem to be the ones cleaning up Casey's messes and explaining away things with impossible scenarios. It would be interesting to hear her response to the question.

jmo

[Takotna]

So what is up with all the posts I have read about digging up the pool.
Who's pool? The Anthony's, if so did they recently put it in?
Or are posters talking about an above ground pool that just got put in somewhere? I would hope that LE would of already been on top of this if it was a possible lead in finding Caylee.
Anyone?:shrug:

The Anthony's have an above ground pool. (You can see it on the GVS interview) It's been discusses here off and on....I think the poster who suggested the water bill be checked was clever. They wouldn't have to dig if the water usage didn't spike.

AllMO:)

[Fallen Angel]

That isn't true.

He never limits himself to only searching for dead missing persons and has proven that by finding over 200 very LIVE missing persons.

uh huh ok.......by the way he hasn't found that many. i think he told NG it's been something like 93. i'll have to look it up. Either way i just adore Tim Miller

[desmom]

here is link to candle site for anyone wanting to light the way for lil Caylee.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

TY, Nutter.

Come on folks, lets get some of these lit for Caylee. I'd like to propose that everyone take a second to light one whenever a new thread is made. Thats x3 for the 300-400 of us that are usually here.

Thank you!

[barskin&co.]

Well the GP's did in that ABC interview...but I know what you mean...interesting point.
Especially by Casey in her two interviews with LE...even if she was not showing emotion (we all react differently to different stuff)..she should have been, "Caylee likes pink, loves blah, eats...is smaller/bigger than average...has these expressions...does these things with her hands ect..." And nada from Satan's toadie...

The RADIO LINK IS TALKING ABOUT CASEY COMING UP IN A FEW...

What radio link?

[Fallen Angel]

He searches for both, dead and alive, and never omits one possibility over the other in every case that the goes out on.

yeah yeah you told me.

[Joan Weiss]

To be fair, sometimes there is not enough of a forensic sample to go around, in which case a wise attorney takes action to prevent destructive testing which might obliterate helpful evidence.

I once filed a similar motion for a protective order when I was defending the Sacramento County Fire Protection District in a civil lawsuit filed by a plaintiff who had crashed into the side of a SCFPD ambulance while the plaintiff was high on meth and heroin. (California has weird "deep pockets" laws.) A blood sample had been taken and had been tested by police and by the criminal defense expert, and there was not enough remaining for two additional tests for my civil case. My motion listed the labs in the US that were accredited to do the drug tests but which had not been used for either of the prior tests in the criminal case, and basically asked the judge to appoint a drug test expert (at my client's expense) from one of those labs to do the destructive testing of the last little bit remaining of the blood sample, for the civil case.

IIRC the judge granted my motion and picked some lab in Utah to do the test, which was fine by me - I just wanted to be sure that I had the sample tested before the plaintiff's attorney got it and sent it for his own destructive testing, leaving me with nothing. I didn't want to rely on test results from the police or the criminal defense attorney because for complicated legal reasons (hearsay, work product, ethical rules governing expert witnesses etc.) those results would not be easily admissible in the civil case. Far from slowing down the process, my motion actually speeded up the testing because otherwise that sample would have been hanging around the refrigerated evidence locker until one side or the other got around to asking for an order permitting its release.

Katprint
Always only my own opinionsThank you. A TH explained that the defense was allowed to have his own expert present at the testing, to observe; wouldn't that suffice, if there wasn't enough material for both to test? imo

[Pag Boi]

He could have been clerking during law school. It is a requirement in most states. JMO.



Baez says on his website his won-loss record while in the public defenders office & then went to work for Lexis Nexis training judges, lawyers, and law students on using the internet to investigate their cases. :confused:

Maybe he googled a cliff notes motion to halt testing. He certainly has the skillz according to his own pr I mean website. JMOO

[SavannahStar]

Talking about the protesters on the radio link...one of the announcers said use chained up pitbulls to keep people off of the lawn...

:flamemad: :flamemad: :flamemad:

[day2day]

He searches for both, dead and alive, and never omits one possibility over the other in every case that the goes out on.

Cindy must have missed this article, while she was telling the american public she didn't want ANYONE to help Tim.

jmo

[kakax]

I have been looking and looking for that interview with Baez where he was defending his credentials and I can't find it.

He did pass the bar the first time. The reporter basically asked him if he was over his head. It was a great interview...if I run across it I will pass it along.

[day2day]

[QUOTE=SavannahStar;12143693]:flamemad: :flamemad: QUOTE]

Poor pitbulls!! ...They get all the bad news :(....
(hides my pup)...

[marshmallow]

I totally agree with you.

I also agree but feel it should also remove the supporters, vigil attendees, and all press. Let the other people in the neighborhood try to have normal lives.

[cloe23]

Baez and Casey have much in common. No surprise there.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/dirtbag-attorney-jose-baez-and-his-background/

I don't know anyone who waits 8 years after graduating to take the bar. Do you?


I agree with Katprint. I took him 8 years to pass the bar. :chicken:
And it isn't free to keep taking the bar. So one best have their ducks in a row before taking it, JMO

[Fallen Angel]

He searches for both, dead and alive, and never omits one possibility over the other in every case that the goes out on.

by the way you were right........out of 900 searches they have found 300

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZeyVPNINxs

[kakax]

I agree with Katprint. I took him 8 years to pass the bar. :chicken:
And it isn't free to keep taking the bar. So one best have their ducks in a row before taking it, JMO



Uuuuuuugh I wish I could find that interview he did where he was asked all of this. No one else remembers it?

[marshmallow]

if there is a live Caylee, why won't Casey talk so maybe she might be found/saved from kidnappers?

what could be more important than finding Caylee?

[k_can004]

Talking about the protesters on the radio link...one of the announcers said use chained up pitbulls to keep people off of the lawn...



Why is it always that the poor pitbulls always get dragged into things.... I am far more scared of the Anthony clan :chicken:

[Pag Boi]

Baez and Casey have much in common. No surprise there.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/dirtbag-attorney-jose-baez-and-his-background/

I don't know anyone who waits 8 years after graduating to take the bar. Do you?



:eek:

Thanks. I had not seen that article. Guess we can all rest a little easier knowing Casey is in such good hands.

[Joan Weiss]

I'm wonderin if ole Lenny might be 50,000 poorer tonight. Maybe that is the reason LE flew to CA?!

just a guess!I don't understand why they have to do that now. He was here for the longest, why didn't they question him then? :confused:

[Fallen Angel]

Finish her sentence that she spoke........'searching for a dead Caylee'.......

I'm not sure why so many are having such a hard time understanding the simple fact that the Anthonys believe that Caylee is alive.

why dont they want TES looking for both alive and dead Caylee?

[aubrey04]

They can't answer a Q directly just like Casey- if you ask about the chloroform, bet they say:
Thats Ridiculous!
"Those tests are wrong"
"LE is lying about the chloroform"
"You can't trust the labs"

jmo/AB

True. It will be one of the above or blaming it on whoever stole Casey's car and put ANOTHER dead body, not Caylee's, in her trunk.. but I still want someone to ask the question.

[day2day]

Finish her sentence that she spoke........'searching for a dead Caylee'.......

I'm not sure why so many are having such a hard time understanding the simple fact that the Anthonys believe that Caylee is alive.

That is just one sentence that they have said about Mr. Miller. Dead or alive at least SOMEONE was searching for Caylee. And NO i don't understand it.
You help me understand why they are collecting funds for a search and noone bothers searching?

[Rayosunshine]

The Anthony's have an above ground pool. (You can see it on the GVS interview) It's been discusses here off and on....I think the poster who suggested the water bill be checked was clever. They wouldn't have to dig if the water usage didn't spike.

AllMO:)

I could be wrong, but if they emptied the pool, the water is usually directed toward the street. Would think the neighbors would have noticed.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[cassidy]

Finish her sentence that she spoke........'searching for a dead Caylee'.......

I'm not sure why so many are having such a hard time understanding the simple fact that the Anthonys believe that Caylee is alive.


Not sure that they believe it as much as they are trying to convince themselves. and judging from their actions that doesn't seem to be working very well...JMO

[k_can004]

if there is a live Caylee, why won't Casey talk so maybe she might be found/saved from kidnappers?

what could be more important than finding Caylee?

In Casey's case EVERYTHING!!! MOO

[cloe23]

The Anthony's have an above ground pool. (You can see it on the GVS interview) It's been discusses here off and on....I think the poster who suggested the water bill be checked was clever. They wouldn't have to dig if the water usage didn't spike.

AllMO:)

TY for the clarification:)

[ann10]

Uuuuuuugh I wish I could find that interview he did where he was asked all of this. No one else remembers it?


Is this it?

http://www.wftv.com/news/17114393/detail.html

[Fallen Angel]

Well as you stated about 5 times so far..Tim searches for dead and ALIVE...yet Cindy didnt want his help...hmmmm

exactly. as soon as they got back the forensics from the body farm she didnt want ANY HELP.......i find that ODD.

[spageddy]

Thats an insult to pitbulls. What they need is a fire-breathing dragon!!!!

They have one

[Boxer]

:flamemad: :flamemad: :flamemad:

well, there is something you and I can agree on. Totally ignorant remark about the chained dogs. But I won't take your fire breathers...as I know you have a Pit. There is enough abuse and nastiness in this case without that kind of thing.

I like all dogs. It's some dog owners I don't care for...

[cassidy]

I don't understand why they have to do that now. He was here for the longest, why didn't they question him then? :confused:

this is a guess and ONLY a guess. But i'd bet he had the house bugged and knows a whole heck of alot that no one else knows.

JMO

[Takotna]

And put Casey back in jail- "for her own protection" if necessary. As long as she is in that house, there are going to be haters and protesters, jmo.

Whatever happened to all the death threats Cindy talked about? Remember the safehouse bit? That, and the hundreds of tips.....:shrug:

I was just wondering, is Cindy wielding a bat now instead of a hammer?

AllMO:)

[CinTN]

I have not listened to this night show on this station ,, most the time I turn it to another,,, but I will listen tonight..

So whos callin and gonna give some OPINION !!??

1-407-916-1041 or 1-888-978-1041 NATION WIDE :beer:

ONLY STIPULATION IS THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE THIS WEBSITE A PLUG !!

[kakax]

I remember it... Wasn't he outside and it was a pc from him.

It was in his office. He was very defensive. The reporter said that he heard that Casey hired him because of a reference from jail and JB said well inmates know him best or something like that.

[Fallen Angel]

They do believe it, and they're many doing things in that direction to find Caylee alive.

omg now you know what people THINK?

and what exactly are GA and CA doing to find Caylee? :shrug:

they sure aren't going door to door like they said they would :flamemad:

[margaret kep]

Odd that Tony's roommate was the only one that gave some glowing reports about Caylee, how smart she was, etc. That's the only personal report I've heard about that dear child. imo

Tony's roommate said Caylee loved saying "Whats Up Dude?" :rose:

[SavannahStar]

I could be wrong, but if they emptied the pool, the water is usually directed toward the street. Would think the neighbors would have noticed.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom


And it's much more than that. I posted about it upthread. There is NO WAY anything is buried under that pool. I guarantee it.

BTW, Isabelle, I saw a post of yours the other night I wanted to respond to but the thread was closed. Not of big importance, but you said muriatic acid was used to shock the pool. Actually chlorine is used to shock the pool; muriatic acid is used to decrease the alkalinity. We just had to use some today in our pool.

[kakax]

wait....Now I'm thinking it was in his office. They asked him about stuff he had on his website that wasn't true. He said the bs about he did try cases with other lawyers and that still counts. <blondeheadtilt>


Yes that was it LOL!!

[dixie77]

Finish her sentence that she spoke........'searching for a dead Caylee'.......

I'm not sure why so many are having such a hard time understanding the simple fact that the Anthonys believe that Caylee is alive.

==========

I'm not sure why the A's r having such a hard time accepting reality. JMO

[SavannahStar]

Would you want to be put in jail for your own protection?

:eek: Good point, there, Scoob! :lol:

[Rayosunshine]

Thats an insult to pitbulls. What they need is a fire-breathing dragon!!!!

Komodo dragon would nip it in the bud. (tried to link a pic, but computer illiterate here).

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[SavannahStar]

well, there is something you and I can agree on. Totally ignorant remark about the chained dogs. But I won't take your fire breathers...as I know you have a Pit. There is enough abuse and nastiness in this case without that kind of thing.

I like all dogs. It's some dog owners I don't care for...


I totally agree with that! :rose:

[tiny paw-prints]

Mr. Baez' partner, Gabriel E. Adam, was not admitted 9/22/2006 i.e. a year later than Mr. Baez. So perhaps the attorney with TWO YEARS experience is not a particularly great mentor to the attorney with THREE YEARS experience.

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/DB2972A4C9FF009585257206006241C9?OpenDocument
http://www.baezlawfirm.com/gabriel/AboutUs_Gabriel_English.html



Baez: 4 listed; Casey went to school with his daughters:

CHS Alumni
http://www.colonialhigh.ocps.net/alumni/2004.htm

[Fallen Angel]

LE can't even decide if Caylee is dead, much less who killed her.

guess what...........the LE don't have to tell you EVERY card in their hand lol.......i know that must be eatting you up lol

[dixie77]

Question Did CW say that we couldnt post about the protesters? thanks

[cloe23]

I could be wrong, but if they emptied the pool, the water is usually directed toward the street. Would think the neighbors would have noticed.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

One could also use a long enough hose and place it down the streets gutter? If done at night very well could of gone without notice?
Just a thought. But a peak in water usage would for sure be suspicious, IMO. My water company has usage of water down to the day.
But I can't forget the decomp in Casey's car trunk. With very little DNA to me say's that Caylee would of been wrapped up in something. JMO

[luvinlife]

I don't understand why they have to do that now. He was here for the longest, why didn't they question him then? :confused:


Well I am not sure LE knew about the new story until they heard it on TV, but your right they were there the first time they said it on tv. He says all these things on TV and they are all theory's. Maybe they want to get him to stop talking.lol

Maybe he knows more than he has spilled so far?

[Velouria]

Komodo dragon would nip it in the bud. (tried to link a pic, but computer illiterate here).

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Good idea! I think I'll send one to Casey with a gift card tied around its neck. :)

[Fallen Angel]

Talk to who, the public?

She doesn't owe the public answers in an ongoing criminal case, and Baez nor Private Investigators are about the broadcast to the public at large what's going on behind the scenes.

i dont want to hear her voice. i want her to talk to the LE and she's NOT doing it............period. you know that. even her lawyer said that.

[day2day]

Baez: 4 listed; Casey went to school with his daughters:

CHS Alumni
http://www.colonialhigh.ocps.net/alumni/2004.htm

Oh great. Time for a slumber party! jmo

[Katprint]

Thank you. A TH explained that the defense was allowed to have his own expert present at the testing, to observe; wouldn't that suffice, if there wasn't enough material for both to test? imo
If you honestly believe that the evidence is going to help your case, then having your expert watch while the other side's expert destroys the potentially helpful evidence - particularly if there is any disagreement concerning proper testing protocols, as there sometimes is particularly with new, cutting-edge technologies - is NOT sufficient. Certainly it would be worth fighting for a neutral expert to test the evidence rather than the other side's professional liar so-called "expert" who might destroy the evidence and then lie about the test results.

If you don't believe the evidence is going to help your case, then you don't bother to test it or to suggest testing it. For example, while defending a civil lawsuit filed by the child of a deceased father who was run over by a garbage truck backing up over him while he was passed out drunk in an alley, we did not request DNA testing because we had no reason to believe he was NOT the father (among other things, he had been listed on the child's birth certificate as the father and the child had always been told that he was his father) and we did not want to conclusively establish the plaintiff's case at our expense. However, we did chase down documentation proving that the marriage license provided by the child's mother was a forgery and she was in fact NOT his wife and therefore not entitled to the loss of consortium money that she was seeking. Which evidence you secure and which evidence you ignore depends on where you think the case is going and your strategies for making it go where you want it to.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Fallen Angel]

Why didnt she help the poilice find her kidnapped daughter?

because she wasn't KIDNAPPED :shrug:

[rosejustrose]

Finish her sentence that she spoke........'searching for a dead Caylee'.......

I'm not sure why so many are having such a hard time understanding the simple fact that the Anthonys believe that Caylee is alive.

What is your position? You post as though you know the Anthony's position and thoughts but you never post your own. IMO.

[CinTN]

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[Rayosunshine]

Does NG have any "Bombshells" tonight? Should I stay and watch, or should I go to the pet store?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

p.s. know this is OT, but if anyone used a splint on a dog's paw, please pm me. need info. thanks have a very old dog, trouble walking.

[baywench]

this is a guess and ONLY a guess. But i'd bet he had the house bugged and knows a whole heck of alot that no one else knows.

JMO

Yes me too. I think his girl might have been bugged. He said he didn't have any on NG but he knows some little nuggets that no one else does. LE probably interested in that. jmo

[StickyBeak]

He's a real piece of work. That whole family is a nightmare. If he'd kept his bat bearing wife inside and his mouth shut, LE would have been able to roll up on the people in front of the house and ticket them.

Instead, he and Cindy have a hankerin' for some camera time, arm themselves and go outside yelling and threatening, walking right into the faces of these people.

The fault is with the two of them, for not staying inside and letting the Police handle the situation. However, if that's how he feels, he ought to stop calling the police.

ITA, I am in no support of Casey Anthony at this time, just makes no sense to me, but what she has accomplished by her refusal to give up the truth has so put her family in jeopardy. She stated she could not tell because Caylee might be harmed, she knows what LE is capable of so she investigated herself for 31 days. The anthony household has turned into a remote battlefront, can these people ever have a life devoid of scruitiny? Where else could they go. They have certainly contributed to the problem by their lack of reaction according to our prospective. But the confrontations are only encouraged by them confronting their enemy in the name of their daughter. They say Caylee is Alive, why can't they stand in front of the world and Say. OK People, we are not it morning for Caylee. Please back off and let LE handle this instead of compounding the situation with their total disregard of OCSO and the general public who are not looking for Caylee, while they seek only money. Give me a GPS point, I'll gladly call the FBI, LE with my info. Infuriating. JMO

[Boxer]

Why didnt she help the poilice find her kidnapped daughter?


I'd settle for why did she lie? And now we know she's not afraid of the police. Why lie? IMO, even if someone did steal Caylee, which I do not believe, if she's dead now, Casey killed her with her lies.

[Takotna]

I could be wrong, but if they emptied the pool, the water is usually directed toward the street. Would think the neighbors would have noticed.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

IMO if the Anthony's wanted to empty the pool furtively, they would send the water behind their back fence. IIRC it's raw land. Probably no one would notice if they did it this way.

BTW - I don't think there's anything under the pool. Casey is way too lazy to have done a big job like this. G would not want the body anywhere near the house. Those are my 2c.

AllMO:)

[Fallen Angel]

What is your position? You post as though you know the Anthony's position and thoughts but you never post your own. IMO.

DG said the other day she think caylee's alive.

[day2day]

If you honestly believe that the evidence is going to help your case, then having your expert watch while the other side's expert destroys the potentially helpful evidence - particularly if there is any disagreement concerning proper testing protocols, as there sometimes is particularly with new, cutting-edge technologies - is NOT sufficient. Certainly it would be worth fighting for a neutral expert to test the evidence rather than the other side's professional liar so-called "expert" side who might destroy the evidence and then lie about the test results.

If you don't believe the evidence is going to help your case, then you don't bother to test it or to suggest testing it. For example, while defending a civil lawsuit filed by the child of a deceased father who was run over by a garbage truck backing up over him while he was passed out drunk in an alley, we did not request DNA testing because we had no reason to believe he was NOT the father (among other things, he had been listed on the child's birth certificate as the father and the child had always been told that he was his father) and we did not want to conclusively establish the plaintiff's case at our expense. However, we did chase down documentation proving that the marriage license provided by the child's mother was a forgery and she was in fact NOT his wife and therefore not entitled to the loss of consortium money that she was seeking. Which evidence you secure and which evidence you ignore depends on where you think the case is going and your strategies for making it go where you want it to.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Don't you usually wait til your client is actually charged before you file a motion about the evidence?

[barskin&co.]

Gee, I wonder if Cindy and George's search for a live Caylee has led them to asking Casey for all the information she has about her kidnapper, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. Surely, by now, she has been able to come up with a phone number or two. What about one of the many addresses she has lived at so they can talk to the neighbors. How about those stores where Z used to shop, where she said she sometimes picked up Caylee? And, hey, Juliette Lewis must have called back by now, huh? She may have an idea about Z and her cohorts. After all, Cindy claims Casey has stuck to her story since day one. So Casey must have come up with the clues that could lead George and Cindy in the right direction, mustn't she? Oh, what? She isn't supposed to talk to her parents about this stuff? Wow, that must make things a lot more difficult.

[luvinlife]

snipped for space

Radio now going to play Casey's 911 call and talk to other callers after the break.


Thank you for doing this Little Bitty

[MyrDawn]

LE can't even decide if Caylee is dead, much less who killed her.

Oh, I don't think they have any doubts about either of those things.
JMO

[day2day]

I'd settle for why did she lie? And now we know she's not afraid of the police. Why lie? IMO, even if someone did steal Caylee, which I do not believe, if she's dead now, Casey killed her with her lies.

It really is as simple as that!

[dixie77]

When LE makes it a reality that Caylee really is dead, full-time dead and not that she "might" be dead in one paragraph and the very next paragraph they backtrack, then we'll see.

So far they haven't done anything other than hedge with "we think, maybe, possibly" and other assorted likeness.
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Seems like u may be the only one that is reading that. Myself and others r reading differently.

[Shellberry]

Announcer wants those who were throwing rocks and stuff at the house to call in. Give them a real reason for why they were out there. Are they more qualified than the rest of us? Do they know more than the rest of us?

More insults on the webcam photage...

Caller is saying that if the media wasn't out there there wouldn't be protesters. More concerned about the neighbors.

I understand why they are covering this aspect...I just don't understand what this is going to do to make Casey say whatever happened to Caylee (my words). Seriously. What is in it for her, as Ryan Paisley her BFF according to the document dump who won't even be a character witness for her at trial...There is nothing in it for Casey because she doesn't want to go to jail...

Radio now going to play Casey's 911 call and talk to other callers after the break.
I tried to call back and got through-- the guy asked my name, I told him & I said-I just called but you hung up on me.
he said I can call back at 9 for the contest, I told him I wasnt calling about a contest.-I was calling to talk about the anthonys since I got cut off.
he said-oh, that was the last segment, they play later where you are. (my cell is a PA cell so my friends/family dont have to call long distance)
I said, no I was just on a little bit ago to talk about the anthonys and I got asked a question instead.

he asked where I was calling from, I told him, lol
and he said to call back for the next segment at 9
:shrug::shrug:


interesting right now if you have the news link on-them talking about the anthonys again and a caller right now saying she knows the people who were out front.


imo/jmo

[Joan Weiss]

Mr. Baez' partner, Gabriel E. Adam, was not admitted 9/22/2006 i.e. a year later than Mr. Baez. So perhaps the attorney with TWO YEARS experience is not a particularly great mentor to the attorney with THREE YEARS experience.

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/DB2972A4C9FF009585257206006241C9?OpenDocument
http://www.baezlawfirm.com/gabriel/AboutUs_Gabriel_English.html

Katprint
Always only my own opinionsOh, gawd. TY. :seeya:

[Katprint]

Baez: 4 listed; Casey went to school with his daughters:

CHS Alumni
http://www.colonialhigh.ocps.net/alumni/2004.htm
Wow, good sleuthing! I guess that's why they picked Baez, because they knew him socially. But if you ask me, Casey could really use an attorney with substantially more criminal defense experience, like three decades instead of three years.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Fallen Angel]

Thats my belief but DaddysGirl seems to believe shes alive so she must also believe the kidnapped story. If all that were true then why wouldnt she help the police find her daughter? Why not call 911?

DG said something about Casey hanging out with bad people and something about criminal records but she refused to tell us where she heard this stuff. DG some times makes it sound like Casey's taking the blame for her friends doing bad things........i don't get her at all.

[anyonesguess]

I think that there is actually a protesters thread in this forum...Just a thought. But as to getting their groups together, ITA, use PM's.

As far as the courts, there should be some kind of injunction against the protesters...as far as being able to stand outside law abiding, property tax paying neighbors' houses that have nothing to do with this. This powder keg will only wind up getting people hurt or arrested. It is not doing anything to Casey. Casey feels nothing.

Casey has learned how to call 911. Too bad she didn't think of that in the middle of June.

I bet JB is not too happy about her calling either, as I believe the call will be used during her upcoming trial. How do you explain you didn't call 911 for your own 2 1/2 year old daughter, but you did for some protesters in an argument with your parents?

[Rayosunshine]

DG said the other day she think caylee's alive.

I think Caylee is alive too. At this point I think we have a 50/50 chance either way.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[rosejustrose]

Talk to who, the public?

She doesn't owe the public answers in an ongoing criminal case, and Baez nor Private Investigators are about the broadcast to the public at large what's going on behind the scenes.


Your cryptic, I know what's going on behind the scenes, half a$$ed posts are getting tiresome. If you want to play games, there are plenty of places to do that. If you have an opinion, state it, please stop trying to make anyone believe that you are speaking from a position of in the know for the Anthonys. It's embarrassing. As far as I have seen you have not once expressed your own opinion. IMO.

[Fallen Angel]

I think Caylee is alive too. At this point I think we have a 50/50 chance either way.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

uh huh yeah yeah i know how you feel......:seeya:

[Texas48]

Dr. Phil.... Just what is needed for this circus to continue. Why doesn't he stay out of it? Geez.

:punch: I really do feel sorry for LE in this case. Has been an up hill battle all the way and then throw in all the players. Now...Dr. Phill no less. OMG..Everyday one has to quess who will be next? Damnest case I have ever followed and I have followed alot just as many of you have. Just out of curiosity...Has any poster here seen another case similar to this one?

[desmom]

George Anthony Speaks Out
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/george_anthony_speaks_out.html

[shelbar53]

katprint, its seems you are an attorney so I have a question. Does a client have to tell their lawyer the truth... or does the lawyer want to know the truth from a client?

[Pag Boi]

If you honestly believe that the evidence is going to help your case, then having your expert watch while the other side's expert destroys the potentially helpful evidence - particularly if there is any disagreement concerning proper testing protocols, as there sometimes is particularly with new, cutting-edge technologies - is NOT sufficient. Certainly it would be worth fighting for a neutral expert to test the evidence rather than the other side's professional liar so-called "expert" who might destroy the evidence and then lie about the test results.

If you don't believe the evidence is going to help your case, then you don't bother to test it or to suggest testing it. For example, while defending a civil lawsuit filed by the child of a deceased father who was run over by a garbage truck backing up over him while he was passed out drunk in an alley, we did not request DNA testing because we had no reason to believe he was NOT the father (among other things, he had been listed on the child's birth certificate as the father and the child had always been told that he was his father) and we did not want to conclusively establish the plaintiff's case at our expense. However, we did chase down documentation proving that the marriage license provided by the child's mother was a forgery and she was in fact NOT his wife and therefore not entitled to the loss of consortium money that she was seeking. Which evidence you secure and which evidence you ignore depends on where you think the case is going and your strategies for making it go where you want it to.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions



It could be that the tests will use up all of the sample and the defense won't have enough matter to test independently. It is not that unusual. However, a lawyer that can't file a motion is unusual.
MOO

[Fallen Angel]

I think Caylee is alive too. At this point I think we have a 50/50 chance either way.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

don't forget you also believe someone hide a dead body in the trunk :rolleyes:

[firefly75]

I think Caylee is alive too. At this point I think we have a 50/50 chance either way.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
sorry....I think it is 100% chance 1 way only:(

[Joan Weiss]

I think that the neighbors themselves can possibly sue...for intentional infliction of emotional distress...just a thought. I can't understand why there can't be an injunction. Let them protest...just in a park or something close by. then you aren't violating their right to protest. Just that they can't do it in the neighborhood. And last night they were shouting. They were told by LE they could stay if they were silent. Then the other night that lady yells obsenities and practically cuts her kid's arm off in the car door.I'm getting tired of reading this. The kid was in the car. Cindy hauled over and the mother opened her car door. Cindy stuck her face in. The kid opened his door for whatever reason, and the mother got restrained by one of her passengers, while Cindy got restrained by George. In the altercation, the back door slammed on the kid who was getting out of the back door.

DID YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? imo

[barskin&co.]

And Caylee has a right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" (cited in the United States Declaration of Independence as being among the "unalienable rights of man" endowed by the Creator.)

:rose:


Yes, yes, yes.

It has been 94 days. What about Caylee's rights???

[rosejustrose]

Thats my belief but DaddysGirl seems to believe shes alive so she must also believe the kidnapped story. If all that were true then why wouldnt she help the police find her daughter? Why not call 911?

That OP has yet to express what she believes. She posts as though she's the Anthonys mouthpiece on these boards. Big yawn, there. Until she/he comes up with an original thought/post, I'm not putting any credibility into any of her/his posts. JMO.

[Fallen Angel]

Ok i'm gonna go watch NG and all that. Yall have a great night. God bless. :rose:

[Takotna]

Oh great. Time for a slumber party! jmo


Interesting, I noticed Mike Walker was 'most atheletic' This could be the same Mike Walker referred to in the jail conversations?

AllMO:)

[st777jo]

Its not legal to incite violence, or engage in destruction of property.

I didn't think it was legal to lose/kill your child either, and not let anyone know or help.

[luvinlife]

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I'm not sure why the A's r having such a hard time accepting reality. JMO



Denial, undoing, refusal you name it, all have been mentioned by the TH's on various shows. Not to mention I am sure there are people calling saying they have seen her (maybe not as many as she claims) but after today's article re: other Kaylee it is happening. Casey being a big fat liar (gives them something to hang onto even if she is a liar), and JB telling them that the science is not proven and basically garbage, and also telling them that the police have nothing they are just trying to pressure Casey. I know it doesn't make sense to us, but to them it gives them that false hope to hang onto. All moo

[Boxer]

And Caylee has a right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" (cited in the United States Declaration of Independence as being among the "unalienable rights of man" endowed by the Creator.)

:rose:


well, she did anyway. :rose:

[crymeariver2006]

Baez: 4 listed; Casey went to school with his daughters:

CHS Alumni
http://www.colonialhigh.ocps.net/alumni/2004.htm

Are we sure any of those are his one of his children? The only daughter I've ever heard mentioned is Christina Baez and she's 19.

She's the one that was working during the summer for Jose.

[Katprint]

Don't you usually wait til your client is actually charged before you file a motion about the evidence?
Not if you think the evidence is going to be destroyed before you can stop its destruction. This legal article "Protecting Your Case Against Spoliation of Evidence" explains further.

http://www.iape.org/EvidenceLog/2003-02/spoliation.html

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Rayosunshine]

If LE had proof that Caylee was deceased, why would they swarm and enter that family's home? Doesn't make sense.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Fallen Angel]

That's irrelevant - it doesn't matter who she talks to nor who brings Caylee home alive.

There should be no cornerstone market on who finds Caylee alive.

she's not talking to ANYONE about the case, not even Cindy. you know that.

Casey's hiding and lying and you know that.......any ways........bye

[rosejustrose]

I've never known any dead but a full time kind myself.


Why do you insist on being so logical??? It's been explained any # of times. LE has released information that forensics have been revealed that indicated that a dead body was in Casey's trunk and that is it was Caylee. Not half dead, not half alive. Dead. That OP is just posting the Anthony party line for whatever reasons. Until I see one substantial post where that OP reveals their own thoughts or opinions I'm discarding the contents of their posts. JMO.

[bluwaters]

Wow, good sleuthing! I guess that's why they picked Baez, because they knew him socially. But if you ask me, Casey could really use an attorney with substantially more criminal defense experience, like three decades instead of three years.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

It is intriguing to me that C&G have Orlando's supposed best and most experienced criminal attorney for themselves, while Casey has Baez.
I am waiting for the real reason that NeJame is involved with the Anthony's.

[day2day]

And Caylee has a right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" (cited in the United States Declaration of Independence as being among the "unalienable rights of man" endowed by the Creator.)

:rose:

Thank you house! :rose: