Thursday Sept 18th Evening/Latenight Thread.

[Albini]

The last one reached over 1,000 posts. I hope this is okay.

[Meridian]

So the "late night" thread gets started before 6:00 with the other thread having just a couple hundred posts??? :read:

[nutterbutter]

So the "late night" thread gets started before 6:00 with the other thread having just a couple hundred posts??? :read:

Its okay we can always use this one when the other gets full.Thanks for new thread.I am sure you didnt know one was already started,Happens to the best of us.:rose:

[kakax]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=window.jpg

Image of Anthony's window tonight on webcam

[nutterbutter]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=window.jpg

Image of Anthony's window tonight on webcam
looks creepy.Thanks for the link.mo

[flipflop]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=window.jpg

Image of Anthony's window tonight on webcam

yeah, that is odd. What is that?

[Rayosunshine]

looks creepy.Thanks for the link.mo

Kind of looks like someone hanging from their wrists, from back in the dark ages in a torture chamber.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[kakax]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=window.jpg

Image of Anthony's window tonight on webcam



http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=mobilecam21.jpg

THis is full house shot

[Rayosunshine]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=mobilecam21.jpg

THis is full house shot

And the full house shot looks like the thing has a long tongue hanging out of it.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Boxer]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=mobilecam21.jpg

THis is full house shot

lol, my eyes just don't adjust well. two elephants on a sugar cube?

[msgatorslayer]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=mobilecam21.jpg

THis is full house shot

Could it be the reflection from the palm tree?

[kakax]

My Fox Orlando reporting that there will be another arrest soon in this case. Unclear if it is for another one of Amy's checks that has yet to be filed as stolen.

[kakax]

Could it be the reflection from the palm tree?

I'm thinking it is the tree that is right in front of the house....just looked creepy LOL!!

[hamebone]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=mobilecam21.jpg

THis is full house shot

looks like a spook...:chicken:

[Boxer]

My Fox Orlando reporting that there will be another arrest soon in this case. Unclear if it is for another one of Amy's checks that has yet to be filed as stolen.


well, tomorrow is Friday after all.

[panokatana]

Another arrest of Casey or another arrest?

I hope it's not a teaser line...and they mean...the folks with the van.

JMO

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to begin.


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[mosey2]

yeah, that is odd. What is that?
It's a window into Casey's soul. Dark, creepy, and weird. And scary!:chicken:

[Joan Weiss]

It's a window into Casey's soul. Dark, creepy, and weird. And scary!:chicken:It's the entities riding with Casey. From He//. imo

[mosey2]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=mobilecam21.jpg

THis is full house shot
That is so strange. I think it's Casey on a blue shirt holding a giant pen on the windowsill. Seriously

[FrankieBones1]

The last one reached over 1,000 posts. I hope this is okay.
Great idea. Did you leave a link on the old thread? It helps somewhat.

[msgatorslayer]

My Fox Orlando reporting that there will be another arrest soon in this case. Unclear if it is for another one of Amy's checks that has yet to be filed as stolen.

hammer Has there ever been a case where you weren't happy that the POI is getting arrested? Casey's been arrested and bailed out so many times I feel like saying, so what? lol. However, maybe, just maybe, the big charges will finally come. And or, it's not Casey who is getting arrested.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that it isn't more check charges cause I'm sick to death hearing about them. Now, if LE would be so kind to maybe, oh, tell us what she bought, that may raise my mood.:D

[Joan Weiss]

Did they say arrest of Casey or just an arrest?.........I am thinking the protesters maybe arrested?

I have not been on here much......really busy, but had a dream they were getting closer to finding Caylee. I have always felt they would not find her but the dream seemed so real.Anything is possible. Hold that close to your heart. :cool:

[nana6]

well, tomorrow is Friday after all.

Yes, let's pray for a Friday arrest. But, this time they can keep her I hope. Boxer, what did I miss tonight? I watched the second NG show which was on at 10 here. Did sonething happen on the boards here tonight? It just kind of sounds like it but I did not go way back to look.

[Joan Weiss]

Great idea. Did you leave a link on the old thread? It helps somewhat.All taken care of...

[kakax]

Another arrest of Casey or another arrest?

Of Casey...sorry.

[dixie77]

Does anyone know what LP was talking about tonite on NG? Something about the lady who was in the house watching Casey cant make a statement about what she knows blah blah blah something like that. I wasnt in the room with the tv but i just heard a lil bit of it.

[kakax]

hammer Has there ever been a case where you weren't happy that the POI is getting arrested? Casey's been arrested and bailed out so many times I feel like saying, so what? lol. However, maybe, just maybe, the big charges will finally come. And or, it's not Casey who is getting arrested.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that it isn't more check charges cause I'm sick to death hearing about them. Now, if LE would be so kind to maybe, oh, tell us what she bought, that may raise my mood.:D

I feel the same way. Get to the big charges, already! If you can't tell, I'm not a very patient person. I just think if what they have leaked is true, they have enough to charge her.

[luvinlife]

Bringing over from last thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by dixie77
Does anyone know what LP was talking about tonite on NG? Something about the lady who was in the house watching Casey cant make a statement about what she knows blah blah blah something like that. I wasnt in the room with the tv but i just heard a lil bit of it.



I rewatched NG and I believe what he said was that the girl that had been guarding Casey in the house 24/7 while they were there didn't go talk to LE in Orlando before she left about anything that Casey said. So her lawyer didn't want her to talk to LE that came until they talked to their bosses in Orlando. I assume she or her lawyer are worried that they could try and charge her for withholding information or something, i am not really sure of the concern, just that there is one.

[bluwaters]

Bright lights on the house now, a reporters legs and feet were on a minute ago.Strange angles on the camera lately

[kakax]

Did they say arrest of Casey or just an arrest?.........I am thinking the protesters maybe arrested?

I have not been on here much......really busy, but had a dream they were getting closer to finding Caylee. I have always felt they would not find her but the dream seemed so real.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear...they were talking about another arrest of Casey, but it is unclear why. The reporter speculated that the arrest may have to do with another one of Amy's check.

[Joan Weiss]

Yes, let's pray for a Friday arrest. But, this time they can keep her I hope. Boxer, what did I miss tonight? I watched the second NG show which was on at 10 here. Did sonething happen on the boards here tonight? It just kind of sounds like it but I did not go way back to look.George wrote a letter to the public, looking for info on last night's assault.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0918/17505766.pdf

[dixie77]

Bringing over from last thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by dixie77
Does anyone know what LP was talking about tonite on NG? Something about the lady who was in the house watching Casey cant make a statement about what she knows blah blah blah something like that. I wasnt in the room with the tv but i just heard a lil bit of it.



I rewatched NG and I believe what he said was that the girl that had been guarding Casey in the house 24/7 while they were there didn't go talk to LE in Orlando before she left about anything that Casey said. So her lawyer didn't want her to talk to LE that came until they talked to their bosses in Orlando. I assume she or her lawyer are worried that they could try and charge her for withholding information or something, i am not really sure of the concern, just that there is one.
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Thanks so much.

[Fallen Angel]

yeah, that is odd. What is that?
my hubby's in California and after i saw that i might not be able to sleep tonight lol:eek:

[Joan Weiss]

hammer Has there ever been a case where you weren't happy that the POI is getting arrested? Casey's been arrested and bailed out so many times I feel like saying, so what? lol. However, maybe, just maybe, the big charges will finally come. And or, it's not Casey who is getting arrested.

I'll keep my fingers crossed that it isn't more check charges cause I'm sick to death hearing about them. Now, if LE would be so kind to maybe, oh, tell us what she bought, that may raise my mood.:DYes, it is getting tiresome, isn't it? I wonder if this one will be BOA or Target, or both. Yawn...

[dixie77]

I'm sorry I wasn't clear...they were talking about another arrest of Casey, but it is unclear why. The reporter speculated that the arrest may have to do with another one of Amy's check.
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Thanks, kakax

[nana6]

George wrote a letter to the public, looking for info on last night's assault.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0918/17505766.pdf

Good Lord, He left his cell phone number!!!

[luvinlife]

Yes, it is getting tiresome, isn't it? I wonder if this one will be BOA or Target, or both. Yawn...


Yeah sorry but the bank charges thing is getting really old. I know it is more time if she is convicted but she will get out of jail again in ten minutes anyway so why not do them all at once.

[nana6]

George wrote a letter to the public, looking for info on last night's assault.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0918/17505766.pdf

thank you Joan.

[beetlebrow]

lol, my eyes just don't adjust well. two elephants on a sugar cube?

Pig on left hugging alien on right....IMo

[Fallen Angel]

Yeah sorry but the bank charges thing is getting really old. I know it is more time if she is convicted but she will get out of jail again in ten minutes anyway so why not do them all at once.

so let me get this straight. you feel like these banks should just shut up and not charge people for doing stuff like this?

[Cury-us Coyote]

Did anyone hear CA on the Univision Spanish language TV station? Did she speak Spanish or was an interpretor supplied? Were people urged to get busy searching? Were specific locations mentioned? Anything new and different revealed? TIA

[msgatorslayer]

Yes, it is getting tiresome, isn't it? I wonder if this one will be BOA or Target, or both. Yawn...

Lordy. Can ya imagine if Amy had a few thousand dollars in her bank account? LE would have enough to place Casey on weekend jail status for the rest of the year.

Yes, very tiresome.

[Joan Weiss]

my hubby's in California and after i saw that i might not be able to sleep tonight lol:eek:Yes, I thought it might be a shadow from the trees, but that doesn't fly, imo. It's definitely weird. :chicken:

[concernedmom]

Kind of looks like someone hanging from their wrists, from back in the dark ages in a torture chamber.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

:lol::lol:

[Boxer]

Good Lord, He left his cell phone number!!!

don't call it. next thing you know camo dressed swat teams are throwing you to the ground and yelling "Where is Caylee, Zenaida...?"

[nana6]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=window.jpg

SPOOKY!!

Does anyone else see alligators?? It is two sitting together on the square shape their heads are overlapping..........the one on the right you can see both eyes looking at you and even its tail hanging over the square. The one on the left you can see the profile with one eye and the large long mouth. I am so serious!!

Hey Tree, I am squinting to see this and I kinda see what you mean. Are you saying this means something to you though? I will admit it is weird looking

[Joan Weiss]

so let me get this straight. you feel like these banks should just shut up and not charge people for doing stuff like this?No, luvin said they should do them all at once.

[nana6]

don't call it. next thing you know camo dressed swat teams are throwing you to the ground and yelling "Where is Caylee, Zenaida...?"

Good idea maybe they could go to Hopespring Drive and do just that!!!!

[Rebel Rouzer]

Good Lord, He left his cell phone number!!!

I can almost guarantee he did that for a reason other than wanting info from public.

They know how the people are reacting and all the info they have out there is causing them grief. To go and publish that number like that. it's for a purpose to use for something. In my opinion.

[beetlebrow]

Bringing over from last thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by dixie77
Does anyone know what LP was talking about tonite on NG? Something about the lady who was in the house watching Casey cant make a statement about what she knows blah blah blah something like that. I wasnt in the room with the tv but i just heard a lil bit of it.



I rewatched NG and I believe what he said was that the girl that had been guarding Casey in the house 24/7 while they were there didn't go talk to LE in Orlando before she left about anything that Casey said. So her lawyer didn't want her to talk to LE that came until they talked to their bosses in Orlando. I assume she or her lawyer are worried that they could try and charge her for withholding information or something, i am not really sure of the concern, just that there is one.

Lenny had a contract with Baez......I think this is what the legal implication is.

[Joan Weiss]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=window.jpg

SPOOKY!!

Does anyone else see alligators?? It is two sitting together on the square shape their heads are overlapping..........the one on the right you can see both eyes looking at you and even its tail hanging over the square. The one on the left you can see the profile with one eye and the large long mouth. I am so serious!!They are devils from he//, imo.

[panokatana]

George wrote a letter to the public, looking for info on last night's assault.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0918/17505766.pdf

I thought they had all the info they needed, from the way Casey spoke. I mean...after all, they had a tag number and she did say that it was "recorded by Channel 2". Maybe...a photo of the van plastered on a mobile billboard would capture the perps.?
Imagine how this case would be, now...if the family (including Casey - even if it were feigned concern,) had been this aggressive from the beginning...in their search for Caylee.

JMO

[Boxer]

for whoever before was looking for Baez info. post 57


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12143285#post12143285

[beetlebrow]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=window.jpg

SPOOKY!!

Does anyone else see alligators?? It is two sitting together on the square shape their heads are overlapping..........the one on the right you can see both eyes looking at you and even its tail hanging over the square. The one on the left you can see the profile with one eye and the large long mouth. I am so serious!!


OK!!!!! This is much closer to a pig and an alien...wahoo I'm not cuckoo!!

[Fallen Angel]

No, luvin said they should do them all at once.

ohhhhh ok . i'm sorry.

[Joan Weiss]

thank you Joan.My pleasure, nana. Couldn't he have done this for Caylee?

[concernedmom]

Yeah sorry but the bank charges thing is getting really old. I know it is more time if she is convicted but she will get out of jail again in ten minutes anyway so why not do them all at once.

Agree. This in and out just makes the protesters more agressive also.

[msgatorslayer]

so let me get this straight. you feel like these banks should just shut up and not charge people for doing stuff like this?

I don't think any of us think that, Fallen.

We're all angry and running out of patience that a mommy killer is only being arrested for check charges. Again, and again, and again...

[beetlebrow]

Good Lord, He left his cell phone number!!!


Oh good now people can harass him on the phone.......complete break with reality.......this whole family needs to be committed for their own good and I am not kidding!!!!!!

[luvinlife]

so let me get this straight. you feel like these banks should just shut up and not charge people for doing stuff like this?




NO not at all, I am just tired of her going in and out of jail on these charges and not murder charges. I think they could have charged her all at once for everything (all cheques and related together). If their purpose was to put pressure on her re:the yo-yo thing it doesn't seem to be working. I am not LE or a lawyer so i don't know how it usually works, but I just think it could all be done as one. |The media just makes such a big stink that ooohhh she is going back to jail and then we find out it is for the checks and not the murder charges most are hoping for. moo

[Rebel Rouzer]

You think his purpose is to invite the mobs of vigilante trouble makers to harass via the phone, rather than on his front lawn>?

Either that or just to show that people like you can call him for a date. Either way he gets the attention he wnts other than the attention he doesn't want.

He made the last public announcement asking for information on his grandchild when? Im sorry i missed it. :read:

[luvinlife]

No, luvin said they should do them all at once.

Thanks Joan I posted again before I saw your post.:seeya:

[Fallen Angel]

I don't think any of us think that, Fallen.

We're all angry and running out of patience that a mommy killer is only being arrested for check charges. Again, and again, and again...

i know Ms Gator i fudged up :(

[luvinlife]

Lenny had a contract with Baez......I think this is what the legal implication is.


I wondered that too, he didn't say it on NG, but my kids were up so I may have missed it.

[bluwaters]

Girl Mistaken For Caylee Anthony
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/girl_mistaken_for_caylee_anthony.html

Kaylee's mother, Kim, said during the early hours of Aug. 15, Sheriff's deputies knocked on her door and they demanded proof she was her daughter.

Ok, that makes more sense to me now. This didn't happen in the past day or two.

[barskin&co.]

Bringing over from last thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by dixie77
Does anyone know what LP was talking about tonite on NG? Something about the lady who was in the house watching Casey cant make a statement about what she knows blah blah blah something like that. I wasnt in the room with the tv but i just heard a lil bit of it.



I rewatched NG and I believe what he said was that the girl that had been guarding Casey in the house 24/7 while they were there didn't go talk to LE in Orlando before she left about anything that Casey said. So her lawyer didn't want her to talk to LE that came until they talked to their bosses in Orlando. I assume she or her lawyer are worried that they could try and charge her for withholding information or something, i am not really sure of the concern, just that there is one.

Yes, that's what he said, except for the fact he talked about some place called "Orlundo". She must have heard something pretty juicy stuff if they want to prevent withholding information charges. :eek:

[beetlebrow]

don't call it. next thing you know camo dressed swat teams are throwing you to the ground and yelling "Where is Caylee, Zenaida...?"

:lol: SPEW.....thanks for my biggest laugh tonight!!!!!!!......you were kidding right??.....:eek:

[Fallen Angel]

NO not at all, I am just tired of her going in and out of jail on these charges and not murder charges. I think they could have charged her all at once for everything (all cheques and related together). If their purpose was to put pressure on her re:the yo-yo thing it doesn't seem to be working. I am not LE or a lawyer so i don't know how it usually works, but I just think it could all be done as one. |The media just makes such a big stink that ooohhh she is going back to jail and then we find out it is for the checks and not the murder charges most are hoping for. moo

:(i fudged up sorry

[shelbar53]

Ha found you guys. Ok 2 things, 1st what is a troller? 2nd. i posted the link of baez in a huff....seems like the honeymoon is over. casey got him mad...i think when she did that when che called 911. he throws the car door open for her then speeds away.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

[bluwaters]

Well the one on the right has its back to us and is looking over its left shoulder while the one on the right is facing our way.

I am starting to wonder if it does mean something. I only see alligators nothing but except the square they are sitting on........really weird!!
I see it too, but I don't think it means anything.
I have seen lots of strange things that aren't there from time to time on the caseycam.
It is spooky though.

[Joan Weiss]

I thought they had all the info they needed, from the way Casey spoke. I mean...after all, they had a tag number and she did say that it was "recorded by Channel 2". Maybe...a photo of the van plastered on a mobile billboard would capture the perps.?
Imagine how this case would be, now...if the family (including Casey - even if it were feigned concern,) had been this aggressive from the beginning...in their search for Caylee.

JMOThat was just Casey speak. It's code for "I'm in control." She's FOS. imo

[Boxer]

Either that or just to show that people like you can call him for a date. Either way he gets the attention he wnts other than the attention he doesn't want.

He made the last public announcement asking for information on his grandchild when? Im sorry i missed it. :read:


Does walking through a parking lot screaming that he's going to knock people down count?...TIA

[luvinlife]

Yes, that's what he said, except for the fact he talked about some place called "Orlundo". She must have heard something pretty juicy stuff if they want to prevent withholding information charges. :eek:


lol I know that makes me laugh everytime he says that.

I was thinking the same thing, probably all bs but still interesting I guess, maybe she heard family stuff and not just from Casey.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Why would I want to date a married man? Maybe its okay for you to date married men, its not so okay for me.

I never said that and BTW I stated people LIKE you I never said YOu imparticular. Now did I?

:no:

[beetlebrow]

Maybe a separate thread about the visions seen on windows, tree's, toast, etc..would be more appropriate.

You don't have much of a sense of humor do you?

[luvinlife]

:(i fudged up sorry



it is okay we all do that sometimes:seeya:

[Boxer]

Or the FBI is calling you at work.



Don't ask how I know.


okay, I'll ask house...:D

[Rebel Rouzer]

Does walking through a parking lot screaming that he's going to knock people down count?...TIA


Of course it does. :D

You are a doll

[Joan Weiss]

Ha found you guys. Ok 2 things, 1st what is a troller? 2nd. i posted the link of baez in a huff....seems like the honeymoon is over. casey got him mad...i think when she did that when che called 911. he throws the car door open for her then speeds away.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-USHee, hee...he looks ticked! :cool:

Thanks. :D

[concernedmom]

CW has asked that we stay on topic and cut down on the garbage being posted. It has nothing to do with my sense of humor.

On the web cam you could see what it was. The light was on in Caseys room and someone was looking out the window for a few minutes then the light went off.

[Rebel Rouzer]

CW has asked that we stay on topic and cut down on the garbage being posted. It has nothing to do with my sense of humor.


If there weren't such adverse parties in all of this we could probaly do that. :read:

[nana6]

You don't have much of a sense of humor do you?

Ya know, I agree with you. We need a little humor here now and then because this whole case is so morose and sad. Poor Caylee. She is ours now.. People love her who are here and have never even met her.:rose:

[hamebone]

Maybe a separate thread about the visions seen on windows, tree's, toast, etc..would be more appropriate.

I thought you said earlier...you'd leave CW to mod the boards...why not pm her with your request?...maybe you have already?

[concernedmom]

Oh .. was it the pigs or the aliens?


If it was Casey Id go with either one.
:biggrin:

[Rebel Rouzer]

People like me? Care to expand?

Oh c'mon now. You know exactly what I mean. Aren't you the one who was bashing the protesters based solely on what you've seen by their looks and things they have said? You do know what YOU said don't you?

[Boxer]

Ha found you guys. Ok 2 things, 1st what is a troller? 2nd. i posted the link of baez in a huff....seems like the honeymoon is over. casey got him mad...i think when she did that when che called 911. he throws the car door open for her then speeds away.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US


I would love to put that on a loop thingy and just have it going...and going...

[luvinlife]

Or the FBI is calling you at work.



Don't ask how I know.



Would it have anything to do with the Trenton Duckett case perhaps?
:)


I was thinking maybe LE arrested Casey right away for fear she may do the same thing as MD. I know they had a reason to arrest her but they may have been worried she would take off or kill herself.

[panokatana]

That was just Casey speak. It's code for "I'm in control." She's FOS. imo

Wow! And...still, from what I could hear, using that condescending "tone" with her mother (much like the tone in her conversation with Cindy from the jail). IMO, not a trace of humility, or gratefulness for their "protection" when she said..."I already DID! I CALLED them!" (paraphrased)
Wouldn't it have been just...cool...if Cindy had snapped, waved the bat, or aimed the hose at Casey's sassy little hairdo, and said..."Don't USE that tone with ME, Missy!"

...FOS, yep...that is an apt opinion! :)

JMO

[martha]

good night my friends I guess we will not find out anything about caylee tonight. Casey;s lawyer has told her to not talk so he may have got upset with her for calling 911 last night. he is so crazy about her i doubt he got to upset with her. jmho:rose:

[nana6]

Oh .. was it the pigs or the aliens?

Scooby, I don't know you but I am sure you have some interest in this case. If we are not discussing the sadness that is going on with this case every single minute forgive us. We need a little humor now and then, It is really ok, and if you think it is not then you have 2 options. Tell CW what you find so objectionable or go to another site. Simple. :)

[beetlebrow]

CW has asked that we stay on topic and cut down on the garbage being posted. It has nothing to do with my sense of humor.

What sense of.......Oh never mind. The topic was what we are seeing on the web cam and that it might be Casey. Is web cam stuff not allowed now???? You have to admit that this case is so bizarre and disturbing in so many ways that a little giggle here and there helps take the edge off if only for few minutes. I think this is a totally human response. Back to Caylee........:read:

[Joan Weiss]

People like me? Care to expand?This isn't about you. This is about Caylee. Post something about that, OK? Quit baiting. imo

[beetlebrow]

Ya know, I agree with you. We need a little humor here now and then because this whole case is so morose and sad. Poor Caylee. She is ours now.. People love her who are here and have never even met her.:rose:

Mooowaaa.....a kiss from beetle to Nana...:rose:

[hamebone]

NO, Nana.. I'm sorry. Caylee has NEVER been ours, and NEVER will be. She is the grandaughter of George and Cindy Anthony, and if Caylee belongs to anyone, it would be them.

imo

She is in alot of hearts and prayers...she is not of our blood...but she has become part of our spirit..

I like this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaN2o_uOF_I

[nana6]

NO, Nana.. I'm sorry. Caylee has NEVER been ours, and NEVER will be. She is the grandaughter of George and Cindy Anthony, and if Caylee belongs to anyone, it would be them.

imo

Ok Scooby, Ya got me there. Gee, I really thought she belonged to us here? Why be soooo bitter to all?

[Rebel Rouzer]

I don't bash. Yes I based my conclusion on their filthy criminal thug looks, and disgusting foul words they spoke. Have a problem with that, so be it.


:lol:You don't bash? :lol: You do have a sense of humor. The things you learn when you are willing to listen or read. Daily.

[shelbar53]

I don't bash. Yes I based my conclusion on their filthy criminal thug looks, and disgusting foul words they spoke. Have a problem with that, so be it.

you talking about the anthonys correct? with their cursing and daughter using the f word and the mean and nasty looks on cindy george?

[Joan Weiss]

I don't bash. Yes I based my conclusion on their filthy criminal thug looks, and disgusting foul words they spoke. Have a problem with that, so be it.The Anthonys' foul mouths don't bother you?

[Joan Weiss]

When I come to the Caylee Anthony thread, I shouldnt be expected to wade through endless posts of your perception of a shadow on the Anthony's house. I shouldnt have to go to another site, because a few posters refuse to adhere to the rules of this board.And your posts are.....what?

[Boxer]

I don't bash. Yes I based my conclusion on their filthy criminal thug looks, and disgusting foul words they spoke. Have a problem with that, so be it.
Thug looks, thug behavior, foul mouths are on both sides of the tape imo. How many videos have we had to sit through of the Anthony family doing the same thing? I guess it's all good, right?

[Fallen Angel]

I don't bash. Yes I based my conclusion on their filthy criminal thug looks, and disgusting foul words they spoke. Have a problem with that, so be it.

are you talking about Casey or Cindy? because in those jail phone calls it was F this and F that and let's not forget Cindy saying " smelled like a body in the DAMN car"

[beetlebrow]

Oh .. was it the pigs or the aliens?

No!!!!!.......a pig HUGGING an alien :punch:.....see you do have a sense of humor :D

[shelbar53]

The Anthonys' foul mouths don't bother you?

oh yes it does, i think it cheapens a person, dont u agree?

[tiny paw-prints]

Girl Mistaken For Caylee Anthony
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/girl_mistaken_for_caylee_anthony.html

(snipped) "...August 15, 2008..."

Ok, that makes more sense to me now. This didn't happen in the past day or two.


Yes, but don't you think it's odd that they dropped this info today?

[Joan Weiss]

Wow! And...still, from what I could hear, using that condescending "tone" with her mother (much like the tone in her conversation with Cindy from the jail). IMO, not a trace of humility, or gratefulness for their "protection" when she said..."I already DID! I CALLED them!" (paraphrased)
Wouldn't it have been just...cool...if Cindy had snapped, waved the bat, or aimed the hose at Casey's sassy little hairdo, and said..."Don't USE that tone with ME, Missy!"

...FOS, yep...that is an apt opinion! :)

JMOI think I love you...

[desmom]

The Volusia County LE went to Kaylee's (Caylee Anthony's look-alike) home
http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html on August 15 per
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/girl_mistaken_for_caylee_anthony.html

[Boxer]

when someone posts I'm sorry but you're a big ole whatever or they are whatever, the sorry doesn't mean much...:shrug:

[beetlebrow]

If it was Casey Id go with either one.
:biggrin:


THATS IT....no more liquids while I read this thread....or my computer needs an umbrella!!!

[Joan Weiss]

oh yes it does, i think it cheapens a person, dont u agree?Well, considering that it's Caylee's relatives, I find it hard to forgive. imo

[nana6]

When I come to the Caylee Anthony thread, I shouldnt be expected to wade through endless posts of your perception of a shadow on the Anthony's house. I shouldnt have to go to another site, because a few posters refuse to adhere to the rules of this board.

ok I'm finished. Someone else take this now because I find it rediculous.

[Rebel Rouzer]

And your posts are.....what?


I'm ignoring her from now on.

There are so many people out there just like Casey who can't tell the diiferense:chicken: between truth and lies that it scares me.

[Fallen Angel]

i hate this new forum. everytime i refresh it takes me back to the last thing I wrote......grrrr

and i have the hiccups and can't hardly type .......

that Kaylee looks NOTHING like Caylee to me............

[concernedmom]

Yes, but don't you think it's odd that they dropped this info today?


The parents said they wanted to let people know that Cindy doesnt have a claim that LE isnt looking for a live Caylee.

This happened alot in the Mccann case with children . I would be horrified if LE surrounded my house and made me prove to them my child belonged to me.

[bluwaters]

Yes, but don't you think it's odd that they dropped this info today?
I do. More of that drip-drip chinese water torture...

[beetlebrow]

NO, Nana.. I'm sorry. Caylee has NEVER been ours, and NEVER will be. She is the grandaughter of George and Cindy Anthony, and if Caylee belongs to anyone, it would be them.

imo

Oh my...ownership?....OK I'm just going to skip right by this.....lalala :hat:

[Joan Weiss]

I am offended that you call that child ours, amidst thousands of posts bashing her granparents, who are the only people who ever loved and cared for her. I think its cruel and heartless.No, it's her mother who is cruel and heartless. We are free to love anyone we want. Too bad you didn't know that. imo

[luvinlife]

Yes, but don't you think it's odd that they dropped this info today?


A little, but I guess it is to show proof that they did go look for a live Caylee.

[Boxer]

i hate this new forum. everytime i refresh it takes me back to the last thing I wrote......grrrr

and i have the hiccups and can't hardly type .......

that Kaylee looks NOTHING like Caylee to me............


there is video with pics that resemble other than Kalee is older, bigger and has hair, beautiful hair down to her waist. lol

they have a nice house though...for those who care

[desmom]

Well, I have enough for tonight. Some are only here to disrupt. Please consider scrolling on by or using the ignore option.

Night All!

Praying for Good News for Caylee. :rose:

[nana6]

I am offended that you call that child ours, amidst thousands of posts bashing her granparents, who are the only people who ever loved and cared for her. I think its cruel and heartless.

I really want you to know that I never meant to be cruel or hartless in this case. I am not that kind of person.. I guess I just meant that it seems like everyone on this board is so very interested in this little girl that we have all taken her into our hearts both individually and as a collect group. That's all.

[Joan Weiss]

What they say to each other in a (private) conversation is their choice. If they stood on a strangers property and did it, I would think and say the same thing about them, as I have about the vigilante mob.It wasn't private.

[panokatana]

I think I love you...

Thanks, Joan! Yeah...I'm not so bad... (teeth and all!) :D
:beer:

JMO

[concernedmom]

Well, I have enough for tonight. Some are only here to disrupt. Please consider scrolling on by or using the ignore option.

Night All!

Praying for Good News for Caylee. :rose:
:seeya:
Nite. I have to go to bed soon too.
Maybe tomorrow will be the day caylee is found.

[Rebel Rouzer]

No, it's her mother who is cruel and heartless. We are free to love anyone we want. Too bad you didn't know that. imo

Someone has a kink in their slinky and it's not you or me.

[Joan Weiss]

I'm ignoring her from now on.

There are so many people out there just like Casey who can't tell the diiferense:chicken: between truth and lies that it scares me.I agree, Rebel. This is about Caylee, not the baiter. Iggy it is.

[barskin&co.]

when someone posts I'm sorry but you're a big ole whatever or they are whatever, the sorry doesn't mean much...:shrug:

But, you'll always be my big ole whatever, Boxer. :rose:

[kOOkie1]

The Volusia County LE went to Kaylee's (Caylee Anthony's look-alike) home
http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html on August 15 per
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/girl_mistaken_for_caylee_anthony.html

...Well there goes the Anthony theory that LE is not looking for a "live" Caylee..(jmo)

[beetlebrow]

Yes, but don't you think it's odd that they dropped this info today?

Not odd......STRATEGIC....;)

[Boxer]

I really want you to know that I never meant to be cruel or hartless in this case. I am not that kind of person.. I guess I just meant that it seems like everyone on this board is so very interested in this little girl that we have all taken her into our hearts both individually and as a collect group. That's all.


Nana6, I don't think that you are, and you should consider the source before getting too upset. You've been a very nice poster to have around...:rose:

[shelbar53]

What they say to each other in a (private) conversation is their choice. If they stood on a strangers property and did it, I would think and say the same thing about them, as I have about the vigilante mob.
doesnt matter who you say it to, its disrespectfull to that person. its crude, my hubby and I do not curse at each other ever

[Boxer]

But, you'll always be my big ole whatever, Boxer. :rose:

and you, mine Barskin...:rose:

[Rebel Rouzer]

and her mother has a lot of company, imo. At least I know better than to claim Caylee as mine.

It's in a spiritual way that Caylee has become Americas child because not one damn member of her family has shown she matters to them. If you find that cruel and heartless then so be it. it tells more about you than it does about those who have accepted Caylee as their own in their hearts and who want here found & given dignity and justice.

IGNORE ya go

[luvinlife]

I really want you to know that I never meant to be cruel or hartless in this case. I am not that kind of person.. I guess I just meant that it seems like everyone on this board is so very interested in this little girl that we have all taken her into our hearts both individually and as a collect group. That's all.



Most of us have taken Caylee into our hearts and some have cried tears for this little girl. I know I have, don't worry we knew what you meant.

[beetlebrow]

Well, he did not answer my letter that asked him where Caylee went, I even sent a SAE with postage.


His cell phone # is on the letter....let us know what he says, and be sure to hold the phone away from your ear...:D

[tiny paw-prints]

When I come to the Caylee Anthony thread, I shouldnt be expected to wade through endless posts of your perception of a shadow on the Anthony's house. I shouldnt have to go to another site, because a few posters refuse to adhere to the rules of this board.

I agree!!!

However, there should Not be the need for a

Caylee Anthony Thread. Don't you agree?

Reality check! Thank you.

[Boxer]

In Cindy's 911 call last night she again used "dear" and "honey" when talking to the 911 operator. She must have still had her crown on late at night.


It's been resized for the reduced weight cindy. Still no report on how Caylee is doing though...:mad:

[hamebone]

I really want you to know that I never meant to be cruel or hartless in this case. I am not that kind of person.. I guess I just meant that it seems like everyone on this board is so very interested in this little girl that we have all taken her into our hearts both individually and as a collect group. That's all.

Nana, you are not cruel or heartless...some people think in very literal terms...I read what you wrote, but I also saw your heart and care in the post.

[trt]

George wrote a letter to the public, looking for info on last night's assault.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0918/17505766.pdf


Unbelievable. He can write a letter to the public about help catching protesters, but when asked for any information he has that would help find his granddaughter, nothing? WOW...just WOW.

[Boxer]

Did Nana leave? In tears? :punch:

[bluwaters]

Guardian Angels Appear Outside Anthony Home; Deputies Out West
http://www.local6.com/news/17509745/detail.html

Members of the Guardian Angels appeared outside of the home of missing Caylee Anthony's family after a series of escalating altercations between protesters and the girl's grandparents.
"Enough is enough," Guardian Angels Orlando Chaplain "Colorado" said. "When I saw the news of that girl grabbing Mr. Anthony's shirt and trying to pull him out and rocks being thrown against his house (and) people are punching his garage door -- we all have rights. We are American citizens."

[concernedmom]

Most of us have taken Caylee into our hearts and some have cried tears for this little girl. I know I have, don't worry we knew what you meant.

I dont love Caylee like I believe Cindy does. I was walking on the beach this summer with my little GD and I thought about Caylee and my heart broke because Cindy may never have the opportunity to do that with Caylee. But I have Caylee in my prayer journal and I have a burden on my heart for this little girl. I pray for her. I want her to be found and if harm has come to her I want justice for her. :rose:

[johnielee333]

i hope this next arrest of casey is for murder.

[shelbar53]

Do you and hubby stand in strangers neighborhoods yelling baby killer?

no it is not our nature to do that

[beetlebrow]

How on earth is he going to afford that cell phone bill? Oh, I forgot, with the 'Helpfind caylee" funds.

Thats right.....he never said....do not call collect.....

[trt]

NO, Nana.. I'm sorry. Caylee has NEVER been ours, and NEVER will be. She is the grandaughter of George and Cindy Anthony, and if Caylee belongs to anyone, it would be them.

imo

Someone should tell them that. IMO

[johnielee333]

Girl Mistaken For Caylee Anthony
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/girl_mistaken_for_caylee_anthony.html



Ok, that makes more sense to me now. This didn't happen in the past day or two.

so it happened on aug. 15th. i knew it had to be a few weeks or so ago.

[Boxer]

No,wudscoo.... Caylee is mine. She always will be. She is the last thing I think about when I go to bed at night. I pray for her. I have grown to love her as if she was my own child. Don't tell anyone "how to feel or think", it breads HATE.


if Caylee ever came back alive, you'd stand a better chance of getting her than the people on Hopesprings.....JMO

[luvinlife]

I dont love Caylee like I believe Cindy does. I was walking on the beach this summer with my little GD and I thought about Caylee and my heart broke because Cindy may never have the opportunity to do that with Caylee. But I have Caylee in my prayer journal and I have a burden on my heart for this little girl. I pray for her. I want her to be found and if harm has come to her I want justice for her. :rose:


Oh I agree that Cindy and George love that little girl with all their hearts. I can't imagine what pain they are in.

[Margo555]

My personal theory is that Tim and crew found something and following his admitted procedure, moved away and searched for awhile longer that AM and then called it off after LE came in and did their work and removed said find. No other reason to leave. Since then, they have been testing the remains. It has taken usually 2-3 weeks after the find of Tim's group for results on DNA. (it's been 2 weeks now) I think they have Caylee and somehow got info (possibly from Mark himself) that he believes he is the father. If so, they need a DNA sample to match to the one they already have of Caylee's. Hence the trip to CA. Chain of custody and all of that. If he is, he is the one who will get the remains and make the decisions on where to bury her since Casey will be charged and in jail. Now, my question after all of that is ... I have never known anyone who had a DNA paternity test done. I think it took Anna Nicole's baby and Larry a week for results but they had to fly it to Ohio and do both, then fly back and have a court date. So if they have Caylee's how long would it take before doing a DNA paternity on Mark's for matching and have their answer? Anyone know? JMHO

[beetlebrow]

It's in a spiritual way that Caylee has become Americas child because not one damn member of her family has shown she matters to them. If you find that cruel and heartless then so be it. it tells more about you than it does about those who have accepted Caylee as their own in their hearts and who want here found & given dignity and justice.

IGNORE ya go


This is a very powerful post....straight from the heart.....thank you Rebel for sharing sharing your strength and your soul. You have many here who completely agree with you...:rose:

[concernedmom]

[[/U]QUOTE=0000dori;12145464]No,wudscoo.... Caylee is mine. She always will be. She is the last thing I think about when I go to bed at night. I pray for her. I have grown to love her as if she was my own child. Don't tell anyone "how to feel or think", it breads HATE.[/QUOTE]

I remember Beth saying Natalee was everyones daughter.
I think anyone that is a parent or grandparent that gets to following these cases, they become you child. Not in the since that they are your physical child but you put them in your heart and carry a burden for them.
Its weird to explain but I believe we all feel that way or why would we be here?:shrug:

[tiny paw-prints]

um, yeah..reality check. When posters are posting seeing visions of aliens, pigs, mother mary, etc on yesterdays toast, I think it should be considered. Don't you agree?

"Now Lookie Here"... :seeya:

I've been advised numerous times that if I don't like it here, I have the choice to remove myself from the discussion or take it to another forum.

Reality Check & Reminder:

:rose: This is the Caylee Anthony Forum!

PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC! Thank you.

[nana6]

good night everyone.. See you tomorrow. Time to light a candle and go to bed.:rose:

[Boxer]

good night everyone.. See you tomorrow. Time to light a candle and go to bed.:rose:


g'nite Nana...peace

[jammies]

good night everyone.. See you tomorrow. Time to light a candle and go to bed.:rose:



Night, nana. Let's all light candles for OUR Caylee :rose:

[Margo555]

Night, nana. Let's all light candles for OUR Caylee :rose:


Night Nana, sleep well. :seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

Guardian Angels Appear Outside Anthony Home; Deputies Out West
http://www.local6.com/news/17509745/detail.htmlThanks. There weren't any rocks thrown. They weren't trying to drag George into the street. imo :rolleyes:

[barskin&co.]

It is another day. It has now been 95 days. What about Caylee's rights??

:rose:

[tiny paw-prints]

(snipped) In the right situation; it has so many meanings.




Here ya go, you might appreciate this:

Casey Anthony:

http://www.twistedmysterywriter.com/CONTENTS.html

[Boxer]

welcome new poster but lay off Scoobie Doobie's kid, okay? for me? other than that hidey hoe good neighbor

[beetlebrow]

My personal theory is that Tim and crew found something and following his admitted procedure, moved away and searched for awhile longer that AM and then called it off after LE came in and did their work and removed said find. No other reason to leave. Since then, they have been testing the remains. It has taken usually 2-3 weeks after the find of Tim's group for results on DNA. (it's been 2 weeks now) I think they have Caylee and somehow got info (possibly from Mark himself) that he believes he is the father. If so, they need a DNA sample to match to the one they already have of Caylee's. Hence the trip to CA. Chain of custody and all of that. If he is, he is the one who will get the remains and make the decisions on where to bury her since Casey will be charged and in jail. Now, my question after all of that is ... I have never known anyone who had a DNA paternity test done. I think it took Anna Nicole's baby and Larry a week for results but they had to fly it to Ohio and do both, then fly back and have a court date. So if they have Caylee's how long would it take before doing a DNA paternity on Mark's for matching and have their answer? Anyone know? JMHO

Im not exactly sure how DNA fits into the search for Caylee unless they suspect that Caylees father/father's family had something to do with her disappearance. Is that what you are thinking?

[Joan Weiss]

It's in a spiritual way that Caylee has become Americas child because not one damn member of her family has shown she matters to them. If you find that cruel and heartless then so be it. it tells more about you than it does about those who have accepted Caylee as their own in their hearts and who want here found & given dignity and justice.

IGNORE ya go

Most of us have taken Caylee into our hearts and some have cried tears for this little girl. I know I have, don't worry we knew what you meant.

I dont love Caylee like I believe Cindy does. I was walking on the beach this summer with my little GD and I thought about Caylee and my heart broke because Cindy may never have the opportunity to do that with Caylee. But I have Caylee in my prayer journal and I have a burden on my heart for this little girl. I pray for her. I want her to be found and if harm has come to her I want justice for her. :rose:

[[/U]QUOTE=0000dori;12145464]No,wudscoo.... Caylee is mine. She always will be. She is the last thing I think about when I go to bed at night. I pray for her. I have grown to love her as if she was my own child. Don't tell anyone "how to feel or think", it breads HATE.

I remember Beth saying Natalee was everyones daughter.
I think anyone that is a parent or grandparent that gets to following these cases, they become you child. Not in the since that they are your physical child but you put them in your heart and carry a burden for them.
Its weird to explain but I believe we all feel that way or why would we be here?:shrug:[/QUOTE]and there's nothing wrong with that.

Caylee.....:rose:......

[barskin&co.]

Im not exactly sure how DNA fits into the search for Caylee unless they suspect that Caylees father/father's family had something to do with her disappearance. Is that what you are thinking?

What I can't help thinking is that if another family were involved, they could fight for Caylee's rights, alone.

[Margo555]

Im not exactly sure how DNA fits into the search for Caylee unless they suspect that Caylees father/father's family had something to do with her disappearance. Is that what you are thinking?


No, not at all, as I said in the original question post, I think it would come into play if he were the father and they had actually found her remains. He would have a right to know along with Casey.

[beetlebrow]

good night everyone.. See you tomorrow. Time to light a candle and go to bed.:rose:


Sweet dreams hun.....:rose:

[Margo555]

What I can't help thinking is that if another family were involved, they could fight for Caylee's rights, alone.

yep, that too. And he would have input into what is done with her remains. MOO

[Boxer]

Anna Nicole paternity used a private lab I think. We are waiting in a crime lab..a backlogged crime lab..

[Margo555]

Anna Nicole paternity used a private lab I think. We are waiting in a crime lab..a backlogged crime lab..

That's true, I had forgotten that.

[beetlebrow]

What I can't help thinking is that if another family were involved, they could fight for Caylee's rights, alone.

That would be wonderful Barskin........I thought of something else....

If they were having trouble identifying the DNA found in the trunk....it might help to have the fathers DNA?

[beetlebrow]

No, not at all, as I said in the original question post, I think it would come into play if he were the father and they had actually found her remains. He would have a right to know along with Casey.


Ok I understand...thanks for reponding :)

[Joan Weiss]

George speaks:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/george_anthony_speaks_out.html



Ryan Paysley speaks:

http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4264657

[Margo555]

Ok I understand...thanks for reponding :)


No problem. :D

[Joan Weiss]

I'm glad Scooby is here to keep things in check. (Even though she reminds of my mother in law on occasion.)
Sometimes we all get a little carried away and sound like an angry mob.
The Anthony's are parents .. and grandparents... who are the midst of something we can't even begin to understand.
I appreciate differing views.
I don't understand why it makes some of you so MAD?
It doesn't make me mad. It makes me think.This is the Caylee
Anthony thread. :rolleyes:

[Boxer]

George has been reading the board again..:cool: in the video he pretty much said everything we said today. Went from berating the media to telling them they were fantastic. Jose musta told him to lay off the temper on tape.

[barskin&co.]

They need the DNA to identify the body in the trunk as Caylee's. It appears the DNA from the hair was from the shaft and mitochondrial and not nuclear. Could be Caylee's or Casey's. Or Cindy's for that matter. I don't think they have the combination of human decomposition and personal identification that they are suggesting they have. The TH experts on tv know nothing about the cases they hold forth on.

MOO
But, I have heard that the hair shows signs of decomposition. Also, Casey and Caylee's hair had different lengths, and Cindy's a different color.

[Joan Weiss]

Jessie Grund took a lie detector test, and Xanax came up in the questions. :eek:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html

[tiny paw-prints]

No, not at all, as I said in the original question post, I think it would come into play if he were the father and they had actually found her remains. He would have a right to know along with Casey.

I agree with your original theory. I'm not sure as to the legal remedy of the situation. A paternity test could prove MH is the father and I would think that would be sufficient evidence under the current circumstances and necessary time constraints. IMO

His legal rights could further come into play if there's sufficient evidence of proof, such as consistent communications with Casey about Caylee's welfare and any child support provided in the past 3 years, even if there's no court order for same.

[impartial]

I'm glad Scooby is here to keep things in check. (Even though she reminds of my mother in law on occasion.)
Sometimes we all get a little carried away and sound like an angry mob.
The Anthony's are parents .. and grandparents... who are the midst of something we can't even begin to understand.
I appreciate differing views.
I don't understand why it makes some of you so MAD?
It doesn't make me mad. It makes me think.


I agree.

I'm also glad the Guardian Angels arrived to calm the waters in that poor neighborhood.

IMO

[Boxer]

Yesterday I may have believed Ryan, today no. Casey calls the police when she is "scared" right?

[Joan Weiss]

Aw Joanie! I know that. I'm just sayin' The Anthony's drive me nuts too. Sometimes the vitriol is a bit much. ;)I know. I just worry about the board getting closed down. :shrug:

Did you hear about another pending arrest for the princess? What do you think it will be for?

[Boxer]

Both of my children are fine, but thanks for the concern.


no problem.

[Joan Weiss]

I agree.

I'm also glad the Guardian Angels arrived to calm the waters in that poor neighborhood.

IMOThis case is starting to remind me of a messy desk, with papers piled high. I want to go aaaargh! and toss everything! hammer

[barskin&co.]

Yesterday I may have believed Ryan, today no. Casey calls the police when she is "scared" right?

You know, her friends, or, shall we say, acquaintances, will say they cannot imagine her killing Casey on purpose, that it had to be an accident. But, if a few months ago, you asked the same people if they thought it was possible that Caylee could die accidently, and Casey would tell no one, go to her boyfriend's, and party it up for a month with no sign of concern, they would have said, "no way," I will bet you.

[tiny paw-prints]

Brilliant yet Accurate! :beer: Thanks TPP :D Dots

Y/W!

The link was provided by another member this morning.

I can't take credit for the find!

[barskin&co.]

I don't have a link available but the impression I had at the time was that they were putting together the info re human decomp from the Body Farm and the hair found in the trunk which would eliminate Casey only because of length, etc. and not by DNA in forming their leak statement. I know it was said there was decomposition in the hair, but I only heard that after it was filtered through the talk shows. An article linked at the time (plus Dr. Michael Aha Baden) said that hair that falls from a dead body will fall intact and will include the root. But, from the DNA results, it sounded as though they do not have the root and, so, fudged the leak by combining that info with the air sample info.

I hope I am wrong.

MOO

DNA Test Results Of Hair, Stain Found In Car Indicate Caylee Anthony Is Dead

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Orange County detectives were expected to meet with the State Attorney's office to discuss new evidence in the Caylee Anthony case. A source close to the investigation confirmed for Eyewitness News, that FBI test results show hair and a stain in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car belong to her daughter, 3-year-old Caylee Anthony. Eyewitness News was also told the evidence found proves that she is dead.
The State Attorney's Office also confirmed on Wednesday that Casey Anthony was invited to their office to shed light on the disappearance of Caylee. The State Attorney's Office is not revealing details about the offer of limited immunity. Eyewitness News has learned there is a time limit on that offer, however.

Eyewitness news spoke to a forensic expert to find out how investigators are able to use DNA to determine that a dead body was in Casey's trunk.

"Just putting the hair under the microscope one can tell the difference between a normal hair root and one that's been infected with bacteria after death." stated forensic expert Michael Baden.

Baden is a forensic pathologist who worked extensively on the OJ Simpson case. He also said the inside linings of the mouth and nose release fluid when they begin to decompose and that fluid can also be identified by DNA.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17315205/detail.html


Caylee's Hair Found In Trunk Of Casey's Car
Monday, September 01, 2008 10:39:51 AM
ORLANDO -- Orange County confirmed Sunday they found Caylee Anthony’s hair in the trunk of her mother’s car.

The latest development in the case of the missing 3-year-old comes after other air sample testing showed a decomposing body was inside the car of Casey Anthony.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/8/31/caylees_hair_found_in_trunk_of_caseys_car.html

[beetlebrow]

They need the DNA to identify the body in the trunk as Caylee's. It appears the DNA from the hair was from the shaft and mitochondrial and not nuclear. Could be Caylee's or Casey's. Or Cindy's for that matter. I don't think they have the combination of human decomposition and personal identification that they are suggesting they have. The TH experts on tv know nothing about the cases they hold forth on.

MOO

So that is why they needed to visit the marine...hmmm.....pretty sure they can get these tests done stat (ie case is getting expensive)....hopefully we will know next week.....boy talk about putting pressure on Casey :lol:

[impartial]

I remind you of your mother in law too?
:chicken:


Naw ... my mother in law doesn't like to get involved ... she'd rather golf.

Nice for me though :)

IMO

[Boxer]

You know, her friends, or, shall we say, acquaintances, will say they cannot imagine her killing Casey on purpose, that it had to be an accident. But, if a few months ago, you asked the same people if they thought it was possible that Caylee could die accidently, and Casey would tell no one, go to her boyfriend's, and party it up for a month with no sign of concern, they would have said, "no way," I will bet you.


yup, baby steps for them. Last night proved to me whatever this is, and I believe murder, was an on purpose.

[Boxer]

So that is why they needed to visit the marine...hmmm.....pretty sure they can get these tests done stat (ie case is getting expensive)....hopefully we will know next week.....boy talk about putting pressure on Casey :lol:


unless Jose figures out how to get his motion from the clerk's basket to a judge's desk. Shouldn't have skipped chool that day Jose.

[OneUp]

I am offended that you call that child ours, amidst thousands of posts bashing her granparents, who are the only people who ever loved and cared for her. I think its cruel and heartless.Please everyone remember to include the Grund family when referring to people who love Caylee. Unless one is of the mind that a child must be biologically related to "belong" to a person, she belongs to them as well. For a good portion of her life they believed they were her family, and they continue to love and grieve for Caylee with grace.
FWIW, I believe every child in this world to be "ours"...IMO, a community is responsible for the children in it, especially if their own family fails them. Not just Caylee, but every child. I'm one of those awful types who believe that it "takes a village to raise a child".
JMO.
:rose:Caylee is my child to pray for each night as I hope for her to be found, and I pray that she has known the comfort of God.

[impartial]

But, if they have the root, why did they use the shaft to do a DNA test? The shaft will only show the mother's DNA. It is not a complete profile as would be obtained from the nuclear DNA in the root.

I think if they had a positive identification of both Caylee and that it was a hair that fell from a dead body, that Casey would be in jail now on a murder charge.

Again, I hope I am wrong.

MOO

I don't think they would have done the air testing as well.

IMO

[Boxer]

You mean because Casey kept her cool and called 911?

yup and her tone.

[Joan Weiss]

But, if they have the root, why did they use the shaft to do a DNA test? The shaft will only show the mother's DNA. It is not a complete profile as would be obtained from the nuclear DNA in the root.

I think if they had a positive identification of Caylee from a hair that positively fell from a dead body, that Casey would be in jail now on a murder charge.

Again, I hope I am wrong.

MOOThey can't do a complete DNA if they don't know who the father is, so only the mother would be important for mitochondrial DNA. Of course they can match it to a sample from one of Caylee's things. Perhaps they don't want to destroy the root sample, since they would have to save half for the defense. imo

[barskin&co.]

But, if they have the root, why did they use the shaft to do a DNA test? The shaft will only show the mother's DNA. It is not a complete profile as would be obtained from the nuclear DNA in the root.

I think if they had a positive identification of Caylee from a hair that positively fell from a dead body, that Casey would be in jail now on a murder charge.

Again, I hope I am wrong.

MOO
I think the shaft test is used to test for the band that shows decomposition.

[luvinlife]

I don't think they would have done the air testing as well.

IMO


I tend to agree, why do air testing if the hair and the stain showed signs of decomposition and contained her dna.

Are air tests allowed in court or have they been used before. I think I have asked this before and I am not sure I got an answer anyone know for sure.TIA

[Rebel Rouzer]

Please everyone remember to include the Grund family when referring to people who love Caylee. Unless one is of the mind that a child must be biologically related to "belong" to a person, she belongs to them as well. For a good portion of her life they believed they were her family, and they continue to love and grieve for Caylee with grace.
FWIW, I believe every child in this world to be "ours"...IMO, a community is responsible for the children in it, especially if their own family fails them. Not just Caylee, but every child. I'm one of those awful types who believe that it "takes a village to raise a child".
JMO.
:rose:Caylee is my child to pray for each night as I hope for her to be found, and I pray that she has known the comfort of God.


You have a great heart. That's why. Some just do not cary that in them physically or emotionally. They just see it as "NOT MINE" really don't care I just want to incite people and it's fun. Not me of course just some other people.

[Boxer]

Please everyone remember to include the Grund family when referring to people who love Caylee. Unless one is of the mind that a child must be biologically related to "belong" to a person, she belongs to them as well. For a good portion of her life they believed they were her family, and they continue to love and grieve for Caylee with grace.
FWIW, I believe every child in this world to be "ours"...IMO, a community is responsible for the children in it, especially if their own family fails them. Not just Caylee, but every child. I'm one of those awful types who believe that it "takes a village to raise a child".
JMO.
:rose:Caylee is my child to pray for each night as I hope for her to be found, and I pray that she has known the comfort of God.


I don't try to mention them by name. There are many, I'm sure who crossed Caylee's path, hundreds of posters here and more throughout the world. Just trying to remember all the nics is a chore. I don't believe a child must come from me to love it. No way...emotionally I've had a couple more than the one I set my tea on when preggers...

[luvinlife]

Yeah .. it was interesting to me at least that she sounded indignant.
I had to wonder if it ever occured to her when she kept repeating This has got to stop .. that THIS would have stopped a long time ago if SHE had done the right thing.



I doubt it, but it would be nice wouldn't it.

[Joan Weiss]

I don't think they would have done the air testing as well.

IMOThe "dead body" statement in Cindy's 911 call almost demands the air test, imo. They don't have a body and they might not have one, so they need all the circumstantial evidence they can get. It's going to take more than a hair, imo.

[Boxer]

Yeah .. it was interesting to me at least that she sounded indignant.
I had to wonder if it ever occured to her when she kept repeating This has got to stop .. that THIS would have stopped a long time ago if SHE had done the right thing.


yeah. it sure would have. I've been watching the video of Jose slamming open the car door all day, lol

[Joan Weiss]

It was said there was no way to distinguish it from Casey's except by length, color, etc. (This is when Lenny made his disgusting suggestions on tv.) They may not know Caylee's father, but they know Casey's. They could eliminate her as the donor, if the DNA had come from the root.I guess you missed the last sentence in my post.

[impartial]

They can't do a complete DNA if they don't know who the father is, so only the mother would be important for mitochondrial DNA. Of course they can match it to a sample from one of Caylee's things. Perhaps they don't want to destroy the root sample, since they would have to save half for the defense. imo


It's my understanding tht mitochondrial DNA is derived from the mother, that's why they cannot determine whether it is Caylee's or Casey's hair ... which makes me believe they do not have any death band on the hair.

IMO

[Joan Weiss]

You have a great heart. That's why. Some just do not cary that in them physically or emotionally. They just see it as "NOT MINE" really don't care I just want to incite people and it's fun. Not me of course just some other people.Perhaps that's because those other people feel quite alone in their own struggles. imo

[tiny paw-prints]

So that is why they needed to visit the marine...hmmm.....pretty sure they can get these tests done stat (ie case is getting expensive)....hopefully we will know next week.....boy talk about putting pressure on Casey :lol:


MH might have already submitted his DNA to a private lab. For proper USMC legal channels, I would think a subpoena would be necessary? Maybe this process has already been done. The paternity lab might have already provided the info to LE/FBI. I don't know what the USMC legalities would be in such a criminal investigation, but maybe he's required to be escorted from California to Florida?

[Joan Weiss]

It's my understanding tht mitochondrial DNA is derived from the mother, that's why they cannot determine whether it is Caylee's or Casey's hair ... which makes me believe they do not have any death band on the hair.

IMOI don't see how that leads you to your conclusion. :confused: I didn't read anything stating that they couldn't tell, or that there wasn't a death band. We haven't been privy to those reports.

[Joan Weiss]

I think (sorry, I have no link at all) that it was said (MB) that the band (which takes a while to form and doesn't always) is where the root and shaft meet.

from the article you linked:

"Just putting the hair under the microscope one can tell the difference between a normal hair root and one that's been infected with bacteria after death." stated forensic expert Michael Baden.

****************************************

But, if they had the root, that is what they would test for DNA. Remember in Peterson West, they were only able to test the hair in the boat for mitochondrial and not nuclear DNA, because it did not have the root attached?House, I think that's why Jose submitted that motion to preserve the evidence. Testing the root may destroy it for testing by the defense. Better to wait until charges are filed, and Jose can bring his own expert in to observe the test. imo

[impartial]

I tend to agree, why do air testing if the hair and the stain showed signs of decomposition and contained her dna.

Are air tests allowed in court or have they been used before. I think I have asked this before and I am not sure I got an answer anyone know for sure.TIA


I don't see how they will get the air testing admitted.

The studies that Cury-us linked reveal that air testing has been done in controlled environments; the air samples were all performed knowing the source of the decomposition; some of the chemicals were thought to be from decomposition, but were more likely from vegetation decay, and the earliest the chemicals were observable was 17 days IIRC, with the majority of the chemicals becoming observable only after one month's time with the bodies still there.

IMO

[Joan Weiss]

MH might have already submitted his DNA to a private lab. For proper USMC legal channels, I would think a subpoena would be necessary? Maybe this process has already been done. The paternity lab might have already provided the info to LE/FBI. I don't know what the USMC legalities would be in such a criminal investigation, but maybe he's required to be escorted from California to Florida?Good thought, but I have my doubts that MH is the father. imo

[Joan Weiss]

Joan, I don't think the police or FBI or whoever would neglect to perform a test to positively identify a body in a high profile murder case, because they would have to save half their sample for the Defense.Never mind, I'm sure it will all be explained eventually. I can't seem to get through to you. imo

[Joan Weiss]

I think (sorry, I have no link at all) that it was said (MB) that the band (which takes a while to form and doesn't always) is where the root and shaft meet.

from the article you linked:

"Just putting the hair under the microscope one can tell the difference between a normal hair root and one that's been infected with bacteria after death." stated forensic expert Michael Baden.

****************************************

But, if they had the root, that is what they would test for DNA. Remember in Peterson West, they were only able to test the hair in the boat for mitochondrial and not nuclear DNA, because it did not have the root attached?They already told Cindy and George that all the test results indicate that Caylee is dead. I'm satisfied with that. imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

I don't see how that leads you to your conclusion. :confused: I didn't read anything stating that they couldn't tell, or that there wasn't a death band. We haven't been privy to those reports.

This is getting pretty old arguing aboyt the evidence testing I mean.

They know she is dead they have not formally stated it and are doing what they need for this case at this time.

I can't wait to find out the news that will surprise us all and TES goes back down.

[Joan Weiss]

This test pre-dated that motion. But, I just can't imagine them not testing for identification of a body in a trunk.

I could be wrong, of course. :seeya:They are still trying to find the body. What's the hurry?

[Rebel Rouzer]

They already told Cindy and George that all the test results indicate that Caylee is dead. I'm satisfied with that. imo

Along with with I posted the other day and your post. you are absolutely correct.

[luvinlife]

So if what we are discussing now is true that they have a air test that is not proven in court, and a questionable hair band what is the story?

I can't help but think if they had more they would release something, I know they don't have to but why say they have proof and not have released proof that could be used in court. (Maybe the hair band can I dont know)

I agree with the thought that they could tell the difference between Casey and Caylee's hair if it did contain a death band Casey is alive, so even if they had only mitocontrial (sp) dna they could tell. I thought it had been stated they didn't know if it were Casey or Caylee's in one of the news briefings from LE (not sure).

[Joan Weiss]

The dog alerts coupled with the air sample and the fact that she's missing and her mom never called 911 are good enough for me.Yeh, that's really baaaad. imo

[tiny paw-prints]

Please everyone remember to include the Grund family when referring to people who love Caylee. Unless one is of the mind that a child must be biologically related to "belong" to a person, she belongs to them as well. For a good portion of her life they believed they were her family, and they continue to love and grieve for Caylee with grace.
FWIW, I believe every child in this world to be "ours"...IMO, a community is responsible for the children in it, especially if their own family fails them. Not just Caylee, but every child. I'm one of those awful types who believe that it "takes a village to raise a child".
JMO.
:rose:Caylee is my child to pray for each night as I hope for her to be found, and I pray that she has known the comfort of God.


Yes, I agree! :rose: For the Grund Family

Many village people gather here:

Amber Alerts & Missing People
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/forumdisplay.php?f=10

[impartial]

So at that point it was more of an investigative tool .. rather than evidence that would hold up in court?


I think they thought the trunk would provide tried and tested evidence ... blood, bodily fluids ... and the stain did not turn out to be blood.

So, now they have Casey in jail on $500,000 bond basically because they told the judge that homicide charges were likely. When they didn't get the results they wanted, to keep her bail high while charged with a 3 level felony, they sent the samples out for air testing.

Has anyone from the Body Farm ever come out and said what their results are ... or are we left with sources close to the investigation?

Sources close to the investigation leaks were leaked to put pressure on Casey.

Baez is right on this point. If they really had the evidence that has been leaked they have ... Casey would not be arrested for economic crimes.

IMO

[Joan Weiss]

So if what we are discussing now is true that they have a air test that is not proven in court, and a questionable hair band what is the story?

I can't help but think if they had more they would release something, I know they don't have to but why say they have proof and not have released proof that could be used in court. (Maybe the hair band can I dont know)

I agree with the thought that they could tell the difference between Casey and Caylee's hair if it did contain a death band Casey is alive, so even if they had only mitocontrial (sp) dna they could tell. I thought it had been stated they didn't know if it were Casey or Caylee's in one of the news briefings from LE (not sure).Dr. Kobilinsky said this air test has already been used successfully in court.

Imo, there is great respect for the Body Farm's work.

[luvinlife]

This is getting pretty old arguing aboyt the evidence testing I mean.

They know she is dead they have not formally stated it and are doing what they need for this case at this time.

I can't wait to find out the news that will surprise us all and TES goes back down.


Someone said on WS they talked to TES and they probably wouldn't be going back to Florida until Nov because of Ike damage. I believe that is what they meant.

[OneUp]

Perhaps that's because those other people feel quite alone in their own struggles. imoI agree Joanie...I think alot of rude, attention seeking, and demanding behavior in life and especially in this case comes from people who didn't know love themselves as a child, and continue to try and fill that gaping hole with attention...any type of attention.
There are ways in which I feel a least a bit sorry for every individual in this case, some have failed to earn my respect, some have earned my scorn, but I don't think a single one has had it easy. Unfortunately, it is their choices and the effect those have on their lives and the lives of their loved ones that they must live with. I find that the most important choices are often the hardest to make. As I remind "my kids" and my own child, it is you who will lay your head down each night and know and own all of the things you choose to do in life, both big and small. Those choices and their consequences are yours and yours alone, so make sure that they are choices you CAN live with.
JMO.

[Rebel Rouzer]

So if what we are discussing now is true that they have a air test that is not proven in court, and a questionable hair band what is the story?

I can't help but think if they had more they would release something, I know they don't have to but why say they have proof and not have released proof that could be used in court. (Maybe the hair band can I dont know)

I agree with the thought that they could tell the difference between Casey and Caylee's hair if it did contain a death band Casey is alive, so even if they had only mitocontrial (sp) dna they could tell. I thought it had been stated they didn't know if it were Casey or Caylee's in one of the news briefings from LE (not sure).

Just because they have the results of certain evidence doesn't mean they have to reveal it to all. They don't even have to reveal what they have to defense unless Casey is endcited on those charges. Even then the information turned over is only pertaining to the charges filed. the charges not yet filed. Prosecution may hold back.

[luvinlife]

Dr. Kobilinsky said this air test has already been used successfully in court.

Imo, there is great respect for the Body Farm's work.

.

Oh okay I wasn't sure, I hadn't heard that.


I know I find the Body Farm stuff very fasinating.

[Joan Weiss]

I think they thought the trunk would provide tried and tested evidence ... blood, bodily fluids ... and the stain did not turn out to be blood.

So, now they have Casey in jail on $500,000 bond basically because they told the judge that homicide charges were likely. When they didn't get the results they wanted, to keep her bail high while charged with a 3 level felony, they sent the samples out for air testing.

Has anyone from the Body Farm ever come out and said what their results are ... or are we left with sources close to the investigation?

Sources close to the investigation leaks were leaked to put pressure on Casey.

Baez is right on this point. If they really had the evidence that has been leaked they have ... Casey would not be arrested for economic crimes.

IMOAt Casey's first hearing, the prosecutor recommended that Casey be kept in jail until her daughter was found.

[luvinlife]

What I am trying to say is that I don't think they have the root, which is what they would be using to test whether the hair fell from a living or a deceased person.


Oh see I understood it to be the shaft that showed the hairband not the root. I don't know I am far from a scientist.

[Joan Weiss]

I agree Joanie...I think alot of rude, attention seeking, and demanding behavior in life and especially in this case comes from people who didn't know love themselves as a child, and continue to try and fill that gaping hole with attention...any type of attention.
There are ways in which I feel a least a bit sorry for every individual in this case, some have failed to earn my respect, some have earned my scorn, but I don't think a single one has had it easy. Unfortunately, it is their choices and the effect those have on their lives and the lives of their loved ones that they must live with. I find that the most important choices are often the hardest to make. As I remind "my kids" and my own child, it is you who will lay your head down each night and know and own all of the things you choose to do in life, both big and small. Those choices and their consequences are yours and yours alone, so make sure that they are choices you CAN live with.
JMO.OneUp, your wisdom continually amazes me. I agree, and I believe that it is a parent's job to teach their children how to get along in the world and in life. That is the best thing a parent can give a child, imo. Somehow, Casey missed that lesson. imo

[OneUp]

This is getting pretty old arguing aboyt the evidence testing I mean.

They know she is dead they have not formally stated it and are doing what they need for this case at this time.

I can't wait to find out the news that will surprise us all and TES goes back down.I can't wait either...just because I'm impatient. Hopefully , this will at least be something found that may bring some peace to some family...like the remains found the other day. At least that family can bury their loved one in hallowed ground, and they will wonder no more if the suffering continues. Perhaps the finding of those remains will help lead to justice as well.
JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

Oh see I understood it to be the shaft that showed the hairband not the root. I don't know I am far from a scientist.The band is near, or close to the root, not on the root.

[OneUp]

I hate to ask, but as it is very "quiet" here...did I miss anything earth shattering since George read his demand for information from the public earlier? I had a busy day, a difficult day, and I have the headache to prove it! ( no link! , Sorry!)

[Joan Weiss]

Good night everyone, maybe tomorrow they'll find Caylee. :rose:

[luvinlife]

Good night everyone, maybe tomorrow they'll find Caylee. :rose:


Good night Joan I hope you are right.

God Bless Caylee:rose:

[Rebel Rouzer]

I hate to ask, but as it is very "quiet" here...did I miss anything earth shattering since George read his demand for information from the public earlier? I had a busy day, a difficult day, and I have the headache to prove it! ( no link! , Sorry!)


You did not miss much at all unless you didn't know aout the TES spokesperson's response to reporter.
Developements happening that will surprise is all TES will be back to FL soon one way or the other. Link is posted I just know what page.

[luvinlife]

George speaks:

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/george_anthony_speaks_out.html



Ryan Paysley speaks:

http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4264657



Just this I can't remember anything else. It's late

[Rebel Rouzer]

Rebel, your pm box is full. :D

Thats crazy i just emptied let me try again.:chicken:

[OneUp]

You did not miss much at all unless you didn't know aout the TES spokesperson's response to reporter.
Developements happening that will surprise is all TES will be back to FL soon one way or the other. Link is posted I just know what page.TY so much! I did hear that...I had hoped upon seeing discussion of paternity testing, that some info. had been forthcoming regarding the reason behind the Ca. trip by LE.
I'm reading the links...normally I'd try to read all the posts, but not tonight!

[Rebel Rouzer]

Empty the messages sent and message tracking, too. :seeya:

should be good now

[impartial]

Thanks Impartial-
That's what I was afraid of.


I think LE is desparate to find a body ... before the trial on the neglect charges start in November.

Dog evidence can only be used as corroboration.

I just tried to research any case in which air samples have been admitted into court ... can't find any. I would like to see under what circumstances they were used in any trial, if at all.

If anyone comes across an actual case where air sampling was admitted into court, please pm me.

IMO

[luvinlife]

TY so much! I did hear that...I had hoped upon seeing discussion of paternity testing, that some info. had been forthcoming regarding the reason behind the Ca. trip by LE.
I'm reading the links...normally I'd try to read all the posts, but not tonight!



Oh yeah if you missed NG, BH said a few things, nothing earth shattering. Link is in the links thread. Guardian angels at the Anthony's guarding the house.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I have to head to bed. I will see you all tomorrow if my responses today don't get me in trouble.

I'm now using iggy.. thank goodness. :seeya:

[luvinlife]

I think LE is desparate to find a body ... before the trial on the neglect charges start in November.

Dog evidence can only be used as corroboration.

I just tried to research any case in which air samples have been admitted into court ... can't find any. I would like to see under what circumstances they were used in any trial, if at all.

If anyone comes across an actual case where air sampling was admitted into court, please pm me.

IMO


I've looked myself but only online and couldn't find one. Did you see Joan's post saying that one of the Dr's said they have. I don't know where I am not sure he said when or where.

[impartial]

You did not miss much at all unless you didn't know aout the TES spokesperson's response to reporter.
Developements happening that will surprise is all TES will be back to FL soon one way or the other. Link is posted I just know what page.


I really hope this is true ... TES made similar statements during the Holloway searches.

One thing for sure, they were quite emotional at their press conference when they were letting it be known that they were calling off the searches for now. Either they found her, or they were emotional about having to quit searching.

IMO

[Rebel Rouzer]

I really hope this is true ... TES made similar statements during the Holloway searches.

One thing for sure, they were quite emotional at their press conference when they were letting it be known that they were calling off the searches for now. Either they found her, or they were emotional about having to quit searching.

IMO


Ya just had to post didn't ya. lol

I agree with you that they either found something or they didn't want to end their part of the searches. They did not stop all searches that Sunday Tim announced suspending searches they call off all searches a week later after the searches near UFC.

Takes about a week to identify boned/remains. Could be big surprise.

[impartial]

God, I hope this all works out. This would be a horrific case to lose.


Cases have been lost on more evidence; and won on less evidence.

I think what the State is worried about is that most of the people that know Casey, when asked, think that it was an accident. They need to find out what happened to Caylee in order to charge Casey correctly ... if they overreach, they could lose the entire case.

IMO

[Boxer]

I think LE is desparate to find a body ... before the trial on the neglect charges start in November.

Dog evidence can only be used as corroboration.

I just tried to research any case in which air samples have been admitted into court ... can't find any. I would like to see under what circumstances they were used in any trial, if at all.

If anyone comes across an actual case where air sampling was admitted into court, please pm me.

IMO
I'll just holler now. been looking for three days, all I found was one appeals case for a death row dude.

[AlohaRainbow]

I think LE is desparate to find a body ... before the trial on the neglect charges start in November.

Dog evidence can only be used as corroboration.

I just tried to research any case in which air samples have been admitted into court ... can't find any. I would like to see under what circumstances they were used in any trial, if at all.

If anyone comes across an actual case where air sampling was admitted into court, please pm me.

IMO
don't know how accurate this is, but
"A prosecutor said that these odor results are admissible in court as forensic evidence, but he cautioned that they are nearly as strong as DNA evidence." (assuming typo and they meant "not nearly as strong")
http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=153375

[luvinlife]

Isn't friday the usual day of a new drip of information. I hope they let us know something else. It is so frustrating to not know more. I do want LE to do a good and professional job, but I am selfishly stating now that I want more information.

[Rayosunshine]

Yeah sorry but the bank charges thing is getting really old. I know it is more time if she is convicted but she will get out of jail again in ten minutes anyway so why not do them all at once.

I feel the judge thinks it is getting old, based on the comments he made near the end of the last hearing. Heard him say something about the "same checkbook".

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[impartial]

I'll just holler now. been looking for three days, all I found was one appeals case for a death row dude.


Do you happen to still have the citation?

[Rayosunshine]

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j208/kakax02/?action=view&current=window.jpg

SPOOKY!!

Does anyone else see alligators?? It is two sitting together on the square shape their heads are overlapping..........the one on the right you can see both eyes looking at you and even its tail hanging over the square. The one on the left you can see the profile with one eye and the large long mouth. I am so serious!!

Halloween decorations. lol

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Boxer]

I feel the judge thinks it is getting old, based on the comments he made near the end of the last hearing. Heard him say something about the "same checkbook".

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

yes, and said she could have her own checkbook when the state asked that she not handle checks or credit cards.