View Full Version : Thursday Afternoon/Early Evening Caylee Discussion
Albini
09-18-2008, 06:36 PM
Exactly. And of course my statement was not a slam agaisnt everyone on pa, only the ones who are out there protesting instead of raising their children. I do understand that some think that that is an acceptable activity for us to have to pay for.
What makes you so sure they arent rasing thier children?
If I take 1 hour to protest and leave my child with a responsible babysitter to so do... I am not rasing my child?
Am I rasing my child if that hour was to go grocery shopping?
That makes no sense. I can do both. I can work and raise a child, I can go to school and raise a child. But if I spend an hour or two protesting suddenly all the hours I have put into childrearing become null and viod?
These blanket statments about people on PA need to stop. Its just making you look bad, and frankly has nadda to do with this case.
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 06:36 PM
OOOPS. He doesn't look like a happy camper does he? Maybe he's tired of hanging out all day with Casey while she plays on the internet?
Or maybe his wife told him to start treating her like a client! Lose the hand holding, lose the arm around the shoulders. Lose the whispering.
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:37 PM
[QUOTE=cuddlyrunner;12142879]
Wonder what he's found out.
the house next door went section 8
seriously, everytime George and Cindy pull their defend the ranch stuff, it really makes Casey look bad....Baez does not want them in the news.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:37 PM
Maybe this will sober some people up-
If Caylee is alive and kidnapped she is a small child away from her home and family for 94 days. That is sad enough.
If she is dead she is rotting away in filth, or was pecked at and gnawed on by animals, left for trash, presumably by those who "loved" her!
I cannot imagine this, as a human being. I just cannot wrap my head around it and yet we have numbskulls here picking fights and falling right into the A's ploy to make us forget that dear child, CAYLEE.
:
flamemad:
I don't believe anyone here has forgotten Caylee. I think what you are seeing is a debate over the ensuing actions of the major players since Caylee was FINALLY AFTER 31 DAYS reported missing. There is very little we, as message board posters, can actively do to find Caylee unless we participate in searches. Our contributions to the memory of Caylee and justice for Caylee is to keep information out there and current. To raise issues and debate the importance of them, to slueth, if you will, what information is out there. I often wonder what folks mean when they say, We forgot why we are here. I just don't see it that way. How would you propose we attend to this board? We light candles for Caylee on a regular basis, we remind ourselves that it's been 94 days since she's been seen and we strive to push forward to hope and pray to find Caylee. Not everyone is going to agree about the extraneous actions of those involved in this case and it's going to get heated, ergo - adult debate. I guess you have me confused as to why you think anyone on this board has lost sight of Caylee. TIA for answer. JMHO.
steffaroob4
09-18-2008, 06:37 PM
DCF Says It May Investigate Protesters Who Bring Children To Anthony House (http://www.wftv.com/news/17498709/detail.html)
shelbar53
09-18-2008, 06:37 PM
we need a new thread, this over 1000
CinTN
09-18-2008, 06:38 PM
OOOPS. He doesn't look like a happy camper does he? Maybe he's tired of hanging out all day with Casey while she plays on the internet?
He's probably tired of caseysitting ,, and his wife also .. :punch:
Watch him tell the A's they need to get another attorney ...:eek:
mosey2
09-18-2008, 06:38 PM
If not, the resident said Cindy got the tag number.
No worries.
The resident is a ghostly li' presence. She seems to disappear at will.
Alot of things seem to disappear at HER will
tiny paw-prints
09-18-2008, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by tybek
Hi all! I'm back after being gone several hours. So nothing ever came of the TES spokesperson saying they would be back to make a statement that would "surprise" everyone? I've tried to scan the posting since this morning but didn't see anything about another TES statement. TIA
Nothing further, yet.
Isnt' that ashame. Someone on assistance, who needed help and reached out to get it, should feel disgraced. But a lying, theiving, baby killing, tramp should be put on a pedestal and protected. I'm beginning to wonder just who needs help here. JMHO.
great post
aubrey04
09-18-2008, 06:38 PM
Someone needs to make a new thread.... this one has over 1,000 posts on it...anyone?
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:39 PM
it's also psychologically damaging to make children feel superior or inferior based on the thickness of a wallet
JMO
Give it up. I am not going to make excuses for a small group of irresposible "protesters," the people I was referring to, and you're attempts to take my statements and apply them to everyone on public assistance indicates that you have nothing. The lack of responsiblity, dignity and self respect being displayed by the protesters is the issue....not pretzeling my statement to make it all people on pa instead of a few who are abusing their assistance and children. They get that assistance BECAUSE of their children, and they most certainly are abusing it and their children if they are out the:)re engaging in criminal acts. I understand that its ok with you though, and you're entitled to your opinion. :)
cassidy
09-18-2008, 06:39 PM
Or maybe his wife told him to start treating her like a client! Lose the hand holding, lose the arm around the shoulders. Lose the whispering.
Ahh...you could be right .
WillowInFlight
09-18-2008, 06:39 PM
Or maybe his wife told him to start treating her like a client! Lose the hand holding, lose the arm around the shoulders. Lose the whispering.
You may have a point, I sure as heck would have, let the body guard hold princesses hand.
oldbluesmith
09-18-2008, 06:39 PM
ot
my family, and freinds made it thru hurricane ike...oh wow, that storm rattled witchy's birdcage, lol...
We were lucky here at my house, lil gutter damage, lost back fence, but all is well, and all state ins. on the way..
lucky, we had gas generator, and powered 13 inch tv, deep freeze, ice box, and extended what lil power we had to neighbors..
6 days and no power, but had water, and gas stove...was like camping at koa, mo
so much of texas in turmoil, so many homeless, hungry, etc...so many with out homes...its surrreal...mo
i thank my goddess and mother nature that we made it thru...that our freinds and fam made it thru...
eta. we were in gas line, hours on waiting in line, and made it to gas pump, suddenly a guy weilding a knife was trying to rob some one else at pump, when the police officer shot and killed the man b4 my eyes, before my sons eyes...
real csi experience for me...shook us up...
ok, thank you for letting me be off topic...
now, i wanna thank everyone who has given links, etc..
im going to links thread, gonna play catch up...then play catch up here..
i wont be posting as ill be busy trying to catch up on the last week..
eta, i still chant and pray for Caylee...
now let me get my bifocals and get busy catching up..Witchy, glad to here you made it thru. Sorry about the sights you had to see at the gas station and glad you and your son were not hurt. Hope you don't get Post Tramatic Stress from the sight of the conflict. Prayers for you. JMHO:rose: for you and your son
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:39 PM
If not, the resident said Cindy got the tag number.
No worries.
Hey! Did you see that big advertisement about Caylee and where we can all start looking for her since Casey spilled her beans?
me neither:cuss:
AustinsMama
09-18-2008, 06:39 PM
Originally Posted by Regina.Lampert View Post
LOVED the story of how baez botched the motion regarding the evidence. He is so out of his league and I am so glad he's the psyochopath's attorney.
Did I miss something about Baez botching the motion regarding evidence?? Does anyone have a link? TIA!
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:40 PM
it's become like a jerry springer show gone wrong. :read:
food fight!!!!!
mosey2
09-18-2008, 06:40 PM
[QUOTE=LeslieK;12142894]
the house next door went section 8
seriously, everytime George and Cindy pull their defend the ranch stuff, it really makes Casey look bad....Baez does not want them in the news.
Maybe last night's protester could look into renting it:D
Rayosunshine
09-18-2008, 06:41 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html
FBI agents and Orange County sheriff's detectives plan to extend the Casey Anthony investigation to California.
Please don't let this be the big breaking news. We could have told them that 2 days ago.
Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
Albini
09-18-2008, 06:41 PM
Give it up. I am not going to make excuses for a small group of irresposible "protesters," the people I was referring to, and you're attempts to take my statements and apply them to everyone on public assistance indicates that you have nothing. The lack of responsiblity, dignity and self respect being displayed by the protesters is the issue....not pretzeling my statement to make it all people on pa instead of a few who are abusing their assistance and children. They get that assistance BECAUSE of their children, and they most certainly are abusing it and their children if they are out the:)re engaging in criminal acts. I understand that its ok with you though, and you're entitled to your opinion. :)
The first amendment states we are allowed to protest. How is that illegal acitivites?
See, again with blanket statements.
day2day
09-18-2008, 06:42 PM
good cover....but it probably didn't work.
didn't work for me.
but i spose everyone believes ..moms who murder their beautiful littleones should be home on myspace..and alllllllllllll the protesters in jail.
pfft...
jmo
mosey2
09-18-2008, 06:42 PM
All of the pretend protesters there last night were children - they were just dressed in overgrown bodies.
Word. True dat
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:42 PM
Give it up. I am not going to make excuses for a small group of irresposible "protesters," the people I was referring to, and you're attempts to take my statements and apply them to everyone on public assistance indicates that you have nothing. The lack of responsiblity, dignity and self respect being displayed by the protesters is the issue....not pretzeling my statement to make it all people on pa instead of a few who are abusing their assistance and children. They get that assistance BECAUSE of their children, and they most certainly are abusing it and their children if they are out the:)re engaging in criminal acts. I understand that its ok with you though, and you're entitled to your opinion. :)
nope, didn't help a bit.
Heyes
09-18-2008, 06:43 PM
ot
my family, and freinds made it thru hurricane ike...oh wow, that storm rattled witchy's birdcage, lol...
We were lucky here at my house, lil gutter damage, lost back fence, but all is well, and all state ins. on the way..
lucky, we had gas generator, and powered 13 inch tv, deep freeze, ice box, and extended what lil power we had to neighbors..
6 days and no power, but had water, and gas stove...was like camping at koa, mo
so much of texas in turmoil, so many homeless, hungry, etc...so many with out homes...its surrreal...mo
i thank my goddess and mother nature that we made it thru...that our freinds and fam made it thru...
eta. we were in gas line, hours on waiting in line, and made it to gas pump, suddenly a guy weilding a knife was trying to rob some one else at pump, when the police officer shot and killed the man b4 my eyes, before my sons eyes...
real csi experience for me...shook us up...
ok, thank you for letting me be off topic...
now, i wanna thank everyone who has given links, etc..
im going to links thread, gonna play catch up...then play catch up here..
i wont be posting as ill be busy trying to catch up on the last week..
eta, i still chant and pray for Caylee...
now let me get my bifocals and get busy catching up..
Wow! What a time you have had!
I'm so sorry. I'm happy to hear you made out with not too much damage.
With all that going on you still are thinking about Caylee. How awesome!
:rose:
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 06:43 PM
I was thinking the same thing, he would be on video assaulting a woman. I might take a punch for that too. But of course I am not living close to where this is happening,so of course I am big and brave:D
George is a ticking time bomb. IMO the fear
in Caseys voice on the 911 call is not for herself but because she knows how violent her father is. I wonder if any of the Anthonys were ever on the receiving end of Georges temper????. Between her mom's need to control and her dad's explosiveness, Casey may have learned to bury (not show) her emotions and create a fantasy world so that she could pretend she had a "normal" life. JMO of course.
P.S. This does not in any way excuse what she did......IMO
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:44 PM
How did the Anthonys raise Casey and Lee? DO tell us ALL ABOUT IT. Exactly, in minute detail. Lets hear it. Tell us every single thing about G&C's child rearing philosophy.
Those protesters are taking their children to a situation that is volatile and has resulted in violence and serious threats before. That is the physical and psychological danger the children are in. They are also taking them into an atmosphere of extreme hatred. That is emotional danger. In addition to that, instead of focusing on their children and going on with their lives, they are dragging their children into a story that is sick and evil, and may well be very frightening to the children. More abuse there, and they are probably doing it because they can't afford to hire a babysitter, becasue only the most drug addled, alcoholic, violent loser of a parent would think that standing outside the ANthony home all day and night, vandalizing their property, making physical threats against them and assaulting them IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN is a proper atmosphere for a child. I do understand that you disagree.
Why did you bother asking FLMom the question when you answered it quite nicely yourself. Yup, I'd say that aptly describes the Anthony household, IMO.:D
Shellberry
09-18-2008, 06:44 PM
Yup, a bat. Cindy seems to be amping up her weapons of choice. What's next?
They had a choice, common sense and the police told her to stay in the house. Unless the protesters were trying to get in the house she had no reason to pick up the bat let alone go outside. NONE.
are you kidding? what would you do?
NOT in this situation--but in any situation that someone came on to your property, threw crap, banged on doors, etc.
what would you do?
you cant say-most of us would never be in this particular situation, but if say some punk kid vandals were out trashing houses in the neighborhood and they picked yours--what would you do?
you bet your duppa I'd be out there, I am in no way a violent person, I usually stay out of the confrontations on this board. or any board I belong to.
the anthonys did nothing wrong-if the cops were called half hour before for whatever, they didnt show, someone comes to the door, sometimes you feel you need to take things into your own hands.
geo/cindy could have smacked that punk kid upside the head-BUT THEY DIDNT-that boy grabbed george first.
and he or cindy didnt touch him.
regardless of what 'weapon' they had--they didnt go after them.
I think with the emotions in this case running wild, I sure as hell would have given that man a back hander if I was close enough to him.
just because of his wise mouth.
if I were a neighbor dealing with all of this, I'd have my hose out, and I'd do whatever I could to make the crap stop
they were there for a purpose, to get the anthonys riled up.
I hope their 'showing' them by tossing rocks or whatever, makes them pay a price. (money wise)
imo/jmo
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:44 PM
Seems to be they raised Casey to be a great liar and thief IMO. I find it very hard to believe that a persons 22 year old daughter could live with them...and have no job, no income and yet fool their parents. Cindy had to of wondered where Caseys money went when she was running up her credit card...AND while Casey was SLEEPING at Tonys house Cindy and George kept Caylee...instead of saying hey look you need to grow up and be a mother. All my opinion.
Seems to, maybe, could have been.....you seem to have a problem with the concept of personal responsiblity as it applies to this case. The Anthonys are NOT responsible for what Casey did. Casey is. The Anthonys are not responsible for the behavior of the protesters. The protesters are. I imagine that Cindy and George were hoping that Casey would grow up. They were considering taking custody of Caylee and Cindy was looking for her desperately. Stop blaming them and justifying the criminal behvior of the protesters as if the Anthonys "deserve" it because of what you perceive. They are the victims after Caylee.
msgatorslayer
09-18-2008, 06:44 PM
Hi all. Just getting in and see we have past 1,000 posts. I started a new thread for us. Please grab your snacks, drinks, and links...CYA there.
day2day
09-18-2008, 06:45 PM
He is a winner.
Eyewitness News also learned that Baez was almost an hour late for the sentencing of his client, Nilton Diaz, in a Lake County child abuse death the day Anthony was released the first time. That same day, Baez shoved a reporter. He also kept the Lake County judge, the victim's family and witnesses waiting. When he arrived, he made no apology.
Loser. In more ways than one...jmo
Rayosunshine
09-18-2008, 06:45 PM
Oh my, Jose seemed mightily ticked off, IMO. See the way he just tossed opened Casey's door and walked about five feet in front of her. I'm sure there was some angry discussions going on today. JMO.
Think Jose is getting tired of babysitting?
Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
marshmallow
09-18-2008, 06:45 PM
The LE Commander has said that the "protesters" are at fault. What else do you need?
of course they were, that's a given.
I think people are curious why the Anthonys came out, yet again, to confront the crowd. I can't think of any reason either. They were better off waiting inside for the authorities.
I hope all press and protesters and supporters are moved away from the house. I think the aNthonys would be much better off without any news cameras and photographers.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:45 PM
You haven't a clue as to the Grandparents disposing of evidence or covering up a crime - you're assuming they did based rumor, but on nothing that LE has indicated to be unlawful.
As for "letting Casey get away with manslaughter" - so you think that as long as Casey is in the Anthony's home, LE can't what, visit her to arrest her for manslaughter, find her to arrest her for manslaughter ?
"letting Casey get away with manslaughter" is good for ramping up hate, but not much else in the line of reality or truth.
Asked before, never answered - what is your opinion of what happened to Caylee?
not.another
09-18-2008, 06:45 PM
He also looked totally impotent holding that hose in his hand with the weak stream of water directed at the laughing protestors. IMO.
See, I saw it differently. I guess it was better than grabbing the bat out of Cindy's hands. If they just had better water pressure, or a nozzle on the end of the hose.
anyonesguess
09-18-2008, 06:46 PM
OOOPS. He doesn't look like a happy camper does he? Maybe he's tired of hanging out all day with Casey while she plays on the internet?
Maybe this is why he isn't happy?
CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST
It appears Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, botched his legal request to force detectives to stop testing evidence in the case.
Baez filed a motion with the Clerk of Court a week ago, asking for a halt to the lab testing being done by investigators to give him a chance to weigh in on how and where it's done. Baez claimed investigators might be more concerned with cost and expediency than they are about accuracy and fairness.
The legal merits of his motion have yet to be decided, because Baez blundered by not notifying the judge assigned to the case about his motion. Nor has he asked the judge for a hearing. So his motion sits in the clerk's office on the second floor of the courthouse going nowhere.
Anthony's trial for child neglect and lying to investigators is scheduled for November 17. Eyewitness News asked Baez's public relations firm whether he plans to ask for a hearing, but the firm has not returned the call.
Eyewitness News also learned that Baez was almost an hour late for the sentencing of his client, Nilton Diaz, in a Lake County child abuse death the day Anthony was released the first time. That same day, Baez shoved a reporter. He also kept the Lake County judge, the victim's family and witnesses waiting. When he arrived, he made no apology.
Baez also requested a special hearing the day before that, asking for a delay in Diaz's sentencing, telling the judge he expected the media to follow him to Lake County after Anthony's release and that it would be prejudicial to Anthony.
Lake County Circuit Judge Mark Nacke denied Baez's request for that delay. Baez ended up taking Casey back to her house the day she was released from jail before he headed to Lake County. No reporters followed him to Lake County that day.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 06:46 PM
I don't believe anyone here has forgotten Caylee. I think what you are seeing is a debate over the ensuing actions of the major players since Caylee was FINALLY AFTER 31 DAYS reported missing. There is very little we, as message board posters, can actively do to find Caylee unless we participate in searches. Our contributions to the memory of Caylee and justice for Caylee is to keep information out there and current. To raise issues and debate the importance of them, to slueth, if you will, what information is out there. I often wonder what folks mean when they say, We forgot why we are here. I just don't see it that way. How would you propose we attend to this board? We light candles for Caylee on a regular basis, we remind ourselves that it's been 94 days since she's been seen and we strive to push forward to hope and pray to find Caylee. Not everyone is going to agree about the extraneous actions of those involved in this case and it's going to get heated, ergo - adult debate. I guess you have me confused as to why you think anyone on this board has lost sight of Caylee. TIA for answer. JMHO.
I guess I'm just ignorant. This is why we have problems in our judicial system. So busy looking for loopholes or technicalities or worrying about stepping on the legal rights that we forget the reason we are debating in the first place, the victim.
It is a sad commentary that more often than not the victim takes a backseat.
I can understand a heated, intelligent discussion but some of this is just childish. It seems like it is becoming a pizzing contest on who is smarter.
I don't care how smart you(not you personally) are I want Caylee, or her remains, cared for.
wadr
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:46 PM
nope, didn't help a bit.
Gee, I am crushed. Please don't come to my house and vandalize it....
day2day
09-18-2008, 06:46 PM
Seems to, maybe, could have been.....you seem to have a problem with the concept of personal responsiblity as it applies to this case. The Anthonys are NOT responsible for what Casey did. Casey is. The Anthonys are not responsible for the behavior of the protesters. The protesters are. I imagine that Cindy and George were hoping that Casey would grow up. They were considering taking custody of Caylee and Cindy was looking for her desperately. Stop blaming them and justifying the criminal behvior of the protesters as if the Anthonys "deserve" it because of what you perceive. They are the victims after Caylee.
In my book -they are NOT victims. They have helped create this circus.
They could be doin what most grandparents actually DO when their loved ones go missin.
They take the money that is donated to them and they ACTUALLY leave the house and search.
just a thought and just my opinion.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:47 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html (http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html)
It appears Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, botched his legal request to force detectives to stop testing evidence in the case.
Baez filed a motion with the Clerk of Court a week ago, asking for a halt to the lab testing being done by investigators to give him a chance to weigh in on how and where it's done. Baez claimed investigators might be more concerned with cost and expediency than they are about accuracy and fairness.
The legal merits of his motion have yet to be decided, because Baez blundered by not notifying the judge assigned to the case about his motion. Nor has he asked the judge for a hearing. So his motion sits in the clerk's office on the second floor of the courthouse going nowhere.
Anthony's trial for child neglect and lying to investigators is scheduled for November 17. Eyewitness News asked Baez's public relations firm whether he plans to ask for a hearing, but the firm has not returned the call.
Eyewitness News also learned that Baez was almost an hour late for the sentencing of his client, Nilton Diaz, in a Lake County child abuse death the day Anthony was released the first time. That same day, Baez shoved a reporter. He also kept the Lake County judge, the victim's family and witnesses waiting. When he arrived, he made no apology.
Baez also requested a special hearing the day before that, asking for a delay in Diaz's sentencing, telling the judge he expected the media to follow him to Lake County after Anthony's release and that it would be prejudicial to Anthony.
Lake County Circuit Judge Mark Nacke denied Baez's request for that delay. Baez ended up taking Casey back to her house the day she was released from jail before he headed to Lake County. No reporters followed him to Lake County that day.
Taxi cab driver is looking better and better all the time:D
Joan Weiss
09-18-2008, 06:47 PM
[QUOTE=Boxer;12142917]
Maybe last night's protester could look into renting it:DHow do you know they'd qualify?
LordMisRule
09-18-2008, 06:47 PM
I think that's pretty obvious to anyone with common sense. They continue to not follow LE's instructions to stay inside and go out to either lay hands on people who are OFF of their property or yell expletives back in trade at people standing outside yelling at them. Anyone who is truly upset legitimately would follow LE's instructions and stay inside after calling for help and wait until they get there rather than going out and engaging them in front of cameras. I just wonder how much of this on either side would happen if the media wasn't there. MOO I also am not convinced that jail time is the normal punishment for throwing pennies against a garage door or pounding on said door even if it involves trespassing. I don't know for sure what the normal sentence is for those things, but I haven't seen anyone else who is against the protesters give a link to the normal outcome in those circumstances either. JMHO
Exactly! Stay inside and be safe. Why go out and confront people who you don't know, and you don't know what they are capable of? Why not get friends to hammer in those "No Trespassing" signs? Did anybody ever fill the Anthony's open position of personal assistant? Why not have that person do the lawn work and monitor the signs? I wonder if the grandparents are at each other's throats, and then it inevitably spills outside to the protestors.
dixie77
09-18-2008, 06:47 PM
Think Jose is getting tired of babysitting?
Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
========
For sure, Isabelle
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 06:48 PM
Exactly. And of course my statement was not a slam agaisnt everyone on pa, only the ones who are out there protesting instead of raising their children. I do understand that some think that that is an acceptable activity for us to have to pay for.
I want to know how you can look at someone and determine that they have children and they're on public assistance?
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:48 PM
And you know said protesters are on public assistance how?
You don't. Period. End of story.
You're right. Its an assumption. Its an opinion. One thing is clear, they are criminals because they are engaging in criminal behavior. And that is a fact.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:48 PM
Dadgummit Say!....I now have soda all over my monitor....:lol:
You should know by now that it's not safe to have food or fluid around you PC when posting with this bunch. :biggrin:
luvinlife
09-18-2008, 06:49 PM
didn't work for me.
but i spose everyone believes ..moms who murder their beautiful littleones should be home on myspace..and alllllllllllll the protesters in jail.
pfft...
jmo
Why is it that when people don't support the protestors rights that it automatically means that they support Casey. The two have nothing to do with each other. The protestors that are being discussed have behaved badly. I don't see anyone defending Casey at all.
Heyes
09-18-2008, 06:49 PM
Yes and they are not acting responsibly. Casey's murder of Caylee doesnt mean they're doing right. In fact, their very judgement of the Anthonys in the face of their own criminal behavior makes them hypocrits of the first order and they"'re just looking for some excitement and a fight at the expense of Caylee. If the kids witness someone being killed, well thats a small price to pay for such self righteousness and personal gratification for violence.
Meanwhile there's a baby missing, a family stonewalling and a baby killer sleeping nicely in her own bed with central air.
Focus. It's not the protestors that are the problem. not by a long shot.
The anthonys brought this on by running outside every night confronting these people. There was only one way for this to go....
And they knew it.
imo
tiny paw-prints
09-18-2008, 06:49 PM
Hi all. Just getting in and see we have past 1,000 posts. I started a new thread for us. Please grab your snacks, drinks, and links...CYA there.
THANK YOU! :hat:
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:50 PM
In my book -they are NOT victims. They have helped create this circus.
They could be doin what most grandparents actually DO when their loved ones go missin.
They take the money that is donated to them and they ACTUALLY leave the house and search.
just a thought and just my opinion.
leave the house....according to most posters here, they need to stay inside and have no right to go outside.
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 06:50 PM
I am too Regina! I can't wait till he finally realizes he is so out of his league and wipes that constant " i know something you don't know" smirk off his face.... IMO.
He fancies himself the East Coast geragos.......lol.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:50 PM
I thought houses in Fla are supposed to be able to withstand hurricanes?
Have you ever seen the force with which a nickle can be tossed?
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:51 PM
All of the pretend protesters there last night were children - they were just dressed in overgrown bodies.
That's the truth.
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:51 PM
Seems to, maybe, could have been.....you seem to have a problem with the concept of personal responsiblity as it applies to this case. The Anthonys are NOT responsible for what Casey did. Casey is. The Anthonys are not responsible for the behavior of the protesters. The protesters are. I imagine that Cindy and George were hoping that Casey would grow up. They were considering taking custody of Caylee and Cindy was looking for her desperately. Stop blaming them and justifying the criminal behvior of the protesters as if the Anthonys "deserve" it because of what you perceive. They are the victims after Caylee.
The protesters are NOT responsible for the actions of George and Cindy Anthony either per your theory on personal responsibility. Cindy didn't look for Caylee desperately or any other way for 31 days
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 06:51 PM
Meanwhile there's a baby missing, a family stonewalling and a baby killer sleeping nicely in her own bed with central air.
Focus. It's not the protestors that are the problem. not by a long shot.
The anthonys brought this on by running outside every night confronting these people. There was only one way for this to go....
And they knew it.
imo
ita..........
Unperson1984
09-18-2008, 06:52 PM
What do you think these guys will get for throwing pennies at the house?
I would imagine with Casey's reputation, GA probably has seen alot of pebbles thrown at their house by guys. Come out Casey and let's party!
I don't believe that they should have been out there doing that but they sure made a situation alot worst by going outside. jmo
The Anthony's have a legal right to be on their own property at any time of the day or night, the "protesters" do not.
Last night I saw assault, battery, trespassing, vandalism, disturbing the peace and malicious mischief being committed by these "protesters."
day2day
09-18-2008, 06:53 PM
Why is it that when people don't support the protestors rights that it automatically means that they support Casey. The two have nothing to do with each other. The protestors that are being discussed have behaved badly. I don't see anyone defending Casey at all.
Oh i agree they have. And so have the Anthony's. They were told to stay inside, yet they ran right out there. They could have avoided all of this if they had.
jmo
msjoni
09-18-2008, 06:53 PM
Think Jose is getting tired of babysitting?
Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
I think Mrs. Baez is tired of Jose babysitting Casey.....
msgatorslayer
09-18-2008, 06:53 PM
NEW THREAD
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=340641
Grab your stuff and join.
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:54 PM
The first amendment states we are allowed to protest. How is that illegal acitivites?
See, again with blanket statements.
Your right to protest can be limited, such as requiring a permit to do so. See how it works? Also, criminal activity is not a form of legal protest or free speech....its....well...criminal activity. See how that works? Also, your right to protest can be limited by the rights of others to enjoy their property. You know, the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS? Its called the constitution.....
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:54 PM
09-18-2008, 04:47 PM
Joan Weiss
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[quote=mosey2;12142949]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxer
Maybe last night's protester could look into renting it
How do you know they'd qualify?
__________________
Just smile and nod...
I did not say that. Go back up thread...it's the quote thing.
anyonesguess
09-18-2008, 06:54 PM
You're right. Its an assumption. Its an opinion. One thing is clear, they are criminals because they are engaging in criminal behavior. And that is a fact.
Just as George Anthony was last week when he laid hands on 2 people on public property.
Just like Casey for not reporting her daughter missing over 90+ days now, and forging checks.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:54 PM
the public was warned about having children there while protesting by the dcs
I hope something comes of this.
imo/jmo
Were there children there last night? I don't recall seeing any kids. JMO.
jakee
09-18-2008, 06:55 PM
In my book -they are NOT victims. They have helped create this circus.
They could be doin what most grandparents actually DO when their loved ones go missin.
They take the money that is donated to them and they ACTUALLY leave the house and search.
just a thought and just my opinion.
I also think if they would have taken LD tests many people may have different opinions of them. Clear themselves of any wrongdoing...disposing of Caylee, covering up Casey's crime. IMO that may ease most of the public's outrage and hatred for them. Not sure, but that is just my opinion.
I wish they had some friends to help them. Well, I haven't seen any people at their home supporting them. IMO
Nellie
09-18-2008, 06:55 PM
Have you ever seen the force with which a nickle can be tossed?
Maybe they aren't protestors at all! Maybe they are donators...donating to Caysey's defense fun! :D
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 06:55 PM
"I think it's starting to work. He said for himself it's breaking his family apart. So hopefully it breaks them all down," protester Miriah Bounds told Eyewitness News.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html
Why isn't this girl in jail? There's her name, Cindy has the tag number of the vehicle......
And this little gem:
At this point, Wonsetler (the HOA attorney) said only a judge's injunction to move the protesters to an empty lot nearby will return a sense of security to the neighborhood.
Moving them to another location within the same neighborhood solves what?
Setup.
Joan Weiss
09-18-2008, 06:56 PM
are you kidding? what would you do?
NOT in this situation--but in any situation that someone came on to your property, threw crap, banged on doors, etc.
what would you do?
you cant say-most of us would never be in this particular situation, but if say some punk kid vandals were out trashing houses in the neighborhood and they picked yours--what would you do?
you bet your duppa I'd be out there, I am in no way a violent person, I usually stay out of the confrontations on this board. or any board I belong to.
the anthonys did nothing wrong-if the cops were called half hour before for whatever, they didnt show, someone comes to the door, sometimes you feel you need to take things into your own hands.
geo/cindy could have smacked that punk kid upside the head-BUT THEY DIDNT-that boy grabbed george first.
and he or cindy didnt touch him.
regardless of what 'weapon' they had--they didnt go after them.
I think with the emotions in this case running wild, I sure as hell would have given that man a back hander if I was close enough to him.
just because of his wise mouth.
if I were a neighbor dealing with all of this, I'd have my hose out, and I'd do whatever I could to make the crap stop
they were there for a purpose, to get the anthonys riled up.
I hope their 'showing' them by tossing rocks or whatever, makes them pay a price. (money wise)
imo/jmoCarrying a baseball bat does not make them look good. The mere presence of that bat suggests they were going to hurt someone. I'm glad George didn't have his gun. As far as I know, deputies were stationed there. No need to carry that bat. imo
SavannahStar
09-18-2008, 06:56 PM
She didn't mention rednecks or fat people............yet. hammer
hey leave me out of this
:lol:...............
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:56 PM
The protesters are NOT responsible for the actions of George and Cindy Anthony either per your theory on personal responsibility. Cindy didn't look for Caylee desperately or any other way for 31 days
Can you please show me where I said the protesters were responsible for the actions of G&C? Why is it that Casey's crime suddenly causes you to be able to toss out the criminal code and behave as you wish and vandalize and attack others?
luvinlife
09-18-2008, 06:56 PM
Oh i agree they have. And so have the Anthony's. They were told to stay inside, yet they ran right out there. They could have avoided all of this if they had.
jmo
While I will agree that they shouldn't have come out of their house while the protestors where there, I have to say I am not sure I wouldn't have out of complete frustration and I am not going through anything like the Anthony's are.
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 06:57 PM
Were there children there last night? I don't recall seeing any kids. JMO.
No, and you didn't see any flashlights either.
Except the ones the police were using to look for the donations....er, thrown coins.
day2day
09-18-2008, 06:58 PM
I also think if they would have taken LD tests many people may have different opinions of them. Clear themselves of any wrongdoing...disposing of Caylee, covering up Casey's crime. IMO that may ease most of the public's outrage and hatred for them. Not sure, but that is just my opinion.
I wish they had some friends to help them. Well, I haven't seen any people at their home supporting them. IMO
I agree Jakee. I think there is so much they could have done to make themselves look..um human. I would list them but then i would be here for hours.
I pray every night that I can get some compassion for these people...sadly, it hasn't happened yet. But they say it is all in God's time.
jmo
Joan Weiss
09-18-2008, 06:58 PM
Meanwhile there's a baby missing, a family stonewalling and a baby killer sleeping nicely in her own bed with central air.
Focus. It's not the protestors that are the problem. not by a long shot.
The anthonys brought this on by running outside every night confronting these people. There was only one way for this to go....
And they knew it.
imo
My vote for post of the day. :seeya:ITA! :beer:
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:58 PM
Just as George Anthony was last week when he laid hands on 2 people on public property.
Just like Casey for not reporting her daughter missing over 90+ days now, and forging checks.
So what? IS anyone disputing that? No. No one.
trich
09-18-2008, 06:58 PM
leave the house....according to most posters here, they need to stay inside and have no right to go outside.
That is not so......most people here think the Anthony's should stay in their house when the protestors are there.Nobody said anything about them never leaving their house.
There is a big difference.
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:59 PM
I dont consider pulling a shirt assault..but lets go with it for drama sake..if the Anthonys had done the smart thing and called 911 and stayed inside no shirt would have gotten pulled.
Futhermore how can George complain that a MALE pulled his shirt when he PUSHED a female...unreal.
Assault isnt just hitting another person.
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:59 PM
That is not so......most people here think the Anthony's should stay in their house when the protestors are there.Nobody said anything about them never leaving their house.
There is a big difference.
Ok. Since casey got out of jail, when are the protesters not there?
Joan Weiss
09-18-2008, 07:00 PM
Your right to protest can be limited, such as requiring a permit to do so. See how it works? Also, criminal activity is not a form of legal protest or free speech....its....well...criminal activity. See how that works? Also, your right to protest can be limited by the rights of others to enjoy their property. You know, the right to life, liberty and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS? Its called the constitution.....The criminal activity seems to be on George and Cindy's side. That's what I see in all these altercations. imo
Boxer
09-18-2008, 07:02 PM
Can you please show me where I said the protesters were responsible for the actions of G&C? Why is it that Casey's crime suddenly causes you to be able to toss out the criminal code and behave as you wish and vandalize and attack others?
pages 20-23
Joan Weiss
09-18-2008, 07:03 PM
leave the house....according to most posters here, they need to stay inside and have no right to go outside.Of course they do have a right, and so do the protesters.
I have a right to go wherever I want too, at any hour of the day or night, but I choose not to go out at 2 AM in a bad neighborhood.
I call that "common sense." If I get killed, it doesn't matter who was right, does it? :rolleyes: imo
st777jo
09-18-2008, 07:03 PM
:flamemad: nickels are heavy, dude...
and its a lightweight bat, lol
Joan Weiss
09-18-2008, 07:04 PM
Ok. Since casey got out of jail, when are the protesters not there?What does that tell you? Need a hint?
Unperson1984
09-18-2008, 07:06 PM
I dont consider pulling a shirt assault..but lets go with it for drama sake..if the Anthonys had done the smart thing and called 911 and stayed inside no shirt would have gotten pulled.
Futhermore how can George complain that a MALE pulled his shirt when he PUSHED a female...unreal.
And if the female files charges against George he should be held accountable, but that in no way negates last night's actions by the "protesters."
Shellberry
09-18-2008, 07:06 PM
Were there children there last night? I don't recall seeing any kids. JMO.
the girl with the pink shirt and blonde hair looked to be under 18-imo
Carrying a baseball bat does not make them look good. The mere presence of that bat suggests they were going to hurt someone. I'm glad George didn't have his gun. As far as I know, deputies were stationed there. No need to carry that bat. imo
seriously, if that were going on at your house-(not in THIS particular situation, but some punk vandals...) someone throwing crap, looking in your window, knocking on the door..
what would you do?
sit inside?
I sure as heck wouldnt-especially if I had already called the police and they didnt respond.
sometimes people take matters into their own hands.
when you are pushed beyond a breaking point-that is what happens.
cindy had a bat-but she didnt 'use' it.
even as george was being pulled out into the street by the punk a$$ kid.
that-says a little bit good for them.
IMO
imo/jmo/etc
tiny paw-prints
09-18-2008, 07:06 PM
PLEASE CONTINUE DISCUSSION AT THE NEW EVENING THREAD!
See ya there! :seeya:
SavannahStar
09-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Seems to, maybe, could have been.....you seem to have a problem with the concept of personal responsiblity as it applies to this case. The Anthonys are NOT responsible for what Casey did. Casey is. The Anthonys are not responsible for the behavior of the protesters. The protesters are. I imagine that Cindy and George were hoping that Casey would grow up. They were considering taking custody of Caylee and Cindy was looking for her desperately. Stop blaming them and justifying the criminal behvior of the protesters as if the Anthonys "deserve" it because of what you perceive. They are the victims after Caylee.
That IS Post of the Day for me!!!!!!!!! :beer:
(Bolding by me.)
st777jo
09-18-2008, 07:07 PM
There are a few protesters that carry an angel cutout with Angel Killer on it.
I would like to see all protesters, YO protesters, listen up, carry one of those angels and keep your mouths shut and walk peacefully past the A's house.
thank you
jmo
jo
anyonesguess
09-18-2008, 07:08 PM
So what? IS anyone disputing that? No. No one.
What is your main malfunction? I am not sure what your problem is on this board, but I can assure you I will not let you make it mine.
Your posts remind me of the protestors that are peaceful, and the ones that are not. I am on the peaceful side. You are not imo. You don't want to discuss, you just want to fight. hammer Kinda like GA and his firecracker mentality. Well go fight with yourself. I am hear to discuss with others this case. :punch:
Katprint
09-18-2008, 07:09 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html
FBI agents and Orange County sheriff's detectives plan to extend the Casey Anthony investigation to California.
Does anybody know WHERE in California? I could have sworn I saw Leonard Padilla in Hollister last weekend, but then again lots of guys wear cowboy hats in the agricultural areas.
Also, which military bases are they talking about in that article?
Katprint
Who is pretty sure that Caylee isn't alive and well in California
Always only my own opinions
Unperson1984
09-18-2008, 07:10 PM
Of course they do have a right, and so do the protesters.
I have a right to go wherever I want too, at any hour of the day or night, but I choose not to go out at 2 AM in a bad neighborhood.
I call that "common sense." If I get killed, it doesn't matter who was right, does it? :rolleyes: imo
No, you don't the right to go wherever you want. You don't have the right to enter someones else's property, throw things at the windows or pound on their garage door. And neither did the "protesters" last night.
babblefishie
09-18-2008, 07:11 PM
Police swarm the house of Caylee "look-a-like" named Kaylee.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html
Seriously! Couldn't they have found a photo of this other child in which her face wasn't covered with snot and goo?
lolol :biggrin:
anyonesguess
09-18-2008, 07:12 PM
Police swarm the house of Caylee "look-a-like" named Kaylee.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html
Seriously! Couldn't they have found a photo of this other child in which her face wasn't covered with snot and goo?
lolol :biggrin:
Oh babble LMAO!!! :punch:
johnielee333
09-18-2008, 07:15 PM
Police swarm the house of Caylee "look-a-like" named Kaylee.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17507311/detail.html
Seriously! Couldn't they have found a photo of this other child in which her face wasn't covered with snot and goo?
lolol :biggrin:
that little girl doesnt really look like caylee to me.
st777jo
09-18-2008, 07:16 PM
But the Tuppers said they're most frustrated by the Anthonys' accusations that authorities aren't looking for Caylee. She says their experience proves otherwise.
I'll bet the A's don't like the fact that LE are still doing their job. oh well.
Great job, LE
OneUp
09-18-2008, 07:17 PM
but if they had called the police half an hour before and they didnt come...what would you do?
again, what would you do?
not being in this particular missing girl case--but in general if someone was doing that to you?
I am in FL-I posted the brochure of what is allowed by protesters in FL-in the protester thread.
Im getting an itch to actually call the building where my local town cops are stationed.
my neighbors across the street were in a semi screaming match last night-2 police cars came down the street and parked (they have issues-and police have been called there to the house before)
exactly, whoever doesnt want to scroll through the threads and see/read everyones opinion-can go straight to the links thread.
sorry everyone-not trying to be nasty or anything today.
I think we are all at a point where something needs to break in this case.
imo/jmoShell, not picking on you in particular, but is there any PROOF that the police took 30 minutes to respond to the 911 call? I know no one here is thick enough to take Casey Anthony's word for ANYTHING.
I keep reading how some feel the response took too long as the police didn't get there until it was over, but it didn't seem to go on that long to me.
Does anyone know the actual taped length of the entire episode? I know we have no proof to compare the call to response time to the initial report from the police, but when Casey first calls it seems CiA and GA are just going outside ( she says her father is going outside and there is going to be a fight), and by the end of the call, Casey says they are gone. Couldn't be all that long could it?
JMO. I guess I'll have to time and compare it all to get it straight myself.
As for the statement about it taking 30 min. the call before, I would suppose that LE didn't rush as it was just a nuisance complaint, and no one's safety was threatened at THAT time. Property, yes, but safety, no. They HAVE been called over and over and it gets to be just the same old, same old after the umpteenth time. When they are informed that safety is an issue, they seem to arrive in about 15 minutes or less, every time.
JMO.
I have total respect for LE. Thank God they are there should I need them!
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