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aubrey04
09-18-2008, 05:22 PM
Inside you can..but you cant just go smacking people with bats when you have the option of staying inside and calling 911....Curious George and Windy Cindy seem to want to confront the protesters.
Thanks Flmom! I knew someone would set me straight!
Boxer
09-18-2008, 05:23 PM
I hope they do restrict the protesters. It will allow the pretend protester announcer to have a break....
If they put them in the lot, even better. It would take less than 48 hours for George and Cindy to be at the vacant lot causing trouble. Is there a water spigot there?
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:23 PM
Yes, I too believe that her insistence on not knowing where Caylee is might be partially true.
If GA did dispose of Caylee's body, I would like to at least believe that - as her grandfather - he did not, COULD not, just throw her into a dumpster or a swamp. He would have had to try to give her a "decent" (in his mind) burial, right? Which means, hopefully, her body will be found eventually. But, with his LE experience, I'm sure her little body is very well hidden wherever it is. :(
I listened to Cindy when she called the cops. I have watched GA. I have no doubt that they had abolutely nothing to do with the death or disposal of poor little Caylee, and le does not consider them to be of interest. These people have had a nuclear bomb dropped in their lives. They adored Caylee. All you have to do is look around that house and see how much they loved her. Their whole existence was Caylee, and Casey was probably pathologically jealous of that. They're struggling and need compassion and prayer. I know a lot of people think Cindy is obnoxious, but she still needs compassion and prayer. After listening to the interrogation tapes, I've changed my mind from thinking that it might have been an accident to thinking that Casey murdered Caylee and is engaging in this fiasco to punish her parents, most of all her mother. There's just something in her voice....its just creepy. I reminds me of the creepiness of listening to someone like Bundy or Kuklinski. Their voices had a creepy strange quality. So does Caseys. It has to be pretty tough to come to terms with the thought that your daughter murdered your granddaughter to get even with you.
CinTN
09-18-2008, 05:24 PM
Looks like the police station OR......a donut shop :biggrin:
:lol: u'z phunnie :lol:
desmom
09-18-2008, 05:24 PM
Cindy called 911 first. Then Casey made two 911 calls.
As a matter of fact, some kept posting this morning, "they should just stay inside. Call LE!" Well......Cindy did call 911 BEFORE anyone went outside. She asked that LE come to the house; she was afraid George was going outside..she was trying to stop him.
One would think with George's former LE experience and present security training, he would know going outside would only fuel the flames. jmo
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 05:25 PM
One would think with George's former LE experience and present security training, he would know going outside would only fuel the flames. jmo
Key word being "former"
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 05:26 PM
911 should have asked her "How did you find our number?"
:lol::lol:
Albini
09-18-2008, 05:26 PM
Orange County Cmdr. Rick Luckey strongly disagrees with you -
"Luckey said the protesters could have charges filed against them because they were the primary aggressors.
"[George Anthony] has the right to protect himself and his property," Luckey said. "He doesn't know what the protesters' intentions are or what they are trying to do."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story?page=2
He disagrees with me saying that the Anthonys were not keeping the peace by confronting the protesters?
I never said a thing about them protecting themselves or anything else that was posted. I said that they didnt keep the peace themselves by getting into the fray.
I highly doubt anyone would strongly disagree with that logic.
greylover
09-18-2008, 05:27 PM
she was applying herself and came across zanny's info. IMO. she had just left her parent's house, already knew someone in the development and went into the office. Probably picked up the info in the office when no one was present. Not sure why she used the "fernandez" part though.
But....am I remembering correctly that Casey had already been using that name (ZFG) w/GA and CA for 2 years?
I could be recalling incorrectly.
jmo
day2day
09-18-2008, 05:27 PM
I hope they do restrict the protesters. It will allow the pretend protester announcer to have a break....
If they put them in the lot, even better. It would take less than 48 hours for George and Cindy to be at the vacant lot causing trouble. Is there a water spigot there?
pretend protesters
sorta like..
caring grandparents..
loving mother...
:cuss:
jmo
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:27 PM
There was absolutely no need for Cindy & George to confront the people outside their home.
With a baseball bat at that.
As Casey herself states in the 911 call... it's all being taped by their own home security camera.
And the media.
Cindy & George went out looking for a fight. And they almost got one.
IMO
So how long do you think it will be before the protesters break into their home? Attack them when they are going to their cars, etc? Why shouldnt' these people go outside their homes? I promise oyu that if you did that to my house, I would go outside and confront you. Who put hands on first? George? No. The protesters are getting out of control and the Anthonys have every right to enjoy their home and yard, and not be attacked by common criminals.
We live in a country that gives rights to the accused. The Anthonys are not even accused of anything. What is wrong with people? Are all people in Florida like that?
hamebone
09-18-2008, 05:28 PM
If someone breaks into your home and you do what you have to do to protect yourself, your family and your belongings that is permitted in the eyes of the law.
But if you attack someone who is on your property it is not ok in the eyes of the law.
Scerniao:
If you shoot someone who has broken into your house and that person is inside your house uninvited you have right to do so.
but if they are outside your house and you shoot them because you think they are going to enter your house it is not ok.
I believe I am correct on this.
we had a case few years back in my home state...a drunk ran into a ditch out in the country...wabbled up to a home beating on the door screaming, cussing and the home owner shot him through the door and killed him...LE look into it..but the shooter wasnt charged.
desmom
09-18-2008, 05:28 PM
Huh? What's your point? That's no reason to be out there with a baseball bat and hosing them down. Weren't they safer inside the home with doors and windows locked? As far as I know, there were no windows or doors broken down. There was no immediate danger until the Anthonys came out to confront them.
The Anthonys must have naps in the afternoon when Casey is with her lawyer so must not be tired at 1:30 am. They seem to enjoy the late night/early morning drama.
Exactly! They called LE and they have security cameras. They should have stayed inside. Let LE deal with the idiots on the street. jmo
steffaroob4
09-18-2008, 05:28 PM
Listening to audio from 911
They redacted the home address and her name, from the sound of it.
joint-heir
09-18-2008, 05:28 PM
Trying to stay tuned for any breaking news, but this board has become so crass with very crude remarks and laughing at their same jokes over & over!! I sure would not want a youngster to be on the board. You could find a board and call it Crude, rude, & ridiculous, over & over & over. It's a shame for this discussion and news board to be taken over for that...JMO
kakax
09-18-2008, 05:28 PM
4:08 p.m. The lead detective investigating the Caylee Anthony case was hospitalized overnight after breaking his leg.
Detective Yuri Melich, the investigator who told a judge in July that he believed Caylee Anthony was likely dead and her mother was the person of interest, was released this morning.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story
farrahrani
09-18-2008, 05:29 PM
To be honest.. I think that those people last night were just there looking for a fight. They thought they could start trouble and get away with it under the guise of "Protest". I believe they were probaably drunk. I do not condone that group, but I don't think that all protestors can be painted with the same brush.....
Most of the protestors have an actual cause... these peeps were looking for some action. (IMO)
Yeah ITA. I doubt they were drinking enough to impair their judgment, they were morons to begin with most likely, and bullies. All pumped up on adrenaline and eager to stay out past curfew and make a name for themselves.
Nobody ''protests'' in a small group in the middle of the night, apart from the rest of the actual protesters, and throws crap at houses.
Their statement was very telling about them 'breaking the Anthony's down' (paraphrased)
Unfortunately they are breaking the wrong people down. George and Cindy are the ones who have to deal with it, the property damage, the stress and their neighbors, while the ''person of interest'' is tucked away logging into Facebook, and picking out which short shorts to wear to the attorney's office, almost completely unaffected.
Boxer
09-18-2008, 05:30 PM
pretend protesters
sorta like..
caring grandparents..
loving mother...
:cuss:
jmo
now now, the pretend poster announcer does need a break, y'all....:D
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 05:30 PM
When they asked her if she as a protester or a resident, should she have answered, "I'm Casey"?
And that would have proved what? That she know her name but not whether she's a protester or a resident???? JMO.
CinTN
09-18-2008, 05:31 PM
One would think with George's former LE experience and present security training, he would know going outside would only fuel the flames. jmo
What ever gave you the idea that this family thinks... :shrug:
this whole fam damliy is a few beers shy of a 6 pack :beer:
Boxer
09-18-2008, 05:31 PM
Anyone with half a brain stem cell working would know if you felt 'threatened and in harms way' not to go running out into it but stay inside and call the police.
I think its silly that they want to pretend to be victims when they went outside willingly with a bat. GMAB.
well, I think you answered your own question Flmom..
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 05:31 PM
Here is another TRANSCRIPT of Casey's 911 call. This one is from ch. 13. It seems like it has everything but it says "inaudible" after the operator asks Casey for her name :shrug:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/18/ocsd_releases_casey_anthonys_911_protester_call.ht ml
SavannahStar
09-18-2008, 05:31 PM
So how long do you think it will be before the protesters break into their home? Attack them when they are going to their cars, etc? Why shouldnt' these people go outside their homes? I promise oyu that if you did that to my house, I would go outside and confront you. Who put hands on first? George? No. The protesters are getting out of control and the Anthonys have every right to enjoy their home and yard, and not be attacked by common criminals.
We live in a country that gives rights to the accused. The Anthonys are not even accused of anything. What is wrong with people? Are all people in Florida like that?
Good God, NO! A big resounding no. Though FL certainly has it's share, and more, of wackos. None of my friends/neighbors/relatives are like those protestors.....thank the Lord for that!!!!!!!!!
hamebone
09-18-2008, 05:31 PM
No, nothing from them, but let's remember that TES has also been credited with finding over 200 LIVE missing people, and Caylee being one in addition to that count would certainly shock those who just know ;) , that's she's deceased.
I think caylee is dead...and I would be shocked if she was found alive...but its a shock, I and most here on this board would be overjoyed about!
day2day
09-18-2008, 05:31 PM
4:08 p.m. The lead detective investigating the Caylee Anthony case was hospitalized overnight after breaking his leg.
Detective Yuri Melich, the investigator who told a judge in July that he believed Caylee Anthony was likely dead and her mother was the person of interest, was released this morning.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story
Thanks kakax...
Prayers for Det. Yuri..!!:rose:
farrahrani
09-18-2008, 05:32 PM
But....am I remembering correctly that Casey had already been using that name (ZFG) w/GA and CA for 2 years?
I could be recalling incorrectly.
jmo
That is what GA and CA said after the fact. Nobody really knows if this was true...Like rotting pizza...I take what they say with a grain boulder of salt.
solar
09-18-2008, 05:32 PM
The problem is that the people who are affected didn't kill Caylee.....casey did and she doesn't care about her family. She's not going to crack. I listened to her interrogation tapes on NG and she's not about to lose it. She's an iceberg. Nothing is being accomplished by these "protesters." If the current situation is allowed to continue, someone will be hurt or killed. In addition to that, why do these protesters have their children there? What on earth would possess them to take their little children to such a dangerous situation? And I can promise you, when one of the protesters goes too far, and they will, the cops will come down on them like the berlin wall. Don't these people have lives? They're no longer searching, from what I understand, so these people are leaving their homes to go vandalize, harrass and threaten and assault the Anthonys. Its ridiculous and it could rise to the level of a constitutional issue. The cops can't decide who they will and will not enforce the law for. Its unconstitutional for them to refuse to enforce the law to protect the rights of the Anthonys and their neighbors simply because Casey is a suspect.
ITA.
solar
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:32 PM
So, are you saying that it is George who can not follow instructions? I don't understand why he felt the need to GO outside. That is what everybody is talking about. This has been going on for sometime. Let LE do their job and come out to the house and take care of the protestors. If somebody gets hurt, it's because the A's should just stay inside when the protestors are rowdy. It doesn't make sense to wear red in front of a bull. It's called self preservation. :chicken:
Amazing. Lets all blame the victims, the protesters arent responsible for their actions, the Anthonys are. I can assure you that when a serious crime is committed by one of the protesters, no prosecutor is going to accept that.
tiny paw-prints
09-18-2008, 05:32 PM
I don't think they were every mentioned again...but this begs the question: If he was going there for something he needed, and they hadn't seen Casey since the 15th (or 16th if you believe George...I don't) , how was he sure he would be able to get them from Casey in order to do Cindy's tires that weekend(meaning, he already had plans to do the tires, but what he needed was in Casey's trunk and they hadn't seen or heard from her supposedly)? The whole 24th story is just weird, IMO.
I agree the 24th story is too weird. His immediate need for the little metal wedges suddenly morphed into his finding the 'stolen' gas cans--and then the vehicle was suddenly 'abandoned'.
SavannahStar
09-18-2008, 05:32 PM
Listening to audio from 911
They redacted the home address and her name, from the sound of it.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
day2day
09-18-2008, 05:33 PM
Trying to stay tuned for any breaking news, but this board has become so crass with very crude remarks and laughing at their same jokes over & over!! I sure would not want a youngster to be on the board. You could find a board and call it Crude, rude, & ridiculous, over & over & over. It's a shame for this discussion and news board to be taken over for that...JMO
Sorry you feel like that. This is an adult board. There is a link thread and breaking news stuff is posted there..:seeya:
dixie77
09-18-2008, 05:33 PM
?WudScoobyDo U seem to know a lot about a lot of things. Can i ask u a question, please? Is it ok to have more than one name at this board? Or is it against the rules? Thanks
bballgrl
09-18-2008, 05:33 PM
No, nothing from them, but let's remember that TES has also been credited with finding over 200 LIVE missing people, and Caylee being one in addition to that count would certainly shock those who just know ;) , that's she's deceased.
I think that we would all be happy to hear that... I don't think that anyone who "knows" that she is decesased would be upset with that turn of events. I don't think she is alive, but I would LOVE to be proven wrong! :rose:
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 05:33 PM
I think caylee is dead...and I would be shocked if she was found alive...but its a shock, I and most here on this board would be overjoyed about!
That is one shocking piece of information that I would LOVE to hear!
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 05:33 PM
The issue isn't what we think, its what the Anthony's are thinking during the disturbance.
Oh, OK. So the Anthonys think their castle may be stormed by the hording masses so they go out to face them with a Louiseville Slugger and garden hose to protect their home? That makes not one lick of sense, IMO. If you feel threatened you call the police and wait for them to come. Dang, I'm sure they have more "efficient" killer weapons inside the house, they have KC - Killer Casey!!! IMO.
barskin&co.
09-18-2008, 05:33 PM
And that would have proved what? That she know her name but not whether she's a protester or a resident???? JMO.
rose, she was never asked whether she was a protestor or a resident. The 911 operator knew that imformation. She was asked who she was, i.e. her name.
st777jo
09-18-2008, 05:34 PM
There was absolutely no need for Cindy & George to confront the people outside their home.
With a baseball bat at that.
As Casey herself states in the 911 call... it's all being taped by their own home security camera.
And the media.
Cindy & George went out looking for a fight. And they almost got one.
IMO
Exactly. How did they know if someone didn't have a gun, or a knife?
I think the A's are confronting them for the soul purpose of getting the
HOA or LE to stop the protesting so they don't upset that Caylee-less house.
Shellberry
09-18-2008, 05:35 PM
Do you really think that would have happened? I don't. I think these protesters have the Anthonys # and know exactly what buttons to push. If the A's would have called LE and stayed inside there would not have been a physical altercation. FGS. JMO.
people can only take so much-regardless of the situation.
When they asked her if she as a protester or a resident, should she have answered, "I'm Casey"?
I think she feels LE may have grudge againt her-I sure wouldnt want to call 911 saying Im casey anthony at this point.
I have corrected mypost in case you missed it. Casey stated that the police were called about an hour 1/2 earlier (by Cindy) and it took them 30 mins to get there. After those police left protestors started again , which was when Casey made her call.
I didnt see it, Im sorry, at this point today-I have to scroll through to see if anyone quoted me, lol
then I go back and re-read (backtrack) through the thread
Hmm a bar..a cop shop! Maybe they are doin a story from all of casey's ex-boyfriends homes...
i'm just sayin...
jmo
I dont know who they were, but I saw a bar scene.
I had that cam on for a while.
I go back and forth between the 2
IMO/JMO/etc
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 05:35 PM
NEW Casey 911 TRANSCRIPT....looks like the whole thing.......
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/18/ocsd_releases_casey_anthonys_911_protester_call.ht ml
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:36 PM
Are you aware there's a tiny girl missing, presumed dead and decomposing? Her last name is Anthony.
Respectfully, you should channel some of your outrage at the death of a baby, quite likely by her mother's hand.
Yes, I am aware of that. Can you tell me what the protesters have accomplished? They're a freak side show and a distraction. They're blood lusting voyeurs seeking looking for titillation. They're bullies looking for someone to harm. Perhaps you can explain what their behavior has accomplished. I'd be most interested in hearing that.
Respectfully, you should read the criminal code for Florida......if you respect the law at all. You may not be aware of it, but vigilantism is a crime. Respectfully speaking.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 05:37 PM
Thats not necessarily true. If their perception of danger is that of a reasonable person, under the same circumstances, would be the test to determine justified force.
Key - they are not reasonable people, IMO.
steffaroob4
09-18-2008, 05:37 PM
Absolutely.
Thank you.
NP, I like to get things right, after listening to it for a second time, I can admit that I was wrong about what I thought it said the first time. Now, the resident remark even makes sense. I do have to admit I had issues playing it to begin with, I had to use widows media player and it was a bit choppy. I downloaded some updates and restarted my computer and it was definately better quality this time.
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:37 PM
The protesters have a right to protest..if they go against the law then the Anthonys have the right to call the police..its simple..The Anthonys make it worse by confronting them.
That is irrelevant. The protesters broke the law by throwing things at the house and assaulting the Anthonys. That's the law and they belong in jail.
shelbar53
09-18-2008, 05:38 PM
was the video showing high profile defense attorney baez walking to the car in a huff and throwing the door open for casey already discussed?
Albini
09-18-2008, 05:38 PM
He surely does not agree with you.
But hey, he's only an Orange County Cmdr. who knows the rights of George Anthony in the state of Florida. lol
Wait, wait.
So by them confronting the protesters...they were "Keeping the Peace???""
Peace meaning non-confrontive or escalating action. They were NOT keeping the peace by yelling and screaming. KEeping the peace would have involved the exact opposite of what they did.
Sorry, I dont have to be anything more then what I am to know that that is bull.
I dont see the point in defending the Anthonys as victims when they themselves walked into the confrontation. They had the CHOICE to wait for LE to get the situation under control. They choose non-peaceful actions instead.
Therefore they were NOT keeping the peace.
steffaroob4
09-18-2008, 05:38 PM
Casey Anthony's Best Friend Speaks Out (http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4264657)
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 05:39 PM
I hope they do restrict the protesters. It will allow the pretend protester announcer to have a break....
If they put them in the lot, even better. It would take less than 48 hours for George and Cindy to be at the vacant lot causing trouble. Is there a water spigot there?
They'll probably just buy a longer hose.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 05:39 PM
There was absolutely no need for Cindy & George to confront the people outside their home.
With a baseball bat at that.
As Casey herself states in the 911 call... it's all being taped by their own home security camera.
And the media.
Cindy & George went out looking for a fight. And they almost got one.
IMO
Well, Big Daddy almost got beat up by a girl. IMO.
WingNIt
09-18-2008, 05:39 PM
IIRC, George said he needed the wedges because he had plans on rotating Cindy's tires on the upcoming "weekend". My question: Did George ever FIND or retrieve those wedges that he claimed he needed? Has it ever been mentioned that you're aware of? TIA
This has bothered me about the wedges since GA mentioned it. My husband works on our cars when needed and rotating tires is one of the things he does. The wedges are kept in the garage with the rest of the tools used on the cars, not IN any of our cars. It doesn't make sense to keep them in a car when there is more than one car that gets worked on. IMO I think he needed to come up with an excuse as to why he went in the trunk.
WillowInFlight
09-18-2008, 05:39 PM
was the video showing high profile defense attorney baez walking to the car in a huff and throwing the door open for casey already discussed?
It sure was a couple of times.
day2day
09-18-2008, 05:39 PM
That is irrelevant. The protesters broke the law by throwing things at the house and assaulting the Anthonys. That's the law and they belong in jail.
Obviously the Anthonys were looking for a fight. When you call LE and they suggest you STAY in your home..that doesn't mean pick up a freakin baseball bat and go after them....
jmo
dixielover
09-18-2008, 05:39 PM
I wonder how the "duty to retreat" law will play in this. I know if someone comes into your house, you can beat the tar out of them but I am wondering how this will work if the they were told not to go out into their yard. jmo
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 05:40 PM
was the video showing high profile defense attorney baez walking to the car in a huff and throwing the door open for casey already discussed?
Yes. I think the general feeling is that perhaps his defense strategy just went out the window with Casey now trusting LE enough to dial 911 when she is actually feeling fear.
aubrey04
09-18-2008, 05:40 PM
Here is another TRANSCRIPT of Casey's 911 call. This one is from ch. 13. It seems like it has everything but it says "inaudible" after the operator asks Casey for her name :shrug:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/18/ocsd_releases_casey_anthonys_911_protester_call.ht ml
because she doesn't answer when she's first asked. She mumbles and doesn't answer. But whatever, it's not worth arguing about.
My disgust with her isn't over that. It's over her urgency calling 911 when this silliness is going on, but she did not call 911 for 31 days while her daughter was missing. She claims to distrust LE but she is begging them to come to her house.
Why was there NO urgency over Caylee... EVER?
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 05:41 PM
I wonder how the "duty to retreat" law will play in this. I know if someone comes into your house, you can beat the tar out of them but I am wondering how this will work if the they were told not to go out into their yard. jmo
Yelling, throwing things at the house, in their yard, shining flashlights in the windows.
all against the law IMO
kakax
09-18-2008, 05:41 PM
Casey Anthony's Best Friend Speaks Out (http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4264657)
Very interesting! Thank you for the link!
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 05:41 PM
because she doesn't answer when she's first asked. She mumbles and doesn't answer. But whatever, it's not worth arguing about.
My disgust with her isn't over that. It's over her urgency calling 911 when this silliness is going on, but she did not call 911 for 31 days while her daughter was missing. She claims to distrust LE but she is begging them to come to her house.
Why was there NO urgency over Caylee... EVER?
Because she had to get ready for the Hot Body Contest
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 05:42 PM
The protesters have a right to protest..if they go against the law then the Anthonys have the right to call the police..its simple..The Anthonys make it worse by confronting them.
.....and will be held accountable if they use a baseball bat on an unarmed protester who is on their property. Unnecessary deadly force on an unarmed person is against the law.
We have seen self proclaimed victims cynthia and george escalate their violence towards the protesters. I see them losing control and really hurting someone. Then, they will be carted away by the cops.
Boxer
09-18-2008, 05:42 PM
That is irrelevant. The protesters broke the law by throwing things at the house and assaulting the Anthonys. That's the law and they belong in jail.
911 told them and George's brain should have told them to stay inside. What if someone decided they were afraid of that bat and pulled out a gun and shot George...? It was a dumbazz thing to do. And to make matters worse they made Cindy come out in her night shirt! My retinas!!!:cuss:
jill collins
09-18-2008, 05:43 PM
I think the bodyguards at the house are a weekend thing (because the action outside the house seems to pick up over the weekend), and also a we're-springing-Casey-from-jail accessory.
The trips to Jose's office have been of late been unguarded -- Lee was taking her to and fro last week.
Did the bodyguards exit after the security cameras were installed?
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:43 PM
Yeah ITA. I doubt they were drinking enough to impair their judgment, they were morons to begin with most likely, and bullies. All pumped up on adrenaline and eager to stay out past curfew and make a name for themselves.
Nobody ''protests'' in a small group in the middle of the night, apart from the rest of the actual protesters, and throws crap at houses.
Their statement was very telling about them 'breaking the Anthony's down' (paraphrased)
Unfortunately they are breaking the wrong people down. George and Cindy are the ones who have to deal with it, the property damage, the stress and their neighbors, while the ''person of interest'' is tucked away logging into Facebook, and picking out which short shorts to wear to the attorney's office, almost completely unaffected.
ITA. This whole "protest" thing has gone on too long. It needs to stop before the cops are investigating another violent crime.
dixielover
09-18-2008, 05:43 PM
Yelling, throwing things at the house, in their yard, shining flashlights in the windows.
all against the law IMO
I know that but when you are safe in your house and told to stay in your house can you pick up a bat and go outside.
A broken window is easy to fix - they had no idea what these people was carrying-guns, knives etc.
Just stupid!
Ellie
09-18-2008, 05:44 PM
Thats right; and thats whats been happening from the get go
Ok, I totally misunderstood... I didn't realize the cameras were the Anthony's cameras.
By the way, do you all have me on ignore??? :seeya::shrug:
CinTN
09-18-2008, 05:44 PM
I believe in order for a child to be here they would need parental consent. I'd hope no parent of young children would ever put their child on the board to read.
To my knowledge we are all posting adults, even tho at times might not appear as such, however...we each have the option of scroll or ignore.
ITA ..
ALSO
Sometimes we just need to SMILE .. :biggrin: nothing wrong with that last I checked..
and I dont think that breaks board policy
Cant be down and mad all the time..:patriot:
dixie77
09-18-2008, 05:44 PM
Exactly. How did they know if someone didn't have a gun, or a knife?
I think the A's are confronting them for the soul purpose of getting the
HOA or LE to stop the protesting so they don't upset that Caylee-less house.
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In my opinion, they knew the protestors didnt have a gun or knife cause it was a set up by the A's. for the reason u stated. JMO
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 05:44 PM
because she doesn't answer when she's first asked. She mumbles and doesn't answer. But whatever, it's not worth arguing about.
My disgust with her isn't over that. It's over her urgency calling 911 when this silliness is going on, but she did not call 911 for 31 days while her daughter was missing. She claims to distrust LE but she is begging them to come to her house.
Why was there NO urgency over Caylee... EVER?
Oh....ITA.....I was just posting this TWICE because it is new and seems to be the whole transcript. But apparently I am invisible because of all the fighting going on :tongue:
I just can't decide if I should use my new Super Power for good or evil :D
rose, she was never asked whether she was a protestor or a resident. The 911 operator knew that imformation. She was asked who she was, i.e. her name.
She was asked by the second operator
Here is part of the transcript
2nd Operator: Is this a protester or is this a resident?
Casey: It’s the protesters.
2nd Operator: No, I’m saying who are you?
Casey: I’m the resident. We have everything on tape thanks to Channel 2 and also our home surveillance.
IMO, the first time she was asked, she started to respond and the tape cut off, just as it did when she gave the address. I think she answered but they left it out as SOPs for redacting 911 calls. I don't think they can change their procedures just because its someone everyone knows about. JMO
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 05:45 PM
.....and will be held accountable if they use a baseball bat on an unarmed protester who is on their property. Unnecessary deadly force on an unarmed person is against the law.
We have seen self proclaimed victims cynthia and george escalate their violence towards the protesters. I see them losing control and really hurting someone. Then, they will be carted away by the cops.
IMO if someone is shining a flashlight in my window at 2:00 a.m., throwing things at my house, and yelling, they ARE indeed threatening me, and deadly force is acceptable.
JMHO
shelbar53
09-18-2008, 05:45 PM
yes it was discussed shel... earlier today
Ok thanks, i just think that video of his body language says alot
Boxer
09-18-2008, 05:46 PM
Ok, I totally misunderstood... I didn't realize the cameras were the Anthony's cameras.
By the way, do you all have me on ignore??? :seeya::shrug:
NOPE, I'm just shy
dixie77
09-18-2008, 05:47 PM
psssst .. you need to ask the other one the same question too .. ;)
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I thought thats what i was doing......lol
dixielover
09-18-2008, 05:47 PM
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In my opinion, they knew the protestors didnt have a gun or knife cause it was a set up by the A's. for the reason u stated. JMO
I agree- I don't think that the Anthony had any fear of these people- it was totally for show- they knew the cameras were rolling. jmo
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 05:47 PM
Rose honey,
Tell us how you really feel.;)
OK, next time;)
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 05:47 PM
Ok, I totally misunderstood... I didn't realize the cameras were the Anthony's cameras.
By the way, do you all have me on ignore??? :seeya::shrug:
OMG....ur invisible too!!!!!.......just imagine what you can do with this new found POWER ;)
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 05:47 PM
NEW Casey 911 TRANSCRIPT....looks like the whole thing.......
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/18/ocsd_releases_casey_anthonys_911_protester_call.ht ml
So if Cindy got the tag number, why is George putting out a release asking for information on the "protesters"?
And why did Casey hang up when the operator asked her for the tag number.
Was that really a bat or was it a giant pen?
Ellie
09-18-2008, 05:47 PM
Thats right; and thats whats been happening from the get go
I dont.....
Well whew! I have been tossing things out there all day and asked a couple questions, etc. Unless I'm getting lost in the flurry of posts I feel totally invisible, lol!! Oh well. Busy place I guess. :)
poplife
09-18-2008, 05:47 PM
I don't think they were every mentioned again...but this begs the question: If he was going there for something he needed, and they hadn't seen Casey since the 15th (or 16th if you believe George...I don't) , how was he sure he would be able to get them from Casey in order to do Cindy's tires that weekend(meaning, he already had plans to do the tires, but what he needed was in Casey's trunk and they hadn't seen or heard from her supposedly)? The whole 24th story is just weird, IMO.
and shouldn't they have decomp on them too?
CinTN
09-18-2008, 05:47 PM
Ok, I totally misunderstood... I didn't realize the cameras were the Anthony's cameras.
By the way, do you all have me on ignore??? :seeya::shrug:
I DONT ...:seeya:
I dont have anyone on ignore ,, I like to read ALL OPINIONS... I just know who to answer and who to ignore.. on my own ..
jammies
09-18-2008, 05:48 PM
Ok, I totally misunderstood... I didn't realize the cameras were the Anthony's cameras.
By the way, do you all have me on ignore??? :seeya::shrug:
Hi there. No iggy here. :seeya:
marshmallow
09-18-2008, 05:48 PM
What the heck was she supposed to do? She can't go out and start defending herself. Are they just supposed to sit there while this, imo drug and alcohol crazed vigilante destroys their home, their neighborhood. Are they supposed to just sit there and let these idiots come in and commit home invasion on them?
that's why I think a court order removing the protesters, supporters, and press from that area is in order. That way they family can focus on what's important... getting Casey to explain why she won't talk and possibly save her child's life, or at the least allow her parents some closure.
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 05:49 PM
If you feel its ok to take away the protesters rights..then maybe they should take Caseys rights away to and put her back in jail and then no one would be protesting.
She has the legal right to be out on bail.
Protesters DO NOT have the legal right to throw things at the house, shine flashlights in the windows, yell threats etc.
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 05:49 PM
I agree- I don't think that the Anthony had any fear of these people- it was totally for show- they knew the cameras were rolling. jmo
ITA, George looks like he's ready to start laughing any minute.
He was way more foreceful with the old lady that he pushed in the street and was more hateful with the reporter yesterday.
It was a setup.
IMO
Shellberry
09-18-2008, 05:49 PM
Anyone with half a brain stem cell working would know if you felt 'threatened and in harms way' not to go running out into it but stay inside and call the police.
I think its silly that they want to pretend to be victims when they went outside willingly with a bat. GMAB.
but if they had called the police half an hour before and they didnt come...what would you do?
He disagrees with me saying that the Anthonys were not keeping the peace by confronting the protesters?
I never said a thing about them protecting themselves or anything else that was posted. I said that they didnt keep the peace themselves by getting into the fray.
I highly doubt anyone would strongly disagree with that logic.
again, what would you do?
not being in this particular missing girl case--but in general if someone was doing that to you?
So how long do you think it will be before the protesters break into their home? Attack them when they are going to their cars, etc? Why shouldnt' these people go outside their homes? I promise oyu that if you did that to my house, I would go outside and confront you. Who put hands on first? George? No. The protesters are getting out of control and the Anthonys have every right to enjoy their home and yard, and not be attacked by common criminals.
We live in a country that gives rights to the accused. The Anthonys are not even accused of anything. What is wrong with people? Are all people in Florida like that?
He surely does not agree with you.
But hey, he's only an Orange County Cmdr. who knows the rights of George Anthony in the state of Florida. lol
I am in FL-I posted the brochure of what is allowed by protesters in FL-in the protester thread.
Im getting an itch to actually call the building where my local town cops are stationed.
my neighbors across the street were in a semi screaming match last night-2 police cars came down the street and parked (they have issues-and police have been called there to the house before)
Sorry you feel like that. This is an adult board. There is a link thread and breaking news stuff is posted there..:seeya:
exactly, whoever doesnt want to scroll through the threads and see/read everyones opinion-can go straight to the links thread.
sorry everyone-not trying to be nasty or anything today.
I think we are all at a point where something needs to break in this case.
imo/jmo
dixielover
09-18-2008, 05:49 PM
No less during the hours of 1-3 A.M., as well as walking up slamming on the Anthony's garage door.
Are they on tape banging on the Anthony's garage door or is that what they said- I will have to see it to believe it with this bunch. I guess once a liar kind of always a liar. imo
aubrey04
09-18-2008, 05:50 PM
I am so glad that the Anthony's find the news crews useful now. After George berated the reporter and cameraman yesterday ..telling them they will all have to face "judgment day" etc. Now the Anthony's are wanting to use the video footage that the news crews took last night to prove their case. :rolleyes:
This is so typical of the Anthony's. They blast the media one second.. the next they are using the media to further their lies.
Of course, it's the same with LE.. One second - they're blasting them.. the next they are demanding that they get to their house "immediately".
GMAB. :rolleyes:
Officers need to "hurry up".. and get there "immediately" and Casey states, "They need to be arrested because this can’t keep happening"... calling them "punks".
No, Casey needs to be "arrested" "immediately" because "this (KILLING A CHILD) can't keep happening"... and is this child killer seriously calling other people ~ "punks"?
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 05:50 PM
She has the legal right to be out on bail.
Protesters DO NOT have the legal right to throw things at the house, shine flashlights in the windows, yell threats etc.
I didn't see any flashlights in their hands.
:shrug:
SavannahStar
09-18-2008, 05:50 PM
ITA ..
ALSO
Sometimes we just need to SMILE .. nothing wrong with that last I checked..
and I dont think that breaks board policy
Cant be down and mad all the time..
I think the "one liner of the day" contest every afternoon also lowers the blood pressure for many because of the frequent :cuss: and :flamemad: on here. So for mental and physical health if nothing else people need the outlet of ridiculing and mocking the Anthonys. There is nothing otherwise that any of us can do in this case. (Except for our heroic searchers, and to them I say :beer:).
(Sorry I had to delete your smilies to use mine! Please forgive me!)
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:50 PM
Obviously the Anthonys were looking for a fight. When you call LE and they suggest you STAY in your home..that doesn't mean pick up a freakin baseball bat and go after them....
jmo
Ummmm no. Who started it? The protesters. The ones who started it were looking for a fight. Nothing you say justifies what these criminals are doing. The protesters need to be locked up and prosecuted. Thats the law. The one who throws the first punch is the one who started it. And you can't tell me that throwing the pennies at their house and trespassing on their property wasn't meant to entice the Anthonys into coming outside to attack them. What other purpose could the protesters have had? Really, why do you think they did that? The protesters were trying to instigate a fight. Like a bully teasing a dog into attacking. Totally trash. Do you Really think they were justified in vandalism and assault? I imagine it was pretty scary and GA is going to protect his family. The people who first went out there might have been decent, but the ones who are protesting now are the dregs of society.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 05:50 PM
The 911 Operator only gave her 2 options, and your choice wasn't one of them.
True, but the great improvisor could have been more creative. But, she might have been grappling with her alters and couldn't figure out who she was. After all, she did say protesters first, IIRC and had to be asked the question again.:rolleyes: Definite identity problems, IMO.
Boxer
09-18-2008, 05:50 PM
I agree- I don't think that the Anthony had any fear of these people- it was totally for show- they knew the cameras were rolling. jmo
George was begging them...Come on, Come on...:rolleyes:
barskin&co.
09-18-2008, 05:51 PM
She was asked by the second operator
Here is part of the transcript
2nd Operator: Is this a protester or is this a resident?
Casey: It’s the protesters.
2nd Operator: No, I’m saying who are you?
Casey: I’m the resident. We have everything on tape thanks to Channel 2 and also our home surveillance.
IMO, the first time she was asked, she started to respond and the tape cut off, just as it did when she gave the address. I think she answered but they left it out as SOPs for redacting 911 calls. I don't think they can change their procedures just because its someone everyone knows about. JMO
Aha. Okay.
To ?WudScoobyDo, I was wrong about that. They did ask if she was a protestor or a resident. I stand corrected.
mosey2
09-18-2008, 05:51 PM
Here is another TRANSCRIPT of Casey's 911 call. This one is from ch. 13. It seems like it has everything but it says "inaudible" after the operator asks Casey for her name :shrug:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/18/ocsd_releases_casey_anthonys_911_protester_call.ht ml
LOL! Casey finally learns to dial 911, and they hang up on her!
(maybe she figured out it's not nine-eleven, but nine-one-one. Had the darnedest time before, looking for that eleven on the dial)
:hat:
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 05:51 PM
So if Cindy got the tag number, why is George putting out a release asking for information on the "protesters"?
And why did Casey hang up when the operator asked her for the tag number.
Was that really a bat or was it a giant pen?
According to George's information sheet it was a giant pen. They were trying to ask the protesters nicely for some personal info.....you know, in case they wanted to invite them over for a dinner party sometime :hat:
martha
09-18-2008, 05:51 PM
When asked if there were any weapons lying Casey failed to mention Cindy and her bat. ITA they ask her if anyone had weapons and she would not ans them. ha. That 911 call made by casey just made me sick. she could not call 911 to help a little hepless baby her baby at that but she can call because some one was out side her mother and daddy house. how awful. I still think geroge saw something or found something beside gas cans the 24 when he looked in the trunk of that car. His temper is going to get the best of him soon or later. jmho:rose:
Boxer
09-18-2008, 05:52 PM
Are they on tape banging on the Anthony's garage door or is that what they said- I will have to see it to believe it with this bunch. I guess once a liar kind of always a liar. imo
I dunno, but it's on tape George shoving his spouse around pretty hard...
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 05:52 PM
Poor George looked so totally ridiculous standing behind Cindy and her bat. Pathetic.
He also looked totally impotent holding that hose in his hand with the weak stream of water directed at the laughing protestors. IMO.
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 05:53 PM
LOL! Casey finally learns to dial 911, and they hang up on her!
(maybe she figured out it's not nine-eleven, but nine-one-one. Had the darnedest time before, looking for that eleven on the dial)
:hat:
Don't give her any ideas.....next thing you know...she will be saying that she DID try to call 911 when Caylee went missing, but they hung up on her......:chicken:
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:53 PM
that's why I think a court order removing the protesters, supporters, and press from that area is in order. That way they family can focus on what's important... getting Casey to explain why she won't talk and possibly save her child's life, or at the least allow her parents some closure.
If anything, they are making things worse by feeding into an "its us against them" mentality.
aubrey04
09-18-2008, 05:55 PM
Oh....ITA.....I was just posting this TWICE because it is new and seems to be the whole transcript. But apparently I am invisible because of all the fighting going on :tongue:
I just can't decide if I should use my new Super Power for good or evil :D
Oh beetlebrow, thank you for posting the link. I was going to transcribe it earlier but I had to run an errand and didn't get a chance. It was good to read exactly what was said and not listen to Casey's whiney voice again. lol.
Sorry if my post came off bad -- I should have phrased it better.. (and sorry for not thanking you for the transcript in the first place!).
dixie77
09-18-2008, 05:55 PM
It gets very busy and I'm sure no one ignores you on purpose (unless you are a double nicker or a troll)...Just keep on posting!
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A double nicker? u mean like when one person has more than one name and they post on the two different names here? U mean to tell me that there really is people who do that here? Geesh
EGirl
09-18-2008, 05:55 PM
Did it take them half an hour to respond to that altercation like LE took to respond at the Anthony home?
They should be thankful that it didn't take 31 DAYS
martha
09-18-2008, 05:56 PM
George was begging them...Come on, Come on...:rolleyes:
If g and c did not want to know when the people was in front of their house why did they put up the camera on their house so they could see them. c and g or looking for a fight they know what happened to little caylee so does lee and now they or just wanting everyone to go away they want the news media to go away and for all to just forget about this case and caylee.jmho:rose:
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:56 PM
The Anthonys are stirring up the protesters so they can make several calls a nite to 911 and complain they got their feelings hurt and such so they will tell the protesters to stay away. Thats the plan plain and simple in my opinion.
So once again, the poor protesters aren't responsible for their actions? THat's funny. People who want to assault the Anthonys for not holding their daughter accountable for what she did shouldn't be held accountable for their criminal actions because they are being "stirred up." Let me know how the prosecutor feels about that one.
jammies
09-18-2008, 05:56 PM
The Anthonys are stirring up the protesters so they can make several calls a nite to 911 and complain they got their feelings hurt and such so they will tell the protesters to stay away. Thats the plan plain and simple in my opinion.
They probably HIRED the protesters, thus the "untruth" about the getting the tag number.
st777jo
09-18-2008, 05:56 PM
No less during the hours of 1-3 A.M., as well as walking up slamming on the Anthony's garage door.
I seen most of the video's out there, but I didn't see one where the protesters are slamming the garage door, throwing pennies or pebbles.
Do you have a link?
Unperson1984
09-18-2008, 05:57 PM
Wait, wait.
So by them confronting the protesters...they were "Keeping the Peace???""
Peace meaning non-confrontive or escalating action. They were NOT keeping the peace by yelling and screaming. KEeping the peace would have involved the exact opposite of what they did.
Sorry, I dont have to be anything more then what I am to know that that is bull.
I dont see the point in defending the Anthonys as victims when they themselves walked into the confrontation. They had the CHOICE to wait for LE to get the situation under control. They choose non-peaceful actions instead.
Therefore they were NOT keeping the peace.
When I listen to the 911 calls I hear a report of property damage to the garage door by the pounding of the "protesters." So the "protesters" are both trespassing and committing vandalism. The Anthony’s have every right to protect their property and themselves, as the LE Commander pointed out. They are not required to cower in the house while their home is vandalized.
These people have the right to PEACEFUL protest, there is no legal right to violently protest.
jammies
09-18-2008, 05:57 PM
They should be thankful that it didn't take 31 DAYS
POST OF THE DAY, E Girl.
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:57 PM
If g and c did not want to know when the people was in front of their house why did they put up the camera on their house so they could see them. c and g or looking for a fight they know what happened to little caylee so does lee and now they or just wanting everyone to go away they want the news media to go away and for all to just forget about this case and caylee.jmho:rose:
So Martha, what do you think the point of banging on their garage door and throwing things at their house was? What was the point of assaultting George?
WillowInFlight
09-18-2008, 05:58 PM
He also looked totally impotent holding that hose in his hand with the weak stream of water directed at the laughing protestors. IMO.
.....:lol:.....
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 05:58 PM
Caylee
Caylee
Caylee..............
Please do not lose sight of her, please.
:shrug:
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 05:58 PM
They should call the police. Let the police handle it.
Yes. Call police. Indicate you fear they are breaking in. Stand there with the bat and start swinging like crazy if they enter your home.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 05:58 PM
No less during the hours of 1-3 A.M., as well as walking up slamming on the Anthony's garage door.
I think we all agree that last night's protester's were way out of line. I think the Anthonys/HOA picked their cast well, ;) What's at issue is the manner in which the Anthonys responded. It's always something with them and it's always acting outside the norm, IMO.
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 05:58 PM
me too and I've always believed his whole story, is a lie. Cant get away from it, he saw Casey in that Trunk, not Gas Cans. Im OK tho as I KNOW that LE also realizes this, they are not stupid like this family wants to portray them, didnt the McCanns attack LE as well? Yeah, they are following a script.
I guess Cindy/Psychologist talking heads are right about parts of what Casey says are taken from the truth.....I think she had the script planned from the moment Caylee died :mad: I also don't think she let her mom in on the script till after the 911 call cause she new her mom would FREAK OUT. JMO
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 05:59 PM
They should call the police. Let the police handle it.
They did call the police. This whole thing is out of control. I think the Anthonys were really afraid.
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 05:59 PM
IMO if someone is shining a flashlight in my window at 2:00 a.m., throwing things at my house, and yelling, they ARE indeed threatening me, and deadly force is acceptable.
JMHO
The anthonys confronted the protesters in the driveway, not around their windows trying to break in.. Had one of the anthonys swung that bat and killed an unarmed protester they would have been in serious trouble. IMO.
CinTN
09-18-2008, 05:59 PM
I think the "one liner of the day" contest every afternoon also lowers the blood pressure for many because of the frequent :cuss: and :flamemad: on here. So for mental and physical health if nothing else people need the outlet of ridiculing and mocking the Anthonys. There is nothing otherwise that any of us can do in this case. (Except for our heroic searchers, and to them I say :beer:).
(Sorry I had to delete your smilies to use mine! Please forgive me!)
*cuss* *flamemad* ALL RIGHT THATS IT ,, HOW DARE YOU DELETE MY SMILIES ,,,
THATS IT IM GETTING THE *h a m m e r*
*lol* *rose*
I love the one liners,, i actually look forward to them after a long day at work!!
Unperson1984
09-18-2008, 05:59 PM
I seen most of the video's out there, but I didn't see one where the protesters are slamming the garage door, throwing pennies or pebbles.
Do you have a link?
The LE Commander has said that the "protesters" are at fault. What else do you need?
Boxer
09-18-2008, 05:59 PM
there were no protesters around for the many 911 calls BEFORE Casey misplaced her daughter....:shrug:
MoonHarvest
09-18-2008, 06:00 PM
I dunno, but it's on tape George shoving his spouse around pretty hard...
I noticed that too. I still say I'm surprised one of the three of them has not gone off on another inside of that house, yet.
Dogmatic
09-18-2008, 06:00 PM
They should be thankful that it didn't take 31 DAYS
Amen!!!!!!!!!
Rebel Rouzer
09-18-2008, 06:00 PM
They should be thankful that it didn't take 31 DAYS
Bravo. You are exactly right. All this hype about what LE did or didn't do about the call on protesters etc At least it didn't take them as long as it took Casey to report her own daughter missing. Wait Casey didn't Cindy did.
aubrey04
09-18-2008, 06:00 PM
They should be thankful that it didn't take 31 DAYS
Excellent point, EGirl. :patriot:
farrahrani
09-18-2008, 06:00 PM
Did it take them half an hour to respond to that altercation like LE took to respond at the Anthony home?
Took LE longer than that when my toddler opened a window and escaped while I was helping her brother in the bathroom. Which is a bigger emergency as she was little and in physical danger of getting hit by a car.
I didn't complain I was just glad they found her as fast as they did and got her home safe.
barskin&co.
09-18-2008, 06:00 PM
AMEN..lets not forget CAYLEE...she didnt get a half hour 911 call..she got a 31 day call!
And not by Miss Casey ("what do they want to speak to me for") Anthony, either. Caylee got a 911 call by Casey....never.
Cury-us Coyote
09-18-2008, 06:00 PM
4:08 p.m. The lead detective investigating the Caylee Anthony case was hospitalized overnight after breaking his leg.
Detective Yuri Melich, the investigator who told a judge in July that he believed Caylee Anthony was likely dead and her mother was the person of interest, was released this morning.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story
Thank You for the link.
Did the leak of Melich's injury first originate from another board or a media telecast? TIA
day2day
09-18-2008, 06:00 PM
Ummmm no. Who started it? The protesters. The ones who started it were looking for a fight. Nothing you say justifies what these criminals are doing. The protesters need to be locked up and prosecuted. Thats the law. The one who throws the first punch is the one who started it. And you can't tell me that throwing the pennies at their house and trespassing on their property wasn't meant to entice the Anthonys into coming outside to attack them. What other purpose could the protesters have had? Really, why do you think they did that? The protesters were trying to instigate a fight. Like a bully teasing a dog into attacking. Totally trash. Do you Really think they were justified in vandalism and assault? I imagine it was pretty scary and GA is going to protect his family. The people who first went out there might have been decent, but the ones who are protesting now are the dregs of society.
I am not saying the protesters were right. LE advised them to STAY INSIDE. They decided to go outside anyway. I also think its a crime that the Anthony's are taking gift cards and cash to help "search" for Caylee..when they don't leave their house to search. But hey..i have been wrong before...
jmo
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 06:01 PM
They did call the police. This whole thing is out of control. I think the Anthonys were really afraid.
:lol: They relished every single second of it, more chapters for their book/screenplay/movie of the week.
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 06:02 PM
He also looked totally impotent holding that hose in his hand with the weak stream of water directed at the laughing protestors. IMO.
I would say something.....but seeing as I haven't a thing to wear to band camp.....
:biggrin:
bluwaters
09-18-2008, 06:02 PM
Casey Anthony's Best Friend Speaks Out
http://www.540wfla.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=227698&article=4264657
kakax
09-18-2008, 06:02 PM
Thank You for the link.
Did the leak of Melich's injury first originate from another board or a media telecast? TIA
I"m not sure, but I did hear he was injured here this morning. This was the first time I saw the circumstances.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:02 PM
LOL! Casey finally learns to dial 911, and they hang up on her!
(maybe she figured out it's not nine-eleven, but nine-one-one. Had the darnedest time before, looking for that eleven on the dial)
:hat:
Actually, after be asked to stay on the line and ensuring the operator she would, she hung up on them, IMO.
MoonHarvest
09-18-2008, 06:03 PM
:lol: They relished every single second of it, more chapters for their book/screenplay/movie of the week.
Hey somebody should put a camera inside their house for one of those reality TV shows.:lol:
WillowInFlight
09-18-2008, 06:03 PM
They should be thankful that it didn't take 31 DAYS
No wonder I love you so much. :beer:
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 06:04 PM
Casey has had that family under her spell for years, for some ridiculous reason. Now her parents are trying to get the general public to fall under the spell too.
All of this circus is just what they want to try to work their "slight of hand", smoke and mirrors to distract everybody from the fact that Cayley is no longer around.
No matter what side you are on this dear child is missing. Just because she was only on this earth for just under 3 years does not make her expendable. I am surprised the gp's initial shock has not worn off and they have not called casey to the carpet on this.
If I lived there in Fla I would sit peacefully outside their home with a big picture of Caylee that says. "Please bring me home, Grandma and Grandpa, I love you".
No coins, no rocks, no bats just the simple truth.
I try to just lurk but this case has really gotten to me.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:05 PM
They should be thankful that it didn't take 31 DAYS
You got that right:beer:
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:05 PM
Dont twist my words or add to them k?
I have never stated anywhere on any board that the protesters arent responsible for their actions. We are all responsible for ourselves.
What I did say and please read it..was this...
The Anthonys should not take the law into their own hands. If the protesters were doing anything illegal ..call the police and let the police handle it. They should NOT confront them with a bat.
I suggest you study criminal law and constitutional law. The Anthonys have every right to protect their property. The protesters are criminals and they belong in jail. Looking at them on tv last night, I wondered how many of them have criminal records, have warrants on them or are on public assistance. They don't care about caylee. THis is just another chance to be what they are.
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:05 PM
:lol: They relished every single second of it, more chapters for their book/screenplay/movie of the week.
don't forget those licensing fees for the photos. George will pull out the ones of him manhandling Cindy...for his private collection.
dixielover
09-18-2008, 06:05 PM
....ITA!
But you can't bring truth to this fact with LE Commander Luckey's statement, because people here don't want to hear that! ;)
What do you think these guys will get for throwing pennies at the house?
I would imagine with Casey's reputation, GA probably has seen alot of pebbles thrown at their house by guys. Come out Casey and let's party!
I don't believe that they should have been out there doing that but they sure made a situation alot worst by going outside. jmo
msjoni
09-18-2008, 06:05 PM
He also looked totally impotent holding that hose in his hand with the weak stream of water directed at the laughing protestors. IMO.
:lol:
The Anthony's should have just stayed in their house... like LE told them to....
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 06:06 PM
Oh beetlebrow, thank you for posting the link. I was going to transcribe it earlier but I had to run an errand and didn't get a chance. It was good to read exactly what was said and not listen to Casey's whiney voice again. lol.
Sorry if my post came off bad -- I should have phrased it better.. (and sorry for not thanking you for the transcript in the first place!).
No problem......:rose:, I wasnt mad, just frustrated.....now I'm frustrated because I realize that I don't have a Super Power :cuss:
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:06 PM
I suggest you study criminal law and constitutional law. The Anthonys have every right to protect their property. The protesters are criminals and they belong in jail. Looking at them on tv last night, I wondered how many of them have criminal records, have warrants on them or are on public assistance. They don't care about caylee. THis is just another chance to be what they are.
um, what does public assistance have to do with it...if I might ask.
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:07 PM
I think the goal of some of the protesters is that they can provoke one of the Anthony family to commit a violent crime against a protestor.
I'm not in support of these protestors, but I have to admit, it would be damn tempting to try to get George or Cindy to take the bait just to see them in handcuffs.
Why? Because you personally dislike them? People can't be arrested becasue they don't do what you want them to do. Remember the constitution? And if they provoke a fight, the protesters will go to jail. Ever heard of the term "fighting words?"
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 06:07 PM
I would say something.....but seeing as I haven't a thing to wear to band camp.....
:biggrin:
The trick is to be subtle, very, very subtle. ;)
shelbar53
09-18-2008, 06:07 PM
Is there a link of JB picking up Casey in a huff? Pls
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US
happy2bme
09-18-2008, 06:07 PM
Caylee
Caylee
Caylee..............
Please do not lose sight of her, please.
:shrug:
Irish I was just thinking the same thing. This has to be one of the most insane, unbelievable & azzine case I have ever witnessed. Seems that Caylee is being thought of a little less as each "show" happens.
Shellberry
09-18-2008, 06:08 PM
Ok, I totally misunderstood... I didn't realize the cameras were the Anthony's cameras.
By the way, do you all have me on ignore??? :seeya::shrug:
I dont have you-or anyone- on ignore.
:)
No less during the hours of 1-3 A.M., as well as walking up slamming on the Anthony's garage door.
I know Im not the only one to say it, but I'd bust someones duppa for throwing crap at my garage door.
Im not in their particular situation--but Im thinking vandals.... in their case, which I know is sooo different, I dont blame them for going outside.
that's why I think a court order removing the protesters, supporters, and press from that area is in order. That way they family can focus on what's important... getting Casey to explain why she won't talk and possibly save her child's life, or at the least allow her parents some closure.
I agree-I see the hoa filed another thing-I hope it gets passed.
Are they on tape banging on the Anthony's garage door or is that what they said- I will have to see it to believe it with this bunch. I guess once a liar kind of always a liar. imo just by the cuts of the bunch, I believe it.
I also think they were drinking, like has been posted--but 'we dont know that for sure'.
as a lot of posters here like to point out.
I wouldnt run outside to confront someone..I have more than a half of brain stem tho.
seriously? If I called the cops, regardless of the situation, because someone was throwing stuff or whatever--and the cops didnt show up...
I would go to my door, with whatever I had
they are 'confronting' people-because we all know the circumstances here.
but in your own real life, if someone threw stuff at your door, shined a light in your window & knocked.......what would you do?
would you call the cops? and wait? or would you go see who the heck the punks were?
Did it take them half an hour to respond to that altercation like LE took to respond at the Anthony home?
actually yes, I dont know who called the cops--but they were outside screaming at the tops of their lungs for about 37 minutes (I smoke, and I do it outside, we dont smoke in the house with our daughter) as soon as the cops went by-they stopped yelling so loud.
it is disrupting for the people that live right next to them, and the police have been there before.
our place where the cops station is-is literally a second away.
sometimes they fight and it boils down--other times it gets out of hand.
I think they took so long to get here this last time because usually the lady doesnt press charges--and they basically waste their time.
seriously, the station thing is right next to the park-it takes me about 5 minutes to walk to the park with my daughter in her stroller.
day2day
09-18-2008, 06:08 PM
um, what does public assistance have to do with it...if I might ask.
Profilin....imo
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:08 PM
um, what does public assistance have to do with it...if I might ask.
That seems rather obvious. If they had jobs, or they cared about raising their children, they wouldn't be there. Its not a slam against all people on assistance. Its a slam on the protesters, because they don't care about Caylee.
beetlebrow
09-18-2008, 06:09 PM
I suggest you study criminal law and constitutional law. The Anthonys have every right to protect their property. The protesters are criminals and they belong in jail. Looking at them on tv last night, I wondered how many of them have criminal records, have warrants on them or are on public assistance. They don't care about caylee. THis is just another chance to be what they are.
And they probably live in trailers too and drink cheap beer!!!.....geez could you be more ignorant hammer
jammies
09-18-2008, 06:09 PM
Click! Light just went on. That would explain why Casey just seemed to disappear into the air after she went to get the license tag numbers from Cindy for the 911 dispatcher. There was just silence on the Anthony end of things at that point.
Very interesting. And definitely feels like a set up. Maybe G and C didn't expect the princess to wake from her beauty sleep when the games began?
Yep. Crazy, huh?
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 06:09 PM
don't forget those licensing fees for the photos. George will pull out the ones of him manhandling Cindy...for his private collection.
Oh my dear, the anthonys have gone way beyond mere photos, they are capturing all the magic on film now!!!
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:10 PM
No problem......:rose:, I wasnt mad, just frustrated.....now I'm frustrated because I realize that I don't have a Super Power :cuss:
I think you're pretty super, if that helps:rose:
mosey2
09-18-2008, 06:10 PM
You think the pretend protesters have a right to be doing what they did last night?!?
Casey does have a right to Bond - blame it on the Judge who allowed it.
Those pretend protesters do not have the right to call all-out-war on anyone, not the Anthonys, and not the neighborhood where people should be allowed to sleep at that hour.
Well, the protesters DO have a right to "call all our war", just like I have a right to say I am going to punch someone in the face. Although my right to punch that someone's face stops at the end of their nose.:)
tybek
09-18-2008, 06:10 PM
Hi all! I'm back after being gone several hours. So nothing ever came of the TES spokesperson saying they would be back to make a statement that would "surprise" everyone? I've tried to scan the posting since this morning but didn't see anything about another TES statement. TIA
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:10 PM
Why? Because you personally dislike them? People can't be arrested becasue they don't do what you want them to do. Remember the constitution? And if they provoke a fight, the protesters will go to jail. Ever heard of the term "fighting words?"
not in the legal system I have not heard the term "fighting words"
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 06:11 PM
That seems rather obvious. If they had jobs, or they cared about raising their children, they wouldn't be there. Its not a slam against all people on assistance. Its a slam on the protesters, because they don't care about Caylee.
And the Anthony's do?! They sure don't act like it!
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:11 PM
That seems rather obvious. If they had jobs, or they cared about raising their children, they wouldn't be there. Its not a slam against all people on assistance. Its a slam on the protesters, because they don't care about Caylee.
good cover....but it probably didn't work.
farrahrani
09-18-2008, 06:11 PM
Click! Light just went on. That would explain why Casey just seemed to disappear into the air after she went to get the license tag numbers from Cindy for the 911 dispatcher. There was just silence on the Anthony end of things at that point.
Very interesting. And definitely feels like a set up. Maybe G and C didn't expect the princess to wake from her beauty sleep when the games began?
I don't think so...though we may be giving them ideas at this point, when they read this, lol.
I don't know how good actors GA and CA are normally but they seemed truly heated, and those kids really seemed genuine in their stupidity and hatred.
I just think it was out of control. The media shows things gradually heating up over a period of weeks, from people knocking on the doors, tempting the Anthony's into screaming matches, this was almost inevitable.
What I really think was interesting was that the camera got really good closeups of George and Cindy and the bystander across the street (She was shown after everything was clearing up) but the ''protesters'' (god I hate calling them that, for lack of a better name) were not nearly as clear, or as close up, even though the cameraperson was alongside them and had an excellent chance of getting really clear pictures to help identify them.
I'd be more suspicious of the cameramen than of LE, IMO.
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:11 PM
I am not saying the protesters were right. LE advised them to STAY INSIDE. They decided to go outside anyway. I also think its a crime that the Anthony's are taking gift cards and cash to help "search" for Caylee..when they don't leave their house to search. But hey..i have been wrong before...
jmo
And you're entitled to your opinion. But the cops and da do the investigations, not vigilantes.
WillowInFlight
09-18-2008, 06:11 PM
That seems rather obvious. If they had jobs, or they cared about raising their children, they wouldn't be there. Its not a slam against all people on assistance. Its a slam on the protesters, because they don't care about Caylee.
Kind of like if Casey had a job and cared about Caylee?
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 06:11 PM
And they probably live in trailers too and drink cheap beer!!!.....geez could you be more ignorant hammer
She didn't mention rednecks or fat people............yet. hammer
Albini
09-18-2008, 06:11 PM
Did it take them half an hour to respond to that altercation like LE took to respond at the Anthony home?
1/2 hour isnt unreasonable.
I lived across the road and down 1/2 a block from the fire station. I called them at 12:40 at night b/c my carbon monoxide detector was going off. I sat on my porch and waited. It took them 20 minutes to load the truck, personal and drive 2 minutes down the road.
1/2 hour isnt enough of a time delay to pin the LE with a "You dont care about the Anthonys" badge.
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:12 PM
Some people need anger management to learn 'self control'.
Maybe they will have an anger and behavior management class for the protesters. They need it.
mosey2
09-18-2008, 06:12 PM
Click! Light just went on. That would explain why Casey just seemed to disappear into the air after she went to get the license tag numbers from Cindy for the 911 dispatcher. There was just silence on the Anthony end of things at that point.
Very interesting. And definitely feels like a set up. Maybe G and C didn't expect the princess to wake from her beauty sleep when the games began?
LE is on the hunt for the protesters. If they're found, and their fines are greater than what George coulf afford for their services, it will come out!
MOO
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:12 PM
Thats was a horrible post. You just slammed many people with your hate filled post. Many people need help and just because there is someone protesting doesnt mean they are jobless. And sweetie you have no clue as to how they raise their children...BUT we DO know how the Anthonys raised theirs dont we?
Hear, Hear :beer:
MoonHarvest
09-18-2008, 06:12 PM
Fighting fighting everywhere it seems, even on here between posters. :read:
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 06:12 PM
Click! Light just went on. That would explain why Casey just seemed to disappear into the air after she went to get the license tag numbers from Cindy for the 911 dispatcher. There was just silence on the Anthony end of things at that point.
Very interesting. And definitely feels like a set up. Maybe G and C didn't expect the princess to wake from her beauty sleep when the games began?
Oh, I think they expected her to do her part to make sure the security camera they installed was catching all of it and to call the police with her urgency.
And yes, I think it was a set up.
dixielover
09-18-2008, 06:12 PM
I know alot here is saying that if they were banging on your garage you would go out and confront them.
On weekend, I am life flight and er, believe me a garage door is much easier to fix than a fractured skull or a shot through the abdomen.
Let the police handle it!!!!! jmo
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:13 PM
Kind of like if Casey had a job and cared about Caylee?
Yep, kinda like that. What are the protesters accomplishing? NOTHING.
shelbar53
09-18-2008, 06:13 PM
She didn't mention rednecks or fat people............yet. hammer
hey leave me out of this
jammies
09-18-2008, 06:13 PM
Irish I was just thinking the same thing. This has to be one of the most insane, unbelievable & azzine case I have ever witnessed. Seems that Caylee is being thought of a little less as each "show" happens.
which is why the Anthony's keep provoking the protesters. It deflects the attention away from Caylee.
tiny paw-prints
09-18-2008, 06:13 PM
Originally Posted by trt
I don't think they were every mentioned again...but this begs the question: If he was going there for something he needed, and they hadn't seen Casey since the 15th (or 16th if you believe George...I don't) , how was he sure he would be able to get them from Casey in order to do Cindy's tires that weekend(meaning, he already had plans to do the tires, but what he needed was in Casey's trunk and they hadn't seen or heard from her supposedly)? The whole 24th story is just weird, IMO.
And coincidentally, isn't that particular "weekend" when the car was abandoned? In addition to GA's story about the 24th, wouldn't the little metal wedges have decomp? Did LE confiscate the wedges? Are they part of the evidence collected?
Where was George between the 24th-27th?
toadii
09-18-2008, 06:13 PM
I suggest you study criminal law and constitutional law. The Anthonys have every right to protect their property. The protesters are criminals and they belong in jail. Looking at them on tv last night, I wondered how many of them have criminal records, have warrants on them or are on public assistance. They don't care about caylee. THis is just another chance to be what they are.
is being on public assistance a crime :eek:
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 06:14 PM
LE is on the hunt for the protesters. If they're found, and their fines are greater than what George coulf afford for their services, it will come out!
MOO
If Cindy got the tag number, they shouldn't have to hunt very far.
In fact, they should have already been in custody at dawn.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:14 PM
The garage door incident was reported by Casey in her 911 call. But consider the source. Garage door looked fine to me when JB picked Casey up this morning.
ITA. Let's see what the Anthonys home security tapes and, as Casey said, Channel 2's tapes, show. I didn't see a flashlight among the protesters. I think the Anthonys lie so I'm going to go into a show me mode where any information they provide is under consideration. JMO.
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:15 PM
And the Anthony's do?! They sure don't act like it!
YOur attitude is really ugly, and you have no idea how or what they fel or think. Just saying.
Anakerie
09-18-2008, 06:16 PM
Oh....ITA.....I was just posting this TWICE because it is new and seems to be the whole transcript. But apparently I am invisible because of all the fighting going on
I just can't decide if I should use my new Super Power for good or evil :D
:seeya:I see you... So either I have x-ray vision or you're not invisible. I know what you mean about all the fighting in here though... I think I'm posting invisibly most of the time.
:shrug:
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:16 PM
The garage door incident was reported by Casey in her 911 call. But consider the source. Garage door looked fine to me when JB picked Casey up this morning.
and all 23 cents were rounded up and hauled to the pokey for evidence
st777jo
09-18-2008, 06:16 PM
I believe, the protesters who create a riot atmosphere, need to get a life.
I also believe that Casey took a life that Caylee won't get to have.
jmo, jo
Rebel Rouzer
09-18-2008, 06:17 PM
No wonder I love you so much. :beer:
She is quite a gem isn't she?
Now I know that these protesters lastnight were there to cause problems and they are doing more than protesting. BUT as was just stated on Headline news by an attorney and a psychologist. The Anthony's should allow the authorites to do their job and they should not be confronting and arguing with these people who claim to be protesting when they start doing something wrong or illegal..
Everyone i talk to see the WRONG on both sides from the protesters and the Anthony's. I agree with Nejame. This has got to stop.
The Anthony's and the UNpeaceful protesters. IMO
Good to see ya
mosey2
09-18-2008, 06:17 PM
hey leave me out of this
:lol:I didn't expect that!
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 06:17 PM
Irish I was just thinking the same thing. This has to be one of the most insane, unbelievable & azzine case I have ever witnessed. Seems that Caylee is being thought of a little less as each "show" happens.
Maybe this will sober some people up-
If Caylee is alive and kidnapped she is a small child away from her home and family for 94 days. That is sad enough.
If she is dead she is rotting away in filth, or was pecked at and gnawed on by animals, left for trash, presumably by those who "loved" her!
I cannot imagine this, as a human being. I just cannot wrap my head around it and yet we have numbskulls here picking fights and falling right into the A's ploy to make us forget that dear child, CAYLEE.
:
flamemad:
Albini
09-18-2008, 06:17 PM
I suggest you study criminal law and constitutional law. The Anthonys have every right to protect their property. The protesters are criminals and they belong in jail. Looking at them on tv last night, I wondered how many of them have criminal records, have warrants on them or are on public assistance. They don't care about caylee. THis is just another chance to be what they are.
You and others have said What does protesting do to get Caylee back?
What does confronting the protesters do to get Caylee back? Why is one action okay to you when done by the Anthonys, but the other action when done by someone else not?
The theory of two wrongs dont make a right goes both ways.
Also, your comment about public assitance is asinine. WHat does one have to do with the other?
cuddlyrunner
09-18-2008, 06:18 PM
did ask earlier but think it got lost-someone mentioned jb looking cross when he collected casey-is there a link for it and if there is would somone kind pm me. Thanks
CinTN
09-18-2008, 06:18 PM
And they probably live in trailers too and drink cheap beer!!!.....geez could you be more ignorant hammer
Hey i resemble that remark ...
I live in a " MODULAR HOME " and drink " INEXPENSIVE beer "
now now ,, you should know by now you must be PC about stuff .. :lol:
:cheers: :D
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 06:19 PM
hey leave me out of this
:tongue: LOL!
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:19 PM
They certainly do.
FGS, the villagers weren't charging the property with flaming torches to capture the monster and destroy her. If it's true, they threw 23 cents. Yeah, I'd go out and confront them for that:rolleyes: Stupid is as stupid does. The Anthonys are acting stupidly, unless of course they realized they were in no real danger because they, in fact, have paid these pretend protesters. Yeah, that's what I'm beginning to think. It's the only thing that makes sense. JMO.
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 06:19 PM
She didn't mention rednecks or fat people............yet. hammer
Maybe that's what's meant by "fighting words"?
:shrug:
happy2bme
09-18-2008, 06:19 PM
Here is an updated link with some stories following
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html (http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html)
Casey Calls 911 When Protesters Get Violent Outside House
FIRST AMENDMENT DOESN'T MEAN NO PROTESTING RESTRICTIONS
CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST
CAYLEE INVESTIGATION EXTENDS TO CALIFORNIA
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:20 PM
YOur attitude is really ugly, and you have no idea how or what they fel or think. Just saying.
maybe they are one of those horrible people on public assistance who have no jobs and don't raise their children correctly that you feel so free to judge
(hope they didn't get too close to you)
OneUp
09-18-2008, 06:21 PM
The call needs to be listened to as the transcript would not indicated redacted portions.
Reason for the two questions of "who are you" is that the first question was asked by the original 911 person (woman), then a man gets on later, and he asks. Both times response is redacted.SS, thank you for pointing that out. I missed the shift, & thought both operators were on when she was asked for her name.
I appreciate youdrawing that to my attention!:)
So, in fact it was Casey for certain and she did identify herself on the phone.
...sorry, I am catching up!
MoonHarvest
09-18-2008, 06:21 PM
FGS, the villagers weren't charging the property with flaming torches to capture the monster and destroy her. If it's true, they threw 23 cents. Yeah, I'd go out and confront them for that:rolleyes: Stupid is as stupid does. The Anthonys are acting stupidly, unless of course they realized they were in no real danger because they, in fact, have paid these pretend protesters. Yeah, that's what I'm beginning to think. It's the only thing that makes sense. JMO.
It's become like a Jerry Springer show gone wrong. :read:
bchand
09-18-2008, 06:22 PM
Is there a link of JB picking up Casey in a huff? Pls
Someone else may have posted it already, but here it is:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US
crymeariver2006
09-18-2008, 06:22 PM
She is quite a gem isn't she?
Now I know that these protesters lastnight were there to cause problems and they are doing more than protesting. BUT as was just stated on Headline news by an attorney and a psychologist. The Anthony's should allow the authorites to do their job and they should not be confronting and arguing with these people who claim to be protesting when they start doing something wrong or illegal..
Everyone i talk to see the WRONG on both sides from the protesters and the Anthony's. I agree with Nejame. This has got to stop.
The Anthony's and the UNpeaceful protesters. IMO
Good to see ya
Well the thing is....every time the Anthonys allow police to do their job, it seems Casey gets arrested.
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 06:22 PM
She didn't mention rednecks or fat people............yet. hammer
Hey, my mom had to go on pa when dad left. All of her kids and grandkids are present and accounted for.
unlike someother family's child, Caylee.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:22 PM
hey leave me out of this
:lol:You crazy, girl!!
mosey2
09-18-2008, 06:23 PM
FGS, the villagers weren't charging the property with flaming torches to capture the monster and destroy her. If it's true, they threw 23 cents. Yeah, I'd go out and confront them for that:rolleyes: Stupid is as stupid does. The Anthonys are acting stupidly, unless of course they realized they were in no real danger because they, in fact, have paid these pretend protesters. Yeah, that's what I'm beginning to think. It's the only thing that makes sense. JMO.
What's with the 23 cents reference y'all are posting? Did the protesters really throw 23 cents? If there were a dozen of them, they were contributing their 2 cents worth?
That one vocal guy was only worth 1/2 a thought, I guess
tiny paw-prints
09-18-2008, 06:23 PM
Thank You for the link.
Did the leak of Melich's injury first originate from another board or a media telecast? TIA
I was going to ask the same question. I'd really like to know the answer. I read in this morning's thread that Melich was hurt while riding his motorcycle. And the article link (4:08pm) was recently posted.
CinTN
09-18-2008, 06:23 PM
FGS, the villagers weren't charging the property with flaming torches to capture the monster and destroy her. If it's true, they threw 23 cents. Yeah, I'd go out and confront them for that:rolleyes: Stupid is as stupid does. The Anthonys are acting stupidly, unless of course they realized they were in no real danger because they, in fact, have paid these pretend protesters. Yeah, that's what I'm beginning to think. It's the only thing that makes sense. JMO.
Maybe next time they should throw gift cards... less damage :biggrin: but thats JMO
EGirl
09-18-2008, 06:23 PM
She is quite a gem isn't she?
Now I know that these protesters lastnight were there to cause problems and they are doing more than protesting. BUT as was just stated on Headline news by an attorney and a psychologist. The Anthony's should allow the authorites to do their job and they should not be confronting and arguing with these people who claim to be protesting when they start doing something wrong or illegal..
Everyone i talk to see the WRONG on both sides from the protesters and the Anthony's. I agree with Nejame. This has got to stop.
The Anthony's and the UNpeaceful protesters. IMO
Good to see ya
Hi Rebel..... this will all end when Casey goes back to jail.
:rose: Where is CAYLEE?
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:23 PM
Thats was a horrible post. You just slammed many people with your hate filled post. Many people need help and just because there is someone protesting doesnt mean they are jobless. And sweetie you have no clue as to how they raise their children...BUT we DO know how the Anthonys raised theirs dont we?
How did the Anthonys raise Casey and Lee? DO tell us ALL ABOUT IT. Exactly, in minute detail. Lets hear it. Tell us every single thing about G&C's child rearing philosophy.
Those protesters are taking their children to a situation that is volatile and has resulted in violence and serious threats before. That is the physical and psychological danger the children are in. They are also taking them into an atmosphere of extreme hatred. That is emotional danger. In addition to that, instead of focusing on their children and going on with their lives, they are dragging their children into a story that is sick and evil, and may well be very frightening to the children. More abuse there, and they are probably doing it because they can't afford to hire a babysitter, becasue only the most drug addled, alcoholic, violent loser of a parent would think that standing outside the ANthony home all day and night, vandalizing their property, making physical threats against them and assaulting them IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN is a proper atmosphere for a child. I do understand that you disagree.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:23 PM
If Cindy got the tag number, they shouldn't have to hunt very far.
In fact, they should have already been in custody at dawn.
Of course she has the tag #, Casey said she did, so there.:tongue:
barskin&co.
09-18-2008, 06:24 PM
I suggest you study criminal law and constitutional law. The Anthonys have every right to protect their property. The protesters are criminals and they belong in jail. Looking at them on tv last night, I wondered how many of them have criminal records, have warrants on them or are on public assistance. They don't care about caylee. THis is just another chance to be what they are.
Is that anything like Caylee having every right to expect to be cared for and loved by her mother?
Is that anything like Caylee having every right to expect that the person whom I believe harmed her be brought to justice?
Is that anything like Caylee having every right to expect that her grandmother and grandfather step up to the plate and stop living in denial?
Yes, bless, you Blackbird! It has been 94 days! What about Caylee's rights?? Leslie, I am not saying you are wrong to recognize constitutional rights. We all do. But, a little perspective please.
kOOkie1
09-18-2008, 06:24 PM
...I was wondering if the water levels in Fla have come down any in the past few week..anyone know? Hoping the search can continue~
jammies
09-18-2008, 06:25 PM
is being on public assistance a crime :eek:
Yes, if they were driving an Expedition! :D
EGirl
09-18-2008, 06:26 PM
AMEN!!!!!
and I also must write this sentence cos the new board doesn't like posts w/ just one word..
Barefooted, I noticed that too.. but if you hit return a couple of times and just put a . (period) it will accept it.
happy2bme
09-18-2008, 06:26 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html (http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html)
It appears Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, botched his legal request to force detectives to stop testing evidence in the case.
Baez filed a motion with the Clerk of Court a week ago, asking for a halt to the lab testing being done by investigators to give him a chance to weigh in on how and where it's done. Baez claimed investigators might be more concerned with cost and expediency than they are about accuracy and fairness.
The legal merits of his motion have yet to be decided, because Baez blundered by not notifying the judge assigned to the case about his motion. Nor has he asked the judge for a hearing. So his motion sits in the clerk's office on the second floor of the courthouse going nowhere.
Anthony's trial for child neglect and lying to investigators is scheduled for November 17. Eyewitness News asked Baez's public relations firm whether he plans to ask for a hearing, but the firm has not returned the call.
Eyewitness News also learned that Baez was almost an hour late for the sentencing of his client, Nilton Diaz, in a Lake County child abuse death the day Anthony was released the first time. That same day, Baez shoved a reporter. He also kept the Lake County judge, the victim's family and witnesses waiting. When he arrived, he made no apology.
Baez also requested a special hearing the day before that, asking for a delay in Diaz's sentencing, telling the judge he expected the media to follow him to Lake County after Anthony's release and that it would be prejudicial to Anthony.
Lake County Circuit Judge Mark Nacke denied Baez's request for that delay. Baez ended up taking Casey back to her house the day she was released from jail before he headed to Lake County. No reporters followed him to Lake County that day.
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:27 PM
Its seems to be something looked down upon by this poster. I find that sad. A person who needs help shouldnt be made to feel like a disgrace.
Isnt' that ashame. Someone on assistance, who needed help and reached out to get it, should feel disgraced. But a lying, theiving, baby killing, tramp should be put on a pedestal and protected. I'm beginning to wonder just who needs help here. JMHO.
steffaroob4
09-18-2008, 06:27 PM
CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST (http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html)
It appears Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, botched his legal request to force detectives to stop testing evidence in the case.
Baez filed a motion with the Clerk of Court a week ago, asking for a halt to the lab testing being done by investigators to give him a chance to weigh in on how and where it's done. Baez claimed investigators might be more concerned with cost and expediency than they are about accuracy and fairness
The legal merits of his motion have yet to be decided, because Baez blundered by not notifying the judge assigned to the case about his motion. Nor has he asked the judge for a hearing. So his motion sits in the clerk's office on the second floor of the courthouse going nowhere
...:shrug:
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 06:27 PM
yes, bless, you blackbird! It has been 94 days! What about caylee's rights?? Leslie, i am not saying you are wrong to recognize constitutional rights. We all do. But, a little perspective please.
ita..........
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:27 PM
Depending on the velocity of the pebbles & the twenty three cents being thrown, I could see how some might believe twenty three cents & a few pebbles might indeed be considered weapons.
But most likely only on this very thread.
:flamemad: nickels are heavy, dude...
Brattnt
09-18-2008, 06:27 PM
Nor did she do a tooth count.
Dadgummit Say!....I now have soda all over my monitor....:lol:
Here is an updated link with some stories following
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html (http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html)
Casey Calls 911 When Protesters Get Violent Outside House
FIRST AMENDMENT DOESN'T MEAN NO PROTESTING RESTRICTIONS
CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST
CAYLEE INVESTIGATION EXTENDS TO CALIFORNIA
Baez is in so way over his head. Period. MOO.
farrahrani
09-18-2008, 06:27 PM
Hi Rebel..... this will all end when Casey goes back to jail.
:rose: Where is CAYLEE?
I think it will end when that mobile cam comes down, but thats just me, lol. IMO
CinTN
09-18-2008, 06:27 PM
How did the Anthonys raise Casey and Lee? DO tell us ALL ABOUT IT. Exactly, in minute detail. Lets hear it. Tell us every single thing about G&C's child rearing philosophy.
Those protesters are taking their children to a situation that is volatile and has resulted in violence and serious threats before. That is the physical and psychological danger the children are in. They are also taking them into an atmosphere of extreme hatred. That is emotional danger. In addition to that, instead of focusing on their children and going on with their lives, they are dragging their children into a story that is sick and evil, and may well be very frightening to the children. More abuse there, and they are probably doing it because they can't afford to hire a babysitter, becasue only the most drug addled, alcoholic, violent loser of a parent would think that standing outside the ANthony home all day and night, vandalizing their property, making physical threats against them and assaulting them IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN is a proper atmosphere for a child. I do understand that you disagree.
I agree its not right for the children to be there (under a certain age)
BUT
On the other hand, think of it as an educational lesson on the Constitutions First Amendment Right we are all born with... :patriot:
Margo555
09-18-2008, 06:28 PM
which is why the Anthony's keep provoking the protesters. It deflects the attention away from Caylee.
I think that's pretty obvious to anyone with common sense. They continue to not follow LE's instructions to stay inside and go out to either lay hands on people who are OFF of their property or yell expletives back in trade at people standing outside yelling at them. Anyone who is truly upset legitimately would follow LE's instructions and stay inside after calling for help and wait until they get there rather than going out and engaging them in front of cameras. I just wonder how much of this on either side would happen if the media wasn't there. MOO I also am not convinced that jail time is the normal punishment for throwing pennies against a garage door or pounding on said door even if it involves trespassing. I don't know for sure what the normal sentence is for those things, but I haven't seen anyone else who is against the protesters give a link to the normal outcome in those circumstances either. JMHO
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:28 PM
Maybe that's what's meant by "fighting words"?
:shrug:
Exactly. And of course my statement was not a slam agaisnt everyone on pa, only the ones who are out there protesting instead of raising their children. I do understand that some think that that is an acceptable activity for us to have to pay for.
EGirl
09-18-2008, 06:28 PM
How did the Anthonys raise Casey and Lee? DO tell us ALL ABOUT IT. Exactly, in minute detail. Lets hear it. Tell us every single thing about G&C's child rearing philosophy.
Those protesters are taking their children to a situation that is volatile and has resulted in violence and serious threats before. That is the physical and psychological danger the children are in. They are also taking them into an atmosphere of extreme hatred. That is emotional danger. In addition to that, instead of focusing on their children and going on with their lives, they are dragging their children into a story that is sick and evil, and may well be very frightening to the children. More abuse there, and they are probably doing it because they can't afford to hire a babysitter, becasue only the most drug addled, alcoholic, violent loser of a parent would think that standing outside the ANthony home all day and night, vandalizing their property, making physical threats against them and assaulting them IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN is a proper atmosphere for a child. I do understand that you disagree.
:rolleyes: At least they know where their child is.
IMO
The protestors should go home and Casey should go back to jail.
Regina.Lampert
09-18-2008, 06:28 PM
Here is an updated link with some stories following
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html (http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html)
Casey Calls 911 When Protesters Get Violent Outside House
FIRST AMENDMENT DOESN'T MEAN NO PROTESTING RESTRICTIONS
CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST
CAYLEE INVESTIGATION EXTENDS TO CALIFORNIA
LOVED the story of how baez botched the motion regarding the evidence. He is so out of his league and I am so glad he's the psyochopath's attorney.
mosey2
09-18-2008, 06:28 PM
It's become like a Jerry Springer show gone wrong. :read:
OMG! YouTube! I can see it, now. A collage of Anthony vs. protesters fights set to the tune of Elton John's "Saturday Night's Allright (for fighting):D
I will now go do 23 Hail Marys
oldbluesmith
09-18-2008, 06:28 PM
She didn't mention rednecks or fat people............yet. hammerAnd a good thing too.....or....I.....I.....I would have to take offense, really!!! :no:Geesh. I know this is late but I'm a slow reader. JMHO
shelbar53
09-18-2008, 06:28 PM
did ask earlier but think it got lost-someone mentioned jb looking cross when he collected casey-is there a link for it and if there is would somone kind pm me. Thanks
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:29 PM
I agree its not right for the children to be there (under a certain age)
BUT
On the other hand, think of it as an educational lesson on the Constitutions First Amendment Right we are all born with... :patriot:
Somehow I don't see anyone discussing the constitutional issues while pounding on the garage door and throwing things at the house. I could be wrong. It might be a new kind of law school.
EGirl
09-18-2008, 06:29 PM
...I was wondering if the water levels in Fla have come down any in the past few week..anyone know? Hoping the search can continue~
The outer bands of Ike dumped alot of water on Florida when it came across Cuba into the gulf.
Shellberry
09-18-2008, 06:29 PM
Thats was a horrible post. You just slammed many people with your hate filled post. Many people need help and just because there is someone protesting doesnt mean they are jobless. And sweetie you have no clue as to how they raise their children...BUT we DO know how the Anthonys raised theirs dont we?
I didnt read the original post, thank god.
but I was on assistance when my dauther was born-for her health ins.-I/we never accepted food stamps or housing or anything like that-we needed help for her to go to her doctor appts & get her shots.
my other halfs health ins-is weird, he works in a trade where you need so many hours a quarter to actually have ins.
if you dont meet the hours, that quarter--you dont get ins.
my daughter was a newborn at the time, and babies get a lot of shots/appts in their first months of life.
I dont down people for needing to use it if your state offers it--I do think though that there are people that take advantage of it.
The garage door incident was reported by Casey in her 911 call. But consider the source. Garage door looked fine to me when JB picked Casey up this morning.
you can see damage up close.
our car got pelted with hail not too long ago-yes, in FL- and you cant see the damage unless you are looking right upon it.
1/2 hour isnt unreasonable.
I lived across the road and down 1/2 a block from the fire station. I called them at 12:40 at night b/c my carbon monoxide detector was going off. I sat on my porch and waited. It took them 20 minutes to load the truck, personal and drive 2 minutes down the road.
1/2 hour isnt enough of a time delay to pin the LE with a "You dont care about the Anthonys" badge.
yes, see my other post.
it took the cops 37 mins. to get here--when they are less than 5 mins away.
It takes me 5 mins to get there walking.-not even
imo/jmo
WillowInFlight
09-18-2008, 06:30 PM
And a good thing too.....or....I.....I.....I would have to take offense, really!!! :no:Geesh. I know this is late but I'm a slow reader. JMHO
Well it's that time of day. It happens every day.
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 06:30 PM
:flamemad: nickels are heavy, dude...
I thought houses in Fla are supposed to be able to withstand hurricanes?
MoonHarvest
09-18-2008, 06:30 PM
:rolleyes: At least they know where their child is.
IMO
The protestors should go home and Casey should go back to jail.
{rolling santa}
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:30 PM
and all 23 cents were rounded up and hauled to the pokey for evidence
I wonder how much it's gonna cost the state to process that evidence. I surely hope LE is keeping track of the costs of all these 911 calls the Anthonys make to get rid of the protesters they most likely paid to be there. I'm pretty convinced they pay them because of Cindy's tirade and George's allegations about the media paying them, something along the lines of "I think thou doest protest too much." JMHO.
PS for DaddysGirl - I'd stop calling them pretent protesters and call them protesters on the Anthony payroll, PAP, for short. JMHO.
mosey2
09-18-2008, 06:31 PM
I think they threw three pennies, two nickels, & a dime.
And some pebbles. And they banged on the garage door.
Enough to take a bat to them it would seem.
LE will get 'em when they come back for the money tonight. They'll need it to buy a six pack
oldbluesmith
09-18-2008, 06:31 PM
...I was wondering if the water levels in Fla have come down any in the past few week..anyone know? Hoping the search can continue~ Yes, some water has receded east of Gainesville, FL in the swamp areas but there is still some standing, it has not come down in our lake here in Melrose, Thank the Lord. JMO:seeya:
WillowInFlight
09-18-2008, 06:31 PM
I thought houses in Fla are supposed to be able to withstand hurricanes?
You must not have ever lived in Florida.
cassidy
09-18-2008, 06:31 PM
It's become like a Jerry Springer show gone wrong. :read:
They could put Jerry Springer out of business. This is beyond ridiculous. On BOTH sides.
JMO
rosejustrose
09-18-2008, 06:31 PM
I was thinking the same thing, he would be on video assaulting a woman. I might take a punch for that too. But of course I am not living close to where this is happening,so of course I am big and brave:D
He's not out of the woods yet. There are assault charges pending against him, IMO.
witchywoman
09-18-2008, 06:31 PM
ot
my family, and freinds made it thru hurricane ike...oh wow, that storm rattled witchy's birdcage, lol...
We were lucky here at my house, lil gutter damage, lost back fence, but all is well, and all state ins. on the way..
lucky, we had gas generator, and powered 13 inch tv, deep freeze, ice box, and extended what lil power we had to neighbors..
6 days and no power, but had water, and gas stove...was like camping at koa, mo
so much of texas in turmoil, so many homeless, hungry, etc...so many with out homes...its surrreal...mo
i thank my goddess and mother nature that we made it thru...that our freinds and fam made it thru...
eta. we were in gas line, hours on waiting in line, and made it to gas pump, suddenly a guy weilding a knife was trying to rob some one else at pump, when the police officer shot and killed the man b4 my eyes, before my sons eyes...
real csi experience for me...shook us up...
ok, thank you for letting me be off topic...
now, i wanna thank everyone who has given links, etc..
im going to links thread, gonna play catch up...then play catch up here..
i wont be posting as ill be busy trying to catch up on the last week..
eta, i still chant and pray for Caylee...
now let me get my bifocals and get busy catching up..
dixie77
09-18-2008, 06:32 PM
nor did she do a tooth count.
========
rotfl
cuddlyrunner
09-18-2008, 06:32 PM
[QUOTE=shelbar53;12142850]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US
Oh Jb does look miffed :-)
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:32 PM
:rolleyes: At least they know where their child is.
IMO
The protestors should go home and Casey should go back to jail.
Yes and they are not acting responsibly. Casey's murder of Caylee doesnt mean they're doing right. In fact, their very judgement of the Anthonys in the face of their own criminal behavior makes them hypocrits of the first order and they"'re just looking for some excitement and a fight at the expense of Caylee. If the kids witness someone being killed, well thats a small price to pay for such self righteousness and personal gratification for violence.
Shells2
09-18-2008, 06:33 PM
LOVED the story of how baez botched the motion regarding the evidence. He is so out of his league and I am so glad he's the psyochopath's attorney.
I am too Regina! I can't wait till he finally realizes he is so out of his league and wipes that constant " i know something you don't know" smirk off his face.... IMO.
Boxer
09-18-2008, 06:33 PM
How did the Anthonys raise Casey and Lee? DO tell us ALL ABOUT IT. Exactly, in minute detail. Lets hear it. Tell us every single thing about G&C's child rearing philosophy.
Those protesters are taking their children to a situation that is volatile and has resulted in violence and serious threats before. That is the physical and psychological danger the children are in. They are also taking them into an atmosphere of extreme hatred. That is emotional danger. In addition to that, instead of focusing on their children and going on with their lives, they are dragging their children into a story that is sick and evil, and may well be very frightening to the children. More abuse there, and they are probably doing it because they can't afford to hire a babysitter, becasue only the most drug addled, alcoholic, violent loser of a parent would think that standing outside the ANthony home all day and night, vandalizing their property, making physical threats against them and assaulting them IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN CHILDREN is a proper atmosphere for a child. I do understand that you disagree.
it's also psychologically damaging to make children feel superior or inferior based on the thickness of a wallet
JMO
steffaroob4
09-18-2008, 06:33 PM
LOVED the story of how baez botched the motion regarding the evidence. He is so out of his league and I am so glad he's the psyochopath's attorney.
He is a winner.
Eyewitness News also learned that Baez was almost an hour late for the sentencing of his client, Nilton Diaz, in a Lake County child abuse death the day Anthony was released the first time. That same day, Baez shoved a reporter. He also kept the Lake County judge, the victim's family and witnesses waiting. When he arrived, he made no apology.
EGirl
09-18-2008, 06:33 PM
:flamemad: nickels are heavy, dude...
*spew* :lol:
LeslieK
09-18-2008, 06:33 PM
[QUOTE=shelbar53;12142850]http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US
Oh Jb does look miffed :-)
Wonder what he's found out.
irishkitty24
09-18-2008, 06:34 PM
You must not have ever lived in Florida.
Nope, have visited but could not live there. I need the change of seasons.
but seriously, coins damaged the house? really?
CinTN
09-18-2008, 06:34 PM
Somehow I don't see anyone discussing the constitutional issues while pounding on the garage door and throwing things at the house. I could be wrong. It might be a new kind of law school.
I did not say anything about going on their property :read: Nope,, I was replying about the children being there.. :no:
Heyes
09-18-2008, 06:34 PM
I think they threw three pennies, two nickels, & a dime.
And some pebbles. And they banged on the garage door.
Enough to take a bat to them it would seem.
Yup, a bat. Cindy seems to be amping up her weapons of choice. What's next?
They had a choice, common sense and the police told her to stay in the house. Unless the protesters were trying to get in the house she had no reason to pick up the bat let alone go outside. NONE.
cassidy
09-18-2008, 06:34 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US
OOOPS. He doesn't look like a happy camper does he? Maybe he's tired of hanging out all day with Casey while she plays on the internet?
trich
09-18-2008, 06:34 PM
:flamemad: nickels are heavy, dude...
:lol::lol:
Shellberry
09-18-2008, 06:35 PM
I thought houses in Fla are supposed to be able to withstand hurricanes?
I did not say anything about going on their property :read: Nope,, I was replying about the children being there.. :no:
the public was warned about having children there while protesting by the dcs
I hope something comes of this.
imo/jmo
When the murder trial happens, I highly doubt Baez will be Caseys lawyer, just a feeling, and no its not because hes going to have been caught doing some exploratory evidence with Casey. moo
ITA. I would think NeJame or whatever the name is of the GPs lawyer is advising them to tell Casey to dump Baez. Of course it would be Casey's decision soooooo anything is possible.
MOO
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