Thursday Afternoon/Early Evening Caylee Discussion

[Brattnt]

He really looks like a nice man to me. He is being pushed to the brink, and yes... I know that he cannot fathom that his daughter has probably killed his grand-daughter, but that does not make him a bad guy in my opinion.
He is trying to protect his family. Obviously, he needs to get his wife to stop going outside to confront the protestors. He needs to stop doing that too, but, he's a man, and men protect their family and their homes.

If, when Caylee is found, and it is determined that Casey had something to do with it, I really think he'll lose it. That is when he should have absolutely no access to a gun.

*I really think the Anthony's should think about staying elsewhere for awhile. They can't keep going through this kind of thing day in and day out.

I honestly hope that the judge signs something for the homeowners of this community so that they can get some rest too.

I mean shesh, what's going to happen next? Is someone going to do a drive by shoot up the neighborhood thing?

I truly do not see anything "funny" about all of this. We are watching a family be destroyed-whether it's their fault or not, it is a very sad thing. IMO
I have no sympathy at all for him...I think he knows exactly what happened to Caylee, and has known every since he opened up the trunk of her car on June 24th....

MOO

[desmom]

Could you please give me the link to this so I can see it? Thank you


The uncut version http://www.wesh.com/video/17504755/index.html

[happy2bme]

What the heck are we looking at on web cam 2?

looks like the inside of an ice chest

[crymeariver2006]

I notice in that report that Cindy said she saw about 14 people standing in her front yard. Why is it when we look at the videos that the media have provided there only seems to be about 6 very unruly young people? (I'm guessing that those kids put a bit of "liquid courage" in their bellies before they went out there.)

Maybe Cindy had some of that "liquid courage" herself and was seeing double?

[jammies]

It looks like the inside of a cooler, now I know what the beer always see :D


OMG LOLOL!!!


Maybe Cindy threw the camera in there?

[SavannahStar]

Actually, the discussion was when and if he would bail out on them if their ridiculous behavior continues...I was a part of the discussion. Very professional of HIm IMO. I have seen no reason not to think highly of his professionalism thus far.
JMO.

No, I'm pretty sure I read something just this morning (paraphrased), "I get the feeling he is no longer their attorney" or something like that....these threads move so fast and are so huge, no sense in doing a search though. Not that important.

I think NeJames is doing an excellent job.

[housemaid25]

I missed the video of Baez picking up Casey. If there is one, could someone please give me the link. Thank you.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

[nana6]

What the heck are we looking at on web cam 2?

Who knows!!! Web cam 1 is a lovely view of some people having lunch!!! So, I guess we have no web cam now

[steffaroob4]

OMG, I am sooo stupid, I have been reading the fake work emails from casey's computer.

Comparing the names with her fellow high school classmayes and it was interesting that the one co-worker was last name Marsh, matching someone from her graduating class, so I am looking at another email addy and it says trusciano775@yahoo.com hammer
docs page 412, email dated April 18th, 08

Sound familiar?
trusciano775@yahoo.com
Deputy Anthony Rusciano

[emanondeeni]

I have to admit that this latest incident, especially Casey's 911 call is pure gravy to me. The prosecution will love entering this into evidence IMO. It is like a gift from God!
I won't berate even the worst demonstrators and mischeif makers now...they have given this gem to LE. ( An exception for the ones who bring children.:flamemad:...no babies near the idiocy and violence please!)

Remember yesterday, talking about WHY Casey is wise not to give an interview or even make a taped plea ? ( lack of affect, getting"trpped" in her statements, etc.)....She has just done exactly that in these calls. Her own words will prove her to be perfectly capable of recalling details accurately, feeling fear "normally" and displaying emotion in response to stimulus.
LOL, Gotcha Casey!
JMO.

She identified herself as *the resident* so if the prosecution is going to use the tape, they'll have to have it authenticated as her voice....otherwise JB can say that's not his girl on that tape. imo

[CuriousJ]

The above strengthens my opinion that George definitely has something to do with the disposal of Caylee's body.

IMO.

I am in agreement - I have felt since the Anthony's did their in-home interview with Greta Van Susteren that George helped Casey dispose of poor little Caylee's body. His agonizingly detailed story of finding the gas cans in Casey's trunk, IMO, was really a story about finding Caylee's body in that trunk.

Of course, this is just a theory. I'd like to hear more of your suspicions of GA, as well, if you care to share. Thanks.

[kitty1182]

Could i have the link to cam please?:)

[nana6]

Does anyone have a link I may go to to see the water fight in the driveway last night?

[crymeariver2006]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US


Ruh-roh, looks like trouble in paradise. He just slings the door open and walks on over to the other side, then drives off like a bat outta h#ll.

Must not be any brownies today.

:shrug:

[Broderick]

OMG, I am sooo stupid, I have been reading the fake work emails from casey's computer.

Comparing the names with her fellow high school classmayes and it was interesting that the one co-worker was last name Marsh, matching someone from her graduating class, so I am looking at another email addy and it says trusciano775@yahoo.com hammer
docs page 412, email dated April 18th, 08

Sound familiar?
trusciano775@yahoo.com
Deputy Anthony Rusciano


Explain a bit more... I am familiar with Rusciano I think. Wasn't he the one that quit the force about the same time?

[WillowInFlight]

I am in agreement - I have felt since the Anthony's did their in-home interview with Greta Van Susteren that George helped Casey dispose of poor little Caylee's body. His agonizingly detailed story of finding the gas cans in Casey's trunk, IMO, was really a story about finding Caylee's body in that trunk.

Of course, this is just a theory. I'd like to hear more of your suspicions of GA, as well, if you care to share. Thanks.
We were talking about this late last night, when George took the stand Casey was almost hysterical with her crying, George was even choking up, after a few minutes she gave George a smile, I said last night to me it looked like a "thank you dad" smile.

[bcrmom]

It looks like the inside of a cooler, now I know what the beer always see :D


:lol:

If Cindy gets thirsty and starts looking for her bottle water, BOY, are they going to be in twubble!

WTHeck are they trying to hide the cam now? What's that about? We had Gutter Cam, then Chassis Cam, now Cooler Cam? I'm not getting the reasoning behing hiding it, unLESS they're afraid Cindy the Hammer will decide to go all Hammer Time on it if she sees it.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/images/smilies/bash.gif

[Broderick]

She identified herself as *the resident* so if the prosecution is going to use the tape, they'll have to have it authenticated as her voice....otherwise JB can say that's not his girl on that tape. imo

Well, didn't she say my mom and dad are going outside? How many daughters do they have?

[Acorn]

OMG, I am sooo stupid, I have been reading the fake work emails from casey's computer.

Comparing the names with her fellow high school classmayes and it was interesting that the one co-worker was last name Marsh, matching someone from her graduating class, so I am looking at another email addy and it says trusciano775@yahoo.com hammer
docs page 412, email dated April 18th, 08

Sound familiar?
trusciano775@yahoo.com
Deputy Anthony Rusciano

Email the A's and let them know this latest find in the name game.

I wish I could interrogate Casey. I really, really do.

[Cury-us Coyote]

OMG, I am sooo stupid, I have been reading the fake work emails from casey's computer.

Comparing the names with her fellow high school classmayes and it was interesting that the one co-worker was last name Marsh, matching someone from her graduating class, so I am looking at another email addy and it says trusciano775@yahoo.com hammer
docs page 412, email dated April 18th, 08

Sound familiar?
trusciano775@yahoo.com
Deputy Anthony Rusciano

Ding Ding ding

[crymeariver2006]

OMG, I am sooo stupid, I have been reading the fake work emails from casey's computer.

Comparing the names with her fellow high school classmayes and it was interesting that the one co-worker was last name Marsh, matching someone from her graduating class, so I am looking at another email addy and it says trusciano775@yahoo.com hammer
docs page 412, email dated April 18th, 08

Sound familiar?
trusciano775@yahoo.com
Deputy Anthony Rusciano

:eek:

What does that email say?

[nana6]

We were talking about this late last night, when George took the stand Casey was almost hysterical with her crying, George was even choking up, after a few minutes she gave George a smile, I said last night to me it looked like a "thank you dad" smile.

OMG she is going to take him down with her!!!

[Acorn]

Does anyone know if the twenty three cents was kept by law enforcement as evidence?

Or can it go towards Casey's defense?

Each coin is being processed for prints and DNA. ;)

[Brattnt]

Could i have the link to cam please?:)
Here ya go Kitty!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[WillowInFlight]

Ruh-roh, looks like trouble in paradise. He just slings the door open and walks on over to the other side, then drives off like a bat outta h#ll.

Must not be any brownies today.

:shrug:
Hmmm no hand holding.

[Anakerie]

Maybe Cindy had some of that "liquid courage" herself and was seeing double?
Or exaggerating (again!) to get the cops out there faster. She has been known to do that.. (Remember the 911 calls back at the beginning of all this?)

[kakax]

Hmm. No touchy-wouchy. And he walked well in front of her.

Wonder if he's getting the message?

Wow, he seems pizzed!!

[crymeariver2006]

Explain a bit more... I am familiar with Rusciano I think. Wasn't he the one that quit the force about the same time?


No, fired because he lied about having a "relationship" with her.

[beetlebrow]

OMG, I am sooo stupid, I have been reading the fake work emails from casey's computer.

Comparing the names with her fellow high school classmayes and it was interesting that the one co-worker was last name Marsh, matching someone from her graduating class, so I am looking at another email addy and it says trusciano775@yahoo.com hammer
docs page 412, email dated April 18th, 08

Sound familiar?
trusciano775@yahoo.com
Deputy Anthony Rusciano

This was discussed when the 400 page doc first came out. I believe this is how LE found out about him.

[nana6]

Remember we have to play nice today everyone!! We all have a right to our opinions and it is not for anyone to belittle any elses posts. We are simply here for a discussion about Caylee Marie:rose:

[desmom]

I notice in that report that Cindy said she saw about 14 people standing in her front yard. Why is it when we look at the videos that the media have provided there only seems to be about 6 very unruly young people? (I'm guessing that those kids put a bit of "liquid courage" in their bellies before they went out there.)

Cindy likes to stretch the truth? Double vision?

[Ellie]

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Where did you hear this? I' ve been wading through the *** protestor posts trying to find real information and it is lost in all the posts concerning protestors, very frustrating.................

I've been waiting since whatever time it was announced this morning and have seen nothing (unless they're counting last nights disturbance at the Anthony home 'surprising').

Personally I think we're (as in those of us here, posters....) giving these 'protestors' wayyyyy too much of our attention and energy.

[crymeariver2006]

Each coin is being processed for prints and DNA. ;)

:D

Were the police wearing gloves?

[dixie77]

IDK...:shrug:

Do you recall where you heard that? I haven't heard any reference to his friend...???

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Someone on this board had said it. We were talking about who the dad (of Caylee) could be and someone had mentioned this guy. They said he had came down from somewhere and he was a friend of Lee.

[rosejustrose]

Right up to the time Caylee was born.

And the rift began between Casey & her parents.

Now that Casey has gotten rid of Caylee, she seems to be daddy's little girl once again.

IMO.

IIRC, not too long after Caylee was born the Anthonys filed for divorce. Maybe the rift was a little bit more widespread than just Casey and her parents. IMO.

[kitty1182]

Here ya go Kitty!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Thanks..:seeya:

[desmom]

Yeah, I understood your post and I had already made the photo comparison. I just didn't understand the intro of "Annie" by OneUp. Annie Downing is not listed as a classmate in the Colonial HS link, but Mark Hawkins is.

Also, IIRC, there is AnnaMarie Chase who has been speculated to be Mark's mother who ran into Casey at Target on July 10th.

Is there verification that FBI accompanied LE to California, or is that merely a rumor at this point?

http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html

FBI agents and Orange County sheriff's detectives plan to extend the Casey Anthony investigation to California.

[OneUp]

Yeah, I understood your post and I had already made the photo comparison. I just didn't understand the intro of "Annie" by OneUp. Annie Downing is not listed as a classmate in the Colonial HS link, but Mark Hawkins is.

Also, IIRC, there is AnnaMarie Chase who has been speculated to be Mark's mother who ran into Casey at Target on July 10th.

Is there verification that FBI accompanied LE to California, or is that merely a rumor at this point?tiny, I have clarified...I did not originally bring Annies Mysapce link in, I quoted the OP and laughed a bit that she (annie) was suggesting she was going to "cali" as the LE is going there ( coincidental AFAIK).
She was a friend of Casey's per Casey's Myspace before it went private and much was deleted, and I believe the ball cap found in the Anthony's trash by Loraine WAS Annies. I'll find the Pics. tonight is you want , but the cap in the trash and the one on her head are identical down to the wear on the bill...except the one in the trash was more damaged. My thought is that Casey may have damaged/tossed it because Annie has "betrayed" her.
IDK how long they were friends, thus asking about HS, I do know there are many pics. of them partying together, inc. Casey's 21st B-day.
Padilla stated that Annie lived at the Sawgrass apts. I haven't
verified and don't remember that.
What this all means? IDK...just information to consider.

JMO...I can gather links tonight, but I am holding my toddler & it's hard to type, etc. I know they have all been posted here before. If you would like to, PM me and I'll collect them into one post for you.

[margaritaville]

Hmmm no hand holding.



I could not imagine being his wife and when he comes home from "work" and ya ask "honey how was your day? I saw you and Casey on TV again holding hands and wispering in her ear".....barf

[5boxersmom]

We were talking about this late last night, when George took the stand Casey was almost hysterical with her crying, George was even choking up, after a few minutes she gave George a smile, I said last night to me it looked like a "thank you dad" smile.

Yep I agreed with you last night too. He knows. I think all the Anthony's do now.
jmo


Caylee:rose:

[kitty1182]

:d

were the police wearing gloves?

lol....lol...

[Anakerie]

Does anyone have a link I may go to to see the water fight in the driveway last night?

I've got a copy of the hosing uploaded to YouTube... It's "processing" right now... lol..

As soon as it says it's available, I'll post a link.. :D

[OneUp]

Well, she is the resident. Why should her name make a difference? Would someone else's name prompt a different response? Maybe Casey thinks it would.When you report something to the police, you are expected to give your name as you are considered a witness.
Normal operating procedure...that I do know.

[crymeariver2006]

Wasn't constitution day yesterday?
:shrug:

Is it customary to throw coins on Constitution Day?

We usually just exchange gifts.

:shrug:

[steffaroob4]

Explain a bit more... I am familiar with Rusciano I think. Wasn't he the one that quit the force about the same time?
He was the deputy fired for Kicking it with Casey and lying about their relationship to LE.

I wonder when she met him, this whole thing with the names is so interesting.

CASEY MAY HAVE MADE UP NAMES (http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html)

Eyewitness News has learned Casey Anthony might have made up the name of Caylee's so-called nanny, Zenaida Gonzalez, from former classmates' names and the street name for a drug. Investigators are now looking into it because of Eyewitness News' questions...

Eyewitness News has discovered that a girl named Zenaida was in Casey's homeroom at Colonial High School before Casey dropped out. She had a different last name, not Gonzalez, but there were seven students in her class whose last name is Gonzalez.

The names Casey has made up as her friends who introduced her to Zenaida also show up in her Colonial High School classmates roster. She named a Raquel Ferrell, who investigators say does not exist, but there was a Raquel Rosa in her class. Casey also named Jennifer Rosa as a friend whom investigators can't find. She had a classmate named James Ferrell and the name Jennifer shows up close by.

Investigators are now checking into it to find out whether it's more than just a series of coincidences.

[StickyBeak]

It does make one wonder...I wouldn't hire that hot head!
JMO

Some mention of him having his own business, perhaps heresay, but I looked anyway. Seems he is licensed, best be careful, think if he is charged with any crime, felony, he might lose his license.

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/LicWebSrchInd.exe?TYPE=INDIVIDUAL&CATEGORY=&COUNTY=00&LICENSE=D%202121968&STATUS=IND_DETAIL

Supposedly he worked for a firm in Orlando back when Caylee went missing,

[Broderick]

Seemed like her attorney was NOT so pleased with her.

I don't think she was supposed to make that 911 call.

Oh dear, SLAM.


Well, he is probably one of those that can't seem to find fault in his own circle like the rest of the family. He was supposed to have bodyguards there for her I thought, or did Cindy have a problem with black bodyguards since she seems to dislike Spanish folks from what I read.

[bcrmom]

Well, didn't she say my mom and dad are going outside? How many daughters do they have?


One too many.

[Acorn]

:D

Were the police wearing gloves?

ummmm...socks on their hands, maybe
:shrug:

[desmom]

Who knows!!! Web cam 1 is a lovely view of some people having lunch!!! So, I guess we have no web cam now

Their food has to be cold. They have been there since early this morning.

[dixie77]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

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Did u see how JB popped that open for Casey and didnt wait for her to get in the car? He must be pissed. JMO

[happy2bme]

Remember we have to play nice today everyone!! We all have a right to our opinions and it is not for anyone to belittle any elses posts. We are simply here for a discussion about Caylee Marie:rose:


Thanks Nana! Seems some just can't control themselves.

I pray we have news before the weekend.

[trt]

I believe you're mistaken.

Absolutely no reason to take out a part of the tape where Casey says her name.

Casey never gave her name. Period.

She says she's 'the resident.'



There also isn't a reason to take out where she (or Cindy, can't remember which one right now) gives the address, but as she starts, you can hear the tape going silent and the address is never revealed. JMO

[farrahrani]

Well, didn't she say my mom and dad are going outside? How many daughters do they have?


Good lord...I can see it now...defense claiming it was Lee, after he had been playing with helium balloons... :punch:

[rosejustrose]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

Oh my, Jose seemed mightily ticked off, IMO. See the way he just tossed opened Casey's door and walked about five feet in front of her. I'm sure there was some angry discussions going on today. JMO.

[WillowInFlight]

Yep I agreed with you last night too. He knows. I think all the Anthony's do now.
jmo


Caylee:rose:

I do too, someone posted a link to a picture where Casey and Lee were high fiving at the jail.:rolleyes:

[hamebone]

Yep I agreed with you last night too. He knows. I think all the Anthony's do now.
jmo


Caylee:rose:



I dont know for sure BUT it made me think and you might be right....when he said to reporters...the body in the trunk was not my granddaughter...it made me wonder.. did he see a body....:shrug:

[Acorn]

Is it customary to throw coins on Constitution Day?

We usually just exchange gifts.

:shrug:

I threw a penny at someone from a balcony.

[Ellie]

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Where did you hear this? I' ve been wading through the *** protestor posts trying to find real information and it is lost in all the posts concerning protestors, very frustrating.................

:lol:

If Cindy gets thirsty and starts looking for her bottle water, BOY, are they going to be in twubble!

WTHeck are they trying to hide the cam now? What's that about? We had Gutter Cam, then Chassis Cam, now Cooler Cam? I'm not getting the reasoning behing hiding it, unLESS they're afraid Cindy the Hammer will decide to go all Hammer Time on it if she sees it.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/images/smilies/bash.gif

I would if it were me. Not to defend the Anthony's, but if that were me and if that were my house? Not only would I start building a 15 foot fence all the way around my house, I would use a hammer, a bat, a football, whatever I could to knock those cameras out of the trees.

[Elle]

I have a hard time believing George when he said Casey showed up with the gas cans in her trunk.

I think he straight up lied about that. I don't believe Casey was there at all.

According to George, Casey showed up at the house between 2:25 and 2:30 on the 24th. At 2:40, Casey posted this message on Facebook

Casey Anthony (Orlando, FL) wrote
at 2:40pm on June 24th, 2008
she still has yet to move into the house. hell, in the past 9 days, i haven't even been living at the house. DRAMMMMMA. i'll fill ya in later on.
miss ya, yo.

I wonder what the IP address (correct term) is on that?

imo, moo

[steffaroob4]

:eek:

What does that email say?


It was just a fake email about the battle of the bands.

[FrankieBones1]

An Open Letter to the Anthony Family

Don't know if this has been posted already. It is posted in the Orlando Sentinel Forum. Post #10.

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TE9RF20055LHRBFFU

Mr. Pug's post was well done. Have you looked at post #23 yet?

[farrahrani]

There also isn't a reason to take out where she (or Cindy, can't remember which one right now) gives the address, but as she starts, you can hear the tape going silent and the address is never revealed. JMO


When the FIRST time her name is requested, Casey says ''hold on'' then pauses and says something then she begins talking normally again.

The operator asks her a SECOND time who she is IMO, she would not need to if Casey had identified herself the first time. Then she gave her identity as "The Resident"

I called 911 twice in my life, and was only asked my identity once during each call. Once I gave it, it was not requested again.

[dixie77]

Originally Posted by LandSharkII©
You'd have to ask Casey that question. She obviously believes her name would make a difference.

Hence the fact that she does not state her name in the 911 call.

IMO.

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U know..........i really didnt think too much about why she didnt mention her own name. How could Casey have thought that far ahead? Geesh......this is too weird.

[desmom]

Ruh-roh, looks like trouble in paradise. He just slings the door open and walks on over to the other side, then drives off like a bat outta h#ll.

Must not be any brownies today.

:shrug:

He definitely looks miffed. Maybe he is upset because he did not know when he went to law school he would have to be a cab driver, too. jmo

[OneUp]

She identified herself as *the resident* so if the prosecution is going to use the tape, they'll have to have it authenticated as her voice....otherwise JB can say that's not his girl on that tape. imoJust curious, who else do you think he will suggest is in their home, at 1:00a.m. with every coming and going recorded on camera 24/7...Mary Poppins who dropped down the chimney with Santa? Cindy and George are outside plainly inview of the news cameras. I don't think it is hard to prove that is Casey on the phone at all. Should he even try to challenge it, Casey has such a distinctive voice and speech pattern that verification shall be a cinch.
IMO.

[jammies]

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Did u see how JB popped that open for Casey and didnt wait for her to get in the car? He must be pissed. JMO



WHOA! Just watched it. There's trouble abrewing...

[Celiarun]

I dont know for sure BUT it made me think and you might be right....when he said to reporters...the body in the trunk was not my granddaughter...it made me wonder did he saw a body....:shrug:

I wondered the same thing. In the interview he had with Greta, he gave much unnecessary detail such as the fact he intended to rotate tires so he needed something in that trunk. I don't believe it was just gas cans that he found, I think he also found Caylee's body.

[crymeariver2006]

I threw a penny at someone from a balcony.

Does it mean good luck for them the rest of the year if they get hit?

:D

[Regina.Lampert]

Who are you?

"I'm the resident"

Casey Anthony, candidate for Resident of United States. :patriot:

Yeah, resident evil. :mad:

[steffaroob4]

This was discussed when the 400 page doc first came out. I believe this is how LE found out about him.

I can't believe I missed that,hammer

[101Spots]

"I absolutely will, but they need to hurry up," Anthony said. "They were…they just left not that long ago."


http://www.local6.com/news/17505245/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

:)

Caylee:rose:

Catching up here. Note that Casey saw *no weapon*. Guess she missed Cindy stepping up to the plate.

[dixie77]

When the FIRST time her name is requested, Casey says ''hold on'' then pauses and says something then she begins talking normally again.

The operator asks her a SECOND time who she is IMO, she would not need to if Casey had identified herself the first time. Then she gave her identity as "The Resident"

I called 911 twice in my life, and was only asked my identity once during each call. Once I gave it, it was not requested again.
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How in the h*** did Casey think that far in advance? (as a reasoning to not give her name)

[WillowInFlight]

He definitely looks miffed. Maybe he is upset because he did not know when he went to law school he would have to be a cab driver, too. jmo
specially with the price of gas, and some saying he is doing this pro bono.

[SavannahStar]

You'd have to ask Casey that question. She obviously believes her name would make a difference.

Hence the fact that she does not state her name in the 911 call.

IMO.

A logical belief on her part.

I listened to that audiotape now at least four times, and it's clear that both her address and her name are blocked out of the call. The addy right in the beginning of the tape, and her name about 43 seconds into the tape. She DOES state address and name; it is redacted.

[bcrmom]

I wondered the same thing. In the interview he had with Greta, he gave much unnecessary detail such as the fact he intended to rotate tires so he needed something in that trunk. I don't believe it was just gas cans that he found, I think he also found Caylee's body.


Yeah, and up until that point, the A's were denying that there WERE any results showing a body being in there, and if there were results, they were wrong. Why the sudden backflip? Out of rage, he let it slip? Sort of?

[SavannahStar]

Is there a link to the audio of the 911 call? :seeya:

http://www.wesh.com/news/17501869/detail.html

[Snoopy50]

I wondered the same thing. In the interview he had with Greta, he gave much unnecessary detail such as the fact he intended to rotate tires so he needed something in that trunk. I don't believe it was just gas cans that he found, I think he also found Caylee's body.
Agree:patriot:

[5boxersmom]

I dont know for sure BUT it made me think and you might be right....when he said to reporters...the body in the trunk was not my granddaughter...it made me wonder.. did he see a body....:shrug:

Yeah, he went into to much detail with the whole gas can story. And Cindy was so nervous. Maybe he was trying to explain why his fingerprints will show up on the trunk when Casey hadn't been around for over a month?

jmo


Caylee:rose:

[OneUp]

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Someone on this board had said it. We were talking about who the dad (of Caylee) could be and someone had mentioned this guy. They said he had came down from somewhere and he was a friend of Lee.TY for the reply dixie!

[FrankieBones1]

He really looks like a nice man to me. He is being pushed to the brink, and yes... I know that he cannot fathom that his daughter has probably killed his grand-daughter, but that does not make him a bad guy in my opinion.((snipped))

That doesn't make anyone a bad person. I think it's how he has handled issues is what makes it less easy to feel for him.

[farrahrani]

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How in the h*** did Casey think that far in advance? (as a reasoning to not give her name)


Casey doesn't strike me as someone who can think on her feet too fast, she relies on her own ''scripts'' and alibis, which is why other posters picked up on her errors in the police interviews, when she was explaining the phones, one given from a job they had already caught her in a lie in. She couldn't deviate from that script, even though she had been caught.

I don't think she was thinking in advance, she struck me as someone who had a guilty tone in her voice and was trying to hide her identity, out of guilt or fear of being recognized, IMO.

My kids have the same tone when I am asking how did the wall suddenly get marker all over it, and they start stalling for answers, lol

[Shellberry]

This is a little thing that shouldn't bug me, but it does.

On that 911 call of Casey's, she keeps saying "our house",,,"our residence"...."I'm the resident."

It's her parent's house......her parent's residence..............It's not "her house"

I know,,, it's a little thing. But it still bugs me.

My own trivial opinion of course
man-I noticed that in her jailhouse call(s)-when lee said his phone cut out because of the reception-she said 'its my house I know'
and then in another jailhouse call- she again said 'my house'
interesting.

I wish the judge would rescind the home detention, its obviously out of control and dangerous. Don't the Anthonys have any regard for the neighbors? Oh, why did I ask that.LOL

Next his neighbors he has "known for 19 years" are going to come over and beat them silly.
regard for the neighbors? imo, the what the protesters do, has nothing to do directly with the anthonys-they cant control the protesters.


and now it looks to be raining really hard.
the webcam I have up has a nice scene of people at a bar, lol

Orange County Cmdr. Rick Luckey's statement -

"Luckey said the protesters could have charges filed against them because they were the primary aggressors.

"[George Anthony] has the right to protect himself and his property," Luckey said. "He doesn't know what the protesters' intentions are or what they are trying to do."
exactly-
I hope something comes of this to deter anyone else that might think along the lines of the people last night.
some of the neighbors have young kids.
Do any of you remember at the very beginning of this case someone saying that Casey had a new group of friends. I would like to know where are her old friends? What do they have to say about her? What experiences do they remember having with her and what do they know about these new people she has been running with? Good people or not so good? What do they know that they might be able to shed some light on what this new group was in to?
I dont think casey has any real friends.
I think she goes through people-using them to her advantage.
in her mind everyone is just an acquaintance


IMO/JMO/ETC

[dixie77]

He definitely looks miffed. Maybe he is upset because he did not know when he went to law school he would have to be a cab driver, too. jmo
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I laughed so hard that i almost choked on my Coke. lol

[nana6]

A logical belief on her part.

I for one am glad to know that Casey thinks logically. That will come in handy in court to know that she has all her senses and knows right from wrong.. You know, thinking logically and all

[housemaid25]

Does anyone have a link I may go to to see the water fight in the driveway last night?


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story?track=rss

[Dogmatic]

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How in the h*** did Casey think that far in advance? (as a reasoning to not give her name)


Probably affraid she might just hear a dial tone if they knew who it was.

She'll trust the police when SHE feels threatened, but won't call them when her daughter is "kidnapped". hmmmm....

[poplife]

I never put together before now, how close the gas can story and her dumping the car was.

Is it possible George was working nights and was the one to help her after /during she left her car at the Amscot?

He told her to dump it?

[Anakerie]

George "Hoses" Protesters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bBFwOlVE8I)

Anthony's Clash with "Protesters" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bBFwOlVE8I)

I uploaded both of these to YouTube earlier... They just now went "live".

[happy2bme]

I doubt she has to think very far ahead to know that the LE hate her, and if at all possible, wouldn't lift a finger to help her.

imo

I pretty sure she well aware that LE are not the only ones who have cold feelings toward her.

[rosejustrose]

Here ya go Kitty!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Looks like someone jammed the camera into it's casing. They'll have to send someone out to fix it, IMO.

[WillowInFlight]

Yeah, and up until that point, the A's were denying that there WERE any results showing a body being in there, and if there were results, they were wrong. Why the sudden backflip? Out of rage, he let it slip? Sort of?

ITA. no telling what else would have come out given the chance.

[MoonHarvest]

Catching up here. Note that Casey saw *no weapon*. Guess she missed Cindy stepping up to the plate.

I'm surprised the three of them haven't gone off on each other yet inside of that house.:chicken:

[Dogmatic]

I for one am glad to know that Casey thinks logically. That will come in handy in court to know that she has all her senses and knows right from wrong.. You know, thinking logically and all

Funny how she changed her attitude about trusting police.


Doesn't trust them when daughter is missing

Does trust three of them enough to have "relations" with them

Does trust them when she is scared in the night

[chrissybot]

Oh my, Jose seemed mightily ticked off, IMO. See the way he just tossed opened Casey's door and walked about five feet in front of her. I'm sure there was some angry discussions going on today. JMO.
O.k.. I got caught up on all the links. TY guys:seeya:. Now can someone tell me what Jose has to be angry about, which, btw, he did look angry to me, I just don't know why.

[happy2bme]

I'm sure its normal procedure to redact the private info. But the sinister spin will be good for the afternoon, or until the next event.


Nope hasn't been spun enough for me:rolleyes:

[margaritaville]

Probably affraid she might just hear a dial tone if they knew who it was.

She'll trust the police when SHE feels threatened, but won't call them when her daughter is "kidnapped". hmmmm....



I wish~~

911 operator " I will send officers to you Casey, when u tell me where Caylee is"

[Broderick]

The 911 operator asked her .

Are you the protestor or the resident?.

Casey answered ...I'm the resident.

I know this has been said but I feel like repeating it.

She trusted the cops enough to call them in this instance... believing she and her parents were in danger.

94 days ago.. She did not trust the cops when her 2 year old child was in danger.

That'll play really well at trial.



It appears anyone defending anyone in the family has a difficult job because they don't seem to take direction very well.

[beetlebrow]

I never put together before now, how close the gas can story and her dumping the car was.

Is it possible George was working nights and was the one to help her after /during she left her car at the Amscot?

He told her to dump it?


And then dropped her off the next morning (around noon) before going to work. :eek:

[hamebone]

Yeah, he went into to much detail with the whole gas can story. And Cindy was so nervous. Maybe he was trying to explain why his fingerprints will show up on the trunk when Casey hadn't been around for over a month?

jmo


Caylee:rose:

But if he did find her body and get rid of it...he would of been late or missed work that day...I wonder if LE checked that date out with GA's employer...?

if I type funny and dont make sense over look it...on pain meds for another herniated disk....grrr

[day2day]

"Absolutely, we know who the people are," George said. "They threw pebbles, pennies at my house. I have chips in my widows, damaged grass and a dent in my garage door."

That dent was caused by one of the protesters banging on the garage door. Armed with a bat, George and Cindy confronted the crowd. One woman grabbed George's' shirt and tried dragging him down the driveway. George ended up using a garden hose to keep the protesters away

http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html

He forgot to add that he had to STOP his 24 hour searching to protect his princess..

GRASS?!? IF my gd was missing...grass would be the last thing on my mind.

[OneUp]

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How in the h*** did Casey think that far in advance? (as a reasoning to not give her name)Perhaps she was also on her cell...checking on the appropriate thing to say and receiving "counsel"?
JMO.

[dixie77]

I for one am glad to know that Casey thinks logically. That will come in handy in court to know that she has all her senses and knows right from wrong.. You know, thinking logically and all
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Oh Yeah!!!!!! That relieves my mind about a possible insanity plea. JMO

[Dogmatic]

O.k.. I got caught up on all the links. TY guys:seeya:. Now can someone tell me what Jose has to be angry about, which, btw, he did look angry to me, I just don't know why.


I'm guessing because Casey was silly enough to dial 911.

There goes the "I dont trust police" defense

[bcrmom]

ITA. no telling what else would have come out given the chance.


When he does take the stand, one good cross-exam--get him all riled up--and we're gonna have one of those Perry Mason moments we live for.

[nana6]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story?track=rss

thank you so much

[rosejustrose]

Seemed like her attorney was NOT so pleased with her.

I don't think she was supposed to make that 911 call.

Oh dear, SLAM.


Seriously, sure does put the kabash on her "fear" of LE and calling for help. She didn't so frightened of them last night. As a matter of fact, she was a little rude and demanding, IMO.

[trt]

According to George, Casey showed up at the house between 2:25 and 2:30 on the 24th. At 2:40, Casey posted this message on Facebook

Casey Anthony (Orlando, FL) wrote
at 2:40pm on June 24th, 2008
she still has yet to move into the house. hell, in the past 9 days, i haven't even been living at the house. DRAMMMMMA. i'll fill ya in later on.
miss ya, yo.

I wonder what the IP address (correct term) is on that?

imo, moo


Hmmm, that puts her leaving the house on June 15th and not 16th as George says also. Also lends credence to the idea that she left after a blowup and not as part of a normal everyday occurence as George said.

There is a lot in that one little message that debunks a whole lot of nonsense we've been told about Caylee's disappearance. JMO

[rosejustrose]

Wasn't constitution day yesterday?
:shrug:


Yes, Constitution and Citizens Day, every 9/17.

[farrahrani]

Probably affraid she might just hear a dial tone if they knew who it was.

She'll trust the police when SHE feels threatened, but won't call them when her daughter is "kidnapped". hmmmm....


Despite all the joking, 911 dispatchers are professional, and will do their job and send out police to whomever calls as necessary. Even if they get a 'hangup' call with no sound, police are still dispatched to the number after it is traced, to guarantee the safety of whomever is at the location. The first question they ask in those situations, after being assured the call is an accident is to take a look inside the residence.
(My kids have called 911 more than once as babies)

I have nothing but respect for the besieged and overworked police dealing as well as they can with this case.

IMO, Casey's reluctance to reveal her name is more a fear of being broadcast on media, than a true fear of being ignored by authorities.

[tiny paw-prints]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html

FBI agents and Orange County sheriff's detectives plan to extend the Casey Anthony investigation to California.

Thank you!!! :patriot:

[Snoopy50]

Play nice, off to afternoon meetings!:seeya:

[5boxersmom]

Catching up here. Note that Casey saw *no weapon*. Guess she missed Cindy stepping up to the plate.



Absolutely:)

Funny how she trust the LE when it is her butt on the line, but not for Caylee.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[trt]

When the FIRST time her name is requested, Casey says ''hold on'' then pauses and says something then she begins talking normally again.

The operator asks her a SECOND time who she is IMO, she would not need to if Casey had identified herself the first time. Then she gave her identity as "The Resident"

I called 911 twice in my life, and was only asked my identity once during each call. Once I gave it, it was not requested again.

I didn't hear her say hold-on...also, she was asked by a second person (male) who she was and responds that she is the resident, so I don't know if they asked again because she didn't respond the first time or because it was now a different person making the request.

I was more put off by her tone than whether or not she said her name (which I believe she did.) JMO

[Dogmatic]

Despite all the joking, 911 dispatchers are professional, and will do their job and send out police to whomever calls as necessary. Even if they get a 'hangup' call with no sound, police are still dispatched to the number after it is traced, to guarantee the safety of whomever is at the location. The first question they ask in those situations, after being assured the call is an accident is to take a look inside the residence.
(My kids have called 911 more than once as babies)

I have nothing but respect for the besieged and overworked police dealing as well as they can with this case.

IMO, Casey's reluctance to reveal her name is more a fear of being broadcast on media, than a true fear of being ignored by authorities.


Agreed. No disrespect intended. They do a great job.

[happy2bme]

Casey Doesn't trust LE so she didn't call them or coroporate with them about Caylee but she will call them over her parents with protestors. Doesn't make much sense to me.

[day2day]

What the heck was she supposed to do? She can't go out and start defending herself. Are they just supposed to sit there while this, imo drug and alcohol crazed vigilante destroys their home, their neighborhood. Are they supposed to just sit there and let these idiots come in and commit home invasion on them?

drugged and crazed vigilantes? the protestors or the Anthony's?
The Anthonys were TOLD by LE to stay in the home...do they listen? NO
so why bother?
jmo

[luvinlife]

I listened to that audiotape now at least four times, and it's clear that both her address and her name are blocked out of the call. The addy right in the beginning of the tape, and her name about 43 seconds into the tape. She DOES state address and name; it is redacted.



The one from the LE webiste, I listened again and that is what I hear too.

[Dogmatic]

What the heck was she supposed to do? She can't go out and start defending herself. Are they just supposed to sit there while this, imo drug and alcohol crazed vigilante destroys their home, their neighborhood. Are they supposed to just sit there and let these idiots come in and commit home invasion on them?


No. The parents should have dialed 911.

This "peaceful protest" needs to end. It really does

[trt]

I listened to that audiotape now at least four times, and it's clear that both her address and her name are blocked out of the call. The addy right in the beginning of the tape, and her name about 43 seconds into the tape. She DOES state address and name; it is redacted.

I think you are right...I hear the same thing.

[n/t]

The 911 operator asked her .

Are you the protestor or the resident?.

Casey answered ...I'm the resident.

I know this has been said but I feel like repeating it.

She trusted the cops enough to call them in this instance... believing she and her parents were in danger.

94 days ago.. She did not trust the cops when her 2 year old child was in danger.

That'll play really well at trial.

Bingo! I think Baez is really pissed about this. I'm sure George and Cindy got an earful too.

[FrankieBones1]

Is there a link to the audio of the 911 call? :seeya:I tried downloading straight from the Sheriff's site but my Real Player won't play it nor will my Windows Media player.
But I did find a site where the 911 calls will work.

This is a link to the second call. Casey makes the call but never gives her name.
http://www.local6.com/news/17505245/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

[farrahrani]

Or you simply didn't hear it.
:read:


It's possible, but i doubt it. After all most 911 operators don't make a habit of repeating requests for identification once its been given. She asked who Casey was TWICE.

[Dogmatic]

Casey Doesn't trust LE so she didn't call them or coroporate with them about Caylee but she will call them over her parents with protestors. Doesn't make much sense to me.


And don't forget she had sexual relations with three of them also. You don't usually do that with people you don't trust.

[5boxersmom]

But if he did find her body and get rid of it...he would of been late or missed work that day...I wonder if LE checked that date out with GA's employer...?

if I type funny and dont make sense over look it...on pain meds for another herniated disk....grrr

Did he say he was working that day? I thought he was going to rotate tires?

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[hamebone]

What the heck was she supposed to do? She can't go out and start defending herself. Are they just supposed to sit there while this, imo drug and alcohol crazed vigilante destroys their home, their neighborhood. Are they supposed to just sit there and let these idiots come in and commit home invasion on them?

Ask Jose he was the one who seems upset....or not...The poster you quoted was givng a reason why Jose might been pizzed at CA...or not...

[trich]

I doubt she has to think very far ahead to know that the LE hate her, and if at all possible, wouldn't lift a finger to help her.

imo


Casey is the consumate liar ..it just comes naturally to her.
She is so consumed with lies and untruths that she does not have to even think ahead of time.
If the le hate her , which I seriously doubt, it is her own fault for again telling so many stories all of which have been determined to be untrue.
Here she has a daughter missing and she will do absolutly nothing to help find her.

[farrahrani]

Stay in the home and what? Wait till the idiot protesters come inside and comit violence against them?

The protesters in this instance were careful (so it seemed) to stay off the property, which was why they were throwing things from a distance. To lure them out, which worked.

They should have stayed on their doorstep and simply informed them that police were on the way, and that they had been videotaped, and charges for damages would be pressed.

[poplife]

it can go either way, he'll just say she's fearful of LE.

[n/t]

Stay in the home and what? Wait till the idiot protesters come inside and comit violence against them?

Until the cops got there. Why go outside and make it worse?

[firefly75]

What the heck was she supposed to do? She can't go out and start defending herself. Are they just supposed to sit there while this, imo drug and alcohol crazed vigilante destroys their home, their neighborhood. Are they supposed to just sit there and let these idiots come in and commit home invasion on them?

Well they "sat" (partied) around when their daughter and granddaughter was kidnapped?

mabey they should of waited 31 days to report this?
they all make sick!

[nana6]

Enough NetNannyWarnings, please ..
:)If you just keep reading you will see we need them badly. Last week we were shut down and no one liked it. I never mind when someone reminds us. Why would we mind? Some people need reminding and that's ok :)

[happy2bme]

Weren't her parents being physically attacked at that point? Her parents did make the initial call(s).


and they were told to stay inside the home.

[hamebone]

Did he say he was working that day? I thought he was going to rotate tires?

jmo

Caylee:rose:

I think he was going to do the tires that weekend...and he said on greta he was watching food network before going to work...I believe..

[Shellberry]

Stay in the home and what? Wait till the idiot protesters come inside and comit violence against them?

exactly-people are crazy these days.
you never know what someone will do.
just look at the news all over the world on situations where people take it upon themselves to do justice...not caring or thinking about the consequences
they feel justified in the moment especially if they succeed in doing what they went there to do.

imo/jmo

[Dogmatic]

Weren't her parents being physically attacked at that point? Her parents did make the initial call(s).


I believe this is why Baez is angry.

1. The parents did not follow L.E.'s instructions. (doesn't bode well for them)
2. Proves Casey does trust LE enough to call them when she is frightened (doesn't bode well for her. Shows she was not frightened when her daughter went missing.)

[SavannahStar]

She never stated her name.


WE didn't hear it because it was redacted. She stated her name.

[rosejustrose]

After hearing something (can't remember the clue), but it made me think that Casey saw the "Zeinda" person checking into renting the apt and possibly took something with her stats and would have possibly used it as another alias. jmo

What say you?


I don't think she saw her or she would have been able to identify her photo. I think she lifted her personal information from the application while she was visiting the Sawgrass. JMO.

[cuddlyrunner]

just listened to the 911 tape- my golly gosh that girl is cool. if someone was dragging my dad down the driveway I'd be screaming down the phone to LE (actually I wouldn't cos I'd be smacking anyone who touched him but casey can't leave the house and face the fact she has brought all this on her family!!!!!).

where is the link to JB collecting her please?

[Katprint]

The OCSO disagrees with you. George has the right to defend himself and his property. Amd I doubt Cindy will face charges for hosing down what the police have already said "primary aggressors".

Luckey said the protesters could have charges filed against them because they were the primary aggressors.

"[George Anthony] has the right to protect himself and his property," Luckey said. "He doesn't know what the protesters' intentions are or what they are trying to do."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story?page=2
The protesters' conduct consisting of throwing pebbles and pennies, does not require "protecting" against (unlike rocks breaking windows by contrast.) In fact, the best "protection" would be for George Anthony to STAY INSIDE while waiting for police to respond rather than arming himself with a baseball bat (otherwise known as "deadly weapon") and going outside to escalate the situation. Furthermore, I have personally seen video of Cindy hosing down peaceful protesters who were not "aggressors." Even Lee got in on the action, grabbing the property of the peacefully protesting woman and her dog.

I don't doubt that some of the protesters should be prosecuted for their illegal actions. However, the Anthonys should also be prosecuted when they break the law.

What the Anthonys really need to do is to ask the HOA for permission to build a tall privacy fence across the front of their property - with a gate across their driveway - until this whole thing blows over.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[day2day]

Stay in the home and what? Wait till the idiot protesters come inside and comit violence against them?

Oh c'mon...how bout if they would have had a gun? Would you say the same thing? The TRUTH is...the Anthony's are MORE worried about fighting protestors than they are about searching for Caylee who has been missing 95 DAYS! My god..

jmo

[Anakerie]

Weren't her parents being physically attacked at that point? Her parents did make the initial call(s).
George and Cindy wouldn't have been physically attacked if they had done what the 911 operator had told Cindy. Which is to stay inside the house. Why on earth did they think they could make those idiots outside go away?

[n/t]

The protesters in this instance were careful (so it seemed) to stay off the property, which was why they were throwing things from a distance. To lure them out, which worked.

They should have stayed on their doorstep and simply informed them that police were on the way, and that they had been videotaped, and charges for damages would be pressed.

Exactly. Cindy with a baseball bat. Who's threatening whom by having a weapon?

hmm let's see .. penny throwers vs a crazed woman with a baseball bat.

[rosejustrose]

I threw a penny at someone from a balcony.


How high were you? You know you can cause serious damage doing that:no: LOL.

[Dogmatic]

it can go either way, he'll just say she's fearful of LE.


No she isn't. She has sex with them and calls them when she's scared. She just proved that.

[trich]

Originally Posted by ?WudScoobyDo
What the heck was she supposed to do? She can't go out and start defending herself. Are they just supposed to sit there while this, imo drug and alcohol crazed vigilante destroys their home, their neighborhood. Are they supposed to just sit there and let these idiots come in and commit home invasion on them?


I tell you what she is suppose to do....she is suppose to be telling the truth so the authorities can find her daughter.
The Anthonys can stop all this by admitting their daughter is responsible for the loss of their grandaughter and stop the covering up for Casey.

[OneUp]

The protesters in this instance were careful (so it seemed) to stay off the property, which was why they were throwing things from a distance. To lure them out, which worked.

They should have stayed on their doorstep and simply informed them that police were on the way, and that they had been videotaped, and charges for damages would be pressed.What a perfectly sensible concept! I agree that would have been best, I would like to think my response would be similar. I have faith in LE to do their job.
JMO.

[5boxersmom]

I think he was going to do the tires that weekend...and he said on greta he was watching food network before going to work...I believe..

Nope. Different days. He said he was watching the food network on June 16th when Casey and Caylee left the house. June 24th is the day he got in the trunk. I don't think work was mentioned that day.

jmo
Caylee:rose:

[happy2bme]

<p>[quote=?WudScoobyDo;12141975]Because the cops didn't come until it was over and done with.



If they would have stayed in the house nothing would have been as you say "over and done".

[poplife]

I don't think she saw her or she would have been able to identify her photo. I think she lifted her personal information from the application while she was visiting the Sawgrass. JMO.

she was applying herself and came across zanny's info. IMO. she had just left her parent's house, already knew someone in the development and went into the office. Probably picked up the info in the office when no one was present. Not sure why she used the "fernandez" part though.

[LeslieK]

Some of the protesters were tossing pennies (or rocks) at the Anthony's garage door. Cindy came out with George and a baseball bat.
A woman grabbed George's shirt. George ordered them off his property and then took out the hose and sprayed them while they were on the sidewalk.


Its getting ridiculous. Someone is going to be hurt. The protesters need to go home. They're not accomplishing anything. if 37 straight days in solitary confinement didn't move her, those protesters won't either. All they protesters are doing is making the Anthonys less trustful and further isolating them from the truth. It seems to me that the behavior and mentality of the "protesters" is degrading and someone will get hurt.

[Dogmatic]

And.. has nothing to do with the criminal case pending against her.


I think it does, depending on what defense they had lined up for her.

For me, the fact that the Anthony's won't follow LE's specific instructions to stay inside, reveals a bit of their character.

[SavannahStar]

No. The parents should have dialed 911.

This "peaceful protest" needs to end. It really does


Cindy called 911 first. Then Casey made two 911 calls.

As a matter of fact, some kept posting this morning, "they should just stay inside. Call LE!" Well......Cindy did call 911 BEFORE anyone went outside. She asked that LE come to the house; she was afraid George was going outside..she was trying to stop him.

[CuriousJ]

We were talking about this late last night, when George took the stand Casey was almost hysterical with her crying, George was even choking up, after a few minutes she gave George a smile, I said last night to me it looked like a "thank you dad" smile.

Wow, I definitely missed that. It's clear, IMO, that they are covering for each other. If one goes down, the other one does too. I think this also explains how Casey has been so steadfast in her refusal to cooperate with authorities. She is not just trying to save herself, but her father as well.

Interesting that she cried. I didn't think she was capable of such emotion.

[Albini]

Stay in the home and what? Wait till the idiot protesters come inside and comit violence against them?


Better then going outside so the idiot protesters could commit violence against them.

[not.another]

What the heck was she supposed to do? She can't go out and start defending herself. Are they just supposed to sit there while this, imo drug and alcohol crazed vigilante destroys their home, their neighborhood. Are they supposed to just sit there and let these idiots come in and commit home invasion on them?

Don't post much. I have to side with Scooby on this one. The protesters (if that's what we can call them) were way out of line).
If this happened to me and my family, my husband would be out there in a heartbeat, bat in hand, no doubt. Who knows, maybe their next step would have been to get "into" the house to find Casey. Don't get me wrong, I think Casey is as guilty as sin. It's just too bad that her parents are paying the price. MOO

[beetlebrow]

I tried downloading straight from the Sheriff's site but my Real Player won't play it nor will my Windows Media player.
But I did find a site where the 911 calls will work.

This is a link to the second call. Casey makes the call but never gives her name.
http://www.local6.com/news/17505245/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news



Thank you.......I was just looking for this.......she does NOT give her name......CASE CLOSED......END OF DISCUSSION!!!!!!

[WillowInFlight]

Well they "sat" (partied) around when their daughter and granddaughter was kidnapped?

mabey they should of waited 31 days to report this?
they all make sick!

Because they have now made this all about them, Caylee has been put on the back burner. IMO

[tiny paw-prints]

tiny, I have clarified...I did not originally bring Annies Mysapce link in, I quoted the OP and laughed a bit that she (annie) was suggesting she was going to "cali" as the LE is going there ( coincidental AFAIK).
She was a friend of Casey's per Casey's Myspace before it went private and much was deleted, and I believe the ball cap found in the Anthony's trash by Loraine WAS Annies. I'll find the Pics. tonight is you want , but the cap in the trash and the one on her head are identical down to the wear on the bill...except the one in the trash was more damaged. My thought is that Casey may have damaged/tossed it because Annie has "betrayed" her.
IDK how long they were friends, thus asking about HS, I do know there are many pics. of them partying together, inc. Casey's 21st B-day.
Padilla stated that Annie lived at the Sawgrass apts. I haven't
verified and don't remember that.
What this all means? IDK...just information to consider.

JMO...I can gather links tonight, but I am holding my toddler & it's hard to type, etc. I know they have all been posted here before. If you would like to, PM me and I'll collect them into one post for you.


Okay, now I understand what you're getting at! Thanks for the clarification. Nope, don't need any links or photo links about the shamrock cap; I've seen pics of Annie wearing it, as well as Caylee.

Aside from Lorraine finding the shredded cap in the A's trash, I'm interested in your theory about why you think Annie has betrayed Casey.

Also, I'm wondering if you or anyone knows if Casey was with someone on the day she had the 'beautiful life' tattoo applied, or did she go alone?

[n/t]

Because the cops didn't come until it was over and done with.

Huh? What's your point? That's no reason to be out there with a baseball bat and hosing them down. Weren't they safer inside the home with doors and windows locked? As far as I know, there were no windows or doors broken down. There was no immediate danger until the Anthonys came out to confront them.

The Anthonys must have naps in the afternoon when Casey is with her lawyer so must not be tired at 1:30 am. They seem to enjoy the late night/early morning drama.

[Shellberry]

The protesters in this instance were careful (so it seemed) to stay off the property, which was why they were throwing things from a distance. To lure them out, which worked.

They should have stayed on their doorstep and simply informed them that police were on the way, and that they had been videotaped, and charges for damages would be pressed.

no-they werent careful, they totally skipped past the no tresspassing signs and went up to the door and had the nerve to knock.
that is not staying off the property.
knocking on the door, imo, is egging on.
they had every right to come out of their house to see who was there.

I posted a link in the protester thread about what you are allowed to do as a protester in FL.

IMO/JMO

[day2day]

Its getting ridiculous. Someone is going to be hurt. The protesters need to go home. They're not accomplishing anything. if 37 straight days in solitary confinement didn't move her, those protesters won't either. All they protesters are doing is making the Anthonys less trustful and further isolating them from the truth. It seems to me that the behavior and mentality of the "protesters" is degrading and someone will get hurt.

But it DID move her...
She was too scared to call LE cause she couldnt trust them. But she sure called them when the protestors were tossin pennies and nickels.

She is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO busted...

[rosejustrose]

He definitely looks miffed. Maybe he is upset because he did not know when he went to law school he would have to be a cab driver, too. jmo


He'd probably make more money driving a cab then he's ever going to get from the anthonys, IMO.

[hamebone]

Because the cops didn't come until it was over and done with.


I'm sorry not able to follow you here...you think its a good idea to go out when you have drunks, drug crazed ( your words ) home invaders...who hate you and face them..?

Dont get me wrong, I think the protesters last night were out of line and should be arrested....but I dont think C&G...need to go out there.

[firefly75]

Don't post much. I have to side with Scooby on this one. The protesters (if that's what we can call them) were way out of line).
If this happened to me and my family, my husband would be out there in a heartbeat, bat in hand, no doubt. Who knows, maybe their next step would have been to get "into" the house to find Casey. Don't get me wrong, I think Casey is as guilty as sin. It's just too bad that her parents are paying the price. MOO

Caylee is the one paying the price:(

[LeslieK]

Which will be in stark contrast to her apparent LACK OF fear for her daughter's life, from the moment she discovered she had 'misplaced' her, to this very day. ;)

Thats true, but for those protesters to think that they have the right to do as they please to "break them down" is ridiculous. THese protesters need to go to jail. You can't break the law in order to enforce it.

[OneUp]

WE didn't hear it because it was redacted. She stated her name.
'This Can't Keep Happening; They're The Same Punks,' Casey Anthony Tells 911
http://www.local6.com/news/17505245/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

Just a written transcript of most of that call. Easier to read it for me anyway. I'm looking for one with the entire call, but I'm :confused:as to why they would ask for her name more than once if she had already given it. Maybe just confusion? IDK. A transcript of the whole call front to end WOULD help.
JMO.

[Albini]

I don't understand this. Why on earth would that anger her attorney?


B/c she got up off her flipping rear and did something, unlike her inability to call the police when her own child was "kidnapped".

It blows the "I was afraid to get the police invloved."

she wasnt afriad to call the cops when the offenders where still THERE. Yet she waited 31 days to call about Caylee.

No one misses that relevence I am sure.

[WillowInFlight]

Wow, I definitely missed that. It's clear, IMO, that they are covering for each other. If one goes down, the other one does too. I think this also explains how Casey has been so steadfast in her refusal to cooperate with authorities. She is not just trying to save herself, but her father as well.

Interesting that she cried. I didn't think she was capable of such emotion.
It has also been stated that she may be telling the truth that she does not know where Caylee is if she had someone else dispose of the body.

[SavannahStar]

You can post that all day & it will still be untrue.

She never stated her name.

Hence the fact that she is asked twice.

And you can post whatever you wish all day long but you are wrong.

[Broderick]

You can post that all day & it will still be untrue.

She never stated her name.

Hence the fact that she is asked twice.

Here is some transcript.

http://www.local6.com/news/17505245/detail.html

[CANDYKISSES]

I believe this is why Baez is angry.

1. The parents did not follow L.E.'s instructions. (doesn't bode well for them)
2. Proves Casey does trust LE enough to call them when she is frightened (doesn't bode well for her. Shows she was not frightened when her daughter went missing.)


Well said Dogmatic. I was blown away when I read that Casey made the call. However, I had this little niggling suspicion that maybe this was set up so she could bring it with her to trial somewhere....you know to prove they are being threatened....etc...FEAR to the NINES.

So who are you thinking could be suspected in being an accomplice?

I keep hanging on to a prayer that maybe the guy she emailed about wanting to come and see him to tell him something she had just recently told Cindy and Lee is really the father of Caylee. I listened several times this week to the tape where she claims that she had not seen the PATERNAL GRANDS since she was between five and seven...paraphrasing here.

I am down to about four theories, but I can't abandon the idea she *might* be alive, even tho I know it's against all odds.

One theory concludes that LE found substantial blood in the dumpster that would convince them she could not have survived and of course Lennie's theory of falling from a deck/patio might give that some credence. But then I get stuck on how nobody else would have seen anything.

I wish we knew whatever Lennie really found out when he was there, as I see him himming and hawing each night on NG. Frustrating at best. ALL JMO.

[Albini]

How so?????

If you are afriad you stay inside and lock the doors until help arrives.

If you are trolling for a fight you walk out the door and into an angry mob.

The protesters were not in the right. But the Anthonys were also not keeping the peace themselves by confronting the protesters when they already had previous run ins with them. This is a pattern. It all needs to stop.

[n/t]

I think it does, depending on what defense they had lined up for her.

For me, the fact that the Anthony's won't follow LE's specific instructions to stay inside, reveals a bit of their character.

Uh huh. ;)

[tiny paw-prints]

(snipped)

He forgot to add that he had to STOP his 24 hour searching to protect his princess..

GRASS?!? IF my gd was missing...grass would be the last thing on my mind.

I agree! You have to carefully pay attention while distinguishing

between the phrase:

"Get off your azz..." versus "Stay off my grass".... :tongue:

[Dogmatic]

B/c she got up off her flipping rear and did something, unlike her inability to call the police when her own child was "kidnapped".

It blows the "I was afraid to get the police invloved."

she wasnt afriad to call the cops when the offenders where still THERE. Yet she waited 31 days to call about Caylee.

No one misses that relevence I am sure.

Resounding relevence in the mind of Jose Baez. Back to the drawing board...........

[day2day]

correction: Casey said they called an hour 1/2 ago & it it took 30 mins for someone to respond . it's on her tape. I DO NOT DEFEND HER only saying it the way I heard it.

Do they think that LE revolves around their calls?! Maybe someone ELSE needed them? My God....

[OneUp]

Because the cops didn't come until it was over and done with.
You're right,,, I imagine they were parked down the road enjoying their donuts and videotaping the whole thing for Carps and giggles!
What on earth could have taken them all those minutes to get to the scene?
...On a serious note. My 'Puter is still dragging along, how long was the entire taped confrontation? Did it even last 15 minutes from when the A,'s came out until the drunken whatevers left?
JMO or whatever.

[CANDYKISSES]

It has also been stated that she may be telling the truth that she does not know where Caylee is if she had someone else dispose of the body.


Hi Sweet WIllow, I think about that too. Especially if you think about all her LE hotties. ;)

:seeya:

[Albini]

It still has nothing to do with the pending case.


How not?

Her ability to aid herself and her inability to aid her daughter is very relevent to this case.

[day2day]

I agree! You have to carefully pay attention while distinguishing

between the phrase:

"Get off your azz..." versus "Stay off my grass".... :tongue:

And..don't forget the donations..just don't TOSS coins...we need CHECKS...:biggrin:

[SavannahStar]

'This Can't Keep Happening; They're The Same Punks,' Casey Anthony Tells 911
http://www.local6.com/news/17505245/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

Just a written transcript of most of that call. Easier to read it for me anyway. I'm looking for one with the entire call, but I'm :confused:as to why they would ask for her name more than once if she had already given it. Maybe just confusion? IDK. A transcript of the whole call front to end WOULD help.
JMO.

The call needs to be listened to as the transcript would not indicated redacted portions.

Reason for the two questions of "who are you" is that the first question was asked by the original 911 person (woman), then a man gets on later, and he asks. Both times response is redacted.

[desmom]

"Dr. Phil" to offer Caylee Anthony segment on Monday
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-offe.html

The episode taped Wednesday in Los Angeles. The participants include a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D'Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6.

[hamebone]

she was applying herself and came across zanny's info. IMO. she had just left her parent's house, already knew someone in the development and went into the office. Probably picked up the info in the office when no one was present. Not sure why she used the "fernandez" part though.

Will it matter now at all about the apartmet and a ZG?

She did change her story and put ZG at the park when she kidnapped Caylee..

[trt]

You can post that all day & it will still be untrue.

She never stated her name.

Hence the fact that she is asked twice.


She is asked by two different people...not by the same person, so that doesn't mean that she didn't answer the first time, just that once a different person got on, they asked again. After the dispatcher asked, I hear the beginning of the word "This" and then silence...picking back up where she says this needs to stop, blah blah blah.

Since we KNOW that some things were redacted here(you can hear the 4 of the address before it goes silent indicating that she as giving her address which is also not included in the tape), it is not a fact that she was asked her name and she didn't respond. It is a fact that she was asked her name and we cannot hear her give it. Doesn't mean it wasn't. JMO

[Dogmatic]

Well said Dogmatic. I was blown away when I read that Casey made the call. However, I had this little niggling suspicion that maybe this was set up so she could bring it with her to trial somewhere....you know to prove they are being threatened....etc...FEAR to the NINES.

So who are you thinking could be suspected in being an accomplice?

I keep hanging on to a prayer that maybe the guy she emailed about wanting to come and see him to tell him something she had just recently told Cindy and Lee is really the father of Caylee. I listened several times this week to the tape where she claims that she had not seen the PATERNAL GRANDS since she was between five and seven...paraphrasing here.

I am down to about four theories, but I can't abandon the idea she *might* be alive, even tho I know it's against all odds.

One theory concludes that LE found substantial blood in the dumpster that would convince them she could not have survived and of course Lennie's theory of falling from a deck/patio might give that some credence. But then I get stuck on how nobody else would have seen anything.

I wish we knew whatever Lennie really found out when he was there, as I see him himming and hawing each night on NG. Frustrating at best. ALL JMO.

I trust the dogs and the Body Farm. I firmly believe there was a dead body in that trunk, and unfortunately, through the process of elimination, believe that body belonged to Caylee.

[rosejustrose]

Perhaps she was also on her cell...checking on the appropriate thing to say and receiving "counsel"?
JMO.


Or perhaps she knows her name is mud and that she's hated far and wide. She was probably afraid they would think it was a prank call. Heck, Casey Anthony, the 911 opearator would be like "Sure, everyone knows Casey Anthony doesn't know how to dial 911":rolleyes:MOO

[happy2bme]

It still has nothing to do with the pending case.


That would not have anything to do with child neglect? Seriously asking...:shrug:

[tiny paw-prints]

Did he say he was working that day? I thought he was going to rotate tires?

jmo

Caylee:rose:

IIRC, George said he needed the wedges because he had plans on rotating Cindy's tires on the upcoming "weekend". My question: Did George ever FIND or retrieve those wedges that he claimed he needed? Has it ever been mentioned that you're aware of? TIA

[Shellberry]

and they were told to stay inside the home.
did casey call after they were already outside?

I heard a tape where Cindy made the first 911 call. When Casey called later she stated that they called an hour and 1/2 ago and no one responded.
ok, cops didnt come- why shouldnt they go out of their own house?
if they called first, no one came to protect them
what the heck would you do?
I sure as heck would grab the first thing handy and see who was knocking at my door/throwing stuff at my house.

in my case it would probably be a big tall lamp near my front door, but still.

I'm sorry not able to follow you here...you think its a good idea to go out when you have drunks, drug crazed ( your words ) home invaders...who hate you and face them..?

Dont get me wrong, I think the protesters last night were out of line and should be arrested....but I dont think C&G...need to go out there.
how do you know they were drunk?
could be the way they acted-is just who they in particular are.

although, imo, that boy who pulled george may have a few drinks.
once it started getting 'hotter', the young girl tried to pull the boy away.

I think they had the balls to do it because people saw that the hoa thing was denied.


if they had called the police an hour before and they didnt show up until casey called,
they have every right to go outside to see what was going on and protect themselves.

they couldnt count on the police to come if they didnt show up and hour before.



IMO/JMO

[not.another]

They're putting the princess at risk, too, by coming out the garage, leaving the door wide open. Are they locking the door from the garage to the house before they go out to mix it up with the protesters? Doubtful. And if not, it wouldn't be all that difficult for someone to sneak past the hose and the bat and get to Casey.

True that!

[concernedmom]

Or perhaps she knows her name is mud and that she's hated far and wide. She was probably afraid they would think it was a prank call. Heck, Casey Anthony, the 911 opearator would be like "Sure, everyone knows Casey Anthony doesn't know how to dial 911":rolleyes:MOO

:lol::lol:

[jammies]

Or perhaps she knows her name is mud and that she's hated far and wide. She was probably afraid they would think it was a prank call. Heck, Casey Anthony, the 911 opearator would be like "Sure, everyone knows Casey Anthony doesn't know how to dial 911":rolleyes:MOO



911 should have asked her "How did you find our number?"

[st777jo]

"[George Anthony] has the right to protect himself and his property," Luckey said. "He doesn't know what the protesters' intentions are or what they are trying to do."

Maybe thats the problem. Caylee wasn't property. The A's only protect George, Cindy, Casey, maybe Lee. Never Caylee and their property.
And we can figure out what Casey's intentions were with Caylee.

[day2day]

And the incident will prove she has good reason to distrust LE.
imo

Ha...they will pull out their list of 1,88888 prior calls...and point to the fact there really IS a safe place for PrincessPantsonFire-JAIL

jmo

[MichelleP]

And the incident will prove she has good reason to distrust LE.
imo

Why will it prove she had good reason to distrust LE?

[Dogmatic]

And the incident will prove she has good reason to distrust LE.
imo

LE is not to blame. They have responded and done their best to keep the peace.

At this point, a judge needs to declare that one more infraction of a peaceful protest will be cause for no protest at all.

[Albini]

And the incident will prove she has good reason to distrust LE.
imo


Why? B/c they tried to find her missing child?

I would find Caseys "fear" of the LE more conviencing had she not slept with 3 of them.

The LE has done what Casey failed to do.

[WillowInFlight]

Hi Sweet WIllow, I think about that too. Especially if you think about all her LE hotties. ;)

:seeya:
Hiya Candy, are we ever going to know the truth? :(

[OneUp]

You forgot to add..crazed woman whose home and family were under attack, by a vigilante "band of lawless instigators".I'm fine with saying..."a band of lawless, vigilante, penny throwering instigators vs a crazed woman with a baseball bat and her husband the Hose-toting security guard."
That sounds about accurate to me anyway.
JMO.

[101Spots]

"Dr. Phil" to offer Caylee Anthony segment on Monday
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-offe.html

The episode taped Wednesday in Los Angeles. The participants include a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D'Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6.

Must-miss TV.

[WingNIt]

Because the cops didn't come until it was over and done with.

and that is exactly WHY they should have stayed in the house.
IMO

[LeslieK]

But it DID move her...
She was too scared to call LE cause she couldnt trust them. But she sure called them when the protestors were tossin pennies and nickels.

She is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO busted...


What proof is that that she killed Caylee? I am certain that Casey is guilty, but I believe in the justice system, not vigilantism. How does the criminal behavior of the protesters prove anything about this case? What is happening is a bunch of bullies have seized the opportunity to assault the Anthonys and wrap it into some kind of higher justification. Their criminal behavior proves NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. THe fact that the police refuse to enforce the law is going to give Baez a lot of leeway publicity wise for Casey and the Anthonys. The protesters are behaving like criminals themselves, as determined by their actions. Terrorizing people is NEVER the morally right thing to do, not to mention that the protesters are acting like common trailer trash. They really should pack their toothbrushes, because sooner or later, one of them is going to commit a violent crime against the Anthonys and go to jail, where all of them belong. What is especially shocking to me is that they take their children to protest, and that is definitely child endangerment with the tensions and potential for violence that is taking place. Once the violence starts, the children won't be safe. That's no place for children. Maybe the protesters need to be charged with child endangerment. Either way, its starting to look like the pot calling the kettle black. These "protesters" need to go home and see to their own loves. Not one of them is helping anything by protesting. In fact, if the cops continue to decline to enforce the law, that may actually be a constitutional issue for Casey to pursue.

[farrahrani]

no-they werent careful, they totally skipped past the no tresspassing signs and went up to the door and had the nerve to knock.
that is not staying off the property.
knocking on the door, imo, is egging on.
they had every right to come out of their house to see who was there.

I posted a link in the protester thread about what you are allowed to do as a protester in FL.

IMO/JMO

If that's the case, then that is my mistake, for which I deserve :flamemad:

I was only going by what I saw when I clicked a link, it didn't include them knocking on the door.

[hamebone]

did casey call after SNIPPED_

how do you know they were drunk?
could be the way they acted-is just who they in particular are.

although, imo, that boy who pulled george may have a few drinks.
once it started getting 'hotter', the young girl tried to pull the boy away.

I think they had the balls to do it because people saw that the hoa thing was denied.


if they had called the police an hour before and they didnt show up until casey called,
they have every right to go outside to see what was going on and protect themselves.

they couldnt count on the police to come if they didnt show up and hour before.



IMO/JMO


I dont know if they were drunk, I used the words of the person I quoted..

[CuriousJ]

It has also been stated that she may be telling the truth that she does not know where Caylee is if she had someone else dispose of the body.

Yes, I too believe that her insistence on not knowing where Caylee is might be partially true.

If GA did dispose of Caylee's body, I would like to at least believe that - as her grandfather - he did not, COULD not, just throw her into a dumpster or a swamp. He would have had to try to give her a "decent" (in his mind) burial, right? Which means, hopefully, her body will be found eventually. But, with his LE experience, I'm sure her little body is very well hidden wherever it is. :(

[nana6]

Here is some transcript.

http://www.local6.com/news/17505245/detail.html

no she never ever stated her name

[OneUp]

Cindy called 911 first. Then Casey made two 911 calls.

As a matter of fact, some kept posting this morning, "they should just stay inside. Call LE!" Well......Cindy did call 911 BEFORE anyone went outside. She asked that LE come to the house; she was afraid George was going outside..she was trying to stop him.With a BAT savannah? I get irked at my Dh , but there is no way i would go after him with a bat when he fails to listen to me! I don't think that's it at all.
Of course, you would have had to drag me out that door with those Yahoo's outside anyway....Cindy and I don't seem to have much besides basic anatomy in common. I just can't understand a single thing she does.
JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Casey Doesn't trust LE so she didn't call them or coroporate with them about Caylee but she will call them over her parents with protestors. Doesn't make much sense to me.


What I thought particularly interesting was that she said her dad was going outside and there was going to be a fight. Apparently, Casey knew Big Daddy was itching for a fight. Then Crazy Cindy joined the fray with her Louisville Slugger. Dang, the protesters were out of line but the Anthonys were more than happy to accomodate them. I think Big Daddy got a little bit skeered when the woman grabbed him:chicken: Abusive type guys like him are usually cowards, IMO. You know, full of sound and fury signifying nothing. JMO.

Poor little Caylee, RIP angel baby:rose:

[day2day]

What proof is that that she killed Caylee? I am certain that Casey is guilty, but I believe in the justice system, not vigilantism. How does the criminal behavior of the protesters prove anything about this case? What is happening is a bunch of bullies have seized the opportunity to assault the Anthonys and wrap it into some kind of higher justification. Their criminal behavior proves NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. THe fact that the police refuse to enforce the law is going to give Baez a lot of leeway publicity wise for Casey and the Anthonys. The protesters are behaving like criminals themselves, as determined by their actions. Terrorizing people is NEVER the morally right thing to do, not to mention that the protesters are acting like common trailer trash. They really should pack their toothbrushes, because sooner or later, one of them is going to commit a violent crime against the Anthonys and go to jail, where all of them belong. What is especially shocking to me is that they take their children to protest, and that is definitely child endangerment with the tensions and potential for violence that is taking place. Once the violence starts, the children won't be safe. That's no place for children. Maybe the protesters need to be charged with child endangerment. Either way, its starting to look like the pot calling the kettle black. These "protesters" need to go home and see to their own loves. Not one of them is helping anything by protesting. In fact, if the cops continue to decline to enforce the law, that may actually be a constitutional issue for Casey to pursue.


The Anthony's need to get off THEIR azzes and look for that precious littleone. PERIOD. STOP taking donations for a search that is NOT happening...and stay in the house.

Period.

jmo

[happy2bme]

No, not anything meaningful.

No I meant the part with her not calling 911 when her child was missing and then calling over protestors. Would not calling 911 to report a missing child contribute to child neglect?

[5boxersmom]

IIRC, George said he needed the wedges because he had plans on rotating Cindy's tires on the upcoming "weekend". My question: Did George ever FIND or retrieve those wedges that he claimed he needed? Has it ever been mentioned that you're aware of? TIA

I never heard them mentioned again.:shrug:

Maybe he was inbetween jobs at this time? This happen at 2:30 if he was working that day he should have already been there right?

jmo

Caylee:rose:

[aubrey04]

You can post that all day & it will still be untrue.

She never stated her name.

Hence the fact that she is asked twice.

Right. She NEVER stated her name. In fact, the second time they asked she said she was "the resident". Complete avoidance, IMO.

[rosejustrose]

Don't worry , he'll get over it .... after they kiss and make up

I'm sure she'll be down on her knees..........




Begging for forgiveness, of course!:eek:

[day2day]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck25mobilecam.html

can anyone identify this building?

[not.another]

[QUOTE=LeslieK;12142140]What proof is that that she killed Caylee? I am certain that Casey is guilty, but I believe in the justice system, not vigilantism. How does the criminal behavior of the protesters prove anything about this case? What is happening is a bunch of bullies have seized the opportunity to assault the Anthonys and wrap it into some kind of higher justification. Their criminal behavior proves NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. THe fact that the police refuse to enforce the law is going to give Baez a lot of leeway publicity wise for Casey and the Anthonys.

snipped for space

Sorry, how have the police refused to enforce the law? The first 911 call last night came from Cindy before George even went outside. The police came and left. Thugs left. Thugs came back later and police were called by Casey.

[rosejustrose]

Stay in the home and what? Wait till the idiot protesters come inside and comit violence against them?


Do you really think that would have happened? I don't. I think these protesters have the Anthonys # and know exactly what buttons to push. If the A's would have called LE and stayed inside there would not have been a physical altercation. FGS. JMO.

[happy2bme]

Yes, I would think so. But calling LE at a later time for a different reason would not.



Okay I see what your saying but you have to admit it does not look good for her.

[rosejustrose]

And don't forget she had sexual relations with three of them also. You don't usually do that with people you don't trust.


True, but they were out of uniform:hat:

[Dogmatic]

What proof is that that she killed Caylee? I am certain that Casey is guilty, but I believe in the justice system, not vigilantism. How does the criminal behavior of the protesters prove anything about this case? What is happening is a bunch of bullies have seized the opportunity to assault the Anthonys and wrap it into some kind of higher justification. Their criminal behavior proves NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. THe fact that the police refuse to enforce the law is going to give Baez a lot of leeway publicity wise for Casey and the Anthonys. The protesters are behaving like criminals themselves, as determined by their actions. Terrorizing people is NEVER the morally right thing to do, not to mention that the protesters are acting like common trailer trash. They really should pack their toothbrushes, because sooner or later, one of them is going to commit a violent crime against the Anthonys and go to jail, where all of them belong. What is especially shocking to me is that they take their children to protest, and that is definitely child endangerment with the tensions and potential for violence that is taking place. Once the violence starts, the children won't be safe. That's no place for children. Maybe the protesters need to be charged with child endangerment. Either way, its starting to look like the pot calling the kettle black. These "protesters" need to go home and see to their own loves. Not one of them is helping anything by protesting. In fact, if the cops continue to decline to enforce the law, that may actually be a constitutional issue for Casey to pursue.


Cops can only enforce the laws. they cannot re-write them. A Judge said it was ok for them to continue to protest. Cops can't park there 24/7.

I agree the protesters are serving no useful purpose at this time and are attracting idiots who want their mugs on t.v.
I hope the President of the Homeowners Association gets a judge to sign off on a ban.

[SavannahStar]

She is asked by two different people...not by the same person, so that doesn't mean that she didn't answer the first time, just that once a different person got on, they asked again. After the dispatcher asked, I hear the beginning of the word "This" and then silence...picking back up where she says this needs to stop, blah blah blah.

Since we KNOW that some things were redacted here(you can hear the 4 of the address before it goes silent indicating that she as giving her address which is also not included in the tape), it is not a fact that she was asked her name and she didn't respond. It is a fact that she was asked her name and we cannot hear her give it. Doesn't mean it wasn't. JMO

Exactly. You got it. :beer:

[trich]

If someone breaks into your home and you do what you have to do to protect yourself, your family and your belongings that is permitted in the eyes of the law.
But if you attack someone who is on your property it is not ok in the eyes of the law.
Scerniao:
If you shoot someone who has broken into your house and that person is inside your house uninvited you have right to do so.
but if they are outside your house and you shoot them because you think they are going to enter your house it is not ok.

I believe I am correct on this.

[rosejustrose]

Did he say he was working that day? I thought he was going to rotate tires?

jmo

Caylee:rose:


IIRC he said he was looking for a jack-like tool to raise the car to rotate the tires and that the tool was in Casey's trunk. It was then he found Caylee. Sorry, I mean the gas cans. :o

[beetlebrow]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck25mobilecam.html

can anyone identify this building?


Looks like the police station OR......a donut shop :biggrin:

[desmom]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck25mobilecam.html

can anyone identify this building?


A cop shop. :tongue:

[OneUp]

Okay, now I understand what you're getting at! Thanks for the clarification. Nope, don't need any links or photo links about the shamrock cap; I've seen pics of Annie wearing it, as well as Caylee.

Aside from Lorraine finding the shredded cap in the A's trash, I'm interested in your theory about why you think Annie has betrayed Casey.

Also, I'm wondering if you or anyone knows if Casey was with someone on the day she had the 'beautiful life' tattoo applied, or did she go alone?I can't remember...I'm thinking someone was with her, but I'll have to check ( sorry again, my computer is slowed up and i can only wait for it long enough at night).
I am in part thinking that Casey may feel "betrayed" by Annie just because she has made no known statements supporting Casey...and all of Casey's friends seemed to have left the building...unless one counts Holly ( IMO, she and Lenny carry badges for the same Media club).
I think that she thinks they have all betrayed her, not just Annie, because they aren't helping her. All Just based on what I've seen of her personality, and what my education tells me about people with those traits.
JMO.

[trt]

IIRC, George said he needed the wedges because he had plans on rotating Cindy's tires on the upcoming "weekend". My question: Did George ever FIND or retrieve those wedges that he claimed he needed? Has it ever been mentioned that you're aware of? TIA

I don't think they were every mentioned again...but this begs the question: If he was going there for something he needed, and they hadn't seen Casey since the 15th (or 16th if you believe George...I don't) , how was he sure he would be able to get them from Casey in order to do Cindy's tires that weekend(meaning, he already had plans to do the tires, but what he needed was in Casey's trunk and they hadn't seen or heard from her supposedly)? The whole 24th story is just weird, IMO.

[Shellberry]

You're right,,, I imagine they were parked down the road enjoying their donuts and videotaping the whole thing for Carps and giggles!
What on earth could have taken them all those minutes to get to the scene?
...On a serious note. My 'Puter is still dragging along, how long was the entire taped confrontation? Did it even last 15 minutes from when the A,'s came out until the drunken whatevers left?
JMO or whatever.
if the cops were anywhere in sight, I doubt they would have sit back and watch cindy with the bat.
Of course we don't think they should. I think faced with a like situation, it would be hard not to.exactly

Why? B/c they tried to find her missing child?

I would find Caseys "fear" of the LE more conviencing had she not slept with 3 of them.

The LE has done what Casey failed to do.
I think caseys fear with LE-is that she may have slept with a lot of them

and that is exactly WHY they should have stayed in the house.
IMO what would you do if someone was at your door, shining a light in the window and throwing crap?
not in this situation--but ANY situation.
just plain old vandals say?
just plain old punks looking to cause trouble?

If that's the case, then that is my mistake, for which I deserve :flamemad:

I was only going by what I saw when I clicked a link, it didn't include them knocking on the door.
no- I saw the same thing earlier, I apologize, wasnt 'picking' or anything at you in particular.



Orange County Cmdr. Rick Luckey strongly disagrees with you -

"Luckey said the protesters could have charges filed against them because they were the primary aggressors.


"[George Anthony] has the right to protect himself and his property," Luckey said. "He doesn't know what the protesters' intentions are or what they are trying to do."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story?page=2
exactly, just like we all have the right-to do on our own property.





imo/jmo

[rosejustrose]

Why not?

Was there only one baseball bat in the house?

There could have been an AK47 assault weapon in the house and Casey would have stayed hidden behind closed doors. She's not going to take on anyone that weighs more than 30 pounds or stands taller than 3 feet IMO.:mad:

Coward, that's what she is, a cowardly, lying, theiving, tramp and baby killer. JMO (and probably 90% of the free world's opinion).

[SavannahStar]

What proof is that that she killed Caylee? I am certain that Casey is guilty, but I believe in the justice system, not vigilantism. How does the criminal behavior of the protesters prove anything about this case? What is happening is a bunch of bullies have seized the opportunity to assault the Anthonys and wrap it into some kind of higher justification. Their criminal behavior proves NOTHING. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. THe fact that the police refuse to enforce the law is going to give Baez a lot of leeway publicity wise for Casey and the Anthonys. The protesters are behaving like criminals themselves, as determined by their actions. Terrorizing people is NEVER the morally right thing to do, not to mention that the protesters are acting like common trailer trash. They really should pack their toothbrushes, because sooner or later, one of them is going to commit a violent crime against the Anthonys and go to jail, where all of them belong. What is especially shocking to me is that they take their children to protest, and that is definitely child endangerment with the tensions and potential for violence that is taking place. Once the violence starts, the children won't be safe. That's no place for children. Maybe the protesters need to be charged with child endangerment. Either way, its starting to look like the pot calling the kettle black. These "protesters" need to go home and see to their own loves. Not one of them is helping anything by protesting. In fact, if the cops continue to decline to enforce the law, that may actually be a constitutional issue for Casey to pursue.

I hope you continue to post here, and often.


Big ditto! A voice of reason! :beer:

[WillowInFlight]

cam back on house

[barskin&co.]

"I'm Casey Anthony..the mother of misplaced Caylee Anthony"barf


And they didn't ask if she was a resident or a protestor, anyway. She was calling from inside the house. She was demanding that they police come, because of the protestors outside. And the operator asked, "who is this?"

[farrahrani]

And the incident will prove she has good reason to distrust LE.
imo

Could you please elaborate?
LE had been called to the house at least once prior to the penny throwing/waterfight incident. They had left not long before it got cranked up again and escalated.
They were then called again, and returned.

Are you saying that they should be stationed 24/7 to guard the Anthony property? Or that they should not be responded to in order of priority, but bumped to the top of the list, ahead of accident victims, violent crime in progress, etc. REAL emergencies that can't be avoided, unlike last night, when all they had to do was lock their doors and stay safe and wait for LE?

I find the insinuation that LE are untrustworthy in this case to be highly offensive. So far there has been no instances of misconduct during the course of this case, and to imply that LE would allow a situation to get out of control to simply spite a single ''person of interest'', resulting in possible injuries or worse is barf

[LeslieK]

I'm not joining in any they're right-they're wrong debates about the protesters or drive-by shouters or whatever. I'm just happy they're keeping the heat turned up, whether they should be there or not.


The problem is that the people who are affected didn't kill Caylee.....casey did and she doesn't care about her family. She's not going to crack. I listened to her interrogation tapes on NG and she's not about to lose it. She's an iceberg. Nothing is being accomplished by these "protesters." If the current situation is allowed to continue, someone will be hurt or killed. In addition to that, why do these protesters have their children there? What on earth would possess them to take their little children to such a dangerous situation? And I can promise you, when one of the protesters goes too far, and they will, the cops will come down on them like the berlin wall. Don't these people have lives? They're no longer searching, from what I understand, so these people are leaving their homes to go vandalize, harrass and threaten and assault the Anthonys. Its ridiculous and it could rise to the level of a constitutional issue. The cops can't decide who they will and will not enforce the law for. Its unconstitutional for them to refuse to enforce the law to protect the rights of the Anthonys and their neighbors simply because Casey is a suspect.

[Rebel Rouzer]

No I meant the part with her not calling 911 when her child was missing and then calling over protestors. Would not calling 911 to report a missing child contribute to child neglect?


I take it there was no breaking news while i was gone.

Yes failure to report your child missing is child neglect. You would think reporting your child missing would be more cause to call 911 than calling about a disturbance or confrontaion with protesters. Weghing the importence i'd be calling 911 because my child went missing. Thats just me though.

[day2day]

ITA!!!...They need to STOP asking for GIFT cards to aid in a search that IS NOT happening. The profitting off of Caylee sickens me to no end. If they DONT want to search they need to leave TIM MILLER ALONE while he and others DO search.

They need to STOP bouncing out of the garage with weapons when the protesters come and call 911.

Yep..they are proving themselves daily. They really DONT want this to be about Caylee..it has to be all about them. How many times do they even utter her name?

They take hard working peoples money for searches they have NOT participated in. They disregard the sound advice that LE gives them.

Pfft...this makes me so mad.


jmo

[bballgrl]

Cindy called 911 first. Then Casey made two 911 calls.

As a matter of fact, some kept posting this morning, "they should just stay inside. Call LE!" Well......Cindy did call 911 BEFORE anyone went outside. She asked that LE come to the house; she was afraid George was going outside..she was trying to stop him.


So, are you saying that it is George who can not follow instructions? I don't understand why he felt the need to GO outside. That is what everybody is talking about. This has been going on for sometime. Let LE do their job and come out to the house and take care of the protestors. If somebody gets hurt, it's because the A's should just stay inside when the protestors are rowdy. It doesn't make sense to wear red in front of a bull. It's called self preservation. :chicken:

[SavannahStar]

When they asked her if she as a protester or a resident, should she have answered, "I'm Casey"?

:lol: Exactly! I guess everyone missed the question. :shrug:

[Boxer]

The 911 operator did say, at least in Caseys call, to stay inside.

But, they apparebtly li8ke to mix it up, so they went out anyway.

Can you IMAGINE the violence if casey had opened the fromt door to thell her parents 911 says don't go outside.

To me, this is not protesting.

And I wish G&C would grow up.


protestors armed with 23 cents and Team Anthony grabs an aluminum bat....

[Shellberry]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck25mobilecam.html

can anyone identify this building?

I dont know what that is, but I was watching that cam earlier and they were in a bar.





imo/jmo

[trich]

Thats not necessarily true. If their perception of danger is that of a reasonable person, under the same circumstances, would be the test to determine justified force.


Well too many people have been tried for shooting people that they THOUGHT were going to invade their home but had not.
Many an LE will tell people don't shoot unless they are inside your home.

The fact remains that the Anthony's should never have come out to confront the protestors.
Had they ignored them they would have eventually gone away and that would have been the end of it.
You would thnk the Anthony's lawyer would have told them to keep their butts in the house when protestors
are there.
It is the most logical thing to do.
But then nothing they do is logical or makes sense.

[aubrey04]

If someone breaks into your home and you do what you have to do to protect yourself, your family and your belongings that is permitted in the eyes of the law.
But if you attack someone who is on your property it is not ok in the eyes of the law.
Scerniao:
If you shoot someone who has broken into your house and that person is inside your house uninvited you have right to do so.
but if they are outside your house and you shoot them because you think they are going to enter your house it is not ok.

I believe I am correct on this.

It depends on the state. The "castle doctrine" in Texas (and I believe other states) lets home owners protect their property. It protected Joe Horn when he shot the robbers of a house next door to him. They were fleeing but under Texas law - you can shoot to protect yourself, your property AND third person's property.

Don't know what type of laws they have in Florida in that regard though.

[bballgrl]

Has there been any mention of the TES bombshell yet? The "surprising" news? I haven't seen anything - I may have missed something. TIA

[rosejustrose]

she was applying herself and came across zanny's info. IMO. she had just left her parent's house, already knew someone in the development and went into the office. Probably picked up the info in the office when no one was present. Not sure why she used the "fernandez" part though.


It's just that little bit of extra detail that pathological liars add to make their lies seem credible, IMO. I'm sure a Fernandez will show up in her many conquests, high school friends, former co-workers, etc. What's up though with the spanish connection? JMO.

[day2day]

I dont know what that is, but I was watching that cam earlier and they were in a bar.





imo/jmo

Hmm a bar..a cop shop! Maybe they are doin a story from all of casey's ex-boyfriends homes...

i'm just sayin...

jmo

[beetlebrow]

I dont know what that is, but I was watching that cam earlier and they were in a bar.





imo/jmo

Well.......they were probably looking for Caylee's kidnappers :hat:

[concernedmom]

protestors armed with 23 cents and Team Anthony grabs an aluminum bat....

:lol::lol:

[SavannahStar]

Has there been any mention of the TES bombshell yet? The "surprising" news? I haven't seen anything - I may have missed something. TIA

Nope. If we had we'd be discussing that instead of Casey's 911 call. :D I'm not holding my breath waiting for any news from TES. (Though I HOPE, as always, we get some breaking news. Never seems to come though.)

[bballgrl]

I agree, and last nights pathetic display from the pretend protesters may have very well served to poison their own supposed "cause".

To be honest.. I think that those people last night were just there looking for a fight. They thought they could start trouble and get away with it under the guise of "Protest". I believe they were probaably drunk. I do not condone that group, but I don't think that all protestors can be painted with the same brush.....

Most of the protestors have an actual cause... these peeps were looking for some action. (IMO)

[bballgrl]

Nope. If we had we'd be discussing that instead of Casey's 911 call. :D I'm not holding my breath waiting for any news from TES. (Though I HOPE, as always, we get some breaking news. Never seems to come though.)

*sigh* I agree... these protestors are getting tiresome. LOL