Caylee Anthony Thurs.09-18-08 A.M thread [Archive] - Page 2

ellegna

09-18-2008, 10:50 AM

I'm beginning to have serious doubts/concerns about this anonymous bail bond donor's motive and I don't believe it had anything to do with Casey's constitutional right to be bailed out.

Surely this person(s) sees the chaos at the Anthony home and must be concerned for their safety? Even the Padillas admitted they couldn't guarantee Casey's safety anymore.
Could it be that's exactly what this anonymous person wanted? Sensationalism !!!
I'm beginning to believe some network, movie studio or publishing firm put up the money. I don't think they give a hoot what happens at that house as long as they get material for whatever project they're planning.

If the donor is a private individual, I would like to think they have the Anthony's best interest at heart and send Casey back to jail before someone gets hurt.

Rayosunshine

09-18-2008, 10:50 AM

"With a baseball bat in hand, Cindy and George walked down their driveway toward the protestors and exchanged words."
I wish we had a head shaking smilie...
Again, how are these two not instigating escalation? Why not call the police if your peace is being disturbed...even when protesting, other laws must be observed.
I cannot believe that the police on site didn't take action when the saw them approach people with a weapon, things NEVER should have been allowed to reach a point of physical contact w/o the police stepping in since they were there witnesssing the incident. . Do you want to bet their are a couple of officers who are in deep Doo-Doo this A.M.?
JMO.

Funny thing - never saw the bat being raised as in assault. Did see George being grabbed as in battery.
Funny thing - never saw George or Cindy put their hands on anyone, in this instance.

Battery big time and videotaped.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

martha

09-18-2008, 10:50 AM

Good morning everyone. Is there anything new today? I have missed everthing that has been going on for a few days. Guess nothing new on CAYLEE, Is everything quite at the anthony house? The only thing I get about this cas is on ng and she has not had anything new. she keeps playing those tapes all the time. Thanks anyway I will check back in sometimes today. you all have a very good day. :rose:

Regina.Lampert

09-18-2008, 10:50 AM

George is out fixing the yellow tape.:rolleyes:

Is it Hammer time already???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cszWlq-Nds

hammer

hammer

WillowInFlight

09-18-2008, 10:50 AM

Is that a new sign in the yard?
I'm not sure. I wonder where the billboard is.

Boxer

09-18-2008, 10:50 AM

Whatever floats your boat. If everyone agrees, there's not much real discussion/debate. Just jokes and high-fives and roses.

oh my! lol:rose:

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 10:51 AM

I only saw 6 protestors and to me, it looked like a bunch of teenagers enjoying the fact that they could go and cause mischief. But, they made it a point to stay OFF Anthony property. They did not leave the sidewalk. Why didn't G and C just go back in the house sooner. Geez!

Maybe they had all been out drinking earlier, came up with the idea to go to the Anthony's, and left after the hosing figuring they could get arrested. :shrug:

marinewife5

09-18-2008, 10:52 AM

Is it Hammer time already???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cszWlq-Nds

hammer

hammer

it's always hammertime, baby!

day2day

09-18-2008, 10:53 AM

crymeariver2006

09-18-2008, 10:54 AM

kOOkie1

09-18-2008, 10:54 AM

Morning!! Good Lawd the Anthony's have Yellow Tape OCD!!!

day2day

09-18-2008, 10:55 AM

101Spots

09-18-2008, 10:55 AM

IMO, that is not correct.

I didn't think so. Unfortunately, that makes the remainder of the "cast of characters descriptions" suspect as to the truth of the information.

OneUp

09-18-2008, 10:55 AM

I just noticed this:
"Sheriff's office spokesman Jim Solomons said Casey Anthony -- the mother of missing 3-year-old Caylee Marie -- placed a second 911 call to the sheriff's office, telling the dispatch operator that her parents had been struck by the protestors."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

I wonder how she (Casey) felt...actually calling the LE to come to the house. Strikes me as pretty ironic.Very...I guess she has overcome her fear that LE will try to "pin" everything on her...too bad she couldn't quash this fear in time to report her daughter "missing", isn't it?
JMO.

WillowInFlight

09-18-2008, 10:57 AM

Hmm...Grandpa claims he searches for Caylee 24/7. NOT funny-its a da$n lie. jmo
And I wonder what Casey is doing to help find her daughter. I do have a question though, if the grandparents have cracked and told Baez that they know Caylee is dead, is he bound by the law to tell LE or does that fall under lawyer/client privileges ?

Fallen Angel

09-18-2008, 10:57 AM

I just watched the video of the protestors grabbbing Georges shirt. Its time the LE steps in and does something because if they continue to let things get out of control someones going to get hurt or killed.

and meanwhile Casey's probably inside on her computer chatting :cuss:

OneUp

09-18-2008, 10:58 AM

I don't think that these thugs can be called 'protesters.'
I doubt that any injunction on demonstrators would have an effect on the bullies who came to Hopespring Dr to torment and assault the Anthony's. They are far beyond the bounds of staging a protest.

The right thing for the Anthony's to do in this situation is to go into a safe house until the trial. They seem to have plenty of money lately.
It is unfair to the neighbors to have to deal with more criminals in the neighborhood. The situation does grow more violent and dangerous daily.

jmhoI agree blu, since they seem to have "adequate" cash flow now somehow...:rolleyes:...why not have one of their attorneys lease a place in a gated community.
I doubt most of the protesters would stay if they had to stay waaaayyyy down by the gates and wait for the car to drive by. Maybe the real zealots would, but not the drive-by thrill seekers.
JMO.
ETA: I do understand they might have trouble leasing something in such a place, but there are also vacay properties onlarger acreage that would be gated at the entrance...I'm sure the lawyers could persuade a judge to approve such a move given the altercations...and the Family could certainly add security to patrol the vicinity of the house IMO.

Regina.Lampert

09-18-2008, 10:58 AM

Maybe they had all been out drinking earlier, came up with the idea to go to the Anthony's, and left after the hosing figuring they could get arrested. :shrug:

I'm waiting for the next bunch of protestors to arrive armed with super soakers to fire back at the hose trigger happy anthonys.

SavannahStar

09-18-2008, 10:58 AM

Crossin ts and dottin i's...they dont want manslaughter..they want murder one..jmo

I kinda agree with that as far as the hold-up. It does seem SO long though.......

brodysho

09-18-2008, 10:59 AM

I'm going to have to disagree with the majority of the posters. I am particularly upset because these protesters are making me defend the anthonys of all people!
I'm sorry but if people were throwing crap at my windows and shining flashlights in them, I would've been out there with a bat too. Yeah, I know i'm gonna get flack for saying that, but I'm just being honest.
The police don't seem to be doing a good job of holding the peace around there, but I also don't think there resources should be spent there also. Those protesters/mobs need to be moved to that vacant lot that I've been hearing about.

None of this helps finding caylee. These protesters are just out to look for trouble.

Boxer

09-18-2008, 10:59 AM

Right, but at what point do we all step into reality knowing that basically in the hot FLorida sun, with all the storms lately, why is anyone still holding out for finding the body, chances are realy, really slim, even Tim and all those wonderful people didn't recover her, and they tried so hard!!

So when do we get past this, oh they need a body to successfully prosecute, I mean for the first time last night I was laying in bed watching Nancy and I realized how crazy Casey really is.

She actually takes the detectives to Universal, goes to her office, then says, oops, I dont work here. Right then and there they go to a room and interview her, she admits she hasn't worked there since 2006.

About 15 minutes later when questioned about the phone that Zenaida used to call her, Casey then goes on about how she lost her phone and made a claim with Universal 6 weeks back, when she had just admitted she hadn't been there in 2 years!

Blows my mind, I mean how does one explain that?

With all this evidence of how out of it this chick really is, they dont need a body especially when they have the stain that indicates Caylee is dead. SO what is the hold up!!!!!!!!! moo

wish I knew. I just know that she is maintaning her crazy level with encouragement from those around her. Her lawyer can't possibly want a body found. Or her parents. George got in a dig at EquuSearch in that video with the reporter. Cindy is melting and Casey is strutting out of the jail down the yellow brick road hand in hand with the attorney. Maybe it was the crush of media, but the camera angle I got says different.

Why is George going to his old LE buddies for help and won't tell who they are? It was said in the bond hearing that Casey told a private investigator that Caylee was gone, some old friend of hers. Was that Juliette or Jeff? Cuz she told the police that she only told those two. Lee making statements that he is working with the FBI and anything else he cannot comment on.

This record seems to be scratched cuz it's repeating and repeating and repeating.

day2day

09-18-2008, 10:59 AM

And I wonder what Casey is doing to help find her daughter. I do have a question though, if the grandparents have cracked and told Baez that they know Caylee is dead, is he bound by the law to tell LE or does that fall under lawyer/client privileges ?

Well they swore when she got out she would help. Pfft..what lie number was that?
IMO since Baez is not their attorney it would not be attorney/client privilege..

GrandmaGA

09-18-2008, 11:01 AM

boonboo

09-18-2008, 11:02 AM

I just wanna know why they are calling 911 to report protesters?? It hasnt been 31 days since they have been there protesting......

o wait they need to vacate the scene for 31 days......

OneUp

09-18-2008, 11:03 AM

I don't think these security guards are actually security guards. I think they are bit players in Jose Baez's new script. I don't think they are there to protect that family.
I am under the impression that they are Casey's guards, they never do anything to get involved with george and Cindy when the shikaka hits the fan...not that I have heard of anyway. The BG's accompanied her from jail, etc. I think they are hired only for Casey.
JMO.

EGirl

09-18-2008, 11:03 AM

Velouria

09-18-2008, 11:03 AM

Witch hunt???
Isn't that just a little dramatic, Savannah?

Are we following the same case???

:shrug:

IMO there's no need for a witch hunt...everyone knows where she lives.

Did anyone else catch this at the end of the following article?

http://www.local6.com/news/17501847/detail.html

Quote:
"In the interview, Cindy Anthony said investigators told her weeks ago about evidence from the body farm.

According to investigators, the evidence suggests that Caylee is dead.

Cindy Anthony said she believes it was an intimidation tactic."

:rolleyes:

johnielee333

09-18-2008, 11:04 AM

i'm sorry, but i think those protesters last night are wrong. they were doing whatever they could to pizz off the anthonys. i really believe the cops are wrong too. they should have stopped it.

FeelinFroggy617

09-18-2008, 11:04 AM

Hmm...Grandpa claims he searches for Caylee 24/7. NOT funny-its a da$n lie. jmo

Good morning everyone! Hoping this is a day where some good news comes in!
I was listening to NG last night and she was playing the tapes again.... I don't think I can get over how astonished I feel when I sit and listen to her lie about everything. When she is sitting there saying how she went to work that day like any other normal day for her and all the lies about the 2 cell phones that were from her job at Universal... etc. I could go on and on. She is sitting there looking at them face to face....and flat out lying about everything! And then she actually takes them to her "office"!! Come on! It just amazes me the lack of emotion she has talking about her "missing" child! Her voice is FLAT!!! I know we've talked about this a lot and I'm sorry to post this again but it just scares me of what Casey really did with Caylee.

For Caylee :rose:

FeelinFroggy617

09-18-2008, 11:05 AM

Good morning boxer.good morning all.:seeya:
link to camera for those needing or wanting it.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Mine is frozen! Poor George has been bent over like that for the past 30 minutes!! Anyone else having the same problem?

brodysho

09-18-2008, 11:06 AM

Ok, so if the cops want to play hard with Casey, how about this?

Why not arrest George and Cindy under suspicion they know something about what happened to Caylee? Would Casey crack then? I am sure she would be pleased she finally got their house. But we all know that house is probably bugged and someone who is very lucky has the job of listening to everything that goes on there, and I am sure if Casey cracked to George and Cindy, she would in in jail right now for murder.

If George and Cindy knew that Casey did something sinister to Caylee it would have to have been discussed before the cops were even called and made aware, so what dumb criminals who are trying to cover up a dead child call the cops and get them in on it?

So basically they probably have nothing to haul Cindy and George in, but it would be interesting to see what the princess would do at that point. moo

Princess would do nothing. She only cares about saving her own skin. I couldn't imagine stealing 10 dollars from my mom, let alone thousands.
Her past actions just shows how little she cares about anyone.

oldbluesmith

09-18-2008, 11:06 AM

IMO, (throw pennies if you want), the whole thing was staged.

George out there ranting about "paid protesters", injunction re-filed last night, attorney out saying school buses nor garbage trucks could get thru (even though they don't normally run at 7 or 8 p.m.), George and Cindy fully dressed, Cindy carrying a bat but never raising it, Casey calling 911, etc.

What better evidence to take to a judge who's considering usurping first amendment rights?

Fire away!Just one small clarification, I watched the video and at the beginning, Cindy did raise the bat by swinging it back while she was behind George, like she was going to hit a pitched baseball. It would have hit George in the back since he was between her and the protestors. JMHO

Boxer

09-18-2008, 11:06 AM

Ok, so if the cops want to play hard with Casey, how about this?

Why not arrest George and Cindy under suspicion they know something about what happened to Caylee? Would Casey crack then? I am sure she would be pleased she finally got their house. But we all know that house is probably bugged and someone who is very lucky has the job of listening to everything that goes on there, and I am sure if Casey cracked to George and Cindy, she would in in jail right now for murder.

If George and Cindy knew that Casey did something sinister to Caylee it would have to have been discussed before the cops were even called and made aware, so what dumb criminals who are trying to cover up a dead child call the cops and get them in on it?

So basically they probably have nothing to haul Cindy and George in, but it would be interesting to see what the princess would do at that point. moo

I'm going with George and Cindy knew something was up on the 7th, the 8th, the 9th, the 15th or the 16th

MyrDawn

09-18-2008, 11:07 AM

Ok, so if the cops want to play hard with Casey, how about this?

Why not arrest George and Cindy under suspicion they know something about what happened to Caylee? Would Casey crack then? I am sure she would be pleased she finally got their house. But we all know that house is probably bugged and someone who is very lucky has the job of listening to everything that goes on there, and I am sure if Casey cracked to George and Cindy, she would in in jail right now for murder.

If George and Cindy knew that Casey did something sinister to Caylee it would have to have been discussed before the cops were even called and made aware, so what dumb criminals who are trying to cover up a dead child call the cops and get them in on it?

So basically they probably have nothing to haul Cindy and George in, but it would be interesting to see what the princess would do at that point. moo

If they have nothing to haul C and G in on, wouldn't arresting them leave the LE open for a false arrest lawsuit?

Boxer

09-18-2008, 11:07 AM

Just one small clarification, I watched the video and at the beginning, Cindy did raise the bat by swinging it back while she was behind George, like she was going to hit a pitched baseball. It would have hit George in the back since he was between her and the protestors. JMHO

freudian swing

WillowInFlight

09-18-2008, 11:08 AM

Velouria

09-18-2008, 11:08 AM

Yes someone will get seriously hurt or killed but that is what many people want including LE IMO.

Oh yes, you see we're all just sitting here, waiting for someone else to be killed, because the job of repeatedly chastising other posters has already been filled.

Velouria

09-18-2008, 11:09 AM

I wonder if George and Cindy came off sounding so foolish before
this mess?

Maybe they're just not too bright? :shrug:

I dunno...maybe she thought it would make more sense in Spanish?

Boxer

09-18-2008, 11:09 AM

I am under the impression that they are Casey's guards, they never do anything to get involved with george and Cindy when the shikaka hits the fan...not that I have heard of anyway. The BG's accompanied her from jail, etc. I think they are hired only for Casey.
JMO.

I agree they were hire for Casey but only as stunt body guards

shelbar53

09-18-2008, 11:09 AM

Hello to ALL! Well guys I have been told by my hubby that I am suffering from OCD in reference to this case. Examples: I have the 400 page document and had already read it all before news and Nancy Grace had even acknowledge that it existed. I search deep for new posts and clues HOURLY at work and home! I TIVO everything that has to do with the case and sit up at night and watch it! It all started because I GREW UP WITH A COMPULSIVE LIAR JUST LIKE CASEY IN MY HOUSE N I WAS ALWAYS THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD TELL WHEN SHE WAS LYING N CRACK THE CASE! I have always had the ability even when I meant strangers ANYWHO :o

THE CHLOROFORM THAT IS INVOLVED IS WHAT CASEY USED TO ATTEMPT TO COVER UP WHAT SHE HAD DONE! This girl (Casey) has said that she watches all these cases on TV about crime, kidnappings, people being harmed, etc etc. OKAY GUYS... YOU CAN WATCH FIRST 48, CSI, and shows of that sort and learn how to get away with murder! First 48 comes to mind with her b/c she is now playing the role wher eif you dont crack in the 1st 48 its likely the case would go cold. Half the crimes are not punishable if the suspect is not supplying info. She knows that. Back to the chloroform, I do not believe she used the chloroform on Caylee. SHE USED THE CHLOROFORM TO TRY N DESTROY THE EVIDENCE OF CAYLEE BEING IN THE TRUNK. I learned from an Undercover show AND RESEARCH that it is said that Chloroform destroys DNA evidence. Thats what she used it for.

My theory:
Caylee drowned in the back yard. Casey freaked. AND buried the poor child there first. (Thats why the cadever dogs hit in the backyard.) When realizing that she would be caught b/c that was the 1st place OLE would look she dug this baby up, but her in the trunk and disposed of her. She went back and tried to use the chloroform to CLEAN the trunk to get rid of the dna evidence that would have been left. And yes 1 out of the 3 (if not all) of those family members KNOW what happened and are covering for her b/c they feel like it was really an accident. Thats why the poured the concrete slab. They really dont feel like she meant to do it so are in her corner. But it went from Accident to just plain CRIMINAL INTENT within a matter of days.

I could go on and on. Opinions please

Hmmmm that seems reasonable. But when enough be enough for the A's...how long will they let this circus go on?

desmom

09-18-2008, 11:09 AM

And Cindy and George should have stayed in the house. They were just fueling the fire.

Exactly!

.
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need2no

09-18-2008, 11:09 AM

Mine is frozen! Poor George has been bent over like that for the past 30 minutes!! Anyone else having the same problem?

It finally flipped...George is gone from sidewalk...garage door is closed.

Fallen Angel

09-18-2008, 11:10 AM

Yes someone will get seriously hurt or killed but that is what many people want including LE IMO.

what a load of Bull Stuff.......you think the LE want someone KILLED or SERIOUSLY HURT? how do you come up with this non sense?? :punch:

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:11 AM

Yes someone will get seriously hurt or killed but that is what many people want including LE IMO.

The tin foil hat making class starts tonight at 9pm sharp. You are invited to attend. Kool-Aid will be served as refreshments.

barskin&co.

09-18-2008, 11:11 AM

Right, but at what point do we all step into reality knowing that basically in the hot FLorida sun, with all the storms lately, why is anyone still holding out for finding the body, chances are realy, really slim, even Tim and all those wonderful people didn't recover her, and they tried so hard!!

So when do we get past this, oh they need a body to successfully prosecute, I mean for the first time last night I was laying in bed watching Nancy and I realized how crazy Casey really is.

She actually takes the detectives to Universal, goes to her office, then says, oops, I dont work here. Right then and there they go to a room and interview her, she admits she hasn't worked there since 2006.

About 15 minutes later when questioned about the phone that Zenaida used to call her, Casey then goes on about how she lost her phone and made a claim with Universal 6 weeks back, when she had just admitted she hadn't been there in 2 years!

Blows my mind, I mean how does one explain that?

With all this evidence of how out of it this chick really is, they dont need a body especially when they have the stain that indicates Caylee is dead. SO what is the hold up!!!!!!!!! moo

What's the rush? Casey isn't going anywhere. It would be better for Caylee's remains to be found. I believe they will charge her with murder before they have to go to court on the current neglect/filing a false police report charges, but, until then, they are going to make sure all their ducks are in a row. The second they do charge her with more, the clock starts ticking; they want to be ready.

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:13 AM

Good morning everyone! Hoping this is a day where some good news comes in!
I was listening to NG last night and she was playing the tapes again.... I don't think I can get over how astonished I feel when I sit and listen to her lie about everything. When she is sitting there saying how she went to work that day like any other normal day for her and all the lies about the 2 cell phones that were from her job at Universal... etc. I could go on and on. She is sitting there looking at them face to face....and flat out lying about everything! And then she actually takes them to her "office"!! Come on! It just amazes me the lack of emotion she has talking about her "missing" child! Her voice is FLAT!!! I know we've talked about this a lot and I'm sorry to post this again but it just scares me of what Casey really did with Caylee.

For Caylee :rose:

mornin...:seeya:

Yep..whatever she did to poor little Caylee it never phased her one bit. She never skipped a beat. She is a bold faced liar. She has no remorse.
I pray that she is punished for this...
jmo...:(

johnielee333

09-18-2008, 11:14 AM

casey has a right to be bailed out of jail. she has a right to be home.
she has this right because she lives in the USA. now dont get me wrong, i do want her back in jail but its not up to me.

the protesters have a right to protest. but when they get loud,violent,disruptive & seem to be there just to cause trouble then they should be stopped.

deep*fear

09-18-2008, 11:15 AM

Whatever floats your boat. If everyone agrees, there's not much real discussion/debate. Just jokes and high-fives and roses.

:beer:
:rose:

Mrs.Brea

09-18-2008, 11:15 AM

was Anthonys claiming they were throwing rocks?We all know they can not be trusted as lie so much.do you have a link maybe?Thanks.
If someone was throwing rocks and bottles they should have called police but instead chose to go out with a baseball bat.That would definitly escalate the problem.

moo

I agree they should have called the cops but it's what they have been doing from the start and the cops haven't been able to stop the protesters from getting out of line. It only takes so long before I would lash back too. The bottom line is the protesters need to get a life and go home. They are doing no good.

They are lucky all they got was a little wet.

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:15 AM

Yes someone will get seriously hurt or killed but that is what many people want including LE IMO.

Oh lawd. LE is bad. Press is bad. Anthony's are good. gotcha. You are wrong but i gotcha..

jmo

FeelinFroggy617

09-18-2008, 11:16 AM

I thought of another theory as to why Casey killed Caylee.

Correct me anyone if I am wrong on what I heard last night on NG.

Basically Cindy takes Caylee to see her grandpa at the nursing home, it is then she learns that Casey has been stealing money.

She returns home and confronts Casey, its very, very ugly.

I wonder if somehow Casey thought up killing Caylee and was going to make it look like an accident so that everyone in her family would get off her back about the money and her family would have more compassion about her losing her dead child then the stolen money?

moo

That is an excellent theory, imo. In her own mind, having Caylee "missing" it would be easier to deal with than facing the wrath of Cindy about the stolen money!

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 11:16 AM

And Cindy and George should have stayed in the house. They were just fueling the fire.

Yes and if the protesters were throwing things at the house then they should have just picked up the phone and called police and let them handle it. What reason was there for them to go outside and confront the people that were there AGAIN?

If the people that gather there do something wrong or illegal or disturb the peace after certain hours then pick up the phone and call the police without confronting them otherwise learn to IGNORE what they say and yell at them. Why continuously respond to them and confront them? It fuels the fire and caues more drama and chaos. IMO

OneUp

09-18-2008, 11:17 AM

I feel as long as Casey is in that house, things will get worse..Won't surprise me if someone sets fire to it...I hope not, but it won't surprise me..
Onmy gosh kitty! i hadn't thought of that kitty! I won't be surprised either now that you bringit up...When i worked at the DV shelter, a man found my home Addie somehow and came to my home worked up because I "made" his wife leave him. He seta fire on my deck ( back door) and stood out front with a gun waiting for my daughter and I to come out and yelling obscenities. I called 911, and we were all fine...but the point is, there are people crazy enough to do something like that!
You just can't play with aggressive people! It's WORSE than playing with fire!
JMO.

brodysho

09-18-2008, 11:17 AM

What's the rush? Casey isn't going anywhere. It would be better for Caylee's remains to be found. I believe they will charge her with murder before they have to go to court on the current neglect/filing a false police report charges, but, until then, they are going to make sure all their ducks are in a row. The second they do charge her with more, the clock starts ticking; they want to be ready.
I pray to God you're right. I don't want this to become like the drew peterson ordeal. She's already walking around all smug like he was. That case just entirely disappeared.

Maybe kakax can help me with this, but didn't it take 2 years to convict Melanie Mcguire of murder?

That is the only thing that gives me hope when things like this take so long.

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:17 AM

No, no didn't you hear Cindy say they had 3 people out searching? Maybe one searches 7-3, the next 3-11 and the other one 11-7. :rolleyes:

pfft..i thought you meant 7-11 and i was gonna say they forgot to ask for GIFT CARDS for that store..hammer

I need coffee...lol!

Fallen Angel

09-18-2008, 11:17 AM

Oh lawd. LE is bad. Press is bad. Anthony's are good. gotcha. You are wrong but i gotcha..

jmo

can you believe that poster feels like the LE wants someone seriously hurt or DEAD?

VC2

09-18-2008, 11:17 AM

Excellent post!

I'm rather amazed that some folks don't think what those people did is wrong, and have turned it around so it's all the A's fault, once again.

What those people were doing was not protesting in any way, shape, or form. They do NOT have a Constitutional right to throw things at the house, come onto the private property to bang on the garage door, or shine flashlights in the windows.

I can't imagine how I'd react if I was woken up in the middle of the night to what they were doing. I know I'd have been scared silly, and probably would have called the police. But they don't always respond immediately. I certainly don't blame the A's for going out to see what all the racket was about, and taking a baseball bat in case they needed to protect themselves. They did NOT use the bat...they only carried it with them.

ITA! and i don't see it as the A's causing the problem, the thugs are causing the problem. They have every right to believe their creep of a daughter and have her out on bail just like we have the right to bail out our kids especially if we believe they are innocent. cindy and george did not invite them, they are thugs.

as far as blaming them for going out in their yard, i would too!!! some pigs throwing things at the house they would get an earful from me. Most ppl here would imo.

these thug vigilante's are the problem not the anthony's as far as what they choose to do and throwing rocks banging at the house should be illegal. I really think htat if some adult is found murdered out of town it will become the anthony's fault to some posters here.

IMO

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 11:18 AM

i'm sorry, but i think those protesters last night are wrong. they were doing whatever they could to pizz off the anthonys. i really believe the cops are wrong too. they should have stopped it.

I completely agree...the woman interviewed acted like they were heroes for trying to provoke the anthony's.....I've never seen anything like this ...it was the middle of the night!! The judge should have at the very least, set time limits for protesting....I just feel so sorry for the neighbors....

Boxer

09-18-2008, 11:19 AM

Yes and if the protesters were throwing things at the house then they should have just picked up the phone and called police and let them handle it. What reason was there for them to go outside and confront the people that were there AGAIN?

If the people that gather there do something wrong or illegal or disturb the peace after certain hours then pick up the phone and call the police without confronting them otherwise learn to IGNORE what they say and yell at them. Why continuously respond to them and confront them? It fuels the fire and caues more drama and chaos. IMO

yup! there's already been way too much confronting as it is.

personally, I think anyone who is there to legitimately protest won't mind giving their name on a sign in sheet.....no? lol

101Spots

09-18-2008, 11:19 AM

:beer:
:rose:

You're missing a joke. Please provide link to missing joke, so your post is complete.
:D

deep*fear

09-18-2008, 11:19 AM

Mrs.Brea

09-18-2008, 11:20 AM

With all due respect, I can't make much of there being no arrests. Per the local 6 report:

"By the time, officers arrived at the Anthony home, the group had left the neighborhood. No one was charged in the incident but deputies are looking at the Local 6 video."

The protestor's had left before the officer's arrived. It appears that the police are reviewing the footage and maybe they will make arrests later. Believe me, I am NOT an Anthony supporter but these "protestors" were not protesting. They were trying to get a reaction and causing a disturbance.

Definitely not a "protest". These people were on attack mode.

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:21 AM

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:22 AM

TES SPOKESPERSON SAYS BIG DEVELOPMENTS SOON-WILL SHOCK US ALL

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7457774&version=1&locale=EN-US

end of interview..

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 11:22 AM

yup! there's already been way too much confronting as it is.

personally, I think anyone who is there to legitimately protest won't mind giving their name on a sign in sheet.....no? lol

lol Boxer. you always make me giggle.

My question is. why aren't the lawyers they hired telling them the same thing that we all hve posted? You think they have and The Anthony's are jus ognoring them?

SavannahStar

09-18-2008, 11:22 AM

Yes someone will get seriously hurt or killed but that is what many people want including LE IMO.

Oh lawd. LE is bad. Press is bad. Anthony's are good. gotcha. You are wrong but i gotcha..

jmo

I don't for even one minute believe LE wants anyone hurt or killed. But I have no doubt whatsoever that some would love to see any one of the Anthonys physically hurt.

GrandmaGA

09-18-2008, 11:23 AM

Yes and if the protesters were throwing things at the house then they should have just picked up the phone and called police and let them handle it. What reason was there for them to go outside and confront the people that were there AGAIN?

If the people that gather there do something wrong or illegal or disturb the peace after certain hours then pick up the phone and call the police without confronting them otherwise learn to IGNORE what they say and yell at them. Why continuously respond to them and confront them? It fuels the fire and caues more drama and chaos. IMO

The Anthonys called 911 to report the incident, but the protesters were gone by the time deputies arrived. Orange County Cmdr. Rick Luckey said George Anthony had exchanged "some words" with the protesters, while Cindy Anthony wrote down tag numbers.

The protesters returned sometime before 1:30 a.m. They walked on to the Anthonys' property and started banging on the garage door, reports show.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

Snoopy50

09-18-2008, 11:23 AM

can you believe that poster feels like the LE wants someone seriously hurt or DEAD?
Sadly, I can, yes.
Good morning!:seeya:

Mrs.Brea

09-18-2008, 11:23 AM

The Anthony's are loving the attention ..

Otherwise they'd park their butts in the back-yard, where it's private ..

Screw the backyard. I'd erect a 10 foot fence around my entire property and do as I please in both yards.

desmom

09-18-2008, 11:24 AM

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/anthonys39_scuffle_with_protesters.html is reporting 2 incidents last night.

1st incident - approx. 1:00 a.m. the family reported people were throwing rocks or pennies at the house, no damage to the house, George got into a verbal altercation with the protesters on the sidewalk. LE broke it up and left the scene.

2nd incident - LE called back to the house about an hour later after the family reported someone banging on the garage door. Cindy came out of the house with a bat as protesters shoved George and tugged on his shirt. Cindy was also pushed in the back as she tried to separate George from the protesters. George used the hose on the protesters as they laughed and continued yelling. The protesters had left by the time LE arrived.

Hello! Call LE and stay inside!

jmo

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:24 AM

Definitely not a "protest". These people were on attack mode.

The Anthony's were the only one with a weapon. JMO

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 11:24 AM

What happened last night? I went to bed before the action started, last cam I saw last night was only 1 protester and it was such a grainy
shot you could barely make out anything.

page 1 of this thread is filled with links to various reports of the latest altercation between the protestors and the anthonys....but...apparently around 1:30 some thugs, posing as protestors, threw rocks or pennies...at the garage door, george and cindy, wielding a baseball bat, came out....much yelling...someone grabbed george's shirt....he sprayed them all down with the hose....police came...one report said the police were watching....it's just more ugliness at the anthonys house...imo

tybek

09-18-2008, 11:24 AM

My theory:
Caylee drowned in the back yard. Casey freaked. AND buried the poor child there first. (Thats why the cadever dogs hit in the backyard.) When realizing that she would be caught b/c that was the 1st place OLE would look she dug this baby up, but her in the trunk and disposed of her. She went back and tried to use the chloroform to CLEAN the trunk to get rid of the dna evidence that would have been left. And yes 1 out of the 3 (if not all) of those family members KNOW what happened and are covering for her b/c they feel like it was really an accident. Thats why the poured the concrete slab. They really dont feel like she meant to do it so are in her corner. But it went from Accident to just plain CRIMINAL INTENT within a matter of days.

I could go on and on. Opinions please

I had considered this possibility. But I just can't believe it at this point, not with the news that Cindy had recently been advised to seek custody and kick Casey out (which also explains to me why Cindy wasn't more concerned about Caylee and Casey being gone, she thought Casey was doing it to punish her, imo) Plus if it was accidental, she would have jumped at the partial immunity or would be begging for a plea deal...her lawyer would have pushed her to do so. Because consequences for accidental death would be must nicer than what she will probably face, and as for her erratic behavior and lack of cooperation...she could always blame it on losing her mind after her daughter accidently died. And she seems to be very under the influence of her lawyer at this point. So my guess is that it wasn't accidental and Baez feels it best if the body is never found because there will be some damning evidence on/in the remains. JMO

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 11:24 AM

TES SPOKESPERSON SAYS BIG DEVELOPMENTS SOON-WILL SHOCK US ALL

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7457774&version=1&locale=EN-US

end of interview..

OMG :eek: I'm going to fall over flat on the floor if it's what I suspected when they called the search off completely and not just suspend some of the search.

Thank you doll for the information and link.

Mrs.Brea

09-18-2008, 11:24 AM

The Anthonys called 911 to report the incident, but the protesters were gone by the time deputies arrived. Orange County Cmdr. Rick Luckey said George Anthony had exchanged "some words" with the protesters, while Cindy Anthony wrote down tag numbers.

The protesters returned sometime before 1:30 a.m. They walked on to the Anthonys' property and started banging on the garage door, reports show.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

1:30 a.m.? Do these people have jobs? Lives? Common sense?

Carolyn2005

09-18-2008, 11:24 AM

The Anthony's are loving the attention ..

Otherwise they'd park their butts in the back-yard, where it's private ..

They may be making a statement. It is their house and they can come and go as they please. But, I agree. I would stay in the backyard if I was home or in the house. The more they show their faces, the more fueled this fire gets.

FrankieBones1

09-18-2008, 11:25 AM

Maybe whatever happened, happened in the backyard :(

Good thinking, Deepfear. And if they were to use the backyard as a sanctuary, choppers would hover above with cameras.

aubrey04

09-18-2008, 11:25 AM

Margo555

09-18-2008, 11:25 AM

Yes someone will get seriously hurt or killed but that is what many people want including LE IMO.

Oh good grief. If you believe that I have some really neat waterfront property to sell you. :rolleyes:
MOO

SavannahStar

09-18-2008, 11:26 AM

Screw the backyard. I'd erect a 10 foot fence around my entire property and do as I please in both yards.

In most subdivisions in FL you cannot do that. Especially ones with HOAs.

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:26 AM

OMG :eek: I'm going to fall over flat on the floor if it's what I suspected when they called the search off completely and not just suspend some of the search.

Thank you doll for the information and link.

She says they will be back soon to search. That they are in contact with the OCSO ..dangit i wanna know NOW...
jmo
and YVW..and thanies for callin me doll..:)

ginky41

09-18-2008, 11:26 AM

OneUp

09-18-2008, 11:27 AM

No, no didn't you hear Cindy say they had 3 people out searching? Maybe one searches 7-3, the next 3-11 and the other one 11-7. :rolleyes:
Didn't we determine that the three searching are George, Cindy, and Lee?...and that they are "searching" for Caylee on Blog sites, and message boards? I know Casey is busy searching Myspace and Facebook for caylee's new page so they can scout out the location where she is being held at .

:rolleyes:
JMO.

SavannahStar

09-18-2008, 11:27 AM

GrandmaGA

09-18-2008, 11:27 AM

I don't for even one minute believe LE wants anyone hurt or killed. But I have no doubt whatsoever that some would love to see any one of the Anthonys physically hurt.This COULD be stopped if the protesters that got out of hand were arrested instead of given a free rein. Banging on the door in the middle of the night is NOT the protesters "right". Between the leaks and letting these people get away with harrassment is inviting problems, possibly a death IMO. They should arrest her for murder and put her on trial if they have all this evidence they say they do and show their hand BEFORE anyone gets hurt.

FeelinFroggy617

09-18-2008, 11:27 AM

Screw the backyard. I'd erect a 10 foot fence around my entire property and do as I please in both yards.

Whose car just pulled in their driveway?

st777jo

09-18-2008, 11:28 AM

can you believe that poster feels like the LE wants someone seriously hurt or DEAD?

Thanks to all that responded to that poster nicely. I didn't because I "absolutely" would have been banned. jmo, jo

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:28 AM

Morning all. :seeya:

What do you suppose this is all about????

Mornin...
i haven't a clue..i hate not knowing :(...

bballgrl

09-18-2008, 11:29 AM

Yes and if the protesters were throwing things at the house then they should have just picked up the phone and called police and let them handle it. What reason was there for them to go outside and confront the people that were there AGAIN?

If the people that gather there do something wrong or illegal or disturb the peace after certain hours then pick up the phone and call the police without confronting them otherwise learn to IGNORE what they say and yell at them. Why continuously respond to them and confront them? It fuels the fire and caues more drama and chaos. IMO

I know that is what I would do. No matter how angry I was... you just can't predict what a stranger will do. So, if I have strangers on my property causing a nuisance (I don't care what they are saying about ME) I call 911 and let LE handle it!

101Spots

09-18-2008, 11:30 AM

lol Boxer. you always make me giggle.

My question is. why aren't the lawyers they hired telling them the same thing that we all hve posted? You think they have and The Anthony's are jus ognoring them?

The lawyer hasn't been seen or heard since his big TV interview. He got his 15 minutes and skedaddled.

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:30 AM

OneUp

09-18-2008, 11:30 AM

lol Boxer. you always make me giggle.

My question is. why aren't the lawyers they hired telling them the same thing that we all hve posted? You think they have and The Anthony's are jus ognoring them?Yes, I do think they are getting good advice from Nejame...and I am sure they are discarding it in favor of their own band of "logic".
I wonder how long until he tells them to follow his advice or he won't represent them anymore?
JMO.

desmom

09-18-2008, 11:30 AM

concernedmom

09-18-2008, 11:31 AM

OMG :eek: I'm going to fall over flat on the floor if it's what I suspected when they called the search off completely and not just suspend some of the search.

Thank you doll for the information and link.

Rebel could you just give me a quickie about what it says? Im at work and I cant listen to it.
TIA

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:31 AM

Boy he really has the dates wrong. I don't put much thought in what he has to say. He is almost ready to be put on The Liars List with the other 3-

I was skipping past him and listenin about TES. What would shock us? :shrug:

frances1

09-18-2008, 11:31 AM

I had considered this possibility. But I just can't believe it at this point, not with the news that Cindy had recently been advised to seek custody and kick Casey out (which also explains to me why Cindy wasn't more concerned about Caylee and Casey being gone, she thought Casey was doing it to punish her, imo) Plus if it was accidental, she would have jumped at the partial immunity or would be begging for a plea deal...her lawyer would have pushed her to do so. Because consequences for accidental death would be must nicer than what she will probably face, and as for her erratic behavior and lack of cooperation...she could always blame it on losing her mind after her daughter accidently died. And she seems to be very under the influence of her lawyer at this point. So my guess is that it wasn't accidental and Baez feels it best if the body is never found because there will be some damning evidence on/in the remains. JMO

I thought the "concrete slab" was erroneous information that was cleared up long ago. I believe it was only pavers that were used.

brodysho

09-18-2008, 11:32 AM

In regards to the video, I'm sick of seeing LP's big ole media seeking mug on the TV. What a joke. I wish he'd go away already.

I'm interested to hear more about what TES has to say.

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:32 AM

1:30 a.m.? Do these people have jobs? Lives? Common sense?

No, no, and no.

101Spots

09-18-2008, 11:32 AM

1:30 a.m.? Do these people have jobs? Lives? Common sense?

Uhhhhh, no, no, and obviously not.

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 11:32 AM

RR, can you synopsize what's in that video? I am unable to watch at this time. TIA.

Basically the beginning of the video is a showing of Padilla on Nancy Garce lastnight. Then the reporter in front of the Police station talks about her conversation with the spoksperson for TES and the spokesperson for TES told her that there were Big developements in the case that will surprise us all. She would not elaborate to reporter what the developements were and said TES would be retruning to Florida soon. They are in constant contact with OCSO

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:32 AM

Shock us all? :chicken:

Well if she is alive i would really be shocked. But i have a feeling it will be MUCH worse than that.
jmo...

tybek

09-18-2008, 11:32 AM

I don't for even one minute believe LE wants anyone hurt or killed. But I have no doubt whatsoever that some would love to see any one of the Anthonys physically hurt.

I don't think LE wants to see anyone hurt either. But I do think they are willing to let the Anthony's suffer the unpleasant consequences of their daughter having been bailed out.

Snoopy50

09-18-2008, 11:32 AM

The lawyer hasn't been seen or heard since his big TV interview. He got his 15 minutes and skedaddled.
Maybe their check bounced.:confused:

Mrs.Brea

09-18-2008, 11:33 AM

The Anthony's were the only one with a weapon. JMO

I'd have a weapon too. The protesters have proven to be dangerous. Throwing things, starting fights etc...The Anthony's have a right to defend themselves. Cindy was protecting her husband who was being man handled by a protester. It wasn't like the protesters were out there throwing up signs and chanting. They were becoming a threat. They got what they asked for. They wanted this type of reaction.

Bottom line is they didn't use it but it was necessary to stop what could have escalated into a very dangerous situation.

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:33 AM

In most subdivisions in FL you cannot do that. Especially ones with HOAs.

I bet the HOA would make an exception in this case imo.

Ashes256

09-18-2008, 11:33 AM

Anyone know whose car that is?

Fallen Angel

09-18-2008, 11:33 AM

spiritwolf46

09-18-2008, 11:34 AM

Crossin ts and dottin i's...they dont want manslaughter..they want murder one..jmo

Morning all! :seeya:

I totally agree. Let them deal with the charges that they already have and then go for the big gun!

I am with the rest of you though, wish it would happen real soon.

Any word on them speaking with LP yet? Wonder what all was said in that interview?

deep*fear

09-18-2008, 11:34 AM

tybek

09-18-2008, 11:34 AM

I thought the "concrete slab" was erroneous information that was cleared up long ago. I believe it was only pavers that were used.

Hi, I'm sorry I think I missed something in your reply to my post because I didn't say anything about concrete slabs or pavers. Could you please explain? TIA

Snoopy50

09-18-2008, 11:35 AM

I thought the "concrete slab" was erroneous information that was cleared up long ago. I believe it was only pavers that were used.
I must have missed some news regarding Cindy being advised to seek custody, can someone please elaborate?
:shrug:

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 11:35 AM

Those posters at work who can't view video I just posted synopsis to Savanahstar. :seeya:

johnielee333

09-18-2008, 11:36 AM

And Cindy and George should have stayed in the house. They were just fueling the fire.

the anthonys have a right to be in their own front yard whenever they feel like it day or night without being attacked by protesters. a person can only take so much. these protesters are only there to cause problems. we know that. you can tell by their actions & words. yes, they have a right to be there too but they should be there protesting peacefully. the protesters are wrong.

Margo555

09-18-2008, 11:36 AM

Regina.Lampert

09-18-2008, 11:36 AM

I'm going with George and Cindy knew something was up on the 7th, the 8th, the 9th, the 15th or the 16th

Yep. I love how the anthonys seem to be pointing the finger of guilt at casey's friends: Amy, Anthony etc...thank God LE is smart enough to have these people take polygraphs. Wonder why everybody in the anthony family is refusing to take one?

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 11:36 AM

I hate to be a pest but i am on a computer with no sound today can someone please please tell me what this video says that will shock ua thanks soooooo very much.

just that when it is revealed, we will be surprised...the surprise will be if it is ever revealed....

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:36 AM

She says they will be back soon to search. That they are in contact with the OCSO ..dangit i wanna know NOW...
jmo
and YVW..and thanies for callin me doll..:)

day2day, didn't she say she would be back one way or another? I didn't hear the word "search" imo. Maybe Caylee really was already found as some have suggested, and she meant she would be back to testify if called?

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:36 AM

:eek:
they need to just spill!

Maybe they found Caylee before they left and are waiting on the forensics to get back. That is bf's theory..

Fallen Angel

09-18-2008, 11:37 AM

okTES saying something Big about to happen and it will shock us.......at this point the ONLY thing that will shock me is if Caylee's alive

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 11:38 AM

Maybe they found Caylee before they left and are waiting on the forensics to get back. That is bf's theory..

I agree with your bf....those bones with the clothes....:shrug:

desmom

09-18-2008, 11:38 AM

Anyone know whose car that is?

It is not Lee's. Maybe Jose's. jmo

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:38 AM

I must have missed some news regarding Cindy being advised to seek custody, can someone please elaborate?
:shrug:

Cindy was seeing a counselor about problems with Casey, and it was suggested she be asked to leave and that she get custody of Caylee.

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:38 AM

day2day, didn't she say she would be back one way or another? I didn't hear the word "search" imo. Maybe Caylee really was already found as some have suggested, and she meant she would be back to testify if called?

You are right she didn't say she would be back to search. Sadly, my bf (who works in LE) believes that Tim would have NEVER left without finding her. That she has been found and they will be back when they re-arrest the princess..

jmo

frances1

09-18-2008, 11:39 AM

Hi, I'm sorry I think I missed something in your reply to my post because I didn't say anything about concrete slabs or pavers. Could you please explain? TIA

Sorry, Tybek, I meant to respond to Jusmyopinion.

Mrs.Brea

09-18-2008, 11:39 AM

I bet the HOA would make an exception in this case imo.

I sure hope they would. If I was on the HOA board I would consider the circumstances. The protesters are resorting to property damage and I'd have to think about the neighbors of the Anthony's and their well being and privacy. To me helicopters are a little better than crazy protesters.

Fallen Angel

09-18-2008, 11:39 AM

It is not Lee's. Maybe Jose's. jmo
awwww he must miss casey. if she doesn't go to his office he has to go hold her hand at home. awwwwwwwww so sweet barf

WillowInFlight

09-18-2008, 11:39 AM

the anthonys have a right to be in their own front yard whenever they feel like it day or night without being attacked by protesters. a person can only take so much. these protesters are only there to cause problems. we know that. you can tell by their actions & words. yes, they have a right to be there too but they should be there protesting peacefully. the protesters are wrong.

And misplacing a 3 year old child is wrong.

desmom

09-18-2008, 11:39 AM

Uncut video of last night's altercation

http://www.wesh.com/video/17503225/index.html

spiritwolf46

09-18-2008, 11:39 AM

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

Profile of the Sociopath = Casey
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love

Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

What is sad about this is that it sounds like the WHOLE fam damily!

concernedmom

09-18-2008, 11:40 AM

okTES saying something Big about to happen and it will shock us.......at this point the ONLY thing that will shock me is if Caylee's alive

That would really shock me because of decomp.
If they found her when they called off the search it wouldnt surprise me its been kept secret. They would need to identify her and do an autopsy.

WillowInFlight

09-18-2008, 11:41 AM

awwww he must miss casey. if she doesn't go to his office he has to go hold her hand at home. awwwwwwwww so sweet barf

Looks like the same black car that was there the other day.

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 11:41 AM

Cindy was seeing a counselor about problems with Casey, and it was suggested she be asked to leave and that she get custody of Caylee.

I believe the counselor told her,,,, or SHOULD have told her to get custody first...THEN she could kick casey out.....but cindy, being cindy, only heard what she wanted to hear....

Snoopy50

09-18-2008, 11:41 AM

Cindy was seeing a counselor about problems with Casey, and it was suggested she be asked to leave and that she get custody of Caylee.

Thank you!!!!:seeya:

impartial

09-18-2008, 11:41 AM

TES SPOKESPERSON SAYS BIG DEVELOPMENTS SOON-WILL SHOCK US ALL

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7457774&version=1&locale=EN-US

end of interview..

The reporter said TES spokeperson indicated the developments would "surprise" us all.

What would surprise us? Finding Caylee's body? At this point, most expect that Caylee is not alive, so that wouldn't be "surprising".

IMO

Velouria

09-18-2008, 11:41 AM

OMG :eek: I'm going to fall over flat on the floor if it's what I suspected when they called the search off completely and not just suspend some of the search.

Thank you doll for the information and link.

Oh Rebel - THANK YOU! Soon as I watched that video I started scanning the thread to see if one of you girls had checked in on this!!

I know you still can't share, but I hope it's a solid lead.

:rose: Caylee

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:42 AM

If they found her remains why would they keep it secret? I don't remember that being done in any crime I have followed.

IF they found human bones, I believe they might keep it under their hats until verification was made. IF they found bones, maybe it was TD or Caylee. I think they would want to make sure before even announcing that they found anything?

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 11:42 AM

okTES saying something Big about to happen and it will shock us.......at this point the ONLY thing that will shock me is if Caylee's alive

At that point I would be the one dialing 911 for me and the rest of us on this board who will be having complete heart attacks when that news broke.

Not going to happen but would need 911 assistance if it did.

Joan Weiss

09-18-2008, 11:42 AM

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7458574&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

George Anthony hoses protestors with water

Last Edited: Thursday, 18 Sep 2008, 6:07 AM EDT
Created: Thursday, 18 Sep 2008, 6:07 AM EDT

Casey Anthony's parents become involved in a verbal confrontation with protestors early Thursday morning. SideBar

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- A verbal altercation between George and Cindy Anthony and protestors escalated very early Thursday morning.

A small group of protestors gathered outside the Hopespring Drive home around 1:30 a.m. George and Cindy Anthony came out, and became involved in a heated conversation with the group.

With a baseball bat in hand, Cindy and George walked down their driveway toward the protestors and exchanged words.

At one point, a female protestor grabbed at George’s shirt while Cindy attempted to prevent the two from fighting.

Visibly upset, George went and retrieved his garden hose and sprayed the protestors with a steady stream of water.

Deputies witnessed the event, but did not make any arrests or approach the group until the protestors left the area. Cindy and George were seen making a statement soon after.

It is not clear whether any charges were filed after the incident.

More on other websites now. Seems as though the protestors were throwing rocks at the home and banging on the garage door. I just cannot understand why the Anthony's did not call the police from inside the house. This is a volatile situation that will just continue to escalate until someone gets seriously hurt. While I agree with the protestor's right to protest (although not something I would do), there is a huge difference between protesting and being a nuisance. I know the Anthony's have caused this circus but, IMO, two wrongs don't make a right.Morning. Thanks for the link. I'm trying to figure out why anyone would throw rocks and bang on the garage door while the deputies were there. The article says the deputies observed the whole thing.

That doesn't even make sense. imo

aubrey04

09-18-2008, 11:43 AM

I think that's Casey's boyfriends...errrrrrr... I mean lawyers car, Baez, in the driveway. Probably telling them how everything is everyone elses fault besides Casey. I am sure he is filling them with more hot air.

:rolleyes:

OneUp

09-18-2008, 11:43 AM

Funny thing - never saw the bat being raised as in assault. Did see George being grabbed as in battery.
Funny thing - never saw George or Cindy put their hands on anyone, in this instance.

Battery big time and videotaped.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
How do you find anything about that "funny"?
No one has any business throwing things or touching another person. No one has any business approaching another person with a baseball bat, obviously intended as a potential weapon ( unless you would like me to believe George & Cindy intended to challenge tham to a lovely game of two on two ball?).
In my world, that is all juvenile, agressive, and unacceptable bullying behavior.
But maybe I'm rareified in seeing things that way. I suppose some see bullying people as perfectly acceptable...like those who show up to throw things at the A.'s house, and a woman who tracks down witnesses to try and bully them into changing their stories to the police.
:no: NOT acceptable IMO.

Regina.Lampert

09-18-2008, 11:43 AM

ty ty i'm going watch it now

Big developements that will surprise us all. Now I wonder what those could be?

Fallen Angel

09-18-2008, 11:43 AM

That would really shock me because of decomp.
If they found her when they called off the search it wouldnt surprise me its been kept secret. They would need to identify her and do an autopsy.

Ok.........that would SHOCK me......you might be right :eek:

bballgrl

09-18-2008, 11:44 AM

Wow. It never fails. Every single day there is DRAMA in this case. The poor, poor neighbors.. I can not imagine having to deal with this. At this point, I think I would be looking at apartments to stay at until this blows over - if I could afford it.

The pressure on the Anthony's must be unreal. They are cooped up in their less than 2,000 sq foot home w/their lying, stealing, murdering daughter... and outside there is no relief because there is a lynch mob just waiting for them.. And the Anthony's fall for the ploy everytime. It's a recipe for disaster.

This is exactly what those "protesters" wanted. The Anthony's sure are easily tricked.

I'd go stay with family elsewhere till things blew over. There are ways to get yourself away from a bad situation. You just have to be willing to explore them.

Now, (before everyone blasts me) I am not saying that the homeowners should be forced from their homes. However.... if my family were in the middle of this circus, I'd get away and get mad later! My family's safety comes first BEFORE my own loss of freedom..

concernedmom

09-18-2008, 11:45 AM

Baez usually shows at the house when something is about to happen. I wonder if Casey is going to be arrested for murder today?

trich

09-18-2008, 11:45 AM

ty ty i'm going watch it now

I just watched it...I sure hope that the person form TES knows what she is talking about and Casey will be arrested again for the last time.

SavannahStar

09-18-2008, 11:45 AM

I don't for even one minute believe LE wants anyone hurt or killed. But I have no doubt whatsoever that some would love to see any one of the Anthonys physically hurt.

Then I feel sorry for you Savannah. I would not want to live in the world YOU perceive that WE are all in.

Excuse me? Where did I say ALL of "you" live or think a certain way? :confused:

Maybe you missed the "some" in my post?

Do you doubt SOME PEOPLE wish harm on Casey, Cindy or George? Then I feel sorry for you for having your head in the clouds.

deep*fear

09-18-2008, 11:45 AM

If they found her remains why would they keep it secret? I don't remember that being done in any crime I have followed.

:shrug: Maybe they want to be sure it's not Trenton or one of the missing DCF children.

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:46 AM

The reporter said TES spokeperson indicated the developments would "surprise" us all.

What would surprise us? Finding Caylee's body? At this point, most expect that Caylee is not alive, so that wouldn't be "surprising".

IMO

Yes that would surprise us. Where she was found? How she was murdered?

jmo

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:46 AM

I sure hope they would. If I was on the HOA board I would consider the circumstances. The protesters are resorting to property damage and I'd have to think about the neighbors of the Anthony's and their well being and privacy. To me helicopters are a little better than crazy protesters.

I said last week I wish they would put an 8 foot privacy fence around the entire yard with a gate over the driveway. Seems like it could be a solution for right now imo.

Margo555

09-18-2008, 11:46 AM

You are right she didn't say she would be back to search. Sadly, my bf (who works in LE) believes that Tim would have NEVER left without finding her. That she has been found and they will be back when they re-arrest the princess..

jmo

I have thought that all along also. Tim was all fired up, tons of searchers were helping, and wham, he packed up all and left in a cloud of dust. I don't think he would have done that otherwise. There were other places to search that weren't compromised with water. JMHO

MyrDawn

09-18-2008, 11:47 AM

I pray to God you're right. I don't want this to become like the drew peterson ordeal. She's already walking around all smug like he was. That case just entirely disappeared.

Maybe kakax can help me with this, but didn't it take 2 years to convict Melanie Mcguire of murder?

That is the only thing that gives me hope when things like this take so long.

Yep. She murdered William in April of 2005, wasn't arrested until June of 2006, and the trial started in March of 2007.

I do have faith Casey will be charged, tried and found guilty in the death of Caylee.

What exact charge depends on if her body is found, and what evidence can be garnered from it, IMO. But, I expect at the very least it will be voluntary manslaughter.

SavannahStar

09-18-2008, 11:47 AM

Basically the beginning of the video is a showing of Padilla on Nancy Garce lastnight. Then the reporter in front of the Police station talks about her conversation with the spoksperson for TES and the spokesperson for TES told her that there were Big developements in the case that will surprise us all. She would not elaborate to reporter what the developements were and said TES would be retruning to Florida soon. They are in constant contact with OCSO

Thanks Rebel! I saw Padilla on NG last night...but the info from TES is interesting. We sure could use a break in this case.

Velouria

09-18-2008, 11:47 AM

Maybe they found Caylee before they left and are waiting on the forensics to get back. That is bf's theory..

I think I agree with your boyfriend.

If this is in fact the case, I doubt it will convince Cindy. She'll chalk it up to "intimidation tactics" by LE...

Right now I couldn't care less about the protesters and the whole Anthony circus. Just overwhelmingly sad for that poor little girl, abandoned by the person she trusted most. :(

EGirl

09-18-2008, 11:48 AM

I said last week I wish they would put an 8 foot privacy fence around the entire yard with a gate over the driveway. Seems like it could be a solution for right now imo.

HOA wont let them

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:48 AM

I have thought that all along also. Tim was all fired up, tons of searchers were helping, and wham, he packed up all and left in a cloud of dust. I don't think he would have done that otherwise. There were other places to search that weren't compromised with water. JMHO

I was buyin Tim's story about the water. My bf wasn't. That is why he works LE and i work sales/marketing ..LOL!

tybek

09-18-2008, 11:48 AM

I must have missed some news regarding Cindy being advised to seek custody, can someone please elaborate?
:shrug:

This link has a transcript from NG show where it is discussed. (sorry to use Grace, it was the fastest source I could find, but it was widely reported by several media sources at the time including some of the maj. news networks) See the part where Drew Petrimoulx, the Orlando WDBO reporter speaks. Here is a excerpt:
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/open-thread-for-then-nancy-grace-show-988/

GRACE: I`m going to go back to the theory, what we`ve learned recently, that just before little Caylee goes missing, Cindy Anthony, according to reports of a local affiliate, was on the verge of kicking Casey out, mom, Casey, out, and making her actually get a job like the rest of us. In fact, tensions had mounted so high, according to a local reporter, that grandmother, Cindy, had actually gone to a therapist about mom, Casey, stealing money out of her grandmother`s assisted living fund.

Out to Drew Petrimoulx, reporter with WDBO. What can you tell me about that?

DREW PETRIMOULX, WDBO: Yes, well, there are those tensions that were building over some money that she had taken out of an account that was actually intended for her grandparents` assisted living. And it`s not just that. There was also MySpace records, where Cindy Anthony was talking about some of the ways that her daughter, that she had provided for, that she had provided Caylee and then talking about how her daughter had actually stabbed her in the back and keeping the daughter away from her. So through what we`ve learned, it`s obviously — obvious that there was some tension there around the time that Caylee went missing.

GRACE: So she had actually sought out a therapist to deal with mom, Casey Anthony, stealing?

PETRIMOULX: That`s right. And the therapist actually said that she should try to get custody of Caylee and kick her out of the house. Of course, before any of that was able to go through — you know, we`re not sure if she was going to go through with that, but before any of that could happen, Casey, you know, left.

eta the link

Fallen Angel

09-18-2008, 11:48 AM

Big developements that will surprise us all. Now I wonder what those could be?
yeah now this has me thinking.........i hope NG has Tim on tonight

anyonesguess

09-18-2008, 11:49 AM

HOA wont let them

Did they already ask? I would think HOA would make an exception for this home for now.

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 11:49 AM

Oh Rebel - THANK YOU! Soon as I watched that video I started scanning the thread to see if one of you girls had checked in on this!!

I know you still can't share, but I hope it's a solid lead.

:rose: Caylee

Hi ya sweetheart. I'm waiting on pins and needles. to find out what this news is. I have a couple of ideas but I'll wait and see. Me thinking they are either going to annouce they found partial remains of Caylee OR They are about to arrest someone for helping cover up and that person's going to crack and spill where Caylee is.

ellegna

09-18-2008, 11:49 AM

Maybe they found Caylee before they left and are waiting on the forensics to get back. That is bf's theory..

Didn't TES find a pink blanket with bones?
It was quickly discounted as animal and IIRC TES made their announcement they were suspending their search just after that.
Could it be the bones were not animal but just a ruse to give LE peace and quiet while they performed tests?

Boxer

09-18-2008, 11:49 AM

At that point I would be the one dialing 911 for me and the rest of us on this board who will be having complete heart attacks when that news broke.

Not going to happen but would need 911 assistance if it did.

reaching here....remember George's comment about EquuSearch the last day or two?

brodysho

09-18-2008, 11:49 AM

MyrDawn

09-18-2008, 11:50 AM

Wonder if Caylee had life insurance policy taken out (by Cindy and George of course)?

I have another theory I've mentioned before. Kids Caylee's age are usually talking a LOT. They'll blurt out almost anything even if told it's a "secret".

Could it be that Caylee was starting to let things slip about what she and Casey did during the day when Casey was supposedly "working"?

Could Casey have killed her so C&G wouldn't find out, and her perfect little life of partying wouldn't be brought to a halt?

JMO

deep*fear

09-18-2008, 11:51 AM

I've seen it said that Baez can better defend Casey if he doesn't know what happened. If he doesn't know what happened, he probably doesn't know what the members of the Anthony family do or don't know, so he wouldn't want Casey to tell them more than they know already.

rosejustrose

09-18-2008, 11:51 AM

Yes that would surprise us. Where she was found? How she was murdered?

jmo

Mroning day2day!:seeya: Dang it, I'm at work and missed most of this morning's posts. What's going on, in a nutshell? TES found something? Could be Trenton or Caylee, IMO. TIA for any updates.

Rose

Fallen Angel

09-18-2008, 11:52 AM

that guy came out of the house......doesn't look like Jose

BJames

09-18-2008, 11:52 AM

I can completely understand that George and Cindy want to be outside
but, why not the back-yard? :shrug:

Pool, lawn chairs, no cameras, no protestors ..
I don't get it .. :confused:

They must love the attention ..
Personally, I'd be in the back-yard for privacy .. :shrug:

Honestly?
I think it is their version of 'taking a bulllet' for Casey...they couldn't/didn't protect her before...and she blames then...and they accept that.
They want the attention directed on them, on PR...anywhere except on Casey...God forbid if indeed a body is found, the 'game' is over..If they push Casey too hard they might find out something they do not want to know...for right now..it's 'working' for them.

Just my opinion of course..

Rayosunshine

09-18-2008, 11:52 AM

How do you find anything about that "funny"?
No one has any business throwing things or touching another person. No one has any business approaching another person with a baseball bat, obviously intended as a potential weapon ( unless you would like me to believe George & Cindy intended to challenge tham to a lovely game of two on two ball?).
In my world, that is all juvenile, agressive, and unacceptable bullying behavior.
But maybe I'm rareified in seeing things that way. I suppose some see bullying people as perfectly acceptable...like those who show up to throw things at the A.'s house, and a woman who tracks down witnesses to try and bully them into changing their stories to the police.
:no: NOT acceptable IMO.

I think I may have failed to word my post in a way that would be understood. I didin't mean any of this is funny. Was trying to point out that the Anthony's were not the aggressors.

I do not see the bullying people/protestors as acceptable.
The Anthony's or anyone else can carry anything legal while walking on their property.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

aubrey04

09-18-2008, 11:52 AM

Lenny Padilla says he has a copy of Casey's phone records. I'd bet one of those pennies the protesters threw @ the Anthony home.. that Nancy's producers asked him for a copy. Heck, I bet Nancy asked him herself.

I wonder if he really has a copy and if so, would he be willing to give a copy to Nancy? I'd like to know who Casey called on the days around the 15th-17th.

JMO

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:53 AM

lol. I sure hope they did find her, I so do. Then everyone can move on and hopefully Casey gets murder 1. moo

I do too CB. It is time that she has a proper burial. :(..And that Casey pays ...jmo

Joan Weiss

09-18-2008, 11:53 AM

They CHOSE for Casey to be inside chatting on her computer. No Casey? .... No protestors.ITA. Cindy believed something like this would happen before Casey was released from jail the first time. Everything was cool when the BHs were there. Casey should go to a safe house, as Cindy suggested in the first place. imo

Regina.Lampert

09-18-2008, 11:53 AM

reaching here....remember George's comment about EquuSearch the last day or two?

I know he included TES in his rant to that reporter, but I cannot recall specifically what he said, do you?

Interesting tho, maybe they were informed of this "suprise" and went on the offensive to discredit TES.

hamebone

09-18-2008, 11:53 AM

Uncut video of last night's altercation

http://www.wesh.com/video/17503225/index.html

I said it before; saying it again...someones gonna get hurt badly...These thugs are not protesters, they are harassing that whole neighborhood...and WHY the A's dont just call LE from inside the home is beyond me..

deep*fear

09-18-2008, 11:53 AM

Even given permission for a tall fence in the front, the Anthony's wouldn't do it b/c the wouldn't be allowed to fence in the easement and sidewalk

trich

09-18-2008, 11:54 AM

Snoopy50

09-18-2008, 11:54 AM

This link has a transcript from NG show where it is discussed. (sorry to use Grace, it was the fastest source I could find, but it was widely reported by several media sources at the time including some of the maj. news networks) See the part where Drew Petrimoulx, the Orlando WDBO reporter speaks. Here is a excerpt:
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/open-thread-for-then-nancy-grace-show-988/

GRACE: I`m going to go back to the theory, what we`ve learned recently, that just before little Caylee goes missing, Cindy Anthony, according to reports of a local affiliate, was on the verge of kicking Casey out, mom, Casey, out, and making her actually get a job like the rest of us. In fact, tensions had mounted so high, according to a local reporter, that grandmother, Cindy, had actually gone to a therapist about mom, Casey, stealing money out of her grandmother`s assisted living fund.

Out to Drew Petrimoulx, reporter with WDBO. What can you tell me about that?

DREW PETRIMOULX, WDBO: Yes, well, there are those tensions that were building over some money that she had taken out of an account that was actually intended for her grandparents` assisted living. And it`s not just that. There was also MySpace records, where Cindy Anthony was talking about some of the ways that her daughter, that she had provided for, that she had provided Caylee and then talking about how her daughter had actually stabbed her in the back and keeping the daughter away from her. So through what we`ve learned, it`s obviously — obvious that there was some tension there around the time that Caylee went missing.

GRACE: So she had actually sought out a therapist to deal with mom, Casey Anthony, stealing?

PETRIMOULX: That`s right. And the therapist actually said that she should try to get custody of Caylee and kick her out of the house. Of course, before any of that was able to go through — you know, we`re not sure if she was going to go through with that, but before any of that could happen, Casey, you know, left.

eta the link

Thank you very much. This does bring up a question I had......obviously Cindy KNEW Casey had no job, so when did she discover this, and if Casey had not worked since 2006, where was her money coming from? It was recently that she began stealing money, but before that, where was her income derived from?:shrug:

MyrDawn

09-18-2008, 11:54 AM

:shrug: Maybe they want to be sure it's not Trenton or one of the missing DCF children.

I think as soon as it was confirm who it was, it would be announced, though.

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 11:55 AM

Uncut video of last night's altercation

http://www.wesh.com/video/17503225/index.html

That video is just disturbing to me.....george said, the lady pulled on his shirt....maybe it's just me, but ladies don't act like that....the woman, not lady......my own little personal pet peeve....I get tired of hearing the word gentleman used to describe rapists, murderers, thieves....

Think whatever you want to of the anthony's, but the neighbors don't deserve that....
and neither do the anthonys...they haven't been charged with anything,,,those thugs looked drunk, especially the guy in the white tshirt...if le doesn't do anything about this...they are encouraging it...imo...btw...i am NO anthony fan, not by a long shot.....

Ckrdpast

09-18-2008, 11:55 AM

You are right she didn't say she would be back to search. Sadly, my bf (who works in LE) believes that Tim would have NEVER left without finding her. That she has been found and they will be back when they re-arrest the princess..

jmo

Rebel --sorry im reading way behind but read this post----and then think about what TIM told us about *another case"

Joan Weiss

09-18-2008, 11:56 AM

I think I may have failed to word my post in a way that would be understood. I didin't mean any of this is funny. Was trying to point out that the Anthony's were not the aggressors.

I do not see the bullying people/protestors as acceptable.
The Anthony's or anyone else can carry anything legal while walking on their property.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomGood morning, Ray. Sure, they all have rights.
Casey has a right to be out on bond.
The Anthonys have a right to go anywhere on their property.
The neighbors have a right to a peaceful environment.
The protesters have a right to assemble.

Whose rights should be taken away? imo

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 11:56 AM

reaching here....remember George's comment about EquuSearch the last day or two?
Yep. Wonder if he was informed of some information about TES. OR just upset that TES was searching for a deceased Caylee. It's hard to tell with him. If ya know what i mean?

GentleBreeze

09-18-2008, 11:56 AM

Morning, everyone!

Thanks for the link KimD! I was wondering what happened last night.

I wonder what possessed that "protester" to grab at Georges shirt.

Sheesh, they shouldn't have done that.

It shows they were the ones that made physical contact.

Knowing George he will probably want this protester arrested. It is against the law to even touch someone against their will.

This thing is just spiraling out of control and someone is really going to get hurt by all of this.

imoo

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:57 AM

Mroning day2day!:seeya: Dang it, I'm at work and missed most of this morning's posts. What's going on, in a nutshell? TES found something? Could be Trenton or Caylee, IMO. TIA for any updates.

Rose

TES spokesperson says that NEW developments coming soon that will surprise us all. She also says she will be back...

crymeariver2006

09-18-2008, 11:57 AM

I had a dream last night that she was alive. I don't know where she was found, but only that she was found alive. I don't normally have dreams like that - but like I've said before, this case is getting to me.

Also - she appeared older in my dream, and it was all over the news. I was probably thinking of the Smart family - who knows.

Peace,

I've had that same dream.

concernedmom

09-18-2008, 11:57 AM

Baez just left with "his girl".

OneUp

09-18-2008, 11:57 AM

Yep. She murdered William in April of 2005, wasn't arrested until June of 2006, and the trial started in March of 2007.

I do have faith Casey will be charged, tried and found guilty in the death of Caylee.

What exact charge depends on if her body is found, and what evidence can be garnered from it, IMO. But, I expect at the very least it will be voluntary manslaughter.My thoughts regardiing what might "shock" us IF ( big if) TES found Caylees remains, is that some method of disposal or evidence of COD would be especailly depraved. The last time we heard that something would "shock" was from L. Padilla just before the Chloroform information came out. He was right, if that was what he meant to refer to. We were all very disturbed
by the depravity that it suggests for Casey to use and search for info. on Chloroform.
Maybe there is evidence of premaditated murder? Or perhaps they found "partial" remains indicatiing dismembering..I'm not going firther...this line of thinking is disturbing me too much.
Just a supposition though.
JMO.

SavannahStar

09-18-2008, 11:58 AM

If they had found Caylee alive ...they could not and would not keep that a secret.
The only secret I would think would be that they found her remains but are making sure it is her and that they have all they need to indict Casey for her death.

Why would that "shock" us though? I don't understand that part.

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 11:58 AM

Thank you very much. This does bring up a question I had......obviously Cindy KNEW Casey had no job, so when did she discover this, and if Casey had not worked since 2006, where was her money coming from? It was recently that she began stealing money, but before that, where was her income derived from?:shrug:

Maybe undiscovered thievery?....after seeing that shocking picture yesterday, I am really leaning towards the sexforhire aspect....the adult parties have also been described as sex parties....dang! is it just me?

GrandmaGA

09-18-2008, 11:58 AM

I said it before; saying it again...someones gonna get hurt badly...These thugs are not protesters, they are harassing that whole neighborhood...and WHY the A's dont just call LE from inside the home is beyond me..

They did, the thugs left and came back later.

handful of protesters stood outside the Anthony's Hopespring Drive home shortly after midnight and taunted the residents by tossing pennies at the front doors and windows, deputies said.

The Anthonys called 911 to report the incident, but the protesters were gone by the time deputies arrived. Orange County Cmdr. Rick Luckey said George Anthony had exchanged "some words" with the protesters, while Cindy Anthony wrote down tag numbers.

The protesters returned sometime before 1:30 a.m. They walked on to the Anthonys' property and started banging on the garage door, reports show.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

~jomomma~

09-18-2008, 11:58 AM

I think as soon as it was confirm who it was, it would be announced, though.

i'm missing what you guys are talking about.

sorry, i'm just trying to skim thru and i'm workin' my behind off :mad:

Ellie

09-18-2008, 11:59 AM

So what's the news that will 'shock me'?! Isn't that the 2nd or 3rd time that's been said? I hate that they're doing that whole 'cliffhanger' thing. This isn't 'reality tv'...this is REALITY. :no:

I agree, as much as I do feel that Casey is completely guilty, the protesters need to go home. They're not doing a bit of good in any way at all other than being an annoyance. They've made their statement, if that was their intention. I have yet to see anything good come out of their sit-down strike.

101Spots

09-18-2008, 11:59 AM

ITA. Cindy believed something like this would happen before Casey was released from jail the first time. Everything was cool when the BHs were there. Casey should go to a safe house, as Cindy suggested in the first place. imo

But wasn't there something about only serving house arrest at her legal address? I though LP started on the safe house road until that was pointed out to him.

But I could be wrong.

day2day

09-18-2008, 11:59 AM

concernedmom

09-18-2008, 11:59 AM

Rebel --sorry im reading way behind but read this post----and then think about what TIM told us about *another case"

Shame on you. You're not allowed to keep secrets.:no:

need2no

09-18-2008, 11:59 AM

:eek:
they need to just spill!

Big developments that will SHOCK us.........

Let's do process of elimination:

If they had a new or great lead wouldn't they RUSH back to search, or assist with a search? But this wouldn't be shocking.

If Caylee has been located alive why would they need to be coming back or involved at all? Nah, this isn't the case as wonderful as it would be to hear.

If something (partial remains) were discovered prior to them leaving FL, would they be returning to complete the search when the water level dropped? Is this something they would risk delaying out of necessity?
Would this explain why they are staying in touch with LE and why they plan to return? But again this wouldn't really SHOCK us.

If they had discovered her body and were just waiting on autopsy results to confirm maybe they now know it's Caylee and the shock is this search was called off because she was located, and/or the cause of death. Are they returning to participate in a Press Conference with LE?

Is the trip to CA the final thing LE needs to wrap up before pressing charges?

What other possibilities are there?

Why would they make this teaser announcement?

Velouria

09-18-2008, 12:00 PM

Hi ya sweetheart. I'm waiting on pins and needles. to find out what this news is. I have a couple of ideas but I'll wait and see. Me thinking they are either going to annouce they found partial remains of Caylee OR They are about to arrest someone for helping cover up and that person's going to crack and spill where Caylee is.

Rebel, I truly hope we're both wrong about Casey's possible accomplice...I cannot imagine living with that on my conscience. As for Casey, however... can't be bothered by what you don't have.

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 12:00 PM

If they had found Caylee alive ...they could not and would not keep that a secret.
The only secret I would think would be that they found her remains but are making sure it is her and that they have all they need to indict Casey for her death.

I have a sneaking feeling they might make 2 arrests soon. I could just be unrealisticly therorizing here.

MyrDawn

09-18-2008, 12:00 PM

Ok thanks for the info. I followed that case closely but couldn't remember specifics after this long.

I followed that case but didn't remember the dates either, but you got me curious so I googled. :D

Anyway, she was eventually convicted so I'm not really worried they haven't filed a murder charge against Casey yet. I'd much rather they take their time and get as much evidence as they can.

deep*fear

09-18-2008, 12:00 PM

Rebel --sorry im reading way behind but read this post----and then think about what TIM told us about *another case"

where they found the remains of a person they weren't looking for?

rosejustrose

09-18-2008, 12:00 PM

I have another theory I've mentioned before. Kids Caylee's age are usually talking a LOT. They'll blurt out almost anything even if told it's a "secret".

Could it be that Caylee was starting to let things slip about what she and Casey did during the day when Casey was supposedly "working"?

Could Casey have killed her so C&G wouldn't find out, and her perfect little life of partying wouldn't be brought to a halt?

JMO

Good theory! I thought the same thing. I think the stolen money and Caylee getting ready to start talking more was more than Casey felt like dealing with. In her evil little mind, getting rid of Caylee solved both problems.

The one thing that puzzles me is the stealing from Amy. Surely she knew she'd get caught yet she spent and risked with reckless abandon, what was that all about? JMO.

day2day

09-18-2008, 12:00 PM

They did, the thugs left and came back later.

handful of protesters stood outside the Anthony's Hopespring Drive home shortly after midnight and taunted the residents by tossing pennies at the front doors and windows, deputies said.

The Anthonys called 911 to report the incident, but the protesters were gone by the time deputies arrived. Orange County Cmdr. Rick Luckey said George Anthony had exchanged "some words" with the protesters, while Cindy Anthony wrote down tag numbers.

The protesters returned sometime before 1:30 a.m. They walked on to the Anthonys' property and started banging on the garage door, reports show.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-091808,0,5492153.story

CASEY called 911. Lets get it straight. She couldn't call for Caylee..but she could for the protestors..Amazing..

barskin&co.

09-18-2008, 12:01 PM

Baez just left with "his girl".

Awwww, that's sweet.

tybek

09-18-2008, 12:01 PM

Why would that "shock" us though? I don't understand that part.

If it were remains, then I think the only thing that would "shock" me is if the remains show conclusive evidence of murder or death by violence (i.e. bashed skull, etc...) I'm sorry to be so graphic, but I am trying to answer the question.

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 12:01 PM

Why would that "shock" us though? I don't understand that part.

Lenny and TES both are saying "shock" and "surprise" what is the most absolutely shocking thing that could be revealed, in your own mind? I think it has to do with the hair sample, imo.....that would truly SHOCK me! I just hope and pray to God with all my heart, it didn't involve Caylee....there are some undescribably evil sick twisted people in this world....

GrandmaGA

09-18-2008, 12:01 PM

Good morning, Ray. Sure, they all have rights.
Casey has a right to be out on bond.
The Anthonys have a right to go anywhere on their property.
The neighbors have a right to a peaceful environment.
The protesters have a right to assemble.

Whose rights should be taken away? imo

The protesters do not have the right to go on the property and bang on the door or throw things at the house in the middle of teh night no less. All that screaming and swearing in the middle of the night is not a right.:rolleyes:

EGirl

09-18-2008, 12:01 PM

Rebel --sorry im reading way behind but read this post----and then think about what TIM told us about *another case"

If you're not going to share the info with all of us, then you should discuss this via pm.

barskin&co.

09-18-2008, 12:02 PM

CASEY called 911. Lets get it straight. She couldn't call for Caylee..but she could for the protestors..Amazing..

Yes, isn't that something?

rosejustrose

09-18-2008, 12:03 PM

TES spokesperson says that NEW developments coming soon that will surprise us all. She also says she will be back...

Thanks! Who is the she that will be back? Caylee!!!????!!!:eek:

concernedmom

09-18-2008, 12:03 PM

I have a sneaking feeling they might make 2 arrests soon. I could just be unrealisticly therorizing here.

Now that would be shocking even tho we suspect, just it happening would shock me.

SavannahStar

09-18-2008, 12:03 PM

Lenny and TES both are saying "shock" and "surprise" what is the most absolutely shocking thing that could be revealed, in your own mind? I think it has to do with the hair sample, imo.....that would truly SHOCK me! I just hope and pray to God with all my heart, it didn't involve Caylee....there are some undescribably evil sick twisted people in this world....

I think the ONLY thing that would shock me is if Caylee were found alive. I don't think TES would have found her alive though. So I am mystified.

MyrDawn

09-18-2008, 12:04 PM

Why would that "shock" us though? I don't understand that part.

I wonder if maybe they found other evidence, such as Caylees backpack and the blue crocks and other things of hers , with decomp that was tested and confirmed to be Caylees.

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 12:04 PM

[QUOTE=rosejustrose;12140008]Good theory! I thought the same thing. I think the stolen money and Caylee getting ready to start talking more was more than Casey felt like dealing with. In her evil little mind, getting rid of Caylee solved both problems.

The one thing that puzzles me is the stealing from Amy. Surely she knew she'd get caught yet she spent and risked with reckless abandon, what was that all about? JMO.[/QUOTE

I think that casey thought, by the time Amy figured it out, casey would be living in california with her marine....casey knew it was only a matter of time, especially with Caylee's birthday coming up, that cindy would demand to see Caylee....that was her next plan...imo...it's just that cindy didn't give her just "one more day"...that's about the only thing that cindy has done right....moo

Albini

09-18-2008, 12:04 PM

Good theory! I thought the same thing. I think the stolen money and Caylee getting ready to start talking more was more than Casey felt like dealing with. In her evil little mind, getting rid of Caylee solved both problems.

The one thing that puzzles me is the stealing from Amy. Surely she knew she'd get caught yet she spent and risked with reckless abandon, what was that all about? JMO.

I think its because she believe that she could talk her way out of it. Like she had some type of power over people in her oen mind and she could convience Amy not to press charges.

Velouria

09-18-2008, 12:05 PM

CASEY called 911. Lets get it straight. She couldn't call for Caylee..but she could for the protestors..Amazing..

You took the words outta my keyboard, day2day.

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 12:05 PM

CK YES I remember. that's why I think 2 arrests are coming soon.

OMG You have no idea how bad i want to know for sure what this is.

Boxer

09-18-2008, 12:05 PM

I know he included TES in his rant to that reporter, but I cannot recall specifically what he said, do you?

Interesting tho, maybe they were informed of this "suprise" and went on the offensive to discredit TES.

he said, "The search is for a live little girl, no matter what you guys are sayin or EquuSearch and all this kinda stuff."

are saying as in saying now?

http://www.wftv.com/news/17189241/detail.html
click Geroge Anthony Yells at Reporters

tybek

09-18-2008, 12:05 PM

Lenny and TES both are saying "shock" and "surprise" what is the most absolutely shocking thing that could be revealed, in your own mind? I think it has to do with the hair sample, imo.....that would truly SHOCK me! I just hope and pray to God with all my heart, it didn't involve Caylee....there are some undescribably evil sick twisted people in this world....

OK, I guess it would shock me if the hair sample and DNA in the trunk which indicated decomposing body turned out to be someone other than Caylee's.

Ckrdpast

09-18-2008, 12:05 PM

where they found the remains of a person they weren't looking for?

No, deep-the other "case" is an entirely different matter

Mairi II

09-18-2008, 12:05 PM

I have another theory I've mentioned before. Kids Caylee's age are usually talking a LOT. They'll blurt out almost anything even if told it's a "secret".

Could it be that Caylee was starting to let things slip about what she and Casey did during the day when Casey was supposedly "working"?

Could Casey have killed her so C&G wouldn't find out, and her perfect little life of partying wouldn't be brought to a halt?

JMO

I've wondered the same thing, MD. I've also wondered if maybe Casey lost her patience with Caylee and ended up hitting her or something and Casey was freaked out, fearful of Caylee telling Cindy.

summer4meplz

09-18-2008, 12:05 PM

There must be something weird with the quote button?

day2day

09-18-2008, 12:05 PM

Yes, isn't that something?

Takes the cake. She has nerve. :(

n/t

09-18-2008, 12:06 PM

Big developments that will SHOCK us.........

Let's do process of elimination:

If they had a new or great lead wouldn't they RUSH back to search, or assist with a search? But this wouldn't be shocking.

If Caylee has been located alive why would they need to be coming back or involved at all? Nah, this isn't the case as wonderful as it would be to hear.

If something (partial remains) were discovered prior to them leaving FL, would they be returning to complete the search when the water level dropped? Is this something they would risk delaying out of necessity?
Would this explain why they are staying in touch with LE and why they plan to return? But again this wouldn't really SHOCK us.

If they had discovered her body and were just waiting on autopsy results to confirm maybe they now know it's Caylee and the shock is this search was called off because she was located, and/or the cause of death. Are they returning to participate in a Press Conference with LE?

Is the trip to CA the final thing LE needs to wrap up before pressing charges?

What other possibilities are there?

Why would they make this teaser announcement?

Maybe where her body was found or the condition of the body?

The only thing that would shock/surprise me would be if there is absolute proof that one of the Anthonys was involved in the cover up.

Maybe where her body was buried and how it was buried? Coffin?

Just speculation.

Albini

09-18-2008, 12:06 PM

Broderick

09-18-2008, 12:07 PM

I said it before; saying it again...someones gonna get hurt badly...These thugs are not protesters, they are harassing that whole neighborhood...and WHY the A's dont just call LE from inside the home is beyond me..

Silly. They shouldn't entertain these protesters. Someone will get hurt. Padilla was 100% correct on the seriousness of the anger in the community and with the protesters and threats. There are a lot of crazy people that might use this for perceived fame.

Where are the body guards that Baez promised?

concernedmom

09-18-2008, 12:07 PM

OK, I guess it would shock me if the hair sample and DNA in the trunk which indicated decomposing body turned out to be someone other than Caylee's.

That would be shocking if Caylee was alive and Casey killed someone else.:eek:

day2day

09-18-2008, 12:07 PM

You took the words outta my keyboard, day2day.

I'm psychic. Not really. Doesn't that just make you sick! I wanna hear THAT call and see if she has any emotion in her da$n voice!

101Spots

09-18-2008, 12:07 PM

Big developments that will SHOCK us.........

<respectfully snipped>

Why would they make this teaser announcement?

Remember this is "as told by" a reporter. Same as NG's "bombshell" announcements - it generally sounds better than it is.

O/T: The worst example I ever saw was a local reporter doing a teaser for the evening news: "Fire in a barn! Almost 15 cows dead!"

There were exactly 14 cows that died, but they had to make it sound sooooooo much better.

barskin&co.

09-18-2008, 12:07 PM

Is it true Casey called 911 last night telling the dispatch operator that her parents had been struck by the protestors?

Her daughter was 'missing' for thirty one days & she never called 911.

How soon after her parents were allegedly struck by the protesters did she call 911?
Yeah, some of us have been talking about that, i.e. her priorities for calling 911. Remember when Cindy had to put her on the phone after she called 911 to report Caylee missing, and she asked "What do they want to speak to me for?"

101Spots

09-18-2008, 12:08 PM

If you're not going to share the info with all of us, then you should discuss this via pm.

I vote for sharing.:D

n/t

09-18-2008, 12:09 PM

hmmmm did the Anthonys lawyer up right after TES left or before? Sorry can't remember.

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 12:10 PM

Hopefully, they'll make at least one ..

True. I agree with you.But one arrest wouldn't shock us or surprise us. 2 would.

MyrDawn

09-18-2008, 12:10 PM

Good theory! I thought the same thing. I think the stolen money and Caylee getting ready to start talking more was more than Casey felt like dealing with. In her evil little mind, getting rid of Caylee solved both problems.

The one thing that puzzles me is the stealing from Amy. Surely she knew she'd get caught yet she spent and risked with reckless abandon, what was that all about? JMO.

One of the earmarks of a psychopath can be that they have criminal tendencies that were not deterred by the idea of punishment.

http://indianni.wordpress.com/2007/07/16/psychopath-vs-sociopath/

Or, she's just plain nuts, but NOT insane enough for that to be a defense.

JMO

101Spots

09-18-2008, 12:10 PM

crymeariver2006

09-18-2008, 12:10 PM

Big developments that will SHOCK us.........

Let's do process of elimination:

If they had a new or great lead wouldn't they RUSH back to search, or assist with a search? But this wouldn't be shocking.

If Caylee has been located alive why would they need to be coming back or involved at all? Nah, this isn't the case as wonderful as it would be to hear.

If something (partial remains) were discovered prior to them leaving FL, would they be returning to complete the search when the water level dropped? Is this something they would risk delaying out of necessity?
Would this explain why they are staying in touch with LE and why they plan to return? But again this wouldn't really SHOCK us.

If they had discovered her body and were just waiting on autopsy results to confirm maybe they now know it's Caylee and the shock is this search was called off because she was located, and/or the cause of death. Are they returning to participate in a Press Conference with LE?

Is the trip to CA the final thing LE needs to wrap up before pressing charges?

What other possibilities are there?

Why would they make this teaser announcement?

The reporter did say "big developments that would surprise us", not that they would shock us. LP is the one who said "the world would be shocked" and the next day they came out with the chloroform.

What would surprise me is if any of the Anthonys stole from TES while they were here.

It wouldn't shock me however.

barskin&co.

09-18-2008, 12:11 PM

hmmmm did the Anthonys lawyer up right after TES left or before? Sorry can't remember.

......after.

need2no

09-18-2008, 12:11 PM

Maybe undiscovered thievery?....after seeing that shocking picture yesterday, I am really leaning towards the sexforhire aspect....the adult parties have also been described as sex parties....dang! is it just me?

Nope, not just you.

I'll start by saying yes, I know Casey lies...but in the interview when the detective asks her why Caylee wasn't excited to talk to her mom (over the phone on 7/15), after being away from her for so long....Casey slipped out with when she had to work at night and didn't see Caylee until the next day blah, blah. Perhaps intertwined with all the numerous lies a statement of truth slid in....maybe sometimes she did work at night. Maybe she did this 'job' when Cindy was willing to babysit, or the 'work' was available....maybe Cindy thought Casey had an event to attend as part of her job duties as an event planner, but this wasn't something she could justify everynight.

Rebel Rouzer

09-18-2008, 12:11 PM

hmmmm did the Anthonys lawyer up right after TES left or before? Sorry can't remember.

I think it was after they left.
Not sure if it was right after or not

day2day

09-18-2008, 12:11 PM

Maybe where her body was found or the condition of the body?

The only thing that would shock/surprise me would be if there is absolute proof that one of the Anthonys was involved in the cover up.

Maybe where her body was buried and how it was buried? Coffin?

Just speculation.

BF believes..
She was found very close to her home. That there will be more than one arrest ..and the way she was killed will all be shocking.

Psssssssssst ..i have told him to get his own account cause im tired of posting his theories..lol hammer

ginky41

09-18-2008, 12:11 PM

Boxer

09-18-2008, 12:12 PM

Remember this is "as told by" a reporter. Same as NG's "bombshell" announcements - it generally sounds better than it is.

O/T: The worst example I ever saw was a local reporter doing a teaser for the evening news: "Fire in a barn! Almost 15 cows dead!"

There were exactly 14 cows that died, but they had to make it sound sooooooo much better.

you forgot MOO

sorry, it had to be done :D

trich

09-18-2008, 12:13 PM

Good theory! I thought the same thing. I think the stolen money and Caylee getting ready to start talking more was more than Casey felt like dealing with. In her evil little mind, getting rid of Caylee solved both problems.

The one thing that puzzles me is the stealing from Amy. Surely she knew she'd get caught yet she spent and risked with reckless abandon, what was that all about? JMO.

It is like a child who puts off admitting they did something wrong full well knowing sooner or later they will have to.
I think Casey lives for the moment and does not think past the nose on her face.

crymeariver2006

09-18-2008, 12:13 PM

OK, I guess it would shock me if the hair sample and DNA in the trunk which indicated decomposing body turned out to be someone other than Caylee's.

That wouldn't come from TES though, would it?

OneUp

09-18-2008, 12:14 PM

I am noting, and thinking about the fact that Casey cried when george was on the stand, and that the only time I know of her calling 911 is to specify that George was being hit...She does seem to be "tighter" with George than I originally thought. Maybe her statement to the friend that she was angry with george because he had cheated on her mother, was mosstly about feeling betrayed and let down by him? Most girls do idolize their dads bit, in Casey's case, this could be extreme because of her "issues".
George was LE and her father...what better idealized hero for a little girl while growing up? Also, notice that her prefence in men is definitely LE. IMO, Casey is hyperidentified with George...now why that is, I'd really want much more info. even to form a solid specualtion on. Maybe being united behind Cindy's back, as she seems the one to confront Casey the only times she has been confronted that we know of...???

I know my own dad let me get away with much more than my mother, we also had a special relationship in many ways. He took me out for treats and fun, and I honestly think my mom was jealous of his attention to me. Mind you, there was NOTHING inappropriate in our relationship, but she acted jealous nonetheless. My mom has her own issues...
I know I sometimes feel sad and sorry for myself a little when My DH has such a good time with either girl and I am left out of it.
JMO.