Caylee Anthony 09-17-08 overnight thread

[armywife1998]

Forgive me if this has been discussed at length before, but is this Juliette Lewis, that Casey speaks of, the actress?? If so, did she really work at Universal, that just seems weird..especially as an Event Coordinator.

[rosejustrose]

Protester being interviewed. Is this the guy that was there the other day with the OCSO is a joke sign?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Yup, that's him.

[desmom]

"A lie won't kill a baby, but hate will
Suffer Casey"

His sign!

I was trying to read his sign. Thanks!

[CNTM]

I'd like to know that too.

We should have t shirts made up.

I'd buy some!

[msgatorslayer]

Real crappy because she didn't even have a job there how would she have a phone from them:shrug:

Oh, definately. But she told them her new phone wasn't working, lmao. Instead of the old one. Which doesn't make sense.

And Des just pointed out that she told Lee she bought the new phone from ATT.

More discrepancies.

[cloe23]

:shrug: Sounds like something a person would say about dropping their child off to the non-custodial parent, IMO.


Or meeting for sex or drugs. JMO

[CNTM]

I was trying to read his sign. Thanks!

YW That is the other one he had yesterday too.

[need2no]

Casey. And Lee. Trying very hard to sound intelligent and convincing.


Yep...too bad it isn't working!!!

[anyonesguess]

Casey. And Lee. Trying very hard to sound intelligent and convincing.

Just like when he said his SPOUSE a couple of times instead of his wife or Cindy.

[poplife]

i don't understand the sign. could someone explain it to me?

[armywife1998]

Now why would that be wierd? I've been working with Brad Pitt at Taco Bell for months now!


:D

*GASP* Brad is cheating on me!! We work together at Pizza Hut :eek:

So, if this is the actress, I can't imagine she's thrilled with being dragged into this.

[Boxer]

How would CA know to meet up with ZFG and Sm if she couldn't get in touch with Zanny because her phone was disconneted?:lol:



I'm never sure of the exact order of things, but was the park script story given AFTER the bloggers found the clothing at the park?

[mosey2]

its simple I'd like to see his work records for the month of May and June and July. Lets see what days he called off yes? I'm sure LE already has all that. I had wondered early on if Casey was afraid of the police for some reason but my theory had to do with her father, and LE. The fact she was sleeping w/so many men leads me to believe she was in an escort service, of some kind. She probably does have other accounts that LE hasnt even found yet. We will see. I'm still good to go with my theory though. A healthy normal libido of a 22yr old, really isnt what this is about. It's really about would Casey throw her own parents under the bus if an accident happened when CINDY was watching CAYLEE? I say no way, she wouldnt do it nor would she take the rap. As in "not my fault" on the jailhouse tapes. IOW Cindy had the kid, she always did. Why else would they all be lying? There isnt anyone or anything else to protect, Casey is a no load. Nothing worth saving or protecting there. Think about it; if you were in her shoes, her parents use you as a scapegoat, would YOU go to jail for your parents even if you despised them? Dots

I thought Cindy said during the bond hearing that George had started a new job just that monday before the 911 calls. I would assume George wasn't working much, if at all during the beginning of July

[trich]

More tapes...why can't Casey remember anyone's phone numbers? Cuz they have changed a lot. She claims to have current number for Jeffrey Hopkins. LE is saying that they can track ZFG through Casey's computer. She knows she has some documentation somewhere...anywhere...whatever. Lies. All lies.
NG talking to the producer, outside on the scene: ONly can confirm that Casey was involved with two but not 4 cops.

oops...
sound gaffoo...

No idea if that was the clip they intended to play or not.

Still on the same clips. NG wasn't lying when she said they were going through them line by line. There are 90 minutes of them ya'll...

Caller: Tamera, Have the grandparents for Caylee ever met ZFG if Casey has known her for 4 years? No says Padilla. He spoke to the real ZFG that LE tracked down. Doesn't know any of them.

Caller: Does Padilla have a listening device in the home? Bull chit..He says no. Said he had a couple of conversations with CA and GA from Sunday when he flew in until Thursday when Casey was bailed out the first time. Claiming no bugs in the house. I do not believe this.

Why is LE interrogating LPadilla? ABout the park story and Sam and Zenaida and the script. Mark Hawkins...some marine who had two conversation with Casey when her car ran out of gas on the 26th of June. Mark lives at 29 Palms...maybe that is where ZFG and Sam were going in this lie upon lie upon lie about where Caylee is.

The more information you have = the less credible you are. My goodness..

Padilla is a liar. He said on NG in a show not too long ago that he was in the trailer while LE and the Anthony's were in the home discussing lie detector tests. They agreed to take one and the Lee came back and said that they wouldn't. How would Padilla have known this little bitty tid bit IF he was not in the home? Called bugs or the BH one of the two. But bottom line..you can't hear a conversation in the house when you are sitting outside of it in trailer. JMO...
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I understood Padilla to say that Lee and his parents were inside the house discusiing the polygraph tests and Lee cam to the trailer and told him that they were going to take them then decided not too.
Yes he just said that he thought Lee is the one who persuaded them not to take the tests.

Probably a good thing because no one believes them any how.
something tells me that Lee might have alot more involvement then anyone really knows.
Maybe that is why he is a constant presence at the house and with Casey.
Also wonder if there are calls to him around that same time period...June 15/16th

[need2no]

Hold up!! I saw this guy the other night, then at the courthouse when she was being released and NOW again!! It's this same guy, chubby black guy yes?? What is he a stalker?? :no:


My pic is kinda grainnie...but he doesn't look black to me.

[g jacks]

*GASP* Brad is cheating on me!! We work together at Pizza Hut :eek:

So, if this is the actress, I can't imagine she's thrilled with being dragged into this.


now that's funny!

[Heyes]

*GASP* Brad is cheating on me!! We work together at Pizza Hut :eek:

So, if this is the actress, I can't imagine she's thrilled with being dragged into this.

Nobody is thrilled to be dragged into this. I bet they involve others before this is all over.
I just hope it isn't george clooney

[concernedmom]

Hold up!! I saw this guy the other night, then at the courthouse when she was being released and NOW again!! It's this same guy, chubby black guy yes?? What is he a stalker?? :no:


Since GA thinks the media is paying protesters I would not be surprised to find GA is paying this guy to be a supporter.

[msjoni]

She doesnt exist. You know what everyone, I think Casey is Zanny. I really do. :shrug: Dots..............

I agree with you Dots, especially after telling LE that Zanny was her nanny for about 2 years...Casey was fired from universal 2 yrs ago....:shrug:

[CNTM]

My pic is kinda grainnie...but he doesn't look black to me.

He was spotlighted while they interviewed him. He's black. Sometimes he looks to be young and sometimes looks to be in late 40's or early 50's!:shrug:

[need2no]

I thought Cindy said during the bond hearing that George had started a new job just that monday before the 911 calls. I would assume George wasn't working much, if at all during the beginning of July


Right...Cindy said she encouraged George to attend some meeting they were having that day, the 14th, his first day at the new job.

[poplife]

My pic is kinda grainnie...but he doesn't look black to me.

he appeared to be during the lighted interview

[need2no]

He was spotlighted while they interviewed him. He's black. Sometimes he looks to be young and sometimes looks to be in late 40's or early 50's!:shrug:



Ok, thanks....is the light on? My pic is dark and blurry.

[AMS]

ALan Ripka - if Casey does not crack and everything stays the same, they would have no homicide charges in this particular case.

[day2day]

this protestor is wearing the orange missing caylee shirt. wonder where he got it?

ebay...?!?!

[rosejustrose]

Real crappy because she didn't even have a job there how would she have a phone from them:shrug:


I think that was from the first interview before they busted her sorry butt for all the lies. OMG, she is one smooth liar. I hate her voice, though. JMO.

[Boxer]

ALan Ripka - if Casey does not crack and everything stays the same, they would have no homicide charges in this particular case.

maybe some other nut will do what nuts do......:shrug:

[CNTM]

Ok, thanks....is the light on? My pic is dark and blurry.

No he's gone now. The light was on while they interviewed him.

[Takotna]

I am so glad to hear of your son's success. I have a teenager with the DX. He has worked hard on anger management and gotten a good hold on that. It is good to hear that the outcome is not always tragic! :)
The key, I believe, is in dealing with it and doing the hard work once you, as a parent, realize that something is not quite right with your child. My son tried to commit suicide when he had just turned 11. That was our wake up call.

It hit me like a hammer when Cindy was asked in the initial bond hearing if Casey had any mental health problems. Cindy carefully answered that Casey had never been diagnosed with any. As a mom dealing with a child with a mental health problem, that comment hit me like a ton of bricks. That was the moment that I realized that Cindy was running on denial, and had been for a long time.

My son was 12 - but now 18 and worth all the effort. I will send my best good thoughts for you and yours. :)

Cindy's statement had the same impact on me. As you know a solid dx takes time. In our case there were people who advised against a documented dx because 'you don't want to put them in a box' - This may have been Cindy's POV. Red flags all over the place! What her statement said to me was Casey was treated for something but not diagnosed. It also says Cindy knew there was a problem. This makes sense to me, Cindy is so worried about appearances. Caylee didn't have a chance.

In my case, without a dx, my son would have been in a box - a pine one.

On this point I would put the responsibility squarely on Cindy. It's scary.


AllMO

[mosey2]

I agree with you Dots, especially after telling LE that Zanny was her nanny for about 2 years...Casey was fired from universal 2 yrs ago....:shrug:
That's the time when all of her strings started >>snapping<<
"Baby-doll cries? Baby-doll needs? Baby-doll tells on me!"

[day2day]

Cindy going on Univision to reach a Spanish speaking audience in Puerto Rico...
Padilla suggested that CA do that to find Caylee because of the friends who did go to PR...

Padilla sux. He sux ya'll. Seriously. If he had not changed his mind more times than...well...whatever...still...this guy is hardly credible. If you follow him he is just about as credible as Casey....and has a reason to stay in the spotlight.


Why is LE goin there to interview him? They must know he is BSing. Remember it was Caey that BOUGHT the tickets for her friends to go PR. But she couldnt go cause she couldnt afford it...lol

jmo

[rosejustrose]

Oh, if I wanted to get rid of her I could of just given her to my parents.

Did I hear that correct?

You did. Another kernel of truth. Cindy was considering custody, Casey is agreeing this is what she would do. Fits nicely in the scenario, if you ask me. JMO.

[kakax]

Cindy going on Univision to reach a Spanish speaking audience in Puerto Rico...
Padilla suggested that CA do that to find Caylee because of the friends who did go to PR...

Padilla sux. He sux ya'll. Seriously. If he had not changed his mind more times than...well...whatever...still...this guy is hardly credible. If you follow him he is just about as credible as Casey....and has a reason to stay in the spotlight.



I agree, LB. I don't put much stock in what he says. The only thing I think that may be important about what he said tonight is that LE might be going to CA to talk to Mark Hawkins. Two phone calls to this guy on the night before she abandoned the car is interesting to me.

[kakax]

I'm just beside myself here...

Lenny P is now considered a source close to the investigation?
She had to have had an accomplice because a bone pokes through the bag of stew and made a mess? Casey needed help keeping her composure??

On another note...
I'm dumbfounded by these tapes. She's sitting in the conference room at the place the cops KNOW SHE DIDN'T WORK...

And she starts the story again...
I dropped her off and went to work .. After work I left Universal .. blah blah blah

Honestly .. her tone .. she lies with such coinviction.
It's just mind-blowing.



Why in the world didn't LE ask her why she needed a babysitter when she didn't have a job? I honestly think they made a mistake in arresting her so soon. I think they have done the best they can, but they could have gotten so much more information if she hadn't been arrested and had had a chance to sit back and think about questions they needed to have answered, they may have gotten closer to the truth.

[summer4meplz]

thanks, and thanks for today. I truly enjoyed it! :rose:

Thanks back atcha....I had so much fun meeting you guys and talking with someone that knows something about this case....I like it when good things come out of bad....:rose::rose:

[msgatorslayer]

I'm just beside myself here...

Lenny P is now considered a source close to the investigation?
She had to have had an accomplice because a bone pokes through the bag of stew and made a mess? Casey needed help keeping her composure??

On another note...
I'm dumbfounded by these tapes. She's sitting in the conference room at the place the cops KNOW SHE DIDN'T WORK...

And she starts the story again...
I dropped her off and went to work .. After work I left Universal .. blah blah blah

Honestly .. her tone .. she lies with such coinviction.
It's just mind-blowing.

:lol: About the bones and stew. When he said that, all I heard was bla,bla,bla. WTH is he talking about!!!

[aubrey04]

Who was on the call logs? Zenaida visited the apartments on the 17th. Casey's friend, Dante, lived in the Sawgrass Apartments. Was he on the call logs? I would be REALLY, REALLY, REALLY interested to see the call logs. I hate to agree with Lenny but I have to wonder about an accomplice. Maybe not someone who actually helped her get rid of the body - Caylee was only 35 lbs,.. Casey could have done that alone.

but would she have kept her yapper shut for all that time? It seems that someone else would have had to have known... maybe?..or maybe not?

:confused:

[day2day]

OH iTA with jymo...seriously. they have been supposedly GOING out to see him since Friday. There have been no flights between now and oh say Tonite...? Not.

If I didn't know better i would think he has a ---->hammer
I do believe he has some phone records. I also believe the records we really need are on the other phone..

jmo

[rosejustrose]

She doesnt exist. You know what everyone, I think Casey is Zanny. I really do. :shrug: Dots..............


I think Casey is crazy. I really do.

[kakax]

If I didn't know better i would think he has a ---->hammer
I do believe he has some phone records. I also believe the records we really need are on the other phone..

jmo

JMO, I don't think there is another phone. I think she used that as a way to not have these numbers in the one phone she had.

[rosejustrose]

Nobody is thrilled to be dragged into this. I bet they involve others before this is all over.
I just hope it isn't george clooney

Don't worry about George, I have my eye on him:D

[Takotna]

Just like when he said his SPOUSE a couple of times instead of his wife or Cindy.


Yes - the words they use often sound contrived. The one that gets me every time is when Cindy wants to report her "AUTO" stolen. FGS, Who says that?:shrug:

AllMO

[msjoni]

That's the time when all of her strings started >>snapping<<
"Baby-doll cries? Baby-doll needs? Baby-doll tells on me!"

My daughter is student teaching pre-schooler's , 3to4 years old...She told me they have talk time when the kids are supposed to talk about the story that was just read...she told me the kids just say whatever pops into their heads like "my Mommy hates my Daddy" etc....I think Casey might have been saying these type of things to Cindy....

[aubrey04]

~snipped~

On another note...
I'm dumbfounded by these tapes. She's sitting in the conference room at the place the cops KNOW SHE DIDN'T WORK...

And she starts the story again...
I dropped her off and went to work .. After work I left Universal .. blah blah blah

Honestly .. her tone .. she lies with such coinviction.
It's just mind-blowing.

I know. Isn't that wild? The investigators bust her in her lies about working at Universal, but then a few minutes later.. she is acting like she works there again. It's NUTS!

[bchand]

I think Casey is crazy. I really do.

I can agree with that.

[dtviewer]

JMO, I don't think there is another phone. I think she used that as a way to not have these numbers in the one phone she had.

Of course there was no other phone.
How many lies/stories has she told about the BlackJack now?
I bought it from the AT&T store.
Work supplied it.
It had Zannys number.
I may have lost it at universal.
I left it on my work desk.

Sorry, there was no BlackJack.....and no ZFG...and no Julliet...and no Racquel...and no Job...and no ZFG apartment...and no script...etc. etc..

[SandyO]

I chatted with a number of total strangers yesterday while passing the idle hours at jury duty and I asked all of them if they were following the Caylee Anthony case from Orlando. Not one was, and most had only a faint idea of what this case is about. I thought that was interesting.

[kakax]

Brilliant as always Kafax. Brilliant as always. that is all that we can get from Padilla because the rest from him is just supposition and speculation. If he had bugs in the home he can't monitor them now. If he had been solely using the female BH or RD in the home to monitor Casey he doesn't have that now. What he has is basically speculation and more importantly HER phone records. Given to him by Lee...whom Padilla has accused in some reports of fathering Caylee, of helping Casey dispose of Caylee, of all this other stuff...and yet Lee gave him the records that basically show that Casey is an even bigger liar. Padilla just wants to be sensational at this point. Yes the Anthony's aren't right in the head. Yes that family is odd...but Padilla has his theory and it obviously revolves around Lee somehow...

But the most important point is this new character Mark Hawkins and what he means to Casey. Who knows if he means anything. Other than she called him. She could have met him at a bar or on the beach. Goodness knows I certainly met a few people on the beach when I was in Florida. One claimed to be CIA after begging me to take his picture with him. LOL.


Exactly!!! The theory of Lee being Caylee's father is ludicrous IMO. She had enough other "partners"....why speculate that he is the father? Cause he is doing his best to stay inserted in this story.

Rofl....Florida is full of some characters for sure. I lived in Jacksonville for a year and I think I ran into the same CIA guy LOL!!!

[bchand]

<<snipped>>


But the most important point is this new character Mark Hawkins and what he means to Casey. Who knows if he means anything. Other than she called him. She could have met him at a bar or on the beach. Goodness knows I certainly met a few people on the beach when I was in Florida. One claimed to be CIA after begging me to take his picture with him. LOL.


Mark graduated in the same class that Casey would have right?

[Boxer]

Mark graduated in the same class that Casey would have right?



yes, ma'am

[Pruddennce]

question: Did LE go to california? if yes, why?

Regarding Lenny P: he gets his information from the w w w boards....Im convinced of it. he and his clan have inserted themselves in this tragedy to showcase themselves and make money down the road...

its not about a precious child, its about a story.....

dont they see the horror? Casey A is the horror.

Zanny, as a drug reference.....that has been mentioned a zillion times by various posters way before the media decided to print such a story.....

the only story here and now remains the same:

Mom Casey was partying it up while her daughter was missing
Mom Casey is a thief
Mom Casey is a liar
Baby Caylee is dead <----grandparents better get a grip

Im a bit exhausted hearing the Anthonys say: look for Caylee when they remain prisoners of a psychopath in their own home and have done nothing but showcase themselves, instead of Caylee: Caylee, they believe is alive..well?????? why were/are they sitting there muddying up the airwaves, the air itself with their nonsensical dribble about themselves?

hope LE is gathering steam and will take control of this runaway train called Casey Anthony and family and have enought to arrest her for murder.

its disgraceful behaviour on all sides........the Anthonys every chance they get talking about themselves and not about their grandaughter...and making claims they dont speak to Casey about the situation.

then why are they speaking to the world at large?

it is my hope that the media turns their back on them as soon as possible. not on the case, but on them personally. no more air time for them, no cam (thats just wrong, IMO), eliminate the podium. then maybe they will turn inward and see the psychopath living in their home.

as long as they are being focused on, they will not look behind themselves or around themselves....outside forces have taken over common sense.

I would like to see how long they would last in their home, with casey, with no media coverage spotlighting them.

best regards,
Pru

[mosey2]

Knowing what we know, so far, does anyone have a theory as to where Casey dumped Caylee??

[bchand]

I chatted with a number of total strangers yesterday while passing the idle hours at jury duty and I asked all of them if they were following the Caylee Anthony case from Orlando. Not one was, and most had only a faint idea of what this case is about. I thought that was interesting.


What way were they leaning? Child missing or Mother didn't report child missing for 30 days etc?

[msgatorslayer]

Of course there was no other phone.
How many lies/stories has she told about the BlackJack now?
I bought it from the AT&T store.
Work supplied it.
It had Zannys number.
I may have lost it at universal.
I left it on my work desk.

Sorry, there was no BlackJack.....and no ZFG...and no Julliet...and no Racquel...and no Job...and no ZFG apartment...and no script...etc. etc..

Nope. None of the above. Only Casey and Caylee. And only one came back.:cuss:

[Deb7]

Cindy has said Georgia, North Carolina, New York, New Jersey, Texas, Mexico, Porto Rico and I'm sure I'm missing some more states.:shrug:...


You are, I don't count 49 there (not counting FL of course because she definitely isn't in FL :rolleyes: ).

[dixie77]

If I didn't know better i would think he has a ---->hammer
I do believe he has some phone records. I also believe the records we really need are on the other phone..

jmo
========

That phone may be buried in the hole in the backyard where G. transplanted that bush. JMO

[cassidy]

I chatted with a number of total strangers yesterday while passing the idle hours at jury duty and I asked all of them if they were following the Caylee Anthony case from Orlando. Not one was, and most had only a faint idea of what this case is about. I thought that was interesting.

Everyone in my office is following it. Because I am making them follow it! I do daily updates and we have a morning discussion. I even called them all in when there is anything about the case on the Today show. they thought I was crazy for awhile, now they ask questions :)

[kakax]

Of course there was no other phone.
How many lies/stories has she told about the BlackJack now?
I bought it from the AT&T store.
Work supplied it.
It had Zannys number.
I may have lost it at universal.
I left it on my work desk.

Sorry, there was no BlackJack.....and no ZFG...and no Julliet...and no Racquel...and no Job...and no ZFG apartment...and no script...etc. etc..


You know that everyone around her is just shocked. They thought they knew someone and had no idea that EVERYTHING about this girl was a lie. Everything. Sad she had to make up such a fictitious life and drug her daughter into it.

[Boxer]

Knowing what we know, so far, does anyone have a theory as to where Casey dumped Caylee??

(gulp) random dumpster

[SandyO]

What way were they leaning? Child missing or Mother didn't report child missing for 30 days etc?

ALL of them guessed that it was about a missing child. Period. They didn't know anything else and had no thoughts, but they'd 'heard' something about it a while back.

[poplife]

Lol Idol get out of my head. I was just going to write, WHY CNN WHY are you putting this CON ARTIST on your primetime show, after his background was revealed? Are you all full of rocks too? I mean come ON VET THESE PEOPLE!!! This Padilla is a CON ARTIST NANCY GRACE, check him out. And please stop putting him on the AIR!! How can you all do this to Caylee? This isnt journalism it's tabloid fodder. This was a TWO YEAR OLD CHILD!!! PADILLA IS A HOAX, what does it take for you all to get that? (i mean the network CNN and FOX) Please stop giving this freak air time. He is an Ex Con. Period. I think you should hire someone to do background checks before you decide to use them as a SOURCE on your "SHOWS". ... Dots..................................

Did you do background on him? What did you find if so?

[dtviewer]

(gulp) random dumpster

Agreed....

[rosejustrose]

Knowing what we know, so far, does anyone have a theory as to where Casey dumped Caylee??

Lake Jessup.

[msgatorslayer]

Knowing what we know, so far, does anyone have a theory as to where Casey dumped Caylee??

I do not.

She probably didn't go very far. Thats really all I think about it. Who knows what goes through a persons mind when they think about where they will dump a body.

[kakax]

question: Did LE go to california? if yes, why?

Regarding Lenny P: he gets his information from the w w w boards....Im convinced of it. he and his clan have inserted themselves in this tragedy to showcase themselves and make money down the road...

its not about a precious child, its about a story.....

dont they see the horror? Casey A is the horror.

Zanny, as a drug reference.....that has been mentioned a zillion times by various posters way before the media decided to print such a story.....

the only story here and now remains the same:

Mom Casey was partying it up while her daughter was missing
Mom Casey is a thief
Mom Casey is a liar
Baby Caylee is dead <----grandparents better get a grip

Im a bit exhausted hearing the Anthonys say: look for Caylee when they remain prisoners of a psychopath in their own home and have done nothing but showcase themselves, instead of Caylee: Caylee, they believe is alive..well?????? why were/are they sitting there muddying up the airwaves, the air itself with their nonsensical dribble about themselves?

hope LE is gathering steam and will take control of this runaway train called Casey Anthony and family and have enought to arrest her for murder.

its disgraceful behaviour on all sides........the Anthonys every chance they get talking about themselves and not about their grandaughter...and making claims they dont speak to Casey about the situation.

then why are they speaking to the world at large?

it is my hope that the media turns their back on them as soon as possible. not on the case, but on them personally. no more air time for them, no cam (thats just wrong, IMO), eliminate the podium. then maybe they will turn inward and see the psychopath living in their home.

as long as they are being focused on, they will not look behind themselves or around themselves....outside forces have taken over common sense.

I would like to see how long they would last in their home, with casey, with no media coverage spotlighting them.

best regards,
Pru

Pru, you have outdone yourself, which I thought was impossible.

[rosejustrose]

I chatted with a number of total strangers yesterday while passing the idle hours at jury duty and I asked all of them if they were following the Caylee Anthony case from Orlando. Not one was, and most had only a faint idea of what this case is about. I thought that was interesting.

I agree. Most people know about this case vaguely because it's showcased on NG and they've been broadcasting tidbits on the Today show. Other than that, most people here in Virginia haven't really heard about Caylee. JMO.

[Shellberry]

Hi everyone, good evening-just hopping in.

Great point bchand....they can't remember the exact date they last saw this precious child yet they can remember details about clothes, times, phone calls and TV programs. :cuss:
wasnt he watching a cooking show on the food network or something? I wonder if he remembers what they were cooking that day--that would be able to tell what date he was watching.
hmmm

Protester being interviewed. Is this the guy that was there the other day with the OCSO is a joke sign?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
oh-he is that same guy!

Forgive me if this has been discussed at length before, but is this Juliette Lewis, that Casey speaks of, the actress?? If so, did she really work at Universal, that just seems weird..especially as an Event Coordinator.
Casey's juliette was spelled juliet.
I remember her spelling that out to lee in one of the jailhouse conversations.

Interesting christina saying that casey could have got someone to help her.
I wonder if she is the one casey got? unknowingly of course, maybe by telling le that she saw casey and caylee at the park on the 12th 13th or 14th of june.



imo/jmo

[Boxer]

Did you do background on him? What did you find if so?


I know he has no problem inviting a convicted child preditor to live on his property.:shrug::flamemad:

[dixie77]

Mark graduated in the same class that Casey would have right?
==========

LE is going there to see him.........so that tells me he has something of value to tell them. JMO

[msgatorslayer]

You know that everyone around her is just shocked. They thought they knew someone and had no idea that EVERYTHING about this girl was a lie. Everything. Sad she had to make up such a fictitious life and drug her daughter into it.

I felt so bad for Ryan after reading his interview with LE.

Can you imagine finding out everything about your BFF is a lie? He must be devestated.

[bchand]

ALL of them guessed that it was about a missing child. Period. They didn't know anything else and had no thoughts, but they'd 'heard' something about it a while back.

Not sure where you're from but that makes me think of the change of venue deal. Can you imagine, being on a jury, having not heard a word about this case and all of this bizarre info comes in?

There's no where on earth that jurors aren't going to see right through her lies. I just hope they don't lol.

[mosey2]

Lake Jessup.
Why Lake Jessup, particularly? TIA

[bchand]

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LE is going there to see him.........so that tells me he has something of value to tell them. JMO

No, that was just Lenny's theory. He has NO idea if LE is going to see Mark Hawkins or not. Just another one of Lenny's made up ideas.

[kakax]

(gulp) random dumpster


Unfortunately, I agree with you. I think the driving around all of those areas was to find a dumpster that wasn't out in the open. I seriously doubt that Casey would have trudged it through snakey, alligator infested, lagoony areas to dump her body.

:(

[Margo555]

Even more important to me, is it normal for a testing lab to give out results to a defense attorney before charges are filed?
Maybe JB is allowed access to that info, but I doubt it at this point.

Hi Blu, I think JB is learning to lie from Casey. I can't even imagine a testing agency like the U of Tenn. giving out results or even progress to a def. lawyer when they were submitted by the LE. An no charges have even been filed yet. He's spinning just like the rest of them. He thinks we are all dummies. MOO :cuss:

[cassidy]

No, that was just Lenny's theory. He has NO idea if LE is going to see Mark Hawkins or not. Just another one of Lenny's made up ideas.

I agree. I doubt that LE is keeping Lenny in the loop.

[kakax]

No, that was just Lenny's theory. He has NO idea if LE is going to see Mark Hawkins or not. Just another one of Lenny's made up ideas.



You know, if LE thought what LP had to say was so important, don't you think LE would have said ZIP IT? LP throws out new names every night, new theories....I just don't trust what he says.

[msgatorslayer]

wth is the status of the "cement slab' in the backyard?????

There never was a slab poured in the backyard. It was decorative pavers, placed. to make a patio.

[Pebbles]

I'll never forget seeing Casey and Lee high five. I sit sometimes and think how i would act if my baby was missing.........i couldn't hold my head up more less high five someone.

I agree, I keep seeing this image in my mind over and over again. This seems to be a game for Casey, her against them (LE). This has never been about Caylee, the only person Casey wants to save is herself.

[dixie77]

No, that was just Lenny's theory. He has NO idea if LE is going to see Mark Hawkins or not. Just another one of Lenny's made up ideas.
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Sorry i meant the Marine. too many characters to keep up with.

[Boxer]

I agree. I doubt that LE is keeping Lenny in the loop.

I'm sure LE has a little manilla folder on Lenny....imo of course

[bchand]

You know, if LE thought what LP had to say was so important, don't you think LE would have said ZIP IT? LP throws out new names every night, new theories....I just don't trust what he says.

I agree kakax and I can't figure out why they would waste their time going to CA to talk with him (or Mr. Dick). They've probably heard all they have to say on Nancy Grace by now.

[joint-heir]

I really think this lawyer is the cause of all the confidence Cindy & George have and all their ideas. He is feeding them and making the show burn....
He is keeping Casey so confident that she can beat this! He keeps an absolute hold on her! I think common sense would have reached them(Cindy & George) If it weren't for Romeo Baez aura (laughable), but Cindy has fallen for it and Casey laps it up! I know we have to have lawyers, but when they defend a guilty person, they have to have control, and spin, spin, spin! Criticize everything LE does, feed their own line to the public. He spins that we are gullible to believe the evidence that has come forth.. I know it's their job, but how can they sleep at night?
My opinion......

[kakax]

I felt so bad for Ryan after reading his interview with LE.

Can you imagine finding out everything about your BFF is a lie? He must be devestated.



It's like the title of Ann Rule's book...The Stranger Beside Me. I am sure there are many that are scarred by this.

[rosejustrose]

Why Lake Jessup, particularly? TIA

Because I think it lends itself to the most likely place to completely obliterate any sign of Caylee courtesy of the gators. JMO. Also, she wouldn't have to lift Caylee over her head to place her in a dumpster, she could just roll her down the banks of the lake into the infested waters.

[Boxer]

[QUOTE=Boxer;12137607]and why did George remember what they were wearing? It was, after all, just a normal day:shrug: what was she wearing the day before that, George?[/QUOTE

George is going to be the first one to crack. Cindy & Lee are constantly trying to calm him down like on the first interview. Cindy sat so close on the couch and held on his hand. Why did he wait until 10PM to come home the day Caylee was found to be missing? I agree the LE should dig up the hibicus bush and get the dogs back out there.
Cindy changed her dead person statement to the police as soon as GA arrived home after her 911 calls. Why report $10. worth of gas as stolen? It is all just too much. My husband would not remember what I wore today.IMO, George will 'crack' at the top of his lungs while grabbing the shirt of some reporter or protester.

[dtviewer]

I really think this lawyer is the cause of all the confidence Cindy & George have and all their ideas. He is feeding them and making the show burn....
He is keeping Casey so confident that she can beat this! He keeps an absolute hold on her! I think common sense would have reached them(Cindy & George) If it weren't for Romeo Baez aura (laughable), but Cindy has fallen for it and Casey laps it up! I know we have to have lawyers, but when they defend a guilty person, they have to have control, and spin, spin, spin! Criticize everything LE does, feed their own line to the public. He spins that we are gullible to believe the evidence that has come forth.. I know it's their job, but how can they sleep at night?
My opinion......

They are vampires. I dont think they need to sleep at night......

[kakax]

I agree kakax and I can't figure out why they would waste their time going to CA to talk with him (or Mr. Dick). They've probably heard all they have to say on Nancy Grace by now.

If this information was so important, why didn't LP talk to LE before he left? It just doesn't make sense that they would make a trip out there just to dot their i's.

[desmom]

George is going to be the first one to crack. Cindy & Lee are constantly trying to calm him down like on the first interview. Cindy sat so close on the couch and held on his hand. Why did he wait until 10PM to come home the day Caylee was found to be missing? I agree the LE should dig up the hibicus bush and get the dogs back out there.
Cindy changed her dead person statement to the police as soon as GA arrived home after her 911 calls. Why report $10. worth of gas as stolen? It is all just too much. My husband would not remember what I wore today.

Has LE ever interviewed Lee's girlfriend?

[Pebbles]

Arizona, too.. IIRC

Anywhere BESIDES Florida!


Oh but the other day Cindy was in Goodwill in Orlando, saying she received a tip that Caylee had been seen there. :shrug:

[rosejustrose]

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Sorry i meant the Marine. too many characters to keep up with.

Ain't that the truth, dixie. What's difficult is sorting through the real people from the pretend people Casey made up. JMO.

[Lynden1000]

Sorry, I have a theory that George Disposed of her Remains, cleaned his little girls butt the way he always has. I know that's not pretty but it's the only way I can put it. This family disgusts me; truly and deeply. :shrug: I believe when GeorgeA insisted on going into the trunk in Casey's car, he found her body, from that point on.....the gas cans and disposal became Georges mess. Im sure of it. The Chloro too. so A's I hope you are all ready, to play hard ball. Dots

I agree. I think George's involvement is the best explanation for Cindy's transformation from the frantic grandmother who called the police on her own daughter to the resolutely defensive person we see now. I think she'd be willing to see Casey in jail, but not George.

[Boxer]

anyone think George's angry outburst was cuz Phil McGraw walkin in and said How's that workin for ya? :tongue:

[Shellberry]

Knowing what we know, so far, does anyone have a theory as to where Casey dumped Caylee??

I still think in J B Park.
along the trail somehwere, but hidden further back.



imo/jmo

[kakax]

Question to ask the Anthonys:


IF Caylee is in fact dead, does she deserve a proper funeral and resting place?


Note to reporter asking this - don't ask when GA has a hammer.

[Shellberry]

anyone think George's angry outburst was cuz Phil McGraw walkin in and said How's that workin for ya? :tongue:

I dont know, but I havent seen him in a while, I like his 'scumbag' line though.

did they decide to let dr phil interview them?


imo/jmo

[msgatorslayer]

If this information was so important, why didn't LP talk to LE before he left? It just doesn't make sense that they would make a trip out there just to dot their i's.

I wonder the same. But haven't kept up with Lenny well enough to know if he had already went back to Cali prior to spewing his new information on NG.

[bchand]

I really think this lawyer is the cause of all the confidence Cindy & George have and all their ideas. He is feeding them and making the show burn....
He is keeping Casey so confident that she can beat this! He keeps an absolute hold on her! I think common sense would have reached them(Cindy & George) If it weren't for Romeo Baez aura (laughable), but Cindy has fallen for it and Casey laps it up! I know we have to have lawyers, but when they defend a guilty person, they have to have control, and spin, spin, spin! Criticize everything LE does, feed their own line to the public. He spins that we are gullible to believe the evidence that has come forth.. I know it's their job, but how can they sleep at night?
My opinion......


I feel the same about Baez. He's got Casey feeling very confident and the Anthony's believe everything he says.

I agree we must have defense attorneys BUT I can't help wondering how he feels about all real efforts to find Caylee STOPPED once he was on board.

The only way this child could have been found was if the mother talked, and he effectively stopped that from happening.

[aubrey04]

Do you think that Cindy has any clue that Puerto Rico is still the United States?

Interesting question which made me think about something. It seems they are trying to point the investigation as far away from Florida as possible. I wonder if part of the reason they picked Puerto Rico is because you do NOT need a passport to get into PR, yet it is far removed from the United States.

..just a thought...

next up, we might hear Alaska. :rolleyes:

[barskin&co.]

Ain't that the truth, dixie. What's difficult is sorting through the real people from the pretend people Casey made up. JMO.


That's true. LE shouldn't try to interview, for instance, Gomer Pyle.

[g jacks]

anyone think George's angry outburst was cuz Phil McGraw walkin in and said How's that workin for ya? :tongue:



LOL!!!!! that just made my night. too funny.

[bchand]

anyone think George's angry outburst was cuz Phil McGraw walkin in and said How's that workin for ya? :tongue:

What did I miss about Dr. Phil Boxer?

[Boxer]

I dont know, but I havent seen him in a while, I like his 'scumbag' line though.

did they decide to let dr phil interview them?


imo/jmo



so they say, anyway. supposedly a producer ther etoday, I believe

[Pebbles]

If anyone gets to Nancy, first tell her the twins are just the cutest things you have ever laid eyes on, then ask her to unleash the lawyers and ask them if they hold hands with clients. You might want to throw in she is your hero. She likes that.



What I thought was interesting on NG tonight was the fact that the first caller asked since Casey lied so good, would she be able to pass a lie detector test. And guess what, NG just happened to have the lie detector expert there. I am beginning to wonder if the questions are set up.

[kakax]

Has LE ever interviewed Lee's girlfriend?


Not that I know of. Doesn't mean they haven't. I went on Lee's myspace weeks ago when it wasn't set to private. There was a very interesting exchange between he and his g/f. He was talking about being on an airplane coming back from a trip and realizing in that moment (he said maybe it was the song he was listening to on his ipod) that he wanted to take their relationship further.

They obviously had been discussing the direction of their relationship at the time.

Wonder if she has hit the road with all of this mess.

[dixie77]

Ain't that the truth, dixie. What's difficult is sorting through the real people from the pretend people Casey made up. JMO.
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U got that right, Rose. But just to be sure, it is the Marine that LE is going to Ca. to talk to.....right? Lord, my head is spinning. lol

[martha]

Casey lawyer is going to make everyone mad at him. he is saying le or not doing their job. I think he is just making up stuff to keep this case going. Just like c and g lawyer what is he up to. both of them just want to be seen on tv. They want everyone to know who they or. I am just sick of all the lyes and spins they or putting on this case. I think casey first court app.is in nov. I hope by then they have some more charges on her. put her in jail with all the other people in there.i bet they could make her talk.jmho:rose:

[impartial]

Any news today?

:seeya:

[Boxer]

What did I miss about Dr. Phil Boxer?

it was reported that a producer would be there today I think from the show

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/dr-phil-caylee-anthony-and-casey-anthony/

[mosey2]

Because I think it lends itself to the most likely place to completely obliterate any sign of Caylee courtesy of the gators. JMO. Also, she wouldn't have to lift Caylee over her head to place her in a dumpster, she could just roll her down the banks of the lake into the infested waters.
You raise good points.
I, too, tend to think she deposited the body in a lake. There are sure enough of them. And we all now how much Casey loved the internet. I can picture her gooling a deserted place.
She brings real places up in her fictitional accounts. I have noticed that most of the places she talks about are on the SE part of town. In newly developed areas: Avalon Park, Andover Lake, Alafaya Club Apts (which are very close to Alafaya Trail Rd where Jesus Ortiz died) All these areas are very close to the Airport, where LE said her cell phone pinged on the target date.
MOO

[dixie77]

Not that I know of. Doesn't mean they haven't. I went on Lee's myspace weeks ago when it wasn't set to private. There was a very interesting exchange between he and his g/f. He was talking about being on an airplane coming back from a trip and realizing in that moment (he said maybe it was the song he was listening to on his ipod) that he wanted to take their relationship further.

They obviously had been discussing the direction of their relationship at the time.

Wonder if she has hit the road with all of this mess.
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If i were Lee's g/f, i would be a gone pecan.

[rosejustrose]

Not that I know of. Doesn't mean they haven't. I went on Lee's myspace weeks ago when it wasn't set to private. There was a very interesting exchange between he and his g/f. He was talking about being on an airplane coming back from a trip and realizing in that moment (he said maybe it was the song he was listening to on his ipod) that he wanted to take their relationship further.

They obviously had been discussing the direction of their relationship at the time.

Wonder if she has hit the road with all of this mess.

If I were her I'd run as fast and as far away from the Anthonys as I could:chicken: I'm skeered of crazy people:chicken:

[KOOL LOOK]

:rose: Newbie here. Wanted to say "Hello", I've enjoyed reading the great posts. Forum site well maintained and interesting. I've been following this case since the beginning also at another forum too and hope to participate here also.

Take care and I'll be back to discuss some tomorrow.

I believe Casey has taken Caylee's life. I believe the family is covering up and maybe so far as and earlier than the first initial phone call to LE from Cindy. I think the coverup began after Cindy hunted down Casey at the friends apartment, forced her to leave with her, hence coverup then phone call to LE.

IMO, Casey has several mental issues along with Cindy being the raising parent that has created these personality problems within Casey as we have learned and gotten to see Cindy's very own actions and words.

Talk later, peace and good night, friends. :seeya:

[Boxer]

Any news today?

:seeya:

Cindy reported she lost 29 pounds...she had no report on Caylee's weight loss

[kakax]

I wonder the same. But haven't kept up with Lenny well enough to know if he had already went back to Cali prior to spewing his new information on NG.



I'm pretty sure he was back in CA. NG said that she had been asking him questions for week and why was he telling her this now. It will take a little work to find out the first time he said it. Promise I'll look tomorrow. I'm worn out from a long afternoon of 5th grade homework LOL!!

[bchand]

Dont get cocky- remember phil spector#1, MOST of us thought
he would be found guilty.

What is Baezs secret weaepon?


Did you SEE Baez at the bond hearing? or even the arraignments? Unless he's kidding us with those performances - I don't think he has a secret weapon lol.

(You're right about Spector - hope he enjoyed his summer.)

[kakax]

:rose: Newbie here. Wanted to say "Hello", I've enjoyed reading the great posts. Forum site well maintained and interesting. I've been following this case since the beginning also at another forum too and hope to participate here also.

Take care and I'll be back to discuss some tomorrow.

I believe Casey has taken Caylee's life. I believe the family is covering up and maybe so far as and earlier than the first initial phone call to LE from Cindy. I think the coverup began after Cindy hunted down Casey at the friends apartment, forced her to leave with her, hence coverup then phone call to LE.

IMO, Casey has several mental issues along with Cindy being the raising parent that has created these personality problems within Casey as we have learned and gotten to see Cindy's very own actions and words.

Talk later, peace and good night, friends. :seeya:


Welcome!!! Look forward to posting with you!

[dixie77]

cindy reported she lost 29 pounds...she had no report on caylee's weight loss
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rofl

[impartial]

Cindy reported she lost 29 pounds...she had no report on Caylee's weight loss


Seriously?

[mosey2]

What I thought was interesting on NG tonight was the fact that the first caller asked since Casey lied so good, would she be able to pass a lie detector test. And guess what, NG just happened to have the lie detector expert there. I am beginning to wonder if the questions are set up.
LOL they have so many people trying to call in, the operator just says "Nope, sorry. Thanks! Next caller" until they find a caller that fits that day's format.

[Pebbles]

I have REAL suspicions about what Casey had in store for her parents too. She was telling people that her mother was giving her the house to live in and making plans with Amy (was it Amy??) to live with her in that house.. It could have been one more of Casey's elaborate lies OR she could have had plans for them, too. I'd sleep with one open, if I were the Anthonys.

By the way - I apologize for all my misspellings, poor grammar and badly written posts tonight. I am too trigger happy with the send button to bother proof reading- I guess..lol :chicken:



This is something I have always thought about when I read the documents, that is the first thing that came to my mind when I read that she told Amy she would be getting her parents house.

I also type fast and hit the send button without proofreading.

[msgatorslayer]

What I thought was interesting on NG tonight was the fact that the first caller asked since Casey lied so good, would she be able to pass a lie detector test. And guess what, NG just happened to have the lie detector expert there. I am beginning to wonder if the questions are set up.

I think sometimes her shows are live and other days they are pre-recorded. The phone call questions may also be set-up.

[Boxer]

Seriously?


as a lost child....

[g jacks]

Cindy reported she lost 29 pounds...she had no report on Caylee's weight loss

:D another good one!!!

[Boxer]

I think sometimes her shows are live and other days they are pre-recorded. The phone call questions may also be set-up.

since you brought that up...on Melinda Duckett's stuff, didn't she do herself in before the show went on and they aired it anyway? do I have that right? I can't remember for sure.

[mosey2]

:rose: Newbie here. Wanted to say "Hello", I've enjoyed reading the great posts. Forum site well maintained and interesting. I've been following this case since the beginning also at another forum too and hope to participate here also.

Take care and I'll be back to discuss some tomorrow.

I believe Casey has taken Caylee's life. I believe the family is covering up and maybe so far as and earlier than the first initial phone call to LE from Cindy. I think the coverup began after Cindy hunted down Casey at the friends apartment, forced her to leave with her, hence coverup then phone call to LE.

IMO, Casey has several mental issues along with Cindy being the raising parent that has created these personality problems within Casey as we have learned and gotten to see Cindy's very own actions and words.

Talk later, peace and good night, friends.
:seeya:Howdy! Hang up your cowboy hat, pull up a hammer and stay awhile! The circus has already begun.

[need2no]

Hi everyone, good evening-just hopping in.


wasnt he watching a cooking show on the food network or something? I wonder if he remembers what they were cooking that day--that would be able to tell what date he was watching.
hmmm


oh-he is that same guy!


Casey's juliette was spelled juliet.
I remember her spelling that out to lee in one of the jailhouse conversations.

Interesting christina saying that casey could have got someone to help her.
I wonder if she is the one casey got? unknowingly of course, maybe by telling le that she saw casey and caylee at the park on the 12th 13th or 14th of june.



imo/jmo

I like your thinking!

Well now...I would like for someone to ask George while he is under oath in a Grand Jury hearing just what they were cooking on the program that day....that would be very telling.

[kakax]

If I were her I'd run as fast and as far away from the Anthonys as I could:chicken: I'm skeered of crazy people:chicken:



I would too. I would have a hard time being with someone who didn't want their sister held accountable for a missing child.

It was crazy to me that Scott Peterson's SIL was so outspoken on his behalf. I thought she seemed to be a "normal" person in the midst of crazy people and thought she would break at some point. I see she never did. It amazes me what people will believe.

[impartial]

as a lost child....


Ohhhhhh, yes she has.

:(

[Boxer]

:D another good one!!!


I didn't intend it to be. It just makes me so angry that they all think of themselves first...ya know?:shrug:

[impartial]

since you brought that up...on Melinda Duckett's stuff, didn't she do herself in before the show went on and they aired it anyway? do I have that right? I can't remember for sure.


Yep and yep.

[kakax]

since you brought that up...on Melinda Duckett's stuff, didn't she do herself in before the show went on and they aired it anyway? do I have that right? I can't remember for sure.



I have tried to find the video of NG interviewing Melinda for a long time. I have never been able to find it. I think I recall seeing some clips but I never got to see the whole thing.

[CNTM]

Cindy reported she lost 29 pounds...she had no report on Caylee's weight loss

Oooh burrrrnnnnn!:beer:

I'd like that on a t-shirt please!

[Pebbles]

I recognized his stature and his face! I've seen this guy three times now. :shrug: he was black on my screen. Chbby too. This is the same guy because I took note of him for whatever reason the first time in front of the home. Then I saw him in front of the jail waiting for her to come out on the cam and now this. Something about him, he had on the caylee is missing shirt. That was it; I was trying to decide if he was one of "george a's boys that he had hired, or just a weird protestor?



He supports Casey, says she is innocent, he was interviewed by local news here in Orlando. Guess that is one way of getting on television. :biggrin:

[bchand]

I didn't intend it to be. It just makes me so angry that they all think of themselves first...ya know?:shrug:

But it's so true. If Cindy has lost 29 lbs, tell it to Casey !

I'll bet she hasn't lost weight, lost her appetite or lost any sleep over losing her daughter.

[Boxer]

I have tried to find the video of NG interviewing Melinda for a long time. I have never been able to find it. I think I recall seeing some clips but I never got to see the whole thing.



I did. It was so like this case. Sometimes, I think it was Casey's script...


thanks, Impartial. I thought I had it right, but was unsure.

[aubrey04]

Dont get cocky- remember phil spector#1, MOST of us thought
he would be found guilty.

What is Baezs secret weaepon?

Doing the unthinkable apparently.. Keeping Casey quiet. I didn't think that he'd be able to do it, but he did. She apparently likes to talk A LOT. I think he's been effective on that front.

[g jacks]

i have a question. probably stupid, but seeing if someone could help me understand. all of the experts say that if a body was found now, after decomposing in gosh knows what kind of conditions, that it would be hard if not impossible to target cause of death. seems to me like, hard if not impossible to link it to KC which plays right into the A team saying that if she's not brought home it will be all our fault for not helping them find her. so, my question is....with all the lies and with the discovery of evidence of decomp, why would they absolutely need the body to charge her????

[bchand]

I have tried to find the video of NG interviewing Melinda for a long time. I have never been able to find it. I think I recall seeing some clips but I never got to see the whole thing.

Transcript is available:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/08/ng.01.html

[msgatorslayer]

I'm pretty sure he was back in CA. NG said that she had been asking him questions for week and why was he telling her this now. It will take a little work to find out the first time he said it. Promise I'll look tomorrow. I'm worn out from a long afternoon of 5th grade homework LOL!!

If he really is close to LE and the case, he woulda, shoulda, stopped by their office and told them what Casey had said. Instead of going home and then telling all to a national audience.

No need to look anything up on my account. Lenny hasn't interested me enough to really care about what he says, lol.

Him already being in Cali prior to telling NG about Zanny, Sam, and script, would be a good reason for OCSO to fly out and talk to him. They were probably watching NG the night he said that and were :shrug:. That's a new one, to us.

[need2no]

since you brought that up...on Melinda Duckett's stuff, didn't she do herself in before the show went on and they aired it anyway? do I have that right? I can't remember for sure.

Yes, the show aired after her suicide.

[deep*fear]

Dont get cocky- remember phil spector#1, MOST of us thought
he would be found guilty.

What is Baezs secret weaepon?

I doubt Baez will defend her in the murder trial. I don't think he has the experience. If his wife has been watching the touchy feely garbage, I imagine she will be giving him an ultimatum

[Takotna]

Lake Jessup.

Is that the lake where those pictures posted last night were taken?
If so, I agree with you:)

AllMO

[Pebbles]

Why in the world didn't LE ask her why she needed a babysitter when she didn't have a job? I honestly think they made a mistake in arresting her so soon. I think they have done the best they can, but they could have gotten so much more information if she hadn't been arrested and had had a chance to sit back and think about questions they needed to have answered, they may have gotten closer to the truth.


I totally agree. The LE is at a disadvantage, Casey had a 30 days head start. Maybe LE thought if they arrested Casey they would scare her into telling them what happened to Caylee.

[dixie77]

I doubt Baez will defend her in the murder trial. I don't think he has the experience. If his wife has been watching the touchy feely garbage, I imagine she will be giving him an ultimatum
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I look at that this way.......if his wife has to worry about him with a POI in her child's murder, then he's not worth it. JMO

[dixie77]

someone help me here, please. LE is going to Ca. to talk to the Marine. Right? And whats his name again? thanks

[impartial]

Why in the world didn't LE ask her why she needed a babysitter when she didn't have a job? I honestly think they made a mistake in arresting her so soon. I think they have done the best they can, but they could have gotten so much more information if she hadn't been arrested and had had a chance to sit back and think about questions they needed to have answered, they may have gotten closer to the truth.


They hardly let her talk ... when she would start to talk, they stopped her.


I think they totally jumped the gun ... much to the chagrin of the State Attorney's office.

IMO

[msgatorslayer]

since you brought that up...on Melinda Duckett's stuff, didn't she do herself in before the show went on and they aired it anyway? do I have that right? I can't remember for sure.

Yup! The St. Pete Times had written an article about how Mark Lundford got the NG interview for the Duckett family. It was to be recorded on a Weds. Played on Thursday night. But something 'breaking' happened in the Skakel case and NG's Thursday show was about that.

Melinda Duckett killed herself in the late afternoon hours on Friday.

On Friday night, NG's LIVE show, had Melinda's interview, with a ticker at the bottom of the screen saying Melinda was dead.

[Pebbles]

I chatted with a number of total strangers yesterday while passing the idle hours at jury duty and I asked all of them if they were following the Caylee Anthony case from Orlando. Not one was, and most had only a faint idea of what this case is about. I thought that was interesting.



Sandy I live in the Orlando area and there are actually people here that I know that are also not following the story, even with it being on our news constantly. I may ask someone what they think about the case and they will say "I have no idea, I am not interested". :shrug:

[concernedmom]

They hardly let her talk ... when she would start to talk, they stopped her.


I think they totally jumped the gun ... much to the chagrin of the State Attorney's office.

IMO

I think they should have listened to her lies, make her think they believed her and followed her around for awhile. But when you have a car that smells like a dead body can you hold the car if no arrest has been made?

I can also see why they arrested her because of Melinda duckett so I guess either way they went it was a no win for them.

[margaret kep]

I still think in J B Park.
along the trail somehwere, but hidden further back.



imo/jmo

I still think Tampa or Jacksonville, because those two places were mentioned that Casey was driving there for a job interview and she was taking a "mini" vacation with Caylee.

[aubrey04]

i have a question. probably stupid, but seeing if someone could help me understand. all of the experts say that if a body was found now, after decomposing in gosh knows what kind of conditions, that it would be hard if not impossible to target cause of death. seems to me like, hard if not impossible to link it to KC which plays right into the A team saying that if she's not brought home it will be all our fault for not helping them find her. so, my question is....with all the lies and with the discovery of evidence of decomp, why would they absolutely need the body to charge her????

They don't need a body to charge case with murder. They just need to prove that a murder took place and that Casey was responsible but it would be much easier to do with a body. Also, if a body is found -- the crime scene area might still have evidence that could link Casey.

There have been many convictions for "no body" murders. Hans Reiser comes to mind.

[Boxer]

someone help me here, please. LE is going to Ca. to talk to the Marine. Right? And whats his name again? thanks



Marine is Mark Hawkins, 29 Palms CA. I do not know with 100% certainty what LE will do there. So far, Padilla and Rob Dick are I think expecting interviews.

[msgatorslayer]

I have tried to find the video of NG interviewing Melinda for a long time. I have never been able to find it. I think I recall seeing some clips but I never got to see the whole thing.

You won't find it. The Melinda Duckett suicide/NG interview is what put the case into the spotlight. At the time, nobody was taping and posting the case to youtube.

[impartial]

I think they should have listened to her lies, make her think they believed her and followed her around for awhile. But when you have a car that smells like a dead body can you hold the car if no arrest has been made?


Yes ... they do search and seizures before arrests.

Scott wasn't arrested until Laci's body floated ashore, several months later.

IMO

[desmom]

Seriously?


:seeya: impartial

Question, if you don't mind.

Yesterday in Jose Baez's meeting with the media, he said he contacted the Body Farm and was told the tests were not complete.

Is it normal for a defense attorney to contact a lab and inquire about LE's evidence before his client is charged? TIA

[dixie77]

Marine is Mark Hawkins, 29 Palms CA. I do not know with 100% certainty what LE will do there. So far, Padilla and Rob Dick are I think expecting interviews.
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Thanks, Boxer I thought i had read last nite about LE wanting to talk to the Marine.

[deep*fear]

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I look at that this way.......if his wife has to worry about him with a POI in her child's murder, then he's not worth it. JMO

True, but if any of their children are still in High School they are likely getting a lot of flak.

[ellegna]

I have tried to find the video of NG interviewing Melinda for a long time. I have never been able to find it. I think I recall seeing some clips but I never got to see the whole thing.

You Tube had the clips but I believe they were pulled because of the law suit. Melinda's family sued NG for wrongful death

[Boxer]

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Thanks, Boxer I thought i had read last nite about LE wanting to talk to the Marine.


so if Casey tries to say it was Mark McCain, you'll keep in mind that The Rifleman has been off the air for years, right?

[KOOL LOOK]

:seeya:Howdy! Hang up your cowboy hat, pull up a hammer and stay awhile! The circus has already begun.

Thank you so much, you too KaKax, it's my bed time but I'll be on tomorrow, promise. I can't wait, I would stay now, but my eyes feel heavy, gonna crawl in the bed and watch Nancy's re-run since I missed the first one. Later Cowboys and gals.

[Pebbles]

Cindy reported she lost 29 pounds...she had no report on Caylee's weight loss

Good one Boxer.

If my granddaughter was missing, I wouldn't care about how much weight I lost, that definitely would not be very important to me!

[impartial]

:seeya: impartial

Question, if you don't mind.

Yesterday in Jose Baez's meeting with the media, he said he contacted the Body Farm and was told the tests were not complete.

Is it normal for a defense attorney to contact a lab and inquire about LE's evidence before his client is charged? TIA


He can call anyone he wants to, unless they are represented by counsel.

Sometimes if the sample is small, and there isn't enough for the prosecution and the defense to do separate testing, then the court will order that the defense be present and participate in the testing.

IMO

[poplife]

:( http://leonardpadillaformayor.com/latestnews.html Here ya go C Dots


Thanks. I'm so dense, I have no idea where to look on that site. looks like a bunch of self glamorizing propaganda for his mayor run. :shrug:

[dtviewer]

He can call anyone he wants to, unless they are represented by counsel.

Sometimes if the sample is small, and there isn't enough for the prosecution and the defense to do separate testing, then the court will order that the defense be present and participate in the testing.

IMO

But also the body farm is under no obligation to tell him anything.

And I would bet they actually didnt tell him anything, no matter what he is spewing to the media.

[desmom]

He can call anyone he wants to, unless they are represented by counsel.

Sometimes if the sample is small, and there isn't enough for the prosecution and the defense to do separate testing, then the court will order that the defense be present and participate in the testing.

IMO

But also the body farm is under no obligation to tell him anything.

And I would bet they actually didnt tell him anything, no matter what he is spewing to the media.


Thanks to both of you!

[dixie77]

True, but if any of their children are still in High School they are likely getting a lot of flak.
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True and that wouldnt be fair. But JB should realize how his actions with "his girl" is looking on tv. I think he is reading this board.....yesterday he was saying that people r wanting to know about Casey being in his office so much. lol Yep he is reading here. JMO

[rosejustrose]

Ack! I am stuck on the Zimbio site reading about St John, which I liken padilla to. http://www.zimbio.com/Leonard+Padilla How ya doing tonight rose? Hope you are well. This is the strangest case, it never fails to amaze me how people try to follow a missing person case, yet are so ignorant or naiveté about family dynamics? Or so ignorant about Abuse. Even last night when one Expert started to say that maybe just maybe something HORRIBLE happened to Casey in her life and she switched off; I say Yeah, I'll bet. But, sadly even NG was doing her Whoa Whoa Whoa routine, and shut that right down. Sadly, only someone who was very abused could be this shut down. Casey will be a longtime case study most likely, like Andrea Yates. I really really doubt that her mental health record is a clean slate. Hers or her mothers. Her fathers, I believe is violent. Have seen the type in practice all too often. Needs a uniform to feel important or powerful. Abuses women, cheats and is unfaithful in long term relationships. Carries a weapon and feels that he is above the law. Prior Law Enforcement. Possible bad cop. Need that record still. violent when confronted. A walking time bomb. This is the profile of Caylee Marie Anthony's other caregiver. Now for some of you that have a problem with these "facts" I suggest you go online and read up on this case, the people in it, and Psych 101. It's called domestic violence, family violence no matter how you label this type of family it's never pretty. This was Caylee's life. Lots of yelling, lots of fighting lots of arguments, lots of loudness and lots of pain. No Boundaries, her mother didnt even raise her. This was Caylee M Anthony's life. This was what Casey said she had to get Caylee Out Of. That may be the only thing she's told the truth about. Just really absurd, at times I wonder why some follow cases like this. It's like some posters you could lead them over a waterfall, and tell them to jump if I do and they will. Cant think for themselves. Until we find out who this childs father was, and what happened to her some of us will never rest. I know your one of those people. So am I. Dots

Hey! How are you, I'm ok. This case certainly does grip you by the heart and not let go. IMO, there are a lot of issues with the Anthony family then if brought out would shed a lot of light on why Casey is like she is and why the family is circling the wagons around her. What I do find particularly disturbing about this family is how isolated they are from other family members and friends. It doesn't appear as thought they have nutured relationships that would have caused the people who cared about them to come out and offer support. In cases like this you see other relatives come out and say so and so is a good person, you got it all wrong. In this case, Cindy's brother posts what rotten miserable people they are. Who knows. I don't think we'll ever find out who Caylee's father is/was. And I don't think we'll ever find out what happened to her to turn her into this cold blooded witch. IMO, the family does know what is wrong and somehow feel responsible for her actions and that's why they are protecting her. What I want to know is what happened to those little blue crocs??????

[Pebbles]

I follow your great posts!


I'm off to bed. I always pray that Caylee will be found and justice will be served!:rose:

[impartial]

But also the body farm is under no obligation to tell him anything.
And I would bet they actually didnt tell him anything, no matter what he is spewing to the media.


True dat.

IMO

[Boxer]

True dat.

IMO

In your opinion, has Baez crossed the ethics line?

[need2no]

I just saw a few women (on the webcam) walking on the sidewalk...then they quickly were out of view of the camera. Did I miss something with regard to the LiveCam...why the strange angle, lights off, then on...no view of protesters....what's up?

ETA: guy with sign is back.....

[Shellberry]

so they say, anyway. supposedly a producer ther etoday, I believe
they refused to speak to him in the beginning right?
he can be downright ...divulging at times.
Dont get cocky- remember phil spector#1, MOST of us thought
he would be found guilty.

What is Baezs secret weaepon?
I have a feeling baez is going to run for some kind of 'official' office position in the future...

:rose: Newbie here. Wanted to say "Hello", I've enjoyed reading the great posts. Forum site well maintained and interesting. I've been following this case since the beginning also at another forum too and hope to participate here also.

Take care and I'll be back to discuss some tomorrow.

I believe Casey has taken Caylee's life. I believe the family is covering up and maybe so far as and earlier than the first initial phone call to LE from Cindy. I think the coverup began after Cindy hunted down Casey at the friends apartment, forced her to leave with her, hence coverup then phone call to LE.

IMO, Casey has several mental issues along with Cindy being the raising parent that has created these personality problems within Casey as we have learned and gotten to see Cindy's very own actions and words.

Talk later, peace and good night, friends.
welcome

I like your thinking!

Well now...I would like for someone to ask George while he is under oath in a Grand Jury hearing just what they were cooking on the program that day....that would be very telling.
I believe he was watching at 1pm or 1:30- rachel ray and I think that blonde lady everyone likes comes on down here from 1-2pm

I did. It was so like this case. Sometimes, I think it was Casey's script...


thanks, Impartial. I thought I had it right, but was unsure.

Yes, the show aired after her suicide.
I was reading up on her case a couple weeks ago-maybe last week, I saw the interview in the park.
and the pics of the toys and pics and things she threw away in the dumpster-also the handwritten suicide notes.
interesting-she left a letter for everyone but trenton.
yet she still spoke as if he were alive.

Im glad I wasnt here to follow that case, I'd be totally crazy by now.

I totally agree. The LE is at a disadvantage, Casey had a 30 days head start. Maybe LE thought if they arrested Casey they would scare her into telling them what happened to Caylee.
maybe they were thinking back to melinda-and arrested her before she could do anything to herself. :shrug:
Sandy I live in the Orlando area and there are actually people here that I know that are also not following the story, even with it being on our news constantly. I may ask someone what they think about the case and they will say "I have no idea, I am not interested". :shrug:
I was on the phone with my mom last night-the only thing they heard up there was the AP report from the beginning, they have no clue--even here in tampa area, there isnt too much on the case.
I still think Tampa or Jacksonville, because those two places were mentioned that Casey was driving there for a job interview and she was taking a "mini" vacation with Caylee.
funny-I hear tampa in the beginning too-that is what got me to read this forum. I thought it was happening close by to me.
then it wasnt mentioned again.
I really wouldnt be shocked if they are directing all the attention from south of orlando to GA, NC, VA--because this is where she actually may have come.
it wouldnt even have taken her half a day
everyone is searching orlando area and north of orlando--nothing south of orlando.




imo/jmo/etc

[Heyes]

Thanks Pebbles, YES! As soon as I read a few of peeps posts, a bell went off in my head! Ding Ding Ding, yes he got air time, maybe he is one of the body guards kids or something along those lines. not sure. Hey, as long as they keep their own story in the news, well, geez I do believe they are after that cold hard cash, 1Million dollars for their story, photos, videos, interviews, limo rides (sure cindy misses those) and then eventually, law suits for what anyone dares to write about what they've done on film :lol: Sad, very sad. Caylee had to have been lost a long time ago; In Life Dots


What do ya wanna bet that Cindy is scouting homes in the L.A. area as we type.

Hollywood!

[morson]

[QUOTE=Susaanh;12137921]IMO, George will 'crack' at the top of his lungs while grabbing the shirt of some reporter or protester.

I want to say "abso......", but am going to restrain myself. I agree. Several weeks ago, I posted that I thought G was the weak link in liardom. He was very quiet in the beginning, but when he did start talking, his lies were noticeable by the amount of detail. Ex. What Casey and Caylee were wearing when they "left" on June 16 and his conversation with Casey on June 24 when she supposedly showed up at the house. Now with his repeated angry outbursts at both media and protesters, it appears that some dribs and drabs of truth will spill out. The most telling one, of course, (paraphrased) the body in my daughter's car was not my granddaughter.

While this will sound cruel to some of you---I hope that the courts allow the protesters to hang out at the Anthony's for another week. I think that there is a good chance, G might just let some more goodies drop from his lips. He is getting angrier and more frustrated that the rest of the world is not believing him, by the day.

As for LP and his theory of the day, I think that he likes to "stir the pot". Everytime that he has a "new" theory, G & C have to some up with counterstatements that are more inane and angry than their previous ones. Maybe he feels a little guilty for being taken in and bailing Casey out the first time, and is hoping to cause someone to blurt out something incriminating.

Don't know--JMHO

[desmom]

I just saw a few women (on the webcam) walking on the sidewalk...then they quickly were out of view of the camera. Did I miss something with regard to the LiveCam...why the strange angle, lights off, then on...no view of protesters....what's up?

ETA: guy with sign is back.....


The lights - I think the media are doing their late night news updates.

[kakax]

Transcript is available:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/08/ng.01.html



TY....wow. Lots of similarities. What I found interesting was Lundsford and Klaas were on and seemed to be so supportive. Certainly hasn't been the case in this case.

[shelbar53]

Here is an interesting site that lists all the people involved. bookmark and keep it handy as a reference.

http://www.angelsforstacy.hqforums.com/whos-who-in-the-caylee-anthony-case-vt172.html

[concernedmom]

Things I would like to know that came out tonight on NG.

What hotel was LP talking about?
He said Casey had friends in SG apts. Who are these people?

[kakax]

I liked Annes book, at least she was normal. After she met her "birth bio mother" (scotts mother) her good gut instinct is what she stuck with in the end. In the end, a lot about Scott for me was revealed in her book, it was a window into the black soul that created Scott Peterson. And, of course she did the normal right thing. She certainly didnt back him or his "mother" even though she had just found her birth mom, was this very dark heart, Mrs Peterson. How sad, that she kept the golden boy and threw her child away. This family does have things in common with the Anthony's and visa via. My 2c :seeya:



I agree and I like Anne's book too. She showed amazing courage in standing up for the truth.

[cablewife]

I know nothing about law...
but couldn't LE get a search warrant for the "script" and make her prove there was one (which we all know there wasn't) and call her bluff?
Or is JB saving that for his/her defense??

[rosejustrose]

But also the body farm is under no obligation to tell him anything.

And I would bet they actually didnt tell him anything, no matter what he is spewing to the media.

Really, how could they even be sure who they were talking to? I could call them and say I work for Baez, blah, blah, blah. I doubt they give that type of information out over the phone, JMO.

[dixie77]

so if Casey tries to say it was Mark McCain, you'll keep in mind that The Rifleman has been off the air for years, right?========
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Where did that come from? lol

[kakax]

I totally agree. The LE is at a disadvantage, Casey had a 30 days head start. Maybe LE thought if they arrested Casey they would scare her into telling them what happened to Caylee.



I don't fault them. They had their reasons. I just wish there had been time to think of the questions that we have all thought of. We have had time to go over this case with a fine tooth comb...they didn't have that luxury. They were going on what they had.

Just wish they had been able to follow her, tap her phone calls, etc. But these are the cards as they have been dealt. I pray she will face judgement by a jury one day on the death of her daughter.

[st777jo]

its almost the witching hour

HAMMER TIME

[impartial]

In your opinion, has Baez crossed the ethics line?


Nothing that I am aware of.

I'm not so sure about LE though with the re-arrests based on the same theft. Casey stole Amy's checkbook, the prior arrests were for checks drawn on that account, and the most recent arrest was for one check drawn on the same account.

They were aware of the theft when they interviewed Amy in July, and she at that time indicated she wanted to press charges. They waited until she was bailed out the first time to file those charges, even though they had the information while she was in jail and prior to the filing of charges for neglect.

I could care less about Casey, but I am concerned about the way in which this has been handled by LE.

The most concerning thing I have seen is the publication of the e-mail regarding the immunity offer. Offers of immunity or plea bargains are not admissible at trial, unless a deal has been made, then the terms of the deal are put on the record.

Soft pillows, please.

IMO

[Heyes]

OMG protester with RIP sigh joined the regular guy.

[bchand]

I know nothing about law...
but couldn't LE get a search warrant for the "script" and make her prove there was one (which we all know there wasn't) and call her bluff?
Or is JB saving that for his/her defense??


Now you know it probably "self-destructed" about 90 seconds after she read it.

[cloe23]

I totally agree. The LE is at a disadvantage, Casey had a 30 days head start. Maybe LE thought if they arrested Casey they would scare her into telling them what happened to Caylee.


As well as LE can not scare the daughter of LE. Keep in mind she very will may of began her dishonesty since she could walk, talk, potty her pants and not clean her room. Let alone steal, bang Dad's coworkers, get pregnant....... She will change her story IMO but never confess
JMO. She is what 23yrs old? This is 23yrs of being interrogated, IMO
This gal is a very severe case of abnormal psych. JMO

[kakax]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/17/earlyshow/main681184.shtml In case anyone missed it; going on behavior here, not OT exactly as Im really convinced Casey is of the same blood. Or whatever it is that runs in her veins, and her parents veins. Dots :rose: for Laci Conner Maddy and Caylee.

I totally supported Scott's half sister. I was talking about his SIL....just wanted to clarify that.

[cablewife]

Now you know it probably "self-destructed" about 90 seconds after she read it.



:lol::lol:

For me.....:punch:

[need2no]

they refused to speak to him in the beginning right?
he can be downright ...divulging at times.

I have a feeling baez is going to run for some kind of 'official' office position in the future...


welcome


I believe he was watching at 1pm or 1:30- rachel ray and I think that blonde lady everyone likes comes on down here from 1-2pm




I was reading up on her case a couple weeks ago-maybe last week, I saw the interview in the park.
and the pics of the toys and pics and things she threw away in the dumpster-also the handwritten suicide notes.
interesting-she left a letter for everyone but trenton.
yet she still spoke as if he were alive.

Im glad I wasnt here to follow that case, I'd be totally crazy by now.


maybe they were thinking back to melinda-and arrested her before she could do anything to herself. :shrug:

I was on the phone with my mom last night-the only thing they heard up there was the AP report from the beginning, they have no clue--even here in tampa area, there isnt too much on the case.

funny-I hear tampa in the beginning too-that is what got me to read this forum. I thought it was happening close by to me.
then it wasnt mentioned again.
I really wouldnt be shocked if they are directing all the attention from south of orlando to GA, NC, VA--because this is where she actually may have come.
it wouldnt even have taken her half a day
everyone is searching orlando area and north of orlando--nothing south of orlando.




imo/jmo/etc


Shell...the point about the cooking show was if George could recall what Casey and Caylee were wearing on the 16th, it would be interesting to know if he could also recall what they were cooking on the show that day. I betcha my DH would recall...the food....not a chance in h*ll he would recall the clothes. :D

I took a long much needed break from the board after following Trenton's case daily...it really affected me in a bad way. I told myself I would never ever follow another missing child case.....at this point I know I should have keep my word to myself!

[dixie77]

I know nothing about law...
but couldn't LE get a search warrant for the "script" and make her prove there was one (which we all know there wasn't) and call her bluff?
Or is JB saving that for his/her defense??
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Just like if LE would have asked her how she pays the nanny for her babysitting services. No doubt she would have said by "cash". So how many people would actually pay for child care using cash? She THINKS she has every angle covered. But just wait. JMO

[farrahrani]

I know nothing about law...
but couldn't LE get a search warrant for the "script" and make her prove there was one (which we all know there wasn't) and call her bluff?
Or is JB saving that for his/her defense??


I still believe ''script'' was a figure of speech, and not an actual physical script. A set of verbal instructions and timeline given for her to follow. She used words like ''script'' and ''neutral'' according to another poster. She was also a fan of crime shows, I think it was CSI someone mentioned, so maybe those words are either branded into her subconscious, or she thought they made her alibis sound more ''official'' :(

[kakax]

Nothing that I am aware of.

I'm not so sure about LE though with the re-arrests based on the same theft. Casey stole Amy's checkbook, the prior arrests were for checks drawn on that account, and the most recent arrest was for one check drawn on the same account.

They were aware of the theft when they interviewed Amy in July, and she at that time indicated she wanted to press charges. They waited until she was bailed out the first time to file those charges, even though they had the information while she was in jail and prior to the filing of charges for neglect.

I could care less about Casey, but I am concerned about the way in which this has been handled by LE.




Soft pillows, please.

IMO


When I read the arresting documents of these check charges, it states that LE didn't even go to see someone at the bank until September 5th or 9th I believe. I think they were just waiting on confirmation of stories and videos and the like.

I would like to say that I have read your posts and they have been very thought provoking. I too agree that there is somewhat of a deadline for LE to charge Casey with more serious charges before the neglect trial. I don't think they would want to in any way have the neglect trial mess up the chances for a heavier charge.



ETA: I just went to look at the documents....they didn't obtain a forgery affidavit until 9/12.

9/5 they went and talked to the teller at Bank of America.

[rosejustrose]

Thanks for another very interesting day of posting! Nite all:seeya:

Prayers and peace for Caylee:rose:

[impartial]

I still believe ''script'' was a figure of speech, and not an actual physical script. A set of verbal instructions and timeline given for her to follow. She used words like ''script'' and ''neutral'' according to another poster. She was also a fan of crime shows, I think it was CSI someone mentioned, so maybe those words are either branded into her subconscious, or she thought they made her alibis sound more ''official'' :(

Her use of "neutral" when she described going to Tony's house from Sawgrass was very strange.

IMO

[shelbar53]

Shell...the point about the cooking show was if George could recall what Casey and Caylee were wearing on the 16th, it would be interesting to know if he could also recall what they were cooking on the show that day. I betcha my DH would recall...the food....not a chance in h*ll he would recall the clothes. :D

I took a long much needed break from the board after following Trenton's case daily...it really affected me in a bad way. I told myself I would never ever follow another missing child case.....at this point I know I should have keep my word to myself!

someone should ask him what she was wearing 3 days ago, I bet he would not know.
in case you might the link I posted before....all people involved

http://www.angelsforstacy.hqforums.com/whos-who-in-the-caylee-anthony-case-vt172.html

[need2no]

its almost the witching hour

HAMMER TIME


Maybe someone will show up with a boom box playing this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Iyn5JAKZQ

[Boxer]

Nothing that I am aware of.

I'm not so sure about LE though with the re-arrests based on the same theft. Casey stole Amy's checkbook, the prior arrests were for checks drawn on that account, and the most recent arrest was for one check drawn on the same account.

They were aware of the theft when they interviewed Amy in July, and she at that time indicated she wanted to press charges. They waited until she was bailed out the first time to file those charges, even though they had the information while she was in jail and prior to the filing of charges for neglect.

I could care less about Casey, but I am concerned about the way in which this has been handled by LE.

The most concerning thing I have seen is the publication of the e-mail regarding the immunity offer. Offers of immunity or plea bargains are not admissible at trial, unless a deal has been made, then the terms of the deal are put on the record.

Soft pillows, please.

IMO


okay. I'd rather have the news straight. I didn't wonder so much about the checks. I thought individual merchants were filing charges..I did wonder about the email though.

no pillows, just exasperated sighs

[Boxer]

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Where did that come from? lol

all of her other friends are movie stars, lololol:D

[dixie77]

all of her other friends are movie stars, lololol:D
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lol

[Boxer]

Shell...the point about the cooking show was if George could recall what Casey and Caylee were wearing on the 16th, it would be interesting to know if he could also recall what they were cooking on the show that day. I betcha my DH would recall...the food....not a chance in h*ll he would recall the clothes. :D

I took a long much needed break from the board after following Trenton's case daily...it really affected me in a bad way. I told myself I would never ever follow another missing child case.....at this point I know I should have keep my word to myself!



I swore I would never be on another kid board. Not after Trenton. Caylee tugs my heart

[bcrmom]

If I were her I'd run as fast and as far away from the Anthonys as I could:chicken: I'm skeered of crazy people:chicken:


But you're here with US? How skeered could you BE? :tongue:

[kakax]

But you're here with US? How skeered could you BE? :tongue:

:biggrin: LOL!!

[Rebel Rouzer]

I bet their answer would be "None of your business".

Your POSTS are a piece of work. I can tell ya that.

[impartial]

When I read the arresting documents of these check charges, it states that LE didn't even go to see someone at the bank until September 5th or 9th I believe. I think they were just waiting on confirmation of stories and videos and the like.

I would like to say that I have read your posts and they have been very thought provoking. I too agree that there is somewhat of a deadline for LE to charge Casey with more serious charges before the neglect trial. I don't think they would want to in any way have the neglect trial mess up the chances for a heavier charge.

Honestly, I don't think LE gave a rats behind about the economic charges until Casey was bailed out of jail ... they believed the bail was set high enough to keep her in there.

And that's what bothers me about their actions. They are trying to keep her behind bars while they mount a case against her ... that's not the way it's supposed to go. Either they have the goods, and if they don't, they have to be patient until they do, without violating the POI's rights ... otherwise they risk having everything thrown out on technicalities.

IMO

[st777jo]

all of her other friends are movie stars, lololol:D

The invisible friends?

[aubrey04]

As well as LE can not scare the daughter of LE. Keep in mind she very will may of began her dishonesty since she could walk, talk, potty her pants and not clean her room. Let alone steal, bang Dad's coworkers, get pregnant....... She will change her story IMO but never confess
JMO. She is what 23yrs old? This is 23yrs of being interrogated, IMO
This gal is a very severe case of abnormal psych. JMO

Hey Cloe dear,

:seeya:

I haven't seen you since Entwistle. yeah, I don't think Casey is intimidated by LE at all.. She sure as heck didn't act like it bothered her one bit in that tape recorded police interview. But I must ask you-- which co-worker of her dads did Casey sleep with? lol

[steffaroob4]

The words neutral place seem to come up a lot in online dating, I wonder how many guys she met online.

[Boxer]

The invisible friends?

yes, see pic below






































:D

[kakax]

Honestly, I don't think LE gave a rats behind about the economic charges until Casey was bailed out of jail ... they believed the bail was set high enough to keep her in there.

And that's what bothers me about their actions. They are trying to keep her behind bars while they mount a case against her ... that's not the way it's supposed to go. Either they have the goods, and if they don't, they have to be patient until they do, without violating the POI's rights ... otherwise they risk having everything thrown out on technicalities.

IMO



Maybe they cared, maybe they didn't....IMO it doesn't really matter....these charges aren't brought without evidence to back them up. The timing about them isn't an issue, IMo. They do have an excuse for waiting...they have been working on the missing child case. I just don't see this as a big deal. MOO.

[Boxer]

Honestly, I don't think LE gave a rats behind about the economic charges until Casey was bailed out of jail ... they believed the bail was set high enough to keep her in there.

And that's what bothers me about their actions. They are trying to keep her behind bars while they mount a case against her ... that's not the way it's supposed to go. Either they have the goods, and if they don't, they have to be patient until they do, without violating the POI's rights ... otherwise they risk having everything thrown out on technicalities.

IMO


the economic charges will probably be consolidated, no?

[bcrmom]

:biggrin: LOL!!

:seeya: Kakax

I couldn't resist. I got done with my w-o-r-k, which keeps interfering with my reading/posting and that's ticking me off. That's the first post I saw, waaaay back there and it cracked me up.

It don't git no crazier dan dis rat chere! ;)

[need2no]

I think their non answer would be 'get out of my face & off your *** & look for my granddaughter.'


Or...when Caylee comes home, you will go to h*ll.

[Shellberry]

fox news live talking about the anthonys
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live10pm11pm.html

[impartial]

the economic charges will probably be consolidated, no?


Yes. Unless there are different jurisdictions involved, which I don't believe there is thus far.

IMO

[kakax]

:seeya: Kakax

I couldn't resist. I got done with my w-o-r-k, which keeps interfering with my reading/posting and that's ticking me off. That's the first post I saw, waaaay back there and it cracked me up.

It don't git no crazier dan dis rat chere! ;)


I so agree!! We have to be a little nuts to follow these cases. Most of my friends think these cases are so depressing they won't even watch the news.

[st777jo]

Wow!!!!

thats a lotta invisible friends. some look familiar.

[bcrmom]

yes, see pic below






:D


WOW! You found the Group Portrait! What a great pic! Was that taken at Universal the day she lost her phone on her desk?

[need2no]

yes, see pic below






































:D



:no:



:lol:

[st777jo]

WOW! You found the Group Portrait! What a great pic! Was that taken at Universal the day she lost her phone on her desk?


You mean invisible phone on her invisible desk at her invisible job?

[impartial]

Maybe they cared, maybe they didn't....IMO it doesn't really matter....these charges aren't brought without evidence to back them up. The timing about them isn't an issue, IMo. They do have an excuse for waiting...they have been working on the missing child case. I just don't see this as a big deal. MOO.


It isn't a big deal, until the argument is made that it is impossible for Casey to have a fair trial based on the abuse of power garnered to produce a negative opinion of Casey by the possible jury pool.

That's why Baez is accusing LE of grandstanding. He is setting the stage for later.

IMO

[Boxer]

WOW! You found the Group Portrait! What a great pic! Was that taken at Universal the day she lost her phone on her desk?



I think this was the day they all got together to build that Habitat For Humanity house...

[st777jo]

Maybe Cindy just needed a reason to go shopping .. :D


She should of called ZFG

[Boxer]

It isn't a big deal, until the argument is made that it is impossible for Casey to have a fair trial based on the abuse of power garnered to produce a negative opinion of Casey by the possible jury pool.

That's why Baez is accusing LE of grandstanding. He is setting the stage for later.

IMO


I think he is too. I pray it bombs, but who knows.

[kakax]

It isn't a big deal, until the argument is made that it is impossible for Casey to have a fair trial based on the abuse of power garnered to produce a negative opinion of Casey by the possible jury pool.

That's why Baez is accusing LE of grandstanding. He is setting the stage for later.

IMO



It would be an abuse of power, IMO, if they didn't have the evidence to back the charges up. How is it an abuse of power to arrest someone on charges that they have evidence of? I'm sure Baez will say alot of things, I don't thing they will be bought. JMO.

Please excuse my prepositions at the end of the sentences...I'm too tired to be grammatically correct tonight LOL!!

[Boxer]

It would be an abuse of power, IMO, if they didn't have the evidence to back the charges up. How is it an abuse of power to arrest someone on charges that they have evidence of? I'm sure Baez will say alot of things, I don't thing they will be bought. JMO.

Please excuse my prepositions at the end of the sentences...I'm too tired to be grammatically correct tonight LOL!!


Number one rule of being a criminal...suddenly all the rights are yours.

[need2no]

Honestly, I don't think LE gave a rats behind about the economic charges until Casey was bailed out of jail ... they believed the bail was set high enough to keep her in there.

And that's what bothers me about their actions. They are trying to keep her behind bars while they mount a case against her ... that's not the way it's supposed to go. Either they have the goods, and if they don't, they have to be patient until they do, without violating the POI's rights ... otherwise they risk having everything thrown out on technicalities.

IMO


I heard it reported several times Amy FINALLY filed the proper paperwork to press charges. Of course we don't know if this is true or not, nor do we know if Amy hesitated and delayed making a decision regarding whether she definitely wanted to proceed with pressing charges. Remember her comment made during the interview...something like will anyone know what I've said.


Just saying.......

[impartial]

I think he is too. I pray it bombs, but who knows.


One never knows how the rulings will come out, or how a jury will respond to the evidence.

Gil Garcetti moved OJ's trial from Santa Monica to LA Central because he didn't want to drive to Santa Monica for the press conferences. That single decision lost the case for the State.


IMO

[poplife]

I have to share this to get it out of my head.

This afternoon I fell asleep while reading this board ( I know, how could I, right?) and had a HORRIBLE daymare.

I dreamt that a male friend attacked me physically and sexually, I had a split second to defend myself and killed him by hitting him in the head w/ something, too fuzzy to see what it was...

I left him in my trunk and got home and was going to tell my boyfriend but got too scared. The minutes turned into days and by the end of my daymare, it'd been 4 days and I was terrified to smell the smell, or deal w/ the gore. I wanted to dump his body somewhere and I couldn't think of where would be safe. The whole dream was killing me, I was under so much stress in it. It was one of those that you realize finally is a dream and I forced myself awake.

That was a dream, self defense, totally fake, and I was losing it, still shaken by it even though I'm awake. I can't imagine being able to deal w/ whatever Casey did, and I truly believe she did.

[Boxer]

There are just so many issues out there, that I really feel are the Anthony's private matters. Things like who cut Caylee's cord at birth, George's prior marriage, and work history, income.. etc. I don't even want to tell you how many times while reading the posts I've yelled at my poor computer. "its none of your business". But its a trip to watch so many people who feel all the details of the Anthony's lives from birth till the present are somehow the business of the world. But thats just me.
:seeya:


I disagree on the work records. I think it is pertinant to the case who was supporting and claiming Caylee Marie Anthony on their taxes and insurance. If it was Casey, fine. If it was the grandparents, then they are lying out their crazy behinds that they thought Casey had a job and a nanny.

[bcrmom]

Listening to Casey's interrogation tapes, over and over, I can't help but feel the cops talked way too much. They interrupted some of her lies..er..I mean "answers" but more importantly, with someone like Casey all that tough talk and going on and on just makes her more defiant. She might have said more than "uh huh" if they'd have not talked so much. That and all those non answers were her way of saying, "You've already made up your mind and you're going to believe what you want so why should I answer?"

Sometimes less is more, and with her penchant for non-stop yakking, I wonder what else they would have gotten from her if they'd have just let her do most the talking. Probably nothing but more lies, but they might have got a kernel of truth out of her.

Like when she is talking about Caylee not going crazy when she was talking to her on the phone after not seeing her mommy for weeks: Casey says something to the effect of if Caylee had been talking to Cindy, it would have been totally different. The cop is so heck-bent on continuing his speech that he totally missed that and didn't follow through. I think there could have been some missed insight there.

[st777jo]

There are just so many issues out there, that I really feel are the Anthony's private matters. Things like who cut Caylee's cord at birth, George's prior marriage, and work history, income.. etc. I don't even want to tell you how many times while reading the posts I've yelled at my poor computer. "its none of your business". But its a trip to watch so many people who feel all the details of the Anthony's lives from birth till the present are somehow the business of the world. But thats just me.
:seeya:


Just curious, but isn't that what your doing here, like the rest of us?

[EGirl]

Honestly, I don't think LE gave a rats behind about the economic charges until Casey was bailed out of jail ... they believed the bail was set high enough to keep her in there.

And that's what bothers me about their actions. They are trying to keep her behind bars while they mount a case against her ... that's not the way it's supposed to go. Either they have the goods, and if they don't, they have to be patient until they do, without violating the POI's rights ... otherwise they risk having everything thrown out on technicalities.

IMO

LE doesn't set bail and they don't decide which crimes are prosecuted.

What do you mean ' have the goods'? Casey is NOT in jail because she killed her daughter. She's in jail because she neglected her daughter, she's a liar and a thief.

How does arresting her on crimes they feel they can prove violate her rights?

[OneUp]

Dont get cocky- remember phil spector#1, MOST of us thought
he would be found guilty.

What is Baezs secret weaepon?:seeya:Hi Barefooted!
IMO, Baez has reasonable doubt on his side...for now. Unless LE has some piece of evidence in their vest pocket, there is still that little wiggle room to suggest that George or Cindy had access to the car before Casey was dragged home on the 15th, time the car was sitting in the parking lot ( unless the cameras covered the entire time), and WHO was Caylee last seen with. AFAIK, no one can place Caylee with anyone but Cindy after the 15th of June. If you believe him, George says he saw Casey and Caylee leave the next day, I don't find him believeable...I think it won't be hard to suggest he would lie or refuse to anser for his life. All they have to do is point fingers at one another. And, IMO, they know it.
Unless some bit of evidence, an eyewitness, something cuts the Gordian Knot, there is no way to PROVE who was the last to be with Caylee.
The constant distortion of facts supports this method of pointing to each other until there is now way to prove which one is guilty.
I know I'll regret saying this, but I have sen at least three tv shows/movies use this as part of the plot wherre a murderer got off. In one of them ( Law and Order I think?) the defendant and a parent tried this, and the parent did end up found guilty though the child had done it. I'm not certain how likely it is to work IRL, nor how often it might be done. It is a consideration though.
IMO, this explains why they are waiting to press charges, they need the remains, hopefully with some physical evidence placing Casey with Caylees body.
JMO.

[kakax]

I heard it reported several times Amy FINALLY filed the proper paperwork to press charges. Of course we don't know if this is true or not, nor do we know if Amy hesitated and delayed making a decision regarding whether she definitely wanted to proceed with pressing charges. Remember her comment made during the interview...something like will anyone know what I've said.


Just saying.......



Which is probably why LE couldn't verify everything until the 5th and the 12th. I don't see this as a big deal. COV is a given in this case, before these arrests even happened.

[impartial]

I heard it reported several times Amy FINALLY filed the proper paperwork to press charges. Of course we don't know if this is true or not, nor do we know if Amy hesitated and delayed making a decision regarding whether she definitely wanted to proceed with pressing charges. Remember her comment made during the interview...something like will anyone know what I've said.


Just saying.......


No one really needs to "press" charges, if you will. Any crime is a crime against the State, the State is the charging party. However, most crimes go unnoticed until they are reported by the victim. And if the state's case rests with the victim's testimony, they won't go forward unless the victim indicates they will testify.

In the first interview, the police report states that Amy wants to press charges.

:shrug:

IMO

[kakax]

Just curious, but isn't that what your doing here, like the rest of us?


And in case Adverse hasn't notice....we love details. I think that is what brings us to these boards. We can nitpick the details to death. We all are interested in the same things.

[concernedmom]

It cracks me up when I hear him ask for the phone numbers and how ALL of them have had their # changed 3-4 times. Im sure by the time he got to Juliet Lewis what her answer was going to be.I would have had a hard time not smiling or I would have :punch:her one.
:lol:

[bcrmom]

You mean invisible phone on her invisible desk at her invisible job?


Yes! That's the one! Didn't she buy that with her invisible pay check?

[kakax]

No one really needs to "press" charges, if you will. Any crime is a crime against the State, the State is the charging party. However, most crimes go unnoticed until they are reported by the victim. And if the state's case rests with the victim's testimony, they won't go forward unless the victim indicates they will testify.

In the first interview, the police report states that Amy wants to press charges.

:shrug:

IMO


Then should we be expecting charges relating to Casey stealing from her GPs?

[need2no]

Listening to Casey's interrogation tapes, over and over, I can't help but feel the cops talked way too much. They interrupted some of her lies..er..I mean "answers" but more importantly, with someone like Casey all that tough talk and going on and on just makes her more defiant. She might have said more than "uh huh" if they'd have not talked so much. That and all those non answers were her way of saying, "You've already made up your mind and you're going to believe what you want so why should I answer?"

Sometimes less is more, and with her penchant for non-stop yakking, I wonder what else they would have gotten from her if they'd have just let her do most the talking. Probably nothing but more lies, but they might have got a kernel of truth out of her.

Like when she is talking about Caylee not going crazy when she was talking to her on the phone after not seeing her mommy for weeks: Casey says something to the effect of if Caylee had been talking to Cindy, it would have been totally different. The cop is so heck-bent on continuing his speech that he totally missed that and didn't follow through. I think there could have been some missed insight there.


Well stated, and I agree with you.

I feel the same about Nancy Grace.....she misses a lot by constantly running her mouth....it's so annoying.

[Leanne Weich]

i hear this daily from physicans and patients and often times you have to go up on the dose because your body gets used to in your case .25. your right, to a child is would be like a horse tranqulizer. scares me to think that this could have happened too.

I was prescribed Xanax when my g/daughter died. Started off on 0.5mg and it was slowly increased to 2mg. I took the first 2mg tablet about 4 weeks after starting on the lower dosages and didn't have any recollection of events from about 15 minutes after taking it until I woke up the following day. My DD told me I sat up and spoke to them for hours. Admittedly, she did say I made no sense and talked like I was motherless drunk.

[barskin&co.]

Then should we be expecting charges relating to Casey stealing from her GPs?

I don't think so, since Cindy paid back the money, apparently.

[kakax]

Listening to Casey's interrogation tapes, over and over, I can't help but feel the cops talked way too much. They interrupted some of her lies..er..I mean "answers" but more importantly, with someone like Casey all that tough talk and going on and on just makes her more defiant. She might have said more than "uh huh" if they'd have not talked so much. That and all those non answers were her way of saying, "You've already made up your mind and you're going to believe what you want so why should I answer?"

Sometimes less is more, and with her penchant for non-stop yakking, I wonder what else they would have gotten from her if they'd have just let her do most the talking. Probably nothing but more lies, but they might have got a kernel of truth out of her.

Like when she is talking about Caylee not going crazy when she was talking to her on the phone after not seeing her mommy for weeks: Casey says something to the effect of if Caylee had been talking to Cindy, it would have been totally different. The cop is so heck-bent on continuing his speech that he totally missed that and didn't follow through. I think there could have been some missed insight there.



I agree with you. They should have used "silence" as their weapon. Akward silences have a way of making people talk.

[st777jo]

Yes! That's the one! Didn't she buy that with her invisible pay check?

If not with the invisible pay check, then someone else's money, checks or CC.

[impartial]

Then should we be expecting charges relating to Casey stealing from her GPs?


If the GP's are willing to testify, they could. I don't know if they would put the GP's through that, though ... too stressful ... and they have enough other charges.

IMO

[bcrmom]

Then should we be expecting charges relating to Casey stealing from her GPs?


I've been wondering that for a while. IF they have proof, IE records, etc., then the State should/could prosecute w/o any of the Anthony's pressing charges. Couldn't they?

I've seen plenty of cases where the State prosecutes even though the victim didn't want to. It all depends on the DA and the evidence.

[EGirl]

Then should we be expecting charges relating to Casey stealing from her GPs?

No, because there is probably no witness that will testify. It doesn't mean that what she did wasn't illegal, but in the eyes of the prosecutor it's not prosecutable because the victim won't testify.



IMO