Wednesday AM, 9/17

[Lorna]

Well said. Some just like to jump on the bandwagon and pretend they know the truth when common sense tells us otherwise. If you knew the truth you sure as heck wouldn't be sitting around wasting time by posting on a message board crying about the rights of a potentional killer and dare to tell us Casey didn't lie..etc. Anyone, but the murderer (fill in the name of those convicted) is the theme always.

imo

BINGO! It's always shrouded in the "constitutional rights" or devil's advocate b.s. ;)

Every single time.

[Joan Weiss]

Since when does the right to protest include the right to scream obscenitites at midnight? And, block the streets and driveways of the neighbors homes and ruin their grass with their trampling?That only happens when the Anthonys appear. I haven't seen any of my neighbors go out in their front yard at midnight. imo :shrug:

[k_can004]

OMG! Do you REALLY believe Casey's stories? Is your name Cindy?



ITA !!!
:rose: CAYLEE

[WillowInFlight]

Do you know this for a fact? That woman and her kids were not part of the protester group, they were drive by loonies. Cindy was right out there with them, IMO.

"drive by loonies":lol:

[msgatorslayer]

It has been 93 days. Why won't Casey talk? What about Caylee's rights?

:D She did talk. Nobody believes her, lol.

Zanny, bla, bla, bla, Sam, bla, bla, bla!!

[kitty1182]

That only happens when the Anthonys appear. I haven't seen any of my neighbors go out in their front yard at midnight. imo :shrug:

True..Cindy and her roll of tape could have waited till daylight, not in the middle of the night..

[True2Blues]

Yes, I know they were yelling. BUT, they were quite a distance away. It accelerated when Cindy started yelling back. Is that clear? Why doesn't Cindy stay silent? She knows what they're going to say. It's the same thing, over and over. imo

I'd like to know what she was doing outside hammering wooden stakes at midnight for. I guess the 'protesters' aren't the only ones who make noise when the neighbors are trying to sleep.

[Joan Weiss]

Well, Im convinced this is a violent family, one full of abuse and who knows the level of that abuse. Maybe the expert on NG last night was right, it's very possible that Casey was very abused, as a child. At this point, we have to look at this. The question will be; was it just Physical or was it worse and did it go much farther than that? I believe that the expert was right; something happened to Casey that made her switch off; unplug, in life and with people at some point. So what was that trigger what was that event? I'd say it was years of abuse, by this woman. Possibly her explosive father as well. Dots....................Yep, I agree, jenny. The Anthonys have no understanding or respect for children. imo

[kakax]

Hi everyone...

I don't know about you guys but I'm ready for some REAL news today....I'm getting so tired of all the other BS that is going on this case. I would like to hear that either Caylee has been found, or that Casey is going to be arrested for MURDER. Enough is enough.

I'm so tired of hearing about the protestors, the leaks, what Casey's wearing, etc. Let's not let Casey become a celebrity by watching every time she leaves the house, surrounded by bodyguards. I can't help but think that Casey loves the attention and I, for one, am tired of giving it to her.

Who's with me? Dorothy Boyd?? (Jerry Maguire quote, sorry) :D

jmo

I'm with you!

[GrandmaGA]

I don't understand how people can say that LE is lying about the forensic evidence. In this day and age when you can't even look at someone without them harrassing you or suing you, why would they lie only to be wide open for a law suit? I have no doubt that the Anthony's would waste no time suing LE, it is obvious they have no respect for them....

JMO


LE can lie all they wish to, it is legal and no one can sue them.

[crymeariver2006]

Wow you all have been busy this morning posting.

Have a question. Who here believes LE is going to publicly announce Caylee is in fact deceased before getting a warrant for Casey's arrest on that charge?

LE allowed the leak about the test results so others and the family could make their own minds up on what it means. IMO
Once LE announces that Caylee is dead they will have to answer the question who is responsible for her death. they will have to announce that Casey is a person of interest or a suspect in that death. They will have to answer questions whether it was murder or manslayghter etc. I do not believe LE is willing to come out and announce that Caylee is dead and name Casey as a suspect in her daughters death before they are ready to charge her for Caylee's death.
IMO It makes perfect sense as to why they are not publicly announcing Caylee is definitely deceased. They are very responsibly calculating their words and verbiage on this matter. UNTIL they are ready to arrest Casey for the death of her child and whether it will be manslaughter or murder. They may be able to prove Casey is responsible for her death at this time but they may not have all they need to prove it was murder one. They are waiting for the proper time and gathering all the evidence they need before decding on which to charge her with and proceed with a trial on that specific charge. My opinion the Anthony's know Caylee is deceased and they know Casey is responsible. I believe they are convinced by Casey it was an accident. Nobody wants to believe their child is a cold blooded killer. So they are going to the extrems to save Casey at all costs even if that means allowing Caylee to lay somewhre like trash and never get the dignity and justice she deserves.

I don't think they'll announce anything official until after the neglect trial. Neglect is when you don't report your child missing until you are literally forced to after 31 days and then at the time of trial, the child is still missing (add that you've never given any useful information as to her whereabouts.)

Then, I expect we'll see a grand jury indictment.

All JMO

[day2day]

If they're emailing them thru Ebay, the seller's not posting the questions nor the answers.

(Of course I'd be willing to bet that they don't live in California either, but I'm not about to attempt to purchase one to find out.)

Exactly. They have yet to answer my email or my bf's. (might be cause his name has something to do with LE) LOL
Pfft..ebay should pull this and make them return ANY money they have received.
imo

[WinnieLeigh7]

Wow you all have been busy this morning posting.

Have a question. Who here believes LE is going to publicly announce Caylee is in fact deceased before getting a warrant for Casey's arrest on that charge?

LE allowed the leak about the test results so others and the family could make their own minds up on what it means. IMO
Once LE announces that Caylee is dead they will have to answer the question who is responsible for her death. they will have to announce that Casey is a person of interest or a suspect in that death. They will have to answer questions whether it was murder or manslayghter etc. I do not believe LE is willing to come out and announce that Caylee is dead and name Casey as a suspect in her daughters death before they are ready to charge her for Caylee's death.
IMO It makes perfect sense as to why they are not publicly announcing Caylee is definitely deceased. They are very responsibly calculating their words and verbiage on this matter. UNTIL they are ready to arrest Casey for the death of her child and whether it will be manslaughter or murder. They may be able to prove Casey is responsible for her death at this time but they may not have all they need to prove it was murder one. They are waiting for the proper time and gathering all the evidence they need before decding on which to charge her with and proceed with a trial on that specific charge. My opinion the Anthony's know Caylee is deceased and they know Casey is responsible. I believe they are convinced by Casey it was an accident. Nobody wants to believe their child is a cold blooded killer. So they are going to the extrems to save Casey at all costs even if that means allowing Caylee to lay somewhre like trash and never get the dignity and justice she deserves.



I think it's going to occur simutaneously...

As Casey is getting arrested, with the media in her face asking "why this time", LE will state something along the lines of, the final testing has been received from the FBI lab confirming Caylee's death, we are now taking in Casey Anthony to be charged in her murder....please, no further questions.....


You'll have to wait for trial for your next chapter.

[trich]

True, true. My point is that some are saying Cindy being protective of Casey is a natural reaction, but I'm not so sure that it is. I think her beating Casey into a pulp would be a natural reaction. IMO



Exactly....

Nothing about this family is logical or normal ....
They certainly are dysfunctional to say the least.
I guess they just don't want to admit that they have failed raising Casey with a sense of responsibility and the idea that "doing the right thing" is what is important.
I think they do know the truth but just can not bring themselves to accept what is .
But keeping your mouth shut when protestors are around and taking the high road I guess never entered their minds .

[Regina.Lampert]

DCF Sends Fair Warning To Anthony Protesters

http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html


Thank you for actually providing a link. From the link:


The incident actually prompted an investigation by DCF and it warned Monday protesters could find themselves under investigation.

DCF said it believes it's a parents' primary responsibility to keep their kids safe and with fistfights and foul language sometimes surfacing here DCF said it's really not a place for children.

I am astonished at this, coming from DCF when in the past, if memory serves, it has taken an act of God to get this agency to act on genuine cases of child abuse. IMO.

[ruth66]

Wow you all have been busy this morning posting.

Have a question. Who here believes LE is going to publicly announce Caylee is in fact deceased before getting a warrant for Casey's arrest on that charge?

LE allowed the leak about the test results so others and the family could make their own minds up on what it means. IMO
Once LE announces that Caylee is dead they will have to answer the question who is responsible for her death. they will have to announce that Casey is a person of interest or a suspect in that death. They will have to answer questions whether it was murder or manslayghter etc. I do not believe LE is willing to come out and announce that Caylee is dead and name Casey as a suspect in her daughters death before they are ready to charge her for Caylee's death.
IMO It makes perfect sense as to why they are not publicly announcing Caylee is definitely deceased. They are very responsibly calculating their words and verbiage on this matter. UNTIL they are ready to arrest Casey for the death of her child and whether it will be manslaughter or murder. They may be able to prove Casey is responsible for her death at this time but they may not have all they need to prove it was murder one. They are waiting for the proper time and gathering all the evidence they need before decding on which to charge her with and proceed with a trial on that specific charge. My opinion the Anthony's know Caylee is deceased and they know Casey is responsible. I believe they are convinced by Casey it was an accident. Nobody wants to believe their child is a cold blooded killer. So they are going to the extrems to save Casey at all costs even if that means allowing Caylee to lay somewhre like trash and never get the dignity and justice she deserves.

ITA:beer:, couldn't have said it better

[OneUp]

That's another reason that I would like the father found. I imagine there are many MANY guys wondering if Caylee was his. He would be NOK and have the right to tm Caylee's name and sue the Anthony family for any $ they make off of Caylee's death.Yes, that is the one reason I think finding Caylee's dad is important now. Soomeone needs to put a stop to the marketing of her image to fund the defense of her murderer. My opinion on this, my livingroom isn't a court of law and I have all the proof I need...I've had it nearly two months now.
Money should be halted until either charges are brought, or at least the family suspect(s) cleared. Period. There may not already be a law that does so, but there darn well SHOULD be!
So many who are concerned with whether or not Ricardo or Kristina were paid...Guess what? They didn't sell out their own children for profit! Maybe they sold their story to an individual reporter not knowing where it would end up...maybe they knew it would end up tabloid news. I'd have no problem seeing them on Nancy G. or Greta as long as the investigation isn't compromised....who cares where the information ends up? Read it or discard it according to your judgement. Had I known this monster, I'd be talking...that is how others are forewarned about how easily these abominations hide amongst us.
Maybe the lies..."Mother of the Year"..."she is still a joy"...and so on are as nauseating to them as they are to most of us. I have had enough of the attempt at whitewashing, waste of effort IMO. I bet people who know the truth are a bit sick of it too!
JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

Hi everyone...

I don't know about you guys but I'm ready for some REAL news today....I'm getting so tired of all the other BS that is going on this case. I would like to hear that either Caylee has been found, or that Casey is going to be arrested for MURDER. Enough is enough.

I'm so tired of hearing about the protestors, the leaks, what Casey's wearing, etc. Let's not let Casey become a celebrity by watching every time she leaves the house, surrounded by bodyguards. I can't help but think that Casey loves the attention and I, for one, am tired of giving it to her.

Who's with me? Dorothy Boyd?? (Jerry Maguire quote, sorry) :D

jmoMeanwhile, Casey is stylin' and has the persona of a rock star. imo :rolleyes:

[msgatorslayer]

Hi everyone...

I don't know about you guys but I'm ready for some REAL news today....I'm getting so tired of all the other BS that is going on this case. I would like to hear that either Caylee has been found, or that Casey is going to be arrested for MURDER. Enough is enough.

I'm so tired of hearing about the protestors, the leaks, what Casey's wearing, etc. Let's not let Casey become a celebrity by watching every time she leaves the house, surrounded by bodyguards. I can't help but think that Casey loves the attention and I, for one, am tired of giving it to her.

Who's with me? Dorothy Boyd?? (Jerry Maguire quote, sorry) :D

jmo

:seeya: ITA

Enough is enough. Time to put up or shut up!!!!

[rosejustrose]

I'd like to know what she was doing outside hammering wooden stakes at midnight for. I guess the 'protesters' aren't the only ones who make noise when the neighbors are trying to sleep.


Oh, but Cindy hammer at midnight, and you can hear how loud it was, is ok because it is her property. The neighbors be damned!!! Cindy, Queen of the F Bomb, reigns supreme don't ya know. :rolleyes:

[crymeariver2006]

That's the thing for Cindy to be on the lookout for online...peeps who may be trying to profit off Caylee who are unauthorized to sell Find Caylee gear, not peeps who don't like Cindy, George, Lee and Casey and say so. imo

Unless, of course, Cindy is behind it.

;)

[toadii]

I have been trying to find out what all the calls for service were to the household; do they include non emergency or are they all 911 calls? It'd be a shame if they are all 911 calls, what a waste of a community resource if so.

This is the list prior to the burglarly call about the gas cans.

Anyhow, here is the list decoded.

11/1/03 criminal mischief, report taken

2/5/04 rescue, turned over to fire dept.

4/21/05 verbal disturbance, no report taken

4/30/05 general disturbance (loud party, disorderly person), no report taken

5/29/05 general disturbance, no report taken

6/26/06 stolen vehicle, report taken

http://hubpages.com/hub/Anthonys-Are-Liars

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=Policies%2F11.1.2CadCodes.pdf&tabid=233&mid=1812

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=Policies%2F11.1.2Dispositions. pdf&tabid=233&mid=1812

6/26/06 stolen vehicle, report taken

i would be interested in seeing that report.
perhaps reporting a stolen vehicle was a regular component in cindy's parenting style.

[EGirl]

What is LE waiting for? Casey has the trial for child neglect coming up in November. Because of double jeopardy laws they better decide between neglect and murder pretty soon.

You're wrong. Quit posting this or provide a credible link.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I agree 100%, but until LE ever decides whether Caylee is dead or alive, I doubt that this case will move forward in one direction.

How do you know they haven't decided? Just because they haven't sent you a personal notice to let you know? Just because they have not announced it in the verbiage you will accept? Just because you have special abilities into their minds? What? What makes you believe they have not decided?

If you know so much about how LE works then you should know exactly why they have not announced it in the verbiage you want to hear. IMO I believe you are assuming they havent made up their minds. Unless they have told you specificly?

[rosejustrose]

Meanwhile, Casey is stylin' and has the persona of a rock star. imo :rolleyes:


Even Paris Hilton showed more emotion when she was hauled off to jail the second time. Geez, Casey, learn how do to it right for the next time, OK?

[k_can004]

The tapes I have been hearing on NG are chilling, if my child were missing I would be a blubbering mess unable to contain my emotions!!! Casey on the other hand is stone cold....jmho

[Vibo]

Caylee is dead, she was in that trunk and Casey knows where her body is.




ITA :rose:

[OneUp]

I don't understand how people can say that LE is lying about the forensic evidence. In this day and age when you can't even look at someone without them harrassing you or suing you, why would they lie only to be wide open for a law suit? I have no doubt that the Anthony's would waste no time suing LE, it is obvious they have no respect for them....

JMO
That is a good point...can LE afford to lie about the totality of evidence? They know if they state she even MAY be dead and she is not that they will be called to account. I don't think LE would even hint at it if they weren't certain.
JMO.

[Regina.Lampert]

I'd like to know what she was doing outside hammering wooden stakes at midnight for. I guess the 'protesters' aren't the only ones who make noise when the neighbors are trying to sleep.

Because it was Hammer time and she mistakenly thought "can't touch this!!"....................... :tongue:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcNUx0-XEfw

[tybek]

Exactly....

Nothing about this family is logical or normal ....
They certainly are dysfunctional to say the least.
I guess they just don't want to admit that they have failed raising Casey with a sense of responsibility and the idea that "doing the right thing" is what is important.
I think they do know the truth but just can not bring themselves to accept what is .


ITA. I think the Anthony's support of Casey and her strange stories has less to do with unconditional love for Casey and more to do with their own feelings of guilt and failure, plus their own grief...not wanting to face that Caylee is gone forever.

[crymeariver2006]

Thank you for actually providing a link. From the link:


The incident actually prompted an investigation by DCF and it warned Monday protesters could find themselves under investigation.

DCF said it believes it's a parents' primary responsibility to keep their kids safe and with fistfights and foul language sometimes surfacing here DCF said it's really not a place for children.

I am astonished at this, coming from DCF when in the past, if memory serves, it has taken an act of God to get this agency to act on genuine cases of child abuse. IMO.

Isn't the DCF in Florida the one that's got not such a good record of enforcement or keeping tabs on children in the system?

[msgatorslayer]

The tapes I have been hearing on NG are chilling, if my child were missing I would be a blubbering mess unable to contain my emotions!!! Casey on the other hand is stone cold....jmho

Yup. Not a worry or care in the world. She doesn't get defensive. Everything is matter of fact. No concern for Caylee at all. And when LE tells her they think her Daughter is rotting somewhere, she doesn't freak out, cry, nothing. Stone cold! She is a monster! IMO

[Joan Weiss]

omg! Do you really believe casey's stories? Is your name cindy?snap!!!!!!!!

[ruth66]

LE can lie all they wish to, it is legal and no one can sue them.


I'm sorry, I find that hard to believe...but thanks. Please don't try to explain, don't respond...no need....not buying what you are selling today....

[nutterbutter]

That is a good point...can LE afford to lie about the totality of evidence? They know if they state she even MAY be dead and she is not that they will be called to account. I don't think LE would even hint at it if they weren't certain.
JMO.

good post oneup.:seeya:

[msgatorslayer]

Isn't the DCF in Florida the one that's got not such a good record of enforcement or keeping tabs on children in the system?

Yes. They have problems. Lost that one little girl. She still hasn't been found.

[Joan Weiss]

Isn't the DCF in Florida the one that's got not such a good record of enforcement or keeping tabs on children in the system?Perhaps they were forced to make a statement, this being so public and all. imo

[day2day]

Isn't the DCF in Florida the one that's got not such a good record of enforcement or keeping tabs on children in the system?

IIRC you are correct.

[FeelinFroggy617]

Meanwhile, Casey is stylin' and has the persona of a rock star. imo :rolleyes:

And having sex with prison employees!! Imagine... your child is missing and in the meantime, your satisfying strangers! Just solidifies my perception of her. Wonder what George and Anthony think about this? I'm sure shes saying it didn't happen. :rolleyes:

[day2day]

Yes. They have problems. Lost that one little girl. She still hasn't been found.

Have you ever thought of relocating?! You seem ..normal ...?! just askin...:D

[kitty1182]

Because it was Hammer time and she mistakenly thought "can't touch this!!"....................... :tongue:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcNUx0-XEfw

hahaha


http://bestsmileys.com/dancing/11.gif

[poplife]

And having sex with prison employees!! Imagine... your child is missing and in the meantime, your satisfying strangers! Just solidifies my perception of her. Wonder what George and Anthony think about this? I'm sure shes saying it didn't happen. :rolleyes:

What prison employees? Link please.

[nc1948]

That's another reason that I would like the father found. I imagine there are many MANY guys wondering if Caylee was his. He would be NOK and have the right to tm Caylee's name and sue the Anthony family for any $ they make off of Caylee's death.

ohhh-would that be Karma.

[nutterbutter]

Isn't the DCF in Florida the one that's got not such a good record of enforcement or keeping tabs on children in the system?
yes dcf in Fl has over 600 children that were last in there care that are missing an unaccounted for.They have a terrible record.I am not going to link this so just my opinion.

[WillowInFlight]

Yup. Not a worry or care in the world. She doesn't get defensive. Everything is matter of fact. No concern for Caylee at all. And when LE tells her they think her Daughter is rotting somewhere, she doesn't freak out, cry, nothing. Stone cold! She is a monster! IMO
ITA, I wonder what went through her mind when LE made that statement. She probably smirked while thinking "you'll never find her" :(

[st777jo]

I have a question for the people against protesters.

I do NOT believe kids should be there, so lets not go there.

In your neighborhood, suppose the parents of a child molester brought their child out on bail back to your neighborhood house. What would you people in that neighborhood do?

I would dare to say, you would all be out there protesting. So whats is the difference between that and bringing home a woman who lost/killed their child?

just curious.

[greylover]

I realize the LE usually holds out on a murder charge to try to locate the body, but this is getting rediculous. I think they probably have enough evidence to convict Casey of at least 2nd degree murder. I wish they'd just slap the charge on her and give her no bond.
JMO


I think they have enough evidence, I think they are continuing to gather evidence (the stronger the better), but I think they are holding back for now because as soon as Casey is charged, the clock starts ticking for a speedy trial, and Jose Baez will have access to all of the evidence. I think they want to delay as long as possible, enabling them to keep the evidence gathered close to the vest.

jmo

[tybek]

What prison employees? Link please.

I believe LE concluded that was a lie. See link

http://www.local6.com/news/17303134/detail.html

[Heyes]

If she is taking medication, she needs a stronger dose, or different medicine, because it surely is not working.
Maybe something was prescribed, but frankly, I don't think she is taking anything. She would be more mellow, for starters. moo


After the little boy fell to the ground, george tried to get cindy to go back to their house. If you watch the tape it took george and at least one other person to get cindy to leave. She was fighting every step of the way. This woman is a loon. She has no control at all. Cindy had a choice, go in the house or run to the womans car and keep it going. cindy chose to amp it up. To think that cindy is innocent and just enjoying her rights to be in her own front yard is ridiculous. Cindy wants to fight. She wants to bully. She wants to intimdate. She is the problem not the protesters.
Cindy and george have some misplaced anger and are looking for a fight. They come out to the yard nightly looking for one and every night they get it. It's time for the association to send the anthoneys warnings. Time to move casey. It's been proven without casey there, problems don't exist. Casey needs to be removed or the whole family needs to leave. Because of their actions the neighborhood is suffering. To those that are usually on the killers side.... I am getting such a giggle. There is no way on earth to support the suspect in this case. So instead, it's the protesters fault, and or the police and medias fault. It must be hard to want to support casey but can't. Guess picking on the protesters will have to do. :shrug:

imo

[Regina.Lampert]

Isn't the DCF in Florida the one that's got not such a good record of enforcement or keeping tabs on children in the system?

Whoops, I think you're right. They have a history of "misplacing" some children. Lots in common with our little psychopath, imo.

[marinewife5]

Because it was Hammer time and she mistakenly thought "can't touch this!!"....................... :tongue:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcNUx0-XEfw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cszWlq-Nds
it's always hammer time....

[nutterbutter]

Good Morning EG, you know what, last night on CNN the experts did say that LE has enough to charge her with manslaughter at this point. We all have to remember, take a moment and BREATHE. This is REAL LIFE!! Not a CSI episode, or a mouse click! This IS the wheels of justice, turning, and they turn ever so slowly and it's so hard for people to know this who have not been involved in a criminal or civil case. Sometimes it takes YEARS for justice, or an arrest. Look at Mark Jensens case. Good Example. NINE YEARS!!! NINE YEARS for THE LETTER and the Truth of that horrendous poisoning by Jensen. She died a horrible death at the hands of her sick husband. Please remember people this is not an hour episode of tv. This is our Justice System flawed that it can be, it's trying to work. And it's building a case against this family. Let's be patient. Caylee is gone, what happened happened, it's over for her. She will never go to the beach again, she will never learn to swim. She will never go to school or have her first day at school. She will never be loved, she is now protected in death, by many many people who love her, and hold her in a special place in their hearts. Now she is Loved. :rose:
this post is so so sad but yet so true.mo

[rosejustrose]

You're right, in some cases, but unfortunately it's always the bad that we hear and never the good.

Like most things in life.

Sometimes DCFS actually does the right thing, and they certain have made the right first step with that family's case.

ITA. It's just a shame that they're too late to step into the mess called the Anthony family and save Caylee's life. IMO, they're 3 years too late.:mad:

[Velouria]

That's the thing for Cindy to be on the lookout for online...peeps who may be trying to profit off Caylee <respectfully snipped>


I believe she need look no further than the mirror for that, Acorn. How are they paying their living expenses when neither she or George are working now? What is the "Find Caylee" fund actually being used for?

[rosejustrose]

Isn't the DCF in Florida the one that's got not such a good record of enforcement or keeping tabs on children in the system?

IIRC, they're right up there with CA and NY. Stand to be corrected.

[Lorna]

The cops can leak false information. moo

Funny though how the Anthony's attorney, Nejame seems to believe LE (of course it was because LE had cleared his clients lol).

GRACE: Sir, many people have suggested, I believe erroneously, that Cindy Anthony, with a nursing background, may have had the ability to somehow get her mitts on chloroform. So that is a real issue for you.

NEJAME: Well, it`s an issue for people who choose not to believe law enforcement, who`ve clearly gone through all these issues and with hours and hours of discussions with my clients, and have made a determination that they have had nothing to do with this. They are not people of interest and they are not suspects. So anybody that wants to take these wild...

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/10/ng.01.html

I guess some believe LE when the suspects are cleared, but not the other way around. :shrug:

[Regina.Lampert]

hahaha


http://bestsmileys.com/dancing/11.gif

LOL.......love the little guy dancing Doc!! :tongue:

[Amused]

I would be willing to blame just about anything on this vile woman, in fact I think she is directly responsible for the fallout of Merrill Lynch, Lehman Brothers and AIG because I imagine most of the employee's were paying too much attention to this case and not doing their jobs. :D

But I will not blame her for any married man breaking his vows to his wife and sleeping around, the responsiblility falls 100% with the married man. :seeya:


ROLF


(agree with part II)

[crymeariver2006]

Yes. They have problems. Lost that one little girl. She still hasn't been found.

I don't think she's the only one, but I don't live there....but it seems to be peculiar that they want to take on protesters thru the media while remaining eerily silent about Casey and her parenting.

KWIM?

[rosejustrose]

What in the world are you referring to?

If you're talking about the numerous LE that has had sex with Casey, those were not prison employees.

They were OCSO employees.


Oh, thanks! That make a world of difference:rolleyes: IMO she still a ****.

[Heyes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cszWlq-Nds
it's always hammer time....



Break it down....

HAMMER TIME!


hammer

[poplife]

No matter where Casey goes (except jail), there are going to be protestors, no one deserves to live next to that. So, where should she go? (not asking as a smart aleck either)

There was a guy near me that had protestors outside his house all the time b/c of an illegal immigrant work station he set up- the county or city finally ruled in favor of his neighbors that the protestors had to go to the work site and not at his private residence.

[concernedmom]

Well, Im convinced this is a violent family, one full of abuse and who knows the level of that abuse. Maybe the expert on NG last night was right, it's very possible that Casey was very abused, as a child. At this point, we have to look at this. The question will be; was it just Physical or was it worse and did it go much farther than that? I believe that the expert was right; something happened to Casey that made her switch off; unplug, in life and with people at some point. So what was that trigger what was that event? I'd say it was years of abuse, by this woman. Possibly her explosive father as well. Dots....................

I believe alot of these answers will come out during the neglect trial. I also believe the families behavior they have shown and is video taped will also be used in Caseys defense.
Baez says he has compelling evidence or something like that.
G&C keep bailing her out and standing by her and I have a feeling she will throw them under the bus during her defense.
No one or any secrets are safe with Casey Anthony.

[rosejustrose]

After the little boy fell to the ground, george tried to get cindy to go back to their house. If you watch the tape it took george and at least one other person to get cindy to leave. She was fighting every step of the way. This woman is a loon. She has no control at all. Cindy had a choice, go in the house or run to the womans car and keep it going. cindy chose to amp it up. To think that cindy is innocent and just enjoying her rights to be in her own front yard is ridiculous. Cindy wants to fight. She wants to bully. She wants to intimdate. She is the problem not the protesters.
Cindy and george have some misplaced anger and are looking for a fight. They come out to the yard nightly looking for one and every night they get it. It's time for the association to send the anthoneys warnings. Time to move casey. It's been proven without casey there, problems don't exist. Casey needs to be removed or the whole family needs to leave. Because of their actions the neighborhood is suffering. To those that are usually on the killers side.... I am getting such a giggle. There is no way on earth to support the suspect in this case. So instead, it's the protesters fault, and or the police and medias fault. It must be hard to want to support casey but can't. Guess picking on the protesters will have to do. :shrug:

imo

Good post:beer:

[Lorna]

Here's a clue - DCFS is investigating that family.

They apparently wonder too if that woman cares about her son.

In fact, DCFS is issuing warnings to any and all pretend protesters who participate in the Anthony case - they will investigate those who bring kids.

Yes and the OCSO and FBI have been investigating Casey. What's your point?

:confused:

[Joan Weiss]

After the little boy fell to the ground, george tried to get cindy to go back to their house. If you watch the tape it took george and at least one other person to get cindy to leave. She was fighting every step of the way. This woman is a loon. She has no control at all. Cindy had a choice, go in the house or run to the womans car and keep it going. cindy chose to amp it up. To think that cindy is innocent and just enjoying her rights to be in her own front yard is ridiculous. Cindy wants to fight. She wants to bully. She wants to intimdate. She is the problem not the protesters.
Cindy and george have some misplaced anger and are looking for a fight. They come out to the yard nightly looking for one and every night they get it. It's time for the association to send the anthoneys warnings. Time to move casey. It's been proven without casey there, problems don't exist. Casey needs to be removed or the whole family needs to leave. Because of their actions the neighborhood is suffering. To those that are usually on the killers side.... I am getting such a giggle. There is no way on earth to support the suspect in this case. So instead, it's the protesters fault, and or the police and medias fault. It must be hard to want to support casey but can't. Guess picking on the protesters will have to do. :shrug:

imoThank you. That's all so very clear. :beer:

[ruth66]

Going now to do some work.
I just have one more comment to make. I try not to post often and just read and get links to information, media etc....but sometimes it is like being in a bee hive that got hit with a baseball bat in here. Most of you are respectful and friendly. There are a couple of you who honestly, you hide behind the idea of telling truths and protecting the family's rights, but in your words you attack anyone and everyone. I don't think you have favorites to pick on but you attack for the smallest of things.....it is alot like high school. It makes the blood pressure go up.:shrug:

[msgatorslayer]

I don't think she's the only one, but I don't live there....but it seems to be peculiar that they want to take on protesters thru the media while remaining eerily silent about Casey and her parenting.

KWIM?

I just remember that one girl becoming high profile and shining light on the problems with DCF. I can't recall her name though. I'm sure there are more.

I don't believe there is much DCF can do in regards to her parenting at that this point. There is no Caylee for them to take into their custody.

[jakee]

That is a good point...can LE afford to lie about the totality of evidence? They know if they state she even MAY be dead and she is not that they will be called to account. I don't think LE would even hint at it if they weren't certain.
JMO.

I know that LE can lie while interrogating, but would they really hint at a dead baby and put Cindy and George through that agony? :confused: Seriously, I don't know.

[Joan Weiss]

no matter where casey goes (except jail), there are going to be protestors, no one deserves to live next to that. So, where should she go? (not asking as a smart aleck either)

<snip>back to jail.

[day2day]

Is JB ...strutting?! Or is it just me?
http://www.picnuts.com/day2day/a1503/00000001

[Rebel Rouzer]

What in the world are you referring to?

If you're talking about the numerous LE that has had sex with Casey, those were not prison employees.

They were OCSO employees.

I believe the last report said 2 ORLANDO police officers. You do know they have 2 different departments down there correct? From reports they were NOT all from OCSD:read:

[FeelinFroggy617]

What in the world are you referring to?

If you're talking about the numerous LE that has had sex with Casey, those were not prison employees.

They were OCSO employees.


My bad! I read the article and misunderstood. Sorry for the confusion!

[Regina.Lampert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cszWlq-Nds
it's always hammer time....

:lol:


I LOVE IT!!!


hammer

[msgatorslayer]

back to jail.

:beer: I wish!!! Thats exactly where she belongs, IMO.

[need2no]

I'd like to know what she was doing outside hammering wooden stakes at midnight for. I guess the 'protesters' aren't the only ones who make noise when the neighbors are trying to sleep.


I'd like to know if Cindy would have gone in the yard to 'tidy up' the signs and tape if there had been no protesters anywhere around the property....personally I doubt it. IMO she went out there as a way of saying bring it on.......and they obliged.


I can't help but wonder if alot of the current shenanigans are being purposely played out as material for a book and/or mag articles or a Lifetime movie in the future.

[OneUp]

Just when you think you have seen it all. You wake up and theres more. I have asked them where the money is going. I am waiting on an answer. I think its sickening that they are selling these. Vultures.

jmoYou won't get an answer. Ebay lets alot of bad behavior go, but they are real boogers about any auction that claims to go to a charity.
Several years ago, I made a few series' of Art Glass beads and sold them to raise funds for a local family following a tragedy. Ebay made me remove all reference to donation and charity from my listing until I found a way to send the $ straight to an account in the bank set up as a trust AND proved the story with news clippings, a leter from the father in the family, etc.
If there is any claim made that the $$$ goes to charity, report it posthaste before they make another dime.
Always. MO

[kitty1182]

Is JB ...strutting?! Or is it just me?
http://www.picnuts.com/day2day/a1503/00000001

Arm in arm with his client..:rolleyes:

[rosejustrose]

IF Caylee is dead, then I agree with you.

However, her decided death has actually yet to be determined as factual by LE.

In your mind, maybe. I think the manner in which they are proceeding is indicative of the pursuit of a murder charge. But then you'd know that wouldn't you;)

[Katprint]

Originally Posted by girlspell
What is LE waiting for? Casey has the trial for child neglect coming up in November. Because of double jeopardy laws they better decide between neglect and murder pretty soon.

You're wrong. Quit posting this or provide a credible link.
The only way there would be any double jeopardy problem would be if they charged Casey with a particular act of child neglect - failure to properly supervise Caylee on a particular date to protect her from harm, for example - and if Casey is ACQUITTED of that then they cannot use that same act to support future murder charges.

I live about midway between Oakland, CA and Richmond, CA which are both hotbeds of gang shootings. I understand that Oakland has about ten times as many murders per capita as New York City. At least once a month you hear about how someone who was previously convicted of attempted murder or assault with a deadly weapon has now been charged with murder because the victim died. In California, if the victim dies as a result of their wounds within two years, it is still murder. (If they manage to linger past two years then it merely remains attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated battery, mayhem, whatever.) However, if the defendant has already been acquitted of the underlying attack, then the state cannot file murder charges based on that same attack.

New York has the same rule; the "Delayed Death Exception" is discussed in this article much better than I am explaining it here. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B02E1DC1238F932A25751C0A9629582 60

There may be a delayed discovery of death in Caylee's case, and the D.A.'s office may choose to wait until Caylee's body is located before filing murder charges. Double jeopardy does not prohibit Casey being charged with lesser charges in the meantime, however.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[barskin&co.]

If the LE know for sure that Caylee is dead, shouldn't they tell Cindy and George? Does anyone think they did them? I just get the impression they haven't told them they know for a fact. moo

They have told them. They met with them privately several times, like just when The Body Farm tests were revealed. George and Cindy wil not listen.

[rosejustrose]

back to jail.

amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[deep*fear]

I have a question for the people against protesters.

I do NOT believe kids should be there, so lets not go there.

In your neighborhood, suppose the parents of a child molester brought their child out on bail back to your neighborhood house. What would you people in that neighborhood do?

I would dare to say, you would all be out there protesting. So whats is the difference between that and bringing home a woman who lost/killed their child?

just curious.

You should find your state website for SO and put in your zip code or address, you would be amazed how many live close to you.

[Lorna]

Oh no here we go. Another one makes it up as she goes along. Don't bother asking for a link. It doesn't exist.

imo

Mickey Sherman was spot on re: SP supporters. Now they are here. RUN

:chicken:

They sure are. LOL They have a new cause celebre.:lol:

[OneUp]

what's the name of that phenomenon that causes people to write to people in jail?Stupidity?...or would you rather have a more professional term? How does "delusional" sound to you Boxer?:D
That's how I'd describe the "fans" of people in prison..
JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Is JB ...strutting?! Or is it just me?
http://www.picnuts.com/day2day/a1503/00000001

Blubber Belly Baez's Bounce, if you ask me. Casey must have taught him that. iMO.

[Rebel Rouzer]

No matter where Casey goes (except jail), there are going to be protestors, no one deserves to live next to that. So, where should she go? (not asking as a smart aleck either)

There was a guy near me that had protestors outside his house all the time b/c of an illegal immigrant work station he set up- the county or city finally ruled in favor of his neighbors that the protestors had to go to the work site and not at his private residence.

It was suggested early on she should/would go to a safe house and that would mean nobody would know where she is at except for LE and her attorney etc. That never happened. Still don't know why.

I think she should be back in jail and remain there but the wheels of justice don't work on my time or my opinions. lol

[rosejustrose]

I believe the last report said 2 ORLANDO police officers. You do know they have 2 different departments down there correct? From reports they were NOT all from OCSD:read:


Morning, RR! Why bother to point out the obvious. DG is the all knowing Oracle, dontcha know;)

[Lorna]

I cannot believe a 12 year old had to be hospitalized when DNA results came back saying Caylee was possibly dead, what is going on, I mean seriously? Why do these people have to use their kids to get involved, I mean, wow, I am sickened. LE if you know Caylee is dead arrest Casey, stop this already. Jeez, what if the LE is just bluffing about the DNA tests, is that woman going to sue the police department for her daughters stress, what is this world coming to? moo

This is the same child who was emailing and being emailed by the Anthony family.

:(

[jakee]

If casey hadn't killed Caylee, I am sure she and Cindy would be at odds regarding custody and Caylee would just be a pawn in this sick, sick family.

I do beleive everything coming out of her mouth @ that interrogation. Including her declaring "I would have given custody to my mom in a heartbeat". BS, imo.

Also her statement "I am actually glad this happened [mom finding her]
and it happened for a "reason" I don't beleive that either. I am sure if she could get face to face with Amy, who told Cindy where Casey was and in fact took her to that place, she would be shooting daggers with her eyes. I bet in her mind Amy is responsible for a part of this, for busting her when Cindy inquired, Maybe Amy was worried about Caylee as well?


Oh yes, she was happy her mom found her and glad this happened, you can tell by those jail house phone calls how happy Casey was with Cindy! :)

IMO

[ruth66]

Please come back later, dont let idjits distract you, use that iggy button it's your friend! I enjoy your posts. So for those who are "so afraid to post" or just reading, hey join in we need you here. Caylee needs your voice. She really needs our voices right now. She needs help. From those who are following the money trial to those that are watching the lies build and build and build with this "family" Caylee needs us all right now. But if you're here to play defense team, as a student of law or otherwise, it's really disrespectful to Caylee, and her memory. Unless of course you are this family and are trying to sway public opinion which will never ever happen at this point. :shrug: Just log on as yourself, Casey, and tell us what you really think. Cindy, you too! We'd love to have you as we have some questions for you and your "offspring". Dots......................

lurking for a few more minutes...I hope you don't think I am Cindy or anyone of the Anthony's or their acquaintances....If you do, I take offense to that. I would like to think that my judgement and choices are based on moral and christian values....
Carry on:)

[barskin&co.]

Actually, they listen well enough to spin the story to their liking, then they start with the public appearances, screaming and shouting and hammer'ing their version down tight.

Or they announce that the information is wrong, like the telephone records. There was no record of the call from Caylee on July 15; Cindy says the phone records are wrong.

[SandyO]

Is JB ...strutting?! Or is it just me?
http://www.picnuts.com/day2day/a1503/00000001

Cozy, aren't they? I can't imagine walking with my lawyer like that.

[WillowInFlight]

This is the same child who was emailing and being emailed by the Anthony family.

:(

Wasn't this the little girl that organized the setting free of the balloons?

[rosejustrose]

Do you think the cops gave them any suggestions as to how to act with Casey in the house?


They probably advised them not to choloform her to death, put her in their trunk and dispose of her body in some swampy area, IMO.

[Broderick]

Or they announce that the information is wrong, like the telephone records. There was no record of the call from Caylee on July 15; Cindy says the phone records are wrong.

I think she made an assumption that the phone records were wrong because if I recall she mentioned that she had phone calls to Casey and vice versa that were not on the other's phone records. That is very likely to happen if you go directly to voice mail because a phone has no service or is turned off. You would show a call outgoing, with time, but the corresponding phone records would not show that call. She is probably using those instances to assure herself that the phone records have errors.

[MyrDawn]

I think they have enough evidence, I think they are continuing to gather evidence (the stronger the better), but I think they are holding back for now because as soon as Casey is charged, the clock starts ticking for a speedy trial, and Jose Baez will have access to all of the evidence. I think they want to delay as long as possible, enabling them to keep the evidence gathered close to the vest.

jmo

That's what I think too, especially since they don't have a body which makes as much evidence as possible critical. But, it is getting fruuuuuuuustrating!

[Joan Weiss]

That is a good point...can LE afford to lie about the totality of evidence? They know if they state she even MAY be dead and she is not that they will be called to account. I don't think LE would even hint at it if they weren't certain.
JMO.ITA, OneUp. They have been very cautious in their statements. One thing is perfectly clear, they have reiterated over and over that Casey holds all the answers. imo

[rosejustrose]

Cozy, aren't they? I can't imagine walking with my lawyer like that.

I couldn't imagine walking with my layer, oops, lawyer, like that either, IMO.

[Rebel Rouzer]

If the LE know for sure that Caylee is dead, shouldn't they tell Cindy and George? Does anyone think they did them? I just get the impression they haven't told them they know for a fact. moo


Padilla stated that Lee and cindy and Casey were informed the day the preliminary results came back.
We don'tknow what they exactly told them. We aren't privy to that information. Why do you think George was yelling "The body that was in the back of that car was not my granddaughter"?!?!?

Just because LE hasn't made their conclusive determination public does not mean they don't know or have not made up their mind or made a decision.

They don't get thousands of searchers to look for remains of a child if they aren't sure she is deceased. C'mon. think about it. Oh yes they are going to gather all the equpment and people they can to lok for a child they believe could be up walkign around eating banana splits with ficticious nanny Zan and sister Sam. :rolleyes:

I don't think so.

[OneUp]

Buying a bracelet and printing a poster will bring Caylee home to her loving family?
Um, yeah - that would be a miracle to make Caylee alive and for that to be a loving family.

I reported that auction, I don't believe it's within the rules.

I have also reported Cindy Anthony to the Florida DOH to look into her failure to report Elder abuse.:beer:...I'm pulling this smilie out just for you deep! That is a good beginning to settig things right!
Now, does anyone have the time to look into calling about donations and trusts?...calling DCF to express their concern about the abuse of Caylee to generate income?...the Florida bar?
I'll call if I have the time, but it's hard enough to post and you all cannot hear the background noise! LOL.

[nutterbutter]

Padilla stated that Lee and cindy and Casey were informed the day the preliminary results came back.
We don'tknow what they exactly told them. We aren't privy to that information. Why do you think George was yelling "The body that was in the back of that car was not my granddaughter"?!?!?

Just because LE hasn't made their conclusive determination public does not mean they don't know or have not made up their mind or made a decision.

They don't get thousands of searchers to look for remains of a child if they aren't sure she is deceased. C'mon. think about it. Oh yes they are going to gather all the equpment and people they can to lok for a child they believe could be up walkign around eating banana splits with ficticious nanny Zan and sister Sam. :rolleyes:

I don't think so.

great post! honest and to the point.Thank you.moo

[Rebel Rouzer]

Originally Posted by girlspell
What is LE waiting for? Casey has the trial for child neglect coming up in November. Because of double jeopardy laws they better decide between neglect and murder pretty soon.


The only way there would be any double jeopardy problem would be if they charged Casey with a particular act of child neglect - failure to properly supervise Caylee on a particular date to protect her from harm, for example - and if Casey is ACQUITTED of that then they cannot use that same act to support future murder charges.

I live about midway between Oakland, CA and Richmond, CA which are both hotbeds of gang shootings. I understand that Oakland has about ten times as many murders per capita as New York City. At least once a month you hear about how someone who was previously convicted of attempted murder or assault with a deadly weapon has now been charged with murder because the victim died. In California, if the victim dies as a result of their wounds within two years, it is still murder. (If they manage to linger past two years then it merely remains attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon, aggravated battery, mayhem, whatever.) However, if the defendant has already been acquitted of the underlying attack, then the state cannot file murder charges based on that same attack.

New York has the same rule; the "Delayed Death Exception" is discussed in this article much better than I am explaining it here. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B02E1DC1238F932A25751C0A9629582 60

There may be a delayed discovery of death in Caylee's case, and the D.A.'s office may choose to wait until Caylee's body is located before filing murder charges. Double jeopardy does not prohibit Casey being charged with lesser charges in the meantime, however.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Have a told you lately you are such a doll and so smart? :seeya: Very nice and informative post.

[Velouria]

I'd like to know if Cindy would have gone in the yard to 'tidy up' the signs and tape if there had been no protesters anywhere around the property....personally I doubt it. IMO she went out there as a way of saying bring it on.......and they obliged.


I've wondered for the longest why Cindy doesn't get herself an iPod...strap that sucker on and she'll have a hard time hearing anything the protesters have to say. If the Anthonys ignored the protesters instead of egging them on, they'd certainly appear more sympathetic, and I have a feeling many of the more disruptive protesters would get bored and disappear.

[OneUp]

Do you think the cops gave them any suggestions as to how to act with Casey in the house?Do you seriously think they would listen?...maybe the slams on Tim Miller and TES were a part of the "script" Cindy awas given by the police...???...
I used to like Dot to Dot books as a child. They made sense. How do you feel about connecting the dots?
JMO.

[rosejustrose]

Padilla stated that Lee and cindy and Casey were informed the day the preliminary results came back.
We don'tknow what they exactly told them. We aren't privy to that information. Why do you think George was yelling "The body that was in the back of that car was not my granddaughter"?!?!?

Just because LE hasn't made their conclusive determination public does not mean they don't know or have not made up their mind or made a decision.

They don't get thousands of searchers to look for remains of a child if they aren't sure she is deceased. C'mon. think about it. Oh yes they are going to gather all the equpment and people they can to lok for a child they believe could be up walkign around eating banana splits with ficticious nanny Zan and sister Sam. :rolleyes:

I don't think so.


I think both Cindy and George recognize that a dead body was in the trunk. Cindy said someone else put someone else's body in there and George said the body wasn't Caylee. That more or less clinches it in my mind that they know there was a body in the trunk. JMO.

[kitty1182]

Cozy, aren't they? I can't imagine walking with my lawyer like that.

I can't imagine if my hubby were a lawyer and he was walking with his client like that..We would have some words when he got home..

[msgatorslayer]

Padilla stated that Lee and cindy and Casey were informed the day the preliminary results came back.
We don'tknow what they exactly told them. We aren't privy to that information. Why do you think George was yelling "The body that was in the back of that car was not my granddaughter"?!?!?

Just because LE hasn't made their conclusive determination public does not mean they don't know or have not made up their mind or made a decision.

They don't get thousands of searchers to look for remains of a child if they aren't sure she is deceased. C'mon. think about it. Oh yes they are going to gather all the equpment and people they can to lok for a child they believe could be up walkign around eating banana splits with ficticious nanny Zan and sister Sam. :rolleyes:

I don't think so.

ITA - And to give TES 5k and access to other resources when he was about to leave.

[Lilly12]

Morning Barb, she will never talk. She stood before a Judge asking her; she did not talk. She is not intimidated by Cops, she is used to them, was raised by one and grew up around them. They mean nothing to her, she is not easily intimidated to me. She sleeps with them and is used to grooming men and LE to get what she wants. Now she is working on Baez, the Judge did not sway her to even speak. She DID NOT ANSWER HIM. IN a court of Law, in front of everyone and the world. She will never throw her mom under the bus, hate her as she does, she will not let George or Cindy, go to jail for this. And she will never talk. Not even to "sell a story for millions" unless of course, that was this families whole deal and truth from the get go. :( Stick the kid away with someone and perpetuate this huge scandal, for millions. They were a family who needed money. A family with a sketchy financial history at best. Casey was a con, where'd she get that behavior from? Mom and Dad? Is this a family affair? YOU BET IT IS!!

Post of the day!!

Oh, if she goes to trial and is acquitted, maybe she will tell her story for millionS. moo

[OneUp]

Padilla stated that Lee and cindy and Casey were informed the day the preliminary results came back.
We don'tknow what they exactly told them. We aren't privy to that information. Why do you think George was yelling "The body that was in the back of that car was not my granddaughter"?!?!?

Just because LE hasn't made their conclusive determination public does not mean they don't know or have not made up their mind or made a decision.

They don't get thousands of searchers to look for remains of a child if they aren't sure she is deceased. C'mon. think about it. Oh yes they are going to gather all the equpment and people they can to lok for a child they believe could be up walkign around eating banana splits with ficticious nanny Zan and sister Sam. :rolleyes:

I don't think so.Not to mention the significant economic contributions which LE made to TES for their search...
JMO.

[Rebel Rouzer]

great post! honest and to the point.Thank you.moo

Thank you. sorry for the typos.

Also thanks to the other posters who responded to my earlier posts. I can't keep up with every post but I am trying to read them all :seeya:

[jakee]

I've wondered for the longest why Cindy doesn't get herself an iPod...strap that sucker on and she'll have a hard time hearing anything the protesters have to say. If the Anthonys ignored the protesters instead of egging them on, they'd certainly appear more sympathetic, and I have a feeling many of the more disruptive protesters would get bored and disappear.

What happened to that noise maker ringy thing Cindy had a week or so ago? Has she ever used it again? Anyone remember that device?

[crymeariver2006]

This is the same child who was emailing and being emailed by the Anthony family.

:(

Yes, the same one Casey sent a handwritten note to asking her to "spend the night".

[rosejustrose]

My opinions are based on what I observe and see during the unfolding of a case. Religion has absolutly NOTHING to do with this case as far as I can tell; the A's are not a god fearing family. to me it matters not whether they are or are not. What is disturbing is trying to "use" religion or artifacts like a Rosary as a Fashion Statement. It only further shows how stunted Caylee is. If this were Cindy's idea, it shows how stunted SHE is emotionally and mentally. For me this whole problem, always goes back to Cindy. Religion has nothing to do with this case, I reiterate. To some that might be the very heart of the matter. For me; it isnt on the radar at ALL. my morals and ethics are based on inner truth. Science doesnt lie, I have the Street Cred to back up anything I say and I use that often when following people or cases. Works for Me :D


Go, Jenny, Go!!!:beer:

[nutterbutter]

I think both Cindy and George recognize that a dead body was in the trunk. Cindy said someone else put someone else's body in there and George said the body wasn't Caylee. That more or less clinches it in my mind that they know there was a body in the trunk. JMO.

exactly right.I also think they know it was Caylee.mo

[crymeariver2006]

What happened to that noise maker ringy thing Cindy had a week or so ago? Has she ever used it again? Anyone remember that device?


Oh puh-leeeze! That was nothing more than those "As Seen on TV" burglar alarms that goes off when someone opens your front door. The only person that it even sounds loud to is the one that's holding it or right up against it.

You can buy them at Walgreens, last time I checked they had marked them down to a dollar.

[bballgrl]

I've wondered for the longest why Cindy doesn't get herself an iPod...strap that sucker on and she'll have a hard time hearing anything the protesters have to say. If the Anthonys ignored the protesters instead of egging them on, they'd certainly appear more sympathetic, and I have a feeling many of the more disruptive protesters would get bored and disappear.

You know.. When my kids threw temper tantrums in their young little lives, I ignored them and without attention, they went away. If the Anthony's are so "upset" by the protesters.. get out of the house, watch TV, stay IN the house.. whatever. Just do NOT interact.

Sounds like a no brainer to me. They might just go away.

I believe they might secretly LIKE the attention. Keeps them on the evening news, huh? ;)

[Velouria]

My opinions are based on what I observe and see during the unfolding of a case. Religion has absolutly NOTHING to do with this case as far as I can tell; the A's are not a god fearing family. to me it matters not whether they are or are not. What is disturbing is trying to "use" religion or artifacts like a Rosary as a Fashion Statement. It only further shows how stunted Caylee is. If this were Cindy's idea, it shows how stunted SHE is emotionally and mentally. For me this whole problem, always goes back to Cindy. Religion has nothing to do with this case, I reiterate. To some that might be the very heart of the matter. For me; it isnt on the radar at ALL. my morals and ethics are based on inner truth. Science doesnt lie, I have the Street Cred to back up anything I say and I use that often when following people or cases. Works for Me :D

I don't always agree with your posts Jenny but had to say, this one works for me, too. :)

[rosejustrose]

lol.

The Anthonys met with the police a few times, and they were not just short visits. I dont think its a stretch that maybe the cops told the Anthonys they think Casey maybe was planning on getting rid of George and Cindy, so she could have their house, you know how she bragged to Tony that it was about to be her house, and had invited Amy to move in, how exactly did she think she was going to pull that off? The time she was giving Tony the tour she probably had already killed once. moo

I'm not sure how much LE would disclose to the Anthony's. I do remember early on that they had a several hours unannounced visit with the Sherriff. Would have loved to have been a fly on that wall. IMO, the Anthonys were providing information and expressing their concerns about what Casey may have done. I do believe in the beginning they suspected Casey may have given Caylee away. I don't think they ever thought she actually killed the baby. IMO. When it became apparent Caylee was dead and not coming back, I don't know what caused them to change their attitude. JMO.

[crymeariver2006]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)

[Velouria]

Most lawyers don't walk hand in hand with a client, most times they have their hand in your wallet.

LOL!

I think it would have been much more appropriate for him to have her take his arm. The holding hands thing just seemed so, "Looky Ma, we're goin' steady!" :rolleyes:

[Lorna]

Why is this 12 year old this involved, I am all about having compassion about a cause, but when your daughter is being hospitalized over police reports, its time to take your daughter to the zoo, or something productive. It sounds like some weird Münchhausen thing to me honestly. moo

I think the grandmother of the child should take away her phone and computer to keep her from sending or receiving any messages from this family.

I believe she at first became involved trying to organize fundraisers for the family and vigils for Caylee. She became distraught after the DNA tests came back suggesting that Caylee was deceased.

I would support my child in doing fundraisers for this kind of thing, but if they became too involved as apparently they did in this case, they would be made to stop.

Just my way of thinking. :)

[rosejustrose]

How in the world did a 12 year old on the other side of the country get the Anthonys email addresses?


IIRC she was local, St. Cloud or something like that in FL. She organized a vigil for Caylee that G&C attended. The relationship took off from there. Apparently, this impressionable little 12 yr old also became friendly with Casey and beleived her line of crap about someone taking Caylee. When the forensic evidence was released about the body of Caylee in the trunk the kid lost it and had to be hospitalized. I don't think it's an act or a ploy, just a reaction by a broken hearted, betrayed kid. Dang, she's gonna have some trust issues in the future, IMO. Thanks Casey, you're a peach.

[Velouria]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)

:beer:

I emailed last night but never received a reply. Thanks for letting us know, cry. :)

[SavannahStar]

I think everyone knew who "her" was. They also know the others who travel in that same circle every trial. :cool:

I think you missed the rest of the post.....about the American justice system......

[crymeariver2006]

How in the world did a 12 year old on the other side of the country get the Anthonys email addresses?

The 12 year old doesn't live on the other side of the country. She lives near the Anthonys. She is the one that set up that vigil at the church (the only one held at a church).

[Lorna]

I know! I cant even find it! Makes me angry!:cool:

I am just sick to death of these people coming out of the woodwork and getting their 15 minutes, and using the kids! Why was that kid telling Cindy to shut up at midnight? I shudder to think how that kid has been raised. moo

I believe the emails were available to the public as well as the phone numbers when Caylee was first reported missing.

This child was trying to help, got too involved, she is not someone coming "out of the woodwork" any more than we are.

:)

[FrankieBones1]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)

Best news I've heard all day.

[rosejustrose]

What happened to that noise maker ringy thing Cindy had a week or so ago? Has she ever used it again? Anyone remember that device?

Oh yeah. The portable alarm. She used it once when they returned from NeJame's office. I guess his advice has long since been forgotten along with the alarm.:rolleyes: Now it's just hammer time.

[OneUp]

You know what, through all of Cindys antics towards Tim Miller, he was very gracious, and he on some level does understand Cindys grief, as a few people have mentioned on the Nancy show, including Nancy herself. I wish that Cindy could act in a manner that was acceptable to others, but we dont know what she knows from the LE, she cant very well get on the tv now and say I know Casey is a murderer, I think that at that point her safety is in jeopardy, and that alone could probably make Casey kill herself because in all this, at Universal Cindys opinion mattered to Casey more than anything, this girl has craves her mothers love, and as messed up as she is, her perception that Cindy loved Caylee more than her probably drove her to this huge scandal now. moo
You have me dead to rights there Ciao! Tim Miller IS a very gracious man. I admire how he has turned things around from his tragedy to go on and provide support to others.
Thank God he was able to recover from his devastating grief enough to stay on this earth to do his work.
I wish Cindy would behave herself a bit better too...quite frankly I feel a little embarassed for her...and I don't even know the woman personally!

JMO

[Lorna]

The 12 year old doesn't live on the other side of the country. She lives near the Anthonys. She is the one that set up that vigil at the church (the only one held at a church).

Exactly. She was trying to do something to help the family. :)

[rosejustrose]

Oh puh-leeeze! That was nothing more than those "As Seen on TV" burglar alarms that goes off when someone opens your front door. The only person that it even sounds loud to is the one that's holding it or right up against it.

You can buy them at Walgreens, last time I checked they had marked them down to a dollar.

I wonder if half of the cost is donated to the Find Caylee fund:rolleyes:

[Lorna]

Listen to his mother, you will know how he is being raised. It ain't pretty. Shudder along with you. Now that kid is being taught to act just like the bully. No decency.

jmo


:mad:

I agree with you on this child. He should never have been taken to the house, allowed to participate in a yelling match and cursing at Cindy Anthony.

If I wanted to partake in it myself, that would be different. But I would never take my kids.

:mad:

[Snoopy50]

Or they announce that the information is wrong, like the telephone records. There was no record of the call from Caylee on July 15; Cindy says the phone records are wrong.
When she first began spouting this baloney, I called Verizon who is our cell carrier. They assured me that even if an entire system goes down, each system has MEMORY and the calls will EVENTUALLY appear on the bill, most likely on the following month. The rep I spoke with was quite happy to explain how all this works, but she was adamant that if a calls is made or received, it will appear on the phone log billing regardless. CA really must think people are stupid...I know for sure that LE are onto her.:mad:

[Joan Weiss]

I've wondered for the longest why Cindy doesn't get herself an iPod...strap that sucker on and she'll have a hard time hearing anything the protesters have to say. If the Anthonys ignored the protesters instead of egging them on, they'd certainly appear more sympathetic, and I have a feeling many of the more disruptive protesters would get bored and disappear.My thoughts, exactly. I think she comes out to fight. imo

[Regina.Lampert]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)

Excellent work!

[trich]

I think both Cindy and George recognize that a dead body was in the trunk. Cindy said someone else put someone else's body in there and George said the body wasn't Caylee. That more or less clinches it in my mind that they know there was a body in the trunk. JMO.



Of course Cindy was the first to say the car smelled like a dead body was in it.
I did hear her deny she said that at one time...but of course we all heard it on the 911 tape.
I often wonder how much Casey must be thinking ...if she had not abandoned the car.....she could still be living her life saying Caylee is with the nanny.
I have no doubt she would have tried.

[crymeariver2006]

Exactly. She was trying to do something to help the family. :)

And since no one in the Anthony family knows the first thing about appropriate behavior......

Well, there ya go...

[rosejustrose]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)

It was our pleasure. Right is right and wrong is wrong, IMO.

[Lilly12]

If casey hadn't killed Caylee, I am sure she and Cindy would be at odds regarding custody and Caylee would just be a pawn in this sick, sick family.

I do beleive everything coming out of her mouth @ that interrogation. Including her declaring "I would have given custody to my mom in a heartbeat". BS, imo.

Also her statement "I am actually glad this happened [mom finding her]
and it happened for a "reason" I don't beleive that either. I am sure if she could get face to face with Amy, who told Cindy where Casey was and in fact took her to that place, she would be shooting daggers with her eyes. I bet in her mind Amy is responsible for a part of this, for busting her when Cindy inquired, Maybe Amy was worried about Caylee as well?

I wonder if Casey is/was getting any type of welfare for Caylee. If she was getting monthly checks, I believe she would not give custody to Casey for that reason alone. moo

[deep*fear]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)

That's a step in the right direction. Now if only the Nursing Board will do something about my report on Cindy Anthony. :beer:

[WillowInFlight]

My thoughts, exactly. I think she comes out to fight. imo

Yep she's take her frustration with Casey out on the protesters. IMO

[st777jo]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)


I guess some protesting works. jmo

[Joan Weiss]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)Wow, great! Activism at it's finest. :beer:

[rosejustrose]

You also don't continue to ask for information on an alive Caylee if you're trying your hardest to convince people that you really do know that she's dead.

But LE is still asking for alive Caylee information.

Really? I thought they set up a hotline for tips, not specifying a line for an alive Caylee and a line for a dead Caylee. IMO, they're just asking for information. Don't forget, there was never ever an amber alert put out on Caylee because of Casey. JMO and stand to be corrected.

[need2no]

I've wondered for the longest why Cindy doesn't get herself an iPod...strap that sucker on and she'll have a hard time hearing anything the protesters have to say. If the Anthonys ignored the protesters instead of egging them on, they'd certainly appear more sympathetic, and I have a feeling many of the more disruptive protesters would get bored and disappear.


Ah...an ipod, what a great idea, as well as a good point you have made.
Cindy has taken no action to avoid being annoyed/upset by the protesters....yet she thought about and purchased the alarm gadget to drown out the media questions. Clearly she is enjoying the confrontations, otherwise why put herself out there front and center.

[Joan Weiss]

When she first began spouting this baloney, I called Verizon who is our cell carrier. They assured me that even if an entire system goes down, each system has MEMORY and the calls will EVENTUALLY appear on the bill, most likely on the following month. The rep I spoke with was quite happy to explain how all this works, but she was adamant that if a calls is made or received, it will appear on the phone log billing regardless. CA really must think people are stupid...I know for sure that LE are onto her.:mad:Good job, Snoopy! :cool:

[deep*fear]

IIRC she was local, St. Cloud or something like that in FL. She organized a vigil for Caylee that G&C attended. The relationship took off from there. Apparently, this impressionable little 12 yr old also became friendly with Casey and beleived her line of crap about someone taking Caylee. When the forensic evidence was released about the body of Caylee in the trunk the kid lost it and had to be hospitalized. I don't think it's an act or a ploy, just a reaction by a broken hearted, betrayed kid. Dang, she's gonna have some trust issues in the future, IMO. Thanks Casey, you're a peach.
Who is that on? Her own family should have been honest with her from the getgo.
If my daughter wanted to do that, I would have pointed her to helping TES or a 'real' missing child. (my DD is about the same age as this girl)
Children are more devestated by lies than the truth - even if the truth is ugly. If they didn't want to tell the truth, they could have said "the best thing you can do for Caylee is to do a fundraiser for TES"

[rosejustrose]

I agree. Does anyone know if the LE has actual fact that Caylee is dead, confirmed evidence, do they have to tell the family? I can see how maybe some special circumstance here could come into play, but wouldn't it just be a moral obligation to clue these people in?

Thats why I think there is evidence of decomp, but it cant be isolated to Caylee because of all the cleaning stuff Casey used in that trunk. moo

I don't know about that. I think they more or less told Casey during the interview that they know she did something horrible to Caylee. I'm not sure about any obligation to reveal what forensic information they have. They may very well have concrete evidence it was Caylee but are holding it close to the vest since they have two more months before the neglect charges come up. They be hoping Casey will tell where Caylee is or they find her. That would be my strategy and I wouldn't tell the Anthonys jacks**t. JMO.

[jakee]

I think both Cindy and George recognize that a dead body was in the trunk. Cindy said someone else put someone else's body in there and George said the body wasn't Caylee. That more or less clinches it in my mind that they know there was a body in the trunk. JMO.

How large is the trunk in that kind of car? I thought a poster said way back when this all came out, that he/she had the same car and there was no way a body other than a child would fit. Anyone know about the trunk size? If an adult couldn't fit back there, what other child is missing and was placed in the trunk? IMO

[Regina.Lampert]

I guess some protesting works. jmo

.................:beer:

[rosejustrose]

IMO, The Anthony's attitude changed after it was leaked there was a dead body in the trunk and they felt LE had given up on looking for a live Caylee, and as Cindy stated, LE wasn't following up on tips as to where the live Caylee may be.

Their attutide changed when they boarded the "SS Lies" and set sail on the DeNile river.

IIRC, a couple of the "tips" called in actually came from Cindy herself. Didn't both LP and Tim Miller indicate that was a problem?

[Heyes]

I am embarrassed for her too at times, but who knew her dialing 9/11 would lead to the biggest drama of the year basically, and it is spectacular. No one is groomed on how to act, and then on top of that, she is living with Casey which has to be unbearable at best, I hardly doubt the nights are spent playing charades and making hot fudge sundaes.

And also, if I am mistaken, but Tim Miller went through a rough patch after his daughters murder, and it took him years to bounce back and do something so wonderful. Cindy cant start her grieving process until she gets some closure, as of right now its utter chaos. But when Casey goes away, and the media trucks are gone, thats the time she really is going to need support. moo

I wish her luck in finding a supporter.
Whatever Tim Miller went through is not an issue here.
The man didn't lie and hide the truth, Apples and oranges.
Whatever is coming cindy's way, She deserves it.

[Lorna]

I think you missed the rest of the post.....about the American justice system......

No. I never miss a thing. :)

[OneUp]

That's a step in the right direction. Now if only the Nursing Board will do something about my report on Cindy Anthony. :beer:Speaking from the voice of experience in investigating mandated reporters...it will take a bit, but look into it they will.
A high profile case like this one makes any bad behavior a PR issue for any professional group involved. No one wants one Nurse who conveniently dodges her obligation to report Elder A/N/E ( abuse, neglect, and exploitation) to spoil the image of nursing in general. People tend to remember the bad examples who get away with inexcusable behavior over the many fine men and women in the Nursing Field.
JMO.

[anyonesguess]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)

crymeariver, Thanks for the update!! Just goes to show you that just because it is someones right to do something, like post on Ebay, or lose your child, doesn't make it right.

Now that Ebay has taken care of that poster, I think it is Casey's turn to get her due justice.

[day2day]

Cozy, aren't they? I can't imagine walking with my lawyer like that.

He is lucky he is not my hubby. :D jmo

[SavannahStar]

I have a question for the people against protesters.

I do NOT believe kids should be there, so lets not go there.

In your neighborhood, suppose the parents of a child molester brought their child out on bail back to your neighborhood house. What would you people in that neighborhood do?

I would dare to say, you would all be out there protesting. So whats is the difference between that and bringing home a woman who lost/killed their child?

just curious.

No, I would not personally be out there protesting. Not at all. I would use other means to make my voice heard....go to the judicial body overseeing the case, write to legislators, etc. Stuff like that.

[Laurieann]

I'm sorry, I find that hard to believe...but thanks. Please don't try to explain, don't respond...no need....not buying what you are selling today....

I hate to agree with GGA, but police ARE allowed to lie during their investigations and interrigations, and (imo) it is an invaluable tool:

Nevertheless, the United States Supreme Court has ruled that the Police can lie to you in order to extract a confession, Frazier v. Cupp, 394 U.S. 731, 739 (1969). The only place an officer cannot lie is while testifying under oath in court, and criminal defense attorneys occasionally catch an officer lying, even on the witness stand.

http://www.criminalattorney.com/pages/firm_articles_police_lies.htm

[Joan Weiss]

No, I would not personally be out there protesting. Not at all. I would use other means to make my voice heard....go to the judicial body overseeing the case, write to legislators, etc. Stuff like that.Sure, while your kids are locked safe in the house, right? Your/their rights wouldn't be your first priority, right?

[MyrDawn]

I'm not sure how much LE would disclose to the Anthony's. I do remember early on that they had a several hours unannounced visit with the Sherriff. Would have loved to have been a fly on that wall. IMO, the Anthonys were providing information and expressing their concerns about what Casey may have done. I do believe in the beginning they suspected Casey may have given Caylee away. I don't think they ever thought she actually killed the baby. IMO. When it became apparent Caylee was dead and not coming back, I don't know what caused them to change their attitude. JMO.

I agree. The only thing that I can think that might have caused them to change so much is realizing their granddaughter is dead, they just can't bear to lose their daughter too, and feel some guilt. Maybe because they threw her out, maybe because they spoiled her, or some other reason. But, I do think a feeling of guilt over the way Casey turned out and what she did to Caylee plays a part.

JMO

[day2day]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)

Hotdog!! ...Thanks crymeariver. Welp they just lost about 2 grand! I'm lovin it!

:rose: I feel like in some small way we have helped to protect Caylee..i know its not much..:(

[Lorna]

Wasn't this the little girl that organized the setting free of the balloons?

I believe it was Willow. :(

[Lorna]

In case anybody was wondering....

The bracelets have been pulled off Ebay. Thanks to all those who reported them and asked where the $$ was going!

;)

Good! :patriot:

[kakax]

Man arrested last night at Anthony home released.


Orange County Sheriff's Office deputies apprehended a man Tuesday who wanted his friends to take a picture of him outside the Anthony's house. Jim Solomons of the sheriff's office said the man was "detained, questioned and once we determined there was no criminal intent and he had no active warrants, he was released."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony091708,0,6323427.story

[5boxersmom]

How large is the trunk in that kind of car? I thought a poster said way back when this all came out, that he/she had the same car and there was no way a body other than a child would fit. Anyone know about the trunk size? If an adult couldn't fit back there, what other child is missing and was placed in the trunk? IMO

My BIL's work car is a Sunfire, like Casey's. I have looked in the trunk.:):) It is narrow at the trunk lid then it widens up and goes under the back window. It is bigger then you would think. The backseat also lays down. This is jmo.

Caylee:rose:

[st777jo]

Originally Posted by st777jo View Post
I have a question for the people against protesters.

I do NOT believe kids should be there, so lets not go there.

In your neighborhood, suppose the parents of a child molester brought their child out on bail back to your neighborhood house. What would you people in that neighborhood do?

I would dare to say, you would all be out there protesting. So whats is the difference between that and bringing home a woman who lost/killed their child?

just curious.
------------------------




No, I would not personally be out there protesting. Not at all. I would use other means to make my voice heard....go to the judicial body overseeing the case, write to legislators, etc. Stuff like that.


I never said not to do that. And I do. But while that is being done, which won't happen overnight, yes I would be out there protesting, mind you peacefully and not with a child. If the Anthony neighbors are protesting that their kids can't play outside now, how would they play outside with a molester in their area? jmo

[kakax]

Attorney asks judge to reconsider the injunction to keep protesters at bay
11:55 a.m. Karen Wonsetler, who represents the Chickasaw Oaks Phase Three homeowners association, today filed a motion to reconsider the injunction denied by an Orange County circuit court judge on Tuesday.

According to the court document, protesters gathering in front of the Anthony's Hopespring Drive home have been given a written notice of the injunction hearing. Additionally, a copy of the hearing notice was posted on the association's property.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony091708,0,6323427.story

[Regina.Lampert]

First this, and keep in mind both of their quotes are within the very same article - "The Orange Sheriff’s Office said again Monday that “there is a strong probability” that Caylee Anthony is dead"

And then this - “If any evidence to the contrary is provided, it will be vigorously pursued,” the statement from Capt. Angelo Nieves said.

So let's see now.

You try to convince people that she's probably dead, (which is a stupid comment for them to make to begin with), but then turn around and welcome evidence that she's alive?!?!?

How unprofessional - they can't even be taken seriously!

http://www.wesh.com/news/17353349/detail.html

I doubt many people would agree with your criticism of the Detectives working this case.

[SavannahStar]

You know.. When my kids threw temper tantrums in their young little lives, I ignored them and without attention, they went away. If the Anthony's are so "upset" by the protesters.. get out of the house, watch TV, stay IN the house.. whatever. Just do NOT interact.

Sounds like a no brainer to me. They might just go away.

I believe they might secretly LIKE the attention. Keeps them on the evening news, huh? ;)

The only thing they are on the evening news for is being parents of a daughter who probably murdered their grandchild. No I don't think they secretly (or otherwise) like that attention one bit.

[jakee]

My BIL's work car is a Sunfire, like Casey's. I have looked in the trunk.:):) It is narrow at the trunk lid then it widens up and goes under the back window. It is bigger then you would think. The backseat also lays down. This is jmo.

Caylee:rose:

Thank you very much.

[Joan Weiss]

In 10 years check again on this kid, I bet he will be in jail.That's ridiculous, imo. The kid is protesting a baby-killer.

[Rebel Rouzer]

You also don't continue to ask for information on an alive Caylee if you're trying your hardest to convince people that you really do know that she's dead.

But LE is still asking for alive Caylee information.


That's more than the Anthony's and their lawyers are doing. Especially considering they are the ones claiming Caylee is still alive and they are looking for a live Caylee. When have they been asking for leads and tips? When have they pleaded for the safe return of Caylee alive?

I would think of all people you would understand that LE is asking for ALL CREDIBLE tips and leads to cut the defenses arguement during any future trials that they did not investigate all credible leads and only targeted their client. Etc.

[SavannahStar]

I am embarrassed for her too at times, but who knew her dialing 9/11 would lead to the biggest drama of the year basically, and it is spectacular. No one is groomed on how to act, and then on top of that, she is living with Casey which has to be unbearable at best, I hardly doubt the nights are spent playing charades and making hot fudge sundaes.

And also, if I am mistaken, but Tim Miller went through a rough patch after his daughters murder, and it took him years to bounce back and do something so wonderful. Cindy cant start her grieving process until she gets some closure, as of right now its utter chaos. But when Casey goes away, and the media trucks are gone, thats the time she really is going to need support. moo

Good post. And you are absolutely correct about Tim Miller.

[st777jo]

The only thing they are on the evening news for is being parents of a daughter who probably murdered their grandchild. No I don't think they secretly (or otherwise) like that attention one bit.

Sorry, but I now believe they totally are giving into their anger on everyone but Casey. Thats why Cindy seems to only go out there when someone is around. And at midnight at that. jmo

[SavannahStar]

Sure, while your kids are locked safe in the house, right? Your/their rights wouldn't be your first priority, right?

My kid's rights is ALWAYS my first priority.

But tell me, what good would standing in front of a molester's house do? And screaming? Seems to me the avenues I said I would use would work much better.

[Heyes]

She "deserves" whatever is coming her way? Thats horrible, she needs to be punished more than losing a grandchild to death?

yup.. I put the life of that beautiful tiny child that's missing and presumed dead,(because of her mother), way ahead of the grandmother who obviously has lied and imo, covered up the crime. I could care less at this point what if any "support" cindy receives.
hammer
Who talked about "punishing" her more?
She deserves what she has dished out. oh well.

[Joan Weiss]

That's more than the Anthony's and their lawyers are doing. Especially considering they are the ones claiming Caylee is still alive and they are looking for a live Caylee. When have they been asking for leads and tips? When have they pleaded for the safe return of Caylee alive?

I would think of all people you would understand that LE is asking for ALL CREDIBLE tips and leads to cut the defenses arguement during any future trials that they did not investigate all credible leads and only targeted their client. Etc.Excellent observation, Rebel. :cool:

[barskin&co.]

Getting back to the essentials. 93 days ago, a girl who was just under 3 years old was seen for the last time. This little girl depended on people to protect her. One of these people, her own mother, never reported that she was missing and went about her life happily spending time with her boyfriend and clubbing and partying. 31 days later, the OCSO department for Abused and Missing Children finally got involved, and this mother on whom this child depended upon for her protection talked and talked and talked and said nothing but lies. The mother told the people whose job it was to help abused and missing children nothing about where her child was. For the last 62 days, the other adults upon whom this child depended for her protection have rallied round to protect the child's mother, who refuses to tell the detectives in charge of dealing with abused and missing children anything about what she last did with her missing daughter, who depended upon her for her protection.

It has been 93 days. What about Caylee's rights?

[rosejustrose]

I am embarrassed for her too at times, but who knew her dialing 9/11 would lead to the biggest drama of the year basically, and it is spectacular. No one is groomed on how to act, and then on top of that, she is living with Casey which has to be unbearable at best, I hardly doubt the nights are spent playing charades and making hot fudge sundaes.

And also, if I am mistaken, but Tim Miller went through a rough patch after his daughters murder, and it took him years to bounce back and do something so wonderful. Cindy cant start her grieving process until she gets some closure, as of right now its utter chaos. But when Casey goes away, and the media trucks are gone, thats the time she really is going to need support. moo


You're correct about Tim. LE assumed his missing teenaged daughter was a runaway and didn't put much manpower to looking for her. Tim was on his own. He knew his daughter didn't run away. That's why he started TES, to help people search for their missing loved one so they know that there are people out there helping them. JMO.

[Broderick]

Since this requirement has now been fulfilled, and he denied it without prejudice, it will be interesting to see how his second ruling comes down.

"Judge Reginald Whitehead denied the initial request for the injunction because the homeowners association did not give written notice to the protesters as required by Florida law."

He will find another way out possibly. It is a very tough ruling to make. This board discussed precedent and discussed what laws would pertain under Florida law including the Madsen decision. If Florida law requires written notice, then what action would or could be taken by the court. A 36 foot rule would do absolutely nothing and this is not an event nor demonstration requiring a permit to my knowledge. It is individual protesters. Interesting case, but he did weasel out on the ruling the first time around.

The streets are public property as well as the easements and sidewalks. This is not a gated community.

[rosejustrose]

Who is that on? Her own family should have been honest with her from the getgo.
If my daughter wanted to do that, I would have pointed her to helping TES or a 'real' missing child. (my DD is about the same age as this girl)
Children are more devestated by lies than the truth - even if the truth is ugly. If they didn't want to tell the truth, they could have said "the best thing you can do for Caylee is to do a fundraiser for TES"

ITA. This was early one when there was still hope Caylee might be alive. It was before all the lies and forensics, IIRC. Poor kid, her heart was in the right place for the wrong cause. IMO.

[grammie/va]

Getting back to the essentials. 93 days ago, a girl who was just under 3 years old was seen for the last time. This little girl depended on people to protect her. One of these people, her own mother, never reported that she was missing and went about her life happily spending time with her boyfriend and clubbing and partying. 31 days later, the OCSO department for Abused and Missing Children finally got involved, and this mother on whom this child depended upon for her protection talked and talked and talked and said nothing but lies. The mother told the people whose job it was to help abused and missing children nothing about where her child was. For the last 62 days, the other adults upon whom this child depended for her protection have rallied round to protect the child's mother, who refuses to tell the detectives in charge of dealing with abused and missing children anything about what she last did with her missing daughter, who depended upon her for her protection.

It has been 93 days. What about Caylee's rights?

And this is the bottom line, all the bickering, and the accusing, and the picking other posters post won't change any of the above. Very good post!!

[Rebel Rouzer]

Excellent observation, Rebel. :cool:

I'm also confident that the AG and prosecutors along with LE don't want a WRIT OF CERTIORARI later on down the road. :D

[Heyes]

That's more than the Anthony's and their lawyers are doing. Especially considering they are the ones claiming Caylee is still alive and they are looking for a live Caylee. When have they been asking for leads and tips? When have they pleaded for the safe return of Caylee alive?

I would think of all people you would understand that LE is asking for ALL CREDIBLE tips and leads to cut the defenses arguement during any future trials that they did not investigate all credible leads and only targeted their client. Etc.


Exactly Rebel, kinda of no brainer isn't it?
Guess if you can't support the baby killer without looking like a complete knucklehead ya gotsta pick on somthing. Cops, protesters, :rolleyes:
imo

[need2no]

Sorry, but I now believe they totally are giving into their anger on everyone but Casey. Thats why Cindy seems to only go out there when someone is around. And at midnight at that. jmo


Yes, it was quite clear the protesters were there when Cindy ventured outside. As soon as Cindy started hammering away a couple of the protesters walked right up to her and stood there within inches of Cindy watching her.

What reaction did she expect when she went out there knowing good and well these protesters were hanging around.

[st777jo]

Cindy was there first, she didn't "go out there when someone was around".


Sorry, I didn't know you were there.

[grammie/va]

Caylee Anthony Believed to be Dead by Police Due to Forensic Evidence




http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=61801&cat=14

This was dated September 16, 2008, maybe we all should read it and take a few minutes to comprehend it and then post our opinions.

[rosejustrose]

First this, and keep in mind both of their quotes are within the very same article - "The Orange Sheriff’s Office said again Monday that “there is a strong probability” that Caylee Anthony is dead"

And then this - “If any evidence to the contrary is provided, it will be vigorously pursued,” the statement from Capt. Angelo Nieves said.

So let's see now.

You try to convince people that she's probably dead, (which is a stupid comment for them to make to begin with), but then turn around and welcome evidence that she's alive?!?!?

How unprofessional - they can't even be taken seriously!

http://www.wesh.com/news/17353349/detail.html

Thanks for the quotes. IMO, it was the responsible thing to do. They recognize that Caylee is dead but are still supporting the family's request to act on information that Caylee may be alive. It's the best way to deal with being between a rock and a hard place, IMO.

[Joan Weiss]

yup.. I put the life of that beautiful tiny child that's missing and presumed dead,(because of her mother), way ahead of the grandmother who obviously has lied and imo, covered up the crime. I could care less at this point what if any "support" cindy receives.
hammer
Who talked about "punishing" her more?
She deserves what she has dished out. oh well.Cindy had support in the beginning. I supported and defended her and George repeatedly. Their own actions have brought them to their current situation. imo

[trich]

I doubt many people would agree with your criticism of the Detectives working this case.




I agree...
It is amazing to me how so many criticise the authorities...seems as if it is because they don't like what the authorities are saying.
Like who are the professionals here ?
A poster who does not even know what all the LE has as far as evidence goes.
But yet they criticize semantics.
Remember all the flack the LE got in the Scott Peterson case....well
they did their job and look where Scott is now.

[st777jo]

yup.. I put the life of that beautiful tiny child that's missing and presumed dead,(because of her mother), way ahead of the grandmother who obviously has lied and imo, covered up the crime. I could care less at this point what if any "support" cindy receives.
hammer
Who talked about "punishing" her more?
She deserves what she has dished out. oh well.


Exactly. She can't take the heat inside, so she goes outside. jmo

[EGirl]

First this, and keep in mind both of their quotes are within the very same article - "The Orange Sheriff’s Office said again Monday that “there is a strong probability” that Caylee Anthony is dead"

And then this - “If any evidence to the contrary is provided, it will be vigorously pursued,” the statement from Capt. Angelo Nieves said.

So let's see now.

You try to convince people that she's probably dead, (which is a stupid comment for them to make to begin with), but then turn around and welcome evidence that she's alive?!?!?

How unprofessional - they can't even be taken seriously!

http://www.wesh.com/news/17353349/detail.html

2 things: The OCSD didn't 'misplace' Caylee, her sorry excuse for a mother did.

Second, you calling their decisions 'stupid' and them unprofessional says much more about your intelligence (or lack thereof) than it does about the investigators working this case.

Please come back in a month or so for some crow pie.

:seeya:

[GrannyB]

Since the Anthony's at times have said they know where or who has Caylee I wonder if LE could go to Family Court and have a Judge order them to tell where she is. If they don't, throw all three of the Anthony's in jail until one of them tells. Like Mother's who hide their children for fathers and sit in jail rather than tell where the kids are.
One of the three would break in jail and tell LE what the heck is really going on.

[kakax]

Getting back to the essentials. 93 days ago, a girl who was just under 3 years old was seen for the last time. This little girl depended on people to protect her. One of these people, her own mother, never reported that she was missing and went about her life happily spending time with her boyfriend and clubbing and partying. 31 days later, the OCSO department for Abused and Missing Children finally got involved, and this mother on whom this child depended upon for her protection talked and talked and talked and said nothing but lies. The mother told the people whose job it was to help abused and missing children nothing about where her child was. For the last 62 days, the other adults upon whom this child depended for her protection have rallied round to protect the child's mother, who refuses to tell the detectives in charge of dealing with abused and missing children anything about what she last did with her missing daughter, who depended upon her for her protection.

It has been 93 days. What about Caylee's rights?


Ty for bring us back to the basics of this case. Protesters don't matter, media attention doesn't matter, Caylee matters.

[Lorna]

Getting back to the essentials. 93 days ago, a girl who was just under 3 years old was seen for the last time. This little girl depended on people to protect her. One of these people, her own mother, never reported that she was missing and went about her life happily spending time with her boyfriend and clubbing and partying. 31 days later, the OCSO department for Abused and Missing Children finally got involved, and this mother on whom this child depended upon for her protection talked and talked and talked and said nothing but lies. The mother told the people whose job it was to help abused and missing children nothing about where her child was. For the last 62 days, the other adults upon whom this child depended for her protection have rallied round to protect the child's mother, who refuses to tell the detectives in charge of dealing with abused and missing children anything about what she last did with her missing daughter, who depended upon her for her protection.

It has been 93 days. What about Caylee's rights?
Thank you barskin!

:rose:

[MyrDawn]

I have a question for the people against protesters.

I do NOT believe kids should be there, so lets not go there.

In your neighborhood, suppose the parents of a child molester brought their child out on bail back to your neighborhood house. What would you people in that neighborhood do?

I would dare to say, you would all be out there protesting. So whats is the difference between that and bringing home a woman who lost/killed their child?

just curious.

I'm not against protesters, only the ones that scream and shout obscenities. Mostly because of what it does to the neighbors.

As far as your question, there was a woman who lived about half a block down who's son was convicted of sex crimes against a minor. He served prison time and was paroled, to her house. They mailed out those dreaded postcards letting us know he was moving back.

He and his mom lived there about 2 years, and kept very much to themselves. There was never any protest from any of the neighbors.

If he'd been seen walking around the neighborhood, I don't doubt that at least some of the people would have raised a big stink. But, we rarely saw him. I only saw a glimpse of him one time, going from his house to his moms car, in the 2 years he lived there after he was paroled.

This is a family neighboorhood, and most of us have kids of varying ages. We understood the situation the woman was in, and knew she loved her son, but hated what he'd done. The woman had lived here a long time and was well liked. We neighbors discussed the situation among ourselves, and every one felt sorry for her, and not one blamed her for what her son had done.

We did all breathe a sigh of relief when they moved, for sure!

[Heyes]

My kid's rights is ALWAYS my first priority.

But tell me, what good would standing in front of a molester's house do? And screaming? Seems to me the avenues I said I would use would work much better.

I'll tell ya what good it did. Out by where I live, the last 3 molesters that they tried to plunk in a family neighborhood were protested, loudly, daily. All three moved out of those neighborhoods.
Works for me.

[rosejustrose]

She "deserves" whatever is coming her way? Thats horrible, she needs to be punished more than losing a grandchild to death?


Murder by her daughter's hands, IMO.

[Lorna]

2 things: The OCSD didn't 'misplace' Caylee, her sorry excuse for a mother did.

Second, you calling their decisions 'stupid' and them unprofessional says much more about your intelligence (or lack thereof) than it does about the investigators working this case.

Please come back in a month or so for some crow pie.

:seeya:

:beer::beer: Truer words were never spoken!

[nutterbutter]

Thanks for the quotes. IMO, it was the responsible thing to do. They recognize that Caylee is dead but are still supporting the family's request to act on information that Caylee may be alive. It's the best way to deal with being between a rock and a hard place, IMO.
You speak with alot of common sense.moo

[rosejustrose]

The only thing they are on the evening news for is being parents of a daughter who probably murdered their grandchild. No I don't think they secretly (or otherwise) like that attention one bit.


I would hate it. I would send my daughter back to jail, move and leave no forwarding address. I would NOT be out there hammering in signs at midnight or getting into verbal altercations with drive by loonies. There are two sides to every story and the Anthonys are telling their's in the media. It's an ugly story, IMO.

[Rebel Rouzer]

You're right, I do understand that, which is why it's quite unprofessional of them to convince people that Caylee is dead through Forensic "leaks" - and then turn around in the very same article and pretty much say, 'but hey, we could be wrong, so uhhh, if she's really alive, can someone out there let us know?"


No not unprofession. SMART.

They know and believe she is deceased but they are challenging Casey and Family or anyone else to prove them wrong. IMO It also is SMART because they can investigate any tips and leads that do come in and show they infact did investigate ALL leads not just those of a deceased Caylee. Time to wake up and stop hitting the snooze alarm. Not all of the public are complete idiots. They can and do understand what is going on. Those who don't may want to try and educate themselves or not get involved in following the case. My opinion only

[steffaroob4]

Can prosecutors use the lie detector results in court of Casey's ex-frirnds?

[EGirl]

I think it's shameful that you see this case as some sort of contest - "Who can be right that Caylee Anthony is dead!"

How pathetic.


Yes it is pathetic. And what is shameful is that you are trying to smear the reputations of hardworking LE that have done everything they can to FIND CAYLEE. You should be ashamed. IMO

What exactly are your professional LE credentials again? :rolleyes:

[concernedmom]

Since the Anthony's at times have said they know where or who has Caylee I wonder if LE could go to Family Court and have a Judge order them to tell where she is. If they don't, throw all three of the Anthony's in jail until one of them tells. Like Mother's who hide their children for fathers and sit in jail rather than tell where the kids are.
One of the three would break in jail and tell LE what the heck is really going on.


Good idea.

[joint-heir]

Getting back to the essentials. 93 days ago, a girl who was just under 3 years old was seen for the last time. This little girl depended on people to protect her. One of these people, her own mother, never reported that she was missing and went about her life happily spending time with her boyfriend and clubbing and partying. 31 days later, the OCSO department for Abused and Missing Children finally got involved, and this mother on whom this child depended upon for her protection talked and talked and talked and said nothing but lies. The mother told the people whose job it was to help abused and missing children nothing about where her child was. For the last 62 days, the other adults upon whom this child depended for her protection have rallied round to protect the child's mother, who refuses to tell the detectives in charge of dealing with abused and missing children anything about what she last did with her missing daughter, who depended upon her for her protection.



It has been 93 days. What about Caylee's rights?

Amen!!....:rose:Thanks

[Ellie]

I don't think they'll announce anything official until after the neglect trial. Neglect is when you don't report your child missing until you are literally forced to after 31 days and then at the time of trial, the child is still missing (add that you've never given any useful information as to her whereabouts.)

Then, I expect we'll see a grand jury indictment.

All JMO


Totally agree. I think they have plenty of evidence for both neglect and murder, so "double jeopardy" would be a non-issue. They wouldn't need to use the evidence of neglect to charge her for murder, thus they remain 2 separate charges and "double jeopardy" would not apply.

[st777jo]

Originally Posted by st777jo View Post
Sorry, I didn't know you were there.
-------------------------

Pay attention to the video.


I did. Did you. I also watched during the day. The tape was down. No protesters. No Cindy. Now you can tell me, why would someone come out at midnight and hammer down?

[FrankieBones1]

Bumping my sig line.

[MyrDawn]

Can prosecutors use the lie detector results in court of Casey's ex-frirnds?

Here's what I found about that:

"Q. Is a polygraph admissible in court?
Yes. If it is stipulated to by the prosecution, defense and approved by the court prior to the administration of the polygraph."

http://www.floridapolygraphliedetector.com/faq.htm

[EGirl]

Getting back to the essentials. 93 days ago, a girl who was just under 3 years old was seen for the last time. This little girl depended on people to protect her. One of these people, her own mother, never reported that she was missing and went about her life happily spending time with her boyfriend and clubbing and partying. 31 days later, the OCSO department for Abused and Missing Children finally got involved, and this mother on whom this child depended upon for her protection talked and talked and talked and said nothing but lies. The mother told the people whose job it was to help abused and missing children nothing about where her child was. For the last 62 days, the other adults upon whom this child depended for her protection have rallied round to protect the child's mother, who refuses to tell the detectives in charge of dealing with abused and missing children anything about what she last did with her missing daughter, who depended upon her for her protection.

It has been 93 days. What about Caylee's rights?

Perfect post Bar. :rose: WHERE IS CAYLEE?

[Joan Weiss]

It has nothing to do w/ the protesting itself, I made that statement because a child who at 9 is allowed to be out in a verbal war between his mother & Cindy. He told Cindy to shut up, so obviously talking back to adults is ok w/ him and his parents. The kid was yelling the whole time. Then his rather dramatic display of writing pain (attention seeking, imo) was the icing on the cake,
I am sure it did hurt when his arm got smooshed by the door.

Add to this his mother parting words, we are going to the ER and send THEM the bill.

I think protesters are ok, the more pressure on the Anthony family the better. But I wish the morons would stay home. They are drama-seeking rednecks imo.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redneck


I'm disappointed in your post.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Exactly Rebel, kinda of no brainer isn't it?
Guess if you can't support the baby killer without looking like a complete knucklehead ya gotsta pick on somthing. Cops, protesters, :rolleyes:
imo

No brainer is right. I think some peoples Slinky's are Kinked up. :shrug:

[EGirl]

Bumping my sig line.

:punch: <---- For me. I should know better.

[Joan Weiss]

Can prosecutors use the lie detector results in court of Casey's ex-frirnds?I believe they can, with the consent of those tested. imo

I believe they have to give that consent before the test, though. imo

[MyrDawn]

Since the Anthony's at times have said they know where or who has Caylee I wonder if LE could go to Family Court and have a Judge order them to tell where she is. If they don't, throw all three of the Anthony's in jail until one of them tells. Like Mother's who hide their children for fathers and sit in jail rather than tell where the kids are.
One of the three would break in jail and tell LE what the heck is really going on.

I've never heard where any of them said they know where or who has Caylee. Only that she's with people and they're being watched. Do you happen to have a link to where they said they know who or where? If it's true they said it, I certainly think some sort of charge could be filed against them if they refuse to tell.

JMO

[st777jo]

I'm not against protesters, only the ones that scream and shout obscenities. Mostly because of what it does to the neighbors.

As far as your question, there was a woman who lived about half a block down who's son was convicted of sex crimes against a minor. He served prison time and was paroled, to her house. They mailed out those dreaded postcards letting us know he was moving back.

He and his mom lived there about 2 years, and kept very much to themselves. There was never any protest from any of the neighbors.

If he'd been seen walking around the neighborhood, I don't doubt that at least some of the people would have raised a big stink. But, we rarely saw him. I only saw a glimpse of him one time, going from his house to his moms car, in the 2 years he lived there after he was paroled.

This is a family neighboorhood, and most of us have kids of varying ages. We understood the situation the woman was in, and knew she loved her son, but hated what he'd done. The woman had lived here a long time and was well liked. We neighbors discussed the situation among ourselves, and every one felt sorry for her, and not one blamed her for what her son had done.

We did all breathe a sigh of relief when they moved, for sure!

And I bet she didn't act like the Anthony's.

[rosejustrose]

The kid needs to check his own juvenile delinquent mouth in the way that he speaks to grown adults - OR - have it checked FOR him.

I would hope to think that no one here would ever allow their own child to speak that way, but then again, you never know.

Apparently his mother did, and I doubt that she's the only one who condones such things.

Cindy does. Just listen to Casey's potty mouth on the jailhouse tapes. Cindy has been crowned the Queen of the F Bomb. JMO.

[anyonesguess]

The kid needs to check his own juvenile delinquent mouth in the way that he speaks to grown adults - OR - have it checked FOR him.

I would hope to think that no one here would ever allow their own child to speak that way, but then again, you never know.

Apparently his mother did, and I doubt that she's the only one who condones such things.


Yeah I doubt it too. It is obvious Cindy condoned Casey's badmouthing.

[SavannahStar]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redneck


I'm disappointed in your post.

I'd be willing to bet you wouldn't be if she called Cindy a redneck. ;)

[EGirl]

Because that's her yard.
But it's not her street or sidewalk.

She knows what's going on out there. If she didn't want the drama, she'd stay inside or send her daughter back to the pokey.


SHE HAS A CHOICE.

[st777jo]

I'll tell ya what good it did. Out by where I live, the last 3 molesters that they tried to plunk in a family neighborhood were protested, loudly, daily. All three moved out of those neighborhoods.
Works for me.



You understand. Thanks.

[Broderick]

More on protesting rights, it is pretty clear the judge will have a hard time with a decision for an injunction in my opinion.

Sidewalks fall in the provision for "traditional public forums" obviously and that is why I think there is little precedent in this case in Florida beyond someone mentioning abortion clinics (and private residents of workers) in the Madsen decision, which to me was pretty narrow to the issue. It was basically struck down taking a 300 foot buffer zone down to 36 feet which would put people in the middle of the road.

http://news.findlaw.com/features/protester-rights.html

I feel the judge found a reasonable out when he ruled that no notification was done. Still watching with interest because any 1st amendment situation is particularly interesting to me.

[DELANEY]

Just wondering if a psychiatrist or psychologist has profiled Casey's behavior. I don't know if she has a clinical/mental problem, or if it is just a part of her personality to lie like she has in order to not allow herself to ever admit to anyone what she did with Caylee.

I am so baffled by the manner in which she lies, like taking the investigators to Universal Studios and NOT telling them that she doesn't work there until they are inside walking down the hall. She had to know on the way there that they were going to discover it was all a hoax, and then the excuse she gave that she thought Caylee may have been there. WOW! is all that I could think of in astonishment as I listened to her two interviews by the detectives (in full, online).

If she did kill Caylee via use of chloroform or in another manner (either intentional or unintentional) she has done an excellent job of keeping it to herself. I don't think she has ever told anyone. Think of how many people would have "cracked" by now, not being able to hold it inside for this long, especially when confronted with her lies and even admitting to them, without ever giving any type of sensible reasoning for doing so. I am sure the investigators were probably the most baffled they had ever been during their line of work.

Anyone with any common sense has to know that a person who can go for over month without telling ANYONE that their toddler is missing has to be the one responsible for their disappearance. There is no other scenario in the world that makes sense. Even the majority of people who have their child kidnapped and are warned not to contact LE do so anyway. People in this situation are desperate for help. Casey went out of her way to make sure she didn't get any help. Can LE force her to undergo psychiatric evaluation?

Has any evidence been presented by anyone (teachers, friends, family members, etc.) from Casey's past that she has any type of personality disorder?

Does anyone think that she got rid of Caylee because Tony may have remarked to her (or someone else) that he would be interested in a long-term relationship with her if she didn't have a child? I recall that this is one of the motivating factors for Susan Smith murdering her two sons.

Like everyone else I am sick of hearing Nancy Grace hash this case out night after night, but like a bad car wreck, I can't help but watch in anticipation that something new will be revealed and Caylee will be found. If something doesn't break soon I am afraid that this case will be replaced by the next upcoming drama/trauma.

Thinking of Caylee today......:rose:

[rosejustrose]

Getting back to the essentials. 93 days ago, a girl who was just under 3 years old was seen for the last time. This little girl depended on people to protect her. One of these people, her own mother, never reported that she was missing and went about her life happily spending time with her boyfriend and clubbing and partying. 31 days later, the OCSO department for Abused and Missing Children finally got involved, and this mother on whom this child depended upon for her protection talked and talked and talked and said nothing but lies. The mother told the people whose job it was to help abused and missing children nothing about where her child was. For the last 62 days, the other adults upon whom this child depended for her protection have rallied round to protect the child's mother, who refuses to tell the detectives in charge of dealing with abused and missing children anything about what she last did with her missing daughter, who depended upon her for her protection.

It has been 93 days. What about Caylee's rights?


Hear, Hear:beer: Thank you for the reality check!

[GrannyB]

I've never heard where any of them said they know where or who has Caylee. Only that she's with people and they're being watched. Do you happen to have a link to where they said they know who or where? If it's true they said it, I certainly think some sort of charge could be filed against them if they refuse to tell.

JMO


George said he was having the kidnappers watched. They all claim she's alive. Casey said she left her with someone she trusted. Let her tell us who it was. Let's not forget Cindy was the last one the LE can prove was with Caylee. They are all full of bs. Throw them in jail and someone will talk.

[MyrDawn]

And I bet she didn't act like the Anthony's.

Nope, she sure didn't, but that wasn't part of the question I answered. ;)

[Unperson1984]

Air samples taken from the trunk of a vehicle driven by Caylee’s mother, Casey Anthony, have indicated a decomposing body had been stored in the car and earlier test conducted by the University of Tennessee “Body Farm” revealed the same.



Hair found in the trunk has also been directly linked to Casey Anthony and a suspicious stain located in the trunk is believed to be BLOOD from the three-year-old.



http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=59436&cat=0



The Orange Sheriff’s Office said again Monday that “there is a strong probability” that Caylee Anthony is dead, noting that investigators have “additional evidence that has not been made public.”


Investigators had not, until Sunday, disclosed that the decomposing body was, in fact, Caylee.

"The information we've gotten back from the lab that she was in the trunk of that car and that she is dead is certainly something we take seriously," said Orange County Sheriff's Office Sgt. John Allen.

The 3-year-old's grandmother, Cindy Anthony, called 911 in June saying she had not seen her granddaughter in several days and her daughter's car smelled like a dead body.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17353349/detail.html


:read:

Regardless of the SPINS by certain posters, we can look at the facts in the case.

LE are looking for a BODY.


There is not one confirmed fact in the articles you cited.

"Air samples ...have indicated" Indication is not proof

"believed to be BLOOD" Tests should have confirmed it by now

“there is a strong probability” This is far from definitive

"called 911 in June... car smelled like a dead body" It was July

:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

You're right, I do understand that, which is why it's quite unprofessional of them to convince people that Caylee is dead through Forensic "leaks" - and then turn around in the very same article and pretty much say, 'but hey, we could be wrong, so uhhh, if she's really alive, can someone out there let us know?"

Why do you keep calling them "leaks"? That information was released via an official statement. Geez.

[nutterbutter]

No brainer is right. I think some peoples Slinky's are Kinked up. :shrug:

:biggrin:
now that is funny.mo

[ohio-53]

Morning everyone. Please, just how much are these protestors bothering the neighbors. Isn't everyone behind closed doors with their AC on? How much noise can be heard?

I would think the media and all their vehicles and equipment would be the genuine hazard to emergency vehicles getting through.

IMO, the HOA should be more concerned with a possible babykiller in their neighborhood and parents that cover for her. That's the true danger.

ITA

I think it would be intresting to be a fly on the wall in some of the neighbors homes just to hear what they are saying about the Anthonys.

[anyonesguess]

But it's not her street or sidewalk.

She knows what's going on out there. If she didn't want the drama, she'd stay inside or send her daughter back to the pokey.


SHE HAS A CHOICE.


It seems that after supper and the dishes done, CA, and GA say Ok, lets go outside in the FRONT yard and do some busy work. Casey won't talk to us, so we will just take out our frustrations on the protesters. One says to the other. Hey hon, don't forget your cell phone since I know we will be calling 911 here in a few minutes. They other says OK hon, and you grab the hammer and yellow tape.

[margaritaville]

Because that's her yard.

And your right. It is Cindy's choice to provoke the protesters into altercations when ever she feels the need to fight!! Your right!!

I am sure it gets boring inside with nothing to do but help Casey bake brownies for her lawyer ect. This adds some excitement to her day.

Because we all know if she needs to be outside she could pick her back yard which is actually a lot nicer then her front........moo

[BJames]

I just have this sinking feeling that we will be sitting here the same time next week saying...Day 100...Where is Caylee?

Something odd stuck in my mind last night...it goes back to that very first call Casey made from jail to the Anthony home. When she and Cindy were talking about Cindy's 'cameo' appearance....I went back and listened again. It almost sounds like they are play acting...that somewhere this 'routine' had already been discussed?

I do believe that somewhere along the lines that Casey has been very hurt emotionally, she has a serious need to feel 'protected'...especially by males. That is no 'excuse' for her behaviour tho..I am hoping (and I'm sure they have) a good psych keeping a close eye on the family dynamics here. I think some of the things that we have seen happening have been 'predicted'...and I am so hoping that any males involved (even in the least) with this gal exercise a lot of caution. Like many, sex is a tool for feeling in control for Casey...I hope these guys are being very careful.

Just my opinion of course...

[msjoni]

Someone is still selling T-shirts on e-bay with the saying "The nanny did it", 10% of the sales go to "Save the children"......

[Joan Weiss]

I've never heard where any of them said they know where or who has Caylee. Only that she's with people and they're being watched. Do you happen to have a link to where they said they know who or where? If it's true they said it, I certainly think some sort of charge could be filed against them if they refuse to tell.

JMOGeorge said it, on camera. imo

[steffaroob4]

Getting back to the essentials. 93 days ago, a girl who was just under 3 years old was seen for the last time. This little girl depended on people to protect her. One of these people, her own mother, never reported that she was missing and went about her life happily spending time with her boyfriend and clubbing and partying. 31 days later, the OCSO department for Abused and Missing Children finally got involved, and this mother on whom this child depended upon for her protection talked and talked and talked and said nothing but lies. The mother told the people whose job it was to help abused and missing children nothing about where her child was. For the last 62 days, the other adults upon whom this child depended for her protection have rallied round to protect the child's mother, who refuses to tell the detectives in charge of dealing with abused and missing children anything about what she last did with her missing daughter, who depended upon her for her protection.

It has been 93 days. What about Caylee's rights?

The 93 day thing is just killing me, I have never known anyone with a missing child. I do have about 6 friends that have lost young children in various ways, no matter which way they died, each person I have known has has certain similar things, they all struggled to do anything in the first 6 months, not one of them was bar hopping and dancing, they all have a certain loss in their eyes, even years later you can see the difference. I would think that a person who had a missing child would have similar reactions, I can't get past anything casey has done, how can she be looking for her child by herself? Why does she give a rats arse about herself, if Caylee is missing, why wouldn't she be spilling everything she knows to the FBI?

I would love to see her computer records, she seems to be very computer literate. Did she try doing any searches for ZG or her family after Caylee went missing? Was she doing any online searching for Caylee of just posting on myspace?

[WillowInFlight]

George said it, on camera. imo

Yes but he was quick to back track and say he was talking about himself.

[cassidy]

Absolutely! I cannot believe so many are willing to surrender a right because the protests make the Anthony family uncomfortable. Each member of the Anthony family deserves to be "uncomfortable" until the baby girl is found. The pressure applied by the protesters could help achieve that goal. Plus, we have a judge on our side so far. :)

I don't think the prostesters make the Anthony's uncomfortable. I think the Anthony's relish the thought of a good brawl in their yard. They come out looking for trouble that's what keeps everyone glued to their house..JMHO

[Rebel Rouzer]

:lol: You can't be serious in thinking that this is how LE announces a positive death.

That is hysterically funny!

I never said they announced a positve death. I told you why they HAVEN'T done so IMO. Ya hit the snooze alarm again didn't ya? :shrug:

[Heyes]

Since the Anthony's at times have said they know where or who has Caylee I wonder if LE could go to Family Court and have a Judge order them to tell where she is. If they don't, throw all three of the Anthony's in jail until one of them tells. Like Mother's who hide their children for fathers and sit in jail rather than tell where the kids are.
One of the three would break in jail and tell LE what the heck is really going on.


I like it! Especially since George decided to tell the world that he had his people watching the kidnappers. hmmmmmmm How about it George, what ever happened with that?

[Broderick]

Someone is still selling T-shirts on e-bay with the saying "The nanny did it", 10% of the sales go to "Save the children"......

The creative genius in this country is astounding. Not that I condone money making on a tragedy, but it is within the free market concepts to do so. "The Nanny Did It" as a quip is quite catchy and can transcend this particular case in a non-defamation way. Similar to the Bart Simpson quip in essence, "I didn't do it" did in marketing.

[kitty1182]

George made a statement that the "kidnappers" were being watched..
I think LE should make him say where these "kidnappers" are so they can go and rescue Caylee...Does this mean he lies too?
IMO, it runs in the family..

[barskin&co.]

I just have this sinking feeling that we will be sitting here the same time next week saying...Day 100...Where is Caylee?

Something odd stuck in my mind last night...it goes back to that very first call Casey made from jail to the Anthony home. When she and Cindy were talking about Cindy's 'cameo' appearance....I went back and listened again. It almost sounds like they are play acting...that somewhere this 'routine' had already been discussed?

I do believe that somewhere along the lines that Casey has been very hurt emotionally, she has a serious need to feel 'protected'...especially by males. That is no 'excuse' for her behaviour tho..I am hoping (and I'm sure they have) a good psych keeping a close eye on the family dynamics here. I think some of the things that we have seen happening have been 'predicted'...and I am so hoping that any males involved (even in the least) with this gal exercise a lot of caution. Like many, sex is a tool for feeling in control for Casey...I hope these guys are being very careful.

Just my opinion of course...

Oh, I am almost certain of that, unless Caylee's remains are found this week. :rose:
I am so sick of people clamoring on and on about the homeowners' rights or Casey's right to bond or her right to remain silent. I feel like screaming:

What about Caylee's rights???

[Heyes]

I think it's shameful that you see this case as some sort of contest - "Who can be right that Caylee Anthony is dead!"

How pathetic.


where in the world???.... talk about streeeeetching it. sheeesh

[Rebel Rouzer]

Just saw the ebay ad. What a wack job. They should pull it. :flamemad:


They probably will pull it if enough complaints are filed about it and the legitimacy of where the money is going is questioned. IMO

[GrannyB]

Yes but he was quick to back track and say he was talking about himself.



Then he can tell a Judge who he was watching. The Anthony "script" is getting old and boring. It's past time for the truth.

[trich]

No they can't.


But they do now know who is the liar and who isn't.

[SavannahStar]

AHA! Thank you Savannah. I can't believe the double-standard that's become acceptable here. I can't make fun of the protestors .. but we can waste 10 pages on a stupid Mardi Gras/Rosary bead debate... and carry on and on over Casey knotting her t-shirt, and what time of day it is acceptable for Cindy, George and Lee to inhabit their own front yard. :shrug:

I just want to be able to make fun of EVERYONE.

:rose: Nice to see a voice of reason come on board!