The on going trial. Early morning sept 17th

[callmetree]

I WOULD LIKE TO START A NEW THREAD. I'M VERY NEW AT THIS, SO I CAN ONLY HOPE I'M DOING THIS RIGHT. WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING GOOD MORNING TO ALL:seeya: I WILL BE WORKING MOST OF THE DAY AND WILL MISS THE TRIAL. I HOPE ALL THE GREAT POSTERS OUT THERE WILL KEEP THIS THREAD UPDATED. THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL THE UPDATES ON PREVIOUS THREADS.:)

[AnnInOhio]

I WOULD LIKE TO START A NEW THREAD. I'M VERY NEW AT THIS, SO I CAN ONLY HOPE I'M DOING THIS RIGHT. WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING GOOD MORNING TO ALL:seeya: I WILL BE WORKING MOST OF THE DAY AND WILL MISS THE TRIAL. I HOPE ALL THE GREAT POSTERS OUT THERE WILL KEEP THIS THREAD UPDATED. THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL THE UPDATES ON PREVIOUS THREADS.:)

Thank you. Well done Callmetree!

[callmetree]

No sticky each day, just a new thread. Perfect callmetree.

Now you add to it.

THANKS BOOKCLUB . JUST HOPING I DON'T SAY OR DO THE WRONG THING HERE. :seeya: MAY NEED THE GUIDANCE AND HELP OF A FEW NEW FRIENDS.

[callmetree]

Thank you. Well done Callmetree!

:seeya: THANKS ANN! KEEP ME STRAIGHT.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Im here, present and acconted for...LOL..I am looking foreward to watching InSession this morning to catch up on the court proceedings yesterday..and between the posters updating me last eveng and seeing this mornings discussions..I will feel more able to contribute to the boards today!!

I really want to see Mike Gilbert's testimony, as he has been at OJ's side way back in the role of Agent and Promoting his image..thus was directly responsibile in getting OJ into the Memorabila Game way back when..Mike was resposnsible for getting Fromong and OJ together as well.

OJ can cry all he wants about people maing money off his back..but it he that uses these same people to make money for himself that cant be traced..thus kept out of the clutches of any Judgement repayment. You have to know if these people make moey..OJ gets a large piece of that action too!!

I will shut up now, and watch Lisa Bloom this morning to get mire input!!
Will also be watching this thread for discussion..

LMS:seeya:

[AnnInOhio]

Does anybody have a link to transcripts or videos of the preliminary hearing testimony on this matter? Something other than news articles discussing the testimony.

[AnnInOhio]

Im here, present and acconted for...LOL..I am looking foreward to watching InSession this morning to catch up on the court proceedings yesterday..and between the posters updating me last eveng and seeing this mornings discussions..I will feel more able to contribute to the boards today!!

I really want to see Mike Gilbert's testimony, as he has been at OJ's side way back in the role of Agent and Promoting his image..thus was directly responsibile in getting OJ into the Memorabila Game way back when..Mike was resposnsible for getting Fromong and OJ together as well.

OJ can cry all he wants about people maing money off his back..but it he that uses these same people to make money for himself that cant be traced..thus kept out of the clutches of any Judgement repayment. You have to know if these people make moey..OJ gets a large piece of that action too!!

I will shut up now, and watch Lisa Bloom this morning to get mire input!!
Will also be watching this thread for discussion..

LMS:seeya:

I don't care so much about Gilbert because I don't think the issue of whether or not OJ actually owned the items matters to anybody but OJ, Galanter and Grasso. The stuff and its value only goes to OJ's state of mind and the state of mind of the posse. I suspect that's why Judge Glass cuts OJ's attorneys short on that topic.

Riccio's going to be the wildcard. He's a real piece of work as a human being, but I think what you see is what you get with him.

Beardsley is so mentally unstable I wouldn't even put him on if I was the prosecution. He was just one of Riccio's pawns and so excitable I don't think his testimony would be credible.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Does anybody have a link to transcripts or videos of the preliminary hearing testimony on this matter? Something other than news articles discussing the testimony.


I am not sure actual transcripts are yet available since they are still being used in an active trial...but while trying to find something other than just interviews, I found this ytube video which kinda made be smile..It's a spoof of the "Robbery"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZzbwSoLJr0

Hope it doesnt offend anyone!!

LMS:punch:

[llylabrat]

I am not sure actual transcripts are yet available since they are still being used in an active trial...but while trying to find something other than just interviews, I found this ytube video which kinda made be smile..It's a spoof of the "Robbery"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZzbwSoLJr0

Hope it doesnt offend anyone!!

LMS:punch:


:lol: i thought it was funny

[callmetree]

I am not sure actual transcripts are yet available since they are still being used in an active trial...but while trying to find something other than just interviews, I found this ytube video which kinda made be smile..It's a spoof of the "Robbery"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZzbwSoLJr0

Hope it doesnt offend anyone!!

LMS:punch:

GOT A BREAK FROM WORK AND JUST READING TO CATCH UP. I THOUGHT THIS WAS FUNNY ALSO. :lol: THANKS FOR THE LAUGH.

[AnnInOhio]

just some friendly advice: all CAPS are hard on the eyes.

Well I'm old and wear bifocals, so reading anything online is an ongoing battle for me. IMO, all caps is harder to read than typing with proper capitalization and punctuation. Many people will simply skim over posts that are hard to read, especially if they are long. A few words in all caps is one thing; a long paragraph gets pretty trying. Same can be said for all lowercase typing.

[callmetree]

just some friendly advice: all CAPS are hard on the eyes.

:seeya: thanks for the advice. hope this is better for you.

[callmetree]

Well I'm old and wear bifocals, so reading anything online is an ongoing battle for me. IMO, all caps is harder to read than typing with proper capitalization and punctuation. Many people will simply skim over posts that are hard to read, especially if they are long. A few words in all caps is one thing; a long paragraph gets pretty trying. Same can be said for all lowercase typing.

:confused: gosh it is going to be hard to please everyone. maybe i should just go back to lurking because my typing is awful. sorry:(

[Kara]

Well I'm old and wear bifocals, so reading anything online is an ongoing battle for me. IMO, all caps is harder to read than typing with proper capitalization and punctuation. Many people will simply skim over posts that are hard to read, especially if they are long. A few words in all caps is one thing; a long paragraph gets pretty trying. Same can be said for all lowercase typing.
ITA Only difference is I don't wear bifocals, just reading glasses for my presbyopia. :)

Poor OJ, he has to "endure" taunts on his way into court (along with the adoring fans). It could be so much worse, he's not in prison for murder like he should be.

moo

[kate482000]

What time does the trial start today..?

[tashi]

Love this blogger...I used to read her a lot during the Spector trial.

She's following the OJ trial now and if you're interested in a daily summary, here's a link

http://thedarwinexception.wordpress.com/

[Kara]

What time does the trial start today..?
It should have started 10 minutes ago. If they don't get going soon I'm liable to nod off into nappy land. :)

[callmetree]

ITA Only difference is I don't wear bifocals, just reading glasses for my presbyopia. :)

Poor OJ, he has to "endure" taunts on his way into court (along with the adoring fans). It could be so much worse, he's not in prison for murder like he should be.

moo

:shrug: gosh, i'm sorry i got this thread off track.

[llylabrat]

Love this blogger...I used to read her a lot during the Spector trial.

She's following the OJ trial now and if you're interested in a daily summary, here's a link

http://thedarwinexception.wordpress.com/

OMG. I love reading her blog. She hasn't followed a trial since Spector, right? She is going to have some very funny stuff to stay about OJ & this trial.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Does anybody have a link to transcripts or videos of the preliminary hearing testimony on this matter? Something other than news articles discussing the testimony.

Ann..I did locate a link that has all sorts of video's and editorials going way back to initial incident a year ago..I didnt have time to open too many of them..so you now have a smorgasboard to pick from..LOL



http://topics.cnn.com/topics/o_j_simpson


LMS:seeya::read:

[tashi]

OMG. I love reading her blog. She hasn't followed a trial since Spector, right? She is going to have some very funny stuff to stay about OJ & this trial.


She is thorough in her reporting as well as scarastic and witty...a great combo :)

[warrkat]

oh my gawd! i just heard jami say that! pardon me while i get sick. poor oj. all he has to endure:rolleyes:


Maybe Jami needs to go out there and run interference for him.

Mornin' Everybody!

[Kara]

KTLA has footage of attys just now arriving at the courthouse.

[warrkat]

KTLA has footage of attys just now arriving at the courthouse.

I have to keep my screen minimized and the sound off for a little while. My boss..... the BIG boss.... is wandering around the office. Kid you not, guys, I've worked for this man for 7 years, and I've seen him..... maybe 5 times. What the HECK is he doing here today???

[Kara]

I have to keep my screen minimized and the sound off for a little while. My boss..... the BIG boss.... is wandering around the office. Kid you not, guys, I've worked for this man for 7 years, and I've seen him..... maybe 5 times. What the HECK is he doing here today???What's he doing? Disrupting your trial viewing it sounds like. :)

[Kara]

We've got action in the courtroom.

[warrkat]

What's he doing? Disrupting your trial viewing it sounds like. :)

He's out in the parking lot now; checking out the new paint job on the building, I think. He's really nice, has been very good to me since I've been sick and having to take time off and such. I don't think he would even care if I listened while he was here; other people have music on in their offices and he doesn't say anything.

[warrkat]

uh oh! the only time our big boss comes is to fire somebody. we scatter when we see him, lol

He was here to meet a new sales agent; sign the contracts, etc. I knew he was going to be here, but didn't expect him to stay so long.

[Kara]

I can't believe how empty that courtroom is. I wonder why the "fans" from outside aren't coming in to watch the proceedings. I also wonder why the ktla/cnn feed is showing Judge Glass instead of the witness.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Morning all

What trial have we seen this prosecutor on? He looks very familiar.


Darren Mack trial is the latest one that I recall.

LMS:shrug:

[Kara]

haha, girlie post here. we were commenting on the flowers behind the witnesses. look at the tape. it's the same flowers! they are fake, lol.

you'd never know it by looking at them would you.
Ahhh...so this is videotaped testimony. That explains the empty courtroom.... But why are we watching video testimony??

[Kara]

Darren Mack trial is the latest one that I recall.

LMS:shrug:
Darren Mack's trial was in Vegas, but the prosecutors were from Reno, not Vegas.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I can't believe how empty that courtroom is. I wonder why the "fans" from outside aren't coming in to watch the proceedings. I also wonder why the ktla/cnn feed is showing Judge Glass instead of the witness.

I think it is so empty for this testimony because it is a video deposition by this FBI Agent who is not available to testify live in court today. and yes those flowers behind him are the same ones there now..today..and probably very dusty...LOL

LMS:)

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Darren Mack's trial was in Vegas, but the prosecutors were from Reno, not Vegas.

Something to do with change of venue..not sure tho

LMS:shrug:

[warrkat]

Morning all

What trial have we seen this prosecutor on? He looks very familiar.

My picture is a little fuzzy when I enlarge it. He looks to me like one of the detectives on The Closer. That show is good, btw; only saw it a couple of times, but I liked it.

I like the fresh flowers in the courtroom.

[Kara]

they taped his testimony because he wasnt going to be available for the trial. he had tickets paid allready for something...plane tickets.

Gotcha...thanks. I don't like the late hours of this trial as I have the hardest time watching after about 5 p.m. It gets to be time to cook dinner, eat, take the dog for a walk and pay attention to the man..... :)

[Kara]

Something to do with change of venue..not sure tho

LMS:shrug:

Yes, Mack's trial was moved (change of venue) but the prosecutors follow the trial, it's not given to new prosecutors. Lolly was the nickname of the prosecutor in the Mack trial. What's this prosecutors's name....maybe he prosecuted the Binion murder???

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Yes, Mack's trial was moved (change of venue) but the prosecutors follow the trial, it's not given to new prosecutors. Lolly was the nickname of the prosecutor in the Mack trial. What's this prosecutors's name....maybe he prosecuted the Binion murder???

Now you got me scratching my head...bu I do recall clearly Mr. Roger from the Binion trial..along with Judge Bona Venture Sr...

LMS:seeya:

[Kara]

The cnn feed is showing only OJ's face during this recorded testimony and he appears to be talking to himself. He appears to be suffering from some sort of mental disability just watching him....

[tashi]

I can't believe how empty that courtroom is. I wonder why the "fans" from outside aren't coming in to watch the proceedings. I also wonder why the ktla/cnn feed is showing Judge Glass instead of the witness.


I think this is taped testimony recorded on 8-25-08
I don't think the witness was available to testify live

[Kara]

I think this is taped testimony recorded on 8-25-08
I don't think the witness was available to testify liveI figured that out...but thanks for your response.

[warrkat]

warrkat, darn I must be lagging, I commented to you earlier, and Barry'sGirl did too -- about the flowers....

LOL. No, you're not lagging. I started that post, and it was a while before I could finish and send it. THE MAN is gone now, I'll keep up.

[rulovlaw]

I think the attorney asking the questions sounds just like the actor, John Goodman. :cool:

I agre 100 % He sounds exactly like him.

[Alibar]

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Since the FBI man is on video and all the info re chain of care, I agree completely with Bucky Buchanan on IS that it's like watching paint dry.
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:hat:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Now you got me scratching my head...bu I do recall clearly Mr. Roger from the Binion trial..along with Judge Bona Venture Sr...

LMS:seeya:

I just had an "AH HA" moment..Chris Owens was the prosecutor in the Marg. Rudin murder trial..She was found guilty of having her husband murdered...her lawyer became famous for his comment.."Hoisted by my own petard"..in others words..throws himself on the mercy of the court..blaming himself for his errors..and not to blame Mrs. Rudin..LOL

LMShammer

[Lyndawitha"Y]

OMG I saw him doing this yesterday at End Of Day! I swear to you all; the camera was on him for a good two minutes and he was having a CONVERSATION with himself!! He's a freak! I could not believe it; I was cooking and had stopped to look at the court room and see what was happening. He was NOT talking to anyone beside him; he was whispering to himself but it was a conversation. Like something you would do in a mirror? Very WEIRD!!!! I think we should all keep an eye on THAT because he's whacked! BTW it's great to see some of you! I've been listening but busy in the background, all this week. Dots.........................

Maybe OJ is practicing his lines..you know the script for his testimony?..he is quite capable in multi-tasking you know!!

LMS:punch:

[CourtsideVue]

I think the attorney asking the questions sounds just like the actor, John Goodman. :cool:

Heh heh ... I made that very same comment on yesterday's thread. He DOES!

Beth

[meopongo~]

The cnn feed is showing only OJ's face during this recorded testimony and he appears to be talking to himself. He appears to be suffering from some sort of mental disability just watching him....

BWAHAHAHAAAAAA!! :lol:


that just struck me as terribly funny!!! :biggrin:

[meopongo~]

maybe OJ is talking to his "imaginary" friend....charlie....remember?? from the IF I DID IT book.....?? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


yikes! :chicken:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I think that the defense team is going to use all this electronic drivel to accuse LE of faulty, doctoring, altering tapes...Kinda in the same mode of the "Dream team" trying to call faults in all the DNA Evidence...Lose the jury in the minuscia..and bore them to death..and end by saying...EHAAAA, cant be trusted.!!

LMS:cuss:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I am trying to figure out just how alterations and damage can create OJ's voice and others on a tape..??

Does the packaging..or whether it was fed-xed or sent by carrier pigeon goin to make a difference as to what is on that tape..What was recorded is what it is..unless they hired a whole cast of characters to re-enact a scenerio that didnt go down??>>Geesh!!

LMS:confused:

[Fallen Angel]

I think that the defense team is going to use all this electronic drivel to accuse LE of faulty, doctoring, altering tapes...Kinda in the same mode of the "Dream team" trying to call faults in all the DNA Evidence...Lose the jury in the minuscia..and bore them to death..and end by saying...EHAAAA, cant be trusted.!!

LMS:cuss:

their going to TRY but it won't work

[warrkat]

OMG I saw him doing this yesterday at End Of Day! I swear to you all; the camera was on him for a good two minutes and he was having a CONVERSATION with himself!! He's a freak! I could not believe it; I was cooking and had stopped to look at the court room and see what was happening. He was NOT talking to anyone beside him; he was whispering to himself but it was a conversation. Like something you would do in a mirror? Very WEIRD!!!! I think we should all keep an eye on THAT because he's whacked! BTW it's great to see some of you! I've been listening but busy in the background, all this week. Dots.........................

Any chance he's speaking into a microphone? Recording something?

[book]

We've got action in the courtroom.

What link are you using because mine is just showing something from August.

[Kara]

What link are you using because mine is just showing something from August.
At the time that I posted that, I was watching the KTLA feed. I like it best, it's larger and clearer than the cnn feed....plus it comes with Loni and Marta. :)

[book]

At the time that I posted that, I was watching the KTLA feed. I like it best, it's larger and clearer than the cnn feed....plus it comes with Loni and Marta. :)

Thanks. Watching it now.

[CourtsideVue]

I could swear, a couple minutes ago I could hear Beth Karas reporting in the background of the feed. Weird.

Beth

[CourtsideVue]

And as if to prove my point, there was Beth Karas again, commenting for a few seconds, then back to Marta and Loni.

[bearwds]

G'Morning folks...!!

Just up here and all I see is Wendy's day old rolls. Putting some coffee on.

Turned on TruTV just in time to see Jamie's "Last word". Insert little icon losing cookies. Gawd she is irritating. Ok...Beth is on. Sweety.

Haven't turned into live feed yet, just wanted to check in.

Something came to me. Wonder if Judge Glass will do her speed talking when the defendent is sentenced:

"Youareherebysentencedto12yearsGawdhavemercyonyours oul"

No ?? Oh well. Looking forward to Mike's testimony as I think they may get into the off-shore accounts.


bearwds

[CourtsideVue]

Warrkat lives inside my brain. I had wondered yesterday if he was speaking into his pocket, recording something! You're right; you saw it too! It was such a brief thought I didnt even think of it until I read your post! TY Warrkat!! :seeya:

Wow, that's an interesting thought.

[CourtsideVue]

Maybe OJ is writing another book ... "If I Stole It ... and he's including information from the trial, so sometimes he has to add some commentary or thoughts at the time, so that he can use it later in his book.

:shrug:

[warrkat]

Warrkat lives inside my brain. I had wondered yesterday if he was speaking into his pocket, recording something! You're right; you saw it too! It was such a brief thought I didnt even think of it until I read your post! TY Warrkat!! :seeya:

Jut a guess. Maybe he's taking notes for a sequel to his book.

[warrkat]

Maybe OJ is writing another book ... "If I Stole It ... and he's including information from the trial, so sometimes he has to add some commentary or thoughts at the time, so that he can use it later in his book.

:shrug:

I thought of that, too, but you even titled it! Very good.

[bearwds]

Ok... Just tuning in to taped testimony of Kennath Marr.

Thought Conon O'Brian was on !!?!!


bearwds

[legalmania]

This guy is still on he must love to testify, I went to the courthouse stood in line filed three documents and went to the store stood in line checked out drove home and this guy is still talking about audio . I guess I'm gonna go get a sub anybody want something?

[warrkat]

This guy is still on he must love to testify, I went to the courthouse stood in line filed three documents and went to the store stood in line checked out drove home and this guy is still talking about audio . I guess I'm gonna go get a sub anybody want something?

I'm gonna go get something, too. This guy's paint dried for me a looooong time ago.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Now why would the defense want to know and feel the need to educate the jury about stuff like this?..It is enough to know that someone declared an expert in their field would just need to declare he went through his criteria to authenticate..enough said..Waste of time.and only frustrating the jury am sure...Actually if they could not get the motion to suppress this evidence speaks volumes to me..so why beat the evidence to death!!.Gerrrr

LMS:cuss:

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=legalmania I guess I'm gonna go get a sub anybody want something?.....snip
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How about a double Jalapino sub ?? Would help me to wake up. Leery of Wendy's day old rolls. Hubby now sick and she is making him a Merry Maid:eek:

Anyone know who is next on stand ??


bearwds

[tashi]

This guy is still on he must love to testify, I went to the courthouse stood in line filed three documents and went to the store stood in line checked out drove home and this guy is still talking about audio . I guess I'm gonna go get a sub anybody want something?


Tylenol...this subject has been beaten to death

Bring on Riccio, I need some comic relief

[Lyndawitha"Y]

[QUOTE=legalmania I guess I'm gonna go get a sub anybody want something?.....snip
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How about a double Jalapino sub ?? Would help me to wake up. Leery of Wendy's day old rolls. Hubby now sick and she is making him a Merry Maid:eek:

Anyone know who is next on stand ??


bearwds

I think I heard Riccio would be next..or very soon thereafter..

LMS

I heard this from Beth on InSession

[Details]

One decent point - that he listens to the recordings for sudden changes in background noise. No amount of theoretical ability to "upload" changes the fact that it's OJ and crew's voices, and with that to show that the recordings were not altered, I don't think the jury will buy the smoke and mirrors of a theoretical capability to "upload" with the right equipment.

[legalmania]

Now why would the defense want to know and feel the need to educate the jury about stuff like this?..It is enough to know that someone declared an expert in their field would just need to declare he went through his criteria to authenticate..enough said..Waste of time.and only frustrating the jury am sure...Actually if they could not get the motion to suppress this evidence speaks volumes to me..so why beat the evidence to death!!.Gerrrr

LMS:cuss:

Well he helped my roommate he just got a new mac and he couldn't get the sound and I said that's funny this guy is a audio expert, so all of a sudden he said that's it and went downstairs and yelled I got it. So he helped somebody.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Does anybody know if this case will be insession on friday?..Need to know..as I have to work tomorrow (Thurs)..Geesh!!

LMS:confused:

[AnnInOhio]

My frustration is growing! I'm trying to work and watch and listen at the same time. I still cannot get the Las Vegas station to work without constantly rebuffering so I've resorted to listening to the cnn online feed while watching TruTV. Fortunately I've been able to sync the timing with my DVR so that the TV is in time with the delayed CNN.com feed. The CNN feed is trained on the judge for some reason.

[callmetree]

:Maybe OJ is writing another book ... "If I Stole It ... and he's including information from the trial, so sometimes he has to add some commentary or thoughts at the time, so that he can use it later in his book.

:shrug:

i love this post!!:D

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=forensicpsy

I think Nicole used to call him "Largehead"......SNIP
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Yes she did..!! Brings to mind Johnnie Cochran's wearing the knit cap and saying something like, "If I take the cap off, I'm still Johnnie Cochran" <obviously not using actual quote, close as I can get>.

Is OJ's wife in the courtroom ?? Saw a blonde there yesterday, but only a flash.


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

LOL! If I Stole It.....

While he was talking to himself his eyes looked so distant - like he was in another world. Wonder if it's deliberate or if he's losing it. :D

I think Nicole used to call him "Largehead". lol. Looks like he dyed his hair with shoe polish.

moo

OMG..you better patent that saying...You have just spawned a whole litany of future books...aka..If I said it..If I knew it..If I Hid it..and so on...Lets hope this trial will write the last chapter of OJ's continued life of betrayal..lies and scheming!!!

LMS:read:

[legalmania]

One decent point - that he listens to the recordings for sudden changes in background noise. No amount of theoretical ability to "upload" changes the fact that it's OJ and crew's voices, and with that to show that the recordings were not altered, I don't think the jury will buy the smoke and mirrors of a theoretical capability to "upload" with the right equipment.

Especially when OJ walks in the door and says it's O.J. Simpson but what about Clarence Stewart we don't know what he said or what his voice sounds like. I wanna hear the tape of when they walked in the room that is when I can establish some kind of crime.

[Details]

IMO, OJ should be on death row. However, he's NOT and this trial is a witch hunt. How many people care about "thug on thug" violence? Not many. In fact, the police usually leave these types alone and let them "work" their problems out on their own. The prosecutors are using this opportunity to put OJ behind bars (which is fine by me) but it appears they're abusing their power. We need judicial restraint. That's what this system is about. Judicial restraint.Police do care about thug on thug violence, the victims in this case are not thugs but reputable businessmen, and this is no witch hunt - OJ committed several real crimes.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Especially when OJ walks in the door and says it's O.J. Simpson but what about Clarence Stewart we don't know what he said or what his voice sounds like. I wanna hear the tape of when they walked in the room that is when I can establish some kind of crime.

I think Mr. Stewart is getting lost in this case...he is nowhere near as culpible in the planning of, nor orchestrating this sting..he is guilty of participating in an armed robbery..and thats about it..I rather doubt Mr. Stewarts voice will be decernable in any of these tapes or recordings..however, I do believe that the Simpson council are utilizing this guys knowledge base to do the cross of this witness...

LMS:D

[bearwds]

Especially when OJ walks in the door and says it's O.J. Simpson but what about Clarence Stewart we don't know what he said or what his voice sounds like. I wanna hear the tape of when they walked in the room that is when I can establish some kind of crime.
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You haven't heard the robbery tape yet legalmania..??

Did you watch the Prelim at all ??

Crimes committed.


bearwds

[Carol25]

Hi! I have KTLA on. I see what appears a tape of something from 8-25-08. Is that what is happening in the courtroom?

[callmetree]

IMO, OJ should be on death row. However, he's NOT and this trial is a witch hunt. How many people care about "thug on thug" violence? Not many. In fact, the police usually leave these types alone and let them "work" their problems out on their own. The prosecutors are using this opportunity to put OJ behind bars (which is fine by me) but it appears they're abusing their power. We need judicial restraint. That's what this system is about. Judicial restraint.

:confused:how many chances do you really think this man should be allowed?

[legalmania]

will they not put those tapes in evidence?
Yes that is what they are doing in a very long and about way authenticating the tapes so they can go into evidence.

[Details]

Ignoring this crime because of some perception that the victims are 'thugs' and thus deserve whatever they get just encourages the idea that OJ can commit an armed robbery, take what he wants, and get to keep it, free and clear - without checking if it belongs to him (and it doesn't), without checking if this is stuff that was supposed to be turned over for a civil judgement, etc.

Even were this thug on thug violence (and it isn't) - any police department that ignores that helps it to spread - and thugs never limit their victims only to other thugs.

[Details]

Hi! I have KTLA on. I see what appears a tape of something from 8-25-08. Is that what is happening in the courtroom?Yes. It's a witness that apparently they knew would not be available, so he was examined and cross examined then.

[legalmania]

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You haven't heard the robbery tape yet legalmania..??

Did you watch the Prelim at all ??

Crimes committed.


bearwds

A little here and little there but I have so much legal stuff around me I forget unless I write it down.

[Carol25]

Oh, okay...thank you very much!

[janetbefit]

Hi Everyone,

I love this new format! So much easier to navigate I think.

I haven't been around much since DH is still job hunting (since June ugh!) I can't do live feeds since he is on the only computer 24 x 7. Today is out so I get the computer and the TV!!

So, please tell me guys....is Beth okay? She looks distracted? sad? annoyed? I don't know. Do you think she resents sharing so much reporting time with JC? Just curious what your input is on this?

Thanks

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"Y;12135085]I think Mr. Stewart is getting lost in this case...he is nowhere near as culpible in the planning of, nor orchestrating this sting..he is guilty of participating in an armed robbery..and thats about it....SNIP
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Bingo Lynda..

Same as if an armed posse burst into a 7-11 and stole the cash register.

Recorded as well.

Slam/Dunk.


bearwds

[cloe23]

:shrug:
It is trials like this that make me wish I was still working 50+ a week.
BORING.........For me anyway.
I can't see it getting any better either without any medical testimony or DNA. All I saw of the first OJ trial thank G_d was the Bronco chase and the verdict.
Then to top it off Jackie Glass appears to be having mid-life outbreaks and IMO much of the same cynicalism as Elizabeth Halverson. The way she rips off the jury instructions at each break screams to me she would rather be at the spa. These poor jurors!
JMO

[rainbo]

Forgive me for not knowing the name of this guy, but he's the guy that's questioning the witness right now (he's in a brown suit, brown tie and whiteish hair)..have you guys noticed that he sounds exactly like John Goodman? I'm taking my online classes and listening to the trial in the background. Each time this guy begins speaking, I look over to see who it is because he sounds so much like JG.

[AnnInOhio]

Try the California KTLA feed with Lonnie and Marta: www.ktla.com click on OJ trial Also has instructions how to set up your mediaplayer if you need it.

Been there, done that and STILL can't get it to work without constant buffering. Cnnlive must be reading this board, because they've changed their picture to what is on InSession (less the talking heads commercial breaks!)

Thanks for trying!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Hi Everyone,

I love this new format! So much easier to navigate I think.

I haven't been around much since DH is still job hunting (since June ugh!) I can't do live feeds since he is on the only computer 24 x 7. Today is out so I get the computer and the TV!!

So, please tell me guys....is Beth okay? She looks distracted? sad? annoyed? I don't know. Do you think she resents sharing so much reporting time with JC? Just curious what your input is on this?

Thanks

I didnt get that vibe at all from Beth..I cannot believe she would resent any fellow co-workers assisting in this reporting..Maybe she is wondering about her role in covering the Phil Spector Trial (California)..sonce we did hear some scuttlebut about not being televised or streamed??..Who knows.?.maybe someone put too much cream and sugar in her coffee..LOL

LMS:)

[legalmania]

Hi Everyone,

I love this new format! So much easier to navigate I think.

I haven't been around much since DH is still job hunting (since June ugh!) I can't do live feeds since he is on the only computer 24 x 7. Today is out so I get the computer and the TV!!

So, please tell me guys....is Beth okay? She looks distracted? sad? annoyed? I don't know. Do you think she resents sharing so much reporting time with JC? Just curious what your input is on this?

Thanks

I just told my roommate to bug off not in those words he loves distracting me. I think Beth and Jean are going to need each other it's a long day. Even Dominick is there and I think Lisa said she was going.

[bearwds]

Hi Everyone,

I love this new format! So much easier to navigate I think.

I haven't been around much since DH is still job hunting (since June ugh!) I can't do live feeds since he is on the only computer 24 x 7. Today is out so I get the computer and the TV!!

So, please tell me guys....is Beth okay? She looks distracted? sad? annoyed? I don't know. Do you think she resents sharing so much reporting time with JC? Just curious what your input is on this?

Thanks
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Hi janetbefit. Agree, forum is Great, Upgrade in 24-hours.

Sorry to hear about hubby being out of work. Hope he doesn't work in the financial market.

Beth looked yummie...oops, fine to me. JC has her own thing and can't believe Beth getting in a snit over it.


bearwds

[legalmania]

Been there, done that and STILL can't get it to work without constant buffering. Cnnlive must be reading this board, because they've changed their picture to what is on InSession (less the talking heads commercial breaks!)

Thanks for trying!

In Session use to be court tv they have always done it that way but would stay on the air til 6 I think but now it is only til 3.

[cloe23]

no offense cloe but if it is so boring and painful for yo uto watch, then why are you here? those of us that are interested in this case and in the judicial system at work are here posting because of that. if you dont want to watch it, then dont. coming here to just say how boring it is and to dis the judge is not what this thread is for, imo. :shrug:

None taken, Just my opinion. I watch out of habit, not an easy one to break.

[janetbefit]

Thanks. I didn't notice it so much today (Beth) but more yesterday. Beth is one doing early duty on InSession and maybe she's an early riser and that's fine with her. I just always wonder what goes on behind the scenes.

They aren't usually together reporting....

Yeah I know Lisa left to go out there and that's why we had to "enjoy" Rikki. She's not my fave. I thought it was interesting that as savvy and sophisticated as Jack Ford is, he had never been to Las Vegas until Monday!

Okay, off to watch the testimony....:seeya:

[CourtsideVue]

:::yawn:::
I should have taken a nap two hours ago when I really wanted to. I can't believe this tape is still going on. I thought the Judge said we'd be done just a little after 11:00 (pst). That was over an hour ago, and at that time Marta said ... "so just about 45 more minutes of this tape." I'm ready to move on, can you tell?

Jeez!

[legalmania]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"Y;12135085]I think Mr. Stewart is getting lost in this case...he is nowhere near as culpible in the planning of, nor orchestrating this sting..he is guilty of participating in an armed robbery..and thats about it....SNIP
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Bingo Lynda..

Same as if an armed posse burst into a 7-11 and stole the cash register.

Recorded as well.

Slam/Dunk.



bearwds


Not so fast what about intent? Gotta watch more before I hear or see intent.

[bearwds]

A little crush.....:)
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You bet. Something compelling about about a bright, attractive and assertive woman who knows her stuff.

Would be nice to discuss the case with her.

My place.


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

None taken, Just my opinion. I watch out of habit, not an easy one to break.

Hi Cloe...We all realize that this pre-recorded testimony seems boring....however, is necessary to enable these tape recordings are allowed into evidence...It is the defense that is attempting to create somesort of wrong doing in the recorded word...I.E. tampered with, in fault..tainted..The smoke and mirrors will not work in this case..unlike the first OJ trial!!!

LMS:seeya:

[Details]

One more nice point from that long tape - the recorders with the security features the defense was harping on are quite rare, and only used by LE, not easy to purchase.

Interesting that OJ's lawyer wants the tapes in entirely, the other defense guy seems to not want them.

[CourtsideVue]

LOL Marta's mic was still on. She loves these (whatever those are) because you don't have to peel them. (??) And her skin is dry. How embarrassing for Marta. I notice Loni kept her mouth shut and must have eventually pointed out to Marta that her mic was on. I get such a kick out of that pair. I needed that little giggle this morning.

[Details]

I think the Stewart defense guy is fighting a losing battle that OJ's attorney is too smart to engage in, against allowing the tapes in.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Mr. Bryson...please shut the Heck up..I wanna :punch:..you are a broken record...guess what..you already kow the judge is going to allow this in.so get off your "Soapbox"...I really want to know why these tapes are so prejudicial to Mr. Stewart...Hummmmm :eek:maybe there is a convo where Mr. Steward is speaking about the guns...hummmm???

LMS

[legalmania]

I think the Stewart defense guy is fighting a losing battle that OJ's attorney is too smart to engage in, against allowing the tapes in.

I think he wants severance more than anything.

[Details]

how is it prejudicial to mr stewart?Because it shows him taking part in a crime, of course! :D

I don't see how he has anything. But he's objecting like crazy to give options for appeals, IMO. Same crime, no reason for any severance.

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=bearwds;12135134]


Not so fast what about intent? Gotta watch more before I hear or see intent.
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Money.

That was the intent for the whole crew. Only trouble was the assets belonged to the Goldman family. By court order.

Being a paralegal, I can't imagine how or why you would be oblivious to this.

Best wishes


bearwds

[Details]

I think the intent question is about whether the intent was to take by force right from the start, or if it developed into that. Were the guns there to intimidate, or were they fashion accessories being shown off just for the fun of it.

I don't think it's a really relevant question - you go in waving guns, intent is right there. You take stuff that isn't yours, intent is there. You tell the guy when he protests that this is his stuff, that you'll at least leave him his cell phone at the front desk - intent is there. Pretty simple.

[legalmania]

[QUOTE=legalmania;12135218]
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Money.

That was the intent for the whole crew. Only trouble was the assets belonged to the Goldman family. By court order.

Being a paralegal, I can't imagine how or why you would be oblivious to this.

Best wishes


bearwds

I was trained and have worked in this field for so long that I have learned to hear both sides of the story. Hold on my fax is messing up

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Is there any others here listening to this????It seems Galanter looks bored, frustrated and blawwwwwzayyy because he isnt talking???Does he get paid by the word uttered..even OJ looks bored!!!

LMS:shrug:

[Details]

The defense attorney is trying to create an unbelievable mess to mix the jurors up - to have every voice on the tapes authenticated by witnesses who he can question about how they know who it was, how sure they were, are you sure it's still them, etc.


Hmmm - and it sounds like he's doing this even though there's actually only a very small portion he really wishes to challenge for his client.

[cloe23]

Hi Cloe...We all realize that this pre-recorded testimony seems boring....however, is necessary to enable these tape recordings are allowed into evidence...It is the defense that is attempting to create somesort of wrong doing in the recorded word...I.E. tampered with, in fault..tainted..The smoke and mirrors will not work in this case..unlike the first OJ trial!!!

LMS:seeya:

I really need to see OJ go down this time. I am bitter he walked first time. My fear factor is up with the co-defendant thing as I believe that OJ was the ring leader. I guess TruTv has played the judges out break one too many times for me to stomach. I understand the importance of having a no nonsense Judge and control of the courtroom. I would like to see the jury pampered and not confused by how fast the instructions are being read at each break, IMO it minimizes the importance of the jury's duties. I am sure Jackie Glass will read the deliberation instructions slower as there will be many for them to consider. JMO
As for me not watching a trial just because I don't feel all warm and fuzzy about the trial attorneys or judges? That will be a cold day, heck I would of missed the Neil E. defence team and Phil S. team.
Hope your doing good :seeya:

[Details]

I think the two defendants help with getting to the truth in the case. You cannot have one defendant paint the other as the complete villain uncontested because the other attorney is going to tell their version of the truth. There have been several moments already when one attorney or the other objects to something where they are painting what is claimed to be a false image of the events - with only one defendant, you can paint any illusion. With two, you have a harder time.

[legalmania]

The defense attorney is trying to create an unbelievable mess to mix the jurors up - to have every voice on the tapes authenticated by witnesses who he can question about how they know who it was, how sure they were, are you sure it's still them, etc.


Hmmm - and it sounds like he's doing this even though there's actually only a very small portion he really wishes to challenge for his client.

Is the jury present. I think that they are arguing how to present the tapes. The jury shouldn't be there. If they are that's kind of crazy.

[bearwds]

Break time. Resume in about an hour.

A chance to to chores. (getting shovel out) That's why they make a back door.


bearwds

[Details]

The jury is not present. They were sent away right at the start. Although one of the defense attorneys (Stewarts I think) wanted them there.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

The jury is not present. They were sent away right at the start. Although one of the defense attorneys (Stewarts I think) wanted them there.

Actually it was Yale galanter..who got told no way jose until she has ruled and heard all objections..

LMS:D

[cloe23]

I think the two defendants help with getting to the truth in the case. You cannot have one defendant paint the other as the complete villain uncontested because the other attorney is going to tell their version of the truth. There have been several moments already when one attorney or the other objects to something where they are painting what is claimed to be a false image of the events - with only one defendant, you can paint any illusion. With two, you have a harder time.

This is my first co-defendant trial. I was actually confused as to why the one defence attorney objected to the other! I get it now.(sort of) I guess this is co-defendant 101 for me.:read:

[riohouse]

Barry'sgirl,

I could not agree with you more about Jamie Floyd, I love Loni & Martha and am so glad we can watch the trial with them.

Jamie is way too much, she just never shuts up NEVER

Riohouse

[Lyndawitha"Y]

In response to those who have not seen Co-defendent cases:

Well its not my first co-defendent case that I have watched..and in those other cases..I often wonder about how they designate culpabilities..Sometimes I wonder if jurors dont look at the star power and the appearance power...but either way, in a group effort crime..someone has to go down..and given OJ's history..it is obvious nothing goes down with his knowledge and input.

OJ is the Godfather of orchestration of events..he is the Mayor of that "Village of idiots" who have enabled him for the past 15 years!!..Unfortunately, OJ as the leader..should and will be held accountable..because.."BUT FOR" OJ ,none of this would have happened Nothing to do with making money on the back of OJ..This mission was OJ's plan/sting to get his stuff back..which actually belongs to the Goldmans...LOL..I am sure the Goldmans are not interested in pics of "Grandma"..and family photo's..So OJ to want to pull this heist has nothing to do with His Stuff (Family photo's)!!!

LMShammer

LMS

[legalmania]

BG I really like the new medium. Is one thing to read about a crime, or to watch a trial. To be able to communicate with others, whilst watching said live trial is priceless. It's really addictive I think. I love the law, and enjoy watching all of it. I am a freak. But not really I just love true crime, live or not. I always have, but lately the cases of missing people have really really upset me. Really. (bops self) :shrug:


Even though we agree to disagree in the end it's all in good fun. We don't have to face the media as to our decisions and we don't have to go to bed at night thinking about oh did I do this or that. I would much rather view the court from here. I often wish they would do a show on the preparation, of trial. That is hard work also.

[legalmania]

Barry'sgirl,

I could not agree with you more about Jamie Floyd, I love Loni & Martha and am so glad we can watch the trial with them.

Jamie is way too much, she just never shuts up NEVER

Riohouse

Hey Riohouse were you on last night? I think I responded to your post. Anyway welcome. Or maybe you were here all along. I am so confused, between the phone my roommate and even the fax machine is bothering me.

[CourtsideVue]

BG I really like the new medium. Tis one thing to read about a crime, or to watch a trial. To be able to comminucate with others, whilst watching said live trial is priceless. It's really addictive I think. I love the law, and enjoy watching all of it. I am a freak. But not really I just love true crime, live or not. I always have, but lately the cases of missing people have really really upset me. Really. (bops self) :shrug:

Jenny
I'm with you. I LOVE LOVE LOVE true crime. I can't get enough. I read true crime books. I watch trials. My dad is a deputy coroner/forensic investigator and I question him to death about any interesting cases he does. I just can't get enough. Do you find yourself being suspicious about things you see because you have an investigative mind?? I do that. I probably shouldn't, but I can't help it.

I know of a person recently whose baby died. I thought her story about how it smothered in a blanket was just odd. My investigative work turned up that this was the second child in this family to have died this way. So what do you think MY mind is telling me? I just can't help wanting to investigate things. I guess my mind is now programmed to think: "Things are not always as they appear."

[Details]

We're on lunch break, until - 1 minute from now! Might start a few late, of course, as everyone files in - but they should start any time now.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Lynda! I totally agree, every single Time I think of the Goldmans, or Nicoles family and how OJ has continued to profit off of his crime, off of their death, use their blood money, it makes my blood BOIL! I guess there is a part of me that could never sit in judgement of him on a jury. I think that he is a cold blooded killer, and it's his time to "go down" any way the state can make it happen. i know that sounds horrible, and I do have questions about how this tape came to be; and whether or not it was a set up from the start, but all that negates the violence in that room; on that tape that night. I've heard the tape, i dont care if OJ had a gun or not; he was an accomplice and I'm pretty much good to go as a guilty from what we've heard. I dont follow trials and pretend to be a juror, I just go with what I've seen and heard and read and from there I base my opinions. I cant stand OJ simpson, and I hope one day he feels the same pain that he inflicted on Nichole, and Ron Goldman. I think for him that can only happen in a cell. He's a dangerous man. That one juror that was excused put it best: Why after your last trial and then the civil case couldnt you keep your nose clean, but no you ended up here in Vegas, again on the wrong side of the law. Not verbatim but close. I feel the same way, How Come OJ? Are you just really a bad man and no matter where you go; eventually you show your "true colors?" I think so. Abusive, that's my label for OJ. He likes to beat people up, he thinks the world will Kowtow to him. He's so wrong; he will see. Dots

It all comes down to the "Blood on his hands"...kinda like "Out Damn Spot..Out I say" from Hamlet..Once it's there you can never get it off..and his demons are causing him to continue on...He will never ever be able to get away with what he did., ( especially when he reach's FINAL JUDGEMNT),however, what happened in Las Vegas will not "Stay in Las Vegas' much to the chegrin of naysayers..None of this would have happened IF OJ had not engineered it!!!!!

LMS:flamemad:

[warrkat]

Okay, I listened to Monday's and Tuesday's As the World Turns, now it's time to get back to the "other" soap opera.

O/T. Just saw this on the same page as the video link for this trial:
Actor Ryan O'Neal, Son Arrested for Drugs

[legalmania]

In response to those who have not seen Co-defendent cases:

Well its not my first co-defendent case that I have watched..and in those other cases..I often wonder about how they designate culpabilities..Sometimes I wonder if jurors dont look at the star power and the appearance power...but either way, in a group effort crime..someone has to go down..and given OJ's history..it is obvious nothing goes down with his knowledge and input.

OJ is the Godfather of orchestration of events..he is the Mayor of that "Village of idiots" who have enabled him for the past 15 years!!..Unfortunately, OJ as the leader..should and will be held accountable..because.."BUT FOR" OJ ,none of this would have happened Nothing to do with making money on the back of OJ..This mission was OJ's plan/sting to get his stuff back..which actually belongs to the Goldmans...LOL..I am sure the Goldmans are not interested in pics of "Grandma"..and family photo's..So OJ to want to pull this heist has nothing to do with His Stuff (Family photo's)!!!

LMShammer

LMS

I find it odd that nobody thinks that Justin and Sidney deserve anything. They are the biggest victims of all in this. I think those children deserve everything. What are they going to show their children pictures on the internet.

[AnnInOhio]

I think (for me anyway) that is the point. OJ AND his “posse” are not on trial. OJ is. His posse got a deal just so that they could get OJ. It wouldn’t bother me so bad if they had made the deal with others that were NOT brandishing the guns but they didn’t. They have done it this way for one purpose and for one purpose only. To do what Marsha Clarke and Chris Darden failed to do.


I had to run to the commissary….did I miss the slime?
:biggrin:


Well, OJ could have turned on the others just as well, but then he'd have had to admit guilt as they did. OJ never just admits guilt. Everybody acts like they all got off scot-free. I believe they plead guilty and will have felony convictions on their records.

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"YIn response to those who have not seen Co-defendent cases:
Well its not my first co-defendent case that I have watched....SNIP
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WoW Lynda, you just sent my mind spinning backwards in time.

The first co-defendent trial I followed was the "Chicago 7". Charles Garry who defended and Judge Hoffman. Defendents gagged with a cloth during trial. Sort of Abu Grade (sp) preview.

Ouch, that hurt.

Watched the orig murder trial live, and posted on the old "Prodigy Boards" in 1994. ....ack


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I find it odd that nobody thinks that Justin and Sidney don't deserve anything. They are the biggest victims of all in this. I think those children deserve everything. What are they going to show their children pictures on the internet.

Indeed Justin and Sidney are victims....not unlike so many people in OJ's life...even his relationship with his older children is strained and marred with allegations..not to mention his alleged abuse of his significant other lady friend..who by the way havent seen in the courtroom today...So many of his "Villagers" are deserting him.and he will be alone on his island..to enjoy his utopia of his own imagination..One can only get way with so much and so called friends will walk away...He deserves that..OJ is one nasty Puppy!!!

LMS..

BTW..Its not like the Brown's didnt try to shield them from all this from the giddy-up..but OJ revailed thus doomng those kids to a very ugly legacy!!!

LMS:(

[Details]

I find it odd that nobody thinks that Justin and Sidney don't deserve anything. They are the biggest victims of all in this. I think those children deserve everything. What are they going to show their children pictures on the internet.Who has said that? But Justin and Sidney are not involved in this case - none of this was their posessions - not a thing has been shown. They might like to have some of their father's memorabilia - but that's not something that excuses armed robbery.

They are the closest family - but it's up to their guardians to sue for them until they are old enough to do it themselves, then it's up to them to do it themselves if they want this stuff.

But everything I've read says that first, they are not trying to get anything, and second, that they are being taken care of.

I don't know their thoughts - but I know mine. If my father killed my mother, I wouldn't want a thing of his! And if I believed that wasn't true, I'd still not find my memories of my father to be in momentos of his sports career, but in things that represented him as my father. I'm sure they can get a signed OJ photo anytime they like.

[AnnInOhio]

I find it odd that nobody thinks that Justin and Sidney deserve anything. They are the biggest victims of all in this. I think those children deserve everything. What are they going to show their children pictures on the internet.

Oh please! If OJ didn't have sentimental family photos in his possession - if he and his sibs made mom responsible for safeguarding everything - he and his sibs should have made sure where they were when grandma Simpson died. Why would his kids want football stuff - reminders of the life their dad threw away? People lose ownership of stuff stored in storage facilities every day.

[Details]

Who thinks that Justin and Sidney do not deserve anything?No one on these forums - not a word similar to this has been said.

I just love made up accusations to make everyone else seem oh so insensitive, don't you?

[legalmania]

Who thinks that Justin and Sidney do not deserve anything?

I do disagree about them being the biggest victims "In all of this"...yes they were in 1994 & 1995 but not in "this" that is happening now.

I will take the fifth.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"YIn response to those who have not seen Co-defendent cases:
Well its not my first co-defendent case that I have watched....SNIP
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WoW Lynda, you just sent my mind spinning backwards in time.

The first co-defendent trial I followed was the "Chicago 7". Charles Garry who defended and Judge Hoffman. Defendents gagged with a cloth during trial. Sort of Abu Grade (sp) preview.

Ouch, that hurt.

Watched the orig murder trial live, and posted on the old "Prodigy Boards" in 1994. ....ack


bearwds


LOL...You are showing your age...:eek

LMS;)

[Details]

I will take the fifth.Hmm - right to avoid self-incrimination. So then, you are implying that you (or your spouse) are the ones who said that Justin and Sidney deserve nothing?

:D



Although, how that works with your statement that "nobody thinks..." - in order for the fifth to work, you'd have to be saying that everyone in the forum is either a double of you or your spouse. Very interesting. Am I married to you? Obviously if "nobody thinks", that means I have to be part of those who think the opposite, and to take the fifth about how you know what I supposedly think, I have to be either you or your spouse - that's all the right to avoid self incrimination applies to.

[Details]

I was trying to find info on the plea deals made with the other four...so far all I have found is that they made a deal for lesser charges. Robbery and conspiracy without a gun...yada yada. I am wondering if anyone knows what their sentences were. And how can they plead to "without a gun" when they were the ones carrying the guns?


Details...yeah me too...;)I think that's why they call it "lesser" charges - they say "without a gun" as part of the plea.


We're back!

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"Y

LOL...You are showing your age...:eek
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Ack... ...is right.

Will be 62 on Saturday. If I knew I would be here in 2008, woulda invested in IBM and that silly company called Microsoft.


back Live....


bearwds

[Topher]

BG I really like the new medium. Tis one thing to read about a crime, or to watch a trial. To be able to comminucate with others, whilst watching said live trial is priceless. It's really addictive I think. I love the law, and enjoy watching all of it. I am a freak. But not really I just love true crime, live or not. I always have, but lately the cases of missing people have really really upset me. Really. (bops self) :shrug:
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I love the law as well. Unfortunately when defense tactics changed with the advent of the first "Twinkie Defense," the dominoes started to fall against true justice. Then came "Jury Consultants." A defendant is supposed to be judged by an unbiased jury of his/her peers. Defense jury consultants advise which jurors ARE biased towards the defendant, and Prosecution jury consultants advise which jurors are biased against the defendant. Seating a jury that has been selected with the help of jury consultants is NOT, in my opinion, having an unbiased jury! The Voir Dire system should be drastically overhauled to weed out prospective jurors who are biased, have agendas, or could never find the defendant guilty, etc.. Jury consultants should be banned. I also dislike Jamie, and of her guests for many reasons. The most irritating is when she and some of her guest defense attorneys, during a trial where the defendant obviously has a motive, is caught with the weapon in his hand at the scene, confesses, but the confession is thrown out through some technicality, say the most outrageous things to justify acquittal for the defendant. Is it just me, or does Simpson's defense attorney seem like the epitome of a mob lawyer in looks, words, actions, and smoke and mirrors?

Topher

[Details]

I know he has to push for his client - but boy is this annoying. So much nitpicking. And I think he's quoting one bit of the law that does not apply - he mentions that deletions are present - and I don't think the law he quotes is talking of the same type of deletion. There are no deletions in the tapes where parts of the audio in these recordings was deliberately deleted. There are deletions on the recording devices that are old deleted recordings.

And the experts say they cannot testify there's no way the tapes were altered - which is pretty much what an expert will always say - because there's always some way. But that's the difference between a scientist or expert and an average person's language. There's no reason to think these items were modified, it'd take some knowledge to have done so, and the recordings appear unaltered. But to say it is impossible is nothing any reputable expert would say.

So I don't think what he is quoting applies, nor should it.

[Details]

I asked earlier but not sure if anyone caught it...how long do they expect the trial to last? Anyone heard?The judge has a trip in October, IIRC, that she seems quite determined to make, and believes she can. A few weeks.

[CourtsideVue]

I asked earlier but not sure if anyone caught it...how long do they expect the trial to last? Anyone heard?

They have set aside five weeks for this trial.

[bearwds]

I asked earlier but not sure if anyone caught it...how long do they expect the trial to last? Anyone heard?
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Nothing set in stone. Who knows ?? Both of them may plead out at any moment. Never know.

The best guesstamets are 4-5 weeks.

I have guessed 5 weeks, the end of October.

PS trial will start around then.


bearwds

[norwood]

Hi
I have been watching this trial unfold and think the Judge made a wise ruling on not allowing the transcripts of the audio tapes. It would leave the door wide open for appeal. This way the jury decideds upon hearing the tapes what they believe and hopeully when they go to deliberate if they are allowed they can listen to those tapes again if they want to. By doing this a defense attorney can not say that the transcripts have been altered as to what was said or have parts missing.

Love the great big styrofoam cup with straw the Judge is drinking from lol. No little glass of water for her. This will probably lead to several 10 min breaks he he.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I was trying to find info on the plea deals made with the other four...so far all I have found is that they made a deal for lesser charges. Robbery and conspiracy without a gun...yada yada. I am wondering if anyone knows what their sentences were. And how can they plead to "without a gun" when they were the ones carrying the guns?


Details...yeah me too...;)

I do think that the sentencing will be forthcoming..in others words..no specif sentence was guaranteed to any of them...especially the guys who carried guns!!

LMS

[bearwds]

Next witness....Detective Cardwell (sp)


Then, tapes.

Sleepy jury. Glass ofering rubber band to jury to keep awake. <serious>


bearwds

[Details]

Fun judge: "OK jury, I understand there was some issues at lunch - specifically, some Cobbler. So, if you need help staying awake after that lunch, we have some aids here to keep you awake, specifically rubber bands you can snap against your wrist..."
:lol:

[callmetree]

trying to play catch up here . i read where someone asked where his wife was. was there actually someone looney enough to marry this man? :shrug: i guess it's been noticed i never use this man's name. leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. MOO

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Anybody else getting loud static on their audio feed\// or is it my laptop??

LMS:shrug:

[cherylt]

Anybody else getting loud static on their audio feed\// or is it my laptop??

LMS:shrug:

I am getting static too on CNN - thought it was MY laptop. Maybe we should switch to KTLA?

[Lyndawitha"Y]

here is another link

TY.however that feed keeps re-buffering..then goes blank..so using CNN and KNBC Feed..but still have static...worse on CNN tho

http://www.knbc.com/videostream/10954229/detail.html....this one is not so bad...but picture is smaller

LMS:seeya:

[cherylt]

Has anyone tried Michael Bryant's new site yet for live streaming? He was going to start with the OJ trial. www.thelegaledge.com

[bearwds]

KTLA...is excellent today. No buffering and clear sound.

Detective seems personable.


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

OMG..I just enlarged my screen..and yiks..this agent looks so young like a puppy to me..this guy is rather good looking...if you like that sort..

Maybe I am feeling my age at this point!!

LMS

[legalmania]

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I love the law as well. Unfortunately when defense tactics changed with the advent of the first "Twinkie Defense," the dominoes started to fall against true justice. Then came "Jury Consultants." A defendant is supposed to be judged by an unbiased jury of his/her peers. Defense jury consultants advise which jurors ARE biased towards the defendant, and Prosecution jury consultants advise which jurors are biased against the defendant. Seating a jury that has been selected with the help of jury consultants is NOT, in my opinion, having an unbiased jury! The Voir Dire system should be drastically overhauled to weed out prospective jurors who are biased, have agendas, or could never find the defendant guilty, etc.. Jury consultants should be banned. I also dislike Jamie, and of her guests for many reasons. The most irritating is when she and some of her guest defense attorneys, during a trial where the defendant obviously has a motive, is caught with the weapon in his hand at the scene, confesses, but the confession is thrown out through some technicality, say the most outrageous things to justify acquittal for the defendant. Is it just me, or does Simpson's defense attorney seem like the epitome of a mob lawyer in looks, words, actions, and smoke and mirrors?

Topher

I heard just the opposite that there were no jury consultants. I use to be a jury consult and no they shouldn't be banned. Preparing for trial is so involved that sometimes a lawyer may miss a bad juror. A lot of my friends still are jury consults. Our judicial system works 98% of the time and it's very rare that people don't go to jail. If an confession gets thrown out it usually is LE fault not the jury consultant.

[cherylt]

Has anyone tried Michael Bryant's new site yet for live streaming? He was going to start with the OJ trial. www.thelegaledge.com

Sorry to quote myself but just wanted to let you know the sound is PERFECT on thelegaledge & the pics is a little bigger. Also the name & title of the witness flashes underneath the video!

[bearwds]

OMG..I just enlarged my screen..and yiks..this agent looks so young like a puppy to me..this guy is rather good looking...if you like that sort..

Maybe I am feeling my age at this point!!

LMS
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STEADY Lynda.

It means nothing that you grew up with a hula-hoop.

To another Poster....The jury WILL have their own transcripts to follow along. Also will be on "The Elmo". Judge Glass nixed the "mugshots" showing who was talking on the tape. Too bad about that.


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Sorry to quote myself but just wanted to let you know the sound is PERFECT on thelegaledge & the pics is a little bigger. Also the name & title of the witness flashes underneath the video!


TY cherylt..have saved to favs..also noted they have downloaded items of interest..tons of them..maybe you should post this link on the link thread..or I will..but you should get the kudos!!

LMS:D

[Lyndawitha"Y]

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STEADY Lynda.

It means nothing that you grew up with a hula-hoop


bearwds

OMG..now how did you know I owned a peach colored Hula-Hoop..I maybe I should be paranoid..LOL!!!..

Thankyou tho..it only means I am not dead when I can appreciate a good lookin guy!!..Wonder what size shoes he wears..hum..wonder what size shirt (Neck size) he wears?????

LOL.......LMS:punch:

[bearwds]

Was going to tell bearwds that I was feeling a little crush myself. JK LOL
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:cool:

Funny EmuArt. :lol:

Maybe we could arrange a double-date.

...har


bearwds

[cherylt]

TY cherylt..have saved to favs..also noted they have downloaded items of interest..tons of them..maybe you should post this link on the link thread..or I will..but you should get the kudos!!

LMS:D

I posted this to links, Lynda. Thanks for telling me too! I kind of thought it would have been there already...

[legalmania]

OMG..I just enlarged my screen..and yiks..this agent looks so young like a puppy to me..this guy is rather good looking...if you like that sort..

Maybe I am feeling my age at this point!!

LMS

You can't be that old, he's no where near puppy maybe his middle 30's.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I posted this to links, Lynda. Thanks for telling me too! I kind of thought it would have been there already...

:D:seeya:..LMS

[legalmania]

Oh no I see Harvey Levin coming into the picture.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

You can't be that old, he's no where near puppy maybe his middle 30's.

I wish..I have kids in their 30's and I started late having chittlins..!!LOL..
I did have a BF 15 yrs younger than myself at one time..so do appreciate...Humm.memories...Isnt there a song about that??LOL

LMShammer

[legalmania]

wonder if he realizes we are talking about him on the internet, he looks like he is blushing to me. :tongue:

Well he's out of my jurisdiction I don't care. He has a receding hairline and wrinkles so there.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

wonder if he realizes we are talking about him on the internet, he looks like he is blushing to me. :tongue:

MUMM.He's got dimples..love his affect!!!..I got room for his shoes..hummmmBad Girl:punch:

LMS

[legalmania]

I wish..I have kids in their 30's and I started late having chittlins..!!LOL..
I did have a BF 15 yrs younger than myself at one time..so do appreciate...Humm.memories...Isnt there a song about that??LOL

LMShammer

My old saying is it doesn't matter how old it's how you look.

[bearwds]

You can't be that old, he's no where near puppy maybe his middle 30's.
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My Gawd Woman.... Lynda still has her olde peach hula-hoop.

I'm just past crank phones.

Detective, with 10 years experience on the LVPD seems to have very tired eyes. Prob seen a lot.


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

My old saying is it doesn't matter how old it's how you look.

Darn it all anyways..:punch:..Dont care what his age is..or how he looks..(cough sputter)..he is bringing in all sorts of good evidence in..goodness..he tweaking his wedding band!!
LMShammer

[legalmania]

I love TMZ :hat:

They asked such really stupid questions sometimes it makes it funny. Is the guy with the long blonde hair Fabios son?

[bearwds]

OOPS....

Detective opening and displaying evidence clothing.

No gloves.

I know that doesn't mean anything but it's a nice touch for for the jury.


bearwds

[legalmania]

Did he just wipe his nose with his hand. Yuk don't shake his hand.

[legalmania]

OOPS....

Detective opening and displaying evidence clothing.

No gloves.

I know that doesn't mean anything but it's a nice touch for for the jury.


bearwds

He needs a tissue not gloves.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

My old saying is it doesn't matter how old it's how you look.

Hannnnggggg Wrong!!!..it's doesnt matter how old you..its how you feel...LOL..be that as it may..I know my limitations now..doesnt stop me from fantasizing...LOL..This youngin is bringing physical evidence into evidence...please concentrate..guys..I am ROFLMA with the commaraderi here..tears in my eyes..!!..But this stuff is IMORPTANT..
:punch:Isnt it??


LMS

[Details]

Since the clothing in question is not to be tested for DNA, blood spatter, or any of the other wonderful fluids we see in the cases that usually are broadcast, I don't see any reason for any particular handling. This is just clothing, the only question is does it match that in the videotape. Unless the detective has paint or dye on his hands, touching it will do nothing to change it's evidentiary value.

[cherylt]

Hannnnggggg Wrong!!!..it's doesnt matter how old you..its how you feel...LOL..be that as it may..I know my limitations now..doesnt stop me from fantasizing...LOL..This youngin is bringing physical evidence into evidence...please concentrate..guys..I am ROFLMA with the commaraderi here..tears in my eyes..!!..But this stuff is IMORPTANT..
:punch:Isnt it??


LMS


Ok, Mrs. LaFabre... :)

[legalmania]

I can't see. My eyes, my eyes.

[legalmania]

Since the clothing in question is not to be tested for DNA, blood spatter, or any of the other wonderful fluids we see in the cases that usually are broadcast, I don't see any reason for any particular handling. This is just clothing, the only question is does it match that in the videotape. Unless the detective has paint or dye on his hands, touching it will do nothing to change it's evidentiary value.

I think it was sarcasm.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Ok, Mrs. LaFabre... :)

LOL..Now that my flustered period is over..LOL..I will get professional once again..We are now looking at the evidence..Personally the clothing is not so evidenciary..since no forensics are important..The TAPES will tell the story..at least thats the way I take it..

BTW..no one answered my previous question..Will court be hapening on Friday?

LMS:shrug:

[Topher]

Well, since you were the one who brought up Sidney and Justin Simpson and that you think "those children deserve everything" ...

Do/Did Sidney and Justin really need or want the proceeds from the book OJ was going to publish called "If I Did It" until the Goldmans succeeded in preventing OJ from making money off that?

Isn't the Brown Estate actually the estate of Nicole? Isn't the Brown Estate also part of the civil suit award? And are Sidney and Justin not the main beneficiaries of that estate? IF so, then it is their very own father, OJ, who with all the hiding of his assets is depriving them from their rightful inheritance.
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It is my understanding that Simpson got a $700,000 non-refundable advance on the book. So he still made quite a bit of money, even though he lost the rights to the Goldman's...

Topher

[bearwds]

He needs a tissue not gloves.
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Ewwww....!!! Don't you hate that ?? I watch for that in these political rallies. Candidate takes a healthy swipe at a load, then starts to shake hands with supporters.


As to gloves... Maybe putting on gloves and making a big production, like they don't fit...would be a bit much:no::biggrin:


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

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It is my understanding that Simpson got a $700,000 non-refundable advance on the book. So he still made quite a bit of money, even though he lost the rights to the Goldman's...

Topher

Since you mentioned that $$$....it just crossed my mind....Lawyers have the ability to keep money "In Trust" which therefore> hides money from a particular person...HUMMMM, I wonder if the Goldmans have traced that $700,000.00..and just where it went to!!!!

LMS

[cherylt]

LOL..Now that my flustered period is over..LOL..I will get professional once again..We are now looking at the evidence..Personally the clothing is not so evidenciary..since no forensics are important..The TAPES will tell the story..at least thats the way I take it..

BTW..no one answered my previous question..Will court be hapening on Friday?

LMS:shrug:


Hmmm, I haven't heard of a truncated week for this trial. I haven't watched any IS updates yet, so when/if I find out, I'll let you know. Unless someone else knows the answer 1st.

[cherylt]

I can't see. My eyes, my eyes.

??? OK - please let me in on it.

[bearwds]

Since the clothing in question is not to be tested for DNA, blood spatter, or any of the other wonderful fluids we see in the cases that usually are broadcast, I don't see any reason for any particular handling. This is just clothing, the only question is does it match that in the videotape. Unless the detective has paint or dye on his hands, touching it will do nothing to change it's evidentiary value.
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Aww... Details, you missed my point. Putting on gloves and treating evidence with extraordinary care is primarly for the jury's benefit.

A show.

I guess you missed the Spector trial. I think the bailiff wore them.

Just kidding, in case anyone missed it.


bearwds

[legalmania]

??? OK - please let me in on it.

The light hitting the white display hurt my eyes #1 and #2 it's way to small.

[legalmania]

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Aww... Details, you missed my point. Putting on gloves and treating evidence with extraordinary care is primarly for the jury's benefit.

A show.

I guess you missed the Spector trial. I think the bailiff wore them.

Just kidding, in case anyone missed it.


bearwds

I got it bearwds I said you were being sarcastic.

[legalmania]

By Pia. I have to go too. My kids are home from school.

Have a good one.

[cherylt]

The light hitting the white display hurt my eyes #1 and #2 it's way to small.

Ohhh, I'm glad I missed that!!

[Details]

I got it bearwds I said you were being sarcastic.I got it in her post - she said that it was just a show - I wasn't sure if you were taking it seriously suggesting a tissue. I was just saying, even as a show, I don't think the jury is that credulous to buy into a show with that type of evidence - it'd be too over the top, it'd look like a show - JMO.

[bearwds]

I got it bearwds I said you were being sarcastic.
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Yeah legalmania, saw that and thanx. It's really hard to convey sarcastic comments without being misunderstood.

One tends to think other people are on the same wavelength.

And I KNOW that isn't true.

Give myself a :punch: here.

BREAK


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Thank you, Topher.

Gee, can't help but wonder if some of that $700,000 book advance OJ got from his book "If I Did It" is paying for Sidney and Justin's college expenses.

That OJ ... what a prince of a guy.:flamemad:

Me thinks that 700,000.00 didnt see the light of day for those kids..I think most of it went to debts he owes to his lawyers and cash under the table...which IRS knows nothing about...Which I think they should if not audit Galanter's "In-Trust Accounts" and dispersals...HUM... I'd bet there are alot of shenanigans goings on there!!! Gives a new meaning to lawyers honesty...versus protecting clients!!!

LMS:eek:

[legalmania]

I got it in her post - she said that it was just a show - I wasn't sure if you were taking it seriously suggesting a tissue. I was just saying, even as a show, I don't think the jury is that credulous to buy into a show with that type of evidence - it'd be too over the top, it'd look like a show - JMO.

No I was serious about the tissue, then he wipe his nose again with his hand and then licked his mustache. Yuk

[bearwds]

I got it in her post - she said that it was just a show - I wasn't sure if you were taking it seriously suggesting a tissue. I was just saying, even as a show, I don't think the jury is that credulous to buy into a show with that type of evidence - it'd be too over the top, it'd look like a show - JMO.
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Oh my Details, you have much more faith in the general public than I do.

As evidenced by the political situation today,

Fill out the following:

"The bridge to ________"
"Winston tastes good like a cigarette_______"
"If it don't fit, you must _____"

There, hand in your papers....lol Bet you got 100%

Point being, we have a society that has been dumbed down and looks for the slogan or quick fix. Lawyers have to realize that when they are presenting a show. Yes, I meant show. It's a production and woe be to the attorney that forgets that.

<offa soapbox>...lol


bearwds

[legalmania]

Me thinks that 700,000.00 didnt see the light of day for those kids..I think most of it went to debts he owes to his lawyers and cash under the table...which IRS knows nothing about...Which I think they should if not audit Galanter's "In-Trust Accounts" and dispersals...HUM... I'd bet there are alot of shenanigans goings on there!!! Gives a new meaning to lawyers honesty...versus protecting clients!!!

LMS:eek:

They all have accountants they don't sit around the dinner table with a paper and calculator everything gets deposited into the accounts of the accountant then they disperse it.

[cherylt]

No I was serious about the tissue, then he wipe his nose again with his hand and then licked his mustache. Yuk


Sounds hot!

barf

[legalmania]

Sounds hot!

barf

Ya a real class act.

[bearwds]

Sounds hot!

barf
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Funny stuff there cheryl. Wait until you see what he does next...


bearwds

[Lyndawitha"Y]

They all have accountants they don't sit around the dinner table with a paper and calculator everything gets deposited into the accounts of the accountant then they disperse it.

And....???? what dos that mean???Accounting firms are on the up and up across the table?? Sorry I have seen too many fiasco's..wrong doings where accounting firms go..accountants are and can be in the same league as attny's or underworld where money's are concerned..or where accounts go..there are the books..then there is "THE BOOKS"..Dont forget the downfall of the Mafia????!!!

LMS

[legalmania]

And....???? what dos that man???Accounting firms are on the up and up across the tabl???Sorry I have seen to many fiasco's..wrong doings here accounting firms go..accountants are can be in the same league as attny's or underworld where moey's are conerned..or where accounts go..there are the books..them is "THE BOOKS"..Dont forget the downfall of the Mafia????!!!

LMS

The mafia now you are showing your age. I don't know about there but here we call it organize crime.

[legalmania]

We get it just play the tape. On no cross. Tape tomorrow?

[Details]

Cross time!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

The mafia now you are showing your age. I don't know about there but here we call it organize crime.

LOL....Up here it's termed "Creative Accounting"..in otherwords..there is always unscrutable accountants who can make magic happen...but claim don know nuttin..only go by info given..and so on and so on..I know..and chose not to follow that venue...but have witnessed it going on!!!..It's like waiting for the second shoe to DROP!!!..Unfortunately some rather large accounting firms have gone down the tubes over this practice..!! Trust funds where Lawyers are concerned can be abused like any other venue!! and I know for a fact it goes on..dont condone..but know it happens!!

OJ's association with Yale Galanter only solidifies those thoughts in my mind..There is no way people can hide big bucks like OJ has and not have HELP!!!

LMS

LMS

[Details]

It's all "are you a linquist, special training in voice recognition?" junk - hmmm - how about the same training we all get - 18 years growing up, plus every minute of every day pretty nearly? You don't have to be a linguist to listen to a tape.


Awww, going for the folksy, just lil old me, aren't long words difficult appeal to the jury. "Surreptitious" versus "secret".

[CourtsideVue]

Did that last 10-minute break run really long??? I stepped away to throw a chicken casserole together and it seems I didn't miss much. So how long was that break?

[Lyndawitha"Y]

It's all "are you a linquist, special training in voice recognition?" junk - hmmm - how about the same training we all get - 18 years growing up, plus every minute of every day pretty nearly? You don't have to be a linguist to listen to a tape.

Good Golly Miss Molly....Mr. Bryson has to get a smack on the side of his head...He is soooo soooo exaspirating!!!..I think Judge Glass will put a stop if he goes on and on..enough already!!

LMS:cuss:

HummmmWhats your training on"Chain of Custody"////hummmmhammer

[Lyndawitha"Y]

There you..Tmz got the tapes before you did...HUMMM..therefore they are not addmiale..nor to be trusted..Geesh..give me a flippen a break!!

BTW..Mr.Bryson is a young pup too...but for me I would have him..Sorrrrrryyyy:punch: put down...sorry!!:punch:

LMS

[CourtsideVue]

This cute witness looks like he wants to laugh in Mr. Bryson's face. Like he knows his questions are stupid and redundant. <sigh>

[cherylt]

Good Golly Miss Molly....Mr. Bryson has to get a smack on the side of his head...He is soooo soooo exaspirating!!!..I think Judge Glass will put a stop if he goes on and on..enough already!!

LMS:cuss:

HummmmWhats your training on"Chain of Custody"////hummmmhammer

ITA! This guys is super obnoxious & he is just as bad as Albee! He makes me grit my teeth - hard! To me, he also seems disrespectful to the judge at times too! :cuss:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

This cute witness looks like he wants to laugh in Mr. Bryson's face. Like he knows his questions are stupid and redundant. <sigh>
ROFLMAO..I got the same drift!..and as for myself..I was rumminating...can you visulize this guy dealing with interrogating his wife/significant other as to their dayz activities???LOL

LMS

[cherylt]

i just got back from dinner.

america's got talent coming on here in about 30 minutes. i know this is off topic but i want the two black male fiddlers to win, if not then the old guy who does the frank sinatra singing.

i don't know who this lawyer is who is questioning right now. :shrug:

Bryson, for C. Stewart. You probably won't forget him after this!!

ETA - Why do some Defense atty's HAVE to be so confrontational? Do they really think that wins them points with the jury? IMO, it is just a put off, especially when doing so with a sworn law enforcement employee!

[CourtsideVue]

HOW ... MANY ... TIMES ... DID ... YOU ... BLINK ... YOUR ... EYES ...

This lawyer is making me :cuss:

[Details]

HOW ... MANY ... TIMES ... DID ... YOU ... BLINK ... YOUR ... EYES ...

This lawyer is making me :cuss:DID ... YOU ... RECIEVE ... TRAINING ... IN ... OPTHAMOLOGY ... IN ... POLICE ... SCHOOL?


Brother - he's asking for the 50th time, if he's got training in linguistics or speech analysis!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Bryson, for C. Stewart. You probably won't forget him after this!!

ETA - Why do some Defense atty's HAVE to be so confrontational? Do they really think that wins them points with the jury? IMO, it is just a put off, especially when doing so with a sworn law enforcement employee!


Not that I need to know for further knowledge..but I would really like to know..just who this bozzo is..his name is bryson..and just what is his history?...Come on guys with judicial access..find out who this bozzo is???PLEEEZE!!I have run into guys like this in my lifetime..and just laughed..and got out of their way..as at that time..I thought they would EMPLODE!!

LMS:D

[vonna]

HOW ... MANY ... TIMES ... DID ... YOU ... BLINK ... YOUR ... EYES ...

This lawyer is making me :cuss:


Agree about Bryson. Having him for an attorney is grounds to find Stewart guilty!!!!!!

[bearwds]

Ok... That's enough for me today.

I realize this is important stuff, but it could be presented in a much more concise way.

Will check in tomorrow.

Bye all and good conversations today.


bearwds:seeya:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Ok... That's enough for me today.

I realize this is important stuff, but it could be presented in a much more concise way.

Will check in tomorrow.

Bye all and good conversations today.


bearwds:seeya:

Good Nite bearwds.my fellow hula hooper..LOL

LMS:seeya:

[legalmania]

good night posters. i can't take anymore of this. hammer

see you tomorrow. :seeya:

see ya tomorrow poodlestar

[legalmania]

Not that I need to know for further knowledge..but I would really like to know..just who this bozzo is..his name is bryson..and just what is his history?...Come on guys with judicial access..find out who this bozzo is???PLEEEZE!!I have run into guys like this in my lifetime..and just laughed..and got out of their way..as at that time..I thought they would EMPLODE!!

LMS:D


They are out there by the thousands and their taking over.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I have caught up with the posts. Y'all are fun but I see I have missed nothing important in the courtroom. We're still watching paint dry.



Nooooo this is not paint drying...this witness is sooo cute..and it is the defense attny who is creating a circus (round and round and round)..Mr. Bryson..and I want to give him an attitude adgustement..personally!! and not nicely..:punch:

Just look at this guys face..dont ya just want to take his face in hand...LOL

LMS

[Details]

I think we're switching to a new attorney?

Yep, one of the better ones - ah, he's smooth, I think he just complimented him on his suit.

[cherylt]

Alright, he is being WAY too nice, what is Yale up to? It does "seem" he is giving this cop the proper respect but I'm waiting for the "catch." Jumpy due to Bryson...

[legalmania]

Alright, he is being WAY too nice, what is Yale up to? It does "seem" he is giving this cop the proper respect but I'm waiting for the "catch." Jumpy due to Bryson...

The witness is starting to ask the attorney the questions now that's funny.

[Details]

It's weird, but so far, Yale seems to be a good clean defense attorney - just trying to get the facts out. I'm sure that image, that presentation helps the jurors pay more attention to his cross than the other attorney who seems a lot more of a jerk trying to hide anything he can. We'll see how it goes - but so far, he seems pretty clean. A few little tricks, but nothing out of line.

[CourtsideVue]

O.J. is talking to himself again. I wonder if he's just singing to himself.

[Details]

Those chairs for the attorneys and defendants look uncomfortable for 8+ hours a day.

[CourtsideVue]

Those chairs for the attorneys and defendants look uncomfortable for 8+ hours a day.

Was it Spector who had to have a specially designed chair??

[pebblepup]

Anyone hear Marta whisper "she's a disaster"? LOL was she talking about one of her coworkers?

[cherylt]

why are they going home early?

Good question. I believe an issue came up per Yale that he wanted to take up to sidebar w/ the judge. From that convo, the Judge must have discerned the issue was too lengthy to keep the jury there & they must talk about it w/ ample time. Hmmm, what could it be?

and I agree w/ others that the dichotomy of Galanter & Bryson is very apparent. Wonder if that will affect the juror's view of their clients. I always liked Yale (as far as any Defense atty-and a bit shocked when he took on OJ as a client years ago). He does seem fair and non condescending. I was waiting for the veritable "other shoe to drop" before but maybe that is just who he is. He doesn't need to be obnoxious and stand-offish to get his point(s) across.

Well good night all. See ya in the am!!

:seeya:

[CourtsideVue]

Will someone please tell Loni and Marta that the judge was referring to not wanting to contaminate THE JURY, not THE ROOM!

JEEZ!

[AnnInOhio]

Singing the jailhouse blues. Who said that. Oh legal so inappropriate.

Finally, we've lightened you up! See, nobody's going to jail because of what is posted here! What the jury sees, hears and thinks is not affected by our banter.

[Topher]

Since you mentioned that $$$....it just crossed my mind....Lawyers have the ability to keep money "In Trust" which therefore> hides money from a particular person...HUMMMM, I wonder if the Goldmans have traced that $700,000.00..and just where it went to!!!!

LMS
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The massive negative public response when news of the book was was announced was used as an excuse for firing the HarperCollins editor Judith Regan who put the repugnant deal together. It might be that her firing had more to do with the manner in which the huge advance was paid to Simpson, and hoping to avoid any liability on HarperCollins part in a conspiracy to avoid paying any of the funds towards the Goldman's judgement. Ms. Regan and Simpson worked out the details of the advance payment, both knowing that there was a huge judgement against his earnings. Both should have been arrested at that time for intentionally conspiring to avoid payment of the judgement. I do not believe that the statute of limitations for their criminal act has run out. There was a statement at the time that the advance was gone as soon as it was paid. They should both be charged, while this trial is still going on. If Simpson, by some miracle is found not guilty of the major charges of this trial, another trial waiting in the wings would be poetic justice...

Topher

[callmetree]

GOOD NIGHT ALL. THANKS FOR KEEPING THE THREAD INFORMATIVE. ALSO THE LIGHTNESS THAT WENT ON.REALLY ENJOYED THAT PART THE BEST. SEE U ALL IN THE MORNING,:seeya: I THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO SLEEP SINCE I HAVEN'T BEEN ON HERE MUCH TODAY. NO THUNDER BOOMER HEADACHE.:D HAD TO END IN ALL CAPITOLS SINCE I STARTED THAT WAY. YES I'M A STRANGE ONE. BUT ONE GOOD THING CAME OUT OF MY S UP. TALKED WITH ALOT OF VERY NICE PEOPLE HERE TODAY.;)

[callmetree]

Night. We did have fun today. Good posters...

only wish i could have been here more. but i guess that thing we call work gets in the way. think we could all get a leave of absence?:D