9/16 evening thread

[forensicfan]

Originally Posted by CiaoBella
Right, and I have to say if a live Caylee is found, I hope the Anthonys sue the crap out of the Police, seriously. Its like as soon as they saw how delusional Casey was about going so far as to go to Universal to visit her office, which is mind blowing at best, it was just like, hey, the kid is more than likely dead, this chick is crazy. I really dont believe they have evidence of a dead Caylee. People have been locked away for a lot less, if they had a hair that was Caylees, and it had the death band, what more do they need? I really am not buying they are just trying to be thorough anymore, its a travesty Casey has not been charged. moo

I just wanted to answer one thing about the hair evidence. I believe that hair can only be determined to be microscopically similar to that of a person but DNA cannot be extracted from hair without tissue attached to it. That's in accordance with numerous Forensic Files episodes I have seen. The air samples show decomposition in the trunk but I do not believe they can extract DNA from the air either. Not sure about that but I don't think so. There was a stain that glowed under blacklight but they never did say what the stain was. Could have been the chloroform that was found?? NG said that as soon as charges are filed, the defense can file a motion for a speedy trial. Therefore, they are not likely going to file charges until they are ready to go to court.

[st777jo]

Originally Posted by CiaoBella
Right, and I have to say if a live Caylee is found, I hope the Anthonys sue the crap out of the Police, seriously. Its like as soon as they saw how delusional Casey was about going so far as to go to Universal to visit her office, which is mind blowing at best, it was just like, hey, the kid is more than likely dead, this chick is crazy. I really dont believe they have evidence of a dead Caylee. People have been locked away for a lot less, if they had a hair that was Caylees, and it had the death band, what more do they need? I really am not buying they are just trying to be thorough anymore, its a travesty Casey has not been charged. moo

Sue the police? Are you for real? What exactly would you have done differently? Do you also think that Caylee is the "crime" in that area? I believe most of the people on here want Caylee found more than the Anthony's.

Who are you going to call if you ever need help? The Anthony's?

[Pebbles]

Earlier in this thread I posted that our six o'clock news (WFTV channel 9, Orlando) stated that two more men were now helping JB and his team of bodyguards. They were both seen in the garage getting out of the red truck.


Now watching the tape on NG of Casey being released from jail today, I see one of these men. He is behind one of the bodyguards, wearing a suit, dark sunglasses, he gets into the passenger side of the truck. The second guy drove the truck, we don't see him. Wonder where the Anthonys and JB are getting the money to pay these two new guys, plus the useless bodyguards.



I beat Casey must think she has gone to heaven, being alone in a truck with three men protecting her from the big, bad media and LE. It doesn't get any better than that for Casey! Wonder if Baez held her hand all the way home?

[Oregongal]

Coming to the new thread, I see the last one is about done.
Can someone please post the link to the web cam for me please?
TIA

[steffaroob4]

Coming to the new thread, I see the last one is about done.
Can someone please post the link to the web cam for me please?
TIA

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[concernedmom]

More Movie Star Than Mournful Mom.

[Oregongal]

PS- Thank you ForensicFan for the new thread.

[Oregongal]

Thanks Steff :seeya:

[steffaroob4]

Woman Accused Of Kidnapping Caylee Speaks Out (http://www.wesh.com/news/17486377/detail.html)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Homeless and without a job, Zenaida Gonzalez sat in her hotel room and took comfort in the arms of her youngest daughter...

[cassidy]

WOW those lights pointed at the house are REALLY bright.

[Oregongal]

Well, geez, that is not showing what's really happening. On NG they just said and showed the police and protesters are out there now. I'm beginning to distrust this cam big time.
:mad:

[concernedmom]

Woman Accused Of Kidnapping Caylee Speaks Out (http://www.wesh.com/news/17486377/detail.html)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Homeless and without a job, Zenaida Gonzalez sat in her hotel room and took comfort in the arms of her youngest daughter...

Someone should call Cindy and ask if they would share some of the 20/20 money with her since their daughter ruined her life. This lady still has her kid and could use the money.

[pebblepup]

WOW those lights pointed at the house are REALLY bright.

Strange angle for the camera too.

[steffaroob4]

Woman Accused Of Kidnapping Caylee Speaks Out (http://www.wesh.com/news/17486377/detail.html)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Homeless and without a job, Zenaida Gonzalez sat in her hotel room and took comfort in the arms of her youngest daughter...


The June 17 record of Gonzalez’s visit is on file at the apartment office.

Why would ZG go to see an apt in the complex where the day before she stole Caylee???

[Boxer]

I hope the Anthonys sue the police too!:D

[msgatorslayer]

Woman Accused Of Kidnapping Caylee Speaks Out (http://www.wesh.com/news/17486377/detail.html)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Homeless and without a job, Zenaida Gonzalez sat in her hotel room and took comfort in the arms of her youngest daughter...

From the link...

'She had to convince investigators that they had the wrong Zenaida, that she did not know Casey Anthony or Caylee.

A turning point came when detectives showed Anthony a picture of Gonzalez and she did not recognize the woman she claimed cared for her child.'

It sounds like LE was putting the hammer to her until Casey was shown her picture and said it wasn't her.

I feel bad for her. She lost her job. Another one of Casey's many victims.:mad:

[shelbar53]

oh sure, the first time she talks to caylee after a month and she DOESNT say...hi honey, mommy loves you and misses you. I pick up my granddaughter from school every day and i aways say that.....i have noticed lately that i kiss her and tell her she is my little gift.

[trich]

I don't understand why anyone thinks the LE is trying to bring false charges against Casey.
She and only she did not report her daughter missing for 31 days.
so here LE is trying to find her daughter by asking questions to try and find a lead to where Caylee might be.
Considering she had to have been the last person to see her child it
should be obvious that she should have some answers.
But what do they get but lie after lie after lie.
who else do you think should be being questioned at this point in time of the investigation.
She and only she stole from her grandfather, her parents , her friends
Why do some not think she is quilty of any of this?
What kind of mom goes partying when her daughter has been "kidnapped"
How do you ignore all the lies she has been caught in ...she has been recorded lying about just about everything.
Her friends have taken lie detector tests and their information seems to
have panned out.
Notice none of the Anthony's have offered to take one.

[~jomomma~]

i've been thinking...

IF cindy knew casey wasn't working she was probably providing spending money for her.

but...i've been thinking that it's possible casey was committing crimes for a while now. we know she ripped her friends and family off. if it came that easy for her to do it to her own family, why not other people?

she could've been breaking into cars, homes, etc.
not to mention stealing checks/routing numbers, etc.

[cassidy]

:shrug:Mine is frozen also....


Frozen here too.

[day2day]

I hope the Anthonys sue the police too!:D

Thats next weeks lawsuit hammer
jmo

[msgatorslayer]

Well, geez, that is not showing what's really happening. On NG they just said and showed the police and protesters are out there now. I'm beginning to distrust this cam big time.
:mad:

I busted the Cam last week.

A huge feeder band from Ike completely covered Orange County. Yet, it wasn't raining on the cam.

IMO, the cam is there all the time, but they don't always turn it on. They sometimes play old feeds.

[Boxer]

not watching....lol

I've seen enough of that show.

[steffaroob4]

Frozen here too.

it's working for me:cool:

[Boxer]

Thats next weeks lawsuit hammer
jmo



It will be great. Seeing Nejame or whoever squawking about the poor Anthonys and the way they've been treated. I hope the judge'f first question is Where Is Caylee.

[Oregongal]

it's working for me:cool:

Are you seeing protesters and police?

[steffaroob4]

The June 17 record of Gonzalez’s visit is on file at the apartment office.

Why would ZG go to see an apt in the complex where the day before she stole Caylee???



Why would ZG go to see an apt in the complex where the day before she stole Caylee???
Wow, that makes a lot of sense to me.

[shelbar53]

i've been thinking...

IF cindy knew casey wasn't working she was probably providing spending money for her.

but...i've been thinking that it's possible casey was committing crimes for a while now. we know she ripped her friends and family off. if it came that easy for her to do it to her own family, why not other people?

she could've been breaking into cars, homes, etc.
not to mention stealing checks/routing numbers, etc.

thats probably why she didnt maintain friendships for longer than several months...they caught on to her stealing and lying so they stopped hanging around with her. and I bet after she slept with men she stole money from their wallets.

[Boxer]

thats probably why she didnt maintain friendships for longer than several months...they caught on to her stealing and lying so they stopped hanging around with her. and I bet after she slept with men she stole money from their wallets.

that, and her obvious pork addiction

[Good4u]

bringing this over here:
Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 50

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayosunshine
Casey would have had the required birth certificate, she was Caylee's mother. Casey could have written a letter. The airline might have screwed it's manifest list of passengers. Better yet, no need for birth certificate or letter, a corporate jet may have been the mode of transport.
I am not convinced that Caylee is not in Puerto Rico. Convince me!

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
Amy just passed a lie detector test. Who took Caylee to Puerto Rico? The FBI is in Puerto Rico (being a U.S. territory) one would think they looked into this possibility, as well as any possible airline security footage, interviewing persons on the flight, checking flight manifests and so on.

You need to convince me that the ever so selfish and narcissitic Casey would spend one day in prison when all she had to do was tell LE that her daughter was currently in the custody of her paternal grandparents. As the mother Casey had every right in the world to do this...nothing illegal about it whatsoever. Explain to me why Casey would go to jail for this?

[msgatorslayer]

i've been thinking...

IF cindy knew casey wasn't working she was probably providing spending money for her.

but...i've been thinking that it's possible casey was committing crimes for a while now. we know she ripped her friends and family off. if it came that easy for her to do it to her own family, why not other people?

she could've been breaking into cars, homes, etc.
not to mention stealing checks/routing numbers, etc.

What we're missing is all the details of the money Casey stole from Cindy. Was it current? Just the month she was MIA? Or was it an extended period of time. Also, was it really 'stolen' money? The car wasn't really 'stolen' but Cindy used it as a manipulation tool to get Casey to show her Caylee.

Amy says that she never seen Casey with cash. Always plastic. In Casey's interview with LE, she talks about taking advantage of her Mom. How, she'd use her Moms money/cards to buy things, even when she had her own money.

I wouldn't put it past Casey to break into cars and such. Steal things from her friends. Raid their coin jars.

[day2day]

The Anthony's are payin for the bodyguards. I sure would like to know where their cash is comin from. ...pfft
WHERE are CAYLEE'S BODYGUARDS?!

jmo

[concernedmom]

The Anthony's are payin for the bodyguards. I sure would like to know where their cash is comin from. ...pfft
WHERE are CAYLEE'S BODYGUARDS?!

jmo


They have a cash cow now thats bring in money for them. Its called a child missing by a mother that doesnt report her for 31 days. The intrigue.

She is selling her grandaughter out.

[ruth66]

Originally Posted by CiaoBella
Right, and I have to say if a live Caylee is found, I hope the Anthonys sue the crap out of the Police, seriously. Its like as soon as they saw how delusional Casey was about going so far as to go to Universal to visit her office, which is mind blowing at best, it was just like, hey, the kid is more than likely dead, this chick is crazy. I really dont believe they have evidence of a dead Caylee. People have been locked away for a lot less, if they had a hair that was Caylees, and it had the death band, what more do they need? I really am not buying they are just trying to be thorough anymore, its a travesty Casey has not been charged. moo

Sue the police? Are you for real? What exactly would you have done differently? Do you also think that Caylee is the "crime" in that area? I believe most of the people on here want Caylee found more than the Anthony's.

Who are you going to call if you ever need help? The Anthony's?

I say the500+ Zenaida Gonzales' need to wait until Casey gets convicted and then sue the Anthony's for defamation of character and making false claims (not a lawyer and not sure law would allow it). Let these people get the $$ that the Anthony's seem to think they are going to live the good life on....

[barskin&co.]

bringing this over here:
Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 50

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayosunshine
Casey would have had the required birth certificate, she was Caylee's mother. Casey could have written a letter. The airline might have screwed it's manifest list of passengers. Better yet, no need for birth certificate or letter, a corporate jet may have been the mode of transport.
I am not convinced that Caylee is not in Puerto Rico. Convince me!

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
Amy just passed a lie detector test. Who took Caylee to Puerto Rico? The FBI is in Puerto Rico (being a U.S. territory) one would think they looked into this possibility, as well as any possible airline security footage, interviewing persons on the flight, checking flight manifests and so on.

You need to convince me that the ever so selfish and narcissitic Casey would spend one day in prison when all she had to do was tell LE that her daughter was currently in the custody of her paternal grandparents. As the mother Casey had every right in the world to do this...nothing illegal about it whatsoever. Explain to me why Casey would go to jail for this?

Bringing my reply over:

We should not feel obliged to talk someone else out of a crazy, groundless theory. It's like proving a negative.

[Boxer]

Plus, she's about a half inch deep. Once you've seen her pole dance and throw up in the parking lot, there's not much else to see. I'm sure she's a crashing bore to try to converse with.


I saw one step further than that in the parking lot in a pic. I bet they just kept her around for laughs.....and to make beer runs.

[msgatorslayer]

I say the500+ Zenaida Gonzales' need to wait until Casey gets convicted and then sue the Anthony's for defamation of character and making false claims (not a lawyer and not sure law would allow it). Let these people get the $$ that the Anthony's seem to think they are going to live the good life on....

Excellent suggestion.

Other Mommy killers who tried blaming it on someone else never gave a name. Just description, as they claimed it was a 'stranger'.

I say, make em pay for pulling this innocent womans name into this mess.

[Joan Weiss]

I say the500+ Zenaida Gonzales' need to wait until Casey gets convicted and then sue the Anthony's for defamation of character and making false claims (not a lawyer and not sure law would allow it). Let these people get the $$ that the Anthony's seem to think they are going to live the good life on....Now there's a positive thought...

[kakax]

that, and her obvious pork addiction


rofl!!:biggrin:

[DeeN]

Case In Point.

Originally Posted by CiaoBella
Right, and I have to say if a live Caylee is found, I hope the Anthonys sue the crap out of the Police, seriously. Its like as soon as they saw how delusional Casey was about going so far as to go to Universal to visit her office, which is mind blowing at best, it was just like, hey, the kid is more than likely dead, this chick is crazy. I really dont believe they have evidence of a dead Caylee. People have been locked away for a lot less, if they had a hair that was Caylees, and it had the death band, what more do they need? I really am not buying they are just trying to be thorough anymore, its a travesty Casey has not been charged. moo

Sue the police? Are you for real? What exactly would you have done differently? Do you also think that Caylee is the "crime" in that area? I believe most of the people on here want Caylee found more than the Anthony's.

Who are you going to call if you ever need help? The Anthony's?

[CNTM]

Cam is working, people just walked by!

[msgatorslayer]

Case In Point.

Yup! Casey, delusional? :lol: Thats funny!!

[marinewife5]

Excellent suggestion.

Other Mommy killers who tried blaming it on someone else never gave a name. Just description, as they claimed it was a 'stranger'.

I say, make em pay for pulling this innocent womans name into this mess.

casey needed to cover for caylee's absence, but didn't want to scare her family into calling LE...it had to be an "acquaintance". i think she was warming Lee up for the truth (well, quasi-truth) when she said caylee was taken by zanni. jmo

[nutterbutter]

Well, geez, that is not showing what's really happening. On NG they just said and showed the police and protesters are out there now. I'm beginning to distrust this cam big time.
:mad:
I thought I seen that on nancy grace as well.Then thought I had really lost my mind.lol
mo

[st777jo]

I say the500+ Zenaida Gonzales' need to wait until Casey gets convicted and then sue the Anthony's for defamation of character and making false claims (not a lawyer and not sure law would allow it). Let these people get the $$ that the Anthony's seem to think they are going to live the good life on....


Sounds like a winner to me.

[kakax]

Cam is working, people just walked by!

I'm in GA and I'm blinded by that light...those poor neighbors.

[Joan Weiss]

Cam is working, people just walked by!It looks like the sprinkler is on, wet sidewalk.

[CNTM]

I'm in GA and I'm blinded by that light...those poor neighbors.

I would be irate over this in my neighborhood!:flamemad: I have to get up and go to work every day and this would push me over the edge!

[martha]

I see casey is back home and living the good life. I hope by nov the le will charge her with murder if caylee is not found by that time. jmho:rose:

[Oregongal]

I thought I seen that on nancy grace as well.Then thought I had really lost my mind.lol
mo

If you did, so did I, but, seriously, they showed it on NC right behind the NG producer/reporter.

[brodysho]

So do we know why the police are there yet?

[marshmallow]

all day I've been saying the same thing. I can't get it out of my head when I think of this family.
Casey has the key to finding this child. No matter what state we find her in, Casey knows but she won't talk.
That just makes no sense. No talking and sealing the child's fate (if still alive) or talking and hopefully finding her. The only person who can change this won't.

She can , if alive, offer anything she can think of to try to find her or if deceased, help locate her remains and stop this hell her parents are in. I can't understand why she won't.

[True2Blues]

Earlier in this thread I posted that our six o'clock news (WFTV channel 9, Orlando) stated that two more men were now helping JB and his team of bodyguards. They were both seen in the garage getting out of the red truck.


Now watching the tape on NG of Casey being released from jail today, I see one of these men. He is behind one of the bodyguards, wearing a suit, dark sunglasses, he gets into the passenger side of the truck. The second guy drove the truck, we don't see him. Wonder where the Anthonys and JB are getting the money to pay these two new guys, plus the useless bodyguards.



I beat Casey must think she has gone to heaven, being alone in a truck with three men protecting her from the big, bad media and LE. It doesn't get any better than that for Casey! Wonder if Baez held her hand all the way home?

You may have answered your own question there.....

[barskin&co.]

So do we know why the police are there yet?

On Nancy Grace, the reporter said they were just there to keep the peace in the neighborhood.

[st777jo]

all day I've been saying the same thing. I can't get it out of my head when I think of this family.
Casey has the key to finding this child. No matter what state we find her in, Casey knows but she won't talk.
That just makes no sense. No talking and sealing the child's fate (if still alive) or talking and hopefully finding her. The only person who can change this won't.

She can , if alive, offer anything she can think of to try to find her or if deceased, help locate her remains and stop this hell her parents are in. I can't understand why she won't.

For real. And I can't understand mom and dad going along with it. jmo

[Good4u]

Bringing my reply over:

We should not feel obliged to talk someone else out of a crazy, groundless theory. It's like proving a negative.


I never hurts to at least TRY applied logic:shrug:

[Boxer]

all day I've been saying the same thing. I can't get it out of my head when I think of this family.
Casey has the key to finding this child. No matter what state we find her in, Casey knows but she won't talk.
That just makes no sense. No talking and sealing the child's fate (if still alive) or talking and hopefully finding her. The only person who can change this won't.

She can , if alive, offer anything she can think of to try to find her or if deceased, help locate her remains and stop this hell her parents are in. I can't understand why she won't.

I think it makes perfect sense. Casey either killed Caylee or harmed Caylee and she later died and telling would get her deeper doodoo. All the while she is shutting up, the little girl becomes less findable and testable.

[mosey2]

Do we know WHEN chloroform was searched on Casey's 'puter??:confused:

[Boxer]

Do we know WHEN chloroform was searched on Casey's 'puter??:confused:


I've not heard when:shrug:

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to begin.


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[True2Blues]

Originally Posted by CiaoBella
Right, and I have to say if a live Caylee is found, I hope the Anthonys sue the crap out of the Police, seriously. Its like as soon as they saw how delusional Casey was about going so far as to go to Universal to visit her office, which is mind blowing at best, it was just like, hey, the kid is more than likely dead, this chick is crazy. I really dont believe they have evidence of a dead Caylee. People have been locked away for a lot less, if they had a hair that was Caylees, and it had the death band, what more do they need? I really am not buying they are just trying to be thorough anymore, its a travesty Casey has not been charged. moo

I just wanted to answer one thing about the hair evidence. I believe that hair can only be determined to be microscopically similar to that of a person but DNA cannot be extracted from hair without tissue attached to it. That's in accordance with numerous Forensic Files episodes I have seen. The air samples show decomposition in the trunk but I do not believe they can extract DNA from the air either. Not sure about that but I don't think so. There was a stain that glowed under blacklight but they never did say what the stain was. Could have been the chloroform that was found?? NG said that as soon as charges are filed, the defense can file a motion for a speedy trial. Therefore, they are not likely going to file charges until they are ready to go to court.

If the hair is intact, including a root, tandem repeat analysis DNA can be determined. If only the shaft is available mitocondrial DNA can be determined.

[shelbar53]

I lived at my home for over 30 years, im in a cul-de-sac new neighbors just moved in a house down from me and parked in front of my house...I thought I was gonna have a heart attack...I was so stressed out over that...I kept looking out the window and wondering when they were gonna move their car. but it was just because they were moving in. There is no way I could handle all the circus like activity.

[kakax]

About the hand holding thing....if that had been a male, say Scott Peterson holding the hand of a female defense atty., the world would be in an uproar.

I have seen some posters say, he is just trying to protect her. Protect her by holding her hand, from what? It is sickening and a slap in the face to his wife, IMO. The body guards aren't holding her hand and they are protecting her. So unprofessional.

[mosey2]

I think it makes perfect sense. Casey either killed Caylee or harmed Caylee and she later died and telling would get her deeper doodoo. All the while she is shutting up, the little girl becomes less findable and testable.
At first I thought Casey wasnt spilling because she didnt want the body tested for drugs (tissue testing)
But now I think the child may have died violently, and the bones may show signs of trauma.

Or Casey is just really, really nuts

Or-- D) All of the above:(

MOO

[mosey2]

I've not heard when:shrug:

Thanks Boxer. I was thinking it might have been George and Cindy that tried to clean the trunk. But, I'm sure that theory's been discussed.

[rosejustrose]

Are you seeing protesters and police?


Dang, I'm having a hard enough time trying to figure out which thread we're posting on. :D

[mosey2]

About the hand holding thing....if that had been a male, say Scott Peterson holding the hand of a female defense atty., the world would be in an uproar.

I have seen some posters say, he is just trying to protect her. Protect her by holding her hand, from what? It is sickening and a slap in the face to his wife, IMO. The body guards aren't holding her hand and they are protecting her. So unprofessional.
Casey is developmentally "stuck" at around 10 years old, IMO
She must have had a tragedy around that age.

[True2Blues]

Woman Accused Of Kidnapping Caylee Speaks Out (http://www.wesh.com/news/17486377/detail.html)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Homeless and without a job, Zenaida Gonzalez sat in her hotel room and took comfort in the arms of her youngest daughter...


Casey ruins another life. The poor woman got fired from her job because of her name. Even though even Casey said she wasn't the one. Ignorant idiots are sending her Zanny the nanny hate mail. Poor woman.

[CNTM]

the cam i see has the house looking really weird tonight:shrug:
side view is there a light on in the garage?

It does look like a light through the window on the side door. I hadn't noticed that!

[CNTM]

Casey is developmentally "stuck" at around 10 years old, IMO
She must have had a tragedy around that age.

I was thinking 12, but I'll go with 10!

[Boxer]

Casey is developmentally "stuck" at around 10 years old, IMO
She must have had a tragedy around that age.


Possibly, but with a nurse for a mother and an ex deputy for a father I would think councelling would have been sought after. Cindy dodged the mental illness question with something like Casey has never been diagnosed with it. Many many people have trauma in their childhoods and teen years. Not many do this ...this total farce before the world:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

About the hand holding thing....if that had been a male, say Scott Peterson holding the hand of a female defense atty., the world would be in an uproar.

I have seen some posters say, he is just trying to protect her. Protect her by holding her hand, from what? It is sickening and a slap in the face to his wife, IMO. The body guards aren't holding her hand and they are protecting her. So unprofessional.


It's a slap in the face to women. Why do we need to be protected by overweight brownie eating dense attorneys? That was just a cute touch to make Casey seem vulnerable. Guess what? Missed the mark. With her sunglasses and "I'm a celebrity" attitude it looked like a couple despearately trying to dodge the paparazzi, ala Paris and name any guy. It really didn't look good at all. They were leaving a jailhouse not Mr. Chow's in Hollywood FGS. JMO

[kakax]

From Gretawire....


heck this out…an email with the latest from my colleague Justin Wells:

From: Wells, Justin
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:46 PM
To: Van Susteren, Greta; Cooper, Meade
Subject: DR PHIL taping casey show tomorrow

“Dr. Phil” to tape show Wednesday on Caylee Anthony case; neighbor, protesters, Mark NeJame to take part”

“Dr. Phil” on Wednesday will tape a show about the Caylee Anthony case. No air date, however, has been set.

Taking part in Los Angeles will be a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D’Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6. WKMG airs “Dr. Phil” at 7 weeknights.

The program also will look at protesters and supporters of the Anthony family.

Casey Anthony, Caylee’s tight-lipped mother, was released from jail for the third time Tuesday.

The Anthony case will be part of a show that Dr. Phil McGraw’s team calls “Behind the Headlines.”
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

[True2Blues]

Casey is developmentally "stuck" at around 10 years old, IMO
She must have had a tragedy around that age.


Someone must have told her "No" for the first time.

[mosey2]

Possibly, but with a nurse for a mother and an ex deputy for a father I would think councelling would have been sought after. Cindy dodged the mental illness question with something like Casey has never been diagnosed with it. Many many people have trauma in their childhoods and teen years. Not many do this ...this total farce before the world:shrug:
Yeah, It's not like forgetting and leaving your baby-doll out in the rain.

[Boxer]

From Gretawire....


heck this out…an email with the latest from my colleague Justin Wells:

From: Wells, Justin
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:46 PM
To: Van Susteren, Greta; Cooper, Meade
Subject: DR PHIL taping casey show tomorrow

“Dr. Phil” to tape show Wednesday on Caylee Anthony case; neighbor, protesters, Mark NeJame to take part”

“Dr. Phil” on Wednesday will tape a show about the Caylee Anthony case. No air date, however, has been set.

Taking part in Los Angeles will be a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D’Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6. WKMG airs “Dr. Phil” at 7 weeknights.

The program also will look at protesters and supporters of the Anthony family.

Casey Anthony, Caylee’s tight-lipped mother, was released from jail for the third time Tuesday.

The Anthony case will be part of a show that Dr. Phil McGraw’s team calls “Behind the Headlines.”
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/


barf is he an anonomous donor?

[rosejustrose]

Possibly, but with a nurse for a mother and an ex deputy for a father I would think councelling would have been sought after. Cindy dodged the mental illness question with something like Casey has never been diagnosed with it. Many many people have trauma in their childhoods and teen years. Not many do this ...this total farce before the world:shrug:

I think I understand what you mean. IIRC, the Anthonys moved to FL from OH when Casey was 3. According to what Rich, Cindy's brother posted, things were not good for them in OH. I suspect that they had some problems in FL also. After all, they did file for divorce. I bet Casey saw a lot of things a child shouldn't. I think Cindy's "we're perfect" approach to things probably caused "sweetheart" to withdraw to her own comfort zone and have a lot of problems. JMHO.

[FrankieBones1]

I hate to be a pest but I have about 5 Cams as favorites and I'm getting nothing on any of them.

Could you post a link?
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[barskin&co.]

I hate to be a pest but I have about 5 Cams as favorites and I'm getting nothing on any of them.

Could you post a link?
Here's a light in the window shot.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[Velouria]

that, and her obvious pork addiction


Doggone it Boxer...I'm gone all day, finally home from class, and right off the bat you have me snorting diet soda!:D

[baywench]

About the hand holding thing....if that had been a male, say Scott Peterson holding the hand of a female defense atty., the world would be in an uproar.

I have seen some posters say, he is just trying to protect her. Protect her by holding her hand, from what? It is sickening and a slap in the face to his wife, IMO. The body guards aren't holding her hand and they are protecting her. So unprofessional.

It just infuriates me....all the time whining and crying about poor put upon Casey...such a victim. Don't ya just hate it when your daughter disappears and evidence of dead body is found in your car and people think you're guilty. Wow that sucks when that happens. Just keep on feeding into the little Princess' ego, her little smirking snotting face. It's too bad if she is a sociopath since she will never feel the emotion of being behind bars the rest of her life....or hopefully the death penalty. jmo

[kakax]

Judges order denying HOA's wish to move protesters

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/news/091608injuntion.pdf



It states it has been denied without prejudice because they failed to give notice by some statute. Ugh more research to do.

[True2Blues]

Of course it was unprofessional.

But that begs the question, is JB professional to begin with or just an Opportunist trying to make his way through what could be the biggest break of his life?

I would suggest the latter. :)

Absolutely and of course just IMO.


I vote the latter too!

[kakax]

It just infuriates me....all the time whining and crying about poor put upon Casey...such a victim. Don't ya just hate it when your daughter disappears and evidence of dead body is found in your car and people think you're guilty. Wow that sucks when that happens. Just keep on feeding into the little Princess' ego, her little smirking snotting face. It's too bad if she is a sociopath since she will never feel the emotion of being behind bars the rest of her life....or hopefully the death penalty. jmo



Exactly...just like I felt with Melanie Maguire....

[Good4u]

The hand holding is way over the top. Can't think how that would be appropriate under any circumstances. Wonder what those brownies had in them?

Rosary around the neck of non Catholic? Would cause hyperventilation in many Catholics I know...

OT cute rosary story:
Once on vacation way out in Canan W. VA., a friend and I decided to go out for some beer. We came up behind a very old car driven by a VERY VERY old woman who could barely see over the top of the steering wheel. She was ALL over the road, left-right, in the grass, so bad in fact we considered calling 911. We got close to the store (the only store..lol) to get the beer and the dear old soul swerved and skidded her way into a parking spot. We pulling in right next to her quite concered that she should NOT be behind the wheel..and just as we looked over at her, she reached up to the rearview mirror, removed a rosary and proceeded to kiss it quite gratefully.

Never in my life have I ever seen anyone else who so desperately needed the aid of a rosary.

[OneUp]

I say the500+ Zenaida Gonzales' need to wait until Casey gets convicted and then sue the Anthony's for defamation of character and making false claims (not a lawyer and not sure law would allow it). Let these people get the $$ that the Anthony's seem to think they are going to live the good life on....
:beer:...If I find out that millions are made off of this childs murder, I will personally track down each one and suggest that she do just that.
WAAAAAYYY back in the beginning, there was talk of sueing Casey and her family for things they said. The TH lawyers basically said someone could, but it would be like getting blood from a stone as the Anthony family couldn't even come up with Casey's bond, and Casey herself is worthless ( yes, and I meant it both ways!).
Well now the times have changed! Not only do I hope the proper authorities are watching the donations like a hawk, I hope that any of this blood money earned by selling Caylees image to shelter Casey is drained from these stone hearted "people" by those who have faced false allegations directly by their statements.
A missing child is not an opportunity to make bail and pay off your bills. I want this followed and prosecuted if needed to the full extent of the law before sickos start cropping up who think "losing" their child is a great get rich quick scheme.
Raising money for your defense online by milking sympathy for your missing child is disgusting...a good defense should be available at any price, not just for those who have the bucks to pay. IMO, a good mothers last concern at this point in time should be her eventual murder defense.
Don't for one second think I don't know what I'm talking about. The Parent is the first suspect when a child goes missing, and many people still lay part of the blame on me even knowing for a fact who murdered Tia. I don't have the time even now to bother to correct their warped view. I didn't need to defend myself then and I don't now because I know the truth. The truth proves itself in the end. BTW, I never needed an attorney, and never requested one.
JMO.
P.S. No more watching Nancy Grace for me...it gets me riled hearing Casey and Cindy's voices...like nails on a chalkboard to my morality.
Unbelievable!
:rose:God, please help me to keep Caylees sweet face in my mind and to forget about all of the earthly things at work here that will not matter in the end. I must know that You will see Justice for Caylee when all is said and done, in Your way and in Your time.:rose:

[Boxer]

I think I understand what you mean. IIRC, the Anthonys moved to FL from OH when Casey was 3. According to what Rich, Cindy's brother posted, things were not good for them in OH. I suspect that they had some problems in FL also. After all, they did file for divorce. I bet Casey saw a lot of things a child shouldn't. I think Cindy's "we're perfect" approach to things probably caused "sweetheart" to withdraw to her own comfort zone and have a lot of problems. JMHO.

IMO, Casey capitolized on her parents problems. Made them feel guilty for hearing the fighting or whatever they did. I think it was with purpose and malice. The divorce was filed 4 months after Caylee was born and stopped just this past December. I think she is a manipulative enough person to get her way even if it was wrong by using the guilt card...as in calling you guys...what a waste.

[rosejustrose]

At first I thought Casey wasnt spilling because she didnt want the body tested for drugs (tissue testing)
But now I think the child may have died violently, and the bones may show signs of trauma.

Or Casey is just really, really nuts

Or-- D) All of the above:(

MOO

I think Caylee died violently and I think it was because Casey was still reeling from the verbal beating Cindy laid on her Father's Day about her stealing and her need to get out. I also think Cindy told Casey that when she left she was not taking Caylee. Things about Casey's statement strike me as strange, like the call Caylee made and talking about shoes. Something about those shoes is bothering Casey because we know Caylee never called her. She killed her child but she messed up and that shoe will be her downfall, in her mind. That's why she brought it up. IMO.

[mosey2]

I think I understand what you mean. IIRC, the Anthonys moved to FL from OH when Casey was 3. According to what Rich, Cindy's brother posted, things were not good for them in OH. I suspect that they had some problems in FL also. After all, they did file for divorce. I bet Casey saw a lot of things a child shouldn't. I think Cindy's "we're perfect" approach to things probably caused "sweetheart" to withdraw to her own comfort zone and have a lot of problems. JMHO.

I don't think Cindy "liked" Casey very much. But, I think she loved Caylee. New hope, maybe.
Watch Cindys demenor in the Greta tape where George is talking about the gas cans in the car. She leaned back heavily on the couch with a satisfied "ha" at George's story when he gets to the point of catching Casey in a lie.
She also appears to have given George's story's "punch line" and that had to be cut out (badly) from the clip. She wanted the moral of the story to be told REAL BAD.
MOO

[kakax]

5. Florida Statute 60.05 states, verbatim, as follows:
60.05 Abatement of nuisances.--
(1) When any nuisance as defined in s. 823.05 exists, the Attorney General, state attorney, city attorney, county attorney, or any citizen of the county may sue in the name of the state on his or her relation to enjoin the nuisance, the person or persons maintaining it, and the owner or agent of the building or ground on which the nuisance exists.
(2) The court may allow a temporary injunction without bond on proper proof being made. If it appears by evidence or affidavit that a temporary injunction should issue, the court, pending the determination on final hearing, may enjoin:
(a) The maintaining of a nuisance;
(b) The operating and maintaining of the place or premises where the nuisance is maintained;
(c) The owner or agent of the building or ground upon which the nuisance exists;
(d) The conduct, operation, or maintenance of any business or activity operated or maintained in the building or on the premises in connection with or incident to the maintenance of the nuisance.

The injunction shall specify the activities enjoined and shall not preclude the operation of any lawful business not conducive to the maintenance of the nuisance complained of. At least 3 days' notice in writing shall be given defendant of the time and place of application for the temporary injunction.
(3) Evidence of the general reputation of the alleged nuisance and place is admissible to prove the existence of the nuisance. No action filed by a citizen shall be dismissed unless the court is satisfied that it should be dismissed. Otherwise the action shall continue and the state attorney notified to proceed with it. If the action is brought by a citizen and the court finds that there was no reasonable ground for the action, the costs shall be taxed against the citizen.
(4) On trial if the existence of a nuisance is shown, the court shall issue a permanent injunction and order the costs to be paid by the persons establishing or maintaining the nuisance and shall adjudge that the costs are a lien on all personal property found in the place of the nuisance and on the failure of the property to bring enough to pay the costs, then on the real estate occupied by the nuisance. No lien shall attach to the real estate of any other than said persons unless 5 days' written notice has been given to the owner or his or her agent who fails to begin to abate the nuisance within said 5 days. In a proceeding abating a nuisance pursuant to s. 823.10 or s. 823.05, if a tenant has been convicted of an offense under chapter 893 or s. 796.07, the court may order the tenant to vacate the property within 72 hours if the tenant and owner of the premises are parties to the nuisance abatement action and the order will lead to the abatement of the nuisance.
(5) If the action was brought by the Attorney General, a state attorney, or any other officer or agency of state government; if the court finds either before or after trial that there was no reasonable ground for the action; and if judgment is rendered for the defendant, the costs and reasonable attorney's fees shall be taxed against the state.
_______________________________
http://www.jackthompson.org/archives/legal.htm




I was just wondering if this failure of notice was something that they could do and then it would be allowed.

[rosejustrose]

Casey is developmentally "stuck" at around 10 years old, IMO
She must have had a tragedy around that age.


Have you ever the term 'stuck in perpetual adolesence"? It usually applies to men but in this case I think Casey is a prime candidate. JMO.

[True2Blues]

I think Caylee died violently and I think it was because Casey was still reeling from the verbal beating Cindy laid on her Father's Day about her stealing and her need to get out. I also think Cindy told Casey that when she left she was not taking Caylee. Things about Casey's statement strike me as strange, like the call Caylee made and talking about shoes. Something about those shoes is bothering Casey because we know Caylee never called her. She killed her child but she messed up and that shoe will be her downfall, in her mind. That's why she brought it up. IMO.

Maybe she forgot to dump the shoes and that's what she had buried in the backyard and dug up and got rid of? She is obsessed with the shoes.

[Boxer]

I think Caylee died violently and I think it was because Casey was still reeling from the verbal beating Cindy laid on her Father's Day about her stealing and her need to get out. I also think Cindy told Casey that when she left she was not taking Caylee. Things about Casey's statement strike me as strange, like the call Caylee made and talking about shoes. Something about those shoes is bothering Casey because we know Caylee never called her. She killed her child but she messed up and that shoe will be her downfall, in her mind. That's why she brought it up. IMO.


I agree but my message is too short

[kakax]

Definition of a nuisance (as if we need it)

4. Florida Statute 823.05 states, verbatim, as follows:
823.05 Places declared a nuisance; may be abated and enjoined.--Whoever shall erect, establish, continue, or maintain, own or lease any building, booth, tent or place which tends to annoy the community or injure the health of the community, or become manifestly injurious to the morals or manners of the people as described in s. 823.01, or shall be frequented by the class of persons mentioned in 1s. 856.02, or any house or place of prostitution, assignation, lewdness or place or building where games of chance are engaged in violation of law or any place where any law of the state is violated, shall be deemed guilty of maintaining a nuisance, and the building, erection, place, tent or booth and the furniture, fixtures and contents are declared a nuisance. All such places or persons shall be abated or enjoined as provided in ss. 60.05 and 60.06.

[zippy]

About the hand holding thing....if that had been a male, say Scott Peterson holding the hand of a female defense atty., the world would be in an uproar.

I have seen some posters say, he is just trying to protect her. Protect her by holding her hand, from what? It is sickening and a slap in the face to his wife, IMO. The body guards aren't holding her hand and they are protecting her. So unprofessional.

I have 3 B words for JB..Bimboozled:-Bamboozled by a Bimbo.:)IMOO

[ruth66]

Exactly...just like I felt with Melanie Maguire....

ditto on that...Melanie Mcguire had her defense attorney snowed. JT at least appeared to have a little more expertise and looked confident (overly at times). Baez has simply had an opportunity fall into his lap and is not capable enough to pull it off.

[True2Blues]

IMO, Casey capitolized on her parents problems. Made them feel guilty for hearing the fighting or whatever they did. I think it was with purpose and malice. The divorce was filed 4 months after Caylee was born and stopped just this past December. I think she is a manipulative enough person to get her way even if it was wrong by using the guilt card...as in calling you guys...what a waste.

I agree. I don't think Casey is afraid of her mother, I think she likes to show Cindy that the only person telling Casey what to do, is Casey.

[CNTM]

Cop car with lights on!

[kakax]

Last legal mumbo jumbo I'm posting cause I really don't understand any of it....

3. Florida Statute 823.01 states, verbatim, as follows:
823.01 Nuisances; penalty.--All nuisances that tend to annoy the community, injure the health of the citizens in general, or corrupt the public morals are misdemeanors of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.083, except that a violation of s. 823.10 is a felony of the third degree.

[rosejustrose]

Here's a light in the window shot.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

You know, if I were the Anthonys, I'd set up bright lights and aim them towards the webcam to block any footage from being taken. You have to admit, is it bizarre to have a webcam focused on your house 24/7. JMHO.

ETA - Oh, I forgot, then roller derby F bomb queen Cindy wouldn't have her few minutes of fame. My bad.

[summer4meplz]

Casey ruins another life. The poor woman got fired from her job because of her name. Even though even Casey said she wasn't the one. Ignorant idiots are sending her Zanny the nanny hate mail. Poor woman.

I agree she needs to file a lawsuit against the anthony's....she can at least get on the list of debts to be paid out of that mil and ahalf they're going to be getting.....imo

[Boxer]

I saw that too its freaking me out. This woman, she clearly needs mental help. How is it she passed the evals to be bonded out? Andrea Yates couldnt have passed oh wait she did; that's right she was "passed" back home BY mental health; so there was no help there. What are they doing in the garage at night? They dont smoke, so what's up? I see that there really ARE no protesters at ALL in front of their home tonight. I think that in her mind, she thinks she did the perp walk like Paris Hilton. I think THAT is who she is modeling when she is released and arrested. Did you all SEE the way she was purposefully swinging her hips? She is sexually inappropriate. Her behavior with men shows that. Who is this childs father? Do the Anthony's really know exactly who the father is?


prolly waiting for the protesters:D Cindy does love an audience

[mosey2]

IMO, Casey capitolized on her parents problems. Made them feel guilty for hearing the fighting or whatever they did. I think it was with purpose and malice. The divorce was filed 4 months after Caylee was born and stopped just this past December. I think she is a manipulative enough person to get her way even if it was wrong by using the guilt card...as in calling you guys...what a waste.
I think you are right about the Anthony'e not talking their arguments quietly behind closed doors. Casey may have learned early on how to manipulate situations to her advantage. She seems like a daddy's-girl to me
This was from one of those pay for background check sites (all infor is here, but we dont know if it is ''These Anthonys"):
1. 1. The Anthony family has taken mortgages out on several properties in Trumbull County over the past 10-15 years (after they moved to Florida).
2. Cynthia M. Anthony of Orlando, Florida was evicted as a tenant from Pine View Apartments on 7/10/2002.
3. George Anthony filed for dilssolution of marriage (AKA divorce) from Cynthia Anthony on 12/29/05. The order was dismissed on 11/28/2007.
4. Cynthia Anthony took out a mortgage on 50-245 Chickawsaw Oaks with Bank of America on 1/6/1999. After late/default payment, the Anthony’s and Bank of America finally came to a financial “agreement” 50-245 Chickasaw Oaks (Phase 3) on 7/14/2005.
5. Action is filed by MBNA AMERICA BANK NA against George Anthony on 12/11/2006. There was an order of dismissal after a hearing on 8/4/2008 (while Caylee was missing).
6. Action is filed by FIA CARD SERVICES NA against George Anthony on 11/28/2007. The case is unresolved and currently open.
7. A woman named Cindy Anthony of Orlando, Florida filed bankruptcy on May 12, 2008

#2 Has a Cindy Anthony that had her own Apartment for awhile in '02.
MOO

[barskin&co.]

Cop car with lights on!


I see. Maybe just checking out the protestor situation?? :confused:

[Rayosunshine]

Woman Accused Of Kidnapping Caylee Speaks Out (http://www.wesh.com/news/17486377/detail.html)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Homeless and without a job, Zenaida Gonzalez sat in her hotel room and took comfort in the arms of her youngest daughter...

She is looking to cash in, just like Kristina and Ricardo did.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[concernedmom]

There is a cop car in front of Anthonys now.Every time I see one there I cant help but wonder, did he slept with Casey too:shrug:

[bluwaters]

my cam is showing a police car .yellow with lights on dont know if its just driving by or stoped anyone else have this?
I see it. Doesn't look like any kind of LE I've ever seen. I think my cam is stuck on it.

[kakax]

Cop car with lights on!



I hope Casey's blood pressure has risen a little bit.

[shelbar53]

On the websleuth site, the thread official documents...the 5th post has pictures of casey and caylee, the black and white picture breaks my heart...i cant look at it. the way caylee is looking at her mom {casey} is so full of love. that picture is beautiful...it brings tears to my eyes just thinking something bad has happened to her. I would bring the pic here but i dont know how.

[FrankieBones1]

I'm in GA and I'm blinded by that light...those poor neighbors.
I see a police car on the street on Cam 1. Not sure if this is a live shot or not.

[True2Blues]

I saw that too its freaking me out. This woman, she clearly needs mental help. How is it she passed the evals to be bonded out? Andrea Yates couldnt have passed oh wait she did; that's right she was "passed" back home BY mental health; so there was no help there. What are they doing in the garage at night? They dont smoke, so what's up? I see that there really ARE no protesters at ALL in front of their home tonight. I think that in her mind, she thinks she did the perp walk like Paris Hilton. I think THAT is who she is modeling when she is released and arrested. Did you all SEE the way she was purposefully swinging her hips? She is sexually inappropriate. Her behavior with men shows that. Who is this childs father? Do the Anthony's really know exactly who the father is?

Sociopathy (Which I believe is her problem) isn't treatable and you don't get institutionalized for it. It's a pattern of behavior, chosen by the person who has it and can only be affected if that person wants it to be. Sociopaths are all narcissists and like the way they are.

Sociopathy doesn't force a person to kill, that is personal choice anyway. There's nothing they can do with Casey, unfortunately.

[rosejustrose]

Maybe she forgot to dump the shoes and that's what she had buried in the backyard and dug up and got rid of? She is obsessed with the shoes.


So am I. There's something about those shoes. Of all things in the world that a child who hasn't spoken to their mother in five weeks would talk about, shoes???? There's something out there that Casey is "petrified" will be found. IMO, it's little Casey's blue crocs or other cute little shoes. It really bothered me and I'm not bothered by much:rolleyes:

[mosey2]

I hope Casey's blood pressure has risen a little bit.
If she seizes, I don't think Jesse Grund will be driving her to the hospital this time.

[rosejustrose]

I agree but my message is too short

Maybe one day you'll elaborate because I have a feeling it'll be worth hearing, my friend. Everyone will listen to sense, IMO.

[bluwaters]

I think you are right about the Anthony'e not talking their arguments quietly behind closed doors. Casey may have learned early on how to manipulate situations to her advantage. She seems like a daddy's-girl to me
This was from one of those pay for background check sites (all infor is here, but we dont know if it is ''These Anthonys"):
1. 1. The Anthony family has taken mortgages out on several properties in Trumbull County over the past 10-15 years (after they moved to Florida).
2. Cynthia M. Anthony of Orlando, Florida was evicted as a tenant from Pine View Apartments on 7/10/2002.
3. George Anthony filed for dilssolution of marriage (AKA divorce) from Cynthia Anthony on 12/29/05. The order was dismissed on 11/28/2007.
4. Cynthia Anthony took out a mortgage on 50-245 Chickawsaw Oaks with Bank of America on 1/6/1999. After late/default payment, the Anthony’s and Bank of America finally came to a financial “agreement” 50-245 Chickasaw Oaks (Phase 3) on 7/14/2005.
5. Action is filed by MBNA AMERICA BANK NA against George Anthony on 12/11/2006. There was an order of dismissal after a hearing on 8/4/2008 (while Caylee was missing).
6. Action is filed by FIA CARD SERVICES NA against George Anthony on 11/28/2007. The case is unresolved and currently open.
7. A woman named Cindy Anthony of Orlando, Florida filed bankruptcy on May 12, 2008


#2 Has a Cindy Anthony that had her own Apartment for awhile in '02.
MOO

#2 is a prostitute who shares Cindy's name. In fact, she is currently in the OC jail.

[Oregongal]

I see casey is back home and living the good life. I hope by nov the le will charge her with murder if caylee is not found by that time. jmho:rose:

I'm thinking (remember to look at my sig) that LE has a strategy here. That possibly just after the Nov hearing/trial, they will bring the big one on.
All these charges, arrests, may be their way of laying the groundwork to show she is not just an innocent, law abiding young woman. I don't know if they could bring in these charges as past bad acts, but maybe they will be able to bring them in to show dishonesty on her part. Add the tapes where she continues to lie, if I would a juror, I would definintly take it all into account.
And also as a juror I would see they did respect her constitusional rights...they charged her for these crimes, she was allowed bail. Again and again. She is now awaiting trial on those charges. Perfectly kosher.
LE is following the rules.
I also wonder if they may be waiting to bring murder/manslaughter charges against her after the Nov. hearing/trial. For these economic and child neglect charges I have no doubt she will be convicted. They have her on tape spending money that was not her's. They have her sig on forged checks. They have the fact that her child is missing...sorry to me that spell's BIG CHILD NEGLECT. They may be waiting for her to be convicted of that and then will charge her the biggy.
That would take care of any double jeopardy.
She gets convicted of these charges. Then they would bring the new charges of murder/manslaughter.
Rather than trying to wrap all these charges with that, it would become new charges, no double jeopardy.
I'm kind of thinking that the Nov thing will happen, a verdict will come and then that is when LE will pounce on her. Two different sets of crimes. Convicted for one set, then another trial for the other.
Just thinking out loud here, as I've said many times before I'm not a lawyer. But, wanted to throw out there that we may have to wait until Nov to see where LE ulimately goes. Unless they find Caylee's body before then, I'm sure all I've just said would change with that. I'm just going on what we have now...Caylee has not been found. The charges and trial she is facing right now has nothing to do with the possible death of Caylee. LE's plan may be to get these charges out of the way, then they there will go from there.
My prayers and hope are with Caylee and that no matter how it's done, how long it may take, justice will brought for her.
:rose:

[rosejustrose]

ditto on that...Melanie Mcguire had her defense attorney snowed. JT at least appeared to have a little more expertise and looked confident (overly at times). Baez has simply had an opportunity fall into his lap and is not capable enough to pull it off.


Give him a break, he's on a sugar high from all those brownies!!!barf

[kakax]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live10pm11pm.html


For those who want to watch the news at 10.

[bluwaters]

She is looking to cash in, just like Kristina and Ricardo did.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

She actually has a real reason to cash in. She has been libeled.

[Rayosunshine]

Bringing my reply over:

We should not feel obliged to talk someone else out of a crazy, groundless theory. It's like proving a negative.


And as I posted earlier, you should not feel obliged to do so.

This is just, as many have posted, my opinion.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Joan Weiss]

Judges order denying HOA's wish to move protesters

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/news/091608injuntion.pdf



It states it has been denied without prejudice because they failed to give notice by some statute. Ugh more research to do.Here's the statute. It appears to me that they must be prepared and give three days (or five?) notice to the defendant. They can't do that without names.


http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=60.05&URL=CH0060/Sec05.HTM

[martha]

Was cindy george and lee there today when she got out of jail? If she had stayed in jail then everything would be quite at the anthony house jmho:rose:

[kakax]

Is the picture live? I think I just saw the light in the garage go off?

[concernedmom]

I dont think the cam is stuck because his arm isnt up there any more.

[Rayosunshine]

I would be irate over this in my neighborhood!:flamemad: I have to get up and go to work every day and this would push me over the edge!

I guess Florida doesn't have "disturbance of the peace" laws.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMo

[Margo555]

About the hand holding thing....if that had been a male, say Scott Peterson holding the hand of a female defense atty., the world would be in an uproar.

I have seen some posters say, he is just trying to protect her. Protect her by holding her hand, from what? It is sickening and a slap in the face to his wife, IMO. The body guards aren't holding her hand and they are protecting her. So unprofessional.

After all the time that's been spent together with no end in sight, and the hand holding, arm around and pulling in close, if he were my husband, he would be off that case now or he would be gone. MOO :cuss:

[dixie77]

It's blood money, what kind of people could do this. profit off a dead child? I do not get that. :rose: maybe Caylee got into the pool and drown. Maybe she was in there for quite some time before she was found. Maybe, she was bloated, and Casey put her body in the Trunk. Maybe George Opened the Trunk and found Caylee. Maybe, they took her and disposed of her remains with those gas cans. Weren't they in the Car? Now What would those cans be doing in the car trunk? Well they would be in there after they removed her dead body, that's for sure. Maybe there was trace evidence left on the outside of those cans. Then, after the family did this improper disposal of body, they then had to get all the smell of decomp and fluids, out of that trunk, and this is when the Cholor was used. Based on what everyone has said this is highly likely; doncha think? :rose:
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Very highly likely. That has been my theory. I think it was a neglient accident in the pool due to Casey. And G. and C. helped her cover it up. JMO

[bluwaters]

Here's the statute. It appears to me that they must be prepared and give three days (or five?) notice to the defendant. They can't do that without names.


http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=60.05&URL=CH0060/Sec05.HTM
I wonder if they run a public notice in the Sentinel if that would qualify, since they can't name the general population?

[barskin&co.]

Is the picture live? I think I just saw the light in the garage go off?

Well, the cop is moving. He's drin-king cof-fee.

Okay that was supposed to sound like the SNL "making cop-ies" sketch

[Boxer]

Maybe one day you'll elaborate because I have a feeling it'll be worth hearing, my friend. Everyone will listen to sense, IMO.

yeah, I know you know what I think I know.

O/T but On T...1 April, 1963 my sister was hit by a car. She had very very severe damage to her head. She was dragged under the car for quite a ways..her shoes were knocked off her feet even though they were the buckle on mary janes that were popular. After the ambulance left and our family friend took my mom to the hospital, another neighbor brought the shoes home. My mother has never ever one time looked at those shoes even though she kept everything of my sister's. They've never bothered me.

Caylee's shoes have bothered me since way before even the docs came out. In fact, they haunt me a little.


Please everyone don't post roses and such. I'm fine, my family is fine and I'd rather have a rose for Caylee.

[mosey2]

#2 is a prostitute who shares Cindy's name. In fact, she is currently in the OC jail.
LOL Is that right? Well, there you are, then.

[barskin&co.]

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Very highly likely. That has been my theory. I think it was a neglient accident in the pool due to Casey. And G. and C. helped her cover it up. JMO

But, why would they go through all this? Why not report an accident? Casey wouldn't panic; she doesn't panic. I think it was intentional.

[bluwaters]

I dont think the cam is stuck because his arm isnt up there any more.

I think that it is still live. They do seem to turn the camera off between 10-11 PM at night.

jmho

[nana6]

Andy and Barney ya think:shrug:

Yes, with Otis in the back!!

[rosejustrose]

OK me too I totally agree. When I listen to her tapes, Casey is the one who brings up Caylee being HURT, Casey is the one who brings up "something terrible happening" She is the one who has put Caylee in danger, she knows it and practically admitted it on tape. I dont know WHY people are not hearing it. I hear it; LE is saying where is the kid? She is saying my mom is going to kill me for what I've done, I am beating myself up daily, (we know that wasnt true too) And, she brings up Caylee being HURT. I do not think that she died peacefully I will say that. When GA said that was not my grandaughters body in the trunk, it makes me think something really really horrible happened to her that disfigured her in some way. Death will do that to a body, but a horrible death? Now that will make someone unrecognizable. Sorry, just looking at what Casey has actually said on Tape, and I have to go there. I dont believe any of this BS about her being handed over to someone, sold, given away, lost or missing. Whatever it is it's ugly. The truth always is.. :rose:

Jenny, I appreciate your passion for this case and can see how much thought you have put into this. I agree with you. I think there are "clues", subconcious statements made by George and Casey about Caylee that need to be examined. George went ballistic when confronted with the forensics he screamed that the body in his "granddaughters" car was not his granddaughter. OK. Maybe that was a mistake. He meant his daughter's car. I think he was just horrified that it was his granddaughter in that trunk and his mind wouldn't let go of it. There's also alot of Casey's statements, talking about Caylee in the past tense that need to be examined. Something terrible happened to that little girl and Casey isn't the only Anthony that knows it. Only a significant emotional event will make these people talk and I think that event will be when Caylee is found. IMO.

I pray Caylee is found soon. RIP angel:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

I wonder if they run a public notice in the Sentinel if that would qualify, since they can't name the general population?I doubt it. Papers would have to be served on the defendant(s). There's no way. Past, present or future protesters aren't going to give their names...No one can make them. imo

ETA: The newscast I heard today said they couldn't name the defendants, and that's why it was dismissed. imo

[ruth66]

Well, the cop is moving. He's drin-king cof-fee.

Okay that was supposed to sound like the SNL "making cop-ies" sketch

I loved that skit!!! My DH and I always laugh about it......now that's funny stuff....

[True2Blues]

I think I agree.

I've been involved with a person so afflicted for many years.

Never thought making a spectacle of myself and pounding stakes into the ground on which to hang safety tape was the answer but, hey, what do I know? :shrug:


One thing all sociopaths have in common is a distant, unapproachable, sociopathic parent. Some have two.

[rosejustrose]

prolly waiting for the protesters:D Cindy does love an audience

Oh yeah, she does love her hammer time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JomHWt7p6-c

Those tapes and signs need to be tended to, IMO.

[Joan Weiss]

I think that it is still live. They do seem to turn the camera off between 10-11 PM at night.

jmhoMaybe so George can go to work? :confused:

[rosejustrose]

ITA. I've been thinking that for some time. So sad, how damaged we can become.


But, with love and compassion, most of us can be fixed, IMO.

[Good4u]

I saw that too its freaking me out. This woman, she clearly needs mental help. How is it she passed the evals to be bonded out? Andrea Yates couldnt have passed oh wait she did; that's right she was "passed" back home BY mental health; so there was no help there. What are they doing in the garage at night? They dont smoke, so what's up? I see that there really ARE no protesters at ALL in front of their home tonight. I think that in her mind, she thinks she did the perp walk like Paris Hilton. I think THAT is who she is modeling when she is released and arrested. Did you all SEE the way she was purposefully swinging her hips? She is sexually inappropriate. Her behavior with men shows that. Who is this childs father? Do the Anthony's really know exactly who the father is?

Yes I noticed that. It boggles the mind. I honestly think she believes that men are looking at her, that she is what every man wants...that was a very exagerated sexy hip swinging walk. I haven't seen her sashay like that before. Honestly, whatever was wrong in her mind before, it's getting worse.

[True2Blues]

But, why would they go through all this? Why not report an accident? Casey wouldn't panic; she doesn't panic. I think it was intentional.


:seeya: I agree. Casey got rid of her "problem".

[Boxer]

Oh yeah, she does love her hammer time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JomHWt7p6-c

Those tapes and signs need to be tended to, IMO.

lol, anything to make herself available to her fan...atics

[kakax]

Well, the cop is moving. He's drin-king cof-fee.

Okay that was supposed to sound like the SNL "making cop-ies" sketch


rofl!

Eat-ing do-nuts

I had to do that it wouldn't let me just do rofl! LOL!

[rosejustrose]

I hope Casey's blood pressure has risen a little bit.


You so funny! Vampires don't have blood pressure. Duh, silly girl:D

[nana6]

Yes I noticed that. It boggles the mind. I honestly think she believes that men are looking at her, that she is what every man wants...that was a very exagerated sexy hip swinging walk. I haven't seen her sashay like that before. Honestly, whatever was wrong in her mind before, it's getting worse.

Oh she always sashays. Always

[frances1]

I was still on the other thread, and started hearing crickets chirping. Isabelle, I left a couple of messages over there for you toward the end.

[charm7]

Someone is peeking out the darker window in the Anthony house.:rolleyes:

[rosejustrose]

Sociopathy (Which I believe is her problem) isn't treatable and you don't get institutionalized for it. It's a pattern of behavior, chosen by the person who has it and can only be affected if that person wants it to be. Sociopaths are all narcissists and like the way they are.

Sociopathy doesn't force a person to kill, that is personal choice anyway. There's nothing they can do with Casey, unfortunately.


ITA. There is nothing anyone can do.

[bluwaters]

Hiya Blu, I still see the cop leaning over in the drivers seat...he is frozen. It's refreshed for 20 minutes, stil he hasnt moved. Why are the Anthony's allowing the cam? Who, would do that anyway? Do they like to be watched or are they still writing this script for the book deal and the movie of the week on LifeTime? __________ To Casey and "FamDamly" Believe me Casey, that is all you will get if you ever get even that. No one will need to buy your book; or watch a stupid movie about your messed up family, because we've all watched it unfold, LIVE. There wont be any draw; see look out the window Casey!! There isnt anyone there, and there was hardly anyone there when you were released today. Interest, is dwindling, look at the size of this thread. It's starting.....Cant keep up the pace, huh Anthonys?

My pic shows slight changes in the driver, but also changes in the lights and reflections off of the houses. LOL, I gotta get a life.
I don't think that the Anthony's can stop Fox from running that camera.

[Boxer]

Oh she always sashays. Always

IMO, the one video of her being arrested at the house was worse. I thought she's never get through the door:shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

One thing all sociopaths have in common is a distant, unapproachable, sociopathic parent. Some have two.Well, if Casey killed Caylee, she's a psychopath; ie; a sociopath who crossed over the line. Actually, that could be very dangerous for Cindy and George. imo

[concernedmom]

Someone is peeking out the darker window in the Anthony house.:rolleyes:

There sure was.:eek:

[dixie77]

But, why would they go through all this? Why not report an accident? Casey wouldn't panic; she doesn't panic. I think it was intentional.

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If it was a neglient accident like i think, then Casey would go to jail. Lets say it was something like this........Caylee is in the pool....Casey goes inside the house, maybe she gets on the phone for a long period of time or perhaps falls asleep on the sofa and forgets Caylee is out there. The child drowns due to Casey's stuipdity. For sure Casey goes to jail. G & A know they lost their grandchild and dont want to lose their daughter also. Actually.....i do think Casey did panic....thats why the flurry of phone calls she made to G & C. And i dont believe for one second that they didnt call her back. This is JMO

[Oregongal]

From Gretawire....


heck this out…an email with the latest from my colleague Justin Wells:

From: Wells, Justin
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:46 PM
To: Van Susteren, Greta; Cooper, Meade
Subject: DR PHIL taping casey show tomorrow

“Dr. Phil” to tape show Wednesday on Caylee Anthony case; neighbor, protesters, Mark NeJame to take part”

“Dr. Phil” on Wednesday will tape a show about the Caylee Anthony case. No air date, however, has been set.

Taking part in Los Angeles will be a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D’Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6. WKMG airs “Dr. Phil” at 7 weeknights.

The program also will look at protesters and supporters of the Anthony family.

Casey Anthony, Caylee’s tight-lipped mother, was released from jail for the third time Tuesday.

The Anthony case will be part of a show that Dr. Phil McGraw’s team calls “Behind the Headlines.”
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

I tend to take these announcments with a huge grain of salt. I happen to be a Dr. Phil fan and there have been many of this sort of announcements made about someone/something that have been in the headlines that turn out to be nothing. I would suggest if anyone has questions on if this is real or not, email Dr. Phil. He and his staff is pretty good at confirming whether or not these claims are real. Whether he has or has not scheduled a segment on this, I would say go to the source, Dr. Phil himself.

[mosey2]

Someone is peeking out the darker window in the Anthony house.:rolleyes:
That's Casey. Jennyand:cool:Dots told her to in post #160

[nana6]

:seeya:Nana does it look like there a protsters standing by the yellow tape on the side walk i thought i seen one:shrug:

no, I only see the car. I have not seen any protesters.

[Boxer]

I tend to take these announcments with a huge grain of salt. I happen to be a Dr. Phil fan and there have been many of this sort of announcements made about someone/something that have been in the headlines that turn out to be nothing. I would suggest if anyone has questions on if this is real or not, email Dr. Phil. He and his staff is pretty good at confirming whether or not these claims are real. Whether he has or has not scheduled a segment on this, I would say go to the source, Dr. Phil himself.

in the document dump, the person questioning Ryan said Phil McGraw had been in touch.

[True2Blues]

Well, if Casey killed Caylee, she's a psychopath; ie; a sociopath who crossed over the line. Actually, that could be very dangerous for Cindy and George. imo


I think Cindy and George are aware of what she is. They've nurtured it. I'll bet they sleep with their bedroom door locked at night.

[concernedmom]

I tend to take these announcments with a huge grain of salt. I happen to be a Dr. Phil fan and there have been many of this sort of announcements made about someone/something that have been in the headlines that turn out to be nothing. I would suggest if anyone has questions on if this is real or not, email Dr. Phil. He and his staff is pretty good at confirming whether or not these claims are real. Whether he has or has not scheduled a segment on this, I would say go to the source, Dr. Phil himself.

LE said in one of those documents during an interview that DP had been calling him. So I think he has tried to insert his self in
this case since the beginning.

[charm7]

That's Casey. Jennyand:cool:Dots told her to in post #160

Really? I haven't had a chance to read upthread.

[Boxer]

I think Cindy and George are aware of what she is. They've nurtured it. I'll bet they sleep with their bedroom door locked at night.
that explains why Cindy heard them sleeping...fear

[Rayosunshine]

I was still on the other thread, and started hearing crickets chirping. Isabelle, I left a couple of messages over there for you toward the end.

Frances,

Thanks. Went back and read them.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[True2Blues]

that explains why Cindy heard them sleeping...fear

That's a good point.

[Oregongal]

Judges order denying HOA's wish to move protesters

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/news/091608injuntion.pdf



It states it has been denied without prejudice because they failed to give notice by some statute. Ugh more research to do.

Denied without prejudice means the case can be brought again before another judge. It wasn't thrown out completely.

[Rayosunshine]

no, I only see the car. I have not seen any protesters.

I guess now that the protesters know they can't just loiter, walking is too much work for them.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[rosejustrose]

yeah, I know you know what I think I know.

O/T but On T...1 April, 1963 my sister was hit by a car. She had very very severe damage to her head. She was dragged under the car for quite a ways..her shoes were knocked off her feet even though they were the buckle on mary janes that were popular. After the ambulance left and our family friend took my mom to the hospital, another neighbor brought the shoes home. My mother has never ever one time looked at those shoes even though she kept everything of my sister's. They've never bothered me.

Caylee's shoes have bothered me since way before even the docs came out. In fact, they haunt me a little.


Please everyone don't post roses and such. I'm fine, my family is fine and I'd rather have a rose for Caylee.


Out of respect for you, I won't post a rose for you or your family but I will say that makes me more convinced that you know what you're talking about. Those shoes haunt me, too. My Little Aunt Mary, she was a nun, used to sing a song to me about dancing with the dolly with the hole in her stocking and I remember thinking where were her shoes? The shoes haunt me too. And, I'm starting to give some serious thought to the stories about the "other" phone. JMHO.

Here's a rose for Caylee from me and you:rose:

[Boxer]

I'm grinning, feeling pretty proud of myself for this revelation, although it's probably been thought of already...:punch:

Was just thinking that if the parents are involved in the coverup, the whole "Just give me one more day," and the "no, I already gave you a month" translates into Cindy telling Casey, it's time now to report this, we've agreed and you've had your fun, now it's time to go w/ our plan.

I can see them telling Casey to act "normal" and the problem was she didn't want to come home, she wanted TonE so bad, but Cindy put an end to all that. Hence the snarky, "you don't know what all MY involvement in all this is?!" She was baiting Cindy, Cindy had pizzed her off on the tv and Casey was reminding her, MY involvement is just as bad as yours and you better shut up.

That is the time I saw Cindy change, she was giving info to interviewers, and right after Casey handed it to her in that jail tape, she turned super defensive and started handing out unbelieveable and conflicting stories.

JMO


love your cameo. works for me

[rosejustrose]

Oh she always sashays. Always

OK, I thought it was me and wasn't going to mention it. But she does do the walk, right?

[mosey2]

Really? I haven't had a chance to read upthread.
(((She's got the Pow-ah)))

[rosejustrose]

WHere is the BIG BAD bodyguards tonight:shrug: did there chairs fall apart or what.''''

Maybe Casey felt threatened so they're "protecting" her. Hope they're "protecting" themselves. JMO

[Fallen Angel]

Why are the cops at the Anthony's house?

[nana6]

Is this LE officer going to have to sit there all night? I cannot imagine what Casey is costing the good people of Orlando (and time for the officers too)their time has to worth alot. All of this nonsense because she will not tell what she did with this adorable angel. Nope, if this was an accident she would have called 911.This was no accident IMO I think if it were, if it really were an accident by this time in the case she would have said ok you got me. Why go to all of this if it were just an accident? So much more is involved here than we know. I believe that Cindy did not know when she was on the phone with 911 and Casey was crying on the floor and telling Lee that Caylee was kidnapped. If you remember, you can hear George in the background coming in and Cindy tells him while she on on hold that Caylee has been kidnapped and the first thing out of his mouth is did you call the police and she says she is on with them now. I think George came in too late. If he had come in a few minutes earlier he could have told Cindy what had happened because I think he knew but it was too late then. IMO

[rosejustrose]

IMO, the one video of her being arrested at the house was worse. I thought she's never get through the door:shrug:


That's the one that caught my eye. She seemed to be deliberately playing it. IMO.

ETA - I didn't say anything sooner because I didnt' want to be called catty.

[kakax]

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If it was a neglient accident like i think, then Casey would go to jail. Lets say it was something like this........Caylee is in the pool....Casey goes inside the house, maybe she gets on the phone for a long period of time or perhaps falls asleep on the sofa and forgets Caylee is out there. The child drowns due to Casey's stuipdity. For sure Casey goes to jail. G & A know they lost their grandchild and dont want to lose their daughter also. Actually.....i do think Casey did panic....thats why the flurry of phone calls she made to G & C. And i dont believe for one second that they didnt call her back. This is JMO



There was a bad thunderstorm in the area around that time of the flurry of phone calls. This really made me rethink it being a pool accident.

[dixie77]

I'm grinning, feeling pretty proud of myself for this revelation, although it's probably been thought of already...:punch:

Was just thinking that if the parents are involved in the coverup, the whole "Just give me one more day," and the "no, I already gave you a month" translates into Cindy telling Casey, it's time now to report this, we've agreed and you've had your fun, now it's time to go w/ our plan.

I can see them telling Casey to act "normal" and the problem was she didn't want to come home, she wanted TonE so bad, but Cindy put an end to all that. Hence the snarky, "you don't know what all MY involvement in all this is?!" She was baiting Cindy, Cindy had pizzed her off on the tv and Casey was reminding her, MY involvement is just as bad as yours and you better shut up.

That is the time I saw Cindy change, she was giving info to interviewers, and right after Casey handed it to her in that jail tape, she turned super defensive and started handing out unbelieveable and conflicting stories.

JMO
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I'll buy that !!!!!!

[Boxer]

Out of respect for you, I won't post a rose for you or your family but I will say that makes me more convinced that you know what you're talking about. Those shoes haunt me, too. My Little Aunt Mary, she was a nun, used to sing a song to me about dancing with the dolly with the hole in her stocking and I remember thinking where were her shoes? The shoes haunt me too. And, I'm starting to give some serious thought to the stories about the "other" phone. JMHO.

Here's a rose for Caylee from me and you:rose:


I know that one!

Dancing with the Dolly with the hole in her stocking, knees keep a rocking, hole in her stocking, dancing with the dolly with the hole in her stocking, knees keep a rocking oh my!

[cloe23]

:seeya:
I would love to know if Casey has ever had her car oil changed by a garage and if so what was the mileage and date at that time. Maybe she drove miles in a short time with no explantion other then to hide Caylee's body.
I am sure LE has checked this out already. Too sad. Very frustrating. JMO
:rose:

[kakax]

That's the one that caught my eye. She seemed to be deliberately playing it. IMO.

ETA - I didn't say anything sooner because I didnt' want to be called catty.



Now I have to go hunt up the video for myself LOL!!

[Oregongal]

*Respectivly snipped*
:rose:God, please help me to keep Caylees sweet face in my mind and to forget about all of the earthly things at work here that will not matter in the end. I must know that You will see Justice for Caylee when all is said and done, in Your way and in Your time.:rose:

Amen!!!
:rose:

[rosejustrose]

Well, if Casey killed Caylee, she's a psychopath; ie; a sociopath who crossed over the line. Actually, that could be very dangerous for Cindy and George. imo

I agree, Joan. There's been a lot of speculation based on Casey's conversations with friends that George and Cindy may have been next. IIRC, she stated that she was going to get the house and already lined up a room mate. :eek:

[dixie77]

I wish Greta would get off this political crap. There's enough other programs out there thats reporting on it. Come on Greta.

[Boxer]

You know, there are those who would probably describe them as "Rent-a-Thugs".

I would never do that.

I believe them to be highly trained professionals employed by Jose' Baez and I salute them for doing the job that they were hired to do in a flawless manner.

They did, afterall, provide adequate security to Ms. Anthony and her most recent release unfolded without incident.

To those who would make disparaging comments about their matching t-shirts and ball caps, I can only say "shame on you!".

This is, of course and absolutely, just IMO. :)

and not just any jail, Rhett, a horse jail!

For some reason your post made me think of Scarlett O'Hara saying "my unfortunate incarceration" :D

[Fallen Angel]

The cops gone

[rosejustrose]

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If it was a neglient accident like i think, then Casey would go to jail. Lets say it was something like this........Caylee is in the pool....Casey goes inside the house, maybe she gets on the phone for a long period of time or perhaps falls asleep on the sofa and forgets Caylee is out there. The child drowns due to Casey's stuipdity. For sure Casey goes to jail. G & A know they lost their grandchild and dont want to lose their daughter also. Actually.....i do think Casey did panic....thats why the flurry of phone calls she made to G & C. And i dont believe for one second that they didnt call her back. This is JMO

Hey dixie! The only problem I have with this scenario is that it would have had to happened at the Anthony house. George clearly stated that he saw Casey and Caylee leave for work as normal on June 16. Either he would have to have been implicated or he's lying about seeing them leave. And, the clothes that Casey was supposedly wearing were found in her car. Either Casey is lying or George is lying under the scenario Caylee drowned in the pool. JMHO.

[dixie77]

The cops gone

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Yep and no is there tonite.

[Takotna]

i've been thinking...

IF cindy knew casey wasn't working she was probably providing spending money for her.

but...i've been thinking that it's possible casey was committing crimes for a while now. we know she ripped her friends and family off. if it came that easy for her to do it to her own family, why not other people?

she could've been breaking into cars, homes, etc.
not to mention stealing checks/routing numbers, etc.

ITA - About Casey and the crimes. The other night there were posts about Amy's resume and why it was in the car. IMO Casey collected info on people to commit crimes. Today I remembered a black bag containing papers was recovered from the car. I got to thinking - she didn't have a job, wasn't going to school, etc - why would she have a bag of paperwork? IMO she was collecting info on many different people. LE wouldn't need to let any of the info out but maybe (I hope) they are getting lots of background info from it.

I'm one to talk - My car is full of paperwork - but it's all work and school related.

AllMO:)

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally Posted by mosey2
Casey is developmentally "stuck" at around 10 years old, IMO
She must have had a tragedy around that age.

I agree. I've also wondered why Casey chose to bond with that 12year old.

[Boxer]

I agree. I've also wondered why Casey chose to bond with that 12year old.


I don't know why? Maybe developmentally she was young, or she thought it was cool to have a younger girl look up to her, or all of the 20 somethings think she's crazy. I dunno.

[Oregongal]

Have you ever the term 'stuck in perpetual adolesence"? It usually applies to men but in this case I think Casey is a prime candidate. JMO.

I became aquainted with this term during counseling with my DD and my own counseling.
It doesn't only apply to men, it applies to those who may have been sexually abused, those who started doing drugs at an early age, as well as those who may have experienced a major trauma at an early age (other than sexual abuse or drugs).
I have wondered many times if Casey was like this from birth or there was maybe a trauma...or any of the above...she went thru that got her 'stuck'.

[FrankieBones1]

I agree. I've also wondered why Casey chose to bond with that 12year old.

I wondered why the 12 year old was allowed anywhere near Casey whether it was in person or online.

[kakax]

I agree. I've also wondered why Casey chose to bond with that 12year old.



Wasn't it Cindy who the grandmother was upset about? Why would Cindy befriend this little girl at such a time?

[dixie77]

Hey dixie! The only problem I have with this scenario is that it would have had to happened at the Anthony house. George clearly stated that he saw Casey and Caylee leave for work as normal on June 16. Either he would have to have been implicated or he's lying about seeing them leave. And, the clothes that Casey was supposedly wearing were found in her car. Either Casey is lying or George is lying under the scenario Caylee drowned in the pool. JMHO.
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Hi Rose In my own opinion, I think George is lying about seeing them leave for work. I still think it happened in the pool at the A's and they helped Casey cover up. JMO

[rosejustrose]

I know that one!

Dancing with the Dolly with the hole in her stocking, knees keep a rocking, hole in her stocking, dancing with the dolly with the hole in her stocking, knees keep a rocking oh my!''

OMG, I didn't thing anyone knew that oldie but goodie, LOL. Love ya, Boxer:rose: That little jingle has always meant the world to me because of my relationship with my little Aunt Mary.

[kakax]

I don't know why? Maybe developmentally she was young, or she thought it was cool to have a younger girl look up to her, or all of the 20 somethings think she's crazy. I dunno.

I vote the last one.

[nana6]

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Hi Rose In my own opinion, I think George is lying about seeing them leave for work. I still think it happened in the pool at the A's and they helped Casey cover up. JMO

Hi Dixie, This just seems so elaborate a story they are telling if it was just an accident, I can't get around this.

[dixie77]

Originally Posted by mosey2
Casey is developmentally "stuck" at around 10 years old, IMO
She must have had a tragedy around that age.
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But 10 year olds dont go around having sex with every Tom Dick and Harry. lol JO

[CNTM]

'Scuse me for screaming but, ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS PAYING FOR THE OFFICER TO JUST BABYSIT THE PROTESTERS?:flamemad::cuss:

I already know the answer!:mad:

[rosejustrose]

[QUOTE=OneUp;

Amen!!!
:rose:

For Caylee :rose:

God holds you now little one, don't fear anything, eternity is yours and it is sweet and happy:rose:

[barskin&co.]

I wish Greta would get off this political crap. There's enough other programs out there thats reporting on it. Come on Greta.

I just wish she wasn't so obsessed with Sarah Palin. Forget about crime stuff, Caylee or otherwise, until after the election.

[rosejustrose]

I wish Greta would get off this political crap. There's enough other programs out there thats reporting on it. Come on Greta.


:lol::lol:I'm sorry, dixie, but this just tickled me senseless.

[FrankieBones1]

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I'll buy that !!!!!!

Same here. Very plausible.

[Boxer]

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OMG, I didn't thing anyone knew that oldie but goodie, LOL. Love ya, Boxer:rose: That little jingle has always meant the world to me because of my relationship with my little Aunt Mary.


I didn't remember it until tonight. Sister Gregory used to sing it on the playground while we jumped rope.

[Oregongal]

yeah, I know you know what I think I know.

O/T but On T...1 April, 1963 my sister was hit by a car. She had very very severe damage to her head. She was dragged under the car for quite a ways..her shoes were knocked off her feet even though they were the buckle on mary janes that were popular. After the ambulance left and our family friend took my mom to the hospital, another neighbor brought the shoes home. My mother has never ever one time looked at those shoes even though she kept everything of my sister's. They've never bothered me.

Caylee's shoes have bothered me since way before even the docs came out. In fact, they haunt me a little.


Please everyone don't post roses and such. I'm fine, my family is fine and I'd rather have a rose for Caylee.

You may be fine, but I felt I just had to say I'm sorry for you loss, I lost a brother and understand that loss so I'm giving you a rose...:rose:

[charm7]

My hubby just said something only a man would think of ( I think )

He said everytime Casey is arrested she would have to go through a full body cavity search? ( drugs )

If that is so I would just stay put......once would have been enough :shrug:

Anyone know if this is inncorrect feel free to tell me.

[dixie77]

Hi Dixie, This just seems so elaborate a story they are telling if it was just an accident, I can't get around this.
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Hi Nana I respectfully understand how u feel but who knows what kind of negligent accident it was (if in fact it was). If i am wrong about C & G, i will be the first to post an apology. JMO

[dixie77]

My hubby just said something only a man would think of ( I think )

He said everytime Casey is arrested she would have to go through a full body cavity search? ( drugs )

If that is so I would just stay put......once would have been enough :shrug:

Anyone know if this is inncorrect feel free to tell me.
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No idea but its something to think about lol

[rosejustrose]

I became aquainted with this term during counseling with my DD and my own counseling.
It doesn't only apply to men, it applies to those who may have been sexually abused, those who started doing drugs at an early age, as well as those who may have experienced a major trauma at an early age (other than sexual abuse or drugs).
I have wondered many times if Casey was like this from birth or there was maybe a trauma...or any of the above...she went thru that got her 'stuck'.


I agree with you. I didn't do a good job od explaining where I was coming from but you covered it nicely. Thank you.

[nana6]

sure is nice and calm in here tonight. What a pleasure to talk about this case and go back and forth with one anothers opinions. I feel like I am learning so much since I came on this board. There are alot of very intelligent people posting and I really enjoy reading. I just hope we are not on here doing the same thing 6 months from now. I pray that they first find our Caylee and then they sock it to her mother big time. It can't come soon enough.:)

[concernedmom]

My hubby just said something only a man would think of ( I think )

He said everytime Casey is arrested she would have to go through a full body cavity search? ( drugs )

If that is so I would just stay put......once would have been enough :shrug:

Anyone know if this is inncorrect feel free to tell me.

Well I wouldnt want to do it. You could probably store alot of drugs in there.
barf

[ruth66]

I have thought all along the the Anthony's are putting out different stories to confuse...confuse...confuse... How will LE be able to pinpoint a timeline or a starting point if they are honest, remember if they were being truthful it would not be this confusing. They haven't taken into consideration that Casey went outside of the home with her "mess" and involved people who are not so willing to play the "game" and that this is not LE's first rodeo. What amazes me is how ignorant they think LE is. I think Cindy might be stuck at 12 yrs. old too....

[dixie77]

So very sorry to hear about your loss.

[Joan Weiss]

Denied without prejudice means the case can be brought again before another judge. It wasn't thrown out completely.thank you. I didn't know that. :)

I doubt they can, though. They need to serve notice on the protesters. How are they going to do that?

[nana6]

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Hi Nana I respectfully understand how u feel but who knows what kind of negligent accident it was (if in fact it was). If i am wrong about C & G, i will be the first to post an apology. JMO

Oh likewise Dixie. Me too. It will be intesting if we ever find out the truth.

[Boxer]

Well I wouldnt want to do it. You could probably store alot of drugs in there.
barf



:D priceless.....

[Oregongal]

But, why would they go through all this? Why not report an accident? Casey wouldn't panic; she doesn't panic. I think it was intentional.

I agree barskin, it was no accident.

[Vada Kelso]

Do you think Nancy Grace that the family is somehow watching the reward money grow so when it reaches $500,000 they will plot a plan to claim the money somehow and return Little Caylee..,
I am so sick of this woman. It seem like everybody wants to get in on the act at the cost of this poor poor child. They care more about being celebrity's then they do about there own child. (Grand Parents included). The grandfather pretending to be angry and fighting with the news media like its there fault. If you really care, just tell the truth. The media is just that, the media. They are doing there job so do yours and return that child. Also can they really accept a book deal when the case is still open and the child is still missing. I am truly surprised that no one has woop her behind.:lol: At what point are the police going to stop all this nonsense. Childred are missing everyday all this time is being wasted instead of helping other children. I am sadden and sicken with this entire ordeal.

[dixie77]

Oh likewise Dixie. Me too. It will be intesting if we ever find out the truth.
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Oh we will find out.......Nothing stays the same forever.

[Boxer]

I have thought all along the the Anthony's are putting out different stories to confuse...confuse...confuse... How will LE be able to pinpoint a timeline or a starting point if they are honest, remember if they were being truthful it would not be this confusing. They haven't taken into consideration that Casey went outside of the home with her "mess" and involved people who are not so willing to play the "game" and that this is not LE's first rodeo. What amazes me is how ignorant they think LE is. I think Cindy might be stuck at 12 yrs. old too....

I looked for a standing ovation icon but found none.:seeya:

[nana6]

Gotta go to bed. Grandchildren wore my hubby and myself out today.. Have a peaceful night everyone. Prayers going straight to heaven for our Caylee:rose:

[summer4meplz]

bringing this over here:
Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 50

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayosunshine
Casey would have had the required birth certificate, she was Caylee's mother. Casey could have written a letter. The airline might have screwed it's manifest list of passengers. Better yet, no need for birth certificate or letter, a corporate jet may have been the mode of transport.
I am not convinced that Caylee is not in Puerto Rico. Convince me!

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
Amy just passed a lie detector test. Who took Caylee to Puerto Rico? The FBI is in Puerto Rico (being a U.S. territory) one would think they looked into this possibility, as well as any possible airline security footage, interviewing persons on the flight, checking flight manifests and so on.

You need to convince me that the ever so selfish and narcissitic Casey would spend one day in prison when all she had to do was tell LE that her daughter was currently in the custody of her paternal grandparents. As the mother Casey had every right in the world to do this...nothing illegal about it whatsoever. Explain to me why Casey would go to jail for this?


I wonder if LE even knows about this Caylee being in PR theory to ask Amy about it?

[barskin&co.]

Originally Posted by mosey2
Casey is developmentally "stuck" at around 10 years old, IMO
She must have had a tragedy around that age.
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But 10 year olds dont go around having sex with every Tom Dick and Harry. lol JO


Well, actually, oversexualiation might indeed come from being emotionally stuck in an infantile state. But, let's remember, young girls who are are sexually overactive should not be compared to sociopaths like Casey.

[Boxer]

Gotta go to bed. Grandchildren wore my hubby and myself out today.. Have a peaceful night everyone. Prayers going straight to heaven for our Caylee:rose:


that kind of tired is a blessing

[shelbar53]

Why are the cops at the Anthony's house?

they must be horney

[rosejustrose]

Our dollars pay for far more and far less consequential on a second to second basis.

:)

yeah, let's not even go there, IMO:mad:

[concernedmom]

they must be horney

SPEW!:lol:

[frances1]

Sociopathy (Which I believe is her problem) isn't treatable and you don't get institutionalized for it. It's a pattern of behavior, chosen by the person who has it and can only be affected if that person wants it to be. Sociopaths are all narcissists and like the way they are.

Sociopathy doesn't force a person to kill, that is personal choice anyway. There's nothing they can do with Casey, unfortunately.

Correct, there's nothing they can do with her. Why harbor her in their home? She's an adult now, and must face her own demons.

[concernedmom]

Please, ladies, you've got to keep in mind that you have some erstwhile Male Posters here!

And we embarrass easily! (well, maybe not me but possibly some of the other ones!).

:)


:lol::lol:

[Joan Weiss]

I agree, Joan. There's been a lot of speculation based on Casey's conversations with friends that George and Cindy may have been next. IIRC, she stated that she was going to get the house and already lined up a room mate. :eek:You know, that's not so far-fetched. Cindy and George don't keep in touch with relatives, so there probably wouldn't have been much inquiry. The way Casey lies, I'm sure she would have come up with excuses for why they weren't around. imo

[rosejustrose]

Gotta go to bed. Grandchildren wore my hubby and myself out today.. Have a peaceful night everyone. Prayers going straight to heaven for our Caylee:rose:

Goodnight, nana! Prayers and good wishes for you and yours:rose: Sleep well!

[mags]

Hey dixie! The only problem I have with this scenario is that it would have had to happened at the Anthony house. George clearly stated that he saw Casey and Caylee leave for work as normal on June 16. Either he would have to have been implicated or he's lying about seeing them leave. And, the clothes that Casey was supposedly wearing were found in her car. Either Casey is lying or George is lying under the scenario Caylee drowned in the pool. JMHO.

I was reading your post and a thought struck. Casey and George could have gotten into a fight while Caylee was swimming. They both went into cover up mode. They both felt equually resposible.

[Boxer]

Correct, there's nothing they can do with her. Why harbor her in their home? She's an adult now, and must face her own demons.


You'd think they'd find it hard to look at her. IMO, they don't want family tales outside that house.

[GentleBreeze]

You know, that's not so far-fetched. Cindy and George don't keep in touch with relatives, so there probably wouldn't have been much inquiry. The way Casey lies, I'm sure she would have come up with excuses for why they weren't around. imo

Yes, I am sure she would say that Zanny came by one day and picked up Cindy, George and Caylee and she hasn't seen them since.

:)

imoo

[kakax]

Here is explanation of why HOA were denied and what they are going to do about it....

HOA plans ask judge to reconsider
4:25 p.m.
Karen Wonsetler - the attorney for Chickasaw Oaks Phase 3 homeowners association - said she plans to ask a judge again to issue an injunction to move the protesters several hundred feet away from the Anthony house.

Tonight, association members plan to hand out notices to protesters at the Anthony house about a hearing scheduled for Monday to consider the injunction.

This is the association's attempt to notify the protesters about the request -- a requirement under Florida law. A judge denied the injunction Tuesday, saying there wasn't any notice given to the protesters.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-091608,0,7978381.story

[cloe23]

My hubby just said something only a man would think of ( I think )

He said everytime Casey is arrested she would have to go through a full body cavity search? ( drugs )

If that is so I would just stay put......once would have been enough :shrug:

Anyone know if this is inncorrect feel free to tell me.

:)
I may be wrong but I believe the body search is done only if the person who is being arrested is going to be put in a jail jumpsuit and place in the area with other prisoners including isolation. With Casey her lawyer prob knew she was in custody and was arranging bond so they may have just putting her in a holding tank, without belt, accessories or anything she may harm herself with.
Like a drunk who can't leave until sober. It could be a jail to jail thing too as some are so professional and other so sloppy.
JMO
As for her continuing arrests this is a good thing as each arrest she is required to post more and more bond, JMO finally the monies will run out. IMO

[impartial]

Denied without prejudice means the case can be brought again before another judge. It wasn't thrown out completely.


Denied without prejudice means they can make the motion or seek relief again ... can be to the same judge.

IMO

[rosejustrose]

I was reading your post and a thought struck. Casey and George could have gotten into a fight while Caylee was swimming. They both went into cover up mode. They both felt equually resposible.


WOW. That's a thought! He has been as detached as Casey during this whole process as far as I'm concerned. Anything he's done has been orchestrated by Cindy, not him. And he did really over react to those Caylee is dead comments. You may be on to something, IMO.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I can't get wesh to come up anyone have a link?

[kakax]

I can't get wesh to come up anyone have a link?

I've been looking for a link to live news and can't find one.

[rosejustrose]

You'd think they'd find it hard to look at her. IMO, they don't want family tales outside that house.

I'm beginning to wonder who wrote Casey's script. Maybe her parents or brother know a little bit more than we think. As long as she keeps her mouth shut and they don't find Caylee, she may very well walk. Who, exactly, is she protecting. That's just something I wonder and I also wonder what's in it for her. JMO.

[Boxer]

I can't get wesh to come up anyone have a link?

http://www.wesh.com/index.html

[shelbar53]

Here is explanation of why HOA were denied and what they are going to do about it....

HOA plans ask judge to reconsider
4:25 p.m.
Karen Wonsetler - the attorney for Chickasaw Oaks Phase 3 homeowners association - said she plans to ask a judge again to issue an injunction to move the protesters several hundred feet away from the Anthony house.

Tonight, association members plan to hand out notices to protesters at the Anthony house about a hearing scheduled for Monday to consider the injunction.

This is the association's attempt to notify the protesters about the request -- a requirement under Florida law. A judge denied the injunction Tuesday, saying there wasn't any notice given to the protesters.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-091608,0,7978381.story

sounds right, protesters should be there to address their concerns. well they will need to have at least 10 posters so they can represent a half set of teeth between them , and as a group should be able to put a few sentences together without using swear words. and of course to bring a keg and some hot chicken wings ans smokes

[Joan Weiss]

Our dollars pay for far more and far less consequential on a second to second basis.

:)I agree. Do you think the cops are there to hand out tickets for loitering? imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

http://www.wesh.com/index.html

Still won't come up. I must have a problem with my internet connection. I'll reboot. My TV is wiggin out too so who knows. Thanks. Hope to be back tonight.

[flipflop]

I'm beginning to wonder who wrote Casey's script. Maybe her parents or brother know a little bit more than we think. As long as she keeps her mouth shut and they don't find Caylee, she may very well walk. Who, exactly, is she protecting. That's just something I wonder and I also wonder what's in it for her. JMO.


But where is the script? If she threw it away, where? IMO there is no script and she isn't protecting anyone but herself.

[Boxer]

I'm beginning to wonder who wrote Casey's script. Maybe her parents or brother know a little bit more than we think. As long as she keeps her mouth shut and they don't find Caylee, she may very well walk. Who, exactly, is she protecting. That's just something I wonder and I also wonder what's in it for her. JMO.



It is weird. A little bit of Alfred Hitchcock scripting going on. I think it's a stonewall by the whole family, but that never works out. They will turn and bite each other eventually.

JMO

[shelbar53]

I can't get wesh to come up anyone have a link?

someone said they turn them off from 10-11

[Takotna]

You know, that's not so far-fetched. Cindy and George don't keep in touch with relatives, so there probably wouldn't have been much inquiry. The way Casey lies, I'm sure she would have come up with excuses for why they weren't around. imo

I agree with you, Joan. This didn't even occur to me until I read the 400pg - The more I read, the stronger this idea became.

The only question I would have is how she expected to pay for all the bills associated with having a house! I guess that's my rational-self coming through. I have to keep reminding myself Casey doesn't in a straight line.

AllMO:)

[Joan Weiss]

sounds right, protesters should be there to address their concerns. well they will need to have at least 10 posters so they can represent a half set of teeth between them , and as a group should be able to put a few sentences together without using swear words. and of course to bring a keg and some hot chicken wings ans smokes
how many protesters did you count without teeth? Aside from the two ladies with the dog, of course, whom I'm sure met with your approval. imo