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rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 04:25 PM
A partial explanation of double jeopardy on Wikipedia.



This means to me that any new charges relating to the Child Neglect act can be filed as long as they aren't child neglect. And since murder 1 is a different charge but is related to the child neglect, it is not double jeopardy. JMHO

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_jeopardy

Also, they may very well find Caylee's remains in another jurisdiction or another state. JMHO.

penguinlady
09-16-2008, 04:26 PM
Just out of interest this profile says that ZG aka 'Beba' lives in Kissimee, Flevoland. Is that near to where Casey lived? Sorry if I'm being daft but being from the UK I'm just not sure!


Kissimee is about 30 minutes away from Orlando. Depending on traffic! Very close to Universal and all the theme parks.

K

Pooh
09-16-2008, 04:26 PM
I had no way to get on. Hang in there. It only took them 5 minutes to fix it after they got here.


I heard Baez saying Casey was standing up to the LE. What's that about?

Caylee:rose::rose:
Hum - sticking to her story sounds like that is what is happening. She has to lie to cover her own arse at this point. Nothing else matters to her. The longer she lies, the greater chance some juror will find reasonable doubt. Casey will never, ever tell the truth with regards to what really happened to Caylee. LE will give us the best guess as to what really happened. They have all the pieces.

SavannahStar
09-16-2008, 04:26 PM
Hi :seeya:


A legal brief on double jeopardy would be several pages of citations and argument ... In a nutshell:

I think LE screwed up by filing the neglect charges when they did. Now they are faced with a November trial date. They have put the pressure on to find Caylee before they go to trial.

They run the risk of double jeopardy attaching at the neglect trial, unless they limit the neglect solely to failure to report Caylee missing, and do not present facts or evidence of the circumstances surrounding her missing or the reasons therefore.

This will be hard to do ... Baez can bring these issues up on cross-examination.

The neglect charges, however, wouldn't preclude a subsequent Murder 1 charge ... because of the premeditated intentional aspect of murder 1. But it could preclude lesser homicide charges that would result as a product of neglect ... ie. Casey left Caylee in the car, and Caylee died of heat exhaustion.

I know people will respond to this with Wiki cites ... ;)

IMO


Oh yeh.....Wiki gets a workout on here. :lol: Thanks, impartial....I'm partial to hearing an opinion from a REAL attorney like you.

jammies
09-16-2008, 04:26 PM
I have a neighbor who reports everything to the FBI complete with screen shots of imagined crimes too!



Glad FBI has been in on Caylee's case for a long while now. They always look nice when they testify in murder cases.


go the the Websleuths link I posted above. Someone befriended Beba and she answered her back on myspace.

The poster who sent all the info (:rolleyes:) to the FBI is on there too!

beetlebrow
09-16-2008, 04:27 PM
HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLP.........how are u guys viewing Beba's MYSPACE.....it is set to private :shrug:

Shellberry
09-16-2008, 04:27 PM
Juliette Lewis has had a very successful career for a young actor:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000496/

I don't think she ever counted on playing a major role in the warped fantasies of Casey Anthony, though.

dont forget, caseys 'juliette' is spelled Juliet
(no tte at the end)


imo/jmo

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 04:28 PM
OMG :eek:.....you've solved the case!!!!! Better get this info to LE asap :hat:


Nah, I think I'll just call Cindy and get her all stirred up.

:D

Acorn
09-16-2008, 04:28 PM
Just out of interest this profile says that ZG aka 'Beba' lives in Kissimee, Flevoland. Is that near to where Casey lived? Sorry if I'm being daft but being from the UK I'm just not sure!

Oh....that reminds me. I looked up under the Florida approved daycare providers through DCF a while back for anyone named Gonzalez...I think there were 2 in Kissimmee. Gonzalez Family Daycare Home and another close by.
Rats, I didn't save it and I have to leave soon.

I wonder if Casey got the Gonzalez name from that list or whatever.

It still bugs me how she got that particular Zenaida's name and knew she went to the Sawgrass apts.

Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 04:28 PM
It was thought that the prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse rape case knew what he was doing also.
JMO

This is not NC and this is not the Duke case.

Pooh
09-16-2008, 04:29 PM
This has probably been posted, but found it interesting

J P Chatt? Ricardo brother, I believe casey lived with him. Does resemble Caylee.

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/could-this-be-caylees-father/
WOW! He really does!!!

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 04:29 PM
Oh, poor girl, I wonder how many Scott Petersons came forth and cried about how affected their lives were. She needs to be suing places if they are discriminating against her because of this Caylee case, there is no need to interview this woman again in my book, unless its at police headquarters. moo

Could she be getting paid for the interview or maybe doing the interview in hopes of being contacted by one of the rags that do pay, sort of like Casey's friend Christen did? JMHO.

beetlebrow
09-16-2008, 04:30 PM
Nah, I think I'll just call Cindy and get her all stirred up.

:D

Forget the phone....for heavens sake...just go to her front door.....that way we can all watch her reaction on the Webcam :biggrin:

Boxer
09-16-2008, 04:30 PM
Could she be getting paid for the interview or maybe doing the interview in hopes of being contacted by one of the rags that do pay, sort of like Casey's friend Christen did? JMHO.


imo, probably.

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 04:31 PM
The only audio release we heard was when some guy named Patrick visited Casey. Apparently he went to high school with her, she didn't recognize him - until after he left.

But you're right, ZG was never mentioned in that visit.

After that, Casey cancelled all visits with friends (IF any had already signed up), opting to only have family during the 3 visiting times of the week. Eventually, she'd turn all of them away. Until she was released on bond and then it was like old home week - hugs and kisses.

Then where is all this "Waters rushed to visit Casey in jail" coming from. I'm sooooo confused:confused:

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 04:31 PM
Forget the phone....for heavens sake...just go to her front door.....that way we can all watch her reaction on the Webcam :biggrin:

Ooooh, good idea!

st777jo
09-16-2008, 04:32 PM
Can we give these people the benefit of the doubt? Sheesh, they haven't even presented anything in court. Remember Casey? She is the one that has lied here?

I know the FBI has been in on this investigation, I feel sure that profilers are giving them ideas on how to handle this pathological liar.

I don't understand why some people just jump to the conclusion that these DA's, investigators are crooked. So far I haven't seen any abuse of power.


Isn't that the truth? I can't understand how some people find that not reporting a child missing is ok. Its not in my book. jmo

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 04:32 PM
Who is Rose? tia

penguinlady
09-16-2008, 04:32 PM
:lol: And people doubted that it was the same Zenaida! BUSTED!


That just proves that it isn't Casey's Zenaida. I think that is what the majority of the posters here have been trying to say.

K

jammies
09-16-2008, 04:32 PM
imo, probably.



And who could blame her? Someone she doesn't know from Adam has dragged her name through the mud. I feel for this lady.

Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 04:32 PM
I have a neighbor who reports everything to the FBI complete with screen shots of imagined crimes too!



Glad FBI has been in on Caylee's case for a long while now. They always look nice when they testify in murder cases.


spew! There goes the Diet Coke.:punch:

Margo555
09-16-2008, 04:32 PM
Nah, I think I'll just call Cindy and get her all stirred up.

:D

:lol::lol:

babblefishie
09-16-2008, 04:33 PM
This has probably been posted, but found it interesting

J P Chatt? Ricardo brother, I believe casey lived with him. Does resemble Caylee.

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/could-this-be-caylees-father/

WOW there truly IS a shocking similarity between their facial features.
:eek:

Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 04:33 PM
Hi :seeya:


A legal brief on double jeopardy would be several pages of citations and argument ... In a nutshell:

I think LE screwed up by filing the neglect charges when they did. Now they are faced with a November trial date. They have put the pressure on to find Caylee before they go to trial.

They run the risk of double jeopardy attaching at the neglect trial, unless they limit the neglect solely to failure to report Caylee missing, and do not present facts or evidence of the circumstances surrounding her missing or the reasons therefore.

This will be hard to do ... Baez can bring these issues up on cross-examination.

The neglect charges, however, wouldn't preclude a subsequent Murder 1 charge ... because of the premeditated intentional aspect of murder 1. But it could preclude lesser homicide charges that would result as a product of neglect ... ie. Casey left Caylee in the car, and Caylee died of heat exhaustion.

I know people will respond to this with Wiki cites ... ;)

IMO


What is your "attorney" opinion of the fact that the DA in Florida is well aware of the double jeopardy snag he faces and will act accordingly?

5boxersmom
09-16-2008, 04:33 PM
I have family there boxersmom. They were hit hard. I hope you are ok?! They might not have electric back for a week...:eek:

She is the grandma of the 11 year old that ended up in the hospital over this mess. :(

We all are ok. Hope your family is too. All the schools are closed. No ice to be found. Scary.

I wondered who the grandma was. I forgot about her. Thanks.

Caylee:rose:

Albini
09-16-2008, 04:34 PM
WOW! He really does!!!

WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man do they ever look alike.:eek:

WillowInFlight
09-16-2008, 04:34 PM
This has probably been posted, but found it interesting

J P Chatt? Ricardo brother, I believe casey lived with him. Does resemble Caylee.

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/could-this-be-caylees-father/
Oh wow, they do look a lot alike.

frances1
09-16-2008, 04:34 PM
Don't forget (although everyone always seems to) that there was a REAL Zenaida Hernandez-Gonzales in the Orlando area whose office was broken into not long before this case broke. IMO Casey was somehow involved in this burglary. Casey likes to steal identities, remember?

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 04:34 PM
Then where is all this "Waters rushed to visit Casey in jail" coming from. I'm sooooo confused:confused:


I have no idea. This is the first I've heard about it.

:shrug:

The OCSO did put out a visitor list at one time and I don't believe I ever saw his name on there. There was Baez, Walsh, the parents, Lee, Patrick, Frank (Patrick's dad I believe), Baez' investigator.....but never saw a Waters on there.

5boxersmom
09-16-2008, 04:36 PM
Hum - sticking to her story sounds like that is what is happening. She has to lie to cover her own arse at this point. Nothing else matters to her. The longer she lies, the greater chance some juror will find reasonable doubt. Casey will never, ever tell the truth with regards to what really happened to Caylee. LE will give us the best guess as to what really happened. They have all the pieces.

OH I see. No I don't think she will ever tell the truth.

Caylee:rose:

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 04:36 PM
Ok, I know most hate me right now, lol, but if you look at this pic of Zenaida in the back, dosent it almost look like there is a little brown haired girl sitting there?

http://www.myspace.com/166182731

I know I am prob seeing things, but does anyone else see that?

No one hates you:rose: Maybe it does look like a little girl but the power of suggestion is very powerful, but, yeah, maybe. IMO, this person wouldn't be stupid enough to put up a pic with Caylee in it. JMO.

penguinlady
09-16-2008, 04:36 PM
Don't forget (although everyone always seems to) that there was a REAL Zenaida Hernandez-Gonzales in the Orlando area whose office was broken into not long before this case broke. IMO Casey was somehow involved in this burglary. Casey likes to steal identities, remember?

IIRC she lived in Brevard County about 45-60 minutes away.

I could be wrong though.

K

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 04:37 PM
WOW there truly IS a shocking similarity between their facial features.
:eek:

What would it matter if he WAS her father?

day2day
09-16-2008, 04:37 PM
We all are ok. Hope your family is too. All the schools are closed. No ice to be found. Scary.

I wondered who the grandma was. I forgot about her. Thanks.

Caylee:rose:

I have heard how scary it is there. I am so happy you are ok..and yvw...

Caylee...:rose:

Albini
09-16-2008, 04:37 PM
:lol::lol:


OT, I read your siggy line and now there is corn on the moniter. Thats too funny!!!! :lol:

Sorry. On topic..... I really dont know much about the double jeopardy topic, but its interesting to learn about.

st777jo
09-16-2008, 04:38 PM
Anyone have a web cam link. TIA

steffaroob4
09-16-2008, 04:39 PM
Stef you make a whole lotta sense. Thanks for being here. Reading your posts helps me keep my sanity.

I have an old myspace I use, if I set the name to ZG, I would bet you I would get hundreds of new friends, many the same snoopers that are now friends with casey, what would the prove? I don't mind people sleuthing, but let's try to remember what is really behind most of the accounts, because we just don't know if it a kid joking around or just some innocent person.

Albini
09-16-2008, 04:39 PM
What would it matter if he WAS her father?


In the grand scope of the case or to us in general? :confused:

1.In the grand scope..he ALSO has lost a child. Probably one he didnt even know he had.

2. That means Casey lied again and Caylees father isnt dead....which is a pretty big whopper.

3. To us, nothing other then to speculate the above.

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 04:40 PM
I wonder if casey had any kittens or puppies that died when she was young....i can just see cindy finding casey with a dead pet..and that blank stare on her face saying...it's not my fault...he jumped up on me...

Rebel Rouzer
09-16-2008, 04:40 PM
jammies thanks for the link. Most of us knew this woman was being put through the ringer and lied about and harassed all because of Casey.

Casey used this poor womans name in her lies to police and now her life has been turned upside down because of it. The only ZG that Casey used as her nanny is in Casey's head. People need to leave this woman alone. She has small children for petes sake.
If one of her children is harmed due to the lack of responsibility and ignorance of others. It is going to make a sad situation even worse.

Of course those who won't leave her alone and won't stop with the lies about her don't care about justice and dignity for Caylee either so why should we expect them to have some respect for ZG's children.

Sad Sad Sad. :(

day2day
09-16-2008, 04:41 PM
Anyone have a web cam link. TIA

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
mine isn't working right now :(...

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 04:41 PM
I have an old myspace I use, if I set the name to ZG, I would bet you I would get hundreds of new friends, many the same snoopers that are now friends with casey, what would the prove? I don't mind people sleuthing, but let's try to remember what is really behind most of the accounts, because we just don't know if it a kid joking around or just some innocent person.

or some psycho

Albini
09-16-2008, 04:42 PM
I wonder if casey had any kittens or puppies that died when she was young....i can just see cindy finding casey with a dead pet..and that blank stare on her face saying...it's not my fault...he jumped up on me...

Dying pets, arson and bed wetting are some of the profilers areas of interest when looking into the childhood of serial killers.

WinnieLeigh7
09-16-2008, 04:42 PM
How do you know that's really Zenaida? cause someone posted that myspace link?

just getting here...gonna guess you got the link by now...

SavannahStar
09-16-2008, 04:42 PM
This is not NC and this is not the Duke case.

Geez Reggie....the poster didn't say or imply it was. He/She was just making a point.

I wish I had thought to post, "This is not CA and this is not the Peterson case" every time someone brings up Scott Peterson or Laci. :)

Fallen Angel
09-16-2008, 04:42 PM
It was thought that the prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse rape case knew what he was doing also.
JMO

YOU DID? oh vey. I knew from day one he was a looney tune.

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 04:43 PM
I have an old myspace I use, if I set the name to ZG, I would bet you I would get hundreds of new friends, many the same snoopers that are now friends with casey, what would the prove? I don't mind people sleuthing, but let's try to remember what is really behind most of the accounts, because we just don't know if it a kid joking around or just some innocent person.

or some really nice ladies you wouldn't mind having lunch with..:)

st777jo
09-16-2008, 04:43 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
mine isn't working right now :(...

Thank you much. Wonder whats wrong with the cams?

cloe23
09-16-2008, 04:44 PM
:seeya:
Anyone know what LE found when obtaining Casey's and the Anthony's bank records?
I wonder if there was any paper trial of regular payments to the nanny.
Or was Casey receiving any kind of public assistance that may have paid for Kaylee's daycare? One would think that if any of the Anthony's paid for Kaylee's nanny that they would pay with a check for tax deduction reasons. IMO
I am sure this has been hashed and I apologize for asking, I am so far behind with this case.
Cloe

Courtney
09-16-2008, 04:44 PM
Oh, without a doubt. There are lots of Zeniadas around there, why she is so special is beyond me, besides the fact she was the one who was at Sawgrass, well I am not buying she dosen't know how Casey knew her, looking at what we can see of her myspace she seems kinda out there, I dont see how anyone can just jump to the conclusion she is just innocent just because she got back to someone via myspace so quickly. Why is she drawing attention to herself in the first place? She didn't even show her face last time so its not like employers were going to know she was the exact one. moo

ITA. Weird how she is the one that everyone is focusing on...

Just for interest, this is a list of Zenaida Gonzalez's who are listed as having telephone numbers in Florida. At least 12 and those are the ones who haven't gone unlisted because of this case...JMO

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=zenaida+gonzalez+florida&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK293&pb=r&sa=X&oi=rwp&ct=title

SavannahStar
09-16-2008, 04:45 PM
What would it matter if he WAS her father?


Zip, nada, zilch. :beer:

impartial
09-16-2008, 04:45 PM
What is your "attorney" opinion of the fact that the DA in Florida is well aware of the double jeopardy snag he faces and will act accordingly?


I have a feeling the State Attorney's office is not too happy about having to go forward in November ... and why the leaks to put pressure on Casey. They waited as long as they could to file charges prior to her release the first time. The State Attorney didn't have her arrested ... local LE did. The State Attorney is stuck with it.

They will have to be extremely careful on how they present the neglect case.

I need to go look at the charging affidavit and see what is in there. If I were the State Attorney, I would consider dismissing the neglect charges, and go forward on the economic charges.


IMO

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 04:46 PM
What would it matter if he WAS her father?


I didn't think Casey had even met Ricardo or Chatt at the time Caylee was conceived?

:shrug:

chrissybot
09-16-2008, 04:46 PM
I wonder if casey had any kittens or puppies that died when she was young....i can just see cindy finding casey with a dead pet..and that blank stare on her face saying...it's not my fault...he jumped up on me...
:eek:scary thought.

Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 04:48 PM
Geez Reggie....the poster didn't say or imply it was. He/She was just making a point.

I wish I had thought to post, "This is not CA and this is not the Peterson case" every time someone brings up Scott Peterson or Laci. :)

Bringing up the Duke case Prosecutor to imply that the Florida Prosecutor is doing anything against the law is unacceptable. That is why I mentioned it.

Courtney
09-16-2008, 04:48 PM
This is interesting as well - seems as if ZG's name is not so uncommon after all and there is apparently more of them in Florida than any other state in the US!

Name Popularity of Zenaida Gonzalez, Florida

http://names.whitepages.com/Florida/Zenaida/Gonzalez

day2day
09-16-2008, 04:48 PM
Thank you much. Wonder whats wrong with the cams?

They are trying to get us to use a 12 step program? Really i have no clue..they only work when something isn't happening..

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 04:49 PM
Did LE go to Ca. today? anyone know thanks


Hi dixie! No, they're going Thursday. Casey bonded out around noon or so, I think. Anyway, she was home in time for lunch. MOO

steffaroob4
09-16-2008, 04:49 PM
or some psycho

lol

I believe there in NO ZG.

casey didn't have a job, why would she need a nanny.
cindy said she watched caylee while casey partied.
casey had no money to pay a nanny.
casey hasn't seen her child in months, what kind of parent would hold back true info when they have no idea what is going on with their child.
ZG, if she is real doesn't have a car trunk that smelled like death and tests show there was a decomposing body in it, that I know of.
seems casey was a little desperate stealing money from a friend, does an innocent person steal from friends?
casey slept with mutilple LE officers, so why wouldn't she ask any of them for help to find ZG???

WinnieLeigh7
09-16-2008, 04:49 PM
I have a feeling the State Attorney's office is not too happy about having to go forward in November ... and why the leaks to put pressure on Casey. They waited as long as they could to file charges prior to her release the first time. The State Attorney didn't have her arrested ... local LE did. The State Attorney is stuck with it.

They will have to be extremely careful on how they present the neglect case.

I need to go look at the charging affidavit and see what is in there. If I were the State Attorney, I would consider dismissing the neglect charges, and go forward on the economic charges.


IMO


Are you a defense attorney?

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 04:51 PM
How do you know that's really Zenaida? cause someone posted that myspace link?

Well the name was on there big as life.

People don't lie on the internet. :no:

SavannahStar
09-16-2008, 04:51 PM
Bringing up the Duke case Prosecutor to imply that the Florida Prosecutor is doing anything against the law is unacceptable. That is why I mentioned it.


You read that post that way? I sure didn't.

anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 04:51 PM
:lol: And people doubted that it was the same Zenaida! BUSTED!

DG, what are you talking about? No one doubted there is a REAL ZFG. Just not the one CASEY says it is. Casey was shown this womans picture and said NO it wasn' her. Casey also said that ZFG had no children. This woman obviously does.

You are very mixed up imo.

CinTN
09-16-2008, 04:51 PM
IIRC she lived in Brevard County about 45-60 minutes away.

I could be wrong though.

K

I did hear that also ,, In the Melbourne area in Brevard county ( east coast)

That is where I just moved from.. I will see if i can find anything out ..

jammies
09-16-2008, 04:52 PM
Anyone have a web cam link. TIA



http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html HOUSE

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html CAM1 Varies

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/t...mobilecam.html TRUCK 25

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/t...mobilecam.html TRUCK 20

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/t...mobilecam.html TRUCK 19

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 04:52 PM
It was thought that the prosecutor in the Duke lacrosse rape case knew what he was doing also.
JMO


His problem was he believed a lying "victim". He was played just like Casey is playing Baez, only from the other side of the aisle, IMO. How sad that those boys almost had their lives ruined because of lies. JMHO.

babblefishie
09-16-2008, 04:53 PM
What would it matter if he WAS her father?

Well, perhaps if he is the father, he would like to know. :shrug:

impartial
09-16-2008, 04:53 PM
Are you a defense attorney?


Nope. :seeya:

Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 04:53 PM
I have a feeling the State Attorney's office is not too happy about having to go forward in November ... and why the leaks to put pressure on Casey. They waited as long as they could to file charges prior to her release the first time. The State Attorney didn't have her arrested ... local LE did. The State Attorney is stuck with it.

They will have to be extremely careful on how they present the neglect case.

I need to go look at the charging affidavit and see what is in there. If I were the State Attorney, I would consider dismissing the neglect charges, and go forward on the economic charges.


IMO

Thank you so much for your opinion, and for answering a question I had but didn't ask: Can they dismiss certain charges.

steffaroob4
09-16-2008, 04:53 PM
I didn't think Casey had even met Ricardo or Chatt at the time Caylee was conceived?

:shrug:

I believe the friendship with that group started around June 2007, I don't think casey kept friends for a long time. That is gist I got from the documents.

Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 04:55 PM
Well the name was on there big as life.

People don't lie on the internet. :no:

Shoot, I was just saying that to Brad and Angelina at dinner last night.

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 04:55 PM
I believe the friendship with that group started around June 2007, I don't think casey kept friends for a long time. That is gist I got from the documents.

That's what I thought I remembered. Seems we go thru this "Chatt's the daddy" every couple of weeks.

Albini
09-16-2008, 04:55 PM
Nope. :seeya:

Just wondering (since I know nadda about law in the US) can you be either a defense or prosecution attny? Do they have different requirements?

If you are a defense atty can you then switch to a prosecution atty or do you need additional schooling?

(Sorry, I honestly dont know much about lawyers)

jammies
09-16-2008, 04:56 PM
jammies thanks for the link. Most of us knew this woman was being put through the ringer and lied about and harassed all because of Casey.

Casey used this poor womans name in her lies to police and now her life has been turned upside down because of it. The only ZG that Casey used as her nanny is in Casey's head. People need to leave this woman alone. She has small children for petes sake.
If one of her children is harmed due to the lack of responsibility and ignorance of others. It is going to make a sad situation even worse.

Of course those who won't leave her alone and won't stop with the lies about her don't care about justice and dignity for Caylee either so why should we expect them to have some respect for ZG's children.

Sad Sad Sad. :(


ITA. This woman has been put through enough. The people who are badgering LE and FBI believe they are very important to this case. WS is has quite a few and it seems they've infiltrated IS. :rolleyes:

Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 04:56 PM
This has probably been posted, but found it interesting

J P Chatt? Ricardo brother, I believe casey lived with him. Does resemble Caylee.

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/could-this-be-caylees-father/This one also.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/caylee%20anthony/mrseden2004/Casey%20Anthony%20Case/Caylee14.jpg?o=59

penguinlady
09-16-2008, 04:57 PM
I did hear that also ,, In the Melbourne area in Brevard county ( east coast)

That is where I just moved from.. I will see if i can find anything out ..

It was on the Florida Today's Mom's board (I think). I would help you look (as I am from the area you left!) but gotta go pick up my boy.

Have a nice evening everyone!

K

:rose:for caylee

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 04:57 PM
The Arson caused the death of the man. The neglect in this case did not cause Caylee Anthony's death. :read:

I tend to agree. I think it was depraved indifference that caused Casey to kill Caylee along with a very big green eyed monster called jealousy. JMO.

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 04:58 PM
This has probably been posted, but found it interesting

J P Chatt? Ricardo brother, I believe casey lived with him. Does resemble Caylee.

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/could-this-be-caylees-father/


She does look more like him than she does any of the Anthonys. JMO.

day2day
09-16-2008, 04:58 PM
TES HEADQUARTERS SEVERLY DAMAGED
Due to hurricane Ike the Texas EquuSearch headquarters have been severely damaged. Texas EquuSearch will resume its work as soon as we can recover from damage. Please stand by for further updates.

http://www.texasequusearch.org/

Please remember Tim and his group in your prayers...

:rose:

Albini
09-16-2008, 04:58 PM
If Casey is scared for her family and being threatened, why would she identify the real Zenaida, that would make no sense. moo


Why would she point the finger to another person by the same name?

If she is that scared that she doesnt want the "kidnappers" to know she is talking to the police..then saying "Jane Doe took her" would make more sense.

By pointing her finger to another women by the same name she is still putting that name out there to the public, which then brings attention to any Zenadia.

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 04:58 PM
Shoot, I was just saying that to Brad and Angelina at dinner last night.

Oooooh, so it was your house they called me from?

Margo555
09-16-2008, 04:58 PM
Kissimee is right next door to Orlando. So close, that it's considered part of the whole Orlando Tourist area.

I believe that Kissimee is where Casey goes to Baez' office each day. MOO

steffaroob4
09-16-2008, 04:59 PM
myspace bombshell!!!

I am friends with Phil Spector and Punkin Pie, so there must be a link between the two of them.(just kidding)


Why isn't LE giving us any new docs? They have to have a lot more than those 400 pages, why aren't they sharing?

Albini
09-16-2008, 04:59 PM
When a lawyer passes their bar exam in the United States, they are just a lawyer. Most specialities just come from work experience; however, in some states, you can meet additional requirements to become "certified" in a certain area of law.

Short answer....prosecutors and defense attorneys often switch sides at least once in their career, for one reason or another.


Okay, Thanks!:seeya:

happy2bme
09-16-2008, 04:59 PM
Two days after all this was connected Zenaida goes private, Laura flew off to New York and someone deletes 3 comments Laura had left to William.

Not a coincidence.

I would go private also if someone used my name and complete strangers where looking up my profile.

WinnieLeigh7
09-16-2008, 04:59 PM
Nope. :seeya:



LOL :seeya:


Are you a Prosecutor??

anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 05:00 PM
If Casey is scared for her family and being threatened, why would she identify the real Zenaida, that would make no sense. moo

ROFL! So what is her reason now not to tell the truth. Seriously the girl is an admitted liar. I am sorry but nothing she says is believable. You might not like to hear the truth but one day you will need to come to terms with it, that Casey is not a truthteller, and the odds are that Cayee will never come home alive. I think it is sad she has you believing her lies imo.

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:00 PM
Can we give these people the benefit of the doubt? Sheesh, they haven't even presented anything in court. Remember Casey? She is the one that has lied here?

I know the FBI has been in on this investigation, I feel sure that profilers are giving them ideas on how to handle this pathological liar.

I don't understand why some people just jump to the conclusion that these DA's, investigators are crooked. So far I haven't seen any abuse of power.

Hi k! Do you think it's possible that they'll bring in a special prosecutor? Maybe someone licensed to practice in FL who has handled a murder trial without a body before? JMHO.

babblefishie
09-16-2008, 05:00 PM
Boy if one more police officer comes forward or is outed for knockin' boots with Princess Pantsonfire, I think the police department should all chip in and get her some honourary blue OCSD knee pads. :D

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:01 PM
TES HEADQUARTERS SEVERLY DAMAGED
Due to hurricane Ike the Texas EquuSearch headquarters have been severely damaged. Texas EquuSearch will resume its work as soon as we can recover from damage. Please stand by for further updates.

http://www.texasequusearch.org/

Please remember Tim and his group in your prayers...

:rose:

Awwwww, man. They didn't need that.

:rose:

impartial
09-16-2008, 05:01 PM
Just wondering (since I know nadda about law in the US) can you be either a defense or prosecution attny? Do they have different requirements?

If you are a defense atty can you then switch to a prosecution atty or do you need additional schooling?

(Sorry, I honestly dont know much about lawyers)


You can be both, just not at the same time :D

A lot of prosecutors when they leave the DA's office become defense attorneys.

IMO

kakax
09-16-2008, 05:01 PM
That's what I thought I remembered. Seems we go thru this "Chatt's the daddy" every couple of weeks.

And ZFG could be real.

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:02 PM
I have a neighbor who reports everything to the FBI complete with screen shots of imagined crimes too!



Glad FBI has been in on Caylee's case for a long while now. They always look nice when they testify in murder cases.


:lol: Not at the FBI but your neighbor. I have one of those, too. I know this is O/T but she has parlor furniture positioned so she always has a birdseye view of what's going on in the neighborhood. Good thing, too. She actually called LE and stopped a home burglary in progress. Bless her 90 year old heart. Ok, back on topic. Sorry.

happy2bme
09-16-2008, 05:02 PM
That's what I thought I remembered. Seems we go thru this "Chatt's the daddy" every couple of weeks.


and Zanny has Caylee.

Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 05:02 PM
Boy if one more police officer comes forward or is outed for knockin' boots with Princess Pantsonfire, I think the police department should all chip in and get her some honourary blue OCSD knee pads. :D
Babblefishie!!!!! Eeeew!barf

Pooh
09-16-2008, 05:02 PM
I'm not understanding why everyone is talking about the possibility of ZFG. I'm sure she is real - now whether there is one connected to Casey, I don't know. But don't forget that Casey had a dead body in the trunk of her car with DNA evidence linked to Caylee. So regardless of ZFG, Casey had a dead Caylee in her trunk. This has nothing to do with ZFG imo.

Albini
09-16-2008, 05:03 PM
You can be both, just not at the same time :D

A lot of prosecutors when they leave the DA's office become defense attorneys.

IMO

That would be a new def of arguing with yourself.

Thank you :)

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:03 PM
Juliette Lewis has had a very successful career for a young actor:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000496/

I don't think she ever counted on playing a major role in the warped fantasies of Casey Anthony, though.


Just like the Beatles didn't anticipate their White Album would result in the Tate and LoBianco murders. Go figure the sick, criminal mind:shrug:

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:04 PM
And ZFG could be real.


That too.

:shrug:

babblefishie
09-16-2008, 05:04 PM
Babblefishie!!!!! Eeeew!barf

Sorry, I couldn't help myself heh heh....

The term community bicycle does come to mind however.

anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 05:05 PM
I didn't think Casey had even met Ricardo or Chatt at the time Caylee was conceived?

:shrug:

We have no idea what or who Casey met at this point in time. I put NOTHING, and I mean ABSOLUTELY nothing past what she is capable of or who she has met in the past.

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:06 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.htmlFrom your link:

Judge DENIES HOA injunction!

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:06 PM
Who is Rose? tia

I'll tell you who it's not - me:eek:

deep*fear
09-16-2008, 05:07 PM
I didn't think Casey had even met Ricardo or Chatt at the time Caylee was conceived?

:shrug:

JP Chatt was Jesse Grunds roommate around the time Caylee was conceived. Casey doesn't appear to be a one man woman, imo

Boxer
09-16-2008, 05:07 PM
And who could blame her? Someone she doesn't know from Adam has dragged her name through the mud. I feel for this lady.

sorry, had to rescue the construction guys from being licked to death by my killer dog Jax The Boxer.

yeah, I don't blame her really either. can you imagine having this happen to you just because you looked at an apartment? Even if it was a floor above the Dreaded Secret Chambers of Zanny The Nanny?

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:08 PM
BONES FOUND ?!! NEAR LEE VISTA BLVD CONSTRUCTION SITE
Scrolling at the bottom of this video
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:09 PM
Don't forget (although everyone always seems to) that there was a REAL Zenaida Hernandez-Gonzales in the Orlando area whose office was broken into not long before this case broke. IMO Casey was somehow involved in this burglary. Casey likes to steal identities, remember?


That's a good point that I had forgotten. I remember reading her blog just can't remember where it was posted. She looked nothing like either of the ZG on the myspace sites posted today, male or female:)

Pooh
09-16-2008, 05:09 PM
I wonder how proud George Anthony is that his daughter is apparently having her way with Orange County's finest. :o

Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 05:09 PM
JP Chatt was Jesse Grunds roommate around the time Caylee was conceived. Casey doesn't appear to be a one man woman, imoYep, it figures and we can talk about it if we want to.

Didn't someone say the father was well off? Isn't Chatt's daddy well-off? imo

Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 05:09 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.htmlFrom your link:

Judge DENIES HOA injunction!

Whoo Hoo Freedom of Speech is alive and well on Hopespring Drive.


:patriot:

anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 05:09 PM
JP Chatt was Jesse Grunds roommate around the time Caylee was conceived. Casey doesn't appear to be a one man woman, imo

TY deep*fear. I knew I had seen something about it a long time ago, but could not remember who or the link where to find it.

:beer:

Boxer
09-16-2008, 05:10 PM
I'll tell you who it's not - me:eek:

got a myspace? anyone been doing screen shots? anyone been doing regular shots? :D sunglasses?

impartial
09-16-2008, 05:10 PM
BONES FOUND ?!! NEAR LEE VISTA BLVD CONSTRUCTION SITE
Scrolling at the bottom of this video
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html



Animal bones.

IMO

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:11 PM
Oh, without a doubt. There are lots of Zeniadas around there, why she is so special is beyond me, besides the fact she was the one who was at Sawgrass, well I am not buying she dosen't know how Casey knew her, looking at what we can see of her myspace she seems kinda out there, I dont see how anyone can just jump to the conclusion she is just innocent just because she got back to someone via myspace so quickly. Why is she drawing attention to herself in the first place? She didn't even show her face last time so its not like employers were going to know she was the exact one. moo

Until this case, I had never heard the name Zenaida. I didn't realize it was such a popular name.:shrug:

bluwaters
09-16-2008, 05:11 PM
Dr. Phil" to tape show Wednesday on Caylee Anthony case; neighbor, protesters, Mark NeJame to take part

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-take.html



"Dr. Phil" on Wednesday will tape a show about the Caylee Anthony case. No air date, however, has been set.

Taking part in Los Angeles will be a neighbor of the Anthony family; Mark NeJame, who is attorney to grandparents Cindy and George Anthony; and reporter Jessica D'Onofrio of WKMG-Channel 6. WKMG airs "Dr. Phil" at 7 weeknights.

The program also will look at protesters and supporters of the Anthony family.

Casey Anthony, Caylee's tight-lipped mother, was released from jail for the third time Tuesday.

The Anthony case will be part of a show that Dr. Phil McGraw's team calls "Behind the Headlines."


:lol:Please send Lenny P back! Anyone but Dr. Phil!

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:11 PM
BONES FOUND ?!! NEAR LEE VISTA BLVD CONSTRUCTION SITE
Scrolling at the bottom of this video
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html

Police say it's an old "hunting ground" and think the bones may be animal bones. They have taped off the area and will let CSI pick them up to say for sure.

Geez, is it just me or are there more animal bone discoveries in Orlando than there were in Aruba?

anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 05:11 PM
Please, just because this case affects me does not mean I am living in denial, I am living for hope that Caylee is alive. I know she is probably dead, but I also want to know all about the Zenaida connection, I really dont think that makes me not in touch or anything, I have had MANY friends like Casey Anthony, I know her game, I just find the Zenaida aspect quite faciniating and what to know how Casey knew Zenaida was there. I tend to think outside the box, and I am a horrible devils advocate at times. But dont try to portray it that she has me sucked in.

This particular Zenaida has nothing to do with this case except she was sucked into it as others are trying to again suck her into it again by continually posting about it imo.

Hey Paula
09-16-2008, 05:12 PM
Two days after all this was connected Zenaida goes private, Laura flew off to New York and someone deletes 3 comments Laura had left to William.

Not a coincidence.

Is this the same ZG who gave an in-the-shadows interview? If so, IIRC, wasn't Casey shown her photo and didn't she deny it was the same ZG who babysat Caylee?

babblefishie
09-16-2008, 05:12 PM
I wonder how proud George Anthony is that his daughter is apparently having her way with Orange County's finest. :o

Personally, I think that's why ol' Cinders is trying to get the boards shut down. If they were not aware she was sexually active before Caylee and then took solace in the fact that she was with one man who died in a car crash, finding out she's working her way through the phone book would be quite a shocker.

Cindy can't keep her daughter's knickers on, so she wants to keep our mouths shut about it. IMO. barf

BJames
09-16-2008, 05:12 PM
I wonder who it is that LE wants to see squirm?
All things considered they sure didn't have to make it public that the detective(s) were going to California, and certainly not whom they were indeed going to speak to...for some reason they wanted that information out there.


Just my opinion of course...

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:13 PM
What would it matter if he WAS her father?

Not much, I'm afraid. It'd would add another notch to Casey's belt, IMO.

Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 05:13 PM
Oooooh, so it was your house they called me from?

Yes, right after they spoke with George Clooney at Barskins.

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:13 PM
Whoo Hoo Freedom of Speech is alive and well on Hopespring Drive.


:patriot:

Yes it is!

Rebel Rouzer
09-16-2008, 05:13 PM
ITA. This woman has been put through enough. The people who are badgering LE and FBI believe they are very important to this case. WS is has quite a few and it seems they've infiltrated IS. :rolleyes:


It's also obvious some people do not know how myspace works. People add people they don't know all the time because this person or that person has them on their friends list and on down the line. If my name was mentioned in connection with someone like Casey Anthony I'd get rid of everything on the net until the case was solved and come back anonymous.

This woman has no connection to Casey or Caylee's disappearence. If there is a connection through myspace Thats where it ends. Many many people look at other peoples friends lists on there andtheir profiles. ZG already confirmed she did not look at apartment 210 when she went to check out the apt there. It's getting crazy. People can complain about protesters and mob mentality yet they want to mob this poor woman and her life with her children with all their inane theories and accusations. If her or her children end up getting hurt because of all their lies and accusation and some crzed lunitic actually believes what some are saying and takes it upson themselves to do something to this woman or her children. I hope they can sleep at night knowing they contributed to it. I know i couldn't.

This is very sad IMO. If this woman wants to go on and clear the misinformation up that is running rampid out there then I think she has every right. If she chooses to hide her face or have everyone see her to get her story acoross in hopes that people will leave her alone and let her get back to a normal life then I say so be it. She has every right to defend her name and her children and her life style. She is yet another victim in all of this because of Casey Anthony and those making wild accusations against her and trying to create mob mentality against her to garner credit for their own agenda are contributing to it as well. In My Opinion

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:13 PM
Animal bones.

IMO

Sighs..this is never going to end.

Boxer
09-16-2008, 05:14 PM
Please, just because this case affects me does not mean I am living in denial, I am living for hope that Caylee is alive. I know she is probably dead, but I also want to know all about the Zenaida connection, I really dont think that makes me not in touch or anything, I have had MANY friends like Casey Anthony, I know her game, I just find the Zenaida aspect quite faciniating and what to know how Casey knew Zenaida was there. I tend to think outside the box, and I am a horrible devils advocate at times. But dont try to portray it that she has me sucked in.



courtesy of 5boxersmom from over a month ago.


http://www.amazon.com/Double-Trouble-Squared-Starbuck-Adventure/dp/0152241272/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221599547&sr=8-1

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:14 PM
Awwwww, man. They didn't need that.

:rose:

They sure don't. It is heartbreaking. :rose:

True2Blues
09-16-2008, 05:15 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.htmlFrom your link:

Judge DENIES HOA injunction!


Now that's settled.

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:15 PM
I wonder how proud George Anthony is that his daughter is apparently having her way with Orange County's finest. :o

He'll say she just stopped by the police station to make sure everyone was having a good time and that they looked to her as the "mother" of the group.

:D

WinnieLeigh7
09-16-2008, 05:15 PM
Just wondering (since I know nadda about law in the US) can you be either a defense or prosecution attny? Do they have different requirements?

If you are a defense atty can you then switch to a prosecution atty or do you need additional schooling?

(Sorry, I honestly dont know much about lawyers)


Can be either, varies from case to case...(as for private practices)...

Pooh
09-16-2008, 05:16 PM
Personally, I think that's why ol' Cinders is trying to get the boards shut down. If they were not aware she was sexually active before Caylee and then took solace in the fact that she was with one man who died in a car crash, finding out she's working her way through the phone book would be quite a shocker.

Cindy can't keep her daughter's knickers on, so she wants to keep our mouths shut about it. IMO. barf
Oh crap - I've been gone for a few days because of our power outage. I didn't know Cindy was trying to have the boards shut down!
:confused:

Lorna
09-16-2008, 05:16 PM
Oh yeh.....Wiki gets a workout on here. :lol: Thanks, impartial....I'm partial to hearing an opinion from a REAL attorney like you.

:lol:This is truly a laugh riot.

Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 05:17 PM
He'll say she just stopped by the police station to make sure everyone was having a good time and that they looked to her as the "mother" of the group.

:D
:( I have officially given up even trying to drink anything else today until I turn off the computer.

concernedmom
09-16-2008, 05:17 PM
BONES FOUND ?!! NEAR LEE VISTA BLVD CONSTRUCTION SITE
Scrolling at the bottom of this video
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html

They think they are animal. Maybe that wouldnt be a bad area to take the dogs tothis area and check out .

impartial
09-16-2008, 05:18 PM
Personally, I think that's why ol' Cinders is trying to get the boards shut down. If they were not aware she was sexually active before Caylee and then took solace in the fact that she was with one man who died in a car crash, finding out she's working her way through the phone book would be quite a shocker.

Cindy can't keep her daughter's knickers on, so she wants to keep our mouths shut about it. IMO. barf



Cindy is trying to get the boards shut down?

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:18 PM
Oh crap - I've been gone for a few days because of our power outage. I didn't know Cindy was trying to have the boards shut down!
:confused:

She is? Umm..she can't control her own daughter. I am pretty sure she can't slow down a message board. Freedom of speech is still alive.

JMO

Amy
09-16-2008, 05:19 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.htmlFrom your link:

Judge DENIES HOA injunction!

The only thing said in this link is that the HOA filed, and the decision would be later this week.

Rebel Rouzer
09-16-2008, 05:20 PM
I would go private also if someone used my name and complete strangers where looking up my profile.

Eaxctly. common sense. :seeya:

Lorna
09-16-2008, 05:20 PM
Yes, right after they spoke with George Clooney at Barskins.

;)Ididn't know George Clooney knew Barskins, oh wait, she met him at my house. lol

happy2bme
09-16-2008, 05:20 PM
Cindy is trying to get the boards shut down?

She has been emailing with someone over at WS




http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195)

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:20 PM
The only thing said in this link is that the HOA filed, and the decision would be later this week.

Watch the video to the right where it says "Bones Found Near Home". It's in there.

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:20 PM
They think they are animal. Maybe that wouldnt be a bad area to take the dogs to and check out tho.

I hope they do. Someone has to search for this littleone.

bluwaters
09-16-2008, 05:20 PM
Sorry if these links have already been posted. :seeya:
Where, oh where, is our Lynn? :confused:

Casey Anthony released from jail
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-091608,0,7978381.story

Casey Anthony Out of Jail ... Again
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7441020&version=19&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Casey Anthony Freed From Jail For Third Time; Caylee Search Continues
Detectives Leave Fla. In Caylee Search; Officers Called To Home 42 Times
http://www.local6.com/news/17484847/detail.html

Casey Anthony Released From Jail After Third Arrest
http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html

Casey Anthony Walks Out Of Jail
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/16/casey_back_in_jail__for_now.html

Casey Anthony Home After Release From Jail
Judge Denies HOA Request To Set Limitations For Protesters
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:21 PM
Boy if one more police officer comes forward or is outed for knockin' boots with Princess Pantsonfire, I think the police department should all chip in and get her some honourary blue OCSD knee pads. :D

:lol::lol:Princess Pantsonfire - OMG ROFLMBO.

impartial
09-16-2008, 05:21 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.htmlFrom your link:

Judge DENIES HOA injunction!


Where does it say that?

The article says the judge could rule this week.

:shrug:

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:22 PM
;)Ididn't know George Clooney knew Barskins, oh wait, she met him at my house. lol

Oh Lord.....*slams down piano lid at Jook Joint (ala Color Purple) and tiptoes quietly out of the room*

Yer gonna git it!

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Awwwww, man. They didn't need that.

:rose:

Prayers for Tim and his wonderful group of people who give so much of themselves to help others:rose::rose:

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:22 PM
:lol::lol:Princess Pantsonfire - OMG ROFLMBO.

Princess Pantsonfire...ROFL..(jots this down to use later on my neice)--thanks!

BJames
09-16-2008, 05:22 PM
I just thought I would throw a couple of things out there that I have been mulling over (it seems like forever), but I have never heard/seen them addressed.
OK...the night that Cindy went to TonE's and retrieved Casey..Lee was at the house, it sure didn't seem like he would be a frequent visitor at that point especially for a weekday into the late evening...has anyone ever figured out why he was there?
And...
That same evening George wasn't there, he has said before that Cindy tried to reach him and couldn't for a bit..until 'later'. He wasn't at work apparently...but I have never heard any mention of where he indeed was...has anyone caught that yet?
Also on the first call from the jail Lee makes a reference as to what 'Casey has been putting Mom through' for the past month...have we ever figured out what that was? Or was it meant to be Casey holding Caylee against Cindy and not letting her see the baby?

Thanks for any insight...

...Just my opinion of course...

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:23 PM
Where does it say that?

The article says the judge could rule this week.

:shrug:


It's on the video to the right - "Bones Found Near Home"

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 05:23 PM
Two days after all this was connected Zenaida goes private, Laura flew off to New York and someone deletes 3 comments Laura had left to William.

Not a coincidence.

Are you in contact with le about all this?

impartial
09-16-2008, 05:23 PM
Watch the video to the right where it says "Bones Found Near Home". It's in there.



In the video?

Or are you referring to the restraining order that was denied? That was the restraining order filed by the 12 year old's grandmother .. not the HOA.

IMO

commonguymd
09-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Where does it say that?

The article says the judge could rule this week.

:shrug:

http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

It is in bold at the top.

kakax
09-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Hi k! Do you think it's possible that they'll bring in a special prosecutor? Maybe someone licensed to practice in FL who has handled a murder trial without a body before? JMHO.


I'm sorry I didn't see this earlier...had to help DD with homework. I dunno! Interesting idea though. Wonder how many of these cases have been tried in FL. I kinda liked the woman who cross examined Cindy at the bond hearing. She seemed like she had Cindy's number LOL!

Lorna
09-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Dr. Phil" to tape show Wednesday on Caylee Anthony case; neighbor, protesters, Mark NeJame to take part

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/dr-phil-to-take.html



:lol:Please send Lenny P back! Anyone but Dr. Phil!

I suppose Judge Mathis will be presiding over this trial of Casey's. LOL

Maybe he can sort out the conspiracy theories about Zenaida and Waters and Sam and William and who all who else. lol

happy2bme
09-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Where does it say that?

The article says the judge could rule this week.

:shrug:


http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html)


Meanwhile, a judge has denied a request made by the Homeowner's Association of the Anthonys' East Orange County neighborhood to set limitations for protesters and supporters outside the home.

The injunction called for protesters and supporters to voice their opinions about the case from a vacant lot down the street.

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:24 PM
I'm not understanding why everyone is talking about the possibility of ZFG. I'm sure she is real - now whether there is one connected to Casey, I don't know. But don't forget that Casey had a dead body in the trunk of her car with DNA evidence linked to Caylee. So regardless of ZFG, Casey had a dead Caylee in her trunk. This has nothing to do with ZFG imo.


Thanks for pulling us back in, Pooh:rose:

Peace and justice for Caylee, today and always:rose:

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:25 PM
Where does it say that?

The article says the judge could rule this week.

:shrug:

Meanwhile, a judge has denied a request made by the Homeowner's Association of the Anthonys' East Orange County neighborhood to set limitations for protesters and supporters outside the home.

The injunction called for protesters and supporters to voice their opinions about the case from a vacant lot down the street.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 05:25 PM
Whoo Hoo Freedom of Speech is alive and well on Hopespring Drive.


:patriot::biggrin: :patriot:

bluwaters
09-16-2008, 05:26 PM
Whoo Hoo Freedom of Speech is alive and well on Hopespring Drive.


:patriot:

I am glad. The protesters have been vile, but they aren't worth messing around with our First Amendment rights.
The judge ruled correctly. :patriot:

jmho

Rebel Rouzer
09-16-2008, 05:26 PM
Is this the same ZG who gave an in-the-shadows interview? If so, IIRC, wasn't Casey shown her photo and didn't she deny it was the same ZG who babysat Caylee?

Yes. She didn't know who that ZG was. Never saw her. Is what Casey said. LE checked her out and she is an innocent person who Casey has destroyed her life by uing her name in her lies to LE IMO

Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 05:27 PM
Where does it say that?

The article says the judge could rule this week.

:shrug:It's on the news video.

crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 05:27 PM
In the video?

Or are you referring to the restraining order that was denied? That was the restraining order filed by the 12 year old's grandmother .. not the HOA.

IMO

http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html

Meanwhile, a judge has denied a request made by the Homeowner's Association of the Anthonys' East Orange County neighborhood to set limitations for protesters and supporters outside the home.

impartial
09-16-2008, 05:27 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

It is in bold at the top.


Okay ... thanks !!:seeya:

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 05:27 PM
Two days after all this was connected Zenaida goes private, Laura flew off to New York and someone deletes 3 comments Laura had left to William.

Not a coincidence.


so you think laura has Caylee?

WillowInFlight
09-16-2008, 05:28 PM
I just thought I would throw a couple of things out there that I have been mulling over (it seems like forever), but I have never heard/seen them addressed.
OK...the night that Cindy went to TonE's and retrieved Casey..Lee was at the house, it sure didn't seem like he would be a frequent visitor at that point especially for a weekday into the late evening...has anyone ever figured out why he was there?
And...
That same evening George wasn't there, he has said before that Cindy tried to reach him and couldn't for a bit..until 'later'. He wasn't at work apparently...but I have never heard any mention of where he indeed was...has anyone caught that yet?
Also on the first call from the jail Lee makes a reference as to what 'Casey has been putting Mom through' for the past month...have we ever figured out what that was? Or was it meant to be Casey holding Caylee against Cindy and not letting her see the baby?

Thanks for any insight...

...Just my opinion of course...

I somewhat remember something about George calling Lee and telling him Cindy needed him at the house.

Margo555
09-16-2008, 05:28 PM
Whoo Hoo Freedom of Speech is alive and well on Hopespring Drive.


:patriot:


Constitutional rights have been protected! I felt they would be. Yea!
:patriot:

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:29 PM
BUT the audacity that she thinks this is an area she needs to dictate and control is beyound comprehension.

While Caylee is out there somewhere. SHE has time to read and censor message boards. Unfreakinbelievable.

Caylee...you are LOVED by those who have never met you. :rose:

Hey Paula
09-16-2008, 05:29 PM
Oh wow, they do look a lot alike.

They certainly do look alike.

IMO

Pebbles
09-16-2008, 05:29 PM
lol

I believe there in NO ZG.

casey didn't have a job, why would she need a nanny.
cindy said she watched caylee while casey partied.
casey had no money to pay a nanny.
casey hasn't seen her child in months, what kind of parent would hold back true info when they have no idea what is going on with their child.
ZG, if she is real doesn't have a car trunk that smelled like death and tests show there was a decomposing body in it, that I know of.
seems casey was a little desperate stealing money from a friend, does an innocent person steal from friends?
casey slept with mutilple LE officers, so why wouldn't she ask any of them for help to find ZG???



Great post.

Amy
09-16-2008, 05:29 PM
Watch the video to the right where it says "Bones Found Near Home". It's in there.


Thanks. My computer cuts everything off and goes to buffer. The one I did get a smidge of look @ was about a restraining order between CA and a grandmother---and then the video quit. Will have to wait for a printed link for the details on either, I guess.

babblefishie
09-16-2008, 05:31 PM
BUT the audacity that she thinks this is an area she needs to dictate and control is beyound comprehension.

ITA it does say a lot about the energy she is willing to expend in attempt to control the entire universe. The irony is she ALWAYS makes it worse. But it's like some compulsion. She can't stop herself from getting involved. It's hard to turn away from. :shrug:

bluwaters
09-16-2008, 05:31 PM
Personally, I think that's why ol' Cinders is trying to get the boards shut down. If they were not aware she was sexually active before Caylee and then took solace in the fact that she was with one man who died in a car crash, finding out she's working her way through the phone book would be quite a shocker.

Cindy can't keep her daughter's knickers on, so she wants to keep our mouths shut about it. IMO. *icon snip*

What's this about?
Cindy is trying to get the boards shut down?
What is Cindy doing? :no:

Pebbles
09-16-2008, 05:31 PM
His problem was he believed a lying "victim". He was played just like Casey is playing Baez, only from the other side of the aisle, IMO. How sad that those boys almost had their lives ruined because of lies. JMHO.

:beer: Excellent

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:31 PM
Yep, it figures and we can talk about it if we want to.

Didn't someone say the father was well off? Isn't Chatt's daddy well-off? imo


I thought Casey said Caylee's father was dead:shrug:

Amy
09-16-2008, 05:32 PM
I just thought I would throw a couple of things out there that I have been mulling over (it seems like forever), but I have never heard/seen them addressed.
OK...the night that Cindy went to TonE's and retrieved Casey..Lee was at the house, it sure didn't seem like he would be a frequent visitor at that point especially for a weekday into the late evening...has anyone ever figured out why he was there?
And...
That same evening George wasn't there, he has said before that Cindy tried to reach him and couldn't for a bit..until 'later'. He wasn't at work apparently...but I have never heard any mention of where he indeed was...has anyone caught that yet?
Also on the first call from the jail Lee makes a reference as to what 'Casey has been putting Mom through' for the past month...have we ever figured out what that was? Or was it meant to be Casey holding Caylee against Cindy and not letting her see the baby?

Thanks for any insight...

...Just my opinion of course...


In the initial stories, Lee was called home because Cindy was mightily upset. I can't remember if it said WHY, if it was because she found Casey and not Caylee, or because Casey had been stealing (altho didn't sound like the first time.)

marinewife5
09-16-2008, 05:33 PM
so you think laura has Caylee?

slap me for being stupid, but who's laura?

:chicken:

happy2bme
09-16-2008, 05:34 PM
I thought Casey said Caylee's father was dead:shrug:



There you have it ..."Casey said".

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:34 PM
Please, just because this case affects me does not mean I am living in denial, I am living for hope that Caylee is alive. I know she is probably dead, but I also want to know all about the Zenaida connection, I really dont think that makes me not in touch or anything, I have had MANY friends like Casey Anthony, I know her game, I just find the Zenaida aspect quite faciniating and what to know how Casey knew Zenaida was there. I tend to think outside the box, and I am a horrible devils advocate at times. But dont try to portray it that she has me sucked in.

I understand completely. After all, you're from the Show Me State!!:) I too find the ZG connection interesting and would like to know why Casey pulled that name out of her hat. According to Cindy, where'd that grain of salt go?, she had been hearing about Zanny for years. JMO.

nana6
09-16-2008, 05:36 PM
so you think laura has Caylee?

Hi Summer, What in the world is going on? What is this about Laura having Caylee? I just got home from a day with one of our adorable 3 year old grandchildren. I looked at their face all day and thought of our little Caylee-so sad:rose:

StickyBeak
09-16-2008, 05:36 PM
What would it matter if he WAS her father?


Well for one his family is quite wealthy and he recently visited PR.
He certainly would fit Caseys profile for a rich baby daddy. His sister also is a look a like for Caylee

http://www.facebook.com/people/Madeline_Chatt/542420748

just google JP chatt. Casey knew on the tapes that he was the owner of Ricardos house, she seemed to notice alot about what he owned.

Just found it interesting especially with the PR trip that supposedly all of Caseys friends went on. Good reason for her to pretend she had a Nanny. JMO

jakee
09-16-2008, 05:36 PM
I'm lost. Someone posted earlier about someone named Waters hurrying to speak to Casey at the jail? Is this the kid Casey didn't seem to recognize? And who the heck is Laura? Gosh, I thought I new all the names. :confused:

dtviewer
09-16-2008, 05:38 PM
slap me for being stupid, but who's laura?

:chicken:

Laura is somebody who has nothing to do with this case, but knows somebody named Zaneida (who also has nothing to do with this case). But this Laura will still have her name dragged through the mud by a poster just to draw the attention away from the person who is really responsible for what happened to Caylee.

SpecialK
09-16-2008, 05:39 PM
I thought Casey said Caylee's father was dead:shrug:

Caylee has said he is dead and LE seems satisfied with that story. His name has never been revealed and therefore, there's no way to know if he was wealthy. IMO, Caylee's father is/was not wealthy and she's not proud of whoever he is, imo. Otherwise, we'd know who he was.

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:39 PM
:( I have officially given up even trying to drink anything else today until I turn off the computer.

With this group you'd do well to stock up on keyboards:D

kakax
09-16-2008, 05:40 PM
got a myspace? anyone been doing screen shots? anyone been doing regular shots? :D sunglasses?


Did I hear you were handing out shots? Pfft...and didn't invite me.

What about these bones that have been found....

:rose::rose: praying for Caylee

Amy
09-16-2008, 05:40 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

It is in bold at the top.

Thanks. This is different than the first one I was looking @.'

I think the neighbors ought to all put up no trespassing signs, and pressing charges against protesters who get so out of line that they destroy their property, or get so loud as to disturb the peace. @ the least, I DO think it is reasonable (and legal) to determine times of protesting---say, all protesters have to leave by 10 pm so THE NEIGHBORHOOD folk can get rest for the next day's work.

As for the grandmother of little Dakota (bless her pea-picking heart--Dakota, not the grandmother.) Ahem---I am quite techno-disadvantaged, but even I know that you BLOCK emails or texts or calls to land line or cell phones that you find UNDESIRABLE. If you just BLOCK CA---the little one would not continue to get emails and texts. Plus, there is this little thing of not letting the child text and email CA.

IMO

barskin&co.
09-16-2008, 05:40 PM
Laura is somebody who has nothing to do with this case, but knows somebody named Zaneida (who also has nothing to do with this case). But this Laura will still have her name dragged through the mud by a poster just to draw the attention away from the person who is really responsible for what happened to Caylee.

Good analysis!

Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 05:40 PM
With this group you'd do well to stock up on keyboards:D
Oh, I have had plastic covers for mine for years now.:)

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 05:41 PM
I am glad. The protesters have been vile, but they aren't worth messing around with our First Amendment rights.
The judge ruled correctly. :patriot:

jmho

And I think with the incident with the child,,,,these horrible parents might think twice before they drag their children down there and encourage them to scream vile rantings at the anthony family or hang signs on their little necks....

kakax
09-16-2008, 05:41 PM
Did I hear you were handing out shots? Pfft...and didn't invite me.

What about these bones that have been found....

:rose::rose: praying for Caylee

NM, I see the report that it was animal bones.

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:41 PM
What happened to HELP FIND CAYLEE TRUST FUND?
http://www.wftv.com/video/17479484/index.html
5 :20 in says that the Sun Trust Bank has been contacted -trust fund has been closed and the family seeks donations from web site.

If anyone knows what this means...please pm me...lol

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:41 PM
Where does it say that?

The article says the judge could rule this week.

:shrug:

It's in the video from the 4 o'clock news report. More to come at five. Ooops, it's past five so they probably updated their site. JMO.

Amy
09-16-2008, 05:42 PM
I suppose Judge Mathis will be presiding over this trial of Casey's. LOL

Maybe he can sort out the conspiracy theories about Zenaida and Waters and Sam and William and who all who else. lol

Or, Judge Alex---he actually used to be a judge in FL. Maybe he would give up his show or take a hiatus to oversee this case?

Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 05:42 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

It is in bold at the top.

Yes it is:

Judge Denies HOA Request To Set Limitations For Protesters

deep*fear
09-16-2008, 05:43 PM
I thought Casey said Caylee's father was dead:shrug:

Casey said?

;)

babblefishie
09-16-2008, 05:43 PM
OMG! Your posts make me SCREAM! LOLOLOL! :lol:
I can't stop myself today -- I'm filled with this ever growing rage and frustration with Casey and friends. I was one of those that disagreed with Cindy but supported her right to grieve even if she was blind with denial. But now, she's really starting to drag a lot of other people in to it and it's really ticking me off. I hate this NOT MY DAUGHTER thing she has going. I bet many a teacher has been stuck with Cindy in their face adamantly denying that HER CASEY would ever steal the band trip money. (Picture Casey in background with big jar of change sticking out of desk):biggrin:

Next she's going to say that Casey was merely attempting to provide stress relief for overworked LE officials when her pants malfunctioned :biggrin:

kakax
09-16-2008, 05:44 PM
While Caylee is out there somewhere. SHE has time to read and censor message boards. Unfreakinbelievable.

Caylee...you are LOVED by those who have never met you. :rose:


Very sad...once again I want to thank our posters that went to search! :rose: and all of those who are out there searching and seeking the truth!

Shellberry
09-16-2008, 05:44 PM
Sorry if these links have already been posted. :seeya:
Where, oh where, is our Lynn?

Casey Anthony released from jail
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-091608,0,7978381.story

Casey Anthony Out of Jail ... Again
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7441020&version=19&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Casey Anthony Freed From Jail For Third Time; Caylee Search Continues
Detectives Leave Fla. In Caylee Search; Officers Called To Home 42 Times
http://www.local6.com/news/17484847/detail.html

Casey Anthony Released From Jail After Third Arrest
http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html

Casey Anthony Walks Out Of Jail
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/16/casey_back_in_jail__for_now.html

Casey Anthony Home After Release From Jail
Judge Denies HOA Request To Set Limitations For Protesters
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

I dont know where Lynn is-I hope she is ok, she hasnt been on in a while


anyone watching the mobile cam?
where are they? looks like in a once upon a child shop or something?
:confused:

I am enjoying a day of peace for caylee, here.
:rose:

imo/jmo/etc

marinewife5
09-16-2008, 05:45 PM
Laura is somebody who has nothing to do with this case, but knows somebody named Zaneida (who also has nothing to do with this case). But this Laura will still have her name dragged through the mud by a poster just to draw the attention away from the person who is really responsible for what happened to Caylee.

hmmm...thank you for explaining. i was worried i was crazy. :confused:

Destini
09-16-2008, 05:45 PM
I had this web cam link in my favorites & was just checking all the cams. Anyone have any idea what this one is showing?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/truck25mobilecam.html

Boxer
09-16-2008, 05:45 PM
Did I hear you were handing out shots? Pfft...and didn't invite me.

What about these bones that have been found....

:rose::rose: praying for Caylee

I'd never hand out a shot. I like it when people help themselves:D

aren't they animal bones? I saw a link, but it's busy time at our house.

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:45 PM
BUT the audacity that she thinks this is an area she needs to dictate and control is beyound comprehension.


Sort of like the HOA wanted to control the protesters:rolleyes:

chrissybot
09-16-2008, 05:47 PM
Well for one his family is quite wealthy and he recently visited PR.
He certainly would fit Caseys profile for a rich baby daddy. His sister also is a look a like for Caylee

http://www.facebook.com/people/Madeline_Chatt/542420748

just google JP chatt. Casey knew on the tapes that he was the owner of Ricardos house, she seemed to notice alot about what he owned.

Just found it interesting especially with the PR trip that supposedly all of Caseys friends went on. Good reason for her to pretend she had a Nanny. JMO
Whoa. Thats the 1st time I saw a pic of the sister. looks like a definate resemblance to me. hhhhmmmmm.........interesting. TY SB :seeya:

Lorna
09-16-2008, 05:47 PM
Casey said?

;)
Gives it a whole new meaning doesn't it? :tongue:

msgatorslayer
09-16-2008, 05:48 PM
Evening, all.

Scrolling through links to see what happened today. Princess is home again and the judge ruled against the HOA. Guess the Anthony's need a new supply of crime tape and trespassing signs.

Just another day in the neighborhood.:patriot:

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:48 PM
ITA it does say a lot about the energy she is willing to expend in attempt to control the entire universe. The irony is she ALWAYS makes it worse. But it's like some compulsion. She can't stop herself from getting involved. It's hard to turn away from. :shrug:

IMO, it's sad. She's been spiralling out of control. The other night she was rational at first with the crazy woman and the kids. Then when the woman backed down and got in her van, crazy Cindy went after her. Madness, I tell you, madness. Should be interesting around the Anthony homestead tonight. Casey's back and so will be the protesters. Madness, plain and simple. IMO.

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 05:49 PM
Well for one his family is quite wealthy and he recently visited PR.
He certainly would fit Caseys profile for a rich baby daddy. His sister also is a look a like for Caylee

http://www.facebook.com/people/Madeline_Chatt/542420748

just google JP chatt. Casey knew on the tapes that he was the owner of Ricardos house, she seemed to notice alot about what he owned.

Just found it interesting especially with the PR trip that supposedly all of Caseys friends went on. Good reason for her to pretend she had a Nanny. JMO

IF IF IF casey gave Caylee to her wealthy grandparents, J. P> Chatt's folks who live in puerto rico....she would have told everyone that in July...there would not be one reason to keep that secret....not one...I understand cindy might be a little upset...but it just doesn't make sense....that casey would rather face prison, than hurt cindy;'s feelings...nope....not buying that load....imo

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:49 PM
There you have it ..."Casey said".


:punch: got it!

Boxer
09-16-2008, 05:50 PM
Check. :read:


yeah, me too. check.

just another drive down the What If Hiway;)

barskin&co.
09-16-2008, 05:50 PM
More about the Zenaida Gonzalez some people are making silly insinuations about, remember this (in reply to the interview of the ZFG who was interviwed by the police)

Grandmother: Wrong Woman Found

Also, Cindy Anthony said the wrong Zenaida Gonzalez was found.

"This Zenaida is not the Zenaida," Cindy Anthony said. "It was ruled out by the authorities. It was in the police report."

Anthony said there are nine other people named Zenaida Gonzalez in the area.

"There is a lot of stuff you guys don't understand," Cindy Anthony said. "And if you guys would just leave it alone and let the authorities release the information that needs to be out there and let us release the information that needs to be out and quit speculating. The only facts you are going to get are from the authorities or from us. And you guys are spinning everything else and you are listening to a lot of people who don't have the facts."
http://www.local6.com/news/17122200/detail.html

bluwaters
09-16-2008, 05:50 PM
Cindy vs. the Internet
OK, now I'm ticked off.
Cindy wants to shut down websites that discuss this case and allow the use of foul language.
Where does she find that kind of time?
Isn't she searching for Caylee 24/7?
Since when does Cindy object to foul language?
She spouts it out of her own mouth so easily that it appears to be normal for her to use such language herself.
Cindy is going to shut down boards that she doesn't approve of?
Good luck Cindy.
:no: hammer

babblefishie
09-16-2008, 05:51 PM
IMO, it's sad. She's been spiralling out of control. The other night she was rational at first with the crazy woman and the kids. Then when the woman backed down and got in her van, crazy Cindy went after her. Madness, I tell you, madness. Should be interesting around the Anthony homestead tonight. Casey's back and so will be the protesters. Madness, plain and simple. IMO.

Yep, I agree. Cindy seeks it out when things get quiet. She gets a rush from it. I think she's filling the hole where Caylee lived in her heart with "being right" at all costs. :shrug:

steffaroob4
09-16-2008, 05:52 PM
Casey Anthony Case Creating Local Court Backlog (http://www.wftv.com/news/17489435/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news)
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The Casey Anthony case is now clogging the local court system and when Eyewitness News asked how much the case is costing taxpayers, the sheriff's office told said it has no idea. They couldn't say how many deputies they have devoted to the case or how much money it's costing in overtime...

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:52 PM
Caylee has said he is dead and LE seems satisfied with that story. His name has never been revealed and therefore, there's no way to know if he was wealthy. IMO, Caylee's father is/was not wealthy and she's not proud of whoever he is, imo. Otherwise, we'd know who he was.


Gotcha and agree. If Caylee's dad had been wealthy or came from money there is no way Casey would have let him off the hook. Sadly, IMO, I don't think Casey has any idea who the father was. JMO.

RIP little angel:rose:

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 05:53 PM
Whoa. Thats the 1st time I saw a pic of the sister. looks like a definate resemblance to me. hhhhmmmmm.........interesting. TY SB :seeya:


Wouldn't we all love to believe Caylee is living with her sister, father, and grandparents in a wonderful loving family?

I see a resemblance, you would have to be blind not to....I still don't know how it could in any way make a bit of difference..casey is going to prison for a long time and it doesn't have anything to do with mr. chatt...imo

commonguymd
09-16-2008, 05:53 PM
IF IF IF casey gave Caylee to her wealthy grandparents, J. P> Chatt's folks who live in puerto rico....she would have told everyone that in July...there would not be one reason to keep that secret....not one...I understand cindy might be a little upset...but it just doesn't make sense....that casey would rather face prison, than hurt cindy;'s feelings...nope....not buying that load....imo


And the trunk of the car was rotten pizza, maggots and arm and hammer in a special magic bag..... Chloroform was for cleaning the windows.... okay.... goodness. Gettin whiplash from the twists and turns to the far out conspiracy theories. Meanwhile Caylee got whisked away to Fantasy Island and Tattoo is watching her.

forensicnut
09-16-2008, 05:53 PM
I know I'm going to get heat for this...but, just for the heck of it, I looked on usa-people-search to see how many Gloria (ZFG's Mom) there were. ALOT!!! In the top 22, I found 2 that had references to the town and cities that Casey had mentioned that they had lived. New York, Florida and Puerto Rico. There was more too......but, here's just one of them:

22. GONZALEZ, GLORIA GONZALEZ
Associated names:
DEMARSHALL, GLORIA
GONZALEZ, GLORIA M
MARSHALL, GLORIA GONGALEZ
MARSHALL, GLORIA GONZALEZ


AGE: 53

KNOWN ADDRESSES, CITY, STATE
APOPKA, FL
MERRITT ISLAND, FL
ORLANDO, FL
BROOKLYN, NY
MOUNT SINAI, NY
NEW YORK, NY
AGUADILLA, PR
FAJARDO, PR

KNOWN RELATIVES
GONZALEZ, ROBERT MMARSHALL (age 29)
GONZALEZ, LILLIAN (age 29)
GONZALEZ, JIMMIE (age 31)

see all relatives...

babblefishie
09-16-2008, 05:53 PM
Cindy vs. the Internet
OK, now I'm ticked off.
Cindy wants to shut down websites that discuss this case and allow the use of foul language.
Where does she find that kind of time?
Isn't she searching for Caylee 24/7?
Since when does Cindy object to foul language?
She spouts it out of her own mouth so easily that it appears to be normal for her to use such language herself.
Cindy is going to shut down boards that she doesn't approve of?
Good luck Cindy.
:no: hammer

I feel what she really wants is to prevent people from talking smack about her daughters propensity to find herself with a "new dance partner every night". If it really was true and what brother Rick said was on the up and up, then it seems that Casey's being a virgin was important to Cindy. :rolleyes:

steffaroob4
09-16-2008, 05:53 PM
09.15 Check arrest (http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547)


Battery Report - Redacted
http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f09.16.08_batt eryGA.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

happy2bme
09-16-2008, 05:53 PM
More about the Zenaida Gonzalez some people are making silly insinuations about, remember this (in reply to the interview of the ZFG who was interviwed by the police)

Grandmother: Wrong Woman Found

Also, Cindy Anthony said the wrong Zenaida Gonzalez was found.

"This Zenaida is not the Zenaida," Cindy Anthony said. "It was ruled out by the authorities. It was in the police report."

Anthony said there are nine other people named Zenaida Gonzalez in the area.

"There is a lot of stuff you guys don't understand," Cindy Anthony said. "And if you guys would just leave it alone and let the authorities release the information that needs to be out there and let us release the information that needs to be out and quit speculating. The only facts you are going to get are from the authorities or from us. And you guys are spinning everything else and you are listening to a lot of people who don't have the facts."
http://www.local6.com/news/17122200/detail.html

This is one of my favorite quotes by Cindy.

Boxer
09-16-2008, 05:53 PM
IF IF IF casey gave Caylee to her wealthy grandparents, J. P> Chatt's folks who live in puerto rico....she would have told everyone that in July...there would not be one reason to keep that secret....not one...I understand cindy might be a little upset...but it just doesn't make sense....that casey would rather face prison, than hurt cindy;'s feelings...nope....not buying that load....imo

in fact, if she had given her away like that it would have been a double score for Casey. Hurt Cindy to her very bones AND make herself nicey nice with wealthy grandparents.

jakee
09-16-2008, 05:54 PM
hmmm...thank you for explaining. i was worried i was crazy. :confused:


I thought I might be going crazy too, still may be. Because who the heck is Waters and Rose? :)

dtviewer
09-16-2008, 05:55 PM
Cindy vs. the Internet
OK, now I'm ticked off.
Cindy wants to shut down websites that discuss this case and allow the use of foul language.
Where does she find that kind of time?
Isn't she searching for Caylee 24/7?
Since when does Cindy object to foul language?
She spouts it out of her own mouth so easily that it appears to be normal for her to use such language herself.
Cindy is going to shut down boards that she doesn't approve of?
Good luck Cindy.
:no: hammer

Good thing she has time on her hands for silly stuff.

She did say she would be out knocking on doors and no stone would be left unturned until she finds Caylee.
Guess she just hasnt been able to fit in search time quite yet.......

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Very sad...once again I want to thank our posters that went to search! :rose: and all of those who are out there searching and seeking the truth!

I am so proud of our friends here who were able to go search! And I am proud of LE for continuing to search for the WHOLE truth.

Caylee...:rose:

marinewife5
09-16-2008, 05:57 PM
Wouldn't we all love to believe Caylee is living with her sister, father, and grandparents in a wonderful loving family?

I see a resemblance, you would have to be blind not to....I still don't know how it could in any way make a bit of difference..casey is going to prison for a long time and it doesn't have anything to do with mr. chatt...imo

caylee would have been conceived around november of 2004. did she even know him then?

trich
09-16-2008, 05:57 PM
Laura is somebody who has nothing to do with this case, but knows somebody named Zaneida (who also has nothing to do with this case). But this Laura will still have her name dragged through the mud by a poster just to draw the attention away from the person who is really responsible for what happened to Caylee.



Couldn't have said it better.

Some people come up with the silliest scenerios while trying to believe that Casey is not a liar and a thief and lots worse too IMO.
:shrug:

marinewife5
09-16-2008, 05:57 PM
I thought I might be going crazy too, still may be. Because who the heck is Waters and Rose? :)

friends of laura? i think waters was mentioned by amy in her police statement. jmo

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 05:58 PM
Hi Summer, What in the world is going on? What is this about Laura having Caylee? I just got home from a day with one of our adorable 3 year old grandchildren. I looked at their face all day and thought of our little Caylee-so sad:rose:

lol, hi nana...i don't know...the new and improved dg is still trying to insinuate caylee is alive and living in puerto rico with j p chatt's parents....or something like that....i never could understand that girl and now she has a new name...:rolleyes:

Unperson1984
09-16-2008, 05:58 PM
Cindy vs. the Internet
OK, now I'm ticked off.
Cindy wants to shut down websites that discuss this case and allow the use of foul language.
Where does she find that kind of time?
Isn't she searching for Caylee 24/7?
Since when does Cindy object to foul language?
She spouts it out of her own mouth so easily that it appears to be normal for her to use such language herself.
Cindy is going to shut down boards that she doesn't approve of?
Good luck Cindy.
:no: hammer

This from the mother of the F Bomb Princess?

rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 05:58 PM
Thanks. This is different than the first one I was looking @.'

I think the neighbors ought to all put up no trespassing signs, and pressing charges against protesters who get so out of line that they destroy their property, or get so loud as to disturb the peace. @ the least, I DO think it is reasonable (and legal) to determine times of protesting---say, all protesters have to leave by 10 pm so THE NEIGHBORHOOD folk can get rest for the next day's work.

As for the grandmother of little Dakota (bless her pea-picking heart--Dakota, not the grandmother.) Ahem---I am quite techno-disadvantaged, but even I know that you BLOCK emails or texts or calls to land line or cell phones that you find UNDESIRABLE. If you just BLOCK CA---the little one would not continue to get emails and texts. Plus, there is this little thing of not letting the child text and email CA.

IMO

I agree. IIRC from the "fight scene" video of Saturday night, it did appear as though other neighbors had put up that yellow tape, too. Stand to be corrected. But I do agree they have rights. Most protests take place on public properties like courthouses (where there was should move, IMO), not residential neighborhoods. Maybe the neighbors will get a break on their property taxes for their inconvience and lack of sleep. Ya think? JMO.

OneUp
09-16-2008, 05:58 PM
Whoo Hoo Freedom of Speech is alive and well on Hopespring Drive.


:patriot:
Yep, and I'll bet you nine dollars to a horse cookie that we see some fine, fine examples of it on that street tonight.
JMO.

day2day
09-16-2008, 05:59 PM
Cindy vs. the Internet
OK, now I'm ticked off.
Cindy wants to shut down websites that discuss this case and allow the use of foul language.
Where does she find that kind of time?
Isn't she searching for Caylee 24/7?
Since when does Cindy object to foul language?
She spouts it out of her own mouth so easily that it appears to be normal for her to use such language herself.
Cindy is going to shut down boards that she doesn't approve of?
Good luck Cindy.
hammer

Remember-she has 3 people looking for Caylee hammer
She must have forgot the f-bombs SHE let fly in front of that little boy. :no:

forensicnut
09-16-2008, 05:59 PM
This is one of my favorite quotes by Cindy.

Any idea how old the "real" Zanny is supposed to be? :shrug:

summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 05:59 PM
caylee would have been conceived around november of 2004. did she even know him then?

upthread it was posted that j p chatt was jesse grund's roommate at the time of Caylee's conception....have no idea if it is true or not:shrug:

barskin&co.
09-16-2008, 06:00 PM
Any idea how old the "real" Zanny is supposed to be? :shrug:
Casey said her Z was in her early 20's.

jakee
09-16-2008, 06:02 PM
friends of laura? i think waters was mentioned by amy in her police statement. jmo


Ok, thank you. :) I got confused because I saw a post earlier saying that Waters visited Casey in jail. I didn't remember a visitor except a kid Casey didn't recognize. I could have missed that info though.

Rebel Rouzer
09-16-2008, 06:03 PM
More about the Zenaida Gonzalez some people are making silly insinuations about, remember this (in reply to the interview of the ZFG who was interviwed by the police)

Grandmother: Wrong Woman Found

Also, Cindy Anthony said the wrong Zenaida Gonzalez was found.

"This Zenaida is not the Zenaida," Cindy Anthony said. "It was ruled out by the authorities. It was in the police report."

Anthony said there are nine other people named Zenaida Gonzalez in the area.

"There is a lot of stuff you guys don't understand," Cindy Anthony said. "And if you guys would just leave it alone and let the authorities release the information that needs to be out there and let us release the information that needs to be out and quit speculating. The only facts you are going to get are from the authorities or from us. And you guys are spinning everything else and you are listening to a lot of people who don't have the facts."
http://www.local6.com/news/17122200/detail.html


barskin. Have i told you lately you are a doll? :D

msgatorslayer
09-16-2008, 06:03 PM
Any idea how old the "real" Zanny is supposed to be? :shrug:

How old would you like her to be?:biggrin:

chrissybot
09-16-2008, 06:03 PM
Wouldn't we all love to believe Caylee is living with her sister, father, and grandparents in a wonderful loving family?

I see a resemblance, you would have to be blind not to....I still don't know how it could in any way make a bit of difference..casey is going to prison for a long time and it doesn't have anything to do with mr. chatt...imo
True that.

mayamia
09-16-2008, 06:03 PM
Yes it is:

Judge Denies HOA Request To Set Limitations For Protesters


Since this is being brought by the homeowners association, who may have far-reaching by-laws, could the association force the Anthony's to move? :lol:

barskin&co.
09-16-2008, 06:05 PM
How old would you like her to be?:biggrin:



Well, we do know that she has curly hair - sometimes straightened!

deep*fear
09-16-2008, 06:05 PM
If the protesters are disturbing the peace or causing excessive noise, the neighbors should call the police and make a report. What is the difference if a neighbor is being too loud?

I did look at the map of the Anthonys neighborhood. Their home is in the center of 2 entrances. Most people wouldn't be inconvenienced by 'going around' b/c the Anthonys are in the center. (If they wanted to avoid cameras, media, protesters)

day2day
09-16-2008, 06:05 PM
barskin. Have i told you lately you are a doll? :D

Pfft..you never say i'm a doll. AND i have been on my best behavior today! ....:o

Rayosunshine
09-16-2008, 06:05 PM
Tonight At 11: Zenaida Gonzalez Talks To WESH

http://www.wesh.com/news/17485195/detail.html

If this is not THE Zenaida Gonzalez, why is WESH doing an interview with her? Is it for the ratings? Wonder if The Globe has contacted her, of course WESH will be giving her the exposure that might get the attention of The Globe or even National Enquirer.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Boxer
09-16-2008, 06:06 PM
How old would you like her to be?:biggrin:

dang, I'm getting slow. I was just going to say that.


I don't think Casey is ever going to talk. The info will come from Cindy. The one who cannot control her mouth.

forensicnut
09-16-2008, 06:06 PM
Casey said her Z was in her early 20's.

TY.

Would 28 be old for her then? There are alot of Zenaida's in the 20-30 age.

I am stuck on her for some reason, since I do believe Cindy and Lee when they said that Casey has been talking about Zanny for a year and 1/2, prior to her disappearance.

I'm a true devil's advocate and am trying to figure out if she really does exist.

Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 06:07 PM
I thought Casey said Caylee's father was dead:shrug:Casey said a lot of things...

Boxer
09-16-2008, 06:07 PM
Well, we do know that she has curly hair - sometimes straightened!

that's me.:shrug:

day2day
09-16-2008, 06:08 PM
that's me.:shrug:

Zanny? hammer