Tues, 9/18 AM

[farrahrani]

Starting a new thread if nobody minds

[chrissybot]

Starting a new thread if nobody minds

G'morning:seeya:. farra today is the 16th, is it too late to change the date in the thread??

[CinTN]

It can be the 18th if you like,, that means it PAYDAY for me ,,lol:tongue:

GOOD MORNING ALL :seeya:

[n/t]

Good Morning all,

I have a lot of catching up to do. I didn't watch NG last night. Did I miss anything significant? What are your thoughts on this Hawkins guy? Another innocent victim who knew Casey and got mixed up in this mess? Or does he know more?

I guess she's bailing out AGAIN today. I wish they would slap her with murder charges and keep her there.

Have a good day!

P.S. PM CW to fix the date on the thread. :)

[k_can004]

Good morning all... at work today so I'll have to peek in when I can... :)

[n/t]

Webcam 2

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[k_can004]

Webcam 2

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html



Is that a current picture?

[steffaroob4]

anyone read the WS post about CA trying to close websites?:shrug::shrug:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195

[Broderick]

I wonder why it is so hard for people to get the date right. Seems like this happens everyday.

[steffaroob4]

Detectives Leave Fla. In Caylee Search; Officers Called To Home 42 Times (http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html)
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Detectives are leaving Florida Tuesday to search for missing Caylee Anthony as the child's mother remains jailed.


An Orange County Sheriff's Department official confirmed to Local 6 that investigators will be talking with possible witnesses outside the state for clues into the whereabouts of the child.

[Snuggles]

anyone read the WS post about CA trying to close websites?:shrug::shrug:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195

wow, that is a little scary! Maybe that IS who went after me yesterday! Gosh, I feel for her reading this stuff, cause that would be awful, but really, why is she? If it were me, I would stay far away from all of this, not wanting to see my child getting trashed. Seriously though, we do have a constitution with freedom of speech, and unless you threaten someone, and in my opinion that threat must be credible, you can say what you like. THat does not make it right, and sometimes I am sure we say too much, but really, don't they have bigger fish to fry, like FINDING THEIR GRANDDAUGHTER>? Find Caylee and then we will all shut up! JMOO

[k_can004]

I wonder why it is so hard for people to get the date right. Seems like this happens everyday.



UMMM.... O.K ........sure it's an honest mistake...My days and dates all run in together sometimes too.. I am a mother of three and work full time.... there are more important things to worry about than the date imo...:) it can be changed with no prob I'm sure.

[chrissybot]

anyone read the WS post about CA trying to close websites?:shrug::shrug:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195
Yep steff, I read it. That family is totally unbelievable!!

[desmom]

Today's Headlines:

Casey Anthony will face judge on new charges
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7441020&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Casey Anthony Wakes Up Behind Bars Tuesday Morning
http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html

Jailed again, Casey Anthony will seek to go home again
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-casey1608sep16,0,3942443.story

Casey Back In Jail -- For Now
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/16/casey_back_in_jail__for_now.html

Casey Anthony Heads To Court Today
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

Detectives Leave Fla. In Caylee Search; Officers Called To Home 42 Times
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html

[shelbar53]

I read last nite that yuri is flying to california on thursday to meet with padilla.

[steffaroob4]

Investigators plan trip to California (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7441020&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)

FOX 35's Executive Producer Nicole Wolfe spoke with Leonard Padilla Tuesday morning. He is the celebrity bounty hunter that helped post Casey's $500,000 bond when she was initially arrested.

Padilla says investigators from the Orange County Sheriff's Office will fly to California to speak with him and his associates about their time spent with Casey while she was at home.

Specifically, Padilla says they will probably be interested in the story Casey told him about Caylee's mysterious babysitter, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.

"She told us that she had gone to J. Blanchard Park and that Zenaida had taken the baby away from her and that Zenaida and her sister drove off in a silver 2008 Ford Focus model," Padilla said.

Padilla says Casey added that Zenaida gave her a list of things to tell police for the next 30 days and scripted a statement for her.

"I don't believe any of it," Padilla said.

Casey told investigators in a sworn statement that the last time she saw her daughter was when she dropped her off at the steps leading to Zenaida's apartment.

Police determined that the apartment had been vacant for months and that no one with the babysitter's name had ever leased in the apartment complex.

[KimD]

I wonder why it is so hard for people to get the date right. Seems like this happens everyday.

Mistakes happen... get over it :rolleyes:

[Kathlb]

anyone read the WS post about CA trying to close websites?:shrug::shrug:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195

Silly. I have heard far worse coming from Cindy's mouth herself live on camera in her yard and the street. I don't see that going anywhere but putting dollars in her atty's pocket.

As for talking to out of state tipsters, they have to follow up on calls and possible sightings even though we know they are bogus. Otherwise they would be accused of not following all leads. It will come to nothing as well. JMHO

[shelbar53]

Oh they are leaving today? well...I hope yuri comes back...calif is so beautiful he just might end up staying there. Im in Pa and I would move to ca in a heartbeat if I could.

[farrahrani]

I wonder why it is so hard for people to get the date right. Seems like this happens everyday.


Lol...oops, my bad :tongue: This is what I get for too little sleep and too much allergy medicine...add my basic math retardation, and it's an interesting combo

I just wanted to take a sec to address this and apologize in advance if I offended anyone.

I'm sorry that on this "day of peace" for Caylee you would post that people who don't go along with the majority opinion are trolls.

I myself believe Caylee is dead at the hands of her mother, but I respect anyone's right to think otherwise, as well as their right to post here on this forum.

:seeya:

I don't think that ANYONE who disagrees with my opinion is a troll. I should have clarified. I am glad to debate a difference of belief with anyone who has an informed opinion and facts to back it up. I should have been more specific and referred to people who become easily inflamed and just spout their opinions forcefully in the face of all evidence, then disappear only to pop up again to inflame members with hostility. I've seen in a couple of times in the past few days, and on other boards. Someone will show up, lose their mind over a minor post, rant a several paragraph post usually unrelated to what they are replying to, then disappear. It isn't limited to this topic, this site, or even crime sites in general.
Most everyone here and on other sites, whether they agree with the majority or not are easygoing and very reasonable and polite. In no way am I referring to the regular members here, or simply to anyone who disagrees with me. I am not always good at expressing myself in a way that is perfectly clear, and I hope this clears it up, apologies again. :(

[Broderick]

UMMM.... O.K ........sure it's an honest mistake...My days and dates all run in together sometimes too.. I am a mother of three and work full time.... there are more important things to worry about than the date imo...:) it can be changed with no prob I'm sure.

Well, when going back to research it makes it difficult if there is a different standard all the time imo. Take today, which mind you is the 16th. Not the 18th. Anyway, perhaps new threads should be limited to moderators since many days we have 2 or 3 new threads starting up and everyone is running around confused or someone is putting the wrong date in the thread title.

Might not be a big deal sure, but seems amateurish to me.

[chrissybot]

Today's Headlines:

Casey Anthony will face judge on new charges
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7441020&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Casey Anthony Wakes Up Behind Bars Tuesday Morning
http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html

Jailed again, Casey Anthony will seek to go home again
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-casey1608sep16,0,3942443.story

Casey Back In Jail -- For Now
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/16/casey_back_in_jail__for_now.html

Casey Anthony Heads To Court Today
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

Detectives Leave Fla. In Caylee Search; Officers Called To Home 42 Times
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html

TY Desmom:seeya:

[kitty1182]

Yep steff, I read it. That family is totally unbelievable!!

You would think they had better things to do like finding their GD....:rolleyes:

[steffaroob4]

You would think they had better things to do like finding their GD....:rolleyes:


It is very strange.

Anyone have the link for the court?

[ellegna]

anyone read the WS post about CA trying to close websites?:shrug::shrug:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195

Thanks Steff. That was very interesting.

Good morning everyone :seeya:

[steffaroob4]

Silly. I have heard far worse coming from Cindy's mouth herself live on camera in her yard and the street. I don't see that going anywhere but putting dollars in her atty's pocket.

As for talking to out of state tipsters, they have to follow up on calls and possible sightings even though we know they are bogus. Otherwise they would be accused of not following all leads. It will come to nothing as well. JMHO

One would think they need to spend less time online, the sure aren't going to find caylee here.

I am sure Yuri has to go interview Robert Dick after those statements he made about Jay B park, LB changes his stories so much, he is going to be a real issue.

[anyonesguess]

anyone read the WS post about CA trying to close websites?:shrug::shrug:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195


Sorry, but I don't believe Cindy. I think Casey gets her lying from her mother imo. She likes to TRY to intimidate people imo. She would be wasting her time imo, and right now she has bigger eggs to fry and worry about instead of what people are posting. Her best vindication would be Caylee coming home alive imo.

In regard to her daughter? If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it is a duck. Casey is what Casey is. Just because mommy doesn't like it that they are attacking Casey's reputation right now, Casey created her OWN reputation as we all have a choice to do imo.

[k_can004]

Well, when going back to research it makes it difficult if there is a different standard all the time imo. Take today, which mind you is the 16th. Not the 18th. Anyway, perhaps new threads should be limited to moderators since many days we have 2 or 3 new threads starting up and everyone is running around confused or someone is putting the wrong date in the thread title.

Might not be a big deal sure, but seems amateurish to me.



UMMM... O.K again... life goes on..... have a wonderful day today the 16th of sept. :)

[anyonesguess]

Well, when going back to research it makes it difficult if there is a different standard all the time imo. Take today, which mind you is the 16th. Not the 18th. Anyway, perhaps new threads should be limited to moderators since many days we have 2 or 3 new threads starting up and everyone is running around confused or someone is putting the wrong date in the thread title.

Might not be a big deal sure, but seems amateurish to me.

Wow Broderick, You got up on the wrong side of the bed? :shrug:

Perhaps we should leave it up to you to start threads and make sure we get the dates right.

FGS, it was a mistake. Can you deal with that or should I strive to be perfect like you? .............. NO THANKS.

[marshmallow]

I think that the Anthony's are reeling along blind now. They're trying to control all of us instead of trying to get some sense out of their daughter. That's a shame.

The one true fact that hasn't changed is: Casey has answers and she alone has the power to help us find that child and for some reason she refuses to. Every day that goes by weakens "reasonable doubt" because, in my eyes, if Casey's telling the truth then she'sbeing stubborn at the risk of her child's life.

We need to refocus on Caylee. For some reason, we keep getting led to silly little spats and it keeps us from our focus: Where is CAylee. Casey NEEDS to talk.

[chrissybot]

You would think they had better things to do like finding their GD....:rolleyes:
Thats what I'm thinkin'. I don't understand why they would be so busy scouring the net for news on themselves when their grandbaby is missing.

[shelbar53]

someone posted this link yesterday. I dont know if this is where casey will be appearing. but its a live link to the court procedings

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/live_broadcast.shtml

[~jomomma~]

It is very strange.

Anyone have the link for the court?

this is what someone gave yesterday. i don't know if there is any other one.

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/

if you figure out what i need to do there, let me know. LOL

will it just start playing?

[Kathlb]

Oh they are leaving today? well...I hope yuri comes back...calif is so beautiful he just might end up staying there. Im in Pa and I would move to ca in a heartbeat if I could.

I am hoping that this trip of Yuri's is very fruitful. If he does talk to Mark, the Marine, I think it might be. She was calling, emailing and texting him right before she ditched the car. She supposedly had "something important" to tell him. She just may have and that will be very interesting. MOO

By the way, good morning everyone! :D

[steffaroob4]

someone posted this link yesterday. I dont know if this is where casey will be appearing. But its a live link to the court procedings

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/live_broadcast.shtml

thank you!

[SavannahStar]

Wow Broderick, You got up on the wrong side of the bed? :shrug:

Perhaps we should leave it up to you to start threads and make sure we get the dates right.

FGS, it was a mistake. Can you deal with that or should I strive to be perfect like you? .............. NO THANKS.

This is sure starting out like a "day of peace" for Caylee. :shrug:

[SavannahStar]

Lol...oops, my bad :tongue: This is what I get for too little sleep and too much allergy medicine...add my basic math retardation, and it's an interesting combo

I just wanted to take a sec to address this and apologize in advance if I offended anyone.



I don't think that ANYONE who disagrees with my opinion is a troll. I should have clarified. I am glad to debate a difference of belief with anyone who has an informed opinion and facts to back it up. I should have been more specific and referred to people who become easily inflamed and just spout their opinions forcefully in the face of all evidence, then disappear only to pop up again to inflame members with hostility. I've seen in a couple of times in the past few days, and on other boards. Someone will show up, lose their mind over a minor post, rant a several paragraph post usually unrelated to what they are replying to, then disappear. It isn't limited to this topic, this site, or even crime sites in general.
Most everyone here and on other sites, whether they agree with the majority or not are easygoing and very reasonable and polite. In no way am I referring to the regular members here, or simply to anyone who disagrees with me. I am not always good at expressing myself in a way that is perfectly clear, and I hope this clears it up, apologies again. :(

Thank you for the explanation and apology! :rose:

[Ladyhawk]

Thats what I'm thinkin'. I don't understand why they would be so busy scouring the net for news on themselves when their grandbaby is missing.

IMO She's trying to find the best theories and it's interesting to read everyone's ideas and then see which ones pop out of the Anthony camp. She says she didn't read on that board?? Haha, the woman who opened the trash bag found printouts from that very site.

[steffaroob4]

this is what someone gave yesterday. i don't know if there is any other one.

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/

if you figure out what i need to do there, let me know. LOL

will it just start playing?

Thanks
I have it open, just click the arraignments link.

[msgatorslayer]

anyone read the WS post about CA trying to close websites?:shrug::shrug:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195

Well, I guess this proves that they have been reading websites to see what the public is saying and thinking about them, lol.

[shelbar53]

IIRC the BH is in northern ca and the marine is in southern ca, so im wondering if yuri is going to san diago and sacremento?

Oh and I read casey is to appear at 8:30 and the live feed to the courthouse starts at 9:00.

[ellegna]

this is what someone gave yesterday. i don't know if there is any other one.

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/

if you figure out what i need to do there, let me know. LOL

will it just start playing?

I found the live broadcast link
http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/live_broadcast.shtml

[nana6]

[QUOTE=desmom;12126961]Today's Headlines:

Casey Anthony will face judge on new charges
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7441020&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Casey Anthony Wakes Up Behind Bars Tuesday Morning
http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html

Jailed again, Casey Anthony will seek to go home again
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-casey1608sep16,0,3942443.story

Casey Back In Jail -- For Now
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/16/casey_back_in_jail__for_now.html

Casey Anthony Heads To Court Today
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html

Detectives Leave Fla. In Caylee Search; Officers Called To Home 42 Times
http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html[/ Good morning all. If you want to watch court this am. Go to www.ninthcircuit.org :)

[courtsinsession]

based on these new charges and thereby keep her in jail. I am sure the police know that as long as she is out of their control, they have no shot at getting any info; even having her in jail doesn't give them much of a shot at getting information necessary to find Caylee.

[steffaroob4]

Well, I guess this proves that they have been reading websites to see what the public is saying and thinking about them, lol.


I am sorry, I just have to say it, "Are they crazy?" Caylee is missing, why aren't you looking for her, she is NOT on these message boards. if you truly think ZG has her, why wouldn't you be knocking on doors, I sure would be. I would have EVERY member of my family helping me knock on doors, even the ones I don't like very much, there is something more going on here.

[Armchairdet]

Good morning folks.

I was not able to catch much about the case yesterday..none for that matter.

This morning I heard there is possibly yet another police officer other than the one fired over not being honest about his relationship with Casey, who had a relationship with her.

This was during a morning radio show where some news lady calls and gives the dj's updates.

She even said it has not yet been confirmed, who he may be or the extent of the relationship.

Sorry if this is not news to you guys. I just heard it and was shocked.


IMO MOO

[~jomomma~]

I found the live broadcast link
http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/live_broadcast.shtml

ohhhhh....thank you! :seeya:

[steffaroob4]

At 11 p.m. Tuesday, WESH will offer an interview with Zenaida (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/09/stock-market-cr.html)Gonzalez, who was falsely identified as Caylee's babysitter. Reporter Michelle Meredith said, "It's an interview you'll see only WESH2 News."

[anyonesguess]

This is sure starting out like a "day of peace" for Caylee. :shrug:


Savannah, I hope you are directing this to Broderick and not me.

[marshmallow]

it really bothers me that it appears CA is more worried about what an internet web site says about them than the stark reality of her granddaughter still missing and Casey holding all the cards. Every day when my eldest gets in he asks if she's been found yet and every day I fill him in on the latest. It's always all about the Anthonys <Cindy, Casey, George> and the big bad world that's out to get them but there's never anything new for anyone to use to work with.
I know it seems to them that the world is anti-them but this is a big part of the reason it appears so. I wish the world would just keep writing and saying "WHERE'S CAYLEE???" over and over until they get it. The past two days I've tried to bend my mind around their side but I don't think they have one. It's all about Casey to them, or so it seems. When did it stop being about Caylee and start being about defending Casey? IF Caylee's out there with alleged kidnappers, with this much time gone by, why isn't Casey spilling every detail she can remember about this "nanny"? any little piece is better than nothing. I'd have been hyp-motised a few time by now, anything in my mind fair game. Anything to find this child. This is the time for Casey to step up to the plate.

[bchand]

It is very strange.

Anyone have the link for the court?

Probably already posted, but I'm still reading:

http://www.wftv.com/video/17483635/index.html

Live court appearance approx 8:30 am

[steffaroob4]

WESH live court link (http://www.wesh.com/video/17483592/index.html)

[anyonesguess]

Good morning folks.

I was not able to catch much about the case yesterday..none for that matter.

This morning I heard there is possibly yet another police officer other than the one fired over not being honest about his relationship with Casey, who had a relationship with her.

This was during a morning radio show where some news lady calls and gives the dj's updates.

She even said it has not yet been confirmed, who he may be or the extent of the relationship.

Sorry if this is not news to you guys. I just heard it and was shocked.


IMO MOO


GM Armchair! There are 2 officers that have admitted having sexual relations with Casey ( I should add that it has been reported). That makes a total of 3 right now. I have not hear anything about the latest 2 losing their jobs however. Maybe they won't since they came forward to admit this. :shrug:

[shelbar53]

Good morning folks.

I was not able to catch much about the case yesterday..none for that matter.

This morning I heard there is possibly yet another police officer other than the one fired over not being honest about his relationship with Casey, who had a relationship with her.

This was during a morning radio show where some news lady calls and gives the dj's updates.

She even said it has not yet been confirmed, who he may be or the extent of the relationship.

Sorry if this is not news to you guys. I just heard it and was shocked.


IMO MOO

http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

[ellegna]

Casey turned herself in Monday after meeting with her case manager.

She'll appear in court to have bond set on the new charges. The judge does have discretion setting bond but the usual amount for the charges Casey faces is $1,500.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html

Wishful thinking but wouldn't it be a kick in Casey's pants if the Judge sets a bond higher than the usual?
Wouldn't matter I guess because someone will come up with it. :(

[msgatorslayer]

I am sorry, I just have to say it, "Are they crazy?" Caylee is missing, why aren't you looking for her, she is NOT on these message boards. if you truly think ZG has her, why wouldn't you be knocking on doors, I sure would be. I would have EVERY member of my family helping me knock on doors, even the ones I don't like very much, there is something more going on here.

Caylee who? Oh, you mean that little girl who is the newest member of their family? The one that they regret reporting missing?

They need look no further than their own front yard to see what people think if them. Scouring message boards, IMO, is giving them insight into what people are saying about the evidence, or lack of evidence, against Casey. Their princess. It allows them to see what holes people are poking into their many stories.

They make me sick!!! Like the St. Bernard protester said, I too, would be out looking for my dog!!!!

[JainDough]

Sorry, haven't had time to keep up the last few days. Who is this Mark Hawkins everyone has been talking about?

[Armchairdet]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

Thank you :seeya:

[SavannahStar]

Savannah, I hope you are directing this to Broderick and not me.

BOTH! :seeya:

[Ladyhawk]

Casey turned herself in Monday after meeting with her case manager.

She'll appear in court to have bond set on the new charges. The judge does have discretion setting bond but the usual amount for the charges Casey faces is $1,500.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17483047/detail.html

Wishful thinking but wouldn't it be a kick in Casey's pants if the Judge sets a bond higher than the usual?
Wouldn't matter I guess because someone will come up with it. :(

It would be interesting if the judge mentions the 42 incidents at the home and denies bond. That probably won't happen though.

[nana6]

Caylee who? Oh, you mean that little girl who is the newest member of their family? The one that they regret reporting missing?

They need look no further than their own front yard to see what people think if them. Scouring message boards, IMO, is giving them insight into what people are saying about the evidence, or lack of evidence, against Casey. Their princess. It allows them to see what holes people are poking into their many stories.

They make me sick!!! Like the St. Bernard protester said, I too, would be out looking for my dog!!!!

Well, I say let them lurk here all they want. And, might I say, that it will not make a bit of difference to LE. They are professionals and quite able to do their job.

[anyonesguess]

I am sorry, I just have to say it, "Are they crazy?" Caylee is missing, why aren't you looking for her, she is NOT on these message boards. if you truly think ZG has her, why wouldn't you be knocking on doors, I sure would be. I would have EVERY member of my family helping me knock on doors, even the ones I don't like very much, there is something more going on here.

Exactly Stef. Didn't Cindy say she would knock on every single door, and look in every nook and cranny to find her? Wonder when she plans on starting? :shrug:

[steffaroob4]

Caylee who? Oh, you mean that little girl who is the newest member of their family? The one that they regret reporting missing?

They need look no further than their own front yard to see what people think if them. Scouring message boards, IMO, is giving them insight into what people are saying about the evidence, or lack of evidence, against Casey. Their princess. It allows them to see what holes people are poking into their many stories.

They make me sick!!! Like the St. Bernard protester said, I too, would be out looking for my dog!!!!

You couldn't keep me off the news or off the streets if that was my granchild missing. The whole thing is baffling.

I am sure they are reading the blogs for good theories on what happened to Caylee in court. There are plenty of crazy theories out there to choose from.

[Regina.Lampert]

anyone read the WS post about CA trying to close websites?:shrug::shrug:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195

Wow! It is simply amazing to me how uninformed the anthonys are about free speech in this country. How ironic that the foulmouthed cynthia is concerned about people using foul language to describe them. She really should take a moment and review recent
video tape of her performances lately. IMO.

[Armchairdet]

GM Armchair! There are 2 officers that have admitted having sexual relations with Casey ( I should add that it has been reported). That makes a total of 3 right now. I have not hear anything about the latest 2 losing their jobs however. Maybe they won't since they came forward to admit this. :shrug:


I didn't hear that they (or he because I heard one more) lost their jobs either..but you would not be able to tell that from my bady formed run on pre coffee post. Sorry. :biggrin:

This girl is something.

But you know she said her job was to plan events, and make money working from home. She is doing that. Or was.

[desmom]

Sorry, haven't had time to keep up the last few days. Who is this Mark Hawkins everyone has been talking about?


He went to school with Casey. He is USMC and stationed in 29 Palms, CA. He called LE when he heard Caylee was missing. He told LE he communicated almost daily with Casey via internet or phone. His mother lives in FL and saw Casey July 10 (I think) at Target.

Casey told him a couple of weeks before Caylee disappeared she was planning a trip to CA. She had something important to tell him, she had shared this info with her mother and brother and she did not know how he would react when he heard her news.

jmo

[anyonesguess]

BOTH! :seeya:

Well It wasn't me that started in complaining. I want Caylee to have peace everyday not just today. It seems hypocritical to me to state we will have peace one day for Caylee and then back to however the next. We should strive for peace everyday, and I believe we all try to do that everyday as it is, but it just always doesn't work out that way, but please don't ask me to post in any way I do not want to post as you are drawing yourself into it as well by not giving Caylee her day of peace. :seeya:

[steffaroob4]

Wow! It is simply amazing to me how uninformed the anthonys are about free speech in this country. How ironic that the foulmouthed cynthia is concerned about people using foul language to describe them. She really should take a moment and review recent
video tape of her performances lately. IMO.

You know I think they are setting up a defense for casey, that she was so scared of her mother, it made her panic after there was an accident. Which at one point I would have believed that, but now I feel like we are being played.

[msgatorslayer]

You couldn't keep me off the news or off the streets if that was my granchild missing. The whole thing is baffling.

I am sure they are reading the blogs for good theories on what happened to Caylee in court. There are plenty of crazy theories out there to choose from.

I seen a smal blurb in my paper about a man who has been missing from St. Pete for 3 months. I'm sure his family would like to have 10% of the media attention the Anthony family is garnering.

They have the resources available to them that all missing persons families can only hope for but they don't care to use it in a productive manner to find Caylee. They wish everyone would just go away.

[JainDough]

Thanks you. Sounds like she may have been planning on moving out there....maybe to join him after she got rid of Caylee? I wouldn't put anything past her. After listening to the tapes, she reminded me of Scott Peterson. Neither one seemed to be concerned with consequences as long as they got what they got what they wanted.

[anyonesguess]

I didn't hear that they (or he because I heard one more) lost their jobs either..but you would not be able to tell that from my bady formed run on pre coffee post. Sorry. :biggrin:

This girl is something.

But you know she said her job was to plan events, and make money working from home. She is doing that. Or was.


Yes, I am sure her address book had to be juggled alot! :read:

[jakee]

Good morning,

I have a question about NG last night. The 2 guest lawyers were discussing the tapes just released. They brought up that Casey was not given her Miranda rights. I am confused. She wasn't under arrest at that time, so were they supposed to read them to her? Is this going to cause problems later? Thank you. Sorry if that is a dumb question. :)

[crymeariver2006]

Wow! It is simply amazing to me how uninformed the anthonys are about free speech in this country. How ironic that the foulmouthed cynthia is concerned about people using foul language to describe them. She really should take a moment and review recent
video tape of her performances lately. IMO.

Speaking of which.....how were the protesters last night?

[trich]

I would think that instead of taking time to read websites they would spend that time looking for Caylee......
If what was said about taking down websites because of foul language.
If you could sue for calling people bad names she had better take a good look at herself and her foul mouthed daughter.....
I can't imagine such a waste of time and energy when she should be trying to find her grandaughter with all the tips she has been receiving.
Yeah right!


Oh and should Cindy be looking at this site this is my message to you:
Read it carefully and maybe you will actually see how many lies your daughter and you and George and Lee have told all because you openly refuse to admit what Casey did to Caylee.
You know the truth and the more you lie the more people will be furious at your family.
There are recordings and video and statements all here that should you take the time to read ....you will have to realize all the denial in the world will not change what the truth really is.

[crymeariver2006]

Good morning,

I have a question about NG last night. The 2 guest lawyers were discussing the tapes just released. They brought up that Casey was not given her Miranda rights. I am confused. She wasn't under arrest at that time, so were they supposed to read them to her? Is this going to cause problems later? Thank you. Sorry if that is a dumb question. :)


Most defense attorneys would cry foul at any statement given by their client.

No, she wasn't under arrest and it was clear that she was free to leave at any time.

IMO, the statements will be admitted.

[iluvmua]

Hey everybody, for those wondering I had a Wonderful 24th Birthday. I went Shopping at Ulta (a Makeup Store) and Borders; then I went out to eat at Chili's With my Mother and Step-Father.

Never thought that Casey would be arrested on my Birthday. I guess I got one of my Birthday Wishes. :D

[SavannahStar]

Good morning,

I have a question about NG last night. The 2 guest lawyers were discussing the tapes just released. They brought up that Casey was not given her Miranda rights. I am confused. She wasn't under arrest at that time, so were they supposed to read them to her? Is this going to cause problems later? Thank you. Sorry if that is a dumb question. :)

There was a huge discussion of that on last night's thread. I won't do a synopsis as it is quite involved. I did especially pay attention to impartial's posts on the matter since she is in fact an attorney.

[~jomomma~]

what was said? i couldn't have the volume up *sigh*

[desmom]

What did the judge say? Landline ringing, cell phone ringing and I missed it. TIA

[ellegna]

Wow! It is simply amazing to me how uninformed the anthonys are about free speech in this country. How ironic that the foulmouthed cynthia is concerned about people using foul language to describe them. She really should take a moment and review recent
video tape of her performances lately. IMO.

Cindy has no time to review videos of herself. IMO..Too busy coming up with an angle to sue websites for slander.
Guess they're not getting as many gifts certificates that they counted on :tongue:

[crymeariver2006]

What did the judge say? Landline ringing, cell phone ringing and I missed it. TIA

What judge? Has she already had her court appearance?

:shrug:

[dixielover]

read charges-bond at little over $1000-pros wanted to restrict her from using credit cards and checks-judge states "her own personal credit card"- request denied

[jakee]

There was a huge discussion of that on last night's thread. I won't do a synopsis as it is quite involved. I did especially pay attention to impartial's posts on the matter since she is in fact an attorney.

Oh Thank you. I will try to go search for those posts. Thank you also to Crymeriver for your response. I do not know how to quote several posts yet. :)

[FrankieBones1]

I wonder why it is so hard for people to get the date right. Seems like this happens everyday.
It's much easier to just type the DAY...Like:

Tuesday Morning .

We all know this is the Caylee Anthony board and we all know it's September and for sure we all know the year is 2008.

Let's keep it simple, folks. I like when everyone starts new threads; but make it less confusing for us.

Anyway, thanks Farahani. Good to see you and everyone today.

[OneUp]

This is sure starting out like a "day of peace" for Caylee. :shrug:
Good Morning SS, Everyone!
Remember today, that you are only responsible for yourself, and your choice to observe peace to Honor Caylee.
I hope we hear some news about the Ca. trip, that will be something interesting to talk about!
I know the court proceedings this mornig will likely be fairly standard, nothing much happening there...unfortunately, we are all going to end up experts on Economic charges and bail before everything is sorted out.
I hope today is the day that Caylee is found so she is no longer out there alone and unclaimed. God bless her and all of our children,:rose:
Thank you all for coming here so we can share our concern for this child who needs all the prayers and well wishes that we have to give.
Now I need to read!:read:

[Kathlb]

read charges-bond at little over $1000-pros wanted to restrict her from using credit cards and checks-judge states "her own personal credit card"- request denied


She also can't have any contact with Amy. I think the bond was $1,000, $150 and $100. She should be bailed out later today.

[JainDough]

Casey had a badge on........wondering if it could be her "missing" badge from Universal?

[shelbar53]

I think bond at a total of 1,200 for the current charges, no contact with amy and I think judge said she cant use any credit cards. it went so quick. but baez AKA high profile attorney was there

[nutterbutter]

G'morning:seeya:. farra today is the 16th, is it too late to change the date in the thread??
not to worry I am sure CW will fix it.ood morning all.

[ellegna]

Court is now in session.
Don't know where Casey is on the docket

http://www2.ninja9.org/broadcast1

[dixielover]

I think bond at a total of 1,200 for the current charges, no contact with amy and I think judge said she cant use any credit cards. it went so quick. but baez AKA high profile attorney was there


Probably another $600 in his pocket-can you imagine what this bill is going to be-jmo

[crymeariver2006]

She also can't have any contact with Amy. I think the bond was $1,000, $150 and $100. She should be bailed out later today.

In the last arraignment, they didn't say anything about Amy that I can recall. :shrug:

You don't think Casey and/or Cindy attempted to contact her to ask her to drop the charges do you?

[kitty1182]

Good grief..So they sit and read message boards instead of being out looking for a child...
Something wrong with that picture..IMO
What is it with these people?

[JainDough]

I think bond at a total of 1,200 for the current charges, no contact with amy and I think judge said she cant use any credit cards. it went so quick. but baez AKA high profile attorney was there

I thought he said she could use her credit cards. Could be wrong. Just woke up.

[Kathlb]

Court is now in session.
Don't know where Casey is on the docket

http://www2.ninja9.org/broadcast1


It's over ellegna, she was first. Check the posts up thread for the rulings.

[desmom]

read charges-bond at little over $1000-pros wanted to restrict her from using credit cards and checks-judge states "her own personal credit card"- request denied

She also can't have any contact with Amy. I think the bond was $1,000, $150 and $100. She should be bailed out later today.

I think bond at a total of 1,200 for the current charges, no contact with amy and I think judge said she cant use any credit cards. it went so quick. but baez AKA high profile attorney was there

Thank you! :seeya:

[Kathlb]

I thought he said she could use her credit cards. Could be wrong. Just woke up.

The pros wanted to limit her use of her own credit cards and checks. Judge denied. She can use her own, just can't use Amy's. Like we didn't know that. :-) MOO (I don't think she has any of her own anyway just her mom's.)

[shelbar53]

In the last arraignment, they didn't say anything about Amy that I can recall. :shrug:

You don't think Casey and/or Cindy attempted to contact her to ask her to drop the charges do you?

yes the judge said amy and whatever her last name is {starts with an H}. no contact with her. thats about the only part I understood

[anyonesguess]

The pros wanted to limit her use of any credit cards and checks. Judge denied. She just can't use Amy's. Like we didn't know that. :-) MOO


So we still need to keep our checkbooks, and CC's hidden. :)

[ellegna]

It's over ellegna, she was first. Check the posts up thread for the rulings.

Darn...serves me right to step away to make a pot of coffee. :mad:

[msgatorslayer]

The pros wanted to limit her use of any credit cards and checks. Judge denied. She just can't use Amy's. Like we didn't know that. :-) MOO

If Cindy's okay with it, why not? lmao

[chrissybot]

In the last arraignment, they didn't say anything about Amy that I can recall. :shrug:

You don't think Casey and/or Cindy attempted to contact her to ask her to drop the charges do you?
I think your right Cry. IIRC this is the first time I heard the judge say she was to have NO contact with Amy. They always have her 1st, does it go alphabetically??

[crymeariver2006]

The pros wanted to limit her use of any credit cards and checks. Judge denied. She just can't use Amy's. Like we didn't know that. :-) MOO

She wouldn't even still have Amy's checks.

The judge must be a master at stating the obvious.

[Kathlb]

If Cindy's okay with it, why not? lmao


LOL, I corrected my post. They wanted to limit her use of her own also..judge said she could use her own, just not Amy's. :rolleyes: I don't think she has any, just Mom's. MOO

[Rebel Rouzer]

Good morning everyone :seeya:

Thanks to those updating what happened this morning. They sure are quick.
Wish a judge could rule Casey monitarily incompitent. She wouldn't be able to sign checks or use credit cards or much of anything unless someone gives her cash o use.

Wonder what Yuri will find out today while in California?

[Regina.Lampert]

Speaking of which.....how were the protesters last night?

I don't know, I wasn't watching caseycam, but there's no video yet this morning so my guess is that all was quiet on the anthony front.

BTW, noticed that WS is reporting that Yuri Melich is rolling out to California to interview the Padillas. More Grand Jury ammunition perhaps?

[shelbar53]

Can you imagine what casey is starting to realize now? her life will be handcuffs, jail bars, prison cloths, prison food.....no more shopping partying, dancing...having fun. IMO she never knew what accepting consequences for her actions were....its a shame when finally she sees the outcome they are so severe....and so far its been for theft...wait till the more serious charges to come.

[101Spots]

I had not seen these photos before. They're quite lovely.

I hope Sprocket doesn't mind if I post her blog here. The link for the photos is at the end of the most recent entry.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

[marshmallow]

Good grief..So they sit and read message boards instead of being out looking for a child...
Something wrong with that picture..IMO
What is it with these people?



what's wrong with the picture is their willingness to hate anyone who isn't agreeing with them. They blame everyone for everything but they live in a house with the only person who has any info that could help find this child. The only person who holds the key to this. And instead of taking out their frustrations on her, because her atty. won't allow them to discuss this at all with her, they rant and rave about everyone. The person with the ability to take away some of that pain they have ..is Casey and if they truely believe her then they have got to be wondering why she won't help. I'm not worried about what the public will do to them as much as what they're doing to themselves. Their house must be hell. How do you accept that the child you bore and raised and forgave time after time lost your grandchild and won't cooperate to find her? I'm worried about them. I don't think they'll turn on her but I do think they'll turn on the public, the LE, and soon each other. Casey needs to get the beep over herself and start talking. Her family has to wonder why she won't. I know I do.

[crymeariver2006]

Wonder why the prosecution wanted that bit in there about the use of credit cards and checks?

[Kathlb]

I don't know, I wasn't watching caseycam, but there's no video yet this morning so my guess is that all was quiet on the anthony front.

BTW, noticed that WS is reporting that Yuri Melich is rolling out to California to interview the Padillas. More Grand Jury ammunition perhaps?

Oh, please let it be so!! MOO

[OneUp]

Sorry, haven't had time to keep up the last few days. Who is this Mark Hawkins everyone has been talking about?
Morning!:seeya:
I'm quoting myself from last night to answer your question:

"Quoted from our "Index & Persons of 400pg Official Documents w/Links"
on the main page of the Caylee forum:

(MH) Mark Hawkins
In the military, active duty stationed in Cali. was communicating almost daily with Casey. Said Casey told him she was going to make a trip to Cali. Said Casey needed to tell him something and wasn't sure how he would react

(AMC) Ann Marie Chase
Mother of Mark Hawkins last saw Casey at Target on July 10th, 2008
Also, per this link:
http://www.colonialhigh.ocps.net/alumni/2004.htm
The HS yearbook "Colonial High School Class of 2004 Alumni"
Casey and Mark Hawkins are both listed in the same class.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the beginnings of the factual information about Mark and how he comes into this.
What does it mean? Nothing except that he IS significant to Casey. Very few peers have had contact with Casey for years, Kiomarie, Ms. Chester, Ryan P., Jesse Grund, and Mark Hawkins are the only names I know of in this investigation that go back years.
Mark is the only one to my knowledge who had ceased having contact with Casey for a distinct time period, and she suddenly called him up to reconnect in some capacity right around the time Caylee went missing and her life changed dramatically in several ways( it was before Caylee was gone AFAIK).
I want to see why he was significant enough to Casey to find and begin an ongoing relationship with again ( nothing romantic intended to be inferred).
This is important to her somehow, maybe he was just a place to run to and that's all...maybe there is more. I do not see anything insidious on his behalf. FWIW, I do think LE has some puzzle pieces regarding him that we do not.
I'm still searching for facts vs. rumors. The rumors I have plenty of.
I'm not sure where this is going...but it gives me something specific to follow."
I also came across his fMyspace late last night, it is set to private, but I found this statement on it to be interesting:"mark i wish i was a super hero so i could find caylee "
http://www.myspace.com/57156371
Still nothing else but more internet rumors to add. I've found a few other "Mark Hawkins" related things, but have no way to veify if they relate to this one. It is a common enough name.
JMO, regarding all of the above ( and borrowed info. from others too!)

[msgatorslayer]

LOL, I corrected my post. They wanted to limit her use of her own also..judge said she could use her own, just not Amy's. :rolleyes: I don't think she has any, just Mom's. MOO

No matter if its hers or her Mom's, with no job, it will be Mom paying for them anyway, IMO. LOL

Since being on home confinement her shopping sprees have declined, anyway.

[Bluegal]

The pros wanted to limit her use of her own credit cards and checks. Judge denied. She can use her own, just can't use Amy's. Like we didn't know that. :-) MOO (I don't think she has any of her own anyway just her mom's.)

I don't know about that - I'm still wondering if she got that fat check from 20/20 - I don't believe it's ever been confirmed/denied. But it sounds like Casey is wanting to spend some money - and she couldn't have gotten it from anywhere else.:confused:

[KimD]

I dont know about you, but if people were discussing my family, and insinuating I may know more than I am saying, being the nosy nose I am, I am sure I would read everything I could. moo

If my granddaughter was missing, I would not spend one ounce of time reading what other's were saying. Every minute would be spent going door to door looking for her.

[chrissybot]

I dont know about you, but if people were discussing my family, and insinuating I may know more than I am saying, being the nosy nose I am, I am sure I would read everything I could. moo
This is just my opinion,but I believe they know that Caylee is dead. They, the A's, just don't want us the public to know that they know she is dead. They want us to believe that they think she is still alive. I think they, the A's, are all so self absorbed in themselves & it bothers them more than anything what people are saying about them. JMO-MOO

[threesnugbugs]

No matter if its hers or her Mom's, with no job, it will be Mom paying for them anyway, IMO. LOL

Since being on home confinement her shopping sprees have declined, anyway.

Don't be too sure---with all that time spent on a computer daily, she could be getting a whole lotta shopping done! :)

[Kathlb]

Wonder why the prosecution wanted that bit in there about the use of credit cards and checks?

I think they mentioned that they didn't know what checks or credit cards she had. However they mentioned her own, so it was confusing.

[msgatorslayer]

I'm surprised that no one brought up the fact (I think it's a fact) that in the trash that lady took, there were printouts from WS. :rolleyes: I wonder how they all keep those tons of lies straight. Well, I guess they don't, that's why they get caught all the time in their lies. JMHO :shrug:

I did notice Cindy telling WS that she never heard of them. I didn't bring up the trash lady's findings cause I'm still unsure if those pages actually existed. I thought for sure some media outlet would be all over them but it never happened.

Doesn't matter now, if the trash lady was truthful or not. Cindy admits to looking for bad things being said about her on the internet. :D

[crymeariver2006]

I don't know, I wasn't watching caseycam, but there's no video yet this morning so my guess is that all was quiet on the anthony front.

BTW, noticed that WS is reporting that Yuri Melich is rolling out to California to interview the Padillas. More Grand Jury ammunition perhaps?

Could be. Or Leonard only thinks they are coming to visit with him. I think they're going to talk to Mark Hawkins. I believe he would have more information (if such a thing exists) as to Caylee's whereabouts than Leonard would.

Unless Leonard really did have that house bugged.

Ironic that Casey's in jail and there are no protesters. And to think some say there is no connection. :shrug:

[~jomomma~]

In the last arraignment, they didn't say anything about Amy that I can recall. :shrug:

You don't think Casey and/or Cindy attempted to contact her to ask her to drop the charges do you?

i would NOT put that past them!!!

[anyonesguess]

I had not seen these photos before. They're quite lovely.

I hope Sprocket doesn't mind if I post her blog here. The link for the photos is at the end of the most recent entry.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/


Yikes. Did you see the camera in the back taking pictures of her in the 3rd picture? I am sure there will be more to surface in the future.

[Acorn]

If my granddaughter was missing, I would not spend one ounce of time reading what other's were saying. Every minute would be spent going door to door looking for her.

That's what Cindy said she'd do...go looking. Words, just words. :(


www.wesh.com/news/16924325/detail.html

"If I have to go out myself door-to-door and look for this child until the day I die, I will walk every inch of this earth and open every door and knock on every door and I will look in every nook and cranny until I find her," Cindy Anthony said.

[SavannahStar]

If my granddaughter was missing, I would not spend one ounce of time reading what other's were saying. Every minute would be spent going door to door looking for her.

Where would you go door to door? Personally I'd start out by doing research on the internet, to give me an idea where to go door to door. Not saying that info would necessarily come from WS, but you get what I mean, I'm sure. Looking for someone doesn't only mean physically. A friend of mine who was adopted once "searched" for her birth mother (and found her!). She didn't go door to door; she made use of the internet.

[Kathlb]

I did notice Cindy telling WS that she never heard of them. I didn't bring up the trash lady's findings cause I'm still unsure if those pages actually existed. I thought for sure some media outlet would be all over them but it never happened.

Doesn't matter now, if the trash lady was truthful or not. Cindy admits to looking for bad things being said about her on the internet. :D

I know, IIRC she showed the pages as she was going through it and mentioned what they were, but like you, I haven't heard any more about that. :shrug:

[Rebel Rouzer]

Wonder why the prosecution wanted that bit in there about the use of credit cards and checks?

Good question. I am still wondering what caused them to keep her on house arrest while out on bond? Most people charged with what she is charged with at this time aren't placed on home confinement monitoring? Seems they think for some reason that she may try and flee? :shrug:

[spageddy]

Starting a new thread if nobody minds

Good Morning:seeya:
I for one don't mind. Actually I didn't even notice the date. I can usually tell which thread is current. So let's not get all cranky about the date. Play nice today kids.
I would hope that Casey stays in jail a while- just to give her neighbors on Hopespring a little PEACE. Will the protesters still show up, even if she's not there? How about the cameras? Whisch came first- the protesters or the cameras? Cindy & Geo could perhaps save a little $$$ on bodyguards and yellow tape if she stayed in jail . Perhaps they could use that $$$ to help fine Caylee. :shrug: Just a thought

[crymeariver2006]

i would NOT put that past them!!!

Oh I wouldn't either. I wouldn't put it past Cindy to try and "buy" her off with her newfound ABC-20/20-exclusive rights-video-picture money.

[Kathlb]

In the last arraignment, they didn't say anything about Amy that I can recall. :shrug:

You don't think Casey and/or Cindy attempted to contact her to ask her to drop the charges do you?


If I were a betting person, I would put my money on that they did and she complained to LE. MOO

[Regina.Lampert]

Could be. Or Leonard only thinks they are coming to visit with him. I think they're going to talk to Mark Hawkins. I believe he would have more information (if such a thing exists) as to Caylee's whereabouts than Leonard would.

Unless Leonard really did have that house bugged.

Ironic that Casey's in jail and there are no protesters. And to think some say there is no connection. :shrug:

Remember tho, at one time the Padillas had someone on the inside of the anthony home, a woman in the beginning, iirc. Then towards the end Robert Dick was in there with them. I could see Yuri being very interested in what they observed and heard while there exposed to the wonder that is casey anthony.

I'm hoping for a Hawkins interview too.

[Rebel Rouzer]

This is just my opinion,but I believe they know that Caylee is dead. They, the A's, just don't want us the public to know that they know she is dead. They want us to believe that they think she is still alive. I think they, the A's, are all so self absorbed in themselves & it bothers them more than anything what people are saying about them. JMO-MOO


Hi crissy. I think you are right about them knowing and not wanting the public to know that they know.
They could very well be more worried about their image than Caylee. Which is very sad. IMO

[marshmallow]

Where would you go door to door? Personally I'd start out by doing research on the internet, to give me an idea where to go door to door. Not saying that info would necessarily come from WS, but you get what I mean, I'm sure. Looking for someone doesn't only mean physically. A friend of mine who was adopted once "searched" for her birth mother (and found her!). She didn't go door to door; she made use of the internet.



the problem is, without Casey's cooperation no one has any idea what to look for. Casey has all the answers. Whether we think we're looking for a body, a nanny, or a kidnapper, without Casey, Caylee cannot be found.

[starling]

Makes no sense that CA & GA complain about the people standing on the side lines of their property, messageboards clicking away, media talking heads who are all collectively out-raged & questioning this who-yah story. Because I can see now CA & GA strong personalities & bold stances doing the exact same thing if shoe on other foot.
IMO they will never make a 'save' on this entire..Even the best of all the outcomes for them.. Casey gets away with murder it will follow all of them forever

JMO

Hope one day they find little Caylee & Trenton
Bless and give strength to the ones that search and the ones who never stop questioning

[Kathlb]

Good question. I am still wondering what caused them to keep her on house arrest while out on bond? Most people charged with what she is charged with at this time aren't placed on home confinement monitoring? Seems they think for some reason that she may try and flee? :shrug:

I'm guessing that they had evidence of that possibility and presented it to the judge.

[msgatorslayer]

There's always on-line shopping!

:biggrin: A lil shopping always makes a girl feel better. If the shower and mani/pedi didn't make Casey talk, maybe shopping will, lol

[SavannahStar]

the problem is, without Casey's cooperation no one has any idea what to look for. Casey has all the answers. Whether we think we're looking for a body, a nanny, or a kidnapper, without Casey, Caylee cannot be found.

I certainly agree with that!

[Joan Weiss]

Good morning,

I have a question about NG last night. The 2 guest lawyers were discussing the tapes just released. They brought up that Casey was not given her Miranda rights. I am confused. She wasn't under arrest at that time, so were they supposed to read them to her? Is this going to cause problems later? Thank you. Sorry if that is a dumb question. :)They didn't need to give her Miranda rights. She was not under arrest. They were trying to help her find her child.

http://www.mirandawarning.org/pre-arrestquestioning.html

[crymeariver2006]

Where would you go door to door? Personally I'd start out by doing research on the internet, to give me an idea where to go door to door. Not saying that info would necessarily come from WS, but you get what I mean, I'm sure. Looking for someone doesn't only mean physically. A friend of mine who was adopted once "searched" for her birth mother (and found her!). She didn't go door to door; she made use of the internet.

If Cindy were researching places Caylee might be or who she might be with on the internet, I might agree with you.

The fact remains that Cindy never once knocked on a door at the Sawgrass apartments where Casey told her she had last seen Caylee.

She's not looking for her birth mother, she's looking for fodder for some type of libel/slander suit and to attempt to shut down sites that don't apparently agree with her that her daughter is not a murderer.

[KimD]

Where would you go door to door? Personally I'd start out by doing research on the internet, to give me an idea where to go door to door. Not saying that info would necessarily come from WS, but you get what I mean, I'm sure. Looking for someone doesn't only mean physically. A friend of mine who was adopted once "searched" for her birth mother (and found her!). She didn't go door to door; she made use of the internet.

How about the locations she said she has leads from... Puerto Rico, Texas, Mexico :shrug: .

[Kathlb]

Link please! :D

It's on WS Michele, the title of the thread is "W.S. Exclusive. Cindy A. Tells Websleuths Owner Her Lawyer Is Taking On Websites!"

[OneUp]

Well, I say let them lurk here all they want. And, might I say, that it will not make a bit of difference to LE. They are professionals and quite able to do their job.I totally agree with you! I feel badly for anyone close to a case that choses to read message boards during the investigation of the crime, these places get pretty rough, and details are discussed here that I'm sure most would rather avoid. If you CHOOSE to read the opinions of thousands of people worldwide, unfortunately, you will find many you do not care for...that is just the way it is.
I'm concerned that Caylees family feels this is a valuable outlet for their time and for the generous donations of others. Caylee is depending on LE, and her "CiCi", "GiGi", and Uncle Lee to bring her home. Her mother has already let her down, but others can use their influence and care to find her and bring her from where she is now to where she should be.
I do feel that if they would devote their prayers and energy to finding Caylee and ignore all the other distractions that they would find her through prayer and actual searches, walking around and following their inner voice. My Tia was found at a place I dreamed about after much prayer, and I do believe that the mysteries of my own mind so focused on her out of my love for her and the Lord Himself allowed me to take LE to search those places until we found the one my precious baby had been left at.
Please don't give up George and Cindy! Please don't take the easier route and continue to pretend everything is OK. You know it is not. There is still time to do the right thing and put Caylee first! If you trust in God, he can make things better...not the same, but better. Ignore what others think of you, you only need God, your self respect, and each other...everything else will work itself out if you let it! I promise you it will! Give Caylee the love and dignity she deserves and help bring her home.
This is just my opinion, and my hope for the Anthony family.

[Regina.Lampert]

Where would you go door to door? Personally I'd start out by doing research on the internet, to give me an idea where to go door to door. Not saying that info would necessarily come from WS, but you get what I mean, I'm sure. Looking for someone doesn't only mean physically. A friend of mine who was adopted once "searched" for her birth mother (and found her!). She didn't go door to door; she made use of the internet.

Given the exact set of circumstances as is in this case, I would go to the door of my daughter's room, enter and not leave until I had the location of my granddaughter.

I am not speaking of any kind of violence either. I would talk to my daughter and keep talking until she understood that her only option was to tell me the truth.

[kOOkie1]

Remember tho, at one time the Padillas had someone on the inside of the anthony home, a woman in the beginning, iirc. Then towards the end Robert Dick was in there with them. I could see Yuri being very interested in what they observed and heard while there exposed to the wonder that is casey anthony.

I'm hoping for a Hawkins interview too.


Ohh thats right..I had forgotten that!! hmmm.

[st777jo]

Don't be too sure---with all that time spent on a computer daily, she could be getting a whole lotta shopping done! :)

Really, maybe more chloroform, or something else along those lines. Mom and Dad, be very careful, and check all packages arriving at your door. jmo

[FrankieBones1]

Link please! :D

It boggles the mind!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195

[SavannahStar]

Given the exact set of circumstances as is in this case, I would go to the door of my daughter's room, enter and not leave until I had the location of my granddaughter.

I am not speaking of any kind of violence either. I would talk to my daughter and keep talking until she understood that her only option was to tell me the truth.

Sounds good when typed out like that....and many people have stated the exact same thing. Only problem: easier said than done.

[shelbar53]

What happened to the criminal Media attorney that is working with the anthonys public image? nejame....If he is trying to change the publics opinon of the anthonys the first thing he should tell them is : no swearing in public, no public outbursts of anger, no angy or mean expressions in public, stop confrontations with protesters.

[FrankieBones1]

Given the exact set of circumstances as is in this case, I would go to the door of my daughter's room, enter and not leave until I had the location of my granddaughter.

I am not speaking of any kind of violence either. I would talk to my daughter and keep talking until she understood that her only option was to tell me the truth.
Great post, Scampi. I'll never understand why she couldn't get any info out of her.

[ellegna]

I know, IIRC she showed the pages as she was going through it and mentioned what they were, but like you, I haven't heard any more about that. :shrug:

Just guessing but maybe LE became interested, paid her a visit and took them :shrug:

[101Spots]

What happened to the criminal Media attorney that is working with the anthonys public image? nejame....If he is trying to change the publics opinon of the anthonys the first thing he should tell them is : no swearing in public, no public outbursts of anger, no angy or mean expressions in public, stop confrontations with protesters.

He was whisked off to NYC for his appearances on the Today show, etc. Hasn't been heard or seen since.

Take the money and run?

[OneUp]

Hey everybody, for those wondering I had a Wonderful 24th Birthday. I went Shopping at Ulta (a Makeup Store) and Borders; then I went out to eat at Chili's With my Mother and Step-Father.

Never thought that Casey would be arrested on my Birthday. I guess I got one of my Birthday Wishes. :DHI! I'm sorry not to note it...too many Birthdays here, I can't even remember my entire families days!
I'm glad you enjoyed yours!
Casey getting picked up can't have been your wish though! Too many others here wanting to claim that LOL!
JMO...Smile people!
My day will honor Cayle..the peace I enjoy on other days is for the world at large and all of the children in it.:)

[msgatorslayer]

If you go back to the phone calls between Cindy and Casey, Cindy tells her, you're in jail because you lied to police.

At that point, IMO, Cindy believed LE, and their decision to arrest Casey.

Something changed afterwards.

Cindy choses to ignore the basics. Casey had no job. The nanny doesn't exist, and the apartment Casey alledges to have dropped Caylee of at is, and has been, vacant.

[SavannahStar]

If Cindy were researching places Caylee might be or who she might be with on the internet, I might agree with you.

The fact remains that Cindy never once knocked on a door at the Sawgrass apartments where Casey told her she had last seen Caylee.

She's not looking for her birth mother, she's looking for fodder for some type of libel/slander suit and to attempt to shut down sites that don't apparently agree with her that her daughter is not a murderer.

Do we know she never went to Sawgrass apts? I don't recall reading that.

[msgatorslayer]

Well, if thats his goal, he sure didn't do a good job when Cindy was out there after midnight confronting thug like protesters with their mouthy kids in tote. moo

Cindy had better control her hammer. The way she waves that, it can be considered threatning, IMO. And Florida has some pretty open laws regarding a persons right to protect themselves.

[OneUp]

read charges-bond at little over $1000-pros wanted to restrict her from using credit cards and checks-judge states "her own personal credit card"- request deniedWas that perhaps requested to bar her from having direct access to any checks written for donation? I wish people wouldn't send their checks! I guess you can't protect them from themselves though!
I'm glad she is not allowed contact with Amy...IMO, there must be a reason that has come up. I wish they would apply that to any potential witness against her.
JMO.

[Broderick]

Remember tho, at one time the Padillas had someone on the inside of the anthony home, a woman in the beginning, iirc. Then towards the end Robert Dick was in there with them. I could see Yuri being very interested in what they observed and heard while there exposed to the wonder that is casey anthony.

I'm hoping for a Hawkins interview too.


I wonder if the Padilla's were wise enough to put in listening devices? Certainly not legal, but nothing in this case makes sense.

[nutterbutter]

Well, when going back to research it makes it difficult if there is a different standard all the time imo. Take today, which mind you is the 16th. Not the 18th. Anyway, perhaps new threads should be limited to moderators since many days we have 2 or 3 new threads starting up and everyone is running around confused or someone is putting the wrong date in the thread title.

Might not be a big deal sure, but seems amateurish to me.
mistakes do happen and it happens to the best of us.CW will fix it so it is not really a big thing.moo

[anyonesguess]

Where would you go door to door? Personally I'd start out by doing research on the internet, to give me an idea where to go door to door. Not saying that info would necessarily come from WS, but you get what I mean, I'm sure. Looking for someone doesn't only mean physically. A friend of mine who was adopted once "searched" for her birth mother (and found her!). She didn't go door to door; she made use of the internet.

The first door I would go to would be Casey's bedroom door. I wouldn't knock on the door though. I would knock on her head until she told me where Caylee was, and go from there.

[crymeariver2006]

Do we know she never went to Sawgrass apts? I don't recall reading that.


Do you know that she did?

We can go on and on about this, but it'll get real old real fast.

:rolleyes:

[Broderick]

mistakes do happen and it happens to the best of us.CW will fix it so it is not really a big thing.moo

I think moderators, administrators and board owners have better things to do like smack around those that don't follow the terms of service. JMO.

[SavannahStar]

Do you know that she did?

We can go on and on about this, but it'll get real old real fast.

:rolleyes:

No, I'm sorry I don't know, and I never said she did. You, however, said it was fact she didn't, so I followed up on that. Nothing to be angry about. We can drop it. I honestly don't know if she went there or not.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I just read on another site that Cindy and her Attorney are trying to get Websites closed down for things posted about them. I thought they were trying to find Caylee? How do they have time to scour the web to find posts they don't agree with?

Let's see. Chasing protesters around. Yard work. Perusing the internet. Meeting with their attorney.
Taking hundreds of calls.

When do they have time to look for Caylee? The Anthony's and their attorney they hired to help them? :shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

Good question. I am still wondering what caused them to keep her on house arrest while out on bond? Most people charged with what she is charged with at this time aren't placed on home confinement monitoring? Seems they think for some reason that she may try and flee? :shrug:Good morning, Rebel. IIRC, the prosecution requested that she be denied bail until her child is found. I suspect this was a compromise by the judge. imo

[OneUp]

Can you imagine what casey is starting to realize now? her life will be handcuffs, jail bars, prison cloths, prison food.....no more shopping partying, dancing...having fun. IMO she never knew what accepting consequences for her actions were....its a shame when finally she sees the outcome they are so severe....and so far its been for theft...wait till the more serious charges to come.Yes, I imagine her parents are thinking of every time they made excuses for her or bailed her out of trouble with small infractions...and wishing they had put her in the naughty No-No chair a few times more often ( just a figure of speech).
I'd far rather see a childs tears when I punish them than visit my grown child in jail, a hospital, or a morgue.
JMO.

[crymeariver2006]

No, I'm sorry I don't know, and I never said she did. You, however, said it was fact she didn't, so I followed up on that. Nothing to be angry about. We can drop it. I honestly don't know if she went there or not.


I'm not angry at all. Don't really like to be accused of it either.

You have a nice day!

:seeya:

[warrkat]

It can be the 18th if you like,, that means it PAYDAY for me ,,lol:tongue:

GOOD MORNING ALL :seeya:

Good morning.

I want it to be the 16th. On the 18th, I have to go to the dr. and get stuck again. I've given those people almost as much blood as I have given them money!

Find Caylee today!!!!!

[anyonesguess]

Yes, I imagine her parents are thinking of every time they made excuses for her or bailed her out of trouble with small infractions...and wishing they had put her in the naughty No-No chair a few times more often ( just a figure of speech).
I'd far rather see a childs tears when I punish them than visit my grown child in jail, a hospital, or a morgue.
JMO.


Well, with all the practice runs to jail, the family should have no problem adjusting when she finally goes to prison imo

[Broderick]

I just read on another site that Cindy and her Attorney are trying to get Websites closed down for things posted about them. I thought they were trying to find Caylee? How do they have time to scour the web to find posts they don't agree with?

Let's see. Chasing protesters around. Yard work. Perusing the internet. Meeting with their attorney.
Taking hundreds of calls.

When do they have time to look for Caylee? The Anthony's and their attorney they hired to help them? :shrug:

They seem to be their own worst enemy, or is it that they want to be the most hated people in America for other reasons?

[Rebel Rouzer]

Good morning, Rebel. IIRC, the prosecution requested that she be denied bail until her child is found. I suspect this was a compromise by the judge. imo

If her child is not found by the court date set for the neglect charges. Does she go back on home confinement? How long can they legally keep her on home confinement and under what circumstances from the court date? Sorry I have not had enough coffee this morning.

[JainDough]

Does anyone know when Casey will be getting out today?

[Joan Weiss]

Well, when going back to research it makes it difficult if there is a different standard all the time imo. Take today, which mind you is the 16th. Not the 18th. Anyway, perhaps new threads should be limited to moderators since many days we have 2 or 3 new threads starting up and everyone is running around confused or someone is putting the wrong date in the thread title.

Might not be a big deal sure, but seems amateurish to me.

I think moderators, administrators and board owners have better things to do like smack around those that don't follow the terms of service. JMO.Make up your mind. :confused:

[ruth66]

Can you imagine what casey is starting to realize now? her life will be handcuffs, jail bars, prison cloths, prison food.....no more shopping partying, dancing...having fun. IMO she never knew what accepting consequences for her actions were....its a shame when finally she sees the outcome they are so severe....and so far its been for theft...wait till the more serious charges to come.

She doesn't see that because right now she is getting more attention for being "bad" then she ever got for anything else. I am of the opinion that this is right down her alley: all the media attention, Baez's complete and undivided attention, her parents and brother falling all over themselves trying to "protect" her, big burly bodyguards outside her house. I don't doubt she is comparing herself with the likes of Brittney Spears and Paris Hilton. She is not capable of coming to the reality that this scenario does not bode well for her, she can't get past all the "star" effect....

Sad...Where is Caylee?

JMHO

[st777jo]

The first door I would go to would be Casey's bedroom door. I wouldn't knock on the door though. I would knock on her head until she told me where Caylee was, and go from there.

You got that right.

[Broderick]

Make up your mind. :confused:

About what? I was clear.

[SavannahStar]

I'm not angry at all. Don't really like to be accused of it either.

You have a nice day!

:seeya:

Guess it was the use of this in responding to my post --->:rolleyes: and the tone. Sorry I misinterpreted. You have a nice day too!

[MyrDawn]

Does anyone know when Casey will be getting out today?

It's early enough so I wouldn't be surprised if she's out again today. They're probably busy arranging to post the bond right now.

JMO

[ellegna]

He was whisked off to NYC for his appearances on the Today show, etc. Hasn't been heard or seen since.

Take the money and run?

Well that's two family spokespersons who appear can't stop them from doing what they want.

[Rayosunshine]

Good question. I am still wondering what caused them to keep her on house arrest while out on bond? Most people charged with what she is charged with at this time aren't placed on home confinement monitoring? Seems they think for some reason that she may try and flee? :shrug:


I think she was placed on home confinement because LE doesn't have Jack and they wanted her secure just in case they find Jack.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[starling]

It boggles the mind!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71195

:lol: AS IF?

How cunning she was at the beginning.
She must of been a sucessful bully in life up until NOW

Tree----->apple

JMO

[Joan Weiss]

If her child is not found by the court date set for the neglect charges. Does she go back on home confinement? How long can they legally keep her on home confinement and under what circumstances from the court date? Sorry I have not had enough coffee this morning.That's a good question, Rebel. I have no idea. This whole case is so full of hyperbole, it's hard to sort it all out. imo

[SavannahStar]

So basically, all this stress and busybodies screaming at her from the sidewalk, on top of her family falling apart, a maybe murderer daughter, a possibly more than likely dead grandchild, who she loved more than anything, do you think she deserves all this because she enabled her mentally ill daughter wild ways? Do you think if Caylee hadn't been born Casey would have been out on her butt long ago?

Do you see what happened when Cindy actually grew a pair and confronted Casey and probably told her to get a job, and her own place and be a mother?

moo

Well said! :beer:

[SavannahStar]

I think she was placed on home confinement because LE doesn't have Jack and they wanted her secure just in case they find Jack.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

LOL! Seriously......I'm starting to wonder about Jack too.

[beetlebrow]

No matter if its hers or her Mom's, with no job, it will be Mom paying for them anyway, IMO. LOL

Since being on home confinement her shopping sprees have declined, anyway.

Well......she is still online.......she could be entering anyones CC number, who knows :shrug: JMO

[Joan Weiss]

It's early enough so I wouldn't be surprised if she's out again today. They're probably busy arranging to post the bond right now.

JMOI have no doubt. 10% is only a little more than $100. Baez probably has that in his pocket. Heck, I do. imo

[kakax]

Do you know that she did?

We can go on and on about this, but it'll get real old real fast.

:rolleyes:

One thing we do know, LE did. They interviewed many residents at Sawgrass.

[MyrDawn]

If her child is not found by the court date set for the neglect charges. Does she go back on home confinement? How long can they legally keep her on home confinement and under what circumstances from the court date? Sorry I have not had enough coffee this morning.

JMO That would depend on what happens at her trial for the neglect charges. If she's found guilty, she'll be sentenced and sent to prison. If she's found not guilty, I would imagine she'd stay on home confinement until the trials for the other charges.

If she's found not guilty of all the charges against her at her trials, she'd be free as a bird until if and when she's charged with something else, such as murder.

IMO, she'll be going to prison for more than one of the existing charges!

[Rebel Rouzer]

I think she was placed on home confinement because LE doesn't have Jack and they wanted her secure just in case they find Jack.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

I definitely do NOT agree about LE having jack. They have arrested people for murder on less than what they have REVEALED in this case. They could arrest her if tey wanted to. TH on NG lastnight agreed that LE are waiting for the right time and taking their time. It's a very smart move and the right thing to do. IMO I might be impatient and want them to do it now but I understand why they aren't.

[FrankieBones1]

One thing we do know, LE did. They interviewed many residents at Sawgrass.
For sure, Kakax. And if Cindy had been there knocking on doors, we would have seen it on video over and over again.

[OneUp]

Good question. I am still wondering what caused them to keep her on house arrest while out on bond? Most people charged with what she is charged with at this time aren't placed on home confinement monitoring? Seems they think for some reason that she may try and flee? :shrug:Maybe REB. something in the Psych. evals tells the court she is high risk to flee?
She doesn't really have anything to tie her to the comminty except her family...and we have all witnessed her unfortunate lack of regard for them!
In regards to Casey having a checking account and shopping, I'm sure she has the time to shop online. Sadly, because people who wish to help have sent funds directly to the home, she probably has plenty of money that was sent "to help Casey". Just know that if you send ANYONE money, and it does not go directly to a legitimate source set up correctly, that you have no way of knowing how that money will be spent. I'll stop their, we all can make our own determinations on that subject.
JMO.

[kakax]

I definitely do NOT agree about LE having jack. They have arrested people for murder on less than what they have REVEALED in this case. They could arrest her if tey wanted to. TH on NG lastnight agreed that LE are waiting for the right time and taking their time. It's a very smart move and the right thing to do. IMO I might be impatient and want them to do it now but I understand why they aren't.



I agree. There is no reason to rush it. My thoughts are they do have a deadline of sorts. I don't think they want to go through with a trial on child neglect. JMO, but I think they will charge her with more serious charges by then.

[marinewife5]

:lol: AS IF?

How cunning she was at the beginning.
She must of been a sucessful bully in life up until NOW

Tree----->apple

JMO

and the only offensive language she is patrolling is the M-word. jmo

[MyrDawn]

Does anyone know if Casey has a valid CA drivers license?

[Acorn]

Do you know that she did?

We can go on and on about this, but it'll get real old real fast.

:rolleyes:

She indicated that would be unwise...something about Caylee being hurt if they went to the right door at the apartments. So, I doubt very much she would go looking there. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Even with the TES search, why couldn't she look at it as a way to find some material thing left in the area to prove the existence of ::cough cough:: Zanny, Sam and their children?

moo and all that

[Jpanda]

I definitely do NOT agree about LE having jack. They have arrested people for murder on less than what they have REVEALED in this case. They could arrest her if tey wanted to. TH on NG lastnight agreed that LE are waiting for the right time and taking their time. It's a very smart move and the right thing to do. IMO I might be impatient and want them to do it now but I understand why they aren't.

ITA. What's the rush? IMO, LE knows that Caylee is dead and I'm sure they would like to exhaust every opportunity to find Caylee's body before they make their arrest, since they know they won't get any answers from Casey herself. This case is so complex that I'm sure they'd like to know EVERY last detail so they can be well prepared in court.

LE can't take a case like this lightly - if they arrest her too soon and aren't aware of EVERY single detail, some surprises might show up in court and then Casey gets off....forever.

Yep, it's definitely worth crossing every single "t" and dotting every single "i." Reading those arrest warrants and affidavits show me that LE is doing just that, IMO.

[OneUp]

the problem is, without Casey's cooperation no one has any idea what to look for. Casey has all the answers. Whether we think we're looking for a body, a nanny, or a kidnapper, without Casey, Caylee cannot be found.I had no cooperation either, I went door to door, person to person, and tip to tip MYSELF personally. LE went, and I went to as many as was humanly possible too, even if I was only allowed to sit in a cruiser and wait, I went. I made calls, and looked until I was dropping on my feet.
I was there when she was found. That meant something to me...searching and finding her to lay to rest was the last thing I could do to take care of my Angel.
JMO.

[beetlebrow]

JMO That would depend on what happens at her trial for the neglect charges. If she's found guilty, she'll be sentenced and sent to prison. If she's found not guilty, I would imagine she'd stay on home confinement until the trials for the other charges.

If she's found not guilty of all the charges against her at her trials, she'd be free as a bird until if and when she's charged with something else, such as murder.

IMO, she'll be going to prison for more than one of the existing charges!


Casey's defense against the neglect charges will be interesting to say the least.....

If you think about it, Baez will have to use some of the same arguments against the neglect charge (i.e...we dont know where Caylee is..etc).....so if LE goes through with the neglect case we will see alot of Casey's possible defense to murder charges ahead of time. IMO

[Joan Weiss]

I definitely do NOT agree about LE having jack. They have arrested people for murder on less than what they have REVEALED in this case. They could arrest her if tey wanted to. TH on NG lastnight agreed that LE are waiting for the right time and taking their time. It's a very smart move and the right thing to do. IMO I might be impatient and want them to do it now but I understand why they aren't.ITA. They have all their ducks; they are going to line them up nicely and sew it all up, air tight. imo

I think Cindy is riled because LE is not sharing with her. imo

[JainDough]

I definitely do NOT agree about LE having jack. They have arrested people for murder on less than what they have REVEALED in this case. They could arrest her if tey wanted to. TH on NG lastnight agreed that LE are waiting for the right time and taking their time. It's a very smart move and the right thing to do. IMO I might be impatient and want them to do it now but I understand why they aren't.

I agree. What's the rush? It seems to me that without a body, the more circumstantial evidence they have the better. She's not going anywhere and time is on LE's side.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I agree. There is no reason to rush it. My thoughts are they do have a deadline of sorts. I don't think they want to go through with a trial on child neglect. JMO, but I think they will charge her with more serious charges by then.



I'm thinking along those lines too. Wonder if they will get her to court on the neglect charges then drop the neglect charges and file murder charges? Can they wait until the last minute to do that? Sorry if my questions arent making sense yet this morning. lol

[WinnieLeigh7]

I have no doubt. 10% is only a little more than $100. Baez probably has that in his pocket. Heck, I do. imo

So, huh....Loan??

Cause I don't even have a dime :(

I got this here credit card...hhhmmm think anyone would question me about being John Doe Smith?? I could pass for John, right??

[anyonesguess]

Good question. I am still wondering what caused them to keep her on house arrest while out on bond? Most people charged with what she is charged with at this time aren't placed on home confinement monitoring? Seems they think for some reason that she may try and flee? :shrug:

Well technically she fled for 31 days without reporting her daughter missing to anyone imo.

[Regina.Lampert]

Sounds good when typed out like that....and many people have stated the exact same thing. Only problem: easier said than done.

Like I said, no one would be leaving that room until I had the truth. My concern would be twofold, the location of my granddaughter and the immortal soul of my daughter. Not her defense or liability in court, her future in this world and the next would be paramount. I would stress that I could forgive her anything if she tells me the truth and then we go from there.

I most certainly would not be impeding the investigation and publicizing so called facts to cloud the public's view of this case and lying in my daughter's defense.

[Jpanda]

ITA. They have all their ducks; they are going to line them up nicely and sew it all up, air tight. imo


ITA. Not to mention how much time it takes to follow up on every one of Casey's ridiculous lies - looking for people who don't exist, interviewing "witnesses" who have nothing to do with the case (ie: poor Jeff Hopkins), following up on bogus sitings, etc.

jmo

[bballgrl]

the problem is, without Casey's cooperation no one has any idea what to look for. Casey has all the answers. Whether we think we're looking for a body, a nanny, or a kidnapper, without Casey, Caylee cannot be found.

You hit the nail right on the head. What is Casey thinking? At this point, so much time has gone by, if she was truly frightened about what could happen to Casey if she talked... At this point, she has to realize it would be WORSE if she did not. If her story had any merit, she would be singing like a bird by now.

Her whole story makes no sense whatsoever. Can't CA see that???

[starling]

and the only offensive language she is patrolling is the M-word. jmo

:beer:
EXACTLY!

[SavannahStar]

ITA. They have all their ducks; they are going to line them up nicely and sew it all up, air tight. imo

I think Cindy is riled because LE is not sharing with her. imo

I believed that for a very long time. I just have a little niggling suspicion, just a DROP now....that the forensics aren't as good as we are led to believe.

That being said, I certainly agree that charges of murder without a body are nothing new and can be successfully tried.

[FeelinFroggy617]

ITA. Not to mention how much time it takes to follow up on every one of Casey's ridiculous lies - looking for people who don't exist, interviewing "witnesses" who have nothing to do with the case (ie: poor Jeff Hopkins), following up on bogus sitings, etc.

jmo


I know this interview with GA/CA is a few weeks old.... but just listen to the hesitation and lies in this interview. :flamemad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQSLHxcQU1Y&feature=related

[Joan Weiss]

So, huh....Loan??

Cause I don't even have a dime :(

I got this here credit card...hhhmmm think anyone would question me about being John Doe Smith?? I could pass for John, right??:biggrin:
I like cash...

[MyrDawn]

I think the LE has botched this case in a lot of ways, starting with arresting her so soon, they should have just let her be free and without fear she was being followed, basically they should have been more nonchalant. If they have a stain that is Caylees DNA, Casey should have been charged, letting this manic situation go on with the protesters, Padilla, and what not is not the right way. I just am not a huge fan of vigilante justice, this is the United States and whether or not anyone likes it Casey is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, so lets put her there and bring some closure for Caseys family. The LE could end this circus if they wanted too. imo.

I think they felt they had to arrest her when they did. She was definitely on alert after those interviews that they didn't believe her so I think they arrested her to prevent her from hiding evidence of what she did with Caylee, in case she hadn't dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's.

[Joan Weiss]

I think the LE has botched this case in a lot of ways, starting with arresting her so soon, they should have just let her be free and without fear she was being followed, basically they should have been more nonchalant. If they have a stain that is Caylees DNA, Casey should have been charged, letting this manic situation go on with the protesters, Padilla, and what not is not the right way. I just am not a huge fan of vigilante justice, this is the United States and whether or not anyone likes it Casey is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, so lets put her there and bring some closure for Caseys family. The LE could end this circus if they wanted too. imo.I think LE is being very careful. If you review their statements in pressers, they word things very carefully. They will not appear to have rushed to judgment in court. They are now going to CA to search for Caylee. They will look great in court. imo

[chrissybot]

ITA, but for what purpose do they try to keep up this ruse? Do they think if they keep saying Caylee is alive (like Casey does) that Casey won't "get in trouble" for Caylees disappearance?
The day they left the OCSD after speaking with the FBI- when the forensics were back on the decomp and hair, etc I thought from the look on both of their faces as the media followed into the parking lot that they had "seen the light". Hard to refute when FBI spends 2 hours telling you about all the forensic evidence. Cos Forensics don't lie, hope the FBI said that (if they didn't, George knows) Cindys eyes were red from crying and George looked absolutely devastated. Then, after that, Padilla is correct what he said on NG last night, the went into total defensive mode. They know.

Anyway, yesterday I had to step AFK because I felt so sick (some virus I have picked up) anyway my hubby waited on me hand and foot, bringing me broth, went to pick up my Rx's, etc. But when they said on HLN about Casey being back in jail, I literally came up out of the bed and screamed "YES YES YES". It was short lived tho when I realized it was for the lesser charges. I wish they would just arrest her already for murder, jeez they have enough forensic and circumstantial evidence, they would win this case I am sure. Like that lady on NG said, many have been convicted on less than WE KNOW THAT THEY HAVE. They have more than we know they have, so surely they have enough? I am hopefull they are not waiting to find a body as I beleive that day will never come. I wonder if that is a source of comfort for G&C, the lack of a body? They knows shes gone, but don't they want the body so they can have closure? I would not waste any emotional feeling over Casey, after all the lies and stealing and probable murder of their grand daughter. But thats just me.
I am highly amused that Cindy thinks she can get websites closed down. She shouldn't be 'offended' by IS because we don't use foul language. I can't beleive thats her focus, with the potty mouth she has, but I can tell you the other night the thing that got her flying into that woman out front was the woman called Casey the bee word. After all the cuss words she has also thrown around, this bothers her? Simply amazing.
Also, I am wondering how come Lee drives Casey to and fro all the time now, how come George and Cindy don't haul her around?
And lastly, I think everyone saying Cindy should just stay in the house is a good idea, to heck with the yellow tape, its ridiculous anyway. They have a lovely backyard and I would think they would enjoy being out back far more than being out front with the protesters.
Ok I am done. Have been holding this in since last night.:cuss:
Anyway, good morning!!
:rose:Feel better soon!!
So, are we waiting for Casey to be bonded out?? Cam 2?

[Margo555]

Like I said, no one would be leaving that room until I had the truth. My concern would be twofold, the location of my granddaughter and the immortal soul of my daughter. Not her defense or liability in court, her future in this world and the next would be paramount. I would stress that I could forgive her anything if she tells me the truth and then we go from there.

I most certainly would not be impeding the investigation and publicizing so called facts to cloud the public's view of this case and lying in my daughter's defense.

Good Morning everyone! I have been following this case from day one and am so overwrought sometimes I could scream. :mad: It's nice to be here with you all. I can't imagine having a child "lose" a grandchild and then refusing to talk. She would be at my mercy until she told me exactly what happened. I would still love her, but she would take responsibility for this heinous crime. Too much covering up goes on nowadays to my liking. It's raising a generation with too many people that think the rules are made for everyone but them. JMHO

for Caylee, we hope to have you home soon darlin' :rose:

[Joan Weiss]

Is she still in? I just got on i hope this is the day we hear news.
Caylee:rose:As far as I know...:shrug:

[OneUp]

So basically, all this stress and busybodies screaming at her from the sidewalk, on top of her family falling apart, a maybe murderer daughter, a possibly more than likely dead grandchild, who she loved more than anything, do you think she deserves all this because she enabled her mentally ill daughter wild ways? Do you think if Caylee hadn't been born Casey would have been out on her butt long ago?

Do you see what happened when Cindy actually grew a pair and confronted Casey and probably told her to get a job, and her own place and be a mother?

moo
IMO, nothing a person has suffered gives them theright toharass or threaten others. The law tends to agree with that under most circumstances. I would not say Cindy "deserves" anything she is suffering, but I do think her actions before caylee went missing contributed to that and her actions since are creating the unfortunate response she is getting from much of the community.
JMO.
I wish she could go back and change things, but like all of us she must face the consequences that come as a result of her own decisions.

[Laurieann]

someone posted this link yesterday. I dont know if this is where casey will be appearing. but its a live link to the court procedings

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/live_broadcast.shtml


is this the right link?
Has she already been thru and released? I'm watching this now.
This one is all men right now. No body in jumpsuits, everyone in street clothes.

[Joan Weiss]

ITA. Not to mention how much time it takes to follow up on every one of Casey's ridiculous lies - looking for people who don't exist, interviewing "witnesses" who have nothing to do with the case (ie: poor Jeff Hopkins), following up on bogus sitings, etc.

jmoYep, and they are doing that.

[lax3]

While Casey was still in jail, there was one visit with her parents that the recording wasn't released by LE, I remember parents left the jail visibly upset and didn't utter a word (unlike CA). They learned something new that day and since then they decided to defend Casey no matter what. It hit them hard that Caylee wasn't alive anymore.

[kakax]

I'm thinking along those lines too. Wonder if they will get her to court on the neglect charges then drop the neglect charges and file murder charges? Can they wait until the last minute to do that? Sorry if my questions arent making sense yet this morning. lol

I'm not sure...your question makes sense...wish I knew. lol

[Laurieann]

ok, a woman in a blue jumpsuit (not Casey) is up next. Am I watching the right thing?

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/live_broadcast.shtml

[kakax]

I had no cooperation either, I went door to door, person to person, and tip to tip MYSELF personally. LE went, and I went to as many as was humanly possible too, even if I was only allowed to sit in a cruiser and wait, I went. I made calls, and looked until I was dropping on my feet.
I was there when she was found. That meant something to me...searching and finding her to lay to rest was the last thing I could do to take care of my Angel.
JMO.

:rose: for you and your Angel

[frances1]

I haven't read back through all the posts, but the thread is dated 9/18. Did I sleep for two entire days?

[rosejustrose]

JMO That would depend on what happens at her trial for the neglect charges. If she's found guilty, she'll be sentenced and sent to prison. If she's found not guilty, I would imagine she'd stay on home confinement until the trials for the other charges.

If she's found not guilty of all the charges against her at her trials, she'd be free as a bird until if and when she's charged with something else, such as murder.

IMO, she'll be going to prison for more than one of the existing charges!
Good Morning, All! Hope everyone is having a good day!

ITA, MD! How can any jury not find her guilty of child neglect? Her child has not been seen for 3 months and she can't provide a reasonable explanation for that other than the non-existant Zanny the Nanny. Pleeeease! I agree she will be going to prison for more than one of the pending charges. JMHO.

[Joan Weiss]

Joan, is it a search, or is it to talk to Padilla, because if they have evidence of a dead Caylee, why are they going to Cali, do they think Casey sent the body via fed ex or something, because I dont recall Casey being in Cali, or have I missed something?

:rose:According to this link, they are going to search for Caylee. That can encompass a lot of talking, to whomever...


http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html

[MyrDawn]

I think LE is being very careful. If you review their statements in pressers, they word things very carefully. They will not appear to have rushed to judgment in court. They are now going to CA to search for Caylee. They will look great in court. imo

I definitely agree. I believe the LE has more evidence we haven't heard about yet, including the final results of the forensics tests. They are taking their time and making sure they've covered all the bases before they formally charge Casey with murder. After all, Casey isn't going anywhere.

JMO

[st777jo]

I had no cooperation either, I went door to door, person to person, and tip to tip MYSELF personally. LE went, and I went to as many as was humanly possible too, even if I was only allowed to sit in a cruiser and wait, I went. I made calls, and looked until I was dropping on my feet.
I was there when she was found. That meant something to me...searching and finding her to lay to rest was the last thing I could do to take care of my Angel.
JMO.

I am so sorry for your loss.

If only one of the Anthony's had a heart, soul, or respect for Caylee.

[WinnieLeigh7]

:biggrin:
I like cash...

Yea, me too, just don't have any....so...again...LOAN??

LOL J/K (well not really) :biggrin:

[Rebel Rouzer]

I haven't read back through all the posts, but the thread is dated 9/18. Did I sleep for two entire days?

It was a typo that hasn't been corrected yet. :seeya:

[OneUp]

<<Snipped>>
Do you see what happened when Cindy actually grew a pair and confronted Casey and probably told her to get a job, and her own place and be a mother?

moo
I do in fact see what happens when a parent waits 22 years to assert some definitive parenting and expect their children to act responsibily. I hope this serves as a warning to other parents who "over-protect" their children from the consequences of their behavior.
It is a truely sad thing that Casey has done, regardless of whether Cindy's ways or other circumstances set her off. Her decisions were tragic for herself and her family, and fatal IMO for Caylee.
JMO.

[Acorn]

Quoting Casey "Absolutely Petrified"

This is the punishment of a liar: he is not believed, even when he speaks the truth.
The Talmud

Perfect wisdom.

[kakax]

is this the right link?
Has she already been thru and released? I'm watching this now.
This one is all men right now. No body in jumpsuits, everyone in street clothes.


Here is her appearance in court...


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7442461&version=1&locale=EN-US

Short and not so sweet.

[MyrDawn]

Good Morning, All! Hope everyone is having a good day!

ITA, MD! How can any jury not find her guilty of child neglect? Her child has not been seen for 3 months and she can't provide a reasonable explanation for that other than the non-existant Zanny the Nanny. Pleeeease! I agree she will be going to prison for more than one of the pending charges. JMHO.

Good mornin' Rose. :seeya:

I didn't mean to imply that I thought Casey might be found not guilty of child neglect or any of the other charges. I was just answering a question about how long and under what circumstances the LE could keep her on home confinement.

[Joan Weiss]

Yea, me too, just don't have any....so...again...LOAN??

LOL J/K (well not really) :biggrin:Well, he may do anything for "His girl..." $100 is chump change for a "high profile" atty, don't you think? ;)

imo

[WinnieLeigh7]

I am still bugged about what ID Casey used in Target to write a check- her own DL? Or Amys ID? I would think Amy would have her photo ID on her since she was out of the country @ the time of Caseys thievery.

And someone please tell me, did Casey buy a bunch of tickets to PR with her moms CC, including Amys trip? tia

I very rarely get carded when I write a check...my DL # is own my check...

usually the most I get is "Is this still you're correct information"

Which my phone # isn't, and I usually write the correct one on it...
maybe they assume that because I do that, I'm not "hiding" anything

:shrug:

You also have these places that will run a check through just as if you swiped a debit card, you don't even have to fill out the check....

[rosejustrose]

I had no cooperation either, I went door to door, person to person, and tip to tip MYSELF personally. LE went, and I went to as many as was humanly possible too, even if I was only allowed to sit in a cruiser and wait, I went. I made calls, and looked until I was dropping on my feet.
I was there when she was found. That meant something to me...searching and finding her to lay to rest was the last thing I could do to take care of my Angel.
JMO.

I'm so sorry for your lose, OU:rose:

[ruth66]

JMO That would depend on what happens at her trial for the neglect charges. If she's found guilty, she'll be sentenced and sent to prison. If she's found not guilty, I would imagine she'd stay on home confinement until the trials for the other charges.

If she's found not guilty of all the charges against her at her trials, she'd be free as a bird until if and when she's charged with something else, such as murder.

IMO, she'll be going to prison for more than one of the existing charges!

question....I would think that if her child has not shown up alive and well by the time the neglect charges get to court, wouldn't that be enough to prove "neglect"? I am confused, without proof that she was kidnapped coupled with the fact that she (Caylee) has not reunited with her family, how do you not find her guilty?

Anyone know?

[anyonesguess]

ok, a woman in a blue jumpsuit (not Casey) is up next. Am I watching the right thing?

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/news/live_broadcast.shtml

Lauriann,

The hearing is over for her. She was first I believe.

[Joan Weiss]

I had no cooperation either, I went door to door, person to person, and tip to tip MYSELF personally. LE went, and I went to as many as was humanly possible too, even if I was only allowed to sit in a cruiser and wait, I went. I made calls, and looked until I was dropping on my feet.
I was there when she was found. That meant something to me...searching and finding her to lay to rest was the last thing I could do to take care of my Angel.
JMO.:rose::rose::rose:

[Rebel Rouzer]

According to this link, they are going to search for Caylee. That can encompass a lot of talking, to whomever...


http://www.local6.com/news/17483396/detail.html

It said they were going there looking for clues and talking to witnesses. Me thinks they might be going to talk to not only Pdilla but the Marine dude. I bethca. I betcha. :D

[WinnieLeigh7]

Yep, and they are doing that.


Within all stories and lies, somewhere the truth can be found...

[rosejustrose]

ITA. They have all their ducks; they are going to line them up nicely and sew it all up, air tight. imo

I think Cindy is riled because LE is not sharing with her. imo

I agree. Why in the world would Cindy think that LE would share anything with her? She's been as big a hinderance to the investigation as anyone else, IMO.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Think I just quoted the wrong entry...OMGosh, maybe I need to come back after coffee sets in...

[Margo555]

Welcome Margo!:seeya:

Thanks Barefooted, it's nice to be here. :seeya: I can't wait for Casey to be hauled off to jail for good!! It's getting tiresome to see her bonded out time and again. Let's get this show on the road. There's a baby missing and she is responsible! MOO

[WinnieLeigh7]

Joan, is it a search, or is it to talk to Padilla, because if they have evidence of a dead Caylee, why are they going to Cali, do they think Casey sent the body via fed ex or something, because I dont recall Casey being in Cali, or have I missed something?

:rose:

Here's the one I meant to quote

[summer4meplz]

Joan, is it a search, or is it to talk to Padilla, because if they have evidence of a dead Caylee, why are they going to Cali, do they think Casey sent the body via fed ex or something, because I dont recall Casey being in Cali, or have I missed something?

:rose:

Good morning everyone...

Besides bh and Mark Hawkins, I just thought of another CA connection...remember Reasonable? She lives in CA...might not be anything but we haven't heard back from her? just a thought...

[FeelinFroggy617]

It said they were going there looking for clues and talking to witnesses. Me thinks they might be going to talk to not only Pdilla but the Marine dude. I bethca. I betcha. :D


I'm not familiar with the Marine story.... can you fill me in please? TIA

[Laurieann]

Here is her appearance in court...


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7442461&version=1&locale=EN-US

Short and not so sweet.

Thank you kakax. I was beginning to think I was invivible or something :)
well I guess I didn't miss much. That suxed more than the last one didn't it?

[barskin&co.]

question....I would think that if her child has not shown up alive and well by the time the neglect charges get to court, wouldn't that be enough to prove "neglect"? I am confused, without proof that she was kidnapped coupled with the fact that she (Caylee) has not reunited with her family, how do you not find her guilty?

Anyone know?
The fact that Casey had Caylee one day, then didn't have her the next combined withthe fact that she didn't report her missing for a month is enought to convict her of neglect, IMO. If Caylee had legitimately been kidnapped, and Casey did what she did (partied, told no one), that's a conviction.

[Regina.Lampert]

I believe that after the Universal interview of casey anthony LE was very, very concerned over possibly having another Melinda Duckett type situation on their hands. Let's face it the cops knew at that point they were dealing with a psychopath and that fact prompted her immediate arrest, along with the fact of failing to report her daughter missing for a month and then lying thru her teeth to police.

There is absolutely no rush to charge murder yet, they have her on the other charges and she isn't going anywhere. In the mean time they can investigate and build a solid case on the other charges that surely are coming.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I definitely agree. I believe the LE has more evidence we haven't heard about yet, including the final results of the forensics tests. They are taking their time and making sure they've covered all the bases before they formally charge Casey with murder. After all, Casey isn't going anywhere.

JMO

I think it was CommonGuy that posted a link yesterday (although dated Aug. 31st, which confused me), which stated that the LE confirmed that it was Caylee in the trunk of the car and this confirmation came from the hair samples, not the stain....

:confused:

[desmom]

If you go back to the phone calls between Cindy and Casey, Cindy tells her, you're in jail because you lied to police.

At that point, IMO, Cindy believed LE, and their decision to arrest Casey.

Something changed afterwards.

Cindy choses to ignore the basics. Casey had no job. The nanny doesn't exist, and the apartment Casey alledges to have dropped Caylee of at is, and has been, vacant.

Yep and don't forget George "stressed his concern that his daughter is holding back information. He and his wife (the defendant's mother) fear something may have happened to Caylee." (Page 3 of the 400 + released documents) jmo