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Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 01:51 PM
I agree to an extent. This repeated arresting and re-arresting for various crimes while the investigation is going on on the murder case seems to be a bit vindictive. I have this suspicion that they are going to try to get her on enough other charges that they'll offer concurrent sentences along with a confession of criminally negligent homicide.
That's what I think is going on, and why I think her lawyer wants them to poop or get off the pot. I get the feeling that they've made a few blunders in this case regarding supposed evidence that they said they had, and now they're trying to end run the death and requisite investigation around the check kiting scheme.I disagree. I recall a TH saying this is a tactic employed to wear the suspect down. They want to find Caylee, and any tactics they can employ, I say good for them. imo
rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 01:51 PM
I bet she's loving every second of this.
Oh, for sure! How many of her "friends" can say they're famous? She probably thinks they're all pea green with envy especially since Casey has two big bodyguards and a high powered dense attorney protecting her all too important self. Note to self, make an extra batch of brownies to say - hey, thanks guys! Swoon, swoon,.....gag, gag!
jammies
09-16-2008, 01:51 PM
Yep.
All three of them had the same wrong date.
Cover up. Plain as day.
IMO.
Thankyou for posting that.
Since when has CASEY ever changed the date? In her LE interviews she says the 9th.
They got their story straight then backtracked when they were PROVED wrong.
Odd how the very last time Cindy had Caylee she completely forgot. :(
True2Blues
09-16-2008, 01:52 PM
That explains the cover up.
If only they felt as strongy about Caylee as they do about Casey. :shrug:
IMO.
It's amazing how quickly they wrote that innocent child off and focused on her mother.
tiny paw-prints
09-16-2008, 01:52 PM
Can you believe this new theory some have come up with?
No comment.
Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 01:52 PM
Really! If it was my granddaughter who was missing, the last time I saw her would be forever burned into my brain!{nodding head, here} :(
commonguymd
09-16-2008, 01:52 PM
I'm not so sure about that. George is the one who pointed out the disturbed dirt to LE, and told them he thought Casey wasn't being forthcoming. imo
That is absolutely true, but that doesn't mean that he pre-empted their find and relate the fact that they already raided the backyard in their own search. They came back and said they moved an hibiscus tree.
Nevertheless, I think the prudent thing would have been to cadaver dog every vehicle.
SavannahStar
09-16-2008, 01:52 PM
Praise the Lord! I guess those Rosary Beads worked for her:rolleyes:
Oh!!!!!!! Speaking of rosary beads....just saw this today (if it's already been posted, sorry). A high school girl was denied the right to WEAR her rosary beads at school because the school claims it is a gang symbol. Point BEING....apparently for some, wearing rosary beads around the neck is common:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423143,00.html
A Texas teen claims she is forbidden from wearing a rosary around her neck in school because the Catholic prayer beads are a gang symbol, MyFOXDFW.com reported.
Tabitha Ruiz was stopped by security guards at Seagoville High School in Dallas last week and told to take off the silver and ruby beaded rosary, a gift from her mother. On Monday, the same thing happened when she again came to the school wearing the beads.
rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 01:53 PM
I agree with your first sentence, but i do not agree that he didn't tell Casey.
Maybe he just didn't tell Casey where he dumped Caylee but she would have to know he found the body, if, in fact, Caylee was in the trunk when she abandoned the car. I had never thought that she was, IMO.
Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 01:53 PM
Thankyou for posting that.
Since when has CASEY ever changed the date? In her LE interviews she says the 9th.
They got their story straight then backtracked when they were PROVED wrong.
Odd how the very last time Cindy had Caylee she completely forgot. :(Thus the "31 days" comment. imo
Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 01:54 PM
[QUOTE=spiritwolf46;12128731]Good afternoon from Hurricane ridden Ohio!!! :seeya:
We are on a generator, for power is out throughout Ohio and will be for a long time, but wanted to check in to see what may be going on.
I know that Princess was rearrested, but do not know if she is out yet again!
Please help me with anything new, for I only have a limited time online before we have to shut down and reserve gas for the generator!
I have miss you all!
TIA!
so glad you are okay, hope your power is on soon! She is out now, home with Mommy, LE is heading to CA to interview Lenny and others.:seeya:
penguinlady
09-16-2008, 01:54 PM
It's amazing how quickly they wrote that innocent child off and focused on her mother.
Heartbreaking actually :rose:
K
anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 01:54 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/17486682/index.html
Is JB holding Casey's hand? OR am i seeing things?
Yes, he is holding "My girls" hand.
jammies
09-16-2008, 01:54 PM
Really! If it was my granddaughter who was missing, the last time I saw her would be forever burned into my brain!
Exactly. She was like her own daughter.....how could it slip her mind???
IMO, it didn't. Why the 9th, though?
I can't figure out why they ALL seemed to WANT to make it that specific day??
msjoni
09-16-2008, 01:54 PM
All of them? The same date?
I have a problem with this too....What are your theories about it?
redcard
09-16-2008, 01:54 PM
I disagree. I recall a TH saying this is a tactic employed to wear the suspect down. They want to find Caylee, and any tactics they can employ, I say good for them. imo
This isn't going to wear her down, though. Why should she cop to what could have been an accidental death when she's facing more jailtime for theft now?
There's no evidence that this girl is dead that is not circumstantial. Why should she talk when they've got the goods on her?
Trust me, they're going to let her either cop to the thefts and mention the death as an aside, or they're going to let her cop to an accidental death and make the thefts go away.
Either one, they don't have enough to make the death of caylee stick without a confession, and the confession will control the level of punishment. Meaning, it's in her hands.
They're not wearing her down, they're cashing in and walking away.
101Spots
09-16-2008, 01:55 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/17486682/index.html
Is JB holding Casey's hand? OR am i seeing things?
Yes, he is. Cozy, huh?
MyrDawn
09-16-2008, 01:55 PM
Since I'm the one who brought it up let me correct you. I'm not saying they will use it. I said IF they use it.
It was AustinsMama that brought it up. I was responding to her question in my post number #671.
I said "He can't get discovery for a charge that hasn't been filed." because I believe they'll file a murder charge and that forensic evidence will be used for that.
Like I said, it's a matter of personal opinion as to when they plan on using that evidence...the neglect trial or for a murder case.
Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 01:55 PM
Oh!!!!!!! Speaking of rosary beads....just saw this today (if it's already been posted, sorry). A high school girl was denied the right to WEAR her rosary beads at school because the school claims it is a gang symbol. Point BEING....apparently for some, wearing rosary beads around the neck is common:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,423143,00.html
A Texas teen claims she is forbidden from wearing a rosary around her neck in school because the Catholic prayer beads are a gang symbol, MyFOXDFW.com reported.
Tabitha Ruiz was stopped by security guards at Seagoville High School in Dallas last week and told to take off the silver and ruby beaded rosary, a gift from her mother. On Monday, the same thing happened when she again came to the school wearing the beads.Geeze, the knotted t-shirt, the rosary beads... Casey is stylin'. How many mothers of missing children are thinking about that? Reminds me of Susan Smith, with her hair bows. imo
kakax
09-16-2008, 01:56 PM
Good afternoon from Hurricane ridden Ohio!!! :seeya:
We are on a generator, for power is out throughout Ohio and will be for a long time, but wanted to check in to see what may be going on.
I know that Princess was rearrested, but do not know if she is out yet again!
Please help me with anything new, for I only have a limited time online before we have to shut down and reserve gas for the generator!
I have miss you all!
TIA!
:rose: For Caylee
We were wondering where you were this morning!! Good to see you are ok. She has been bailed out and is currently at home probably taking a shower. Baez had a press conference about the freedoms of our country. LE is on their way out to California to talk to either the BH or Mark Hopkins or both (not sure why they are going).
margaritaville
09-16-2008, 01:57 PM
...The Bodyguards are just over the top to me..scheech !!! She should not be made to appear like a celebrity...mannn all she needs now is a headset-mic and a Frappuccino!(jmo)
Oh not a head set how could she wear her tiara then?
barskin&co.
09-16-2008, 01:57 PM
Seeing as the Zanaida Casey refers to is mythical... it's a moot point how old this mythical person is.
IMO.
Yes, let's remember that people.
SavannahStar
09-16-2008, 01:57 PM
Geeze, the knotted t-shirt, the rosary beads... Casey is stylin'. How many mothers of missing children are thinking about that? Reminds me of Susan Smith, with her hair bows. imo
That wasn't the point of that post and you know it. :)
Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 01:57 PM
This isn't going to wear her down, though. Why should she cop to what could have been an accidental death when she's facing more jailtime for theft now?
There's no evidence that this girl is dead that is not circumstantial. Why should she talk when they've got the goods on her?
Trust me, they're going to let her either cop to the thefts and mention the death as an aside, or they're going to let her cop to an accidental death and make the thefts go away.
Either one, they don't have enough to make the death of caylee stick without a confession, and the confession will control the level of punishment. Meaning, it's in her hands.
They're not wearing her down, they're cashing in and walking away.Respectfully, none of us knows what evidence they have. They've been very careful in their statements. I think they are trying to avoid the "rush to judgment" accusations. imo
:shrug:
True2Blues
09-16-2008, 01:57 PM
Yes, he is holding "My girls" hand.
He needs to back off of "His Girl". He's too touchy feely with a client. Especially one who has shown herself to be available to many men.
spiritwolf46
09-16-2008, 01:57 PM
so glad you are okay, hope your power is on soon! She is out now, home with Mommy, LE is heading to CA to interview Lenny and others.:seeya:[/QUOTE]
Thank you SO much!!!! Yard was a disaster, but sure could have been worse! Thank you for the well wishes and the update!
Hmmmm....interesting that LE are going to interview Lenny and all! Wonder what kind of help he could be? Hasn't he changed stories like most of us change underwear?
This should be interesting, indeed!
day2day
09-16-2008, 01:58 PM
Good afternoon from Hurricane ridden Ohio!!! :seeya:
We are on a generator, for power is out throughout Ohio and will be for a long time, but wanted to check in to see what may be going on.
I know that Princess was rearrested, but do not know if she is out yet again!
Please help me with anything new, for I only have a limited time online before we have to shut down and reserve gas for the generator!
I have miss you all!
TIA!
:rose: For Caylee
Spirit (hugsss)
The princess is out..and detectives are flying out west to conduct some interviews.
I hope you get power back soon. PM me if i can help!!
MyrDawn
09-16-2008, 01:58 PM
If the test results proved Caylee was dead in the trunk of the car they don't need a body to charge her with murder. Convictions have been won without bodies in Florida in the past.
I daresay they have been won without a body in every state, probably. But, they always prefer to have a body because it's much easier to convince a jury. Forensics don't always play well with a jury. Remember OJ's murder trial?
Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 01:58 PM
That wasn't the point of that post and you know it. :)No, it was my impression of the info. :shrug:
OneUp
09-16-2008, 01:59 PM
I'm not so sure. What would they specifically charge them with? Their stories have changed, but did they actually lie to the LE...or just to the media?Myr? do you know what the charge would be for a mandated reporter of abuse who didn't report in Florida? Here, you would not hardly ever see someone charged with failure to protect, but it has happened in cases that ended in death OR when the mandated reporter is also involved in shielding the offender from the consequences of the crime or in soe other way and acessory to the crime. Like a Mother who doesn't report her thieving daughter, but instead hushes the crime up by paying off the record restitution herself, for example.:D
I'm not saying anyone should or should not be charged...that's not for me to decide. I would like to know what the potential is if the State sees fit to charge.
If Cindy might face such a thing, it would def. help if she was prepared...maybe this is one reason Nejame was retained?
JMO.
Thanks to anyone with an answer!
day2day
09-16-2008, 02:00 PM
Yes, he is holding "My girls" hand.
If I was his wife-he would be introduced to the curb...fast!
jmo
BRB i have to go throw up :(
rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 02:00 PM
<snip> But today is Caylee's day for me.
:rose: Isn't it nice and quiet here Caylee? I like the peace and all of the love I'm seeing shown for you. So many people setting their differences aside and trying to focus their thoughts today on you and on that which helps to find you.
JMO.
Beautifully said, OneUp:rose:
RIP Caylee Angel :rose:
happy2bme
09-16-2008, 02:00 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html)
The judge also ordered Anthony Tuesday to have no contact with the victim, Amy Huizenga.
Wonder if she had been trying to contact Amy...
Rebel Rouzer
09-16-2008, 02:01 PM
Seeing as the Zanaida Casey refers to is mythical... it's a moot point how old this mythical person is.
IMO.
Yep Yep I agree
redcard
09-16-2008, 02:01 PM
Respectfully, none of us knows what evidence they have. They've been very careful in their statements. I think they are trying to avoid the "rush to judgment" accusations. imo
:shrug:
They've been anything BUT careful in their statements.
We've heard of chloroform, dead bodies resting in trunks, repeatedly we've seen law enforcement come sources come out of there like there's no such thing as privacy laws or respect for investigations.
We've heard rumors of where she's lied and how she's lied, and a million and one pieces of supposed evidence have been leaked against her.
Now that it's showing that there's not been the arrests that mirror the supposed evidence, people are beginning to wonder what evidence does exist, but to say they've been careful? The law enforcement in this case is leakier than a seive.. which makes me wonder how much Nancy Grace's producers are paying her sources.
Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 02:01 PM
Well, I got through Caylee's morning without altercations. I think I"ll cut my losses now...
See ya all later at the protest. I'll bring the ciggies and the jack. :seeya:
Caylee, we love you. :rose:
spiritwolf46
09-16-2008, 02:01 PM
We were wondering where you were this morning!! Good to see you are ok. She has been bailed out and is currently at home probably taking a shower. Baez had a press conference about the freedoms of our country. LE is on their way out to California to talk to either the BH or Mark Hopkins or both (not sure why they are going).
Thanks so much! This is literally KILLING me not being on with you all! I truly have missed my second family! LOL
Thanks for the info. Makes ya wonder, doesn't it?
Well, better get off here. We have to shut down. Power will not be restored for another 5 to 7 days in our area! UGH! Who would have thought that Ohio would have been hit with category 1 hurricane force winds? SHEEESH!
I pray that our other Ohio people and neighboring states are okay as well.
Love to you all! See ya soon!
:rose:
margaret kep
09-16-2008, 02:02 PM
Ah..... I didn't even look at that one. I just assumed that she was around Casey's age. Also, I thought Casey said that Zanny didn't have any kids? :shrug:
I think the one born around 1970 would be kinda old to be frequenting Fusion nite club.:biggrin:
MyrDawn
09-16-2008, 02:02 PM
Myr? do you know what the charge would be for a mandated reporter of abuse who didn't report in Florida? Here, you would not hardly ever see someone charged with failure to protect, but it has happened in cases that ended in death OR when the mandated reporter is also involved in shielding the offender from the consequences of the crime or in soe other way and acessory to the crime. Like a Mother who doesn't report her thieving daughter, but instead hushes the crime up by paying off the record restitution herself, for example.:D
I'm not saying anyone should or should not be charged...that's not for me to decide. I would like to know what the potential is if the State sees fit to charge.
If Cindy might face such a thing, it would def. help if she was prepared...maybe this is one reason Nejame was retained?
JMO.
Thanks to anyone with an answer!
I'm afraid I have no idea what the charge would be in Florida. But, I think Cindy did report Caylee's disappearance as soon as she found out Casey didn't know where she was. The 3rd 911 call. It would be hard to prove otherwise, IMO.
rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 02:02 PM
And Casey may be a monster and whatnot, but she is Cindys daughter. Do people just automatically stop loving their own child when something like this happens? Casey is more than likely going to spend the rest of her life in jail, I dont blame Cindy on some level if she wants to spend some time with her until she never can again in a normal setting. Hopefully Caseys incarceration will lead to closure and healing for the Anthonys. moo
IMO, finding Caylee and providing her with a respected and peaceful resting place will be the only thing that will bring closure and start the healing process for the Anthonys. JMO.
commonguymd
09-16-2008, 02:03 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html)
The judge also ordered Anthony Tuesday to have no contact with the victim, Amy Huizenga.
Wonder if she had been trying to contact Amy...
From what I have seen this family is trying to interfere with potential witnesses so this would not surprise me for one minute. They might have tried to pay her off with their new found wealth. They also went to the tow truck impound lot and attempted to get him to change his story.
Meanwhile they scour the web looking to shut down websites.
Busy family I guess, because in the interim they are supposed to be looking high and low, knocking on every door, looking for Caylee.
Caylee doesn't exist anymore. She is history in their eyes. It is all a game to them now, and perhaps a financial windfall. Dollars does funny things.
Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 02:03 PM
so glad you are okay, hope your power is on soon! She is out now, home with Mommy, LE is heading to CA to interview Lenny and others.:seeya:
Thank you SO much!!!! Yard was a disaster, but sure could have been worse! Thank you for the well wishes and the update!
Hmmmm....interesting that LE are going to interview Lenny and all! Wonder what kind of help he could be? Hasn't he changed stories like most of us change underwear?
This should be interesting, indeed![/QUOTE]:seeya: some of us are thinking maybe Lenny had the house bugged and may be telling all.
rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 02:04 PM
Sorry.... Caseys biggest problem is that she can't tell the truth. I disagree with you. No matter what her relationship with Cindy, the girl doesn't have an honest bone in her body. If she's not lying, she's stealing. JMO
or screwing any Tom, Dick or Harry who happens to be handy, IMO.
SavannahStar
09-16-2008, 02:04 PM
No, it was my impression of the info. :shrug:
I think it rather blew the theory away that no one wears rosaries around their neck. But okay.......that went over your head maybe. I thought it was rather a coinky-dink that I saw that article today after all the discussion about that rosary yesterday. Life is funny sometimes.
redcard
09-16-2008, 02:04 PM
I daresay they have been won without a body in every state, probably. But, they always prefer to have a body because it's much easier to convince a jury. Forensics don't always play well with a jury. Remember OJ's murder trial?
When you get a DNA expert to rework their numbers on the stand and open up a wide swath of the city to the potential of being a suspect.. and when you get evidence that was deliberately placed.. and you get a cop who's a racist.. you're going to call into doubt the forensics.
Personally, I don't think the forensics here say what was leaked to the press. I don't believe in the chloroform in the trunk, I do not believe they can say there was a body in the trunk, and I believe that information was given out in the hopes that Casey would slip up and provide a detail that could lead to her confession.
DELANEY
09-16-2008, 02:05 PM
They did, indeed. And I believe they were able to call it not only because they're experienced detectives, but also because the monster was sitting right in front of them. They called it exactly as they saw it. imo.
I know everyone is busy posting mostly about the court appearance, release, etc. but I hope someone can answer my question. After reading many posts and listening to the police interviews, does anyone have a recollection of what Casey has told the truth about, if anything? So far, I haven't been able to come across anything. But, surely she has told the truth about something????
Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 02:06 PM
If I was his wife-he would be introduced to the curb...fast!
jmo
BRB i have to go throw up :(
I so agree! Here is a cold towel for your face and some water.:)
anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 02:06 PM
I have a problem with this too....What are your theories about it?
The only thing I can think of and this is stretching it, was that before the police got there Cindy was flipping out, and yelling and said I haven't seen Caylee since Fathers Day June 8th, so that is the date they just all thought was FD. :shrug:
need2no
09-16-2008, 02:06 PM
Exactly. She was like her own daughter.....how could it slip her mind???
IMO, it didn't. Why the 9th, though?
I can't figure out why they ALL seemed to WANT to make it that specific day??
Me either...but I am completely convinced there is a reason for it, and I DON'T believe for a second the reason is they were confused and simply mistaken on the date.
Pebbles
09-16-2008, 02:06 PM
Originally Posted by margaritaville
Great question!
I would love to ask them why the family is not and never has searched for Caylee...Not once! GA drove his sign around...CA went on talk shows.......That was it... We are all suppose to be looking for her according to CA we should get off our AZZ'S and find Caylee, but they never, ever even look!! So sad!!
It breaks my heart to think not one of them care enough to look for her......... for caylee
Last night on the ten o'clock news. WFTV, channel 27, Orlando, they said that there was a sighting of Caylee in Orange County, Florida. They then showed a video of Cindy at Goodwill on Orange Blossom Trail in Orlando. The news reported that Cindy was asking employees about security cameras.
While I was watching the report, I kept thinking that Cindy called the media told them there was a sighting of Caylee at Goodwill and she was going there to search. :shrug:
I guess now Cindy can say she was searching for Caylee! I guess Cindy didn't mind that the "maggots" were there!
True2Blues
09-16-2008, 02:07 PM
They should never have to lean on wearing her down if they had credible evidence of Caylee's death. Evidence would trump that.......if they had it.
I believe that they want to recover the body. Not just for the case, but because it's an innocent child.
They are still actively investigating the case, it doesn't seem that they are ready to file yet.
There are other charges on Casey and there's no reason they should be put on hold. She's no different than any other criminal. Charges are made, she's arrested, arraigned and given the opportunity to post bond.
Rebel Rouzer
09-16-2008, 02:07 PM
Well, I got through Caylee's morning without altercations. I think I"ll cut my losses now...
See ya all later at the protest. I'll bring the ciggies and the jack. :seeya:
Caylee, we love you. :rose:
See ya after while JW. :seeya:
Joan Weiss
09-16-2008, 02:07 PM
I think it rather blew the theory away that no one wears rosaries around their neck. But okay.......that went over your head maybe. I thought it was rather a coinky-dink that I saw that article today after all the discussion about that rosary yesterday. Life is funny sometimes.Are you saying that gang members are devout Catholics, or that those devout Catholics are stylin' with rosaries?
See ya later. Gotta go.
rosejustrose
09-16-2008, 02:07 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/17486682/index.html
Is JB holding Casey's hand? OR am i seeing things?
OMG, that brings a new definition to attorney/client privledge. I guess it must be the same privledge as Event Planner/client. JMO.
jammies
09-16-2008, 02:08 PM
Me either...but I am completely convinced there is a reason for it, and I DON'T believe for a second the reason is they were confused and simply mistaken on the date.
We need some theories about this date. hmmmmm
101Spots
09-16-2008, 02:08 PM
I know everyone is busy posting mostly about the court appearance, release, etc. but I hope someone can answer my question. After reading many posts and listening to the police interviews, does anyone have a recollection of what Casey has told the truth about, if anything? So far, I haven't been able to come across anything. But, surely she has told the truth about something????
Just a guess: "My name is Casey Marie Anthony." Only thing that comes to mind..........
commonguymd
09-16-2008, 02:08 PM
I know everyone is busy posting mostly about the court appearance, release, etc. but I hope someone can answer my question. After reading many posts and listening to the police interviews, does anyone have a recollection of what Casey has told the truth about, if anything? So far, I haven't been able to come across anything. But, surely she has told the truth about something????
She did give her name correctly, and date of birth if I remember correctly. She also admitted that Caylee was her daughter and that Cindy was her mother. Other than that, how would one know?
Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 02:08 PM
[QUOTE=spiritwolf46;12128823]Thanks so much! This is literally KILLING me not being on with you all! I truly have missed my second family! LOL
Thanks for the info. Makes ya wonder, doesn't it?
Well, better get off here. We have to shut down. Power will not be restored for another 5 to 7 days in our area! UGH! Who would have thought that Ohio would have been hit with category 1 hurricane force winds? SHEEESH!
I pray that our other Ohio people and neighboring states are okay as well.
Love to you all! See ya soon!
Take care Spirit, hope you are back soon.:seeya:
Margo555
09-16-2008, 02:08 PM
If I was his wife-he would be introduced to the curb...fast!
jmo
BRB i have to go throw up :(
If he were mine, he would be walking very gingerly and his afternoons would be spent at home. :D JMHO
anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 02:09 PM
He needs to back off of "His Girl". He's too touchy feely with a client. Especially one who has shown herself to be available to many men.
ITA. He is not maintaining a decorum of professionalism imo. Could end up biting him in the arse imo.
SavannahStar
09-16-2008, 02:09 PM
Cindy lied under oath at the bond hearing that she knew the non-existant Zanny the Nanny. Need I say more?
In order to prove that was a lie, the prosecution would first have to PROVE that Casey never knew any ZG, ever. And that a ZG never babysat for Caylee. I think that would be difficult to prove BARD simply because it is impossible to prove a negative.
The prosecution is not going to bother with small potatoes like that, when (IF) they have a murder charge against Casey.
StickyBeak
09-16-2008, 02:09 PM
so glad you are okay, hope your power is on soon! She is out now, home with Mommy, LE is heading to CA to interview Lenny and others.:seeya:
Thank you SO much!!!! Yard was a disaster, but sure could have been worse! Thank you for the well wishes and the update!
Hmmmm....interesting that LE are going to interview Lenny and all! Wonder what kind of help he could be? Hasn't he changed stories like most of us change underwear?
This should be interesting, indeed![/QUOTE]
Seems to me, good Ole' Lenny has been leaking info convientely to NG, needs to keep up his World Famous status. Well, be a kick if OCSO is on their way to arrest him for witholding information. Can't think why they could not just use AT&T or Sprint. JMO
Casey's news has hit front page in Lee County florida New-press now. Wonder if the Famous Media NeJames is making sure the jury pool is tainted. Saw the post on WS about Cindy looking to sue anyone speaking obsenities about their family, unreal.
summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 02:09 PM
IIRC, Cindy June 7, George June 8, Casey June 9.
George said June 6 iirc
Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 02:10 PM
From what I have seen this family is trying to interfere with potential witnesses so this would not surprise me for one minute. They might have tried to pay her off with their new found wealth. They also went to the tow truck impound lot and attempted to get him to change his story.
Meanwhile they scour the web looking to shut down websites.
Busy family I guess, because in the interim they are supposed to be looking high and low, knocking on every door, looking for Caylee.
Caylee doesn't exist anymore. She is history in their eyes. It is all a game to them now, and perhaps a financial windfall. Dollars does funny things.
{nodding head}
happy2bme
09-16-2008, 02:10 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html (http://www.wesh.com/news/17482537/detail.html)
The judge also ordered Anthony Tuesday to have no contact with the victim, Amy Huizenga.
Wonder if she had been trying to contact Amy...
Also from the link above:
Meanwhile, a judge has denied a request made by the Homeowner's Association of the Anthonys' East Orange County neighborhood to set limitations for protesters and supporters outside the home.
The injunction called for protesters and supporters to voice their opinions about the case from a vacant lot down the street.
MyrDawn
09-16-2008, 02:11 PM
Cindy lied under oath at the bond hearing that she knew the non-existant Zanny the Nanny. Need I say more?
I didn't listen to the bond hearing. If she said under oath that she knew Zanny, and didn't know her, that would be perjury.
JMO
commonguymd
09-16-2008, 02:11 PM
I believe that they want to recover the body. Not just for the case, but because it's an innocent child.
They are still actively investigating the case, it doesn't seem that they are ready to file yet.
There are other charges on Casey and there's no reason they should be put on hold. She's no different than any other criminal. Charges are made, she's arrested, arraigned and given the opportunity to post bond.
I get the feeling it is kind of personal with LE now and I don't for one minute blame them. She was a natural born k.. err liar and they looked evil in the eye.
redcard
09-16-2008, 02:12 PM
---snipped----
The lies aren't rumors, they are fact. There is no Zanny.
Good luck proving that.
And how do you know she lied to police?
Oh. Right. Someone keeps leaking stuff to NG.
need2no
09-16-2008, 02:12 PM
We need some theories about this date. hmmmmm
I've tossed so many ideas around in my head about this but can't come up with anything that makes sense...
day2day
09-16-2008, 02:12 PM
I so agree! Here is a cold towel for your face and some water.:)
You're a lifesaver. Thanks..i needed that! Pfft...holding hands with her..what is he thinking :(...
jmo
Pebbles
09-16-2008, 02:12 PM
I don't know if this has been posted, and I don't know if I can find the link, but on the news at noon here in Orlando, they stated that LE is going to California to talk to Padilla? :shrug:
I think it was WFTV, channel 9, which is the station I watch the most.
OneUp
09-16-2008, 02:13 PM
Today is my first day visiting the Anthony website. After reading for a while I am wondering if anything Casey has said has ever been proven to be the truth, or has everything that has come out of her mouth been a lie?
Thanks for making a point I find it hard to argue with. I myself would LOVE a link to something Casey has said which is truthful...barring her name and personal ID information!
She is definitely one that if I heard her say it was raining, I'd check outside myself before removing the umbrella from the closet!
JMO.
True2Blues
09-16-2008, 02:13 PM
Originally Posted by margaritaville
Great question!
I would love to ask them why the family is not and never has searched for Caylee...Not once! GA drove his sign around...CA went on talk shows.......That was it... We are all suppose to be looking for her according to CA we should get off our AZZ'S and find Caylee, but they never, ever even look!! So sad!!
It breaks my heart to think not one of them care enough to look for her......... for caylee
Last night on the ten o'clock news. WFTV, channel 27, Orlando, they said that there was a sighting of Caylee in Orange County, Florida. They then showed a video of Cindy at Goodwill on Orange Blossom Trail in Orlando. The news reported that Cindy was asking employees about security cameras.
While I was watching the report, I kept thinking that Cindy called the media told them there was a sighting of Caylee at Goodwill and she was going there to search. :shrug:
I guess now Cindy can say she was searching for Caylee! I guess Cindy didn't mind that the "maggots" were there!
Cindy doesn't mind the press when she feels they are there to make her look good. Or, as in this case, divert attention away from Casey and the investigation.
I want to know about these sightings. Is there any record of any of these phone calls with the police or the FBI? I do not consider Cindy a reliable source. I don't believe a thing she says. Why is she taking the calls at home instead of directing these people to LE? She has yet to show anything to substantiate any of the claims she's made.
I guess she wasn't so convinced that Caylee was in Texas, Mexico or Puert Rico after all.
commonguymd
09-16-2008, 02:14 PM
We need some theories about this date. hmmmmm
I saw it posted here that there was a murder, kidnapping, and rape in Blanchard Park on or within a day of the 9th. A marriage counselor and family problem counselor. Wonder if it was the same one that dealt with Cindy's problem with Casey (if you really want to talk about conspiracy)?
wickedlovely
09-16-2008, 02:14 PM
If CA was aware of all the pictures of KC that keep surfacing....I mean, from a mother's perspective, to see all these pictures surface of your daughter in all these suggestive poses, costumes, etc.......I wonder what she thinks of her daughter........MOO
SavannahStar
09-16-2008, 02:15 PM
Are you saying that gang members are devout Catholics, or that those devout Catholics are stylin' with rosaries?
Neither. All the article shows is an example of a person who wears a rosary around her neck. So it's not unheard of, like was implicated yesterday.
Lilly12
09-16-2008, 02:15 PM
"Unless they are going to take her out back and beat her behind my back, we are not going to get intimidated," he said.
Hmm....ohmylord. NO they won't do that...don't make suggesions JB!
jmo
Appears they got the right lawyer for this bunch. Birds of a feather, comes to mind. moo
day2day
09-16-2008, 02:15 PM
IIRC, Cindy June 7, George June 8, Casey June 9.
Sorry i missed your post tiny. I stand corrected. BUT none of them knew the last day they saw little Caylee?! I still am not buying it. I think their plan failed them-right then.
jmo
MyrDawn
09-16-2008, 02:15 PM
IIRC she never said she knew Zanny. She said they had known the name Zanny and it had been part of Caylee's vocabulary. I'm pretty sure she said she'd never met Zanny.
That's what I read, too, but like I said, I didn't listen to her testimony at the bond hearing. It would have been silly for her to lie under oath about it.
commonguymd
09-16-2008, 02:15 PM
Also from the link above:
Meanwhile, a judge has denied a request made by the Homeowner's Association of the Anthonys' East Orange County neighborhood to set limitations for protesters and supporters outside the home.
The injunction called for protesters and supporters to voice their opinions about the case from a vacant lot down the street.
Wow that is interesting.
penguinlady
09-16-2008, 02:17 PM
Good luck proving that.
And how do you know she lied to police?
Oh. Right. Someone keeps leaking stuff to NG.
The interview of Casey by the police wasn't "leaked" to NG. In Casey's interview at Universal it is pretty obvious that she lied.
K
FrankieBones1
09-16-2008, 02:17 PM
Hi, folks! It's almost time for a new thread since this one will reach its 1,000 post mark soon. Please come on over when you are ready. Let's make less work for Coldwater.Here is the link:
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12128890#post12128890
Let's keep in mind that this is a day of peace for Caylee Anthony.
:rose:
redcard
09-16-2008, 02:17 PM
Educate yourself on Florida law regarding child neglect and future murder charges. You might learn something.
Just did.. and interesting.
If this was a neglect case or a criminally negligent homicide.. there MIGHT be some limitations coming into play.
MyrDawn
09-16-2008, 02:17 PM
Sorry i missed your post tiny. I stand corrected. BUT none of them knew the last day they saw little Caylee?! I still am not buying it. I think their plan failed them-right then.
jmo
That's one reason I think it was Casey alone that disposed of Caylee. If it was a conspiracy with her parents help, I think they'd have a story down pat to tell the LE, with the same date they saw Caylee last from everyone.
deep*fear
09-16-2008, 02:18 PM
There is no statute of limitations on murder charges.
:beer: I love hearing that!
DELANEY
09-16-2008, 02:18 PM
Just a guess: "My name is Casey Marie Anthony." Only thing that comes to mind..........
OMG!! That's it??? I thought that surely she had told the truth about something.....& I just couldn't come across it. Thanks to everyone who replied....all of you had the same answer so it's evident Casey hasn't told the truth about anything concerning Caylee.
I was in Daytona on vacation when this story broke. For some reason I had the sinking feeling then that Caylee would never be found. It just seemed so odd that her daughter was missing and she was calling from jail to find Tony's phone number. I kept thinking that if this was her boyfriend and they had been dating she should have known his phone number. And, why did she want to talk to him? What about asking if there was any news about her daughter being found? Her lack of concern spoke volumes....she knew where her daughter was.
Margo555
09-16-2008, 02:18 PM
... and then they met the rest of her family.
Have we ever seen another family group this united in lies to get a family member off from murdering another family member other than the Entwistles?
FrankieBones1
09-16-2008, 02:18 PM
There is no statute of limitations on murder charges.
Thank goodness for that!
commonguymd
09-16-2008, 02:19 PM
That's one reason I think it was Casey alone that disposed of Caylee. If it was a conspiracy with her parents help, I think they'd have a story down pat to tell the LE, with the same date they saw Caylee last from everyone.
Either way they were consistent on the week before, obviously forgetting about father's day. I think LE found a camera with pictures and that is how they changed the date.
day2day
09-16-2008, 02:19 PM
Hi all i am 970 posts behind is she out of jail yet? thanks!
She is safe and sound at home. :(....
Detectives going out of state for interviews..AND...
The homeowners assoc. lost-more monsters at the Anthony's! (please leave your littleones at home)
:seeya:
Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 02:19 PM
Yes I think several lawsuits are quite likely.
Against maybe....not in favor of.:rolleyes:
anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 02:19 PM
That is not fact. That is your opinion.
DG, there is no zanny the nanny.
Lilly12
09-16-2008, 02:19 PM
I'd be interested in seeing a picture of him. I don't think Caylee looks anything like Casey.
At one point in time, Cindy said Calylee looked exactly like Casey at that age. Does anyone remember this? moo
happy2bme
09-16-2008, 02:19 PM
That is not fact. That is your opinion.
Most of us have the same opinion who have followed this case from day 1. Very telling that Cindy had never seen Phantom Z when her daughter and grandchild had lived with her all of Caylee's life. Very telling when Casey doesn't have a phone number. Very telling that Phantom Z never was employed at Universal. Very telling because there is NO ZENAIDA.
need2no
09-16-2008, 02:19 PM
Hi all i am 970 posts behind is she out of jail yet? thanks!
Yes and she's home with mommie and daddie.
The judge denied the HOA their request to make protesters go to a vacant lot.
deep*fear
09-16-2008, 02:20 PM
You're a lifesaver. Thanks..i needed that! Pfft...holding hands with her..what is he thinking :(...
jmo
Casey's already taken down one Orlando LEO and has all the wives/gf of the rest of the force asking their dh/bf if they 'know' Casey.
I'm surprised his wife hasn't put a stop to that touchy feely nonsense.
day2day
09-16-2008, 02:20 PM
That's one reason I think it was Casey alone that disposed of Caylee. If it was a conspiracy with her parents help, I think they'd have a story down pat to tell the LE, with the same date they saw Caylee last from everyone.
I am still unsure. I don't think she acted alone. :shrug:
shelbar53
09-16-2008, 02:20 PM
I believe she agrees her name is Casey without being water-boarded. Other than that...
remember her high profile defense attorney baez:D said she wont crack
forensicnut
09-16-2008, 02:21 PM
Good luck proving that.
And how do you know she lied to police?
Oh. Right. Someone keeps leaking stuff to NG.
I'm not completed convinced that the nanny is non-existant either. I agree that Casey lied about where she lived and where she dropped her off, but Cindy herself said that she has heard about Zanny for years.
Also, there are 100's of Zenaida Gonzalez's in Florida alone.
When someone I know first came to the U.S. from Mexico he used his first name, his middle name was his Mother's maiden name and his father's last name. On his Mexican passport, it is written with the hyphen and the two last names are reversed. On his U.S. Social security card, it is written reversed, yet again.
So....Zenaida could really be Zenaida Gonzalez-Fernandez and using one of both last names. I don't think LE looked too hard for her, due to lies and lies and more lies.
I'd like to go back and see if Casey mentioned Zenaida's Mother's name anywhere, or her approx. age.
mattncats
09-16-2008, 02:21 PM
And Casey may be a monster and whatnot, but she is Cindys daughter. Do people just automatically stop loving their own child when something like this happens? Casey is more than likely going to spend the rest of her life in jail, I dont blame Cindy on some level if she wants to spend some time with her until she never can again in a normal setting. Hopefully Caseys incarceration will lead to closure and healing for the Anthonys. moo
Thank you for saying that. I posted similar thing last night and kinda got blasted for it. How can anyone really say how they would react to this kind of situation?
anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 02:21 PM
Yes I think several lawsuits are quite likely.
DG, they would love to profit from this I am sure, but it will not be because Caylee is found alive
MyrDawn
09-16-2008, 02:22 PM
I am still unsure. I don't think she acted alone. :shrug:
If she didn't act alone, I hope the LE can get proof of that and charge anyone involved.
I do think she did act alone, though.
True2Blues
09-16-2008, 02:22 PM
Educate yourself on Florida law regarding child neglect and future murder charges. You might learn something.
He IS Educated. There is no statute of limitations on murder in the state of Florida. He didn't mention child neglect.
redcard
09-16-2008, 02:23 PM
He IS Educated. There is no statute of limitations on murder in the state of Florida. He didn't mention child neglect.
Right.
But guess what?
What if the state can't prove murder? Or Manslaughter?
Failure to report a child missing is neglect, and that has a limitation.
keybored
09-16-2008, 02:23 PM
Great post, oneup. I agree that the Anthonys cannot be handed a free pass because they've lost their granddaughter. I feel sympathy for the pain of their loss, but in many ways, their past behavior led them to this place. And so far, I see no evidence that their current behavior is any different.
:beer:
PS: I wish we had a "thumbs up" emoticon... this one seems too "festive" for this case. :(
FrankieBones1
09-16-2008, 02:23 PM
Hi, folks!
Time to shift over to the Tuesday Afternoon/Early Evening thread. As per Coldwater's request, a new thread is to be started when one reaches 1,000 posts.
Please follow this link as this thread could close at any time.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12128890#post12128890
Respectfully,
Sue
Snoopy50
09-16-2008, 02:24 PM
DG, they would love to profit from this I am sure, but it will not be because Caylee is found alive
thank you for the heads up, somehow I have missed who is banned......:chicken:
bchand
09-16-2008, 02:25 PM
Also from the link above:
Meanwhile, a judge has denied a request made by the Homeowner's Association of the Anthonys' East Orange County neighborhood to set limitations for protesters and supporters outside the home.
The injunction called for protesters and supporters to voice their opinions about the case from a vacant lot down the street.
Also from that link:
Her arrival home Tuesday at about 1:20 p.m. was smooth until the pickup truck Anthony was traveling in was too long to allow for the garage door to close behind it.
I love it.
FrankieBones1
09-16-2008, 02:25 PM
Just a friendly reminder before we move to the afternoon thread.
Ignore is a wonderful feature. :seeya:
Carry on!
Thank you, SayWHAT. Nicely put.
day2day
09-16-2008, 02:27 PM
If she didn't act alone, I hope the LE can get proof of that and charge anyone involved.
I do think she did act alone, though.
You might be right, my friend. I just hope whoever laid their hands on this precious littleone -gets tried and convicted...
msjoni
09-16-2008, 02:27 PM
IIRC, someone posted about an incident at Blanchard Park that weekend -- a mugging or disappearance. Maybe even a murder? Casey was definitely planting some Blanchard Park seeds, so maybe they were hoping to tie the date of some other incident in with Caylee's disappearance, hoping that people would make the leap that Caylee disappeared under Zanny's watch (or theft) at Blanchard Park.
Now, having said all that, this is just one more supposition, without anything factual or a link to back it up. Just something I recall reading in the past week or so.
here's a link to the jogger and someone else mugged..
http://www.local6.com/news/16815956/detail.html
debkay
09-16-2008, 02:28 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/17486682/index.html
Is JB holding Casey's hand? OR am i seeing things?
Yup, isnt that sweet how protective he is of this little girl.
Enough to make me barf
EGirl
09-16-2008, 02:28 PM
Right.
But guess what?
What if the state can't prove murder? Or Manslaughter?
Failure to report a child missing is neglect, and that has a limitation.
Which is why she will be tried in November ont he neglect charges. While she's serving her time LE can continue their investigation
:read:
Magnum357
09-16-2008, 02:29 PM
That is not fact. That is your opinion.
Casey gave the names of two other people who she claimed knew Zanny and used her as a babysitter. When interviewed, these people claimed they did not use her as a sitter and in fact, did not know of her existence.
In order to believe Zanny does exist, you'd have to believe these people lied. What reasonable explanation can you give as to why these people would lie?
Pebbles
09-16-2008, 02:31 PM
Yep.
All three of them had the same wrong date.
Cover up. Plain as day.
IMO.
And all of the Anthonys are in denial about what happened to Caylee. How convenient! :shrug:
deep*fear
09-16-2008, 02:32 PM
At one point in time, Cindy said Calylee looked exactly like Casey at that age. Does anyone remember this? moo
on the stand -iirc the judge interrupted her
True2Blues
09-16-2008, 02:32 PM
Right.
But guess what?
What if the state can't prove murder? Or Manslaughter?
Failure to report a child missing is neglect, and that has a limitation.
If the state can't prove murder or manslaughter they will lose their case. Assuming they get an indictment in the first place.
Child neglect does have a limitation I'm sure. So what? Isn't that the trial scheduled for November?
Pebbles
09-16-2008, 02:34 PM
And Casey may be a monster and whatnot, but she is Cindys daughter. Do people just automatically stop loving their own child when something like this happens? Casey is more than likely going to spend the rest of her life in jail, I dont blame Cindy on some level if she wants to spend some time with her until she never can again in a normal setting. Hopefully Caseys incarceration will lead to closure and healing for the Anthonys. moo
A normal setting? hammer
Lilly12
09-16-2008, 02:35 PM
You hit the nail right on the head. What is Casey thinking? At this point, so much time has gone by, if she was truly frightened about what could happen to Casey if she talked... At this point, she has to realize it would be WORSE if she did not. If her story had any merit, she would be singing like a bird by now.
Her whole story makes no sense whatsoever. Can't CA see that???
Great post. I was thinking the same. moo
deep*fear
09-16-2008, 02:35 PM
Thank you for saying that. I posted similar thing last night and kinda got blasted for it. How can anyone really say how they would react to this kind of situation?
Nobody will blast you today, no matter how far off track you are.
day2day
09-16-2008, 02:36 PM
Yup, isnt that sweet how protective he is of this little girl.
Enough to make me barf
When i went through my divorce..my attorney never ONCE offered to hold my hand. Of course if he tried -i would have broke his arm and that would have been a WHOLE other case. :D
I wonder what it feels like to hold the hand of a girl who "loses" her littleone and forgets about her? I wonder why he isn't begging for the kidnappers to bring her home?...
Caylee...EVEN if your mama has forgot about you-there are SO many people that love you...
:rose:
jmo
OneUp
09-16-2008, 02:37 PM
so glad you are okay, hope your power is on soon! She is out now, home with Mommy, LE is heading to CA to interview Lenny and others.:seeya:
Thank you SO much!!!! Yard was a disaster, but sure could have been worse! Thank you for the well wishes and the update!
Hmmmm....interesting that LE are going to interview Lenny and all! Wonder what kind of help he could be? Hasn't he changed stories like most of us change underwear?
This should be interesting, indeed![/QUOTE]
Glad you are well!
I am interested in hearing whatever comes of this...I'm not sure how much will be factual or relevant...but it should be "a good read"...Lenny is funny to watch, there's not much in this case that gives me a chuckle.
JMO.
redcard
09-16-2008, 02:38 PM
Which is why she will be tried in November ont he neglect charges. While she's serving her time LE can continue their investigation
:read:
But how can you prove neglect without indicating that she's dead?
Don't you see? They're going to lose the neglect case if they can't point to any.
deep*fear
09-16-2008, 02:39 PM
Protesters will just add a few pages to their memoirs for sale - Glad they are back together to do their mani-pedis. Who will play ma in the movie?
Kathy Bates
Yeah, yeah, I'm on my way to the bus!
forensicnut
09-16-2008, 02:42 PM
Someone needs to ask this Zenaida if she has a sister named Samantha. It's weird that she has a person that knows Casey on her myspace friends list. And if her children's names are the same as Casey said? What are the odds?
That's very true. If that's the case, then obviously Zanny is a lie. I'm still 80/20 on her, lol.
OneUp
09-16-2008, 02:44 PM
I'm afraid I have no idea what the charge would be in Florida. But, I think Cindy did report Caylee's disappearance as soon as she found out Casey didn't know where she was. The 3rd 911 call. It would be hard to prove otherwise, IMO.
I know the thread is getting too long...but I wanted to point out that I wan't referring to reporting Caylee missing. I was referring to the theft from the great grandparent's. Sorry that wasn't clear to you! I try to clarify.
JMO.........
anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 02:48 PM
thank you for the heads up, somehow I have missed who is banned......:chicken:
Hi Snoopy,
Nah, that is just my abbreviation for DagGoneit. ;)
farrahrani
09-16-2008, 02:48 PM
That's very true. If that's the case, then obviously Zanny is a lie. I'm still 80/20 on her, lol.
What I find odd about Zanny...and I am sure I am not alone in this, is that Cindy has never spoken to, seen, heard from this woman at any time. Cindy did not have any way of contacting her in the event of an emergency. What if Casey had gotten hurt at work--I know...I know...I'm dodging the lightning bolts as I type this--what if something was preventing Casey from picking up Caylee--OR what if there was an accident at the house, a fire, anything, how would anyone let the babysitter know?
Yet..when Cindy could not get in touch with Casey, she was able to get in touch with Amy, and track her to the apartment? How is it that she was able to speak with Amy, someone who hadn't known Casey all that long, and only knew her through other people, but had no information about a babysitter Casey had used for YEARS according to her?
This just doesn't fit in with Cindy, or with any concerned family that would have a small child living with them.
anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 02:50 PM
She told the truth when she admited she lied:shrug:
ROFLMAO! :lol:
anyonesguess
09-16-2008, 02:52 PM
But how can you prove neglect without indicating that she's dead?
Don't you see? They're going to lose the neglect case if they can't point to any.
She did not report Caylee being missing for at LEAST 31 days. That would be very proveable, and she admitted it to the police herself. If that isn't neglect, then NOTHING is.
farrahrani
09-16-2008, 02:56 PM
She did not report Caylee being missing for at LEAST 31 days. That would be very proveable, and she admitted it to the police herself. If that isn't neglect, then NOTHING is.
ITA. Death doesn't need to be proven. Let's say for a moment Caylee wandered out of the home on her own, and somehow made her way to the secluded airport areas being searched.
Because she is alive and wandering does NOT mean that not reporting it is acceptable. Neglect is neglect. When your child is missing, you report it so they can be safely returned. To let them wander the streets unmonitored, to let them be driven to god knows where by alleged kidnappers, to leave them in the grocery store by accident, it doesn't matter. To not know where your child is for THIRTY PLUS DAYS, and make no effort to report it, is neglect.
Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 02:58 PM
They've been anything BUT careful in their statements.
We've heard of chloroform, dead bodies resting in trunks, repeatedly we've seen law enforcement come sources come out of there like there's no such thing as privacy laws or respect for investigations.
We've heard rumors of where she's lied and how she's lied, and a million and one pieces of supposed evidence have been leaked against her.
Now that it's showing that there's not been the arrests that mirror the supposed evidence, people are beginning to wonder what evidence does exist, but to say they've been careful? The law enforcement in this case is leakier than a seive.. which makes me wonder how much Nancy Grace's producers are paying her sources.
To assist you in understanding this case better, perhaps you should read up on the Sunshine Laws in Florida, which permits LE to release information from an ongoing case subsequent to a request from the media under the FOI act.
anthony has been arrested on charges already and will go to trial in November.
The murder charges will be filed when LE is certain they can prove it BARD in a court of law.
Oh, and BTW casey anthony is a big ole liar, that's a fact. IMO.
Regina.Lampert
09-16-2008, 03:02 PM
But how can you prove neglect without indicating that she's dead?
Don't you see? They're going to lose the neglect case if they can't point to any.
The fact that this defendant cannot say where her child is, is proof of neglect. IMO.
OneUp
09-16-2008, 03:03 PM
But how can you prove neglect without indicating that she's dead?
Don't you see? They're going to lose the neglect case if they can't point to any.IMO, it is neglectful to fail to report that your child has gone missing and that she continued to be missing for over 30 days.
A neglect charge will only create a problem on Homicide charges IF the negelctful act led directly to the death.
If Caylee died at the hands of the imaginary Nanny, or if she died wandering around with no one looking for her as a result of Casey failing to report her disappearance it would be an issue.
As she was murdered by her mother (IMO) and neither of the above is at all true (IMO) Casey may still be charged with murder/negliegent homicide. He failure to report the child missing did not cause her death, in fact it came after it ( if you believe science and not casey's lies and do realize that as unpleasant as it is, Caylee is long dead.)...so the failure to report a missing child did not contribute to Caylees death.
:rose:I hope each morning Caylee that this will be the day you are found and brought to rest in a special place. Until that day may your spirit rest in the hearts of myself and many others.
JMO.
But how can you prove neglect without indicating that she's dead?
Don't you see? They're going to lose the neglect case if they can't point to any.
Not reporting your child missing for 31 days equals neglect. They don't have to prove that she's dead to prove that Casey failed to protect her (by dropping her off at a place that doesn't exist and lying about it as well as not reporting it when she turned up *missing*). The neglect doesn't have to automatically lead to death in order to be proven.
WinnieLeigh7
09-16-2008, 03:13 PM
Gosh-de-dangit...I can't believe people really need me to work and expect me to lose my loop of information here **Shaking head** LOL
So, what all have I missed??
Anything??
WinnieLeigh7
09-16-2008, 03:17 PM
Hi Snoopy,
Nah, that is just my abbreviation for DagGoneit. ;)
Dawg~Goneit???
Went and fetched a bone.....Got 'lost'??
REALLY??
WinnieLeigh7
09-16-2008, 03:18 PM
hello-lo-lo-lo-lo
anyone there-ere-ere-ere
I feel so alone-on-on-on
apparently I'm in the wrong thread-ead-ead-ead :punch:
st777jo
09-16-2008, 03:25 PM
Do we have a working webcam today? TIA
WinnieLeigh7
09-16-2008, 03:33 PM
Shhhh dont look behind you; I can see all the windows you have open NOW!! (cracks that whip) GET BACK TO WORK!!!!!
:D
LOL
But "It's 5 o'clock somewhere"
(you know that song?) LOL
WinnieLeigh7
09-16-2008, 03:34 PM
Quitting time, I just have to pretend a lil' while longer LOL
Katprint
09-16-2008, 03:34 PM
I agree to an extent. This repeated arresting and re-arresting for various crimes while the investigation is going on on the murder case seems to be a bit vindictive. <respectfully snipped>
Basically, any time criminal charges greater than traffic infractions are filed, the defendant has to be brought in and arraigned on those charges. I am not particularly familiar with court protocols in Florida but out here in California, if you are already in jail or serving time in prison when new charges are filed against you then they transfer you to the county courthouse so you can be arraigned on the new charges. If you are not in already in custody then often a warrant will be issued after the charges are filed and you will be taken into custody then arraigned then bailed (or released on your own recognizance if appropriate.) On serious traffic violations (reckless driving, DUI etc.) the arraigning judge will order the defendant to report to the jail to undergo the booking process i.e. photographing, fingerprinting etc. even if they are not going to be taken into custody afterwards.
I represented the Sacramento County Fire Protection District as a deep-pockets defendant in a personal injury lawsuit filed by a plaintiff who had run into the side of an ambulance while the plaintiff was high on meth and heroin. The plaintiff was terribly injured in the crash, and had been "cited and released" at the hospital but then had failed to appear at his scheduled arraignment and had become a fugitive from justice. I set his deposition and notified the Fugitive Bureau of the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department of the date and time, and he was arrested and taken into custody after the deposition was done. He was formally arraigned for the felony DUI charges and released on bail (same as Casey Anthony.) Later, additional unrelated drug charges were filed and he was re-arrested, re-arraigned and re-bailed (again, same as Casey Anthony.) It is really very straightforward.
The only reason that Casey Anthony keeps getting re-arrested and re-arraigned is because she committed so many crimes against so many people. She has only herself to blame.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
crymeariver2006
09-16-2008, 03:46 PM
The fact that this defendant cannot say where her child is, is proof of neglect. IMO.
And offered no help in locating her. As far as the neglect case goes, Caylee's still a missing person last known to be with her mother.
summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 03:48 PM
I'm not completed convinced that the nanny is non-existant either. I agree that Casey lied about where she lived and where she dropped her off, but Cindy herself said that she has heard about Zanny for years.
Also, there are 100's of Zenaida Gonzalez's in Florida alone.
When someone I know first came to the U.S. from Mexico he used his first name, his middle name was his Mother's maiden name and his father's last name. On his Mexican passport, it is written with the hyphen and the two last names are reversed. On his U.S. Social security card, it is written reversed, yet again.
So....Zenaida could really be Zenaida Gonzalez-Fernandez and using one of both last names. I don't think LE looked too hard for her, due to lies and lies and more lies.
I'd like to go back and see if Casey mentioned Zenaida's Mother's name anywhere, or her approx. age.
you've probably had 20 ppl answer you....but just in case not....casey said zenaida's mother's name is gloria
5boxersmom
09-16-2008, 03:48 PM
Hi everyone. :seeya:
Been without electric for 2 days. Major withdrawl.
I saw that Casey was rearrested and bonded out. Did I miss anything else?
summer4meplz
09-16-2008, 03:56 PM
Right, and I have to say if a live Caylee is found, I hope the Anthonys sue the crap out of the Police, seriously. Its like as soon as they saw how delusional Casey was about going so far as to go to Universal to visit her office, which is mind blowing at best, it was just like, hey, the kid is more than likely dead, this chick is crazy. I really dont believe they have evidence of a dead Caylee. People have been locked away for a lot less, if they had a hair that was Caylees, and it had the death band, what more do they need? I really am not buying they are just trying to be thorough anymore, its a travesty Casey has not been charged. moo
And if they do find a live Caylee, I sure hope they can find a wonderful foster family, cuz she probably will not be going back home to that house of lunatics...imo
cloe23
09-16-2008, 04:23 PM
:seeya:
Anyone know what LE found when obtaining Casey's and the Anthony's bank records?
I wonder if there was any paper trial of regular payments to the nanny.
Or was Casey receiving any kind of public assistance that may have paid for Kaylee's daycare? One would think that if any of the Anthony's paid for Kaylee's nanny that they would pay with a check for tax deduction reasons. IMO
I am sure this has been hashed and I apologize for asking, I am so far behind with this case.
Cloe
purplepoints
09-16-2008, 05:14 PM
Dawg~Goneit???
Went and fetched a bone.....Got 'lost'??
REALLY??
I don't know about everyone else, but I am not a "dawg" person so am happy to see the "dawg" is "lost". I just wish Caylee wasn't.
Lorakai
09-16-2008, 06:02 PM
ok guys,.. I'm happy to say I am finally done with my timeline! It took me a long time to finish. Also, please be aware that I am only human and there could be errors, or missing pieces... I've already asked CW to make this a sticky.
Thank you :)
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