Caylee - Monday Night Discussion

[FrankieBones1]

A new thread for discussion since the other is close to its 1,000 post quota. I will put a link on the old thread when it is ready to be closed.

Remember to respect each other and if you cannot please just skip and scroll. Let's all keep the peace.

[Snuggles]

uh oh, no one is here but me, oh no, and now I am talking to myself, AHHH!

[FrankieBones1]

This cam link seems to work better than cam 1.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[desmom]

Thanks Frankie!

:rose: Caylee

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

click an unlit candle to start

[StickyBeak]

Yikes! FB, how about a heads up when bus is leaving :eek:

Hope I have the right exit

[FrankieBones1]

uh oh, no one is here but me, oh no, and now I am talking to myself, AHHH!

The other one will close soon. Are you watching Nancy's show?

[msgatorslayer]

Thanks Frankie!

:rose: Caylee

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/...l=eng&gi=cayle

click an unlit candle to start

Thanks,. Off to light one.:rose:

Hmmm, links bad, Des.

[desmom]

Thanks,. Off to light one.:rose:

Hmmm, links bad, Des.


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

[Snuggles]

The other one will close soon. Are you watching Nancy's show?
unfortunately no, I do not have cable, but would love to know what is going on, are you? Whats going on?

[msgatorslayer]

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

This one works. But I don't see any difference in the URL, lol.

[panokatana]

Listening to the tapes on NG. Wow. That annoyed tone..and not appearing humbled when caught in half-truths (or no truths). She doesn't appear to be at all afraid of LE. IMO she speaks to them rather like she did her mother, without respect.

Does anyone know why Casey was fired from Universal?

She also says..."I used to have an office." IIRC, I read that she actually worked at a kiosk selling film and cameras. Kiosk=office?

JMO

[FrankieBones1]

Yikes! FB, how about a heads up when bus is leaving :eek:

Hope I have the right exit
It's kind of early, StickyBeak. The other one hasn't quite gotten to one thousand posts yet. I'm just getting some of my links in order.

[Snuggles]

Listening to the tapes on NG. Wow. That annoyed tone..and not appearing humbled when caught in half-truths (or no truths). She doesn't appear to be at all afraid of LE. IMO she speaks to them rather like she did her mother, without respect.

Does anyone know why Casey was fired from Universal?

She also says..."I used to have an office." IIRC, I read that she actually worked at a kiosk selling film and cameras. Kiosk=office?

JMO

it strikes me that she is an accomplished liar with a rather vivid imagination, and a warped sense of her own self importance... JMOO

[FrankieBones1]

unfortunately no, I do not have cable, but would love to know what is going on, are you? Whats going on?

Nancy is replaying the audio tapes of Casey's interview with LE at Universal Studios. We see snippets and then she and her panel discuss them. She's shown video tape of the arrest today as well.

[trich]

And Padilla is convinced that Cindy and George know the truth because of a complete change of attitude.

[Snuggles]

Nancy is replaying the audio tapes of Casey's interview with LE at Universal Studios. We see snippets and then she and her panel discuss them. She's shown video tape of the arrest today as well.

Thanks, I wish I got NG,she seems like she is a real pit bull, and willing to go out on a limb for what she thinks is right...

[StickyBeak]

It's kind of early, StickyBeak. The other one hasn't quite gotten to one thousand posts yet. I'm just getting some of my links in order.

TY, be prepared and all that, thought I missed the bus, duh

This rosary bead display is over the top to me. Could be the new fashion statment, anyone checked Paris H lately?. Just seems to inappropriate, but then again, maybe CA is into redemption or doing penance into the millenium. I can just hear Father Kelly telling her in confession, do 500,000 Our Fathers, and Hail Marys for each bail amount out of 13? charges. That's not even counting getting out of purgatory, She is definitely on the Highway to Hell, IMOO

[concernedmom]

Has any more been mentioned about the bones & clothes that were found a few days ago?

[msgatorslayer]

she actually did say again "new tapes released today" but they are not new. WTH is up with that? I heard them a month ago. These are not newly released tapes in this case. I wonder why I heard them early on and so many didnt. I guess not everyone was really digging into the case at that time or something. NG Expert saying "casey anthony is running out of time" Callers want to know where did she really work?? And want to know; why isnt she being interrogated by LE? FBI was called in early on. All they know is she is swept away by her brother into and out of the Attys office everyday and no one really knows what is going on. She HAS NOT Helped Aid in the Search for Caylee. Dead or Alive. Not in Any WAY. Ever. Dots

According to OCSO, these tapes were not released till the 12th.

http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547

[desmom]

Fox 35 reported Det. Melich is flying to CA to meet with the BH and his staff. http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3384.msg454067#msg454067

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71178 confirmation Det. Melich is flying to CA on Thursday.

[shelbar53]

Has any more been mentioned about the bones & clothes that were found a few days ago?

not that I know of and I have been looking but so far I havent seen any outcome..just they thought they were "bird bones"

[concernedmom]

Fox 35 reported Det. Melich is flying to CA to meet with the BH and his staff. http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3384.msg454067#msg454067

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71178 confirmation Det. Melich is flying to CA on Thursday.


Why not just do phone interviews? Wonder whats up?:shrug:

[desmom]

Why not just do phone interviews? Wonder whats up?:shrug:

Maybe LE wants sworn signed statements from BH and staff and are going to visit Casey's marine friend also. :shrug:

[concernedmom]

But i heard them weeks into the case. :eek:

They are the same as the documents.:shrug:

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee


Click any unlit candle to begin.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[Tessie]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107340879&blogID=431687080

[rosejustrose]

Thanks Frankie!

:rose: Caylee

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

click an unlit candle to start

Thank you for the link. It is a quiet place to say a pray for little Caylee:rose:

[msgatorslayer]

But i heard them weeks into the case. :eek:

Must be other tapes that you're getting confused, Jenny. Only the transcripts were released weeks ago. The audio was released on Friday.

[Snuggles]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee


Click any unlit candle to begin.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:
Thanks for the reminder blu, I am off to light some!:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

This cam link seems to work better than cam 1.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.htmlThanks. Peace and quiet. The Anthonys will get some rest tonight. imo

[nellbell]

unfortunately no, I do not have cable, but would love to know what is going on, are you? Whats going on?

You can watch shows via your computer. MOO

[Joan Weiss]

I'm watching, am sick about it. I have to comment NG for continuing to keep Caylee in the news. Headline News. Asking now about searches, the water level, the area doesnt look the same when she would have gone missing. Afraid of messing up evidence or pushing Caylee more into the ground, as Tim Miller said. But we ALL KNOW there was a DIVE TEAM out today........So what about that. There are searches going on. I just think that they cremated her. I wonder if her ashes are in their home in an Urn. Maybe in the Gmas house, I say search her home top to bottom. Something about that bugs me. When we found out her Gma lived in the area as well, that is another HOME that HAS NOT been searched. NG I know you want to believe in the Anthony's but George and Cindy do know the Truth, so does Lee. Padilla knows it we can all tell too! Throw Caylee under the Bus, Anthony's. How can they even hold their heads UP in public??? Mark Hawkins In 29 Palms CA is the last person she was talking to on her cell per Padilla. He is a Marine. And she did say to him about getting drunk and "telling him" whatever it was she had to come clean to him about. Padilla is right about that, what does he know? Was she really planning on going there, and her plan was thwarted early on? He probably didnt even know she had a kid. DotsI wonder if that is why the detective is going to CA to see Lenny?

[FrankieBones1]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107340879&blogID=431687080

Thanks, Tessie. Another one of Casey's victims.

[Snuggles]

You can watch shows via your computer. MOO
ohhh, how nellbell? I am fairly computer inept, so speak slowly and use big words:D

[mitzi]

Maybe LE wants sworn signed statements from BH and staff and are going to visit Casey's marine friend also. :shrug:

You are probably correct. BH and staff were around the family quite a bit. And we have not heard anything about the female that was inside the house. Maybe they want a statement from her. The Marine had a few phone calls with her on the 26th, so I am sure they would want to talk to him in person.

jmo

[day2day]

Maybe LE wants sworn signed statements from BH and staff and are going to visit Casey's marine friend also. :shrug:

I believe Lenny had the Anthony's house bugged. I believe he knows wayyyyy more than he is saying. He has been a BH for thirty years. He has met liars of all shapes and sizes. I hope that their meeting goes well and that he does have information that will bring Caylee home.

jmo

[desmom]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107340879&blogID=431687080

Thanks!.....

[farrahrani]

ohhh, how nellbell? I am fairly computer inept, so speak slowly and use big words:D

Since its OT, I'll pm you some hints that might help, k? :)

[aubrey04]

Don't know if anyone has posted this, but uh,.. Did Leonard Padilla run for mayor of Sacramento? I found this website while trolling the internet:

http://www.leonardpadillaformayor.com/campaignprofile.html

Check out the "skeletons" section - where he addresses "skeletons" of his past:

http://www.leonardpadillaformayor.com/skeletons.html

He's a strange fellow. I don't know what to make of his theories. Sometimes I think they sound reasonable.. and sometimes I think he's not credible at all. (Like when he implied that Lee was Caylee's father. :rolleyes: )

[not.another]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107340879&blogID=431687080

Sorry. This is just garbage talk. Not even worth anything. Who does he think he is? A movie star? Just sayin...not even worth it. That's four minutes of my life I won't get back. imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

Watched Nancy Grace tonight. Came back read a little bit and couldn't decide on which thread I was to post on. We have 3 lol

Something that struck me tonight while watching NG was about the Universal ID's. Casey kept saying Zanny had an ID. LE said just like you have an ID. She said I do have an ID my parents have seen it etc.

Does she think everyone keeps their ID's after being fired from their job for as long as she supposedly did?

My S/O and I talked tonight and this is what he suggested about Casey and her lies.

As long as Casey focuses on the lies not what the person might be thinking about what she is telling them but focusing soley on her lies then she thinks evrything will be ok. As long as she sticks to that lie she doesn't think or worry about whether it is believable or not. It's all abotu the lie. It's obvious she has been lying for a very long time for many different reasons. Casey isn't going to worry about how things look or what someone thinks of her or what someone thinks of what she is telling them as long as she keeps the focus on the lie she is telling them. I tend to think he makes sense when it comes to describing Casey when nobody else can make sense of her.

Something else that strubk me maybe I just had not heard ir before tonight. NG said Cindy claims tha the phonerecord does show that Caylee called the day before Casey was questioned and arrested. How did Cindy get the records and LE didn't? Or could that be one of the things Cindy is lying about? If she has proof Caylee called that day then why not release the call reports? It would help Casey and stop the madness. To a degree.

[Snuggles]

Since its OT, I'll pm you some hints that might help, k? :)

ohh yes, thank you, that would be much appreciated!

[Tessie]

Thanks!.....

You are very welcome.

[bchand]

According to OCSO, these tapes were not released till the 12th.

http://www.ocso.com/Default.aspx?tabid=547

That's correct. Perhaps Jenny is getting the transcripts confused with the tapes?

[Rebel Rouzer]

Yes verbatim but I had HEARD THEM. Because I wanted to hear her voice and her demeanor which is something I usually do in cases, have to watch, and or listen intently to the audios. I really do think it was on Wesh... No big deal. I had just heard them, that's all. I called them Re Released tapes lol when the links went national this past week or whatever day that was. Hey, I do want to know why isnt using the Net off limits since she is accused of ID theft and white collar crimes? Wouldnt you think there would be a no internet type of block on her activity?? Am I just weird to think that? She could rip people off, major scam and fly out of FL in a heartbeat. I have always been afraid that she would flee. Pull an OJ or whatever you want to call it. Either that or Check Out, Like Duckett did. Does everyone think or agree she is way too selfish to check out?

Is it possible that the site you heard them on was an audio version option of the transcripts. Not the actual interview tapes with their voices etc on them? Some sites give you an option to listen to the file rather than read the file? It wouldn't actually be the original taped audio. Just a comuterised audio version of the printed file. Just asking?

[mitzi]

YIKES well that is just a trip. AM not sure what he means by a "Maloof" or who "maloofs" are?? In the first link. Maybe it's a type of people fgs, what is that. A Maloof? This is interesting. Not a very impressive resume, I dont feel. Dots.

Probably the Maloof family. IIRC they own The Palms R&C in Vegas, and I think a sports team. jmo

[Rebel Rouzer]

He is a strange fellow indeed. He doesn't seem to know his cowboy hat from his elbow. I view him to be one more fruitbat in the sauce, hoping to boost his own popularity.


UH UH weren't you praising him before he turned his opinion around of Casey and the Anthony's? :read:

[panokatana]

For some reason, I had not seen the bond hearing with Lee, in it's entirety.

I agree with the poster who said he does take a roundabout way, elaborately explaining...simple things. And using words, absolutely (how many times does he say that?), specifically, etc. Cliches. Giving the impression of self assured.

For example, they asked him when he moved out. Not a question relating to Caylee's disappearance, per se.... but the pause...the thinking back...just seemed to labored to be a simple memory.
I don't think it means anything, just of interest to me... but it's so similar to the way Casey speaks. Polished, long sentences, changing sentences...w/ Lee: ("clarify something" becomes "explain something clearly"). Casey does the same thing in the tapes...(although, in all her attempted use of the multi-syllable words...she does say..."The last time I SEEN her." ouch.)

I suppose my interest is piqued regarding this because, if she was so smooth...while lying, it makes it difficult to believe anyone else in that family, even Lee.

JMO

[dixie77]

Maybe they need a copy of the marines hard drive??
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Thats if he didnt already dispose of it. JMO

[Joan Weiss]

Watched Nancy Grace tonight. Came back read a little bit and couldn't decide on which thread I was to post on. We have 3 lol

Something that struck me tonight while watching NG was about the Universal ID's. Casey kept saying Zanny had an ID. LE said just like you have an ID. She said I do have an ID my parents have seen it etc.

Does she think everyone keeps their ID's after being fired from their job for as long as she supposedly did?

My S/O and I talked tonight and this is what he suggested about Casey and her lies.

As long as Casey focuses on the lies not what the person might be thinking about what she is telling them but focusing soley on her lies then she thinks evrything will be ok. As long as she sticks to that lie she doesn't think or worry about whether it is believable or not. It's all abotu the lie. It's obvious she has been lying for a very long time for many different reasons. Casey isn't going to worry about how things look or what someone thinks of her or what someone thinks of what she is telling them as long as she keeps the focus on the lie she is telling them. I tend to think he makes sense when it comes to describing Casey when nobody else can make sense of her.

Something else that strubk me maybe I just had not heard ir before tonight. NG said Cindy claims tha the phonerecord does show that Caylee called the day before Casey was questioned and arrested. How did Cindy get the records and LE didn't? Or could that be one of the things Cindy is lying about? If she has proof Caylee called that day then why not release the call reports? It would help Casey and stop the madness. To a degree.NG did ask her to release them. Cindy changed the subject. imo

[bchand]

Sorry LS, I truly am but I heard them very early on. When the PDF docs were released, either Wesh or WFTV, had the audio, And I listened to it; the whole thing. It was only two parts, not 6. Sorry, I know what I listened to LS :D Doncha remember last week I was saying hey I thought you all heard these already?? Because I had.....I thought everyone had heard them. Im going with Wesh, I was onto that site a lot..

We all heard them - when we READ the transcripts of them.

[StickyBeak]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107340879&blogID=431687080

Is this the King Merk connection? I still wonder about one of the first visitors to see casey, that she supposedly did not even know who he was, then suddenly she remembers. This dude is telling her how they are there for her and Rick or someone says Hi. Just too hinky.

First arrest IIRC Heck, I can't find jailhouse video hammer <----Me

[anyonesguess]

Sorry. This is just garbage talk. Not even worth anything. Who does he think he is? A movie star? Just sayin...not even worth it. That's four minutes of my life I won't get back. imo


He is defending himself against allegations of LP imo. WHat is wrong with that, and wouldn't you want to defend yourself as well if accused?:shrug:

[tiny paw-prints]

Maybe they need a copy of the marines hard drive??

California trip: As long as Yuri Melich is meeting with Padilla, I'm sure he'll be meeting with Hawkins as well.

[LordMisRule]

Listening to the tapes on NG. Wow. That annoyed tone..and not appearing humbled when caught in half-truths (or no truths). She doesn't appear to be at all afraid of LE. IMO she speaks to them rather like she did her mother, without respect.

Does anyone know why Casey was fired from Universal?

She also says..."I used to have an office." IIRC, I read that she actually worked at a kiosk selling film and cameras. Kiosk=office?

JMO

She didn't even pause when she laid out all those lies. When she stated that she was an event coordinator at Universal, there was no hesitation. That, to me, is absolutely scary. How in the world could she explain that lie to her family? She wasn't under duress when she was being questioned during that particular interview. Isn't there one sane person in her family?

[aubrey04]

Leonard Padilla denies that he shot Kevin Johnson's cousin during an armed robbery attempt at Padilla's establishment in 1975. April 26, 2008 "...it was my security guard who shot Johnson's cousin...he was armed and attempting to rob my establishment..." WHOA Horsey. :confused:

And he spent time in the clink for IRS-related crimes. Guess he has more in common with Casey than we think.. maybe that's why he felt compelled to bond her out.

Who knows, but he's officially looney tunes in my book. He's had a few interesting theories on what happened with Caylee but he really hasn't come up with anything that hasn't been theorized on here. He adds nothing to this case really.

[desmom]

Caylee Anthony put up about an hour ago on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z0Fls3t3No

It was posted by a member of http://lightingtheirwayhome.wordpress.com/


Grab your tissues before watching video.

[Joan Weiss]

He is defending himself against allegations of LP imo. WHat is wrong with that, and wouldn't you want to defend yourself as well if accused?:shrug:Exactly. Wouldn't any of us do that if we found our names in the middle of a crime discussion on numerous boards such as this one? The guy is also a business man. This situation can't be good for his business. imo

[FrankieBones1]

He is defending himself against allegations of LP imo. WHat is wrong with that, and wouldn't you want to defend yourself as well if accused?:shrug:
I totally agree with you. Poor guy is just another one of several of Casey's victims. It's never ending. I think we are only scratching the surface.

[Joan Weiss]

I do grow it fresh but I dont drink it. I dont like the taste! I would rather, have iced tea TYMV. Am sorry that some of you are upset that I am saying I heard the tapes when the PDF docs were released, sorry bout that. I dont quite understand that. I guess if you really need proof you can sit down and read every post I ever wrote or something like that. How absurd. What's wrong with everyone are you in bad moods or What! hammer Enough of that; Am sorry that i heard the audio tapes, dont know what to say, just because CNN or primetime news claims these tapes are never before heard, doesnt mean it's true and in this case it absolutely is not. I think no one was that interested as this was before the protestors started their picketing. OK? I dont really know what to say, or why anyone would get all in a twist about this. I dont lie, or write things that are lies, online. I'm just not like that. It's not my agenda here, as it is with others. Some are just not good with RSS feeds, or with searching for info online.It's OK, Jenny. This is not even pertinent to the case. Relax. :)

[Pebbles]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mattncats
I am sick of everyone bashing Cindy for this. It is not her fault. How many people have raised kids, only for them to turn Out "Absolutely" horrible. They do everything they can for so many years and then say, OK, there's nothing else I can do. She looks terrible, like she's ready to collapse, for heaven's sake, leave the woman alone. (I feel like the guy on the Britney Spears ad, For God's Sake , Protesters too, Leave her alone. Thanks

I cannot feel any sympathy for Cindy. Protecting Casey is not bringing Caylee home. Lying for Casey is not bringing Caylee home. Hiring a high priced defense attorney is not bringing Caylee home. Having a public relations "phony" speak for you is not bringing Caylee home. Demanding the public, media and LE search for Caylee, instead of demanding Casey tell what happened, is not bringing Caylee home. Making money off of an innocent little child by collecting money for interviews and pictures is not bringing Caylee home.


I get so upset when I see people walking up to the house and telling Cindy they support her because they seem to have forgotten that because of the Anthonys, Casey is home and Caylee is not!!!! This family knows what happened to Caylee, and they are the ones, along with Casey, that are responsible for that little angel still being missing. If the family has their way, little Caylee will never be found.

These people that walk up to the Anthonys and give Cindy a big hug, which Cindy wants to make sure is in front of the news cameras, are just giving Cindy and her family all the more reason to go on with their lies. If Cindy, George and Lee truly wanted Caylee to come home they will stop defending Casey and begin demanding answers from her. Come on, they are the parents, stop protecting Casey and begin getting tough with her.

It appears to me that Cindy and her family want to be seen as the victims in all of this, and that will never bring Caylee home.


The only sympathy that I have is for Caylee, she is the one that needs it and is still missing. I am not going to waste my sympathy on the Anthony family and apparently the Anthonys and Casey have more important things to do than looking for Caylee, like pulling weeds, high fives and big smiles.



Caylee we have not forgotten you!!

[Joan Weiss]

He is a strange fellow indeed. He doesn't seem to know his cowboy hat from his elbow. I view him to be one more fruitbat in the sauce, hoping to boost his own popularity.How about his claim that the dumpster was going to figure big in this case? Nada, zip. imo

[dixie77]

Caylee Anthony put up about an hour ago on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z0Fls3t3No

It was posted by a member of http://lightingtheirwayhome.wordpress.com/


Grab your tissues before watching video.
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Thanks for posting this. Its so sad. I think Caylee looks just like Cindy. JMO

[Rebel Rouzer]

Caylee Anthony put up about an hour ago on youtube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z0Fls3t3No

It was posted by a member of http://lightingtheirwayhome.wordpress.com/


Grab your tissues before watching video.

We did try Caylee. We did. Some are still trying.

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[msgatorslayer]

Watched Nancy Grace tonight. Came back read a little bit and couldn't decide on which thread I was to post on. We have 3 lol

Something that struck me tonight while watching NG was about the Universal ID's. Casey kept saying Zanny had an ID. LE said just like you have an ID. She said I do have an ID my parents have seen it etc.

Does she think everyone keeps their ID's after being fired from their job for as long as she supposedly did?

My S/O and I talked tonight and this is what he suggested about Casey and her lies.

As long as Casey focuses on the lies not what the person might be thinking about what she is telling them but focusing soley on her lies then she thinks evrything will be ok. As long as she sticks to that lie she doesn't think or worry about whether it is believable or not. It's all abotu the lie. It's obvious she has been lying for a very long time for many different reasons. Casey isn't going to worry about how things look or what someone thinks of her or what someone thinks of what she is telling them as long as she keeps the focus on the lie she is telling them. I tend to think he makes sense when it comes to describing Casey when nobody else can make sense of her.

Something else that strubk me maybe I just had not heard ir before tonight. NG said Cindy claims tha the phonerecord does show that Caylee called the day before Casey was questioned and arrested. How did Cindy get the records and LE didn't? Or could that be one of the things Cindy is lying about? If she has proof Caylee called that day then why not release the call reports? It would help Casey and stop the madness. To a degree.

Well, I can see people keeping trinkets from their jobs. My Dad has a JAWS finger puppet from when he worked as a mechanical engineer contractor on Universal's JAWS ride. :lol: He keeps trinkets from all his projects. Even has a tampon in there, which, I about fainted when I seen.

But Casey only kept hers cause she needed proof that she still worked there, lmao. It was like gold to her so I guess she thought others felt the same way.

Casey mentions in her interview with LE that she had went online and looked at her cell records. I imagine this is how her family has also looked at them. But Cindy is lying. LE also has the records and they say the phone call never happened. Cindy would like everyone to believe that LE is telling the mistruths, halftruths, and that they are performing a backwards investigation. Instead of admitting that her Daughter is like the devil.

[rosejustrose]

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Thanks for posting this. Its so sad. I think Caylee looks just like Cindy. JMO


Hi dixie! I was just getting ready to post the same exact thing. The similarity is uncanny, IMO.

[aubrey04]

:lol: Aubrey I swear I never even thought about looking into HIS past, fgs but I am not surprised in the least. So MANY of us complained and complained about him early on. I'd like to know did Nancy Grace or CNN really know this guys past before they continually put him on the air? Oh wait he reminds me of someone, that guy who claimed he had the card in his pocket when Daniel Died in the Bahamas. That is EXACTLY who he reminds me of!! He's a con; and he has effectively inserted himself into this crime in primetime news?? Doesnt anyone VET people any more???? disagree


Agreed. Why NG keeps giving him a platform is beyond my comprehension? It didn't take me long to find that site on the internet, so I am sure NG's producers could have found it easily.

It has to be for sensationalism purposes only.. There is no way that I think Nancy thinks he's credible. NO WAY in hades.

Like I said - some theories seem decent but he hasn't really brought up anything we haven't theorized on here. Besides the little tidbit about Caylee being conceived via an incestuous relationship between Lee and Casey.. which was flat out ridiculous. :no:

[mattncats]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mattncats
I am sick of everyone bashing Cindy for this. It is not her fault. How many people have raised kids, only for them to turn Out "Absolutely" horrible. They do everything they can for so many years and then say, OK, there's nothing else I can do. She looks terrible, like she's ready to collapse, for heaven's sake, leave the woman alone. (I feel like the guy on the Britney Spears ad, For God's Sake , Protesters too, Leave her alone. Thanks

I cannot feel any sympathy for Cindy. Protecting Casey is not bringing Caylee home. Lying for Casey is not bringing Caylee home. Hiring a high priced defense attorney is not bringing Caylee home. Having a public relations "phony" speak for you is not bringing Caylee home. Demanding the public, media and LE search for Caylee, instead of demanding Casey tell what happened, is not bringing Caylee home. Making money off of an innocent little child by collecting money for interviews and pictures is not bringing Caylee home.


I get so upset when I see people walking up to the house and telling Cindy they support her because they seem to have forgotten that because of the Anthonys, Casey is home and Caylee is not!!!! This family knows what happened to Caylee, and they are the ones, along with Casey, that are responsible for that little angel still being missing. If the family has their way, little Caylee will never be found.

These people that walk up to the Anthonys and give Cindy a big hug, which Cindy wants to make sure is in front of the news cameras, are just giving Cindy and her family all the more reason to go on with their lies. If Cindy, George and Lee truly wanted Caylee to come home they will stop defending Casey and begin demanding answers from her. Come on, they are the parents, stop protecting Casey and begin getting tough with her.

It appears to me that Cindy and her family want to be seen as the victims in all of this, and that will never bring Caylee home.


The only sympathy that I have is for Caylee, she is the one that needs it and is still missing. I am not going to waste my sympathy on the Anthony family and apparently the Anthonys and Casey have more important things to do than looking for Caylee, like pulling weeds, high fives and big smiles.



Caylee we have not forgotten you!!

She still didn't cause this, Casey did!!

[rosejustrose]

Well, I can see people keeping trinkets from their jobs. My Dad has a JAWS finger puppet from when he worked as a mechanical engineer contractor on Universal's JAWS ride. :lol: He keeps trinkets from all his projects. Even has a tampon in there, which, I about fainted when I seen.

But Casey only kept hers cause she needed proof that she still worked there, lmao. It was like gold to her so I guess she thought others felt the same way.

Casey mentions in her interview with LE that she had went online and looked at her cell records. I imagine this is how her family has also looked at them. But Cindy is lying. LE also has the records and they say the phone call never happened. Cindy would like everyone to believe that LE is telling the mistruths, halftruths, and that they are performing a backwards investigation. Instead of admitting that her Daughter is like the devil.

I thought Casey told the detectives that SHE was doing a backwards investigation trying to find her daughter. That's how they ended up at Universal:rolleyes:

[rosejustrose]

His biggest hallucination ever has been that Lee is the father of Caylee. I am surprised that NG has allowed him to escape that without holding him accountable for his insinuations. The man is a joke and should have stayed in Calif. where he had only one state laughing at him instead of nationwide.

ITA and NG is going to lose credibility if she keeps show casing him on her show. She never lets him finish his answers anyway so why bother having him own. Besides that, he's annoying, IMO.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Hmmmmm Vedy Interesting!! You know, I've never ever took a word he said without black filing it first. lol. Some people online were saying Oh I love this guy he's really grown on me. I couldnt help it all along I just wanted to know where the heck this guy came from and why is he on CNN every night???? FGS now that is just a Huge Snafu to me. It's hard because we used to love CNN and their programming truly was NEWS Those days seem to be over. I find myself actually vetting THEM and what I hear on "primetime" NEWS.....have to realize it's not....its a whole other ball of wax, Indeed!!! Could you imagine being on home confinement and not being able to go to the beach, or do regular things in life? Is THIS why Padilla was such a fan of home confinement? I never did understand why he drove all the way out from CA, I guess he saw his moment and he jumped on it. But I for one, do NOT appreciate people who try to make money off of Dead Children. Tasteless and Horribly WRONG to me. Dots................


I've always thought LP was an odd ball and can't figure out why the talking heads keep having him on. I just thought it odd that someone who thought he was just the coolest thing since poptarts wants to say differently now. lol

[rosejustrose]

I'm actually very interested in finding out; who this pathology comes from, Cindy's father or her mother. We've not seen hide nor hair of either. Did they not care about Caylee as well? Wild horses couldnt keep me away; or down in a situation like this. Of that Im sure. Dots..........

Maybe it came from George's side of the family, if it is inherited and I'm not convinced sociopathy is. We've heard nothing about George's family other than he threw his dad through a plate glass window. Temper, temper George!!! I certainly think her ease of lying comes from the way she was raised. I think she learned that at home, IMO.

[msgatorslayer]

I thought Casey told the detectives that SHE was doing a backwards investigation trying to find her daughter. That's how they ended up at Universal:rolleyes:

Yes, she did, lol. Taking them to places Caylee may be. Love when she's asked if Caylee took a taxi there.

She's a real piece!!

[forensicnut]

That's correct. Perhaps Jenny is getting the transcripts confused with the tapes?I posted the link to all 8 parts of the tapes last Friday.

[concernedmom]

I didnt care for Lenny and still dont. But, I thinhk the man knows more about what was going on in that house than we think. I doubt he was just Casey sitting.

[mitzi]

Oh Thank you Mitzi, rofl. I didnt have a clue what he meant. :D But, I did sleep in a casino in Laughlin.....a few times hehe. :eek:

Your welcome!:)

[rosejustrose]

When Leonard first rode onto the scene, I was somewhat dismissive of him, also.

He's grown on me a bit in recent weeks, though.

Actually, if you're looking for Sympathetic Characters in this particular Morality Play, Leonard's probably got a leg up on Casey, George, Cindy, Jose and whoever the Smarmy Local Defense Attorney representing the Anthony's is.

Just IMO, of course. :)


The only sympathetic character in this case is Caylee and only Caylee. Every other person involved has some sort of agenda and it isn't finding Caylee:flamemad:

[Pebbles]

She still didn't cause this, Casey did!!



I never said Cindy caused it, but her actions have not helped in bringing Caylee home, and that is what I disagree with and the reason I have no sympathy for Cindy, George or Lee.hammer

[rosejustrose]

I didnt care for Lenny and still dont. But, I thinhk the man knows more about what was going on in that house than we think. I doubt he was just Casey sitting.

I got the very distinct impression that Lenny and crew were outside of the house, not in the house Casey sitting. IIRC he said that she barely spoke two words to him and those words were in the van coming back from jail - thank you. After that she didn't speak to him and I don't recall him being a regular guest in the Anthony home. Stand to be corrected.

JMO.

[Pruddennce]

I'm He is a Marine. And she did say to him about getting drunk and "telling him" whatever it was she had to come clean to him about. Padilla is right about that, what does he know? Was she really planning on going there, and her plan was thwarted early on? He probably didnt even know she had a kid. Dots

respectfully snipped....

Jesse Grund's statement: On July 3, she told him not to talk to her parents if they called. which included the statement 'Its a long story, Ill probably call you when I get drunk and tell you".

best regards,
Pru

[Motomom]

Hey all :seeya: Just got caught up on the major things that happened this week. So she's arrested again, more cops have had sex with her, bond tomorrow and still no Caylee. I wish they'd let her stay in there a while longer this time. I was most shocked that more officers stepped up about having sex with her. I don't know why, I shouldn't be. Just a lifestyle I can't even imagine.

[msgatorslayer]

Ok I thnk I just about want to crack. Where Are Caylee's blue crocks? I wonder if they are missing too, she wears them a lot. So where are her blue shoes? I have little pink ones, they are my coop shoes. Do you think this family could produce her blue crocks? Or should the searchers, be searching for them specifically. :shrug:

This family cannot be trusted to tell the truth about what items of Caylee's are missing. IMO

[rosejustrose]

Ok I thnk I just about want to crack. Where Are Caylee's blue crocks? I wonder if they are missing too, she wears them a lot. So where are her blue shoes? I have little pink ones, they are my coop shoes. Do you think this family could produce her blue crocks? Or should the searchers, be searching for them specifically. :shrug:


Strange you should mention shoes. When Casey claimed she spoke to Caylee the day before she was arrested she said Caylee told her about her shoes and a story she was reading. I thought to myself, WTH shoes???? Maybe those little blue crocs or some other pair of cute little shoes are sticking in Casey's craw. Why say something so bizarre? It just bothered me a lot sort of like the missing telephone was bothering boxer all day. JMO.

[bchand]

The only sympathetic character in this case is Caylee and only Caylee. Every other person involved has some sort of agenda and it isn't finding Caylee:flamemad:


I agree. I have no sympathy for any of the Anthony family anymore. When I hear stories about shenanigans with the Caylee fund and no one in that family working anymore, it makes me ill.

[desmom]

I didnt care for Lenny and still dont. But, I thinhk the man knows more about what was going on in that house than we think. I doubt he was just Casey sitting.


I agree!

He has some outrageous things, but I always figured he was trying to get a response out of Casey or one of the family members....pushing away at their buttons until one of them blows type of thing.

:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

Hello again Rose :D You know; who is irish, was Caylee's real father Irish, or are the Anthony's irish. I've seen her in a few hats, with the Irish bit and a top too....George actually looks Irish, could be what we used to call "dark Irish" usually they do have a reputation for nasty behavior. Hence the "dark"..... My babies father was black Irish/dark Irish however one wants to put it. Nasty Temper Too!!!!

I wondered too and thought maybe from Cindy's side or both. I noticed the Kiss Me I'm Irish shirt Caylee was wearing in one photo. Maybe it was taken around or on St. Patrick's Day. Everyone's Irish on St. Pat's Day:D JMO.

[bluwaters]

I've always thought LP was an odd ball and can't figure out why the talking heads keep having him on. I just thought it odd that someone who thought he was just the coolest thing since poptarts wants to say differently now. lol
Well, I do like LP. I was disappointed when he left FL. Apparently, he is a good BH. I had hoped that he really could help to find Caylee. I also felt that there was real security in the Anthony's neighborhood when Lenny & Co were there around the clock. The new BGs can't begin to compare.
Evidently, Yuri Melich thinks LP has something to offer. :shrug:

[bchand]

respectfully snipped....

Jesse Grund's statement: On July 3, she told him not to talk to her parents if they called. which included the statement 'Its a long story, Ill probably call you when I get drunk and tell you".

best regards,
Pru


Nothing like the facts Pru :) Thanks

[dixie77]

On NG tonight, the two attorneys said (about the tapes) that Casey's rights were violated because of the Miranda rights. They said she should have had her attorney present. Nancy said "no".
Anyone see it? Sorry if this was already talked about on the other page. JMO

[rosejustrose]

She still didn't cause this, Casey did!!

Agreed, Cindy did not cause this, Casey did. But, IMO, Cindy is perpetuating the madness.

[concernedmom]

I got the very distinct impression that Lenny and crew were outside of the house, not in the house Casey sitting. IIRC he said that she barely spoke two words to him and those words were in the van coming back from jail - thank you. After that she didn't speak to him and I don't recall him being a regular guest in the Anthony home. Stand to be corrected.

JMO.


There was supposed to be a woman in the house with Casey. And she may have placed a bug. Not legal perhaps but doesnt mean he didnt do it.:shrug:

[rosejustrose]

On NG tonight, the two attorneys said (about the tapes) that Casey's rights were violated because of the Miranda rights. They said she should have had her attorney present. Nancy said "no".
Anyone see it? Sorry if this was already talked about on the other page. JMO


I did. It was about her not being mirandized before the interview. NG claimed that she was and that she had a signed copy of the miranda form and she assumed that Casey could read. I had read somewhere that Casey had signed that form before her first interview in her home. JMO and stand to be corrected.

[Pebbles]

http://www.local6.com/video/17477774/index.html

Hope I did this right, video of grandmother of Dakota.

[joint-heir]

When Leonard first rode onto the scene, I was somewhat dismissive of him, also.

He's grown on me a bit in recent weeks, though.

Actually, if you're looking for Sympathetic Characters in this particular Morality Play, Leonard's probably got a leg up on Casey, George, Cindy, Jose and whoever the Smarmy Local Defense Attorney representing the Anthony's is.

Just IMO, of course. :)

I don't usually say too much, but I have to finally speak up in support of LP! When he first came on scene, I understood his position. I think it was awfully "manly" of him to stick around and say "I was wrong".. He could have just disappeared, but he's stayed around and taken a lot of gruff because he believed differently at first. It seems so many are so suspicious of anyone who tries to make money at what they are good at. I pray he can enlighten Yuri on anything that will help. None of us are perfect. (JMO)

[dixie77]

Well, I do like LP. I was disappointed when he left FL. Apparently, he is a good BH. I had hoped that he really could help to find Caylee. I also felt that there was real security in the Anthony's neighborhood when Lenny & Co were there around the clock. The new BGs can't begin to compare.
Evidently, Yuri Melich thinks LP has something to offer. :shrug:
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I also like LP. I agree with your post. JMO

[frances1]

I'm watching, am sick about it. I have to comment NG for continuing to keep Caylee in the news. Headline News. Asking now about searches, the water level, the area doesnt look the same when she would have gone missing. Afraid of messing up evidence or pushing Caylee more into the ground, as Tim Miller said. But we ALL KNOW there was a DIVE TEAM out today........So what about that. There are searches going on. I just think that they cremated her. I wonder if her ashes are in their home in an Urn. Maybe in the Gmas house, I say search her home top to bottom. Something about that bugs me. When we found out her Gma lived in the area as well, that is another HOME that HAS NOT been searched. NG I know you want to believe in the Anthony's but George and Cindy do know the Truth, so does Lee. Padilla knows it we can all tell too! Throw Caylee under the Bus, Anthony's. How can they even hold their heads UP in public??? Mark Hawkins In 29 Palms CA is the last person she was talking to on her cell per Padilla. He is a Marine. And she did say to him about getting drunk and "telling him" whatever it was she had to come clean to him about. Padilla is right about that, what does he know? Was she really planning on going there, and her plan was thwarted early on? He probably didnt even know she had a kid. Dots


Jenny, the part about telling Mark Hawkins what she had to come clean about, very creepily reminds me of Scott Peterson telling Amber Frey he had "lost" his wife.

[Velouria]

UH UH weren't you praising him before he turned his opinion around of Casey and the Anthony's? :read:

Which begs the immortal question...

What wud Leonard do? :confused:

[Boxer]

Don't know if anyone has posted this, but uh,.. Did Leonard Padilla run for mayor of Sacramento? I found this website while trolling the internet:

http://www.leonardpadillaformayor.com/campaignprofile.html

Check out the "skeletons" section - where he addresses "skeletons" of his past:

http://www.leonardpadillaformayor.com/skeletons.html

He's a strange fellow. I don't know what to make of his theories. Sometimes I think they sound reasonable.. and sometimes I think he's not credible at all. (Like when he implied that Lee was Caylee's father. :rolleyes: )

yes he ran. He also offered a man convicted and jailed for molestation of two 9 yr old boys, safe harbor at his property when he was released.
http://www.sacramentorepublicrat.com/2006/07/timothy_boggs_to_be_released_i.php

[tiny paw-prints]

This family cannot be trusted to tell the truth about what items of Caylee's are missing. IMO

True, but LE did take a lot of evidence bags from the Anthony house, including soil samples from the back yard, especially under the bamboo tree.

[rosejustrose]

I think LE is trying to find Caylee.

I think TES was/is trying to find Caylee.

I think it's possible that the BH was trying to find Caylee although, of course, I'd have no more knowledge of that than you would! :)

I think LE would like to find Caylee, too.

I have never questioned TES' motives.

The BH's motives were not altruistic IMO. He does have a reality TV show in the makings and that was/is a lot of free publicity, IMO.

However, you were talking about sympathetic characters, Caylee is the only one worthy of any sympathy at this point, IMO.

[Fallen Angel]

Thanks, Tessie. Another one of Casey's victims.

she sucks them in and spits them out. I feel sorry for ANYONE thats has ever come in contact with her.

[True2Blues]

She still didn't cause this, Casey did!!

Cause what? Cause Caylee to be missing? No Casey did that, she is completely responsible for that.

Cindy, however, has had a large part in causing the mess that surrounds this case. She couldn't stay off of TV, ran after the cameras and then when it wasn't convenient anymore, yelled for them to go away.

She called the press she'd earlier touted names, called Tim Miller, Who came at her request to help her, names. She blames Caylee's being missing on everyone except Casey. She even claimed that if Caylee were found dead, it would be the medias fault.

She screams and shouts for everyone else to go look for Caylee, but hasn't gotten off her duff to do a blasted thing. She claims that she takes thousands of calls a day, which isn't possible, and thinks that proves something.

She expects everyone to believe that unsubstantiated sightings she supposedly learns about on these calls are fact, and can't understand why everyone (except herself or her family) isn't racing off to Mexico to search the entire country.

Cindy is to blame for Cindy's behavior, Cindy's lies, Cindy's tirades, her Classless name calling and all of her efforts to obstruct both the investigation and the search for Caylee.

I believe that she is enabling her daughter to keep Caylee lost forever. She has used that poor child as a prop, an excuse to get on TV and a way to make money. The Facebook site they have is nothing but a page of give me money in any way, we take cash, checks, credit cards, gift cards........

It's despicable. She and her family are despicable in my opinion and I'm not blaming Cindy for murdering Caylee, I'm sure Casey did that. I blame Cindy for the mess she's helped to create, for putting camera time and Casey above Caylee, for telling people not to help Tim Miller, to name a few things.

It doesn't make any of us less compassionate, less caring, less anything than YOU. It just means we see things differently.

[desmom]

Today's arrest affidavit

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0915/17479677.pdf

[rosejustrose]

There was supposed to be a woman in the house with Casey. And she may have placed a bug. Not legal perhaps but doesnt mean he didnt do it.:shrug:

One of the legal folks that appeared on NG last week said he had no doubt the Anthony home was bugged under the provision of Title III. NeJame said his clients didn't care because they have nothing to hide. Anyone know what Title III is?

[msgatorslayer]

I would have cracked by now if I was anyone in this family.

None of this is healthy or makes one happy.

The constant wash, rinse, repeat, of Casey being there one day, and gone the next, arrested. The lies. The protesters. The madness.

Could have stuck a fork in me a long time ago.

[Destini]

I was just reading the candle page for Caylee. Someone wrote, "Caylee is found today" on one of the pages, then on another page apparently the same person writes, "Caylee is found now, today," have the initial D on the front candle page.

I suppose that's just someone being hopeful, or is it? I just found it odd and wondered if anyone else reads the dedications.

[Pruddennce]

Mark Hawkins In 29 Palms CA is the last person she was talking to on her cell per Padilla. He is a Marine. And she did say to him about getting drunk and "telling him" whatever it was she had to come clean to him about. Padilla is right about that, what does he know? Was she really planning on going there, and her plan was thwarted early on? He probably didnt even know she had a kid. Dots

respectfully snipped...

my previous post regarding the drunk statement:

Jesse Grund's statement was the person she told not to talk to her parents if they contacted him, she would get drunk and tell him what was going on. That was on July 3.

I intended to include this in the above previous post:

with reference to Mark Hawkins:

LE spoke with him already...he called them. LE writes in the doc that Mark Hawkins and Casey were in almost daily communication via telephone and internet. A week ago from July 17, she told him she was planning a trip to California and had something to tell him...she told her mother and brother but didnt know how he would react.

???

of course he knew she had a child.....Mark Hawkins' mother knew Casey as well and saw her at the Target store on 7/10. alone.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[dixie77]

I would have cracked by now if I was anyone in this family.

None of this is healthy or makes one happy.

The constant wash, rinse, repeat, of Casey being there one day, and gone the next, arrested. The lies. The protesters. The madness.

Could have stuck a fork in me a long time ago.
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I'm in total agreement with u. But just remember........Nothing stays the same forever. Something will give soon......i just know it. JMO

[pmb]

Been away most of the afternoon, was there ever any news about the body found by the bridge? thanks

[trich]

But i heard them weeks into the case. :eek:



Are you sure you are not confusing the tapes with the transcripts?

[dixie77]

Been away most of the afternoon, was there ever any news about the body found by the bridge? thanks
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The torso was that of a young adult. Not Caylee.

[msgatorslayer]

Been away most of the afternoon, was there ever any news about the body found by the bridge? thanks

Yes, it wasn't a child.

[pmb]

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The torso was that of a young adult. Not Caylee.

Thank you!

[tiny paw-prints]

respectfully snipped....

Jesse Grund's statement: On July 3, she told him not to talk to her parents if they called. which included the statement 'Its a long story, Ill probably call you when I get drunk and tell you".

best regards,
Pru

Interesting, Pru. July 3rd is also the date Cindy wrote the "distraught mood" dialog about missing Caylee.

Also, IIRC, sometime between July 2-July 5th is when Casey spent the night with Amy when Casey convinced Amy of sleepwalking. Amy was missing some cash. Did Amy inquire of Casey where Caylee was? It's never been mentioned anywhere that I'm aware of.

[msgatorslayer]

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I'm in total agreement with u. But just remember........Nothing stays the same forever. Something will give soon......i just know it. JMO

I hope so. As I can't believe that there is absolutely NO tension in that household. I keep hoping that they all have another big blow up and George tosses Casey out to the protesters.:tongue:

[Boxer]

question: is the first we've heard about Caylee's shoes when the transcripts came out?

[Pruddennce]

Thank You Pru that's it exactly. Why would it take LE this long to just now actually GO to CA to see what this guy knows or doesnt know? I would think that USMC would be very helpful in providing anything their guy new about this "mother" I would have guessed by now he would have turned over ANY correspondence he had with her via txt message or otherwise :shrug: Well thanks for letting me vent all. It's just too much when I think about this child, and how no one said a thing. And LE still is using the date of the 9th and Cindy didnt know her own Grandchilds, eye color. :rose: That really hurts. My eyes change color, no worries tho my DH knows exactly what color my eyes are!! Hazel and brown, am sorry but the two arn't even close. Hazel is green/blue eyes. Isnt it??

your welcome jennyanydots...

her poster clearly shows beautiful hazel eyes...hazel sometimes morphs over, but its usually a light brown, green, mixes.....sorry people I dont buy Cindy's faux pas when it comes to a beloved grandaughter and the color of her eyes....

I mean, whats up with that? saying BIG BROWN EYES when the poster clearly says hazel...

where has it been stated that LE is going to see Mark Hawkins?

best regards,
Pru

[rosejustrose]

:lol: "Dakota is the one who calls the Anthonys constantly."

Grandma, get a clue!


And a set of dentures! Yuk!

[dixie77]

I hope so. As I can't believe that there is absolutely NO tension in that household. I keep hoping that they all have another big blow up and George tosses Casey out to the protesters.:tongue:=======
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Well.....to be honest.......i cant say that i wouldnt enjoy seeing Casey being thrown to the protesters. I wish they would put her in the gen. pop. in jail. JMO

[rosejustrose]

it applies to electronic surveillance.

tyvm .

[nana6]

That is correct! It was bizarre, like she was sticking to the script of the nursing home video, in fact. Reading her book, telling her something about her shoes...those shoes. Yes they are now stuck for certain in my mind. I've noticed them several times, I just want to know; what articles of her clothing are missing!! And how could these people do this to Caylee. I mean, how. How does someone do this to their loved ones memory? I dont understand it and I dont have a close family. This is beyond any dysfunction that Im aware of. Those Blue Crocks. I say produce them. I guess we should feel actually lucky they are not running around each carrying a strawberry shortcake doll or something that was her favorite stuffed animal? It disturbs me that Casey Anthony continues to try to make this about a fashion statment of some kind from the beads today to the ridiculous things on her wrist. I wonder if it is finally starting to wear on her; that the WORLD thinks she is a monster, and we've got her dime? I want those shoes, so should LE. Afterall it IS summertime, and I would want to make sure her bathing suit as well, is accounted for. (sigh) I just washed my crocs the other day. I garden in them often. I like to go barefoot and you can slip in and out of them easily. Still no Amber alert for this child, Still No Arrest for her Murder or Early Demise.

Hi Jenny, great post. I think I remember in the documents that casey said Caylee was wearing a pink top and white shorts. I am sooo tired tonight I can't find it but I will try tomorrow. Maybe the shoes were mentioned too-not sure

[Rayosunshine]

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=107340879&blogID=431687080

Yo! I think I'll order the tapes on how to be a New Mogul.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[concernedmom]

Looks like the Anthony neighborhood is getting a good nights sleep tonight.

[frances1]

Yes verbatim but I had HEARD THEM. Because I wanted to hear her voice and her demeanor which is something I usually do in cases, have to watch, and or listen intently to the audios. I really do think it was on Wesh... No big deal. I had just heard them, that's all. I called them Re Released tapes lol when the links went national this past week or whatever day that was. Hey, I do want to know why isnt using the Net off limits since she is accused of ID theft and white collar crimes? Wouldnt you think there would be a no internet type of block on her activity?? Am I just weird to think that? She could rip people off, major scam and fly out of FL in a heartbeat. I have always been afraid that she would flee. Pull an OJ or whatever you want to call it. Either that or Check Out, Like Duckett did. Does everyone think or agree she is way too selfish to check out?


Jenny, you probably remembering hearing the taped phone calls from jail, and reading the transcripts of the interviews, and are just getting all that confused. We did hear Casey's voice in the phone calls.

[kakax]

Looks like the Anthony neighborhood is getting a good nights sleep tonight.


I'm glad for that. Maybe it will allow the GPs to be still a bit and reflect on what has happened. I really want to believe they didn't have anything to do with this.

[OneUp]

The only sympathetic character in this case is Caylee and only Caylee. Every other person involved has some sort of agenda and it isn't finding Caylee:flamemad:I know this was stated a bit ago, but I wanted it to be repeated. And to say I totally agree! Well said Rose!
JMO.

[Bluegal]

your welcome jennyanydots...

her poster clearly shows beautiful hazel eyes...hazel sometimes morphs over, but its usually a light brown, green, mixes.....sorry people I dont buy Cindy's faux pas when it comes to a beloved grandaughter and the color of her eyes....

I mean, whats up with that? saying BIG BROWN EYES when the poster clearly says hazel...

where has it been stated that LE is going to see Mark Hawkins?

best regards,
Pru


there is an entire thread about it on the WS board. Yuri is flying to California on Thursday to meet LP. That part has been verified by the site owner. Speculation is that Yuri is going to meet with Mark Hawkins while there.

[rosejustrose]

question: is the first we've heard about Caylee's shoes when the transcripts came out?

Not that I can recall. I've been looking but the only reference to shoes is when Casey claims Caylee called her and talked about shoes. I'm trying to find George's statement about what they were wearing. I'm guess I've been reading too much today. Probably best to call it a night and start fresh tomorrow. Dang those little blue shoes. JMO.

[Kathlb]

My Dream ending scenario:

1. LE has all the DNA evidence they need to convict Casey.

2. LE has little Caylee's remains and DNA have proven it. (I didn't want this, but now that we pretty much know it's true, I want her at peace.)

3. Yuri is flying out to CA to get the final keys to nail it down which are info from LP that they gathered from a "bug" in the house while they were here and to get a statement from Mark, the Marine who Casey confessed to online and was heading out to stay with him. (LP said tonight on NG that LE needs to visit with him because if she would have ever trusted anyone to tell the truth to, it is him.)

4. Casey is convicted of murdering her baby girl and Caylee is brought home to rest where many will visit her showing her how loved she is.

I like my scenario. I'm hoping it's all true but .............. we will know soon. JMHO MOO

[kakax]

in Amy's myspace talking about how to get her mail I think...



hmmm, so why the big hub bub rofl.

[StickyBeak]

To my Knowledge, Cindy has not left the property since the webcam was set up. She was seeking the media at any opportunity, to get the word out to look for Caylee. Now, she is nothing more than a lawn ranger, sneaking around for any chance to see herself on TV. Take away her Spot Light, clear the protesters out. I would love to see just how long it would take for her to blame the media and LE for not looking for Caylee and for her to step up and put her money where he mouth is. JMO The news media can give us update and I promise to click onto the websites atleast 2x's a day to keep up the ratings. :patriot:

[concernedmom]

Are those search areas drying up yet?

[Velouria]

they sacrificed the innocent Caylee for the arrogant Casey.....

That's it in a nutshell, peel. :beer:

[KKKKKKatie]

there is an entire thread about it on the WS board. Yuri is flying to California on Thursday to meet LP. That part has been verified by the site owner. Speculation is that Yuri is going to meet with Mark Hawkins while there.

we will have to see if he catches a plane south. Lenny and Mark are at opposite ends of the state. IIRC

[Rayosunshine]

Aha, interesting, KING MERCK as in the pharmacologic Merck?? The Giant Drug industry of Merck???? :eek:

Good catch Jenny.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[kakax]

Well, I do like LP. I was disappointed when he left FL. Apparently, he is a good BH. I had hoped that he really could help to find Caylee. I also felt that there was real security in the Anthony's neighborhood when Lenny & Co were there around the clock. The new BGs can't begin to compare.
Evidently, Yuri Melich thinks LP has something to offer. :shrug:



Which is something I really don't understand. Why would Yuri fly to California, when a phone call could take care of any questions? I think its weird. I guess add it to the long list of weirdness in this case.

[Joan Weiss]

I did. It was about her not being mirandized before the interview. NG claimed that she was and that she had a signed copy of the miranda form and she assumed that Casey could read. I had read somewhere that Casey had signed that form before her first interview in her home. JMO and stand to be corrected.Yep. She also agreed to go with them to Universal. They didn't force her to go. imo

[Pruddennce]

Interesting, Pru. July 3rd is also the date Cindy wrote the "distraught mood" dialog about missing Caylee.

Also, IIRC, sometime between July 2-July 5th is when Casey spent the night with Amy when Casey convinced Amy of sleepwalking. Amy was missing some cash. Did Amy inquire of Casey where Caylee was? It's never been mentioned anywhere that I'm aware of.

yes you are right tiny. July 3rd is when Jessee G gets a heads up from casey not to take calls from her parents and Cindy is lamenting on the web.

yes, Casey was with Amy when Tony was out of town (which is wierd as anything)....she stayed for several days.

I would have to go read back Amy's statement, because Casey told every single witness, it seems, some story or whatever, where Caylee was.....with the nanny off having fun in different locales.

Mark Hawkins.....not sure what his connection is to her...how did she know him...why was she communicating with him...

seems that Casey really dug her heals into people who had 'real lives'....and never got the cue to do something about her own....

thats why I dont think he is significant other than another venue for Casey to perform...and tell her lies...

sooooooooooooooooo many stories....and the funny thing is, friends were saying she was a liar....they knew she spun tails, but the magnitude of a missing child situation....whewwww...this most certainly stunned them...

considering she was out and about acting 'normal'...

I cant imagine being these 'friends'...looking back on insignificant comings and goings of her.....with or without her daughter...they had lives, they didnt care what she was doing...

and their lives are so different from her's....school and jobs for starters...

best regards,
Pru

[BobbysGirl]

I would have cracked by now if I was anyone in this family.

None of this is healthy or makes one happy.

The constant wash, rinse, repeat, of Casey being there one day, and gone the next, arrested. The lies. The protesters. The madness.

Could have stuck a fork in me a long time ago.

I so very much agree. I can't post rehash, wash and rinse and do it all over again. It is getting old.

I hope Casey gets stuck with bond again plus the piddly squat. She does not deserve to get out of jail. If another one comes along and posts like last 2 times I will :puke:.

I hope Judge revokes bail bonds all together in her hearing in the morn. Then, Casey can sit and pluck her eyebrows, paste a smile on her face and sit on her throne and wishes her sh** don't stink.

I am fed up to the limit. Disgusts me to no end that she gets away with what she is. Sorry for rant. Her days are numbered IMO.

Caylee needs to come home. NOW!

[Rayosunshine]

Is this the King Merk connection? I still wonder about one of the first visitors to see casey, that she supposedly did not even know who he was, then suddenly she remembers. This dude is telling her how they are there for her and Rick or someone says Hi. Just too hinky.

First arrest IIRC Heck, I can't find jailhouse video hammer <----Me


Wasn't that Patrick Bourgeois? He just "came out of the woodwork".

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[shelbar53]

Has casey really maintained a group of friends for more than several months. Seems like she goes through them pretty quick. She meets new people, becomes very attached..then I bet she gradually steals from them and lies about everything...the friends finally catch on then just exclude her so she moves on to other victems, oops i mean friends. I bet when she sleeps with the men she steals money out of theirr wallets and they dont realize until the next day but by then its to late. so she moves on from man to man stealing money from them...while they shower. I wonder how many past friends went to the police with stories of money missing and lies she has told that we dont even know about.

[KKKKKKatie]

Which is something I really don't understand. Why would Yuri fly to California, when a phone call could take care of any questions? I think its weird. I guess add it to the long list of weirdness in this case.


The only thing that makes sense is that LE wants a sworn statement from him

[dixie77]

My Dream ending scenario:

1. LE has all the DNA evidence they need to convict Casey.

2. LE has little Caylee's remains and DNA have proven it. (I didn't want this, but now that we pretty much know it's true, I want her at peace.)

3. Yuri is flying out to CA to get the final keys to nail it down which are info from LP that they gathered from a "bug" in the house while they were here and to get a statement from Mark, the Marine who Casey confessed to online and was heading out to stay with him. (LP said tonight on NG that LE needs to visit with him because if she would have ever trusted anyone to tell the truth to, it is him.)

4. Casey is convicted of murdering her baby girl and Caylee is brought home to rest where many will visit her showing her how loved she is.

I like my scenario. I'm hoping it's all true but .............. we will know soon. JMHO MOO
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A beautiful scenario. One question......if Casey confessed something to Mark on the computer, wouldnt LE have already confiscated that info from her computer?

[kakax]

How in the world did she think she could pull this off and not get caught:shrug: she needs to be on the show the worlds dumbest criminals.



I just think that after years of having your parents bail you out (like with the GPs money), you don't think you will ever get caught. If you do, you lie your way out of it.

[Rayosunshine]

California trip: As long as Yuri Melich is meeting with Padilla, I'm sure he'll be meeting with Hawkins as well.

Think maybe Padilla has already met with Hawkins and that's why Melich was summoned to Calif?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Joan Weiss]

Which is something I really don't understand. Why would Yuri fly to California, when a phone call could take care of any questions? I think its weird. I guess add it to the long list of weirdness in this case.You can't get a written, dated, timed, signed statement over the phone. Not weird at all. Didn't you notice all those statements written by the witnesses themselves in the docus?

[g jacks]

Can someone catch me up on the latest with the "Help find Caylee" fund that was set up at Sun Trust bank, which is now closed? I'm just wondering if there is any way that this fund could have been closed and the money transferred to the bogus "Defense fund" set up for Casey. Seems suspicious and disturbing that all of this money has been donated to this cause and the thought that it is even plausible that it could be going toward defending Casey.

[kakax]

The only thing that makes sense is that LE wants a sworn statement from him


That makes sense. I was think that a sworn statement could be made and faxed or whatever needed to be done. I'm no lawyer obviously lol!!

[rosejustrose]

<snip>
they sacrificed the innocent Caylee for the arrogant Casey.....

And in so doing, IMO, they sacrificed their souls.:(

[Pruddennce]

there is an entire thread about it on the WS board. Yuri is flying to California on Thursday to meet LP. That part has been verified by the site owner. Speculation is that Yuri is going to meet with Mark Hawkins while there.

thanks bluegal...so this is just speculation.....LE has not provided the press via a direct quote that Yuri is going to California....right?

best regards,
Pru

[dixie77]

Does anyone remember (on the tapes) was Caseys rights read to her before they started questioning her? I dont remember hearing them do this on the tape. JMO

[martha]

I never said Cindy caused it, but her actions have not helped in bringing Caylee home, and that is what I disagree with and the reason I have no sympathy for Cindy, George or Lee.hammerITA with you. everyone needs to rem that caylee is the one we need to be praying for . she is a child the other or adults and can take care of them selfs but poor little caylee could not. Caylee is the one I am worried about and caylee is the one I wish was found. Caylee is the one that the truth needs to come out about.She is the one that matters in this case.jmho:rose:

[rosejustrose]

Yep. She also agreed to go with them to Universal. They didn't force her to go. imo


Actually, IMO, she wanted to go with them. You know, show them her office, get the other phone off her desk, conduct her backward investigation into finding Caylee by giving her picture to security. No, Casey was there of her own free will. JMHO.

[concernedmom]

Casey's bond amount is only $1250 I believe. She will not lose her previous larger bond with this arrest.

So they only have to pay $125 to get her out?

[Kathlb]

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A beautiful scenario. One question......if Casey confessed something to Mark on the computer, wouldnt LE have already confiscated that info from her computer?


You're right, it must have been a phone call. :)

[Rebel Rouzer]

Does anyone remember (on the tapes) was Caseys rights read to her before they started questioning her? I dont remember hearing them do this on the tape. JMO

I never HEARD it but NG is insisting she signed the paper before the taping began. I don't know.

[KKKKKKatie]

That makes sense. I was think that a sworn statement could be made and faxed or whatever needed to be done. I'm no lawyer obviously lol!!

I would think he wants to question him himself....he knows the case inside out and wouldn't want to leave it to local LE :shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

Ok I thnk I just about want to crack. Where Are Caylee's blue crocks? I wonder if they are missing too, she wears them a lot. So where are her blue shoes? I have little pink ones, they are my coop shoes. Do you think this family could produce her blue crocks? Or should the searchers, be searching for them specifically. :shrug:

Wasn't there a little girl sighting at one of the airports and it was reported she was wearing blue crocks? I wonder if that pic of Caylee in her blue crocks was all over the media before that sighting?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[OneUp]

your welcome jennyanydots...

her poster clearly shows beautiful hazel eyes...hazel sometimes morphs over, but its usually a light brown, green, mixes.....sorry people I dont buy Cindy's faux pas when it comes to a beloved grandaughter and the color of her eyes....

I mean, whats up with that? saying BIG BROWN EYES when the poster clearly says hazel...

where has it been stated that LE is going to see Mark Hawkins?

best regards,
PruI agree Pru...this case seems rife with instances where there is a distinct lack of accurate details about Caylee that should be easy to recall and about other things like a descripton of the alleged perp. Even more disturbing is the attention to detail regarding some of the most mundane things, things either irrelevant to the case ( as far as we know) or things no one expects the "players" to remember in detail ( George's descriptions are heavy in this as are Casey's).
One of the marks of a liar IMO...as are the over use of those confidence promoting terms...'absolutely, truely, specifically, for certain, etc.'...
From my perspective and experience the cues have been obvious all along.
The truth is simple to remember and real memories do not require embellishments to ring true.
JMO.

[Bluegal]

thanks bluegal...so this is just speculation.....LE has not provided the press via a direct quote that Yuri is going to California....right?

best regards,
Pru

From what I understand it is a fact that Yuri is headed to California to meet with LP- owner of WS site confirmed this herself.

The speculation is over the marine guy --- will Yuri see him on his visit? Is he the main reason for Yuri's visit? etc.

[dixie77]

I never HEARD it but NG is insisting she signed the paper before the taping began. I don't know.
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I hope Nancy is right. I would sure hate to hear that all that testimony would be thrown out the window.

[KKKKKKatie]

thanks bluegal...so this is just speculation.....LE has not provided the press via a direct quote that Yuri is going to California....right?

best regards,
Pru


Hi Pru....

I haven't read over there today but I do know they have been emailing wioth Yuri so maybe that is where it came from :shrug:

Caylee on Greta up next

[desmom]

:lol: "Dakota is the one who calls the Anthonys constantly."

Grandma, get a clue!

http://www.local6.com/video/17338745/index.html was posted August 29.

The reporter said "(she) talks to the family almost daily". The girl wholeheartedly believed Caylee was alive. When she heard the report the media reporting Caylee might be dead, she was hospitalized with a stress related illness.

This is a 12 year old girl that took it upon herself to organize a vigil for Caylee. http://osceolanow.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2177&Itemid=6

IMO, 12 year old little girls still believe in fairy tales and happily ever afters. I can understand how devasted she must have been when she heard on the news Caylee might be dead. It was a hard way to learn life is not always happily ever after.

My heart goes out to her and I am so sorry she had to be another victim of this whole mess.

imo, jmo and a moo for good measure.

[rosejustrose]

Does anyone remember (on the tapes) was Caseys rights read to her before they started questioning her? I dont remember hearing them do this on the tape. JMO

According to the 2 lawyers they did it on tape after the second interview. NG was quick to bring up that she had a copy of a signed miranda form executed before the first interview. FWIW.

[kakax]

You can't get a written, dated, timed, signed statement over the phone. Not weird at all. Didn't you notice all those statements written by the witnesses themselves in the docus?

I did. I wasn't thinking that that sort of thing needed to be done in person. I really don't know all the ins and outs of court processes.

Kakax <<<<< not an atty.

[StickyBeak]

Wasn't that Patrick Bourgeois? He just "came out of the woodwork".

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Yes, I believe it was a Patrick. So strange, he was one of the first visitors after caseys first arrest. I thought very odd since all visits had to be approved or Ok'd by CA, to have a visitor you supposedly did not every know but suddenly remembered! That Patrick reminded her how they were there for her and Rick said hello. I will have to find the tape and re listen. Maybe that was a warning, in code of course to CA to keep her trap shut and play by the script. JMO

[shelbar53]

I just think that after years of having your parents bail you out (like with the GPs money), you don't think you will ever get caught. If you do, you lie your way out of it.


I agree, her parents always bailed her out so she never understood the conquences of her actions. she really thought she could talk herself out of anything. she stole from amy and i bet she didnt think amy would press charges, noone ever pressed charges before. at the end of the interview i really think she thought she was off the hook and they would be off looking for the nanny, so i think her arrest came as a shock to her...what? why me? i told you it was zanny.

[bchand]

... and if they have their way, their daughter will do as little time as possible and will be free to walk among us again. Just what we need -- another sociopath on the loose.

Right now this is all about Caylee. But if George, Cindy and Lee get their way, at some point other people will again be at risk of Casey's evil.

I'm not sure which is more despicable -- the fact that the Anthonys sold their granddaughter down the river in order to 'save' Casey, or whether they think it's perfectly acceptable to have that female out and about among innocents again.

I hope the entire family is revealed for what they are, and charged accordingly.

Me too SayWhat ! That's the point I'm finally at. They KNOW what she did but want everyone to go away so they can just move on with their lives.

[msgatorslayer]

They were not on the tape and whether she was ever mirandized at all is questionable.

She wasn't under arrest. She was helping to find her Daughter.

[Joan Weiss]

your welcome jennyanydots...

her poster clearly shows beautiful hazel eyes...hazel sometimes morphs over, but its usually a light brown, green, mixes.....sorry people I dont buy Cindy's faux pas when it comes to a beloved grandaughter and the color of her eyes....

I mean, whats up with that? saying BIG BROWN EYES when the poster clearly says hazel...

where has it been stated that LE is going to see Mark Hawkins?

best regards,
PruThat's correct, Pru. I also recall Casey telling LE about Caylee's Hazel eyes, the brown flecks...

LE is going to see Lenny. It's being speculated that he may also see Hawkins, or Lenny may have some info about Hawkins. imo

[dixie77]

They were not on the tape and whether she was ever mirandized at all is questionable.

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Oh Lord

[LordMisRule]

Does anyone remember (on the tapes) was Caseys rights read to her before they started questioning her? I dont remember hearing them do this on the tape. JMO

I don't remember any articles that I've read say anything about her rights being read to her. I do remember hearing the detectives asking at least twice, if what she's stated in the past, and will state in the current interview, if she was telling the truth. And, if she wanted to change anything she's said, she'd better do it now (when she was asked about the truthfullness). To which she responded that yes, everything she's stated is the truth, and she didn't want to change anything.

[OneUp]

Looks like the Anthony neighborhood is getting a good nights sleep tonight.I'm glad to hear the neighbors are being blessed with a peaceful night. Now, weren't there naysayers on this board who were certain that the demonstrators would stay whether or not Casey was in residence? Own up...LOL. J/K!
Did I miss something? Maybe the police have chased the demonstrators out or something?...really, I'm asking if I did miss something that is preventing them from being there.

[summer4meplz]

I believe Lenny had the Anthony's house bugged. I believe he knows wayyyyy more than he is saying. He has been a BH for thirty years. He has met liars of all shapes and sizes. I hope that their meeting goes well and that he does have information that will bring Caylee home.

jmo

wow, listening to the ng rerun....i wish ng would shut up and let lenny finish what he was starting to say about william waters....

[rosejustrose]

Goodnight All! Remember the Day of Peace for Caylee starts at midnight tonight!!!

Peace out!

[concernedmom]

Casey, Cindy, Caylee, Hopkins, Hawkins, TonE, Tony. Gosh. Im ready for some new names.

[bchand]

Yes, I believe it was a Patrick. So strange, he was one of the first visitors after caseys first arrest. I thought very odd since all visits had to be approved or Ok'd by CA, to have a visitor you supposedly did not every know but suddenly remembered! That Patrick reminded her how they were there for her and Rick said hello. I will have to find the tape and re listen. Maybe that was a warning, in code of course to CA to keep her trap shut and play by the script. JMO

It's here on the list of videos on the right side. Scroll way down to the one titled "jailhouse visitor".

http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

[overflow123]

Hello Everyone I just wanted to say Hi also I have been seeing what is going on. I have been sick today with the flu and yesterday but got a flu shot today and tomarrow back to school I will join the peace for Caylee and I send a prayer for her and I pray that we have a good day tomarrow

[kakax]

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Oh Lord

Nancy said she had a signed miranda rights paper. I don't know what paper she is talking about or what date or time it was signed.

She wasn't under arrest yet. Once again, I am not an atty...but don't they read your rights once you are arrested?

[KKKKKKatie]

She wasn't under arrest. She was helping to find her Daughter.


that is what I don't get??? Why would they read her her rights when they were there to search for Caylee.

Does everyone who thalks to LE have to be read their rights first?

[OneUp]

Not that I can recall. I've been looking but the only reference to shoes is when Casey claims Caylee called her and talked about shoes. I'm trying to find George's statement about what they were wearing. I'm guess I've been reading too much today. Probably best to call it a night and start fresh tomorrow. Dang those little blue shoes. JMO.IMO, those little things like the shoes...Cindy saying her eyes are brown ( not hazel...even if they LOOK brown, a grandmother should know them to be hazel, right?), little slipups in Casey's story..these are the things that unravel the bigger truths in a case.
I think a detective must be an expert at seeing between the lines and around the corners of the "story".
JMO.

[Bluegal]

Hi Pru....

I haven't read over there today but I do know they have been emailing wioth Yuri so maybe that is where it came from :shrug:

Caylee on Greta up next

Katie -

There is an entire thread posted about Yuri's trip. Trisha confirmed it.

[concernedmom]

It's here on the list of videos on the right side. Scroll way down to the one titled "jailhouse visitor".

http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html


Maybe Rick is one of the cops that had sex with her.:shrug:

[KKKKKKatie]

MORE COPS? Do you have a link? I just can't believe what they see in this sl(t.....

last page of the links thread INC :seeya:

[shelbar53]

there is the link about other officers she was seeing. but if i were you i would wait for the movie, Casey does Orlando




http://http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html (http://http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html)

[Pruddennce]

From what I understand it is a fact that Yuri is headed to California to meet with LP- owner of WS site confirmed this herself.

The speculation is over the marine guy --- will Yuri see him on his visit? Is he the main reason for Yuri's visit? etc.

I dont understand how a web owner can confirm a visit by LE to another state...seems like its a rumour?

well, if its true, its a positive effort.

best regards,
Pru

[KKKKKKatie]

Katie -

There is an entire thread posted about Yuri's trip. Trisha confirmed it.


Thanks Blue....I know they are good about that. I figured they would. I am just to tired to go to more than one place tonight LOL

[Rebel Rouzer]

last page of the links thread INC :seeya:


Should we just start calling Casey Jiffy? :biggrin:

[KKKKKKatie]

I dont understand how a web owner can confirm a visit by LE to another state...seems like its a rumour?

well, if its true, its a positive effort.

best regards,
Pru

they have been emailing with him Pru

[KKKKKKatie]

Should we just start calling Casey Jiffy? :biggrin:

Amazing isn't she? George and Cindy should be so proud of her :rolleyes:

lol

[g jacks]

that is what I don't get??? Why would they read her her rights when they were there to search for Caylee.

Does everyone who thalks to LE have to be read their rights first?


Good point!!!
I don't think they did KKKKKatie. IIRC, Yuri mentioned that after questioning Casey at Universal, they went back to the station and asked her a final time if she wanted to change anything about her story. Was the read her rights and off she went. IIRC, Jb made a stink about this at the bond hearing saying that Casey had nothing to hide because she was so willing to spit out all this info without even asking to speak to a lawyer. Then made a fuss about them taking her to the station to resume the "interrogation", Yuri corrected him that they didn't question her at police station, only clarified the statements that she made were what she wanted to stick with.

[st777jo]

Pebbles, I hope you don't mind. I brought this over.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pebbles View Post
I cannot feel any sympathy for Cindy. Protecting Casey is not bringing Caylee home. Lying for Casey is not bringing Caylee home. Hiring a high priced defense attorney is not bringing Caylee home. Having a public relations "phony" speak for you is not bringing Caylee home. Demanding the public, media and LE search for Caylee, instead of demanding Casey tell what happened, is not bringing Caylee home. Making money off of an innocent little child by collecting money for interviews and pictures is not bringing Caylee home.


I get so upset when I see people walking up to the house and telling Cindy they support her because they seem to have forgotten that because of the Anthonys, Casey is home and Caylee is not!!!! This family knows what happened to Caylee, and they are the ones, along with Casey, that are responsible for that little angel still being missing. If the family has their way, little Caylee will never be found.

These people that walk up to the Anthonys and give Cindy a big hug, which Cindy wants to make sure is in front of the news cameras, are just giving Cindy and her family all the more reason to go on with their lies. If Cindy, George and Lee truly wanted Caylee to come home they will stop defending Casey and begin demanding answers from her. Come on, they are the parents, stop protecting Casey and begin getting tough with her.

It appears to me that Cindy and her family want to be seen as the victims in all of this, and that will never bring Caylee home.


The only sympathy that I have is for Caylee, she is the one that needs it and is still missing. I am not going to waste my sympathy on the Anthony family and apparently the Anthonys and Casey have more important things to do than looking for Caylee, like pulling weeds, high fives and big smiles.



Caylee we have not forgotten you!!

[desmom]

I don't remember any articles that I've read say anything about her rights being read to her. I do remember hearing the detectives asking at least twice, if what she's stated in the past, and will state in the current interview, if she was telling the truth. And, if she wanted to change anything she's said, she'd better do it now (when she was asked about the truthfullness). To which she responded that yes, everything she's stated is the truth, and she didn't want to change anything.


Wouldn't her hand written sworn statement also be admissible? TIA

[Rayosunshine]

Yes, I believe it was a Patrick. So strange, he was one of the first visitors after caseys first arrest. I thought very odd since all visits had to be approved or Ok'd by CA, to have a visitor you supposedly did not every know but suddenly remembered! That Patrick reminded her how they were there for her and Rick said hello. I will have to find the tape and re listen. Maybe that was a warning, in code of course to CA to keep her trap shut and play by the script. JMO

I think you may be right about keeping her trap shut. What I think Patrick was really saying was, we are watching and listening.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[dixie77]

that is what I don't get??? Why would they read her her rights when they were there to search for Caylee.

Does everyone who thalks to LE have to be read their rights first?
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Wasnt she arrested before they went to Universal?

[Bluegal]

I dont understand how a web owner can confirm a visit by LE to another state...seems like its a rumour?

well, if its true, its a positive effort.

best regards,
Pru

Pru --
You can go read the thread - looks legit to me.

[desmom]

MORE COPS? Do you have a link? I just can't believe what they see in this sl(t.....

About 1/2 way down the page... http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

[Rayosunshine]

She wasn't under arrest. She was helping to find her Daughter.

Would that mean they couldn't use the tapes in a trial?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[msgatorslayer]

That's all good then until they try to enter them into trial.

:lol:It's not like she confessed!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!

[barskin&co.]

MORE COPS? Do you have a link? I just can't believe what they see in this sl(t.....

Oh, Mel, what a soap opera!

OFFICERS ALLEGEDLY ADMIT TO SEX WITH CASEY

Casey Anthony is reportedly causing a stir inside the Orlando Police Department. An inside source told Eyewitness News at least two officers have stepped forward claiming to have had sexual relationships with her.

In august, Anthony Rusciano was fired from his position as an Orange County deputy for lying about his relationship with Casey.

A police spokesperson refused to comment on any aspect of the Caylee Anthony case.


http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

[OneUp]

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A beautiful scenario. One question......if Casey confessed something to Mark on the computer, wouldnt LE have already confiscated that info from her computer?It is possible that Casey contacted Mark on a third party computer ( other friends, library, coffe shop...).
I'm not sure if they would have to retrieve his hard drive in person or not. Maybe they want to interview him in person? If they feel he is not being totally forthcoming that might be a factor, or they might wish to rule that out.
I had also felt that Casey may have intended to tell Mark he was Caylee's father . Bear in mind that I have no idea for certain if they even knew each other that long, but my instincts lead me that way FWIW. NOW, that would not mean he was in fact, but LE might be planning on doing some exclusionary DNA testing while they are at it. I know we've gone back and forth on whether or not Paternity is important to the case. Regardless of our opinions, I think it is important to LE. They did state they had contacted Ortiz's family and questioned them, and mention was made that his blood was stored from the acccident to prove there was no substance use involved ( I think that's why)...thus it was available for DNA testing too.
JMO.

[KKKKKKatie]

Good point!!!
I don't think they did KKKKKatie. IIRC, Yuri mentioned that after questioning Casey at Universal, they went back to the station and asked her a final time if she wanted to change anything about her story. Was the read her rights and off she went. IIRC, Jb made a stink about this at the bond hearing saying that Casey had nothing to hide because she was so willing to spit out all this info without even asking to speak to a lawyer. Then made a fuss about them taking her to the station to resume the "interrogation", Yuri corrected him that they didn't question her at police station, only clarified the statements that she made were what she wanted to stick with.

that is how I see it went down also. I don't know enough about the law to know if it is a problem or not :shrug:Guess we will find out eventually

[Joan Weiss]

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I hope Nancy is right. I would sure hate to hear that all that testimony would be thrown out the window.They arrested her after the wild goose chase. That chase is what made them arrest her. That was a search begun in earnest for her child. She wasn't arrested for murder, she was arrested for child neglect. The original charges came about because she lied to LE and she misled them. Why doesn't anyone understand that? How else do you investigate child neglect? :confused:

I think those THs are confused about that, hence this dramatic discussion on NG. Casey hasn't been charged with murder. imo

[KKKKKKatie]

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Wasnt she arrested before they went to Universal?


I don't think so...anybody???

[Pruddennce]

Pru --
You can go read the thread - looks legit to me.

when it relates to a criminal investigation, I like to see body movement, eyes blinking and lips moving.. animated gifs dont count :D

best regards,
Pru

[Rebel Rouzer]

I don't think so...anybody???

She was arrested right after that last interview.

[kakax]

You know that statement she made in the first interview about this is the story she is sticking with?

I have never used that phrase unless I'm trying to be funny and knowing I'm not telling the truth. (usually the other person is in on the joke)

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Don't know if that makes any sense.

[charm7]

Exuse me O/T :shrug:

Has anyone seen spiritwolf lately? I still haven't figured out these boards but I have been reading and not seeing her.
Anyone know if she's from the Texas area?

[kakax]

She was arrested right after that last interview.

They took her to the police station after that interview and arrested her after they gave her another chance to change her story.

[dixie77]

Would that mean they couldn't use the tapes in a trial?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom
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Hi Isabelle thats what i want to know, too.

[Joan Weiss]

Good point!!!
I don't think they did KKKKKatie. IIRC, Yuri mentioned that after questioning Casey at Universal, they went back to the station and asked her a final time if she wanted to change anything about her story. Was the read her rights and off she went. IIRC, Jb made a stink about this at the bond hearing saying that Casey had nothing to hide because she was so willing to spit out all this info without even asking to speak to a lawyer. Then made a fuss about them taking her to the station to resume the "interrogation", Yuri corrected him that they didn't question her at police station, only clarified the statements that she made were what she wanted to stick with.IIRC, they gave her TWO chances to change her statements. Both times she said that was the truth. imo

[Rayosunshine]

It's here on the list of videos on the right side. Scroll way down to the one titled "jailhouse visitor".

http://www.local6.com/news/17189131/detail.html

Really strange. Wonder if he had a connection with the LE's that Casey were involved with.

Has anyone tried to find out who Mike Walker is? Or, could the "M" "W" stand for someone else?

None of her other friends came to see her.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[summer4meplz]

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Oh Lord

Amen~!!!!!

[dixie77]

You know that statement she made in the first interview about this is the story she is sticking with?

I have never used that phrase unless I'm trying to be funny and knowing I'm not telling the truth. (usually the other person is in on the joke)

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Don't know if that makes any sense.
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Yes, Kakax makes perfect sense to me. She's showing her arrogance. JMO

[KKKKKKatie]

She was arrested right after that last interview.

TY :seeya:

[concernedmom]

Just blows my mind Casey saying she didnt trust cops then we find out at least 4 she slept with. Maybe they had to sleep with her to gain her trust?:shrug:

[kakax]

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Hi Isabelle thats what i want to know, too.


You can be sure the defense will try to get it thrown out. But she was given an opportunity to leave, the doors weren't locked, and she wasn't under arrest. They made it clear to her. I think it will be allowed in....

Kakax <<<< not an atty. so only MO

[Joan Weiss]

I dont understand how a web owner can confirm a visit by LE to another state...seems like its a rumour?

well, if its true, its a positive effort.

best regards,
PruCall Yuri and ask him? I recall that someone from a message board called him at 3AM a few weeks ago. imo

[kakax]

Call Yuri and ask him? I recall that someone from a message board called him at 3AM a few weeks ago. imo

I don't think that was this board...

[dixie77]

You can be sure the defense will try to get it thrown out. But she was given an opportunity to leave, the doors weren't locked, and she wasn't under arrest. They made it clear to her. I think it will be allowed in....

Kakax <<<< not an atty. so only MO
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So its pretty safe to say that the tapes wont be throw out?

[barskin&co.]

Call Yuri and ask him? I recall that someone from a message board called him at 3AM a few weeks ago. imo

And he must have been so pleased. :D

[johnielee333]

She didn't even pause when she laid out all those lies. When she stated that she was an event coordinator at Universal, there was no hesitation. That, to me, is absolutely scary. How in the world could she explain that lie to her family? She wasn't under duress when she was being questioned during that particular interview. Isn't there one sane person in her family?

lies come easy with people like casey.

[Joan Weiss]

That's all good then until they try to enter them into trial.The trial is for child neglect, not murder. Not yet, anyway. imo

[Rebel Rouzer]

Just blows my mind Casey saying she didnt trust cops then we find out at least 4 she slept with. Maybe they had to sleep with her to gain her trust?:shrug:


She trusts them to let them in her pants but not to help find her "taken" "Missing" daughter. Makes perfect sense. To Casey that is.

[Joan Weiss]

I can't believe how ya'all are going on about did you hear it - no you didn't - yes you did - no you didn't. Boy, some of us are really grumpy tonight that's that all we can talk about. Is it a full moon :)

Sorry for the rant, but I know we're all above that. If you listened to it cool for you. It shouldn't bother us in the least.

IMHO.Amen! :seeya:

[kakax]

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So its pretty safe to say that the tapes wont be throw out?


I would think they would be let in, but I see others here disagree. I really don't know.

[Rayosunshine]

She was arrested right after that last interview.

And that would be the point at which she would be informed of her right to have an attorney present, right? That would be the Miranda part.

So, since they may not be able to use any of this to try Casey, they released the tapes for all the world to hear.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Velouria]

Just blows my mind Casey saying she didnt trust cops then we find out at least 4 she slept with. Maybe they had to sleep with her to gain her trust?:shrug:


I don't trust cops...






who sleep with Casey.

[bchand]

I don't think that was this board...


Definitely not this board. I'll tell you, I've held out hope that this OCSD was doing a good job with this case and praying they had information that we had no clue about which will eventually convict this woman.

But, if a person from a message board can just pick up the phone and call Yuri and find out that he's going to CA ON Thursday to talk with LP, well that makes me just a little bit nervous. Why in the world would LE share this info?

[kakax]

And he must have been so pleased. :D

Can you imagine having the gaul to do that? Very disrespectful IMO.

[concernedmom]

I don't trust cops...






who sleep with Casey.

I dont either and cant help but wonder if any of them helped her.

[Acorn]

Call Yuri and ask him? I recall that someone from a message board called him at 3AM a few weeks ago. imo

Was that a stalker or did they want to tell him something pertaining to the case?

[Boxer]

casey, you understand this is being recorded?
yes
Do you have any objection to that?
no


she was not under arrest and gave her statements willingly...

[impartial]

I don't think so...anybody???


Any time there is a custodial interrogation, whether before or after arrest, they must inform her of her rights to remain silent and right to counsel.

Once they started confronting her with evidence ... ie we contacted Zenaida and she doesn't know you ... that is considered an interrogation.

While in the room, with the door closed at Universal ... is that considered custodial? Detaining is the same as custodial ... was she free to get up and walk out at any time during that interview? If the answer is yes, it isn't custodial. If the answer is no, then it is custodial.

IMO

[g jacks]

If she wasn't mirandized then the tapes won't be admissible in court.

If that's the case, which it may be, I doubt by the time they make it to court that these tapes are going to be the clincher to a murder charge. She gave a written statement saying the same thing, will that not be admissible in court?? Confused by all this. Seems like detectives with that much experience would dot the i's and cross the t's. IMO

[dixie77]

Definitely not this board. I'll tell you, I've held out hope that this OCSD was doing a good job with this case and praying they had information that we had no clue about which will eventually convict this woman.

But, if a person from a message board can just pick up the phone and call Yuri and find out that he's going to CA ON Thursday to talk with LP, well that makes me just a little bit nervous. Why in the world would LE share this info?
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I seriously doubt if that person called Yuri. People post all kinds of stupid things on message boards. JMO

[kakax]

Definitely not this board. I'll tell you, I've held out hope that this OCSD was doing a good job with this case and praying they had information that we had no clue about which will eventually convict this woman.

But, if a person from a message board can just pick up the phone and call Yuri and find out that he's going to CA ON Thursday to talk with LP, well that makes me just a little bit nervous. Why in the world would LE share this info?




I still don't get the reasoning for this trip. I would have assumed that LE would have "debriefed" him before he left. Unless something has come up since then.

[Rebel Rouzer]

The charges have no bearing on the admissibility of those tapes not being allowed in court without having first read her miranda rights.


She became a suspect after she admitted lying to them. That's when her rights should have been read to her. Not before.

[Joan Weiss]

Casey was not in custody. She was at US because she told the 911 operator that her child was missing and LE was trying to help her. She was not a suspect.

Notice LE reminding her that they are only there at her behest to help her find her child.Thank you. Good grief! Guess no one followed the Diane Downs case, or the Susan Smith case. Cripes, it's like everyone here is gulping TH kool aid. imo

[Joan Weiss]

She became a suspect after she admitted lying to them. That's when her rights should have been read to her. Not before.Thank you. :seeya:

[Rayosunshine]

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Hi Isabelle thats what i want to know, too.

Give me a minute, I am going to ask my husband. He's gonna groan.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Joan Weiss]

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I seriously doubt if that person called Yuri. People post all kinds of stupid things on message boards. JMOYou just told me I need to get off here. hammer

Thanks. 'nite.

[summer4meplz]

Just blows my mind Casey saying she didnt trust cops then we find out at least 4 she slept with. Maybe they had to sleep with her to gain her trust?:shrug:

How far back do I have to go to find out about the others cops she has slept with? tia....it's been a long day ...

[Boxer]

How far back do I have to go to find out about the others cops she has slept with? tia....it's been a long day ...

one was an ex boyfriend, the other was found out about a month ago...:seeya:

[Acorn]

casey, you understand this is being recorded?
yes
Do you have any objection to that?
no


she was not under arrest and gave her statements willingly...

Exactly. Just the same as Amy, Ricardo, etc. giving their statements to help LE find Caylee & determine when she was seen last, who she had been with in regard to a nanny...basic groundwork investigation. They didn't read any of them their rights, I'll bet ya.

[desmom]

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Wasnt she arrested before they went to Universal?

I don't think so. The arrest affidavit http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf reports Casey went with them to US at 12:30. After the meeting in the conference room at US, they went to the parking lot. LE pulled up pics of all the Zenaida Gonzales' in the DAVID system. Casey could not ID them.

From the above link:

"Once at our central operations center, and after I started receiving the above phone calls* reference the defendant and her child, the defendant was given one more opportunity to change her story. She did not. She was then placed under arrest for child neglect, and providing false information to us regarding this investigation."

above phone calls* - Amy, Tony, Jesse, Christine.

She was arrested at 16:33.

jmo

[bchand]

“Everything you've told us is a lie! Every single thing!” an investigator shouts at Anthony during questioning that took place on July 16"

At no time did it appear that the investigator was shouting at Casey. I think the opposite is true and they handled her with kid gloves. :confused:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26717490/

and Casey said Uh Huh. I wish we could see the video also. She NEVER sounded scared, worried or bothered by whatever they threw at her.

[dixie77]

Any time there is a custodial interrogation, whether before or after arrest, they must inform her of her rights to remain silent and right to counsel.

Once they started confronting her with evidence ... ie we contacted Zenaida and she doesn't know you ... that is considered an interrogation.

While in the room, with the door closed at Universal ... is that considered custodial? Detaining is the same as custodial ... was she free to get up and walk out at any time during that interview? If the answer is yes, it isn't custodial. If the answer is no, then it is custodial.

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If she was free to get up and walk out the door, would LE have left her go?

[Rayosunshine]

casey, you understand this is being recorded?
yes
Do you have any objection to that?
no


she was not under arrest and gave her statements willingly...

And once she was arrested and Mirandized she shut down.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[impartial]

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If she was free to get up and walk out the door, would LE have left her go?



Yes.

Personally, I think it was a custodial interrogation. They should have Mirandized her.

IMO