Monday, September 15th thread-Opening Statements

[aboe7830]

Hello, thought it was a good time to open this, ill be here all day

[aboe7830]

anyone around this morning?

[crystalclear]

Actually about to head to sleep. WOndering if it is going to be televised in all its glory?

[book]

Trial is starting today? Hope they televise it!

[AnnInOhio]

Hello, thought it was a good time to open this, ill be here all day

Thank you. Any update on what time opening statements begin or links to feeds?

[starbright]

Thank you. Any update on what time opening statements begin or links to feeds?



Morning All!! :seeya:

I received this e-mail last week. I don't know if y'all watched any of the Spector trial, but if you did you will remember Marta and Loni. Well, they are takin' on OJ:


Dear Starbright,


I have the greatest news!

Marta Waller, from KTLA,will be hosting the OJ Simpson trial with live feed on the internet, again!

In a late Monday afternoon conversation with Marta, she said that she had just been assigned to anchor the OJ Simpson burglary trial and believes that Loni Coombs will be along side her as they give us their legal commentary.

Be sure to sign up, at KTLA, and ask your questions about the trial while chatting with us at Jurorthirteen!

Go to http://www.ktla.com/pages/main and click on Blogs & More. Then continue to the message boards and scroll down to "Trial Talk".

Commentary and live video will begin when opening statements begin.

Spread the news!!!

Cloey and Owize1

[starbright]

Addendum:

If you go to the above site. Click on NEWS, scroll down to OJ Simpson, then it will open and you can click there to watch the trial live starting at 8 AM (I am sure that is LA time). Enjoy.

[dref99]

KTLA says live coverage beginning at 8am

http://www.ktla.com/pages/ojsimpson

Sorry Starbright - you have said that already - I just read the 9am from the next post

[ellvarn]

I never thought I would be here on an OJ thread drinking my morning coffee. I posted on the "Daily Discussion" thread that it makes me want to barf

But I am glad to say good morning to all my fellow posters. And I will be watching with y'all.

Good Morning - :seeya:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I never thought I would be here on an OJ thread drinking my morning coffee. I posted on the "Daily Discussion" thread that it makes me want to barf

But I am glad to say good morning to all my fellow posters. And I will be watching with y'all.

Good Morning - :seeya:

Mornin K-9 and all!..Pleased to see there will be more than CNN live streaming this circus...I think CN has drained any mojo I had left by the last trial they streamed!!!!

We maybe should be specific when posting times here as it does get confusing to some..KTLA seems will be up and running at 8AM..but that is PST not EST....Just need to refresh my memory..Is that 3 or 4 hours difference??Help my morning coffee hasnt kicked in yet!!!:punch:

LMS

[Lyndawitha"Y]

That is 3 hrs. I just signed up for KTLA blog. It wouldn't let me be Snowbird - apparently that board thinks that's a dirty word; so I'm Justcurious if you see me there.

Thanks Snow..I signed up there way back when, {PS Trial} and my nic is ..yu guessed it..Lyndawitha-y..but cant remember my password??.LOL I guess I better get that straightened out, huh?

LMS

[Fallen Angel]

Morning All!! :seeya:

I received this e-mail last week. I don't know if y'all watched any of the Spector trial, but if you did you will remember Marta and Loni. Well, they are takin' on OJ:


Dear Starbright,


I have the greatest news!

Marta Waller, from KTLA,will be hosting the OJ Simpson trial with live feed on the internet, again!

In a late Monday afternoon conversation with Marta, she said that she had just been assigned to anchor the OJ Simpson burglary trial and believes that Loni Coombs will be along side her as they give us their legal commentary.

Be sure to sign up, at KTLA, and ask your questions about the trial while chatting with us at Jurorthirteen!

Go to http://www.ktla.com/pages/main and click on Blogs & More. Then continue to the message boards and scroll down to "Trial Talk".

Commentary and live video will begin when opening statements begin.

Spread the news!!!

Cloey and Owize1

TY TY........i really do like Marta and Loni a lot. I hope this trials over before the Spector one starts.

[johnielee333]

i hope the jury finds OJ guilty.

[AnnInOhio]

As he should be. O.J. has the perfect appeal already unfortunately. No African Americans on the jury.

imo

:flamemad:

Wasn't that the defense's choice? My understanding was that the judge normally, and in this case, wanted ALL of the jurors - including the 2 black alternates - to sit as jurors and to have the alternates picked after the trial prior to deliberation, meaning that OJ COULD have potentially had two black jurors. Am I misunderstanding this?

[AnnInOhio]

i hope the jury finds OJ guilty.

Are you really not even interested in what evidence the jury bases their decision on?

[janigirl]

i hope the jury finds OJ guilty.


WOW! without even hearing opening statments, and he's gonna get a fair trial.? Now that makes me wanna barf

[Lyndawitha"Y]

WOW! without even hearing opening statments, and he's gonna get a fair trial.? Now that makes me wanna barf

I am with you on the wonder there!..I think I would have voted differently if Honorable Elizabeth Halverson was the appointed Judge to this case:eek: I think Judge Glass will make sure its a fair trial!!

LMS

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning everyone! Looking forward to watching this trial with each and every one of you. I am relieved that Judge Jackie
Glass is presiding, she will rule this courtroom with an iron hand, eliminating all the potential nonsense from the defense team, imo.

If the evidence supports it, and I think it will, I am looking forward to seeing simpson going to jail for a long time. IMO. :patriot:

[AnnInOhio]

We are not the jury and we are here to post our thoughts and opinions - based on the information we have read already....and the years of watching this thug act up in public and in print since his NG verdict (not to be confused with innocence). THis fella thinks he is above the law and above the judgements against him. Many of us would like him to be corrected about that.


That said, if, after the fact, people want to opine on whether this jury's decision is "right or wrong" discerning what the jury hears and sees versus what is public knowledge makes a difference. That difference is legal justice versus vigilante justice.

[AnnInOhio]

"Vigilante" would indicate some action or power to actually do something - look it up. We are simply expressing our opinions. It does not affect the outcome of the trial - for instance; Spector would have been put away already if my opinion had any power.

True enough. Let's call it the verdict of public opinion?

[Cornblossom]

http://www.thelegaledge.com./ For live coverage...the chat doesn't look too great tho LMAO

[AnnInOhio]

That is what it is - and some of the public are here. I will say that OJ sincerely doesn't think he did anything wrong in this instance. (or maybe any other instance) I'm sure he always feels that he is just driven by circumstances to do the things he does. IE: If his women would just act right he wouldn't have the beat the *** out of them.

I wonder what would have happened if he had just asked for his stuff (without guns)?

Or even without a "posse". My guess is that he didn't want to argue about whose "stuff" it was - he knew where it came from. If OJ had a good argument he'd have followed the civil route suggested by law enforcement to Riccio.

[AnnInOhio]

Which was civil action. If he had followed that course then the civil judgement against him would have kicked in and he would lose the stuff - or the value of it - to his victims' families for sure.
He is not dumb. Well I don't know what is the right word - he's ignorant, but not dumb?:shrug:

I recall judge Glass having had the same problem coming up with the proper word to describe OJ's actions....

[Cornblossom]

Well, I'll be dammed. You are still alive. :seeya: Good to see you.

I plan to watch as much of this as I can. The jury make up is interesting.
:lol: This is my ghost LMAO Hi dunnie! I think Gale was complaining about the jury make up...one A/A and an alternate at that.

[Fallen Angel]

Good Morning Everyone................
nothing on my video yet :(

[Cornblossom]

I tried to do the Legal Edge thing. But I'm not seeing any coverage yet? Should I just wait, or do I have to log in etc? Get a password?

(I've missed you. :rose:)I don't know if you have to register to just watch but you do if you want to chat..and the group that is in there only chat with themself...no new people welcome into their "circle"...and the screen is teeny tiny I missed you too

[Lyndawitha"Y]

hey guys!

please for to give me a live link? TIA:seeya:

http://www.ktla.com/pages/livevideo_channelb

This the direct link on ktla..it's currently white with red X..but will be open son. hit refresh if still there..as now Loni and Marta are talking live

LMS

[Regina.Lampert]

I am watching and listening to Marta and Loni, both of them look great and it is with much appreciation that I report Marta's little rooster cowlick is slicked down.................lol. :tongue:

[tashi]

Has anyone heard how long they think this trial is going to take?

I'm watching Marta and Loni on KTLA...great to see them again

[Lyndawitha"Y]

:cuss:Is anyone else having problems keeping the stream going/..I have to keep refreshing.Sheeesh!!

LMS

[tashi]

:cuss:Is anyone else having problems keeping the stream going/..I have to keep refreshing.Sheeesh!!

LMS


This link is working great for me

http://www.ktla.com/pages/livevideo_channelb

[Cornblossom]

i never got the email from TLE after i registered. do i need to do it again?
you'll probably have to write and ask Michel....I don't know what to do about that.

[AnnInOhio]

But my main question is; did they do this with the sole intent of getting OJ busted. I have questions about that; and how this tape all came to be in the first place. I think there is a huge possibility that OJ was in a way, tricked into this situation; but he is so lame he fell for it. :no: Too bad so Sad!
I say....

Dots


I think clearly Riccio did just that. He set OJ up to watch him fall and OJ swallowed hook, line and sinker. He knew how OJ would react and by golly, he was right! The co-defendants were just OJ's chumps who followed him right into the trap.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

OJ actally looks nervous and puzzled...Hummmwonder if he is drawing on his past acting mode??..I think he should be nervous..but he has alot of experience in courtrooms..and behaviors..humm..Sorry to be so suspicious, but I just cant get past this guys activities of the past decade +!!

LMS

[Kara]

They are more difficult to read - for me anyway. Just posting to see if mine show up in bold also.It's only Jennyanydots posts that are in bold so I assume she is bolding them.

On the bright side, this might mean our letter b works again.

[Fallen Angel]

O M G LOOK AT OJ he cant stand to hear these charges READ!
Check him OUT! :D

Oh My.


wow he looks horrible lol

( loved it )

[Kara]

Oh....in this jurisdiction, jurors can ask questons. I love that!

[logbump]

http://www.knbc.com/videostream/10954229/detail.html
Another link if needed.

[tashi]

I'd be shaking in my boots listening to these charges

I think OJ thinks, Hey I just went and got my stuff...no big deal

[Fallen Angel]

It's only Jennyanydots posts that are in bold so I assume she is bolding them.

On the bright side, this might mean our letter b works again.
its wonderful to have our b back in use :D

[Lqqkout]

i hope the jury finds OJ guilty.

Why?? The trial hasn't even started.

[logbump]

Do you think she is going too fast for OJ?:lol:

[CourtsideVue]

<phew>
Impressive, Madame Clerk!

Thank goodness that reading of the charges is over. It was so redundant. I know it's necessary but jeeeez!

[Fallen Angel]

magic the dog :D

[CourtsideVue]

Hmmm ... I wonder what OJ is muttering under his breath. I could see his lips moving.

[Fallen Angel]

is OJ talking to himself?:eek:

[Lqqkout]

That should make it even more interesting. Why does Stewart have to be tried with OJ? Is it because he didn't plead out or turn state's witness like some of the others?

Because the state would not let him make a deal as the others did. Also state would not let him sever. The legal aspects of this trial will be very interesting.

[summer4meplz]

I think oj looks very very nervous...

[Fallen Angel]

Hmmm ... I wonder what OJ is muttering under his breath. I could see his lips moving.


uhhhhhhh huh he better start off with " The Lord in Heaven" lol

[dmh]

As he should be. O.J. has the perfect appeal already unfortunately. No African Americans on the jury.

imo

:flamemad:

question..If he is found guilty and want to appeal will he go to jail...or get out on bail? I hope he has as to stay in jail until he gets a new trial if this does happen.

[AnnInOhio]

Hmmm ... I wonder what OJ is muttering under his breath. I could see his lips moving.

Probably "Thank God Magic the dog didn't let out a plaintive wail after chewing the shoe..."

[Kara]

magic the dog :DIt's nice to hear a new explanation of circumstantial evidence other than the wet sidewalk. :)

[Fallen Angel]

I think oj looks very very nervous...

IMO he looks more nervous now then when he was in the murder trial

[Regina.Lampert]

LOL, Judge Jackie sure knows who she's dealing with here, love the carrier pigeon reference!!! :tongue:

[Fallen Angel]

It's nice to hear a new explanation of circumstantial evidence other than the wet sidewalk. :)

yes yes i agree

[lynbit]

Afternoon all! Just wondering which feed most are trying to follow. Ktla, LegalEdge (michel bryant) or TruTV. I can bring up the live feed on ktla, but I haven't found Loni yet. Just have to click around some more I guess.

[Fallen Angel]

I wish the jurors in the Spector case could have asked questions.

[Kara]

IMO he looks more nervous now then when he was in the murder trial
Over the last 15 years he has lost a lot of his "celebrity good will" IMO. Racism and good will were the reasons he got away with murder. He doesn't have either thing going for him this time around.

[tashi]

Afternoon all! Just wondering which feed most are trying to follow. Ktla, LegalEdge (michel bryant) or TruTV. I can bring up the live feed on ktla, but I haven't found Loni yet. Just have to click around some more I guess.


Loni and Marta come on the live feed when the court is in recess

[CourtsideVue]

I wonder if Sydney and Justin are in the courtroom, or how they feel about daddy now?

Anybody heard anything from either of them about this?

[Fallen Angel]

Over the last 15 years he has lost a lot of his "celebrity good will" IMO. Racism and good will were the reasons he got away with murder. He doesn't have either thing going for him this time around.

ITA :beer:

[Kara]

LOL, Judge Jackie sure knows who she's dealing with here, love the carrier pigeon reference!!! :tongue::)

Good morning Regina, it's good to see you here!

[CourtsideVue]

"...James Orenthal Simpson ..."
oopsie
:lol:

[lynbit]

Loni and Marta come on the live feed when the court is in recessThat's right! It's been a year since I've watched them on a trial. Thanks!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Over the last 15 years he has lost a lot of his "celebrity good will" IMO. Racism and good will were the reasons he got away with murder. He doesn't have either thing going for him this time around.

But there is an "Engineer" on the jury panel.!

LMS:punch:

[dmh]

So far I LOVE the pros opening statement:)

[Cait48]

into Judge's opening statements and O. J. is already shaking his head!!

I so totally doubt that he will be found guilty, yet again. But I so totally wish he would get pounded this time, once and for all.

And that would be all we hear from this idiot forever.

Why do these celebrities get away with their charges over and over?

Well, once again, I will be watching this whole trial.

Cait

[summer4meplz]

oj always gets so agitated when they are presenting damning evidence and starts whispering to his lawyers...

[Lyndawitha"Y]

oj always gets so agitated when they are presenting damning evidence and starts whispering to his lawyers...

I personally wont truly believe he is nervous until I see "Sweat" on his brow..as that is something you you cant feign!!

LMS:D

[tashi]

I hope the jury has transcripts of these tapes...it's hard to hear imo

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I hope the jury has transcripts of these tapes...it's hard to hear imo

Maybe I have been watching too much TV..but isnt there a way to cut out background noise in audio editing..I would just love to have all that background noise in that tape from the restaurant before the actual "Sting"..Just to hear the focal voices closest to the microphone..Humm, In my dreams maybe..but would be nice!!

LMS:D

[legalmania]

Loni and Marta come on the live feed when the court is in recess

I'm going to stick with InSession I get a lot more out of it even with commercials, after 3 I don't know.

[logbump]

The Livestream news raw feed has no commercials. Good audio.

[tashi]

I'm going to stick with InSession I get a lot more out of it even with commercials, after 3 I don't know.

I'm in Arizona and InSession is on a 3 hour delay here...grr

I had the same problem with watching the Spector trial, thank goodness for live streaming internet sites :)

[CourtsideVue]

I'm going to stick with InSession I get a lot more out of it even with commercials, after 3 I don't know.

You mean on TV?? I can't stand how they're always interrupting right in the middle of testimony. And for goodness sake, they close up shop at 3 pm (eastern time) while this court is going to run on until about 6 or 7 pm (eastern time). I think TruTv has really cheated us out of a lot by ending live coverage at 3 pm. Giving us little clips the following day just doesn't cut it for me. I'm wishing we had live coverage until at least 5 pm (eastern) even if that means we have to put up with the likes of Nancy Grace or someone equally annoying.

[dmh]

I don't wan to miss anything about the oj trial. I live on the east coast and for some reason I can not get live streaming..can some one pm me on what I need. I have a laptop. thanks.
I want to see oj sweat...and he will!

[Cait48]

Simpson also smiles to himself and is talking and muttering under his breath to himself--and not to his lawyers--just to himself--I have noticed that for a long time now--whassup with that?

Many times he does whisper to his lawyers but many other times just mutters to himself. You can see his lips moving like he is talking to himself.

Is he planning his next lie?

Is he showing signs of dementia?

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Looking forward to when the witnesses take the stand and from what I gather Defense is going to really try to dirty up their reputations..To me that is somewhat counter-intuitive..as these are the same guys OJ has been associating with for years!..What does that tell you about OJ?..I'd say, in many ways, we are judged by the company we keep!

I think thats why the description by the Pros. of all these people is very important to take all the testimonies in CONTEXT.

LMS

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I don't wan to miss anything about the oj trial. I live on the east coast and for some reason I can not get live streaming..can some one pm me on what I need. I have a laptop. thanks.
I want to see oj sweat...and he will!

Try thus one..I had to give up on ktla..and I am using a laptop today too



http://www.cnn.com/video/live/live.html?stream=stream1

LMS

[legalmania]

I wonder if Sydney and Justin are in the courtroom, or how they feel about daddy now?

Anybody heard anything from either of them about this?

OJ right now is innocent until the jury say he's guilty. I wish everybody would keep an open mind watch the case and after closing statement come to a conclusion.

[CourtsideVue]

I don't wan to miss anything about the oj trial. I live on the east coast and for some reason I can not get live streaming..can some one pm me on what I need. I have a laptop. thanks.
I want to see oj sweat...and he will!

http://www.ktla.com/pages/livevideo_channelb
This one is working great for me.

[CourtsideVue]

OJ right now is innocent until the jury say he's guilty. I wish everybody would keep an open mind watch the case and after closing statement come to a conclusion.

You quoted me, and I in no way stated that I thought he was guilty. I just wondered about his kids, that's all.

[Fallen Angel]

OMG OJ talking to himself is getting on my last nerve now. :cuss:

[legalmania]

You quoted me, and I in no way stated that I thought he was guilty. I just wondered about his kids, that's all.

O.K. his kids think he's innocent of course. I apologize for using your quote. Don't mean to offend anyone.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

You quoted me, and I in no way stated that I thought he was guilty. I just wondered about his kids, that's all.

I noticed that too and glad you addressed that..I didnt want to put words into your mouth..LOL:rose:

LMS

[CourtsideVue]

O.K. his kids think he's innocent of course. I apologize for using your quote. Don't mean to offend anyone.

They do? Have they made public statements? I know Sydney has had "issues" with OJ in the past, that's why I was wondering what their feelings are with their dad being in trouble again. And I'm still curious whether they're in the courtroom or not.

[FrankieBones1]

Hello, thought it was a good time to open this, ill be here all day

This opening is going to take awhile. The Deputy D.A. is covering this in chronological order and touching on so many important facts.

Great job, Mr. Owens!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

OJ right now is innocent until the jury say he's guilty. I wish everybody would keep an open mind watch the case and after closing statement come to a conclusion.

OJ should feel very fortunate he is being tried in USA..as if this case were happening in Britain..he would be guilty until and unless disproven to be so..

LMS:shrug:

[FrankieBones1]

They do? Have they made public statements? I know Sydney has had "issues" with OJ in the past, that's why I was wondering what their feelings are with their dad being in trouble again. And I'm still curious whether they're in the courtroom or not.

I would think that they are old enough now to have read the papers and watched the news accounts on the case. They've got to know he is guilty by now although maybe supporting him because he is their Dad. I hope they aren't too embarassed.

[FrankieBones1]

while listening to the pros - and I'm missing Jamie's last word. Oh too too bad!;)

Is In Session covering this on TV?

[FrankieBones1]

I noticed that too and glad you addressed that..I didnt want to put words into your mouth..LOL:rose:

LMS

Hi, Lynda! Long time no post with. How long is this trial supposed to last?

[llylabrat]

http://www.ktla.com/pages/livevideo_channelb
This one is working great for me.


will lonnie combs (?) or someone else be commenting on the trial on ktla?

[llylabrat]

Is In Session covering this on TV?

are they ever. lisa bloom had all the anchors on this morning. and they have a catchy name something like daily juice.

[CourtsideVue]

will lonnie combs (?) or someone else be commenting on the trial on ktla?

Yes, Loni Coombs and Marta Wallace. They were there before the live coverage started this morning.

[FrankieBones1]

anyone around this morning?
Not that early, I'm afraid. Glad to see a few of us following the trial.

I hear that if found guilty, OJ could get life.

[Fallen Angel]

will lonnie combs (?) or someone else be commenting on the trial on ktla?

marta waller and lonnie will both be there.

[llylabrat]

Yes, Loni Coombs and Marta Wallace. They were there before the live coverage started this morning.

oh good! i like their work in the specter trial.

[Kara]

This opening is going to take awhile. The Deputy D.A. is covering this in chronological order and touching on so many important facts.

Great job, Mr. Owens!
Hi Frankie! It's great to see you.:seeya:

It really is an impressive opening statement...he's putting together a solid story.

Watching OJ, I'm wondering if he's suffering the early stages of Alzheimers or dementia. Lots of the time he seems to be there....but sometimes his eyes just kind look like nobody's home or he's confused by what's going on.

Boy, Judge Glass sure can talk fast. lol

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Hi, Lynda! Long time no post with. How long is this trial supposed to last?

Hey Franki..It has been estimated to be about a month..give or take a week??..Who knows?..since Las Vegas has long days..that may just be accurate.

LMS.............Good to see you too!:rose:

[tashi]

Hi, Lynda! Long time no post with. How long is this trial supposed to last?


I heard Marta and Loni on KTLA this morning say that the trial is suppose to last 5 weeks

[FrankieBones1]

are they ever. lisa bloom had all the anchors on this morning. and they have a catchy name something like daily juice.

Llylabrat: Intermeresting! Thanks.

Hi, Fallen Angel. Good to see you, too. Can't wait for them to get to the evidence.

[Fallen Angel]

Not that early, I'm afraid. Glad to see a few of us following the trial.

I hear that if found guilty, OJ could get life.

I sure hope he is found guilty :D

[FrankieBones1]

I heard Marta and Loni on KTLA this morning say that the trial is suppose to last 5 weeks

Seems like way too long for a non-murder trial, right?

[CourtsideVue]

<snip>Watching OJ, I'm wondering if he's suffering the early stages of Alzheimers or dementia. Lots of the time he seems to be there....but sometimes his eyes just kind look like nobody's home or he's confused by what's going on.<snip>

Could it be that he's on medication? An anti-depressant or something that makes him appear a little less emotionally involved or whatever?

[FrankieBones1]

I sure hope he is found guilty :D

I have a feeling that jurors will not see him as a celebrity anymore but they will see him as infamous. I'm hoping they find him guilty, too. From all the evidence I've seen from last September, I think this jury will find him guilty as well.

[llylabrat]

ok, i know very little about this case. anyone have an opinion whether this is just the "al calpone" effect--trying to get oj in jail for this since they couldn't for the murder? is this a true armed robbery?

[FrankieBones1]

Hi Frankie! It's great to see you.:seeya:

It really is an impressive opening statement...he's putting together a solid story.

Watching OJ, I'm wondering if he's suffering the early stages of Alzheimers or dementia. Lots of the time he seems to be there....but sometimes his eyes just kind look like nobody's home or he's confused by what's going on.

Boy, Judge Glass sure can talk fast. lol

Hi, Doll! Could be, I suppose but I just think that he gets 'deep in thought' when not shaking his head at negative statements by Owens. Hard to tell.

[Kara]

Could it be that he's on medication? An anti-depressant or something that makes him appear a little less emotionally involved or whatever?
Yeah...that was what Loni and Marta were speculating...heavy meds. :)

[CourtsideVue]

ok, i know very little about this case. anyone have an opinion whether this is just the "al calpone" effect--trying to get oj in jail for this since they couldn't for the murder? is this a true armed robbery?

Well ... they went in that room armed with guns, ordered everyone against the wall, and took boxes of stuff out of the room. Sounds like an armed robbery to me.

I do wonder if this jury can *REALLY* be impartial, though.

[FrankieBones1]

ok, i know very little about this case. anyone have an opinion whether this is just the "al calpone" effect--trying to get oj in jail for this since they couldn't for the murder? is this a true armed robbery?

Very true. Armed robbery.
As for 'getting OJ back in prison', I would hope not. But if it happens, I'll be happy. Just so long as the jurors are convicting him of the current crimes and not murder.

[bearwds]

loved the opening statement!
****************

Agree Wendy. Amazing high-tech interwoven presentation.

On break now. Defense opening next.

Tuned into CNN for coverage as LA wasn't working too well.

Good morning to the olde faces and the new.


bearwds

[andersson33]

:seeya:

Well, it was a robbery, and they were armed, so I guess that's what it is.:)

The prosecution wouldn't have charged if they didn't feel they had a case against him, imo.

No doubt about it, there is a spillover effect from his being accused of the murders in Los Angeles -- but the jurors said they could get past that and look at the facts for *this* case alone, so we'll see how it goes down the road.

:seeya:

[tashi]

Seems like way too long for a non-murder trial, right?

I agree...seems to me it should be able to be wrapped up in a week or two but I'm sure it probably will take the 5 weeks that's projected. I think Loni said the prosecution has 25 witnesses lined up.

[CourtsideVue]

I'm on the KTLA feed. We are not getting "inside the courtroom coverage" right now. Are the other feeds carrying what the lawyers are discussing out of the presence of the jury?

[summer4meplz]

You quoted me, and I in no way stated that I thought he was guilty. I just wondered about his kids, that's all.

Did you hear about Arnelle's fight with oj quite recently...?

I have never heard anything about Justin, but I have heard about Sydney calling 911 because she hated her dad and he was being abusive...this was several years ago iirc

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Is M. Gilbert going to testify?..I doubt it, but would love to get the timeline of all THE STUFF that supposedly was taken/stolen from OJ?

LMS:shrug:

[Kara]

Back in session.

[Details]

Tapes proving exactly what was said, OJ's own words, attempting to make a witness change testimony - this is a slam dunk case. The level of the charges can be questioned, as I see it - but guilt - that's a given. He's right there on tape directing the robbery. And right there on tape trying to tell a witness to say there were no guns. Doesn't matter how he got to that point (although I don't think anyone other than OJ set OJ up - his buddy made a tape either for OJ, or because he wanted proof of what he did and did not do, or because he wanted to make some easy money - but OJ chose what he did).

[FrankieBones1]

Yale Galanter is up for the defence's opening statement. He tells the jurors what their sole duty is and tells them this is not a smear campaign nor is it about writing a book. It's about if the State (Mr. Owens) can prove what his client has been charged with.

[llylabrat]

heres streaming from the same people that did judge halverson? no lonie or marta tho:(

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/category.asp?C=5546&nav=menu102_1

[llylabrat]

las vegas now camera is following yale galanter instead of focusing on oj. already makes it better for me!

hmmm maybe not. they look the same now

[FrankieBones1]

I'm here, kinda sorta, am inspirit. Listened to Opening with Prosecution. Don't know if I'm ready for Gallanterhammer

He speaks well. I like him. I think it's because he was once on the good side of the courtroom. It's what he is saying that I cannot agree with. He names all the men involved and said that none of them planned on breaking the law. *laughing hysterically here*

[AnnInOhio]

las vegas now camera is following yale galanter instead of focusing on oj. already makes it better for me!

hmmm maybe not. they look the same now

Well, Yale started out convincing, darn it! But I still think he's wrong.

[legalmania]

You mean on TV?? I can't stand how they're always interrupting right in the middle of testimony. And for goodness sake, they close up shop at 3 pm (eastern time) while this court is going to run on until about 6 or 7 pm (eastern time). I think TruTv has really cheated us out of a lot by ending live coverage at 3 pm. Giving us little clips the following day just doesn't cut it for me. I'm wishing we had live coverage until at least 5 pm (eastern) even if that means we have to put up with the likes of Nancy Grace or someone equally annoying.

Actually In Session feed is faster than the net so what your hearing on the net I've already heard. I Will have to go on at 3 though. They will play a lot of what we miss when the courtroom is empty during lunch.

[Fallen Angel]

Well, Yale started out convincing, darn it! But I still think he's wrong.
imog Yale's crazy. IF OJ wanted his stuff back he should have asked the LE for help not get a group of people together with a gun and take care of himself.

[Fallen Angel]

STOLEN my butt..........if you don't pay your storage rent they SALE your stuff. :rolleyes:

[AnnInOhio]

Actually In Session feed is faster than the net so what your hearing on the net I've already heard. I Will have to go on at 3 though. They will play a lot of what we miss when the courtroom is empty during lunch.

I had to DVR the InSession feed. I'm recording the live off cnn, which you correctly point out is behind InSession.

[llylabrat]

lisa bloom said the goldmans would be on her show tuesday morning. where are they watching this trial from?

[Details]

It's a good opening by the defense. I don't believe he's correct - no matter how much you go to the FBI, that doesn't give you the right to pull guns on people, hold them in their hotel room, and grab stuff.

[Spring]

Loved the OS! It's about time that the justice system puts a stop to this menace to society.

[AnnInOhio]

STOLEN my butt..........if you don't pay your storage rent they SALE your stuff. :rolleyes:


What kind of friend of OJ would get tired of paying his storage fees to hide his stuff for him??? I love how Yale keeps yakking about the personal family photos and their sentimental value to OJ - that weren't what OJ stole back! There wasn't anything on the tape about OJ asking where his baby pictures are, was there?

[Heyes]

Good morning all!

Boy, OJ sure has his victim/innocent face going on for the jury. lol
Far cry from the mouth moving non stop, head shaking, rolling the eyes OJ we've all come to know and love, eh?

[Details]

And if those cameras deterred thieves - as the defense is now suggesting - OJ couldn't have done it because there are cameras all over Vegas! - casinos wouldn't need police! Criminals are fundamentally no small bit dumb. OJ included. They steal even when the cameras are right there.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

STOLEN my butt..........if you don't pay your storage rent they SALE your stuff. :rolleyes:

Did I hear that correctly?/The stuff stolen off the walls of his house was stored in a warehouse belonging to his momma?..So..where does that translate to being stolen if it was within a warehouse belonging to his mother??..To me...doesnt follow!

LMShammer

[bearwds]

I wish Galanter would stop licking his fingers...eewww

I liked the part where he went over and stood behind OJ and put his hands on his shoulders asking the jury to ignore the elephant in the room...lol


bearwds

[starbright]

Good morning all!

Boy, OJ sure has his victim/innocent face going on for the jury. lol
Far cry from the mouth moving non stop, head shaking, rolling the eyes OJ we've all come to know and love, eh?

I absolutely agree. They showed a clip earlier of OJ walking into court this a.m. and waving at the crowd, "thumbs up", smiling and grinning from ear to ear. Now, the serious, "I couldn't do that" look.

[Fallen Angel]

Stupid Question...... Why didnt OJ call YALE and have YALE help him get his stuff back?

[dmh]

I want to thank everyone for trying to help me with live streaming...I get live streaming but no audio..yet on old videos I get both...audio and video? I will have to depend on all of you to keep me up to date after 3...
My mom is depending on me to keep her informed on all that is happening after 3....:
OJ is someone who can get away with murder any time he is dragged into court and thinks he is untouchable.

[legalmania]

Galanter is trying to sell that it's OK to recovery property using guns? That's not going to work. Two wrongs don't make a right.


Can not come to that conclusion yet haven't heard all the evidence. O.J. did not have a gun.

[Heyes]

I absolutely agree. They showed a clip earlier of OJ walking into court this a.m. and waving at the crowd, "thumbs up", smiling and grinning from ear to ear. Now, the serious, "I couldn't do that" look.

Well. he never was a very good actor. The entertaiment value is priceless though. lol

[legalmania]

I want to thank everyone for trying to help me with live streaming...I get live streaming but no audio..yet on old videos I get both...audio and video? I will have to depend on all of you to keep me up to date after 3...
My mom is depending on me to keep her informed on all that is happening after 3....:
OJ is someone who can get away with murder any time he is dragged into court and thinks he is untouchable.

I am on cnn.com and having no problem with the sound or feed.

[tashi]

Stupid Question...... Why didnt OJ call YALE and have YALE help him get his stuff back?

Not stupid at all...you just described what most law abiding citizens would have done ;)

[AnnInOhio]

I wish Galanter would stop licking his fingers...eewww

I liked the part where he went over and stood behind OJ and put his hands on his shoulders asking the jury to ignore the elephant in the room...lol


bearwds


cnn feed keeps showing Judge Glass who looks like she wants to put her feet up because it's getting deep!

[AnnInOhio]

so let me get this straight.

if my neighbor steals my stuff and wont give it back. instead of callng the police or a lawyer and suing to get it back the right way, the legal way...according to the defense...it's ok if i just bust in their house and take it back any way i can because it's my stuff.

am i getting this right?

well, only if the police tell you it's a civil matter and you'll need to go to the trouble to sue your neighbor...who has that kind of time when you have a posse willing to commit a felony for you?

[Heyes]

so let me get this straight.

if my neighbor steals my stuff and wont give it back. instead of callng the police or a lawyer and suing to get it back the right way, the legal way...according to the defense...it's ok if i just bust in their house and take it back any way i can because it's my stuff.

am i getting this right?


How I wish Yale would have something of OJ's at his house that OJ felt he should bust in and retrieve.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

OMG..CNNlive is directly on Judge Glass..It appears she is stiffling the rolling eyes..but not too effectly hiding her distain for the subject being spewed by Mr. Galanter..She is showing that she having a difficulty from calling him out on some of the facts he is presenting!!

LMS:eek:

[Fallen Angel]

omg, is that what happened here?

YES ma'am. OJ's mom had some of the stuff in storage and she didn't pay it and OJ didn't pay it after she died soooooo the storage place auctioned off the stuff. Simple as that.

Might i add it was ALL in storage so Nicole and Rons families couldn't get it.

[bearwds]

Gallenter trying to give jury instructions. Judge Glass smacked him down.. Twice. Sharp.


bearwds

[AnnInOhio]

OMG..CNNlive is directly on Judge Glass..It appears she is stiffling the rolling eyes..but not too effectly hiding her distain for the subject being spewed by Mr. Galanter..She is showing that she having a difficulty from calling him out on some of the facts he is presenting!!

LMS:eek:

That's what I meant by looking like she should lift her feet because it's getting deep

[AnnInOhio]

Hmmm...I notice Yale doesn't mention the part on the tapes where OJ admits his own attorney told him the sting was a bad idea

[Lyndawitha"Y]

That's what I meant by looking like she should lift her feet because it's getting deep

OHHHH..Glad I wasnt the only one who got that feeling..I think he now gets just how much leeeeway he will be given in this court case!..Is it because he's not from Las Vegas that he doesnt realize he cant push that envelop that far??

LMS:shrug:

[AnnInOhio]

So, the extent of the relationship between OJ and Mr Stewart was that they mutually used each other??? Priceless.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Mr Stewart a "Mortgage Broker"..licensed and reputable..hummm..given the collapse of BIG FIRMS..kinda makes one think about just how reputable that business is given the shenanigans that went on that business???HUMMM..Not sure he should have stressed that point!?

LMShammer

[AnnInOhio]

So now this was Arnelle Simpson's fault???

[Fallen Angel]

ahahhahahaa i didnt know this!

i've always been under the assumption that it really had been taken from him.

i love this. i cant believe yale said all that with a straight face, lol

i'm sure the Pros will bring up the storage unit ;)

[Details]

Boring stuff from Stewart's attorney. Having money and a good job is not proof you didn't do anything wrong. He could trim this opening statement a lot - "He didn't know the stuff wasn't OJ's, didn't know there would be guns." - and make the same impact.


Hmmm - but boy it ticks OJ's attorney off to have a version that is closer to the truth (IMO) reported by a codefendant's attorney. 3 sided trial here!

[Fallen Angel]

i HATe trials with two defendents

[AnnInOhio]

I love the judge's sarcasm!

[bearwds]

i just made cinamon rolls. anyone hungry?

we need to keep our strength up for the trial.
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Yums... <raises hand> Actually, I'm having a tomato I just picked off the vine for breakfast.

Sidebar


bearwds

[Heyes]

omg did that really just happen?

did the co defense just stand up and say his story was BS? did that really just happen?

omg, im sorry. i laffed so hard i dropped the cinamon rolls on the floor:D

Yes! pass the rolls please.
LMBO here

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Oh, No. This is BAD, when the defense attorneys can't keep their stories straight.

OJ looks so pizzed off..He is attempting to make eye contact with Stewart , who is keeping his nose in papers..LOL!!

I'll just bet OJ..has a significant "Hairy Eyeball"!!

LMS

[llylabrat]

this guys voice is getting on my nerves

[legalmania]

I hope you watch this trial because from what I'm reading none of you have a clue as to what happened.

[Details]

It's a relatively convincing story from this guy on Stewart - but he's sure going all over the place to try to prove he just happened to magically always have his back to the guns every time. And sure sounds like a very questionable situation where you think you are moving muscle, and end up patting a guy down for guns while you are standing in his face to intimidate him into not causing trouble.

[legalmania]

omg it just keeps getting better and better.

now we find out that this peaceful just picking up of oj's stolen stuff that they had to pat the people down. i cant believe he's saying this stuff, haha


cinamon rolls coming up. i baked more. i have some fresh oj too.

Are you talking about CS because so far there is no evidence that he knew it was stolen. He would have taken a deal.

[llylabrat]

llylabrat -- not only that, but this attorney keeps flubbing his words. And all that gesturing....it's like a parody they do on SNL :roll eyes: And reading, and like he's all exhausted. "Mr Stewart wasn't the only one who was tired. You got that right, bub!

hahaha i just heard one "participation." i put my headphones on with the screen minimized and wondered who the lady was:D

[dmh]

I got it!!!!!! thank all of you for your help:beer:
next round of drinks on me!!

[bearwds]

omg it just keeps getting better and better.
cinamon rolls coming up. i baked more. i have some fresh oj too.
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Geeze... Rolls on the floor and sour oj, it went bad. Pass.

Going to afternoon lunchbreak. One hour 15 minutes.


bearwds

[Details]

Are you talking about CS because so far there is no evidence that he knew it was stolen. He would have taken a deal.His attorney is sure suggesting otherwise. You go in, get in someone's face so they don't cause trouble, and pat them down in personal places for a gun - I think you know you are not just picking up stuff, but that you are taking it by force - by definition, a crime.

[Fallen Angel]

I love lunch time when marla and lonnie get to talk. i wish the jurors could hear them lol

[AnnInOhio]

Yes! pass the rolls please.
LMBO here


Obviously 5 second rule applies to the dropped cinnamon balls!

[legalmania]

yes, i was referring to both defendants. seems their lawyers cant keep their stories straight. i dont believe that CS didnt know it was stolen. but we know it wasnt even stolen. until oj stole it...thats when it became stolen!

It's a very complicated case. Lets wait until we hear some real testimony and then we can get a better idea.

[hooked2]

It's a relatively convincing story from this guy on Stewart - but he's sure going all over the place to try to prove he just happened to magically always have his back to the guns every time. And sure sounds like a very questionable situation where you think you are moving muscle, and end up patting a guy down for guns while you are standing in his face to intimidate him into not causing trouble.

... and that the person being patted down "probably lost his balance" causing your client to then help him stand back up...

By the way, hi everybody :seeya:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

It's a very complicated case. Lets wait until we hear some real testimony and then we can get a better idea.

I do appreciate your need for hearing evidence actually allowed in any trial..but of course you just have to realize the term "Unringing the bell". It just so happen, many here have heard testimony in the preliminary hearing along with media spin..and you are correct, the jury will have to make judgement on WHAT THEY HEAR in court..but many do question lawyers comments that make one scratch their heads..We, here are not jurors..thankfully..so we do and will react..Human Nature!

Having said all that, I also want to comment on many post trial juror's who have commented on such things as.."If I knew that I would have changed my vote"..that can go both ways..and IF evidence is suppressed both legally and non-legally ( hiding inculpatory/exculpitory evidence)..makes some wonder..Right or wrong..it is in the eye of the beholder to make their individual opinion.

LMS:seeya:

[AnnInOhio]

Um, if OJ wanted his "stolen" stuff so bad, if getting it right away was so important to him that he couldn't wait to get it thru civil means, why did he have Stewart keep it? Stewart apparently wasn't one of his best buds. How many times was OJ willing to leave his valuables in the care of somebody else? Methinks OJ knew it was "hot" and getting it away from Gilbert/Beardsley/Fromong so they couldn't make money on it was more important than him getting it "back" for any sentimental reason.

[legalmania]

I do appreciate your need for hearing evidence actually allowed in any trial..but of course you just have to realize the term "Unringing the bell". It just so happen, many here have heard testimony in the preliminary hearing along with media spin..and you are correct, the jury will have to make judgement on WHAT THEY HEAR in court..but many do question lawyers comments that make one scratch their heads..We, here are not jurors..thankfully..so we do and will react..Human Nature!

Having said all that, I also want to comment on many post trial juror's who have commented on such things as.."If I knew that I would have changed my vote"..that can go both ways..and IF evidence is suppressed both legally and non-legally ( hiding inculpatory/exculpitory evidence)..makes some wonder..Right or wrong..it is in the eye of the beholder to make their individual opinion.

LMS:seeya:

It's just the paralegal in me I believe in fair trail. I believe in the constitution.

[llylabrat]

It's just the paralegal in me I believe in fair trail. I believe in the constitution.

i do too! and nothing said here is going to deprive him of that. his attorneys are acting on his behalf. oj has always gotten the benefit of the constitution in court.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

It's just the paralegal in me I believe in fair trail. I believe in the constitution.

And I get that..:)

LMS

[kate482000]

Does anyone know when court will be back on? It's 3:00 PM est now.

[legalmania]

Um, if OJ wanted his "stolen" stuff so bad, if getting it right away was so important to him that he couldn't wait to get it thru civil means, why did he have Stewart keep it? Stewart apparently wasn't one of his best buds. How many times was OJ willing to leave his valuables in the care of somebody else? Methinks OJ knew it was "hot" and getting it away from Gilbert/Beardsley/Fromong so they couldn't make money on it was more important than him getting it "back" for any sentimental reason.

I think it may have been a little difficult to carry all that on the plane. Why would Stewart keep it if he knew it was stolen?

[tashi]

Does anyone know when court will be back on? It's 3:00 PM est now.


3:45pm EST

[legalmania]

Does anyone know when court will be back on? It's 3:00 PM est now.

She said 12:45 west coast so whatever time zone your in. It's 3:45 for me.

[summer4meplz]

I hope you watch this trial because from what I'm reading none of you have a clue as to what happened.

and what do YOU think happened....it seems pretty clear to me, in an effort to avoid paying on his judgment, a tip off....(talk about corruption) led oj to have all his valuable things taken out in the middle of the night.....he swore he had no more valuables....therefore...they weren't his things anymore...he disavowed...he disowned....gone...poof...

now tell me how you think it went down....
we can start at the beginning

[Cornblossom]

our system presumes innocence, which means that legally speaking, even the obviously guilty are treated as though they are innocent, until they are proven otherwise.

The concept of the presumption of innocence is one of the most basic in our system of justice. However, in so many words, it is not codified in the text of the Constitution. This basic right comes to us, like many things, from English jurisprudence, and has been a part of that system for so long, that it is considered common law. The concept is embodied in several provisions of the Constitution, however, such as the right to remain silent and the right to a jury.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Does anyone know when court will be back on? It's 3:00 PM est now.

It seems you are in EST Zone..so it should be 345PM our time...LOL..and somehow I think Judge Glass will keep things ontime..all the time!!..LOL

LMS

[llylabrat]

a few more thoughts about waiting until all the evidence is in on a message board....

1. the attorneys on both sides have taken positions. the paralegals for them have taken positions. the only ones not allowed to are the judge and the jury (maybe not the judge)

2. innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept for the court/justice system only. it does not apply to message boards. if someone wants to stick their neck out and make a premature prediction it is just discussion as we don't make the call.

[AnnInOhio]

I think it may have been a little difficult to carry all that on the plane. Why would Stewart keep it if he knew it was stolen?


Didn't OJ think about what he was gonna do with his "stuff" before he went to get it? Stewart's attorney says OJ picked Stewart to participate in part because he had a big vehicle and OJ knew there would be a lot of stuff. I also find it interesting that OJ didn't carry any of his prized possessions out of the hotel - he had everybody else get their hands dirty! Did he really think nobody would dare turn on him when push came to shove?

[legalmania]

and what do YOU think happened....it seems pretty clear to me, in an effort to avoid paying on his judgment, a tip off....(talk about corruption) led oj to have all his valuable things taken out in the middle of the night.....he swore he had no more valuables....therefore...they weren't his things anymore...he disavowed...he disowned....gone...poof...

now tell me how you think it went down....
we can start at the beginning

Until I hear all the testimony and see the evidence I don't know. As far as I understood these things were of no value to the normal person.

[kate482000]

3:45pm EST

TY folks....I guess it's pizza or leftovers tonight.....;)

[Details]

It's just the paralegal in me I believe in fair trail. I believe in the constitution.I believe in the truth, and a fair trial is one that arrives at the truth. A fair trial that convicts an innocent is wrong, a fair trial that frees the guilty is wrong (although sometimes both are unavoidable). In this case we do have a lot of the evidence, admitted evidence, that is public - the tapes are incontrovertible - they aren't eyewitness testimony that could be wrong, they aren't in question in any way. And from that, a reasonable person may indeed come to their own conclusions.

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law is a saying with precise and limited application - it applies only to how the jurors are to come to their verdict - nothing else - a juror can even believe a defendant guilty in their hearts (as many have) so long as they will base their verdict on whether or not guilt has been properly proven based on the evidence. I remember many a juror saying after the trial that they thought the defendant guilty - but could not find it as their verdict. IPUG is about one thing, and one thing only - how the jurors are to consider the defendant in the context of rendering their verdict. Nothing else. As many a law journal, judge, and other article writer has explained, over and over again.

[summer4meplz]

Does anyone think oj will testify.....?

[AnnInOhio]

I think it may have been a little difficult to carry all that on the plane. Why would Stewart keep it if he knew it was stolen?

The short answer is that Stewart didn't have a choice...OJ just dumped the stolen goods on him (what a pal!) No wonder Stewart was sick...he probably realized he'd been had by OJ - that would leave a sick feeling in anybody's stomach.

It's kinda funny to me that the end result of all this is that OJ STILL doesn't have "his stuff" and never will!

[Details]

Until I hear all the testimony and see the evidence I don't know. As far as I understood these things were of no value to the normal person.Then why were they up for sale, why were they in the hands of memoribilia salespeople? Because they did have value.

[legalmania]

Didn't OJ think about what he was gonna do with his "stuff" before he went to get it? Stewart's attorney says OJ picked Stewart to participate in part because he had a big vehicle and OJ knew there would be a lot of stuff. I also find it interesting that OJ didn't carry any of his prized possessions out of the hotel - he had everybody else get their hands dirty! Did he really think nobody would dare turn on him when push came to shove?

I saw OJ a couple of times once at Turnberry Isle and then at the Airport after his murder trial, and people were all over him. Can I take that for you Mr. Simpson can I get you a drink Mr. Simpson. Turnberry Isle is a very exclusive place and they surrounded OJ like nothing had ever happened. He never carried anything people loved doing it for him.

[bearwds]

It seems you are in EST Zone..so it should be 345PM our time...LOL..and somehow I think Judge Glass will keep things ontime..all the time!!..LOL

LMS
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My InSession TruTV broadcast has ended for the day :mad:

Will have to pick up on web.

Anyone notice that Judge Glass looks like she would like to be anywhere but here today ??

Wonder if Lucherini and Gallenter are having lunch together.


bearwds

[dmh]

Does anyone think oj will testify.....?


I may be wrong..but I thought I heard he will:shrug::shrug:

[Cornblossom]

Does anyone think oj will testify.....?he did rather well testifying in his road rage trial...I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't here....kind of get in touch with the jurors.

[legalmania]

Then why were they up for sale, why were they in the hands of memoribilia salespeople? Because they did have value.

The guy had a truck load full of stuff that wasn't selling.

[Cornblossom]

The guy had a truck load full of stuff that wasn't selling.
I think Jean/maybe Beth said this morning the highest price of his memorabillia on Ebay is 162.00

[beckyj]

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My InSession TruTV broadcast has ended for the day :mad:

Will have to pick up on web.

Anyone notice that Judge Glass looks like she would like to be anywhere but here today ??

Wonder if Lucherini and Gallenter are having lunch together.


bearwds


Mine too. Do you know where we can watch it live?

[legalmania]

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My InSession TruTV broadcast has ended for the day :mad:

Will have to pick up on web.

Anyone notice that Judge Glass looks like she would like to be anywhere but here today ??

Wonder if Lucherini and Gallenter are having lunch together.


bearwds

I don't think so there are very few judges who don't like their job.

[legalmania]

I think Jean/maybe Beth said this morning the highest price of his memorabillia on Ebay is 162.00


Nobody even wants to pay that.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

The guy had a truck load full of stuff that wasn't selling.

Just to use your paralegal/judicial premise here..Your statement is proveable..do you have evidence that it was on Ebay maybe for years and not bought?..or a link to this stuf not saleable?..If you walk the talk..then one must walk the talk!

I dont think I have read anywhere that the items taken were not selling..then again I wouldnt buy that crappolla..but I cant speak for others!

LMS:no:

[Cornblossom]

Mine too. Do you know where we can watch it live?
http://www.thelegaledge.com./
you don't have to register to watch but you do have to be registered to chat...right now you will see a big black screen

[bearwds]

The guy had a truck load full of stuff that wasn't selling.
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I don't think you can verify that. The movers were one step ahead of the writ for seizure. It was hidden in Grandma Simpson's storage locker. Simpson hid in plain sight in Florida where under the homestead law, his posessions couldn't be touched.

I bet Fred Goldman is kicking himself for not investigating G'ma.


bearwds

[beckyj]

http://www.thelegaledge.com./
you don't have to register to watch but you do have to be registered to chat...right now you will see a big black screen

Thanks a bunch!

[Cornblossom]

Thanks a bunch!
you're welcome.
Bruce Fromong will be the first witness

[CourtsideVue]

TY folks....I guess it's pizza or leftovers tonight.....;)

CROCKPOT COOKING is the answer. It's the way to go for these left-coast trials that run late into the evening for us right-coasters.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

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My InSession TruTV broadcast has ended for the day :mad:

Will have to pick up on web.

Anyone notice that Judge Glass looks like she would like to be anywhere but here today ??

Wonder if Lucherini and Gallenter are having lunch together.


bearwds

Judge Glass is a not going to put up with any antics!! It is her duty to make sure this case is heard fairly for all sides...nit just one side..Me thinks she shows her distain very clearly..even not opening her mouth..and it has nothing to do with her biased for or against.but conduct in her courtroom!

NO...I dont think the defense attny's will be sharing bread...however..it may behoove OJ's attny's to reconcile with Stewart's attny....Only speculating there>?!!

LMS

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"Y...<snip>

NO...I dont think the defense attny's will be sharing bread...however..it may behoove OJ's attny's to reconcile with Stewart's attny....Only speculating there>?!!

LMS
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Could you imagine that lunchtable scene ?? Both attorneys wrestling over a loaf of bread. "mine--mine".

I will wager (fake money) that Stewart cops a plea and drops out of this trial before the end.

After watching (and listening) to Mr. Lucherini, I bet he is ready to bail right now.


bearwds

[legalmania]

Just to use your paralegal/judicial premise here..Your statement is proveable..do you have evidence that it was on Ebay maybe for years and not bought?..or a link to this stuf not saleable?..If you walk the talk..then one must walk the talk!

I dont think I have read anywhere that the items taken were not selling..then again I wouldnt buy that crappolla..but I cant speak for others!

LMS:no:

Wait a minute where did I say it was for sale on Ebay?

[Lyndawitha"Y]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"Y...<snip>

NO...I dont think the defense attny's will be sharing bread...however..it may behoove OJ's attny's to reconcile with Stewart's attny....Only speculating there>?!!

LMS
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Could you imagine that lunchtable scene ?? Both attorneys wrestling over a loaf of bread. "mine--mine".

I will wager (fake money) that Stewart cops a plea and drops out of this trial before the end.

After watching (and listening) to Mr. Lucherini, I bet he is ready to bail right now.


bearwds


:lol: No Doubt..OJ acts like a child in many ways..and so do his attny's by extension...LOL!

LMS

[Fallen Angel]

does anyone know if they are back yet?

[AnnInOhio]

I saw OJ a couple of times once at Turnberry Isle and then at the Airport after his murder trial, and people were all over him. Can I take that for you Mr. Simpson can I get you a drink Mr. Simpson. Turnberry Isle is a very exclusive place and they surrounded OJ like nothing had ever happened. He never carried anything people loved doing it for him.

I don't doubt that at all. But strangers and service people are one thing; your "friends" that you've roped into breaking the law for you are another. If he wanted the items because they had such sentimental value to him, wouldn't you think he'd take some time to look through everything to see what's there? There wasn't time in that room to see everything. It wasn't about the "stuff" with OJ, it was about being dissed by his agent/former friend.

[legalmania]

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I don't think you can verify that. The movers were one step ahead of the writ for seizure. It was hidden in Grandma Simpson's storage locker. Simpson hid in plain sight in Florida where under the homestead law, his posessions couldn't be touched.

I bet Fred Goldman is kicking himself for not investigating G'ma.


bearwds

Well if they couldn't be touched then why was he hiding them? Courts back talk latter.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Wait a minute where did I say it was for sale on Ebay?

NO...only a common example of selling items..and since you didnt offer any evidenciary links or venues I offered just one example..Sorry..but dont pick an example to defend your stance..please give just one or any examples of failure of items being "unsaleable" or not purchased for any length of time! TYIA

LMS:confused:

[AnnInOhio]

does anyone know if they are back yet?

Fromong is on the stand

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Fromong is on the stand


HUMMMM..Sounds like Mike Gilbert's name is going to be very much a part of all this..Hope he testifies!!

LMS

[Fallen Angel]

We're back.

TY Suzi:beer:

[dmh]

I don't doubt that at all. But strangers and service people are one thing; your "friends" that you've roped into breaking the law for you are another. If he wanted the items because they had such sentimental value to him, wouldn't you think he'd take some time to look through everything to see what's there? There wasn't time in that room to see everything. It wasn't about the "stuff" with OJ, it was about being dissed by his agent/former friend.

Now this is JMO..But I would call the proper authories and tell them my things were stolen from me. If he did and nothing was done....then it should only be him who is going to confront that person unless you want to press charges against the person...You do not take the law into your own hands.. If I stole something from you..would you press charges or bring 2 or 3 of your "friends" to intimadate (sp) me? But that as I said is JMO

[dmh]

I don't doubt that at all. But strangers and service people are one thing; your "friends" that you've roped into breaking the law for you are another. If he wanted the items because they had such sentimental value to him, wouldn't you think he'd take some time to look through everything to see what's there? There wasn't time in that room to see everything. It wasn't about the "stuff" with OJ, it was about being dissed by his agent/former friend.

Now this is JMO..But I would call the proper authories and tell them my things were stolen from me. If he did and nothing was done....then it should only be him who is going to confront that person unless you want to press charges against the person...You do not take the law into your own hands.. If I stole something from you..would you press charges or bring 2 or 3 of your "friends" to intimadate (sp) me? But that as I said is JMO

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I just love that term...."Defendent Simpson"..!!! and hope Gilbert testifies to back up Fromong's testimony!..Hopa..hopa..

LMS;)

[Details]

OMG, Fromong's life just got a lot more interesting! He mixed up West Point and the Naval Acadamy! He's in for REAL trouble now!
:D

[Fallen Angel]

a gal:lol:

[hooked2]

Was just channel surfing and the trial was being shown live on cnn Headline News channel for those who prefer tv viewing

[Cornblossom]

could someone remind me who mike gilbert is?tia!!

He wrote,"How I Helped O.J. Get Away With Murder: The Shocking Inside Story of Violence, Loyalty, Regret and Remorse,"


http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/books/05/10/oj.simpson.ap/index.html

[Fallen Angel]

This witness is a liar liar pants on fire! "Um um um", slick-o.

imo

what is he lying about?:shrug:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

could someone remind me who mike gilbert is?tia!!

Mike Gilbert was a very close associate of OJ prior to his murder trial.and he was the person who secreted all that STUFF from Rockingham prior to the search and seizure post Civil Court Seizure of items of monetary value to fullfill damages..(OJ had been tipped off???wonder who??) Oj was out goling..and knew nuthin.saw nuttin..heard nuttin!! In the meantime..this STFF got stashed into warehouse under OJ's mother's name...HUMMMM..I have heard Gilbert speak f all this..so not making it up or just taking media sin on that!

LMS:cuss:

[CopperDog]

Was just channel surfing and the trial was being shown live on cnn Headline News channel for those who prefer tv viewing

Thanks hooked2.
:seeya: Hi all.

[CourtsideVue]

So are we again in a state where it's the "norm" for the attorneys to do their questioning of witness from a sitting down position?

I first saw this during the Jensen trial and thought it was so odd. Now they're doing it here in Nevada too!

[Fallen Angel]

"Truthfully, I don't remember" laughs facetiously. Of course, it's all about the $$$$ (obviously) but I guess it's just my "read" I'm just turning in....(shh, I'll be quiet for now) ~~~

you do realize this guys a very credible sports memorabilia seller correct?

[CopperDog]

So are we again in a state where it's the "norm" for the attorneys to do their questioning of witness from a sitting down position?

I first saw this during the Jensen trial and thought it was so odd. Now they're doing it here in Nevada too!

Jensen was the first trial that I remember them doing that, seems kind of disrespectful.

[AnnInOhio]

"Truthfully, I don't remember" laughs facetiously. Of course, it's all about the $$$$ (obviously) but I guess it's just my "read" I'm just turning in....(shh, I'll be quiet for now) ~~~


To what he wore a year ago? I'd have thought it was hinky if he DID remember exactly what he wore!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

whoa, and he's going to testify? cant wait for that! thanks lynda

Actually I have been asking that question all day..and since we dont have access to the witness list..I dont know Mike Gilbert will be testifying...BUT I hope he does!!..Dont want to mislead you on that point of Gilbert testifying..LOL

LMS:punch:

[Fallen Angel]

To what he wore a year ago? I'd have thought it was hinky if he DID remember exactly what he wore!

same here specially since he had a heart attack right after that and was in the hospital for a few week IIRC

[AnnInOhio]

same here specially since he had a heart attack right after that and was in the hospital for a few week IIRC


I feel for this guy...lucky for OJ that Fromong did not have a gun with him that day or this robbery would have been REALLY ugly!

[bearwds]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"Y..so not making it up or just taking media sin on that! ...<snip>

LMS
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Ha-Ha...!! I like the typo, "media sin".

NOW...we find out that the Items were moved from G'ma's storage to another storage shed in Hanford, Ca.

OJ is puffing his cheeks. (facial)....lol


bearwds

[Fallen Angel]

I feel for this guy...lucky for OJ that Fromong did not have a gun with him that day or this robbery would have been REALLY ugly!

Now that would have been some serious drama.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

To what he wore a year ago? I'd have thought it was hinky if he DID remember exactly what he wore!

Actualy when one experiences a traumatic incident..there is a phenomena that occurs....and that is you remember like a slow-mo action replay that happens..and one will recall specifics..it is truly a very scary experience..

Fromong's experience was significant enough to create a "Heart Attack"..so must have been significant in his eyes anyway!!

LMS

[CourtsideVue]

I'm embarrassed for this guy ... he seems a bit nervous and the "bumbling" doesn't help. Just like the weird laugh after he said he didn't remember what he was wearing.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I'm embarrassed for this guy ... he seems a bit nervous and the "bumbling" doesn't help. Just like the weird laugh after he said he didn't remember what he was wearing.

We can only pray he doesnt have another heart attack!!..

LMS:punch:

[CourtsideVue]

Yikes ... I have to step away for a few minutes to give my daughter some medication. I hope I don't miss anything.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Defendent Simpson waving his arm up and down...hummm was he like a bird with one wing..flying in a circle????? Just what is that arm direction indicating????

LMShammer

ETA..Am I wrong in just who Fromong is referring to???Sorry if I am mistaken

[AnnInOhio]

is it just me or is he sort of changing his story to make it sound like oj didnt want the guns there? i dont remember him saying this in the other hearing.


I think he's just trying to be honest. Listen to the tape - it was a lot of confusion in a short time under a lot of stress. I'd be suspect if his testimony here was exactly the same as his prior testimony.

[AnnInOhio]

at this point, if i were the pros..i'd pull out a diagram to scale and let fromong show where everyone was standing so the jury could see how small the room was.


good suggestion...would sure help ME!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

is it just me or is he sort of changing his story to make it sound like oj didnt want the guns there? i dont remember him saying this in the other hearing.

Not so sure he is changing any testimony..as what we heard was only a preliminary hearing..so incomplete...If his testimny is variable..ya just know it will be brought out in cross??!!

LMS

[bearwds]

at this point, if i were the pros..i'd pull out a diagram to scale and let fromong show where everyone was standing so the jury could see how small the room was.
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During opening statement D.A. had photographs that were shown on "The Elmo" (do they still call it that...lol)

Enough room for the posse to stand behind them and between the bed.


bearwds

[CourtsideVue]

Someone asked earlier ...
I think that's actually a peacock on Fromong's tie.
Is he affiliated with NBC in anyway? Cuz otherwise, I can't see any good reason for him to wear a peacock.

[legalmania]

NO...only a common example of selling items..and since you didnt offer any evidenciary links or venues I offered just one example..Sorry..but dont pick an example to defend your stance..please give just one or any examples of failure of items being "unsaleable" or not purchased for any length of time! TYIA

LMS:confused:

When you have a truck full of things from 1991 and you still have them in 2007 I would say it might be just a hint nobody wants them.

[dsmith]

quick ? who are the men sitting to the right of oj