sunday 9/14/08 evening late-nite thread

[tiny paw-prints]

Please continue here.

Play nice and read Coldwater's sticky reminder titled:

"stop stop stop"

:seeya:

[ohio-53]

I'm here.:seeya:

[tiny paw-prints]

Is there a proper link for the organization that's taking donations for Casey Marie's defense? link, link, link, please.

[Boxer]

Is there a proper link for the organization that's taking donations for Casey Marie's defense? link, link, link, please.

have not seen one, but my emotions may have blocked my view.

[marinewife5]

here.

i posted the link. in the meanwhile, i also wanted to point out that the anthony's have claimed that they can't go get caylee from the kidnappers, even though casey told them everything she could, because that would tip the kidnappers off and put caylee in danger. um, isn't that cat out of the bag? in fact, it's shredded the drapes, ate the fern, and peed on the china cabinet. yet, cindy went on tv night after night to tell everyone to look for caylee. these are not the actions of people believing their grandchild to be kidnapped. these are people desparately trying to create confusion in casey's role in caylee's death. jmo

[barskin&co.]

Okay, stop it now! I'm here to get away from the "professional legals of all types."

[need2no]

Okay, stop it now! I'm here to get away from the "professional legals of all types."


Me too...my tummy was hurting from laughing so hard. :biggrin:

[tiny paw-prints]

have not seen one, but my emotions may have blocked my view.

Take a deep breath, Boxer.

:rose:

I was able to take a coupla hours breaktime,
a short nap and Bible study.

:rose: Caylee

[marinewife5]

have not seen one, but my emotions may have blocked my view.

i have wondered if this never lose hope foundation is the new name of the caylee anthony trust fund that the anthony's solicited funds for. it all seems a little hinky to me. jmo

[marinewife5]

Okay, stop it now! I'm here to get away from the "professional legals of all types."

perhaps after casey gets her prison orange jumpsuit (fingers crossed) she can start up a "professional illegals of all types" sorority in her cell block :shrug:

[Boxer]

perhaps after casey gets her prison orange jumpsuit (fingers crossed) she can start up a "professional illegals of all types" sorority in her cell block :shrug:



um, that'd be PITS


just sayin....

[Boxer]

Take a deep breath, Boxer.

:rose:

I was able to take a coupla hours breaktime,
a short nap and Bible study.

:rose: Caylee



and exhale.

thanks:rose:

[tiny paw-prints]

Okay, stop it now! I'm here to get away from the "professional legals of all types."

LOL! Maybe you need to move from

"outside the normal scope of things" :D

and theorize about why "professional legals of all types"

might be pertinent to the overall facts? of this case.

[marinewife5]

um, that'd be PITS


just sayin....

good...i would hate for her to wear out the bedazzler spelling out the whole thing.

i was hoping by now that someone had helped her with the body and would go to LE and take a deal in exchange for the location, but alas, that doesn't seem to be happening. dang casey and all of her employed friends:cuss:

[Boxer]

Oh dear. She said on Open Court that her son is a financial advisor at Merrill Lynch and that he said this buy out by BOA is really good news! On the entire internet, he is the only one saying it isn't a crisis.

maybe when you get down to brass tax it isn't.

I just cannot imagine a group of people able to set aside emotion when a baby has seemingly dropped off the face of the earth.

[aubrey04]

I see Dragon got a new name. :D

I am watching Cindy testify at the bond hearing because I can't sleep. She is full of it. She rambles and changes the subject.. just like Casey. I wonder where Casey learned that.

:rolleyes:

[marinewife5]

maybe when you get down to brass tax it isn't.

I just cannot imagine a group of people able to set aside emotion when a baby has seemingly dropped off the face of the earth.


and that is why we are judged by a jury of our peers, not a jury of professional legals. whether defense attorney's like it or not, it is human to view the "facts" from our own perspectives. hence, 12 people, not one person. if it was only about the "facts" we could just imput the data in a computer program and have a verdict.

but what do i know, i'm only a partial professional psychology.

[Boxer]

and that is why we are judged by a jury of our peers, not a jury of professional legals. whether defense attorney's like it or not, it is human to view the "facts" from our own perspectives. hence, 12 people, not one person. if it was only about the "facts" we could just imput the data in a computer program and have a verdict.

but what do i know, i'm only a partial professional psychology.

not talking about the jury...sorry. was talking about so called legal professionals donating money for the defense of Casey Anthony and the personal support of Jose Baez....

[tiny paw-prints]

Please remember to check the "Links Thread" for past and current updates.

For those who are joining this thread, below are a few links for current updates:

Heated exchange last night between Cindy and protester
Video
http://www.wftv.com/video/17469643/index.html
Story
http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

Raw video of clash
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2...o=&cat=&title=

Casey Anthony Enters Not Guilty Plea On 10 Check Fraud Charges
http://www.wesh.com/news/17472147/detail.html

:rose: Where is sweet Caylee Marie?

[Boxer]

I'm going to bed. I'm too tired to maintain composure.

:seeya:

[aubrey04]

and that is why we are judged by a jury of our peers, not a jury of professional legals. whether defense attorney's like it or not, it is human to view the "facts" from our own perspectives. hence, 12 people, not one person. if it was only about the "facts" we could just imput the data in a computer program and have a verdict.

but what do i know, i'm only a partial professional psychology.

Good point because I can't see certain defense lawyers, like Jami Floyd, voting "guilty" for anyone unless they were videotaped in the act.. Even then Jami would get around voting "guilty" by claiming the tape was edited or reproduced somehow.

On the other hand, some DA's, like Nifong, would convict on any amount of evidence.

Thank goodness ~ we are judged by our peers, if we choose.

[marinewife5]

not talking about the jury...sorry. was talking about so called legal professionals donating money for the defense of Casey Anthony and the personal support of Jose Baez....


oh, i know. but our favorite legal on the other thread seems to think that juries play no part in justice. i can't see too many legal professionals donating to that pool. jmo

[tiny paw-prints]

I see Dragon got a new name. :D

I am watching Cindy testify at the bond hearing because I can't sleep. She is full of it. She rambles and changes the subject.. just like Casey. I wonder where Casey learned that.

:rolleyes:

I'm not sure which one is more full of it?

George, Cindy, Casey, or Lee?

Who has the Bullsheet meter?

[marinewife5]

I'm going to bed. I'm too tired to maintain composure.

:seeya:

hagn :seeya:

[barskin&co.]

I'm going to bed. I'm too tired to maintain composure.

:seeya:


Sleep tight. Don't let the professional legals of all types bite! :seeya:

[tiny paw-prints]

I'm going to bed. I'm too tired to maintain composure.

:seeya:

Remedy:

Grab some carbs & a soft drink and come back in a few!

:hat:

[tiny paw-prints]

Sleep tight. Don't let the professional legals of all types bite! :seeya:

:lol: ewww...mattress mites?

[marinewife5]

Good night, all! :seeya: Sleep well!

i'm headed that way too (as soon as i grab some RAID :eek:)

:seeya:

[drip~drop1]

Please continue here.

Play nice and read Coldwater's sticky reminder titled:

"stop stop stop"

:seeya:

I'm here now.
Just got a bit itchy over there.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I hope some legal professionals on here can explain why and how they are raising money for someone and something that has not happaned yet.

Will I sound important too if I say I'm a member of a group that are legal professionals raising money for a potential baby killer? I want to be important too dang it.

[anyonesguess]

oh, i know. but our favorite legal on the other thread seems to think that juries play no part in justice. i can't see too many legal professionals donating to that pool. jmo

I think they were sent to bait us for some reason.

[OneUp]

I'M trying...so very hard I'm trying....
Why must some make it so irresistable? I did have a question, but the laughing has made me forgetful.
Anyway, I'm here and I promise to be good for ten whole minutes!
Night to all the sleepy ones!:seeya: I'm doing a "catch up" and reply to anything pertinent and then off to bed for myself as well.

[marinewife5]

I think they were sent to bait us for some reason.

in those cases, it is important to say "no way, jose". we mustn't join the forces working against justice for caylee. jmo

[luvinlife]

Are we allowed on this board to carry posts over from another thread?


Yes we are

[aubrey04]

I'm not sure which one is more full of it?

George, Cindy, Casey, or Lee?

Who has the Bullsheet meter?

It is hard to tell. I doubt Cindy would know the truth if it hit her in the face. She is seriously lying it up during this bond hearing. I am still listening... lies, lies and lies... She should be a politician.

[OneUp]

[QUOTE=need2no;12120777]
I need a link to the "vigil" to support Casey held tonight.
Please?

[barskin&co.]

I need a link to the "vigil" to support Casey held tonight.
Please?


Theres' a video of another confrontation on this page.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

[OneUp]

Please remember to check the "Links Thread" for past and current updates.

For those who are joining this thread, below are a few links for current updates:

Heated exchange last night between Cindy and protester
Video
http://www.wftv.com/video/17469643/index.html
Story
http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

Raw video of clash
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2...o=&cat=&title=

Casey Anthony Enters Not Guilty Plea On 10 Check Fraud Charges
http://www.wesh.com/news/17472147/detail.html

:rose: Where is sweet Caylee Marie?
TY Tiny! that is just what i was searching for when i got off track and mixed up about where I was.
I told you it's easy to confuse Lil Ol' Me.;)

[Celiarun]

Thank you! I'm curious to know what others think OCSO's reasoning is for not bringing forth charges connected to Caylee in the form of murder, manslaughter or any other assorted choices other than the child neglect Casey is charged with now. Consider the facts in the post below in your answer. It may prove to be a very interesting discussion.

Certiorari
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 49

Haha, not exactly. In fact it's more because she hasn't been charged with Homicide. Don't you find that a bit strange considering the vast amount of testing that has allegedly been done? They don't need a body. If they were confident in their test results, that it is Caylee's hair and it is decomposed, that in itself is plenty to go forward with charges. But they aren't.

they aren't going forward because they suspect a co-conspirator. Casey had help. She is incapable of handling the disposal of the child's body on her own, imvho.

[tiny paw-prints]

Are we allowed on this board to carry posts over from another thread?

Yes. As long as it's not overly-excessively done from that thread to this thread.

:seeya:

[OneUp]

Anyone who doesn't share in a mirrored view is considered a troll and a troll's opinion is considered bait.I did not realize I was considered a troll! I know my stringent view isn't really popular, but gosh...that's harsh! Isn't there a better term for it?
ETA: I think I'd prefer to be called anything but a troll...or a republican...ouch! wrong thread AGAIN...BEDTIME for this "bonzo"

[luvinlife]

Thank you! I'm curious to know what others think OCSO's reasoning is for not bringing forth charges connected to Caylee in the form of murder, manslaughter or any other assorted choices other than the child neglect Casey is charged with now. Consider the facts in the post below in your answer. It may prove to be a very interesting discussion.

Certiorari
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 49

Haha, not exactly. In fact it's more because she hasn't been charged with Homicide. Don't you find that a bit strange considering the vast amount of testing that has allegedly been done? They don't need a body. If they were confident in their test results, that it is Caylee's hair and it is decomposed, that in itself is plenty to go forward with charges. But they aren't.



Truly I have been wondering the same thing myself.

The questions I have are have body farm tests been allowed in court, and also the hair band evidence.

If they are not allowed they have Casey's not reporting Caylee missing, the cadaver dogs (need to see reliability), Cindy's comment re:smell, Det. Yuri's testimony re:smell, and all of Casey's lies and non emotion. Casey ditching the car.

I don't know if this is enough for all to convict her.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Maybe Caylee isn't dead;

If they can prove she is deceased, maybe others are involved and that part of the investigation isn't complete;

The initial tests were inconclusive and continue to be retested until they find a lab that will give them the results they want;

They are enjoying the circus.

This opinion is going too look quite foolish when trial starts and they prove they only used one lap to get results and possibly 2 for confirmation of original results which would be the intelligent thing to do.

JMO

[barskin&co.]

they aren't going forward because they suspect a co-conspirator. Casey had help. She is incapable of handling the disposal of the child's body on her own, imvho.

Actually, C, I don't agree with that at all. A little child like Caylee wouldn't be hard to dispose of. :( I don't believe for a moment Casey had a co-conspirator. LE is taking its time before they charge her with murder (and they will), because they want to make sure they have all their ducks in a row. It would be better if they found her remains, so I believe they will keep trying.

[tiny paw-prints]

TY Tiny! that is just what i was searching for when i got off track and mixed up about where I was.
I told you it's easy to confuse Lil Ol' Me.;)

YW, OneUp!

I mainly provided the very current links for those members who may have lost power due to Hurricane Ike and perhaps popping in here to catch a quick update.

:rose: I feel your confusion...

[Rebel Rouzer]

Apparently not. I was called a troll 5 minutes ago on the other thread. I get called troll more than I get called by my name.


Really? WOW

I had no idea.

[tiny paw-prints]

It's never my style to chant baby-killer or anything else so if anyone is looking for that you've got a long wait. :seeya:

So, what's your motive in re-introducing the chant and post about it here? Can we please move on with more constructive discussion about this case?

:read:

[drip~drop1]

Theres' a video of another confrontation on this page.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

At least she keeps busy.:rolleyes:

I wonder what happened to when she said something about pounding the pavement and knocking on every single door.
What became of that?:shrug:

moo

[Celiarun]

Actually, C, I don't agree with that at all. A little child like Caylee wouldn't be hard to dispose of. :( I don't believe for a moment Casey had a co-conspirator. LE is taking its time before they charge her with murder (and they will), because they want to make sure they have all their ducks in a row. It would be better if they found her remains, so I believe they will keep trying.

I don't believe George's gas can story.

[drip~drop1]

I'm going to bed also.
I'm having a HOOEY attack now.;)

Praying that tomorrow will come with some answers as to where precious baby Caylee is.

We know where there rest of the family is. All comfy. I wish Caylee was all comfy too.
:(
"
"
"
"

moo

[Rebel Rouzer]

I can handle it, as well as you should handle my opinion that you are quite rude to determine that anyone else's opinion is foolish. It proves to me that you're not a serious poster who is really interested in this case or Caylee, and that you lack the respect to give each poster room for their own view.


Yeah that's it. I'm not serious about this case or Caylee. I just spent hours searching for her with no sleep and little to eat because I was bored that weekend and had nothing better to do. :rolleyes:

[tiny paw-prints]

they aren't going forward because they suspect a co-conspirator. Casey had help. She is incapable of handling the disposal of the child's body on her own, imvho.

There does appear to be a weak or missing link, somewhere.

Casey may have 'creatively' lied to try and prove to her mother that she was capable of holding down a job. Casey has stinky fingers. It might have been her only way for a quick fix remedy in providing a roof over her head with Caylee. It's possible that she was under the gun with Cindy's "30 day notice"?

[Marianne]

hagn :seeya:

Take alook at this: posted by NatalieB #77 over in "Can you convict" thread

http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa308/Rayny_bucket/?action=view&current=RicardoMorales1.jpg

[barskin&co.]

I don't believe George's gas can story.

Ah, I see. Those kinds of suspicions.

[Celiarun]

There does appear to be a weak or missing link, somewhere.

Casey may have 'creatively' lied to try and prove to her mother that she was capable of holding down a job. Casey has stinky fingers. It might have been her only way for a quick fix remedy in providing a roof over her head with Caylee. It's possible that she was under the gun with Cindy's "30 day notice"?

ITA. Very possible. Cindy controlled everything, including the cars and house. The one thing Cindy could not control was Caylee.

[luvinlife]

I found an interesting thread on WS about Casey's handwriting. No experts, but interesting none the less. At least to me.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70690&page=3

[aubrey04]

Take alook at this: posted by NatalieB #77 over in "Can you convict" thread

http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa308/Rayny_bucket/?action=view&current=RicardoMorales1.jpg


Yessssssss. Isn't that freaky? That was taken off of Ricardo's facebook page, right?..I saw it RIGHT after the chloroform "evidence" was reported. It wigged me out.. Very strange.

:chicken::chicken:

[tiny paw-prints]

It is hard to tell. I doubt Cindy would know the truth if it hit her in the face. She is seriously lying it up during this bond hearing. I am still listening... lies, lies and lies... She should be a politician.

Yes, Cindy's testimony during the bond hearing is very interesting.

Here's a decent link to decipher deception:

An analysis of Caylee Anthony's Disappearance
http://www.statementanalysis.com/caylee/

Please review the home page at the above link, as well as analyses of cases, famous and otherwise. The above link is a good read.

[barskin&co.]

Don't worry AP, you're the normal one if you're not involved in this case as a contest to see who can be right or wrong. This case is especially sad, horrific and mired in with mystery that surpasses most anything that attorneys ever have to deal with. There's a 50/50 chance that anyone could be "right" or "wrong" and it pains me to type such a ridiculous thing concerning the life or death of a 3 year old baby.

No one will walk away from this being a hero. No one.

I couldn't disagree more. There is nowhere near a 50/50 chance that Casey is right, or honest, or innocent, IMO.

As for heroes, I would look to Detectives Yuri Melich and John Allen and many of the people at the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

[luvinlife]

If they have the hair test accurate with the dogs corroboration, that in itself is more than adequate, yes. The body farm may be difficult for them, but even without that, they have plenty to go forward if those tests truly did point to a dead Caylee. Casey's non-emotion may change, I look for it to if she's ever charged with murder or manslaughter. She feels safe for now, nothing is threatening that safety. No, not even her check charges. I am confident that she will likely walk with less than 5 years for all of it combined, if even that much.



So this tells me a few things, either they don't have the evidence she is dead or they are waiting to find an accomplice or they are waiting to find the body so they can charge her with murder one.

I don't know I really don't know what to think, but I am concerned that they haven't charged her yet with all the preliminary tests they claim to have.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I couldn't disagree more. There is nowhere near a 50/50 chance that Casey is right, or honest, or innocent, IMO.

As for heroes, I would look to Detectives Yuri Melich and John Allen and many of the people at the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

:beer: Ditto that sister.

[luvinlife]

Yes, Cindy's testimony during the bond hearing is very interesting.

Here's a decent link to decipher deception:

An analysis of Caylee Anthony's Disappearance
http://www.statementanalysis.com/caylee/

Please review the home page at the above link, as well as analyses of cases, famous and otherwise. The above link is a good read.



I wish he would do another one with all the new stuff that has come out. I find it fasinating.

[Rebel Rouzer]

So this tells me a few things, either they don't have the evidence she is dead or they are waiting to find an accomplice or they are waiting to find the body so they can charge her with murder one.

I don't know I really don't know what to think, but I am concerned that they haven't charged her yet with all the preliminary tests they claim to have.

I wouldn't worry too much. The charges will be filed with ot without a body. I believe they wanted to wait and find little Caylee's body before doing so but that doesn't mean they don't have enough to charge her with at this time and doesn't mean they wont charge her in the future without a body. I have faith, Based on what I know

[Zeus]

in those cases, it is important to say "no way, jose". we mustn't join the forces working against justice for caylee. jmo

Wow, such drama!!!

'Forces working against justice for Caylee.'

Get real!!!

[barskin&co.]

I wouldn't worry too much. The charges will be filed with ot without a body. I believe they wanted to wait and find little Caylee's body before doing so but that doesn't mean they don't have enough to charge her with at this time and doesn't mean they wont charge her in the future without a body. I have faith, Based on what I know

I have faith, as well. I believe Casey Anthony will be brought to justice for all her crimes against Caylee. And with that, I shall say goodnight. :seeya:

[aubrey04]

Yes, Cindy's testimony during the bond hearing is very interesting.

Here's a decent link to decipher deception:

An analysis of Caylee Anthony's Disappearance
http://www.statementanalysis.com/caylee/

Please review the home page at the above link, as well as analyses of cases, famous and otherwise. The above link is a good read.

Weird. While listening to Cindy's testimony -- I noticed how she would put emphasis on certain words and sentences. She used the words "actually" a lot too. It does make it seem like her words, like Casey's words, are forced and not sincere.

I was taught to always watch out for people who use the words/phrases, "honestly", "to tell you the truth", "I swear to you... 100%",.. a lot. Because they are trying to force you to believe them.

Why try to force it, if it isn't a lie?

JMO

[tiny paw-prints]

I found an interesting thread on WS about Casey's handwriting. No experts, but interesting none the less. At least to me.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70690&page=3

Thanks for the link! I'm going to go read that, brb...

I started reading the astrology thread over there, but due to lack of sleep, the chat about the positioning of the stars moon and venus had put me to sleep and I woke up with keyboard impressions on my forehead...lol

[aubrey04]

So this tells me a few things, either they don't have the evidence she is dead or they are waiting to find an accomplice or they are waiting to find the body so they can charge her with murder one.

I don't know I really don't know what to think, but I am concerned that they haven't charged her yet with all the preliminary tests they claim to have.

It's hard to say what evidence they have against her at this point. They don't need a body to file murder charges against her -- just enough evidence to prove that a death/murder took place and she is responsible for the death.

They have enough charges against her for child neglect and forging checks and her other various crimes.., which I believe have sufficient evidence for a conviction, to keep her in the clink for a few years. So they can hunt down every lead in the meantime to secure a conviction on murder, rather than risk getting an acquittal.

But who knows? Maybe she is one of the lucky murderers, like Drew Peterson, who get away with their crime..?

[luvinlife]

I wouldn't entirely rule out an accomplice, but I am also less than convinced that she had one. When more than one person knows a secret, the greater chance of someone slipping up. That's why more times than not, criminals work alone, particularly in murdering children.

I agree with your concern that they have not charged her, and to most in the legal field, it looks more than suspicious of inadequacy.


I don't actually believe she had an accomplice, I just threw that in there for a possible reason.

[luvinlife]

Thanks for the link! I'm going to go read that, brb...

I started reading the astrology thread over there, but due to lack of sleep, the chat about the positioning of the stars moon and venus had put me to sleep and I woke up with keyboard impressions on my forehead...lol


lol I had a hard time with the astrology one as well.

[luvinlife]

It's hard to say what evidence they have against her at this point. They don't need a body to file murder charges against her -- just enough evidence to prove that a death/murder took place and she is responsible for the death.

They have enough charges against her for child neglect and forging checks and her other various crimes.., which I believe have sufficient evidence for a conviction, to keep her in the clink for a few years. So they can hunt down every lead in the meantime to secure a conviction on murder, rather than risk getting an acquittal.

But who knows? Maybe she is one of the lucky murderers, like Drew Peterson, who get away with their crime..?



I know they don't need a body, but it sure wouldn't hurt.

I just meant the maybe without a body they don't have enough to charge her with a 1st degree murder meaning possible DP, without a body they may only have enough for a manslaughter or something.

I hope this makes sense, because I am confusing myself its very late.

[tiny paw-prints]

I wouldn't entirely rule out an accomplice, but I am also less than convinced that she had one. When more than one person knows a secret, the greater chance of someone slipping up. That's why more times than not, criminals work alone, particularly in murdering children.

I agree with your concern that they have not charged her, and to most in the legal field, it looks more than suspicious of inadequacy.

They took a lot of evidence from the Anthony home that we've not yet heard about, forensic and otherwise, as well as having collected evidence from Tony's apartment. I've always believed the body was once buried in the backyard and then somebody later moved it to another location.

[Carol25]

I don't mean to butt in here, but I think the charges haven't been filed yet because they don't have the entire story and they want the ENTIRE story. I think they are looking at accomplices to explain some of the facts in the case.

They have all the time they want or need. If C and G are involved in the cover up or accomplices after the fact, LE wants to be able to prove this BARD to put forward to the jury. The need the whole story.

I think C and G have given a lot of clues and they know it. That's why they now have a criminal defense attorney.

Time will tell. They are putting it together now. Give them the time they need. JMO

[Carol25]

Are you convinced that Caylee is deceased?
If someone has her, I'd say they have an IQ of a beet with the publicity all over the nation...:rolleyes:

[luvinlife]

They took a lot of evidence from the Anthony home that we've not yet heard about, forensic and otherwise, as well as having collected evidence from Tony's apartment. I've always believed the body was once buried in the backyard and then somebody later moved it to another location.



I believe that she may have put something in the backyard such as a blanket or something in the yard or when George and Cindy took stuff out of the car they placed it in the yard therefore the scent would transfer there. At least for the dogs it would.

[johnielee333]

Dont worry, LE will file murder charges against Casey very soon.
Remember, I am the fly on the wall ! :biggrin:

[mosey2]

I wouldn't entirely rule out an accomplice, but I am also less than convinced that she had one. When more than one person knows a secret, the greater chance of someone slipping up. That's why more times than not, criminals work alone, particularly in murdering children.

I agree with your concern that they have not charged her, and to most in the legal field, it looks more than suspicious of inadequacy.
What does "more than suspicious of inadequacy" mean? TIA

[mosey2]

I couldn't disagree more. There is nowhere near a 50/50 chance that Casey is right, or honest, or innocent, IMO.

As for heroes, I would look to Detectives Yuri Melich and John Allen and many of the people at the Orange County Sheriff's Office.
I totally agree 100% The detectives are on the front lines in this war. They have seen and heard more of the dark side of humanity than we will ever imagine. Underpaid, overworked, they are the TRUE heros:patriot: Forget Hollywood and Sports figures!

[mosey2]

I adamantly disagree that C and G know that the child is dead. They have given no indicate of that except for those who wish to magnify their emotional state and then run with it in nefarious directions. If anything, they have more than shown that they positively do believe that Caylee is alive. I'm not vouching that their belief is correct, only that it is what they truly believe.
I dont know. You know that old adage "be wary of those who overstate their case"
George screamin, "The body in the trunk is not my granddaughter"
Cindy, Oh Cindy, well, you know...

I would love for someone in the house to answer the phone and turn to Casey and say "Zanny's on the phone, she wants to talk to you"
Would Casey scurry across the room to the phone, or sit there with her mouth agape?

MOO

[mosey2]

There are many variables of inadequacy; but the main reference in my previous post pertained to testing and the results that followed.
Sorry if I came in late, but what testing specifically, what results, and whose inadequacy? Thanks

[luvinlife]

Particularly with the weeks of history and the escalation that the issue of protesters has taken, yes they most definitely can find themselves with a lawsuit.

The fact that it has gone on for weeks and they are continually notified of its increase in danger, I think those two factors won't produce favorable results in that lawsuit.

I think that the attorney for the Anthonys has recognized this as well, which resulted in the camera being installed on the Anthony home.


A question that was raised in the past and again last night.

In simple to understand terms if you know for Florida Law. What is the double jeopardy risk that was talked about reguarding the child neglect charges and a murder charge?

[mosey2]

I completely disagree.

Ask any LE if they have ever considered anyone at any time to be a hero in a child's death. If they have any decency, humility, or reverence and respect for the case, they will always answer NO. I think the same goes for anyone else who is looking for "excitement" or "heros", or anything else other than complete sadness in the reality that a child's life has been taken, with the mother as the guilty party.

<<Sigh>> But isn't that just like a hero, to deny his own heroism?
Acting upon what one feels to be right, truthful, and just are prerequisits to heroism, is it not. I think also heroism, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
There is nothing so ugly as a child's murder. But, the justice that follows is that much more precious.

[GrandmaGA]

I agree with you about the tax money and apparently so do many of the Florida residents. They're tiring of it in various ways, not only the Anthony neighbors being disturbed by it, but the news area encompassing Orlando. The protesters are the main feature of the nightly news there, when it should be about Caylee. Not Casey either, but Caylee. The protesters are tainting Caylee's name by their actions and lack of intelligence when they should instead gather and peacefully pray FOR Caylee.

I believe that LE is allowing it to continue because they don't have the evidence to charge Casey, so they are hoping to boost whatever they are someday left with, with poisoned public opinion. As I said, they look suspiciously inadequate with their negligence as well as their grandstanding. Most in the legal field have also voiced this to be true.

ITA. None of this should be played out in the media but IMO that is all LE has. Leaks and poisoning public opinion.

[mosey2]

I agree with you about the tax money and apparently so do many of the Florida residents. They're tiring of it in various ways, not only the Anthony neighbors being disturbed by it, but the news area encompassing Orlando. The protesters are the main feature of the nightly news there, when it should be about Caylee. Not Casey either, but Caylee. The protesters are tainting Caylee's name by their actions and lack of intelligence when they should instead gather and peacefully pray FOR Caylee.

I believe that LE is allowing it to continue because they don't have the evidence to charge Casey, so they are hoping to boost whatever they are someday left with, with poisoned public opinion. As I said, they look suspiciously inadequate with their negligence as well as their grandstanding. Most in the legal field have also voiced this to be true.
Oh for crying out loud. LE has NOT "poisoned public opinion" Casey's uncaring attitude has taken care of THAT front.
What exactly is LE "allowing". Protesters? No the LE doesnt "allow" that the Constitution of the United States "allows" that!
You know "To express or publish one's opinions or those of others." or "to assemble peaceably"

And how in the world can you make the statement that most in the legal field agree with you on the point of LE being inadequate. Did you get out and canvass everyone in the profession to make that assinine conclusion or is this just a straw-poll you came up with on another board?
LE is competent, I believe, and will swoop in with an arrest when they are dern good 'n ready. You have no clue as to the goings on with the Orange County Detective Squad.

MOO, respectively

[mosey2]

I have yet to meet any LE who has taken "pride" in recovering a dead child. The thought of that is disgusting and preposterous, and both defense and prosecution have both been known to cry at conviction, no matter who "wins" the case. It's called being humble, reverent, and solemn in the knowledge that there are no heros in a dead child's case, as well as the sheer reality that monsters like that walk among us, and even though one is caught and tried, there are thousands if not millions more out there.

I hope you never have to, but perhaps if you ever witnessed a child's dead body, it would humble you and take the wind out of your gleeful hero sail.

Goodnight.
Why the heck are you quoting "pride"? I didnt use the word ONCE in my posting. And did you say you work in the legal field?

[tiny paw-prints]

Human Remains Found Marion Co., FL

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71143

:eek:

[johnielee333]

i dont believe LE poisoned public opinion. i believe Casey & her family did, by their words & actions. those are most of the reasons i believe Casey is guilty of murdering Caylee plus LE's evidence that has came out. LE is doing a good job IMO.

[nutterbutter]

I adamantly disagree that C and G know that the child is dead. They have given no indicate of that except for those who wish to magnify their emotional state and then run with it in nefarious directions. If anything, they have more than shown that they positively do believe that Caylee is alive. I'm not vouching that their belief is correct, only that it is what they truly believe.
then why so many lies and half truths?wjo do they think the dead body was?they have given (moo) more than enough actions and inactions to speak that they know Caylee is dead.There actions speak of cover up to me.

[cutiepatootie61]

then why so many lies and half truths?wjo do they think the dead body was?they have given (moo) more than enough actions and inactions to speak that they know Caylee is dead.There actions speak of cover up to me.


If the Anthony's felt an ounce of hope that Caylee were alive, they'd get off their own asses and search for her. No matter who was under suspicion of harming her, if they truly thought she was alive, they'd be searching, knocking on doors as Cindy vowed she'd do, anything and everything in their power to find that child. They've done none of it. The only time they searched, was when they brought the decomposing car home and they conducted a search of their own backyard. They've not looked outside of their own property, what does that tell ya?

[nutterbutter]

ITA. None of this should be played out in the media but IMO that is all LE has. Leaks and poisoning public opinion.
Maybe you need to listen in depth to some of the rantings of George,Cindy and Lee and you might see who causes "leaks" and bad public opinions of the Anthony family.I believe it began with a 31 day delay in reporting a dead or missing child and has been in full cover up mode since.Smells like a dead body in the dAM car?wonder whom they think that may be?Nanny or Zanny?George and Cindy have done real well
and poisoning public opinion.moo

[marshmallow]

Maybe you need to listen in depth to some of the rantings of George,Cindy and Lee and you might see who causes "leaks" and bad public opinions of the Anthony family.I believe it began with a 31 day delay in reporting a dead or missing child and has been in full cover up mode since.Smells like a dead body in the dAM car?wonder whom they think that may be?Nanny or Zanny?George and Cindy have done real well
and poisoning public opinion.moo



good morning. I'm about to go read the news and see if anything's changed since I went to bed. I can't help but wonder though, how one expects that someone who lost their child should not be held accountable. For some reason that thought's in my head this morning.