sunday 9-14-08 afternoon/evening thread.

[nutterbutter]

please continue here.

[nutterbutter]

thanks! wonder if they will be having the vigil tonight may be why the men are standing at the front door. Looks like the b/g car.:shrug:
I wonder about the vigil also.does anyone know?thanks

[day2day]

I wonder about the vigil also.does anyone know?thanks

I don't think it will be a great idea to have the vigil. jmo

[orbison11]

rebelrouser===you have a pm

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[snowflakes]

I don't think it will be a great idea to have the vigil. jmo

They seem to enjoy the attention. Maybe Casey will show up.
:rolleyes:

[oldbluesmith]

I'm with you all too. Thanks, Nutterbutter. :)

[kitty1182]

They seem to enjoy the attention. Maybe Casey will show up.
:rolleyes:

I hope she runs..LOL

[marshmallow]

I wonder about the vigil also.does anyone know?thanks

I hope that the vigil, if it's scheduled, is moved. I think a vigil is a good idea but not held at the house.

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to begin.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[AJandTam]

I don't think it will be a great idea to have the vigil. jmo

No this is getting way to heated.

[Joan Weiss]

I brought this over because I want to address it.


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Oh no, i've been out a few days again. Was there another scene outside the Anthony home? TIA.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2...rotesters.html

Yes but looking at the video link on the right of the article, it was the child's families' fault. Taking small children out after dark, teaching them to yell baby killer and then slamming the door on their arm while being pulled away from a possible fight in the making is disgraceful.


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[/QUOTE] This is your spin on it. It didn't happen exactly like that. The only part I could possibly agree with is that it was dark out. However, the child was with it's parent. There's no law that says children cannot be out with a parent after dark. imo

Try again.

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[Shellberry]

dang! bringing this over

I think after the fights, the gun in George's car, the charges against George, it's been just too, too much! Something could happen much too easily! Lee is getting into altercations, Cindy, too.

x-wives rarely speak highly of their past husbands.

lol, that is the truth, same thing for ex husbands.
they are exes for a reason.
it didnt work out.
some people cant/wont let go of animosity & will do whatever to make the other party look as bad as possible

imo/jmo

[aubrey04]

I hope she runs..LOL

Why? Where do you hope she runs to?.. if it isn't to county jail (or death row).. then I disagree.

hammer

[st777jo]

Im here:seeya:

Hi Flmom, your said: I was totally wrong on this one, re: the video.

I don't think you were wrong, or need to apologize. There were 3 video's out there before the extended one. Thats what we all went on, the first 3. And I agree with your posts.

All protesters, no matter where or what, LEAVE YOUR CHILDREN HOME!!!!

Cindy, could you please tell everyone why did you come out at midnight to hammer when you knew, you knew, there were people outside your house?

[Kathlb]

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This is from page 2 of the libnks page, post #52:

7/17/2008 A ORDER - COURT DENIES BAIL BECAUSE NO CONDITION OF RELEASE CAN REASONABLY PROTECT THE COMMUNITY,

Quoting Joan Weiss:
Perhaps they should visit this condition again....JMO
That's a great find, Carol.

I have been feeling for several weeks that everyone would be safer if Casey were back in jail. imo


Bringing this over from the other thread. The reason I asked this was because I*think* the judge can revoke bail for these reasons. I was asking if anyone knew for sure. No one ever said they did. I agree Joan, it should be visited again after the crazy happenings between the Anthonys and protesters seemingly almost every day. Both sides are playing to it and someone is going to get hurt. MOO Thanks!

[day2day]

No this is getting way to heated.

Hi Tam..
Yes it is!! But like i have been sayin~there really is a simple solution to this. Take the princess back to her new castle. jmo

[Shellberry]

Whew!! I didn't think we'd ever bust 1000 posts today!!!!

board seemed slow today. bluwaters thanks for the great links, it got me caught up since Friday.:read:

lol
I was very surprised earlier when I got on and saw there was only 200 some posts in the thread.

Im glad Sundays are 'easy' here.
I think I've been able to catch up just about all day.


wasnt there supposed to be a vigil in tampa this weekend?
I looked and looked for it but couldnt find any info
for caylee, trenton and other missing children (?)


imo/jmo

[Joan Weiss]

I hope that the vigil, if it's scheduled, is moved. I think a vigil is a good idea but not held at the house.I haven't seen any problems at any of the vigils. What I saw was respectful silence. imo

[AJandTam]

I brought this over because I want to address it.


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Oh no, i've been out a few days again. Was there another scene outside the Anthony home? TIA.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2...rotesters.html

Yes but looking at the video link on the right of the article, it was the child's families' fault. Taking small children out after dark, teaching them to yell baby killer and then slamming the door on their arm while being pulled away from a possible fight in the making is disgraceful.


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This is your spin on it. It didn't happen exactly like that. The only part I could possibly agree with is that it was dark out. However, the child was with it's parent. There's no law that says children cannot be out with a parent after dark. imo

Try again.

I don't personally think anyone should take children to any type of emotional protest at all. Day or night. JMO

[kitty1182]

Why? Where do you hope she runs to?.. if it isn't to county jail (or death row).. then I disagree.

hammer

As long as she attempts to run she can be placed back in jail...:tongue:

[LouBLou]

What's the situation with Caylee's dad? I know he's supposed to be dead but has a name been released? Do any of his family know that he has a child? I've tried searching but can't find much info on this.bb
I hope it's ok to ask this question here, just ignore me it it's not! thanks

[aubrey04]

As long as she attempts to run she can be placed back in jail...:tongue:

Aha. I like your thinking. ;)

[kitty1182]

What's the situation with Caylee's dad? I know he's supposed to be dead but has a name been released? Do any of his family know that he has a child? I've tried searching but can't find much info on this.bb
I hope it's ok to ask this question here, just ignore me it it's not! thanks

Hi and Welcome...I don't think anyone knows, including Casey who the dad is..IMO, it could be one of many..

[AJandTam]

Hi Tam..
Yes it is!! But like i have been sayin~there really is a simple solution to this. Take the princess back to her new castle. jmo


Yes, I think she needs to go back to the castle as as well.

[day2day]

I don't personally think anyone should take children to any type of emotional protest at all. Day or night. JMO

I agree Tam. People really are getting emotional over this. I would be afraid someone would bring a gun or somethin...I would NOT be leaving my house and screaming-thats for sure

meliss---->:chicken:

[MyrDawn]

I haven't seen any problems at any of the vigils. What I saw was respectful silence. imo

Same here. It would take a real looney to try to pull something at a vigil, IMO.

[kitty1182]

Aha. I like your thinking. ;)

Heck, I would help her out the window..

[Pag Boi]

Since we know that something like this exists, don't you think that it should be adressed now? Even the Anthony's feels there's danger lurking if they have hired guards...

Carol, I feel strongly that the constitution should not be disregarded just because of this high profile case. I may not like the results of it being followed but laws are laws.


I find it quite disturbing she hasn't been charged with a more serious offense. If the decomp fluid is there, book her. Then they can bring up the bond hearing for the new charge(s). I hate to admit that murderers, rapists, and child molesters are released on lower bond than Casey's every day. :flamemad: But it happens. There are people much more violent out on our streets than Casey.

If only such a fuss had been made over the precious life of little Caylee :rose:

[AJandTam]

And the sad truth of the matter is it could all be over in 5 mins if Casey would just tell the truth and where she has put this poor child.

:seeya: Breeze

Yes, I think so too. I do believe she knows. IMHO

[KKKKKKatie]

CW has posted a new "sticky" for us.....

[Joan Weiss]

I don't personally think anyone should take children to any type of emotional protest at all. Day or night. JMOThat was not my point. I was addressing the spin on your intake of info. imo

[AJandTam]

[QUOTE=Joan Weiss;12118265]I brought this over because I want to address it.


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Oh no, i've been out a few days again. Was there another scene outside the Anthony home? TIA.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2...rotesters.html

Yes but looking at the video link on the right of the article, it was the child's families' fault. Taking small children out after dark, teaching them to yell baby killer and then slamming the door on their arm while being pulled away from a possible fight in the making is disgraceful.



Yes, am sure we will be seeing children like this in the penal system when they come of age. Not IF but WHEN. See that mother teaching her child the same behavior and him mimiking her to a "T". I have a feeling this child and even possibly the woman are no strangers to violence too. The whole mess looked like an episode of "Cops" IMO.

You are totally right about that looking like an episode of cops.

[aubrey04]

What's the situation with Caylee's dad? I know he's supposed to be dead but has a name been released? Do any of his family know that he has a child? I've tried searching but can't find much info on this.bb
I hope it's ok to ask this question here, just ignore me it it's not! thanks


There is a lot of confusion on who Caylee's father is. IIRC, at first- Casey pinned the paternity on Jesse Grund, but he supposedly took a DNA test and was found to NOT be the father. His father was on Greta one night talking about it.. it seems he really bonded with Caylee and he was very torn up about it all.

Next up.. Casey told friends that Caylee's father was dead. From what I understand a man named Jesus Ortiz, who went to HS with Casey,..and who died in an automobile accident was named a potential father. I would have to find the links, but there are news reports that state that Ortiz's family have retained lawyers to find out whether Jesus was Caylee's father or not.. they do NOT think he's the father because they think he would have told them.

There are other names of potential fathers that have been floated, but the bottom line is...nobody knows who Caylee's father is.. and I don't even think Casey knows. (although she might have narrowed down to a certain amt of people).

[bluwaters]

I haven't seen any problems at any of the vigils. What I saw was respectful silence. imo

I thought that it was getting heated last week, especially all the jeers and yells during the Lord's Prayer.

Caylee Anthony Vigil 9/7 - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFI75NIJ0_4

Caylee Anthony Vigil 9/7 - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq1B36V1J9M

Caylee Anthony Vigil 9/7 - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAILiSHHshw

[AJandTam]

I agree Tam. People really are getting emotional over this. I would be afraid someone would bring a gun or somethin...I would NOT be leaving my house and screaming-thats for sure

meliss---->:chicken:

Wouldn't surprise me either.

[st777jo]

Heck, I would help her out the window..

Casey, the next time your parents go out front, meet me out back. ok?

On the extended video, did anyone hear loud mouth Cindy tell loud mouth protester,

Everytime Casey went out, Caylee was with her?

[trich]

If they do hold the vigil tonight I hope the protestors will respect it and not do anything stupid.
I agree they have the right to protest but not during a vigil....no matter how they feel about the Anthonys.

Saying that I hope the Anthonys will be respectful also.

[Joan Weiss]

dang! bringing this over





lol, that is the truth, same thing for ex husbands.
they are exes for a reason.
it didnt work out.
some people cant/wont let go of animosity & will do whatever to make the other party look as bad as possible

imo/jmoThat doesn't mean it's not true. Ask Stacy Peterson, if you can find her. imo

[AJandTam]

Very true in general, but particularly when the supposed "parents" of a small kid like that coaches him to trash-talk grown adults - which this kid is seen doing throughout this video.

That we can agree on 100 %.

[KKKKKKatie]

If they do hold the vigil tonight I hope the protestors will respect it and not do anything stupid.
I agree they have the right to protest but not during a vigil....no matter how they feel about the Anthonys.

Saying that I hope the Anthonys will be respectful also.


I don't understand why they don't hold it in the back yard? It's not like there are hundreds of ppl that attend :shrug:

[day2day]

I don't understand why they don't hold it in the back yard? It's not like there are hundreds of ppl that attend :shrug:

That would be an easy solution. jmo

[Kathlb]

Casey, the next time your parents go out front, meet me out back. ok?

On the extended video, did anyone hear loud mouth Cindy tell loud mouth protester,

Everytime Casey went out, Caylee was with her?

She also said that every time Casey went out to party she and George watched Caylee. We all know that's a lie since they didn't know where she was when Casey was partying that last month. jmho

[LouBLou]

Thanks kitty1182. If it's yet another lie that he's dead, it's really sad to think there's a father somewhere that could have been happy to bring up his daughter given the chance. Even if he is dead, there's possibly another set of grandparents who don't even know about Caylee.

[Shellberry]

CW has posted a new "sticky" for us.....

If you can't handle the remarks then I guess you shouldn't be here.
Try Politics -
THANK YOU CW!!!

That is something that needs to be posted at the top of every thread, imo.

[KKKKKKatie]

That would be an easy solution. jmo

just like not coming outside to fix signs when people are there.....I just don't get it :confused:

[SavannahStar]

I don't understand why they don't hold it in the back yard? It's not like there are hundreds of ppl that attend :shrug:

It's their front yard and if they want to have it in their front yard that should be respected. Should they just be bullied into staying inside or in their backyard? That's disturbing!

[st777jo]

That's like saying if a child is on the floor of the supermarket throwing a hissy-fit over demanding candy, you should just give into the hissy-fit and grant him his demands.

Casey had a right to Bond, and just because the public doesn't like it should not equate to giving into their demands in order for there to be peace from pretend protesters who haven't the intelligence to know how to conduct themselves.


Or the intelligence to stay inside when their are protesters outside.

[farrahrani]

I brought this over because I want to address it.


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Oh no, i've been out a few days again. Was there another scene outside the Anthony home? TIA.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2...rotesters.html

Yes but looking at the video link on the right of the article, it was the child's families' fault. Taking small children out after dark, teaching them to yell baby killer and then slamming the door on their arm while being pulled away from a possible fight in the making is disgraceful.


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This is your spin on it. It didn't happen exactly like that. The only part I could possibly agree with is that it was dark out. However, the child was with it's parent. There's no law that says children cannot be out with a parent after dark. imo

Try again.[/QUOTE]

Spin? I never said it was illegal to bring a child out after dark, or to a protest.

Who taught the children to yell baby killer? Who brought them there? I doubt it was the Anthony family. Maybe it was, but somehow I doubt it highly.

Unless there is something wrong with my vision, which there might very well be, as the video was fast, it looked to me like the door was slammed on the child while the mom was being restrained by the young man with her. It looked to me like he was pulling her back, and leaning on the door, which then slammed on the child's arm. But maybe I missed something on the video. Maybe that part was Cindy's fault? Not sure...maybe I'm wrong on that point. It will be interesting to see if they attempt to sue for hospital expenses in the event I'm wrong, lol.

[Celiarun]

I brought this over because I want to address it.


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Oh no, i've been out a few days again. Was there another scene outside the Anthony home? TIA.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2...rotesters.html

Yes but looking at the video link on the right of the article, it was the child's families' fault. Taking small children out after dark, teaching them to yell baby killer and then slamming the door on their arm while being pulled away from a possible fight in the making is disgraceful.


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This is your spin on it. It didn't happen exactly like that. The only part I could possibly agree with is that it was dark out. However, the child was with it's parent. There's no law that says children cannot be out with a parent after dark. imo

Try again.[/QUOTE]

There are laws that apply to parents who intentionally expose their children to situations that are dangerous. Standing in the middle of a street hurling expletives at strangers in order to provoke a confrontation is dangerous behavior.

[Joan Weiss]

George talking with the bodyguards...

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[AJandTam]

That was not my point. I was addressing the spin on your intake of info. imo


Sorry I missed your point Joan. Honestly, IMHO, this standing in the streets screaming at the Anthony's and carrying signs is a bit silly. It doesn't really accomplish anything, and definately not the type of setting that little children should be in. If they feel the need to get involved. Start a petition, make an internet website, stuff like that. The LE are working on the case, until they get a case together, nothing is going to happen. Casey will not confess because of protesters...that's just how it is.

[SavannahStar]

Thanks kitty1182. If it's yet another lie that he's dead, it's really sad to think there's a father somewhere that could have been happy to bring up his daughter given the chance. Even if he is dead, there's possibly another set of grandparents who don't even know about Caylee.


And it's possible there's a father out there somewhere that made it clear that he wanted nothing to do with Caylee.

[day2day]

That's like saying if a child is on the floor of the supermarket throwing a hissy-fit over demanding candy, you should just give into the hissy-fit and grant him his demands.

Casey had a right to Bond, and just because the public doesn't like it should not equate to giving into their demands in order for there to be peace from pretend protesters who haven't the intelligence to know how to conduct themselves.

Cindy Anthony had choices in this too. She could have easily went back inside to her princess. It is my fear that before this is over, George/Cindy/Lee will end up hurting someone badly and THEY will be in prison-while Casey remains free.

That being said. ...The Anthony's are NOT the only ones in the country with rights...the proster has rights too.
jmo

[st777jo]

She also said that every time Casey went out to party she and George watched Caylee. We all know that's a lie since they didn't know where she was when Casey was partying that last month. jmho

Or the need for a "nanny" for 2 or so years.

[day2day]

And it's possible there's a father out there somewhere that made it clear that he wanted nothing to do with Caylee.

Savannah-
Was it you who said your pastor talked about forgiveness this morning?
...If so you should have picked me up! :seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

This is your spin on it. It didn't happen exactly like that. The only part I could possibly agree with is that it was dark out. However, the child was with it's parent. There's no law that says children cannot be out with a parent after dark. imo

Try again.

There are laws that apply to parents who intentionally expose their children to situations that are dangerous. Standing in the middle of a street hurling expletives at strangers in order to provoke a confrontation is dangerous behavior.[/QUOTE]That may be, but it's done all the time. I see it many places, even in my own neighborhood. LE doesn't stop it, why? Because it's not illegal. imo

[KKKKKKatie]

It's their front yard and if they want to have it in their front yard that should be respected. Should they just be bullied into staying inside or in their backyard? That's disturbing!

Did I say that? No. IMO if the protesters or whoever are upsetting to them why not have it in the back yard in peace? Do you really think, with Caylee missing, now is the time they should be fighting this fight? I thought the vigil was for Caylee and not to demonstrate their civil rights? It just doesn't make sense to me if they want something civil and respectful for Caylee.

[aubrey04]

Anyone notice that the camera zoomed into the license plate when the protester was leaving.. at the VERY end, the camera panned to the license plate and lingered.

Wonder why?

:confused:

Maybe the cameraman was disgusted by it all, too?

[KKKKKKatie]

Because if they are in the back yard then they wont know whats going on in the front yard .......plain and simple imo

yes they will...they put in their own camera on the front of the yard IMO

[AJandTam]

:seeya: good to see you! But i wont hold my breath on her telling us where she is tho


Yeah, I think that's pretty much out of the question.

[st777jo]

Maybe the vigil should be in the back, have it around Caylee's play house and make Casey come out to, even you have to hog tie her. jmo

[Shellberry]

That doesn't mean it's not true. Ask Stacy Peterson, if you can find her. imo

ask her what? what does she have to do with this?
I speak from experience with this one.





imo/jmo

[SavannahStar]

Savannah-
Was it you who said your pastor talked about forgiveness this morning?
...If so you should have picked me up! :seeya:

Can you be more specific? Is there someone that you know I haven't forgiven for something? TIA. Otherwise, why would you post something like that? Maybe this should be handled via PM? Because I have no clue what you're talking about. Sounds like a bashing post to me, though! :seeya:

[AJandTam]

This is your spin on it. It didn't happen exactly like that. The only part I could possibly agree with is that it was dark out. However, the child was with it's parent. There's no law that says children cannot be out with a parent after dark. imo

Try again.

There are laws that apply to parents who intentionally expose their children to situations that are dangerous. Standing in the middle of a street hurling expletives at strangers in order to provoke a confrontation is dangerous behavior.[/QUOTE]


Yes, there are some places that children just shouldn't be taken too. IMHO. Protest, bars ect....

[day2day]

Can you be more specific? Is there someone that you know I haven't forgiven for something? TIA. Otherwise, why would you post something like that? Maybe this should be handled via PM? Because I have no clue what you're talking about. Sounds like a bashing post to me, though! :seeya:

No no no ...I wasn't bashing you at all. I was saying -I needed to hear the sermon on forgiveness.

Sorry....:(

[KKKKKKatie]

There are laws that apply to parents who intentionally expose their children to situations that are dangerous. Standing in the middle of a street hurling expletives at strangers in order to provoke a confrontation is dangerous behavior.


Yes, there are some places that children just shouldn't be taken too. IMHO. Protest, bars ect....[/QUOTE]


I used to be a flight attendant and had a guy arrested once for cursing at me in front of little kids. The Feds that met the plane took it very seriously

[rosejustrose]

Anyone notice that the camera zoomed into the license plate when the protester was leaving.. at the VERY end, the camera panned to the license plate and lingered.

Wonder why?

:confused:

Maybe the cameraman was disgusted by it all, too?

Probably so they can identify the driver and get an interview:rolleyes:

[Joan Weiss]

Sorry I missed your point Joan. Honestly, IMHO, this standing in the streets screaming at the Anthony's and carrying signs is a bit silly. It doesn't really accomplish anything, and definately not the type of setting that little children should be in. If they feel the need to get involved. Start a petition, make an internet website, stuff like that. The LE are working on the case, until they get a case together, nothing is going to happen. Casey will not confess because of protesters...that's just how it is.In your opinion it may be "silly." Generally, I do not think protests are silly. That's a slap in the face, imo.

I don't think anyone can tell those protesters not to do it. In the old days, there were lynch mobs.

I think this case brings up a lot of strong emotion. That's just how it is. imo

[Celiarun]

There are laws that apply to parents who intentionally expose their children to situations that are dangerous. Standing in the middle of a street hurling expletives at strangers in order to provoke a confrontation is dangerous behavior.That may be, but it's done all the time. I see it many places, even in my own neighborhood. LE doesn't stop it, why? Because it's not illegal. imo[/QUOTE]


It is illegal to intentionally create and expose a child to a dangerous situation.

Police can't intervene unless they are notified and if you'd take the time to watch the entire video, you will see that the camera captured the license number. :rolleyes:

[MyrDawn]

I was wondering why the A's didn't hold the vigil in their backyard, too, until I took another look at the video of it (while it was being searched). IMO, it's pretty small and very crowded with all kinds of stuff, and doesn't look like many people would fit in there.
http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/Concrete-slab-in-question-in-Caylee-Anthony-case-/1216996164.html

[Joan Weiss]

Yes, there are some places that children just shouldn't be taken too. IMHO. Protest, bars ect....


I used to be a flight attendant and had a guy arrested once for cursing at me in front of little kids. The Feds that met the plane took it very seriously[/QUOTE]A plane is not public property.

[SavannahStar]

No no no ...I wasn't bashing you at all. I was saying -I needed to hear the sermon on forgiveness.

Sorry....:(

I apologize. I misinterpret your post. I am very, very sorry. :rose:

[Shellberry]

There are laws that apply to parents who intentionally expose their children to situations that are dangerous. Standing in the middle of a street hurling expletives at strangers in order to provoke a confrontation is dangerous behavior.That may be, but it's done all the time. I see it many places, even in my own neighborhood. LE doesn't stop it, why? Because it's not illegal. imo
sounds like child endangerment to me.

In US law, endangerment comprises several types of crimes involving conduct that is wrongful and reckless or wanton, and likely to produce death or grievous bodily harm to another person.

The offense is intended to prohibit and therefore deter reckless or wanton conduct that wrongfully creates a substantial risk of death or serious injury to others.

The law specifies several types of endangerment:

* Child endangerment: placing a child in a potentially harmful situation, either through negligence or misconduct.

* Reckless endangerment: A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. “Reckless” conduct is conduct that exhibits a culpable disregard of foreseeable consequences to others from the act or omission involved. The accused need not intentionally cause a resulting harm or know that his conduct is substantially certain to cause that result. The ultimate question is whether, under all the circumstances, the accused’s conduct was of that heedless nature that made it actually or imminently dangerous to the rights or safety of others.

Endangerment can range from a misdemeanor to a felony.



Link Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangerment)

[rosejustrose]

Maybe the vigil should be in the back, have it around Caylee's play house and make Casey come out to, even you have to hog tie her. jmo


I think that's a good idea, having it in the back. Obviously the grieving mother can't attend if it's held out front. She may be in danger. Out back she'll be safe and can pay tribute to her kidnapped and quite possibly dead little girl. I'm sure it will do Casey's heart good to pray for Caylee's safe return.barf

JMO.

[nana6]

Hi, I just go on today. Tell me, did I miss anything big? I looked at the web cam number 1 a minute ago and G was out in the front with what looked like 2 body guards.:)

[Joan Weiss]

That may be, but it's done all the time. I see it many places, even in my own neighborhood. LE doesn't stop it, why? Because it's not illegal. imo


It is illegal to intentionally create and expose a child to a dangerous situation.

Police can't intervene unless they are notified and if you'd take the time to watch the entire video, you will see that the camera captured the license number. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]The child was in his mother's car. Cindy came over and created the situation.

[hamebone]

are the quotes looking funky or is it my computer?

[martha]

I really don;t see any reason for the protesters to be there. Nothing they say is bothering the anthonys. casey sure don;t care what they think of her. Yes the anthonys need to go to their back yard. It sure would make things a lot quiter.jmho:rose:

[AJandTam]

Yes, there are some places that children just shouldn't be taken too. IMHO. Protest, bars ect....


I used to be a flight attendant and had a guy arrested once for cursing at me in front of little kids. The Feds that met the plane took it very seriously[/QUOTE]


If only adults could remember when they were children.

[Joan Weiss]

sounds like child endangerment to me.



Link Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangerment)Congratulations. You just absolved Cindy of all responsibility. Where does it say that the Anthonys are free to assault anyone? imo

[snowflakes]

Hi, I just go on today. Tell me, did I miss anything big? I looked at the web cam number 1 a minute ago and G was out in the front with what looked like 2 body guards.:)


They've been in the same position for hours. It's stuck. jmo

[rosejustrose]

are the quotes looking funky or is it my computer?

Unless my computer has the same illness yours has they're looking funky.

[day2day]

I apologize. I misinterpret your post. I am very, very sorry. :rose:

No need to apologize..its ok-happens to me all the time!

[farrahrani]

Congratulations. You just absolved Cindy of all responsibility. Where does it say that the Anthonys are free to assault anyone? imo

I'm a little confused. Please don't report this post as well, since I am just asking a question. Where did Cindy assault someone? Can someone give me a link? What did I miss?

[Joan Weiss]

No protests are not silly, there pathetic and for LOSERS.You calling Martin Luther King and the freedom fighters "losers?":eek:

[st777jo]

My theory is the same. I believe that Cindy had Caylee and something terrible happened. I believe that the flurry of calls to her parents was to find out; where was Caylee, why wouldnt anyone answer? I believe that all three sat down and prepared this alibi using the 9th date, and they have screwed themselves by doing so; becuase It's a lie. I think she drowned, and they took her remains somewhere, and there is nothing left of her now. I think they have been all lying from the beginning even before those three 911 calls. I believe if they did a voice annaylsis of Cindy on the last 911 call it will prove decpetion. I believe her only concern was the money the car, and taking Caylee away from Casey. She threatened this on the tapes.
I dont think for a minute that she is alive; otherwise there wouldnt have been a need for an elaborate cover up. Cindy, you smelled her dead body in that Trunk. George, I believe you saw her in that trunk when you opened it. And I believe on the Tapes from Greta you were lying plain and simple. Its as plain as day to me. You wont even look up as you both try to spin this stupid story. A made up "script" that I believe you told your daughter, go on as if nothing has happened. And she did. We have the photos to prove that. And she will NOT throw her parents under the bus, but all four will gladly throw Caylee under the bus. It's a done deal.

Dots......................



Respectfully disagree. I just can't see Cindy not screaming or not calling 911 if that were the case of Caylee drowning on Cindy's watch. Mostly not after the 911 call. And last, Casey's lying in the doc's. She is just too, too cold for me. jmo

[AJandTam]

In your opinion it may be "silly." Generally, I do not think protests are silly. That's a slap in the face, imo.

I don't think anyone can tell those protesters not to do it. In the old days, there were lynch mobs.

I think this case brings up a lot of strong emotion. That's just how it is. imo

Yes, I can't say that I have nice things to say about this family myself. We are not totally on different sides of the fence. People can protest all they want too. I'm just saying that signs and screaming out in front of someones house or whatever place someone might feel the need to protest against, is a bit out of date. In years past, that was about the only method folks had, but today, we have better ways. JMO. They can take thier frustrations out on thier keyboard at night after thier kids go to bed.

[day2day]

No protests are not silly, there pathetic and for LOSERS.

It is their right to protest. Just like I think its silly that Casey is out on bond-typin on her myspace account-and her little girls body is out there somewhere . It is still her right to bond.

[Celiarun]

It is illegal to intentionally create and expose a child to a dangerous situation.

Police can't intervene unless they are notified and if you'd take the time to watch the entire video, you will see that the camera captured the license number. :rolleyes:The child was in his mother's car. Cindy came over and created the situation.[/QUOTE]

No, the child was standing in the middle of the street with his mother hurling expletives at Cindy, who was in her own yard. At the end of the video, the kid is rolling around in the street and his mother pays no attention to him, she's still busy hurling insults at Cindy.

[margaret kep]

There is a lot of confusion on who Caylee's father is. IIRC, at first- Casey pinned the paternity on Jesse Grund, but he supposedly took a DNA test and was found to NOT be the father. His father was on Greta one night talking about it.. it seems he really bonded with Caylee and he was very torn up about it all.

Next up.. Casey told friends that Caylee's father was dead. From what I understand a man named Jesus Ortiz, who went to HS with Casey,..and who died in an automobile accident was named a potential father. I would have to find the links, but there are news reports that state that Ortiz's family have retained lawyers to find out whether Jesus was Caylee's father or not.. they do NOT think he's the father because they think he would have told them.

There are other names of potential fathers that have been floated, but the bottom line is...nobody knows who Caylee's father is.. and I don't even think Casey knows. (although she might have narrowed down to a certain amt of people).




Hi evryone. I don't post much, just when i remember something. i thought Ricardo said casey once told him Caylee's dad was named Brad.:(:confused::shrug:

[bluwaters]

And the sad truth of the matter is it could all be over in 5 mins if Casey would just tell the truth and where she has put this poor child.
I know, that is the truth. :(

[KKKKKKatie]

I used to be a flight attendant and had a guy arrested once for cursing at me in front of little kids. The Feds that met the plane took it very seriouslyA plane is not public property.[/QUOTE]

that wasn't my point Joan...my point was that cursing in front of kids and other objectionable activity can get you in trouble. Doesn't matter if it is public property or not IMO

[overflow123]

Hello everyone I was just wondering if there was a LE briefing as I was at school at week and I thought I read that somewhere when I got home to see the updates could you please tell me where if there was one please thank you

[Celiarun]

It is their right to protest. Just like I think its silly that Casey is out on bond-typin on her myspace account-and her little girls body is out there somewhere . It is still her right to bond.

It is not their right to harrass and create a public nuisance. Standing in the middle of a public street at night is a dangerous activity.

[nana6]

does anyoneknow what time they normally have the vigil?

[rosejustrose]

I think she verbally ripped that woman a new one; and we can see where Casey learned her behavior from. I have no problem using the F word myself, I have a sailor mouth and I know it. Thing is knowing when to restrain yourself it seems this family, has no common sense or "restraint".

Did GA's first wife really say he was violent and a pathological liar? Does anyone have a link for that info? Or that he put someone thru a window?


On CL there is thread about Cindy Anthony's Brother talks. Apparently Cindy's brother was posting on a forum, his identity was verified and he had some very interesting things to say. He did mention a lot of personal information about George, his former car dealership, etc. I'm not sure if we're allowed to post links so I'll err on the side of caution.

[AJandTam]

Hi Tam it's great to see you huge hugs. :rose:

Am sorry that we only see each other on missing persons threads.

Dots

:seeya: Jenny. LTNS.

Me too. Every case seems to get worse and worse huh?

[Joan Weiss]

The child was in his mother's car. Cindy came over and created the situation.

No, the child was standing in the middle of the street with his mother hurling expletives at Cindy, who was in her own yard. At the end of the video, the kid is rolling around in the street and his mother pays no attention to him, she's still busy hurling insults at Cindy.[/QUOTE]There are two film clips on that video. I would like to know if the second clip was preceding the altercation. I happen to think it was. imo

[day2day]

http://www.wftv.com/video/17432761/index.html

Thanks for the link. That is just terrible. Is there anyone out there that isn't tryin to make a dollar off this littleone :(

[st777jo]

The child was in his mother's car. Cindy came over and created the situation.

No, the child was standing in the middle of the street with his mother hurling expletives at Cindy, who was in her own yard. At the end of the video, the kid is rolling around in the street and his mother pays no attention to him, she's still busy hurling insults at Cindy.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, but I don't quite see it that way. The woman kept her distance. Cindy went to her a few times. jmo

[MyrDawn]

My theory is the same. I believe that Cindy had Caylee and something terrible happened. I believe that the flurry of calls to her parents was to find out; where was Caylee, why wouldnt anyone answer? I believe that all three sat down and prepared this alibi using the 9th date, and they have screwed themselves by doing so; becuase It's a lie. I think she drowned, and they took her remains somewhere, and there is nothing left of her now. I think they have been all lying from the beginning even before those three 911 calls. I believe if they did a voice annaylsis of Cindy on the last 911 call it will prove decpetion. I believe her only concern was the money the car, and taking Caylee away from Casey. She threatened this on the tapes.
I dont think for a minute that she is alive; otherwise there wouldnt have been a need for an elaborate cover up. Cindy, you smelled her dead body in that Trunk. George, I believe you saw her in that trunk when you opened it. And I believe on the Tapes from Greta you were lying plain and simple. Its as plain as day to me. You wont even look up as you both try to spin this stupid story. A made up "script" that I believe you told your daughter, go on as if nothing has happened. And she did. We have the photos to prove that. And she will NOT throw her parents under the bus, but all four will gladly throw Caylee under the bus. It's a done deal.

Dots......................


It was Caseys voice from the interview from July 16 that a voice analysis expert said revealed deception. Not Cindys 911 call.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-caylee1308sep13,0,6848116.story

JMO

[ellegna]

Hi and Welcome...I don't think anyone knows, including Casey who the dad is..IMO, it could be one of many..


Oh I think Casey knows exactly who Caylee's dad is.
IMO He's alive, well, most likely married and wouldn't leave his family for her.
A poster suggested Casey probably got pregnant on purpose.
I wouldn't put it passed her.

[nana6]

The child was in his mother's car. Cindy came over and created the situation.

No, the child was standing in the middle of the street with his mother hurling expletives at Cindy, who was in her own yard. At the end of the video, the kid is rolling around in the street and his mother pays no attention to him, she's still busy hurling insults at Cindy.[/QUOTE]

Hi, as i said, I just got online. Whe did all of this take place?

[KKKKKKatie]

I agree with you 100 per cent if this would have happened when Cindy had her she would have called 911 fast. Casey is the killer in this case imo

I agree also....I don't think Cindy or George were involved in the very beginning. Now.....is is different story IMO

[Celiarun]

Congratulations. You just absolved Cindy of all responsibility. Where does it say that the Anthonys are free to assault anyone? imo

GMAB. Cindy did not assault that little boy.

:rolleyes:

[AJandTam]

It is their right to protest. Just like I think its silly that Casey is out on bond-typin on her myspace account-and her little girls body is out there somewhere . It is still her right to bond.

I am kind of middle of the road on this one. I can't defend Cindy, she got into the altercation when she really shouldn't have, but the one lady was out of hand as well. None of us like what is going on, but I don't think the protesters are going about it the right way.

[st777jo]

Oh I think Casey knows exactly who Caylee's dad is.
IMO He's alive, well, most likely married and wouldn't leave his family for her.
A poster suggested Casey probably got pregnant on purpose.
I wouldn't put it passed her.

I think you could be right. Any thing to get out of that house and have a man coddle her like mom and dad are doing. jmo

[kitty1182]

I still think LE should did up that bush that was moved in the Anthony's backyard...

[AMS]

Very true in general, but particularly when the supposed "parents" of a small kid like that coaches him to trash-talk grown adults - which this kid is seen doing throughout this video.

I agree DG. The venom coming of the child's mouth was sad. He should not be saying such things. When he made the comment about Casey out partying and then said somethining like "and I know what beer is", it made me sad for him.

Don't get me wrong. I have always taught my DD how to voice an opinion or protest something that she believes is not right. However, I have taught her that her message is always more powerful f she does it with respect.

[KKKKKKatie]

does no one at Fox look at the webcam to see that it has been stuck for an hour! :rolleyes:

[Shellberry]

Congratulations. You just absolved Cindy of all responsibility. Where does it say that the Anthonys are free to assault anyone? imo

when did she assault anyone?
I never said that.
so the anthonys cant speak THEIR voices when protesters go to their house to speak their voices?

come on.
give me a break.

when/if you put yourself in a harms way situation, you pay the price, that harm might come to you.

what reason did that lady have to stop at near midnight when cindy was in her yard?
do you think cindy was standing there yelling at the passers by?
why would she be out after 11pm in her yard or on any part of their property- if she wanted to be involved on purpose in a confrontation like that?


imo/jmo

[Joan Weiss]

A plane is not public property.

that wasn't my point Joan...my point was that cursing in front of kids and other objectionable activity can get you in trouble. Doesn't matter if it is public property or not IMO[/QUOTE]I already posted about a case like that in my state. The case went all the way to the Supreme Court. The SP Court ruled that the guy could curse. The parents who complained were advised to either take their chances or stay away from the area.

[rosejustrose]

Thye must have the right to do what they are doing since none of the calls the Anthonys have made has led to the protesters stopping.

I think the HOA will be attending a hearing Tuesday to try and get some control over the situation. Who knows, this whole situation is just a mess. IMO.

[MyrDawn]

does anyoneknow what time they normally have the vigil?

In the front yard/driveway.

OOPS, you said time, not place...sorry. I believe it's 8:30PM ET., but I'm not positive.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17281183/detail.html

[Celiarun]

No, the child was standing in the middle of the street with his mother hurling expletives at Cindy, who was in her own yard. At the end of the video, the kid is rolling around in the street and his mother pays no attention to him, she's still busy hurling insults at Cindy.

Sorry, but I don't quite see it that way. The woman kept her distance. Cindy went to her a few times. jmo[/QUOTE]

The woman was at the edge of the Anthony's property creating a disturbance. Her kid got hurt because of her actions. It's been reported to DCFS, I'm sure. Can't blame Cindy for the kid's mother being an idiot, imvho.

[Joan Weiss]

when did she assault anyone?
I never said that.
so the anthonys cant speak THEIR voices when protesters go to their house to speak their voices?

come on.
give me a break.

when/if you put yourself in a harms way situation, you pay the price, that harm might come to you.

what reason did that lady have to stop at near midnight when cindy was in her yard?
do you think cindy was standing there yelling at the passers by?
why would she be out after 11pm in her yard or on any part of their property- if she wanted to be involved on purpose in a confrontation like that?


imo/jmoYes, she was, all of the above. imo

[Shellberry]

that wasn't my point Joan...my point was that cursing in front of kids and other objectionable activity can get you in trouble. Doesn't matter if it is public property or not IMOI already posted about a case like that in my state. The case went all the way to the Supreme Court. The SP Court ruled that the guy could curse. The parents who complained were advised to either take their chances or stay away from the area.

exactly! take your chances or stay away from the public area.
that goes for protesters as well.

imo/jmo

[Joan Weiss]

does anyoneknow what time they normally have the vigil?I think it's at 8PM.

[Rayosunshine]

Wonder if Casey knew of the effects of Muriatic Acid on the human body?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[nana6]

just after dusk, I think.

thank you. I wonder if the cam will be going then?

[Joan Weiss]

exactly! take your chances or stay away from the public area.
that goes for protesters as well.

imo/jmoCindy was provoking. imo

Cindy should stay in the house, then.

[nana6]

I think it's at 8PM.

thank you Joan

[Celiarun]

No, the child was standing in the middle of the street with his mother hurling expletives at Cindy, who was in her own yard. At the end of the video, the kid is rolling around in the street and his mother pays no attention to him, she's still busy hurling insults at Cindy.

Hi, as i said, I just got online. Whe did all of this take place?[/QUOTE]

It's captured on a news video that was posted on the previous thread.

[KKKKKKatie]

that wasn't my point Joan...my point was that cursing in front of kids and other objectionable activity can get you in trouble. Doesn't matter if it is public property or not IMOI already posted about a case like that in my state. The case went all the way to the Supreme Court. The SP Court ruled that the guy could curse. The parents who complained were advised to either take their chances or stay away from the area.[/QUOTE]

Don't know why my quotes are getting so messed up. :shrug: Thank you for that info. This happened in California and it has been awhile ago and we sure know how things have changed since then! Everyone seems to want "their" rights to come first IMO

[day2day]

I am kind of middle of the road on this one. I can't defend Cindy, she got into the altercation when she really shouldn't have, but the one lady was out of hand as well. None of us like what is going on, but I don't think the protesters are going about it the right way.

I don't think its going to break Casey. I think the only time she may break is when she knows she is going to prison for a VERY long time and tries to use the info to make a deal.

I don't think children should be involved at all. The players are way too emotional. I feel sorry for the littleones in the neighborhood who can't even play outside because of this.

It would also be hard to be the Anthony's attorney because they can't keep their mouths shut.

jmo...:seeya:

[Shellberry]

Yes, she was, all of the above. imo

yes she was what?
when did she assault anyone?












imo/jmo/etc

[Joan Weiss]

I still think LE should did up that bush that was moved in the Anthony's backyard...Did the cadaver dogs hit there?

[day2day]

George and Cindy filed for divorce in 2005. Does anyone know which one of them moved out? :shrug:

[KKKKKKatie]

George and Cindy fild for divorce in 2005. Does anyone know which one of them moved out? :shrug:


IIRC George did

[Shellberry]

Cindy was provoking. imo

Cindy should stay in the house, then.

you are too much-if she were going to provoke someone why would she go outside at 11 PM -when all the protesters are normally out and gone before then?
Are you saying just by her going outside she provoked someone?
so, she cant leave her own house?
at 11 PM?!

why not go out and put stuff back up when all the people are out?


ok.

imo/jmo

[kitty1182]

Did the cadaver dogs hit there?

Don't know, but it should be dug up and checked out..There could be a deeper hole there..IMO

[rosejustrose]

I am kind of middle of the road on this one. I can't defend Cindy, she got into the altercation when she really shouldn't have, but the one lady was out of hand as well. None of us like what is going on, but I don't think the protesters are going about it the right way.

Someone posted this morning that Cindy had the opportunity to ignore the drive by insulter (she was not with the protesters) and take the high road. She chose not to do that. IMO, Cindy was just as happy to engage in that confrontation as the woman who was calling names. JMHO.

[Joan Weiss]

I already posted about a case like that in my state. The case went all the way to the Supreme Court. The SP Court ruled that the guy could curse. The parents who complained were advised to either take their chances or stay away from the area.

Don't know why my quotes are getting so messed up. :shrug: Thank you for that info. This happened in California and it has been awhile ago and we sure know how things have changed since then! Everyone seems to want "their" rights to come first IMO[/QUOTE]I know, I've already posted that in my personal opinion, the Anthonys should be left in peace, so they can come to terms with the facts. Right now, they are focused on the protesters and circling the wagons. They will never move on as long as they have this mission. imo

[Celiarun]

I think the HOA will be attending a hearing Tuesday to try and get some control over the situation. Who knows, this whole situation is just a mess. IMO.

I can't say that I blame them. Idiots who drag their kids into it should be prosecuted for child endangerment, imvho.

[Shellberry]

I'm a little confused. Please don't report this post as well, since I am just asking a question. Where did Cindy assault someone? Can someone give me a link? What did I miss?

lol
exactly, she didnt assault anyone.
she has a right to speak her voice just as much as that lady did


imo/jmo

[Joan Weiss]

you are too much-if she were going to provoke someone why would she go outside at 11 PM -when all the protesters are normally out and gone before then?
Are you saying just by her going outside she provoked someone?
so, she cant leave her own house?
at 11 PM?!

why not go out and put stuff back up when all the people are out?


ok.

imo/jmoAre you serious, Shell? No, if your opinion is that people can't be out after dark on a public sidewalk with their children, why should Cindy have HER rights?

[kitty1182]

Someone posted this morning that Cindy had the opportunity to ignore the drive by insulter (she was not with the protesters) and take the high road. She chose not to do that. IMO, Cindy was just as happy to engage in that confrontation as the woman who was calling names. JMHO.

Her fixing signs could have waited till daylight...All she had to do when she went to the garage the first time, was to close garage door, go in house and call LE and tell them the neighbors might be disturbed over the racket..That's all she had to do, just go in the house..

[OneUp]

Very true in general, but particularly when the supposed "parents" of a small kid like that coaches him to trash-talk grown adults - which this kid is seen doing throughout this video.To be perfectly honest, in that particular instance, I doubt that this protest will make a great difference in that poor boys life. I think the stage was set for their behavior long before....No doubt in my mind that that spectacle was a "normal" occurence for them.
It is funny though how easily some judge this rotten family but turn on a dime and defend the Anthony's...qualifying their nastiness as "stress" and "grief". I've always maintained that you can "know" plenty about a persons parenting ability from one isolated instance...some seem to think that only ongoing investigation has any worth ( at least when talking of the Anthony's).
Who knows, maybe this family just came from the deathbed of one of their own children and were upset and outraged? It makes no diff. to me, bad parenting is bad parenting...stress and circumstance don't create it they only enhance that which already exists. I can't excuse cursing and violence in front of children under any circumstances. It's something I ever allow myself to do and something I don't allow my kids to be exposed to or engage in...we practice that concept of a "modelling" parent who sets the right example....
JMO.

[AJandTam]

I don't think its going to break Casey. I think the only time she may break is when she knows she is going to prison for a VERY long time and tries to use the info to make a deal.

I don't think children should be involved at all. The players are way too emotional. I feel sorry for the littleones in the neighborhood who can't even play outside because of this.

It would also be hard to be the Anthony's attorney because they can't keep their mouths shut.

jmo...:seeya:

Exactly Day, these people going out to the house and causing a ruckus for the cops, the neighbors and others who have just cause to be in the neighborhood is just not right especially when violence is breaking out. Fighting the Anthony's will not bring Caylee back, other children being hurt or killed won't change anything. And adults w/black eyes and bruises won't change it either. . I understand many are angry about the situation but it won't make Casey talk and it won't make LE arrest her faster. I am sure Le wants a case as bad as everyone else does. If these people can't hold thier tongues til Le solves this thing, then they can start a website, search for the baby, make fliers, put thier money together and hire a PI, whatever they think might help but holding signs and causing violence won't work. Plain and Simple.

[Joan Weiss]

I know that he was the respondent so he filed to divorce, her.

Jenny, the one who files is the Plaintiff. The defendant is the one being sued. imo

[st777jo]

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No, the child was standing in the middle of the street with his mother hurling expletives at Cindy, who was in her own yard. At the end of the video, the kid is rolling around in the street and his mother pays no attention to him, she's still busy hurling insults at Cindy.

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Sorry, but I don't quite see it that way. The woman kept her distance. Cindy went to her a few times. jmo[/quote]

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The woman was at the edge of the Anthony's property creating a disturbance. Her kid got hurt because of her actions. It's been reported to DCFS, I'm sure. Can't blame Cindy for the kid's mother being an idiot, imvho.

[rosejustrose]

I don't think its going to break Casey. I think the only time she may break is when she knows she is going to prison for a VERY long time and tries to use the info to make a deal.

I don't think children should be involved at all. The players are way too emotional. I feel sorry for the littleones in the neighborhood who can't even play outside because of this.

It would also be hard to be the Anthony's attorney because they can't keep their mouths shut.

jmo...:seeya:

I hadn't thought of that but you may be right. She may use what she knows to get a lesser sentence. Remember Ted Bundy tried to get out of the death sentence by revealing where he disposed of some of his victims? It didn't work and that was FL, too.

[bluwaters]

The child was in his mother's car. Cindy came over and created the situation.
Joan, have you seen the extended version of the video?
It makes the situation much clearer and does not splice together cuts out of sequence. It really shocked me when I saw it.
I don't think that it makes Cindy's reaction right, though.

Cindy Anthony Clashes With Protesters
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

click "Cindy Anthony Clash: Extended Video" in the right hand "Video" column.


A niggling little thing that bothers me is that I don't understand why C&G keep putting that tape and No Trespassing all around the public easement. They know that it is not their property and the protesters and LE know it too.

[Snewpy]

Good evening everyone... just finally got on... catching up now.. Anything of import I need to know? TIA !!


Prayers for Caylee

[AJandTam]

Someone posted this morning that Cindy had the opportunity to ignore the drive by insulter (she was not with the protesters) and take the high road. She chose not to do that. IMO, Cindy was just as happy to engage in that confrontation as the woman who was calling names. JMHO.


I don't defend Cindy either. It looked to me like George was the one who finally solved the whole thing. He got on the phone w/the police and both Cindy and that other gal backed off. The sad thing is, while the LE were coming to that call, a way more important call could have been held up. So, it's a no win situation that is causing more harm than good.

[rosejustrose]

Oh thank you rsr! I'll check there I think I did see that thread last night but it was very late. I sometimes read there. I have for years, I miss the old format still. I liked the old library.
So her own brother was the source for that info; fascinating.

I wonder what he is thinking today. We sure haven't seen him showing support by physically being there for his Sis now have we. What he knows could be a gold mine of info into the pathology of this family. The dysfunction and how it got this way. Was it Cindy's father or her mother who taught them all this? Where did this start?

You know I still dont believe that video tape was of this year, Caylee looks much older, MUch Much older in a few photos of her this year. I am certain that she didnt visit on Fathers day and if she did; then the whole family is lying it's as simple as that. Why havent any nurses that work at that home come fwd to say; I saw Caylee that day, I know she was really there....but No we've heard nothing. Absolutely nothing from anyone who worked there, if they truly saw Caylee This Year Fathers Day. No one can even tell us what Caylee last had on when she was alive. And Cindy and GA should be able to tell us all; what pair of clothing of Caylee's is missing. Her jammies, or her Pants, or her swimsuit. Which. I want to know; what was this child last wearing? We havnt a clue. She was probably in her bathing suit, I wonder if they can produce that orange one she had on in that one photo of her in her crocs and bathing suit.....

Dots




Cindy's brother, posting as Rick at the topix.forum, doesn't have many nice things to say about the Anthonys. It's an interesting read. IMO.

[Shellberry]

Are you serious, Shell? No, if your opinion is that people can't be out after dark on a public sidewalk with their children, why should Cindy have HER rights?
wooohhhh-wait a sec here--
why are you telling ME about MY opinion?
when did I ever say that people cant be out after dark?


Im still waiting to see where cindy assaulted someone as you said.
:shrug:

imo/jmo

[day2day]

IIRC George did

Thanks...!! I found it..
Caylee was born on August 9 2005
They file for Divorce on December 29,2005 (george moves out)
and close the case November 28,2007

There has been alot of tension goin on in that house. :(...They sure didn't need all of this.

[Celiarun]

Someone posted this morning that Cindy had the opportunity to ignore the drive by insulter (she was not with the protesters) and take the high road. She chose not to do that. IMO, Cindy was just as happy to engage in that confrontation as the woman who was calling names. JMHO.

Cindy did ignore them for several minutes. They kept screaming their accusations over and over laced with profanity. Their goal was obviously to provoke Cindy and they succeeded. Meanwhile, a little boy got hurt because his ma was too busy insulting Cindy and not paying attention to his welfare. This is turning into a real Festival of Fools and little ones are paying the price of their parents' neglect, including Caylee and that little boy.

[KKKKKKatie]

I don't defend Cindy either. It looked to me like George was the one who finally solved the whole thing. He got on the phone w/the police and both Cindy and that other gal backed off. The sad thing is, while the LE were coming to that call, a way more important call could have been held up. So, it's a no win situation that is causing more harm than good.

Hard to believe that it was George with the cool head last night LOL

[AJandTam]

Joan, have you seen the extended version of the video?
It makes the situation much clearer and does not splice together cuts out of sequence. It really shocked me when I saw it.
I don't think that it makes Cindy's reaction right, though.

Cindy Anthony Clashes With Protesters
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

click "Cindy Anthony Clash: Extended Video" in the right hand "Video" column.


A niggling little thing that bothers me is that I don't understand why C&G keep putting that tape and No Trespassing all around the public easement. They know that it is not their property and the protesters and LE know it too.


I agree, I don't see a good reason to bother w/that yellow tape and signs. Seems like wasted energy to me. Those who will come on the property don't care about her signs anyhow.

[st777jo]

Maybe that was her "Plan A" for getting out of her parents house. Maybe this married guy would leave his wife, and marry her, and she would have a house even nicer than her moms....
BUT......she was a girl ready to PAR-TAY. So thats what she did.

wonder if murdering her child was plan D, E, F, G??


Casey will be able to par-tay with all the "girls" she wants behind bars. jmo

[st777jo]

I agree, I don't see a good reason to bother w/that yellow tape and signs. Seems like wasted energy to me. Those who will come on the property don't care about her signs anyhow.


I think Cindy gives herself a reason to come outside to hammer her post in knowing full well she has an audience out there. jmo

[marshmallow]

It's their front yard and if they want to have it in their front yard that should be respected. Should they just be bullied into staying inside or in their backyard? That's disturbing!

I think if they have it, it should be moved. Everyone says that the protesters gathering is unfair to the neighbors and creates a circus atmosphere, isn't hold the vigil there the same thing? it attracts crowds and disrupts the neighborhood. Having it at the house is asking for more crowds to show up. I think the vigil is a wonderful idea, I just wonder aabout it's locale.

[WingNIt]

Forgive me if this has already been asked but are they using Web Cam 1? I'm not getting a picture.

[nc1948]

Good night all. Well check back tomorrow to see if the discussion about protestors and Cindy is over yet. This has gone on all day adnausium. Anyone trying to talk about Caylee and evidence has been overulled and conversation continues back to protestors and Cindy. Sorry I have had enough. This in my humble opinion has nothing to do with Caylee and how to find her or if Casey is responsible. See you tomorrow.

[Celiarun]

Joan, have you seen the extended version of the video?
It makes the situation much clearer and does not splice together cuts out of sequence. It really shocked me when I saw it.
I don't think that it makes Cindy's reaction right, though.

Cindy Anthony Clashes With Protesters
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

click "Cindy Anthony Clash: Extended Video" in the right hand "Video" column.


A niggling little thing that bothers me is that I don't understand why C&G keep putting that tape and No Trespassing all around the public easement. They know that it is not their property and the protesters and LE know it too.

It is their property. By law, they own it and must maintain it. A public easement means that the public can cross over it. The public can't loiter on it, though.

[AJandTam]

Cindy did ignore them for several minutes. They kept screaming their accusations over and over laced with profanity. Their goal was obviously to provoke Cindy and they succeeded. Meanwhile, a little boy got hurt because his ma was too busy insulting Cindy and not paying attention to his welfare. This is turning into a real Festival of Fools and little ones are paying the price of their parents' neglect, including Caylee and that little boy.

Yep, a Foul mouthed, neglecting, violent women goes to the Anthony's to tell them how foul mouth, violent and neglecting they are. It was indeed a Festival of Fools.

[day2day]

Exactly Day, these people going out to the house and causing a ruckus for the cops, the neighbors and others who have just cause to be in the neighborhood is just not right especially when violence is breaking out. Fighting the Anthony's will not bring Caylee back, other children being hurt or killed won't change anything. And adults w/black eyes and bruises won't change it either. . I understand many are angry about the situation but it won't make Casey talk and it won't make LE arrest her faster. I am sure Le wants a case as bad as everyone else does. If these people can't hold thier tongues til Le solves this thing, then they can start a website, search for the baby, make fliers, put thier money together and hire a PI, whatever they think might help but holding signs and causing violence won't work. Plain and Simple.

Great post as usual Tam. You are always so level-headed -i loves ya!
I think there are two easy solutions. One would be to get rid of the web cam. The other would be for Casey to go back to her castle.
I don't see either one of those things happening. What hurts the most is the protestors are getting more air-time than Caylee. :(

jmo

[WingNIt]

yes:seeya:

The Breeze....TYVM :seeya:

[msjoni]

Oh I think Casey knows exactly who Caylee's dad is.
IMO He's alive, well, most likely married and wouldn't leave his family for her.
A poster suggested Casey probably got pregnant on purpose.
I wouldn't put it passed her.

I also think that maybe the Father is married ….but he still would be responsible for child support...

[AlohaRainbow]

Oh I think Casey knows exactly who Caylee's dad is.
IMO He's alive, well, most likely married and wouldn't leave his family for her.
A poster suggested Casey probably got pregnant on purpose.
I wouldn't put it passed her.
i wouldn't put it past her, either (and i think it happens quite a bit with young girls who want to get out from their parents' control and house)
iirc, jesse grund's dad said that sometimes casey would talk about how things weren't going well at home and she really wanted to get out on her own (paraphrased).

[day2day]

Forgive me if this has already been asked but are they using Web Cam 1? I'm not getting a picture.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

It has been stuck for a very long time..

[bluwaters]

Cindy did ignore them for several minutes. They kept screaming their accusations over and over laced with profanity. Their goal was obviously to provoke Cindy and they succeeded. Meanwhile, a little boy got hurt because his ma was too busy insulting Cindy and not paying attention to his welfare. This is turning into a real Festival of Fools and little ones are paying the price of their parents' neglect, including Caylee and that little boy.

I can't get over the younger woman screaming "baby killer" and expletives at Cindy while holding her own crying, distressed baby.
Everything about that scene is disturbing.

I like that term "Festival of Fools"
some other goods ones from this case:
gnomes of fury
the lawn rangers

[Celiarun]

Now Cindy is suppose to be able to tell who is a drive by insulter and a fruitloop protester. A nut is a nut, they only get cracked differently.

True. And the mini-nuts don't fall far from the tree. Too bad we don't require a certification prior to getting pregnant.

[kitty1182]

Hi Everybody! I usually just lurk and read but I feel like ya'll won't tear me up, so I want to post some on this case. I have posted a little but I have seen everyone being nice to newer posters so I will give it a try.

I think, like most of you do, that Casey killed her little ANGEL and needs to be in jail. I think her parents "know in their hearts" that she is dead and just have to hold on to the smallest little thread of hope that that is not true. I have 5 grandkids. I raised the oldest girl. She is in my home as we speak. Her daddy got custody of her when she was less than 2 but really we had her since she was less than 1. Her mommy did not want to be mommy-she -like Casey- wanted to party with her friends and could not be bothered with a baby. She was left with whomever her "mommy" could get to watch her. My son got a midnite call to come get her from a drug dealers house-a neighbor saw her outside by herself at that time of nite and called him. He went and got her and "mommy" never called for 3 whole days to see if he had her. So...mommy never got her back. She has seen her maybe 10 times since. and she lives just across town. It is so scary to think what could have happened to this angelic child!! She has been the light of MY life. She is now 9 yrs old and just as precious as ever! (Yes, I know I am a bit biased) Her dad stepped up to the plate and IS her daddy in every way. He remarried 4 yrs ago and has another little one (who I love just as much!) He and his family live with me since I got divorced last year.

Casey is so irresponsible that I think she has had a life with everyone covering for her. The parents wanted her to grow up and take responsibility for her daughter. Sadly, Casey seems to be the type who will never accept responsibility for her actions unless she is made to. (By being arrested and going to prison). Her parents have obviously let her slide too many times and made excuses for her. I am sure it is a regular occurence in that home. I have been there in my life too. I make excuses sometimes to avoid confrontation. It is so much easier to just do things yourself than to argue over everything.:(

OK - sorry for the long post! Will try to be more brief next post. Thanks for letting me join in. Please be nice.:rose:

Hello and Welcome!! :seeya:

[Unperson1984]

Jenny, the one who files is the Plaintiff. The defendant is the one being sued. imo

The terms used in civil actions are usually Petitioner and Respondent.

[AJandTam]

I think Cindy gives herself a reason to come outside to hammer her post in knowing full well she has an audience out there. jmo

I don't know what I would do in Cindy's case. I understand she can't stay behind closed doors the rest of her life, so I really don't know what she should do. W/this much craziness going on though. It might be better to try and stay out of heated situations.

[day2day]

I think he moved out...and

I recall reading that the house and cars were all in Cindys name.

Brother Rick alluded to a gambling issue for George so one could assume debt problems so everything went into Cindys name.

imo

Its in the links page.

TYVM ...you are a gem!:seeya:

[st777jo]

Hi Everybody! I usually just lurk and read but I feel like ya'll won't tear me up, so I want to post some on this case. I have posted a little but I have seen everyone being nice to newer posters so I will give it a try.

I think, like most of you do, that Casey killed her little ANGEL and needs to be in jail. I think her parents "know in their hearts" that she is dead and just have to hold on to the smallest little thread of hope that that is not true. I have 5 grandkids. I raised the oldest girl. She is in my home as we speak. Her daddy got custody of her when she was less than 2 but really we had her since she was less than 1. Her mommy did not want to be mommy-she -like Casey- wanted to party with her friends and could not be bothered with a baby. She was left with whomever her "mommy" could get to watch her. My son got a midnite call to come get her from a drug dealers house-a neighbor saw her outside by herself at that time of nite and called him. He went and got her and "mommy" never called for 3 whole days to see if he had her. So...mommy never got her back. She has seen her maybe 10 times since. and she lives just across town. It is so scary to think what could have happened to this angelic child!! She has been the light of MY life. She is now 9 yrs old and just as precious as ever! (Yes, I know I am a bit biased) Her dad stepped up to the plate and IS her daddy in every way. He remarried 4 yrs ago and has another little one (who I love just as much!) He and his family live with me since I got divorced last year.

Casey is so irresponsible that I think she has had a life with everyone covering for her. The parents wanted her to grow up and take responsibility for her daughter. Sadly, Casey seems to be the type who will never accept responsibility for her actions unless she is made to. (By being arrested and going to prison). Her parents have obviously let her slide too many times and made excuses for her. I am sure it is a regular occurence in that home. I have been there in my life too. I make excuses sometimes to avoid confrontation. It is so much easier to just do things yourself than to argue over everything.:(

OK - sorry for the long post! Will try to be more brief next post. Thanks for letting me join in. Please be nice.:rose:

Welcome jamms, very nice post.

[Joan Weiss]

Joan, have you seen the extended version of the video?
It makes the situation much clearer and does not splice together cuts out of sequence. It really shocked me when I saw it.
I don't think that it makes Cindy's reaction right, though.

Cindy Anthony Clashes With Protesters
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

click "Cindy Anthony Clash: Extended Video" in the right hand "Video" column.


A niggling little thing that bothers me is that I don't understand why C&G keep putting that tape and No Trespassing all around the public easement. They know that it is not their property and the protesters and LE know it too.Thanks. That was disgusting. Cindy can't keep her mouth shut. Had she not said anything, this would not have escalated, imo. Cindy definitely was spoiling for a fight, that's clear from the way she kept on and intruded on the car. They were leaving. Cindy let a few F-bombs go, too.

Absolutely disgusting, on both sides. imo

[WingNIt]

Hi Everybody! I usually just lurk and read but I feel like ya'll won't tear me up, so I want to post some on this case. I have posted a little but I have seen everyone being nice to newer posters so I will give it a try.

I think, like most of you do, that Casey killed her little ANGEL and needs to be in jail. I think her parents "know in their hearts" that she is dead and just have to hold on to the smallest little thread of hope that that is not true. I have 5 grandkids. I raised the oldest girl. She is in my home as we speak. Her daddy got custody of her when she was less than 2 but really we had her since she was less than 1. Her mommy did not want to be mommy-she -like Casey- wanted to party with her friends and could not be bothered with a baby. She was left with whomever her "mommy" could get to watch her. My son got a midnite call to come get her from a drug dealers house-a neighbor saw her outside by herself at that time of nite and called him. He went and got her and "mommy" never called for 3 whole days to see if he had her. So...mommy never got her back. She has seen her maybe 10 times since. and she lives just across town. It is so scary to think what could have happened to this angelic child!! She has been the light of MY life. She is now 9 yrs old and just as precious as ever! (Yes, I know I am a bit biased) Her dad stepped up to the plate and IS her daddy in every way. He remarried 4 yrs ago and has another little one (who I love just as much!) He and his family live with me since I got divorced last year.

Casey is so irresponsible that I think she has had a life with everyone covering for her. The parents wanted her to grow up and take responsibility for her daughter. Sadly, Casey seems to be the type who will never accept responsibility for her actions unless she is made to. (By being arrested and going to prison). Her parents have obviously let her slide too many times and made excuses for her. I am sure it is a regular occurence in that home. I have been there in my life too. I make excuses sometimes to avoid confrontation. It is so much easier to just do things yourself than to argue over everything.:(

OK - sorry for the long post! Will try to be more brief next post. Thanks for letting me join in. Please be nice.:rose:

Welcome...join in anytime!:seeya:

[kitty1182]

Thanks. That was disgusting. Cindy can't keep her mouth shut. Had she not said anything, this would not have escalated, imo. Cindy definitely was spoiling for a fight, that's clear from the way she kept on and intruded on the car. They were leaving. Cindy let a few F-bombs go, too.

Absolutely disgusting, on both sides. imo

I agree.Why didn't she just go back into the house..?

[Joan Weiss]

The terms used in civil actions are usually Petitioner and Respondent.I just went through one. I certainly know what all my paperwork said. :rolleyes:

[AJandTam]

Great post as usual Tam. You are always so level-headed -i loves ya!
I think there are two easy solutions. One would be to get rid of the web cam. The other would be for Casey to go back to her castle.
I don't see either one of those things happening. What hurts the most is the protestors are getting more air-time than Caylee. :(

jmo


Thank you Day. I agree as well. If they removed the webcams or Casey from the property, things might settle down. The webcam seems to be a bit of a Knucklehead magnet.

[charm7]

Forgive me if this has already been asked but are they using Web Cam 1? I'm not getting a picture.


This may be froze, was ok a few minutes ago :shrug:

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[Snewpy]

True. And the mini-nuts don't fall far from the tree. Too bad we don't require a certification prior to getting pregnant.

If we did.. Caylee would probably be alive...

[summer4meplz]

I'm looking for a divorce, a suicide, a shooting, a stroke or heart attack, nervous breakdown..something to happen soon.

you mean among us?

[rosejustrose]

Now Cindy is suppose to be able to tell who is a drive by insulter and a fruitloop protester. A nut is a nut, they only get cracked differently.


I was qualifying the woman involved not characterizing what Cindy should know or not. IMO, she knows nuts when she sees them, too bad she can't figure out how to crack her nut of a daughter. JMHO.

[st777jo]

I don't know what I would do in Cindy's case. I understand she can't stay behind closed doors the rest of her life, so I really don't know what she should do. W/this much craziness going on though. It might be better to try and stay out of heated situations.

If they want to stand by their daughter, all well and good. But she knows by now coming out when there are protesters out, is not a good thing. If I were Cindy, I'd get in my car, while its in the garage, and just take off like she said she did before. She went and sat in the park. She should do it again to try to think things thru. Maybe she would understand where some of us are coming from. She bailed her daughter out. She needs to try to figure out from Casey how to get her granddaughter home. jmo

[day2day]

Hi Everybody! I usually just lurk and read but I feel like ya'll won't tear me up, so I want to post some on this case. I have posted a little but I have seen everyone being nice to newer posters so I will give it a try.

I think, like most of you do, that Casey killed her little ANGEL and needs to be in jail. I think her parents "know in their hearts" that she is dead and just have to hold on to the smallest little thread of hope that that is not true. I have 5 grandkids. I raised the oldest girl. She is in my home as we speak. Her daddy got custody of her when she was less than 2 but really we had her since she was less than 1. Her mommy did not want to be mommy-she -like Casey- wanted to party with her friends and could not be bothered with a baby. She was left with whomever her "mommy" could get to watch her. My son got a midnite call to come get her from a drug dealers house-a neighbor saw her outside by herself at that time of nite and called him. He went and got her and "mommy" never called for 3 whole days to see if he had her. So...mommy never got her back. She has seen her maybe 10 times since. and she lives just across town. It is so scary to think what could have happened to this angelic child!! She has been the light of MY life. She is now 9 yrs old and just as precious as ever! (Yes, I know I am a bit biased) Her dad stepped up to the plate and IS her daddy in every way. He remarried 4 yrs ago and has another little one (who I love just as much!) He and his family live with me since I got divorced last year.

Casey is so irresponsible that I think she has had a life with everyone covering for her. The parents wanted her to grow up and take responsibility for her daughter. Sadly, Casey seems to be the type who will never accept responsibility for her actions unless she is made to. (By being arrested and going to prison). Her parents have obviously let her slide too many times and made excuses for her. I am sure it is a regular occurence in that home. I have been there in my life too. I make excuses sometimes to avoid confrontation. It is so much easier to just do things yourself than to argue over everything.:(

OK - sorry for the long post! Will try to be more brief next post. Thanks for letting me join in. Please be nice.:rose:

Welcome Jamms...great first post!:seeya:

[Celiarun]

I can't get over the younger woman screaming "baby killer" and expletives at Cindy while holding her own crying, distressed baby.
Everything about that scene is disturbing.

I like that term "Festival of Fools"
some other goods ones from this case:
gnomes of fury
the lawn rangers

Disturbed people create disturbances and their kids grow up and become statistics, imvho. I do believe the license plate was captured because whoever was filming it was going to report it to authorities. Kids don't have a prayer of being normal growing up around mothers who don't notice they're injured and rolling around the middle of the street.

[Joan Weiss]

I agree.Why didn't she just go back into the house..?She didn't have to do that. They weren't near her. All she had to do was carry on and keep her mouth shut. She was just as bad as they were, imo.

[Joan Weiss]

Disturbed people create disturbances and their kids grow up and become statistics, imvho. I do believe the license plate was captured because whoever was filming it was going to report it to authorities. Kids don't have a prayer of being normal growing up around mothers who don't notice they're injured and rolling around the middle of the street.You wish. imo

[rosejustrose]

I think Cindy gives herself a reason to come outside to hammer her post in knowing full well she has an audience out there. jmo

Certainly looked like she had her posse with her, IMO.

[AlohaRainbow]

I already posted about a case like that in my state. The case went all the way to the Supreme Court. The SP Court ruled that the guy could curse. The parents who complained were advised to either take their chances or stay away from the area.
just checking back into the cobwebs of my mind,,, wasn't there a case a year or maybe 2 ago where a a guy in a canoe fell into the water in some lake somewhere and cursed... and a family filed a complaint and he was arrested for cursing in front of minors? (i think he was found guilty, too, iirc)

i think local communities can pass their own ordinances about things like that.

eta - found a link to that case.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/bob/greene090199.asp
guess there weren't as many cobwebs in my mind as i feared :seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

Yep, a Foul mouthed, neglecting, violent women goes to the Anthony's to tell them how foul mouth, violent and neglecting they are. It was indeed a Festival of Fools.That I can agree with. My stomach was rolling. barf

[summer4meplz]

Yep, a Foul mouthed, neglecting, violent women goes to the Anthony's to tell them how foul mouth, violent and neglecting they are. It was indeed a Festival of Fools.

ita....I think that title is so fitting....

[KKKKKKatie]

Cam back up...

[day2day]

Originally Posted by jennyanydots
Im going to go make salsa and use my peppers and tomatoes up. Before I go chop chop; I just wanted to say that I think it's very sad; that there was no community outpouring this weekend to find Caylee, to search for her. That all searches were "suspended" only means one thing to me; either they know she will never be found, or they found what was left of her and forensics are being done.
It's hard for me too; all day to go through normal life and know; Casey is home watching TV or on her computer, eating, drinking laughing and blogging away. I guess I want charges against all three and I probably will never sleep 10 hours again. I'm lucky if I am sleeping 5 hours straight through and Im not healthly I need 10 hours. This case is making some of us have nightmares lose sleep and just worry; and feel sick inside at the antics of the whole family.
Shock and awe, as everyone throws and desecrates Caylee and her memory.

Why hasnt a a Guardian Ad Litem been hired for Caylee? This child, if alive should never be allowed back into this home. She wasnt safe then, and everyone knew it in the family. They had to smell the alcohol on Casey every morning as she slept off her hangovers from partying. Casey I dont believe your story that you "moved out with Caylee" for a minute. Where were your suitcases? Where were all her clothes and favorite things? They looked to me like they were at HOME at your parents house as usual. Those were lived in rooms, not rooms where someone "moved out".

Did Cindy use Caylee as a Pawn even then to not divorce? Has Caylee always been Used by this family? Casey, if you really wanted a better life for Caylee, why didnt you sign her over for adoption? You are an adult, when will you start acting like one? LE is right you look like a monster to many of us. Your family isnt faring much better. I want to know how you all can live with yourselves? Are you that afraid of going to Jail? Are you that willing to never sacrifice for this child you brough into the world?


Really a great post Jenny!..I don't think Caylee's life was as happy as they want us to believe it was. I think she heard lots of screaming and fighting. And that makes me sad :(

jmo

[Joan Weiss]

just checking back into the cobwebs of my mind,,, wasn't there a case a year or maybe 2 ago where a a guy in a canoe fell into the water in some lake somewhere and cursed... and a family filed a complaint and he was arrested for cursing in front of minors? (i think he was found guilty, too, iirc)

i think local communities can pass their own ordinances about things like that.

eta - found a link to that case.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/bob/greene090199.asp
guess there weren't as many cobwebs in my mind as i feared :seeya:Yep, that's the one. That's an outdated article, it went to the Supreme Court. I appreciate your providing it, though, now I have a name to google. :seeya:

Here it is. The conviction was thrown out.

http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=15992

There are also other instances of this situation at the bottom of this link.

[summer4meplz]

Hi Everybody! I usually just lurk and read but I feel like ya'll won't tear me up, so I want to post some on this case. I have posted a little but I have seen everyone being nice to newer posters so I will give it a try.

I think, like most of you do, that Casey killed her little ANGEL and needs to be in jail. I think her parents "know in their hearts" that she is dead and just have to hold on to the smallest little thread of hope that that is not true. I have 5 grandkids. I raised the oldest girl. She is in my home as we speak. Her daddy got custody of her when she was less than 2 but really we had her since she was less than 1. Her mommy did not want to be mommy-she -like Casey- wanted to party with her friends and could not be bothered with a baby. She was left with whomever her "mommy" could get to watch her. My son got a midnite call to come get her from a drug dealers house-a neighbor saw her outside by herself at that time of nite and called him. He went and got her and "mommy" never called for 3 whole days to see if he had her. So...mommy never got her back. She has seen her maybe 10 times since. and she lives just across town. It is so scary to think what could have happened to this angelic child!! She has been the light of MY life. She is now 9 yrs old and just as precious as ever! (Yes, I know I am a bit biased) Her dad stepped up to the plate and IS her daddy in every way. He remarried 4 yrs ago and has another little one (who I love just as much!) He and his family live with me since I got divorced last year.

Casey is so irresponsible that I think she has had a life with everyone covering for her. The parents wanted her to grow up and take responsibility for her daughter. Sadly, Casey seems to be the type who will never accept responsibility for her actions unless she is made to. (By being arrested and going to prison). Her parents have obviously let her slide too many times and made excuses for her. I am sure it is a regular occurence in that home. I have been there in my life too. I make excuses sometimes to avoid confrontation. It is so much easier to just do things yourself than to argue over everything.:(

OK - sorry for the long post! Will try to be more brief next post. Thanks for letting me join in. Please be nice.:rose:

welcome aboard!!

[day2day]

lol cam 2 has been stuck since the body guards were sitting in there fancy chairs here take a look:tongue:


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Oh lord...that would be the high priced security guards..seems like they shoulda worked a double shift last night!

[OneUp]

Wonder if Casey knew of the effects of Muriatic Acid on the human body?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomI've thought on that since you mentioned it...I don't often allow for the more "way out"explanations ( simple is usually more likely IMO), but in this case weird seems to b the norm.

*****Gross and sensitive subject, please scroll as needed*********

I wonder if she may have placed remains in pool chemicals just to hide the smell, and found that they were having an effect of breaking down the remains. At that time she may have figured it out and added more. Thiswould require a place to keep Caylee for a longer period of time though. I have heard of criminals who put their victims in enclosed areas and containers and added chemicals and odor absorbers to try to hide the scent of decomp., so this wouldn't be the first. Still not the most likely, but a possibility. I guess we'll see what evidence they have that may lead us to make some more accurate guesses on the "means" when it goes to trial.
Till then, any even slightly reasonable explanation of what happened to Caylee has potential.
JMO.

[AJandTam]

If they want to stand by their daughter, all well and good. But she knows by now coming out when there are protesters out, is not a good thing. If I were Cindy, I'd get in my car, while its in the garage, and just take off like she said she did before. She went and sat in the park. She should do it again to try to think things thru. Maybe she would understand where some of us are coming from. She bailed her daughter out. She needs to try to figure out from Casey how to get her granddaughter home. jmo


Yes, I do agree w/you there st, I think in Cindy's mind, she doesn't really want the truth to come out, however, this will not go away. She's just prolonging the agony.

[Shellberry]

Nurses aren't paying attention to who comes IN the door, they are just making sure their patients don't go OUT the door. LOL. Seriously, if its a large assisted living/ NH it could be NO staff member that saw or remembered her. We have alot to do, visitor monitoring isn't one of them.
However, a newer nice NH or assisted living might have a video surveillence system. However that might be on a 3 day loop or some such business. jmo

I have been saying this too
nurses in a skilled nursing facility/alf really dont have time.
overworked and underpaid.
I worked in snf's for 6 years 2 of them had assisted living facilities attached.
you dont have time to sit and think about who is seeing who-if you are a nurse, you know that besides handing out meds, paperwork, takes up all of your time. you barely have time to take your scheduled lunch break.
everyones days end up running together, especially if you have a mandatory shift after your reg. shift.
it is hard,
it is a hard job, I wouldnt be surprised if someone mixed up the day they actually say caylee/cindy
& Im talking about in PA, in FL the shortage of nurses is even worse
mixing up dates about certain things happens a lot, personal visits arent something that need to be documented on unless the person who is visiting the resident has a complaint about something their direct care or quality of life at the home.


imo/jmo

[summer4meplz]

I think Cindys motive is that she is 'creating' evidence for the injunction.

Knowing that she can inflame the passion in protesters just by her presence to create a situation, a police report, for an end to another means.


I hadn't thought of that, but I think you are probably absolutely correct....

[tiny paw-prints]

Originally Posted by Celiarun
Cindy did ignore them for several minutes. They kept screaming their accusations over and over laced with profanity. Their goal was obviously to provoke Cindy and they succeeded. Meanwhile, a little boy got hurt because his ma was too busy insulting Cindy and not paying attention to his welfare. This is turning into a real Festival of Fools and little ones are paying the price of their parents' neglect, including Caylee and that little boy.

Yes!!! This is exactly what type of scenario many people are now speculating about that may have occurred at the Anthony home on Father's Day, June 15th. That perhaps George, Cindy and Casey, were in the midst of arguing, the argument got out of control, none of them were paying any attention to Caylee, and then suddenly a tragic incident happened to cause little Caylee's demise.

[Snewpy]

You know... a thought occurred to me. The protesters have a "right" to protest... The Anthonys have a "right" to be in their own yard..
however..

I also have the "right" to walk down any city street in this country. However there are MANY streets I would not walk down because it would be foolish and I would be endangering my own (and my child's if he/she were with me) safety. It's my right.. but I also have to consider my own safety and wellfare and that of my children. Before exerting any "right" a person should take those things into consideration.

Protesters... is it worth the possible outcome of being hurt or worse to protest ? Anthony's.. is it worth escalating this situation to something even more tragic?

Just a thought


Prayers for Caylee...

[aubrey04]

Hi Everybody! I usually just lurk and read but I feel like ya'll won't tear me up, so I want to post some on this case. I have posted a little but I have seen everyone being nice to newer posters so I will give it a try.

I think, like most of you do, that Casey killed her little ANGEL and needs to be in jail. I think her parents "know in their hearts" that she is dead and just have to hold on to the smallest little thread of hope that that is not true. I have 5 grandkids. I raised the oldest girl. She is in my home as we speak. Her daddy got custody of her when she was less than 2 but really we had her since she was less than 1. Her mommy did not want to be mommy-she -like Casey- wanted to party with her friends and could not be bothered with a baby. She was left with whomever her "mommy" could get to watch her. My son got a midnite call to come get her from a drug dealers house-a neighbor saw her outside by herself at that time of nite and called him. He went and got her and "mommy" never called for 3 whole days to see if he had her. So...mommy never got her back. She has seen her maybe 10 times since. and she lives just across town. It is so scary to think what could have happened to this angelic child!! She has been the light of MY life. She is now 9 yrs old and just as precious as ever! (Yes, I know I am a bit biased) Her dad stepped up to the plate and IS her daddy in every way. He remarried 4 yrs ago and has another little one (who I love just as much!) He and his family live with me since I got divorced last year.

Casey is so irresponsible that I think she has had a life with everyone covering for her. The parents wanted her to grow up and take responsibility for her daughter. Sadly, Casey seems to be the type who will never accept responsibility for her actions unless she is made to. (By being arrested and going to prison). Her parents have obviously let her slide too many times and made excuses for her. I am sure it is a regular occurence in that home. I have been there in my life too. I make excuses sometimes to avoid confrontation. It is so much easier to just do things yourself than to argue over everything.:(

OK - sorry for the long post! Will try to be more brief next post. Thanks for letting me join in. Please be nice.:rose:

Welcome to the boards! :seeya: Great post..

[LouBLou]

I'm looking for a divorce, a suicide, a shooting, a stroke or heart attack, nervous breakdown..something to happen soon.

you mean among us?
There may be a divorce here if I don't get off this comp and spend some time with my family! Good Night all bbbbb

[rosejustrose]

Hi Everybody! I usually just lurk and read but I feel like ya'll won't tear me up, so I want to post some on this case. I have posted a little but I have seen everyone being nice to newer posters so I will give it a try.

I think, like most of you do, that Casey killed her little ANGEL and needs to be in jail. I think her parents "know in their hearts" that she is dead and just have to hold on to the smallest little thread of hope that that is not true. I have 5 grandkids. I raised the oldest girl. She is in my home as we speak. Her daddy got custody of her when she was less than 2 but really we had her since she was less than 1. Her mommy did not want to be mommy-she -like Casey- wanted to party with her friends and could not be bothered with a baby. She was left with whomever her "mommy" could get to watch her. My son got a midnite call to come get her from a drug dealers house-a neighbor saw her outside by herself at that time of nite and called him. He went and got her and "mommy" never called for 3 whole days to see if he had her. So...mommy never got her back. She has seen her maybe 10 times since. and she lives just across town. It is so scary to think what could have happened to this angelic child!! She has been the light of MY life. She is now 9 yrs old and just as precious as ever! (Yes, I know I am a bit biased) Her dad stepped up to the plate and IS her daddy in every way. He remarried 4 yrs ago and has another little one (who I love just as much!) He and his family live with me since I got divorced last year.

Casey is so irresponsible that I think she has had a life with everyone covering for her. The parents wanted her to grow up and take responsibility for her daughter. Sadly, Casey seems to be the type who will never accept responsibility for her actions unless she is made to. (By being arrested and going to prison). Her parents have obviously let her slide too many times and made excuses for her. I am sure it is a regular occurence in that home. I have been there in my life too. I make excuses sometimes to avoid confrontation. It is so much easier to just do things yourself than to argue over everything.:(

OK - sorry for the long post! Will try to be more brief next post. Thanks for letting me join in. Please be nice.:rose:


Welcome! Great post!:seeya:

[Celiarun]

I don't know what I would do in Cindy's case. I understand she can't stay behind closed doors the rest of her life, so I really don't know what she should do. W/this much craziness going on though. It might be better to try and stay out of heated situations.

I seriously doubt you or I will ever find ourselves in Cindy's situation.

I didn't live with my parents when my kids were little but my parents knew all the details of my job, my babysitter and never went 30 days without seeing my kids and they lived in another state. I don't understand Cindy forcing Casey to keep Caylee and then being so detached she didn't know details. In that regard, she is just like Casey. Caylee never bonded with Casey and I question the bond between Casey and Cindy. There is a cycle of dysfunction in this case.

[Ionmhainn]

Disturbed people create disturbances and their kids grow up and become statistics, imvho. I do believe the license plate was captured because whoever was filming it was going to report it to authorities. Kids don't have a prayer of being normal growing up around mothers who don't notice they're injured and rolling around the middle of the street.


I agree. Put it this way...who on this board would consider inviting those people over for dinner and a discussion of this case? Some cases bring out the worst in people and some just bring out the worst people. IMO

[rosejustrose]

True. And the mini-nuts don't fall far from the tree. Too bad we don't require a certification prior to getting pregnant.

ITA, Casey really should have been cetified before getting pregnant. Is that the same as being certifiable? No, I don't think so. IMO.

[kakax]

A little like pot meet kettle...hee hee...As if the protesters don't have multiple skeletons of their own...



Hi LB! :seeya: Glad you haven't floated down river!!!

That video made me sick...both sides. To see a little boy yelling like that made me cringe. Makes casting stones take on a whole new meaning..ugh.

[AJandTam]

Disturbed people create disturbances and their kids grow up and become statistics, imvho. I do believe the license plate was captured because whoever was filming it was going to report it to authorities. Kids don't have a prayer of being normal growing up around mothers who don't notice they're injured and rolling around the middle of the street.

She did notice and told him to get up. She just didn't seem to actually care. She wasn't a compassionate, child advocate so I am assuming she was there for the camera's and attention. ??

[rosejustrose]

I don't know what I would do in Cindy's case. I understand she can't stay behind closed doors the rest of her life, so I really don't know what she should do. W/this much craziness going on though. It might be better to try and stay out of heated situations.

She can send Casey back to jail and stop the madness! IMO.

[spageddy]

Hi all- I just tuned in to the web cam for the first time since this AM. It looks to me like the Garage door is open. the black car is backed in with the trunk open. Loading or unloading boxes? I can't tell- is this new or frozen in time?TIA

[AJandTam]

Certainly looked like she had her posse with her, IMO.

It's going to be unfortunate if she keeps getting into these altercations like that.

[kakax]

So because I'm a glutton for punishment, I just watched some of the bond hearing videos -- most of Det. Melich's, all of George's, and all of Cindy's. I hadn't seen them before.

Couple observations, nothing that hasn't been hashed and re-hashed ...

Cindy is self-absorbed and has a habit of trying to push responsibility for what's happening to HER, onto unnamed OTHERS. (Is this a surprise? No.)

During her testimony, she kept referencing her lack of sleep, lack of food, thirst, and other physical complaints. She was borderline whining, and it seemed to me she was blaming her depleted physical and emotional condition on ... the prosecutor? ... law enforcement? Other maggots/parasites/leeches? Not sure, except she definitely wasn't blaming it on Casey. She cuts a singularly unsympathetic figure, while trying to gain sympathy for herself.

She tried to measure her words in some instances, and then had bouts of verbal diarrhea at other odd times. She was clearly in self-defense, Casey-defense, and Team Anthony-defense mode throughout questioning by the prosecutor. She didn't build up to it gradually as the questions got tougher -- she was right there, right from the beginning.

This tells me that she's not at all unaccustomed to being called into question with regard to family secrets, in particularly having to do with Casey. She's practiced at going on the defensive and hedging her answers, likely because she's been caught with her pants down before. But never before had the stakes been so high. She was defensive sounding throughout, and she even lapsed into snottiness from time to time. "I can't see through the door," was one instance and was an utterly uncalled for, rude remark meant to demean, in response to a question by the prosecutor about whether she'd seen Casey and Caylee the morning of July 16th.

George looked defeated and seemed barely able to keep his emotions in check.

Loved the female prosecutor. Loved the way she spit out the word 'Zanny.' Would love to see her again as the case progresses.

Okay, that's it for now. Back to your regular programming. :seeya:


Great post, SW!! I agree...it is interesting to go back and look at the first few weeks of this saga.

[AJandTam]

welcome aboard!!

Yes, Welcome Jamm

[flipflop]

Hi, all. I just watched the raw video of the confrontation with Cindy and the protesters last night. WOW.

I have a question, what happened to that little boys arm? Who hurt it?

[day2day]

Are the flood lights on someone else's property?

I have no clue?:shrug:

I think this is the cam they are using now. It looks like it is stuck again. :(
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[Glad2Bhere]

Just been dying to know: what does LE stand for/mean? Thanks!

[bchand]

I see this sight only wants sightings of Caylee. Sorry I can't see all the way to heaven.


About what I was thinking.

[Unperson1984]

You know... a thought occurred to me. The protesters have a "right" to protest... The Anthonys have a "right" to be in their own yard..
however..

I also have the "right" to walk down any city street in this country. However there are MANY streets I would not walk down because it would be foolish and I would be endangering my own (and my child's if he/she were with me) safety. It's my right.. but I also have to consider my own safety and wellfare and that of my children. Before exerting any "right" a person should take those things into consideration.

Protesters... is it worth the possible outcome of being hurt or worse to protest ? Anthony's.. is it worth escalating this situation to something even more tragic?

Just a thought


Prayers for Caylee...

A little common sense from both sides would go a long way wouldn't it?

[mattncats]

Sorry to have made you upset..but we have been discussing what was in the news today which happen to be the protesters.

I agree with you. Who cares what these people are doing. So much focus on all that trash. It's not going to help anyone. I'm surprised Cindy would lower herself to their level. She is a nurse. She should show a little more class. At least we know she has had some education.

[bchand]

Just been dying to know: what does LE stand for/mean? Thanks!

Law Enforcement = LE

[summer4meplz]

No..the Anthonys..why would anything happen among us?


I was just kinda kidding, I know I for one spend way too much in here reading....that's nobody's fault but my own..but I just want this baby to be found so badly....and now that no one is really even looking for her....people are just reduced to bickering among themselves.....

I was totally disgusted with that young child yelling horrible things at cindy....and the young mother yelling horrible things at cindy while she is holding her crying, distressed, scared baby....

I've enjoyed most of the people in here, and I like the little personal things people share..I am just sorry it's not allowed....

I think if we were in a room together though, we might look just like cindy and that protestor...some would be "in the face" some would be trying to peacefully negotiate...some (like me) would be in the back of the room wondering what the heck I was doing here....

[msjoni]

Don't know, but it should be dug up and checked out..There could be a deeper hole there..IMO

I also feel, they should have those dogs... go into the house and garage...moo

[kakax]

Just been dying to know: what does LE stand for/mean? Thanks!


Law Enforcement :)

[GrannyJ]

Hi, I've been lurking for a long time but have to finally post a couple of nagging questions that have been bugging me. If they've already been addressed, please forgive. First, I know LE did some digging in the Anthony back yard and the cadaver dogs hit there. Does anybody know if cadaver dogs have a limit on what they can detect; for instance if a body is buried deeply (6 feet or so), can cadaver dogs still detect decomposition? The other thing I was wondering is whether LE checked out all the Anthony vehicles, or just the one Casey was driving? Also, is Casey's car still in LE possession?

[AJandTam]

Since she can't do much, because of her notariaty, (which she perpetuated) what else can she do but be responsible for the yellow tape and No Trespassing signs? One day they are both going to be in 'snap' mode and give some protester and out of body experience. Wish LE would confiscate that
h a m m e r the way they both swing it around, yikes.

:rose:Caylee


I can see this whole thing esculating and something else happening as well.

[KKKKKKatie]

SeeinG THE flood lights on the house and the two Lawn Rangers sitting in their chairs, just makes me want to GO TO THE HOUSE AND PROTEST. The whole picture screams "ENTITLEMENT'. Today is the day I can say I have grown to hate ALL the Anthony's. I wish I NEVER come across such a callous and selfish group of people again. I do hope they all end up in jail.

I think you are looking at an old picture...try this

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[WHITECATS]

Welcome Jamms Nana !!!:seeya:

[Pag Boi]

Oh thank you rsr! I'll check there I think I did see that thread last night but it was very late. I sometimes read there. I have for years, I miss the old format still. I liked the old library.
So her own brother was the source for that info; fascinating.

I wonder what he is thinking today. We sure haven't seen him showing support by physically being there for his Sis now have we. What he knows could be a gold mine of info into the pathology of this family. The dysfunction and how it got this way. Was it Cindy's father or her mother who taught them all this? Where did this start?

You know I still dont believe that video tape was of this year, Caylee looks much older, MUch Much older in a few photos of her this year. I am certain that she didnt visit on Fathers day and if she did; then the whole family is lying it's as simple as that. Why havent any nurses that work at that home come fwd to say; I saw Caylee that day, I know she was really there....but No we've heard nothing. Absolutely nothing from anyone who worked there, if they truly saw Caylee This Year Fathers Day. No one can even tell us what Caylee last had on when she was alive. And Cindy and GA should be able to tell us all; what pair of clothing of Caylee's is missing. Her jammies, or her Pants, or her swimsuit. Which. I want to know; what was this child last wearing? We havnt a clue. She was probably in her bathing suit, I wonder if they can produce that orange one she had on in that one photo of her in her crocs and bathing suit.....

Dots




So I guess you think LE lied on the stand at the bond hearing and in the paperwork released about the date of the nursing home video? Or are you just a better investigator than those carrying a badge and investigating this case?

What cases have you followed where medical professionals came forward PRIOR TO giving testimony on the stand? Trials are not held in the court of public opinion. Health professionals have a code conduct that they follow. Maybe your PI job didn't require it, but thankfully some working professionals have standards - and adhere to them.

If LE is wrong about the date, your wish will never come true. No Anthony will ever be held fully responsible if LE bungled the date of the video. jmoo

[AJandTam]

You know... a thought occurred to me. The protesters have a "right" to protest... The Anthonys have a "right" to be in their own yard..
however..

I also have the "right" to walk down any city street in this country. However there are MANY streets I would not walk down because it would be foolish and I would be endangering my own (and my child's if he/she were with me) safety. It's my right.. but I also have to consider my own safety and wellfare and that of my children. Before exerting any "right" a person should take those things into consideration.

Protesters... is it worth the possible outcome of being hurt or worse to protest ? Anthony's.. is it worth escalating this situation to something even more tragic?

Just a thought


Prayers for Caylee...


:beer: I agree, and we've had how many violent type incidents now?

[AlohaRainbow]

Yep, that's the one. That's an outdated article, it went to the Supreme Court. I appreciate your providing it, though, now I have a name to google. :seeya:

Here it is. The conviction was thrown out.

http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/document.asp?documentID=15992

There are also other instances of this situation at the bottom of this link.
thanks for the updated info on that case

[AJandTam]

I seriously doubt you or I will ever find ourselves in Cindy's situation.

I didn't live with my parents when my kids were little but my parents knew all the details of my job, my babysitter and never went 30 days without seeing my kids and they lived in another state. I don't understand Cindy forcing Casey to keep Caylee and then being so detached she didn't know details. In that regard, she is just like Casey. Caylee never bonded with Casey and I question the bond between Casey and Cindy. There is a cycle of dysfunction in this case.

Thank you Cel, Honestly, I think there is something else at the core of this. I think there is some issues that have haunted this family for years.

[kakax]

Thanks Kafax. Other than the high winds and no power and water for 24 hours...I Actually weathered it better than Geraldo...LOL. Thanks for checking on me and the conversation the other night. :D



Enjoyed it!! You have water now? I'm assuming you have power since you are posting LOL!

This case is crazy, huh? New days bring new insanity...just waiting on an arrest, hopefully soon.:biggrin:

[OneUp]

Nurses aren't paying attention to who comes IN the door, they are just making sure their patients don't go OUT the door. LOL. Seriously, if its a large assisted living/ NH it could be NO staff member that saw or remembered her. We have alot to do, visitor monitoring isn't one of them.
However, a newer nice NH or assisted living might have a video surveillence system. However that might be on a 3 day loop or some such business. jmoBare and jenny, I'm basing my belief that Caylee did go to the NH on the fact that two detectives went their personally and checked. They spoke to a director and an RN ( I think they director of nursing there?...not sure), and also seized the sign in sheet. Also Great Grandma was interviewed and states Caylee was there. She is part of the family, but I don't know of any evidence she ever lied so I'll believe her too. I usually give people I've never caught in a lie the benefit of the doubt. ( She seems to have remained pretty neutral in all of this too...of course, who knows what all she had to say to the police?/??/??)
With three witnesses and a sign in sheet AND a dated video, I'll go with LE and consider that date accurate.
The interviews or at least mention of them was within the 400 pages of docs. released ( I don't think Great Grandma's was there, but it was mentioned...I remember the part about having dinner with her after). I can't do a specific page or link, all the info. I have saved on this computer is making it too slow to pull that up. Sorry!
JMO.

[AJandTam]

So because I'm a glutton for punishment, I just watched some of the bond hearing videos -- most of Det. Melich's, all of George's, and all of Cindy's. I hadn't seen them before.

Couple observations, nothing that hasn't been hashed and re-hashed ...

Cindy is self-absorbed and has a habit of trying to push responsibility for what's happening to HER, onto unnamed OTHERS. (Is this a surprise? No.)

During her testimony, she kept referencing her lack of sleep, lack of food, thirst, and other physical complaints. She was borderline whining, and it seemed to me she was blaming her depleted physical and emotional condition on ... the prosecutor? ... law enforcement? Other maggots/parasites/leeches? Not sure, except she definitely wasn't blaming it on Casey. She cuts a singularly unsympathetic figure, while trying to gain sympathy for herself.

She tried to measure her words in some instances, and then had bouts of verbal diarrhea at other odd times. She was clearly in self-defense, Casey-defense, and Team Anthony-defense mode throughout questioning by the prosecutor. She didn't build up to it gradually as the questions got tougher -- she was right there, right from the beginning.

This tells me that she's not at all unaccustomed to being called into question with regard to family secrets, in particularly having to do with Casey. She's practiced at going on the defensive and hedging her answers, likely because she's been caught with her pants down before. But never before had the stakes been so high. She was defensive sounding throughout, and she even lapsed into snottiness from time to time. "I can't see through the door," was one instance and was an utterly uncalled for, rude remark meant to demean, in response to a question by the prosecutor about whether she'd seen Casey and Caylee the morning of July 16th.

George looked defeated and seemed barely able to keep his emotions in check.

Loved the female prosecutor. Loved the way she spit out the word 'Zanny.' Would love to see her again as the case progresses.

Okay, that's it for now. Back to your regular programming. :seeya:

I agree, infact, I just said that in a previous post. There are some secrets somewhere underneath the surface of this family.

[tiny paw-prints]

I think Cindys motive is that she is 'creating' evidence for the injunction.

Knowing that she can inflame the passion in protesters just by her presence to create a situation, a police report, for an end to another means.

Cindy 'creating' evidence?

In essence, isn't that what she was doing to gain full custody of Caylee?

[AJandTam]

She can send Casey back to jail and stop the madness! IMO.


Yes she could, but, I think she won't because if she stops defending Casey, she might have to face what went so wrong w/Casey in the first place. Plus, she loses the grandbabe and her daughter.

[bluwaters]

Now Cindy is suppose to be able to tell who is a drive by insulter and a fruitloop protester. A nut is a nut, they only get cracked differently.

I think the point is that C&G have chosen of their own free will to harbor and protect Orlando's public enemy #1, as is their right.
In doing so, they have drawn quite a bit of negative attention to themselves. That's certainly to be expected.
This means that people who don't like the fact that Casey is out of jail do have the right to peaceful protest.
Many from the community and beyond have exercised that right.

Some are not peaceful however, but come there more to harass and heckle.
They are not protesting in good faith.

The people that Cindy tussled with last night were not protesters but hecklers.
They used poor judgment.

Cindy initially tried to ignore, then reason, and finally got into an outright confrontation with them.
She used poor judgment.

C&G absolutely have the right to be out on their property whenever they chose.
However, having raised the ire of the community by their choice to bail and house Casey, they have attracted certain bad elements to themselves.
Common sense would dictate that avoiding confrontations with the angry mob is a good idea.
Exercising the right to use their property at any time may not be the best idea in the present situation.
If Cindy cannot refrain from becoming engaged with the hecklers, she should do herself a favor and stay away from them.
She has the ability to choose to not be drawn into a fight.

There is no law against stupidity.

Watch the full tape from last night.
There was more than enough hate and stupidity to go around for all who were involved in that scene.

Everyone suffers. The children raised in this manner learn to hate and despise others they don't agree with.

That entire incident should never have happened.
There were no protesters involved in last night's ruckus.
Those people were hecklers with no point to prove, just venom to spew.
In my opinion the inappropriate exposure of children to that scene, not to mention the encouraged participation in the heckling by one young boy, is tantamount to child abuse.

Cindy could have chosen to not stoop to their level, taken the high road, walked away and called LE.
But, she didn't make a good choice.
Cindy placed herself squarely in the same category as her attackers.
It's too bad that when Cindy is presented with an opportunity to show herself as a person of reason and dignity, she instead shows herself as vulgar and mean as her attackers.

jmho

Cindy Anthony Clash: Extended Video
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1

[Pag Boi]

Bare and jenny, I'm basing my belief that Caylee did go to the NH on the fact that two detectives went their personally and checked. They spoke to a director and an RN ( I think they director of nursing there?...not sure), and also seized the sign in sheet. Also Great Grandma was interviewed and states Caylee was there. She is part of the family, but I don't know of any evidence she ever lied so I'll believe her too. I usually give people I've never caught in a lie the benefit of the doubt. ( She seems to have remained pretty neutral in all of this too...of course, who knows what all she had to say to the police?/??/??)
With three witnesses and a sign in sheet AND a dated video, I'll go with LE and consider that date accurate.
The interviews or at least mention of them was within the 400 pages of docs. released ( I don't think Great Grandma's was there, but it was mentioned...I remember the part about having dinner with her after). I can't do a specific page or link, all the info. I have saved on this computer is making it too slow to pull that up. Sorry!
JMO.

Great post

[Shellberry]

Hi all- I just tuned in to the web cam for the first time since this AM. It looks to me like the Garage door is open. the black car is backed in with the trunk open. Loading or unloading boxes? I can't tell- is this new or frozen in time?TIA

I have the same pic
http://198.170.125.140/webcams/mobile1/mobilecam1.jpg

[hamebone]

Thanks Kafax. Other than the high winds and no power and water for 24 hours...I Actually weathered it better than Geraldo...LOL. Thanks for checking on me and the conversation the other night. :D

Hiya LB...so glad you got through IKE safely!

wonder what will happen this week, that will make the news...hoping they find Caylee...:rose:

[Ionmhainn]

WOW do u really have 32.000 posts??

Some one should invite you for dinner thats pretty amazing!! :)


No prizes for post counts, lol! I made a personal decision never to post if I'm angry and "ban" myself to the games board...wonderfully "calming." ;) I also find it easier to sort out fact from fiction when I'm following a case. Works for me. I'm here reading every day though, hoping for some news of Caylee...

[Pebbles]

I do not agree with the protesters confronting Cindy,especially with their children in tow. If you want to protest, please do it peacefully. Cindy goes outside to make you upset and angry, don't give her the satisfaction of being able to accomplish that. Ranting and raving will not bring justice to Caylee, and if little Caylee is looking down on you, I am sure she would not be happy seeing everyone so upset.


Our news report this evening said that Cindy feels the protesters should be out searching for Caylee. I agree Cindy, many people want to find Caylee. So Cindy instead of going outside looking for a fight, just go into your house and ask Casey where the protesters should begin looking! I am sure the protesters will then leave you alone and begin searching for Caylee.



As far as the vigil, why is the vigil being held in the front of the house. Because the cameras are there? Are you thinking, look at us, we are victims, the protesters are picking on us and we can't have a peaceful vigil. Why can't the vigil be held in a secure area, away from the spotlight out of respect for Caylee.


Why don't you hold the vigil in Casey's room??

[Nellie]

Video of Cindy and a protester bickering back and forth and the protesters child gets hurt..bout all.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

Wow, you walk away and look what you miss!
This is just pathetic!
And those dam$ed signs she keeps hammering in....is that all she can think of with her g-baby missing? I'm sorry, but my mind would be elsewhere.
LE needs to arrest Casey and put a stop to this madness.

[AJandTam]

NO, if she sends Casey back to jail, she looses attention.

I don't know her but I guess that could be too. I have wondered if she might be getting more attention from her husband now that they have this bond over a family crisis. just a thought, I don't know if that would actually happen or not. This is a huge crisis, and IIRC, they were about to divorce before this all happened.

[rosejustrose]

So I guess you think LE lied on the stand at the bond hearing and in the paperwork released about the date of the nursing home video? Or are you just a better investigator than those carrying a badge and investigating this case?

What cases have you followed where medical professionals came forward PRIOR TO giving testimony on the stand? Trials are not held in the court of public opinion. Health professionals have a code conduct that they follow. Maybe your PI job didn't require it, but thankfully some working professionals have standards - and adhere to them.

If LE is wrong about the date, your wish will never come true. No Anthony will ever be held fully responsible if LE bungled the date of the video. jmoo

:shrug: Why so mean?

[Pebbles]

So because I'm a glutton for punishment, I just watched some of the bond hearing videos -- most of Det. Melich's, all of George's, and all of Cindy's. I hadn't seen them before.

Couple observations, nothing that hasn't been hashed and re-hashed ...

Cindy is self-absorbed and has a habit of trying to push responsibility for what's happening to HER, onto unnamed OTHERS. (Is this a surprise? No.)

During her testimony, she kept referencing her lack of sleep, lack of food, thirst, and other physical complaints. She was borderline whining, and it seemed to me she was blaming her depleted physical and emotional condition on ... the prosecutor? ... law enforcement? Other maggots/parasites/leeches? Not sure, except she definitely wasn't blaming it on Casey. She cuts a singularly unsympathetic figure, while trying to gain sympathy for herself.

She tried to measure her words in some instances, and then had bouts of verbal diarrhea at other odd times. She was clearly in self-defense, Casey-defense, and Team Anthony-defense mode throughout questioning by the prosecutor. She didn't build up to it gradually as the questions got tougher -- she was right there, right from the beginning.

This tells me that she's not at all unaccustomed to being called into question with regard to family secrets, in particularly having to do with Casey. She's practiced at going on the defensive and hedging her answers, likely because she's been caught with her pants down before. But never before had the stakes been so high. She was defensive sounding throughout, and she even lapsed into snottiness from time to time. "I can't see through the door," was one instance and was an utterly uncalled for, rude remark meant to demean, in response to a question by the prosecutor about whether she'd seen Casey and Caylee the morning of July 16th.

George looked defeated and seemed barely able to keep his emotions in check.

Loved the female prosecutor. Loved the way she spit out the word 'Zanny.' Would love to see her again as the case progresses.

Okay, that's it for now. Back to your regular programming. :seeya:


Excellent post SayWHAT :beer:

[bluwaters]

Forgive me if this has already been asked but are they using Web Cam 1? I'm not getting a picture.

It's probaby been answered 3 times by now, since I am behind, but this one is working for me:
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

:)

[rosejustrose]

Well one good thing about this is that they cant enjoy that Caylee blood money, they have to spend every penny on bodyguards, attorneys, pr agents etc.

But not one penny searching for Caylee. How sad.

[MyrDawn]

I think Cindys motive is that she is 'creating' evidence for the injunction.

Knowing that she can inflame the passion in protesters just by her presence to create a situation, a police report, for an end to another means.

Cindy's "presence" there is in her own yard. The same can't be said for the protesters. If anyone is creating "evidence", it's the protesters that are invading that neighborhood, night after night, screaming and cursing and creating evidence against themselves for the injunction. JMO

[CNTM]

What a bunch of people!
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html