sunday 9-14-08 afternoon/evening thread.

[Shellberry]

new in the past 10 mims it's been froze all day

mines been working all day.
I stopped looking at it for awhile though.
I think I see the same scene you do.

edit-I see a sidewalk full of people sitting out front

[Joan Weiss]

I think the point is that C&G have chosen of their own free will to harbor and protect Orlando's public enemy #1, as is their right.
In doing so, they have drawn quite a bit of negative attention to themselves. That's certainly to be expected.
This means that people who don't like the fact that Casey is out of jail do have the right to peaceful protest.
Many from the community and beyond have exercised that right.

Some are not peaceful however, but come there more to harass and heckle.
They are not protesting in good faith.

The people that Cindy tussled with last night were not protesters but hecklers.
They used poor judgment.

Cindy initially tried to ignore, then reason, and finally got into an outright confrontation with them.
She used poor judgment.

C&G absolutely have the right to be out on their property whenever they chose.
However, having raised the ire of the community by their choice to bail and house Casey, they have attracted certain bad elements to themselves.
Common sense would dictate that avoiding confrontations with the angry mob is a good idea.
Exercising the right to use their property at any time may not be the best idea in the present situation.
If Cindy cannot refrain from becoming engaged with the hecklers, she should do herself a favor and stay away from them.
She has the ability to choose to not be drawn into a fight.

There is no law against stupidity.

Watch the full tape from last night.
There was more than enough hate and stupidity to go around for all who were involved in that scene.

Everyone suffers. The children raised in this manner learn to hate and despise others they don't agree with.

That entire incident should never have happened.
There were no protesters involved in last night's ruckus.
Those people were hecklers with no point to prove, just venom to spew.
In my opinion the inappropriate exposure of children to that scene, not to mention the encouraged participation in the heckling by one young boy, is tantamount to child abuse.

Cindy could have chosen to not stoop to their level, taken the high road, walked away and called LE.
But, she didn't make a good choice.
Cindy placed herself squarely in the same category as her attackers.
It's too bad that when Cindy is presented with an opportunity to show herself as a person of reason and dignity, she instead shows herself as vulgar and mean as her attackers.

jmho

Cindy Anthony Clash: Extended Video
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1Thank you, blu, my sentiments exactly. Misery loves company, imo.

[Pebbles]

I have no clue?:shrug:

I think this is the cam they are using now. It looks like it is stuck again. :(
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

I looked at both cams, one looks like it is from last night (cam 2) and the other cannot be correct because the sky is too light.

[Shellberry]

well there all lined up and sitting in chairs:punch:

it is crazy but at least they are facing the house and not the street/cams



imo/jmo

[barskin&co.]

So because I'm a glutton for punishment, I just watched some of the bond hearing videos -- most of Det. Melich's, all of George's, and all of Cindy's. I hadn't seen them before.

Couple observations, nothing that hasn't been hashed and re-hashed ...

Cindy is self-absorbed and has a habit of trying to push responsibility for what's happening to HER, onto unnamed OTHERS. (Is this a surprise? No.)

During her testimony, she kept referencing her lack of sleep, lack of food, thirst, and other physical complaints. She was borderline whining, and it seemed to me she was blaming her depleted physical and emotional condition on ... the prosecutor? ... law enforcement? Other maggots/parasites/leeches? Not sure, except she definitely wasn't blaming it on Casey. She cuts a singularly unsympathetic figure, while trying to gain sympathy for herself.

She tried to measure her words in some instances, and then had bouts of verbal diarrhea at other odd times. She was clearly in self-defense, Casey-defense, and Team Anthony-defense mode throughout questioning by the prosecutor. She didn't build up to it gradually as the questions got tougher -- she was right there, right from the beginning.

This tells me that she's not at all unaccustomed to being called into question with regard to family secrets, in particularly having to do with Casey. She's practiced at going on the defensive and hedging her answers, likely because she's been caught with her pants down before. But never before had the stakes been so high. She was defensive sounding throughout, and she even lapsed into snottiness from time to time. "I can't see through the door," was one instance and was an utterly uncalled for, rude remark meant to demean, in response to a question by the prosecutor about whether she'd seen Casey and Caylee the morning of July 16th.

George looked defeated and seemed barely able to keep his emotions in check.

Loved the female prosecutor. Loved the way she spit out the word 'Zanny.' Would love to see her again as the case progresses.

Okay, that's it for now. Back to your regular programming. :seeya:


Yes, Cindy was angry and combative from the beginning, waaaaaay before protestors got involved. One classic moment from the bond hearing, when called upon to explain her belief in the existance of the the nanny, she said, "I've never seen God, but I know He exists."

[Shellberry]

I looked at both cams, one looks like it is from last night (cam 2) and the other cannot be correct because the sky is too light.

it is correct, I just came in from outside
its still very light tonight.

imo/jmo

[Joan Weiss]

What a bunch of people!
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.htmlOh, Lord. Why can't people get together and pray for Caylee?

[bluwaters]

It is their property. By law, they own it and must maintain it. A public easement means that the public can cross over it. The public can't loiter on it, though.
Oooh, see I didn't know that.
I know that they must maintain it, I can understand they are pissed that it is becoming a trampled dirt lot.
Is protesting considered loitering?
Does this mean that protesters are restrained to the sidewalk only?
TIA:seeya: I am trying to understand the little stuff that is so big a part of the problem between the protesters, the Anthony's, and the public in general.
Thank you for your answer. :seeya:

[bookie]

Cindy's "presence" there is in her own yard. The same can't be said for the protesters. If anyone is creating "evidence", it's the protesters that are invading that neighborhood, night after night, screaming and cursing and creating evidence against themselves for the injunction. JMO


And evidence for CPS to use against them in an investigation into how they are raising their own children so poorly. That woman didn't even check on her injured son rolling around in the middle of the road. What does that say about her???

[Joan Weiss]

Cindy's "presence" there is in her own yard. The same can't be said for the protesters. If anyone is creating "evidence", it's the protesters that are invading that neighborhood, night after night, screaming and cursing and creating evidence against themselves for the injunction. JMOWhateverrrr...

[bchand]

well there all lined up and sitting in chairs:punch:


Seem to be facing the house tonight too instead of the webcam.

[Kathlb]

Oooh, see I didn't know that.
I know that they must maintain it, I can understand they are pissed that it is becoming a trampled dirt lot.
Is protesting considered loitering?
Does this mean that protesters are restrained to the sidewalk only?
TIA:seeya: I am trying to understand the little stuff that is so big a part of the problem between the protesters, the Anthony's, and the public in general.
Thank you for your answer. :seeya:

I'm not trying to disagree, however when LE have been called such as in the case of the lady with the St. Bernard dog, she was on the easement and they said she was on public property and didn't have to move. MOO

[kakax]

Yes, Cindy was angry and combative from the beginning, waaaaaay before protestors got involved. One classic moment from the bond hearing, when called upon to explain her belief in the existance of the the nanny, she said, "I've never seen God, but I know he exists."



I agree....and if you watch the first interviews she did, with NG and GVS she used "sweetie" to talk down to the hosts. From the very beginning, it was hard to be sympathetic toward her.

I watched a video that someone posted from the M and J show on July 31st where she said it would be the media's fault if Caylee was not found.

How can you feel sympathy when no responsibilty is placed where it should be?

[grammie/va]

I think the point is that C&G have chosen of their own free will to harbor and protect Orlando's public enemy #1, as is their right.
In doing so, they have drawn quite a bit of negative attention to themselves. That's certainly to be expected.
This means that people who don't like the fact that Casey is out of jail do have the right to peaceful protest.
Many from the community and beyond have exercised that right.

Some are not peaceful however, but come there more to harass and heckle.
They are not protesting in good faith.

The people that Cindy tussled with last night were not protesters but hecklers.
They used poor judgment.

Cindy initially tried to ignore, then reason, and finally got into an outright confrontation with them.
She used poor judgment.

C&G absolutely have the right to be out on their property whenever they chose.
However, having raised the ire of the community by their choice to bail and house Casey, they have attracted certain bad elements to themselves.
Common sense would dictate that avoiding confrontations with the angry mob is a good idea.
Exercising the right to use their property at any time may not be the best idea in the present situation.
If Cindy cannot refrain from becoming engaged with the hecklers, she should do herself a favor and stay away from them.
She has the ability to choose to not be drawn into a fight.

There is no law against stupidity.

Watch the full tape from last night.
There was more than enough hate and stupidity to go around for all who were involved in that scene.

Everyone suffers. The children raised in this manner learn to hate and despise others they don't agree with.

That entire incident should never have happened.
There were no protesters involved in last night's ruckus.
Those people were hecklers with no point to prove, just venom to spew.
In my opinion the inappropriate exposure of children to that scene, not to mention the encouraged participation in the heckling by one young boy, is tantamount to child abuse.

Cindy could have chosen to not stoop to their level, taken the high road, walked away and called LE.
But, she didn't make a good choice.
Cindy placed herself squarely in the same category as her attackers.
It's too bad that when Cindy is presented with an opportunity to show herself as a person of reason and dignity, she instead shows herself as vulgar and mean as her attackers.

jmho

Cindy Anthony Clash: Extended Video
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1


I Agree! You do have a way with words, I have noticed this in a lot of your post. If I ever need someone to speak or write words for me can I hire you? LOL:)

[Acorn]

yep doesnt that look like a brown long table sitting behind the b/g car i bet they have the vigil

For the coffee and donuts :D

[bluwaters]

Hi Everybody! I usually just lurk and read but I feel like ya'll won't tear me up, so I want to post some on this case. I have posted a little but I have seen everyone being nice to newer posters so I will give it a try.

I think, like most of you do, that Casey killed her little ANGEL and needs to be in jail. I think her parents "know in their hearts" that she is dead and just have to hold on to the smallest little thread of hope that that is not true. I have 5 grandkids. I raised the oldest girl. She is in my home as we speak. Her daddy got custody of her when she was less than 2 but really we had her since she was less than 1. Her mommy did not want to be mommy-she -like Casey- wanted to party with her friends and could not be bothered with a baby. She was left with whomever her "mommy" could get to watch her. My son got a midnite call to come get her from a drug dealers house-a neighbor saw her outside by herself at that time of nite and called him. He went and got her and "mommy" never called for 3 whole days to see if he had her. So...mommy never got her back. She has seen her maybe 10 times since. and she lives just across town. It is so scary to think what could have happened to this angelic child!! She has been the light of MY life. She is now 9 yrs old and just as precious as ever! (Yes, I know I am a bit biased) Her dad stepped up to the plate and IS her daddy in every way. He remarried 4 yrs ago and has another little one (who I love just as much!) He and his family live with me since I got divorced last year.

Casey is so irresponsible that I think she has had a life with everyone covering for her. The parents wanted her to grow up and take responsibility for her daughter. Sadly, Casey seems to be the type who will never accept responsibility for her actions unless she is made to. (By being arrested and going to prison). Her parents have obviously let her slide too many times and made excuses for her. I am sure it is a regular occurence in that home. I have been there in my life too. I make excuses sometimes to avoid confrontation. It is so much easier to just do things yourself than to argue over everything.:(

OK - sorry for the long post! Will try to be more brief next post. Thanks for letting me join in. Please be nice.:rose:
Thank you for joining us! What a heart warning post. That is one blessed child. :rose:

[martin]

I do not agree with the protesters confronting Cindy,especially with their children in tow. If you want to protest, please do it peacefully. Cindy goes outside to make you upset and angry, don't give her the satisfaction of being able to accomplish that. Ranting and raving will not bring justice to Caylee, and if little Caylee is looking down on you, I am sure she would not be happy seeing everyone so upset.


Our news report this evening said that Cindy feels the protesters should be out searching for Caylee. I agree Cindy, many people want to find Caylee. So Cindy instead of going outside looking for a fight, just go into your house and ask Casey where the protesters should begin looking! I am sure the protesters will then leave you alone and begin searching for Caylee.



As far as the vigil, why is the vigil being held in the front of the house. Because the cameras are there? Are you thinking, look at us, we are victims, the protesters are picking on us and we can't have a peaceful vigil. Why can't the vigil be held in a secure area, away from the spotlight out of respect for Caylee.


Why don't you hold the vigil in Casey's room??


that's one thing that burns me up - she keeps saying folks should be searching for caylee. WHY ISN'T SHE SEARCHING FOR CAYLEE??? this is past ridiculous.

[chrissybot]

Hi, I've been lurking for a long time but have to finally post a couple of nagging questions that have been bugging me. If they've already been addressed, please forgive. First, I know LE did some digging in the Anthony back yard and the cadaver dogs hit there. Does anybody know if cadaver dogs have a limit on what they can detect; for instance if a body is buried deeply (6 feet or so), can cadaver dogs still detect decomposition? The other thing I was wondering is whether LE checked out all the Anthony vehicles, or just the one Casey was driving? Also, is Casey's car still in LE possession?

Good first post & welcome:seeya:. I have been wondering about how far down the cad.dogs can detect also. Now I will go back to see what great answers the other posters gave you, since I am a bit behind, AGAIN!

[IfIMay]

I finally saw the video, what trailer park or rock did those lowlifes crawl from under?

apparently the same one Cindy rose from...:shrug:

[bchand]

Yes, Cindy was angry and combative from the beginning, waaaaaay before protestors got involved. One classic moment from the bond hearing, when called upon to explain her belief in the existance of the the nanny, she said, "I've never seen God, but I know He exists."

She also told the prosecutor that one of her questions was irrelevant. (About their finances I believe.) The prosecutor straightened her right out though and said, we're discussing your ability to come up with the bond - so we WILL now talk about your finances.

Cindy won't even obey the rules of a courtroom IMO.

[kitty1182]

that's one thing that burns me up - she keeps saying folks should be searching for caylee. WHY ISN'T SHE SEARCHING FOR CAYLEE??? this is past ridiculous.

She said she had 3 people looking for her..:read:

[Shellberry]

Guessing they are getting ready for the vigil. Probably brought some popcorn too. Sad...
I thought the vigil was supposed to be in tampa today?

is there a link to the vigil at the anthonys?

If it was in tampa I really wanted to go, I havent been able to find anything online about it though.


imo/jmo

[Celiarun]

Oooh, see I didn't know that.
I know that they must maintain it, I can understand they are pissed that it is becoming a trampled dirt lot.
Is protesting considered loitering?
Does this mean that protesters are restrained to the sidewalk only?
TIA:seeya: I am trying to understand the little stuff that is so big a part of the problem between the protesters, the Anthony's, and the public in general.
Thank you for your answer. :seeya:

I don't know if what ordinances that community might have and whether the streets and sidewalks are public or if they belong to a Homeowner's Association, improvement district, etc. There is no absolute right to protest. It has to be peaceful and that often is an opinion call by LE. Those fools last night weren't peaceful by any stretch of the imagination.

[bluwaters]

Did you see the part where the mother stayed up near the driveway and as Cindy went to the corner of her property to pound signs the young boys went after her and stood on the sidewalk screaming?
Yes! Appalling. That child is another violent man in the making.
I would love to know if he was taken to ER last night.
His last screams to Cindy as they drove off made me think that his arm was perhaps not broken as I had initially feared. He was in significant pain when he fell to ground though.

[CNTM]

I finally saw the video, what trailer park or rock did those lowlifes crawl from under?

I just watched it also!:flamemad: They are all nuts! Both sides of the game. Geez, if I had taken my young'uns to something like that and it was on tape for the whole world to see, I would not be able to show my face in public! I would never be able to live that down.

[kitty1182]

I know it's not, but it kinda looks like Casey standing out there with the dark hair and short shorts..

[cloe23]

It's probaby been answered 3 times by now, since I am behind, but this one is working for me:
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

:)


I am just getting a white screen,when I load it. Maybe my computer is not tough enough to watch the cam.
I was able to watch the web cams yesterday.
:shrug:

[frances1]

So do you think these are people attending the vigil, as opposed to protestors? If so, they are preempting the space.

[flipflop]

Yes! Appalling. That child is another violent man in the making.
I would love to know if he was taken to ER last night.
His last screams to Cindy as they drove off made me think that his arm was perhaps not broken as I had initially feared. He was in significant pain when he fell to ground though.


I asked earler, what exactly happened to his arm? I did see the video but couldn't tell what happened.

[AJandTam]

I just watched it also!:flamemad: They are all nuts! Both sides of the game. Geez, if I had taken my young'uns to something like that and it was on tape for the whole world to see, I would not be able to show my face in public! I would never be able to live that down.

I"m w/you on that one. I wouldn't either.

[kitty1182]

I am just getting a white screen,when I load it. Maybe my computer is not tough enough to watch the cam.
I was able to watch the web cams yesterday.
:shrug:

I have to keep refreshing..

[farrahrani]

Hi, all. I just watched the raw video of the confrontation with Cindy and the protesters last night. WOW.

I have a question, what happened to that little boys arm? Who hurt it?

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1


In case this hasn't been answered, I'm just coming back after fixing dinner, and trying to catch up.
The child's mom and the man. She was going after Cindy. Cindy was being pulled back by a neighbor. When the guy was pulling the mom back, he hit the door which slammed on the kid.

[rosejustrose]

that's one thing that burns me up - she keeps saying folks should be searching for caylee. WHY ISN'T SHE SEARCHING FOR CAYLEE??? this is past ridiculous.

Don't ya know, she is. You just can't see her doing it because she's doing it inside her house. She has 3 people doing the outside searching.:rolleyes:

[flipflop]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1


In case this hasn't been answered, I'm just coming back after fixing dinner, and trying to catch up.
The child's mom and the man. She was going after Cindy. Cindy was being pulled back by a neighbor. When the guy was pulling the mom back, he hit the door which slammed on the kid.

Ok, thank you a lot was going on during that part of the video and I couldn't tell what exactly happened.

[FrankieBones1]

I finally saw the video, what trailer park or rock did those lowlifes crawl from under?
Which video?

[Shellberry]

Cindy could have chosen to not stoop to their level, taken the high road, walked away and called LE.
But, she didn't make a good choice.
Cindy placed herself squarely in the same category as her attackers.
It's too bad that when Cindy is presented with an opportunity to show herself as a person of reason and dignity, she instead shows herself as vulgar and mean as her attackers.

jmho

Cindy Anthony Clash: Extended Video
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1
snip
I think cindy did choose to not stoop to their level last night when she went out after 11 pm. she could have gone out at any time during daylight, but she didnt. she waited until dark, when it was late.
I also think, if anyone in the anthony family calls le about protesters, it will be a moot point.
I think all the neighbors who are being affected need to start calling when the groups gather, yelling starts or anything is going on out there.
le is more likely to listen to them, imo



imo/jmo

[Duckaroo]

I still have not gotten over the one protester that was shouting "Where do you people come from!?!"

[kaylynn]

I asked earler, what exactly happened to his arm? I did see the video but couldn't tell what happened.

His arm had gotten stuck in the door of the car apparently.

There is a picture of it here.. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7430252&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Celiarun]

So do you think these are people attending the vigil, as opposed to protestors? If so, they are preempting the space.

Good question. They are blocking the sidewalk. If I was a neighbor, I'd get those vigils booted off the sidewalk and into the Anthony's back yard. (And while they are there, they might dig around and look for Caylee.)

The Anthony's can't whine about protesters out front and then create their own version of the same thing, imvho.

[Shellberry]

Sherriff is there now. Guess to control the vigil.

oh I see him, looks like he just drove off

[kakax]

Sherriff is there now. Guess to control the vigil.


Protesters on the move...

[flipflop]

His arm had gotten stuck in the door of the car apparently.

There is a picture of it here.. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7430252&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Oh thank you.

[rosejustrose]

I think that last week the protesters stood back and the people for the vigil were on the drive way

I was under the impression the protesters were there for justice for Caylee. Why couldn't they join the vigil and show their respect for little Caylee's memory?

[flipflop]

Protesters on the move...

Looks like they made them move.

[kaylynn]

Don't ya know, she is. You just can't see her doing it because she's doing it inside her house. She has 3 people doing the outside searching.:rolleyes:

I would love for someone (Nancy Grace, Greta, etc) to find and interview those 3 people and see exactly what is being done and if they're getting anywhere.

[kitty1182]

Don't click on refresh it is a wash. right click on the white screen when you get a white screen. Click on show picture. You should get a picture. If the white screen persists just keep repeating that.

Kafax taught me how to do that.

Hope that helps.

Thanks!! :beer::beer:

[bluwaters]

Oh oh, looks like tonight's group has already ripped down the tape around the easement in front of the house.

[kakax]

Looks like they made them move.



Nice looking bunch, huh? ugh.

[rosejustrose]

Can you image the gall of that remark?? Cindy's arrogance is stunning, IMO. The entire pow-wow was on account of her daughter, the entire mess made by HER daughter, and she has the nerve to get cocky in the bond hearing? She is really something else, that one.

Not only is Casey no surprise under the circumstances, but the lack of family and friend support around them during this time is no surprise either, IMO.


Great observations!

[Shellberry]

ha-I suppose the cop told them to get off the prop, I saw them all gathering up seats, then they were walking across the street with smirks on their faces

[Pebbles]

Yes! Appalling. That child is another violent man in the making.
I would love to know if he was taken to ER last night.
His last screams to Cindy as they drove off made me think that his arm was perhaps not broken as I had initially feared. He was in significant pain when he fell to ground though.



Maybe he hit his funny bone? hammer

[kitty1182]

Here comes Lee..Everybody run..

[Shellberry]

did lee just pull in?

[bluwaters]

Looks like Lee has arrived!

[rosejustrose]

Sherriff is there now. Guess to control the vigil.

That's a dang shame that the sherriff needs to be there. Aren't vigils supposed to be reflective and respectful?

BTW - Glad you made it through Ike. That was some pretty scary stuff down there.:rose:

[Pebbles]

Sorry but the sky at my house is darker than it is on the webcam and I live in central Florida.

[Shellberry]

LOL
ok, this is funny all of us watching and posting at the same times




imo/jmo

[bookie]

His arm had gotten stuck in the door of the car apparently.

There is a picture of it here.. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7430252&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1




She didn't want that baby, so she could go and party. Stay up late and drink beer. You're protecting her!" the unidentified woman screamed from across the street.


The mother didn't say that, the kid did. He even added "don't think I don't know what beer is" or something like that.

[Shellberry]

Sorry but the sky at my house is darker than it is on the webcam and I live in central Florida.

inside my house it looks dark, but I was just outside and am going out again, it isnt 'dark' here at all.
not yet, anyway
Im near tampa.



imo/jmo

[Kathlb]

The Sheriff must have told them they can't sit and block the sidewalk, but they can march and hold their signs.

[kakax]

At least some of them are getting exercise :rolleyes:

[AJandTam]

Hi Tam :seeya: ( I used to be lushus) :D

I think Cindy and George will be seperated/divorced by the time this mess is over ..


Omg Girl. LTNS. Very good to see you...

Were they already headed for divorce court prior to this?

[OneUp]

Good question. They are blocking the sidewalk. If I was a neighbor, I'd get those vigils booted off the sidewalk and into the Anthony's back yard. (And while they are there, they might dig around and look for Caylee.)

The Anthony's can't whine about protesters out front and then create their own version of the same thing, imvho.You have a point in that...I'd like to see the vigils in a more public setting. A nice park with a playground maybe. Just so more people could attend, and the neighbors could "have the night off". I would def. suggest BG's there, even though one can hope most people would behave at the vigil out of respect for Caylee...I know there would be some. Maybe their minister, etc. could quietly walk the crowd with some muscle along and ask rude folks to show respect for Caylee...not for anyone else, but until the vigil ended for that one tiny girl. Or offer up a statement to that effect beforehand.
JMO.

[rosejustrose]

LOL
ok, this is funny all of us watching and posting at the same times




imo/jmo


Gave me the giggles reading all the consecutive posts about Lee's arrival.:biggrin:

[flipflop]

At least some of them are getting exercise :rolleyes:


They will get tired soon.

[rosejustrose]

At least some of them are getting exercise :rolleyes:

Some of them look like they need it, IMO.

[kakax]

They will get tired soon.


My thoughts, exactly. They won't last long.

[farrahrani]

She didn't want that baby, so she could go and party. Stay up late and drink beer. You're protecting her!" the unidentified woman screamed from across the street.


The mother didn't say that, the kid did. He even added "don't think I don't know what beer is" or something like that.


Another sad point about it. The mom did say something to that effect at one point, and her son is merely parroting her. Teaching her son to stand in front of a stranger's house and yell baby killer, and simply repeat what she says. That is not teaching her son to stand up for what he believes in, that is teaching him to recite obscenities.
He's too young at that age to be scouting newspapers and message boards and make critical decisions based on scientific evidence about the case and come to his own conclusions about guilt or innocence, he is simply being used to get on television. I hope DCF truly does investigate this family, not to penalize them, but to counsel them on appropriate behavior for their child, and in front of their child. IMO

[MyrDawn]

I see some of them are starting to play to the camera...turning their signs towards that instead of the A's house. How silly! :D

[Velouria]

I'm not trying to disagree, however when LE have been called such as in the case of the lady with the St. Bernard dog, she was on the easement and they said she was on public property and didn't have to move. MOO


That woman with the dog was quiet and law abiding. If people are going to protest, I wish they'd follow her example and not that of the "lady" from last night.

Incidentally, does anyone know what the Rent-a-Cops were doing during all the commotion?

[frances1]

Nice looking bunch, huh? ugh.

Casey is pretty on the outside, though, but oh so ugly on the inside.

[Kathlb]

Usually they are set up for their vigil before this. I wonder if they aren't actually using their heads tonight and have called it off. jmho

[OneUp]

Well, except that Cindy wouldn't be able to reveal who they are. Because of the, um, dangerous, um, kidnappers and because they're, um, surrounded by people who are working outside the normal scope of things ... oh, and ... and they've all moved recently and she doesn't have their new numbers saved to her sim card, um, only to her phone that she, um, accidentally destroyed with her ham-mer, um, so anyway ... her new lawyer, Mark Nejames, has also, um, advised her not to reveal the names of the 3 searchers, um, because Orange County LE has, um, advised him to advise her to advise Nancy and Greta, that, um, those names can't be revealed at this time. :rolleyes:Good point! It's def. better to leave Caylee with those "watched" people a few more months than release info. to the public or actually...like ummmm retrieve her....
* sarcasm...just sarcasm because I gotta vent to*

[Velouria]

Well, except that Cindy wouldn't be able to reveal who they are. Because of the, um, dangerous, um, kidnappers and because they're, um, surrounded by people who are working outside the normal scope of things ... oh, and ... and they've all moved recently and she doesn't have their new numbers saved to her sim card, um, only to her phone that she, um, accidentally destroyed with her ham-mer, um, so anyway ... her new lawyer, Mark Nejames, has also, um, advised her not to reveal the names of the 3 searchers, um, because Orange County LE has, um, advised him to advise her to advise Nancy and Greta, that, um, those names can't be revealed at this time. :rolleyes:



.........:beer:

[AJandTam]

That woman with the dog was quiet and law abiding. If people are going to protest, I wish they'd follow her example and not that of the "lady" from last night.

Incidentally, does anyone know what the Rent-a-Cops were doing during all the commotion?

getting doughnuts......hammer I had to do it.

[hamebone]

Casey is pretty on the outside, though, but oh so ugly on the inside.



I read that alot ..she is pretty...I dont see it.

I think she is average.

But you are correct she is ugly on the inside..

[MyrDawn]

I am waiting for them to do the wave. Hideous attempt at marching.

"I don't know but I've been told. Casey Anthony is in that home. Our signs and out of shape bodies will make her talk. We ain't leaving this sidewalk."

:lol:
I wonder if any of them really think what they're doing will force Casey to tell where Caylee is. :rolleyes:

[rosejustrose]

Well, except that Cindy wouldn't be able to reveal who they are. Because of the, um, dangerous, um, kidnappers and because they're, um, surrounded by people who are working outside the normal scope of things ... oh, and ... and they've all moved recently and she doesn't have their new numbers saved to her sim card, um, only to her phone that she, um, accidentally destroyed with her ham-mer, um, so anyway ... her new lawyer, Mark Nejames, has also, um, advised her not to reveal the names of the 3 searchers, um, because Orange County LE has, um, advised him to advise her to advise Nancy and Greta, that, um, those names can't be revealed at this time. :rolleyes:

Honestly, I absolutely believe it.:rolleyes:

[OneUp]

Noticed that...<cough>...too...I wonder how many of them actually have jobs...(I mean most of them are there during week days too...)Hey Bitty! be nice...I'm here on and off every day too...:D. Of course, my job has long but very flexible hours and computer provided!

JMO.

[day2day]

That woman with the dog was quiet and law abiding. If people are going to protest, I wish they'd follow her example and not that of the "lady" from last night.

Incidentally, does anyone know what the Rent-a-Cops were doing during all the commotion?

I do too. But think about it Velouria-even the calm, cool dog lady had her signe taken and her dog dish thrown in the trash. We can't blame it all on the protestors. JMO...

:seeya:

[Pebbles]

Usually they are set up for their vigil before this. I wonder if they aren't actually using their heads tonight and have called it off. jmho


I don't think the webcam is correct. It is now dark in central Florida.

[FrankieBones1]

She didn't want that baby, so she could go and party. Stay up late and drink beer. You're protecting her!" the unidentified woman screamed from across the street.


The mother didn't say that, the kid did. He even added "don't think I don't know what beer is" or something like that.The whole video is disturbing. I felt bad for the toddler. He was crying even before halfway through the rants. The boy who was rolling on the ground, well, I don't feel sorry for him one bit. I think he was putting on a good act of being really injured. Maybe it was planned. How can those parents do that kind of protesting with kids around. And that one smoking her face off within a foot of the kids. Can we say, "White Trash"? I know it's nothing compared to what Casey has done or the rest of the family but these protesters aren't teaching their kids anything proper.

[Kathlb]

I don't think the webcam is correct. It is now dark in central Florida.

Duh... you're right. :D I am in FL and it's dark here. I've been staring at this screen too long. ROFL

[MyrDawn]

I do too. But think about it Velouria-even the calm, cool dog lady had her signe taken and her dog dish thrown in the trash. We can't blame it all on the protestors. JMO...

:seeya:

Nope, I blame Lee for that incident.
JMO

[luvinlife]

I truly wonder how many protestors there will be on a continuing basis is police say they have to be moving not sitting. I am assuming that is what he told them, right???

[day2day]

Nope, I blame Lee for that incident.
JMO

yep...he's lucky that was a st. bernard and not a pitbull. :chicken:

[cloe23]

right click and hit play video

Thanks you very much:D

[Snewpy]

For the coffee and donuts :D

and the brownies.. don't forget the brownies..

[Rayosunshine]

Gave me the giggles reading all the consecutive posts about Lee's arrival.:biggrin:

Me too.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[MyrDawn]

Duh... you're right. :D I am in FL and it's dark here. I've been staring at this screen too long. ROFL

I know the lights they shine on the A's house at night are bright, but not THAT bright! :D

[NatalieB]

I just watched the raw footage of the confrontation and while I'm not a fan of the Anthonys, I can't believe that those protesters would take this to that level. My God, they had 2 small children in tow. While I've read some say that Cindy comes from the same trailer park that these people did, Cindy wasn't there with children and it IS Cindy's home. I wish she'd just ignore them too, but those protesters are the scum of the Earth, IMO.

That little boy got hurt and the woman driving was so caught up in herself that she couldn't have told ANYONE what happened to that little boy, IMO. Perhaps that's a form of child abuse too? It is IMO.

Did you hear the way that little boy was yelling? If my kids EVER talked to anyone in that manner, I think I'd slap them across the face, then wash their mouth out with soap. Yeah, it's child abuse, but they are taught to respect others. Respect IMO, should be given to everyone. If a times comes where that respect was misplaced, well, that's another story, but IMO, it should be something that is extended to everyone automatically and pulled back only when it was misplaced. Of course, I don't think my children would EVER speak to anyone like that, so thankfully, it's not a bridge I expect to ever cross.

[Pebbles]

The webcam showing the protesters is not up to date.

It is dark here in central Florida.

[Velouria]

I do too. But think about it Velouria-even the calm, cool dog lady had her signe taken and her dog dish thrown in the trash. We can't blame it all on the protestors. JMO...

:seeya:

Oh ABSOLUTELY day2day. :) It's just that I can sympathize with the message of the protesters, but sure as heck wish they could come up with some better messengers, that's all. Neither side seems to be showing much class. And yes, I know that's an understatement.

Lee's behavior with the dog lady was uncalled for. And throwing away the dog's water...well, he was really showing his a$$ that day.
I'm glad the sign nearly kicked it.

[Kathlb]

I know the lights they shine on the A's house at night are bright, but not THAT bright! :D

LOL I know. I have a case of cam head. I need to actually look outside once in awhile. ;-)

[bchand]

That woman with the dog was quiet and law abiding. If people are going to protest, I wish they'd follow her example and not that of the "lady" from last night.

Incidentally, does anyone know what the Rent-a-Cops were doing during all the commotion?


I think Cindy waited until they left before she went prancing outside last night.

[flipflop]

I truly wonder how many protestors there will be on a continuing basis is police say they have to be moving not sitting. I am assuming that is what he told them, right???


They might break out the hoverounds. Do they count?

[kitty1182]

The webcam showing the protesters is not up to date.

It is dark here in central Florida.

Well, shucks, what have I been watching? :mad:

[rosejustrose]

I blame Casey for all these incidents. She's like the eye in this storm. And loving every minute of it imo.

Somebody at some point is going to get hurt.

MOO

Somebody has already been hurt, IMO. Caylee Marie Anthony. :rose:

[OneUp]

Hee hee...never going to happen.


Sorry OneUp. Not referring to you. I am just you know edgy from loss of power and water...many could be stay at home mom's too. That is good that you have a flexible job...mine is the rigid 8-5 m-f type. I am still waiting to find out if we have work tomorrow. Still don't know.LOL I'm not offended..I've got thick skin! Though the talk about the appearance ( especially the weight) and jobs, educational level, dental issues, etc. is making me a little uncomfortable. Plenty of fine people don't have full time jobs, aren't attractive, and are over weight, didn't have parents who could provide Casey's flashy white smile, etc....frankly I don't see what it has to do with the demonstrators any more than Casey is less disgusting because people think she's "pretty". You are what you are...appearances are surface only....real ugly goes to the bone.
My "Job" is raising my kids, and it's nice work if you can get it! Thus I can post when the big one is at school and the little one playing, in her highchair eating or sleeping. So I'm on here all different hours.
Like I said, you didn't bug me for reals Bitty! I'm glad you're safe from the storm though!:seeya:
All JMO.

[steffaroob4]

At least some of them are getting exercise :rolleyes:
Well, it is about time, protesters aren't supposed to sit there, they are supposed to walk, I remember having to do it for work when we were on strike. You couldn't loiter, you had to be moving. If you are gonna protest, you gotta move, lol.

[AJandTam]

Backatcha! :seeya:


I don't know, I just figure their marrage wont last through this,
especially if there was any trouble before .. :shrug:


I heard there was trouble. Ofcourse, it could have just been rumor. I've only been able to keep up w/this case here and there.

[Boxer]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1


In case this hasn't been answered, I'm just coming back after fixing dinner, and trying to catch up.
The child's mom and the man. She was going after Cindy. Cindy was being pulled back by a neighbor. When the guy was pulling the mom back, he hit the door which slammed on the kid.


looked like he did it kinda hard too. what a freak show.

[rosejustrose]

I agree with you ham, shes only average IMO. And her daughter looked more like Cindy than Casey. JMO. I bet as soon as they cut that umbilical cord, Casey felt the disconnect. I really beleive it was assumed all around that her responsibility ended when she gave birth.
After that, it was Cindys.

JMO
ok guys I have to go to bed, I am still sick and am really trying hard to get rid of this nastiness.

:seeya: nite!
Have fun and if anything exciting pops up, give me a ringy-dingy!!!

Good night! Rest peacefully and get well soon:rose:

[nutterbutter]

lol cam 2 has been stuck since the body guards were sitting in there fancy chairs here take a look:tongue:


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html
lol hey been in that postion for a couple days now.

[day2day]

Oh ABSOLUTELY day2day. :) It's just that I can sympathize with the message of the protesters, but sure as heck wish they could come up with some better messengers, that's all. Neither side seems to be showing much class. And yes, I know that's an understatement.

Lee's behavior with the dog lady was uncalled for. And throwing away the dog's water...well, he was really showing his a$$ that day.
I'm glad the sign nearly kicked it.

I just have a bad feeling we haven't seen the last of the fighting. I think someone will be hurt badly before its over. And in the meantime the press talks more about the protestors than they do about Caylee. And that p$sses me off. I also found Lee's fight with the sign was hilarious.

[kitty1182]

On the weekends they show re-runs. Like NG. :seeya:

LOL..LOL..:D
:seeya:

[why-me]

Hello everybody. Just got power back on. I could be so wrong about this but from the looks of some of the "protesters" and the way some are acting, I have the feeling someone is out looking for a lawsuit for getting hurt. A prime example of last night when the little boy seemingly got hurt, that was no ones fault but his mothers. They showed up there and started it. Not taking up for Cindy, just saying.

[marshmallow]

So do you think these are people attending the vigil, as opposed to protestors? If so, they are preempting the space.



After some thinking it over I think Dg was right. That there are/were pretend protesters out there for some reason but not truely protesting. just riding the adrenalin wave. The Boy says they're posers.

I also think there may be a few pretend vigil-goers in company tonight. I can't see anything good out of mixing these two groups together. Tempers are too high. I hope people use their good judgement and nothing ugly happens. That's not fair to Caylee. This is about Caylee.

[kitty1182]

IMO Casey is controlling the entire thing. She could stop it at any moment but doesn't want to. It's HER script and she's enjoying the he** out of it.

MOO

I bet she writes more pages each day..IMO

[Boxer]

Question: Why can't the protesters be seen on their own merits without comparing them to Casey? Apples and oranges. Casey has done something to Caylee...we can all speculate but we don't know. The protesters are disturbing the neighborhood...and I have yet to see one good thing coming out of what they are doing. No matter what they claim their intent is.


Yeah, I have to agree. Why don't those protesters do a prayer vigil. Shy give the Anthonys a reason to get pizzed off. Pizzed off they have been for a couple decades I'm thinking. Give em something to really see in a lot of people feeling for Caylee. The yelling doesn't do any good, the Anthonys have been yelling at each other for years now.

MOOOOOOO

[AJandTam]

I've been keeping up since the case broke .. :read:

Wish I could. Grrrrrr Real life's been bugging me ALOT. This case has been extremely eventful. Every case we say how bizzare it is and nothing can top it, then low and behold.

[steffaroob4]

Question: Why can't the protesters be seen on their own merits without comparing them to Casey? Apples and oranges. Casey has done something to Caylee...we can all speculate but we don't know. The protesters are disturbing the neighborhood...and I have yet to see one good thing coming out of what they are doing. No matter what they claim their intent is.


I have no issue with people marching quietly with signs, that is their right. The sitting and camping out in their front yard with awful signs is ridiculous. (tombstone was way out of line, IMO)

[rosejustrose]

I just have a bad feeling we haven't seen the last of the fighting. I think someone will be hurt badly before its over. And in the meantime the press talks more about the protestors than they do about Caylee. And that p$sses me off. I also found Lee's fight with the sign was hilarious.


ITA. Take the level of frustration and anger at Casey, the anxiety about where poor little Caylee is and throw in the heat, humidity and a full moon and you have a recipe for disaster. I wouln't be the least bit surprised if a more violent repeat of last night occurs again tonight. I only pray that Nejame called Cindy and told her to stay the heck in the house and ignore the hecklers. JMHO.

[martin]

kitty and rose - y'all are correct! i forgot cindy has THREE whole folks out looking. she doesn't need to! guess she's got to be home to watch the demonstrators??:confused:

[WillowInFlight]

LOL..LOL..:D
:seeya:

Just logging in, anything new?

[Velouria]

The yelling doesn't do any good, the Anthonys have been yelling at each other for years now.

MOOOOOOO

LOL Boxer!

[MichelleP]

Hello everybody. Just got power back on. I could be so wrong about this but from the looks of some of the "protesters" and the way some are acting, I have the feeling someone is out looking for a lawsuit for getting hurt. A prime example of last night when the little boy seemingly got hurt, that was no ones fault but his mothers. They showed up there and started it. Not taking up for Cindy, just saying.

There is such a thing called freedom of speech in this country. People say not to blame Cindy because it isn't her fault that Casey turned out like she did. The same applies to other people's kids too, doesn't it or no?

[sammielizabe]

if this was an accident....by KC, why would the GP's assist in covering it up? How could they not give their Granddaughter a proper memorial and burial? If it was intentional, how could they help a murderer, even though the murder was KC? Did KC think that someone kidnapped Caylee, when in reality it was the GP's who "took" her away from KC and then something went horribly wrong. I don't understand any of their behavior. It leads me to belive that they are all in on it. Can someone please help me to understand this. :shrug:

[rosejustrose]

Hello everybody. Just got power back on. I could be so wrong about this but from the looks of some of the "protesters" and the way some are acting, I have the feeling someone is out looking for a lawsuit for getting hurt. A prime example of last night when the little boy seemingly got hurt, that was no ones fault but his mothers. They showed up there and started it. Not taking up for Cindy, just saying.

Hi! Glad you have power. Seriously, who would they sue? The kid got hurt in his mother's vehicle by her body being pushed against the door, he fell in the street rolling around in "pain":rolleyes: Cindy never touched him, IMO. I'm no fan of Cindy's but she didn't touch that kid.

[steffaroob4]

Well, shucks, what have I been watching? :mad:

maybe they are running on a time delay, just incase something happens:shrug:

[lonetraveler]

Sorry to have made you upset..but we have been discussing what was in the news today which happen to be the protesters.


------------------------
I'm pretty sick of hearing about the protesters as well. I come to this board to discuss and read about a missing little girl, most likely dead, and her good for nothing mother and hopefully gain some information that possibly could break this case. The more attention given to the protesters, the less attention given to Caylee..................I've also had it. Bye all. fight on.

[why-me]

IMO Casey is controlling the entire thing. She could stop it at any moment but doesn't want to. It's HER script and she's enjoying the he** out of it.

MOO

Thing is, will they leave when she goes back to jail? They are desecrating Caylees memory. JMO

[cloe23]

:lol:
I wonder if any of them really think what they're doing will force Casey to tell where Caylee is. :rolleyes:

IMO everyone needs to rid of this anger, IMO what Caylee needs now is positive and loving energy.:rose:
I hope justice will soon be served and Caylee can be surrounded only by loving caring people and placed to rest. Not angry strangers.

IMO the protesters very well could drive Caseys into a deeper state of detachment/denial. I would like to see Casey sit in her own carp alone with intrusive thought reminders of what she has done. I wish the mob would leave the family alone and maybe then the family would let their guards down and make just one mistake.

[MichelleP]

Hi! Glad you have power. Seriously, who would they sue? The kid got hurt in his mother's vehicle by her body being pushed against the door, he fell in the street rolling around in "pain":rolleyes: Cindy never touched him, IMO. I'm no fan of Cindy's but she didn't touch that kid.

Who pushed her?

[trich]

I might catch some flack from what I am going to say but I have mixed emotions about "vigils".
I believe very strongly in the power of prayer I really do.
But in my heart of hearts I wonder if vigils are for show for the public to see and the media to report on.
to me prayer should be private or in church.
To me it is very personal and I do not need for people
to know what is in my heart ...because I think that is between me
and God.

I guess that is why
I can't help but question the reason for vigils.....


I am not saying they are wrong by no means but I do have mixed emotions about them.
those that do feel the need I would hope that the protesters would respect it.

[kakax]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, mother of missing Caylee Anthony, entered a plea on Sunday to 10 felony check fraud charges filed against her last week.

She has also turned down the right to have an arraignment on those charges.

Her lawyer Jose Baez filed a discovery motion, which means he wants to see what evidence the state plans to use in their prosecution of Casey Anthony.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17472147/detail.html

[marshmallow]

I am guessing trying to call LE's bluff for the real trial. And hoping for a few jurors to see reasonable doubt....double jeopardy and she walks on whatever she has done with Caylee. Then I guess she goes for a few years to the slammer...for the other charges. :shrug: She wants this family totally decimated for whatever reason.

If anyone is in orlando, is your web cam up and running or is it still a few hours...hour or so behind. It is still light in Houston but obviously dark in Orlando. Ugghhh...why can't the web cam be somewhat current? I mean at least a ten minute or so delay. They can always cut the feed if something really disturbing happens live.

I can guess at the jury selections.
Prosecution: mostly women
Defense: mostly men



I sense she's not used to people who don't get so tired of it that after a while they just give in. She's got her mother on on mother of a guilt trip judging from the jail tapes. Cindy's a momma cat who, misguided or not, is protecting her cub.

[rosejustrose]

Yeah, I have to agree. Why don't those protesters do a prayer vigil. Shy give the Anthonys a reason to get pizzed off. Pizzed off they have been for a couple decades I'm thinking. Give em something to really see in a lot of people feeling for Caylee. The yelling doesn't do any good, the Anthonys have been yelling at each other for years now.
MOOOOOOO

Ain't that the truth!!

BTW, I loved Eight Belles, what a beauty.

[Pebbles]

I am guessing trying to call LE's bluff for the real trial. And hoping for a few jurors to see reasonable doubt....double jeopardy and she walks on whatever she has done with Caylee. Then I guess she goes for a few years to the slammer...for the other charges. :shrug: She wants this family totally decimated for whatever reason.

If anyone is in orlando, is your web cam up and running or is it still a few hours...hour or so behind. It is still light in Houston but obviously dark in Orlando. Ugghhh...why can't the web cam be somewhat current? I mean at least a ten minute or so delay. They can always cut the feed if something really disturbing happens live.


It has been dark herer for over thirty minutes. The cam is not what is happening now, that's for sure.

[day2day]

ITA. Take the level of frustration and anger at Casey, the anxiety about where poor little Caylee is and throw in the heat, humidity and a full moon and you have a recipe for disaster. I wouln't be the least bit surprised if a more violent repeat of last night occurs again tonight. I only pray that Nejame called Cindy and told her to stay the heck in the house and ignore the hecklers. JMHO.

I am pretty sure he has begged her to keep her mouth shut. She doesn't listen. That is the problem. Like she said last night that when Casey went out partying SHE watched her. I have never heard that before. jmo

[ellvarn]

I'm watching the webcam and I don't see any protesters. Just a man sitting in a chair in their driveway, am I on the wrong webcam?
TYIA

[bluwaters]

I'm not trying to disagree, however when LE have been called such as in the case of the lady with the St. Bernard dog, she was on the easement and they said she was on public property and didn't have to move. MOO
Yes, I have forgotten that! You are right!

[Boxer]

if this was an accident....by KC, why would the GP's assist in covering it up? How could they not give their Granddaughter a proper memorial and burial? If it was intentional, how could they help a murderer, even though the murder was KC? Did KC think that someone kidnapped Caylee, when in reality it was the GP's who "took" her away from KC and then something went horribly wrong. I don't understand any of their behavior. It leads me to belive that they are all in on it. Can someone please help me to understand this. :shrug:


It's like an iceberg. The iceberg moves at a rate that we don't see with the naked eye. IMO, same applies with Casey. When she was small they may have spoiled the baby girl a bit. Let her get by with hissy fits or bad behavior. As she grew older the behavior got excused as someone else's fault. Other's may not have considered cute little Casey fits as cute as her parents did. Pretty soon, it's the path of least resistance. When she was a teen there was obviously some bad behavior as nobody gets a sealed juvie record for being a cheerleader. Then the pregnancy, which probably embarrased the parents a little. She didn't want the baby but people in denial stay in denial it seems for quite a while. Then the iceberg hits the big White Star Ship.....


these are just my opinions

[NatalieB]

if this was an accident....by KC, why would the GP's assist in covering it up? How could they not give their Granddaughter a proper memorial and burial? If it was intentional, how could they help a murderer, even though the murder was KC? Did KC think that someone kidnapped Caylee, when in reality it was the GP's who "took" her away from KC and then something went horribly wrong. I don't understand any of their behavior. It leads me to belive that they are all in on it. Can someone please help me to understand this. :shrug:

I doubt that Casey even told Baez what actually happened, so I doubt highly that she told her parents. They of course are educated people and I can only speculate that they don't want their daughter going to prison. I really don't think they had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance.

[farrahrani]

There is such a thing called freedom of speech in this country. People say not to blame Cindy because it isn't her fault that Casey turned out like she did. The same applies to other people's kids too, doesn't it or no?


IMO
I think the reason most people don't blame Cindy for Casey, is that we are dealing with a sociopath. Nobody knows how they are created, it could be a chemical imbalance, genetic, or something completely random. There is no way of telling. Yes Cindy has a lot of personality problems, but there are a lot of controlling, domineering, manipulative moms whose children turn out completely normal.

If we are referring to the little boy who was caught in the car door on the video, there is a slight difference. He was only repeating what he saw his family doing, and seemed to be coached. The same phrases coming from his mother's mouth came from him only seconds apart. At one point he couldn't keep up and simply yelled, "Yeah, what my mom said!"
This is so disturbing on so many levels. Evidence of a child being taught to blindly hate what he is too young to understand, and to be loud, aggressive, and vulgar in public. All caught on tape.

Aside from Cindy's current transgressions caught on tape, there is little actual physical evidence of anything she had done to create the person Casey is. We don't know what went on behind closed doors. We only know what we are now seeing in the media, like that tape that keeps getting linked. Sorry if I have offended anyone in advance.

[kakax]

Not guilty? For real?



Wonder how they will spin it at trial with videos of her buying things....

[why-me]

There is such a thing called freedom of speech in this country. People say not to blame Cindy because it isn't her fault that Casey turned out like she did. The same applies to other people's kids too, doesn't it or no?

Yes it does, however would you take your children in front of someones house with signs that say baby killer? I know I wouldn't simple because no child has ever been born with prejudice, it is learned, pure and simple. I think even as adults what they are doing is wrong but why why why teach your children hate? Unfortunately, they will learn it soon enough from others. Our responsibility as parents is to teach our children the right way. Certainly teaching to hate others for what ever reason is just wrong.

[snowflakes]

Shouldn't the bodyguards at least show their presence?:confused:

[st777jo]

I might catch some flack from what I am going to say but I have mixed emotions about "vigils".
I believe very strongly in the power of prayer I really do.
But in my heart of hearts I wonder if vigils are for show for the public to see and the media to report on.
to me prayer should be private or in church.
To me it is very personal and I do not need for people
to know what is in my heart ...because I think that is between me
and God.

I guess that is why
I can't help but question the reason for vigils.....


I am not saying they are wrong by no means but I do have mixed emotions about them.
those that do feel the need I would hope that the protesters would respect it.


I'll go along with that. The Anthony's know in their minds that Caylee is gone. To me, the vigils going on now are for sympathy. Nothing else. jmo

[steffaroob4]

I mostly agree with everything that you said. People have a right to protest. But they are jmo not considering the neighborhood at all...just their own outrage and need for attention...again...jmo...

Good post btw.


I would think that there could be some sort of rules, like a certain time and only for a few hours in a neighborhood, it sure isn't fair punishing the whole neighborhood. The thing that gets me is casey is letting her parents be tortured like this, how could she just sit there and do nothing, she is the only one that can end their pain.

[WillowInFlight]

I'm watching the webcam and I don't see any protesters. Just a man sitting in a chair in their driveway, am I on the wrong webcam?
TYIA

I see two men, pretty laid back.

[GrandmaGA]

Who pushed her?

See for yourself, watch the video

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html?refresh =1

[lonetraveler]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, mother of missing Caylee Anthony, entered a plea on Sunday to 10 felony check fraud charges filed against her last week.

She has also turned down the right to have an arraignment on those charges.

Her lawyer Jose Baez filed a discovery motion, which means he wants to see what evidence the state plans to use in their prosecution of Casey Anthony.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17472147/detail.html


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Question? does Jose Baez want to see the evidence the state plans to use in their prosecution of Casey Anthony for the check fraud charges? or is he planning ahead and wants to see evidence the state has for a homicide charge? Maybe I'm wrong, but how could he file a discovery motion for evidence covering a homicide if she hasn't been charged with homicide? Also, all of the 400 + documents released as well as videos the state have of Casey using Amy's checks at various places pretty much nails her for the check fraud cases doesn't it? I suspect that he is already preparing for the homicide charges and he is getting the cart before the horse.

[Joan Weiss]

Yes! Appalling. That child is another violent man in the making.
I would love to know if he was taken to ER last night.
His last screams to Cindy as they drove off made me think that his arm was perhaps not broken as I had initially feared. He was in significant pain when he fell to ground though.Please. You don't have any idea about that kid; what he will grow up to be.

The violent people I see are the Anthonys. imo

[Shellberry]

Gave me the giggles reading all the consecutive posts about Lee's arrival.:biggrin:

Noticed that...<cough>...too...I wonder how many of them actually have jobs...(I mean most of them are there during week days too...)

I don't think the webcam is correct. It is now dark in central Florida.

yes, it is definatley almost dark here, that pic on the cam looks too light for right now.
maybe it is a 30 min refresh at certain times of the day?

[MyrDawn]

Who pushed her?

Some young shirtless tattooed guy that looked like he was with her.

[NatalieB]

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Question? does Jose Baez want to see the evidence the state plans to use in their prosecution of Casey Anthony for the check fraud charges? or is he planning ahead and wants to see evidence the state has for a homicide charge? Maybe I'm wrong, but how could he file a discovery motion for evidence covering a homicide if she hasn't been charged with homicide? Also, all of the 400 + documents released as well as videos the state have of Casey using Amy's checks at various places pretty much nails her for the check fraud cases doesn't it? I suspect that he is already preparing for the homicide charges and he is getting the cart before the horse.

He can't. Discovery only applies to the evidence that's going to be put forth to prove what someone has been charged with.

[kakax]

Are these the charges that were to be filed this past week? If so why hasnt she went back to jail or am i way behind here?

She already bailed out of these charges as I understand it. There are supposedly some new financial charges to come down....we have been hearing about those for a week now.

[Joan Weiss]

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Question? does Jose Baez want to see the evidence the state plans to use in their prosecution of Casey Anthony for the check fraud charges? or is he planning ahead and wants to see evidence the state has for a homicide charge? Maybe I'm wrong, but how could he file a discovery motion for evidence covering a homicide if she hasn't been charged with homicide? Also, all of the 400 + documents released as well as videos the state have of Casey using Amy's checks at various places pretty much nails her for the check fraud cases doesn't it? I suspect that he is already preparing for the homicide charges and he is getting the cart before the horse.He is only entitled to the discovery on the current charges. imo

[WillowInFlight]

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Question? does Jose Baez want to see the evidence the state plans to use in their prosecution of Casey Anthony for the check fraud charges? or is he planning ahead and wants to see evidence the state has for a homicide charge? Maybe I'm wrong, but how could he file a discovery motion for evidence covering a homicide if she hasn't been charged with homicide? Also, all of the 400 + documents released as well as videos the state have of Casey using Amy's checks at various places pretty much nails her for the check fraud cases doesn't it? I suspect that he is already preparing for the homicide charges and he is getting the cart before the horse.
ITA, but then again I think he is way over his head. This case will not make a name for him.

[steffaroob4]

Who pushed her?

The skinny male.

[MichelleP]

IMO
I think the reason most people don't blame Cindy for Casey, is that we are dealing with a sociopath. Nobody knows how they are created, it could be a chemical imbalance, genetic, or something completely random. There is no way of telling. Yes Cindy has a lot of personality problems, but there are a lot of controlling, domineering, manipulative moms whose children turn out completely normal.

If we are referring to the little boy who was caught in the car door on the video, there is a slight difference. He was only repeating what he saw his family doing, and seemed to be coached. The same phrases coming from his mother's mouth came from him only seconds apart. At one point he couldn't keep up and simply yelled, "Yeah, what my mom said!"
This is so disturbing on so many levels. Evidence of a child being taught to blindly hate what he is too young to understand, and to be loud, aggressive, and vulgar in public. All caught on tape.

Aside from Cindy's current transgressions caught on tape, there is little actual physical evidence of anything she had done to create the person Casey is. We don't know what went on behind closed doors. We only know what we are now seeing in the media, like that tape that keeps getting linked. Sorry if I have offended anyone in advance.

My question was who pushed this lady? Is is illegal to speak your mind? You and I and others do it here.

Question answered if someone else pushed her than no I don't think Cindy would be responsible.

[NatalieB]

Wonder how they will spin it at trial with videos of her buying things....

Could they possibly be trying to pay everyone back with the hope that everyone will drop the charges?

[Boxer]

I agree with your opinions. My rendition of the story, however, would've been much more dramatic. :D

But seriously. I don't think it was all that benign. I think B.I.G. problems have been excused and covered up and glossed over for a least a decade.


I do too, I just didn't have examples to use to keep people from screaming LINK at me, lol, or telling me that decent people don't think the way I do. :D

[rosejustrose]

Who pushed her?

Some shirtless, tatooed dude that was with the woman. He pushed/pulled her towards her vehicle to break up the confrontation (verbal) with Cindy. In doing so, he inadvertantly caused her body mass to close the car door on the kid's arm. JMOO.

[bookie]

Hello everybody. Just got power back on. I could be so wrong about this but from the looks of some of the "protesters" and the way some are acting, I have the feeling someone is out looking for a lawsuit for getting hurt. A prime example of last night when the little boy seemingly got hurt, that was no ones fault but his mothers. They showed up there and started it. Not taking up for Cindy, just saying.



When the pathetic excuse for a mother went to leave she rolled down her window to yell some more. One of the things she said was that they were going right to the hospital and "they" would pay for it. I think you are spot on and I bet that person tries to sue Cindy for her own lack of protecting her child.

[kitty1182]

Just logging in, anything new?

Hi Willow...I learned from the video CA has 3 people looking for her GD...I learned the cam I'm watching may be a re-run..:lol:

[why-me]

Hi! Glad you have power. Seriously, who would they sue? The kid got hurt in his mother's vehicle by her body being pushed against the door, he fell in the street rolling around in "pain":rolleyes: Cindy never touched him, IMO. I'm no fan of Cindy's but she didn't touch that kid.

Thank you. I just meant people in general coming there to protest. Like the woman the other day who claimed Lee tried to run her down, and I for one would hate to see anyone else hurt in all this. The little girl that was hurt the most is what this is all about and these "protesters" are doing nothing but making spectacles out of themselves. Look how they are turning their signs toward the camera.

[dixie77]

if this was an accident....by KC, why would the GP's assist in covering it up? How could they not give their Granddaughter a proper memorial and burial? If it was intentional, how could they help a murderer, even though the murder was KC? Did KC think that someone kidnapped Caylee, when in reality it was the GP's who "took" her away from KC and then something went horribly wrong. I don't understand any of their behavior. It leads me to belive that they are all in on it. Can someone please help me to understand this. :shrug:
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This is just my opinion but here is my theory ......I think it was a neglient accident on Casey's watch. They all knew Casey would go to jail for it so they went into the cover-up mode because they knew that they had lost precious lil Caylee and didnt want to lose their daughter also. I dont think Casey intentionally killed Caylee. But in all honestly, i dont know why Casey doesnt shed a tear over her daughter. That totally baffles me. This is just my own opinion.

[steffaroob4]

I might catch some flack from what I am going to say but I have mixed emotions about "vigils".
I believe very strongly in the power of prayer I really do.
But in my heart of hearts I wonder if vigils are for show for the public to see and the media to report on.
to me prayer should be private or in church.
To me it is very personal and I do not need for people
to know what is in my heart ...because I think that is between me
and God.

I guess that is why
I can't help but question the reason for vigils.....


I am not saying they are wrong by no means but I do have mixed emotions about them.
those that do feel the need I would hope that the protesters would respect it.


I wonder why they don't hold them in the back yard myself. I am a very private person and could never be infront of a camera, I would have to hide in the back.

[CNTM]

My personal opinion here, I think the protesters should put down the signs and stand still in prayer with the people who are there for the vigil. It's all about Caylee, no matter what sign you are carrying!

[Velouria]

I might catch some flack from what I am going to say but I have mixed emotions about "vigils".
I believe very strongly in the power of prayer I really do.
But in my heart of hearts I wonder if vigils are for show for the public to see and the media to report on.
to me prayer should be private or in church.
To me it is very personal and I do not need for people
to know what is in my heart ...because I think that is between me
and God.

I guess that is why
I can't help but question the reason for vigils.....


I am not saying they are wrong by no means but I do have mixed emotions about them.
those that do feel the need I would hope that the protesters would respect it.


I agree wholeheartedly with your post, trich. :)

[MichelleP]

Some shirtless, tatooed dude that was with the woman. He pushed/pulled her towards her vehicle to break up the confrontation (verbal) with Cindy. In doing so, he inadvertantly caused her body mass to close the car door on the kid's arm. JMOO.

I don't think it's Cindy's fault then. Sorry I didn't see the video if there is one that is why I am asking.

[kakax]

Could they possibly be trying to pay everyone back with the hope that everyone will drop the charges?


IMO, not at this point.

[rosejustrose]

ummmmmmmm i am all for turning them in but how did message board people get there names?

Their license plate number was publicized with the video. LAOTB IIRC.

[Boxer]

My personal opinion here, I think the protesters should put down the signs and stand still in prayer with the people who are there for the vigil. It's all about Caylee, no matter what sign you are carrying!


where the heck is the clapping hands icon?

[MichelleP]

... and her signature all over the stuff. And the stuff in her possession. And Amy's checks or checkbook or both in her belongings left at Tony's.

:confused:

Imo she is going to loose that case.

[day2day]

Wonder how they will spin it at trial with videos of her buying things....

She will claim it wasn't her...it was Zanny the Nanny :punch:

[OneUp]

There is such a thing called freedom of speech in this country. People say not to blame Cindy because it isn't her fault that Casey turned out like she did. The same applies to other people's kids too, doesn't it or no?I think you definitely can't have it both ways and pick and choose which parents you hold liable for how their kids turn out...I've noticed some here who would like to though.
I do believe that ANY parent whose kid is a mess has culpability for how that child turns out, maybe what they did,,,maybe things they didn't do but should have. There are other factors that contribute of course, and once an adult...well your child just has to be held to task for their own behaviors. There is a choice and we do have free will.
In my family which was a right mess...we've all tried to do better with varying degrees of sucess.
My brother is a total loss ( criminal, addict...), I'd say I've done pretty well despite it all ( worked as an advocate and counselor, law abiding, good kids), and my sister is a nice person but does have some baggage still that affects her life now ( good to her kids, underachiever, not the most responsible).
Each of us from the same home and range across the spectrum for how well we fit into society.
IMO bad parenting makes it much less likely a child will turn out well adjusted. I had to WORK to become who I am now, and there were times it could have gone either way for me. I think some "good" parenting with professional support would have done my brother a world of good too. DEF. our childhoods impacted us, BUT at this time the biggest difference is how we reacted to the abuse/neglect. We have different personalities and made very different choices.
Victims of abuse usually either react against their upbringing ( seek therapy, vow to change, become nurturers and advocates) or give in to it ( become the abusers to escape the victim role, or become lifelong victims).
The "right" choices I made weren't easy, and I'm lucky for people in my life who supported and guided me outside of my family.
JMO.

[kitty1182]

http://www.wesh.com/news/17472147/detail.html

Not guilty.LOL
Thanks for the link!!!

[CNTM]

:beer: ITA! The protesters have made it all about them and forgotten all about Caylee!

I agree, they keep glancing to make sure the camera sees them.

[AlohaRainbow]

I am pretty sure he has begged her to keep her mouth shut. She doesn't listen. That is the problem. Like she said last night that when Casey went out partying SHE watched her. I have never heard that before. jmo
that's interestng... provoked into new revelations - i guess she'll claim she was "coerced" into saying it if it ever becomes an issue ;)

of course, she didn't mean that she watched caylee during those times casey partied at friends' houses and put caylee to sleep on the sofa... or those times during the infamous 30+ days/nights when she hadn't seen caylee, yet casey was partying hardy at fusions...

[FrankieBones1]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, mother of missing Caylee Anthony, entered a plea on Sunday to 10 felony check fraud charges filed against her last week.

She has also turned down the right to have an arraignment on those charges.

Her lawyer Jose Baez filed a discovery motion, which means he wants to see what evidence the state plans to use in their prosecution of Casey Anthony.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17472147/detail.html
Entered a plea on a Sunday? Don't the courts ever close in Florida?

[farrahrani]

My question was who pushed this lady? Is is illegal to speak your mind? You and I and others do it here.

Question answered if someone else pushed her than no I don't think Cindy would be responsible.

oooh sorry I misunderstood your post then :D oops.

No in the tussle, the family hit the door, not Cindy or her friends or anyone else. The mom and her--friend who kept pulling her back, whoever he was, they hit the door. Accident, yes, but not by Cindy's hand.

[Joan Weiss]

IMO
I think the reason most people don't blame Cindy for Casey, is that we are dealing with a sociopath. Nobody knows how they are created, it could be a chemical imbalance, genetic, or something completely random. There is no way of telling. Yes Cindy has a lot of personality problems, but there are a lot of controlling, domineering, manipulative moms whose children turn out completely normal.

If we are referring to the little boy who was caught in the car door on the video, there is a slight difference. He was only repeating what he saw his family doing, and seemed to be coached. The same phrases coming from his mother's mouth came from him only seconds apart. At one point he couldn't keep up and simply yelled, "Yeah, what my mom said!"
This is so disturbing on so many levels. Evidence of a child being taught to blindly hate what he is too young to understand, and to be loud, aggressive, and vulgar in public. All caught on tape.

Aside from Cindy's current transgressions caught on tape, there is little actual physical evidence of anything she had done to create the person Casey is. We don't know what went on behind closed doors. We only know what we are now seeing in the media, like that tape that keeps getting linked. Sorry if I have offended anyone in advance.What's wrong with teaching your kid that killing babies is wrong?

[kakax]

I wonder why they don't hold them in the back yard myself. I am a very private person and could never be infront of a camera, I would have to hide in the back.

The one and only time I went to a vigil was at a church. I have seen them held in parks and the like, but never at the "victim's" home. I think its odd.

[NatalieB]

IMO, not at this point.

Thanks

Could it be possible then that they entered a NG plea to get away from sentencing? How long would it be till sentencing if they pleaded guilty? At that time, they'd surely be able to keep her locked up.

[ellvarn]

yes try this


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

Thank you so much.

[Joan Weiss]

oooh sorry I misunderstood your post then :D oops.

No in the tussle, the family hit the door, not Cindy or her friends or anyone else. The mom and her--friend who kept pulling her back, whoever he was, they hit the door. Accident, yes, but not by Cindy's hand.Cindy had no business approaching that car. imo

[WHITECATS]

Does anyone know if they had the vigil tonight since we cant tell by the webcam?:shrug:

[kakax]

Entered a plea on a Sunday? Don't the courts ever close in Florida?



Crazy, huh? I was surprised to read that!

[st777jo]

Am I wrong? I don't understand why the vigils are still going on. I understood in the beginning. But not since the decomp, the dogs, the cholorform, etc. The answer is inside that house. jmo

[AJandTam]

So True ..

This case just blows me away ..

It does me too. In this one, I really don't know where they put that baby. I do think the mother did something to her.

[WillowInFlight]

Hi Willow...I learned from the video CA has 3 people looking for her GD...I learned the cam I'm watching may be a re-run..:lol:

OMG It is a full moon after all. LOL, Who are those men sitting behind the black car?

[Boxer]

I don't think it's Cindy's fault then. Sorry I didn't see the video if there is one that is why I am asking.


I give her 50%. The people were loading up to leave. Cindy left her property and approached the vehicle in anger yammering at the woman who was leaving. Why not let her leave and be done with it. But noooooo, Cindy had to be Cindy.

[kakax]

Finally...the webcam is up for real. My goodness. You can see the dark out there. Finally. Lots of action...AIEE>>>



I think there is still a delay. It is completely dark at my house. I may be a little east of them, but not that much!

[trich]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, mother of missing Caylee Anthony, entered a plea on Sunday to 10 felony check fraud charges filed against her last week.


Well heck they didn't say what her plea was....
Did she plead guilty or not guilty.

I can not honestly believe she could have pleaded not guilty.
Considering they have her video cashing those checks etc.

[bchand]

where the heck is the clapping hands icon?

I don't know if there WILL be a vigil tonight. The past few weeks, they've put up a white tent for the vigil. Looks like no one is in the driveway now at all. I just see the protesters.

[Boxer]

Gee, that's odd. I never have anyone asking me for a link or telling me I'm not a decent thinker.

Must be due to my rather robust Ignore list. :)

Bragger....I only have 2.:cool:

[kakax]

OMG It is a full moon after all. LOL, Who are those men sitting behind the black car?


http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

I think you are on the wrong cam, my friend. That one has been stuck for two days lol!!!

[NatalieB]

She will claim it wasn't her...it was Zanny the Nanny :punch:

Hey, maybe you're on to something here. Casey could be suffering from a multi personality disorder. Thus, she's Zanny the Nanny at times. :lol:

[OneUp]

It's like an iceberg. The iceberg moves at a rate that we don't see with the naked eye. IMO, same applies with Casey. When she was small they may have spoiled the baby girl a bit. Let her get by with hissy fits or bad behavior. As she grew older the behavior got excused as someone else's fault. Other's may not have considered cute little Casey fits as cute as her parents did. Pretty soon, it's the path of least resistance. When she was a teen there was obviously some bad behavior as nobody gets a sealed juvie record for being a cheerleader. Then the pregnancy, which probably embarrased the parents a little. She didn't want the baby but people in denial stay in denial it seems for quite a while. Then the iceberg hits the big White Star Ship.....


these are just my opinionsSounds right to me Boxer!
JMO.

[kitty1182]

OMG It is a full moon after all. LOL, Who are those men sitting behind the black car?

I think it's live now..Check out this cam..

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[kakax]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, mother of missing Caylee Anthony, entered a plea on Sunday to 10 felony check fraud charges filed against her last week.


Well heck they didn't say what her plea was....
Did she plead guilty or not guilty.

I can not honestly believe she could have pleaded not guilty.
Considering they have her video cashing those checks etc.


The headline of the article was that she pled not guilty....

Casey Anthony Enters Not Guilty Plea On 10 Check Fraud Charges

[day2day]

that's interestng... provoked into new revelations - i guess she'll claim she was "coerced" into saying it if it ever becomes an issue ;)

of course, she didn't mean that she watched caylee during those times casey partied at friends' houses and put caylee to sleep on the sofa... or those times during the infamous 30+ days/nights when she hadn't seen caylee, yet casey was partying hardy at fusions...

That is one reason i feel Cindy should stay in the house. She has made so many inconsistent statements that it makes me dizzy. Casey never mentioned that Cindy watched Caylee. Just one of those things that makes ya go ...hmmm

jmo

[txsage]

What's wrong with teaching your kid that killing babies is wrong?

THAT is not what the mom is teaching her son. She is teaching him it's okay to be disrespectful, hateful and downright MEAN!
IMO

[rosejustrose]

I agree with your opinions. My rendition of the story, however, would've been much more dramatic. :D

But seriously. I don't think it was all that benign. I think B.I.G. problems have been excused and covered up and glossed over for a least a decade.

ITA. Folks don't file for divorce on a whim. Things were wrong in the Anthony household that we most likely will never know, IMO.

[bookie]

I give her 50%. The people were loading up to leave. Cindy left her property and approached the vehicle in anger yammering at the woman who was leaving. Why not let her leave and be done with it. But noooooo, Cindy had to be Cindy.


It works both ways. When Cindy was ignoring the woman why didn't she leave? Instead she kept on and on. If she had left it wouldn't have escalated. And why bring her small child with her to scream profanities at a complete stranger who has committed no crimes?

[OneUp]

ITA, but then again I think he is way over his head. This case will not make a name for him.Oh I disagree Willow! I think it will make his name, but not in the way he envisioned...
JMO.

[kakax]

What's wrong with teaching your kid that killing babies is wrong?



I think it's wrong to let a child know that there are people out there that kill their children. No way I would tell my 6 year old son that a Mama had killed her child. JMO....it isn't something they need to know at that age.

[WillowInFlight]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

I think you are on the wrong cam, my friend. That one has been stuck for two days lol!!!

Great day and here I thought they had livers of steal. Thank you, and thank you for calling me friend. (do I sound like NG)? LOL

[PrimeSuspect210]

My personal opinion here, I think the protesters should put down the signs and stand still in prayer with the people who are there for the vigil. It's all about Caylee, no matter what sign you are carrying!
I don't know you and you don't know me, but you've made the most intelligent post, IMO, that I've read on this board in days.

Thank you.

[bchand]

That is one reason i feel Cindy should stay in the house. She has made so many inconsistent statements that it makes me dizzy. Casey never mentioned that Cindy watched Caylee. Just one of those things that makes ya go ...hmmm

jmo



Well you know day2day, maybe Cindy heard Tony, Clint and the other roommate say that Casey said Caylee was with Cindy - so she figures she was.

Casey can really snow them.

[hamebone]

It's like an iceberg. The iceberg moves at a rate that we don't see with the naked eye. IMO, same applies with Casey. When she was small they may have spoiled the baby girl a bit. Let her get by with hissy fits or bad behavior. As she grew older the behavior got excused as someone else's fault. Other's may not have considered cute little Casey fits as cute as her parents did. Pretty soon, it's the path of least resistance. When she was a teen there was obviously some bad behavior as nobody gets a sealed juvie record for being a cheerleader. Then the pregnancy, which probably embarrased the parents a little. She didn't want the baby but people in denial stay in denial it seems for quite a while. Then the iceberg hits the big White Star Ship.....


these are just my opinions


ITA, I have known a parent just like that. The kid could do no wrong...this was years ago and now as a young adult he is a freak..doesnt no how to adapt to those around him or society.

[kakax]

Great day and here I thought they had livers of steal. Thank you, and thank you for calling me friend. (do I sound like NG)? LOL


No you don't sound like NG....after awhile it feels like a lot of us are friends on here!!

[OneUp]

When the pathetic excuse for a mother went to leave she rolled down her window to yell some more. One of the things she said was that they were going right to the hospital and "they" would pay for it. I think you are spot on and I bet that person tries to sue Cindy for her own lack of protecting her child.Then we all know she will waste her own time and money and lose. I doubt she can get an attorney to even want to take her case...no fame in that case!
JMO.

[WillowInFlight]

Oh I disagree Willow! I think it will make his name, but not in the way he envisioned...
JMO.

You have a point.!!

[Boxer]

It works both ways. When Cindy was ignoring the woman why didn't she leave? Instead she kept on and on. If she had left it wouldn't have escalated. And why bring her small child with her to scream profanities at a complete stranger who has committed no crimes?
Why didn't Cindy keep ignoring them as they left? Cause she's big bad Cindy. She probably thought they would continue to drive away, but she was wrong. It takes two to argue, fight, or hug.

[FoxySly]

No protests are not silly, there pathetic and for LOSERS.

Had it not been for protesters black people would still be sitting in the back of the bus, women would not have the vote ect...

IMO it's pathetic to type that "there pathetic and for LOSERS"

I don't agree with the protesters in the anthony case but I sure as heck don't agree with your uneducated post.

Blessed be to ALL who have protested for correctness, rightful rights, for what is truly good!!!

I also think if the protesters in this case would go away the anthony's could direct their anger where it should be casey!

Sly

[day2day]

Well you know day2day, maybe Cindy heard Tony, Clint and the other roommate say that Casey said Caylee was with Cindy - so she figures she was.

Casey can really snow them.

You might be right. That Casey sure can spin one...or 100.

jmo

[kakax]

I've been out of power all day. Just got it back on. Could some kind:) poster please tell me if there has been any new news?

A quick wrap up...

Casey pled not guilty to the ten charges that were filed the other day, today.

Last night, Cindy and a protester had a pretty ugly confrontation...

Vigil, right now, we think.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[Velouria]

And let's not forget that Casey wasn't actually partying. Rather, she was simply stopping by the club to make sure everyone was having a good time. Per George.


LOL
Yes SayWHAT...And don't forget - they all called her "Mom".

[~jomomma~]

dang! what the heck is going on in that driveway?

[deep*fear]

Yes it does, however would you take your children in front of someones house with signs that say baby killer? I know I wouldn't simple because no child has ever been born with prejudice, it is learned, pure and simple. I think even as adults what they are doing is wrong but why why why teach your children hate? Unfortunately, they will learn it soon enough from others. Our responsibility as parents is to teach our children the right way. Certainly teaching to hate others for what ever reason is just wrong.

I would rather my children learn it's NOT ok to be a baby killer.
Baby killers should be condemned.

[rosejustrose]

I agree, they keep glancing to make sure the camera sees them.


It's dark there now.

[cloe23]

In the same note, I would like to see how the defence will put a spin on all the videos of protesters that drove his client into a false confession. I really wish the protesters would go to Casey's old apt and have their vigils. Where I live, my town has a noise ordinance from this time at night until this time in the morning. I do not recall what the actual hours are. I take it 'freedom of speech' in the Anthony neighborhood has no cap on it?
Glad I do not live there as moving is so much work.
:rolleyes:

[Pebbles]

Am I wrong? I don't understand why the vigils are still going on. I understood in the beginning. But not since the decomp, the dogs, the cholorform, etc. The answer is inside that house. jmo


The way the Anthonys go about having a vigil for Caylee is what angers me. Why do they do it in front of their house, in front of the cameras and protesters. A vigil should be quiet and a time for prayers, not a media event!!


I agree with what I have been reading about the protesters, I do not support the signs, yelling or little children being dragged into something they should not have to witness at their young age. I do agree with peaceful demonstrating though, and people should have a right to do that.



Regarding the protesters having a vigil for Caylee, I also agree that is a better way to show the nation that you care about what has happened to Caylee, but do it away from the cameras and the Anthonys home. Have a quiet vigil for Caylee, let her know that she is not forgoten!

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[MyrDawn]

dang! what the heck is going on in that driveway?

The regular Sunday night vigil.
JMO

[VC2]

Hi Flmom, your said: I was totally wrong on this one, re: the video.

I don't think you were wrong, or need to apologize. There were 3 video's out there before the extended one. Thats what we all went on, the first 3. And I agree with your posts.

All protesters, no matter where or what, LEAVE YOUR CHILDREN HOME!!!!

Cindy, could you please tell everyone why did you come out at midnight to hammer when you knew, you knew, there were people outside your house?

Maybe there was an argument with casey or george and she felt the need for some air?

She has the right to go out in her undies and do a rain dance in her yard if she wants.

Like her or not, its her yard, her house and the idea that she should stay inside bc of a bunch ignorant bozos screaming obscenities is wrong. She has not been charged with anything and she is not out on bail.
The protestors are sooo in the wrong here, i don't mean the ones who are peaceful but the screamers and ones like the woman last night.

If cindy wants to hammer in signs at midnight or 3 am then its her right to do so and imo more of a right than the protesters have bc there are laws against harassment.

[trich]

I think it's wrong to let a child know that there are people out there that kill their children. No way I would tell my 6 year old son that a Mama had killed her child. JMO....it isn't something they need to know at that age.


I don't like that idea either but children hear and see more then you know.
You can't turn on the tv or radio or even have a newspaper where things like that are not addressed.
Not to mention over hearing adults talking.
Believe me they hear lots more then you might think.
It really does no good to ignore the issue but rather to explain
that there are people out there that are sick and do bad things....but that there are more people that do good things.

Avoiding issues is not good.... dealing with them is better.


Saying that I find it wrong to take children to protests like what is happening at the Anthonys.

[day2day]

Quote:
Originally Posted by CNTM
My personal opinion here, I think the protesters should put down the signs and stand still in prayer with the people who are there for the vigil. It's all about Caylee, no matter what sign you are carrying!


Beautiful post CNTM. :rose:

[AJandTam]

It works both ways. When Cindy was ignoring the woman why didn't she leave? Instead she kept on and on. If she had left it wouldn't have escalated. And why bring her small child with her to scream profanities at a complete stranger who has committed no crimes?

I completely agree w/you. I don't think it is wise to teach your child to go hunt people in the news down and start trouble w/them at thier houses. What punishment comes of this case is up to LE then the court system. We can't all run around playing god and fighting cause we think the other person had it coming.

[~jomomma~]

ha! ya think Casey is out attending this vigil for her daughter? :rolleyes:

[lonetraveler]

And let's not forget that Casey wasn't actually partying. Rather, she was simply stopping by the club to make sure everyone was having a good time. Per George.


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Lets also not forget that Casey was investigating the kidnapping of her little girl and searched Fusion (Night club) because Zanny the Nanny hung out there. For some unknow reason, no one at Fusion knows the Nanny who hung out there...................................Maybe she was invisible???????????????????????:confused:

[why-me]

The kid wasn't hurt. His mother never even looked at his arm. Never gave it a glance. I think this mother just gave us a preview of where the upcoming criminals are bred from.

I think you are so right.

[rosejustrose]

The one and only time I went to a vigil was at a church. I have seen them held in parks and the like, but never at the "victim's" home. I think its odd.


Everything about this case is odd, IMO.

[MyrDawn]

The way the Anthonys go about having a vigil for Caylee is what angers me. Why do they do it in front of their house, in front of the cameras and protesters. A vigil should be quiet and a time for prayers, not a media event!!


I agree with what I have been reading about the protesters, I do not support the signs, yelling or little children being dragged into something they should not have to witness at their young age. I do agree with peaceful demonstrating though, and people should have a right to do that.



Regarding the protesters having a vigil for Caylee, I also agree that is a better way to show the nation that you care about what has happened to Caylee, but do it away from the cameras and the Anthonys home. Have a quiet vigil for Caylee, let her know that she is not forgoten!

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IMO, they do it that way so it's completely open so any of the public that wants to come and pray for Caylee is free to do so.

[snowflakes]

I presume that Casey is all alone in the house with the bodyguards while the vigil/protest is going on?

[deep*fear]

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Question? does Jose Baez want to see the evidence the state plans to use in their prosecution of Casey Anthony for the check fraud charges? or is he planning ahead and wants to see evidence the state has for a homicide charge? Maybe I'm wrong, but how could he file a discovery motion for evidence covering a homicide if she hasn't been charged with homicide? Also, all of the 400 + documents released as well as videos the state have of Casey using Amy's checks at various places pretty much nails her for the check fraud cases doesn't it? I suspect that he is already preparing for the homicide charges and he is getting the cart before the horse.

I guess it's worth a try. Maybe he's hoping they accidentally give him more than he has a right to.

[nutterbutter]

I could be wrong, but it looked to me like the protesters joined the vigil.

Am I seeing things, or could that really be what's happening/happened?
I was wondering the same thing.mo

[n/t]

Those women in that video should be ashamed of themselves. Cursing in front of two young children. It was appalling and totally unacceptable. Someone should send CPS to their home, imo. Who carries around two young children late at night to protest in front of a home?

Disgusting.

[AMS]

ha! ya think Casey is out attending this vigil for her daughter? :rolleyes:


Someone should check and see if she is logged into her Myspace account while the vigil is going on. I don't have the Myspace address.

[rosejustrose]

Am I wrong? I don't understand why the vigils are still going on. I understood in the beginning. But not since the decomp, the dogs, the cholorform, etc. The answer is inside that house. jmo
:beer: Too bad there are no clapping hands!

[fierce1]

It works both ways. When Cindy was ignoring the woman why didn't she leave? Instead she kept on and on. If she had left it wouldn't have escalated. And why bring her small child with her to scream profanities at a complete stranger who has committed no crimes?

I agree. They both bear some responsibility in the incident. A child should not be subjected to that volatile environment. In the long video, they showed the boy screaming at Cindy, too. That is completely inappropriate.

I am sure the boy learned it from his mama. It's very sad.

[kakax]

ok this might be a dumb question so get ready..............it is Sunday right? How do you plead not guilty or even guilty on a Sunday when the court isnt even open or do they have court on Sundays where Casey is from:shrug:



I have no clue!!

[TxLady2]

It works both ways. When Cindy was ignoring the woman why didn't she leave? Instead she kept on and on. If she had left it wouldn't have escalated. And why bring her small child with her to scream profanities at a complete stranger who has committed no crimes?

ITA! The woman was probably hoping Cindy would storm out and confront her. Some of these protestors won't stop until there is real bloodshed. I'm not a violent person... but I'll be damned if I would stand there and let some vicious broad call me names either!

[Boxer]

ok this might be a dumb question so get ready..............it is Sunday right? How do you plead not guilty or even guilty on a Sunday when the court isnt even open or do they have court on Sundays where Casey is from:shrug:


well, Baez does like to fax stuff;)

[FrankieBones1]

Am I wrong? I don't understand why the vigils are still going on. I understood in the beginning. But not since the decomp, the dogs, the cholorform, etc. The answer is inside that house. jmo

No amount of prayer can bring a long dead child back to life. This isn't the Monkey's Paw. I think it just gives the Anthony's an excuse to stand out front and pretend....

There sure are a lot of people there right now. I'm seeing mostly protesters. Wonder if those trashy women came back back with their young boys.

[rosejustrose]

Hey, maybe you're on to something here. Casey could be suffering from a multi personality disorder. Thus, she's Zanny the Nanny at times. :lol:

I think Zanny the Nanny is Xanax, not a person. I wonder if they do find Caylee's remains if there would be any way to determine long term druggings. JMHO.

[Boxer]

ITA! The woman was probably hoping Cindy would storm out and confront her. Some of these protestors won't stop until there is real bloodshed. I'm not a violent person... but I'll be damned if I would stand there and let some vicious broad call me names either!

That's why I said 50%:shrug:

[MyrDawn]

ok this might be a dumb question so get ready..............it is Sunday right? How do you plead not guilty or even guilty on a Sunday when the court isnt even open or do they have court on Sundays where Casey is from:shrug:

I don't know about Orlando, but here there's a judge on call on the weekends, and will come to court sometimes for a hearing if requested to do so.

[frances1]

ok this might be a dumb question so get ready..............it is Sunday right? How do you plead not guilty or even guilty on a Sunday when the court isnt even open or do they have court on Sundays where Casey is from:shrug:


I wondered that, too.

[rosejustrose]

And let's not forget that Casey wasn't actually partying. Rather, she was simply stopping by the club to make sure everyone was having a good time. Per George.

What a sec! I thought she was frequenting these clubs during her covert mission to find Caylee on her own, thinking she would run into Zanny. :rolleyes:

[OneUp]

I think it's wrong to let a child know that there are people out there that kill their children. No way I would tell my 6 year old son that a Mama had killed her child. JMO....it isn't something they need to know at that age.I definitely wouldn't recommend bringing it up, but sometimes it has to be dealt with. Think of the kids who knew Caylee for example. I've had children much younger than 6 in my care who actually witnessed "mom" or "dad" killing a baby or child. This is a hard world...leave your kids as innocent as is safe for as long as you can...but someday they too will have to face the very subjects on this Message board.
NOW, that said, in this case at hand, I don't think it was "brought u" to that little guy...I imagine he learned by watching and listening.:(
Poor kid! I''m sure Joan's son is a well behaved boy and was brought up not to speak to his elders that way...I can't see Joanie letting him get away with it! But she has a point about teaching our children our values, even sometimes the hard lessons...sometimes values other parent may disagree with.
JMO.

[n/t]

ITA! The woman was probably hoping Cindy would storm out and confront her. Some of these protestors won't stop until there is real bloodshed. I'm not a violent person... but I'll be damned if I would stand there and let some vicious broad call me names either!

With young children!! Too bad the cops got there too late. They should've arrested them for child abuse.

That poor baby crying and the little kid screaming baby killer. Those kids should've been in bed!!!

[bookie]

ITA! The woman was probably hoping Cindy would storm out and confront her. Some of these protestors won't stop until there is real bloodshed. I'm not a violent person... but I'll be damned if I would stand there and let some vicious broad call me names either!


I don't get the attitudes that Cindy should not be out in her front yard or should meekly ignore what is said to her. She hasn't been charged with any crimes and has the same rights that those protestors have.

[hamebone]

ITA! The woman was probably hoping Cindy would storm out and confront her. Some of these protestors won't stop until there is real bloodshed. I'm not a violent person... but I'll be damned if I would stand there and let some vicious broad call me names either!


I agree, and another thing to note...Casey is Cindy's daughter...it has to sting to hear her called baby killer....even tho' I agree she is one...

If they do find the babies remains...they better get her to a safe house 'cause I think all hail will break out in that neighborhood.

[steffaroob4]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony, mother of missing Caylee Anthony, entered a plea on Sunday to 10 felony check fraud charges filed against her last week.


Well heck they didn't say what her plea was....
Did she plead guilty or not guilty.

I can not honestly believe she could have pleaded not guilty.
Considering they have her video cashing those checks etc.

It was in the title of the article, I hate when they do that. When will she go to court for the check charges?

[FrankieBones1]

Those women in that video should be ashamed of themselves. Cursing in front of two young children. It was appalling and totally unacceptable. Someone should send CPS to their home, imo. Who carries around two young children late at night to protest in front of a home?

Disgusting.

The boy seemed to know far too much about the case. I wouldn't be surprised if he forgoes homework to watch Nancy Grace each night.

I'm glad the cam caught the license plate.

[nutterbutter]

ITA! The woman was probably hoping Cindy would storm out and confront her. Some of these protestors won't stop until there is real bloodshed. I'm not a violent person... but I'll be damned if I would stand there and let some vicious broad call me names either!
Cindy,George and Lee wont quit until there is someone hurt.It can go both ways,.moo