Caylee Anthony 09-14-08 A.M thread

[nutterbutter]

good morning all.New thread for a new day and new hope that Caylee will be found.
:rose:

[kakax]

good morning all.New thread for a new day and new hope that Caylee will be found.
:rose:

Good morning! You might want to put this link on the late night, early morning thread as well.

[nutterbutter]

Good morning! You might want to put this link on the late night, early morning thread as well.
I just did but seems there is another one some where although I checked and didnt see it.:shrug:

[MyrDawn]

Thanks, NutterButter!
Good morning, everyone! :seeya:

[MyrDawn]

What happened to web cam 2? Mine has been frozen on the same scene since yesterday morning. 2 bodyguards sitting in lawn chairs in the driveway. :shrug: TIA

Mine is too. I think web cam one is more recent, but it's frozen too.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

[Armchairdet]

Good morning.


I couldn't sleep and so I was listening to the interviews. What kind of mother wouldn't break down when a detective mentions finding your child buried somewhere or in a dumpster? Casey is one very sick young woman imo.


:rose: Caylee

[nutterbutter]

Mine is too. I think web cam one is more recent, but it's frozen too.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html
both links I have a frozen also.The lawn rangers still in same position for more than 24 hours now.Wow they must be tired.:seeya:

[callmetree]

good morning all.New thread for a new day and new hope that Caylee will be found.
:rose:

:seeya: good morning all. let's all hope this is a good day!

[Mint_Julep]

Let's hope today's the day that LE hauls Casey's a$$ back into jail ..

Good day .. :seeya:

I agree. I wish there was SOME way they could revoke her bond and make her stay there although short of murder charges, I don't think they can. :(

[nana6]

Goodmorninig Where are u guys? Is this the right thread now?

[Mint_Julep]

Goodmorninig Where are u guys? Is this the right thread now?

Mornin' Nana. I believe this is the correct thread. If it's not, we're both lost. :confused:

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to begin.

:rose:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

[nutterbutter]

Mornin' Nana. I believe this is the correct thread. If it's not, we're both lost. :confused:
good morning.You are on the correct thread.

[marshmallow]

I just finished reading the other thread and I wonder if Casey (or her mother) didn't look up Hopkins in the phone book and pick the wrong one. I wonder what her purpose was in calling. Did Cindy make her call to call her bluff on that particular lie? it is a possiblity

[steffaroob4]

I wish someone would ask Casey, why if she was unemployed, did she need a nanny? :shrug:

It's be quite interesting to hear her response .. :cool:

I know, why didn't LE ask her that question in the taped interviews, it is so strange. Why would she need to drop her off that time of the day with a time between 11 and 1? It makes no sense without an answer to why she was watching her.

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning everyone.

[bluwaters]

Unless they toss her in the slammer for the cheque fraud ..
She will be able to bond out of anything other than murder, I believe.

[MyrDawn]

I've heard that in Florida, a first-degree murder charge can only be decided on by a Grand Jury. Does anyone know if that's true?

[Mint_Julep]

Unless they toss her in the slammer for the cheque fraud ..

Isn't that a bondable charge in FL and mean she could get right back out?

I wish the GP would tell her she was no longer welcome in their home and leave her in solitary. Being home has not been any help so what could it hurt?

MJ

[steffaroob4]

I know ..
That's what I keep wondering ..

I suppose when the case goes to trial, the question will be asked .. :shrug:
I would have liked them to ask how she paid the nanny and how much she made an hour, too. Did the nanny have a car seat? Was the nanny cpr trained? So many questions.

[SavannahStar]

I would have liked them to ask how she paid the nanny and how much she made an hour, too. Did the nanny have a car seat? Was the nanny cpr trained? So many questions.


They already knew she was lying about the nanny. The knew she was lying about the entire story. How would specific questions about the nanny have helped in any way? I think they did an excellent job, given the type of person they were dealing with. I'm sure they themselves are looking back and thinking of other questions that could have been asked. But bottom line is, what good would it have done? Doesn't seem like asking if the nanny was cpr trained, for instance, would move Casey to confess. :shrug:

[steffaroob4]

They already knew she was lying about the nanny. The knew she was lying about the entire story. How would specific questions about the nanny have helped in any way? I think they did an excellent job, given the type of person they were dealing with. I'm sure they themselves are looking back and thinking of other questions that could have been asked. But bottom line is, what good would it have done? Doesn't seem like asking if the nanny was cpr trained, for instance, would move Casey to confess. :shrug:

I think they did a good job, but I really think they should have asked why she was taking her to the nanny once she admited she didn't have a job. I would have like to hear a series of nanny questions, because the defense will try to say LE never even considered the fact that there might be a nanny. Plus, I am just nosey and would want to hear those answers, lol.

[ellegna]

Good morning everyone :seeya:

[AMS]

Doesn't Casey have permission to go to church today? Think she'll go?

[steffaroob4]

Cindy Anthony Clashes With Protesters (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html)

[bluwaters]

They already knew she was lying about the nanny. The knew she was lying about the entire story. How would specific questions about the nanny have helped in any way? I think they did an excellent job, given the type of person they were dealing with. I'm sure they themselves are looking back and thinking of other questions that could have been asked. But bottom line is, what good would it have done? Doesn't seem like asking if the nanny was cpr trained, for instance, would move Casey to confess. :shrug:

Very good point Savanah. They knew the nanny was a lie and they knew that Casey was able to ad lib without hesitation.

I also think that they did an excellent job.

[concernedmom]

Cindy Anthony Clashes With Protesters (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html)


Why was Cindy putting the signs back up when she had the BG there?
These people need to leave their kids out of it before one gets hurt bad.

[Kathlb]

Good morning all,
Here is the link to the story about the altercation. Now explain to me why Cindy was out around midnight hammering again when protesters were there? She is totally losing her control to go to bed and stay inside.
jmho

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

[KatieKates]

I think they did a good job, but I really think they should have asked why she was taking her to the nanny once she admited she didn't have a job. I would have like to hear a series of nanny questions, because the defense will try to say LE never even considered the fact that there might be a nanny. Plus, I am just nosey and would want to hear those answers, lol.

ITA. They should have kept going with it. She seemed a little tripped up when he asked why she thought Caylee didn't seem upset after not speaking with her for 5 weeks and instead they talked about the book she was reading, which is also telling that Casey reverted back to the book we've all seen the little girl reading at the table. Last memory Casey has of her, maybe?

They should have grilled her about not working and finance issues regarding the "nanny." Did Cindy pay for the Nanny? I mean, this could be explained away with the stolen money, but she chose to steal a credit card and some checks. Easily traceable, except for the cash she obtained from her own Grandmother's account. (How were you paying the Nanny? Cash, check, etc. If it's cash they can check the ATM for withdrawls, if it's by check they can go through her bank statements. She'll have an answer for all of it, I'm sure...:rolleyes:

Very bizarre. JMO

ETA: Are there camera's in Blanchard Park? (sp?)

[AMS]

Good morning all,
Here is the link to the story about the altercation. Now explain to me why Cindy was out around midnight hammering again when protesters were there? She is totally losing her control to go to bed and stay inside.
jmho

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html


I agree with you. There is nothing to be gained by going outside at midnight to hammer in signs...other than trouble. If they were loud or trespassing then call the cops. We know the Anthony's know how to do that. BUT....she just can't stay away IMO.

[Joan Weiss]

Why was Cindy putting the signs back up when she had the BG there?
These people need to leave their kids out of it before one gets hurt bad.Good morning. I think the bodyguards are a joke. They seem to be there so that Cindy can cause fights with muscle backup. imo

[marshmallow]

Good morning all,
Here is the link to the story about the altercation. Now explain to me why Cindy was out around midnight hammering again when protesters were there? She is totally losing her control to go to bed and stay inside.
jmho

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html



sometimes I think she plays the "don't talk to me" "hey why aren't you talking to me" act.

I'm not a fan of the protesters, mainly because I find them to be unfair to the people trying to live around the Anthony's house, but she goes out of her way to start trouble. Maybe she was mad that no one heckled her when she was weeding. It's one thing to be an unwilling target, it's another to put on a bullseye t-shirt and go out swinging. She's a willing target and in my eyes that's as bad as the protesters actions.

[Rebel Rouzer]

Yo yo yo Homies wutzup? :lol: I can't talk or type like that without cracking up laughing.

Morning everyone. Any breaking news on the case since I went to bed lastnight/this morning?

Hope one of the legal peeps reads my question from latnight and can explain the answer to me.

steffaroob. I understand what you mean but i think the police detectives would have gotten more lies about why she dropped off Caylee with a nanny since she admitted to lying abotu the job. She was still telling her story like she had a job even after that was made clear. It didn't matter what they asked her. she was going to stick to the story she had already conjured up in her head and nothing was going to change that. IMO

Coffee I need coffee :chicken:

[KatieKates]

Yo yo yo Homies wutzup? :lol: I can't talk or type like that without cracking up laughing.

Morning everyone. Any breaking news on the case since I went to bed lastnight/this morning?

Hope one of the legal peeps reads my question from latnight and can explain the answer to me.

steffaroob. I understand what you mean but i think the police detectives would have gotten more lies about why she dropped off Caylee with a nanny since she admitted to lying abotu the job. She was still telling her story like she had a job even after that was made clear. It didn't matter what they asked her. she was going to stick to the story she had already conjured up in her head and nothing was going to change that. IMO

Coffee I need coffee :chicken:

I agree, they were probably frustrated by that point, but it's best to keep her talking. Let her dig her own hole. FWIW, JMO.

[Joan Weiss]

Good morning everyone. Good morning, Reggie. I just noticed that Casey was arrested after her interview with LE at Universal. Do you think the defense will try to get that interview thrown out, and will they be successful?

The arrest affidavit:

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f07.24.08_affi davit.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

[MyrDawn]

Cindy Anthony Clashes With Protesters (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html)

Awwww, from that link:
"The child of one of the protesters appeared to be hurt when his arm got caught in a car door by his mother as they went to leave."

The article also says "The protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing, while Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier."

Screaming and cursing? Sounds like those protesters purposely wanted to get Cindy irate. But, why do they continue to take their little kids there? And, so late at night! So they can curse in front of them? :cuss:

[steffaroob4]

[QUOTE=Flmom;12116333]Did she have her hammer or did she pull a snippedQUOTE]

I wonder where the security guards were at...:chicken:

[KatieKates]

Awwww, from that link:
"The child of one of the protesters appeared to be hurt when his arm got caught in a car door by his mother as they went to leave."

The article also says "The protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing, while Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier."

Screaming and cursing? Sounds like those protesters purposely wanted to get Cindy irate. But, why do they continue to take their little kids there? So they can curse in front of them? :cuss:

To teach them how to fight for what they believe in, or the first amendment, or....:rolleyes:

[Joan Weiss]

Good morning everyone.

Awwww, from that link:
"The child of one of the protesters appeared to be hurt when his arm got caught in a car door by his mother as they went to leave."

The article also says "The protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing, while Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier."

Screaming and cursing? Sounds like those protesters purposely wanted to get Cindy irate. But, why do they continue to take their little kids there? So they can curse in front of them? :cuss:Imo, they bring their kids because they are intending a peaceful protest. It's the Anthonys who make it a dangerous situation. jmo

[Joan Weiss]

[QUOTE=Flmom;12116333]Did she have her hammer or did she pull a snippedQUOTE]

I wonder where the security guards were at...:chicken:Sleeping on the chairs. ;)

jmo

[trich]

Good morning. I think the bodyguards are a joke. They seem to be there so that Cindy can cause fights with muscle backup. imo




I agree....
Why the heck doesn't Cindy just keep her mouth shut.
I have said it before and will say it again.....
She certainly is not taking the high road.
I bet the lawyer they hired for public relations is cringing when
he sees and hears this kind of stuff.
Surely he has told the family to ignore the protesters and not to get into shouting matches with the them.

[concernedmom]

[QUOTE=steffaroob4;12116357]Sleeping on the chairs. ;)

jmo

:lol:

:seeya:GM Joan.

[Joan Weiss]

I agree....
Why the heck doesn't Cindy just keep her mouth shut.
I have said it before and will say it again.....
She certainly is not taking the high road.
I bet the lawyer they hired for public relations is cringing when
he sees and hears this kind of stuff.
Surely he has told the family to ignore the protesters and not to get into shouting matches with the them.You would think so. WTH is she doing out there at midnight? :confused:
It's pretty clear where the problem is...imo

[SavannahStar]

Awwww, from that link:
"The child of one of the protesters appeared to be hurt when his arm got caught in a car door by his mother as they went to leave."

The article also says "The protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing, while Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier."

Screaming and cursing? Sounds like those protesters purposely wanted to get Cindy irate. But, why do they continue to take their little kids there? And, so late at night! So they can curse in front of them? :cuss:


:beer: Unbelievable. And Cindy's getting the blame. Geeeeeeez. Of COURSE the protestors are trying to get Cindy irate!!!!!

[Joan Weiss]

[QUOTE=Joan Weiss;12116363]

:lol:

:seeya:GM Joan.I calls 'em like I sees 'em...:biggrin:

Morning...

[Joan Weiss]

:beer: Unbelievable. And Cindy's getting the blame. Geeeeeeez. Of COURSE the protestors are trying to get Cindy irate!!!!!Come on, SS. I sure wouldn't go out there with that scene. imo

[MyrDawn]

Imo, they bring their kids because they are intending a peaceful protest. It's the Anthonys who make it a dangerous situation. jmo

The A's? That article said the protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing. Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier.

So, please explain how it was Cindy's fault? How did she make them scream and curse? That's not protesting peacefully at all.
JMO

[KatieKates]

The A's? That article said the protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing. Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier.

So, please explain how it was Cindy's fault? How did she make them scream and curse? That's not protesting peacefully at all.
JMO

I wouldn't bother MyrDawn. If the flooding in Florida and Texas could be blamed on someone it would be Cindy Anthony at this point. :seeya:

[MyrDawn]

Come on, SS. I sure wouldn't go out there with that scene. imo

It sounds like Cindy was there first. Did you read the article at the link?

[Kathlb]

I agree....
Why the heck doesn't Cindy just keep her mouth shut.
I have said it before and will say it again.....
She certainly is not taking the high road.
I bet the lawyer they hired for public relations is cringing when
he sees and hears this kind of stuff.
Surely he has told the family to ignore the protesters and not to get into shouting matches with the them.


I watched until around 11 and went to bed because it was quiet. Protesters were coming and going quietly, standing for awhile and leaving, guards were sitting just watching them, nothing out of line. The media had shut their lights off...etc. Supposedly then Cindy just "decides out of the blue" to go outside around midnight and pound in signs in front of the ones who were still there. That is just begging them to say something in my book. She can't take the quiet and needs the drama. For a long time earlier in the day she was out working on flower beds and no one said a word. So she had to do something to get her face in the news. JMHO I predict the new lawyer is going to walk if she keeps this up.

[MyrDawn]

I wouldn't bother MyrDawn. If the flooding in Florida and Texas could be blamed on someone it would be Cindy Anthony at this point. :seeya:

:lol:
You're so right!

[SavannahStar]

I dont see Cindy as the innocent that you do.


Sorry if you misunderstand my posts, but I don't see her as totally innocent in every way. But unlike some, I don't see her as a complete monster either. I have this trait of being able to see both the good as well as the bad in most people. There are few, very few, in this world of ours who are 100% good or 100% bad.

[Joan Weiss]

ITA. They should have kept going with it. She seemed a little tripped up when he asked why she thought Caylee didn't seem upset after not speaking with her for 5 weeks and instead they talked about the book she was reading, which is also telling that Casey reverted back to the book we've all seen the little girl reading at the table. Last memory Casey has of her, maybe?

They should have grilled her about not working and finance issues regarding the "nanny." Did Cindy pay for the Nanny? I mean, this could be explained away with the stolen money, but she chose to steal a credit card and some checks. Easily traceable, except for the cash she obtained from her own Grandmother's account. (How were you paying the Nanny? Cash, check, etc. If it's cash they can check the ATM for withdrawls, if it's by check they can go through her bank statements. She'll have an answer for all of it, I'm sure...:rolleyes:

Very bizarre. JMO

ETA: Are there camera's in Blanchard Park? (sp?)Good point about the nanny pay. Maybe that came later in the investigation? At this point, they were honestly just trying to find Caylee.

Cameras in Blanchard Park? I hope not. Ewww... Big Brother is watching you...:chicken:

imo

[KatieKates]

Cindy should have stayed inside and called the police..but no..out she went as usual.

Yes, don't leave your house ever, or you're responsible for the consequences. Makes sense to me. :rolleyes:

This is America, right? Remember those rights you're all in favor for protecting? I guess that gets extended to everyone but Cindy Anthony. That's awesome.

[SavannahStar]

I wouldn't bother MyrDawn. If the flooding in Florida and Texas could be blamed on someone it would be Cindy Anthony at this point. :seeya:


:lol: Now that IS the truth.

[morson]

They already knew she was lying about the nanny. The knew she was lying about the entire story. How would specific questions about the nanny have helped in any way? I think they did an excellent job, given the type of person they were dealing with. I'm sure they themselves are looking back and thinking of other questions that could have been asked. But bottom line is, what good would it have done? Doesn't seem like asking if the nanny was cpr trained, for instance, would move Casey to confess. :shrug:

I agree, more questions about the nanny would not have been very productive, since everything she said was a lie anyway. Do you think that "visions of waterboarding" danced in these detectives heads? Their patience and restraint is admirable.

My question is, at trial, how will information about the nanny be entered into evidence anyway? The prosecution will have statements of the LE's and Casey's own statements, but will also have the evidence that the nanny does not exist. No other witnesses will have any substantial info of the nanny. Obviously, Baez cannot put Casey on the stand (now, that would be a circus). Maybe I am not getting it, but I do not see where more info about the nanny is of any importance, other than to demonstrate the extent of her lies.

I do have another question--has Baez repeated his earlier statement that there is a "compelling reason" why Casey did not report her daughter missing for 31 days? (I am still trying to think of what this compelling reason could possibly be.)

[day2day]

Good morning all,
Here is the link to the story about the altercation. Now explain to me why Cindy was out around midnight hammering again when protesters were there? She is totally losing her control to go to bed and stay inside.
jmho

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

Mornin all..
It is an everyday thing with the Anthony's. IMO they love the spotlight. She had NO business out there at that time of night unless she was lookin for a fight.
Note to the Anthony's:
The monster you are searching for is RIGHT under your roof. Maybe if you were as angry with her as you are at the protestors, this whole nightmare would be over. JMO

[msgatorslayer]

Good morning all,
Here is the link to the story about the altercation. Now explain to me why Cindy was out around midnight hammering again when protesters were there? She is totally losing her control to go to bed and stay inside.
jmho

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

G'Morning all. Is this all I missed? I was MIA lastnight. It was our Anniversary and Mr.Gator surprised me with a dinner show.

I guess its her only outlet to spew. She's been muzzled from talking to the media so, this is it. :rolleyes:

[Kathlb]

Cindy has guards outside..no reason to be hammering signs..she knows what she is doing. The signs are an excuse to get out among the protesters so she can throw a few F bombs. If that wasnt so..why not let the bodyguards nail signs?

Right. And why pound signs at midnight in front of protesters anyway?? Why not go to bed and wait until morning when there is no one there? Because then it wouldn't have made the news. jmho

[spiritwolf46]

Cindy should have stayed inside and called the police..but no..out she went as usual.


Exactly! PHOTO OP!

[MyrDawn]

I watched until around 11 and went to bed because it was quiet. Protesters were coming and going quietly, standing for awhile and leaving, guards were sitting just watching them, nothing out of line. The media had shut their lights off...etc. Supposedly then Cindy just "decides out of the blue" to go outside around midnight and pound in signs in front of the ones who were still there. That is just begging them to say something in my book. She can't take the quiet and needs the drama. For a long time earlier in the day she was out working on flower beds and no one said a word. So she had to do something to get her face in the news. JMHO I predict the new lawyer is going to walk if she keeps this up.

Let's see if I have this right...Cindy doesn't have a right to go to her front yard, but the protesters do. So, no matter who did what, if a scuffle happens it's Cindy's fault by the mere fact she's in her own yard. Is that it?

[KatieKates]

Good point about the nanny pay. Maybe that came later in the investigation? At this point, they were honestly just trying to find Caylee.

Cameras in Blanchard Park? I hope not. Ewww... Big Brother is watching you...:chicken:

imo

If nothing else it would debunk the Casey story of ZG taking Caylee. This girl lies a lot and maintains this stance, I'll give her that, but her lies are so easily checked out, she's not the sharpest tool in the shed, imo. Clearly something is very wrong with this girl.

JMO

[SavannahStar]

Mornin all..
It is an everyday thing with the Anthony's. IMO they love the spotlight. She had NO business out there at that time of night unless she was lookin for a fight.
Note to the Anthony's:
The monster you are searching for is RIGHT under your roof. Maybe if you were as angry with her as you are at the protestors, this whole nightmare would be over. JMO


You can turn right around and say the same about the protestors. It's an everyday thing with the protestors. IMO they love the spotlight. They have NO business in front of the Antonys' house at that time of night unless they are lookin for a fight.

[KatieKates]

Please dont twist my words. I NEVER said a darn thing about never leaving the house...I said it was crazy to be outside with the protesters hammering signs..she wants to be among it or else she would have had a body guard do it.

And my point is she's allowed on her property, it doesn't matter what she's doing. Hammering signs or sunbathing. Doesn't matter. And I twist nothing. :shrug:

[marshmallow]

I wouldn't bother MyrDawn. If the flooding in Florida and Texas could be blamed on someone it would be Cindy Anthony at this point. :seeya:

that's unfair.

[SavannahStar]

Let's see if I have this right...Cindy doesn't have a right to go to her front yard, but the protesters do. So, no matter who did what, if a scuffle happens it's Cindy's fault by the mere fact she's in her own yard. Is that it?


I think that's what some believe, yes. Which is totally incredible to me.

[impartial]

Good morning, Reggie. I just noticed that Casey was arrested after her interview with LE at Universal. Do you think the defense will try to get that interview thrown out, and will they be successful?

The arrest affidavit:

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f07.24.08_affi davit.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935



There is a good chance it will be thrown out. Any custodial interrogation, even prior to arrest, requires the advisement of the right to an attorney.

When LE confronts the person with evidence ... ie we know you lied about so and so, we checked your story, etc .. that is considered an interrogation. So, it will hinge on whether it was custodial. The interrogation doesn't have to be at LE's offices to be custodial. If it is a detainment, it is custodial. So, the question will be was Casey free to get up and walk out of the room?

IMO

[day2day]

G'Morning all. Is this all I missed? I was MIA lastnight. It was our Anniversary and Mr.Gator surprised me with a dinner show.

I guess its her only outlet to spew. She's been muzzled from talking to the media so, this is it. :rolleyes:

Well Happy Belated Anniversary my friend..and wtg Mr. Gator!! Did you watch the video...Cindy KNOWS when to step her arse back when that big ole gal gets outta her car...:lol:!! Where were the big ole bodyguards? Pssttt..Cindy did say she had three people lookin for Caylee. Obviously it isn't George, Cindy or Lee...jmo

[Joan Weiss]

The A's? That article said the protesters appeared to come onto the Anthonys' property, screaming and cursing. Cindy was trying to post "No Trespassing" signs that had been torn down earlier.

So, please explain how it was Cindy's fault? How did she make them scream and curse? That's not protesting peacefully at all.
JMOThey're on public property, from what I can see. I had a neighbor who took a dislike to me because of an illegal situation he created. He's been haunting me for almost a year, screaming, cursing and hoisting the finger. I called the cops and they told me he can scream, yell, gesture and curse as much as he likes. There's nothing I can do about it unless he tries to harm me. Welcome to the real world. imo

[steffaroob4]

wow, the video is SHOCKING (http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters)

[day2day]

And my point is she's allowed on her property, it doesn't matter what she's doing. Hammering signs or sunbathing. Doesn't matter. And I twist nothing. :shrug:

Watch the video. Cindy LEAVES her property and goes to the womans car.

[Kathlb]

Let's see if I have this right...Cindy doesn't have a right to go to her front yard, but the protesters do. So, no matter who did what, if a scuffle happens it's Cindy's fault by the mere fact she's in her own yard. Is that it?


In my mind, there is some common sense lacking here on Cindy's part. Of course she has the right to go out at midnight or 2 am to pound signs, but just a bit of common sense might tell her that if you go out at midnight amid some protesters, it "might" start something, when she could have waited to do it in the morning when no one was there. I feel she knows exactly what she is doing and that is to rile them up and cause these confrontations for the cameras. Otherwise she would wait until morning. I would have and I think a lot of others would too, rather than start something that late at night. JMHO

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning, Reggie. I just noticed that Casey was arrested after her interview with LE at Universal. Do you think the defense will try to get that interview thrown out, and will they be successful?

The arrest affidavit:

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f07.24.08_affi davit.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935


Oh yes, I can see the motion now citing the detectives coerced the answers out of poor little casey, trapping her in that conference room at Univeral. <gag>

cynthia anthony is nuts, charging over to that woman and swearing at her, then the woman comes out of that car and gets right in her face. Notice tha georgie didn't try to push that woman around.....george ain't stupid. IMO.

[MyrDawn]

Sorry if you misunderstand my posts, but I don't see her as totally innocent in every way. But unlike some, I don't see her as a complete monster either. I have this trait of being able to see both the good as well as the bad in most people. There are few, very few, in this world of ours who are 100% good or 100% bad.

Post of the day!
:beer:

[spiritwolf46]

I think she likes the fight myself. I'd be scared to go out with a so called mob at my front lawn screaming...yet she prances on out. Unreal.

Yep! AT midnight for signs??? This is the same family who was afraid for their lives because Casey said they all should be? This is the same family who has body guards? Yet, at midnight, she HAS to hammer signs, because GOD forbid one of those should fall down!

Not buying it. Totally agree with you. She loves the fight and she loves the camera.

[msgatorslayer]

I watched until around 11 and went to bed because it was quiet. Protesters were coming and going quietly, standing for awhile and leaving, guards were sitting just watching them, nothing out of line. The media had shut their lights off...etc. Supposedly then Cindy just "decides out of the blue" to go outside around midnight and pound in signs in front of the ones who were still there. That is just begging them to say something in my book. She can't take the quiet and needs the drama. For a long time earlier in the day she was out working on flower beds and no one said a word. So she had to do something to get her face in the news. JMHO I predict the new lawyer is going to walk if she keeps this up.

Flower beds? I think she needs to go back to work. JMO

She's not out grinding the pavement with flyers nor forming searches. As the Grandparent of a missing child, she's not doing anything productive to find her.

She's going mad staying at that house!!!!

[Destini]

What good are the body guards really? Seems to me they could have handled this without calling LE.

Were the protesters screaming & hollering before Cindy came outside? If not, why in the world did she go out there?

More drama brought on by the Anthonys IMO

[Regina.Lampert]

There is a good chance it will be thrown out. Any custodial interrogation, even prior to arrest, requires the advisement of the right to an attorney.

When LE confronts the person with evidence ... ie we know you lied about so and so, we checked your story, etc .. that is considered an interrogation. So, it will hinge on whether it was custodial. The interrogation doesn't have to be at LE's offices to be custodial. If it is a detainment, it is custodial. So, the question will be was Casey free to get up and walk out of the room?

IMO


....and if the police advise the person the door isn't locked and they can leave, what then?

[day2day]

Yep! AT midnight for signs??? This is the same family who was afraid for their lives because Casey said they all should be? This is the same family who has body guards? Yet, at midnight, she HAS to hammer signs, because GOD forbid one of those should fall down!

Not buying it. Totally agree with you. She loves the fight and she loves the camera.

And she has the same pretty mouth as Casey. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. IMO. It doesn't matter how great a lawyer they hire as long as Cindy keeps acting like this..people are going to think badly of her.
I say-anger management classes for the whole bunch..but thats just me!

[MyrDawn]

You can turn right around and say the same about the protestors. It's an everyday thing with the protestors. IMO they love the spotlight. They have NO business in front of the Antonys' house at that time of night unless they are lookin for a fight.

Especially with their children!

[KatieKates]

Watch the video. Cindy LEAVES her property and goes to the womans car.

I did. Rather than tend to the little boy rolling in the street holding his arm, she lights a cigarette and goes to yell at Cindy who is now on the sidewalk in front of her house. Again, awesome. :rolleyes:

[steffaroob4]

Watch the video. Cindy LEAVES her property and goes to the womans car.


she is in the street, that is for sure:eek:

[KatieKates]

And the protesters are allowed on the sidewalk.

I never said they weren't. :shrug:

[ccat]

Cindy has a right to go anywhere she chooses..if she wants to confront the protesters so be it..more power to her..I wouldnt if I were her..its going to lead to someone getting hurt. She needs to stay inside and call the police.

I've heard theories that possibly Casey and Melinda Duckett placed their babies where alligators could get them. I am wondering what you all think.
Women usually use poison, ie., a quiet means of killing. So how would a "violent" burial accompany that means of death.

Yet she seems so confident in her stance, indicating to me that she knows Caylee will never be found.

What do you all think?

[spiritwolf46]

Watch the video. Cindy LEAVES her property and goes to the womans car.


Yes, she did. Did you hear the very end of the video where Cindy says she has THREE people looking for Caylee when the woman said she was doing nothing? WTH????

:rose: Poor Caylee.

[ellegna]

Good morning all,
Here is the link to the story about the altercation. Now explain to me why Cindy was out around midnight hammering again when protesters were there? She is totally losing her control to go to bed and stay inside.
jmho

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

I agree...makes no sense
Coming out to replace the signs/tape was not a smart move on Cindy's part.

I appreciate the Anthony's do not want people trespassing but the yellow tape is a bit much. It doesn't deter anyone, attracts too much attention and encourages people to rip it down. No Trespassing signs should be sufficient.
The protesters should also respect the property and stay off.
I'm sure the BGs would have kept people off the property with or without yellow tape & signs

[msgatorslayer]

wow, the video is SHOCKING (http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters)

:eek:She's getting sensitive to the 'Baby Killer' comments. To bad the "Baby Killer' isn't affected by it.

[Joan Weiss]

There is a good chance it will be thrown out. Any custodial interrogation, even prior to arrest, requires the advisement of the right to an attorney.

When LE confronts the person with evidence ... ie we know you lied about so and so, we checked your story, etc .. that is considered an interrogation. So, it will hinge on whether it was custodial. The interrogation doesn't have to be at LE's offices to be custodial. If it is a detainment, it is custodial. So, the question will be was Casey free to get up and walk out of the room?

IMOYes, I believe she was, and I believe they told her the door was closed only for privacy. She reminds me of another perp I know who was told he was free to go after being advised of the allegations against him. He insisted on staying, and wrote out an account of the crime, after which he was arrested. These people think they can bee ess the cops and convince them of the logic of the situation. It's always someone else's fault, can't the cops see that? :rolleyes:

I think she was free to go, and in fact didn't have to lead them on that wild goose chase from the get-go. imo

[impartial]

....and if the police advise the person the door isn't locked and they can leave, what then?


The arrest affidavit indicated they advised her that the door was unlocked ... nothing about her being able to leave.

I don't recall on the tapes whether they advised her she can leave.
Did they?

[day2day]

I did. Rather than tend to the little boy rolling in the street holding his arm, she lights a cigarette and goes to yell at Cindy who is now on the sidewalk in front of her house. Again, awesome. :rolleyes:

IMO the children should be left at home. This isn't their fight. But none of this would have happened if Cindy woulda kept her butt in HER yard. She rushed the car. I would have jumped out also if she would have charged me like that. And i am a pretty calm person. jmo

[spiritwolf46]

And she has the same pretty mouth as Casey. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. IMO. It doesn't matter how great a lawyer they hire as long as Cindy keeps acting like this..people are going to think badly of her.
I say-anger management classes for the whole bunch..but thats just me!


Anger management and a LOT of shrink hours. ;)

[nutterbutter]

wow, the video is SHOCKING (http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters)
wow,looks to me like Cindy was off her property and yes looking for trouble.mo

[KatieKates]

I've heard theories that possibly Casey and Melinda Duckett placed their babies where alligators could get them. I am wondering what you all think.
Women usually use poison, ie., a quiet means of killing. So how would a "violent" burial accompany that means of death.

Yet she seems so confident in her stance, indicating to me that she knows Caylee will never be found.

What do you all think?

Yeesh to the alligator thing, but I agree that she seems quite confident that Caylee will never be found and that's why she's Van Der Slooting her way through this thing. Thank god you can take someone to trial in America on circumstantial evidence. And in this case, if nothing else, there is plenty. JMO

[day2day]

Yes, she did. Did you hear the very end of the video where Cindy says she has THREE people looking for Caylee when the woman said she was doing nothing? WTH????

:rose: Poor Caylee.

Yea i did. Sad part is-none of them are the Anthony's. They have all showed us their violent tendencies. They all scare me. jmo

[steffaroob4]

:eek:She's getting sensitive to the 'Baby Killer' comments. To bad the "Baby Killer' isn't affected by it.


very true, I had a lot of sympathy for Cindy, until the Tim Miller incident. That has changed my opinion of her, along with a lot of other things that I was giving her the benifit of the doubt about.

[MyrDawn]

They're on public property, from what I can see. I had a neighbor who took a dislike to me because of an illegal situation he created. He's been haunting me for almost a year, screaming, cursing and hoisting the finger. I called the cops and they told me he can scream, yell, gesture and curse as much as he likes. There's nothing I can do about it unless he tries to harm me. Welcome to the real world. imo

That's true here, except for the cursing part. That's still frowned up in pubic here. In fact, there's a city ordinance against cursing in public. But, it's just a legal for you to scream back at him, isn't it?

[day2day]

wow,looks to me like Cindy was off her property and yes looking for trouble.mo

WTH are they payin the "bodyguards" for..is the $10,000.00 question!

[SavannahStar]

Cindy has a right to go anywhere she chooses..if she wants to confront the protesters so be it..more power to her..I wouldnt if I were her..its going to lead to someone getting hurt. She needs to stay inside and call the police.


I couldn't swear to this, and I'm too lazy to do a search right now, but it seems like in the past week or so there were MANY posts complaining that the Anthonys should not be calling the police as often as they do. So now this is a turnaround, right? Now people are saying they should be calling the police. :confused:

[ccat]

Yeesh to the alligator thing, but I agree that she seems quite confident that Caylee will never be found and that's why she's Van Der Slooting her way through this thing. Thank god you can take someone to trial in America on circumstantial evidence. And in this case, if nothing else, there is plenty. JMO


Yes, I tend to agree. If she placed her near alligators, wouldn't she also jeopardize her safety? Alligators can run fast!

[SavannahStar]

Post of the day!
:beer:

Thank you MyrDawn! :rose:

[spiritwolf46]

Yea i did. Sad part is-none of them are the Anthony's. They have all showed us their violent tendencies. They all scare me. jmo

Oh ITA!!! These people scare the holy daylights right out of me! I have never seen anything quite like them in my life. Glad that I haven't and pray that I never see it again.

[Joan Weiss]

Of course..I had dispute with a crazed neighbor behind me. He threatened to kill my young son when he was out back playing. I called the police..no law was broke I was told..I moved my sons play items to the front. I didnt act stupid and taunt an already crazy person.Exactly. I go down the block the other way and avoid the situation. That's how I have a nice day. ;) imo

OMG, threatening your child. :rose:

[cassidy]

sometimes I think she plays the "don't talk to me" "hey why aren't you talking to me" act.

I'm not a fan of the protesters, mainly because I find them to be unfair to the people trying to live around the Anthony's house, but she goes out of her way to start trouble. Maybe she was mad that no one heckled her when she was weeding. It's one thing to be an unwilling target, it's another to put on a bullseye t-shirt and go out swinging. She's a willing target and in my eyes that's as bad as the protesters actions.

I agree with you . she comes out looking for an altercation. What's the obsession with the no trespassing signs? And where were the big burly body guards?

[jessjam]

Cindy has guards outside..no reason to be hammering signs..she knows what she is doing. The signs are an excuse to get out among the protesters so she can throw a few F bombs. If that wasnt so..why not let the bodyguards nail signs?

I agree. She could of had the guards handle the situation.

[KatieKates]

IMO the children should be left at home. This isn't their fight. But none of this would have happened if Cindy woulda kept her butt in HER yard. She rushed the car. I would have jumped out also if she would have charged me like that. And i am a pretty calm person. jmo

I agree to disagree. It is NOT the protesters fight either. There is a justice system in place to deal with this, not everyday citizens. I'm all for protesting and putting pressure where it belongs. On LE, to work in a steadfast manner to bring this girl to justice. Martial law has not been declared in Florida, I believe, and the protesters should respect the laws in this country and not feel they have the right to take matters into their own hands just because they feel it's their right to do so. Whoever led them to believe that has sadly misled them and I can't believe the LE down there who is allowing this to go on. Their neighbors have rights too. :shrug: JMO

[day2day]

You can turn right around and say the same about the protestors. It's an everyday thing with the protestors. IMO they love the spotlight. They have NO business in front of the Antonys' house at that time of night unless they are lookin for a fight.

I don't think the children should be there AT ALL. But SS..it wasn't the protestor that rushed Cindy-it was the other way around. I really really believe they are taking their anger out on these people..when it should be directed towards Casey. Maybe if they did, she would end this nightmare and bring Caylee home :(..

[SavannahStar]

People? What people..it was MY post. And yes I fully believe in our law enforcement and believe its safer to call for help than take it on yourself.


I think there was more than one poster that said it would have been better to call the police.

I'm speed reading through here, getting ready to leave for church.

Sorry if I didn't get you the credit for that.

[steffaroob4]

wow,looks to me like Cindy was off her property and yes looking for trouble.mo

I can't see if she had a hammer in her hand, when she charged across the street. Can you tell?:shrug:

[SavannahStar]

I agree to disagree. It is NOT the protesters fight either. There is a justice system in place to deal with this, not everyday citizens. I'm all for protesting and putting pressure where it belongs. On LE, to work in a steadfast manner to bring this girl to justice. Martial law has not been declared in Florida, I believe, and the protesters should respect the laws in this country and not feel they have the right to take matters into their own hands just because they feel it's their right to do so. Whoever led them to believe that has sadly misled them and I can't believe the LE down there who is allowing this to go on. Their neighbors have rights too. :shrug: JMO

:beer: Great post. Now I do have to run. Carry on, everyone, and be nice to each other. :seeya:

[spiritwolf46]

I couldn't swear to this, and I'm too lazy to do a search right now, but it seems like in the past week or so there were MANY posts complaining that the Anthonys should not be calling the police as often as they do. So now this is a turnaround, right? Now people are saying they should be calling the police. :confused:

I remember posters saying that instead of them going out and facing the protesters that they SHOULD be calling LE. I remember posters saying that George did not have a problem calling LE over gas cans, but he seems to have a problem calling them for protesters and handling things like this himself.

I have seen posts like this on here, but could be wrong about not seeing what you have seen. :shrug:

[bluwaters]

Good morning, Reggie. I just noticed that Casey was arrested after her interview with LE at Universal. Do you think the defense will try to get that interview thrown out, and will they be successful?

The arrest affidavit:

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f07.24.08_affi davit.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

I watched parts of the initial bond hearing again yesterday. Baez questions Melich extensively about LE's interactions with Casey.
He starts off insulting Melich over taking 3 hours to get to the Anthony's after being assigned to the case. It's rather ridiculous to accuse Melich of not reacting promptly considering that Caylee had been missing for over a month and her own mother never reported it.
Baez also asks Melich accusingly if Melich has been on vacation since taking this case. As if detectives aren't allowed to take their well earned and needed vacations. But, I digress...

Baez follows Melich every step of the way on July 16 from his initial meeting with Casey at home to her arrest at the OCSO. At each new location or interview Baez asks if Casey could have asked for an attorney, to which Melich answers,"Yes." Baez always followed with the question, "Did Casey ever exercise her right to request an attorney," to which Melich always answers, "No." (paraphrased)

I realize that Baez is attempting to lay the groundwork for throwing out LE's interview with Casey. I don't understand the grounds he will claim.
Casey went voluntarily with the detectives, she agreed to speak with them, she is on record as talking with them of her own free will.
She was not under arrest, so she was not mirandized, but Casey never stated that she was unwilling or even uncomfortable about being questioned.

What will be Baez's argument for throwing out Casey's statements to detectives? If she had made a confession, would it make admissibility any different?

TIA for any thoughts and legal expertise on this subject. :seeya:

ETA:
Orange County Lead Detective takes the stand
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039465&version=1&locale=EN-US

[nutterbutter]

I can't see if she had a hammer in her hand, when she charged across the street. Can you tell?:shrug:
I dont think she had a hammer,but had a loud mouth.moo

[day2day]

I agree to disagree. It is NOT the protesters fight either. There is a justice system in place to deal with this, not everyday citizens. I'm all for protesting and putting pressure where it belongs. On LE, to work in a steadfast manner to bring this girl to justice. Martial law has not been declared in Florida, I believe, and the protesters should respect the laws in this country and not feel they have the right to take matters into their own hands just because they feel it's their right to do so. Whoever led them to believe that has sadly misled them and I can't believe the LE down there who is allowing this to go on. Their neighbors have rights too. :shrug: JMO

I feel sorry for the neighbors. I feel sorry for the innocent children. I do think that the Anthony's are violent. It just sorta pisses me off that they have those bodyguards and STILL get into it with them. It is hard for me to believe that they are "scared" when they rush these people.
I do believe in the justice sysem and I pray they are getting their ducks in a row.

:rose:

[Regina.Lampert]

I've heard theories that possibly Casey and Melinda Duckett placed their babies where alligators could get them. I am wondering what you all think.
Women usually use poison, ie., a quiet means of killing. So how would a "violent" burial accompany that means of death.

Yet she seems so confident in her stance, indicating to me that she knows Caylee will never be found.

What do you all think?

If it were anyone else but casey anthony I would agree with you, but this one is in a class all by herself.

One of the detectives even noted it in his intro to the arrest affadavit just how she walked with a confident stride down the corridors of Universal taking the police to "her office" when finally she stopped, turned around and finally admitted she was lying. This is what LE is dealing with, a real psychopath who will never admit lying unless and until she is cornered like the little rodent she is, imo.

[Destini]

I agree with you . she comes out looking for an altercation. What's the obsession with the no trespassing signs? And where were the big burly body guards?


That's what I'm saying .... what good are the body guards? Might as well get rid of them IMO.

And you wonder why there are protesters there. The Anthonys have a very unlikeable side to them .... it's just a matter of time now before there is really a free-for-all in the front yard.

[KatieKates]

I feel sorry for the neighbors. I feel sorry for the innocent children. I do think that the Anthony's are violent. It just sorta pisses me off that they have those bodyguards and STILL get into it with them. It is hard for me to believe that they are "scared" when they rush these people.
I do believe in the justice sysem and I pray they are getting their ducks in a row.

:rose:


I totally agree. ;)

No matter what, I feel this is only going to get worse. JMO

[Joan Weiss]

That's true here, except for the cursing part. That's still frowned up in pubic here. In fact, there's a city ordinance against cursing in public. But, it's just a legal for you to scream back at him, isn't it?Sure, I'm free to do the same thing. I am not a maniac, and I'm not prone to cursing and making people feel worse than they already do. I try not to ruin anyone's day. I also don't want to exacerbate the situation. imo

There was a big to-do regarding that in a county next to mine. A boater was cursing in front of children on the water. The situation went to the Supreme Court. The Court ruled that the curser had freedom of speech, and so parents have no recourse other than to avoid the area if they don't like it. :shrug: imo

[day2day]

Oh ITA!!! These people scare the holy daylights right out of me! I have never seen anything quite like them in my life. Glad that I haven't and pray that I never see it again.

You my friend should be thankful they moved from our great state. They COULD have been your neighbors :D~

[Tiger]

Yes, she did. Did you hear the very end of the video where Cindy says she has THREE people looking for Caylee when the woman said she was doing nothing? WTH????

:rose: Poor Caylee.

OMG!!! She said their are 3 people looking for Caylee!!! Wow!!! She really wants Caylee found doesn't she:cuss:

[Poochie Pie]

:beer: Unbelievable. And Cindy's getting the blame. Geeeeeeez. Of COURSE the protestors are trying to get Cindy irate!!!!! I agree, Savannah...!! They are baiting her... To be honest, if Casey were MY daughter, she wouldn't have a hair left in her head at this point... But, it is outrageous, IMO, that these protesters are allowed to bring little Children to the "Riots"...!! This has gone waaaaaay beyond a "peaceful protest".... LE needs to step in...

Poochie

[day2day]

I totally agree. ;)

No matter what, I feel this is only going to get worse. JMO


I thank God that LE got the gun. I agree things are getting to a "boiling point" and someone is going to get hurt badly. I have seen it coming for days now. And it is heartbreaking. :( jmo

[ladeebug565]

I know ..
That's what I keep wondering ..

I suppose when the case goes to trial, the question will be asked .. :shrug:


If it goes to trial, her defense team will implore her not to get on the stand. The prosecution would rip her a new one.

[MyrDawn]

For the record I just watched the video between Cindy and the protester and Cindy shouldnt have gone to the car ..BUT that protester PIZZED me off when she walked off an dleft her kid roilling in pain in the road..WTF is wrong with these people?

Some of them sure don't have their priorities straight, that's for sure!
JMO

[msgatorslayer]

very true, I had a lot of sympathy for Cindy, until the Tim Miller incident. That has changed my opinion of her, along with a lot of other things that I was giving her the benifit of the doubt about.

I don't think you're alone in your thoughts, Steff. I believe many of us had 'some' sympathy for Cindy in the beginning. But the more she spewed on tv, the more it was lost.

[spiritwolf46]

You my friend should be thankful they moved from our great state. They COULD have been your neighbors :D~

LOL! I know it! Dodged a bullet there! WHEW!

[concernedmom]

Cindy has guards outside..no reason to be hammering signs..she knows what she is doing. The signs are an excuse to get out among the protesters so she can throw a few F bombs. If that wasnt so..why not let the bodyguards nail signs?

Maybe its built up rage at Casey so she goes out and starts something with protesters. Maybe they should leave so she can direct her anger where it belongs. At her daughter.

[jessjam]

I don't think the children should be there AT ALL. But SS..it wasn't the protestor that rushed Cindy-it was the other way around. I really really believe they are taking their anger out on these people..when it should be directed towards Casey. Maybe if they did, she would end this nightmare and bring Caylee home :(..

Great Point!

[st777jo]

Apparently Cindy has no concern for her neighbors to be out hammering at midnight. IMO

[msgatorslayer]

Imaginary people searching for an imaginary nanny.

I guess they had imaginary guards who knew where Caylee was a couple of weeks ago. :mad:

[Joan Weiss]

I couldn't swear to this, and I'm too lazy to do a search right now, but it seems like in the past week or so there were MANY posts complaining that the Anthonys should not be calling the police as often as they do. So now this is a turnaround, right? Now people are saying they should be calling the police. :confused:Who would call LE when they are the provocateur? :confused:

[spiritwolf46]

OMG!!! She said their are 3 people looking for Caylee!!! Wow!!! She really wants Caylee found doesn't she:cuss:

Yep! Boy, that will find that little girl, won't it? These people irk the he77 out of me! When the video cut off, the protester sounded like she was getting ready to make fun of the THREE whole people they have looking for THEIR granddaughter.

Unbelievable!

[kitty1182]

My goodness..Why didn't she just turn her lights off and stay in the house? Why go out and make things worse? Just call LE and report loud screaming outside the house, but she should stay inside...She should know by now, going out just makes things worse..
That poor little boy:(

[trich]

There is a good chance it will be thrown out. Any custodial interrogation, even prior to arrest, requires the advisement of the right to an attorney.

When LE confronts the person with evidence ... ie we know you lied about so and so, we checked your story, etc .. that is considered an interrogation. So, it will hinge on whether it was custodial. The interrogation doesn't have to be at LE's offices to be custodial. If it is a detainment, it is custodial. So, the question will be was Casey free to get up and walk out of the room?

IMO



If I remember correctly she took them to Universal and actually was showing them where she worked....when they sat down in a room and started to ask questions.
Actually even if they can not use the tapes of the conversation I do not see it necessary that they would have to.
There are too many other people she told she worked at Universal when in fact she didn't.
Not to mention the whole world knows she did not report her daughter missing for 31 days.
The only explanation for that is she was suppose to follow a script....come on now any sensable person knows that is a bunch of hooey.
those tapes do nothing but prove she is a liar....there are many people who will confirm that along with her own mother....who will probably be
called as a witness although not a happy witness to have to explain her daughters lies and thievery.
Cindy will not be able to deny what she herself said on the 911 tapes.
Being upset will not be an explanation.....you don't just get upset and call your daughter a thief and want her arrested for no reason.
Think about it Cindy is the one who made this all go down.
Had she not called 911 nobody would still know about Caylee "missing".
IMO

[Joan Weiss]

If it were anyone else but casey anthony I would agree with you, but this one is in a class all by herself.

One of the detectives even noted it in his intro to the arrest affadavit just how she walked with a confident stride down the corridors of Universal taking the police to "her office" when finally she stopped, turned around and finally admitted she was lying. This is what LE is dealing with, a real psychopath who will never admit lying unless and until she is cornered like the little rodent she is, imo.I love this post! :cool:

[Kathlb]

Apparently Cindy has no concern for her neighbors to be out hammering at midnight. IMO

I know for a fact that if I had been in Cindy's place and said I was going out at midnight to pound signs amid some so far quiet protesters, my hubby would have said, "Are you nuts?!! You're just looking to start trouble, go to bed!" MOO

[Tiger]

Apparently Cindy has no concern for her neighbors to be out hammering at midnight. IMO

She doesn't care for anyone but herself and Casey:cuss:

[101Spots]

So where is the expen$ive media guru/attorney these days? Shouldn't he be running interference on the out-of-control Cindy/protesters situation? Is he even back from his NYC vacation/media blitz yet? I don't get the feeling he's earning his retainer.

[Regina.Lampert]

I couldn't swear to this, and I'm too lazy to do a search right now, but it seems like in the past week or so there were MANY posts complaining that the Anthonys should not be calling the police as often as they do. So now this is a turnaround, right? Now people are saying they should be calling the police. :confused:

cynthia looked like she charged the woman in the car because the woman called the princess a baby killer. cynthia needs to understand that not only criminals like casey have rights in this Country, but so do ordinary citizens who choose to express their freedom of speech.

That, imo, is why she did not call LE, calling casey anythony a babykiller is not against the law. So, cynthia took matters in her own hands and made a fool out of herself, once again. IMO.

[deep*fear]

Why are they payin the "bodyguards" for..is the $10,000.00 question!

How is my question. Are they using the "find Caylee" fund?

[Tiger]

Yep! Boy, that will find that little girl, won't it? These people irk the he77 out of me! When the video cut off, the protester sounded like she was getting ready to make fun of the THREE whole people they have looking for THEIR granddaughter.

Unbelievable!

Unbelievable for sure!!! With all the millions they are racking in over Caylee's death you think they could afford more than 3 people! For sweet Caylee:rose:

[Joan Weiss]

And my point is she's allowed on her property, it doesn't matter what she's doing. Hammering signs or sunbathing. Doesn't matter. And I twist nothing. :shrug:Legally, you're right. Imo, she knows what's going to happen, just as I know what's going to happen if I go past my neighbor's house. I avoid the situation, even though I know I have a perfect right to walk past there on a public sidewalk. I believe Cindy should do the same.

imo

[MyrDawn]

In this video it sure looks the protester was walking up the A's driveway, on their property, right towards Cindy, who was in or near the garage door. And, the reporter says that the protester came on to the A's property.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

[st777jo]

cynthia looked like she charged the woman in the car because the woman called the princess a baby killer. cynthia needs to understand that not only criminals like casey have rights in this Country, but so do ordinary citizens who choose to express their freedom of speech.

That, imo, is why she did not call LE, calling casey anythony a babykiller is not against the law. So, cynthia took matters in her own hands and made a fool out of herself, once again. IMO.


Absolutely, oops, wrong word. So True!!

[hamebone]

Wow, I watched the video of last nights fight...poor little boy...whats sad is the psychopath Casey that could put a stop to this for her family and neighbors.

The witch is watching calmly while her family implodes.

[zinnia]

Anyone heard anything about Caseys IQ?? From what her parents are showing it doesn't rate very well. IMO I heard she never finished High School; am I correct in that?
Love the fruit not falling far from the tree comment. Makes sense.

[Regina.Lampert]

Who would call LE when they are the provocateur? :confused:

Short, sweet and right! :seeya:

[Tiger]

I bet George didnt say a thing..just followed her out the door..I feel they love the confrontation.

ITA! It seems like they love caos! I know people like that:( They have to have caos on their lives to make life worth living!! Poor Caylee never had a chance at a normal life.

[impartial]

If I remember correctly she took them to Universal and actually was showing them where she worked....when they sat down in a room and started to ask questions.
Actually even if they can not use the tapes of the conversation I do not see it necessary that they would have to.
There are too many other people she told she worked at Universal when in fact she didn't.
Not to mention the whole world knows she did not report her daughter missing for 31 days.
The only explanation for that is she was suppose to follow a script....come on now any sensable person knows that is a bunch of hooey.
those tapes do nothing but prove she is a liar....there are many people who will confirm that along with her own mother....who will probably be
called as a witness although not a happy witness to have to explain her daughters lies and thievery.
Cindy will not be able to deny what she herself said on the 911 tapes.
Being upset will not be an explanation.....you don't just get upset and call your daughter a thief and want her arrested for no reason.
Think about it Cindy is the one who made this all go down.
Had she not called 911 nobody would still know about Caylee "missing".
IMO


Where were they when they did the first taped interview?

I don't think they will need the interview either.

[day2day]

Yep! Boy, that will find that little girl, won't it? These people irk the he77 out of me! When the video cut off, the protester sounded like she was getting ready to make fun of the THREE whole people they have looking for THEIR granddaughter.

Unbelievable!

Three. Sad isn't it. I just don't know what to think anymore. There sure is alot of anger pent up in that house. I am happy I don't have to live like that. Do they realize that IF Caylee is alive, and they keep showing the world their anger, they will have a hard flippin time gettin custody of her. Heck, they are even mean to dogs. :(

JMO

[spiritwolf46]

Unbelievable for sure!!! With all the millions they are racking in over Caylee's death you think they could afford more than 3 people! For sweet Caylee:rose:

And what do you want to bet that THAT is fabricated as well. Bet that there is not ONE person looking for that little girl that THEY have. The only ones looking are those who truly care about Caylee and not CASEY.

Sad, sad, sad for sure.

:rose: For CAYLEE

[AMS]

cynthia looked like she charged the woman in the car because the woman called the princess a baby killer. cynthia needs to understand that not only criminals like casey have rights in this Country, but so do ordinary citizens who choose to express their freedom of speech.

That, imo, is why she did not call LE, calling casey anythony a babykiller is not against the law. So, cynthia took matters in her own hands and made a fool out of herself, once again. IMO.



And Casey undoubtedly slept through the entire event...unfazed by the world spinning out of control around her. MOO.

[msgatorslayer]

I hope the HOA lawsuit will put an end to this madness. Others who live on that street have a right to some peace and quiet. And if this keeps up, someone is going to get hurt. Luckily, George's gun has been taken away.

[Kathlb]

In this video it sure looks the protester was walking up the A's driveway, on their property, right towards Cindy, who was in or near the garage door. And, the reporter says that the protester came on to the A's property.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

If that's true, and I imagine we'll find out more later, then Cindy should have called LE immediately and went back inside. Not charged out yelling expletives and rushing her after she was getting in her car to leave. MOO

[concernedmom]

We know who the 3 people are not. George, Cindy & Lee.

[day2day]

How is my question. Are they using the "find Caylee" fund?

I have read alot about the funds ...I really am afraid to type my opinion about it ..:(

[~jomomma~]

hey all! :seeya:

i'm sorry for asking but what happened? did something happen at the house last night?

[day2day]

And Casey undoubtedly slept through the entire event...unfazed by the world spinning out of control around her. MOO.
Sleep? No, no the princess was probly talking to her "friends" on myspace or facebook :punch:

[Kathlb]

I also was under the impression that the bodyguards leave after George gets home. So Cindy waited until they were gone before going out to hammer at midnight. jmho

[Joan Weiss]

I agree to disagree. It is NOT the protesters fight either. There is a justice system in place to deal with this, not everyday citizens. I'm all for protesting and putting pressure where it belongs. On LE, to work in a steadfast manner to bring this girl to justice. Martial law has not been declared in Florida, I believe, and the protesters should respect the laws in this country and not feel they have the right to take matters into their own hands just because they feel it's their right to do so. Whoever led them to believe that has sadly misled them and I can't believe the LE down there who is allowing this to go on. Their neighbors have rights too. :shrug: JMOI believe they have freedom to assemble...

The neighbors are unfortunately caught in the headlights. Unless someone is physically attacking them or their property, there's nothing they can do. imo

[Kathlb]

I believe they have freedom to assemble...

The neighbors are unfortunately caught in the headlights. Unless someone is physically attacking them or their property, there's nothing they can do. imo


Just a thought on my part, but I think Cindy might be trying to step things up before the court rules on Tuesday about the protesters. moo

[bluwaters]

Cindy has a right to go anywhere she chooses..if she wants to confront the protesters so be it..more power to her..I wouldnt if I were her..its going to lead to someone getting hurt. She needs to stay inside and call the police.

A child did get hurt last night. It appears that the protesters were leaving in their car when Cindy approached them in the street. The child was hurt when the male companion of the woman protester tried to restrain her and pushed her against the open car door where the child was standing in the car.

Amazing and disturbing scene with bad behavior all around.

I hate to see that child writhing in the street in pain, ignored by everyone, except a rather mean attempt by a young female (older sister?) to make him stand.

Everyone is out of control. :flamemad:

[SandyO]

cynthia looked like she charged the woman in the car because the woman called the princess a baby killer. cynthia needs to understand that not only criminals like casey have rights in this Country, but so do ordinary citizens who choose to express their freedom of speech.

That, imo, is why she did not call LE, calling casey anythony a babykiller is not against the law. So, cynthia took matters in her own hands and made a fool out of herself, once again. IMO.

I believe more than ever that Cindy is visiting Jack Daniels a little more often than we suspected.

[Regina.Lampert]

In this video it sure looks the protester was walking up the A's driveway, on their property, right towards Cindy, who was in or near the garage door. And, the reporter says that the protester came on to the A's property.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html



"When Caylee comes home, you will go to hell," Cindy Anthony told them."

LOL, she doesn't even make sense with her taunts, imo. cynthia anthony loves to agitate already angry people, you reap what you sow and the anthonys are having a hell of a harvest of bad will.

[st777jo]

I just watched the video. I did not see the protesting woman on the Anthony's property. I seen her in the street in front of the driveway. Anyone else see this?

[Velouria]

Yes, she did. Did you hear the very end of the video where Cindy says she has THREE people looking for Caylee when the woman said she was doing nothing? WTH????

:rose: Poor Caylee.

But it makes perfect sense to me, spiritwolf...

"Okay, here's the plan...you search Mexico. You over there...you search Puerto Rico. And you can search Texas. Now get off your azzes and go to it!"

[Lorakai]

Goodmorning everyone :) How is everyone doing today? My husband and I sat and listened to the taped interviews yesterday. I have to admit, you get a whole different feel and opinion about the interview between reading it, and actually hearing it. I wished Casey had come clean about everything and LE was good about putting the pressure on. My husband and I both agreed that LE could have asked many questions that they did not, although I'm sure there were more interviews not released yet, it would have been a good time to ask certain questions. I thought it odd such a long pause when Casey was asked if Caylee went missing before or after the car ran out of gas or something to that effect....

[msgatorslayer]

Just a thought on my part, but I think Cindy might be trying to step things up before the court rules on Tuesday about the protesters. moo

Oh, good point. And the vigil is tonight. Wonder what will happen.

[Softail]

Who in their right mind would contribute funds to the Anthonys? I beiieve the funds would be going to Caseys defense and not used to find Caylee..

[kitty1182]

I believe more than ever that Cindy is visiting Jack Daniels a little more often than we suspected.

I think so too..

[day2day]

But it makes perfect sense to me, spiritwolf...

"Okay, here's the plan...you search Mexico. You over there...you search Puerto Rico. And you can search Texas. Now get off your azzes and go to it!"

:eek: there ya go in a nutshell!

[ccat]

Someone in an earlier post suggested that the Anthonys love confrontation and ITA. I think it energizes them. Their confrontational behavior gives a great deal of insight into the family dynamics.

[Joan Weiss]

cynthia looked like she charged the woman in the car because the woman called the princess a baby killer. cynthia needs to understand that not only criminals like casey have rights in this Country, but so do ordinary citizens who choose to express their freedom of speech.

That, imo, is why she did not call LE, calling casey anythony a babykiller is not against the law. So, cynthia took matters in her own hands and made a fool out of herself, once again. IMO.That's correct, imo. Cindy waded right in. Too bad Casey doesn't come out, she's the one who needs aggravation. Shame on her for hiding in the house while her parents are being tortured. imo

[joolz]

I hope the HOA lawsuit will put an end to this madness. Others who live on that street have a right to some peace and quiet. And if this keeps up, someone is going to get hurt. Luckily, George's gun has been taken away.


At least the one we know about. :shrug: Secrets and Lies: The Anthony Method

[concernedmom]

If the got a bunch of money from ABC shouldnt they use it to hire more than 3 people to look for Caylee instead of using it to bail mommy out of jail? After all, a live Caylee will free her daughter.

[spiritwolf46]

A child did get hurt last night. It appears that the protesters were leaving in their car when Cindy approached them in the street. The child was hurt when the male companion of the woman protester tried to restrain her and pushed her against the open car door where the child was standing in the car.

Amazing and disturbing scene with bad behavior all around.

I hate to see that child writhing in the street in pain, ignored by everyone, except a rather mean attempt by a young female (older sister?) to make him stand.

Everyone is out of control. :flamemad:

Everything sure IS out of control. Though I agree with the right to protest, and I also hope that it IS driving the princess and her cohorts up the wall, I do NOT believe that this is a place for children. That protester should NEVER have had her children with her along with all the other ones that do have them with them. Seems to demean the whole purpose of them being there to begin with.

ITA. Someone will get hurt very badly very soon if this is not controlled. I feel for the children and the neighbors who have been pulled into this mess.

And all the while, Casey is on her computer being MOTHER OF THE YEAR and not giving a rats azz about anything or anyone other than herself. SHE is a waste....a HUGE waste!

:rose: For Caylee

[Joan Weiss]

Let's see if I have this right...Cindy doesn't have a right to go to her front yard, but the protesters do. So, no matter who did what, if a scuffle happens it's Cindy's fault by the mere fact she's in her own yard. Is that it?Unfortunately, this is not a situation that lends itself to merely appearing in "her front yard." I think you know that...imo

[spiritwolf46]

If the got a bunch of money from ABC shouldnt they use it to hire more than 3 people to look for Caylee instead of using it to bail mommy out of jail? After all, a live Caylee will free her daughter.


Gee, one would think huh? Great post!

[barskin&co.]

"When Caylee comes home, you will go to hell," Cindy Anthony told them."

LOL, she doesn't even make sense with her taunts, imo. cynthia anthony loves to agitate already angry people, you reap what you sow and the anthonys are having a hell of a harvest of bad will.


"The protester and Cindy had to be physically restrained by loved ones. The exchange ended peacefully and was sparked when Cindy came out to put back some no trespassing signs. "

It ended "peacefully" then Cindy comes out to "put back some no trespassing signs." We know what that means: She brought out her hammer. She spoils for fights. She has so much misplaced anger that she con't contan it.

[ccat]

That's correct, imo. Cindy waded right in. Too bad Casey doesn't come out, she's the one who needs aggravation. Shame on her for hiding in the house while her parents are being tortured. imo

Yes, Joan. I think Casey derives much power from this.
I think the parents feel guilty about instituting their "tough love" approach and therefore have gone into a protective mode. However, the hassles with the protesters may make them feel that they've paid their dues and perhaps they will shift gears. I hope!

[spiritwolf46]

But it makes perfect sense to me, spiritwolf...

"Okay, here's the plan...you search Mexico. You over there...you search Puerto Rico. And you can search Texas. Now get off your azzes and go to it!"

You said it all, right there! And the sad part is that it probably DOES make sense in their minds. SCARY!

[MyrDawn]

Someone in an earlier post suggested that the Anthonys love confrontation and ITA. I think it energizes them. Their confrontational behavior gives a great deal of insight into the family dynamics.

IMO, it reveals a great deal of insight into the family dynamics of the protesters that bring their children along to the A's so they can scream and curse at the A's in front of those children. Especially the one that ignored her injured child lying there in pain.

[Joan Weiss]

wow, the video is SHOCKING (http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=00URYVxCindyClash_0914200809 04&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Clashes%20With%20Protesters)Thanks for the link. Clearly, the protester was leaving. Cindy charged her on public property. imo

[frances1]

Casey probably went to her mother and said, "Mommy, those bad people outside are interrupting my sleep", and Cindy went after them. After all, nothing should interrupt poor Casey's sleep.

[Joan Weiss]

IMO, it reveals a great deal of insight into the family dynamics of the protesters that bring their children along to the A's so they can scream and curse at the A's in front of those children. Especially the one that ignored her injured child lying there in pain.She clearly was not aware that her child was injured. She was being held back by a young man. Watch the video. :rolleyes:

jmo

[rosejustrose]

Who in their right mind would contribute funds to the Anthonys? I beiieve the funds would be going to Caseys defense and not used to find Caylee..


Hi all! This is my first post here. Wouldn't that be a misappropriation of funds? Isn't the Find Caylee fund set up expressly for that purpose? It wouldn't surprise me, though, if the Anthony's used those funds for their own purposes. They don't appear to be a particularly ethical family. JMHO.

[kitty1182]

"The protester and Cindy had to be physically restrained by loved ones. The exchange ended peacefully and was sparked when Cindy came out to put back some no trespassing signs. "

It ended "peacefully" then Cindy comes out to "put back some no trespassing signs." We know what that means: She brought out her hammer. She spoils for fights. She has so much misplaced anger that she con't contan it.

She needs to take that anger out on Casey...She might get some answers then..

[cutiepatootie61]

In this video it sure looks the protester was walking up the A's driveway, on their property, right towards Cindy, who was in or near the garage door. And, the reporter says that the protester came on to the A's property.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17458657/detail.html

I didn't notice the protester in the driveway, it appears she stayed right at the end of it... I did not see anyone on their property, not to say it didn't happen. I myself wouldn't waste my time picketing and protesting in front of the Anthony homestead, but some feel the need for it. I don't see it helping to find Caylee at all. I found it very disturbing to see that child rolling around in the road in pain, while the adults were arguing and restraining the mother. Shame on them! Wonder if their neighbors will picket them for this display? That woman is no better than the family she is protesting against. moo

[kitty1182]

Hi all! This is my first post here. Wouldn't that be a misappropriation of funds? Isn't the Find Caylee fund set up expressly for that purpose? It wouldn't surprise me, though, if the Anthony's used those funds for their own purposes. They don't appear to be a particularly ethical family. JMHO.

Hello and Welcome:seeya:

[Joan Weiss]

Yes, Joan. I think Casey derives much power from this.
I think the parents feel guilty about instituting their "tough love" approach and therefore have gone into a protective mode. However, the hassles with the protesters may make them feel that they've paid their dues and perhaps they will shift gears. I hope!This is why I think there should not be all this drama with the protesters. The Anthonys need to have peace, so they can focus on the facts of Caylee's disappearance. Right now George and Cindy are stuck in defense mode. That's taking up all their conscious thoughts. imo

[BobbysGirl]

Good morning all,
Here is the link to the story about the altercation. Now explain to me why Cindy was out around midnight hammering again when protesters were there? She is totally losing her control to go to bed and stay inside.
jmho

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

I would lose it. I could not get links to work. What the heck these protesters doing out late at night? Heckling? Making noise? Enough news media there. Sure, Cindy should sit in her house and mind her own business. I would lose sleep and sanity if this went on day and night. Sad very sad.

Cindy needs to get it together. If she cain't sleep, take a damn pill. Time to get it together. AS for the protestors, demonstrators what ever....IMO they need to stay home. Go party. Get drunk or whatever floats their boat.

The day after day and week after week, All nutzo's will be out. For shame and sadness for little Caylee.

Disgusting,

Round here in Texas this sh** don't tolerate. We have city ordinance and noise laws.

:(

BG

[kitty1182]

can you imagine halloween night? :eek:

[bluwaters]

For the record I just watched the video between Cindy and the protester and Cindy shouldnt have gone to the car ..BUT that protester PIZZED me off when she walked off an dleft her kid roilling in pain in the road..WTF is wrong with these people?

pot meet kettle

I wonder how badly injured that child's arm was. The weight of two adults, one quite large, slamming into that car door must have put a great deal of pressure on that boy's arm. It could have been broken.
I wonder how his arm is today?
DCF needs to be called on this one.

What was the point of having children out there at that time of night?
Really, of having children there at all?
What did the parents think they were teaching their children by having them witness and be involved in that violent scene?

This situation has become out of control...

[concernedmom]

can you imagine halloween night? :eek:

Ive thought about that. Wonder if they will set Casey out there as a lawn display?:shrug:

[day2day]

She needs to take that anger out on Casey...She might get some answers then..

That would be the logical thing to do. Nothing the Anthony's do (imo) is logical.

:shrug:

[Joan Weiss]

"The protester and Cindy had to be physically restrained by loved ones. The exchange ended peacefully and was sparked when Cindy came out to put back some no trespassing signs. "

It ended "peacefully" then Cindy comes out to "put back some no trespassing signs." We know what that means: She brought out her hammer. She spoils for fights. She has so much misplaced anger that she con't contan it.Yep, and if you listen, Cindy threatened to use the Hammer! :eek: imo

[st777jo]

She clearly was not aware that her child was injured. She was being held back by a young man. Watch the video. :rolleyes:

jmo

IMO, some people just don't want to blame the Anthony's for anything.

That woman was not on her property. That woman was in her car.

Why is Cindy out there at midnight, disturbing the peace of her neighbors by hammering?

Cindy clearly walked up to that woman. Look at the video's please.

JMO

[cutiepatootie61]

can you imagine halloween night? :eek:


Oh dear, it will be a frightfest for sure. Stock in Charmin is about to sky rocket and the egging will be out of control for sure.

[Lorakai]

I have to go to work soon,.. but later when I get home I'm going to finish an organized time line I've been working on to the best of my ability. Till then,.. hope everyone has a good day :)

[kitty1182]

pot meet kettle

I wonder how badly injured that child's arm was. The weight of two adults, one quite large, slamming into that car door must have put a great deal of pressure on that boy's arm. It could have been broken.
I wonder how his arm is today?
DCF needs to be called on this one.

What was the point of having children out there at that time of night?
Really, of having children there at all?
What did the parents think they were teaching their children by having them witness and be involved in that violent scene?

This situation has become out of control...

It is getting out of control bad..Children should not be out there..If I were a protester, I would be quite and come by and throw rotten eggs in the yard..LOL

[ccat]

This is why I think there should not be all this drama with the protesters. The Anthonys need to have peace, so they can focus on the facts of Caylee's disappearance. Right now George and Cindy are stuck in defense mode. That's taking up all their conscious thoughts. imo

Perhaps that is so. They are feeling like victims and therefore feel justified uin their actions. But do you think they ever say to themselves, "Gee, look what Casey has caused?"

[MyrDawn]

She clearly was not aware that her child was injured. She was being held back by a young man. Watch the video. :rolleyes:

jmo


I did. Did you? Why did she ignore her child I wonder. Too busy to even hear his pain? BTW, did you recognize the young man? The one with no shirt and the tattoo? Wasn't he the same guy that got into it with Lee Anthony last week? He sure looks like him to me! :rolleyes:

[summer4meplz]

It's too bad the reporter talks over cindy and that protestor...I would have loved to have heard what they were saying to each other....that poor little boy...he looked like he was in agony!!

[Joan Weiss]

pot meet kettle

I wonder how badly injured that child's arm was. The weight of two adults, one quite large, slamming into that car door must have put a great deal of pressure on that boy's arm. It could have been broken.
I wonder how his arm is today?
DCF needs to be called on this one.

What was the point of having children out there at that time of night?
Really, of having children there at all?
What did the parents think they were teaching their children by having them witness and be involved in that violent scene?

This situation has become out of control...DCF? That's ridiculous. Clearly, Cindy caused this situation, imo. She should be arrested, particularly when she uttered the threat about using the hammer. imo

[~jomomma~]

She needs to take that anger out on Casey...She might get some answers then..

exactly!

thanks for the video for those who posted it.

how sad.

[msgatorslayer]

can you imagine halloween night? :eek:

Heheee, they're lucky I'm not their neighbor. :punch:

[Joan Weiss]

OMG she did????:eek:Yes. Listen to the video. When she dived right into the car, she said "And if you keep saying that, I'm going to..." That's how they both had to be restrained. Self defense on the protester's side. Cindy was right in her face. imo

[johnielee333]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

Click any unlit candle to begin.

:rose:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

i just did. thanks for keeping this going !

:rose: for Caylee.

[barskin&co.]

She needs to take that anger out on Casey...She might get some answers then..


That's exactly it. That is the only way we can get answers. Cindy's anger is at Casey, but she is suppressing it and aiming it at everyone else (at reporters, long before the protestors arrived on the scene).
What is so crazy, what seems so hard for us to understands, is that she doesn't place that anger just where it belongs: at Casey and her lies.

What were you doing for 2 and a 1/2 years when we thought you were working?
Tell us one person who knew "Zanny" that we can actually talk to?
Show us one place that you can prove she lived.
You must have a picture of Zanny, let's see it.
Show us a phone number that belonged to Zanny.
Where are these stores that you would occasionally pick up Caylee from Zanny?
How could you know a person for 4 years and not know one other person who knew her, one other mother of a child she took care of, one real address where people remember her?
Casey, is there really a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez?
Casey, where did you put Caylee????

[summer4meplz]

This may have been discussed in length, but I haven't read everything.

What do you make of Wanda Wery and her son allegedly seeing Caylee at the Orlando IA?

Wery called LE on 7-23 and said she had met a young child who said her name was Caylee Marie Anthony.

Her son was interviewed separated and said the child said her name was "Caylee Marie, I can't remember the last name. She was with a female who did not act like a parent."

That's kind of a strange thing for a 13 year old to say....

Any thoughts?

iirc le checked into it...and not surprising...found it wasn't true

[barskin&co.]

This may have been discussed in length, but I haven't read everything.

What do you make of Wanda Wery and her son allegedly seeing Caylee at the Orlando IA?

Wery called LE on 7-23 and said she had met a young child who said her name was Caylee Marie Anthony.

Her son was interviewed separated and said the child said her name was "Caylee Marie, I can't remember the last name. She was with a female who did not act like a parent."

That's kind of a strange thing for a 13 year old to say....

Any thoughts?
That was checked out long ago. There were no toddlers flying on the maifest.

[Rayosunshine]

Why was Cindy putting the signs back up when she had the BG there?
These people need to leave their kids out of it before one gets hurt bad.

Wonder how small the kid was that got his/her arm caught in the door as the protester mother closed it. Wonder how hard the door was slammed and how bad the child is injured.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[msgatorslayer]

This may have been discussed in length, but I haven't read everything.

What do you make of Wanda Wery and her son allegedly seeing Caylee at the Orlando IA?

Wery called LE on 7-23 and said she had met a young child who said her name was Caylee Marie Anthony.

Her son was interviewed separated and said the child said her name was "Caylee Marie, I can't remember the last name. She was with a female who did not act like a parent."

That's kind of a strange thing for a 13 year old to say....

Any thoughts?

To believe someone saw Caylee, you'd have to believe that Casey really did drop Caylee off with someone. And forget about the decomp smell that followed Casey through her yard and into her trunk.

[Joan Weiss]

I have to go to work soon,.. but later when I get home I'm going to finish an organized time line I've been working on to the best of my ability. Till then,.. hope everyone has a good day :)Thank you so much for your excellent work! :rose:

[bluwaters]

I believe more than ever that Cindy is visiting Jack Daniels a little more often than we suspected.

I know that I am visiting Jack more than is customary since getting caught up in this!
:hat:

[Destini]

What worries me .... at this time of night some of the protesters probably get up their nerve to go there because they've been drinking, Cindy's probably been drinking. That just makes them braver & from my experience makes a lot of people more confrontational.

I'm worried one of these days some REAL nut job is gonna have a few too many & go over there with a weapon & hoping to make front page news. Ugh.

People, PLEASE, if you cannot restrain yourself from going to this house, keep your children away from there!!

I just cannot see this getting better, only worse. Wonder if the HOA will have any success in getting things moved to somewhere else. At least it would keep Cindy's face away from the protesters, but I don't know that they have a legal right to insist on this unless there's more than 100 protesters.

[Lorakai]

This may have been discussed in length, but I haven't read everything.

What do you make of Wanda Wery and her son allegedly seeing Caylee at the Orlando IA?

Wery called LE on 7-23 and said she had met a young child who said her name was Caylee Marie Anthony.

Her son was interviewed separated and said the child said her name was "Caylee Marie, I can't remember the last name. She was with a female who did not act like a parent."

That's kind of a strange thing for a 13 year old to say....

Any thoughts?

As far as I know stormy,LE interviewed both WDW and her son. After taking the interview in and creating a sketch of the woman who was with the little girl, the interview and the sketch was turned over to the feds,.. LE said they would not release the sketch simply because they wanted more proof before putting a face out there...

[Lorakai]

Thank you so much for your excellent work! :rose:

ty Joan,.. yvw :)

[i4doors]

It is getting out of control bad..Children should not be out there..If I were a protester, I would be quite and come by and throw rotten eggs in the yard..LOL
too funny:lol::lol::lol:love it...(sorry, ot)

[Joan Weiss]

This may have been discussed in length, but I haven't read everything.

What do you make of Wanda Wery and her son allegedly seeing Caylee at the Orlando IA?

Wery called LE on 7-23 and said she had met a young child who said her name was Caylee Marie Anthony.

Her son was interviewed separated and said the child said her name was "Caylee Marie, I can't remember the last name. She was with a female who did not act like a parent."

That's kind of a strange thing for a 13 year old to say....

Any thoughts?Coached, imo.

[Rayosunshine]

I agree with you. There is nothing to be gained by going outside at midnight to hammer in signs...other than trouble. If they were loud or trespassing then call the cops. We know the Anthony's know how to do that. BUT....she just can't stay away IMO.

She couldn't sleep, maybe she is falling over the edge.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[spageddy]

pot meet kettle

I wonder how badly injured that child's arm was. The weight of two adults, one quite large, slamming into that car door must have put a great deal of pressure on that boy's arm. It could have been broken.
I wonder how his arm is today?
DCF needs to be called on this one.

What was the point of having children out there at that time of night?
Really, of having children there at all?
What did the parents think they were teaching their children by having them witness and be involved in that violent scene?

This situation has become out of control...

ITA Blu- And "Pot meets kettle" just about sums it up. Those protesters should be ashamed of themselves- Was that their idea of a family outing? I think at least the shirtless guy has been there before- and in an altercation. At first I wondered if the little kid was faking his pain. Maybe pre-planned? But nah... I just think they are a bunch o' trashy people looking for excitement.

And who the heck let Cindy loose. Those body guards and George can't keep her inside? They are all out of their minds right now.
Someone else is gonna get hurt (IMO)- and it can't be doing much for property values on Hopespring Drive either.
I have friends who think the entire state of Fla is nothing but Alligators, Bugs and Child abusers. They call it the ABC state. I disagree because I KNOW differently, but it's kinda hard to argue with them these days. In fact, I think they should think about changing the A to Anthonys. The alligators are starting to look good next to that bunch! :)

[Danette44]

I wouldn't bother MyrDawn. If the flooding in Florida and Texas could be blamed on someone it would be Cindy Anthony at this point. :seeya:

How ironic that those are the (2) states they have been really focused on looking for Caylee. Perhaps the flooding will wash Caylee's little body to surface as it did for Laci and Connor when they had a storm come thru, it took 3 months for them to surface. JMOO

[Lorakai]

Coached, imo.

Here is what I could find about WDW and her son from the 400pg doc's

On July 23rd, 2008 a tip was called in by Wanda Denise Wery who said she, and her 13 yr old son Nicholas, were boarding an AirTran flight 862 from Orlando to Georgia on July 2, 2008 when they met Caylee who was interested in the dog they were carrying on board. Detectives met with Mrs. Wery. and interviewed her and her son Nicholas who gave detailed statements to the sighting of Caylee. Wanda and her son completed a sketch for detectives. The last stored date of the surveillance video from the Orlando Airport was erased from the tape, which was July 8th, 2008. Wery and her son remember the girl saying her name was Caylee Marie Antony, when asked how old she was she put up three fingers and adjusted them to two. They recall her wearing blue "crocs" and said that the adult female who was with her did not act like a parent. According to the flight manifest two children were scheduled to board that flight, they were,... AnnaBell Taylor b. May1, 2007 said to be seated in the lap, and 7 yr old Zayid Bolds. Wery recalls she thinks they were sitting in rows 10 or 11. This information was forwarded to to FBI for investigation.

bye guys,.. till later,... I have to get ready for work now :) I'll be back around 6:00 tonight....

[johnielee333]

Cindy Anthony Clashes With Protesters (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html)

and The child of one of the protesters appeared to be hurt when his arm got caught in a car door by his mother as they went to leave.

my response to the above ^ statement -- this is one of the reasons why i dont think kids should be there. this is not a place for kids IMO.

[Joan Weiss]

Wow..she needs to stop taking the hammer out with her.Yep. Silly me for thinking George would be the one...

Cindy attacked that woman, and had a dangerous weapon in her hand. If that were anyone else, they'd have been arrested, imo.

[msgatorslayer]

She couldn't sleep, maybe she is falling over the edge.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

Someones gotta give soon. And it does look as though Cindy may be the first one to crack.

[barskin&co.]

ITA Blu- And "Pot meets kettle" just about sums it up. Those protesters should be ashamed of themselves- Was that their idea of a family outing? I think at least the shirtless guy has been there before- and in an altercation. At first I wondered if the little kid was faking his pain. Maybe pre-planned? But nah... I just think they are a bunch o' trashy people looking for excitement.

And who the heck let Cindy loose. Those body guards and George can't keep her inside? They are all out of their minds right now.
Someone else is gonna get hurt (IMO)- and it can't be doing much for property values on Hopespring Drive either.
I have friends who think the entire state of Fla is nothing but Alligators, Bugs and Child abusers. They call it the ABC state. I disagree because I KNOW differently, but it's kinda hard to argue with them these days. In fact, I think they should think about changing the A to Anthonys. The alligators are starting to look good next to that bunch! :)

Well, it seems Mark Nejame's PR strategy is faring less well than he expected. :rolleyes:

[Rayosunshine]

Good morning, Reggie. I just noticed that Casey was arrested after her interview with LE at Universal. Do you think the defense will try to get that interview thrown out, and will they be successful?

The arrest affidavit:

http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f07.24.08_affi davit.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935

Joan, I was thinking sort of along those lines just before reading your post. Could it be that LE didn't push her hard, because they were on "her turf". I would imagine the interrogation on LE's turf would be video recorded, to protect both sides. Think they use the audio/video recording in Florida?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[Joan Weiss]

and The child of one of the protesters appeared to be hurt when his arm got caught in a car door by his mother as they went to leave.

my response to the above ^ statement -- this is one of the reasons why i dont think kids should be there. this is not a place for kids IMO.Her child was with her, they were getting in the car to leave. What's not to understand about that? imo

[rosejustrose]

Let's see if I have this right...Cindy doesn't have a right to go to her front yard, but the protesters do. So, no matter who did what, if a scuffle happens it's Cindy's fault by the mere fact she's in her own yard. Is that it?

IMO, this has nothing to do with rights, legal or otherwise. This situation calls for common sense, something Cindy is clearly lacking. Those signs are useless and she knows it. There was no pressing reason for her to be out there at midnight hammering them back into the ground. Common sense dictates that you keep yourself removed from potentially explosive confrontations. Cindy wanted confrontation, she charged the woman who was sitting in her van. The Anthonys have a lot to answer for - that's just fact. JMHO.

[Joan Weiss]

Joan, I was thinking sort of along those lines just before reading your post. Could it be that LE didn't push her hard, because they were on "her turf". I would imagine the interrogation on LE's turf would be video recorded, to protect both sides. Think they use the audio/video recording in Florida?

Isabelle,
Ray'sMomImo, they were just trying to find her missing child, and they were beginning to see how arduous a task that was going to be. I don't think they did anything inappropriate. I don't know FLA law. imo

[Rayosunshine]

To teach them how to fight for what they believe in, or the first amendment, or....:rolleyes:


I'd call it endangering a minor on purpose.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[snowflakes]

I wonder why the Anthonys are keeping their garage door open.
Seems to be inviting trouble. JMO

[Rayosunshine]

It sounds like Cindy was there first. Did you read the article at the link?

I guess Cindy would be there first, it is her property.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[MyrDawn]

Dang it! You all saw how late I stayed up last night and all the chaos happened right after I signed off! Wouldn't you know it? I'm always a day late and a dollar short!

I watched the video and it appears to me this protester was just driving by and it was her misfortune that Cindy had to come out hammer at all hours of the night just to start a riot! The driver of the car was so angry she just had to start shouting (not allowed when protesting, peaceful protests only). That woman was NOT on their property. You can clearly see Cindy charge at her. Even at the end of it, you can see that they were not even in the driveway.

The saddest part of all is that our children are not being properly cared for and protected. That poor little boy rolling around on the pavement in dire pain while the adults are screaming and yelling profanities! Now that is what I call a good role model for children! NOT!

It appears to me that the child probably did break an arm and that would mean a trip to ER. If that woman doesn't already have a DCF case opened, she should have now.

What is wrong with these adults? Who is taking care of innocent children???? :confused:

Sorry to get started on such a rant :cuss: this morning, but that child on the street really disturbed me!

Just driving by? Guess you didn't see this video:
http://www.wftv.com/video/17469643/index.html

[kitty1182]

too funny:lol::lol::lol:love it...(sorry, ot)

I'm serious..I would not make any noise at all and throw eggs and ciggy butts in the yard...LOL

[Rayosunshine]

Yes, don't leave your house ever, or you're responsible for the consequences. Makes sense to me. :rolleyes:

This is America, right? Remember those rights you're all in favor for protecting? I guess that gets extended to everyone but Cindy Anthony. That's awesome.

Excellent point Katie. Good thing we are covered under the Constitution.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

[bluwaters]

DCF? That's ridiculous. Clearly, Cindy caused this situation, imo. She should be arrested, particularly when she uttered the threat about using the hammer. imo

I don't think it ridiculous at all to involve DCF. A child was injured and ignored by the brawling adults all around. I wonder about the sobriety of the woman driver as well. Cindy did not injure the child.

The adults with the child were clearly not concerned with his welfare.
Everyone makes choices. It seems to me that adults made very poor decisions last night, on both sides, and a child was injured in a violent confrontation.

[spiritwolf46]

I'd call it endangering a minor on purpose.

Isabelle,
Ray'sMom

So you think that the mother slammed the door on her child on purpose??? WHERE do you get that?

It was an accident. Should the child have been there? NO, but to say that this was endagering a minor ON PURPOSE....well....I will not get banned over it.

:rose: FOR CAYLEE

[msgatorslayer]

I found this parody of Casey's call to Mom.

http://vocalo.org/explore/content/31866

:lol:TonE Danza!!!!

[johnielee333]

Sorry if you misunderstand my posts, but I don't see her as totally innocent in every way. But unlike some, I don't see her as a complete monster either. I have this trait of being able to see both the good as well as the bad in most people. There are few, very few, in this world of ours who are 100% good or 100% bad.

i agree with you.

[day2day]

Well, it seems Mark Nejame's PR strategy is faring less well than he expected. :rolleyes:

MMhmm. Even the best attorney won't help these people. jmo

[rosejustrose]

Imo, they were just trying to find her missing child, and they were beginning to see how arduous a task that was going to be. I don't think they did anything inappropriate. I don't know FLA law. imo


IMO, LE knew it would be an arduous task the minute they found out that mom, Casey, waited 31 days before reporting her child missing. IIRC, Casey was mirandized prior to being interviewed in her home. The second was a follow on and IIRC LE let her know the door was unlocked. In other words, you can get up and leave at any time. I don't know FL law either and I was thinking along the lines that LE released those interview tapes to get them out there just in case they are ruled inadmissable. Too late then, IMO.

[st777jo]

I don't for one second believe this mother should get any pass. She was a total redneck, brought her child along, acting like a bad azz, and her child got hurt during this. If she wants to protest, then fine, but leave the kids at home with a responsible adult.

The protesters are ridiculous. What are they accomplishing? Nothing!

Everyone is frustrated with this case, but this is definitely NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP.


How do we know if that family was not coming back from, say a barbecue, and just decided to stop by and see what was happening. And calling the families names are not cool. Especially when we know nothing about them. Maybe later we will hear what they have to say. Cindy knew the camera's are out there, and I believe she knew the people were also. IMO

[marshmallow]

I don't for one second believe this mother should get any pass. She was a total redneck, brought her child along, acting like a bad azz, and her child got hurt during this. If she wants to protest, then fine, but leave the kids at home with a responsible adult.

The protesters are ridiculous. What are they accomplishing? Nothing!

Everyone is frustrated with this case, but this is definitely NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP.




I think there's plenty o' blame to go around. Both the protester lady and Cindy were wrong. What were either of them thinking???

[Joan Weiss]

I don't for one second believe this mother should get any pass. She was a total redneck, brought her child along, acting like a bad azz, and her child got hurt during this. If she wants to protest, then fine, but leave the kids at home with a responsible adult.

The protesters are ridiculous. What are they accomplishing? Nothing!

Everyone is frustrated with this case, but this is definitely NOT DOING ANYTHING TO HELP."Redneck?" Care to explain that?

[spiritwolf46]

I am going to head out for a while today. Have a GREAT day and will be checking in !

Let's pray that Caylee will be found today! :rose:

[day2day]

I found this parody of Casey's call to Mom.

http://vocalo.org/explore/content/31866

:lol:TonE Danza!!!!

:eek: Imsoooooooooooooooooooooo tired.
First hes gonna take me for a drink cause i deserve it.

[rosejustrose]

I found this parody of Casey's call to Mom.

http://vocalo.org/explore/content/31866

:lol:TonE Danza!!!!

ROFLMAO:lol:

[Joan Weiss]

So you think that the mother slammed the door on her child on purpose??? WHERE do you get that?

It was an accident. Should the child have been there? NO, but to say that this was endagering a minor ON PURPOSE....well....I will not get banned over it.

:rose: FOR CAYLEEITA, and I think Cindy was responsible. Didn't she see the child there, or was she blinded by her anger? jmo