Caylee Anthony 09-14-08 A.M thread

[rosejustrose]

The extended video showed more. I believe in protecting our children and those mothers werent protecting theres at all.

You're a class act, Flmom:rose::rose:

[Ladyhawk]

The protesters indicate the community's feelings anout the Anthony family. The community is the jury pool.

IIRC several of the demonstrators came from areas outside of the Orlando area. I do not know what the adult population of Orange County is but I would not presume to insult everyone of them by stating that the demonstrators represent their feelings. IMO there are probably thousands of people who would be quite capable of viewing the evidence as presented eventhough they have heard and seen everything on the news. I could be wrong though...

[day2day]

I tell ya...that video is heartbreaking. I think they are both wrong. The woman should have NEVER brought her child there. It is not his fight. Cindy could have went inside and not kept the fight going. I hope that the little feller is alright...
They both should be ashamed of the language they use.

And i never knew that Cindy was Caylee's babysitter while Casey partied. I always thought it was the nanny..


jmo

[kitty1182]

as would I. Especially if I'd had death threats. But that's me and I'm a bit of a scardy cat I'm afraid.

While they are outside late at night, what are they gonna do if they come back in and Casey has fled? LOL

[OneUp]

You're right, the protesters are making the case for a change of venue motion.They certainly aren't HURTING that case! IMO, she would have gotten a change of venue anyway. My FIL lives in Lakeland and tells me the entire community is LIVID and rumors are running wild, have been since day one.
Something this high profile generally is granted a COVenue if requested is it not?
JMO...No lawyers in this home.

[rosejustrose]

The protesters indicate the community's feelings anout the Anthony family. The community is the jury pool.

I think we're saying the same thing. There is no way they are going to find an untainted jury pool in the greater Orlando area. I doubt they can find one in Florida. :shrug:

[AnnInOhio]

I'd be scared I'd go out to confront one and they'd shoot me.

All the more reason to send Casey out to deal with them. Maybe if they "wing her" she'll talk!

[frances1]

Trashy attracts trashy. Predictable and wholly inconsequential. Only difference here is that no one standing around outside the Anthony house is responsible for the disappearance of Caylee.

This isn't about the protesters. At all.



I wish we weren't talking about protestors at all.

I'm a child of the 60s, so I understand their "right" to be there, but the behavior of some of them makes me extremely uncomfortable. Personally, if there is to be a protest at all, I've always thought silent protest is most effective. Just stand there, don't look at the camera, and don't demean yourselves by shouting and screaming epithets.

[ccat]

All of this reminds me of what I once heard a pediatrician say, "It's OK if you don't discipline your child. Society WILL DO IT FOR YOU, AND IT MIGHT NOT BE NICE."

In this case, the protesters represent society. It's like white blood cells attacking a virus. As the pediatrician said, IT MIGHT NOT BE NICE.

[AJandTam]

Oh no, i've been out a few days again. Was there another scene outside the Anthony home? TIA.

[rosejustrose]

I just want lil Caylee found because this baby is on mind night and day.

ITA. She's on the minds of thousands night and day. Just look at all the different forums and blogs. That little girl has a whole world of people praying for her. Poor little angel :rose:

[farrahrani]

I refuse to pass judgment on the Anthony's child rearing, based on tabloid fodder. Lee turned out alright as far as I can see. Its really great that each of this forums posters have perfect children. Not every good parent is so lucky. I highly doubt that Cindy or George did anything to cause one of their children to allegedly murder her child.

jmho

ITA
A part of me still suspects that Cindy's methods of dealing with Casey may have provoked her into a defensive stance that would make her feel compelled to lie at the drop of a hat (that theory is best saved for a different time)--however that doesn't mean it would have turned her into a murderer.
There is something simply fundamentally wrong with Casey. She is a sociopath, nothing more than that. All the love in the world would not have changed her psychological makeup. It may have made her more honest, BUT would not have made her into a truly loving, sympathetic, emphatic person. Sociopaths have no conscience. While they may know the legals of right and wrong, and society's standards or morality, they don't feel it on a deeper personal level. That is why sociopaths are not covered by insanity defense, because they KNOW reality from fantasy, KNOW the legal standpoint on crime, but CHOOSE to commit crimes.

[AnnInOhio]

Oh my:eek:


I was kidding! Kind of...

[EGirl]

Most definately. If I could learn to talk like that I probably wouldn't have to keep coming up with new nics.
:read:


definitely

[day2day]

You will help this case a hundred fold if you both take a lie detector test. Ask Mark Klaas, for goodness sakes. If you did LE would stop bothering you and it's the only way to get cleared of what people are thinking (including LE).

I agree. But i don't see it happening. Afterall Cindy has three people looking for Caylee...she doesn't see the need to hit the pavement.

:(

[AJandTam]

Yes and a small boy was hurt..:seeya:

Thank you for answering Flmom. Hope the little boy is ok.

Little children should not be in this situation.

[WillowInFlight]

You will help this case a hundred fold if you both take a lie detector test. Ask Mark Klaas, for goodness sakes. If you did LE would stop bothering you and it's the only way to get cleared of what people are thinking (including LE).
So you have a network into what LE is thinking?. Why not have Casey take a LD! While I blame G&C for a lot they IMO had nothing to do with the death of Caylee.

[girlspell]

Casey will not be charged with murder. November is coming up. She has to start her tiral for child neglect. LE does not have enough evidence to bring to a grand jury of murder, now or most probably not by November. She will be tried for child neglect. Thus by conviction on that charge, insuring she will never ever be tried for murder, because of Florida screwy laws..

[Pag Boi]

Since when did CW start allowing posters such as yourself to give psychic predictions or a psychic analysis of other posters and their thoughts and actions or inactions? :read: I believe she stated the next person to talk about a poster personally and going off topic was going to be banned or lose posting privilges?? :read:

Please get back on topic and stop injecting your personal opinion of posters into your posts. Which should be about the case and the key players involved in it. Mainly Caylee who has yet to be found.

Where's Caylee? is the big question everyone is waiting for Casey Anthony to answer.

I didn't know CW had back up dancers. :barf:


If we are just waiting for Casey to answer, then no one will ever post here. jmo

[Katprint]

It sickens me to see people taking their children along on their 'protests'. <respectfully snipped>
I totally agree! I feel bad for little kids when I see their parents dragging them along on pro-choice/pro-life protests, civil rights marches, political candidate rallies, sitting at the freeway exit panhandling, whatever. Why bring that extra unnecessary stress into their child's life? Why not let the child spend a fun time with their grandparents or aunts/uncles or best friend's family while their parents do whatever they need to do? There will be plenty of stress for the child to deal with when they get older.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[WillowInFlight]

definitely

O/T glad to see you are safe. :)

[day2day]

I lost my respect for the Anthonys after what the did to Tim and his crew. Caylee is all I care about now. Shes the ONLY innocent in the bunch.

Yes you are right. Caylee somehow gets lost in this mess. And it is heartbreaking.

[AlohaRainbow]

"Before, definitely before." IIRC.
thanks! :seeya:

[rosejustrose]

You mean the murder that you're assuming took place, but also the murder she has not been charged with, right?


You can ignore the science, I choose not to.

[AJandTam]

He was screaming BABY KILLER at Cindy then the next thing his arm is closed in the car door and hes on the ground. Ugly scene for sure.

That sounds awful. Poor little boy.

[mattncats]

I think we're saying the same thing. There is no way they are going to find an untainted jury pool in the greater Orlando area. I doubt they can find one in Florida. :shrug:

"Absolutely" (one of Casey's favorite words) Gee. hope they come to Tampa, that's one jury duty I wouldn't try to get out of. But, have I already formed an opinion? You're right nowhere in Florida will the find a jury, unless they live under a rock with no tv, or computer, or newspaper.

[rosejustrose]

All of this reminds me of what I once heard a pediatrician say, "It's OK if you don't discipline your child. Society WILL DO IT FOR YOU, AND IT MIGHT NOT BE NICE."

In this case, the protesters represent society. It's like white blood cells attacking a virus. As the pediatrician said, IT MIGHT NOT BE NICE.


Great analogy!

[WillowInFlight]

Science hasn't given testimony yet.

Really? .....

[Rebel Rouzer]

You mean the murder that you're assuming took place, but also the murder she has not been charged with, right?


Sometimes reasonable dedcution based on facts and evidence presented to us allows us the opertunity and right to assume certain things.

Example. If a person walks into a 7-11 with no money and comes out of that 7-11 with cash consistng of teh same amount the cash register had before that person entered the 7-11. It's reasonable to assume the person stole the money or the cashier was feeling generous that day and just gave them the money out of the kindness of their heart. Reasonable duduction would say the facts prove the person stole the money and the cahier didn't gift the money to them.

Casey Anthony had a child one day and failed to report her missing for weeks and when she was finally reported missing. Casey Anthony chose to lie to investigators. Casey Anthony abandon her vehicle contacting nobody about the car and it's location. Casey Anthony was the last known person to see Caylee. Casey Anthony was the last person known to drive the car. Caylee Anthony's DNA and hair were found in the trunk of said car. Decomposition of a human believed to be Caylee Anthony was found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car. Casey Anthony has still refused to give truthful and accurate information concerning the wherabouts of Caylee Anthony.;

Reasonable dedcution allows us the public to come to a reasonable conclusion or in your words assumption that Casey Anthony was responsible for the death of her child Caylee Anthony. The constant lies and being uncooperative in finding Caylee Anthony and her location or last known whereabouts. Lead us to the reasonable conclusion that Casey Anthony MURDERED her child and that there was no accident.

until there is a trial and a jury finds Casey Anthony guilty or not guilty of the charges that are reasonably going to be brought. The public has a right to reasonably assume or conclude that Casey Anthony is teh responsible party fo her childs disappearence and most likely her death. Just as you assume she is alive with nothing to support that assumption.

we all assume what we want to given the facts and evidence presented before us. We are all allowed our opinions and the freedom to voice those opinions. we are not in a court of law. we are on a message board. FYI

[OneUp]

my heart breaks for all the people who loved that little girl but as a parent myself I know that unconditional love (to me) means loving them even when they screw up not excusing them for it. My children know that I am by their side, thick or thin, good and bad but I won't stand in front of them to deflect them from the repercussions of their actions. Theyk now that should they break laws, my love will still be there whether they're home or in jail taking their punishment.What an excellent parent yo must be! i always knew you were a "softy" though...I bet your kids don't have to face much punishment. Raising your children well does tend to provide a degree of insurance against their encountering serious trouble. It's certainly not foolproof, but your type of parenting sounds like a good way to start!
I haven't seen much discussion about the articles in the scandal sheets on here. maybe that is a directly relevant subject to fuss over?
I personally place everything I read in one of those rags as "interesting if true" but I've seen alot of discussion elsewhere. Was that subject placed off limits and I failed to notice it?
JMO that there are other topics than protesters to discuss.

[EGirl]

Casey will not be charged with murder. November is coming up. She has to start her tiral for child neglect. LE does not have enough evidence to bring to a grand jury of murder, now or most probably not by November. She will be tried for child neglect. Thus by conviction on that charge, insuring she will never ever be tried for murder, because of Florida screwy laws..



You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Surely you aren't suggesting double jeopardy.

[day2day]

Dead is dead...there was a dead body in the trunk.

I agree. I trust LE...i have to!

[Shellberry]

These events, each of them, occurring outside of the Anthony home certainly sheds some light about what goes on inside in the home. All of it might have something to do with Casey's "compelling reasons" as suggested by Baez.
I dont know about that.
I think when people reach a breaking point-they do just that.
it's gotta be stressful in there & strangers in the street watching you night and day, can put you over the edge, imo.
so many days they didnt leave the house, maybe hoping people would go away if they didnt come out :shrug:
they must be going stir crazy in there.

Matha.. I think the better question is: What were complete strangers doing out in her yard late at night? Cindy certainly has more of a right and reason to be there than the strangers do.
definately, no matter what, you should have to worry about going out your front door into your own yard.
she was out there after 11pm for heavens sake.
she thought the coast was clear, and someone driving by sees her....and everything starts.





hi shel...sorry to be so late in responding....unexpected company tore me away from my computer...lol...ws....thread is titled oviedo house...
thank you-I know the board that you mean.

I refuse to pass judgment on the Anthony's child rearing, based on tabloid fodder. Lee turned out alright as far as I can see. Its really great that each of this forums posters have perfect children. Not every good parent is so lucky. I highly doubt that Cindy or George did anything to cause one of their children to allegedly murder her child.

jmho
yep, no matter how good a child is raised, something can still happen that they have no control over, to make their child 'turn'

I didn't want to snip this. You know what Shellberry, I may not see some things exactly as you do, but I think you are a great example of a fair minded person. Thank you.
:rose:
aww-well, thanks
I try to be.
my thoughts differ a lot anymore, as each new thing is released.
I go back and forth back and forth about this whole case.
:(

I didnt see the protesters in their yard..Yes I would have stayed inside had I been Cindy and George. why should you have to stay inside of your own house though?


My understanding is that the woman who had the confrontation with Cindy was NOT a protester. She was just one of the many curious driving by. Stand to be corrected.
that is what I thought, said it earlier. I think she just happened to see cindy out when cindy thought it would be 'safe' to go out and no one would be around.





imo/jmo/etc

[farrahrani]

Oh no, i've been out a few days again. Was there another scene outside the Anthony home? TIA.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

Yes but looking at the video link on the right of the article, it was the child's families' fault. Taking small children out after dark, teaching them to yell baby killer and then slamming the door on their arm while being pulled away from a possible fight in the making is disgraceful.

[Unperson1984]

I think we're saying the same thing. There is no way they are going to find an untainted jury pool in the greater Orlando area. I doubt they can find one in Florida. :shrug:

I agree, this case has spun out of control.

[LouBLou]

Hi Flmom and thanks for the welcome, I was a little nervous about posting here to be honest!
I believe people have the right to protest and can understand why feelings are running so high. Having said that, I just think it's so wrong to involve children in this. This case is about the terrible treatment of a child, surely that would make others want to protect their kids and hold them close not expose them to a volatile and potentially dangerous situation.

[rosejustrose]

Thank you for answering Flmom. Hope the little boy is ok.

Little children should not be in this situation.

ITA. But it's the love for a little child and concern about her well being that caused this situation. How ironic. JMHO.

For Caylee:rose:

[kitty1182]

I trust that LE knows very well what they are doing.
When the time is right and they have there ducks in row she will go down . jmo

:beer::beer:

[day2day]

Sometimes reasonable dedcution based on facts and evidence presented to us allows us the opertunity and right to assume certain things.

Example. If a person walks into a 7-11 with no money and comes out of that 7-11 with cash consistng of teh same amount the cash register had before that person entered the 7-11. It's reasonable to assume the person stole the money or the cashier was feeling generous that day and just gave them the money out of the kindness of their heart. Reasonable duduction would say the facts prove the person stole the money and the cahier didn't gift the money to them.

Casey Anthony had a child one day and failed to report her missing for weeks and when she was finally reported missing. Casey Anthony chose to lie to investigators. Casey Anthony abandon her vehicle contacting nobody about the car and it's location. Casey Anthony was the last known person to see Caylee. Casey Anthony was the last person known to drive the car. Caylee Anthony's DNA and hair were found in the trunk of said car. Decomposition of a human believed to be Caylee Anthony was found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car. Casey Anthony has still refused to give truthful and accurate information concerning the wherabouts of Caylee Anthony.;

Reasonable dedcution allows us the public to come to a reasonable conclusion or in your words assumption that Casey Anthony was responsible for the death of her child Caylee Anthony. The constant lies and being uncooperative in finding Caylee Anthony and her location or last known whereabouts. Lead us to the reasonable conclusion that Casey Anthony MURDERED her child and that there was no accident.

until there is a trial and a jury finds Casey Anthony guilty or not guilty of the charges that are reasonably going to be brought. The public has a right to reasonably assume or conclude that Casey Anthony is teh responsible party fo her childs disappearence and most likely her death. Just as you assume she is alive with nothing to support that assumption.

we all assume what we want to given the facts and evidence presented before us. We are all allowed our opinions and the freedom to voice those opinions. we are not in a court of law. we are on a message board. FYI


Great post, Reb!! And always remember the fisherman...hammer

[OneUp]

OK Im a big person and will admit when I am wrong..and I am wrong.

After watching the extended video of the clash with Cindy and protester..Cindyu didnt have the hammer at the car and the protester was clearly in the wrong..that baby was screaming while the screaming was going on and the little boy was allowed to speak to Cindy like trash...OMG....and yes the mother saw the child on the ground screaming and sent the boy to check him. SICK.

I was totally wrong on this one.It's no biggie to me FLmom, but TY for stepping up to clarify your mistake. I found it all awful on behalf of every adult present there to act up infront of kids and leave a child screaming on the ground before ever seeing one bit of the video. There's no excuse to have children around yelling and violence. Be it your own or soomeone elses.
At least there is no excuse IMO.

[rosejustrose]

Casey will not be charged with murder. November is coming up. She has to start her tiral for child neglect. LE does not have enough evidence to bring to a grand jury of murder, now or most probably not by November. She will be tried for child neglect. Thus by conviction on that charge, insuring she will never ever be tried for murder, because of Florida screwy laws..

Can you explain the screwy law? Why could she not be charged for murder at a later date? It's a separate and distinct charge. I wouldn't think double jeopardy would apply. TIA

[day2day]

I trust that LE knows very well what they are doing.
When the time is right and they have there ducks in row she will go down . jmo

I think they are giving her just enough rope to hang herself. I believe they know what she says and types 24/7. I think they will snatch her up when she least expects it. It could be any minute now...

Casey-the clock is ticking. jmo

[bluwaters]

Did ya'all hear Cindy ask the lady about Yuri Melich paying her to be there??
That was WAY out of line... :flamemad:

I think she said Cathy Melich(sp) of channel 9 news. She was the one who jumped in front of Baez and Casey at the first jail release, asking Casey if she killed Caylee. Cathy M was also the local reported on the 20/20 show. Cathy M has been on this case from the beginning and Cindy despises her. If I were Cindy, I would despise her too. Since I'm not Cindy, I like Cathy M's reports and she has been very accurate, imo.

It was interesting to me to hear Cindy say that channel 9 is paying protesters, and then George was reportedly saying on a show this AM that protesters were being paid.

One of our own posters has been using the puzzling term 'pretend protesters' for the last few days. I didn't understand what that referred to. I wonder who came up with this story? As if this case needed paid agitators!

jmho

[Acorn]

Thank you for answering Flmom. Hope the little boy is ok.

Little children should not be in this situation.

Yes, little children should not be around the Anthonys.

[Rebel Rouzer]

I lost my respect for the Anthonys after what the did to Tim and his crew. Caylee is all I care about now. Shes the ONLY innocent in the bunch.

Agree and that is what should matter. IMO

[rosejustrose]

I totally agree! I feel bad for little kids when I see their parents dragging them along on pro-choice/pro-life protests, civil rights marches, political candidate rallies, sitting at the freeway exit panhandling, whatever. Why bring that extra unnecessary stress into their child's life? Why not let the child spend a fun time with their grandparents or aunts/uncles or best friend's family while their parents do whatever they need to do? There will be plenty of stress for the child to deal with when they get older.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Too bad Casey didn't think of that where Caylee was concerned. JMO.

[Carol25]

It is so amazing that everyone is so focused on the arguing on the adults that no one saw that the child was hurt , rolling on the ground and crying. Even the woman who unconsciously picked up his hand, letting it go was so emersed in the arguing didn't take a second look at the boy.

[EGirl]

O/T glad to see you are safe. :)


:seeya: Finally got the evacuees on the road this morning. I'm not getting out of my pajamas today :D

[msjoni]

I wish we weren't talking about protestors at all.

I'm a child of the 60s, so I understand their "right" to be there, but the behavior of some of them makes me extremely uncomfortable. Personally, if there is to be a protest at all, I've always thought silent protest is most effective. Just stand there, don't look at the camera, and don't demean yourselves by shouting and screaming epithets.

The lady with the large sign and Saint Bernard did just that, she was quiet and non-disruptive, she protested peacefully, yet Lee had a fit. The people last night were no better than the Anthony's...IMO

[Pag Boi]

I cant sit on a jury but I sure wish i could this one.

Why can't you sit on a jury? :shrug:

[martha]

Casey will not be charged with murder. November is coming up. She has to start her tiral for child neglect. LE does not have enough evidence to bring to a grand jury of murder, now or most probably not by November. She will be tried for child neglect. Thus by conviction on that charge, insuring she will never ever be tried for murder, because of Florida screwy laws..
Is this really true. No matter what they find or who desides to talk and tell something that will prove casey did something to caylee she will not be charged. I just don;t understand that. I guess casey will get away with this and nothing will ever be done. I don;t see them ever finding caylee little small body. I do know God will punish all that is envolved in this baby what ever has happened to her. If she is still alive then may God bring her home. The family is not going to be looking for her. God bless caylee. jmho:rose:

[rosejustrose]

Science hasn't given testimony yet.

Oh, but it will, IMO.

[nutterbutter]

Is this really true. No matter what they find or who desides to talk and tell something that will prove casey did something to caylee she will not be charged. I just don;t understand that. I guess casey will get away with this and nothing will ever be done. I don;t see them ever finding caylee little small body. I do know God will punish all that is envolved in this baby what ever has happened to her. If she is still alive then may God bring her home. The family is not going to be looking for her. God bless caylee. jmho:rose:
new thread open.please come here




http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=340215

[day2day]

whos on the cam now looks to be 3 men maybe:shrug: almost at the door

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

George and the bodyguards?

[Kathlb]

Thank you for taking the time to find those articles for me Kathy! I appreciate it! However, I don't think they are the ones Advers was referring to. I've seen those, and was familiar with them ( re-read them to be certain I didn't miss something or misinterpret). No where does Lee mention that an accident was likley to happen.

Confrontation Erupts Between Lee Anthony, Protestors
http://www.wesh.com/news/17451811/detail.html

"Lee Anthony said that was what he had been waiting for.

"Yes, for someone to walk into the driveway," he said."

That is the complete quote from Lee in both articles. I see no mention of an accident, it could even be interpreted to mean he was laying in wait for a chance to run someone over purposely...or perhaps it was taken totally out of context and he meant he was waiting for the Easter Bunny to show up? LOL
I still haven't seen his quote referring to a "fear" of accidents happening. But I'd like to.
JMO, but I doubt there IS a quote of Lee saying he is concerned about anyone outside of the Anthony family.
I am still requesting that link from the OP. Please?


You're welcome OneUp. These are the only quotes by Lee that I know of. I have never heard of any where he says he has a "fear" of accidents happening or that he is concerned about anyone outside of the Anthony family. I think that was just someone's "take" on these quotes. Reading something more into them. In my mind if he were really concerned and "worrying" about that happening, he wouldn't have driven into the driveway so quickly without slowing down, honking and stopping until they were all well back. JMHO

[AlohaRainbow]

*snip*
I wonder when the movie is made (you KNOW it will be) if they will show thousands of people in their homes at their computers? :D
*snip*
i hope they pick me to play me @ my computer in the movie!! :cool:

seriously, what i hope more is that caylee is found soon :rose:

[farrahrani]

I think she said Cathy Melich(sp) of channel 9 news. She was the one who jumped in front of Baez and Casey at the first jail release, asking Casey if she killed Caylee. Cathy M was also the local reported on the 20/20 show. Cathy M has been on this case from the beginning and Cindy despises her. If I were Cindy, I would despise her too. Since I'm not Cindy, I like Cathy M's reports and she has been very accurate, imo.

It was interesting to me to hear Cindy say that channel 9 is paying protesters, and then George was reportedly saying on a show this AM that protesters were being paid.

One of our own posters has been using the puzzling term 'pretend protesters' for the last few days. I didn't understand what that referred to. I wonder who came up with this story? As if this case needed paid agitators!

jmho

well...remember Cindy also had the theory in the beginning of the TES search that turnout was low because nobody believed Casey killed Caylee and that everyone believed the baby was still alive. Must have been quite a blow to her to see the record turnout the following week, lol.

So now her new theory is that people need to be paid to stand in front of their house and hurl nasty epithets at them. :rolleyes: As if the idea of an accused child murderer being out on bail and being protected by the deceased childs family isn't enough.

Apparently she (Cindy) needs these little delusions to get her through the day.

[Carol25]

This is from page 2 of the libnks page, post #52:

7/17/2008 A ORDER - COURT DENIES BAIL BECAUSE NO CONDITION OF RELEASE CAN REASONABLY PROTECT THE COMMUNITY,

Perhaps they should visit this condition again....JMO

[bluwaters]

I think we're saying the same thing. There is no way they are going to find an untainted jury pool in the greater Orlando area. I doubt they can find one in Florida. :shrug:
I think that they can find one in Tallahassee. We have a couple of high profile cases here that are asking for a change of venue. Perhaps there can be a trade?

[Pag Boi]

Sometimes reasonable dedcution based on facts and evidence presented to us allows us the opertunity and right to assume certain things.

Example. If a person walks into a 7-11 with no money and comes out of that 7-11 with cash consistng of teh same amount the cash register had before that person entered the 7-11. It's reasonable to assume the person stole the money or the cashier was feeling generous that day and just gave them the money out of the kindness of their heart. Reasonable duduction would say the facts prove the person stole the money and the cahier didn't gift the money to them.




FYI - This is not even close to being apples and organes IMO

You still have to prove they had no money going in, how much money was in the register before the person went in... OMG.. Just watch "My Cousin Vinnie." Based on that tale of 2 'utes' going in a store, you are saying Casey could be inno

I couldn't even finish typing the word.

[farrahrani]

Good, maybe his arm wasnt broke. I thought maybe it was a put on by the protesters anyways as I didnt seee anyone slam the door but did hear the moma protester yell and tell Cindy she was paying the bill.

Yeah I had to view the video a few times, but it was the child's own family who slammed the door on his arm. It was their own fault for trying to start a fight in the middle of the street, nobody else had contact with the vehicle. And it didn't look like the child was hurt that badly, when he was lifted his arm seemed ok, not to be broken or anything, and he was still yelling trash as they pulled away.

[OneUp]

All of this reminds me of what I once heard a pediatrician say, "It's OK if you don't discipline your child. Society WILL DO IT FOR YOU, AND IT MIGHT NOT BE NICE."

In this case, the protesters represent society. It's like white blood cells attacking a virus. As the pediatrician said, IT MIGHT NOT BE NICE.That's an interesting way of putting it for certain!
I always told my kids "I discipline you so you will grow up to be someone other people will appreciate!"
Same intent though...I always felt if I didn't teach mine right from wrong and that there are consequences for each action, that society would. I definitely would rather see my child in tears or put them on grounding than visit them in prison or in a hospital!
JMO, like always!

[rosejustrose]

whos on the cam now looks to be 3 men maybe:shrug: almost at the door

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

They look like they may be bodyguards, IMO.

[kitty1182]

whos on the cam now looks to be 3 men maybe:shrug: almost at the door

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam.html

One sure is a tall guy..

[Kathlb]

This is from page 2 of the libnks page, post #52:

7/17/2008 A ORDER - COURT DENIES BAIL BECAUSE NO CONDITION OF RELEASE CAN REASONABLY PROTECT THE COMMUNITY,

Perhaps they should visit this condition again....JMO


Hi Carol,
I asked about this a few days ago and no one ever answered me. I think the judge can do that.MOO

[Joan Weiss]

I have never read or heard anything that said Lee was known to have a temper. Had he ever been in trouble due to his temper, before the mob started trespassing on his parents property? Did he have any trouble as he was growing up, in school, at work, at all. I haven't heard that he did.Well, if YOU haven't heard it, it can't possibly be true. I saw it, and I believe it.

Since we are talking about what we "heard," how about that George? I "heard" that his ex-wife said he's a compulsive liar with with a terrible temper. I also "heard" that he threw his FIL through a plate glass window.

Geeze, now I'm "hearing" and seeing :eek: that his son has a terrible temper and that his daughter is a compulsive liar.

Cindy is also diplaying all of those traits, imo.

What to believe? :shrug:

I must close my own eyes and ears. Sigh....

[rosejustrose]

Good, maybe his arm wasnt broke. I thought maybe it was a put on by the protesters anyways as I didnt seee anyone slam the door but did hear the moma protester yell and tell Cindy she was paying the bill.


ITA. I was a little afraid to post that I thought maybe the little boy was acting. IMO that van load of foul mouths weren't part of the protesters group. They were just driving by and took advantage of the opportunity to start some c**p. But good ole Cindy went right with it. IMO.

[Pag Boi]

Hi Carol,
I asked about this a few days ago and no one ever answered me. I think the judge can do that.MOO

This was prior to her bond hearing. The hearing granted bond with conditions. JMO

[Carol25]

Hi Carol,
I asked about this a few days ago and no one ever answered me. I think the judge can do that.MOO
I think after the fights, the gun in George's car, the charges against George, it's been just too, too much! Something could happen much too easily! Lee is getting into altercations, Cindy, too.

[Shellberry]

It is so amazing that everyone is so focused on the arguing on the adults that no one saw that the child was hurt , rolling on the ground and crying. Even the woman who unconsciously picked up his hand, letting it go was so emersed in the arguing didn't take a second look at the boy.
imo, that shows what kind of mother she may be.
If I were in screaming match with someone and my daughter was hurt-you bet your duppa I'd stop and scoop her up to make sure she was ok.
even being in a screaming match or involved in something not at all like this, my first instinct would be 'omg- check her out.= make sure she is ok' then continue on.


The lady with the large sign and Saint Bernard did just that, she was quiet and non-disruptive, she protested peacefully, yet Lee had a fit. The people last night were no better than the Anthony's...IMO
she was peaceful-but imo if you go to protest, you show your sign to the person who you are protesting againt-not to the street or to the webcam.
everyone who lives there knows what is going on.
why face the street or the webcam or the news stations trucks parked all along the block?
I didnt see one person at all with a sign actually facing the anthonys house so they could see it.
She said she was going to take him to the hospital and that the Anthonys would be paying the bill. :shrug:
omg-did she really say that?
I missed that link.

imo/jmo/etc

[Carol25]

This was prior to her bond hearing. The hearing granted bond with conditions. JMO
Since we know that something like this exists, don't you think that it should be adressed now? Even the Anthony's feels there's danger lurking if they have hired guards...

[AJandTam]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/14/cindy_anthony_clashes_with_protesters.html

Yes but looking at the video link on the right of the article, it was the child's families' fault. Taking small children out after dark, teaching them to yell baby killer and then slamming the door on their arm while being pulled away from a possible fight in the making is disgraceful.
Omg, Thank you for the link. That was just awful.

[rosejustrose]

Are we supposed to move over to the new thread?

[Joan Weiss]

This is from page 2 of the libnks page, post #52:

7/17/2008 A ORDER - COURT DENIES BAIL BECAUSE NO CONDITION OF RELEASE CAN REASONABLY PROTECT THE COMMUNITY,

Perhaps they should visit this condition again....JMOThat's a great find, Carol. :hat:

I have been feeling for several weeks that everyone would be safer if Casey were back in jail. imo

[Shellberry]

I think after the fights, the gun in George's car, the charges against George, it's been just too, too much! Something could happen much too easily! Lee is getting into altercations, Cindy, too.

In all honesty, I think a situation like this might turn you into someone you truly arent.

I havent seen any 'bad' stuff about any of them other than traffic tickets.
and possible divorce.

this whole thing is turning their world upside down- I worry more about a crazy protester who might be out with a gun hiding in their pocket hoping to catch a glimpse of one of them


imo/jmo

[Pag Boi]

You seem to deal with it well. Don't the courts have provisions to assist with disabled people?

I thought the courts had provisions as well

FLMom, ITA with Adverse. Whatever your disability, you certainly aren't at a disadvantage JMO. Blessings and good wishes for you :rose: